Hodgetwins Podcast - Does The Future Look Bright? | Twins Pod - Episode 35 - Matt Kim
Episode Date: October 18, 2024Matt Kim is the host of the Matt Kim Podcast and he's been blowing up! Matt is a really smart dude and we're talking about the future of America, AI, "Stop Asian Hate" and all kinds of other offensive... s***! Conservative Blacks and Asians unite! Get your Twins merch and have a chance to win a 69 Camaro and 10K in cash - https://officialhodgetwins.com/ Get Optimal Human, your all in one daily nutritional supplement - https://optimalhuman.com/ Bet on anything at https://www.mybookie.ag/ and use code "TWINS" to win Double on your first deposit! American-made, top of the line knives - https://dmoknives.com/ Want to be a guest on the Twins Pod? Contact us at bookings@twinspod.com Download Free Twins Pod Content - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_iNb2RYwHUisypEjkrbZ3nFoBK8k60CO Follow Twins Pod Everywhere - X - https://twitter.com/TheTwinsPod Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thetwinspod/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/twinspod TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@twinspod YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdg Rumble - https://rumble.com/c/TwinsPod Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/79BWPxHPWnijyl4lf8vWVu?si=03960b3a8b6b4f74 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/twins-pod/id1731232810 02:25 - Cops In South Korea 05:39 - Public Schools 06:53 - Tenet Media 09:42 - We Are All In A Database 12:34 - Illegal Immigration Vs Legal Immigration 15:48 - Mexico 18:08 - The Presidential Election 21:24 - What Red Pilled Matt? 23:21 - Abortion 26:14 - Republican Party Dead 28:06 - Joe Biden Is MAGA Now? 30:36 - RFK & Vivek 39:56 - How To Not Get Compromised 43:37 - Israel 45:42 - Black Culture 49:17 - Stop Asian Hate 53:52 - Tyreek Hill 1:00:15 - Andrew Tate
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We got Matt Kim for the Matt Kim podcast.
How are you doing, brother?
Yeah, I would be here.
Have you always been conservative?
What red pill did you?
I remember my father when I was young.
I said, why are we Republican?
He says, because we don't like to pay a lot of taxes.
That's it fair.
That makes a lot of sense.
I could totally get behind that.
There was a campaign going on.
It was like Stop the Asian hate.
I didn't realize it was going on.
But it turns out it was a bunch of black people.
Everyone wants to talk about stop Asian hate because this was right after BLM.
So everyone wanted to be.
the identity positive.
And then they realized
that it was a bunch of black people
in Democratic cities
doing all the violence.
They're like, oh, just kidding.
Just kidding.
Nothing to stay here.
We're good.
Like I said,
your podcast's growing up.
You are interviewed entry.
Kate.
How did that go?
Yeah.
Because I went to Romania for it.
Yeah.
I was supposed to go out there too.
That's why.
I'm scared I'm going to get arrested.
When I went out there,
I'm in a restaurant
and like these random cops are walking by
and they look like cops.
They look like undercover cops.
Walking by and back and forth,
back and forth.
I'm looking at me and looking at me.
I'm like, all right.
This don't feel good.
I don't want to get in trouble with Romania.
You know, like this random Asian guy in the middle of Romania.
Right.
I stick out like a sore thumb.
Right, right, right.
What do you feel about what's going on in Israel?
How come I can criticize black people, Hispanic people, Asian people,
gay people, trans people, everyone.
Right.
But if I say something about Jewish people, then they're going to cancel me.
And I got all these letters from Jewish attorneys saying that they're going to sue them to defamation.
Really?
Are you bullshit?
I was like, this is proving the point, isn't it?
What did you say?
I just told you what I said.
That is crazy.
Got Matt Kim for the Matt Kim podcast.
How are you doing, brother?
Yeah.
I would be here.
Thank you for coming.
So where are you from originally?
Originally.
That's like such a weird question.
You know, like every time an Asian guy walks in, you got to ask him, like, where are you from?
What does I even mean?
Well, I wanted to know you back.
I don't know you.
You know what I mean?
We shout to Wikipedia. I couldn't find shit on you.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, bro.
Hell no.
I live in Atlanta.
was my family's from Korea.
And then you got a nephew,
North Korea, South Korea.
And then South Korea.
Okay. So you're from South Korea?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got family.
He used to live out there.
My older brothers in the Army.
He had a son.
He's got a son or a daughter.
Korean.
Yeah.
He married Korean.
Yeah, Korean.
What's Korea like, South Korea?
South Korea is interesting.
It's kind of like,
I'm going to say if you,
people think that they know Korea
because they watch a lot of Korean dramas these days.
K-pop is really popular.
But the reality is that it's like saying,
I know Korea because I know California because I know L.A.
It's not really like that, right?
Seoul is, it's like two square miles is the entire wealth of entire Korea.
80% of all the GDP comes from four companies.
And it's like a really globalist type of place,
which is kind of weird and scary.
So surveillance everywhere.
Everything's technology.
Everyone's on their phones.
Everything is kind of monitored.
I have like a social credit score?
Not really yet.
But I mean, I think we all have it.
Crime is low.
That's a good thing.
Crime is low.
Well, there's no guns.
You see what freedom does here in the freaking U.S.
There's no guns in Korea.
So cops don't have guns either, which is interesting.
They know that damn karate, right?
Hey, so what do you,
So do you think that's a positive thing when there's no guns in society or?
No.
Like you need to be able to protect yourself because no one respects cops because they have no power.
So if the cops show up, then people get drunk yelling at the cops,
cause a problem because no one respects cops because what are you going to do?
Like what are they going to slap you?
Right.
You're going to slap them back.
So they're going to run away.
What did they care for protection?
Like mace or stick?
You just got to figure it out.
Oh.
Yeah.
The legal system in Korea is interesting because say we're going to fight.
and the cops get involved.
I can offer to pay you money
and we can settle out of court
and the cops will drop the case.
Really?
Yeah, if we make an agreement,
so they say that they were going to prosecute you
for hitting me or whatever it is.
I can offer to do a settlement,
pay you out of pocket,
and then the entire thing goes away.
It's actually not the worst way to do it.
Yeah.
It actually sounds a great way to do things
because look at here,
Like you see all these people in jail, and a lot of people here in jail in prison for like minor shit.
Yeah.
We, it's like that's very bad.
And it sounds like in Korea you got a much better system other than, you know, the system you all have on weapons and guns and stuff.
Yeah, I mean, here in the United States, if we were getting a fight and the cops decide they want to prosecute and you get into the justice system, it doesn't matter that we figured it out.
It doesn't matter that we've decided, oh, we're good, we're okay.
Like, we don't want to prosecute anymore.
the cops and the justice
has taken over
and you actually have no
saying the matter.
Maybe we're neighbors
and I
you know,
we're going to fight
and we're going to argue in
and we punch each other
and all of a sudden
it doesn't matter
anymore that we figure it out.
Here in America wants to get
to the prosecutor,
he's thinking about whether he can convict
or not
and to build his,
you know,
his score up.
Yeah.
So that sounds like a positive
to me.
Yeah.
When comparing.
I mean,
I'm a big advocate
for a Second Amendment
but we haven't too many
people down in our schools. That's a huge. Well, yeah. I mean, they're not doing
thinking about it in the schools. It's like they almost, it's like they wanted to happen.
Right. Yeah, they can legislate laws. What do you think about the problem in schools with
the guns? I think if they want, like, you go through TSA. I mean, they protect you at the airport,
but they don't protect the kids in school. There's no system. And nobody's willing to do anything
about it. Because right now I'm homeschooling my daughter, and I'm thinking about because of what
happening in Texas.
Everybody's just sitting around not doing anything.
So I'm thinking about taking my son out of school and homeschooling.
Well, I think that's the best way to do it.
I mean, my daughter is two years old.
I don't have a huge desire to send them to government school.
Right, right.
Because they don't teach you anything.
They don't.
You can teach them whatever you want by yourself.
They only study for a few hours a day at best.
Right.
And all you're teaching them is to be compliant.
And you want your kids to be critical thinkers.
Yeah.
And that's what society is losing, especially.
when you go to school shootings,
it's not because the guns, I don't think.
I think it's that, you know,
kids are being raised by technology,
being raised by social media,
being raised by video games,
and then they're messing with their minds.
They don't have a sense of reality.
They don't know what's real,
what's wrong, what's right.
We lack a core sense of values
that we are supposed to share.
And I think that's the biggest problem of it.
Yeah.
So this story that broke,
I'm still like getting the details on
with tenant media.
That is crazy.
Crazy.
That is insane.
First of all,
it's almost unbelievable.
I'm like, come on.
When I first saw this,
because I have their CNN app,
I watched a bunch of different news sources.
They came up,
I was like,
oh, man, this is bogus.
Yeah.
I know those guys.
They wouldn't do that.
Yeah,
and then you're like, huh.
Then I started digging.
So I went to get your perspective on it.
If you had any inside knowledge on it.
I mean,
I don't have any inside knowledge.
I just read the indictment.
I think a lot of people have the indictment.
Okay.
the entire indictment.
Okay.
And I was like, dude, they're getting set up.
This is not right.
Right.
And you're like, oh, shit.
You know what I mean?
Like, they were talking to them a lot.
And maybe they were set up.
And maybe they didn't know.
But they were still taking the money.
That's the hardest part, right?
Yeah.
I have a lot of respect for those people.
I was like, come on, man.
You guys are smart and bright.
Yeah.
They're getting paid a lot of money.
Yeah.
How much money was it?
Like $400 grand a month for one episode a week.
That's a lot of damn money
400,000 dollars of money
Hey hit me up
Russia hit me up let me know
Ornergan a month
They must be racist
They didn't hit us up
No? You didn't get the call?
I didn't get the call
I didn't that some shit
Actually
Actually when I heard the story
I was like
Pissed us like they didn't cut
Take
That's a lot of money
Or under ground a month
One episode a week
Yeah and all they had to do
Was it release it
Yeah I think it's
What is it called
Farsa
Some doc made just have to file
Yeah
Just make it know
working with a foreign entity.
Right, right.
That's what's making it illegal because they didn't register.
I mean, think about how many people out there take foreign money to do their shows.
It's almost everybody at this point.
You either take money from Israel, you take money from China, you take money from everybody,
but all of a sudden this one's a big problem.
That's kind of...
Because of a conservative.
Exactly.
That's what I think, yeah.
And the biggest part is that how do they get all this information from the people?
That's what I found most concerning.
Because you go through an indictment, they're like,
where you found the information and we saw the communications through the
Google searches. We saw the information through their emails, their Discord private messages.
They didn't know they were being investigated. It sounds like a setup to me. They totally just
went into all their systems, got this information, and because of you have that section 702,
which means you're talking to a foreign entity or a foreign conversation, then now the government
can legally track your communications, and not only your communications, but the communications
of the people that you've been talking to. So if you've ever talking to any of those,
those guys, they have those communications.
Right. Oh, shit. Yeah.
I don't talk to them.
They have, on record,
everyone in conservative media,
they have all the communications. And I think that's why
people are really worried right now. Yeah.
Yeah. Because if Kamala wins,
I think they are going to go through
all the records. Oh. Like, oh, yeah,
that was, they were knowingly spreading
misinformation. They were knowingly spreading
disinformation. They met it in the election.
Yeah.
You know, if that money was for my Israel, it would be no problem.
Yeah.
No problem at all.
Maybe it would have been more.
I think so.
You'd have been a lot more.
Hell, man.
So are they looking at like jail time?
No, because they're not actually indicting any of the creators.
Oh, that's good.
They're only indicting the two Russians that are in Russia.
Meaning, and I think that's unintention.
Because if they don't indict Lauren Chen or Tenet Media or any of the other creators involved,
then they don't have to go through a discovery period.
And if you don't go through a discovery period,
then they don't have to show how they got information,
what they really found.
They can just put out this indictment, say,
hey, look, we have these connections now
and they can start digging around other places.
But they don't actually have to tell you how and what they're doing.
Okay, so they're just trying to paint a bad light on.
Correct.
Yeah, this smells like what they did to Russia.
Yeah.
This smells just like that.
Yeah.
And I bet you, man, I don't,
I ain't got nothing to back it,
but I think it's the same people behind it.
Yeah.
Because if Trump wants his election, this is going to be all over the news.
Yeah.
And they're going to say, look at what this person said three months ago.
Look at what this person said six months ago.
Right.
Hey, let's cancel them.
Let's take them off the internet.
They shouldn't be allowed.
They're dangerous, et cetera.
I think it's a really bad precedent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Damn.
Damn, man.
That is so crazy.
I heard this.
I was like, man, this is fake.
That's like, we brought, um, what's his name on the show?
I like you.
Al Jaze.
No, it's not fake.
Yeah.
He said he didn't take the money.
He's like, nah, it's coming from us.
You guys are crazy.
You guys are freaking idiots.
You take that money.
Because when you think about your own YouTube,
you know how much money you make per thousand views.
Yeah.
And they were doing these videos and you're going to get $400,000 a week for one episode.
That is like, that's not a good business model.
You go out of business quick.
Right.
That's not money well spent.
Hey, man.
So it's like they set them up.
Right.
Matt, are you familiar with the content that they were sharing?
Because I'm not too familiar with it.
It was just their regular videos.
They wanted that to be.
being on. I think they just wanted access
into the people. And they were
probably set up. You know, Honeypot,
400 grand, how do you say no to that?
And because of that, now they can look
into all the communications, they know what's going on in the
background. I think it was just like an easy way
to get in. And it sucks.
Right. But at the same time,
400 grand just shows up at your
doorstep. You got to ask questions. I wonder how to just
get paid. You know? You have to do Bitcoin or something?
I think it was just cash. I think it was like regular money.
Yeah. Like, they just got payments. And they're like, oh, yeah.
it might count nice.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
Hey, what do you think what's going on up in?
Do you think it's any proof to like Haitians up there eating ducks and cats and dogs?
I don't know, man, but that sucks because I love duck.
You know what I mean?
I understand.
I love duck.
And now next time I go to a restaurant or I go to a Chinese restaurant or whatever and I order a duck, I got to be like, damn, they're judging me.
I can feel them looking at me sideways because I want duck.
I just want to eat my duck in peace
I think it's cool in the restaurant
but if you're walking down the street
you see the ducks
That's crazy
I live on like a little lake
And we have ducks in the back
And my daughter's looking at the ducks
I'm like yeah we're gonna eat that for dinner
I can't even make that joke anymore
Yeah
You know
Hey what was like you see all these people
Coming in our country legally
What was your experience like when you migrated to you?
Well no I was born here
Okay you're born here
But I've been around a lot of
immigrants. I lived in Flushing in Queens for a long time. So that is probably 80% immigrant
and Asian and mostly Korean and Chinese. And even the ones that are here legally, and even the ones
that are here illegally, are pretty pissed off, which is funny. Right. Yeah. Because, you know,
they, even the ones that are here legally currently and that have been here for a long time.
Right. They're like, we had to do a lot of stuff to sneak in this country illegally. Right. Right.
It was not just walk across the border. We had to, hey, guy.
And then we had to, like, get in a container and, like, sneak in.
And we had to pay all these people.
Right.
And we had to figure out how to keep her, like, nose is clean and try to figure out how to
assimilate.
And now people are just being flown in and they're being giving money.
And they're like, dude, it's messed up.
Right.
You know?
Yeah.
There's a right way to do it illegally.
Mm-hmm.
So I think a lot of people that are here are pretty annoyed.
Right.
Right.
What's a lot of, I would really like to point out as like these Haitians, they flew them into
a red state.
Yeah.
They're going to make them citizens.
They're going to be living in that state.
And it's not that we can do to stop because they actually seek the prerequisites.
They have their prerequisites to be citizens.
Yeah, I talked to a guy that works for the USCS, which is the division that process immigration
applications.
And he said that they are not, they are no longer processing the form.
So say you're here legally and you're a citizen or whatever and you want to sponsor your family
member that's in another country.
It's form, I think, I,
230 or something like this.
They stopped processing that form.
So, for example,
if you have a relative in Korea
or in China or in Venezuela
or whatever, not Venezuela,
in Brazil, and you want to bring them here legally,
they are no longer processing
the application.
Instead, that entire division
is now spent on
how to process Venezuelans.
So if they come here illegally,
They are giving them two years of free stay.
You're allowed to roam the country as you wish.
And basically, if you bring children, then you pay a fine and you're good to go.
They're almost encouraging trafficking.
They're almost encouraging people to come in.
And they are discouraging people from coming here legally.
And that happened in the last six months, I believe.
Right.
Yeah, my wife, she came to this country from Mexico City.
Right.
She came legally.
And then, but she lost all the paperwork.
She couldn't even prove that she was here legally,
but she graduated high school and everything.
And we got married, so we decided to fix her papers.
So we had to go to this, what was the city?
Sidharis and Maygo.
That place was scary.
When I was driving across the board, I was like shaking.
Because I was looking at these houses like this made out of cardboard.
Right.
And I was like, people live in that shit.
So we get that right.
It's a dust bowl, right?
It's trash everywhere.
It's the most inhumane thing I've ever seen.
And then the toughest thing about it when we got there,
she was deported for 60 days.
I had to leave her there.
So I was prepared to bring over the board illegal.
I said, no, just shut the fuck up,
getting the trunk going home.
Yeah.
But she stayed, fortunately, she had family there.
Yeah, that was, she did everything right.
And it felt like they was punishing her.
And the way they treated us when we was there
and how they greeted, they treated her like she wasn't even human.
really horrible. Yeah, it's not easy because there are people trying to do it the right way.
And the waiting list for people to do it the right way is so long.
You know, there are people that have been waiting in the system for two, three, four,
five, six, seven, eight, ten years. Right. And all of a sudden, you let all these people in
improperly. And they're like, what the hell? Like, why are you jumping me? I've been waiting
and doing everything that I was told to do. It's, it's, there's something unfair about it, you know?
Yeah. Yeah. You know, on the right side, they say it's a, they call it a conspiracy, but
they're trying to replace,
well, add voters to the Democrat roles.
That's all they're doing.
Yeah.
That's what I think.
Now, politically, which side do you lean on?
I mean, I'm definitely a conservative.
Okay.
I believe strongly in very strong conservative values,
Christian conservative values.
But as far as government,
I think the whole thing is rigged.
But we do have a binary choice of the country
of which side we're going to vote for.
And I think it's important that we vote for the side,
at least representing the side of good,
or at least trying to be the side of good.
I know that there are,
a lot of people that aren't overly happy with maybe some things about President Trump.
I happen to like him.
Yeah.
You know?
I think he's perfect.
You know, everything about him is so perfect.
I like his faces who are making during the debate.
But who you think is going to win the election?
I think it's 50-50.
It's going to be close, right?
It's going to be really close.
It should be.
If it was fair, it'd be a landslide.
Yeah.
I'm thinking the key state to win is Pennsylvania.
Yeah.
If we win Pennsylvania, I think we got it.
But if we lose Pennsylvania, I'm not going to be confident.
Yeah.
I think it's the 1% of uneducated, not un-eached,
1% of uninformed voters within the battleground states
that are going to make a difference.
Did you see that interview?
What's that famous basketball player?
It looks like me.
I look better than him.
He shoots a lot of threes and shit.
A lot of them?
Oh, Stephen Curry.
Stephen Kerr.
He said he was voting for Kamala because he supports women's choice.
to choose.
Yeah.
I was like, come on, dude.
Yeah, Democrat voters vote on like,
they're like single policy voters.
No, I think that's this line they gave him
because they probably paid him to support the left.
I was like, come on for a man.
Why am I going out to vote for a woman
because I want her to have the right to choose?
I think it's really a part of the mass psychosis event, right?
People are being convinced,
and they are, the Democratic Party is so good
at infiltrating deep into social media,
deep into YouTube.
They're better politicians.
And you don't even know where it's coming from.
Right.
I was with a friend of mine, and we're in the car with his daughter.
She was 11 years old.
And somehow we were talking about Kamala, not like anything serious, just the name came up.
And she says, oh, we're going to vote for Kamala, right?
And everyone looked at her like, what?
Why?
And she's like, oh, yeah, because she's so brat.
Like, what does that mean?
Yeah.
And like, and the mom goes, what is it?
Is it about Kamala that you'd want to vote for her?
She's 11.
She says, because she's good for women's rights.
You don't care about women's rights?
Right.
She's 11 years old.
Where did she get that from?
Right, right.
And what rights is Trump trying to take away from a woman?
That's exactly what she said, what, mom, why would you even ask that?
You don't care about women's rights?
Right.
She's not watching top 10 reasons Kamala Harris is amazing.
That's not the video she's watching.
She's just watching regular YouTube, watching regular content,
and infiltrated inside of it somewhere
are these talking points.
They're so deep within the system
and we have no idea and no way to track it
because we don't see it.
Right.
Yeah.
I think that's the most concerning part.
They are so deep.
Yeah.
Women is very gullible
when it comes to or not.
Because the only reason why Democrats
get in the office is because of women.
Yeah.
Women and the Negroes.
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Thanks.
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Yeah.
Hey, what, have you always been conservative?
What red pill did you?
Well, I, I've always been more conservative because I remember my father when I was young,
I say, why are we Republican?
And he says, because we don't like to pay a lot of taxes.
That's fair.
That makes a lot of sense.
I can totally get behind that.
But I think 2020 was a red pill moment for most people.
Yeah.
You know, it's like everyone's dying, everyone's going to die.
And they're telling you all the day long.
and you look around and you're like, bro,
everyone's still here.
Right.
You know?
Like, I don't know anyone.
Yeah.
Yeah, my red pill moment was Obama.
I voted for him his first term.
Good job, thanks.
Yeah.
Thanks again for that one.
I was one of those Negroes.
But, you know, me, us being self-employed,
we got this letter in the mail about insurance.
Health insurance.
Health insurance.
Almost doubled, and we lost coverage,
and it gave us the reasons why.
He said in big bold letters, Obama care.
Then I started to take it.
listen. I got family
that's Republicans. Yeah, my brother.
You put it in my ear. Yeah.
Yeah. So he started, I was like, you're
Republican? You're crazy. You're black.
You know, I was one of those
black guys. Mama walking around house with
Obama shirt on. Yeah. So
I started to listen. I came across
Larry Elder, Ben Shapiro.
She started making sense.
But I still voted for Obama
because I want to see a black president. And I thought that
that was great for America to have a black president.
Racism is over. Nope.
it's more racism than ever
according to those people so
that was my red pill moment
that's why I decided to vote red
because they actually hurt my business
they took food out
off my table and it put
its stress on my family
yeah well Democrats
they don't they don't stand on policy
they just stand on
painting the other side as evil
and being an existential threat
they don't like Republicans
stand on policy and we haven't
won a popular vote in
I came I think it was
Reagan was
the last person.
Long time.
Yeah.
So,
and now I want to bring up
this issue
about abortion.
What,
are you pro-life
or pro-choice?
Definitely pro-life.
Definitely pro-life.
I think that
abortion is killing babies.
That's what I believe.
Right.
I understand that women's right to choose
and I'm on the fence.
Because I don't like
the government
intervening in people's lives at all.
Actually,
I think the government
should be as small as possible.
Right.
And unless the majority
of the country agrees
on something, I don't think the federal government should be evolved at all.
Right.
So I think that's why Trump and having Roe v. Wade overturned was a good thing.
Let the states decide because how people feel are different.
I'm just more than my stance on abortion, I am even more anti-big government and them
interfering in our lives.
So sometimes you have to live with policies that you don't like for kind of what the greater
good is.
And the greater good is that the federal government is too large.
it is trying to control the way we live our lives.
And I think that's the biggest danger to society.
Yeah.
I think for the most part that one issue is what's hampering the Republican part.
I think we need to come to terms and regulate it and move on
because we lose so many votes on this one issue.
But there's Republicans that don't want to ban.
They want to just outright ban it.
Yeah.
Because it's just so, you know, it hurts.
It hurts.
Yeah.
The Republican Party.
I mean, I think there's a fine line between saying,
I want the federal government to control your life,
which is what a ban would be,
and saying,
I vehemently disagree with or absolutely hate
or I don't agree at all with abortion.
So I think you have to be unapologetic in your viewpoint, right?
Like you have certain core values that you believe in.
Don't be scared, say it.
But at the same time, I don't want the government to decide that for other people.
Right.
You know, what we should do is that if you are pro-life
and you think that abortion is killing babies,
you should figure out a way to convince the rest of the population to agree with you.
not try to have the government do your job.
Right.
We as society need to fix ourselves.
We as a society need to fix the culture of society
and stop looking for Big Brother to fix the problems for us.
Do you think after watching that debate,
do you think a lot of women in the son of limb,
they don't know who they want to vote for,
but this is a very important issue for them?
You think they're willing to vote Republican this time
after that debate?
Because for me, I don't think he was,
when they ask him that question,
you're going to totally, you know, outright not ban, do a federal abortion ban.
He didn't answer the question.
He kept saying, I don't have to.
I was like, why don't you just say it?
Yeah.
And he didn't want to say it, which makes me believe there is some truth behind that.
If he comes out with an executive, let's say he becomes president.
He signs like executive order and they put more restrictions on abortion.
Republicans will not win another election for the foreseeable future if they do that.
I think they're going to kill the Republican Party.
I mean, I would argue that Republican Party is already dead.
Yeah. Yeah. That is true, too.
You know, I think that's the hardest part of it.
You know, like, I believe in no government.
Actually, I'm as close to no government invention at all as possible.
At the same time, I believe strongly in very strong conservative values.
Yeah.
I think the problem is that the Republican Party and the conservatives have been so willing to give on their values so much.
I think you have to stand firm on your values.
Right.
because, you know, the left doesn't budge.
They want to kill all babies and reduce humanity, right?
And they will never give.
To save the environment.
Yeah, to save the environment because global warming.
Right.
And the Republicans are like, okay, we'll like accept just a little bit
and you keep on moving goalpost.
And the Overton window keeps on shifting further and further left,
which is why we ended up where we are.
Right.
I think the right should have stayed as hard right as possible
and to combat the hardness of the left.
And then some way we would have some sort of order and balance in society.
It's because the left never budges.
The right always budges.
And therefore, we're constantly moving to goalpost.
I think that's a big problem.
Yeah, when I look at modern conservatism today,
I don't even see them as Republicans or conservatives.
I look at them as more like a pro-life liberal.
Yeah.
Because the left is when it's so far left.
Yeah.
I don't even, like, for the most part, I came across,
who was that one, Chuck Norse?
Chuck Norse.
Yeah, he said, man, the leftist went so far left.
He said all Republicans are just liberals nowadays.
Because if you look at the Republican part of the day, there was Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, yeah.
Tough border security.
Yeah.
You know, tough on crime.
Yeah.
That's really what we are.
Yeah.
Old Joe Biden wasn't that bad.
He was hard on those Negroes.
Called him super predators.
Do you guys see that clip recently of Joe Biden from the MAGA hat?
Yeah, I saw that.
I saw that.
Did you see the whole clip?
Joe? That was crazy.
The whole clip. Yeah.
And when I first saw the picture of him
putting on the house, like, dude, this guy's lost.
Right. And then you watch the whole
clip, and you're like, he's actually like engaging
and having fun with them. I was like, that's
old Joe Biden. He was actually
didn't seem that lost. He knew what he was doing.
He was playing with the crowd and having fun with them.
Like, that's the Joe Biden. We kind of
knew.
You know how old are?
Huh?
Remembering your name?
Can you make that big?
You're a little.
You're a little part.
You're an old part.
Yeah, I know, man.
I'm an old guy.
And you're an old.
I know you would more about that.
What?
I'm being old.
Oh, I know.
All right.
I'm a young time.
Cut.
You remind you the guys that grew up with the one in the neighborhood.
You know, I'm not the other than one.
You know the keys back out.
There you go, man.
I need that hat.
I need that hat.
You want my autograph?
Hell no.
Come on.
I ain't going that for.
Yeah.
You're going to do a selfie.
There is going.
I'm proud of you now.
Just remember, no eating dog and cats.
Hey, they're good.
They're good.
I hope you like the peach.
You guys picked the fish again.
I didn't know where it's...
It's not easy.
It's funny that now that he's no longer running for president,
he totally don't give a shit.
He don't give a shit.
Now it's like, all right.
Actually, he was kind of likable back in the day.
And you're starting to see glimmers of that.
Yeah.
He kind of feel bad for him because he totally got...
It was totally a coup.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He should be surprised.
We keep saying we're the biggest threat against democracy is them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nobody voted for her.
No.
Yeah, she's running.
She was most unlike when she actually ran for president.
She was the first one to drop out.
She polled at 1%.
How crazy would it be if he came out and he's like,
oh, like, they screwed me.
It was a coup.
I didn't want to leave.
I'm going to vote for Trump.
That would be awesome.
How wild would that be?
Hey, what do you think about RFK, Jr.?
I've been on stage of Trump?
I think he's interesting.
He's a Democrat.
He's a, he's a true.
The only liberal, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, he's a true liberal.
So I don't agree with a lot of stuff he says.
But I think he's honest and genuine in what he's trying to do.
So I think that's the most important thing right now.
He's like, do the people that you're listening to you or you're voting for,
are they at least honest and genuine?
And do they actually believe what they're saying?
Right.
I think that needs to be the new standard of what we're looking at.
Right.
Because everyone's lying to you.
Everyone in media is lying to you.
All the politicians are lying to you.
Right.
So if they're honest, at least you understand what they're doing.
I think he cares about the issues he cares about.
And although I don't agree with, say, his stance on abortion,
I don't agree with his stance on.
He didn't flip-flop on that multiple times.
He flips a lot on certain things.
Yeah.
But he cares about health.
Right.
He cares about the weaponization of the FDA and the USDA and things like this.
He cares a lot about censorship.
He cares a lot about, you know, things like this.
So I'm all for that.
I like that he's on this side.
I think that's a game changer.
Yeah.
But still going to be close.
It's still going to be close.
I think before he endorsed Trump, I think it was, I wasn't as big of a Fed.
I think you had a binary choice.
And I felt like he was taking more Trump voters than Kamala voters.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But now that he's on the side.
Yeah.
I think it's a good thing.
When Vovique was running for president, I really like Vavit.
And I really like Tosie Gabbitt, too.
Especially Tosie because she came from the Democrat Party.
When I looked at Vovic, when he was running, he pulled very, very bad.
And I was like, this guy says everything right, he's perfect.
He sounds like AI.
I was like, why is this dude not polling better?
I think he should have been Trump's VP pick or Tosi Gabbard or, you know, somebody that's not white.
Well, I think he's just, I mean, even that white lady is, Ann Coulter, because he's not white.
Yeah.
We brought that up to him when we interviewed him.
He got a little uncomfortable.
He got uncomfortable.
And he said, no, that's not what it is.
and I was like
I told him
dude if you had a blonde ponytail
blue eyes you had 1776
crush your face you'd be Trump's VP
pick do you think he'd be as popular
if he was white
he'd be more popular you think
yeah because there are a lot of people
that are saying the same thing and it's not
as actually interesting you don't think that
the colored part of it makes it more
interesting
no I think he polled
so bad because he's not white
you know why I say this
I see a lot of
people out in town. They said, I said, man,
what you think about that for Vique, man?
They said, man, I don't trust him.
And every last white person
told me this. He sounds too much
like Obama. Yeah. I was like,
wait a minute. The guy's not even black.
He's in a Republican. Why y'all keep comparing him
to a black liberal?
Yeah. A black progressive. A black
progressive liberal.
I was talking to a gas station
guy. There's a gas station right by my office.
And I was there getting coffee and
Every once in a while we'll talk politics.
Random guy, Indian guy.
And one day I asked him, like, what do you think about Vivek?
Mm-hmm.
And Indian guy, he goes, who's that?
I said, what do you mean?
Who's that?
He's Indian.
He's running for president.
Right.
He's like, why?
Like, you don't want to vote for him?
He's like, no, he's Indian.
The Indian guy didn't want to vote for an Indian guy.
The Indian guy's racist too.
Indian guy's like, why would I vote for an Indian guy?
Right.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that has a lot to do with it.
I don't think a lot of people is willing to admit it
because if you make him as VP
or actually say you nominate him
as a Republican Party and during the election
we have a poor turnout, that will
confirm everybody's suspicions on the left.
Because that's all they say.
Everybody on the right is racist.
I would say it's not racism. It's a bias.
It's a bias.
Yeah. I like Ben Carson.
I love Ben Carson.
I thought he would have been a really good
VP pick. I was a huge fan of that potential pick.
Kind of a little sad that didn't happen. J.D. is good too, but...
J.D. is awesome. Yeah, but I really like Ben Carson. I think that made a lot of sense.
Right, because he's not going to run for president next. Yeah. There's no threat, and he's like,
so even keel and helps balance off Trump. Right. You know, so anyone that says Trump is too
radical or he's two in your face, then you have, you know, Dr. Ben Carson, who kind of creates
that balance, and a lot of people would think, okay, like, I don't try. I don't try.
trust Trump, but I trust
Dr. Ben. So I can get behind
this. I thought that might have been a good move.
But, you know, what do I know? You know what to piss me off?
If Ben Carson runs for president
and I ask people out and tell him, what do you think about
Ben? Man, I don't trust him.
Sounds like Obama to me.
I'm like,
maybe he'll get Vivek.
Do you like Vivek?
I'm on the fence.
You don't trust him. You don't trust him. I don't trust him.
You sound like Obama, right?
I don't trust him. He sounds too much like Obama.
you know
some people say
he's like
he's too perfect
yeah his
his questions are
he's too well spoken
I think
I think there's something
about
he sounds scripted
he says too scripted
and he understands technology
you know what people
are thinking about
if you have access
to algorithms
you have understanding
what the conversations are
then it's really easy
to just say
exactly what people want to hear
right
I think you have to have
a little flaw
in your argument
because it makes you more human
for example
makes you sound
Genuine.
Yeah, a lot of comedians, when they go up on stage, they could maybe not stutter ever.
They don't have Oz.
They don't do these things.
But you add them intentionally.
It makes you more relatable.
If you come off too polished, it looks fake.
Right.
You know, it's almost like that where the human psychology wants people that are a little more relatable.
And J.D. Vance, when he goes on interviews, he'll say like, dude, you know, like, bro.
He's very likable.
And people like that because it's relatable.
Right.
That's a good point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I think that's polished.
And that takes time.
I think if he decides he's going to stay in politics longer.
Yeah.
Do you think Vivek has a future with the Republican Party?
I guess it depends on whether or not he wants to get involved.
Like he's done very well for himself.
He doesn't have to.
Yeah, he's a billionaire.
You know?
So it really depends.
I think people are really sketchy of people that just show up out of nowhere.
Right.
And all of a sudden, like, hey, I'm going to run for president.
And I'm a billionaire.
Like, okay, like, really?
Yeah, where did you get your money?
Oh, he worked at a pharmaceutical company.
Oh, fuck you.
Yeah.
But if he sticks around for four, five, six years.
Yeah, it's going to take some time.
Yeah, six years or eight years later.
He's like, okay, I'm going to run for president.
And you've been a part of the process for eight years.
Then now it's, okay, I know you, I trust you.
You've been around.
You didn't come out of nowhere.
We have a understanding of what your real policies are, who you are.
I think you have to think long game.
I think that the Democratic Party thinks long game.
They've been prepping Gavin Newsom to be run for president in four, eight years forever.
Right.
Back to your point, he is so fake.
fake. But Democrats feel like they know him. And they know his ups, they know his downs, they know
that they lied to you during COVID, but then he kind of apologized and they're over it. You know,
like it gives you time to go through that. And with Vivek, you didn't have that time to kind of learn.
I think that was the biggest problem for RFK also. Yeah. He just, I don't know. He's like,
I'm running for president. You're like, okay, I kind of like his policies. What if the independent
candidate was campaigning for five years? By the, I don't know.
that time election season comes around, you're like, all right, I kind of understand him, I like
him, I can put my support behind him, and it doesn't feel like a third way vote. Right.
You know, so I think that's part of it. If you want to get new into politics, I think you just have
to get involved a little bit sooner. People, presidential cycles start one year before, but
it's a really important decision. You've got to be in the public eye longer now.
What do you see happen in this country of Kamala Harris becomes president? I think you and I are going
to jail. I'm going to Thailand.
They're going to get you before that.
They're tracking you.
I think that's a huge concern.
Yeah, I have a lot of people think if Kamala wins his presidency,
a lot of conservative media is going to get shut down.
Yeah.
They can clamp down on everybody.
Yeah, I think totally change your content.
I think that's a lot of it.
They've been tracking who says what,
who is spreading certain rumors,
and they'll figure out, okay, that was not true, that was not true.
And the reality is, even if we have our best intent
on putting out information,
you're only as good as a data you're given.
Right.
And we're given flawed data.
So therefore, our takes can't be perfect.
It's impossible.
Right.
Because we have flawed data to work with.
No one ever tells us a true data.
Same thing goes for CNN.
Fox News.
They're not perfect.
They pay the main set dollars in lawsuits.
They can't be.
And they put out a retraction in a paper three weeks later,
hidden on page 54.
No one ever reads it.
And they're like, oh, yeah, but we apologize.
It's okay.
We don't have that liberty.
Right.
You know, and I think they're keeping tabs on everybody.
They have a database of who's good, who's bad, who's been compliant, who's been helpful,
who is willing to be compliant if given a little bit of pressure.
And if you've shown that you are kind of anti-establishment, I think you're going to have a hard time.
Right.
Yeah.
Your podcast is blowing up.
What if you did to insulate yourself from something like that happening to you?
Just always tell the truth.
Yeah.
You know, like don't take money.
Don't do weird deals.
Yeah.
Don't take 400 grand a video.
Yeah, you just can't do it.
Yeah.
Because you never know.
Right now they are keeping tabs on everybody.
I think you just have to be as honest and genuine as possible.
And if you're wrong, you're wrong.
But at least no one told you to do that.
And you are acting in your best interest.
I think in the long run, people who are honest and genuine will win the social media and content game.
Because as everything, all content becomes more digital, everything becomes more AI,
that the people who are honest and genuine and more analog will win
because value is in scarcity
and analog people will be scarce.
So I think that's just the long-term play.
It's not the best short-term play
because right now if you create AI closer of yourself
and you put out unlimited content and information,
you'll probably make money now.
But I think it's harder to survive long-term.
I think AI's going to be used as a weapon against us.
Yes.
I think you're fucking.
Let's just walk out of you.
Go down with the shit.
It's fine.
Put on a dress.
So I'm doing content for them.
Right.
All you got to do is one.
Just one, one episode of an address.
I go work for Russia, man.
You're going to give me $400,000 video.
I'm fine.
I still can't get over that.
That is crazy.
What would you do if they offer you $400,000?
I can't do it.
Yeah.
I'd be like, wait a minute.
You're going to pay me $400,000 for one video?
Where's this money coming from?
That's the first question I would ask.
I think it's a really slippery slope.
You know, so I'm in the camp of say no to everything,
which is not the best business decision
because, dude, like, we want to make money.
But I think this tenant media thing shows
that anyone that took it, even just a little bit,
everyone's kind of worried, right?
Yeah.
I have no idea where that came from.
These people are not sleeping in night, huh?
Yeah, I mean, especially in this era,
what they did to Trump.
Trump hasn't broken the law.
He's been convicted of 34 felons.
You're taking 400.
$100,000.
Yeah.
You got to be guilty of something.
I would not have.
Yeah, be careful.
It's not easy.
It's not easy because, you know,
sometimes you do stuff that you say things because you agree and you take the money.
And you're like, oh, but it's something I agree with.
And I get that.
But, man, you never know.
And this proves it.
This shows.
You have to be careful.
Yeah.
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Hey, what do you feel about what's going on in Israel?
Mm.
And, uh, we gotta be careful
because Jewish people are very powerful.
So take some of your advice.
Be genuine.
Only say the truth.
I only say the truth.
I made a video once saying,
how come I can criticize
Black people, Hispanic people, Asian people,
gay people, trans people, everyone.
Right.
But if I say something about Jewish people,
then they're going to cancel me.
Yeah, they're perfect, though.
That's why you can't do.
And I made this video, and I put it online,
and I got all these letters from Jewish fraternities
saying that they're going to sue for defamation.
Really?
Are you bullshit?
Seriously.
I got letters from Jewish attorneys saying that they're going to sue me for defamation because I can't say that.
I was like, this is proving the point, isn't it?
Yeah.
What did you say?
I just told you what I said.
That is crazy.
Just criticized them, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
I think this was like right after October 7th.
So the timing of it was not the best.
That was horrible.
You waited like two days.
Yeah.
You know what it?
The racist thing I find what they say, they say we're anti-Semitic.
And all we're doing is criticizing one Semitic group of people over another Semitic group.
I'll say, if I'm not anti-Semitic, I'm trying to protect another group of people that's anti-Distemitic.
They act like Semitism.
It only applies to Jewish people.
It doesn't apply to Muslims, Palestinians.
You could be Muslim.
All the people of that area.
It's almost like they hijacked that word for just for them.
Yeah, I think it's like over-sensitive on one side.
Because if we say, oh, the Chinese are buying up all the farmland, it's not every single Chinese person.
Right? It's a very select view.
You're some of them, right?
Right?
If you say, you know, black people all voted for Obama and ruined politics forever, it's not all black people.
Maybe you guys did.
But there are people out there that didn't.
Right.
So I think people just talk in blanket statements.
And I think that's fine.
You know, it proves a point.
Right.
You know, but people get really upset about that.
Yeah.
Hey, what do you think about black?
you think of black culture, what do you think?
Like, like rap music?
That's a trick question.
Like rat music?
I was like, I'll pass like that.
No, I'm just like getting a perspective from somebody that's not black.
I have a perspective on black people.
Yeah.
And I think, like, there's a, hold on, let me do some talking.
When I think of black culture, I think of the subculture within the black community.
The ratchet, the ghetto.
Yeah.
The uneducated.
they're ignorant, the loud, the obnoxious.
That's what I think of because there's so many of,
I mean, 95% of them vote for Democrats.
I should tell you something.
That's no other demographic in this country
votes for one party.
And we have stereotypes for a reason.
Like when I come across a person, Asian,
first thing in positive, this dude is real good at math.
Yeah, he's smart.
I am good at math.
Yeah.
You are?
Yeah, of course.
I'm Asian.
We've got steel types for reasons.
You know?
I mean, like, Exapa, your culture, like,
yeah.
I don't see homeless Asian people.
I don't see Asian gains like taking over like cities.
I mean, I just don't see that.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like when I see Latinos, I think hard workers.
Family, you know, good family.
I think of black people, I think of the, they pull in a race car 24-7.
I think of degeneracy.
So when I was in high school, I went to high school in Ohio.
And the school I went to Ohio was maybe three Asian kids in my grade.
The school was 4,000 kids.
thousand kids per grade. There was three Asian kids.
Big school. Did she feel oppressed?
Of course. And majority white and maybe 10% black.
Right. So being the minority, I hung out with all the black kids.
And at that time, I remember when Jackie Chan did a movie with Chris Tucker, I was like, yes, finally.
Right. And I listened to a lot of Wu-Tang Clan.
Right. And they watch a lot of Kung Fu movies. Like, yeah, I like Wu-Tang Klan because they watched Kung Fu movies.
Right. So there was a certain respect for black culture at that time.
because they were really setting the trend
on what culture was.
They were pushing the envelope
and all, even all the white kids
were doing all the black things.
And then M&M came around
and then ruined it for everybody.
But until then,
you know, there were black people
were setting the trend
and whatever's going on.
That's a long time ago.
It seems like now.
It does, doesn't it?
You know, it's crazy about black culture?
Everything you see in modern society,
everything's been touched by black culture,
music, everything, movies.
things we use inventions.
Everything is at, you know, sports.
Black people did a lot of goodness countries.
Like recently, it's just,
black people just took a turn for the worst.
Yeah, I mean, every time,
if there's a hierarchy of peoples in the world
and within the United States,
they're responsible for slavery.
If you have white people and black people,
because it depends on how you, depend on who you ask.
White people, black people,
Hispanic people really.
No, it's this.
You got to.
wrong Jews, then white people.
Get black people dead last.
Well, no, dead last is Asian people.
Yeah.
We weren't even here.
Okay.
Right?
Not here.
Not a part of it at all whatsoever.
But every time that a white cop beats a black guy,
black people are burning Asian businesses.
Like, why?
Yeah.
We weren't even a part of it.
Not even here yet.
Not even here yet.
Had nothing to do with this.
Right.
You know? So that kind of is one of those things.
Yeah.
There was a campaign going.
It was like Stop the Asian hate.
I didn't realize what was going on.
But it turns out it was a bunch of black people.
Well, it was bigger than news.
And everyone wanted to talk about Stop Asian Hate
because this was right after BLM.
So everyone wanted to be the identity politics.
And then they realized it was a bunch of black people in Democratic cities
doing all the violence.
They're like, oh, just kidding.
Just kidding.
Nothing to say here.
Right.
It's not a thing.
Don't worry about it.
What was that all about
that was mad at Asian people
because of COVID?
I think it was COVID.
Was it related to COVID?
I think it was just,
still going on, by the way.
Really?
Yeah.
Where in Democratic City,
especially the places like
San Francisco, L.A., New York,
where random people
will go up to old grandmas,
like walking the street
and just hit him.
Oh, they call it the knockout game.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
It's actually one of the worst things
you can do.
Yeah.
They go after old people
or elderly people
and just hit them and runaway.
It's like the worst thing.
That's the cool.
trouble was talking about, man. It's just, it's horrible. It's so bad and it's just,
fuck. But the reality is that people, I truly believe that a lot of people do these really
extreme things because if they do them, they have the chance to go viral. And people care
so much more about virality and clicks and views that they're willing to do things that they
normally wouldn't do. Yeah. They wanted to record themselves. Yeah. Breaking along.
Correct. The same reason. Same reason why people were dancing on cop cars during BLM.
They didn't care about BLM.
They just wanted to go viral.
And if we stopped giving attention in this attention economy
to those types of videos,
actually I think a lot of it goes away
because they don't have a desire to do it anymore.
They don't do it because they actually hate people.
I don't think most people actually hate people.
They just want to go viral more.
You just take a group of good people
and all it takes is one bad apple and make them all.
That's the whole argument about TikTok.
There's two versions of TikTok.
The American TikTok,
where they're like feeding people
all this bullshit and indoctrinating them
and then their TikTok
they're used to
to educate their population.
Have you seen the Chinese version of TikTok?
No, I haven't.
I just, that's the same.
It's the same.
It's the same.
It's almost similar.
It's a lot of girls dancing.
It's a lot of,
there's just not as much.
A lot of Asian girls dance?
A lot of Asian girls dance.
Go check it out.
Go check it out.
Get some of that long time.
I think a lot of it is,
like in the Chinese version,
they don't have like a lot of trans content.
It's because the people in China don't want to watch trans content.
Actually, it's a cultural thing.
So the culture of China, they don't want to see a lot of violence.
They don't want to see a lot of trans content.
They don't want to see a lot of these extreme things.
Therefore, the algorithm doesn't show them and people don't make that type of content.
Here in the United States, people want to see that crazy shit.
And therefore, people make it and the algorithm feeds it to you.
Actually, if you say that the Chinese honestly,
if the Chinese content is different than the U.S. content,
it's actually very indicative of society.
Right.
Americans want to see that.
Yeah.
It's our culture.
It's a cultural difference.
It's not an algorithmic difference.
I don't think so.
Because I've seen parts of Doyen,
which is a Chinese version.
It's almost the same.
Yeah.
Minus the really weird, radical crazy shit.
Right.
Yeah, that's crazy, man.
That whole thing about
Stopped Asian hate,
majority was black,
but they always say black people can't be racist.
Right?
I'm one of the most racist people.
Matt. Me too.
I think being racist is fine.
I think this idea that...
Just don't act on it.
Well, I think the idea that you have to remove racism is wrong.
It's like saying, you know, if you're a New York fan and I hate L.A. fans of whatever
your favorite sport team is, people hate each other.
Right.
Like, I want to kill them because, you know, they like the opposing team.
Like, that's okay.
But all of a sudden, but if it's a different country, that's not okay.
No, that's fine.
Just don't act on it.
You know, I think having stereotypes is fine.
Yeah.
Actually, don't bother me at all.
You know, like, oh, black people like fried chicken and watermelon.
Like, dude, I like fried chicken and watermelon.
It's my favorite thing to eat in the summer.
Why do you guys get to monopolize that?
I love that, too.
Yeah.
Who doesn't like fried chicken?
Who doesn't like it?
That's more.
Why is that a bad thing?
Or Asian people are good at math.
I'm like, awesome.
I am.
Yeah.
What's wrong?
Why is that a bad thing?
I don't like age, but why?
They're smart.
Thank you.
Amazing.
Well, fuckers can do everything.
I can't do.
You know, like, I wish I could play basketball.
Yeah.
You know?
I wish I could dunk.
Yeah, I wish I could dunk.
I used to dream about dunking.
You know, it never happened.
You could be whoever you want.
That's bullshit.
I can't dunk.
Right.
Let's talk about black people some more.
What do you think about Tarikia?
Who?
Tarik Hill.
The football player.
Oh, that was so.
All right.
I'm just kept his.
I'm going to get your take.
Yeah.
If I was Tarek Hill's friend.
And I pulled up and I saw him, I saw my buddy sitting on the ground with the cops over him.
I would have got out of the car too.
Right.
Regardless if I'm supposed to or I'm supposed to not, my buddy is on the ground and the cops are there.
I'm going to go try to help.
And maybe I'll get in trouble.
Maybe I won't.
So I think that was weird that they really went after him.
As far as Terry Kill, like open the window.
Right.
At the same time, the cop, it was overly aggressive.
You didn't have to do that.
Right.
So I think it's, I think it's really sad.
Because it was a situation that could have been easily avoided by both sides.
Right.
I think both sides could have done better.
It was a clash of egos.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Neither side wanted to give.
And it could have been completely avoided.
Right.
If a cop pulls you over for speeding and you have your window, and you have your window,
what's the first thing you're going to say when he knocks on your window?
Hell no.
You know, you're going to get your ass drag out of the container.
You go get that out of his car if you don't know.
Hell no.
Yeah.
Whatever I get put on by the cops, I'm like, I'm thinking, how can I make this go as smooth as possible?
Right.
And I'm just like, just polite, cordial, give the cop whatever he wants, my license registration.
I just make it smooth as possible.
Yes.
And that's the way I've always handled it.
And you know what?
I've never been dragged out of my car and put on my face and just subjected what they subjected to our kids.
I've gotten a lot of speeding tickets.
A lot.
And I've never had a bad experience with a cop.
Never.
I never did this.
I never did any of that.
If you're a white girl, they will let you go.
Oh, they let me go now.
You don't have any tickets I got of?
They pulled me over.
They come to the car.
Hogs twins?
What the fuck?
Dude, slow down.
Hold up.
Let me take a suffering real quick.
All right, man.
Y'all keep fighting for good fight.
Yeah, yeah.
But I just think if the person who's in the car, if they just polite, if you flex on a cop,
what cop's not going to flex on you back?
Yeah.
They got all the power.
So why you flex on them?
I've been pulling over when I was in military.
They let me go because I was in the cops.
uniform and I've been pulled over by cops for speed and I just was nice and
cordial with them and they let me go just give me a warning I don't understand this whole
this this perspective of from black people that they're scared of police that's all a lie
and they're lying to every if you're scared of police while you flexing on them yeah yeah
yeah exactly if you so it's all bullshit that's what I'm talking about black culture it's so
detrimental to them and all of society for that point then okay how do you fix that
How do you fix that detrimental and degradation of black culture?
What do you guys think?
Well, Democrats indoctrinate of black people do think and behave in a certain way.
They teach them to be, to victimize themselves.
But isn't that kind of a cop-out to say that the government is indoctrinating at the same time?
That's also saying we want the government to help it and fix it.
I think you think that's a cop-out?
A little bit.
What do you think is the root cause of that?
I think it's a big government.
Yeah, I think that the government can affect change or thinking that the government can indoctuate
and also thinking that the government can fix.
I think the reality is that we need to realize that the government can help or hurt us
that they're supposed to be there just to manage and oversee basic things
and stop letting them meddle in our lives.
I think it's a family thing.
I think we need to get back into family structure.
I think it's like when kids go to high school nowadays, a majority of classes we're taking is just stupid.
I think one class of persons should take every race.
It doesn't matter if you're black, white or whatever,
but the importance of family, single mothers,
how detriment that could be to society,
the importance of having a father in the home.
Everybody should take courses in this because people are so naive to this issue,
and then when you try to bring it up,
people try to say, oh, you're doing this in bad faith
because you hate black people.
No, that's the main root, main cause
to why black people are failing in this country.
They are dead last.
They always say there's a wage gap between black and white,
but they fail to say there's a wage gap between black and everybody else.
We're like dead last.
Even black people earn less than immigrants to come in this country, you know?
And it's just like the Democrats don't tell people that because they want them to be depending on the government.
Yeah, welfare.
The way the current system is, is that the federal government has the most power
and the household has the least power.
Actually, it has to be complete opposite.
The household has to have the most power.
It has to be the most important thing.
It has to dictate everything about your life.
And the federal government should have the least amount of power.
Right.
And we're just completely upside down.
I think we just have to flip that back.
Right.
You know, and really focus on families, on how you're treating your family.
How do you flip that back, though, especially in the black community?
When everything's, the black community is set up to fail.
It's in our music.
It's in the Democrats' politics.
It's in our TV shows.
In our churches.
And the black community does not point out his,
his behavior that instigated the entire situation.
Of course the cops are out alive,
but you're flexing on the cops.
When two egos come together,
who's going to win,
whoever has the most power?
His behavior that day comes from the system
that's making black people think
and victimize themselves.
Yeah.
Then on the other side,
Frick Hill, he did an interview
talking about, I want that cop gone.
I want him fired.
It's like, oh my God, this dude's a Cuban-American.
He sounds like an immigrant from his accent.
He came here from a communist
country. He's probably got kids. He's probably got a wife. Black people are so narcissistic. Nah,
nah, he needs to go. He's putting his life on a lot each and every day.
Well, he goes to play football and earns millions of dollars. Like, there's a, there's a
narcissism in black man that it makes me sick to my stomach. And Territ Hill is the textbook
definition of that. I saw the interview. I was so pissed. He didn't take any responsibility
for that whole incident. I mean, I think you said it is that they're getting it from the music,
they're getting it from the TV shows,
they're getting it from the culture.
And the reality is that there has to be movements,
just turn that stuff off.
Right.
They would stop making that content
if people stop consuming that content.
They love it, though, so they're fucked.
Next topic.
Hey, you are, like I said,
your podcast's blown up.
You are interviewed, Andrew Tate.
How did that go?
That went well, sketchy.
Go to, because I went to Romania for it.
Yeah, I was supposed to go out there, too.
That's why.
I'm scared I'm going to get arrested.
Dude, I.
When I went out there, number one, I brought four hard drives.
I had one friend that went with me.
I took one heart.
Oh, you went that to him?
Yeah, I went out to him.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, you can't leave the country.
Oh.
So I brought four hard drives.
I put one in my pocket.
I put one in my friend's pocket.
I put one in the luggage and I mailed one.
Oh, okay.
Because you never know.
You got to be careful.
They might seizure stuff.
And even when I was there, I'm in a restaurant and like these random cops are walking by and they look like cops.
They look like undercover cops.
and they're just walking by and back and forth,
and looking at me and looking at me, I'm looking at me,
like, all right, this don't feel good.
Wow, that's crazy.
Because I'm in Romania.
I don't want to get in trouble with Romania.
Who's an Asian guy?
You know, like this random Asian guy in the middle of Romania.
I stick out like a sore thumb.
Yeah, right, right, right.
Everyone knows, everyone that entire hotel knows
I'm there to see Andrew Tate.
There's no other explanation of why I'm there.
That's part why those cops are there.
Exactly.
And then my server just disappears.
He disappeared for an,
hour. Really? And I asked
another server like, where in our server go? Like,
it's been a while since I've seen him. And he's like,
oh yeah, I saw him outside talking to the cops. Like,
what? The server eventually comes back. And I said,
hey, everything okay? Yeah. He's like, oh yeah,
it's just busy on the other side of the hotel. I'm like,
bro, this is so sketchy. Why are you lying?
Why are you lying to me? They told me you're talking to the cops.
You know, I'm like, oh man. But Andrew was cool,
like super professional, so good at what he does. I think he's the best
podcast interviewer in the world.
I didn't know he was black.
His father's black.
He looks black.
Yeah.
I thought, I didn't think
when I look at him,
I don't see a black man.
When I think a black,
I think a Samuel Jackson or
Jinzell Washington.
To me, he looks like Puerto Rican,
Latino.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Got some ARAB in.
Yeah, I couldn't tell you.
He's like, to me, he's racially
ambiguous.
Yeah.
To me.
Yeah.
Like, not all black people look like this.
Like, some people think I'm Puerto Rican.
So I'm so good looking.
Everybody.
I think I'm a terrorist, though, but...
So you had Tucker Carlson on, too.
Yes.
That was pretty cool, too.
And the coolest part about all of it is that, you know,
I haven't been doing this very long.
And everyone that I got to interview that I would consider,
like, people would recognize,
they've all started following me first.
And then we get an opportunity to connect.
Like, holy shit.
Like, Tucker Carlson's team just start following me.
Like, I need to go talk to them right now.
Right.
So that's the coolest part of all.
is that it just naturally happened.
Everything has been completely organic
and super grateful for that opportunity.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the best way to build our audience is organically.
If you're paying for views
and getting people to watch it that way, it's not organic.
The way you're building it now is like, perfect.
No, I appreciate that.
I mean, I used to watch you guys
when you guys were doing fitness content.
Yeah, everybody says it.
You just watch you guys doing fitness videos.
Yeah.
Yeah. It was like, you guys and bro science.
That was the era.
Yeah.
Right.
That was the best time on YouTube.
That was the best time.
You could do anything.
And nobody cared.
I know you could curse the day.
They all.
Hey,
where can now people find you?
If you want to find someone on the internet these days,
you can find them.
Whatever your preferred doomscroll device is,
if you just search Matt Kim,
I'm sure I'll pop up.
Matt Kim.
Yeah.
Matt Kim.
I made that easy.
Hey,
they should people make everything easy.
Thank you for coming, bro.
Thank you, man.
Thank you.
Oh, yeah.
