Hodgetwins Podcast - Epstein List COVERUP?! You Getting What You Voted For Yet? | Twins Pod - Episode 73 - Harrison Smith

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

Harrison Smith is the morning show host at Infowars. He has been an outspoken critic of certain foreign countries... He mixes deep analysis with his sarcastic humor. We go over Trump's first 6 mon...ths, the rift between MAGA and the crazy cover-up going on with the Epstein files...Become a Member and Give Us Some DAMN GOOD Support :https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdg/joinGet your Twins merch and have a chance to win our Ford F250 & Camper - https://officialhodgetwins.com/Get Optimal Human, your all in one daily nutritional supplement - https://optimalhuman.com/Want to be a guest on the Twins Pod? Contact us at bookings@twinspod.comDownload Free Twins Pod Content - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_iNb2RYwHUisypEjkrbZ3nFoBK8k60COFollow Twins Pod Everywhere -X - https://twitter.com/TheTwinsPodInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/thetwinspod/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/twinspodTikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@twinspodYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdgRumble - https://rumble.com/c/TwinsPodSpotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/79BWPxHPWnijyl4lf8vWVu?si=03960b3a8b6b4f74Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/twins-pod/id1731232810

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We got Harrison Smith in the house. What's up, brother? Very disappointed Trump dropping bombs on a randum. But other than that, I feel good, man. Yeah, that and the Epstein thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years.
Starting point is 00:00:14 Are people still talking about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable. Look it's Marco Rubio. That is a thousand-yard stare if I've ever seen one. Oh, my God. It really is impossible to tell. It's fan-buck. You know, let's blame the woman.
Starting point is 00:00:35 She's the one running things. Trump is going, Pam, I just want the Epstein files out. And she's going, it's not happening, Trump. I'm not doing it. But Pam, please. It's been a very disappointing six months, I have to say. I mean, Trump has done some pretty amazing things.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Not to undercut everything Trump's done. He has shut the border. That's incredible. Deplotations are having effects. Absolutely great. The fact that he pardoned the January Sixers, that alone, I will never regret my vote. for Trump ever in my life. And like ever since then, it's like Elon Musk is split. There's a split in the
Starting point is 00:01:04 Mago. We're starting wars with Iran. It's just like, how did it go so off the rails? Right. So thoroughly. I think it was Trump. Yeah, I mean, apparently so. Hey, you ever seen Alex Jones go nuts behind the scenes? What? Just totally losing? I'm trying to think of a time. No, I can't. Yes. What, every day? Yeah. More or less. Yeah, every day. Gotta get back in a gym, man. Lost all my guys. games yeah Alex Jones is in shape we two fat fucks now he lost a lot of weight didn't he oh yeah a lot he's like a different dirt person now yeah so uh 73 yeah all right yeah welcome to episode 73 i totally fuck this up well i used to do this episode off to a good start
Starting point is 00:01:59 hey come on man Yeah Got a new podcast for you Episode 73 We got Harrison Smith in the house Yeah What's up, brother? How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:02:11 I'm doing great, how are y'all? I hang it in that, man. I was very disappointed Trump dropping bombs on a randah But other than that, I feel good, man Yeah, that and the Epstein thing Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I've got to be a client list out there
Starting point is 00:02:24 Yeah, there has to be videos Literally has to be I mean, there are 100%. There are Yeah, there's no question Yeah, uh, Pam Bondi, He said, oh, it's nothing but creepy pedophile videos.
Starting point is 00:02:36 He downloaded from the internet. They downloaded, yeah. Yeah, but didn't he have cameras in his house? Yes. In all of his houses and on the temple on his island. Yeah, I think he did. So that's very disappointing. It just seems like both parties are like two sides of the same coin when it comes to this kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Yeah. I mean, I don't even understand what, like, why? Why do they keep bringing it up? How did they think this was going to go? It's only going to cause more people to ask more questions about it. Right, right. It's... You remember they sent the influences down and it came out with these white binders in it.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Oh, my God. Just going to release it in waves. See that? Yeah. So what was that? I mean, like off the bat, like, I don't know. I think first they thought, we'll just, we'll pretend that we do it. We'll release things that everybody already knows.
Starting point is 00:03:28 We'll pretend this to the release. And we'll just throw chum in the water and that'll satisfy them. And everybody was like, what the hell is this bullshit? We're not going to stand for this. Right. And so now they're trying to just, like, bury it all. I don't know, man. I don't know what they're trying to do, but it's not working.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I haven't took a look at the video yet. Yeah, just that's the photo. They're like, got the up stand file. It's right here. I wish they got them. I bet they wish they could do that all over again. Yeah, see, phase one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:54 It's so bizarre. And there's no phase two. It's just her saying nothing's there. Phase one. of one yeah yeah you think they regret doing that I shouldn't I mean why were they even there shouldn't they just do it through normal channels you know you would think yeah yeah why you give it to a bunch of influences online that's on Instagram and that's why I think you just try trick people yeah yeah just get like get all the influencers to say they were
Starting point is 00:04:33 released and shut everybody up yeah did did this incident did it change your perception of Trump? No, not personally because I you know it's Trump it's you know you take the the good with the bad and his his inability to deal with stuff like that is always going to it's always going to be there. I mean I just I don't think frankly I just don't think cash and Dan have it in them I don't think they know what they're up against or knew what they were up against when they were talking big game before they actually got there yeah and were sat down across a table like this from a guy in a dark suit who went oh you want to know what's really going on here.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Right. Yeah, I'm not shocked actually. Yeah, nothing's come with this. Actually, I'm not shocked at all. You think Elon was right? Trump's on the list. I mean, at this point, you got to speculate. Like, I was firmly against that, you know, I think that's ridiculous because it would have been released at some point.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I mean, you, you know, they wouldn't let that not be put out. But at this point, it's like, what is, if there's another explanation, I'm open to it. But like, there's got to be an explanation. be an explanation and that's a perfectly valid one. So, you know, I mean, if Bill Clinton was on, they said they got him documented on that, on that airplane to his island 26 times. Oh, yeah. Oh, I think that was, well, there's Bill Gates and Bill Clinton. Bill Gates, I think, was like the 26 visits, which is an insane number of visits. Like, right. There's not a lot of places I've been 26 times in my life, including like, like my grandparents lived, lived in Colorado. I went there every
Starting point is 00:06:03 year as a kid. I still have not been to, you know, Southwest Colorado as much as Bill Gates has been to his island. But then Bill Clinton was Jeffrey Epstein's like best friend. And I was on a show, I was on Alkstein's show with one of the victims of Jeffrey Epstein. He said, Epstein introduced Bill Clinton as, or no, Bill Clinton introduced Jeff Epstein as the King of America to her. Really? Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I'm amazed by that painting he had of Bill Clinton with a blue dress with his legs crossed with red heels. Man, what does that mean? That means that Monica Lewinsky was a massad operative And it was a honeybond That's what that means Yeah This is the high level symbolic breakdown for you Oh I don't mean you look at it like that
Starting point is 00:06:49 Was she Jewish? Lewinsky said Jewish Yeah Oh she was Damn She had some high level connections Really? Yeah
Starting point is 00:06:56 I'm still I'm like Still catching on to the whole Jew thing So I was like Every time I bring someone on Just really got deep knowledge of what's going on in the world and you say like I never knew that yeah never knew that yeah yeah no whiskey it's right there in my face yeah well and yeah I mean you know that's why I'm not
Starting point is 00:07:18 surprised at the Epstein thing it's like at a certain point you stop being surprised at a certain point it's like right right okay they literally start wars over their lives like they will actually kill millions of people not in a vague kind of like oh an accidental like no they will start wars on purpose to slaughter a million people. Like, these people are capable of insane, insane crap. I have this feeling that this American First Movement has been infiltrated by Israel. I think they've hijacked it. I think, like, when Trump first ran in 2016, he established his platform on being against wars and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And the only way you stop that is the heart, which is Israel. if there's no Israel you don't have all these forever wars that we've been fighting for like the last 20 years so it's like I think Israel's like fucked everything up yeah
Starting point is 00:08:18 yeah but I think it's been that way for a very long time like I do cut Trump some slack in knowing that like what he's up against right yeah again like well they'll start wars they will kill presidents and get away with it they would like
Starting point is 00:08:31 it's an insane mafia of you know, pedophile, billionaires. Like, when we make these points, we get, like, a lot of pushback from our fans. We lose, like, subscribers whenever we bring up Israel. It's really weird. But I thought you were Christian. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Right. I was that why I'm saying these things because of Christian. Yeah. You know, but, yeah. What does Alex Jones think about your stance on Israel? You know, honestly, he, the only thing he said to me about it is if all I'm covering as Israel, he's like, you got to mix it up, so you can't spend the whole show
Starting point is 00:09:07 on Israel. But like, it's funny with Alex Jones because you know, working there, I see him every day, you would think I would have some behind the scenes and all. You would think there would be some like here's what's really going on kind of stuff. I wish. I wish that was the case. The dude just says everything on his show.
Starting point is 00:09:23 So if you watch his show, you know how he feels. And half the time that I get instruction from him, it's just because he's on his show going, you know, some of the other hosts love talking about Israel and they talk about Israel a whole time. I'm like, Thank you, Alex. I get it. I understand. But, you know, outside of that, like, he literally never, never brings it up to me. Because I'm very hard on Israel and I've been for a very long time. How did you guys meet? Me and Alex? Yeah. I got hired on Info Wars as a cameraman and editor
Starting point is 00:09:50 through Craigslist. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yes. It was a very, like, circumstantial, serendivitous sort of thing where I had a friend that worked in an office next door to Info Wars. So I knew where it was generally. And then when I saw the Craigslist ad, I put two and two together and went, I think this is in full wars. I think I'm going to apply to this. Wow.
Starting point is 00:10:10 So people actually do use Craig List other than for porn purposes, right? Because I'm thinking Craig List, I think of prostitutes. I'm thinking of glory holes. Glory holes. Glory holes in car action. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:10:28 That's amazing. I think of used cribs and bicycles. Yeah, you can bust up on it. Yeah, he's actually ran on himself. Let's totally tell you ever he's Craigslist. There's lots of other parts of Craigslist you could go to. Moron. I think of savings.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Yeah. You're the reason why I got banned. I need some PR help at Craigslist. Hey, I want to bring up Laura Lumer. Did you see what she tweeted about the 65 million people to feed to the alligators and alligator Alcatraz? I was like, no. You didn't see that?
Starting point is 00:11:05 No. The text post is crazy. I don't know why. I guess she was trying to be funny. Yeah, but some things you just can't joke about. Yeah, and I guess seen a lot of people like attacking her for it. And I was like, damn, bick, you did that to yourself. I guess I got see what she says for it.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah. Okay. Oh, it's crazy. On June 30th, she posted on X, alligator lives matter. The good news is alligators are guaranteed at least 65. Yeah, yeah. A million meals if we get started now. Why do you think she would complete illegal immigrants with the 65 million Latinos in the country?
Starting point is 00:11:39 Yeah, that's a mistake. But, you know, to be like she is just called for the death of, no, she's trying to be funny, obviously. Yeah, she wasn't, unfortunately. That's what happened when the Jew tries to be funny. The thing about that though, she's Jewish. Like when we criticize Israel, they call us anti-Semitic. Yeah. She just joked about feeding 65 million Latinos to alligators.
Starting point is 00:12:01 those the alligators and it's perfectly okay. You know what I'm saying? It's just like it's a double standard. Oh yeah. Well, yeah, there's a massive double standard on all that. And it's just a trick. It's just a trick. You can talk about Israel. It's a secular state. It is a secular state in the world just like any other state. It can be criticized just like any other state. I think that's a very obvious and increasingly less effective form of gaslighting, right? It's just not working anymore. Say you're anti-Semite. I know. When you're just talking about Israel,
Starting point is 00:12:32 I mean, babies to death. It doesn't work. Have you been to Israel? No. No, we got invited. Yeah? Yeah. For the trip?
Starting point is 00:12:40 You got invited on the trip. It's about a year ago. I said, fuck, no. I'd go. I'm not going to go there. They're going to kill me. No, I wouldn't go.
Starting point is 00:12:51 I wouldn't go only because then you can't go to other places in the Middle East. Like, I want to go to Lebanon. I don't think you can go to Lebanon if you've been to Israel. Oh, really? heard that. I don't know. That might not be true. It's probably true. But they would be less willing to let you in. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds believable to me.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Because isn't, BB, isn't he? War criminal, right, by the ICC? I was looking at the countries on that list. I was like, I don't know if it carries any weight. But I was like, they said if he stepped in certain countries, there was two countries that said, Poland.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Poland and New Zealand said if they step in their state, they arrest him on the spot. Yeah. Well, he should be. I mean, that's one of the greatest, like, hypocrisy. I mean, the whole world is just rife with these, like, insane hypocrisy. I mean, the obvious one is that we're fighting for democracy in Ukraine when he's, you know, canceled elections and imprisoned all of his enemy. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:13:42 That's absurd. But then the other one that's on top of that is the rules-based international order where it's like, we got to go to war. It's the rules-based international order. We've got to preserve this for everything we've got. And until the rules-based international order says Bibi Nanyahu's a war criminal, in which case, what's the name? Tom Cotton was literally like, we should invade this.
Starting point is 00:13:58 the Hague. I know. Let's invade the Hague because they're daring to, you know, criticize Israel. It's absurd. Yeah. It's been that way for a long time. Right. Like, well, Bibi, didn't he nominate Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize? Isn't that like, the irony in that is like insane? For bombing Iran. Yeah. For bombing Iran. A war criminal. I'm going to, I don't have the peace prize. Stim, law criminal, Clemson to the White House. To nominate you for a peace prize. When I read that headline,
Starting point is 00:14:33 I thought it said Trump nominates BB for a Nobel Peace Prize. And then I reread it and was like, either way. Either way, this is an absurd headline. It's like reading a caption from, what was it, the bumblebee? Yeah, Babylon Bee. The Babylon Bee.
Starting point is 00:14:47 The Bobblebee. Sorry, had a Biden moment. Yeah, but he is wanted for more times. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. Yeah. They said it's Poland and New Zealand said if he sets foot in that country, they would arrest him. I'm not sure if the other countries is a member of the ICC if they would really, you know, put handcuffs on him.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Hey, why does he even get a vote, though? Bibi, why should he get a vote on who gets a Nobel beach, right? That's obvious. He's a Jew. Don't look up the ethnicity of Nobel. Yeah. Oh, really? Oh, okay. Yeah, explains a lot.
Starting point is 00:15:26 It's crazy. You know how I just recently learned this out when we had, what's this name? Man, I'm having another Biden moment. Man, what's up with you? Well, you can cut this out and make me look smart. It's just like a Viking. What's his name? Guns.
Starting point is 00:15:42 He's fucking a lot of bitches. Dan Blat-Tern. Okay, cut all that out. Yeah, I'm bad with names. I'm horrible with names, right? And birthdays. Both of us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He pointed out the fact that I had no idea they said the slave trade was ran by Jews. I didn't know that. That was crazy. Yeah, to a large, to a large degree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, what is that statement means to you when they say Israel has a right to defend itself?
Starting point is 00:16:13 It's just another thing they say. I mean, a lot of things they say just don't mean anything. I mean, they're just, they're just words. They throw out there. Yeah, it's not defending itself, obviously. It's just a meaningless, catch. phrase is all that is. Like a lot of that stuff is. Do you believe Iran was close to a nuclear weapon? I think as far as I can understand it, I mean, it's one of these things where it's like, God, who knows who to believe? Everybody's lying. They're all saying different things one after another. I mean, the same person is saying different things like Tulsi Gabbard. So as far as I understand it, they had enough material that if they wanted, they could have started making a bomb pretty quickly. Okay. If they were able to build this bomb, do you think they're going to nuke Israel with it? I doubt it. I seriously doubt it. I mean, they've got hypersonic missiles and they're not,
Starting point is 00:17:00 you know, using one Israel. Right. They're using all that cheap stuff. Iran, by the way, is also outpacing Iraq in the development of ballistic missile systems that they hope will reach the eastern seaboard of the United States within 15 years. By next spring at most, by next summer, right? Current enrichment rates, they will have finished the medium enrichment, cartoon bomb. And move on to the final stage. Classic. From there, it's only a few months,
Starting point is 00:17:29 possibly a few weeks. 2012. Before they get enough enriched uranium for the first bomb. The foremost sponsor of global terrorism could be weeks away
Starting point is 00:17:40 from having enough enriched uranium for an entire arsenal of nuclear weapons that would place a militant Islamic terror regime weeks away
Starting point is 00:17:51 from having the Fissal material for an entire arsenal of nuclear bombs. If not stopped, Iran could produce a nuclear weapon in a very short time. It could be a year. It could be within a few months, less than a year. That was the one from like a month ago. So let me get this straight.
Starting point is 00:18:12 They started bombing them. I'm sure they was aware that their weapons will be ineffective when it was bombing them. Pretty much it was coaxing us in to get involved at that point. But do you, do they, what I'm trying to say is they actually think if they get a nuclear weapon, they would bomb and it would be another Holocaust. Right. Well, that's what they say. It's like arresting you because you was looking at this girl and I think you're going to rape her. So I think she has a right to defend herself.
Starting point is 00:18:46 So she's pressing charge. That's basically. Even if you're a convicted rapist many times over. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, no, it's completely insane. I mean, it's also just part of a much larger thing, but it is truly bizarre. And this is where I think everybody is kind of out to see on all this.
Starting point is 00:19:08 The fact that, okay, so a few months ago, probably a year ago or so, I'm sort of lost in the timeline. But there was, you know, I think it was when Israel killed either some of Iranian, some of Iranian generals in Damascus, or they bombed, a Syrian place. in Iran, whatever. There was some sort of like a necessary backlash that Iran had to do just to keep the bounce of power in place. And so they launched some missiles and all the missiles were shot down and then Seymour Hirsch later wrote an article saying, yeah, this was all choreographed. They said, hey, here's who we're going to shoot missiles, here's where you shoot them down, because they wanted for domestic consumption, them to say, look, we shot all these missiles, we slapped them in the face, you don't mess with us while trying really careful, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:46 to be really careful and not let it escalate at all. Which is like that makes more sense to me where you've got this sort of set up. up fake behind the scenes, you shoot here and I'll shoot here, we'll make it look like a thing, and then it gets leaked. But now they're just saying it. Now Trump just comes out and it's like, oh yeah, they shot missiles at us, but they told us beforehand and we shot him down. And it's like, then why even do it? Why are you doing this weird charade of war and then explaining that actually this is all fake and it's just a big game where puppet show we're playing for all of you? It's truly bizarre how things are unfolding these days.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Yeah. Well, if that's true, I'm thinking the uranium they had, they moved it. stuff before they actually bombed. It would have had plenty of time to, yeah. Yeah. I mean, you think tunnel under mountains, I mean, the whole thing is absurd and ridiculous. And it has everything as far as I'm concerned to do with Israel's expansionist aims, trying to eliminate their rival, and really about trying to make their gamble over the last year and a half worth it.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I mean, they've spent the last year and a half obliterating their own reputation overseas and, like, really putting their existence, like, at risk because so many people in America, are sick of Israel now, and if they lose support of America, and that's it for them. They won't survive any longer if they don't have endless support from Israel. So they've done all this. They've committed, in my opinion, they've committed genocide in Gaza, bombed all these other countries.
Starting point is 00:21:08 If all of that leads to Iran being taken down, then it will be worth it for them because they'll have taken out their regional rival and the only real threat to them. If they do all of that and still don't get Iran, they've made a giant gamble and lost, and it's going to be very difficult for them. maybe not next year, but in 10 years, they've really planted the seeds of their own destruction.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Right, right. Yeah, because the left, they've totally figured them out. Well, the voters. Yeah. The politicians still in their pocket, though, I think. Yeah. And that's one of the most annoying things about the Israeli discussion is suddenly I'm on the side of like, these idiots, these communist, so these absolute morons.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she's right about this. I mean, what am I supposed to say? Right, right. Damn it. but, you know, Ilhan Omar, you're my girl. In this alone, in this alone. But it's because they have a very, like, simplistic, like, white people are the oppressors,
Starting point is 00:22:04 brown people are the oppressed. Yeah, right for all the wrong reasons. Exactly. Yes, yes. They're right about Israel for the same reason they're wrong about everything else. Right, right. Because they see it as Jews being, like, super white people. They're not even white, huh?
Starting point is 00:22:18 Well, it depends on who you ask or what day of the week it is, I think. Yeah, like my wife, she did a DNA. She's a fartic Jew. Oh, yeah? Yeah, then. Not much. That's not much. You know, she's not.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Six percent of the time. She walked like, we had this house built, and I can't pick anything for the damn house. She gets to decide what couch, pictures, everything. Yeah, that's not a Jewish thing. That's a woman thing. No, she's Jewish. But, yeah, I find it so hard to believe that people can't see for what's going on. And guys are like, when you look at the...
Starting point is 00:23:01 Well, because... That is a genocide. Yeah, well, because what Numbnut said, what's his name? The Texas Senator. Cruz. Oh, God's chosen people. That's because a lot of evangelicals, they'll just give Israel the benefit of the doubt because they're God's chosen people. They looked all the way.
Starting point is 00:23:18 That's crazy. Growing up in Sunday school, I was taught from the Bible. those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse Israel will be cursed and from my perspective I want to be on the blessing side of thing those who bless the government of Israel those who bless Israel is what it says it doesn't say the government of it says the nation of Israel so that's in the Bible as a Christian I believe that where is that I can find it to you I don't have the the scripture off the tip of mine you pull out the phone and use it's in Genesis but so you're quoting a Bible phrase you don't have context for it and you don't know where in the Bible
Starting point is 00:23:51 it is, but that's like your theology? I'm confused. What does that even mean? Tucker. I'm a Christian. I want to know what you're talking about. Hey, where does my support for Israel come from? Number one, because biblically we're commanded to support Israel. But number two, commanding. No, we're not commanded. Hold on. You're a senator, and now you're throwing out theology, and I am a Christian, and I am allowed to weigh in on this. We are commanded as Christians to support the government of Israel. We are commanded to support Israel. And we're told, we're told those who bless Israel will be blessed. But what, hold on, define Israel. This is important. Are you kidding? This is majority Christian country. Define Israel? Do you not know what Israel is?
Starting point is 00:24:29 That would be the country you've asked like 49 questions about. So that's what Genesis, that's what God is talking about? The nation of Israel, yes. And he's, so does that the current borders, the current leadership? He's talking about the political entity called Israel? He's talking about the nation of Israel. He's talking about the nation of Israel. He's discussing a nation. A nation was the people of Israel. Is the nation that God's referring to in Genesis? Is that the same as the country run by Benjamin Netanyahu right now? Yes. Yes. It is. And by the way, it's not run by Benjamin Netanyahu as a dictator. It's a democratic country that elected. But just like, you know, America is the country
Starting point is 00:25:04 run by Donald Trump. No, actually, the American people elected Donald Trump. The same principle is this is silly. I'm talking about the political entity of modern Israel. Yes. And that is. You believe that's what God was talking about is Genesis. I do. But that country's existed since when? For thousands of years. Now, there was a time when it didn't. exists and then it was recreated just over 70 years ago. I'm saying I think most people understand that line in Genesis to refer to the Jewish people, God's chosen people. That's not what it says. Okay, Israel, but you don't even know where in the Bible it is. That's crazy. That's in the Bible, but it happened over 3,400 years ago. Those people don't even follow Christianity now.
Starting point is 00:25:49 No, it's the whole thing's absurd. And I mean, it really, to me, everything is really simple when you just think of Israel like any other country. It just, it becomes absurd how much control they have over our government. All of that is just obfuscated and confused and befuddled when you conflate Israel with Jewish people. Because like, I guess I would say, you know, if a nuke went off in Israel and completely wiped out the entire government structure, if the nation of Israel ceased to exist and it all just became Palestine, was run by Hamas, would the Jewish people stop to exist? Obviously not. so the Jewish people are Israel. Like, there's this, this, you know, lack of definition when you're talking about this stuff
Starting point is 00:26:25 that just makes it impossible to talk about. Yeah. It's really all very simple. He's approaching like we're fulfilling God's prophecy. Well, that's definitely part of it. And I think there's a lot of Christian, like, self-importance that goes into that. Because you got to think you're really important if you're the generation that's, you know, Jesus comes back. I mean, humans have thought this a thousand times, you have a thousand years.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I mean, there were like big movements in the year 1,000, in the year 1600. And like where people thought this is the end of the world, they thought for sure, look at all these signs from revelations, they all match perfectly up with what's going on in Western Germany at that time. This must be it. It's like, no, you're just self-important. You're just, and so then these things that you would never be in favor of normally, like watching babies be slaughtered, you're willing to go along with because you're like, this is different. This isn't normal.
Starting point is 00:27:11 This is, we're so special that, you know, this is the end times. This is the apocalypse. This is something that we can't be worried about these little things like children dying. We're the generation that's going to usher in. Which is so hypocritical for people on the right because we're supposed to be pro-right. And the majority of it's not, yeah, pro-life and we're supposed to be anti-war, but you see these kids and children, women and grandmothers and grandfathers have been slaughtered and homes being destroyed. And it looks like it looks apocalyptic when you look at the video footage.
Starting point is 00:27:40 And they still say that's God's chosen people. Yeah. No, it's totally schizophrenic. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense. I mean, you're talking about, you're talking about Unable to think for themselves. Senators, American senators and their foreign policy being dictated by something that some lady told them in, you know, 1972 or whenever he was in when he was a five-year-old in elementary school and, you know, was told this at church. And yeah, yeah, it's huge. Yeah. Yeah. Now this is our new giveaway. Yeah, King Rens, 250, 6.7 liter power strong.
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Starting point is 00:29:14 Well, they ask him, if when elected, what was the first thing you would do? And the things they said was so stupid. It's considered significant. Where would you go first? Left right? Ms. Adams. First visit.
Starting point is 00:29:30 I would visit the Holy Land. Okay. Ms. Lander. Mr. Lander, sorry. Boy, what Trump is doing to Canada, there's a lot of opportunities for us to partner better with them. Ms. Ramos. I'd love to meet Claudia Scheimbaum,
Starting point is 00:29:45 but I'd probably head to Colombo. to my parents' homeland. Two honest answers. I am a proud son of two Caribbean immigrants. I represent a robust Caribbean constituency. I'd like to go to the Caribbean as my first visit. Mr. Cuomo? Given the hostility and the anti-Semitism that has been shown in New York, I would go to Israel.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Nobody cares about the constituents. How was Andrew Cuomo still allowed to run for office? I know. All he did was kill 10,000. elderly people with COVID, get over it, dude. The real reason he would not be allowed is because he got too Italian with some of his interns. Right. That's the real sin. Too Italian? Not too Italian. Got a little overly Italian with them. Mr. Tilsen, where would you go? Yeah, I'd make my fourth trip to Israel, followed by my fifth trip to Ukraine, two of our greatest allies fighting on the
Starting point is 00:30:41 front lines of a global war on town. Mr. Mungan. I would stay in New York City. My plans are to address New Yorkers across the five boroughs and focus on that. Mr. Mamdani, can I just jump in? The Muslim got it right. That's the craziest part to me. As mayor? I will be doing, as the mayor, I'll be standing up for Jewish New Yorkers and I'll be meeting them wherever they are across the five boroughs, whether that's in their synagogues
Starting point is 00:31:07 and temples or at their homes or at the subway platform. In their tunnels? And just yes or no, do you believe in a Jewish state of Israel? I believe Israel has the right to exist. as a Jewish state as a state with equal rights he won't say it has a right to exist a new york mayor he won't yeah yeah with their own talking point like that's supposed to end the conversation you're supposed to say israel has a right to defend itself or whatever he said and then discussion over he's like what is he's got to keep attacking
Starting point is 00:31:43 he's muslim I believe every state should be a state of equal rights. Okay, thank you. Mr. Blake, where would you go on your first foreign visit as mayor of New York? My full name is Michael Alexander Blake. I'm named after Michael Manley, Alexander. Who cares? So, of course, I go to Jamaica to mach up the police. Yeah, you're not getting out of it.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Mr. Stringer? That answer was worse. They have served to herons. I'll go with you. It would be a great trip. It would be a great term. Jamaica has a right to exist. My goal would be to take my first trip to Israel.
Starting point is 00:32:17 My wife's life work in this area means a lot to our family. And it could coincide. Really? This guy wants to go to Israel? My wife's life work. She's a weapon manufacturer. Oh, man. Yeah, no, it's absurd. And this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Everybody's like, and honestly, the Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot. And this is kind of what makes me the most mad about it is like, yeah, we're going to be stuck with, like, some. Muslim socialist dude that is literally like we're going to usher in communism. We're going to seize the means of production as if they're a big factory floors in New York. So he's going to seize all the Excel spreadsheets means of production.
Starting point is 00:32:57 You think he's got a chance to win? Apparently. I mean, he's the Democrat nominee. And he's probably the one now. The current mayor is running as an independent. Yeah. It depends on who gets the funding from APEC. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:33:13 Yeah, it'll probably be Mamdani. It'll probably be Mamdani. But that's the, it's like, okay, you're literally surrendering our country to like the communist and the socialists. Who are the ones actually standing up for this? And it's the same thing that happens with economics where young kids are like, I'll never be able to afford a house. And the conservatives are just like, well, shut up, shut up. You know, like, well, deal with it. Sucker. As they take their footstraps. Yeah, and the socialists are over there going, we feel you. You know what it is. It's those capitalists. We're going to go get them. And you're going to get their stuff. So it's like, yeah, they're lying. And it's, they're lying. And it's, they're going to get their stuff. So it's. So it's like, yeah, they're lying. And it's. And it's. They're full of crap and socialism is evil, but they're the only ones that are showing concern for this or standing up against Israel or doing this stuff that we should be doing as Americans. You should not be a subject to Israel and you should not be brushing off the economic devastation that, like, the younger generations are living with. Do you see in the near future, not in the near future, but do you see a possibility in the future that we will make Israel a foreign entity and they can't meddle in our elections? because they are a foreign nation. How do you get to that? I mean, it could happen if... So it's not necessarily about the money, right?
Starting point is 00:34:21 A lot of people point to Apex money. They give a lot of money out, and that's certainly a good marker for, like, who they're supporting and who they're not. But the importance of APEC, there are other PACs that give more money than APEC. The important thing about A PAC
Starting point is 00:34:31 is the connections and the positive press you get and the way that you're told where to vote and told what type of press you'll get if you vote which way. So, you know, when Thomas Massey talks about having an APAC handler, that's more important than the money, right? Is having the person that goes there that goes, hey, here's what, you know, we want you to do and here's how you're going to vote. And when you do that, I'm going to get you on this show and this show and this show and you know, and you're going to get really positive press for that. And we think it's going to be really good for you.
Starting point is 00:34:56 So it's about the connections and the, you know, influence that AIPAC has up and over and beyond the money. Yeah, well, after a majority of people to get elected into Congress and being a president, you've got to have that. you got to have that buddy system with the APAC. There's no other way around it. If you don't have a good relationship with APAC, you don't get elected in this country. Yeah. Generally, that's how it works. Thomas Massey's been able to weather the storm.
Starting point is 00:35:23 But yeah, I think forcing them to register as foreign agents under FARA, like they should, and they don't. And that would seriously hamper their ability to influence America. Yeah, like bringing up Thomas Massey, do you think it was fair for MAGA to turn on him? No. I mean, no and yes. I think we're turning into a cult. Yeah. Well, you know, I think a lot of what's going on, especially with Epstein and with Israel, really proves that MAGA is not a cult. I mean, half of MAFACA is furious at what Trump's doing and feels completely betrayed. I think rightfully so. There are segments that are very cultish.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Yeah, there are segments here. With Thomas Massey, I mean, I just get frustrated because it's like we have Congress, we have Senate, we have the presidency, we have gone through hell to achieve. this. And then it's like, oh, but the budget, we got to worry about the budget. And it's like, no, our grandchildren aren't going to have an America for there to be a debt for. Right. It's, so they're like, oh, we're passing on this debt to our children. It's like, we have existential issues to be solving. And if you're talking about, you know, cutting border security or money for deportations, you don't, I don't think you have your head in your game. I don't think the budget is
Starting point is 00:36:33 nearly as important as. And it would be different for me if, if the libertarian guys like Grand Paul and Thomas Massey were standing up for like principles. If they were like, hey, the big beautiful bill eliminates the Fifth Amendment or something, you know, and they're like, I cannot pass this because it violates a fundamental human right or, you know, something that we've been given from God. That I would be more okay with. I've been getting frustrated with the libertarians, though, talking about the budget among all things. It's like, really, you're going to freak out over going from 33 to 36.
Starting point is 00:37:01 It's like, is this really worth the hell that you're dying on, really? Yeah, it looks like he lost a lot of credibility when he attacked Trump for, like, I don't agree with him dropping those bombs on Iran, but he came out and said he don't have the authority or power to do that. I was like, well, he does. Well, he doesn't have the ability to declare war. I mean, it's all. If the operations last long on, what, 60 days or something like that? Yeah, there's these technical limitations to it. But we've been, I mean, I'm pretty sure World War II was the last war that Congress actually declared.
Starting point is 00:37:32 I mean, I think ever since then, it's been special military operations. and the war on terror authorization of use of force. So, yeah, I mean, that's... Thomas Massey's right in that regard, but war has become so sort of diluted and external that, you know, it's easier for them to get away with bombing campaigns and not calling it a war. What do you think about Elon Musk third party?
Starting point is 00:37:57 It's a terrible idea. Like, soon as he picked a... Mark Cuban, us, like, you already shocked yourself before. And you picked Scrab Muti. He's never... He's a never-trumper. Scary mooch. He just lost all credibility.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Those two fools. Scary mooch. Well, his name is. How he says his name? Scarabucci? Yeah. That's his name, Scarabucci. Scary-Mucci.
Starting point is 00:38:16 The mooch. The mooch, yeah. Yeah, he's a total never-trumper, man. Yeah. No, I think it's so stupid. And it's just such a, it's just, it's been a very disappointing six months, I have to say. I mean, starting Trump's, I mean, we, first of all, Trump has done some pretty amazing things. Not to undercut everything Trump's done.
Starting point is 00:38:33 He has shut the border. That's incredible. Deportations are having effects. Absolutely great. The fact that he pardoned the January 6ers, that alone, I will never regret my vote for Trump ever in my life. We should be really thankful for that. But the last six months has been like we started off with like, we have our own George Soros and Elon Musk. We have the House and the Congress. It's like we're going to get this done. And like ever since then, it's like Elon Musk is split. There's a split in the MAGA. We're starting wars with Iran. It's just like how did it go so off the rails so thoroughly? So I think it was Trump. I mean, apparently so. Although, I don't know, man. It really is impossible to tell. It's Pam Bondi's fault, guys. It's all right. You know, let's blame the woman.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Fucking Bondi. Trump has nothing to do with this. We were joking about that before the show. Bodies fucking up everything. She's the one running things. Trump, Trump is going, Pam, I just want the Epstein files out. And she's going, it's not happening, Trump.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I'm not doing it. But Pam, please. Right. Not ridiculous. That's right. But remember, he wanted Matt Gates. He wanted Matt Gates to be, but he wasn't. And of course, he wasn't because of literally an Israeli black male sex extortion scheme, which is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I've been coming across him on Twitter. That dude is a truth teller in my opinion. He doesn't hold back anything. Yeah. He thinks. He says what he feels. He doesn't care who are your fans. I mean, he literally got targeted with an Epstein-style sting.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Like, they tried to extort him for $20 million and frame him. And that's why he stepped down. That was all a Jewish operation? Yeah. Yeah, no. It was about a Jewish spy that was in Iran, and they were saying we were going to mount this mission to save this spy, and we need $20 million financing.
Starting point is 00:40:13 And they did it like a couple times, like a couple people got targeted with this scheme. Yeah, Joel Goldberg, Greenberg, I think. Greenberg. Joel Greenberg, I think was the guy's name. But yeah, that was why Matt Gates was off the list. And he's a sharp guy, too. Yeah, he would have been great. He would certainly not allowed all this nonsense going, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Yeah. That's a shame. Yeah, damn Jews again. I mean, it is like an infinitely recursive thing where it's like, okay, we're not getting the files for the Epstein thing because the other nominee for AG was targeted by an Epstein sting. It's like, where does it end? It's like a feedback loop. I know. Yeah, we're really screwed.
Starting point is 00:40:52 But no, I think I think things like going after APEC and just being like, that's a tangible goal. Just go, APEC should have to register under file. I don't believe elected officials should have dual citizenship. That's, yes. That's insane. That's insane. I also don't think immigrants should be able to hold office. I don't need it.
Starting point is 00:41:12 No, no, no. You come here, you become a naturalized citizen. That's cool and all, but you can't be able to. Yeah, your kid, can. If he's born here and you're a citizen when he's born, like, yeah, great, he can run for office. But no, it's absurd that we have a country where people come over and eight years later, they're in charge. And, like, it's telling us how we're wrong. It's like, why do we allow this?
Starting point is 00:41:31 That's insane. And we do, I mean, it is deliberate. If you think about like Minnesota, Ilhan Omar. There's a little Somali out there. That was Obama just giving them a Congress seat going, here's a congressional district. I'm going to fill it up with Somalis. They're going to vote for the own people, reps in their own interests. And here is a congressional seat, Somalia.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Yeah, it's wild. We did a comedy show up there. We went to the mall. It was nothing but people, women just covered in curtains. You can be crazy. It was wild. It looks worse than Iran. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:59 No joke. Parts of, parts of like Michigan and Minnesota look more Islamic and more repressive and more. more like anti-woman than Iran does. You see videos of Iran. It's women walking around. I mean, they maybe have like a little scarf on or something. But like, it's not the women with just, just the eyes. Yeah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:13 All you see is eyes. That's wild. That's insane. You just see some eyes. And it's only because they have to let them have their eyes out. If they could cover their eyes, they would. It's just you can't because they got to see. What do you call it?
Starting point is 00:42:27 It's just everything's black. You can't see nothing. It's a burqa. Burker? Is that a burker? I think so. Bucker. Burka or her job, they're different.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Yeah, Berka or jab. Well, there's a, there's a religious precedent to do that to women. Read it. Look, Eve started, that's why Eve was like the first story in the Bible. Women fuck up anything. And it's wild that that is the first book of the Bible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Adam was lonely and he wanted a friend, and guess what?
Starting point is 00:42:59 He got a friend all right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, she ruined everything. God came and credit all this in seven days and a bitch fucking all up. Adams out there just naming the animals. Yeah, swimming. A tree of life, no thanks. I'm fine.
Starting point is 00:43:17 That's crazy. I was reading the Bible, man. That's Minnesota. What is that flag they waving? Well, that's a Somali flag, but is it also the Minnesota flag now? I mean, didn't they, didn't they redesign the Minnesota flag that looks exactly like that? Oh, my guy, go why? Jacob Frye, Yaru!
Starting point is 00:43:48 Wait a minute. You're Americans, right? Why are waving a Somali flag? It's some... Mofiatai! Satay! That's nuts. Hey, go to Dennis Prager's Facebook page.
Starting point is 00:44:03 He put up this meme, right? It was on the Fourth of July. Right? You know, you know Dennis Prigger. Yeah. Yeah. like the guy. I was on his radio show, I think a couple of times, but
Starting point is 00:44:14 he did this meme where he's a guy of four fathers right there, and they're looking out in the crowd and you see a Palestinian flag. You see all these other flags. And they said in the mean, I didn't envision this. And then
Starting point is 00:44:29 Dennis Prager intentionally left out the Jewish flag. Right, right. The Israel flag. Yeah, the Israel flag. So I left the comment. I said, you intensely left out Israel flag? Yeah, yeah. Why?
Starting point is 00:44:43 It's a great question. Yeah. He didn't yet. There it is. There it is. You see the Britain flag? You see Mexico flag? You see Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:44:52 It's those damn British. Yeah. That's who's warming us. Is that the Somali flag right there? That is, yeah. And there's Mexico's flag. Yeah. And they have Ukraine, so that's interesting, but they don't have Israel.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Yeah. There's one flag missing. I wonder which one is. Yeah. Did anybody respond to us? I'm very curious. It's got 51 replies. He didn't respond, did he?
Starting point is 00:45:17 He intentionally did that. The hardtons. Are you trying to externalize your anti-Semitism? Oh, my God. I'm not anti-Semitic. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. Yeah, you're already in a course of people, a lot of politicians, they have the Jewish flag and American flag.
Starting point is 00:45:34 No, you're supposed to just represent America. Yeah. Or the, you know, the talking heads, people on the right that, you know, We'll call out identity politics all day, except for their identity, which is supreme. Look, good news says so true. Go back up, Joe, to our comment. Yeah, okay, just scroll down a little bit. Well, you got a hundred and thirty thumbs up, Kevin.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Go down. Write that a comment. It's right there. Go back up. The guy said, up more. You must have went down way too far. Keep going up, Joe. That right there, Axel Garcia.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Are you going to externalize your anti-Semitism? You're already notorious for going too far and making crude references to sexual acts and male anatomy. What? What did you get that from? I mean, you just called you gay. Yeah. What does that have to do, if anything, if I make crude jokes? Yeah, why can't you address what I mentioned?
Starting point is 00:46:33 My comment. Why you leave out the Jewish flag? Externalize your anti-Semitism. What does that even mean? Axel-Gymitic. anti-semitic. You know what? When you criticize a Muslim, right?
Starting point is 00:46:48 They're a Semitic group of people. Yeah. If that's anti-Semitic, you know, but for some odd reason... No, it's not. Jews took it. Yeah, yeah, they hijacked that term, and you only anti-Semitic when you criticize somebody of Jewish faith. You can criticize Muslims. They're Semitic people, but they never call you anti-Semitic.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Not anymore. Jews took it. They took it. take everything. Yeah. It just became like a vaguely scientific term to just, you know, mean criticizing Jewish people. But I mean, you know, it's just obviously absurd. Nobody gets mad when you criticize America. It's not bad to criticize Israel.
Starting point is 00:47:26 It's just, you know, it's just, it's just absurd. It's just somebody, I don't know, man. It's like, it's like our politics are like the worst like borderline personality disorder girlfriend that just like takes everything out of context and is like mad at you for noticing that she's lying to you like right yeah yeah it's just they're just insane yeah and you got clips of bonjino and patel oh yeah yeah they totally flipped on that uh epstein list it's got to be a list there has to be a there's no way in hell there's no list there's so many lists there's so many lists okay why is the FBI protecting the greatest
Starting point is 00:48:07 petterist um the the largest scale pederist in human history Simple because of who's on that list. You don't think that Bill Gates is lobbying Congress right and day to prevent the disclosure of that list? And why is it that the Senate, you know, and good for Senator Blackburn to try to get it out. But then Dick Turbin comes over the top and says, no, we're not going to release the names.
Starting point is 00:48:28 I don't care about the list itself, but it released the names, right? And I've said it. Dan Bongino said it. We've reviewed all the information and the American public is going to get as much as we can release. He killed himself. Do you think, let's play. out the logical conclusion of this. Do you think that myself, Bongino, and others, would
Starting point is 00:48:48 participate in hiding information about Epstein's gross activities? Or do you think we would also participate in not prosecuting people we had evidence to prosecute people on? Where's the videotape of an Epstein island of X, Y, and Z committing these frauds? Why haven't you given it to us? Do you really think I wouldn't give that to you if it existed? Yes. Yes. Yes. It does exist and you have not given it to us, yes. That's absolutely what's happening. You know, that's, that is a really, like, typical, I watch a lot of, this sounds weird. I watch a lot of interrogation videos.
Starting point is 00:49:22 You ever got, you guys ever watch interrogation videos? I actually got a certification through Wicklander Zulovsky. Oh, really? Oh, no way. Oh, that's super fun. No, I just, I love, like, the, you know, like the true crime stuff and you're watching. And they always do that, right, where it's like, did you kill them? Instead of just being like, no, I didn't, they go, you think I?
Starting point is 00:49:38 Do you think that's something I would be capable of? Ask anybody. I'm not capable of that. That's such a like particular tell. Right. Why would I do it like? Right. That's a very, uh, right. They've released a video.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Oh, that's Bonino. Good old Bonino. What causes dear to your heart? Causes dear to my Israel. What is number one? Sorry, what causes dear to your heart? That's so wild. Causes dear to my Israel.
Starting point is 00:50:11 the fence of Israel. Yeah. It was such an open-ended question. It was like, yeah. You know, it wasn't like what foreign palsy? It's just like,
Starting point is 00:50:23 what do you see when you close your eyes? He's just like, Israel. I see Israel. They never say America. No, there's like 10,000 things I would say before Israel. Like my kids,
Starting point is 00:50:36 like my God. I wouldn't say Israel in my death ban. Right? No, it's what? It's like, okay, so you got Dan Bonino saying that. You got Ted Cruz saying the whole reason he became a senator was to serve Israel, which is particularly, he's a Cuban guy from Canada who's in American government for Israel. And it's like, okay, America first, got it.
Starting point is 00:50:55 But then you've got like, you know, Chuck Schumer said the same thing. He'll give speeches where he says, you know, my name needs defender of Israel. And that's what I am. That's what I'm here for. So, and then you get called the Anesmedic for noticing this. I mean, it's absurd. It's ridiculous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:07 It's overwhelming at this point. I think it just shows how powerful APEC is, really. and they influence on our government. Yeah. Well, and I mean, it's the deep state info. I mean, the deep state is still very real, still very much active. And that's my read of this situation. It strikes me just like, I was like talking to Joe about this yesterday,
Starting point is 00:51:25 the, when you have a sports player or something, sort, a hockey player who's being interviewed and said, why didn't you wear your rainbow? He said, ah, it's against my religion. I'm just not for it. And he might even be combative, right? He might even be a little like, no, this is my faith and I'm standing for it. And then the next day he's out there going,
Starting point is 00:51:40 I'd like to apologize sincerely for my words. I didn't realize that it hurt. And so it's the same thing that's happening here. And so how do they do that, right? It literally seems like magic, where these people have these strong views. They go into a room for 10 minutes and they come out, just like literally being like,
Starting point is 00:51:54 I'm not a Christian anymore. I'm so sorry for ever doing that. But it's because they get pressured with, it's not just them. It's, hey, look, this whole team, you know, all of your best friends, they're all going to suffer from this. And, you know, their advertisers are going to pull their money.
Starting point is 00:52:08 And then your family's going to be in trouble. and think about all the people that depend on you. I mean, because these, you know, these guys generate millions of dollars and, you know, are key, you know, people on a team that, you know, they're being depended on. So it's like, is this, is it really worth, you know, I get it. You want to stand on your soapbox and say your thing like that. I understand that. It's good that you want to do that.
Starting point is 00:52:26 But is it really worth putting all of your friends' jobs at risk right now. And then for Cash and Dan, on top of that is, is it really worth starting World War III over this? Is it really worth the firestorm that would come about from this when all of these industrial list are taken down, all these bankers are taken down, and America collapses, is it really worth causing, we've run the numbers, it's going to be at least 10 million dead if this list gets released. I mean, I'm sure that's the type of stuff they're being presented with, and they're being told, okay, so you need to go out and put out the fire for us.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Yeah. I mean, I just, you know, they're, I just think they're outclassed. I honestly just think Cash and Dan just, they don't have the institutional wherewithal to deal with these guys coming in with the black binders. and laying out these scenarios. Because I mean, what are you gonna, are you really gonna take that risk? Are you really gonna gamble like the fate of America
Starting point is 00:53:17 when you've got the guy sitting across you who seems very legitimate and he's the guy that knows and he's telling you very seriously, hey, bombs start flying if this list gets released or whatever it is. I think that's how it happens. Not to like, you know, say like, it's so it's fine that they do that.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Like, you know, Alex actually said, he had a quote today where it was just like, I say, you know, let justice rain, let the heavens may fall, You know, whatever it is. Just like, no, we need justice. We need to know who these people are. We need to not be controlled by these people, which is what's happening right now.
Starting point is 00:53:46 So I say release the list, but I can understand the incredible pressure that they're being put under the people with access to this information. Yeah. The people that's on that list, I'm thinking the majority of them are elected officials. Influenced for people. Powerful people. Yeah, CEOs, very powerful people. And I'm thinking the major reason why this whole operation with Epstein was going down is because, Israel is using that to manipulate these people to do what they want.
Starting point is 00:54:12 That's what I said. That's what Gates said. There are a couple different aspects to it. And I mean, obviously Epstein was not... Well, Gates didn't say he didn't mention this, but he said it's a foreign government. He didn't say which foreign government was. Well, and Dan Vonjino said a Middle East government. I wonder which one.
Starting point is 00:54:31 It's right there in the middle. He's like, I never thought about that. What do you mean you never thought about that? But, I mean, there was, I think it was in like October of 23 or something. There was a big bust of a brothel just outside Washington, D.C., where they'd collected all of the documents for all of the Johns that went there. And they, you know, the DOJ came out and said, we have the list of everybody who went there, their names. And it was all higher up people.
Starting point is 00:54:54 And the list just goes away. So, I mean, I think there's lots of these kind of honeypot operations where they're filming the people, where they're, you know, honeypotting the people. There's a lot of them. I think Epstein's primary focus was politics in part. but also the science and technology aspect of it. I think there's a reason Bill Gates was one of the main visitors to the island. And that was Epstein's whole cover was,
Starting point is 00:55:17 I'm really into science. I love funding science things. So he was, I think part of it was acquiring technological secrets as well as controlling those emergent technologies by using your money to get in with the people on sort of the forefront of technological innovation. Yeah, they just asked Krupp about the whole Epstein thing.
Starting point is 00:55:36 He got mad. Did you see that? Yeah. He got, like, upset. You got, like, really mad. Yeah. That was weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:41 That was super weird. Yeah, it didn't make any sense. Yeah. No, that was a bad move. I don't know. I don't know why. Just answer the questions. He flubed out of that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:51 And that question was explicitly about him being a... One of the biggest ones is an agent. Whether he ever worked for a American or foreign intelligence agency, the former Labor Secretary who was Miami U.S. attorney, Alex Costa, he, allegedly said that he did work for intelligence agency. So could you resolve whether or not he did? And also, could you say why there was a minute missing
Starting point is 00:56:14 from the jailhouse tape on the day of the Senate? Yeah, sure. If I go. Can I just enter up a little second? Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things.
Starting point is 00:56:31 And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable. Do you want to waste the time and do you feel like answer? I don't mind answering. I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this. Look at Marco Mubio. He's always caught in the middle of the movie. He's like, I'm not getting involved in this year.
Starting point is 00:56:56 That is a thousand-yard stare if I've ever seen one. Oh, my God. What happened in Texas? It just seems like a desecration. But you go ahead. Sure. First, to back up on that. In February, I did an interview on Fox, and it's been getting a lot of attention
Starting point is 00:57:15 because I said, I was asked a question about the client list. And my response was, it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning the file along with the JFK, MLK, files as well. That's what I meant by that. You said client list. Also to the tens of thousands of video, they turned out to be. child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein child porn is what they were never going to be released never going to see the lighted day to him being an
Starting point is 00:57:47 agent I have no knowledge about that we can get back to you on that and the minute missing from the video we released the video showing definitively the video was not conclusive but the evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide and what was on that there was a minute that was off the counter and what we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year every night they redo that video is old from like 1999 so every night the video is reset and every night should have the same minute missing so we're looking for that video to release that it's so crazy that just doesn't make any sense it's so crazy it's one
Starting point is 00:58:33 hell of a coincidence the minute that is missing It's when he dies. Yeah, what are you all? I used to work at Target. There's security systems, like security loss prevention and stuff like that. You can scan in, you can see a hair on the floor, and it never misses a second. It's digitally download. The quality is amazing.
Starting point is 00:58:52 And that was, what, 20 years ago? Yeah. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous. There's, like, official on the record statements from Acosta and others that, like, he was protected by intelligence. I mean, it just goes, it goes on and on. His first deal was a total sweetheart deal. Pam Bondi was involved in his second, you know, arrest. The man supposedly killed himself, which it's like, okay, if there was no evidence and there were no client, why did he kill himself?
Starting point is 00:59:17 That doesn't make any sense. I don't even think he's dead. Like, at this point, I think he's dead. No, I think he's on a fucking beach in Tel Avivin, sipping a mojito with his 12-year-old girlfriend. I think he's a new face. I think he's a woman now. He's a lady now, yeah. No, it's, I mean.
Starting point is 00:59:34 His father-in-law is. is the godfather of the masad yeah uh robert maxwell the super the super spy so how do we like how's even a question if he's a mousad agent or not when he's literally married to the daughter of the massad godfather yeah yeah it's just the coincidence it's all it's all completely absurd yeah i mean what you know what are you know what are you supposed to have you seen the video i haven't had a chance to look at the video have you seen the video they released yet of the of the of the proven that he killed himself. That's different than the other picture they released before.
Starting point is 01:00:09 But also, like, I mean, there have been, this is what AI should be used for. Just the timeline of, like, the stories about this. They show this video, but the door is, it's completely different than the door they showed. It's got this time jump. God only knows where this video's from. First, they said the cameras were broken. Then they said there was video, but it accidentally was deleted. They say both of the guards fell asleep.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Right. It looked like time where's the guard at. Is there ready to start sleeping? No, I think the guards were, they're supposed to be watching the videos, supposedly. Is that the video in its entirety to prove that he killed himself? Because that looked like a time lapse video. That video technology is so outdated. I mean, it just makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Like, what does that even prove? It's a video of some door somewhere. Who is he supposed to say that's the... What the hell does that prove? Literally nothing. And then that's images of the outside of the cell, included in the piece one photo shows the door of a cell marked off with police tape so that is a completely different door than the one right yeah yeah okay oh is that uh Hillary
Starting point is 01:01:16 that's a bad bitch right now she gonna choke the shit out of it I know she wore her blue scenes yeah that's great that's crazy I don't believe any of that Hey, is Ben Shapiro? Is he beefing with Alex? Yeah, yeah. He's a Mossad operative. I mean, every question you'll ask me. It's like, uh, guys.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Let's see, what is Ben Shapiro's beef with Alex Jones? It's, uh, it's the, yeah, Alex is the real deal and Ben is not. That's, that's where the beef comes from. That's where it stems from. I mean, he is very, it's frustrating because he is very deliberately taking things out of context when he comes to Alex. Like one thing. people keep like they'll always bring up is during his custody battle like a decade ago Alex's lawyer made the case that he was playing a character and so people say see nothing
Starting point is 01:02:14 Alex says is real and it's like literally cannot be further from the truth Alex off camera is exactly the same as Alex on camera that was very specifically about Alex and I should probably shouldn't even tell him the story because I don't know the details totally but basically Alex's ex-wife was showing video or taking comments of Alex when he was like dressed up like the Joker or dressed up in like an alien mask going i'm gonna rape your women and and she was presenting that as if it was real and the lawyer was saying no he's playing a character at that moment he's putting on a show at that moment not that everything he believes is fake so anyway that's just a very long-standing slur of alex jones and so that's what ben shpiro was saying he was like if you're watching
Starting point is 01:02:53 a and just act like it's a w-dew e match that you're watching then that's fine but if you think it's real then you're stupid and it makes you stupider that's literally what he said so yeah so he's scared so there's scared and now they're bringing out the claws because they don't know what time it is they think they still have the ability to smear people like that alice has been proven the real deal over and over more than anybody else man he's been doing a long time he's actually um i found some old videos of him actually out front of the uh the incident happened in waco texas i said wow he's been doing this a long time yeah he was actually covering that story when it as it unfolded way back then when he was like the only one who yeah before there was no internet no nothing he was doing
Starting point is 01:03:35 Yeah, with local access on Haas television. Do you see the video of him confronting the FBI agent at Waco? There's a great video where he's going, you don't think we know, but the American people are no, and you're not going to get away with this. It's good, yeah. And I remember when the Waco TV show came out and was super popular, I was watching some old clips of the guy that wrote the book, Tibido,
Starting point is 01:03:54 the author of the book that the show was based on. And he's giving talks in like 1999 or whenever, and he's going, yeah, there's this local guy, Alex Jones, it's helping to rebuild the church and really getting the awareness out. Like Alex has been in it for literally decades, like three decades. Yeah, the FBI went and slaughtered all those people. Yeah, burned them to death. Just because they had guns in there.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Yeah, there's just a community. It was living their own lives. Nobody was in danger. No Second Amendment for you. Yeah, and he just went in and slaughtered those people. Yeah, it was after Ruby Ridge. It was a lot of, they thought it was going to be positive press coverage. But they backfired on them.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Yeah. Yeah, big time. And it grew Alex Jones, too. Yeah. And then Biden actually, for the kids. get the guy's name, but he actually hired him. Appointed the guy, yeah. Appointed the guy, FBI director, right?
Starting point is 01:04:38 Mm-hmm. I'm not sure what he was. I think it was ATF. ATF director? Yeah, yeah, yeah, ATF. That's nuts. That's crazy. Yeah. Who, like, had pictures standing on the smoldering rubble. Yeah. Like a trophy, Hunter.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Yeah. Yeah. Slate, man. Hey, Joe, you have a picture, not a picture, a video of what Ben Shapel thinks about Epstein? Oh, that should be interesting. He says, get over it. get over you guys don't worry about it it's fine we now have the answers and the problem is this
Starting point is 01:05:11 people who never hedged their bets people who never at any point suggested to you that they don't have data to back up the speculation that the speculation was in and of itself the conclusion that if you speculate without evidence that amounts to an actual conclusion to an investigation they're going to be very upset today because it turns out The DOJ and the FBI have concluded that Epstein didn't have a client list and died by suicide. According to a memo detailing the findings of time by accident. Now, again, does this put to bed? Like all inquiries?
Starting point is 01:05:40 Of course not. People can continue to speculate as much as they want. And I think there's still open questions here regarding how did Epstein make his money. That's a very serious open question. The speculation for a long time was he made his money from blackmail. But the DOJ and the FBI again run by people like Dan Bongino and Cash Patel and Pam Bondi are telling you. They are telling you. They're telling you people who are members of the Trump administration, people you elected and put into these positions to get you the truth on this matter are telling you that he didn't, in fact, he was not murdered.
Starting point is 01:06:09 He did not keep a clientless. And he did not blackmail powerful figures. That is the thing that they are saying, not I. They are saying this. Yeah, because they know, he knows. If they're willing to blow that over and say their line. This isn't me. Massad operative Ben Shapiro saying.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Don't believe me, believe them. I know you're not going to believe me. You present your evidence that they are in fact lying because I know Dan. I don't think that Dan Boggino is lying to me. I know Cash Patel a little bit. I don't think Cash Patel is lying to me. I don't think these people are lying to me. Which means that if somebody else continues to claim that they're lying,
Starting point is 01:06:48 they ought to provide their evidence at this point. And now is the point in which the facts on the ground have changed. And so either you ought to shift your opinion based on the facts that have now emerged. Those are not facts. That's on the ground. What is that even supposed to mean? Literally nothing. The talking points have fucking changed.
Starting point is 01:07:02 And they haven't even changed. That was always the official story. The official story was always that he killed himself. I mean, it genuinely doesn't make any sense if Gillane Maxwell was convicted and is in prison right now for trafficking children who did she traffic them to. Like, yeah, I mean, it's just, it's just absurd. It's just nonsense. But here's the thing. Here's the trick.
Starting point is 01:07:22 You know, Ben Shapiro was talking about where Jeffrey Epstein got his money and says that, you know, maybe through. blackmail. No, the money led to the blackmail, not the other way around. He was given a chunk of change. I mean, he was gifted the most expensive house in New York City, right? By Lex Wexner in the mega group. So he was given a chunk of change and told you are now established as a billionaire investor. That is your end to talk to and seduce these rich and, you know, wealthy people. Now, Ben Shapiro, on the other hand, is given a chunk of change and told you are going to go and seduce the white Christian conservatives into endless support of Israel and discredit all of our enemies while supposedly on their side. So these are how operations are run. One's a blackmail
Starting point is 01:08:07 operation with, you know, honey traps and the other is, you know, an operation to make you look like a very popular and successful podcaster so you can have an ability to sway the American people towards Israel. Damn. He's an operative. Yeah. There's a, They're two different operatives running two different schemes for the same country and the same purpose. Oh, man, Mark Levin, he didn't lost his mind. He'd been lost it. He was always been nuts. He was calling the Aetola and he was calling people Hitler and Nazis.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Well, might as well, right? You might as well. It makes you think, like, wow, why would you, that, like, discredit everything happened in World War II. Why would you go to that load to call them Nazis? Yeah. Well, it's what they have. It's why. What works?
Starting point is 01:09:03 It's why Mamdani is the only one who is not pro-Israel on the stage because the Holocaust is this incredibly powerful guilt hammer that they slam down, specifically on white people, white Europeans, to say, you know. Yeah. Christians. They invoke Hitler or invoke Holocaust, so you're not allowed to criticize Israel anymore. And you have Muslims who are not as indoctrinated into that. willing to just go no Israel is bad it's not actually that I'm not committing the
Starting point is 01:09:29 Holocaust by saying that yeah yeah yeah yeah I don't think they've they've labeled me as a holocaust denier yet you'll get there yeah you don't have to actually deny the Holocaust you don't actually have to do that for them to call you that so you'll get there don't worry about it's true I've been called everything else I'm like I'm sure that's the next this was the craziest thing I I went up to Seb Gorka Sebastian Gorka at CPAC oh really like 2020 I I think. And I'm just like, oh, Zabakurka, here, film. I'm going to go talk to him. And I go up. And I guess he thought I was trying to do some like, you know, ambush thing to him because he was like, no, you're awful. You should be kicked out. And he was like, you work for Info Wars. Alex Jones is friends with Nick Fuentes.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Nick Fuentes made a joke about the Holocaust that was written by his super chatter, right? So some guy super chat's a Holocaust joke. Nick Fuentes reads it. Alex Jones is associated with Nick Fuentes. I'm associated with Alex Jones. So I'm now a Holocaust scenario. That's four. or five degrees of separation from a joke hinting at the idea of Holocaust denial makes me a then tainted with that with that disease and I'm now a Holocaust Nile myself. He's crazy from that. He's a pack you guys too, Sebastian Gorgia. Oh, has he? I haven't noticed.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Well, I probably forgot. He's fucking irrelevant. Yeah, yeah, I probably forgot. He's a gay whale. She's a call him a gay whale. Bring a picture up for him. It works. Sebastian Gorgia.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Yeah. I don't know why. Alex started calling him a gay whale one time. Really? Oh, really? Yeah, he's a gay whale. Gorka the Orca. Oh, I get.
Starting point is 01:11:02 There he is. Sebastian, the gay whale gorka. Oh, that turd. He's a, that's what you call a sycophon for Trump. That's one thing I don't like, I don't like sycophon, zealots, because they destroy everything they touch. Well, and you know what's weird, you know, Levin was a never-trumper. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:22 But now Levin's on some national security. board. So it's like the people that have actually been there supporting Trump, I mean, during Alex's trial, the bankruptcy trial, they brought on experts to explain just how influential Alex was and getting Trump elected. And like the things they said, they were like, Alex and Info Wars did more to get Trump elected than like Rush Limbaugh and Stephen Crowder and the next five people combined by a factor of like four. Like, and these are people that literally, I mean, there are people that literally spend all day, every day, five days a week, just studying info wars and like trying to figure out how our information pilfer's through the internet.
Starting point is 01:11:55 And they were presented, you know, presented all that. I forgot where I was going with that. But, but it's all about, oh, yeah. Well, so, so, you know, Alex got Trump elected. I mean, he's never, he's not going to come on us on Info Wars anytime soon, right? Alex isn't about to be welcomed into the White House and some national security thing. So it's weird. It's like Trump is more favorable towards people who hated him and like argued against him and people who are like,
Starting point is 01:12:22 sickofants and just like kiss his feet but people like Alex or you know people like myself who just like genuinely did a lot to get Trump elected but aren't going to kiss his ass like we just get nothing yeah right right right like you you guys never be at Moralago no one of that parties or anything no and I'm you know I'm sure Alex has been invited or whatever and it's not that we'd want to go to that anyway really necessarily but right but it's like it's like who is paid more than us who has been punished more than us. Right. And, you know, we can't even get a seat at the table. I mean, it's like Ben Shapiro literally went and testified in Congress about censorship in big tech. He's never been censored by big tech. Right. Alex Jones was kicked off of every big tech platform
Starting point is 01:13:04 on the same day and is not even invited to the hearings. So there's, I mean. Yeah, that is nuts. And the people that censored Alex Jones aren't invited. Yes, Zuckerberg can be there. And it's about Alex. I mean, they're talking about Alex in the hearings and he's not invited, but Ben Shapiro is who's never been censored anywhere for anything. Yeah. So it's rigged. It's all around. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's okay. That's okay because like Trump joined our movement. We didn't join his, right? Trump got on the Alex Jones train, not the other way around. So, you know, it's really, it's really just knowing the people that comment on this stuff without actually watching Alex.
Starting point is 01:13:39 And it is truly schizophrenic. I put something out the other day about Alex. And literally the first two comments were one saying, this is typical for MFORs. They'll never question anything Israel ever. does. They totally cover up for Israel. And the next comment was, these Nazis who will never sue hate Jews. And it's like, what did we do? What did we do? I mean, what, you know, we're just trying to tell the truth. And people have this just like
Starting point is 01:14:00 insane view of everything we do. Yeah. Yeah, the ties are turning on Israel, especially I mean, the biggest demographic is the boomers. And once they're gone, it's like, they have to change their whole spin on what their all the lives they've been pedaling. They have to come clean about it. Well, they're trying to start World War III.
Starting point is 01:14:20 They're trying to start World War III and bring about the apocalypse in line with the prophecy interpretation that they've spread through even Jal Khishol Christians. Because it's not about, Israel is supposed to be the seat of the global government. That's what it's really all about, is that Israel is supposed to be the capital of a one-world government. And it's supposed to be the seed, and they're going to fold all the religions into it. There's not going to be Judaism. There's not going to be, there's not going to be Islam. There's not going to be Christianity. So, like, right now, these religions have different sects within them.
Starting point is 01:14:48 some that are going along with the system, some that aren't. And you can see now the Russian Orthodox Church, not going along with the Antichrist system, the Greek Orthodox Church, not going along with the Antichrist system. The Shiite Muslims aren't going along with the Sunni Muslims are going along with the anti-crice system. And so, and like they're literally doing stuff where they're like going to Mount Sinai and presenting the 10 new commandments. And they're creating an interfaith Abrahamic center in Saudi Arabia, where all three
Starting point is 01:15:13 phase will be housed under the same. So they're trying to fold in all of the three Abrahamic. religions into one religion whose capital will be, and this is like an integral part of the world's government, and it'll all come about from these manufactured crises that'll lead to World War III and, you know, massive destruction. So it's bigger than just Israel anyway. Israel is just a key component and major aspect of their ultimate plan. Do you think a lot of people in the government, like Trump's administration, actually
Starting point is 01:15:40 believe in that? I think some of them believe in it, some of them are ignorant of it. I think that most of the people that we see in positions of power are just not the ones pulling the strings. You know, like we were saying with Cash and Dan, I mean, there are shadow governments operating things at a higher level. So, you know, it's kind of impossible as hell. Is Cash lying or is he being lied to? Or is the person lying to cash being lied to? I mean, you know, where does the deception end?
Starting point is 01:16:08 I don't, I couldn't possibly say. It's definitely a damn client list. Yeah, dude, how could there not be a client list? How could there not be a client list? Everybody has a client list. Fundraisers for the Republican Party have client lists. Like, everybody's got client list. Right.
Starting point is 01:16:25 There's no way he doesn't. The flight list is a client list. We already have that. Some of the names are blacked out. Right. No, it's absurd. For him to see, he's downloading child pornography. That's a huge operation, especially that flight list,
Starting point is 01:16:37 because you look at it was a bunch of Hollywood eight-listers on that plane. It's like, that's crazy. Well, though, those are freaks. Yeah. And it makes sense because once enough freaks get in positions of power, they're not going to let cool, normal, decent people get to that level. They're just not because, you know, like there was, and it's everywhere. I mean, there was a thing in the New York City. It was the New York City like local COVID whatever.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Remember he was busted in a James O'Kee for Project Veritas. They talked about having orgies while everybody else was on lockdown. It's like, you think that guy is going to bring on somebody who's going to tattle on him, who's going to blow the whistle. He's going to like think that's weird and not like. let him get away with it. No, he's going to bring people on that he knows are into it with him, right? And do that enough, you know, have that repeat decade over decade. And the entire system is just replete with corrupted, you know. I wonder what operation is going on right now to blackmail people. I'm sure the Epstein operation got a new handler. And there's some other dude with some other island.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Yeah. Flying people out to it. I mean, it hasn't stopped. It's a mafia. It's just the only way to think about it is a mafia. It's very simple. Everybody on that list. Everybody. Yeah, and I'm sure, you know, I'm not on it. They had the damn prince of, they had the damn royal family on the damn list that one guy was the name of Prince Andrew? Prince Andrew, yeah. That is crazy. Yeah. And that's, you know, that's another big aspect of it too.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Like, again, Project Veritas came out with that video of the ABC reporter when she was on Hot Mike saying, I had the story about Prince Andrew. Right. And they shut it down. So, like, you know, there's all these little instances where you can see the way the sausage is made. You can see the way that they go, we got the story about Prince Andrew. And the producers come up and go, hey, you know, we got this really big interview with Harry and Megan, and they're not
Starting point is 01:18:19 going to do it with us if you come out with this story. So we'd love to have you come out of this story, but, you know, this is going to be a billion-dollar thing for us. So we're going to have to shelve this for a little, maybe in a couple years. I remember that. That's the way it works. It's simple.
Starting point is 01:18:32 It's not, it's, you know. That's that same ecosystem you alluded to earlier about politicians getting elected. That's the same ecosystem that smash that story. Yeah, crush the story. And when you really think, think about what that means. That means that they allow, because that was a long time ago. They allowed a sex ring to continue operation, not be exposed, more girls being victimized because they really wanted the interview with Harry and Megan, which, and like, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:57 that's not actually what they're, right, you know, they're not actually that, you know, desperate for an interview with the royal couple that everybody hates. Right. It's just the excuse that they put forward. Right. When in reality, what they're saying is, yeah, we're not going with this story. Here's the excuse I'm giving you. Accept it. Because I'm not. I'm not giving you a... Hey, they said it's this crazy theory that Jews run the world. Yeah. I think we just proved they do.
Starting point is 01:19:23 I mean, it's, like I said, it's a mafia. Everybody understands how mafia's work. Yeah. Some of them have ethnic characters. There's an Italian mafia. There's a Russian mafia. Right. There's a Jewish mafia.
Starting point is 01:19:32 The Jewish mafia is just a lot more powerful than the other mafias. But nobody, you know, but nobody gets mad at you talking about the Italian mafia. Like, you hate all Italian people. Right. You obviously don't. But there is still an ethnic. component to it, that is integral to the operation of the system. So they got to talk about it. Antisemitic.
Starting point is 01:19:49 Yeah. Speaks volumes to a lot of people. And the people that need to know this are the Jews that are out there defending people, thinking that they're fighting anti-Semitism. And really, they're just running cover for the most evil people in the world. They're using their identity as a shield. Yeah. You know, Jews should not be a shield for George Soros.
Starting point is 01:20:06 They should not be a shield for Benjamin Nanyahu. These people are bad. That's not even his real name, right? Benjamin Natton Yahoo. No, no. it's like Mikowitz or something it's some Polish name Mikkowski yeah
Starting point is 01:20:18 Makkowski yeah I think so yeah shit so he's so he's Polish that's the one country if he goes back to he's going to wrestle well no he's America he grew up in Philly did he yeah Benjamin Aaron grew up in Philadelphia
Starting point is 01:20:33 what? Yeah then how to hell he came to prime minister of a foreign nation he's a United States citizen Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was born here if I'm not crazy He definitely grew up in Philadelphia for sure Yeah Damn
Starting point is 01:20:47 That is nuts I like to say an old picture of BB Like when he's 18 Why do a lot of Jewish people change their names Like Mark Cuban did that? Lots of different reasons I mean there's also just a Jewish tradition That you have kind of your private family name
Starting point is 01:21:04 And then you have the name that you're known like Yeah? Yeah I want a private family name Yeah right A lot of people have that It's kind of funny because I wonder if it comes It was saying the ancient The ancient Egyptians used to have a name
Starting point is 01:21:16 That only your mom knew Like your mom would give you a name That was your name but nobody knew it He was a strapping young man He was a stud He was a stud That's BB? That dude, but he was busting him some nuts
Starting point is 01:21:30 Yeah Well he looks crazy right there Yes he does I can see the Jew rage Yeah That man looks crazy. He looks a homicidal maniac. He looks pissed.
Starting point is 01:21:51 So he is an American citizen? Look up Netanyahu's bio. I want to say he was born here. I know he was raised in Philadelphia. Oh, look at that picture with that black suit. I want to see that. It's right there. Keep going down?
Starting point is 01:22:03 Yeah, he could click that. Can you make that bigger? Iran is two days away. I have a nuclear bomb. That's crazy how He's lost like Every ounce of credibility The things he said about Iran
Starting point is 01:22:24 And especially don't forget about the Iraq war Yeah He said exactly He lies constantly He was born in Tel Aviv, okay But he grew up in Philly for sure Yeah, no Israel He's probably a dual citizen
Starting point is 01:22:40 Is he a citizen of America? You might have to give that up 5658 63 to 67 see a dual citizen Joe I bet he'd have to give that up to be I doubt I doubt Israel is fools like America
Starting point is 01:23:06 I doubt they I doubt they let dual citizens yeah because they got the highest IQs right right it's been scrubbed it's scrubbed he scrubbed it yeah he's on the Epstein list
Starting point is 01:23:28 the what the Epstein list I bet he's been the least i think he's on del east he's like all the spanish yeah he's on the list that guy he's on the he's sad he's right there he's true hey uh do you uh do you trust Elon uh you know no no I guess nobody I mean my friend my Palestinian friend thinks he wants to turn everybody in the cybor I mean he does that's the thing like he definitely does yeah like he's got a whole business
Starting point is 01:23:59 that that's what he does so yeah I mean it but I don't know. I think he's fairly honest. I think he's more honest than most people in public. I don't think. I don't know, though. I mean, this is like the primary debate I have with people that watch my show because a lot of people are just like,
Starting point is 01:24:16 no, he is 100% like the Antichrist. Like he is the vehicle by way he pretends to be against the AI taker. He pretends to be against the antichrist, but like that's all the show. And then you have the interview with what's his name from Palantir where he was asked, he was like, you know, aren't you kind of Bill? the infrastructure that the Antichrist will use and he was just like oh gee never yeah Peter Thiel
Starting point is 01:24:36 yeah never thought about it that way it's like okay did you not because everybody else did everybody else noticed that you were doing this seems strange you didn't yeah so I don't know I you know I think a I think a large part of it same with like the Yuval Noah Harare's and the the Klaus Schwab we want you to be able to yeah this I love this Peter Joeke yeah this I love this Peter Joe someone where you change your penis into a vagina wait what and we can then debate how well those surgeries work. This is a long hesitation. There's so many culture.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Is transhumanism? A number of people deeply involved in artificial intelligence see it as a kind of mechanism for transhumanism, for transcendence of our mortal flesh. Is it hype? Is it delusion? Is it something you worry about? I think you would prefer the human race to endure, right? You're hesitated. Yes?
Starting point is 01:25:30 I don't know. A very easy question to answer. Very easy question to answer. Yeah. This is a long hesitation. There's so many questions. Should the human race survive? Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:47 But the ideal was this radical transformation where your human natural body gets transformed into an immortal body. Transvestite is someone who changes their clothes and cross-dress. and a transsexual is someone where you change your penis into a vagina, and we can then debate how well those surgeries work. But we want more transformation than that.
Starting point is 01:26:13 The critique is not that it's weird and unnatural. Man, it's so pathetically little. And we want more than cross-dressing or changing your sex organs. We want you to be able to change your heart and change your mind and change your whole body. science fiction author Isaac Asimov wrote the three laws of robotics in 1942, all of which were based on doing no harm to humans, and all of which have already been broken. While the U.S. president pushes a 10-year moratorium on any AI regulation, the experts push fear, and Peter Thiel explains why. You have been giving talks recently about the concept of the Antichrist.
Starting point is 01:27:01 What does that mean to you? What is the Antichrist? In all these Antichrist books, people wrote, how does the Antichrist take over the world? He gives these demonic, hypnotic speeches, and people just fall for it. And so it's this plot hole. The way the Antichrist would take over the world is you talk about Armageddon nonstop. You talk about existential risk nonstop, and this is what you need to regulate. You're saying the real Antichrist would play on that fear and say, you must come with me to avoid
Starting point is 01:27:32 Skynet, to avoid the Terminator, to avoid nuclear Armageddon. Yes. It just seems to me that when you tell me a story about the Antichrist coming to power and using the fear of technological change to sort of impose order on the world, I feel like that Antichrist would be maybe be using the tools that you were building, right? Like wouldn't the Antichrist be like, great, you know, we're not going to have any more technological progress. But I really like what Palantir has done, how you get to a world willing to submit to permanent authoritarian rule. Well, but, but again, there are these different gradations of this we can describe.
Starting point is 01:28:18 but Greg Reese reporting. It's like watching someone pull the teeth when he speaks. Yeah, these are the billionaires that are, you know, dictating who we're voting for. He's a goofy looking dude. He's like a day over 1,000. Yeah, I mean, it's literally just the fulfillment of the problems of the Garden of Eden, right? It's, follow me, use your intellect, and you'll live forever and be as gods. That's what they're trying to set up.
Starting point is 01:28:49 They're trying to set up this one world government. and everything is being directed towards that revelation that they have infinite life technology essentially and whether that's uploading your brain or reverse aging. You live forever. The billionaires literally right. They either think they have accomplished this or think that they are just on the cusp of accomplishing this. So if you think about it, obviously immortality cannot be given to everybody. That is unsustainable.
Starting point is 01:29:13 You know, you would run out of resources immediately, right? So only a few people can have the immortality. So they're trying to build a world where we accept that, where we accept that, where we accept that there's small number of people that have the immortality, and by serving them well enough, you might also be given us. So it'll be a carrot that's dangled over everybody else. You can join us the gods who live forever and control everything if you obey us enough. So that's why I think a lot of what they're preparing for is like we got to get a world where people will accept that and won't just kill us. That's great because they got like planetar.
Starting point is 01:29:49 Is that how you say it? Palantir. Palantir? They've got a lot of, like Israel, their army, their military is using a lot of other technology to take out like Hamas. Children. Children. Yeah. No, literally. It's crazy. No, it's wild. It's wild. And that's what I don't understand about the Gaza thing is like, how do you not sympathize with the Gazans? And how do you not feel like there but for the grace of God go us? Like, because they're living, they are the prototype of the 15-minute city, right? You've got to have permission to leave. You can't leave without, you know, the passport and you've got AI machine guns mounted on the fences to make sure that you can't leave. And, I mean, they have, I mean, it's insane. It's dystopian there. The drone, like, you know, machine gun or drone mounted machine guns flying around, playing the sound of babies crying to lure people out or like shooting people in dread and breadlines.
Starting point is 01:30:40 Yeah, it's sick. And Palantir is providing a lot of the tech for all that lavender and all that. That's crazy. And Fox News won't cover that? CNN won't cover it? because there's that same ecosystem you alluded to about you got to have that ecosystem to become successful being an elected official in this country. And it's just not, it's honestly just not working anymore. Like you, you know, you lose credibility by defending the stuff that Israel is doing.
Starting point is 01:31:07 And I feel like at this point, they're almost like cycling through all of their, like, you know, people you're sending out Ted Cruz. And it's like, well, that failed horribly. Who do we have? Who do we have next? We have somebody else to make the case. What can they say or do next to keep everybody believing that lie? Yeah. That they're God's chosen people.
Starting point is 01:31:25 Yeah. Well, that's it. It's working well. Context matters. I know Jesus said that, but hey, that happened 3,400 years ago. Anybody with an honest or an ounce of integrity wouldn't say that about the same people that's living in that political entity Israel right now? No, it's just, it's honestly absurd. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:31:47 So I don't know. I don't know how people fall for it, but, you know, they fall for everything. Well, they make me feel smart. Well, maybe we just dumb as fuck. You don't realize it. No, that's definitely not it. I mean, going back to like the Ben Shapiro thing, he's like, you know, if you have evidence, it's like, there is infinite evidence. I mean, the Gilling Maxwell trial. That was all evidence. The reports made by the people at the time, all of that is evidence. So, you know, the Ben Shapiro's tactic of like, we're the smart ones. And you crazy conspiracy theorists over there, speculating. It's like none of this, literally none of this is speculation. Nobody's speculating about anything. We don't speculate. We used to. There used to be a time when this stuff was hidden. It's all just like out in the open now. You don't need to speculate. They tell you. They literally
Starting point is 01:32:29 told us, we have to go to war with Iran for Israel. They didn't even try to cover it up. We mentioned that on Twitter and everybody attacks us. Yeah. At least in, at least in like 2001, they had the decency to false flag us, right? At least they had the courtesy to lie us into the war rather than just being like, no, you're doing this for Israel because nukes. It's absurd. They move beyond the need for false flags. They just tell us that it's happened. Hey, I want to ask you about methylene blue.
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Starting point is 01:34:14 fishing fleets. Chinese fishing fleets. Yeah, that's one thing. I definitely know what the hell you're talking about. Private, private equity is the other thing. Chinese, so China has floating cities, they call them, and there are fleets of thousands of boats. They go just in international waters off the coast of places like Peru and Argentina, and they just fish the oceans completely, they destroy all the life, and they never touch land there. They have a mothership system where they send everything back to China. So everything they're consuming and everything they're catching goes back to China. And they have like electrified nets. They drag across the bottom of the ocean floor.
Starting point is 01:34:48 And they literally eradicate ocean life in an area. And then they move on to the next area. And these are floating cities that can be seen from space. The number of boats. There's like flotillas. Really? Yeah. Just systematically eliminating populations of fish.
Starting point is 01:34:59 Just to feed that country. Yeah. That might be it. Yeah. No, it's wild. Yeah. Search. Yeah, Chinese fishing fleets.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Floating cities. I've done a bunch of reports on it. I don't know how we, I don't know how people. people don't know about this. And this is of course what gives, you know, the absurdity to all the climate change concerns and stuff where it's like, oh, we're so concerned. We have to stop driving gasoline cars to save the earth. Meanwhile, China is just systematically denuding the ocean of life as rapidly as they possibly can. And Argentina's having big problems with them because they, these are waters that these, you know, local communities rely on. But since
Starting point is 01:35:37 they never dock, they never give anything back to them. They never pay taxes or anything. So they just they just roll up like electrocute it looks me see i've been talking about this forever there you are coast it's a massive city bigger than the capital of argentina since the city is beyond the 2000th nautical mile it's technically within international waters but they occupy all the fishing spots for years until the fish go extinct and then move on to the next one the south atlantic will be empty in a few years at this rate that's crazy never heard of yeah yeah no it's wild it's been on for years Wow.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Yeah, so that's one that I really wish more people talked about and that we did something about. And it would also hopefully awaken people to the absurdity of climate change while China's just the worst for the ecology in every possible way. I mean, it's like they go out of their way to be terrible. Yeah. To build this system where they destroy all the life. It's like, you don't have to do that. You can have like manageable farming techniques when it comes to like crabs and lobsters where you don't kill all of them. so that they're still there the next year when you need them.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Yeah, they don't do any of that. Look at more Disney movies because they go over all that shit, killing everything, leaving nothing for everybody else. What was that dude that came and chopped down all the trees? And he made fucking, what was that? The Lorax. Yes, we need Dr. Seuss. We need to indoctrinate the Chinese children with Dr. Seuss.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Everybody saw Lorax. I can see it. You see that. He's chopping down all the trees. I remember he's like orange or something, right, with a mustache. And then it went so far to do. did, he was selling all the treats to him. He was selling air because there's still
Starting point is 01:37:18 all air left. You didn't see Lorax? I see that. I guess I got to see it. Yeah, Lorax is a good movie. China needs to see it. So that'd be the one thing. The other thing is private equity. The way private equity is buying everything up right now.
Starting point is 01:37:31 Tiffany Sianci is doing a lot of great coverage on that. Ian Carroll as well. You know. Just buying up houses and stuff? Well, the houses, yeah, that's a big issue. But this is like small businesses and like they have all these shady is doing it. It's like it's really deep. But they basically will go into a location and they'll buy like every HVAC company. But they'll make that they'll let them keep their names and they'll
Starting point is 01:37:53 still say on the website that it's locally owned and operated. But they then have a monopoly over this area and can jack up prices. And they put be a lot of business. And the whole the whole thing rests on the idea of what's the phrase? Instead of going to court, you have like a private settlement. Adjudication. Arbitration. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Arbitration. So it's all this this private arbitration that they stop people from going public so nobody knows what's happening and they're able to like shut down these small businesses. Tiffany Sianci is the one you want to get on if if you want to talk about that. She she was a victim of it. She owned a small gym like a little play, you know, daycare gym type thing. And basically private equity just came in and just like destroyed her
Starting point is 01:38:34 life and tried to ruin her and she's been fighting back against it. So that I think is something that is like happening under our noses that like not a lot of people know about. but it's, like, causing a huge, huge number of issues. I know I was renting a home. It was during COVID. I got kicked out of the owner said he went to sell. And it's been about four years. Nobody lives in a house.
Starting point is 01:38:55 I was like, what the hell is that all about? But that's the thing. That's what people don't understand about the whole, like, we're going to. But it says it was sold on Zillow. It was sold to an LLC. Oh, yeah, yeah. Nobody's living in that, though. See, but that's thing people don't,
Starting point is 01:39:08 it's not just about eliminating private ownership. Like, that's definitely a part of it. they just don't want you to own your home, but like they can kick you out whenever they want. They can, you know, they can search your house without your permission. You know, they don't have to get a warrant if they can go to the landlord. If they have a deal with a corporation that owns a bunch of houses, just like they do with big tech where they don't have to get a warrant to get your messages if they have a line to Twitter and they can say, hey, we need these purpose messages.
Starting point is 01:39:31 They don't ask for a warrant. Same thing. That whole Liberty Safe debacle about it was a guy that works for us, were part owner of the company, but he was raided and they just called Liberty Safe debacle. since they open the safe for me. Yeah. Without a warrant. So if you don't own your house, like that's a big psychological change.
Starting point is 01:39:49 It's, you know, you're paying the same amount, but it's just rent instead of mortgage. So at the end of 20 years, instead of owning the house, you own nothing. You've just paid the same amount as you would have otherwise. So that's, again, it's just like a giant scheme that there's no reason why we should be allowing that. It's just absolutely absurd. I saw your one video, you just talking about how much we pay in taxes. Yeah. That shit is insane.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Yeah. Because you don't, because you don't think about the compounding aspect of it. tax, income tax, property tax, federal tax. And that's my dad's thing. My dad would always explain it with a, be at a bar or something, you'd have a beer and go, how much do you think, how much of the price of this beer is taxes? And we go through it. All right, the hops were taxed.
Starting point is 01:40:24 They were taxed there. They were taxed. You know, the trucks that brought it here were taxed. And so it's like, you know, at the end of the day, this beer costs $0.25. And then there's $4. And then there's $4.00 of taxes on top of it. Right, right. You just don't even think about it.
Starting point is 01:40:35 A lot of people don't really understand why the difference in gas prices in California in here. It's taxes. Yeah. They just raised their taxes on that gas. I was shocked seeing the gas prices here. They're like double what they are in Texas. Yeah, it's expensive here, yeah. Yeah, Texas.
Starting point is 01:40:50 Yeah. Man, this is the crazy fucking world. Yeah, yeah. Hey, you ever seen Alex Jones go nuts behind the scenes? What? Just totally lose it? He can't take it anymore. Trying to think of a time.
Starting point is 01:41:04 No, I can't, never seen the, yes. What, every day? Yeah. that's more or less yeah every day no I mean he this is the thing people don't understand he tones it down when he goes on air that's what people don't get off air he is even more intense
Starting point is 01:41:19 and he gets on air and he all right we're gonna do this and then you see you know you see how crazy he gets but that's this little avenue to let everything go yeah kind of but it's always in service of that like he's not the type of guy that's like I said no blue trees on my burger like it's never like something personal it's always like
Starting point is 01:41:34 just globalist like you know that really is the source of it and and you know you see him when he blows up at the crew. I mean, it's funny. And it's a crucible, right? It's like you don't last in Info Wars. If you can't handle it,
Starting point is 01:41:48 if you can't handle the pressure. And a lot of pressures from the out, most of the pressures from the outside, but there's a lot of pressure to get a ride for Alex. Because it's, you know, 10 million people watch. Like, he told us about the frogs going gay.
Starting point is 01:41:58 You telling us about the Chinese killing, making a lot of first life going extinct. What do y'all find this information? Are y'all, like, constantly just digging, looking, investigating everything? Yeah, constantly. Yes.
Starting point is 01:42:08 Yeah. constantly digging and looking. Yeah. And just starting with the basis, the base assumption that like, of the Alex Jones sort of philosophy of just like, the elite in the world are building a one world government. And that's what all of this is for.
Starting point is 01:42:25 And they want mass depopulation and they want to eliminate the concept of freedom. They want to revert back before 1776. I mean, just the term info wars and the imagery that we use, it's all, it tells the real story of what's going on. And so, you know, it's like, I'm not, at a certain point, you have to stop being shocked. That's the most annoying thing to me with all the, like, the Epstein stuff, the Israel stuff. It's like, I'm annoyed that everybody's still shocked at any of this.
Starting point is 01:42:50 You should all understand by now, like, just how thoroughly corrupt everything is. But the, and to also recognize how far we've come, I mean, it is crazy how different the information landscape is these days, where probably 10 years ago, if you said 9-11 was an inside job, nobody would talk. you. Like you wouldn't be able to get a job. Like now, I bet more than half the people you ask about 9-11, they'd say, yeah, we don't have the real story. So there was no, there was no documentary that came out. There was no paper that was published that changed everybody's mind. That was just a progressive, you know, slow drip revelation that at some point, the tide turned, and now everybody knows we've been lied to. So we've had like major successes in the information war, and that's what it is. And you have to treat it like a war. And you have to, you know, fight it like it is a war.
Starting point is 01:43:36 And I think a lot of people, they want to win this battle and they can't see the bigger picture for what it is. And Alex laid that out 30 years ago. So in terms of finding all that stuff, yeah, you just, you know, you go on the sites that people tell you not to go on. Because that's where the interesting stuff is often posted. Yeah, you almost got to train yourself to read what they're telling you, but you have to also tell yourself what are they not telling you. Yeah, yeah. You have to get in that mindset whenever you read anything nowadays. And that's something that the left is sort of co-opted, but it's absolutely right.
Starting point is 01:44:06 the critical media interpretation where you have to be able to picture for yourself, what are they leaving out? Why are they framing it this way? What do they want me to believe? And it's funny, it always reminds me of in Harry Potter. You know, there's a part in the Harry Potter series where Harry's the enemy and the newspapers writing all these bad stories about him. And there's a part where Hermione Granger is saying, no, you still have to read the lies because you can figure out the truth from it. You still have, you know, even though you know that, in fact, knowing that they're lying gives you a, you go and you read it and you go, okay, what is this liar saying?
Starting point is 01:44:36 what can I get from that? What is the truth I can glean from it? And so, you know, you just go with what you know. And, you know, the gay frogs thing is really funny. I always point out I think the reason that that clip in particular went viral is one, because he's getting so upset. But then if you really think about it, it's the thing to get upset about it. It'd be like the Chinese fishing fleets. It's like, how are you not yelling and screaming that this is going on?
Starting point is 01:45:02 But he says, they are putting chemicals in the water to turn the frogs gay. If he just said there are chemicals in the water or the industrial runoff from pesticides happen to affect the, you know, sex organs of certain frogs, nobody would care. But when he says that they are putting, it's like, okay, it's a conspiracy now. Now it's something that was intentionally done. Why would anybody want to make the frogs gay? And it sounds absurd. But then you actually do research and you realize that these companies have lobbied the government to not test for atrazine because they knew what it does. They know that it affects your hormones and they go out of their way.
Starting point is 01:45:34 they pay to have that, you know, not known and to allow them to continue to spray it, even though they know it's wrong. So he's not wrong. They are putting chemicals in the water to make you gay. They are putting fluoride in the water to make you stupid. They know what it does, and they're doing it anyway, and they're hiding that they're doing it. So you know, they know they know it's wrong, but they, you know, pay to have it covered up. And all, and all that's public, and it's all so, you know, it's that type of stuff that, like, I don't know, people, they just don't want to believe it, you know, it just like is painful to them to learn how
Starting point is 01:46:04 it's the truth. Yeah, to learn how messed up the world is, but it's like, yeah, it's just it's just reality. I don't know what to tell you. It's always been screwed up, though. It's okay, yeah. And that, that really is the thing that makes me, like, not blackpilled is knowing that, like, it's been this way for
Starting point is 01:46:19 70 years. Like, I think a lot of people, as they learn it, they feel like it's happening. Ever since eating. Yeah, no, seriously. Since it's like, y'all, we've been been fucked up. But for real. But for real, though.
Starting point is 01:46:37 That's for real. So, you know, at the end of the day, like, it's fine. Everything's fine. It's all good. Like, we're curiously, we're actually, like, making major changes that are very positive. Like, it's fine. Don't worry about it. It's, like, normal chaos.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Yeah, and it's manageable, and the awakening's happening, and they're not getting away with their lives, and they're, you know, everything they do is now, like, having a bunch of backlash. like, okay, TikTok is exposing what Israel is doing in Gaza, but then them trying to shut down TikTok just makes everybody go, well, what the hell? We can't get anything done for us, but you're banning TikTok in an afternoon with both parties on board. What the hell is going on here?
Starting point is 01:47:12 So everything they do, you know, backfires on them, and it just exposes them more. So we're in a good loop right now. You know what really over my eyes to what was going on in Israel? Because I think it was like, it was like six, I would say about three, four months after the whole Kanye thing went down with Alex Jones. and I kept seeing, I said, wow, that's so anti-Semactic things he was saying, right?
Starting point is 01:47:33 And I went on TikTok and everybody's saying, free Palestine. I was like, what the hell is this Palestine shit? Yeah, we're Israel. I started Googling it. And I was like, oh, my God, this place used to be called Palestine. And then I was like, oh, Israel became Israel State in 1948. And I've seen interviews of Jewish people, Arab people that said, we all lived there together. And it was called Palestine.
Starting point is 01:47:58 You get a Palestine. You get dead, Palestine passports. Yeah. Yeah. And then people on both sides, left and right, saying, oh, Palestine never existed. That's wild. Yeah. That's so wild.
Starting point is 01:48:10 That's not a genocide. That's crazy. That's like beyond it. That's eradicating the people and then the history or the existence that people ever have. Those people are there thousands of years. You know, it's funny that was asking Trump about the genocide in Israel, the Gaza Strip or whatever. And then he's like, he's like, he's. He's like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:48:29 We're here talking about the white genocide in South Africa. He said that, and I was like... If that's a genocide was going on in South Africa, and that's not a genocide? You actually can't call it a white genocide in South Africa. It's a white farmer genocide. They're not going after all white people, just the farmers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he's calling that a white genocide.
Starting point is 01:48:54 Yeah, yeah. But he won't call Gaza genocide. Which is so weird, especially when he talks about Ukraine, he's like, all these people, these dead people, and he seems really sincere. And then it's like, well, what about the Palestinian people? You don't care about that? It's weird, man. It doesn't make any sense. That dude, the prime minister of Ukraine, is that what they call him prime minister's that? I think he's the president. It's the president. Yeah, they call him president of that, right?
Starting point is 01:49:17 He's Jew. He's Jew. I know that. He's Jewish. How did he get elected? Is it any truth to everybody that was running for the president of Ukraine? They either died or. They arrested. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, his main sponsor was a guy named Igor Kaminsky, I think it was. So that's an interesting rabbit hole to go down. But yeah, I mean, Ukraine goes back to 2004 and then again in 2014. I mean, there was a duly elected Ukrainian government that was basically asked to choose between siding with the EU or with Russia. There was particularly big trade battle going on.
Starting point is 01:49:54 He had to pick one of them. He was going to pick Russia. I think he announced that he was going with Russia and then they did the coup, the Maidan, you know, revolution and kicked him out. So, you know, it has been operated as an American puppet state ever since then. So however Zelensky got elected, it was with permission and by the orders of the CIA or the State Department because that was who, you know, overthrew in the first place. You ever heard the phone call from Victoria Newland talking about, she says F the EU. And I mean, she's on, the Russians recorded a call between her and Gregory Piott, who was the
Starting point is 01:50:26 ambassador, I think ambassador of the UN at the time or something, but they're literally just discussing, okay, who are we going to put in the presidency of Ukraine? Well, this guy's got these people, this guy, the EU wants these people, and Victoria Nguyen and says, F, the EU, this guy's going in, and of course he became, I think it was Yanukovych, became the
Starting point is 01:50:42 president. So, like, in a very like real, direct way, it's the American government being like, this guy's going to be your president. Wow, that's why that whole war between Ukraine and Russia is so much deeper than the surface is telling anybody. he wants that country back because it's getting infiltrated by American culture.
Starting point is 01:51:01 American influence. Oh, yeah, yeah, this phone call. They've tried to bury this. And in fact, this is on, like, BBC and stuff, and they've gone back and, like, change the articles and, like, taking this out. Yeah, you used to be able to find this on official mainstream media sources. They have since, like, in the last year or so, taking it down. Jewish?
Starting point is 01:51:21 I don't think Cleach should go into the government. I don't think it's necessary. I don't think it's a good idea. of him not going into the government, just let him sort of stay out and do his political homework and stuff. I'm just thinking in terms of sort of the process moving ahead, we want to keep the moderate Democrats together. The problem is going to be Tony Book and his guys, and, you know, I'm sure that's part of what Yanukovic, which is calculating on all of this. I think Yats is the guy who's got the economic experience, the governing experience. He's, he's
Starting point is 01:51:50 the guy, you know, what he needs is Cleach and Tony Book on the outside. He needs to be talking to them four times a week. You know, I, I just think Cleach going in, he's going to be at that level working for Yatineuk, it's just not going to work. I don't think Cleggis- That's crazy. Discussing that they're going to install. And look, you know, it's not, it's also not a small aspect that, like, Victoria Newland, Anthony Blinking, all these people, their families literally fled the Nazis from Ukraine, right? So, you know, their families have this, like, you know, ethnic revenge fantasy against people of Ukraine for driving out their grandparents. That's, that's a big aspect of it too. You can't underestimate that. And again, I think Putin is in a lot of ways
Starting point is 01:52:34 standing up against the New World Order Antichrist system that's coming, which is why the Orthodox Russian Church is being split. That's a big part of the Ukraine War is that they split the, they created the Ukraine church, which is supposed to be distinct and separate from the Russian church with their patriarch in Moscow. And that was done completely outside of the normal lawful bounds of the Orthodox Church. Like typically it would be the Russian patriarch that would have to grant permission for a portion of his constituency to make their own church. But he didn't.
Starting point is 01:53:06 It was this guy in Istanbul who basically said that Ukraine, the Ukraine church could be created. So, you know, the war in Ukraine is a lot to do with the attack on the Russian Orthodox church and that they are not going along with the anti-crise system. Now, they say Israel has the right to defend itself against Iran, right? Even though Iran hasn't did shit to them, right? I guess you can say Russia has a right to defend themselves. They protected themselves from American influence and outside influence. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:36 Because Ukraine and Russia is pretty much there, all of the same people. People culture. They're very much, yeah, very much the same people. I mean, the only reason Ukraine is separate and distinct is because one of the Soviet leaders was from Ukraine and just wanted it to be separate. So he just made it something separate. It was just sort of an arbitrary bureaucratic process that it went through in like the 50s. Yeah. That's like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:59 It's all very distinct. I mean, there's like debates between there were in the early like Soviet Union whether they were going to like get rid of Ukrainian as a language because they were like it's just it's just mispronounced Russian. Like it's just it's just it's own language. It's just basically slang. It's just like Russian slang. So yeah, I got a colleague. He's from Ukraine. He said a majority of Ukrainians there.
Starting point is 01:54:23 like pro-Russia. Yeah. Well, it's, I mean, it depends on where you are in the country. I think there is a big split. He said the east side and the west side totally, but he said, he said majority people Ukraine when you combine it. He said they're pro-Russia. That was his opinion.
Starting point is 01:54:35 Yeah. So, I mean, what's happening in Ukraine was in no way a ground-up thing from the Ukraine. It's purely a proxy war between America and Russia that we could have stopped at any point. And that the people like Blinken and Newland all have this, like, weird, familial connection to Ukraine within a generation or two. That's crazy. got that connection with Ukraine, all those people dying, and we got that connection with the lab in
Starting point is 01:54:57 Wuhan that killed millions of people. Yeah. It's almost like we're the Antichrist. Almost. It's almost like that. Yeah, that was, and something like that. Like, when we talk about Ben Shapiro, Ben Shapiro told you to get the vaccine, right? Biggapiro was wrong about that. Right. Demonstrably incorrect. Yeah. About that and a number of other things. And again, it's like, okay, just assume the worst, and you're probably going to be right. Just assume, like, as soon as soon as we heard about COVID, it was like, this probably came from a lab. It was probably released on purpose. It's probably to rig the election. Like,
Starting point is 01:55:29 all of this was, they're going to have a vaccine. It's going to be a vaccine passport. It's to roll out this new form of vaccine, MRI. So I don't say you start talking about them back says, I ain't taking that shit. Right. As soon as Trump said, Operation Warped Speed, I said, I still ain't taking it. No. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:55:44 And you know, the biggest prevails of that vaccine was the left, even though Trump's administration made it. And they used it to weaponize against this is like crazy yeah and you know another aspect of it is is the the rule by media like democracy is basically rule by media right so you know it's it's weird but I realized this I was reading a book about the outbreak of World War I and it was the way it was portraying it was like all the government ministers were trying really hard to avoid war but the people had been like ginned up
Starting point is 01:56:15 with all these media stories about like Germans you know bayonetting Belgian babies and so it was like they almost had to cave to the public pressure to actually do something and get involved in the war. And so Operation Warpspeed, I think, was a similar kind of situation where the media had so imprisoned people in fear over COVID, like they were not going to go back to work without a vaccine. They had been told by the media, you know, you should not go back to work until there's a vaccine. The vaccine's the only way out. So I give Trump a little bit of leeway there because it's like the economy was going to crash.
Starting point is 01:56:47 It was going to get bad. People were going to starve. The supply systems were barely hand. hanging on and the American people had been Pavlovianly trained to, you know, demand a vaccine. So I think he didn't really, he didn't really have a choice. He had to come out of the vaccine. Otherwise, you know, the, it would have been very, very bad. I know it was a wake-up call at one of his rallies he brought Johnson Johnson on stage.
Starting point is 01:57:06 You could hear a pig-rup in it. Yeah. That's the thing. I wish Trump would still do rallies. If Trump still did rallies, you wouldn't get away with all this shit. People would be chanting, fuck Israel, fuck Israel. Like, oh, that's true. Right?
Starting point is 01:57:19 I mean, that was such a good. good back and forth. Like you could, we could actually change Trump's mind. And, you know, they'll tell stories where like he talks about Ross Ulrich at the Libertarian Conference. And it was the crowd's response. And he was like, oh, shit, they really care about this. This is a big, I better do it. So, like, he really responds to people. He flipped on Bitcoin, too. Yeah. Yeah. And it's because, you know, it's because people in the rallies would cheer for things and he would calibrate his stance, you know, based on that. So I wish he was still doing rallies because I think he'd get an earful from his audience, right?
Starting point is 01:57:52 He owes a lot to his fans because his followers saved his life in Pennsylvania. Yeah. Yeah. I do what we've been through. Like what the right has been through is crazy. And to me, the scariest thing is knowing that, like, they're going to go way harder.
Starting point is 01:58:08 Like, what we saw from 2020 to 2024 is, like, nothing compared to... You see online now, it's like, you know, J.D. Vance will just be like, great job with deportations. And the commons underneath are, like, you were going to be shot in the head for treason. Like, they are really, like, they are smelling blood and are, like, desperate to get back in power to start, like, putting us in camps. Like, seriously.
Starting point is 01:58:27 What do you think life's going to be like when Trump's out of office? Yeah, that's a great question. I don't know. I mean, it's weird that we're only six months into his first term. I know. Same like ten years already. Six months. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:41 So we got three and a half years to go. Like, God only knows. He's got tanks, people on horses. He's got ice. It's just going through. I love that. The alligator alcatraz, I think it's amazing. I prefer alligator Auschwitz, but that's, uh, they don't want to go there.
Starting point is 01:58:56 I'm just saying, I'm just saying. Alligator Alcatter Auschwitz. And it does have a good ring to it. I say embrace it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think, uh, what do you think about the Democrat party? You think they can recover from? Because they're like totally, they're not even liberal anymore.
Starting point is 01:59:17 They're more progressive. Yeah, yeah, I think they're going to be taken over by the AOC wing. I think that's the youth calling for that, which, again, it's like the Republicans are just shooting themselves in the foot, man. We are literally going to, like, if you want to protect, if they love capitalism so much and they want to protect capitalism, the number one thing they should be doing is regulating capitalism. Because you've got these companies just, you've got to chronic capitalism at this point. Yeah, and Microsoft, like firing, you know, 9,000 Americans and immediately hiring 6,000 Indians. Like, you've got to stop that. You've got to stop that because...
Starting point is 01:59:49 Yeah. Yeah. They fired all those people. They hired... Yeah, they laid off 9,000 Americans while simultaneously applying for 6,300 H-1B visa. Well, look, I'm back with... Every time I call, I know I'm calling some shithole in India.
Starting point is 02:00:03 Yeah, yeah. So, you know, so people see that, and they're like, what the fuck, you know, this is horrible. And it's the socialist that's the one going, yeah, it's because capitalism is bad and we're going to fix this. And the Republicans are saying, well, you know, tough shit, they can make $10 more dollars by selling, your history and culture out, so that's what they're going to do, and they think that's fine.
Starting point is 02:00:21 It's like, we're literally going to be taken over by some sort of communist, socialist. That's why I like Trump's tariff policy, because it's really a leftist policy when you think about it, because he doesn't believe in free trade anymore. Yeah. Well, I don't, yeah, I don't believe in free trade either. I mean, it doesn't make any sense. Especially if you take all your labor and have your products manufactured in China for a fraction of the cost, and then you imported here.
Starting point is 02:00:45 And that's like very un-American. Yeah, what type of way to run a country is that? It's nonsense. Damn, evil capitalist. Yeah, right? And so the socialists are going to come up. But, like, it's American. It's a tradition of America to break up monopolies and to use the power of the government against the corporations.
Starting point is 02:01:02 Because, like, what the hell am I going to do against Microsoft? I can't do shit. It's got to be the government that protects Americans against corporations. There's no other option. It's been sold out a long time ago. Yeah. Teddy Roosevelt wouldn't let him get away with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:15 Yeah, yeah. Right? You know, it's not this dichotomy between capitalism and communism. It's, you know, Americanism is there to, you know, tamp down the excesses of capitalism, which are just as damaging as anything the government does. Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. Man, this has been a damn good show. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:01:34 I feel like you're, like, sad. I feel like I blackfielded you. This is the problem. I just, like, this happens so often, man. I'm just, like, talking and people ask me, this happened to me, like, way before I worked at Info Wars, There's this girl like, I love talking politics at a party in college. And I said something just really flipping about like, well, Obama's not really pretty. And she just like burst into tears and like runs away.
Starting point is 02:01:53 And I'm like, I'm not trying to blackfill everybody. It's just how it is. I don't know. Right. It's fine. It's all fine. It's all good. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:03 There's some of the things talk to do. I was like, yeah, that's good. It's good. And some of the things are like, no, it's not. That's not what I believe. It's like there's always a, it's always going to be that though. Yeah. It's always like a one for us and one for them type thing.
Starting point is 02:02:14 Exactly what it feels like. Yeah, I don't know. And when we say one for them, we're talking about Israel. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, literally, yes. Literally, it's like, yeah, we'll do deportations, but also we're going to, like, kick out medical students who criticize Israel. And it's like, but why?
Starting point is 02:02:29 But why that part? Can we just get the good part? Dude, that dude, what's his name? Camus Khalil? What the fuck did he do? I don't think he did anything. He just criticized Israel, right? That's definitely why he was targeted, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 02:02:42 Which it's like, okay, if we had massy, If everything was going great and you were doing that, I'd say, okay, well, I don't like it, but whatever. We're, you know, we're seeing. But it's like, we can't get anything that we want, and they get everything that they want, everything. They do actually have everything. They have free college, free medical care. We don't have none of that. Do you think anybody's been deported from America that's Jewish and sent back to Israel?
Starting point is 02:03:07 You think that's ever happened? Yeah, yeah, I'm sure that's happening because, yeah, there's a lot of. How about under this administration? Yeah, maybe not. I don't know. Makes you think, though. Yeah. Zero.
Starting point is 02:03:21 Yeah, it's probably zero. Yeah. Hey, what can people find you, Harrison? You can find me on X at Harrison H. Smith at Harrison H. Smith. Yeah, and I do The American Journal each and every weekday morning, 8 to 11 a.m. at band. video and infowars.com forward slash show. And we stream on X at InfoWars. And Rumble and everywhere.
Starting point is 02:03:39 That's a dream job, right? It's crazy. It is the best job ever. It really is something else. Yeah, I used to work in our insurance. Used to be a security guard. Used to be a proud investigator. All those jobs suck.
Starting point is 02:03:50 Yeah. And the job we do now, man, it's amazing. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Yeah, thank God, man. Yeah. Don't even feel like work. I was going through some old papers from like back when I did freelance because I never had a job
Starting point is 02:04:02 before and forth. I just like freelance video stuff. I was looking at all of my like to do list that's like apply to jobs here, you know, check there. And I was just like getting to panic. I was, I can't go back. I can't go back. Like I can't do that ever again. Holy shit yeah yeah he's nine to fives man is horrible no I got far from every job ever
Starting point is 02:04:19 right that's it I know I was never good at like just like that take putting your head down and yeah yeah yeah in the cupicle that shit sucks yeah so I yeah I'm I'm incredibly lucky but you know the M4's audience is just like the I know everybody's like oh we have the best audience but like the M4's audience is the best audience they're there they know what's up they are like so generous it's It truly is amazing. You can't be a Republican and don't watch him for wars. You know, well, you'd be...
Starting point is 02:04:48 There's certain types of Republicans that... There's a lot of liberals in the party now because they can't just deal with Democrats no more. They won't watch him for wars. Yeah, I know. They should. And it's funny because, you know, Alex used to be...
Starting point is 02:05:01 They used to call him a leftist. They thought he was a leftist because he was against the wars that Bush was waging in Iraq. It's so crazy, man. He saw before everybody. Yeah. And it's like, and it's great
Starting point is 02:05:11 because when you have that position, like you never have to apologize you never have to do a mea copa you never have to go well i was wrong about that it's like it's pretty simple just be anti-war be you know just assume that everything happening in the geopolitics is just deception and you never have to apologize this same message for it 30 40 years yeah 30 yeah 30 years crazy now it's the boilerplate for being a republican out of it yeah and we paid the price for it big time when i first heard that we go to wars to make rich people money i thought that was crazy Yeah, and it's like even that wouldn't even be that bad.
Starting point is 02:05:48 It's like if we were just going to war to make people money, that wouldn't even be as bad as what like the real reason we're going to war, which is like literally to just like kill everyone. You know, it's just like to create a one world government and. Yeah. Because that's the thing. They pitch globalism as ending war because they want these economies that are super intertwined where you can't even go to war because China makes all of our medicine. So like, you know, what the fuck? But what it really means is you're not going to have nation states warring against nation states for a certain period of time. That's what war has been forever is some topic gets to a point of heating that it boils over and two states clash and then they have peace and separate. That's what's going away.
Starting point is 02:06:29 What's replacing it is endless war against anybody that's not in the system. So that's what we're seeing in the Middle East right now. The Yemeni Houthis, the Lebanese like Hezbollah, the Syrians, you know, factions of Syria and Iran. they're not in the system, so it's going to be endless war until they submit. So that's the future of, you know, the world if they get their way. It's endless war against anybody that's not in their system. So in the future, you see everybody weighing a Jewish flag. Israel's flag.
Starting point is 02:06:56 No, it'll be branded on your inner part of your right hand. You'll need it to buy food. Right. Yeah. I'm going to kill myself. God damn it. I'm not trying to blackmail. It's fine.
Starting point is 02:07:09 Everything's fine. I've already saw the end. All good. And I don't want to be here. Thanks for coming on. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. It was a damn good show.
Starting point is 02:07:17 Damn good show. Sorry if I made you so.

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