Hodgetwins Podcast - Former Porn Star Exposes The Adult Industry! | Twins Pod - Episode 36 - "Alura Jenson"

Episode Date: October 25, 2024

Elizabeth Spraggins had a long career in the porn industry where she went by the stage name "Alura Jenson." Now she has recently retired and become a born-again Christian. She tells us how she got involved in the industry, the impact porn can have on people's lives, and why people are watching more porn than ever now. Her story is crazy y'all! Get your Twins merch and have a chance to win a 69 Camaro and 10K in cash - https://officialhodgetwins.com/ Get Optimal Human, your all in one daily nutritional supplement - https://optimalhuman.com/ Bet on anything at https://www.mybookie.ag/ and use code "TWINS" to win Double on your first deposit! American-made, top of the line knives - https://dmoknives.com/ Want to be a guest on the Twins Pod? Contact us at [e-mail] Download Free Twins Pod Content - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_iNb2RYwHUisypEjkrbZ3nFoBK8k60CO Follow Twins Pod Everywhere - X - https://twitter.com/TheTwinsPod Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thetwinspod/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/twinspod TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@twinspod YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdg Rumble - https://rumble.com/c/TwinsPod Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/79BWPxHPWnijyl4lf8vWVu?si=03960b3a8b6b4f74 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/twins-pod/id1731232810

Now, you're formerly known as Laura Jensen, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. When did you decide to enter into the porn industry? Oh, boy. You're going to learn all about you. Oh, you guys are in for it today. My journey into making films was a long one.

I actually started when I was 18. I remember, like, when I was 18, all of us went to our first strip club, right? I mean, we used to go to the Assange Ball. What they call the Jack Shacks? Have you ever did a scene and the guy walked in and he's like hung like a donkey? Like, hell no, I'm not doing this. That was my very first professional experience with something like that. That's got to be painful, right?

Extremely. Now you're a born-again Christian. Absolutely. You guys go to our church, right? I haven't been in church of years. A lot, you know. Well, my church is at home. I pray every day.

No, you don't. Yeah, dude. Shut up. Do you think there was some kind of agenda in the porn industry like Satanic? Yes, absolutely. Was there any time any pitch? a scene to you. Yes.

And then you read that pitch, you're like, nope, I'm not doing it. Yes. Yeah, yes. The stepmom thing

was the beginning of the end for me. Step mom? I like a good stepmother thing. And I turn my stomach. What's wrong with you people? You look at this one genre and then that genre gets old

so you keep going and you keep going down the rabbit hole. Well, you know, I was looking at this crazy. Man, I didn't look this crazy. You look at your watch. You're like,

why, I've been looking at porn for 10 hours. Really? He's like, yeah, yeah. It's like shit. You got my respect. I can never look at it for 10 hours. I'm embellishing. You know, time flies by.

I'm like, he's making fun of me, Keith. Yeah, we got Elizabeth Spragans in the house. Got pronounced your last name right? Yes. Spragans. Yes. Okay. Spragans.

Like Bill Bebuggins, but more awesome. Okay. Now, you're formerly known as a Laura Jensen, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. That was a. I want to start with your early life. Sure.

Work through your entire life because now you're a born again, Christian. Absolutely. Okay. So tell us about your early life. Where were you born? Oh, boy. You're going to learn all about you. Oh, you guys are in for it today.

I was born on the East Coast in South Jersey. And I come from a military family. My father was in the Army, and my mom was a registered nurse. Oh, cool. Yeah. Sounds like that. that would probably be a strict family. Yeah.

Especially with your father being in the military. Your mom's a nurse. My father wasn't the strict one, actually. It was my mom, bless her heart. Oh, really? Yeah, she's still, she's actually born again too now. My mom raised as Catholic. And the Catholic Church went to church several times a week,

went to Catholic school, did the whole confirmation, you know, the communion. And that's where I learned to grow up in, Go wild. Oh, okay. I still have some members of my mom and dad going to church. Remember that Keith? And there would be cussing each other out. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. I'm like, where are we going? We're going to church. Why y'all cussing each other out for? All right? There'll be to catch you all. No, it's good. It's all good.

I learned very early on that faith was all about rules and doing the right things. Mm-hmm. And it had very little to do with about God's grace and about the sacrifice of Christ. I never understood what that meant and what whole Jesus on the cross thing had to do until I was 46 years old. I never learned in my heart what that was about. But all of these learning about God has to do with rules and doing the right things, going to the Catholic church and Catholic school. That's how I learned.

I don't mean to offend anybody out there, but that was my experience. meant that if I screwed up, all I had to do was go to confession and say, hey, I'm sorry. Right. So I screwed up a lot. A lot. Really? A lot. Yes.

Yes. In high school too? High school? Yeah. Oh, that's really where it all popped off. Oh, really? Really? I was so shy back in school.

Oh, me and my brother was so shy. Like, if a girl would just look at us, we would take off running. Really? Like weird shy. We were weird. Because we just stuck to each other. We were weird. Same. I was a goofy-looking kid.

Yeah. Like, goofy-looking, yeah. Honestly, really, you guys were shy? Yeah, very shy. Wow, that blows my mind. I was so shy, I was annoying. I wish I'd go back in time, though. Right.

Yeah, I'd do so many things different. I mean, I ain't going to bring this. I was going to tell you something about something that happened in the bathroom with a girl. I was so shy, I just ran out. Ooh, the stories, the stories. I think I was like 16 or 17? Yeah, she was on her knees. I had it out.

And I was like, I can't do this. I was worried that I didn't smell fresh down. Oh, my Lord. I was just a weird, freaking, best wish you could do that over. Yeah. You're a kid. Yeah. You're experimenting.

I didn't lose my virgin until I was 18. Really? Damn that 19. Yeah, me too. Wow. I was 14. Yeah. I wanted to.

I wanted to lose it at 10. Yeah. Wow. I couldn't stick around to do it, you know? I was too scared. My God. See, that's a more proper. That's a more proper influence, I guess.

I was kind of running around wild because I was so goofy and I was bullied, horribly bullied. Oh, we, us too. All the black kids said I was gay. No, they called us Millie Vanilli. Well, they're gay. I don't think they were. Oh, they look gay. They're definitely gay.

They're definitely almost sick. I'm having the weirdest, wildest time, you know, believing that you guys were shy. Yeah, very shy. If I had a, well, we're about to say, mage. If I had a, well, we're about to say me. you could have got me out of it. I probably would have and then repented when I was 46. Yeah, right.

I got some tag to you, Macra. Oh, my gosh. Shut up. I'm just joking, man. Yeah. Wow, so it's like when I was, I was younger, books became my friend. I used to love to read. Me too.

I used to read Ramona Quimby books. Yes, Judy Blume. Yes. Yes, that was the author. Yeah. He was that. Judy Blume is an author that wrote books, the wholesome books to help young men and women grow up

in a way that didn't screw them up in a way. That's why keep turning out better than I do. Maybe. I remember that. So you grew up and you went to the military? No, let's stay in high school for now. Okay. Let's stay in high school.

Oh, yeah, high school. Well, you would have to go into details? Oh, not, dude, you have to get graphics. I mean, but I'm going to learn about her childhood. family show, right? Yeah, we keep a family show. Anything you want to share. Yeah, what was it like going?

Because we want to just like show your journey from childhood, your experiences, and how you became a born-again Christian. It's never too late become a born-again Christian. You have a very beautiful story. I do, actually. I am so grateful to all of the difficult paths that I have chosen to travel before

I knew God's grace. Because those difficulties have exposed me to understanding the very people I feel I'm called to help. So that's, that's, I'm grateful for that. But in high school, I was, um, not, not very welcomed by anybody. Really? You didn't have any friends or? No.

No. No. No. Did that, um, did that cause you to act out with boys? Because when you get attention from boys, it gives you like validation. No. As a woman? No.

No. That, that caused me to dive deep into books. and science and music and dance and being by myself because those things, they kept me company, the sound of music and dance and basically celebration like what I do in the Lord now. That's crazy because you're a beautiful woman. I was like, why didn't have any friends? You grew up in like a black school or something? We're getting there.

Because it's like New Jersey. We're getting around a bunch of diversity. We're getting there. We are. We're getting there. Okay. I did switch schools quite a few times. Yeah.

My moving different places, gosh, I remember at least four high schools, not to mention all the middle schools, elementary schools before that. So I got used to being alone. I got used to not ever having the time to learn to fit in. But I also learned a lot about standing on my own two feet and thinking for myself no matter what other people are doing. And believe it or not, when you are an adolescent or getting used to being seen. social in puberty thinking thinking on your own is not really a good thing but it was a blessing so one day I woke up I was 15 years old I swear to you it happened just like this I woke up one day when I was 15 and I don't know something happened my hips popped out a few extra inches or you know I just had one

less pimple that day but all of a sudden all those people that were really really mean to me they wanted to take me out all of a sudden and these are the people that used to beat me up, you know, steal my books, throw things at me. And all of a sudden they were being nice to me because of how I looked. And I'm like, nah. It's a very superficial world. Yes, yes. But because I had so many years to learn to stand on my own two feet and think independently, it didn't impress upon me as much. Right. So I moved on, again, moved into another school where I... Yeah, military, you're a military brat. So your parents were moving around a lot? Okay. That must have suck, having to make new friends from school to school like that.

It was a blessing and a curse, but because I didn't have any social skills at the time, when people would start bullying me, it was time to move on, and I was grateful. Okay. I met and I met the father of my daughter when I was 15, who was my very best friend, and bless his heart. I don't want to speak out on him because I didn't know I was going to be talking about. him. But he's a good man. You know, 15 years old. And one day, things went sideways as good friends of opposite sexes tend to experiment with. And bam, there's my daughter.

There's my daughter. And, um, I don't, don't feel bad because I got a virgin pregnant, the first try. Congratulations. Yeah, it was an accident. It happens. Sometimes shit happens. Like, wait a minute. You're like, wait a minute. You're You got pregnant the first time you did it? Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Right. She takes as one.

Yeah. Especially 18, you busted them big loads. Shut up, Keith. I mean, you're young and vibrant. 18, you shoot like a cannon. Okay, we get it. Jeez. You're shocked that she got pregnant?

Go forth and multiply, right? Oh, my gosh. Do that. How did she get pregnant? She tripped. She fell? Yeah. It was just like, I thought you had to at least do it like four or five times.

He's stupid. Oh, my goodness. I was a young, dumb, full of come. Young. Yeah. Yeah, so, um, back to you. I,

you know, no, please, I'm just kind of like, what? No better by now. I've been watching your show since forever. Yeah.

Being a team mom, being a team mom, was that difficult? I'm sure it was. Uh, just wanted to get your perspective. it was it was it was a road I was meant to travel um I was advised by my family to not continue the pregnancy and catholic and I was like no I'm not going to do that so I as a 16 year old pregnant

um chose to bring my daughter into the world and raise her by the way she lives here in Vegas now. Shout out to Kathleen Hey girl. Mommy loves you. She just got saved two days ago. Yeah? My baby girl. I'm so excited. You guys go to our church, right? I haven't been in church in years. But my church is at home. I pray every day.

No, you don't. Yeah, do. Shut up. You guys are a trip. I was so nervous to be here. Oh, my goodness. You guys are so much. I'm so glad you came because you got such a beautiful story. Thank you. We just idiots sometimes. You guys are so fun, though.

You have a way of reaching people in their tension. I know that the world is burning down right now. Yeah. And everybody's so tense and so scared. And you got this thing with Verizon happening right now with the outages in the country. Yeah, I heard about that, yeah. I don't know what that's all about. We'll get to that, I hope.

Yeah. I hope we do. Oh, my goodness. Oh, so here I am 16 giving birth at 17. And to my senior year in high school, she was born in September, my last year of high school. I were born in September. 17th, Virgoes. Oh, happy belated birthday.

Oh, thank you. Wow, just a few days ago. Yeah. Hit the big 5-0. That's so awesome. You guys don't look a day over 35. I came in and you told me 50 and I was just like, Jesus, I got to step up my game. I still got it.

I look 35. I feel at 85. Don't we all? Oh, my goodness. Fuck's getting up. It's like crazy. I get up. I'm like, why am I like stuck?

need a few minutes to need a few minutes to have kind of loosen it all up it's crazy I'm like walking like a scarecrow when I get up everything tightens up so you had your first kid at

16 17 17 yeah so you went to the military yes was that a difficult process having a kid almost impossible how did that how did that work out impossible well Well, when I became a single mother at the age of 17, while 16 pregnant, I had to go into foster care.

Oh, what happened with your parents? Is it because of the baby? Is that like a strain there? I was allowed the opportunity to be pregnant without family. Oh, wow. And bring into the world my daughter with no place. to live and no job and no way to survive after I turned 18. So the foster care system in New Jersey shipped me up to Burlington. And you guys are from North, uh, producer. Virginia. Yeah.

Yeah, we're from Virginia. Um, Burlington, uh, was where my pregnant foster home was. And, and then when the, my daughter was born, they shipped me down to Camden. You know what's crazy? It's like, someone at your age, you've got to be a very strong person to go through with that. For your parents to walk away, you have no support. You could have so very easy to went to the abortion clinic and took care of the, but you decided to fight for your child. That's amazing. The group home that I was sent to before being placed in the pregnant foster home offered me the abortion.

And I didn't, I couldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. I mean, being raised my whole life Catholic, abortion is bad. You don't kill babies. okay. At the first opportunity where it's going to affect my life, someone else is telling me to do exactly what they taught me not to do. I refused. My daughter was born and that became a whole other ball of wax of life that I never knew existed. So I went into the military. I had to have my daughter live with friends of the family because my family wouldn't take her.

Wow was that? It was my decision to bring a baby into the world, and it wasn't their burden to bear. Now, mind you, I will not speak ill of my family. I mean, people change. People's mindsets change. People's beliefs change, and that has happened. But at the time, I was told you did this. Now you deal with it.

So friends of the family, they took my daughter in, and they actually boarded me before I was supposed to go to boot camp, which was really wonderful for them. But these same people, while I was in boot camp, you know, after boot camp, in training, and I'm sending my whole paycheck to them. And I'm just like this close to getting assigned my first duty station. They told me that they were going to put her in foster care. And I was like, no, no, you're not. So I went home to go get her.

And that was the beginning of a whole other. bunch of life experiences that taught me to understand sufferings of people just like I used to do you know, I used to be. The father of your daughter, where was he at at the time? He asked me to marry him and I said no because he was walking his own path at the time he he was struggling with addiction um he was he was oh what's the word I don't want to be unkind because he's a good person Right. And people changed. He had his own problems at a time. He was swallowed up by being 17 and, you know, living life as a 17-year-old.

Being 17, that's a disability on its own. It is, though. It is. I remember us when we're 17. Yeah, I should, oh, God. Yeah, I mean, and still to this day, my daughter, she's in contact with her father, and I ask her how he's doing, and he's okay. Stacey's had, you know, other children, and the life is okay for him.

I wish him well. But yeah, he was not in a condition to get married and I was not going to be married to him. Oh, I see. Yeah. So what happens is about nine months later, I got married to somebody else. Oh, okay. Yeah, that was a horrible mistake. It was a horrible mistake because 90 days after, and I'm looking at you. I know you're seeing this right now. Ooh, look at my face. You. He shipped me and my daughter, he was nine months old. at the time across the country. And 30 days after we got to the first duty station, he left me for a 14-year-old girl, married her when she was 15 with written permission of her mother.

Yes. Wow. Yes. Devastated, of course, what am I supposed to do with a nine-month-old baby? And that's when... So now you have two kids. There's just the same one. Oh, the same.

Yeah. So I said no to marrying the baby daddy. but then I married somebody who was in the military with. Oh, I see. And he turned out to be madly in love with a 14-year-old who he then married, yeah, with permission of her mother. Oh, that's great. You have a lot of bad luck with men, I guess.

I was meant to. I was meant to. And that's when I started looking around for ways to make a lot of money very quickly. And that's when my journey into the adult world. Okay, so you decide to get out of the military? Because you've been in, what, like 10 years? First time, that's when I got out the first time. Oh, okay.

And then the second time was years later. That's a whole other ball of wax. Okay, yeah. So you found it hard raising your daughter, and you want to make better money, so that's why you made that career change? I was 18 years old. I had never lived on my own with my daughter without some sort of federalism. Because as a 17-year-old, you're awarded the state.

And then when I was 18, very shortly afterwards, I was shipped off. So I had no idea how what am I supposed to do to pay rent. I got to pay an electric bill. I never had anybody teach me these things. Okay. You must have been very desperate. I was terrified. Yeah.

Terrified. You want to be independent? I wanted to be a good mom. I didn't want my daughter to wind up in foster care because her mother had her too early in life. And I didn't want to be with someone who had a propensity to be in love with underage girls. Right. Do you know if that worked out or not? It did not work out. I could have told you that. It did not work out. And the part about it, and I am holding my tongue right this minute because I'm trying to be a better woman these days.

Right, right. He and she tried for years to have a baby, and she couldn't get pregnant. Okay. So, yeah. So you get out to military and you move to Vegas? No. What did you? Oh, gosh, no.

I landed in California for a minute. Okay. Oh, okay. Oh, California used to be really wonderful. Yeah, we lived in California. Like 15 years. From 94 to 2008, something like that, yeah. Something like that.

It was wow. I love California, but that place is, we grew up. Well, we didn't grow up. We lived in Orange County, California, down there. It's a nice down there. It's a nice area. Yeah. I was down on Imperial Beach before the meth thing, you know, kicked in pretty hard.

By there's a Hilo base on 13th Street right near San Yucidra. I love living there. It was so pretty. Oh, gosh. California is nice. It was. I mean, I make fun of it now because I used to have to travel back and forth for work in the industry. That drive?

Oh, my gosh, that drive. You know, we'll talk off the air about that. Yeah, that traffic is crazy. The four-five, they say never be on a four-five around four-five. That traffic was horrible. Or on days that end in Y. Yeah. Just stay off the road.

You know, we come up with those flying cars. Everything will be fine. It's always burning. The state's always burning down out there. It's on fire. And then they're bringing all their infectious mine garbage to Nevada and seeding themselves here in Vegas, making Vegas, you know, a lot more like California. Right. Oh, go home.

Yeah. Go to New York or something. Right. Or Illinois. New Jersey. Just metastasized and sprint across the country. Yes, they are, aren't they? They are.

Oh, my gosh. It's like everything crappy that happens in the United States. happens in the testing grounds of California and New York first. And then they go to other smaller, you know, liberal areas like what, Chicago or Detroit or even Houston. And they just, they'd like to see how people are going to react before they go widespread with it. Right.

And I'm like, no, no, you're going to have to try harder because there are a lot of independent thinkers walking around these days who are so wise to this now. They're not falling forward anymore. Yeah, I think so, too. Yeah. So when did you come to, when did you decide to enter into the porn industry? What was that process like? Should we call it the dope film industry?

I, I, I, see, prefer one or the other? My journey into making films. Okay, films. Films was, was a long one. I actually started when I was 18. And I had just gotten divorced from my first husband. I hope he sees this Oh, he's watching us right now

I hope he is too Because you'll never be as good as anybody That God barked to me after you I'm joking I'm joking Oh my goodness Lord forgive me He um I started dancing

I started dancing But not not full time in the United States I started going across the border to Tijuana Where there are fewer rules And fewer regulations see for those of you out there who aren't in the industry or who know about it, you know, dancing, grown up dancing. I don't know who's watching your show.

I want to make this like Facebook Aoki dokey. That's all good. But there are certain rules that women who dance in the United States have to follow, and they don't have those rules in Tijuana. What were those rules? A lot of them are, a woman has to have one foot on the ground all the time. she has to be a certain number of inches away from the person being entertained. Certain attire has to be a part of the experience.

See, I'm with you. I believe in freedom. That's California right now. I believe in First Amendment. That don't sound like freedom anymore. Yeah. And then when you go to, you went to Tijuana, everybody did that is in the strip clothes. It's American Marines.

Military. Yes. And you know that when they're going into Tijuana on the weekends, they're bringing all the money there. All the money. I left Tijuana broke many times. Right. And I was one of those girls that love that you did. Yeah.

I love that you did. Oh, I had a blast. That was my first experience. And it was fantastic. It was actually it was really seductive. The money that it was so easy to make. How much was it? How much were you making a week?

Oh, let's say a weekend. A night. Oh, God. Back then, what I made back then is different than what I used to. Right, inflation. Right. Inflation, right. But it was definitely enough to take care of a baby and an apartment and, you know, food and stuff like that.

Like if you could compare it today, yesterday, you know, then and now, how much you would say, if you could quantify, how much money were you making in today's dollars? Oh, my Lord. Well, I got better at it. I got really, I got really, really good at getting money out of people. Oh, yeah? I did. And it's not something I'm necessarily proud of. Yeah, take it all.

Right. And that was, that was the end result expected and commanded from people was, was to drain them and then make them bleed a little bit of what they didn't have into my hands. And that is a mindset. Writ money. So you like a casino? I was. Yeah.

I was. And I was exceptional at it, especially coming to Vegas. and I fit right in. I fit right into Las Vegas. Everybody will kiss your rear end for a dollar here. Literally, literally a dollar. I mean, yeah. Oh, my goodness.

So maybe back then, I suppose $500 back in the 90s was a good day, especially when my rent was only $400 at the time for a little apartment. So now rent today in California, I was driving my wife. I was like, man, it's like 25, 3,000, 4,000 for one bedroom. Yeah. So in today's terms, you was making like $4,000 a night. Yeah, I wound up making that here in Vegas, though.

Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah. And I don't want to, I don't want to out anybody because I'm not about that. But I, when I started working as a dancer in Vegas, I started adopting really bad habits. What was those habits? Yeah. I plead the fifth. Okay.

I plead the fifth, but I, um, I observe those habits to make a large amount of money. And get extra tips of them bad habits. Lots, lots, mortgage payments with those bad habits. Yeah. Yeah. And so it's like dudes is busting nuts at this point. Well, you shut up. That's what it's, uh, I'm giving up my mortgage payment. Bustin nuts.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just comes to territory. Right. Guys are, like, sexually stimulated. I remember, like, when I was 18, I was in Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. All of us went to our first strip club, right? Yeah.

And just, I remember about sitting out looking and girls up at dancing, stripping. I'm looking at all the guys, and it's just like. Yeah. Right. Dude's just grabbing the, I mean, it's like, guys are like. I mean, we used to go to the massage ballers. Yeah. So as you get paid.

Hey, hey, Hajj, I'm going down to the. What they call the jackshacks? Hey, man, no, man. I need my money, man. I need to send it back on to my mama. This dude, as soon as he got paid, he would go. And I went one time with him. And it's, it's, I was 18 years old from a small country town.

I'm like a country hit. I can see them. I'm in the city, right? And this big tall black guy, his name was, well, I'm going to say his name was Keith. Right? And he's about six foot seven, right? Yeah. So he's real cool dude, right?

And he always made me laugh. Right. I was still shot back in those days. So we're going to this, this, this Jack Shack, right? And they have this menu. Jack Shack. Yeah, they have this menu. It says vanilla surprise, chocolate supreme. And he comes, he walks in and says, give me some of the vanilla and I want some of that chocolate, right? Okay.

I'm like, I'm so uncomfortable, right? Did you know what it was about? Yeah, I knew what was going on, but I'd never been to a place like this before. So I get a girl. He gets two girls. Damn. He goes into a room right right beside me. I can hear him talking. I hear him, I hear him undo his pads and his belt buckle.

And the girl's like, oh, my God. I know you're talking about. I went to the bathroom. And he took a, man, that dude was hung like a horse. I've seen those. Yeah, he could put out and he's like, like this is the urinal. He's like, I'm like, dude, what the hell do you do with that? You had to hear the two girls react.

And it's like, oh, my God. Need all four hands to make that work, right? Yeah. Oh, my love. I just wanted to share it. I thought it was funny. Wow. Yeah, great story, Kim.

Thanks, Kevin. I like you were saying, I'm sorry. Wow, I think I worked with him in my previous life. Yeah. I got to ask you, does the size matter? No. It don't? No, it doesn't.

Don't tell key fat. Well, I'm just going to put this out there. As somebody who's seen the entire spectrum of male anatomy, now that I'm walking in God's grace, I can say that I have seen the entire spectrum of anatomy. And if a woman knows what she's doing with her own needs and her own anatomy, she can make any size work. Oh, okay. And it's about the man and his attitude, making it enjoyable for the woman.

It's the motion in the ocean. Yeah, you know, people make fun and they make jokes about that, but it's absolutely true for me. I mean, is there a size that makes everything easier? One that doesn't bust a woman's back out, but one that's enough to feel. Yeah. Right. Somewhere in the middle is awesome.

You just don't pull out a chode. Goodness. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my God. No, that's not enjoyable. Not enjoyable. Is that what that is? Is that what a chode is?

I could even get into it. I don't know what a chode is. So is that how you made that transition from dancing to adult films? Over time. Yeah. Over time because I... How long did it take you from dancing to go into adult films?

I was... That's just like a gateway into that, right? Stripping. It was for me. It was. Especially when you develop bad habits. I can go over and do this legally. Shut up.

Yeah. That's exactly... That was exactly what I said. When I was discovered in the club where I was working here in Vegas, that was my first thing. I can do this legally and get paid and not go to jail. Awesome. Let's do that instead.

It's funny how that works. You do a movie, it's legal, but if you do it on a street or in your own home, that's illegal. Does that make sense? Except in Perump. Yeah, it's just... In Perump, yeah. Right.

Yes, I don't know. Like, I'm conservative politically. Sure. But a lot of things, when I look at, I'm kind of liberal. Like, I think a man and a woman should be able to do that. even if it's prostitution, just between consent and adults. Even though I'm a Christian,

I just think the government shouldn't be involved in that. They should regulate it. You have to be tested and make sure you're not the outbreak monkey spreading diseases. But I don't think that should be... Yeah, I think a lot of judicial system, I think, is made, for the most part, incarcerate people, like marijuana.

Some of these things are just stupid while we're throwing people in jail for this. Right. It doesn't make sense. Why they incarcerate people for minor offenses is because when they're not doing these, you know, these outrageous minor offenses, they're big thinkers. Right. And big thinkers are independent of a system that was developed to control them. Right.

From thinking independently and spreading that independent thinking to other people like them. Oh, my goodness. So bad habits. Vegas went from dancing to making films. Oh, I had a blast. Oh, my gosh. Do you know, let me ask you this. Did she know me and Keith went to a porn audition?

Really? Man, why would she know that? I might. I might know it. We didn't keep actually went to a porn audition. Really? Chief Coats. Back in those time.

No, this is my story. We went there because I did this. All right, we was living in Orange County, California. And there was an ad in the paper. I was looking for a job. And it was an adult section in the classifieds in Orange County, register. And it says, adult film work.

Called a number and set up an interview. So be a chief with the job. And I took him with me. Yeah. Right. So we go to this place. And it was a couple hot chicks at the door. And we had to take pictures and stuff. Right? And they gave us some applications.

So I'm like full of a job application, right? And Dennis Duke comes in, goes and the hot Asian chick takes them in the room. Oh my Gosh. Right. So I'm in and I fill out my application and then I hear this dude going, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, that's like, we're like listening as we feel this out.

I'm like, did that dude just bust his nuts? They need to see what your ability is. Right. And yes, your command of yourself. Yes. So the dude comes out. We just stop and we just look at him. This dude is big red in the face.

There's a big fat. White dude. Oh, that's gross. Because it was funny. It was quiet. We were just putting out of an application

looking at each other like, should we do this? And then all of a sudden we go, ah, oh, oh,

I'm like, you remember that? It was like, you just, yeah. So me, when it came time for me and

Keith before him, I couldn't do it. That was two shots. We left. We left. So we took some pictures with a shred-off. No,

but we left. We was like, man, what if mama sees this? my mom was still alive my mama didn't watch porn but my cousins do so I know they were short to mama so we left I needed the money too

it was broke we was damn there homeless we got calls for like once after that we had pagers and there was calls every day you got work for you got work for you oh you guys didn't think about

like getting into modeling because you're good looking you know good looking men yeah I think all those people are getting no I needed something quick oh I wanted to the release and make some quick easy care.

I understand. I understand. Anyway, we just wanted to share that with you. I appreciate that. I want to take that home and ponder on that. Oh, don't forget that day. It was so fun. That dude was in now.

It was like, so bizarre. Yeah. Got our new giveaway. You asked for it. We got it. Man, this is a 69. Chevro Camaro.

We give away American muscle here. This is actually a race car. standard six-speed Yanco version did you tell him had a 540 big block in it it's got over 700 horsepower in now did you hear that this car got over 700 horses that's crazy how did they get 700 horses up under the hood that's that white American engineering right now that's what founded this country go to festerhardtwinns.com anything you buy the site get you out of back and it'll win Some of the same roads, but we're up in Sherman Oaks.

Yeah. I've been there many times. Yeah, we've up in Shurban Oaks looking for work. I felt like an illegal immigrant up there in front of Home Depot looking for work. Well, if you were an illegal there, no, you'd be getting a credit card, a phone, a place to live, housing, maybe even a new car. Money to buy a house. Money to buy a house. A video on TikTok.

Oh. They showed immigrants buying that new house that was, you know, provided to them from the government. Newsom? Yes. Which is crazy. No, no, it's from an immigrant that came here. They actually supplied them a home, the money to down payment and everything. Yes, they do.

Yes, they do. Why do you think they're doing that? It's to import potential that will be forced to oblige when, you know, I said this, many years ago. I don't know if you guys followed. I don't know if you go, oh, hi. I don't know if you guys followed my, my ex page. Shout out to Elon Musk for saving the world, right? Yeah. But I said this years ago, when I first started waking up and I started noticing things, I would speak on it. And the whole border crossing thing, I'm like, those are all military-aged men. Those are all fighting aged men. You see, very few women and children,

coming with them. Right. Why would they need to do that? And then I'm seeing the whispers and the chatter about the UN being staged, with weaponry being staged and with, you know, plans to import millions of people at the time. They're like, no, come on. Millions of these people coming through the border, a few thousand, maybe they'll shut it down, right?

No, they certainly did not. Why would they need to do that? Because the people were waking up to their lies and the people that, They were going to be financing would need to continue supporting them in order to continue getting that financing. So they're importing voters. Right. It wasn't a big leap for me. But it blows my mind, you guys.

It blows my mind that there are so many people out there that still refuse to believe this. I know. We call them Democrats. Yes. You know what's funny? Like black people like, we're a black right. We used to be the number two demographic in this country. Back when the whole civil rights area was going and Martin King and all that was going on, it was.

It was blacks were number two in the country. Yeah. Black people don't even realize it that they've been overtaken now. That's why they let all the Latinos in. They're the number two demographic in this country now. Right. It's not black people. Well, they are about to become, they're about to become next place to all of the people

coming in from the Arab countries and from China and from our not friends from over there. Mm-hmm. Yeah. What do you think that major goal is? To make it impossible for us to fight back. when they do what they mean to do very soon. Right. They are going to have their own fighting force

and their own hired fighting force who they're supporting with our tax dollars. So when we stand up and say, no, we're not going to stand for this, they're going to have millions of people all around all 50 states who are going to be called to do what they were hired,

imported to do, which is to make us sit down and take it. It's not going to go very well. Yeah. They're trying to make them all citizens. voters, everything. Can you guys explain that to me? Because is it illegal for people who are not citizens to vote?

That's what I thought. But they give them IDs. They letting people vote without an ID. I see what their goal is. It's like money sent all those immigrants from Haiti to Ohio. They were replacing, displacing all those people that live there. They drove up the rent, cars. Everything is very expensive.

So now the citizens of the country can't even afford it. Now these people are going to be able to vote. They're going to be able to vote. And it's replaced that Republican vote. That's why they put them there. How is this not treason? Yeah, it's illegal. I understand them send it to like a sanctuary city, like New York, California.

But why are you sending these people to red areas? But they don't stand for this. Because they're a threat. Yeah. They are the deciding factor between them succeeding and, you know, them losing their job and their pay pig, you know, after the election, which is all this is about is money. Right.

And it's disgusting to me that they are willing to destroy such a beautiful thing. Yeah, we're a mess, but it's our mess. It's not their mess. It's our mess. And it's our voices that decide what kind of a mess we're going to have. And they're giving that voice away to people that don't live here. They don't sacrifice. raise families and toil and, you know, contribute to the society, which they're going to come in

and just, I don't even know what. The biggest thing I hate about it, too, is when they come here, I'm just here to make money. Right. I was like, no, you're supposed to come here. The first thing that come out of your mouth is I want to be in America. Right. Nope, I'm here to make money. I'm going to take all my money.

I'm going to send it back on to my people. Do it online. And then they wave their flags all over the place. I was like, they incentivizing the leeches of the world to come here. They emptied their prisons. I have read so many stories about Venezuela. Venezuela, emptying their prisons, taking the worst people that they have

that have infected and destroyed their country and they're getting rid of them to rebuild under their new government over there. And I'm like, why? Why? What have we done? We've got enough pieces of garbage running around making it difficult for us to live how we want to live. Why do we need to take theirs too?

Right. And then give them the money that we are not sending to Ukraine. that we're not sending to people that we didn't give permission for our money to be given to. I mean, but now we're giving it to them too. And these are the people that are ripping things up and burning things down. No, go home. Yeah. At the end of the day, they look like they're just treating us like with cattle.

Yeah, it's exactly what. It's kind of like back in the medieval times when you'd have kings, and they would have tax collectors sitting on the corners, you know, pay your tax. But then what do they do with that? Hey, what is this green stuff? Well, it's our sponsor. Hey. Shake it up before you drink it.

Optimal human. Optimal human. It's got all kinds of vitamins and minerals and vegetables and fruits and... Really? You even got stuff for your... I ain't going to say it. Trust me, there's no cats and dogs in that drink. Let somebody try to come up in my house and take my dog.

No, we are a two-a household. We'd have a gun because they got machetes. I got more than that. I got a husband from Texas. Oh, okay, there you go. That's all I need to know. He ain't playing no games. Hey, have you always been, um, it sounds like you, to me, that you mean conservative.

Have you always been that way or? No. No. And that's, that's something I really, I really want to impress upon people. And I'm so grateful to you guys for inviting me here. I voted Democrat my whole life. Us too, same here. Right.

Last time I voted for Democrat was Obama. Right. Same. I voted for him twice because I thought I didn't know any better. I thought, okay, cool. this is change, right? Because racism had been a topic of discussion. My whole life.

I mean, my first child is mixed. I was going to ask you that. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to ask what popped in my mind when you said. I know that black guys saw you. Yeah, yeah. I got me a white girl. Shut up. I'm telling you. Black guys? See, now, I want to. No, black guys see

white women's like trophies. Yeah. I've made it. I got a white woman. But when you broke that up about your parents, turning your back on you and your child. I wanted to ask you, but I didn't want to dig so too deep. And I was like, I went up if the child was black because it makes sense you in New Jersey. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, do you think that was the reason why they didn't want you to have a child? I believe that because so much earlier in my exposure to the world, I had gotten so into books that my potential to achieve was. so amplified in their eyes that having a baby at 16, you know, pregnant 16, 17, 17 becoming a mom that changed all that. I think that might have had more to do with it. Probably didn't help. I'm not going to say it didn't, although I would never disrespect my family like that.

It's just the way things were different. I remember when I was, because we grew up in Virginia and born in. 74 and I remember in the middle 80s we had white friends because we lived in a poor white neighborhood and I met my friend Scott would he would play with us but was it Scott I think it was another kid it was another kid was another kid wasn't Scott he was one of my white friends but um his name was Randy Randy his name was Randy right and then um I mean we was playing and then his daddy called him up the hill and I was like and he went to up to his dad and I looked like he was arguing. I was just a little kid. I'm just wanting

Randy to come back so we can play kickballs tomorrow, right? So Randy come down here. I said, what was it all about? My dad said he doesn't want me playing with niggers. Yeah. He said that. Yeah. See y'all later. I got to go. He said that. Wow. I remember going to my friend's house, his name was G.B. And then he had a fence. There was some grapes on the fence. Yeah. I would just, it was like me and G. We just eating the grapes. Right? Right. I was like, man, these damn grapes are good, Ghib. They're good. Yeah, and as white dude say,

stop eating my grapes, you fucking nitty. I haven't heard that word in so long. Yeah, I've heard it. Man, I heard that. I heard it a lot growing up. I'm from Virginia. I'm south of Virginia. So I got called the Inwear a lot.

Wow. I think the world's progressed a lot. I've been called a green-eyed spear trucker. What does that mean? I guess that. I was hanging out with G. G.B. I was hanging out with G.

We were taking with G.B. Shoulda knew it was coming. They had a rebel flag up. They was drinking Paps blue ribbon beer. And they said we was funny-looking Negroes because we had green eyes. Really? Yeah. So they called us a green-eyed spear chucker. That blows my mind. It does me. I fucking live that shit.

I don't understand. Southern Virginia was like that. But I think times have changed. And I think that's probably a lot. Like what you experienced, maybe with your family and, yeah. Maybe. The kid. Because that wasn't too common The biracial families

It's like a stigma Yeah It was definitely something I saw But for me it was just me and my daughter Right And my baby, she grew up so pretty She's got, I'm a grandma now Oh yeah

Oh really? I have two, she has two of my grandbaby She's been married to a wonderful man Shout out to Jordan Hey Jordan, thanks for being good to my daughter Yeah, and it goes joy Yeah And they live here in Vegas

and oh such a happy story and despite the fact that their mother was a you know a dirt bag for so many years they'd all turned out okay why you think he was a dirtbag I was I was yes and that see that's part of the story of becoming saved is acknowledging God's grace and how far out of the darkness his forgiveness and grace can pull someone is there are people how many countless countless people around the world let alone in law Vegas who are living that life, who think that they're too far gone. The things they've done are just unforgivable. Can you give us an example of something dirt bag that you did? I would be very careful about what I say because I know that you are across multiple platforms. Oh yeah, it's easy to offend a conservative.

Right. Who gives a shit? I don't care. Right. This is just us having an adult conversation. If you can't handle an adult conversation, you don't need to be. Yeah, right. The Bible's filled with violence. It is, though. He drowned a bunch of people because he wouldn't listen.

I mean, relax. Right. And then you got that girl, Rehab. Rehab. Yeah. You hear about, I identify as this and that. I'm like, no, no, no, I'm the lady by the well. I'm the lady with the scarlet ribbon.

I'm all of that. Right, right. And he, you know, they still made it. But some of the things that I re, I held on to for a really long time. Of course, the personal entertainment for money, that was the scandalous entertainment for money. That was something that I thought was unforgivable. Because in my head, when a man and a woman are together like that, they become married. Right, right.

So my whole lifetime, I can't count to you how many husbands I should have by now. Right. And I thought that that was just all kinds of adultery and unforgivable. But then when I started to do it for money, that to me became even more unforgivable. Right. And then I figured to heck with it. If I'm this deep into sin, I might as well have a fun ride with it. And I did.

And then I started to do things like take advantage of people. You could do a lot to a guy when you're just. You can totally take it. You can manipulate their tail out of them. And even more when they're intoxicated or high. Yeah. And I was really efficient at having men part with their money when they were not in the right frame of mind to make that decision. Well, they put themselves in that position.

They did. I mean, they were having fun, believe it or not. They did. Just to be in your presence. I mean, they're actually paying for your companionship, too. And my sparkling personality more than stole the show. tell you that. But it all, believe you me, ladies and gentlemen out there who were like, you are an evil woman, it all bit me right in the ass. It did. All of this, all of this sin and all

these things that I chose to do to all these men to make this money and to have a good time because I thought it was unforgivable. It all bit me right in the butt. Yes. I mean, I'm now on a different walk and that is only because of God's grace. But it did come back and bite me because now I can't move forward in life in a way that I'm trying to live to glorify God without constantly being battered by what I used to do. And that's something I'll always have to face. Who's doing that battering conservatives? Everyone. Everyone does it. Oh, definitely conservatives. Yeah. Conservatives. Oh, you'll definitely. But everybody's stigmatized and demonizes what she's about a word. Yeah. Yeah. It's been two years since I retired. Two years. And they, they

I still refuse to accept the fact that I no longer exchange companionship for money or film work for money. And even as far as to not call me by my name, which is Elizabeth. A lot of people don't know my name's Elizabeth. They still think it's a Laura. It's not. It's Elizabeth. My mama gave me that name. I'm named after my grandmother.

Oh, okay. Mm-hmm. And bless her heart, may she rest in peace. Yeah. It was a lot of fun, though, huh? But the former life I used to live, I had a blast. I had a blast. And in fact, I never would have left had current events not unfolded.

Because what had happened with the current events was the doorway that I needed to see in order to be curious what was on the other side. Because I'm living all this life. And at the time, I'm drinking heavily, not not dysfunctionally, but heavily on my, my time, my free time. And I think I'm having a blast in life. I'm going to work, you know, making a movie, coming home, having an appointment, right? Or two or three or whenever, how many.

I get it. The appointment. I get it. Appointments. Making all kinds of money, you know, taking care of my household and other households in need at the time thinking, I'm doing good work because I'm giving back, right? And then I see this commercial in TV. I'm going to say maybe 2019, right?

Oh, yeah. That's when this party started for me. But I didn't actually open that door until the day after the election. And I was instantly hit with a hand in my chest that said something's not right. We know that that's not right. Something really, really bad happened between the time I went to sleep at 1 o'clock in the morning and the time I woke up to see the cell. celebration that didn't happen, right?

Something happened. And that's when my brain was like, well, what else isn't right? So I had not yet, I had not yet decided to walk a different path, but I started paying more attention. And then COVID hit. And I'm like, oh, no, this is, I'm done. I'm done. You speak in the election.

Yes. Yes. Oh, my gosh. What a nightmare that was. I went to sleep. I said, wow, Trump's got this. Right. So did I. It was a done deal.

I voted for the guy. I did. No matter how unpopular that might be in entertainment circles, I don't care. I'm not one of you anymore. Kiss my butt. Yeah, and that line of work everybody is like pretty much Democrats. They need to pretend to be because the people who are paying for the productions and signing the paychecks, they are. But the people that they contract, the people that work from, believe me, believe me when I tell you guys, there are so many silent conservatives. or libertarians in the entertainment industry

that are terrified to say anything because they'll lose work. Right. Yeah, that term conservative, when people, like, when conservatives talk about conservatives, you think of evangelicals, right? But conservative, I think they, that's not what a true conservative is.

I mean, yeah, there's a section of conservatives who are evangelicals. That's a Christian conservative. They're Christian conservatives, but conservatives is nothing more than being somebody who sees the Constitution as their religion, their Bible. Right. That's what I see, a conservative.

Really? You have Christian conservatives, but then you have conservatives who want to stand by what the founding fathers want, the Constitution. I stand by. I think if you're gay, you're transgender, everybody could be a conservative. Not a Christian conservative. Not a Christian conservative, but they could be conservative because when I think of conservatism, all it is is common sense.

I mean, I know I'm going to piss off a lot of Christians by saying that. Do it. But I'm saying if you want to really save our country, everybody has to be welcomed to the conservative movement. So far, Republicans and conservatives are very good at marketing.

They are good at marketing, but they're also... I mean, very bad at marketing. They don't try to influence everybody because conservatives, I mean, gays can help save your country too, just like blacks can, just like the white evangelical Christian can.

All of us can help save its country just like they only try to influence one demographic of people. And right now, Now, that's okay because the majority of the population of America is white, but over time, this country's less or less or white, that's not going to go into a job. You know, just kicking a can down the road. We can kick the can down the road while we juggle with the other hand.

I can tell you that they're going after certain groups of people because they're the biggest threat. I believe that in my heart. And as far as conservatives go, and the people, that are still left to be welcomed if the United States and conservatives or Christian conservatives really want to powerhouse this effort that we are about to need to have, start reaching out to people like me who are previously unwelcome because of things that we may have done. And they... I think you have a beautiful story.

They should welcome you with open arms because you are born again Christian, but a lot of conservatives don't look at it that way. And those type of conservatives make me sick to my stomach. Yeah, they think they judge during execution. They can think that because it's their opinion doesn't matter to how. Why do you think, I've noticed this about Christians. I'm Christian. Why do you think so many Christians used a Bible to,

instead of bringing us together, they use it to divide us? Because they don't understand what being saved really means. When you understand, and this took me until I was 46 years, years old to actually have a click in my head what this meant. It is not up to someone to batter and berate and bully someone and to following the rules. It is up to us to lead people to finding that relationship. And it's not about a set of ceremonies. It's about Christ died so that when our bodies die, our souls will then be free to go to heaven. He died so that we can have a relationship with God right now. That's amazing. And this, this Holy Spirit,

yo, I want to talk all about him because he's always in my face. Oh, he's a trip too. Yeah, yeah. He's a trip. They don't understand the people that, and I've heard it called legalism, and I'm still newer. So I don't know all the technical lingo, but people that come at you with specific scriptures and rules, not simply to encourage a lost person, but just, just to batter them to look important or to feel important at someone's expense, they don't really get it because it's an act of love to help someone find the right path. Not, you know, we're supposed to treat people how Christ would treat us. Right, yeah, right.

And the legalism thing scares me. I don't ever want to do that to somebody. Right. They're always like, you're bad, bad, bad, they never look at the good. Right. But how would, what condition would we be in if Christ treated us like that? Yeah. Right, we'd be a mess.

Be in a lot of trouble. Oh, my goodness. Hey, you mentioned about the people who writes the checks in the porn industry. Is it true or not? Is the executives and porn, is a lot of them just happen to be Jewish? Was that something I just heard incorrectly? I, I'm trying to think. I was in film work for about 11 and a half years.

I don't recall one that was. Oh, okay. Maybe they were, maybe they were private about their faith because an adult film set is not somewhere people talk about God. Right, right. Like, how about, well, I'm not too familiar with entertainment industry. But a lot of people's always said or shared the belief that a majority of people Hollywood or everything is owned by Jewish people.

But I don't, what is that? I mean, I understand that there's a need to filter out the cancer that is causing problems. But when we begin segregating a specific group of people, we are including in that specific group of people, those who don't agree with them. So I think it's really important to be careful about just saying, not you guys, but people out there, I'm seeing this. And I'm like, that's not right either. Because if we as people who have a faith or we have people who believe America should be a certain way, and they're all grouping us into this one thing, like we all want the open borders or we all want our tax dollars to go to Ukraine, no, no, we do not.

Right. Then how is that fair to those people of the Jewish faith who don't agree? Right, right. But I don't think that the entertainment industry in Hollywood is very much different than the adult entertainment. industry. There are people out there who are quiet because they have to be. And I've seen, oh, you guys, I have seen so many Hollywood, you know, members come forward and just be like, you know what, if this is what it's going to be, I'm out. I'm done. I don't want anything to do with this. You guys are evil. And, you know, go on and be about yourself because I'm going to go over here while you guys

are rotten in hell. Right. Right on too. Yeah, they're supposed to be tolerable, but they're the They're not. They're not tolerable. And I think they specifically target the people who feel like their lives don't mean anything unless they're on the rah, rah, rah, ra train. See, when you are confident in your place and in what you believe and you know that your beliefs are right and just, you don't need to go out and find something to fight for. That is not your fight. Right. You know, and of course, if it's like, you know, so much as blowing up a child's hospital, you're going to have something that's. say about it. But burning down a neighborhood because somebody on the other side of the country said something or did something and I'm kind of like, what?

It doesn't make any sense, huh? That doesn't make any sense. That doesn't make any sense. Call them Democrats. Yeah. They're talking about these white liberal women, right? And I don't know. They're like the worst, right? No, the worst is the black liberal women. I've seen more black liberal

women turning a page. I've seen it. I've seen it. Yeah, I have a black friend that just turning a page. He's voting for Trump. And he was the biggest. He was a Kaepernick fan. He's a Kappanick fan. He's probably still a Kappanick fan. So he doesn't really know football then. But he's voting for Trump. Yeah. So people are changing. People are. And even my daughter, the one I told you, who was baptized two days ago. Oh my goodness. Yeah, she and I didn't speak for a couple years because our beliefs were so drastically different. Oh, political? Yes. And I believe in the bottom of my heart that that's happening everywhere. Yeah. That people, after so many years, now everyone's suffering. They're suffering and this, this fantasy that life was going to be a certain way if they

decided they would behave according to the people causing trouble. No, no, it's not true. Everybody's life is going to suck and it does now. There are people are coming around. they're making some changes. And I can't wait. Yeah. Oh, I can't wait. That's going to be so exciting. Yeah.

Do you think there was like a... You think there was some kind of agenda in the porn industry like Satanic? Yes. Yeah? Absolutely. Absolutely. I think Kenneth Owens talked about that. There's like a...

There's an agenda in the porn industry. It was Satanic. Yes. Yeah, I'll be honest with, I've struggled with porn addiction since. Mm-hmm. You know what? I joke about sex a lot. Sure.

And I think the reason both of us do that is because we was exposed to pornography when it was like, what, 9-10? Yeah, even younger. We found these dirty magazines. And it was just, it just sit me on a different path. It took the stigma away from sex and all of that. All those pictures outside. It's like, it's crazy. I want some of it.

You know? And ever since. Dan, you know, and you grew up in 80s. So. That was back when magazines were sort of fancy and the pictures were glamorous. Oh, man, it was amazing. Now it's just a snapshot taken from a video reel. Now, I'm kidding.

I've been in a couple magazines. I'll just fake. You know, the one thing, if a man or a woman, if they're solid in their beliefs, almost every person can be reached through their arousal. because it's a biological function. Right. I believe that if you stimulate someone intimately, it derails everything else that they hold firm in.

And in that moment, yes, yes, and they depend on that, which is why I believe pornography is so easy to be distributed now because they need the people like you and the people, you know, like who I feel I am now. They need you to be derailed in moments of stress and tensions so you don't stay laser focused on the man behind the curtain and what he's up to. Yeah. Yeah.

That's a beautiful statement. Thank you. Yeah. I have more. Yeah. Do you, I think we come from the mindset that sexuality is, it can be taught. Like, some people are born straight or gay. I fairly believe that.

Yes. But the majority of us, your sexuality is depend on what you was exposed to while you were growing up. I have a friend belief that. Me and Kevin was adopted. Well, my dad went gay and left my mom and he had a gay lover and we lived with him and we grew up under his household. We would be gay. Maybe.

I mean, that's possible. Yeah. I agree with you, though. I believe that a person's adult sexuality is the result of their introduction into being physically aroused. Yeah. I think a person's first physical arousal

sets the path for how they believe sex should happen as an adult. Yeah, just like pedophilia. The kids that go through that, when they grow up, they end up doing it to kids themselves. Or they kill themselves. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I came across several TikTok videos,

and I think they killed themselves because they, that's been built into their brain, and now they're craving it. Right. I think that's why they end up doing that. Right. But I've noticed, these two gay men.

I mean, they're like, I have nothing against gay people, right? But I see a lot of gay men. I see a lot of transgender women, transgender men. I'm seeing they're adopting these kids. And when I look at the videos, they're, like, showing these kids they adopted, like, they're trophies. Like it validates them in their lifestyle. Part of the costume. Yeah.

Yeah. They make the kids part of their costume. Right. And I was like, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me why a gay man or two gay men or two gay women would want to have a child and raise them as a family. And when I look at the videos, these people showing these children, it's almost like they're parading them to show you that I'm normal, that I'm. So what does that tell you? Yeah. What does that tell you when they feel the need to have? a child to feel normal. Right. That without that child, they feel what?

Feel empty. Right. Why is that? Yeah, because they are empty. Right. And I... You're going to ruffle a lot of feathers today. Yeah, I really, like, if you want to, I believe marriage between a man and a woman, but if the state wants to marry two men, two women,

so be it as, I believe in separation of church and state, but I do not really... I shouldn't call it a marriage. It should be called civil years. Yeah, I strongly believe that gay parents, should not raise children. They should not be able to adopt children. You can have your own children if you want to go out and do it the right way,

but you shouldn't be able to adopt children. You know, I'm a soul believer that. I hate when I come across these videos, these people are taking other people's children and then indoctrinate them with this nonsense. Yeah, and they tell them they're a boy, when they're a girl at the age of three, and they're doing it. It's just sick.

I actually saw a transgender man on TikTok. trying to breastfeed his child. That made me sick. I saw that. Yeah. And nothing happens to these people. Yeah. Lord, come back tomorrow.

I meant back in a day for you to adopt a kid, you had to have a stable household, a mother and a father, both had to have incomes. You couldn't be living in poverty. Now it seems like you just give these kids to anybody. Mm-hmm. There's no requirements. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, boy. I would like to speak on that. Yeah. There's no easy way to talk about it either. There isn't, but that's what you guys are all about there. You guys are all about touching on the difficult topics. Yeah, I do not like that at all.

I think they can have kids if they go about getting like... Right, but adopting kids, but adopt them is a big no for me. Personally. I know gay couples that are wonderful to their children, but the majority that I see on the internet, the published stories and photos and videos are people who sexualize their children in one way or another by exposing them too early to sexuality.

And children, like it says in the Bible, it says you come of age of awareness, right? There's such a thing. It's coming of age of awareness. When a child is ready to start making that decision to become aware, then it's their place to begin making these decisions about how they feel about sex or sexuality. But someone forcing that upon them before they are of age to be aware to make that decision is wrong.

It is dead wrong. Right. And it's all I'm seeing is these celebrities, they're parading their children around as accessories, as fashion accessories. Like they're being good minions and transforming their children, you know, with excuses and all sorts of stories. And the child isn't even old enough to tie its shoes yet. Right.

You mean to tell me that your three-year-old has decided it wants to be. Yeah. Right. You know, oh, my gosh. The son came in and told me at three, he was a girl. I was like, yeah, that's just weird. It's like when you become an adult, you can do whatever you want. Right.

But I was like, they're pushing in some kids. Children. And that has very much to do with why I retired. That has almost everything to do with why I got out. why I said, I'm not going to do this anymore. I'm going to make a huge change in my life. I need to figure out how to do that. But for right now, I'm just, I'm done.

That's got to be tough because I'm assuming you were making a lot of money. Huge. And then just to cut that off overnight, it's a huge decision. It was. But I heard a voice so, so profound and it was so undeniable. But I didn't hesitate for a second to say, okay. I said it out loud, okay. And I came home and I talked to my husband

after being overseas and I said, baby, this is this is the strangest thing I got to tell you about this and this is what my heart says and he supported me 100%. But I started looking after the election back in 2020. I started looking into things that were questionable to me, things that they were trying to cram down people's throats didn't sound quite right. And I started doing research. Now, you know, one particular popular search engine is all about making sure you get the information they want you to get. Right. And then out came this other search engine, which we thought was going to be pretty cool, but it turns out their compromise too. Right.

So I asked a bunch of my nerd friends, I said, what are your search engines? So we came up with five all together, and I would cross-check each story across all five search engines and see what I had. in common and I would do that for everything and I would spend hours a day hours and it was fun because I'm like Batman I'm trying to find the truth yeah right and what I learned was there were a lot of lies a lot of lies and a lot of scary evil people making all this stuff uh happen and I'm like I don't want anything to do with that um decided to make a change yeah what do you think about uh only fans has been became really huge it's like a lot of women are making a lot of money not doing that.

Yes. That's not good for society, is it? It makes it so easy there's no gatekeeper, you know? Now, anybody can do it. I think for the most part when you was in the adult fames, you were happy. I was very happy. Yeah. So you just had this called the Jesus moment that changed your life.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Hand to God. He told me to go home and never do another porno again. Yeah. And I was like, co. assuming these girls that do only fans,

they're happy, they're the own boss, they're not being forced to do anything. I'm sure it's liberating for them. Yeah. It can be, but it's also a trap. Yeah, it's a trap. It's a trap. I think that's the perfect word. Crap. Yeah. Yeah. Gateway.

The gateway, the gateway is the stripping. The gateway is the chat lines, you know, the social media accounts that they try to go, you know, grow by posting pictures of themselves in their underwear, I see it all so differently now. And it's just like I encourage the crap out of that with my work and I want nothing to do with it now. There are a lot of people who don't know any better.

A lot of women who get into the business that just don't know any better. And they don't ever develop the skills to make a living in a different way. Right. And they are the ones that fare the worst because when they try to quit, they don't know which way to go about it. Right. And they get stuck. They don't have any skills. None.

You're pretty much trapped. You're going for making tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars a month. Yeah. Yeah. And now you've got to go do something for $10, $12, $15 an hour. Yeah. With no skills and work your way up. Once you go into it, it's so hard to get out of it.

It's like being addicted to a drug. You can. It's definitely a journey that's not easy to travel. You see a lot of people online now these days, becoming affiliate salespeople. A lot of people do in the internet marketing. They're coming across with the YouTube channels, making advertising revenue. What a lot of people in the adult industry don't realize is that their business skills translate to outside of having sex for a living. There are a lot of other things that they can use some of some.

There's skills for her. You can do a comology. You can do a comology and become vice president of the United States. Open your legs up. There's sucks some dudes off. Ooh. She gets a bad rap for that. She gets a bad rap.

Yeah. Man. She deserves a pity of it, though. Another placeholder like the one in the now. Yeah. Mm. Mm. Oh, God.

What's going to happen to us? What do you think is going to happen this next election? I think it's a great way If we get there Yeah a lot of people think they're going to start World War III In that case we won't have an election I think so

The thing that went down with Verizon today Yeah well I just noticed that I didn't look into it Yeah were you able to figure anything out I looked a little bit into it I didn't want to be late Because I was like oh my God It's the hot sweats

I got to get over there I don't want to be late oh my God And I'm trying to like act cool When I walk through the door Right The house is like, baby, calm down. I'm like, oh no, but they're like, they're so awesome. She's like, just chill.

The network went down and it's like supposed to be a nationwide outage or something. Verizon. Verizon. Yeah. That's crazy. People can't text or call. And they're, yeah. Wow.

So AT&T doesn't suck the most for today. Right. At least, you know. That's how that Obama movie started off on Netflix. Yes. It is. isn't it? Leave the world behind. Yeah, right. That's it. Leave the world behind.

That was a good story. It was a good movie, yeah. I didn't want to watch it because I knew the producers. I didn't want to watch it. I said, nah, I watched it. I waited until it was like a month or two or three going by and then I'm like, fine. I got nothing else. The world is going to end. I might as well see what they're talking about. Yeah, freaky. Yeah. Freaky. It's right, though, right? Did you catch all the symbols and stuff? Yeah.

Oh, I didn't. So I had. to have somebody tell me what they all wear. And I'm like, wait, white rabbit, what is that? Evergreen, the evergreen reference I caught, because I knew that that was a secret service code name. And then the ones, you know, the ships that got stuck in the Panama, remember all that? I said, I immediately said there are people in those containers.

I knew it. I knew it. And you guys, I don't know how you go back through archives on tweets or something. But you go back to whenever that happened, I'm like, there are people. I'm willing to bet they're shipping people through the Panama Canal. Yeah. Yeah.

And then they had the Evergreen reference. And then I don't really get the end of that movie. Was it like a nuclear war happening? It's like a cliffhanger, right? Yeah, it was like we're being on attack by another sovereign nation. That's the impression I got. That we'll be an attack. They kept it vague, though.

Like we are now? Yeah. And the impression I got is that it was chaos. There's no information. You don't know everybody. And the dude said in the car, he said, the next step is we take each other out. We do the good work for them.

A lot like, you know, what happened when we were seeing our cities being burned down. Right. Right. We'll take each other out so they don't have to. Right. Okay. I'm just going to sit at him and read my Bible things. If we make it to the election, which I'm hoping we do.

I do. What do you think is going to be the end result? It shouldn't even be close. It's not going to. to be. It shouldn't be. If, if, if, and I'm just saying, if by the grace of God, and from all the things I'm seeing, they're expecting something really bad to happen. Then, and I pick up on things, which is, you know, which, which is a curse, you know, sometimes, I don't think they believe that there's going to be an election, but if there is, I think he'll win all 50 states. Yeah. And they,

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It's my, just sort of something in my head. I don't know what do you guys think. That's a bit pessimistic. The last four years haven't exactly been sunshine. I know. We shouldn't be optimistic at all. Right. But the good thing is, is that no matter what,

no matter what happens, all of this struggle and all of this suffering, it's bringing people back to their faith, no matter what name they call their faith or by what name they decide to follow that faith. People are transforming their lives now. So that's a good thing, right? You know, it had the evil, you know, Satan child killing people not kicked in the overdrive, I would not have decided to come to Christ and I'd still be on camera making smut for a living. So I thank you for that.

Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I hope that shit don't come true, what you just said. I'm going to go home and shoot myself. They did a lot of those things already. They did a lot of those things.

They shut us down. Say we can't work. Yeah. And that's probably been hard when, were you still in the industry working when that COVID hit? What was that like? It was a blast. Yeah. Because everybody was at home and what do men do when they're at home with nothing to do.

We made a ton of money in the industry. It was disgusting. Dudes are disgusting. I love men. I love men. You know that the money that I disgracefully made, though, it helped support families who otherwise would have been out on the street, lost their job.

So, like, I kept open. Were you able to save a lot of money? I chose to help people who were in need. but the money that I did have I chose to create I opened offices here in Las Vegas that were originally intended to be a studio for production and then

yeah and then hand to God he smacked me right upside of my head and he was like no and I'm like what do you want me to do then and he says that's easy just to talk about Jesus and I'm like okay but that's not going to go over too well

and he says well make it right he says it's not up to you to decide when people are going to receive the messes it's up to them to hear it yeah he says you just do what i tell it you do and i was like cool okay and then you know life just has a funny way of taking you places and right oh man it's been a fun ride Vegas is crazy yeah i don't get out much because Vegas is crazy it is crazy though like I see more sex workers going to church than people who like to point their finger at them. I'm like, oh, you guys. Yeah, some of these Christians need to take a look in the mirror.

Yeah, yeah, they do. Well, they become judgmental and they, well, I'm not talking about all them, but they get like this elitist mentality like they're better than everybody else. They do. And they're so quick to like look down on people when they should. it be praying for them, talking to them, and welcome them. But it's so sad, though. I can't.

Which one of you is Keith? I'm Keith. I can't tell the difference. It's not because you, you know. Well, you should be able to tell them more hands than me. You look really exactly alike. Really? Yes.

Oh my gosh. It's so freaky, you guys. The people that, they're like that. They're so mean. You know, people that accept Christ's their savior, their savor and then walk immediately back to what they were doing is because they get exposed to these Christians or these believers who want to point fingers instead of hold a hand up and lead. And then, you know, the newborn are kind of like, well, is this what I have to look forward to?

I thought I was being forgiven for everything that I screwed up in life and now you're just telling me I'm still a dirt bag. What's the point? Yeah. Right? Why not go back to selling intimate companionship or drugs or Robin. people or doing all these horrible things, what's the point then? If you're telling me I'm still new good, what's the point? Yeah, right. And that, that's kind of the word that I'm sharing is that

it's okay if you don't have it figured out. It's okay if you're confused or if you're still lost or still falling. Right. That God loves you anyway. Yeah. Yeah, you need encouragement. Yeah, that's exactly it. So there's somebody who might be on their last leg on a Saturday at 2 o'clock in morning because he just went out and had like four girls and four lines stuffed up his nose right and he's wondering what's the point of life i want that guy to reach out to his bible or to a youtube video about christ instead of putting a gun to his head you know where that lady who just got beat up by somebody who hired her for an hour right yeah wondering what's the point did anything like that ever happened to you i'm sure you run to a lot of shitty characters where

They hurt you? I'm kind of scary. You don't want to see your bad side, huh? No. You used to be a dominatrix, right? I still am. Oh, okay. People don't really mess with me.

What is that a dominatrix? The dominatrix thing, I'm joking now, but to be a dominatrix is all about relieving someone of the responsibility to make decisions. Okay. Because they're exhausted. Oh, I never got, okay, it makes sense now. Take a whip out and you beat the shit out of you do. And the more under control someone feels while they're being dominated, the more relieved of responsibility they feel.

Oh, like they made a child again or something. Do not have to worry about anything? That's one way to put it, yeah. That was a sick way to put it, but. Yeah, but yeah, you're right. Before life got hard. Yeah. You know, and some of them are into the whole mommy thing,

which, yeah, that, it rubbed me wrong, rubs me wrong way. What's some sick stuff that guy would be like, I don't know, say or do, like mommy and... The stepmom thing was the beginning of the end for me. The stepmom? I like a good stepmother thing. Yeah, it made my stomach turn. Yeah. It turned my stomach.

The stepbrother, step sister thing, the auntie, the uncle thing, that to me was even worse than the stepmom thing. Yeah, it is. Because it's blood. The stepmom, you're not blood. That's not your child. Right. Yeah.

But the auntie, the uncle thing, and then you've got grandpa. And I'm like, yeah. Oh, you got grandpa. Yeah. Or the father. And I'm like, what's wrong with you people? Yeah. That's the thing about point.

Like when I got into it, it's like you look at this one genre and then that genre gets old so you keep going and you keep going down the rabbit hole. Well, you know it. I was looking at this crazy. Man, I didn't look at this. crazy stuff. I was probably in some of it. Yeah.

And it's crazy, man, how you get so addicted to something. And then you look at your watch. They're like, why, I've been looking at porn for 10 hours. Really? He's like, yeah. Yeah. It's like, shit. You got my respect.

I cannot look at it for 10 hours. I'm embellishing. It's like several hours went by, right? Not 10 hours, but, you know, time flies by. Hey, when I, when I look. Like, I'm like, she's making fun of me, Keith. You're about to pull it off your body. Oh, my Lord.

We're stuck to the bottom of your palm, dude. I never watched 10 hours of porn. Like, I remember just going from genre to genre. And then it's, what was I going to say? What genre is how you talking about? You get numb to it. You get numb to it. And then it got to a point where I didn't even like the professional porn because it looks fake.

Right. Like, I look at professional. the poor i'm like that girl's totally not getting off this is fake right why don't guys see that i'm like this is totally fake she's dry as ale and she's like oh i'm coming again i'm like bitch you dry hell right and it's probably it probably took 10 hours to shoot 30 minutes oh yeah oh my gosh oh my gosh i was in one i was in one uh production for browsers can you guys bleep that name out or something i mean if you wanted to yeah i don't want to would you call it biggies yeah you was working for biggies, right?

All right. I was working for a particular company and it had, it took 12 hours to shoot. 12 hours to shoot a 30-minute scene because of stunt work that had to be done. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, there is stunt work in adult films.

Dunt work. This poor man, remember the movie Porkies? Yeah, I remember that movie. Okay. I remember that movie. Okay. I remember Porkies. That's an oldie, bigotty. Yes. I did I did a particular scene in which my co-star had to be pulled through the wall by a not-so optimal appendage.

And they had to break the wall down while doing that. And they had to rebuild the wall over and over and over again. And we were just sitting there and waiting for them to rebuild the wall again and again. So, yeah, that 30 minutes took 12 hours. Wow. I just want to see some sticking. I ain't time to see no wall, actually. Right.

Some glory hole action, huh? Well, he actually got pulled through the wall, and I felt so bad for that poor guy. Oh, my God. I remember it like it was yesterday. Yeah, do you still think about the, I mean, not the bad, but the fun stuff? Like the wall?

Well, you know what I think about most? Yeah. The people. The people. The people. Different characters run into, right? Yeah. I mean, the other people, you know, the other people I work.

with not necessarily the mechanics of the work because yeah it was a blast too but not all of it was some of it was great some of it not but the people were always interesting oh yeah very interesting now what type of people get into that kind of work right right yeah people who were interesting right right right right and every one of them has a story every single person no matter how much you may or not get along with that individual every one of them is fascinating in one way or another. Right. Oh, wow. I kind of experienced that when we went into the military. It's like all these people from all across the country, they all had a story that are all different. Yeah. I'm sure it's the same way. And no matter what base you show up to, you all know each other, right? And you all have

something in common. So you all should be getting along. Right. It's the same way with the adult industry in the sets. You're going to a set. You're all there to do the same thing. You're all basically in the same uniform, which is in naked, what God gave you. And, you know, when you're going to, you're When you leave, you go home alone. Sort of like you're born alone, you die alone, right? Hey, have you ever did a scene and a guy walks in and he's like hung like a donkey? Like, hell, no, I'm not doing this. You probably know that before you can get there.

Yeah? Not always. Not always. Oh, really? Not always. You know, when I used to watch porn, right? Yeah. This dude, man, I was like, where are you going to stick all that?

They find a way to make it work. That's got to be painful, right? Extremely. That was my very first professional experience, something like that was I was not experienced with something so abnormally not normal. Right. And I thought it was going to die. And I said if this is what making movies is like I'm done.

Yeah. And then the next time I shot something, it was way different experience. I was like, oh. Would you say no black guys? Well, that's like a white guy. The first experience I had was not white. Black guy. Yeah.

And they held on to that scene for three years. before publishing it. Why? Yeah, I don't know. But, man, I went through all this pain and you just hold on to it. My very first professional scene, they held on to it for three years before allowing the public to buy it. What was the title? I'm not going to tell you.

Reparations. Reparations. You are too much. The Jack Shack. Oh, my God, you guys. Oh, man. I've been good at point of it. I came over creative titles.

What? If we win the porn, I could have came with some killer titles. Like what? Like me and him. Reparations won. Reparations one. I wonder if somebody's already done that. And I wonder, it would not surprise me.

Yeah. It would not surprise me at all. I would totally wear a mega hat. I have one. I didn't know if I could wear it on your show. Of course you can. Of course you can. I didn't know.

Yeah. Of course. I didn't want it. I was so nervous. I mean, conservatives can be really judgmental, but I'm like, Me and Kevin is like the old school liberal that's pro-gun and against abortion. That's who we are. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And freedom of speech. Yeah. That's a big deal. A Bill Clinton liberal. Yeah, he's actually not bad. Yeah, it wasn't bad at all.

I bounced the budget, created a surplus. And I mean, that to me was all I remember, that and the Monica thing. And that made him even cooler in my eyes. I was like, all right, dude. This dude, getting sucked off. Go get you some. I honestly didn't care. And I felt bad for the way that they destroyed it.

her life when you know, you know for a fact that the wife knew all about it. Yeah. Nothing is going to happen in that White House without a hundred people seeing it go down. Right. And without somebody snitching. Yeah. Right. Right.

Come on. Come on. There's no way she was under the desk and nobody else knew about it. She even had the wherewithal to take and put the dress in like a wrapped bag or something. So it could, you know, the DNA could be what, preserved like me. I don't even think. This presidential. Right, you know.

What the hell are you doing? Say that's all that work at the jackjack. That's a 10 hours of porn you've been watching. Yeah, my arms got too strong. He's ripping shit off. Oh, my gosh. See, you guys are pretty buff. You work out.

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Can't sleep in a hotel. No. And being on a flight, it just sucks the life out of yourself. So we could start this podcast. We could start to just work from home. Yes. Generated income like that. And I missed a lot of time from my family.

Right. Yeah. So that's rough on the family and kids. That's, that's, that's, that's, I tell you what, it's going to change life a lot, but in a great way. What can I do to help? Like, is there anything that I can do to help you guys make that more awesome? Oh, you being here and sharing your story?

Wanting to know. There are so many people like me here. Yeah. So many. Do you still stay in contact with people used to work with? I can. Yeah. I mean, I sort of live a different life now.

So my door's always open for them if they need to talk. Oh, okay. I still have love for all of them. I mean, if they send me a message, I'm happy to hear from them. You can't really stay too close. It's like being on crack. You get off crack and your friends still smoke crack. I ain't talking to them because I'm going to start smoking crack again.

Right. It's like sex is very addictive. It can be. It can be. I had to learn a lot of very, very painful lessons when I retired. That one of them was that being beautiful does not mean I'm evil. So I put on a whole bunch of weight because I didn't want to be attractive anymore. And I swear to you, this is not made up.

I thought that if I was pretty and people looked at me a certain way, it was my fault if they had lustful thoughts. So I gained a little bit of weight. It's like you're a Muslim or something. That's what Muslim men think. Cover yourself up. Because if I do something, it's your fault. Right.

Like if I'm not wearing a turtleneck at the gym and somebody gets turned on by that, that somehow makes me a bad person. I used to think like that. because I wanted to not be seen like the person I was when I had to learn that in order to glorify the salvation that I've accepted, I need to acknowledge who I was. Because it's a great story.

It's a happy thing to be so down in the dirt, so miserable and so lost, and suddenly to feel like life is going to be okay, even if they bring millions of people through the southern border who are killing our cats and dogs and making gourmet meals out of them, And

That's so funny People in the leftist These stories are all made up Like other Demographics of people And other Like it's a lie Like people don't eat

Cats and dogs In other countries That's like Right Come on man Right And you know Like the whole pizza thing

I don't know If certain words Are flag But like But like the whole pizza Thing was a lie too Yeah Oh yeah

How much of a lie is in now I've ever like You know I'm trying Not to curse anymore It's hard Yeah I know it is hard It's so hard

I've cleaned in my, I used to be very vulgar. If you look at my old videos, I have. Oh, we used to, I said, oh, my God, I used to curse so much. I was cursing when I didn't even need to. It was like, it came. For me, it's about, for me, cursing is, is the gateway.

It wasn't the stripping that led to sex work. It's the foul language that leads me to think. And maybe other little things are okay to. So that's my gateway addiction is foul language. So if I'm saying MF or I'm holding it back. But you're producers from the East Coast. East East Coast. I am a kindred spirit with this dude.

I get what he's talking about. And we were talking before the show because I was nervous. I was like, okay, what do they want to talk about? Do I need to read up on anything before I get here? Because I want to give you guys this great experience, this interview for your viewers. And he's like, no, just let it be a surprise. And I'm like, oh, crap. Yeah.

That's why we would delve into your life story because I think it's a beautiful story. There's a lot of people that's going through the same thing you were going through, and you could help them a lot. They are sharing your story. There's something I was just thinking about this week when I witnessed my daughter go in the water and come back out, which it made me cry like a baby. I cried like a baby when my daughter got baptized because she's 30, and it took me until I was 46 to understand, and she found out at 30.

She understood at 30. and I thought for everything that I've done in my life and all of the harm that I've brought into this world with my decisions my kids turned out okay and two out of three of them are now baptized and my son's wife is now baptized and I've got one more he's walking his path but he's going to be okay too

because I'm hearing the key words but I am I wanted people to understand that this is a lifetime journey. Becoming a better Christian, becoming more Christ-like is a lifetime journey. So people pointing fingers kind of makes them not very nice people. Right. Because where are they at if they're pointing the fingers, if they're not also helping someone to find the right path.

But I learned that no matter what's happening in this world, and I honestly feel like something really bad is coming. I do. I'm seeing it with the Verizon thing happening. And then, you know, they're finding new virus cases now. And weird remote places, too. Like, why are these things always happening in very low activity places, like, you know, the Midwest or something? Right.

It doesn't make sense. Not to mention you have to war in Ukraine and Israel. Is that horrible? They're really a war happening over there. Well, when I look at Israel, I think that's just total genocide. Mm-hmm. The Ukraine war? that Ukraine war, that was so preventable.

If we had a different leader, none of this will be going on right now. None of it. And maybe they wanted it to happen, so they would have a reason to funnel that money into a bank account that would then trickle the money back to them. Yep, right. Man, when are you people going to get it? I know. And I see people waving at Ukraine flags.

And I see people waving at the Jewish flags. It's like, come on, man. The Kevin McCarthy wearing a Ukraine flag on the house on the house. Oh, I just wanted to reach through that, that TV. Shake that man. What kind of Republican on you? Yeah. You did that.

Right. Wow. What a circus. You know what? I hope when we're both old and gray, when all three of us are old and gray, I say both because you all look like. When we're old and gray that somebody makes a movie about this. Yeah. You know, where's Charles Dickens today?

Who is the Charles Dickens of our day? J.K. Rawlings. J.K. Rawlings, if you're out there, I really love your work. I hope you write a saga series about everything that's happened. Would that be great? Harry Potter, my butt, do want something about the United States and all the... That'll be a series. Mm-hmm.

That'll be an eight-movie series, too. Right. Speaking of it, Stephen King. Well, that dude's a four-lefty. That dude's nuts. He looks nuts. I used to read all his books. Me too.

I was like, oh my God, you're a far leftist. It's like, come on. When did he go crazy? I used to read his books too. Like Stephen King is my favorite author of all times. And Judy Blum. Yeah. I got to read to Judy Blum.

But like Stephen King, that man is a genius. Yeah. Who comes up with these ideas? Where does he get these story ideas? Well, now we know. Now we know. He and his friends are out in the middle of the forest in the summer with this big golden goofy statue

and a bunch of fire dancing in their underwear. You know what's so odd? Remember back in the 70s during Vietnam and I remember liberals was like very anti-war. Yeah. Now today they're like pro-war and Republicans are very anti-war.

They're told to be pro-war. These people don't think for themselves. They don't. They do not. They do not think for themselves. As soon as the Democrats come out of a narrative, they run with it. Yeah.

Well, remember we, we, way back when earlier in this conversation, these people don't feel like their life means anything. So when someone tells them that their life will mean something, if they go out for whatever cause is the latest thing, they jump on it. It's the only way that they feel good about themselves. For people to hate themselves so much,

they don't know to wake up in the morning and know what name they're going to go by. That's got to be difficult. It says a lot to me. Hey, I got a question. This back to... Yes. our life.

Okay. Was there any time there was a scene picks to you where you was like, hell, no, I'm not doing that. Wait, say that again? Was there any time in your afterlife, before life, whatever you would call it,

where you had a scene coming up and they pitch, a scene to you? Yes. And then you read that pitch, like, nope, I'm not doing this. Yeah, yes. Yes. What was it?

In fact, I've had a few, I've had a few scenes that I've accepted that were supposed to be one story that after I accepted and signed the paperwork, because you got to sign paperwork before, you know, you get on camera, everybody's got to be legal and verified stuff. Then the story was changed. Oh. And it moved to Gold Post.

Yeah. Yeah. And actually, that was the last time a very famous now retired actor was in film was because they did that to us. They changed the story to be one of these new disgusting genres that, that to include just certain key words. That's how it began. They would include certain words with the dialogue, you know, maybe here and there.

And then it became the whole scene was about the relatability of your co-star, the relationship, the family. And I'm like, I can stand it. It made my skin crawl. I'm like, no. And I would tell them, and they were good to me. My agent was good to me. They're really good people. I would tell them, hey, I don't want to do any more of these.

Oh, like stepson and stuff like that. I hated it. I hated it. You had lines and stuff. Yeah. Hey, son, you digged your homework yet? Well, I tell you what, you had me sold. You know?

Yeah. You're a damn good at. Yeah. You know, you get paid to do a job. You do it well or don't do it at all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I found some, some on YouTube. I was like, oh my God, it's so believable. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Oh, it helps me. Hey, Kevin. What?

Shut up. It's all good. You know, I got it. But it's good that you can joke about these things. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was nervous to come on your show because you guys are like a huge big deal in broadcasting.

I've been watching our show for years now and I was afraid that your viewers were just going to be like set you on fire for having me speak to you. it today. There's a lot of that in the conservative movement. Yeah. Like I said, I vote conservative, but I'm liberal at heart. I'm just pro-life and I'm for First Amendment and Second Amendment. I'm just an old-school liberal.

Yeah. What, I mean, when can we all just go back to being Americans raising our families? Yeah. You know, this all started with the labels. This all started when they wanted to separate us into groups. You know, the secretary. segregation thing that they want to separate us to keep us apart because what they didn't want us to know is that when we were all just Americans and we don't have a problem with each other, they're scared of us. These people are terrified of people like you and you and me and my sweet husband who's from Texas, who's a Cowboys fan back there.

Hi, hi, honey. They're terrified of people like us talking to each other without hating and. and burning our cities down. Right. I look forward to that day when we can all just be neighbors. Just be neighbors. Throwing rocks at the old man and walking on his lawn while he shoots the hose at all the kids. Water hose.

Right. Hey, so what are you doing now, professional? I am taking a couple of months. I had to get my health back in order. The stress was a bit much. My health sort of fell apart. I had gained that weight that I told you about. Now, for a woman, my age, I'm 47,

it was devastating to my health to gain about 35 pounds. Oh, yeah. We got back in the gym. I'm trying to lose a little weight. You guys look good. Are you talking about? Wait till I take this shirt off. I look good in a shirt.

You know, I got love for everybody. I wouldn't say no to that. I mean, you know, if I wasn't married, I wouldn't say no to that. And I'm like, I was banking on it. Right, right. Just putting on that weight at this age. Yeah, it's so detrimental. And what people, you know, is that it happens so fast because I stopped caring.

And when it came time for me to care, everything stopped. And I had no choice but to take the weight off. And I've been working since, I'm going to say since May, late May, early June. And I lost it. And I'm about two pounds now, two pounds for my goal. So, you know, I just want to go eat some X-lax or something. I'm joking. Don't lose weight on safely people out there.

It's bad for you. But I love broadcasting. I love doing broadcasting. I love doing Bible study broadcasting. To do Bible study videos in a way that helps people who have a hard time learning. Or people who have short attention spans. Or people who aren't quite into Jesus or the Bible or God. I speak about the Bible and verses and lessons in a way that maybe can appeal to people to want to ask more questions.

Is your show on YouTube? Oh, okay. Where can people find it? At Elizabeth Spragons, just my name. At Elizabeth Spragons. You dropped their allure, Jitsa. Yeah, you know, that's kind of a funny thing. People still call me Allura.

They know my face. They know me as Allure because they saw me on cameras. When we run in people out in town, hey, Hodge Twins, it's just me there. So it's right. Those stage names, people just take that as your name. Are you serious? Your last name isn't Hodge? Yeah, my last name is Hodge.

But people refer to us as Hodge Twins. Yeah, I'd be just one of it. And he'd be like, hey, Hodge Twins. I'm like, yeah. How can people tell you apart? I'm better looking. I'm serious. Like, how can people tell you about it?

If you spend some time with us, you better tell us apart. Like, I don't know. Kemp's got this dipshit look about him. Oh my goodness. Just like he's always happy. And I got this face. Like I'm going to assassinate somebody. That's what people tell me.

Kevin is happy and I look mean. Yeah. Are you guys always been, you know, the complimenting personalities like that? Yeah. Really? Been each other's best friend ever since birth. Oh, that's so sweet.

Oh, my gosh. Kevin's a faggot. I'm just joking. You're going to bleep that out, but. I guess I have to say it. You're both married now, right? Yeah. I've been married since.

It's 2000. Oh. 24, 24 years. What years is this? I'll stop keeping track because I'm getting old. Yeah, we've been about over 20 years. Both of you have been married 20 years? Mm-hmm.

Got three kids. Oh, wow. How old are they now? Shit, I don't know. My oldest is 23. Wow. And my Joshua, he's my middle kid. He's about to be 18.

Oh, boy. And then my youngest is Jacob. He's, uh, 12, I think. Three boys. Yeah, two boys and one girl. My first one, Dana. Yeah, she's the oldest.

Oh, so sweet. You're so lucky. My oldest is, damn, she's going to be 30. Really? Yeah, because I had it when I was 20. Wow. And, uh, damn.

Is she married? Uh, no. I think she's, she's gay. I don't know she's married or not. All right. How's life? Life is good. It was funny when I was first talking to her

because I didn't talk to him sometime. I kind of figured she was gay. I said, so you got a boyfriend or anything? She's like, nah. She's lived here by myself. I said, you got a roommate? Yes, girl. I said, are you gay?

She's like, I said like, it's okay. Right. It's okay. But I told us, you're going to burn in hell of this. You said that time? No, I'm just joking. Oh, my gosh. I'm joking.

Wow. So does your daughter have the same sense of humor as you? Do your kids all? You know what? been separate for a while because she was with her mom. I'm going to try to get her to come see me here. Yeah. Around Thanksgiving or Christmas.

But she's, damn, almost 30. Then I have my son. He's going to be 22 next month. And then I got Eli. Fuck, he's 14. And then I have my other daughter. What? She's 16.

Oh, that's a fun age. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. A homeschooler, though. Amen for that. Hey, man. Get your kids out of public school. Holy crap. Yeah. What a mess that's become.

Especially out here in Vegas. Oh. Oh, these schools out here. These kids out here are very bad. Ooh, wow. You know, all three of mine, now grown adults, functioning in society and not a mess. I don't know how that happened. Only by the grace of God, right? Right. Wow. Public school here. And at the very last one, he's now 20. How old is Brian? He's 20. 25?

Darn if I know, born in 99. So, yeah. He went to Foothills High School here in town. They tried to have him arrested for, this is the day that Turkey bombed some country. I don't remember what, but this is several years ago. And he made a joke about he wasn't afraid of them coming to the country because he knew how to make his own weapons. Boom, called the cops on him just right then. That's crazy. Oh my gosh.

You know what a nightmare that was? I had to hire a defense attorney for my high school kid. See, that's crazy because context matters. and he's just a kid. Right. And it wasn't even a teacher. It was some kid who was part of the group of people talking, went home and told his mom what my son said. And the liberal white woman who didn't feel like her life mattered unless she was fighting for some cause that had nothing to do with her, had to call the cops.

And they came and they got my son. And I was like, are you kidding me with this? Yeah. Wow. And he was lucky. It was two days before his 18th birthday. they would have put him in adult jail had he been 18 years old. That's crazy.

Six months later, his ass was in boot camp. Yeah. Yeah. He was in the military. We shipped him off the boot camp. Signed him over when he was 17 because we're like here, Judge, he's signed up. Yeah. I want to ask you, majority of women overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

Why do you think that is? The abortion issue. Yeah. Do you really believe that the majority of women vote Democrat? I mean, I look at the statistics, and that's what the majority of women are. I mean, women is a big reason why Democrats are voted in our office, every election. I think it's all because of that one issue around abortion. I believe that the majority of women who vote Democrat don't have a strong man,

don't have a strong man in their life to make it a topic of personal discussion and not public. See, a woman in a happy relationship, no matter who your partner is, I'm just going to include everybody. But if you're happy at home, you don't need to go out and get verification from everybody else that you're living life right. You know, so the people that you're hearing about voting Democrat, they're all making sure it's okay with the other Democrats. Yeah, that's weird. Conservative women don't care. Yeah, we just won't be left alone. Want the government out of my life and stay out of my pocket, just leave us alone.

Why does nobody understand that? Yeah. Like if you can't just let be, live and let be, right? I'm going to raise my family. You go do your thing over there and good for you. I'm going to raise my family, believe in my constitution, and protect my home and my loved ones. And the minute you want to bring your circus over here, it becomes my problem. See, right now, they're like throwing rocks at the windows on all of our houses saying,

we haven't broken a window yet. We haven't broken a window yet. but when they do, they're going to be surprised at what pokes out of that hole that they bust through your window. I'm telling you guys, that's going to be a fun day. Yeah. Yeah, my whole family's going to go vote. Mine too. Yeah.

I got everybody, son, daughter. Dragon everybody. And they're all citizens. Ain't that a hoot? All citizens. Well, Elizabeth, this has been a great conversation. Thank you. Thank you for sharing your store with us.

but again where can everybody find you at but outlets do you have like social media and what you got going well you know it's impossible for me to scrub all of my sin and from the internet so oh i have the same problem right all the things i used to say it's everywhere but if you'd like to if you're out there and you'd like to find my new work that i've been working very hard on for the last two years or so um it's across multiple platforms uh i do a YouTube channel at Elizabeth Braggins. I have about six or nine months of... I want to talk to him like he's right here sitting next me.

He's my buddy. My husband's my best friend. I have several months of Bible study videos already finished and produced. So if you're out there, just go to at Elizabeth Braggins on YouTube. And I am still listed under at Alora Jensen on X and on meta Instagram. Because they won't let me change it. I say the account's too big. And that it would be like defrauding people to change it.

And I'm like, okay, then. Your Bible stood, are you able to monetize that on YouTube? I haven't yet. I don't know how. You should do that. I don't know how. I got into the opportunity where they offered me the education to become an affiliate salesperson. And I'm like, okay, this isn't so bad.

And then I got into advertising. And then I'm like, this isn't so bad, but I felt like a scumbag doing it. Yeah. I did. And I had spent so many years manipulating people into giving me their money. I didn't want to do it anyway. So I just, I like talking about God and the Bible and Jesus. And I like talking to people like me.

People or people who are living the life that I once lived. People who are out there and they're just, they're just sort of floating in water waiting to drown or be lifted out. Yeah. I like those people. Those people are interesting. And I wanted to provide a channel for them to be able to maybe have some of their questions answered. That was a long-winded answer. I'm sorry.

He's coughing over here. He's choking on that jack-check. You're going to make it a what? You get. I think I survive. Thank you guys for having me here. You guys have been a blast. Thank you.

Maybe next time I will be so nervous. Wonderful sense of humor. Let's have some drinks then we'll get to, you know, talking. Yeah. Love you, Mom.