Hodgetwins Podcast - From America's General To Political Target! | Twins Pod - Episode 26 - General Flynn

Episode Date: August 16, 2024

General Michael Flynn is an American Hero & World Class Patriot! He joins Twins Pod to discuss his political background, why the media/intelligence communities persecuted him, and his insight into what the future looks like for America regardless of who becomes President. General Flynn also brings his friend Combat veteran Boone Cutler to discuss psychological warfare, veteran recovery, and the medical-industrial complex! it's a DAMN GOOD show y'all! Get your Twins merch and have a chance to win The Iconic General Lee! - https://officialhodgetwins.com/ Get Optimal Human, your all in one daily nutritional supplement - https://optimalhuman.com/ Secure your financial future today - https://prepperbar.com/ American-made, top of the line knives - https://dmoknives.com/ Want to be a guest on the Twins Pod? Contact us at [e-mail] Download Free Twins Pod Content - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_iNb2RYwHUisypEjkrbZ3nFoBK8k60CO Follow Twins Pod Everywhere - X - https://twitter.com/TheTwinsPod Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thetwinspod/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/twinspod TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@twinspod YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdg Rumble - https://rumble.com/c/TwinsPod Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/79BWPxHPWnijyl4lf8vWVu?si=03960b3a8b6b4f74 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/twins-pod/id1731232810 03:12 - Mike Flynn's Movie 05:11 - General Flynn Was A Democrat Until Trump 09:23 - Intelligence Communities Going After Political Figures 11:20 - 9/11 Changed Everything 17:40 - This Is Why They Came After Flynn 22:10 - Flynn Was Originally Appointed By Obama 28:09 - Trump Asked Flynn To Resine? 32:48 - Pence Did Not Like Flynn 40:42 - Hollywood & The Government Are Propagrandizing Us 45:02 - Republics & Democrats Both Suck! 53:17 - Biden Crime Family 58:46 - Censorship Is Murder 1:03:12 - Boone Cuttler Joins 1:05:43 - Veterans Are Treated Awfully 1:11:46 - Veteran Suicide 1:16:39 - The Twins Are on Shrooms?! 1:20:53 - People Do Not Trust The Establishment 1:25:47 - Mind Control IS Real 1:30:05 - Dystopian Surveillance In China 1:36:34 - Election Predictions 1:41:21 - False Flages To Demonize Groups 1:50:16 - Everyone Loves the Twins

Yeah, welcome to episode 26. Welcome, General Flynn. This is great. Is that how you talk, actually? Yeah, not really. That's not how you talk. Oh, it's my wife and not. Yeah, it's not how you talk.

That's how I get my wife going in there. I call out a lot of people. I'm calling out the President of the United States of America. Yeah. Calling out the Vice President of the United States of America. Current and past. I went into the White House as a Democrat. I was vetted as one of the final four candidates for Vice President as a Democrat

because I didn't give a shit about politics. about the country. And I just felt like Trump was the guy. We now are in this world of narrative assassination or assassination by narrative. We can sort of fight through this and we can survive this messy situation, this messy period of history that we're in if we come together. There is a darkness, there's an evil that permeates, certainly the political system of our country. I mean, it's so corrupt. A military industrial complex now has other elements, other arms, if you will, or other appendages. That really came out of 9-11. On the 10th of September of 2001, the government was probably one-fifth the size it is now,

and it grew by five times since 9-11. You know, black budget, black programs. I don't know why they don't call it the white programs. How familiar was the black program? Got to call it the black program. How familiar was Trump with this type of business? He wasn't familiar. He didn't know anything about it.

Didn't know anything about it. You were in a great position to expose all that. Do you think that's the reason why they went after you? Absolutely. Absolutely. like him or not, you know, whether you think Orange Man is bad or not, you know, Orange Man is authentic. And the one thing that Orange Man loves is he loves his country.

And I could tell that from the second I met him. So Trump asked you to resign? Yeah. Do you have any resentment towards Trump for him even asking you to resign? You know, I did. I did initially. Yeah. Welcome to episode 26.

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And now you can try it for free. Go to optimalhuman.com forward slash hogs twins to get your free kit today. Let's get to the general. Yeah. Yeah, welcome to episode 26 to our podcast. Welcome, General Flynn. This is great. Is that how you talk, actually?

Yeah, not really. That's not how you talk. Oh, it's my wife tonight. That's how I get my wife going in there. I said, yeah. I haven't met you're going to be scared of that. No, actually, she scares me. Oh, my God.

Make sure that she checks this out, edits this before you guys go online. Oh, she gave up a long time. I said, General, just don't watch the video. Don't watch the shows. Wow, wow. Hey, in preparation for this show, we watched your documentary fan. That was an amazing movie. That was an our open experience.

Yeah. Everything made sense like, I remember what happened on January 6th of the debacle that, you know, that was probably one of the worst mistakes Trump ever made during his presidency. And I've seen some things that didn't make a lot of sense. to me. Like, I saw Pence and people was holding up sign saying, hang Mike Pence. I was like, wow, these guys are evil and mean.

What's going on? What's going on? And then after I saw your documentary, everything makes sense. Yeah, why they're saying that? Yeah, it comes to light. I mean, yeah. So, first of all, the documentary, it's called Flynn, Deliver the Truth, whatever the cost.

And I won't get into the weeds of getting that thing so I could put it out publicly because I call out a lot of people. I'm calling out the president of the United States of America, calling out the vice president of the United States of America, current and past. And I call out other people who are some serious, you know, serious people in the world of politics, course, and, you know, and where we're at today in this country. So the story is really a, I think it's an inspiring story of survival.

people that watch it, and it's been watched quite a bit, which I really am humbled by. It's so thankful for guys like you to watch it and talk about it here. And that's great being in studio with you all. General, I think this movie, not only Republicans, should watch. I think every American, regardless of your political ideology, everybody should see that movie. Yeah, I mean, and one of the things that you learn in the movie is that my family, we grew up, you know, we grew up in a very big family. my father was a sergeant in the Army, World War II, in Korea, and, you know, very small, very small house, very tight-knit family. And Kennedy Democrats.

And we were Democrats. Right. And like I say in the film, I went into the White House as a Democrat. Right. You know, I was looked at, vetted before the Republican Convention of 2016 as one of the final four candidates for vice president as a Democrat. You know, like I said you heard of. No, like I say in the movie, because I didn't give a shit about politics. I cared about the country.

And I saw that the country was going in a direction that, frankly, and I just felt like Trump was the guy. You know, I felt like, so we needed, we were coming off the rails. And, you know, so Trump was the guy to get us back on the rails. But what people in this country have to understand is that in order for us to stay on the rails, because, you know, he's one man. He's going to be here for only a short period of time. you know, in terms of sort of the historical dimensions. And we're going to need to come together.

And that's why as a, you know, as a former Democrat, I mean, I moved and I changed parties, but that's mocks next. My attitude has not changed. You haven't changed. And I haven't changed one bit. So the movie really, it talks about, and it takes the viewers back in time because the first, probably third to a half of the movie, gets into a little bit of my military. backgrounds and experiences and some of the some of the reasons why I got to where I got.

Right. And this idea about endless wars. And endless wars where I raised the idea, you know, we show Eisenhower, President Eisenhower, given the warning. You know, he talks about that. We talk about that in the film. And then we talk about the assassinations of the 1960s, you know, both Kennedy's brothers, right?

John and Robert, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King. Right. And I really do point to our government. So I don't point to Lee R.V.R. Weir's wall. I mean, I point to our government. And the fact that our, if you, if you, even back then, if you took on, you know, if you took on elements of the government, the government, those elements, in this case, the CIA was going to come after you. And, you know, and certainly the FBI, too, I think, in the realm of Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. So then, and we lay this out, and I won't get into too much of the details because I do believe when people see it, you know, you can think what they, people can think what they want about me.

But when you see it, you're going to be blown away by, geez, and most people that come to me, like we had, we just came up out of California here to visit you guys. You know, we had, I don't know, 450, 500 people. And universally, they come up to me and they say, I followed your story, but I just. just didn't know. I didn't realize it was this bad. Exactly how I felt. Yeah, yeah. I mean, because you guys probably paid attention to what was happening and, you know, and a lot of people did and they thought, you know, they got this headline, that headline. But we now are in this world of, and I describe it a bit in a movie, this idea of narrative assassination or assassination nation by narrative, although we now have moved back to physical assassination, the shot, you know,

or shots that were just taken at President Trump here recently. So, so we're in this world right now. And, you know, the way that we sort of me as a vessel to convey this message of the challenges that our nation faces, we can, we can sort of fight through this and we can survive this, this message. situations, this messy period of history that we're in, you know, if we come together. Right. And I do believe, you know, that we have to drive out this darkness that exists over certainly the United States of America. I believe it's more, it's more universal, it's more global, you know, because there is a global alliance that has formed against the United States of America. But there is a darkness. There's an evil that permeates, certainly the political system of our country.

so corrupt. Yeah. So corrupt. Let me say this. Like, I thought what was happening to Trump was like an anomaly, the way he's been politically persecuted. But in your movie, it shows this has been going on for decades. Like you speak of those assassinations with Martin Luther King, Michael Max, JFK, RFK, I mean,

who was it, RFK or JFK? Both of them. JFK and RFK. Yeah, it was all based around the military industrial complex. Yeah, so in the late 50s, and Eisenhower, you know, became the president. He was the president for eight years, two terms. A fascinating story about Eisenhower and the people that are around him and how the CIA came and morphed from, you know, OSS into the CIA.

And then there was a takeover of the government to a degree. I mean, I'm generalizing here a little bit, but, you know, maybe because I'm a general. But I'm just, you know, when we look at that, so Eisenhower, I think it was like three days before he gave up power of the presidency. In his final speech, he gave this sort of dire warning. You know, if you read the whole speech, there's some optimism there, but then it was this dire warning about this military and industrial complex. And at that time, at 19, I think it was 61 or 62, at that time, the complex was not that development. It was, it began, and it was, and it was starting to really take shape and grab hold of the government. But it wasn't that developed.

Now, when we look at what, you know, we all kind of woke up here in the last couple of years and said, oh, my God, what the heck is going on here? And now that that military industrial complex now has other elements, other arms, if you will, or other appendages. And it's like, you know, there's a security state complex. And that's the growth of the intelligence community, which I'm very familiar with. And that really came out of 9-11. So, you know, on the 10th of September of 2001, you know, the government was probably one-fifth the size it is now. And it grew by five times since 9-11. I mean, it's just incredible growth.

One of those areas of growth was the intelligence community. So now we have 17, you know, agencies of the intelligence community. I mean, it's like you walk, you know, you can't, you know, swing a dead cat, right, and not hit one of them. And so what they've done is they are like, you know, I don't know, they're like a cancer that has bled or grown into our entire government structure, every single element of our government. And so that security state complex, well, now we also have what we learned from the Twitter files, which is really important. a couple of great journalists who were given access, Michael Schellenberger and Matt Tahibe, and they broke the Twittergate files, right, the censorship.

And when we saw that and we started to examine that, now you have this censorship complex. And the censorship complex is this world of cyber, right? So you got the national security agency, which is a big component of the U.S. intelligence community, And then you've got this organization called CISA. It's a cyber information and security agency within the department, within the executive branch of the government.

The FBI has a giant cyber operation. CIA has a giant cyber operation. So now they can take this and they work really closely with Silicon Valley, you know, the big tech titans, right? The Twitter, Facebook, and others. And they created this censorship complex. And, I mean, you guys, I don't know if you were censored. I think you were, actually.

Oh, yeah. And I know I was. I mean, many people were, and people that listen to this, you know, we'll know, oh, yeah. So you have these, you have these military industrial complex. Inside of the Department of Defense now, each of the services, they services Army, Navy, Air Force Marines, right? I mean, so they have grown, and they have their own, like, it's like another amoeba that's grown, like another arm that's grown out of a body.

And each of the services have an engulf. The amount of power. And when you look at Washington, D.C., so let's just physically look at Washington, D.C., there's essentially 10 counties that surround it. So the wealthiest counties in the country. Yep, Loudoun County. All right there. They're right around Washington, D.C. And you say to yourself, well, how can this be, right?

Why don't we share in this wealth? There are all these people who they want to share the wealth, right? No, they don't want to share the wealth. There's no wealth being shared. So you give your money to, you know, to Uncle Sam, and sadly it ain't even Uncle Sam anymore. It's, you know, it's Uncle Nancy or Aunt Nancy, you know. So you give your money to the government. They take it and they're giving it to many other countries on the planet,

probably damn near every country on the planet. Most people don't know that. Some type of funds. And so we give money away. But a lot of that money finds its way back, right back into those complexes. that I just talked about. Okay? So if I, if I, you know, a congressional bill, we give out half a, let's say, let's say,

let's say a hundred million dollars, okay? A hundred million dollars. Your audience is going to go, damn, a hundred million dollars, that's a lot of money. It's a shit, a lot of money. And, but a hundred million dollars to the, to the, to a government that's, you know, that has a budget, I mean, our defense department has, you know, we're looking at a trillion dollars just for the defense department. So our budgets are, our, our, our, our, our, our,

So $100 million contract that's let for some type of weapon system. Let's just say one weapon system. A lot of that money will, it'll be granted to Lockheed Martin. So let's say Lockheed, or just as an example, using a company like that, they get the contract to build an airplane. Now what happens is every member of Congress, you know, the Senate and the House, they start to make sure that a little piece of that comes back, right? And it's not so much that they're creating jobs because we don't manufacture that much stuff in this country anymore. So it's not like a lot of that's coming back into their districts. You really follow the flow of a dollar of one of those dollars that's part of that $100 million.

And you see that, okay, so what's this company right here? And who owns it? Oh, that's owned by your nephew. Or that's owned by your friend. Okay? And what do they make? What does that have to do with that aircraft that's being built? Nothing. It has nothing to do it. So when it all flows back and you really start to dig in and you analyze where this money is flowing, you say to yourself, man, we're being, you know, we're being ripped off. They're just, and because the American people, what we're supposed to do in this system of government and a constitutional republic, we're supposed to trust these people. We sit there and we vote for them. They come in and you meet a congressman, you meet us, you know, you meet one of these people, even local. You know, you meet one of these people and they're like,

And you think, oh, he seems like a good guy. You know, he seems like a great guy. Well, how long you've been in Congress? You know, 20 years, 12 years. It's like, and you, what did you do before you went in? Nothing. Nothing. Yeah, that's a good answer, right?

I mean, what did you do? Well, you know, I was a small town. I sold some real estate or I was a small town lawyer. Okay, and so what was your like income then? Well, I was maybe, you know, maybe they were lucky and they're making $150,000. These people about had a paper route. And now that, yeah, and now they have, you know,

now you're looking at somebody their net worth is like a, a couple of million dollars or more. And you say to yourself, okay, this is not right. I mean, we had, you know, our country was not designed to create a political class. What we really wanted was people who wanted to serve the country, do the best that they could, and then get the hell out of Dodge, and go back and do something else, right? Be something else for other people back in your hometown or whatever you wanted to do and get out of there, serve for a period of time.

So when when Trump chose you to be his head of intelligence, you were in a great position to expose all that. Do you think that's the reason why he went after you? Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, one of the, and I talk about this in the movie, you know, if you remember in the movie, I say that I called for a briefing. So I called for a briefing, right? The first time was before we went into the White House, because this is an area that I was very familiar with. and this is an area that has, you know, an incredible budget that nobody knows about. It's an off-the-books, like you have two sets of books, right?

So if you've got two sets of books, you'd be like the mafia. You'd be like a criminal enterprise. You've got your books that you want everybody to see, and then you've got your own set of books where you keep that off because you're laundering money back into yourself. Well, the government kind of does that with these programs, and I am aware of them. and there are people that are in Congress

that are supposed to approve these things on an annual basis that have the right clearances. You know, you have something called the gang of eight. People can go look up who's in the gang of eight. But the fact that they call them a gang. I mean, come on. Right.

And these are like serious people in our government. So that budget is a huge, huge budget. I mean, it gets, you know, it gets close to the T level. and it's seriously corrupt. I mean, seriously corrupt. It is, there are programs there that are no longer valid. There's just not valid anymore, but the money still flows because nobody questions it. Now people's getting money on the back end, why would they question?

Yeah, and it's, you know, they call it the black, you know, black budget, black programs. I don't know why they don't call it the white programs. How familiar was a... Got to call it the black program. Got to call it the black program. How familiar was Trump with this type of business? He wasn't familiar. He didn't know anything about it.

He didn't know anything about it. Yeah. Mike Pence didn't really know anything about it either because he and I sat in that meeting. He didn't know squads. But you knew about it. I knew about it because as having run one of the largest intel agencies in the world, and some of those programs, you know, I was aware of not all of them. Because, you know, as the national security advisor, you have your, your principles.

every day everything. I was right on to the, Trump's sitting right next to me, and on the day that we got read on to the nuclear codes and the whole nuclear football and the whole process. And I was generally aware of that because of a job that I had had in the, in the Pentagon prior as the senior intel officer on the joint staff. So I had some knowledge of the system and the processes, but now I'm right into that too, right? So when they were briefing me and the incoming vice president you know these are the top guys in the CIA as I as I call out in the film and they didn't have the answers I mean I'm like and what did I want I mean so they come in and they give you these big beautiful charts and you know this book and they're and they're laying it out

and I'm looking at it and I'm like okay so how effective has that program been you know what has that program done to move the safety and security of the people of this country forward, to protect this country, to raise the prestige of this country. When I asked those questions, I were like, and that's where you got the squirming in the seat. I mean, these are like serious people, top, top guys in the CIA, and there's only about four or five of them in that room at that time. And here they're briefing, the incoming national security advisor of the United States

of America, working directly for the president. the vice president, incoming vice president of the United States of America. So they didn't have the answers that I wanted. And Pence kind of, he's, you know, it was probably the first time he'd ever seen any of this stuff. You asked, we answered. Woo! Yeah! We get started a brand new giveaway.

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Yeah. Yeah, you was appointed by Barack Obama, right? Twice. Twice. Twice. Twice. Twice for Assistant Director of National Intelligence. And, and, um...

So he trusts you? Yeah, he trusted me enough. He promoted you. Yeah, he promoted me twice. And then, you know, you've got to get confirmed by the Senate. And I was 100% confirmed. In fact, you know, at the end of the movie, if you remember, I'm showing my son a letter that I had gotten from Barack Obama congratulating me on my service to country and signed. And then I made the comment.

And a year later, these bastards got me under investigation. You know, I didn't tell this story in the film, but because I do want to return, just put a bow on this thing about these programs. Right. Because I called for it again in the White House when I was there, when we finally went in, literally the first couple of days. I was like on a mission. Yeah, you didn't last but 22 days.

No, that's right. You got to go. And there was a meeting in the Oval Office that was attended by Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Jim Clapper, Director of National Intelligence, director of the CIA Brennan, director of the FBI, Jim Comey, essentially the acting director of the Department of Justice, Sally Yates, the current National Security Advisor under Barack Obama, Susan Rice. Those people and a few others, a few other minions,

were in the Oval Office on the 5th of January. And, you know, that's one of the things that in the film, my son, Michael, you know, he and I were told. talking, you know, in the film. And I, you know, we were talking about what was the most important thing. Like, what do you remember most about this wall, right? Because we have this timeline. And he, he says, this is the thing that kind of has driven him.

That timeline in that movie is crazy. It is crazy. And it's real. And so that meeting was the 5th of January, 2017. Of course, just prior to Trump coming into office. and after Barack Obama had warned Trump not to hire me. Right. He hired me twice.

He hired me twice. And he did that even before all of the craziness about the rush of phone calls. So they knew that they were going to do something. Well, on the 5th of January, they basically conspired to undermine the president of the United States. And during that meeting, and we know this. factually from the fight that I got into as I went through this persecution and said, screw this, I'm not taking this anymore and I'm going to fight back. And then we started to dig our heels in and get evidence.

So they now started to, you know, I changed lawyers out and the whole thing. And that's all described. But we started to get evidence. And then, you know, Bill Barr, the attorney general, appoints the special counsel, special counsel digs in and goes, oh, my God, man, we screwed this guy. And there was no crime committed. we committed the crime. So they dismissed the case. But that meeting on the 5th of January was the meeting that they conspired, that body of those people, those names, to say we are going to get Flynn

and then we're going to get Trump. We have to get Flynn out of the way. And I've told people this, that had I not left the White House, there would have been no Mueller investigation. The Russia gate, I would have killed it because I would have, you know, I was digging in. I'm digging in, and they knew it. And this first, this, you know, back to this, to this, this black budget program that exists and still exists. And, you know, if you ask Trump about it, he go, I'm aware of some of it. You know, he doesn't know the weeds about it, but, you know, he should, especially now

that I was going after that first. Yeah. And then there was going to be some other things that I was going to do because I had already done those things in the agency that I had led, which is the defense intelligence. You know, immediately going in and starting to reform the organization so it was more functional. It actually did its mission and started to look at their budget. And that particular job, and I called for an audit, which should, you know, there's no audit's done with these organizations. It's crazy.

I mean, this is, so this is, you know. That's what started all this. Oh, it started all of it. And now I'm the national security advisor. So, and, you know, it's like, because people look at, you know, the audience goes and so, okay, what's the National Security Advisor? Most people don't even know. They don't what that is. I didn't know.

Yeah. So the National Security Advisor, you're right there with the president. You're in on all critical decisions that are going to be made for anything. I don't care whether it's food security, water security, foreign policy, war, nuclear, you know, decisions. Every single thing that you're going to, that a president of the United States is going to make a decision on, the national security advisor is right. there. And I had that kind of relationship. He can't function without you. He can't. And the Democrats didn't want you there. Democrats didn't want me. And I'm a Democrat. Yeah. And you're the most knowledgeable man in the government. Oh yeah, big time. At that time, especially the people in the circle around

Trump and that those were that were coming into like to be heads of departments and stuff like that. You know, yeah. I mean, none of these people had this level, this set of experiences that I had had that not only were at the very strategic level, the national security level of our country that I had already demonstrated an ability to do. For decades. Yeah. And I also had five years of combat experience.

So I'm not a wallflower. And I'm not just some general or somebody sprinkled, you know, fairy doesn't poof, you're a general. Right. You're not a Kamala Harris. Yeah, yeah, right. I've been to Europe. End of the border.

Right. So if, so Trump asked you to resign? Yeah. And do you think if you, and if you, if you stayed that, if you didn't resign, you think you could have prevented all this rush the gate, all this stuff? Yes. Yes. Do you have any resentment towards Trump for him even asking you to resign? You know, I did. I did initially, and I talk a little bit about this. I make a comment in it about the movie in the film. I did because when I

You know the the actual resignation and you know if you serve in the military And I know you did you know there's a you can't put yourself between Scott it's like you've got a commander and you got a sergeant major and you screwed up So you're trying to play mom off a dad right and you try to get between those You know then and they're a good team you're crushed right You ain't you ain't going to win that they were squeezing Trump Yeah so Trump you know and the vice president, Pence, are elected.

I'm not. So I, you know, I saw it from my perspective of, and that's kind of the way it, you know, we and I, Trump and I have spoken about it, you know, over time, is that, you know, I wasn't going to put myself in between, like, okay, choose him or me. I'm not elected. Right, right.

I was appointed. And I'm also a military guy who grew up, you know, you know, all I ever wanted to do was to serve, right? And serve, especially in serving the army. So I understood responsibility and I understand taking responsibility and I understand self-accountability. And so I said, okay, you know, I'm not going to put myself in between. I'm not going to sit there and go, well, this is bullshit. I mean, you know, we had that, and I described the conversation in the room.

And it's really in the film is the first time I've ever talked about that inside the Oval Office, that meeting. And it's like I say, you know, those two guys that were in that. room to talk to Trump prior and probably a couple of days prior, Reintz previous, the chief of staff at the time, and Mike Pence, you know, the duly elected vice president of the United States. Right. You know, and so they basically, to me, they teamed up and they got rid of me because I had a great relationship with Trump. And I... You helped them get elected. Oh, I mean, I worked my ass off for that man. And, you know, a lot of veterans, you know, there's, I don't know, we probably got over 20 million veterans in this country, you know.

And I remember getting up every single day. We would travel around the country, do four, five. With Trump. Oh, with Trump. I would be the guy, all these other political hacks that would be there to kiss his ass, you know, at these various venues. And, you know, so then they'd all talk for a couple of whatever, you know, hour or two before Trump showed up. And then I'd go out and I'd introduce him.

Right. I'd introduce him and then he'd show up. And you didn't get paid a dime for that. Nothing. Yeah. Nothing. The only person that was genuine during that whole process was you. Yeah.

I mean, I mean, what I would say is that I was honored to be part of something that I thought was, was monumental for our country because the one thing that I talk about is this idea that the country, and I felt it then, I felt it in certainly in 2015. I kind of felt that at the tail end of my career, but more so in 2015 when I really started to look at, okay, we're going to get ready to go into another election here. and I had met Hillary Clinton, and she gave me the heby-jeebies. I mean, I did know. I mean, seriously, like, it's like, you know. It's like, you know. It's like, you know. Oh, my God, man, you get, you get that, you know, I mean, everything's like, whoa.

And, and, uh, everything. I mean, crawl right off. Right. And so, you know, when Trump's, when Trump decided, I met him a month after he decided and went down in New York to meet him. And I just felt like, man, this is what the country needed. Right. Because like him or not, you know, whether you think Orange Man is bad or not, you know,

Orange Man is authentic. And the one thing that Orange Man loves is he loves his country. And I could tell that from the second I met him. And, you know, in the conversations, the early conversations, and then the back and forth that we had for the next couple of months was really, it was honest. And I'm not one of these guys that, like, I don't give a shit whether you're, you know, you're a king, prince president, big time, you know, big shot like Trump. I've never been enamored by that kind of stuff, you know.

And it just, I'm just, maybe that's the way I grew up because we were like, you know, treat people like you like to be treated kind of thing. Right. And that's the way my old man was. So anyway. President Prince, Mike Pence, he didn't fight for you. Not at all. Oh, no, no.

Pence threw me to the wolves. Yeah. He orchestrated that entire meat. Oh, yeah. He definitely did because, you know, Pence was part of the establishment. Pence was put there as the vice president handed to Trump, okay? Trump can say what he wants, but he ain't talking about Pence these days, is he? Nope.

That whole movie changed my opinion to that guy. Yeah. I have a lot of resentment for you. Yeah. Mike Pence, yeah. I mean, and I'm not one of these people that's like, I don't have hate in my heart. Yeah. I just don't.

You know, I wouldn't raise that way. I was raised to be tough and hold people accountable because, you know, if you did something wrong in my house, you felt it. But to this day, I mean, Trump called me up, you know, and I won't throw out the things about, you know, the, you know, the pardons because I think that's a really, that's a good part about the movie that a lot of people need to know. Yeah, because it's like, yeah, it's like, wow, you know, we never. I never wanted to talk about that because, you know, it's like, but now I want people to know that because that is a very, very tough decision. So Trump calls me up to say, hey, I'm going to give you a pardon. And I, you know, I talk about that conversation in the film. And it's, it's a good conversation. It's, it's lighthearted, you know. But to this day, sitting here with

you guys, whatever the date is, you know, in 2024, to this day, Mr. Mr. Gunnard. Godlike faith man, whatever you want to call him, total bullshit has never called me up. Yeah. He's never called me up to say, and I fully expected, after Trump and I hung up, I fully expected to get the phone to ring and go, you know, General Flynn, we got the vice president of the United States on the phone. He wants to, you know, he wants to thank you or congratulate you, right? Right. To this day, that man has not called me up to say, Mike, I'm so sorry what happened to you. and your family.

And to me, that's unforgivable. Yeah. And I don't hate the man. I, you know, like I said, I don't have, I don't hold hate in my heart. But to me, it's unforgivable. You know, I will never, those are the type of people, because if there's one thing with me in my, in our family, particularly in our family growing up, my father, particularly my father, but my mother was good, too, we developed a sense of loyalty.

loyalty to our I'm one of nine brothers and sisters I mean we would we would try to kill each other inside of the you know the 1200 square feet that we had but but when we walked out that door and you messed with one of us you know you were going to come after all of us kind of deal so

you know and so there's a sense of loyalty that I have and I have loyalty because of my service in uniform and you know and I was like you know and I stayed loyal to Trump I stayed loyal to I mean I could have come out and said actually They wanted me. The DOJ wanted me to figure something out. They wanted me to lie about anything. Yeah, I noticed that.

They used your son as leverage so you would cop some kind of plea. Right, right. I mean, the things they did to you, the accusations about you cheating on your wife. Right. They had been a huge strain on your marriage. Right. Unbelievable. You know, I mean.

These people... To attack a war hero, a guy who served the country for 20 plus years. You're 33, almost 34 years, and five in combat, you know, and all over. over the world, you know, and rose to the highest levels of the field that I chose, right? And they talk about they love our military. Oh, these people are terrible. And so anyway, you know, on all this stuff, you know, I just want, I want people to understand that this is this film and this story is about America.

And it's about, you know, so if I'm a vessel for this, for this scenery of what it is that we're facing because this is where it began. I mean, it began by taking out a guy and they, you know, they use other language because in a, in a, in a piece of evidence that we got in September or October of 2020. So like literally like two months before the election, we get one other huge piece of evidence from the lead FBI agent by the name of, oh, Christ, I'll think about it in a said, but Barnett, Barnett, Agent Barnett. He was the lead agent for Crossfire Hurricane. And he basically, you know, was being brought under the gun

because the Durham investigation was still going on. And he was, so he did a, he did a, like a deposition type statement. And in it, it's like nine pages long, you can find it online. And in it, he basically says, we're going to, you know, the whole thing was get Flynn to get Trump. Yeah. He was the lead agent for Crossfire. Crossfire hurricane.

That man picked me up 19 times to drive over to the Mueller team 19 different times in the time that I was cooperating as a witness for them, right? And every time I went over there, they would try to get me to say something, you know, that would be against Trump. And I'm sitting there going, you know, like they'd go, okay, we got a picture of you and this guy together, you know, so tell us about this guy. I was like, when was that, you know? And it would be at some event.

And I'd go, there was 3,000 people there. I probably took 500 pictures. You know? And that's, you know, early on, you kind of just feel like these people, and I don't know how much we can, you know, swear, because I'm a, I still am a soldier at heart. But I mean, these people are assholes, okay? And I mean, seriously, they are, they are really, really bad.

And I, you know, and I don't mean to get that way. But, but I just, I need, I need your audience to know that we are facing evil. You know, these are like, like, you know, it's one thing to oppose somebody politically and go, okay, and everybody that goes, well, you know, we'll get them at the elections. Well, if our elections aren't fair, I mean, I've called every name in the book, you know, one of which is election denier, right? I don't deny that we have elections.

I deny that they're fair. Right. That's all. And so, you know, all of this, back to this film, all of this is to say, look, number one, watch this thing because you're going to, you're going to, you're going to. going to watch it and you're going to go, you know, holy crap, I just didn't know. One of the things that, and we talk about this as an intro, but it's not necessarily not in the film itself, but for two years, my name was the most Googled name in the world, two years

in a row. And when you Google my name, so the way the algorithms are set up by the powers of you. You won't Google deciding who you are. No, right. Well, so I'm the most Google name in the world for two years running. So you type in Flynn or General Flynn or Mike Flynn, and it would immediately go to traitor, you know, treason, Putin spy, Russian spy, foreign. I mean, all these really nasty, nasty attacks, right? And that's why I say, like, now it's all about narratively assassinating somebody. Right. That's the world that we live in. And in this world of, you know, like we talk about with like fifth generation warfare, this is what you're looking at here. If they can see it. You know, they said Trump scammed a bank out of money. They said he's a rapist.

and they just find them guilty of 34 felony accounts for a hush money. I'm like that's exactly what they're doing. It's like our CIA intelligence agencies are using propaganda against our own citizens. Right, right, right. I mean, there's another great movie if people can watch. You know, this one's only about an hour. It's called Into the Light. Into the light.

And what you just said is the theme of that one hour that people can go and look it up on the Internet. I was recommended it. after I saw that movie. Yeah, Into the Light. And Into the Light talks about the machinery that goes back really to the 50s of propagandizing and projecting how Hollywood and the government wanted to manipulate all of us to start believing certain things, right? Right.

And to fall for all this craziness that we have fallen for. I mean, COVID was a si-out. COVID was a total sci-up. and you know do you get I mean does anybody get the flu anymore i mean i just and i don't want to joke about that because people died because of the results and the consequences of it but but our government our government and elements within our government particularly the intelligence community works with directly with uh the white house and and these things are called findings in some cases but they're they're they are fully approved they're well aware of it and when i say they it's the

leadership in the places like the CIA and the leadership in the White House, leadership in the National Security Council, probably in some cases, some cases, not all, leadership in the Pentagon, in the Department of Defense, certainly the leadership in the diplomatic community in the State Department, and definitely in the justice and particularly in the FBI. And so when you have this body, and now you bring together in essentially an interagency coordination team, a cell of a bunch of people like that that are all bureaucrats, for the most part, few appointed people who are looking and saying, okay, how can we manipulate the American people? How can we cause the American people to think a certain way?

And then they work, you know, as we, as Tucker is really great in this thing, Tucker Carlson, you know, and how his description of the media. Right. So that part in the relationship between, you know, organizations of record, Washington Post, New York Times, and others, that are working directly with the intelligence community, principally the CIA. So, I mean, these are like, I'm not making this shit up. Some of them are still on payroll. Oh, yeah, no. There are many of them are on the payroll.

So all this stuff against corrupt, that's a sci-op. It's so bad. It's so bad. I mean, and that particular Judge Marchant in New York, he's not, you know, he didn't allow any of the real evidence to be presented that that should have been presented. Now, what's going to happen? I think it's September 18th, if I'm not mistaken, is the sentencing date. So that judge, I believe, is going to put Trump in jail. And I do. I mean, why wouldn't he? You know, I mean, Trump's just been, you know, in his court and in front of a jury, his. just been convicted of 34, you know, counts, whether, you know, it's all, to me, it's like, it's just more of the same shit, excuse me, that they're going after this man. I remember the judge's instructions to the jury before I went to go deliberate. He says, you don't, you have, as members of the jury, you don't have to agree with what crime he committed. Right. That's like, when you convict somebody of a crime, everybody has to agree on what that

crime was. He totally waived all of that. Plus he, plus he, like, chunked and he, like, put him in blocks, the jury into blocks. Like, you guys focus on knees, you focus on, I mean, there's just so many bad, bad things. And in our system of justice, if we, you know, if we actually have a fair system, you know, in an appeals process, this thing would be looked at and it would be a joke. But Trump, these people should be disbarred. Well, I mean, or more. I mean, you know, there There's, there's, there's, there's, there's, it's actually treason. It's treason to me because, you know, maybe it's not Marchant so much, but some of these other things that we've been talking about, these people undermine a duly elected president of the United States, not only as he was coming into office after he had been elected, but they did, then they decided to actually do it when he was the president. Yes.

And you know what's fun? That's called treason. Yeah, you know, it's funny. It keeps saying Republicans are a threat to democracy. Yeah, yeah. Well, some Republicans are. Yeah. Vince is one.

I mean, some Republicans are. One of them is just over in Ukraine the last 24 hours with a, you know, a stolen valor Democrat, two senators. Oh, no, no, not Waltz. I'm talking about guys that are, that are, Waltz is governor of Minnesota. He's got other problems, right? Right. But Lindsey Graham and Blumenthal out of Connecticut. I mean, Blumenthal, you know, you were a Marine.

Blumenthal lied about, you know, his service. Yeah. A lot of people think this is a Democrat. It's not a Democratic Republican Republican, it's everybody. Yeah, it's not. This is, there is, there is such a, there's such a strong hold, like a chokehold, principally in Washington, D.C., but what I think a lot of people have seen, and I've, I've discovered this as I've going around the country, and I like to go, you know, I like to stop it, like gas stations, and I like to go down into, into, into, churches and I like to go into, you know, go walk the street and go talk to people, grassroots people and go, so how do you feel? A lot of people feel the same way. This, this chokehold that

we've seen in Washington, D.C., by these corrupt politicians, it actually is starting to permeate down into the local level, you know, down into, I mean, you know, district attorneys who are, they're releasing, like, murderers and they're throwing, you know, somebody who smokes some pot, you know, into jail, or just, or not even that, right? somebody who protested at a Planned Parenthood, you know, center. So you protest, you get thrown in jail, you murder, don't worry, you know, we'll give you a, you know, probation for six months. Yeah, what's that happened up in Loudoun County?

I think it was at a school board meeting. Yeah, it was children. And the parents. Yeah. And they called them terrorists? Well, the young girl was raped. Right. And I think in a bathroom by, you know, a kid, another young kid in the school.

in the school, the school knew about it. Transgender, right? Well, it, transgender was part of the whole problem, but a young girl was raped. They ended up moving the child that raped her to another school. They knew about it in the school system. They did it without telling the parent, they find out the, you know, blew up in the school board hearing,

and the father went to the school board hearing. You can imagine, I don't know if you guys could, you know, I mean, I have kids and I have grandkids. And, you know, I would have freaked out. I would have acted just like that dad. I might even done something worse. Right. And he did the intelligence community get involved with that.

Well, I mean, you know, it's not so much that as the, you know, down at the local level. What has happened is the intelligence community at the top level works to basically try to control who's ever in power. Right. So you got an elected official. or a guy like me. So as a military officer, I'm going to be appointed into a job, and I'm only going to be there for a short period of time.

A couple of, you know, in my case a couple of years, you know, you're in a job for a couple of years. Well, these bureaucrats sit there and they go, you know, okay, this guy thinks he's going to be a tough guy and he's going to come in here and do all these things. We'll just wait them out because we're going to be here for like 20 years, 25 years, 30 years, in bureaucrats now, right? And then you get these members of Congress

and you get these members of the House, or the Senate, and they're there for like six years, 12 years, 20 years. I mean, Joe Biden's 50 years. Right. You know? So you get these people that are, that they're so, they forget why they're there. Maybe when they were young and they, you know, they were full of it, they were like, now I'm going to go and I'm going to save the world, right?

And then they get there and somebody goes, okay, I can take care. What's your house payment? You got a house here. Don't worry about it. We'll take care of you. What's your house, Pam? Are you from what state, Florida or Brumada? You know, I'll take care of that. Don't worry about it. You got kids going to school. In fact, we know you got three kids in school, two kids in college, or one kid getting ready to go, we'll take care of that. You want to, you know, I see that you like boating.

You know, I mean, these are the kinds of things that happen. Okay? And that's the, you know, the corruption, the extortion in many cases, right? and these people, they take it. They absolutely take it. There's very few, probably, you know, maybe this many senators, okay? The fingers on my hand, maybe. And that's really high ball in it to say that there's five senators, U.S. senators, that are not compromised, okay?

Members of the House, there's very, very few members of the House that aren't compromised. Compromise being either you've done something like I, just to say, described and you accepted it, or you got caught doing some other weird stuff, right? Like you got caught doing some, you know, some, I mean, you know, hanky, pinky. He got caught banging a trainee behind the- whatever. Right? Yeah.

So, I mean, I'm like, say what, you know. Nobody wants that to get out. No, no, my God. But that's the kind of, you know, I mean, they go overseas. So members of the House and members of the Senate, they want these delegations overseas, okay? and these people overseas are smart. And they get them, you know, and they check you out. They study you before you come over.

And they know you like Manhattans, right? Or they know you like a little bit of extra whiskey in your drink or whatever, whatever. You like this stuff. Or they find out that you got an extramarital affair going on back home. And, you know, you've been married to some same woman maybe for 25 years or whatever. And you got, you know, you got a little extra marital thing going on. And, you know, she's like 19, 18, 17 back home. And so they present that kind of thing to you while you're overseas, okay?

And, you know, and they nail you. And maybe you've got, you know, a different way to look at people. Like you're looking at, you know, maybe you're in the behavior where you're in that LGBTQ plus, you know, X, Y, Z community. So they find out about that. And they will put those things in front of you while you're there. Pictures. And, yeah, pictures, videos. You know, and so most members, especially when they first come in, are not that smart.

These people are not that smart. Right. You know, they might have education from, you know, somewhere else. You know, they might Harvard and Yale and, you know, Princeton, it's all bullshit. Right. You know, and there's a very few, like I like to see a lot of veterans. There's more and more veterans that are stepping up, and I love to see that because at least they have a little bit of, particularly the ones that I am aware of, they got a little bit of school of hard knocks, you know. and they've had, they've been tested in a different way.

And I do believe that their patriotic spirit will override the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and create this sort of corrupt activity. But there are a few that have, that have, you know, fallen for it. So, anyway, I mean, this is what happens. So this is the reality. What I'm telling you in your audience, this is the shit that happens. And because, frankly, this is the kind of stuff that our government try to. to do against some people that we because, you know, the world of intelligence in the government against government, you know, in the spying world is a very real thing. This is not Mission

Impossible or, you know, or James Bond. This is real stuff. It's hard work. And it's necessary. And if you're going to cross a line, you have to get permission to cross the line. If you're going to cross an ethical or a moral line, you've got to get permission. You've got to get permission to do it. And if it's for the good of the country and it's being handled properly by the right people who are frankly honest and they're, and they track it and they, but see, we don't, that's like, everything that I'm telling you, forget about that because it doesn't exist. Right, right. Okay. Now, you know, having this information about what's going on overseas. Yeah. And I know the media, they have absolutely no integrity when they look at the Bidens and

Hunter Biden and his business dealings overseas, there's always nothing to see here. There's nothing to do. And Biden totally says, I don't deal with my son in his business. He's got to know. Yeah, he definitely knows. And that's clear. I mean, that's all you read the various reports that have come out on this thing. It is insane.

That's a quick investigation. Yeah, I mean, it should be. It should be. And you know what? I mean, if it was like a kid that had drug problems, and that was his only problem. They're going to use it against them. Yeah, and maybe that, you know, the drug problems led to, you know,

marital problems or whatever. I mean, you know, it's like there's so many things that we can kind of look at as a society and go, okay, get some help, right? But now we're not talking about that, okay? We're talking about him going over to China and having a business partner who was the top Chinese intelligence official in China. That's nuts. And then having business relationships in Ukraine.

This is why Ukraine is so important. It's why we got all this money flowing over to Ukraine because we don't want people really in this country to find out exactly what Ukraine is, what's happening in Ukraine, what's truly happening in Ukraine, okay? So you have, you know, he's operating over there. Bristma is the name of the company.

So hunters over there, there, no business at all being over there. He's got no background. He's got no experience, and he's getting paid millions of dollars. And then we find out that, you know, a certain percentage goes to the big guy, right? And this was provided in testimony to Congress. And, you know, and Hunter's getting an ungodly amount of money, not because he knows anything. It's because of the relationship with his father and then the access that he could provide for those people. And that's proven their access into the White House meetings that they had it's all it's there so it's not like i'm making this stuff up right then that's when facebook twitter and everybody starts censoring that

story right right and and and uh and then you're you know you're if you cover it you know then they try to make hunter out to be uh you know to just be this drug addicted guy you're struggling with drugs right you all seen it the you can clip the same even wrote a book about it yeah but i don't know you've clipped this in, but I like the one that, and somebody, you know,

the Biden's Jill and Joe are out in the porch there in the White House, you know, the second floor, they're out there at some event that they're looking out, you know,

they got the family there and hunters back there with the, with, I guess the wife or whatever, whoever the woman was, they're carrying a baby, and he kind of hands the baby to her

and he does a quick, like that, right? Like, he goes behind, like Joe and Jill. You see that? You know what I'm talking about? I haven't seen it. Oh, my God.

You got to go watch. I'll put the clip right here. Oh, my God. It's like so, you know, you watch that and he goes back, right? And, you know, I'm just reflecting what I saw, right? Right. So. That is insane.

Unbelievable. And somebody sent that, and it was floating around the internet on social media, and you look at it and you think, okay, is this AI? Because I understand AI and how AI can be manipulated. There isn't one AI, they were there. And you look at it and you go, that's some of a bitch, is up there doing drugs. right there in front of the world, you know? And you kind of go, you got, you know, it's like, you know, in a funny way, you kind of go,

okay, man, I give the guy a lot of credit, you know, but no, this is like for real, this is the presidency of the United States of America, this is about your, you know, you guys, your audiences, their families, the future of our country. It's no more, this is no more about Republicans and Democrats. Right. This is about whether you want this country to continue. to be, you know, this beautiful constitutional republic where there's a free, you know, there's a fair justice system. I mean, you know, we, you know, everybody knows the various communities that we have

in our country that have been persecuted for so long. But now, but now you're being persecuted for your political views, which is different, you know? Really weird. And that's happened, that's, you know, it's really started to happen a number of years ago, but now it's gotten even worse. And so it's like, you know, so a guy like me, I mean, I'm a Democrat going into the White House with Donald Trump. I serve the military, I serve, you know, honorably in the military, a great, great career in the military, you know, I mean, really, you know, change a lot of what we did to fight our enemies. And, and I've never been, you know, a guy that I'm not a guy that's going to, you know, hey, look at me, pat me on the back. I'm just going to work hard. I'm going to

outwork people, and I'm going to go do the right thing. And the right thing sometimes is the harder choice to make. And my message to people is that, you know, it's kind of like, and one of the things for this, for this film, you know, the question that I want people to ask when you watch this, and the same question that I would say to you guys is, what are you willing to fight for? You know, because if you're willing to fight for something, you're willing to die for something. And so you've got to decide at some point in time in your life, you know, like if you get censored, you know, the Hodge twins, geez, you guys are so amazing. And, you know, but if somebody said, they could do it overnight. They could do it right now.

And, you know, then, and that's your livelihood. Let's say that's your livelihood, right? And that's how you put bread on the table for your families. Right. And you're censored. And it's like, you know, and maybe you got, you know, a month or two down the road that you can handle your mortgage. and your car payments and your kids and everything else. But all of a sudden, and you're like, so now, you know, do you fight,

you know, like your T-shirt, fight, fight, fight, like Trump says, right? Yeah, you have. And, you know, do you fight for, you know, hey, this is not right? And it isn't right because you're not doing anything. You're practicing your ability, your freedom, you're, you know, our First Amendment right to be able to say what we want to say. You know, so, you know, that's not like, because you guys aren't, you know, you're not, you're not attacking, you know, certain things that are, that are real mean.

You're just bringing, you're bringing out issues. And so I think that the American people and your audience is a big one and a good one and a smart one because of what you guys do. People have to understand that. There is a choice right now that you have. Right. And like Trump or not, because you asked me earlier, you know, did I hold that, was I, you know, have any animosities towards them? And I did for a while, you know, but I, but I can see.

through it because I understand the risk that our country is facing. And the risk that our country is facing is that we will lose our country here if we're not careful. So that's my big message is to think about what are you willing to fight for and then get out there and do it. You know, get out there and, you know, go to church, serving your community. Get out there and, you know, go to church, serving your church, you know, don't just be a wallflower and, and let somebody else do it. And I know, I got that. There's so many people. busy and you're working two jobs, three jobs, or whatever, raising kids, you know, then then make sure that you're raising them right. I mean, put more effort into that, you know.

And you get the facts out of it because that watching that move, that's a huge investment in our country. Oh, yeah. In the future of our country. It is. I mean, this is a very, very historic. It's about a little bit about history, but it's not, it's not like history like boring. Right. This is a very historic. It's not like the history channel. No, no. And so it's a very telling story and the story basically is one of it's inspiring but it's a story of survival yeah you survived a lot and here I am yeah you got a friend here this uh yeah specializes in sobs right siops i love the way you say that siops it's that big thick negro tongue I got yeah from the south soaps soaps like something you find in the barbecue right

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Right Gentlemen, it's good to be here Speaking of Saoop man Yeah I watch you guys All the time I got one question for you

Because I haven't seen This answer Do you mind? You guys are some big boys But your brothers What were the fights Like grown up? You know what

To be honest Because you look like You get along All the time But I think Sometimes One of you got Cross with the other words

Yeah I think Like when we fight, we don't punch, we get stringling each other. Yeah. I don't have this of his face. It's like, looking at yourself. Yeah, I can't hear him or something to face. So we can't strangle each other.

I'll kill you, you're a black woman. But you know what? We've been on this planet almost 50 years now. I could say we probably have how many fights. Not fist fights, arguments. Yeah. We got a pretty good one in London, though. Oh, yeah, yeah.

I almost killed him in London. Except for that one time Throwing suitcases at me Yeah We just robbed that It was from the fifth floor right No Keep us push my buttons

We couldn't agree on what we was gonna eat that night Because we were trying to lose weight Was gutting Yeah And I said you know I'm tired of the shit We just Lost it Yeah

It was weird because we was going to do some comedy shows out there And customs stopped us Yeah we didn't ask Yeah shut up Let me do the talkin And we didn't have the correct visa to be in London. So we were stuck in immigration for like hours.

They let us out. So it was real stressful, been flying for six hours, so we just got stressed out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but we fight, but not like this fight.

No black on black crime between us. That's fantastic. I think a lot of people can learn from you. I really do. Especially the black community. It's great being here because we can't say that. I'll say it. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it's a crazy, I mean, I have nine brothers and sisters, five brothers, four sisters. And like I said, we would fight terribly in our house because it was a small house. Joe said you hung him out of second floor window. I did. And, you know, and I mean, but, you know, when you come outside and, you know, and you're together, it's like a great family. And that's important. That was important.

I got older brother. He was tired on me. I think you got out, Master. Massard, probably. B8 Massard, I think. It's great. Yeah. So we're here, and one of the things that we have,

Boone and I, we wrote these books, and the first one there, Citizens Guide to Fifth Generation Warfare, introduction to 5GW, which is what we're involved in right now. This is what we're facing globally and certainly here in the United States of America. And it's a, you know,

it's a combination of sort of the different types of warfare, you know, and Boone can go into the, he goes into the rhyme and versa and should because he's a real expert. But I think probably for you is to tell the audience, because I'm not sure, you know, there may be some people that know you, but your background is really fascinating. Not only is a, you know, in where you are today, but sort of what got you here. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a, it's a great story. And it's one that I just, I have to give all the credit to God for because, you know, that's where I was discharged in the military. I was injured in Iraq.

I spent two years at Walter Reed Army Medical Center recovering from those injuries. And then I basically left there with a hefty addiction and continued to have a lot of injuries. And that was the thing. So about two years after Walter Reed, I got off all the drugs. And when I got off all the drugs, I got into veteran advocacy.

And it was all spurred on by the fact that I was walking from where we were at at the Malone House. I was walking over to the main hospital one day, really crying out to God, saying, why don't you do something about this? because there was just so much, so much, just a lot of problems. I was there during the neglect scandal of 2007. I was there 2006 to 2008, so I was there for two years.

And I just did that proverbial calling out to God saying, do something about this. And literally God, I feel like God called me a bitch. He was like, fuck you, you do something about it. You know, I gave you the skills, make it happen. And it was very directed. And then it was the whole thing, well, who am I? I'm just a sergeant. That would take like a car.

or somebody who could have some sort of influence. You know, I'm not the guy for that. And then I got off all the drugs, and it was like, no, I think I can be the guy for that. And because people just weren't speaking up in the way about the things that I knew were true. And so I ended up getting a job on a radio show. I released my first book and doing the veteran advocacy thing. And I started doing veteran advocacy in a really weird way because I started talking about cannabis. And people were like, oh, you can't talk about cannabis.

I'm like, bullshit. it, you know, because, you know, I did all the drugs. I did all the drugs that the medical science had to offer that they said were going to make me better, that they were going to be helpful. Right. It didn't help at all. And then after I checked myself into the VA and I did two weeks in a lockdown unit, detoxing, coming off all the drugs.

But then I got out of there and I still couldn't sleep. And I was at work and this young kid says to me, man, you look like, hell, what's wrong? I said, I can't sleep. And he goes, once you smoke weed. I was like, fuck you, dude. I don't smoke weed. I'm not one of those. guys. I'm just not that guy.

Right. And then I went one more night and I didn't sleep. And I'm laying there awake thinking, I've literally done everything medical science has to offer. I've taken every pill. I've done every modality. I've got up in the morning, watch the sunrise and go down, reset my circadian rhythms. You know what I mean? I've done the PT.

And still, I can't sleep. So I'm like, what haven't I tried? I haven't tried cannabis. So the next day I told you to say, he gave me some weed. He gave me some weed and that night I slept five hours. And I hadn't slept five hours. I mean, no nightmares, no pain, straight five hours. I hadn't done that in almost five years.

And I thought, this is some bullshit, right? And my background of psychological operations, I started looking at this whole thing, you know, what made it, how did it become the way that it is? So demonized and everything else. Stigmatized. And then I learned about it. I was like, wait a minute, it's non-toxic to humans.

It has the addiction rate of coffee. Right. You can't OD on it. It's a freaking vexable. Okay. And literally, it's safer than great. grapes. Right.

I mean, kids die every month drinking, drinking energy drinks. Right. But cannabis was somehow illegal. Red grapes. Yeah, I think it's the red grapes. But it was safe for the grapes because people choke on grapes. Nobody ever choked on weed.

Well, they do, but you don't die from it. And this is some bullshit. So the next day, I said, I want to try it again. Maybe the last night, maybe I was exhausted. I was three days in no sleep. And I was willing to do anything not to go back to the VA and say, you were right. Let me have my pills back.

And that's what pushed me over that edge. So the next night, I smoked weed again. I slept for five hours. No pain, no nightmares. I was like, oh, I got to tell everybody. Right. I got to tell everybody. And that was really that first thing that I clawed onto with the veteran health and the advocacy.

And then I wrote something called the Spartan Pledge was the anti-suicide campaign. It's just two lines. So I want to take my own life by my own hand until I talk to my battle buddy first. My mission is to find a mission to help my warfighter family. You guys know by being in the military that, you know, two is one in one. is none. And then we get out of the military. Especially with us. Especially with you guys. Then you get

out of the military and it's the most amazing thing and I really liken it to this. What do you call, you go in the military, you're 17, you're 18, you're 19 years old, you know, you build a bond, you become trauma bonded with people, you go through experiences other people don't go through. That sounds really does sound like a family.

And then you get out of the military, what do you call it when you're being separated from your family, you're orphaned. Right. And so when guys get off active duty, it's like being orphaned. So what do you have to do. You have to reestablish. I basically start using the same skills about messaging and campaigns to start building community. Right. And to, so guys will start talking to each other and to take a pledge with each other because we take pledges very seriously. It's not a joke. You know, so when a warfighter says to another warfighter, hey, bitch, when some shit goes down, you fucking

call me. You call me. You do what you're going to do because you're a grown man. But you call me first because don't leave me spinning around this earth wondering what the hell happened and me blaming myself because I wasn't there for you. Give me the opportunity. So guys, take the Spartan pledged not for themselves, but they take it for the other guy. So the other guy knows what to do in that situation. So it's a battle drill. It's what to do when you don't know what to do. Just the idea, you know, the word separation, when they separate us from the military, you're being, like if you guys were separated, you're separated from something, it's like you're like being left out there. You're just being pushed away, and you're being separated

from something that you loved, right? You love being with your battle buddies. You love being in the military. You loved your team. And now we're going to separate you. We use that word, separation, right? Right. And that's, it's the whole stigma of why we have an incredible level still of suicide rates for people that have been separated from the military. Right. And I think the numbers were always 22.

I actually think we're higher than that now. Well, when they first came out with that number 22 a day, that was with only eight states reporting. So that number could have easily been three, four times higher. Yeah, I remember when I was getting out military, we had to take a class before he checked out because a lot of people. people suffer from depression. Right. And, you know, going back to, you know, civilian life, just this morning I was looking at TikTok where a guy was getting out of Army, he burst in tears because he didn't want to,

he didn't know what to do, his family was gone. He didn't have no identity anymore. It's an identity crisis. It's exactly right. And that's the thing that we don't understand. That's why you see a guy, I have so much respect for a lot of the military apparel companies, you know, like the flag on your arm there, you know, that came, people don't realize that, but that came from the military uniform.

You know, we transferred it over to T-shirts. And in past generations of war, guys would come home and they would still wear their fatigues, so they could identify. But nowadays, there's military apparel, you know, T-shirts and hats and everything else. And so people can identify each other, and they still have that sense of identity. And I'll tell you, since 2010 and now, this community has truly built itself, has created an identity unlike before. before you had the veteran service organizations,

but now you've got, I mean, look at, look at irreverent warriors, you know, look at VET TV, look at Black Rifle Coffee, look at Grunt style. They have an entire industry that is there solely so veterans can stay connected. They can remain in the family. And I tell people all the time,

you know, hey, when you get out of the military, the first thing you do is you get checked in, you find the veterans in your community. And because they're the ones who are going to tell you, hey, this is the claim you need to file. Or, hey, this is the great doc at the VA. or hey, this is what's going on for your educational benefits. Or, hey, you know, get down to the Bet Center and check in with them, you know, once a month or so just to keep your head straight and find out what's going on.

That's your network. And so, you know, you call it on active duty. It's a little bit different because you're kind of, you're there under contract. You're forced to be there. So you have to find that network when you get off active duty. But once that happens, once you reestablish community and you know what to do when you don't know what to do, the suicide rate goes like that. Right. You need structure.

You need structure. And since then, I've been promoting stem cells, psychedelics. I think psychedelics are absolutely amazing. We just started psychedelics. I sleep so good now. I get so much work done. My energy went up. And I sleep so good.

Oh, the microdosing, you're doing psilocybin? Yeah, microdose. Absolutely love it, you know. And, you know, the floods, the Ibogaine influence, getting guys unaddicted, you know, stopping unretractable depression. And it's totally ridiculous. You know, the VA was moving in that direction. and the FDA came out and said MDMA is addictive,

or potentially addictive. That is completely a lie, you know, and if anybody goes back and they look what was happening with psychedelics, and I'm not talking hippie, dope-spoken love stuff. I'm talking the medical science. In the 60s, psychedelic medications were actually curing addictions, curing depression, alcoholism, curing it. And then somebody said, okay, what is the mechanism of this?

Okay, well, it's reestablishing the serotonin in the brain. So instead of doing that, what did pharma do? If pharma comes out and goes, we're going to come out with these SSRIs to give you a little bit of serotonin. So you have to take it every single day. Makes you addicted. But then you're addicted to it.

Now you're stuck on it. It only worked for 30% of people when they tried it. But the psychedelics, I mean, from the time I learned guys were going down to Mexico and figuring this out on their own, it became such a thing. And the United States, again, just like they did it with cannabis, complete psychological operation,

it is a lie. You know, as much as I hate the military industrial complex, I can't stand the medical industrial complex. Right. Pharmaceutical companies. There's some great stuff that's happened. It's saved a lot of lives. But the manipulation of government that they do, which sets the laws and says you and you and me can't do something to save your own life that is non-toxic to humans and has the addiction rate of coffee is total bullshit.

Right. And that's just common sense. Now, if people want to go back and, you know, tell me, stories about what happened to Hayd Ashbury in 1968, okay, that's fine. That's that time and place. We're talking about doing things responsibly, but also having the tools to take responsibility for

ourselves. Right. That's right. So that's my campaign for the veteran community. Yeah, we just partner. What's the name of that organization to help veterans get off smoking? There's other alternatives. Smoklessvets.org. Yeah. That's good. And then we had a football player, and he told me about the psychedelics and, man.

Increase your productivity and it helps you sleep like a baby yeah it's it's fantastic and I've gone you know I've I've gone down to Mexico I've sat in ceremony you know I've done nine grams of shrooms with DMT I'm not at that level yet I'll tell you I really wasn't either and I didn't I didn't just jump into it you know I did trumes yeah yeah yeah shrooms you know psilocybin but what DMT is the only thing that creates a neurogenesis so myself I was discharged from the military with 30% disability just for brain damage just for brain damage and my Since I've done these types of treatments, that brain damage has now been assessed at 10%.

It rewires your brain. It rewires your brain. Gets rid of the trauma clusters, builds new neurons, build your brain. Neurogenesis is a real thing. Everything that he's talking about is not just for veterans. No. There's people that have had trauma from accidents or from, you know, just from life, you know, their lifestyle, whatever. And these are the kinds of things.

And, you know, the big pharmaceutical industry will not, they will not address this stuff. because it'll take away from their ability to be able to addict you to something else. There were times when they were giving me opiates, this is crazy, they were giving me opiates, and I would look at it because they say how much was spent for this prescription. Right.

I was on like 90 milligrams of morphine, 70 milligrams of oxycontin routinely, like daily, which is disgusting. It's crazy. But they were pushing it out there. And then you started- And doctors was giving it to you. Oh, no, I wasn't bite off the street.

This was my VA prescription. Right, right. This was my VA prescription. It was one pain killer for the painkiller, and the other one was for breakthrough pain. What does breakthrough pain? It means you got a tolerance, so it takes it more shit. That was the breakthrough pain.

I encourage everybody to go watch that film, Doapsick. Yeah. That series Dobsick really lays it out. I wish they put it a little bit more, of course, for myself, they would have put a little bit more on what was happening in the veteran community because that shit was sponsored in whole by the government to veterans of our country. In whole. It still is.

And the stem cells. I'm a huge fan of stem cells. You know, stem cells can't. Oh, we got a guy coming on tomorrow. We're actually going to go to Columbia. Yeah. Oh, you're going to bio accelerator? Yep, yeah.

I went down to Panama on my first time because my heart gave out. I had six months to live. My wife, I was in a wheelchair. My wife had, and this was all secondary to the brain damage. But my wife, God bless her, you know, she was able to arrange some things. And my mother was involved and people really pulled together around me. And it saved my life. I mean, I was in a wheelchair.

Get this. I was in a wheelchair, and no babies were harmed during the stem cell treatment. Right. You know, this is from an abilical cord that somebody's going to throw on the trash anyway. Right. Again, does that make sense? No, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make any sense.

So they were giving me these injections in my quads, in my shoulders, and a couple six CTIBs. Within two days, remember, I was dying of heart failure, cardiomyopathy, and stage three kidney disease. I was dying. I was in the death spiral. Could not walk when I got there. Within two days, I was able to leave the room, go downstairs, walk to the coffee, shop, get my wife coffee, and bring it back to her. Two days. Stem cells. Stem cells. A lot of those type of treatments is bad in America.

Ban in America. I went down to CPI, sell you the performance institute down in Tijuana, by a year and a half ago with my wife, got another round, and now they started working on some joint stuff, and, man, this is the deal. I mean, this is how we get healthy. Right. I mean, and we get to actually recover, not like, hey, here's another pill, get down to the pharmacy. say, how does it suck? You have to be on a prescription. You can't take a trip with your family. You're like, no, I can't do it that way

because I got a refill coming in. You are bound and chained to that. Right. And you don't have to be. Right. I got a friend. He could barely walk. He says, now he can run.

Wow. We all need to be telling these stories. We just all got to be telling these stories. And I think people are fed up. I think they get it. I don't think they're as susceptible as they used to be like, oh, the government's here to take care of you. You know, I don't think that,

I don't think that's the predominant, you know, emotion and feeling and sentiment right now. But the whole COVID thing, you know, in a way, probably backfired a little bit. Absolutely. Yeah. Shana light on it's just not, you know, we just don't trust this thing anymore, you know, this institution that's supposed to, you know, keep us healthy. And what we learn is that they're just hand over fist money.

Right. And we're not making you healthy. It's not making you healthy. When we wrote in between these two books, there's session two, it's how to fight artificial intelligence. And during the research on that, the amount. of AI-driven psychological programming, the most AI-driven psychological programming

worldwide, and what they did in Australia was criminal. I mean, that was some mingle of shit. Right. The things, the amount of AI-driven psychological programming because the real threat to AI right now is not the robots. It's not the machines. It's the AI-driven psychological programming. It's how everybody is being programmed

with individual propaganda, the algorithms, all of this, assessing susceptibilities, changing how people think, changing the framework of thinking. there was so much focus the areas we found the most use was COVID

the Vax transgender and Marxist ideologies those all went together it was full-blown worldwide all at once and it was all a bunch of bullshit and look how much dissension

it caused between individuals and their own families you know family members don't talk to me oh you're not Vax you can't come over or you're that you don't believe the election stuff too, a ton of stuff, AI-driven psychological programming and against election deniers.

I couldn't believe how, like, this last three or four years that's opened my eyes, how many people are just sheep. They believe whatever the TV tells them. Exactly. Or they turn off, because at the end of the day, when people are confused, they do nothing. This is what happens.

And that was really the impetus for General Flynn and I writing these books is because you have military-style manuals and you guys are in the military. You know, the one thing you have in the military is continuity of message. everybody knows the same information okay well from there comes continuity

of action in the civilian space people are confused there's no continuity of message everybody thinks that's the secret service that's the secret service and they kind of get it right in pieces these books tell you all the pieces so we can start beginning at least to have a conversation because we're speaking the same language right and that's the whole point of that

and a lot of these particularly the first one the introduction of 5GW what we learned was that as this thing started to get more and more exposed and the kinds of things, because this is not about, you know, family member against family member or neighbor against neighbor,

although that's what they're trying to convince us that it is, because it's to really create this sense of divisiveness, you know, and that's what these, so the four components that Boone just talked about, you know, finishing up with Marxism, and the idea is to divide and then conquer, right? Very simple.

And one of the things with 5GW, introduction of 5GW, is to really lay out, you know, what it is that in a very layman's language, very simple language, you know, not over the top acronyms or nothing like that, just say, very simple, here's what we're up against. Here's, you know, here's the, here's the, you know, like military does, right? It's training a, training a, training a new kid to be a, to be an expert on something, right? And I wouldn't say we're trying to be, to get people to expert level, but I will tell you, you, you dig into introduction of 5GW, you go through how to fight A, and, and, you go through how to fight

AI, and then the newest one is the role of the church, and you really think about it and put it in the perspective of where you are in your life, where you are in your community, where you are in your church, where you are in society, and you begin to realize, wow, this is all been one big lie. And now I have the tools to be able to stand up, understand it, and then do something about it. And that's really the, you know, for me, you know, particularly the first one, the introduction of 5GW, you know, we kidded each other about having an exam at the end of every chapter. Yeah, so did. That's neat. Right? And it's just, because it's like comprehension. And then people, people can kind of, you know how people, some people read. I'm not a reader from page one to page 100,

or whatever. I kind of jump around a little bit. And one of the first things that, that I've talked to people about is go to the test, right? I mean, in the military, it's like, you know, you teach the test. Go to the test and then go back in and dig in and see it. And then go back to the test and take it, right? And see what kinds of impacts, that things that, what you're reading about, what kinds of things are impacting your life right now. Because your environment, where you're at right now, and all the stuff that Boone just talked about, his background and the things that he's been through, all of that stuff has happened into every single person. You don't have to be in the military experience this yet. I mean, it's happening right now.

And I think that what we need is we do need a common language because, you know, like we talked about earlier, you know, this is not about Democrats and Republicans. And this is about the direction that we are being pushed and we're being pushed in that way by projection, by propaganda, by psychological operations, by influence in a world of artificial intelligence. Exactly. It's to make sure it's like, you know, so we're sitting here. right now, my phone is connected to the internet. Listen to us. Yeah, I'll walk out here. You know, you were telling the story the other day about whatever it was. Oh, yeah, I mean, I give this example, and everybody, every time I say it, people go, yeah, but they don't realize everybody else is going through the same thing,

okay, which is the sign of a well-planned psychological operation. You think it's only happened to you, this guy's going through it too. How many times you've been sitting in the, good example, you're sitting in the car with your spouse, you're driving home, okay, just you and your spouse in the car. Your spouse says, hey, we really need some laundry detergent. Right. And by the time you get to the driveway, there's an advertisement for laundry detergent. Right. Now, if they can do that for products and services, what makes people think they can't do that with ideology? Right. Because they do. They absolutely do. The algorithm on your IG, your Facebook. I forget the news broadcast I was looking at. The talk showed I was

looking at, but they said the growth of LGBTQ kids and just people in general has just exploded over the last 10 years. A lot of people, a majority of the population identifies as being some type of LGBTQ, which is crazy. In a certain demographic, an certain age group, I believe that. I believe that. Oh, it was Bill Marshall. It's like these kids or these people are being manufactured.

People don't, I'm sorry, sir. People don't realize that when we talk about generations of wars, it's like talking about generations of people. And the generations of people you're talking about are being affected by it because they don't understand the generations of war and how people are affected. In the first generation, it's all based on technology.

And just like with people, we've got Gen Z, we've got millennials, Gen Xers, whatever. In war, we have generations of war based on technology. So the first generation of war was pre-gun powder. We're talking like Braveheart, guys running out in fields and beating hell out of each other, and having each other.

Second generation of war is post-gun powder. Now you're seeing the guys on the same fields, except they're shooting at each other. We're in a third generation of war, now you're starting to see trench warfare, you're starting to see the lethality of war grow very dramatically with the use of vehicles, airplanes, tanks. Now you're starting to see long-range artillery.

At the end of the third generation of war, we're starting to see atomic weapons, very, very lethal. Fourth generation of war, now it's state and non-state actors working based on ideology, not exactly on what the state wants, but what an ideology wants. You see, like terrorism. Right. In the fifth generation of war, which is exactly what we're talking about, the break down a society, to break down the traditions of a society is solely based on the kind of. cognitive battle space. It's what's going on up here. And that's where we're at right now 24-7.

And in order to conduct a psychological operation, the first thing you have to have is access to your target audience. Everybody's got access. Right. It doesn't matter what NGO, what non-state actor, everybody has access to you now. They can speak your language the way you want to hear it. And the next thing is susceptibility to identify someone or a group's susceptibilities. These machines, you tell these machines every single day what you're susceptible to. Every time you click, like or share or make a comment that has a sentiment analysis. That's why these machines are used that way. Right.

Because we are in the fifth generation of war, quickly going through the sixth generation of war, which gets really scary because then everything is controlled by AI and autonomous drones. Social credit school. Social credit score. Yeah. Look at it by inflation is out of control, and this problem is only going to get worse.

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so I'm a TSA cleared guy, so I go there and I give the guy my ID card, and he says, slide it in the machine here, and he goes, look into the camera, and he goes, make sure you smile. So I didn't smile. I just, you know, because I'm like, I don't know, I'm not going to smile this morning, right?

It's just maybe I'm being, you know, a smart ass, but I won't go to smile. Right. The card comes out. He goes, and he's behind me. He's behind the machine, right? And he goes, it didn't work. slide it again. He says, hand me the card. He gets it. He wipes it off, you know. He says,

put it back in the machine. He goes, look into the camera and try to smile this time. I didn't smile. And it didn't work, right? In China, they have a, they have a system where if you don't smile, you can't leave your neighborhood. Wow. Okay? And it's a, and it's a, and it's all about, you know, social credit scores and the way that they operate because they want, You know, it's like a phoniness that they want the society to be in. Like, everybody's happy, right? Like the Lego movie. Everybody's happy.

When that happened to me the other day, you know, and so the final thing was, I never did smile in front of the camera. So the guy takes the card and he goes, I'm going to have to call my supervisor. And I'm, you know, I'm just, I'm standing there like, you know, looking like a white man trying to get through the airport, right? Right. That was your first mistake right there. I'm thinking to myself, this is really, this is wild, you know.

I wanted to see the process, right? So the young kid comes over who was half the age of the guy behind the screen. Superviles. Yeah, and he's got a, you know, kind of a beard, sort of looks like yours. And, you know, and he takes my ID card. He says, you know, let me have it. He goes like this. And he looks like this.

And he goes, okay, he's okay. And like, I'm like thinking of my stuff. So I need to go through that, right? Because this guy who was probably 24 years old, you know, doesn't, hasn't, and maybe the only job he's ever had. I don't even know. He could have been homeless and come off because, I mean, I look at, you know, they're in uniform.

His uniform needed to be pressed. You know, he needed to be squared away. I mean, at least put an iron to that thing, you know? Right. I mean, it was a mess. He looked like he had slept in that shirt. And so, and I'm thinking to myself, because I didn't smile to that camera. That's what's going, that's what's happening in our country.

right now because that's the government that's that's doing this so you know next time you do you go through something like that see watch watch what our government is is causing us to do right they want everybody to be happy right now i'm going to guess on those machines you know they get sentiment analysis by the things you type by how you move your phone by the things you listen to they also get it from your facial expressions so i'm guessing i don't have any you know special knowledge about that particular technology, but I know that the machines do. They pick up your sentiment analysis by your facial expression. I'm guessing if I'm running an airport and I want to make sure some guy doesn't come through

who's like really, really mad, that programming is going to be in the system. So smiling is going to get you through faster because the sentiment analysis is this person is in a good mood. Everything's fine. They're not showing any signs. And don't they think that the bad guys will figure this shit out? I think they just did because I said it on air. Yeah.

But it's just, you know, it's like it is a. It is a way to influence. And these are just different examples. And I'm sure your audience will go, yeah, man, this happened to me or this happened to me. Or, you know, I said this. And just try it because you're going to see that it actually occurs. They, and there's plenty of data on this. When you go into a store, like a big box store, Walmart or something like that,

when you're going down the lanes, if you're following your phone, your phone is going to to pop up with stuff in that area that you're in. Oh, I see. Okay? Yeah. And because it's, you can't protect your privacy anymore. You can't protect your data. You can't protect what you're purchasing is. You just can't. Everything is known about you and the, in the big industries, the big corporate industries, they're gathering all that data to try to continue to influence you. Well, the government does the same thing. And the government is involved in this now. and the government has been involved in this for a long time. So we're in one of these places where when we talk about these ideas that we present in these books,

I mean, you know, it's basically to educate people to start thinking about, okay, how do you live in this environment? Right. Because we, it's kind of like, you know, I learned a long time ago, be for it, whatever it is. Well, you better start, you know, you don't have to accept it or you, or you, you, you, you, have to live the way you want to live, and I want people to do that, but you're going to have to be in it, we're going to be in an environment here where the world of artificial intelligence, I mean, machine learning has been around for a long time. Right.

Now it's this idea of artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence is another component of this stuff, and it is, it's mind-blowing. You know, it's crazy I was overseas in London, and I went in this little convenience store in the airport. You didn't have to pull out your idea or anything. you just go in, pick up the items, and walk out, it scans your information, everything. Everything you picked up, credit card, and everything. You don't have to go through a register.

Right in your pocket. It's amazing the things that are going on. And if people don't, these books are not political. They're doctrine. Right. It's doctrine and technique, and people can apply it how they wish. But at least they're not blind to actual, like, we talk about statecraft.

We talk about sharp power, hard power, soft power. Talk about the levers of power, you know, the dime framework, you know, things that I just say. that 90% of your audience goes, what is that? But the fact that you don't know that just makes you a victim to all those things I just said.

So we have to bring this knowledge that people who, I mean, General Flynn, more than 30 years, you know, the highest levels of intelligence. Myself, I worked the ground game with psychological operations face-to-face. That was my game. So together, we put together a pretty good product. You know, him from the 30,000 foot view

and me from the eye-to-eye-level view, you're not going to find anything like this anywhere else that really peels back that curtain and says, hey, this is where the strings are. Right. Right. And what do you guys think about this upcoming election with Kamala and Trump? I personally, I am very fascinated at what the Democrat convention that's coming up here next week will actually, what the outcome will be. I'm not convinced that she's going to be the anointed one yet. Yeah.

You know, not yet. It will go to, which I've been saying about the algorithm, how, how. how media can make a nobody into somebody, because she was the most unpopular candidate they had. If she wins that election, just goes to show you, and it backs up everything you gentlemen has brought us today, how powerful the media is, how powerful AI.

So assume we're going to have the election. Because I can see a scenario where there's not an election. Wow. But assume we have an election, and she's the candidate for the Democrat ticket versus Trump on the Republican ticket. I mean, you know, if you just look at just human indicators, right, just looking at the differences of what you see when they interact with people, it's a no-brainer. And you kind of go, there's no way that, you know, that this person, you know, the type of person she is, the type of audiences that she's has, that she's able to gain, which is not much.

They're going to make it sound like she's got tens of thousands of people showing up, you know. the very first one was a concert, you know, and everyone was a concert, you know, so, come on. Working in everything. Right. Right. So, you know. Oh, so ashamed of my people. Just those, just those, yeah, just those visible things, you know.

But so we, we can be, people can be convinced, especially, you know, if they've already been gun working on the, on the children, which they've been working on, I mean, the over-sexualization of children is just one part of all this. but also the manipulation of what children and young adults begin to believe, and then you get into that 18 to 20 or 18 to 30-year-old, 18-to-35-year-old category. And you look at that and you kind of go, wow, man, you know, this stuff resonates with these people.

And most of them, you know, I love the man on the street interviews where somebody shows a picture of like George Washington and a picture of Joe Biden. And they go, you know, pick the, you know, who's, you know, do you know which one is Joe Biden? And like some of them go, this guy, George Washington, right? I mean, it's like you, I mean, because, you know, there's a lack of education, you know, and that and also like, and also just a laziness and a complacency because people just don't give a shit.

Right. But, you know, I like to, if I could sprinkle fairy dust and say, let's have, let's do this one time. Let's have a fair election, you know, ID cards, paper ballots, one day. day, you know, make it a holiday if you have to. One day, let's just see what a fair election outcome would be, and let's do it like that. But I don't believe we have that system, and I don't believe we have that system in place. So no matter what happens, you know, whoever wins, either side, because we're so divided right now, is going to say that it was, you know, they ripped us off or they did something.

We're just there. We're at that point now. the American people have lost trust and confidence in government. I mean, my concern is the loss of trust in our military. And I believe that the trust still exists in the rank and file, you know, in the sergeants and the first sergeants and the young officers, that's where I believe the American people still trust. But they don't trust the leadership anymore.

Right. They don't. They don't. That's factual now. I mean, you know, looking at surveys and stuff like that. So, I mean, I don't know, you know, your thoughts on the election. Well, the same thing, you know, will we even have one? You know, will we have one?

Will Kamala actually be the anointed one? Is Trump going to do this from jail? Right. You know, these are all factors. And with the sentencing coming up, you know, if I'm Red Team in this thing and I'm on the other side, would I let the guy not go to jail? No, I'd make sure he went to jail. Right.

You know, it's going to be disruption, disruption, disruption, disruption. So either to or fro, we're going to see disruption. And the reason we wrote this one, you know, the role of the church wasn't because we're trying to, you know, we're trying to preach. It has nothing to do with that. It's about organizing and mobilizing 2.6 billion Christians around the world, specifically because of this campaign that has to do with Christian nationalists and how that is demonized. Right, right. And Christians need to know how to navigate that. Because if you do the wrong thing and create some optics that launched some sort of sci act,

well, then the entire campaign gets focused on that group and tears things down. So we've been seeing this Christian nationalist demonization campaign, and so we decide, hey, and this is going to spin up. It's going to go further and further and further. I think the election is going to have something to do with it, especially if they go, those people are the ones that really cheated, those Christian nationalist, that mega group. They may even start coming after people.

They may actually do that. I mean, so, you know, seriously. So the worst thing we can do is make it worse because we are provoked in such a way that we make it worse. There's a smart way to handle those situations, a very, very smart way. And it's done by doctrine. So this teaches the doctrine for that community so they can navigate it so we actually don't make the situation worse. We can make it better with the numbers and with just a little bit of training. Like January 6th that made things worse.

The January 6th made things tremendously worse. And now what? People are afraid to assemble if they're conservative. Afraid to assemble, I see it all the time. You see people saying, well, how can this happen? Well, now that does happen. But where you do see the impact indicators, General Flynn and I traveled this country twice together

during his movie tour. We stopped every 200 miles to talk to people because we had to get gas, and they would come through us, they would talk. It is amazing, and this is the good thing that I can report to you. How many people across America didn't matter what state are on the same sheet of music? They're talking about the same thing.

things we're talking about right now. But they don't know that their neighbors are talking about the same thing because they're siloed in these filter bubbles, these echo chambers. We've got to start talking to each other. I recommend everybody, remember potlucks? When was the last time you saw a potluck? Don't do it anymore. Have a potluck with all your neighbors, except one caveat.

Tell everybody to leave their phone in the car. So we have to talk to each other again, reestablishing human contact. What I can tell you from that tour is, every 200 miles, for 15,000 miles, we talk to people. they're all in the same sheet of music, that's good. That's an impact indicator if I'm collecting atmospherics. The other thing I know is, look how, yes, people may not assemble, but look what the people did, the bud light.

Look what the people did to target. That's a massive impact indicator that this is the majority audience. We're the big dog on the porch, but we don't know we're the big dog on the porch. We are the big dog. Start acting like it. Take charge.

Make sure that you understand who the people are in your neighborhood, work with them, start building your reliability networks, your sustainability platforms, all the things we need to do to remove those susceptibilities that the government would use to come down on us if we do push back. It's about strength. It's not about guns. It's not about screaming wolverines and shooting and everything else.

That's not what it's about because the real work is done in the political sphere. Right. The real work. And that's a harder work, actually. It's very much harder. You have to learn it, and this is how you learn it. On that note, how can everybody find y'all? they can go to the books or the film they can go to flinmovie.com

flinmovie.com is the way to is probably the best website to go to is generalflin.com but flinmovie.com and uh and you know all the and we have actually you know from a from a really good deal perspective you know depending on you know if you if you just all you got to do is look down at flinmovey.com and you'll see the either ways to get the film and I recommend the cheapest way to get it is to stream it, you know, and that's, I think it's like four bucks. And then we have really good deals on the books. You know, if you bundle them, I mean, it's just unbelievable deals to get all three or to get one. You know, of course, if you buy all three, you get them much cheaper.

And, you know, it's, it's a necessary thing for us to do to get the word out. And frankly, these are all self-published, you know. And there's like, you're not going to get publishing companies to publish these. Right. Right. Right. Just because they're part of the system. Well, because part, yeah, they're part of it. They're part of that corporate level system that we're actually that we're calling out in these books. So they're self-published. You know, we hustle. And they're really well done. And Boone has really, you know, his role in these, really, because I remember the day we. We were going through an office area. I was in an office area where we worked in Florida together, and he was sitting there.

We started to talk about this, you know. And he's got a piece of some of the stuff that he was writing, you know, kind of a manuscript and maybe an outline. And we started to talk about this. Yeah, we started to really talk about our backgrounds again and about what was happening in the country. And we go, you know, let's do this. Let's put this together.

And then the first one, introduction. of 5GW became a bestseller self-published and hustling it and because people read it and a lot of churches started to take it and then train in their churches which we loved you know yeah yeah homeschoolers too and a lot of homeschoolers too a lot of homeschoolers that use the books and then once once we saw that happening in this need and you know and getting around and talking to people then it was like okay, this idea of artificial intelligence, and it's not just what is AI, and it's some technical thing, and people like, you know, kind of, it's not, you know, but it's how to fight artificial intelligence. It's how do you operate in this world of AI? And that, that actually,

the funny thing is, the pastor's conference that we did last week, that, more than the role of the church, because I think maybe they figured, well, I already know the Bible, and so they they didn't really know what's in the role of the church, but once they read that book, they were buying up the how to fight AI because of what's happening. in the church. Right. And then, because the most recent one that just came out in May, I think, is the role of the church. And it's really not about, you know, the church. It's about, it's about the role of, of where is the strength of community? Where does community occur? Where, and that's why during COVID, one of the first things that the government was a shut church's down. Shut them down.

Because, you know, churches are places where, you know, frankly, where the revolution was strengthened. Because when people got together, they get together where in a church with a pastor and they could talk about what's going on in a small group way. Right. And that's why what the government didn't want to have happen. They didn't want people to go, this is not right. This is not right. So the idea of the role of the churches is the strengthening of community and the large, in this country, and I've said this, and I'll say it here, that you can't be the President of

the United States without winning the Christian vote, frankly, without winning the Catholic vote because of the percentages and the demographics and what we have in this country. You just can't. So it's the idea of, you know, whoever you decide that you want, but you've got to think about where you fit into that, how you fit into that as a member of a community. And what we're trying to do, I think, with these, I think the big picture from my perspective, is really to bring people together and to figure out, use these to bring things, to bring yourselves and your communities together. And what I loved was the fact that when we first started seeing the introduction of 5GW and people

were actually using it as a training tool, citizens, right, didn't have any military experience. They're using it as a training tool to bring other people together and teaching. And that's the beauty of why those exams at the end of every chapter, one of the pieces of feedback is we've already got the tests you guys have already made it for us. So it makes it easier to sit there and teach somebody about these issues that we're talking about. And then you have an exam. I mean, we've had, you know, you've actually done some of the training. Yeah, I've been asked to come out and go to different places and people want to go.

They want to go sight and verse and understand, you know, what they can do and get a little bit deeper. Because obviously, session one is the introduction. and then as it goes further and the session three, you know, how, you know, is how to organize, how to mobilize,

that came out of all the feedback when people were saying, what's next? How do I make the local action to have national impact? How do I make that happen? And that shows you how to make that happen. And,

you know, as far as how to find me, you find me anywhere. I mean, I'm on social media like everybody else, but I want everybody to go to general, to Flynnmovie.com

slash hodge twins to get these books. Right, right. Yeah. Absolutely. Right. And I, you know, I mean, this was great coming out to the West Coast and you guys reaching out and allowing us to come on here with your audience.

And this is awesome. I mean, you guys are awesome. And I was kidding with you. And I wasn't kidding. You know, before we came on about in the four or five events we just did, you know, when I said, oh, yeah, we're going to finish up by going to see the Hodge twins up in Vegas. I mean, you guys have more, probably a larger audience than you actually know. Right. And you're, you know, you're just, what the American people are hungry for is authenticity.

Yeah, right. It's just people being authentic and themselves, not fake, not bony, honest, you know, and authentic. And I think, you know, we could say hungry for leadership and all that. And I think that that's true too. But I think people are just, you know, authentic leaders. I mean, the best people that I ever worked around, you know, in the military or what I saw as a kid with coaches and playing sports and stuff was those coaches that they were hard but they were fair and they meant what they said and you know and they were and they also demonstrated by

example they were right there with you doing stuff you know so right i i think that that's what american does need right now and uh and and and your voices are they matter so much and so i just you know we're we're thankful to be able to get up here and spend some time of you and appreciate what you guys are doing. Oh, thank you. Thank you for coming. Thank you, brother. Very good.

I'm having y'all on. My pleasure. Awesome. All the way. Thank you. Oh, yeah, let me give you a salute. Yeah. I love it.

Thank you, guys. Thank you. All right.