Hodgetwins Podcast - He Is The MOST BANNED MAN In The WORLD! | Twins Pod - Episode 62 - Top Secret Guest...

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:17 Got Nip four hairs back in the house. Yeah. What's up, brother? How you doing? Good. How are you guys doing? You still in Chicago? I'm still in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Hey, get the hell out of there. You got crazy women knocking on your door? Yeah, then somebody showed up in my house with a gun. Thank God you're okay. Yeah, thank you. God is looking out for you and Trump. Yes, yeah, seems so. You was with Kanye.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Y'all still pretty close? Yeah, yeah, we still talk. Yo, you know, I'm here with my wife's in front. I'm back. plane. I'm thinking of myself, am I going to be in a swastika t-shirt and a clan robe? I'm like, what's that going to do for my image? He could get away with it. He's black. If I'm in a swastika shirt, I'm never going to live that down. I don't want to live around black people. I just don't. They make me nervous. I got money now, right? So I want to live with white people.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Guess I'm safe. The problem is not black people's blackness. You know, If you guys move next door, it wouldn't be a problem. Hey, let me push back on it. If I was you, I wouldn't trust me. Yeah. Good times, create weak men. Weak men, create bad times. Sort of like good crime laws.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Cray, good times. Good times make people think the crime laws are racist. And then, you know, the cycle repeats. Here's the problem as a white person. You can either be Daniel Penny or Austin Metcalf. What's next? A white woman's going to touch a black woman's hair and she's going to get stabbed in the face. Don't touch my hair.
Starting point is 00:01:46 You can't touch my hair. Your black voice is better than my black voice. Everything you're saying, they're already thinking it. You've just got the balls to say it. I mean, the women's a huge part of it because, like you said, they think differently. They're way more empathetic. They're kind of just like suckers. You know?
Starting point is 00:02:04 That one looks perfect. Suckers. If only men voted, every state goes red. If only women voted, every state goes blue. All you need to know. When shit hits the fan? What do all women do? They're screaming.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Yeah, yeah, right. They're like an alarm, you know? That's like to get a male to pay attention. Wow, man, you call women's suckers. And you called them a long time. Trump is a Zionist. He got money from the Israel lobby to become president. They set it up where now they're going to restart the war in Gaza.
Starting point is 00:02:41 That's the on-ramp to get the United States to bomb Iran. Senegal. Who's the thing they think they was referring to? It's pretty obvious. Got a new show for y'all. Got a damn good show. Got Nick Folls, back in the house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:03 What's up, brother? How you doing? How you guys doing? How you guys doing? Good. Nice to see you again, man. Yeah, likewise. Good to see you.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Yeah, yeah. You still in Chicago? I'm still in Chicago, yeah. Get the hell out of there. You got crazy women knocking on your door? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Killers, yeah. Well, it's ironic, the demographic, you know, in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Oh, I'm getting crazy and Jewish woman, some young white guy. Oh, she was Jewish? Yeah, turned out to be Jewish after the fact, which is surprising. How did they? I won't go down. Well, you know, on the night of the election, I put out a tweet. I said, your body, my choice, which is just flipping around the, you know, my body, my choice. I put that out there. And the irony is I didn't even vote for Trump.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Yeah. I was telling people, no. I was telling people not to vote. But on the night of the election, we all having fun. It was just good to see Trump win and Kamala Looz. So I just put that out there to be funny. And it blew up. It got like 100 million views on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:04:01 People were talking about it on the news. And then... All because of that quote? Yeah, just for the tweet. It was... What's that quote again? Your body, my choice. You see how they'll get triggered a woman, right?
Starting point is 00:04:13 Yeah, I could see. Well, and the best part is I said... Oh, here we got. bodies. Guess what? Guys win again. Okay. Men win again. And yes, we control your bodies.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Hi, I'm your Republican congressman. Hi, I'm your Republican congressman. It's your body, my choice. And men, women again, men win again. There will never, ever be a female president. Never. You will never be a female president ever. Glass ceiling.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Dude, it's the ceiling made of fucking bricks. You will never break it. This stupid face keeps hitting the brick ceiling. We will keep you down forever. You will never control your own bodies. Yeah, so they, I mean,
Starting point is 00:05:10 they turn that into a sound on TikTok. Women put that on TikTok and they were crying while that was playing. That was the audio. So, you know, this thing blows up and it turns into an international incident practically. And so then at the same time, that's going viral. People started posting my address. And then my address went viral.
Starting point is 00:05:29 That's crazy. And so I had like probably the weekend after the election maybe 50 or 100 people show up at my house. People throwing eggs in my front door, taking pictures, walking through my backyard. Yeah, it was like, you know, it was unbelievable. never saw anything like that. And then, you know, I don't want to talk too specifically about it because I got charged for battery in connection to this, which is ongoing. But yeah, but this woman comes in my house looking for trouble. And I'm not going to say anything else about that. Let's just say, you know, maybe she found the trouble she was looking for. Found some good trouble, right?
Starting point is 00:06:08 But, yeah, and then it kept going. Then somebody showed up in my house a month later with a gun. Some kid. Yeah, yeah. Some kids showed up. And I was doing my show. I was in the middle of my live stream. I heard somebody screaming outside, which had happened already. So I thought, oh, it's some nut job.
Starting point is 00:06:28 So I said, I'll finish my show quickly. I'll see what's going on. I'll take care of it. Well, I finished my show. My producer had called the cops. And he shows me the security footage. The guy had a gun. He had a gun and a crossbow.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I said, oh, my gosh, you know, what's going on? Is he still there? Did they arrest him? He goes, oh, he ran away. I said, okay. So I go upstairs to get dressed, get changed, whatever. I hear gunshots outside. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:55 So he had showed up with the gun. There he is. He showed up, that's a crossbow. It's like an automatic crossbow with a magazine that he put on that sidewall. That's a 22 pistol he has in his hand. And so it had turned out. He showed up with a gun. He had committed triple homicide earlier in the day.
Starting point is 00:07:13 He killed three people in sub-examination. Illinois, drove two hours up to my front door with the gun, with the crossbow, apparently to try to assassinate me. Cops showed up. They chased him through the yard. He went into a neighbor's house, broke in, killed their dogs, came back outside, shot at the cops, cop shot him in the head, and killed him. Well, you don't have to worry about him anymore. How did I not hear about that? I know. That's crazy, right? They covered it up. You know, and I tweeted about it the next day. I said, someone tried to kill me in my house last night.
Starting point is 00:07:46 And the media said it was an alleged assassination attempt. That's the one I saw. I'm like alleged. He had a gun. I actually saw a post and they said this was all staged. Right. Hit you with your case. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And that's all I saw. Yeah. I didn't hear anything about this. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. That's the only one I saw. That is crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Yeah. It's nuts. Even, you know, this happened in my neighborhood, happened in Chicago. And I know people that were home. for Christmas break, that was a week before Christmas. They saw the story about the triple homicide that the kid had committed. None of them had heard anything about me, any connection to me. And it's not like it's about me necessarily, but it was like a major point is there was a huge story in my city. People heard about it. But no one in the media said that he came and tried
Starting point is 00:08:34 to assassinate me as a political person. They just buried that part. That's crazy. Right. Yeah. If he was like, if you were black and the people he killed were blacked, it would be everywhere. Yes, right, right. Yeah. Wow, man. Thank God, you're okay. Yeah, thank you. God is looking out for you and Trump. Yes, yeah, seems so. A little too close for comfort there, but they're looking out for me. Yeah, that's crazy. I don't know what the hell you're still doing in Chicago. I know, yeah. I'm trying to get out of there. You grew up there, right? I did. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I grew up in the suburbs, but it's all downhill, especially lately, you know.
Starting point is 00:09:08 these teen takeovers. It's like these. But, you know, unfortunately, it's happened all over the United States for some reason. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I think it's this crime wave ever since George Floyd.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I think they change rules of engagement with the cops, emboldened all the criminals. And so, you know, in L.A., it's property crime. L.A., San Francisco, it's a lot of, you know, they break into your car. You just can't leave any of your belongings in a parked car. They got Keith. They stole stuff out of him. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:09:38 I got money now, right? So I want to live with white people. So we move in this white neighborhood. Right? I'm like, yes, I'm safe. Right. And then somebody breaks my car. My wife has a bad habit of not locking the door because of where we live.
Starting point is 00:09:57 So there were a bunch of black kids door checking. And they opened our car. I had my checkbook. And I was dumb on my part, but got all my personal information or whatever. And we knew they were black because the ring cameras in the neighborhood. And everybody said, yes, a bunch of black nasses just running around. That's what they said.
Starting point is 00:10:16 And then Kevin said, hey, man, our business bank account was in the car, right? Because I just wrote a check for something, I forget. And he's like, you need to report it and order new checks. I said, I get around to it. About a week go by.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I totally forget about it. And somebody wrote a check for, how much was it? Five grand. Was it 10 grand? I think it's five grand. It was five grand. Yeah. And the name on the check was John Smith.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Nice gone. How does this go through? Yeah. It went through? Yeah. Wow. It came out of my account, so I had to file a claim or whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:51 And it was a nightmare following the claim because the chick was black and she was horrible. She had this horrible attitude. She's getting it from both ends. I'm like, man, this is, this guy Adams is right. And I'm not even lied about that. I had a horrible attitude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I actually called back the next. day and just make sure she did everything and there was no notes in there. So I think she knew who I was. That's happened before. They knew why I was. Oh, this is Keith Hodge. He hates black people. He hates himself.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Somebody stole your checkbook. Right. So I think that's what it was about. But I called back and they took care of it. Hey, I was going to ask, I came across a video you with Kanye. Y'all still pretty close? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We still talk pretty sporadically. Yeah. So I've known it for a few years now.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Who starts the conversation? This guy just call you up through a fucking one. Hey, what are you doing? Literally. Yeah. Yeah. We back. Yo, you know I'm here with my white supremacist's home white.
Starting point is 00:11:53 So he actually wears that. Oh, yeah. He's very proud of it. He loves it. Well, and I was over there and, you know, he's got the KKK robe also. Is it the black one? He's got three. He's got a black one, a white one, and a red one.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Really? Mm-hmm. And he's proud of them. They're leather. They're very nice. They're very like, yeah, because, you know, you'd think a lot of these, I think they're better than the actual KKK uniform. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:12:25 The actual KKK uniform looks like a sheet. Yeah, these are like leather. These are, that's like a custom job. It's like the executioner. So he went out and get a custom swanquin of his nickname. Oh, it's like the Louisville. baton of clansmen robes and the bejeweled custom swath. He was telling me, he said, he's doing a project with the clan robes. He said, you know, I was going to have him wear
Starting point is 00:12:49 the swastika. He goes, but man, I paid a lot of money for this. He's like, I want to wear it. I'm like, yeah, I can see why. It's a statement piece. But he's about it. He's more hardcore than me. You know, I was going to go out there to L.A. and I'm on the plane. I'm thinking of myself, am I going to be in a swastika t-shirt and a clan robe? I'm like, what's that going to do for my image? He could get away with it. He's black. If I'm in a swastika shirt, I'm never going to live that down.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Yeah, I got some images, some video of him walking around with a white t-shirt with a black swastika. He's looking right at the paparazzi. He's like standing out like this. Like he's super bad. Peacocking, yeah, with the swastika shirt. Yeah. He's funny, but... How is he?
Starting point is 00:13:35 How is he? People try to say he's great. crazy and he's not all there and he's having an episode or something. Look, that's the video right there. Yeah. He's good, you know. I saw him last year and he wasn't looking so good. I think he was having some health issues, but I saw him a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:13:53 He looked great, looked skinny. And they're always making stuff up about him. They say he's crazy, he's not stable. Every time I've met him, he's on the ball. He's lucid, extremely high energy. This guy works. And I, you know, I say this. And my followers who may be more racist than me, they give me shit.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Because I go on my show and I'm like, I really do. And I'm not just saying this. I really do deeply admire him. He's got this work ethic that's unbelievable, wakes up at the crack at dawn and works from 4 a.m. until midnight. Wow. Never seen anything like it. And he's doing music.
Starting point is 00:14:32 You know, he'll literally be chopping, beats himself. He's got a, you know, record. Box of Records, Producers, then I'll go and do the music video. Then he'll go and take a look at the shirts, sweatshirts, the fashion stuff. Then he'll go and do the political thing. And it's all day. It's all in the same room. And he's just like a conductor, you know, like of a symphony.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Do one thing. Then the next, then the next. Traveling throughout the city, it's unbelievable. So, I mean, he's really amazing. That was in the studio where y'all was at? Yes. Some people, I think I've seen a video of it. It's like huge.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's like breathtaking. Yeah, it's this huge warehouse. He's got these big LED video walls. And that in itself, if you know anything about the production, it's super high-end stuff. He's got the Matrix playing on one screen,
Starting point is 00:15:20 Star Wars on the other. And then he's playing Last of Us in the middle. Really? Yes. Wow. Yeah. He's a gamer. Oh, he's a huge gamer.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Huge gamer, loves movies. That's his thing. I like to meet Kanye. Yeah, I would too. Yeah. Yeah. He's a pretty incredible guy at the next KKK rally, the cross burning. I'll invite you guys.
Starting point is 00:15:45 This is in his studio? Yeah. Wow, so what does he keep the clan outfits? That's the only thing he takes with him, you know? He travels like, traveled around like a duffel bag full of clan robes and swastikas. Wow. He's got to have, I know he's got to have security. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like he's like the president when he moves. It's nuts. He didn't used to. You know, years ago when I was with him for the presidential campaign, he was going around.
Starting point is 00:16:35 He'd say, God's my security. You know, I don't need security. But now he's, he's got a pretty secure. No, you need security. Yeah, yes, exactly. You know, I mean, that's nice. Jesus. Yeah, right. Right. So lately you've been going back and forth with, damn, I'm having a bad moment. Jason Whitlock. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:59 How did that all start on Twitter, right? Yeah, well, it happened over this kid who was killed in Texas, this Austin Metcalf, who got stabbed in the chest. Oh, okay. And, you know, I went on my show. Here's the thing. When something like that happens, he's like interracial killings, the only thing you're allowed to say is wiping. person is, well, if the shoe were on the other foot, there would be outrage. You know, that's the only thing you're allowed to say. They say, if it was George Floyd, people would be marching, riding.
Starting point is 00:17:29 When a white kid is killed, no one does anything. And I said, you know, but that's really not saying anything. You know, that's a sentiment which it really just says, well, the left is hypocritical. There's a double standard on race. But it doesn't really express, in my opinion, what white people are feeling. White people are feeling is, why are we putting up with this stuff? And it's like you said, you move to a white neighborhood, you make money. We live in America. It's 21st century. We don't want to deal with these problems. And it just so happens that it is these young black adolescents that's doing it in Chicago and wherever. And so I went on my show after that killing and said, you know, like we're just kind of done with that. We don't want to live near this. Because here's the problem
Starting point is 00:18:11 is a white person, you can either be Daniel Penny or Austin Metcalf. You can either be someone that takes a stand and defends yourself, or you make a rash judgment, and you're either in jail or you're a racist. If you defend yourself, you get charged with murder by a liberal DA, or if you're wrong, then you're a white supremacist, racist, you're super judgmental, you're canceled. You can't just be a white guy who made a mistake. Exactly. Exactly. And then on the other side, if you're not racist enough or not careful enough. If you're Austin Metcalf, you make the mistake of confronting the wrong black adolescent, you're dead. You forfeit your life. And if that's how it's going to be, who wants to live in that neighborhood where you're walking down the street at night and you look
Starting point is 00:18:57 over your shoulder if you cross the street and it's a good black person, you're a racist. If you don't cross the street and they're a predator, you're dead. It's no win situation, right? So a predator. A predator. Well, you know, a predator opportunist. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's perfect adjective predator. You know, because obviously not every black person's a predator. Right, right. But there are these opportunists that are, they're crawling the streets at night,
Starting point is 00:19:29 looking for people not paying attention, young girls, young men. And so I said on my show, I said, white people, don't want to live near black people, if that's what it's, yeah. Oh, okay. I don't want to live around black people. black people. I just don't. It would be irresponsible if I had a wife and kids to live near black people. It just would be. And that's not to say that every black person is violent. It's not to say that every black person is the same way. But we watch the news. We read the papers. When you drive downtown
Starting point is 00:20:04 in Chicago, you know who you got to look out for and worry about when you're thinking about whether you're going to get car jacked, when you're worried about catching a stray bullet, when you're worried about who's going to pull up on the side of the road and literally shove a rifle in your face and steal your iPhone or shoot you point blank execution style in Lincoln Park. We know who's doing it. I don't want to live near them. I don't want to be near them. They make me nervous.
Starting point is 00:20:35 That's a survival instinct. And the way this story unfolded, it's sort of interesting. apparently this white student this Austin Metcalf confronted a friend of the killer presumably black also and said something like hey you're sitting in the wrong spot you're in my spot something like this and that's when the black guy jumped in and stabbed him to death unfortunately we just don't know when you're on the subway when you're driving in your car when you're in the city streets you don't know whether the black person in proximity to you is one of the good ones or one of the ones who is going to summon an unbelievable, I mean literally for people like us, an unthinkable
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Starting point is 00:22:48 Yeah. Because when I, what you was pretty much rolling, I mean, trying to explain to everybody, you're talking about urban black neighborhoods. I don't want to live in an urban black neighborhood. Right. I don't want to. Black people that become rich and famous, they don't want to live there neither. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:03 But it's a problem when you say it. Yes. Right. Exactly. Nobody wants to live in the hood. Nobody. And those things happen in the hood. To black people all the time.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Poor people who live in the hood. They don't want to live there, but they have no options. They don't have no means to get out. So they stuck. I don't know. I remember I was in the Marine Corps. I lived in San Diego. I was think I was like 1920, and I lived in a black neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I came out because I would leave to go to work at like four in the morning. There's a bullet hole in the side of my geo metro. Yeah. Had a lime green geometro. That's how I learned how to drop a stick. Yeah. And had a bullet hole inside of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:42 I get in the car, I turn around, I go up to the stop sign, which is maybe about 100 feet away so I can get on the freeway. There's a prostitute right there. And she looked at me like this, and then she said, I was like, she must have just got done sucking somebody off. And I lived in black neighborhoods. And I was like, when I was growing up, I said, man, when I get the money, I'm going to live in the white neighborhoods.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Yeah, that's the thing. Black people don't want to live in black neighborhoods. But it's the only part of when white people. say it, though. Right. Well, and here's what I always say. The problem is not black people's blackness, which is the issue.
Starting point is 00:24:21 You know, if you guys move next door, it wouldn't be a problem. Because I know you guys are going to be gang-banging or whatever. Hey, let me push back on it. I wouldn't, if I was you, I wouldn't trust me. Some things you just can't deny. I mean, we don't get that gene.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Well, I just saw you. I'm not honest. I wouldn't trust that. Yeah. But the problem is that, unfortunately, a stereotype, which is based in reality, is that when you live in a black neighborhood, you're going to get this set of problems. You're going to get violence. You're going to get mayhem, chaos. And it's not even just that. It's just rudeness, people being inconsiderate. And if people associate with black people with being friendly, being kind, being peaceful, no one would have an issue. People say, oh, great, black people moving in the neighborhood. This is awesome. Probably about he's going to go up. You know? That's not what's going to
Starting point is 00:25:11 happen. No. That's the issue. And so, you know, I said that. And Jason Whitlock, you know, he's super Christian, as am I. And he said, well, you know, this is an attempt to incite racial hatred between white and black people to divide up the races with this, you know, with this incendiary rhetoric. And I said, look, here's the problem. You can reconcile white and black people with Christianity. In my opinion, that happens second. What has to happen first is law and order. Unfortunately, you have this cycle in America where you have very good laws, safety, you know, you have police or active enforcing the law. And then you get the activists that come in and say, oh, there's too many black people in Jews, too much police brutality.
Starting point is 00:26:04 So people say, all right, you know, we're going to ease up. We're going to mass incarceration is a problem. Police brutality is a problem. We're going to let him go. Then the violence gets out of control. Then you get, you know, the crack epidemic. Then you get, you know, the 80s, 90s. People go, it's out of control.
Starting point is 00:26:18 We need the crime bill. We need the cops back on the street. We need stopping frisk. So then it's good for, you know, 20 more years. Some people say, police are racist. We got to get rid of the cops. I think that was a good lot of the pass. It is.
Starting point is 00:26:29 It is. 100%. Yeah. Yeah. And, but this is the cycle. It's like this amnesia where it's that, it's that classic meme. You know, good times create weak men. Weak men, create bad times.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Sort of like good, good. crime laws create good times, good times make people think the crime laws are racist. And then, you know, the cycle repeats. So, you know, so what I'm saying is enforce the laws. And by the way, the biggest beneficiary would be the black people themselves. It's like you said, who's hurt by this? Occasionally, occasionally it's white people. But the vast majority of people that are killed are black people.
Starting point is 00:27:06 The people that live in poverty are the black people. It's those neighborhoods that can't have a Walmart. because of all the shoplifting. So you enforce the laws. Unfortunately, there's going to be disproportionate, you know, representation. There's going to be more blacks in jail. But you got to arrest every lawbreaker. And then once you get the worst of the worst off the streets,
Starting point is 00:27:26 the worst predators, opportunists, then you can reconcile the people of Christianity. But, you know, if you want to evangelize to these people in Chicago, I mean, be my guest. But I don't think you're going to get through. When you see these videos, unfortunately, a lot of them are just lost. Yeah. And, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I mean, they made a whole show around that. First 48? That's a documentary of the cultural black folks. Have you seen this? No. You haven't seen the first 48? No. Oh, that show made me race.
Starting point is 00:27:54 It's like the first 48 hours. They just track the point where somebody's killed and the first 48 hours of the investigation. Primarily, you see black people killing black people. Kentucky. But there are some white people. Yeah, like one out of every 100. Yeah, but it's predominant. family just oh I mean of course killing each other of the most trivial things it's just it's shocking
Starting point is 00:28:18 yeah the reason why black people have uh have something against her message that you showed it's because they don't believe that black people are dangerous more than white people they actually think you are being racist by making those accusations that don't exist but they're a hundred percent factually true that's why what you said does not bother me at all yeah yeah i know it's true yeah because basically talking about n-hs. I'm a black male. He has a probable and me being a black male.
Starting point is 00:28:49 We can't stay in this either. I mean, Chris Rock had a famous goat. Yeah. And it was funny as hell when he said it, but let's go to that tweet, man. You made a great point when y'all was going back before. Jason Whitlock said, every bit as godless and stupid as your
Starting point is 00:29:05 critics say, you're Ray Epps 2.0, I can't say it, point in foolish belief believers. Shut, you fucking dumb. I can see it. I can see it. I can see it.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Your every bit is godless and stupid as your critics say. Your Ray Epps 2.0 pointing foolish believers into a building that will burn them down for eternity. Many of the people captured by the wickedness of black culture can claim ignorance. You know exactly what you're doing. Demon. Say, I don't think it's ignorance for the black community. You can't teach a conscience. You can't teach that.
Starting point is 00:29:40 The enemy is paying people on social. paying people on social media to promote racial division and conflict. The aftermath of Austin Metcalfe Camillo Anthony is a sciop. I don't think that's a sci-op. No, don't fall for it, stand on the word, rebuke any so-called believer, and not pointing to Christ. Don't you think in his message in a roundabout way, he's saying black people are incapable of rational thought and white people are superior, so we're going to give them a pass.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Pretty much he's saying white people, black people are inferior to whites. with that message, because I don't think they can claim ignorance. Right. Yeah. Black people are not vegetables. They know exactly what they're doing. Yeah. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:30:19 And that's sort of the issue is, you know, you have this new breed of conservatives where they want to hide behind the cross. They're pushing like a BLM, woke. It's exactly like you're saying. They used to call it the soft bigotry of low expectations, you know, reverse racism, whatever. And now you have conservatives with the exact same mentality, which fundamentally means black Blacks have no accountability.
Starting point is 00:30:41 You know, like he said in the tweet, they can claim ignorance. What does that mean? It means they're not culpable. You know, they're not responsible. They have no agency. We can't blame them. The IQs are very low. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:52 They can't help themselves. When they rob somebody, they still call. They're wired that way. I don't know. Hey, I think your response to him, I love your response, which you said. So tired of him that black crime is caused by black cultural. For some reason, rap music doesn't make white people steal cards and shoot people. It only works on black people.
Starting point is 00:31:17 That was a great response. Thanks. Well, yeah, I mean, because you- Look at re-judge the things I'm saying. I keep saying about black people. Man, it's our culture. It's the music. It's in the moods.
Starting point is 00:31:27 But that's just an excuse. Yeah. And he's coming from this point of view that you're teaching white people to be racist. Everything you're saying, they're already thinking it. You just got the balls to say it. Right. So you're not, it's white people know. what's up.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They do. Yeah. I knew what was up when I was like 12 years old. Right. So I'm going to play with Scott. I'm not playing with fucking Tyrone over that. I mean, the first gun that was ever put on me was at 12 years old and it was a black kid and we were on the basketball team together.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Wow. Going into basketball practice. Yeah. That's crazy. I still remember that, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and it's true.
Starting point is 00:32:04 That is, that's what I intend to do with the show is, I mean, I'm expressing my opinion, but I'm also speaking for a lot of people that don't want to offend or they don't want to get canceled. And unfortunately, as far as we've come, because people have woken up a lot on a lot of different issues, people are still paralyzed out of fear of being called racist, saying the wrong thing, offending people. And the reality is that I think that race, it's one of those things you're never going to fully bridge that divide. You know, you have white people, you have black people. They're different. They identify differently.
Starting point is 00:32:37 And this idea that we're going to be so Christian, we're going to overcome that or so American, I don't think it's going to happen. And that doesn't mean we have to hate each other. I think we could live in harmony. And I think, you know, we could strive for understanding and empathy. But, you know, the idea that the only reason we're set in conflict is because of racist, dividing us or the media or the culture. It's just not true. People are tribal.
Starting point is 00:33:01 It's who we are. It's in our genetics. And nothing's going to change that. I think, I think, I think there's one. Carmelo Anthony case, it really, you know, open, it should open a lot of people's eyes, how trouble we can be. Because when Daniel Penny would happen with him on the subway with that Michael Jackson person, a lot of white people came to his aid, a lot of people came to his aid and donated money to him to help him in his defense, which I understand why. I don't think it was
Starting point is 00:33:29 a racist. I don't think then it was because they're a racist. But then you look at Carmelo Anthony, where here's a black kid who obviously did something wrong. You should They never had that knife, but you see a lot of black people defending him. Not because he was right. It's because they defend him because he's black. Yep. Almost half a million dollars. Yeah, it's up to a half a million dollars.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Yeah, but if the shoe was on the other foot, the circumstances was the same. Just the races were reversed. White people would not embrace what happened. Exactly. That's the difference I want to point out when it comes to black and white. Culturally, I mean, spiritually, I mean, you go on Facebook. TikTok is black people, black pastors defending that kids' actions. They're comparing Carmelo Anthony to Rosa Parks.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Yeah. I mean, they're not even comparing apples to oranges. They comparing apples with hairy nuts. It's like low IQ, low capacity. That's the only thing I can really call it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're trying to say self-defense. Self-defense.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Right. Like, Andy even brought up the accusation that if you tell somebody to leave, that's bullying. Right. I was like, how did you reach that point when you consider that bullying? Yeah. You have to be mentally stupid. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Well, it's like you said, it's just pure. Cald-Germelo Anthony, right? And the black reaction is what you expect. But white people, obviously not all of you. So let me just get that out the way. But a bunch of all are just a bunch of races, bigoted crisis actor. People really believe that that kid had the right to tell Carmelo. to move. This kid wasn't working security. He wasn't given no responsibility. He wasn't the seat
Starting point is 00:35:12 manager. Like, if that kid would have disminded his own business, would he or would he not still be alive? A lot of people were trying to make it a race issue and it's not, has nothing to do with that right there. This was self-defense. That's crazy. This is all over TikTok. I see a lot of post on Facebook. To myself self-defense. Yeah. From more demographic of people. Yeah, it's all black people. Did he have any injuries? Do you see his mugshot? Clean face, nothing. No scratches, no nothing.
Starting point is 00:35:42 No punches were thrown from what I heard so far. Yeah, it's something wrong with the black community. I was like, man, you can't be this dumb. Man, if that was self-defense, the murder rates would go up. You could kill somebody for anything. Yeah, right? What horrible precedent. Presidents that were set.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Okay, what? Do something I kill you. Or do something. Get out, get out. Get out. Stab me, you stag me. I don't have it in me. That's why I didn't respond. I guess that's my white side talking to me, but that's crazy, man.
Starting point is 00:36:22 It's just that whole case that's like, man, I just lose all hope. Especially when it comes to the black community because, like, why would y'all even put your brand behind defending a kid who is obviously, obviously is wrong. Yeah. Well, it's based tribalism. You know, it's like you said, they're sticking with this guy because he's black. And I think what is barely concealed is a contempt for white people, which is, you know, and it's like a racial pride thing. When they say Rosa Parks, they say, oh, the era of white people telling black people, you're in the wrong seat is over.
Starting point is 00:36:56 You know, what's next? A white woman's going to touch a black woman's hair and she's going to get stabbed in the face. Shot in the chest. Don't touch my hair. You can't talk to my hair. Your black voice is better than my black voice. So I practice him. On my mama, I feel you.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Oh, my mama. Yeah. But Jason went like, politically, I align with him a lot. So I don't know. I guess I think he's he's showing way too much empathy for the black community
Starting point is 00:37:31 because he is black. and I've been through that and I was like, you know what, I'm done with that. I'm just going to stand for what's right and what's right, that's what I'm a stand on. Yeah, yeah. And I like him. He's a good guy. He's very positive towards him.
Starting point is 00:37:47 In my, because initially I disagreed with him. I was very positive. I said, you know, I respect him a lot. He's Christian. I agree. Like you said, I agree with him so much. And then he just had this nasty, calling me a stupid demon,
Starting point is 00:37:59 saying I'm sending people to hell. So uncalled for. But that is another stereotype is this like crybaby thing that black people do. It's like ethnic narcissism. And it's like you said, it's a bit of a blind spot where, you know, a black conservative can be right on 99% of thing. But when it comes to race, they want to take their bonga home. When it comes to race, they want to be a crybaby, play the victim. And I think that's all it is a blind spot.
Starting point is 00:38:25 A lot of white people have it too. And not even to be that guy. But in fairness, there's an equal amount of people that I know. white nationalist types, very proud. They'll be the first ones to blast black people and their behaviors. You talk about some of the behaviors of lower class white people. They say, oh, you're against white people. You're against your own kind. Let's just, let's be honest, you know. Let's just be honest about who we are, who the other is. So that's what I'm about. You've got to be honest. I think of what happened with Carmelo, Anthony, I can speak from experience. Growing up as kids,
Starting point is 00:39:00 we were, we just had this natural hostility towards white people because of the past and what black people have been through. What our parents been through. And what I tell us every day. Stand up for yourself. Don't let no white people push you around. So I think what happened was he was sitting there. I'm just speculating.
Starting point is 00:39:16 And then some white kid tells him to get up and move. And it's just, that's what caused this whole issue. Overreaction. It was race. I think it was race. Yeah. If they're both black or both white, this doesn't happen. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I guarantee it. Totally. Just because he's black and we come up and we're raised with this natural hostility towards white people, that's why that happened. Yeah. That's why it happened. Yeah, I don't know why. He went to a rival school. I don't know what the area is like, but he's walking around with a knife.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I never did that when I was in school. Frisco, I think it's pretty rough. Yeah. I may be wrong on that. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think you're right. It's a pride thing, you know, because you could totally imagine how that went down.
Starting point is 00:39:57 The guy was like a white football chat. You know, handsome guy comes up and says, Hey, pal, you're in the wrong area, you know, or puts his hands on something like that. I'm sure some black kids saying, I'm not taking shit from this white guy. And, you know, I don't know that he intended to kill him necessarily.
Starting point is 00:40:16 I think you did. Why else would you stick a knife in your chest? That was nuts. Have you read the police report? Yeah, I did. They never recovered the weapon, right? I don't think so, no. Yeah, but it's this impulse thing.
Starting point is 00:40:29 That's the problem is he's, these impulsive behaviors where, you know, I'm sure in the moment, but when I say, obviously, if you stab somebody, it's a lethal weapon. You can't say I didn't know it could kill somebody, but I'm sure in the moment that split second, he did the first thing, and now his life is ruined. I mean, deservedly so, obviously, but that is the issue. And I think that is the genetic aspect that people don't talk about. I think that I don't think anybody would disagree. Black people or white people who has a greater propensity for violence. I think on a genetic basis is black people. In the same way that between Asians and white people who has a greater propensity for violence,
Starting point is 00:41:07 I think definitely white people, you know, and that's just another one of those differences. People attribute it to culture. I attribute it to genetics. It's one among others. Asians, who has to hire our cues as Asian people? Then it's like white people. Then I guess it's everybody else and then black people did last. I mean, and that's a fact, correct? Yeah. From what I've read up on it, like black people for whatever reason. And I think when you put anybody in a situation and they have a low capacity to grasp what's going on, that's who's going to commit the most murders. Regardless if they're white, whatever. I just think there's a, I don't know, I hate to say it, but there's, um, don't say it.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I know what you're going to say. Well, just what I'll say. Low IQ, you can find it in all people. Right. I just think it's more prevalent in the black community. Yeah. Yeah, I think so, too. It would explain the number of black people in prison.
Starting point is 00:42:06 And IQ scores back me up on that. It firms everything I just said. If you look at IQ scores, it predominantly takes who's going to be more successful. I don't know what's going on here. It's like, this is all over social media, especially with, like, black women. I don't get that. The first thing he'd go for is that we. Yeah, that's, that's just, that's low IQ right now.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Oh, yeah. Why would you do that, man? That's, hey, Joe, I don't want to look at this. Yeah. You make you just like that? Look at this. Joe swears up and down. I like black women at big.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Oh, man. Hey, let me ask you this. Back to, um, uh, Whitlock's point. Do you think the record labels and rap music has some part of the blame when it comes to the black community? Certainly. Certainly. I mean, it's certainly not helping. And I do think it exacerbates it because that's something my grandma used to say.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I've been in Chicago for generations. My family's been there. And, you know, my ancestors were Italian immigrants, Italian, Irish, Mexican immigrants a hundred years ago. And so my grandma grew up in the projects with many black people. And, you know, she always used to say that actually, you know, she would look across the window in her project department or whatever. And she saw a black family across the way that was more functional than her own family. She said they would hold hands to say grace before they ate. And her household was up for grabs.
Starting point is 00:43:54 She had must made her feel really bad. I'm sure, yeah. Psychologically, right? But, you know, by the same token, she encountered a lot of the same problems. you see today, a lot of the same violence. You know, she would get robbed or stuck up by black people in the city. But everybody recognizes anybody who lives with black people in the cities will tell you, there is a generational difference that the older black people, in many cases it couldn't even read.
Starting point is 00:44:23 You know, my grandma had a school. They taught cops how to shoot their guns. It was a security school. And they would license security guards, cops, do firearms training. and they would train up. Black people sometimes couldn't read. You know, they were from the Jim Crow era from the South. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:39 But she said they were very honest, very decent, very respectful, polite. So culture makes a huge difference. I don't think it's everything. It's certainly not nothing. And anyone that lived, you know, anyone that had that experience living in a city with black people through the generations, we'll tell you the exact same thing. There's certainly a generational component, but I don't think that explains all of it. Yeah. Like all my aunts and uncles and my family, there wasn't a bunch of miscreants.
Starting point is 00:45:08 It was like polite. They always wore suits. Yeah, they always went to church on Sunday. Right. I remember growing up. That's an image. That's what black people used to dress. Yeah. I mean, that was the common thing to do. Yeah. And now, you know, liberals get hold of black people and just turn into progressives. And now this is what you got. Yeah. I got a question. Do you, think if, just a hypothetical, what would solve a majority of America's problems? Say you
Starting point is 00:45:39 as president. Let's just sit them up. No. It's a setup job. I did not want to sit you up. I feel guilty. This dude is wearing a wire. What do you think would solve a majority of America's problems?
Starting point is 00:45:56 I think personally for your answer, I think we listen to women too much. Oh, yeah. I think a A big problem America has right now is we have two many women in power and look what happened when we got too many women in power. We got men in women's bathrooms and in that sports. It's just women can't even think different. It's so different than a man. That's a huge part of that. I mean, you can start with women. You can go to the media. You can go to immigration. I mean, the problem is
Starting point is 00:46:23 we can all recognize the country's been getting worse. A lot of things, there was seismic changes is 100 years ago. Technology, suffrage, you know, more people voting, more people participating. A lot of immigrants from non-white countries coming here, things are getting worse, and we're just doing the same things. It's like, you don't think maybe we put a pause on some of the things that have changed that might have led to some of these things. But, I mean, the women's a huge part of it, because, like you said, they think differently. They're way more empathetic, way more, and they're kind of just like suckers, you know? Like men. That was perfect
Starting point is 00:47:01 They're suckers Because they're not necessarily dumb Although many of them are But you know Because some of them can be very smart But they just don't have this Quality that men have Where men will say nah
Starting point is 00:47:18 That's bullshit You know you're lying Women don't have that Women will listen to any story Any sob story And go all you know Filled with empathy and emotion And when you're
Starting point is 00:47:29 you look at who they vote for. This is like a red pill for me when I was in high school. They said, how do we, I said, if you look at the election results, presidential election results, separated out by men and women. If only men voted, every state goes red. If only women voted, every state goes blue. Right. All you need to know. That's all you need to know. That's powerful. And even today, the approval ratings with Trump, men overwhelmingly positive, women overwhelmingly negative. And we know Trump is right. Right. We know the Democrats are wrong, you know, and these are like not difficult issues. Should a country have a border? Can a country run an infinite deficit? Can we have entitlements? You're paying people not to work. Like, no, we can't do any of these things. But women, they think that we can. And that's a huge source of the issue, certainly. The diversity is a big part of it. The anti-racism. And not for nothing, but those pictures you show, that was a time when the society was immensely racist. Seems like it was better for both sides actually. Right. And that's not to say important distinction. It's not to say we're,
Starting point is 00:48:35 you know, because people like to say, make America great again. What, you mean slavery and lynching and, you know, racial hatred? It's like, no, obviously, I'm not a sick person. I'm not a cruel person. I don't want to see people get murdered for their race or their ethnicity. But, you know, what did change, now that people have to walk on eggshells, now that people are afraid to enforce the laws or tell the truth, now there's. no rules. Now there's no accountability. You could say that maybe in the old days there was an excess of justice and it fell into cruelty. It fell into, you know, brutality. Now we have an excess of mercy. And you could see which one is worse. Certainly the excess of mercy and
Starting point is 00:49:18 forgiveness, you get a lawless society. And I would rather be on the other end of a brutal cop than a brutal thug. And it's sort of an interesting distinction, right? Because you hear police brutality, police brutality. Yeah, police can be brutal, certainly. I wouldn't want to be on the other end of that either. But would you rather be on the other end of the law that's brutal or these young adolescent black men that are brutal that will execute you for not even having to do with the theft? You know, I referenced a specific case. I said, who's executing people in Lincoln Park? There's a case where they mugged a guy in Lincoln Park, which is a nice white neighborhood, stole his iPhone, demanded the password. And then they shot the guy, point.
Starting point is 00:49:59 blank execution style. Now, why do you kill this guy? You got his iPhone. You got the password. You got what you're looking for. Why then do you kill this guy? Shoot him in a defenseless person. That is far worse than any brutality from the police, you know, or from the state. Yet no one wants to talk about that brutality. So that's kind of how I see it. I never understood liberals when it came to the death penalty. They don't, like, a person could do the most heinous crime imaginable. And they would give the person life. And then that person goes to prison and he ends up killing several other people. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:32 It's like why continue to protect his life when he took so many other people's lives? It should be eye for an hour. When it comes to our justice system, when it comes to murder, first degree, premeditated, you should be put to death. You know about this guy? He's in jail. I think it was in California. He killed like four people doing a robbery in a jewelry store.
Starting point is 00:50:50 So he's got life. There's a white dude, right? It's a black guy. Oh, okay. You wish. No. Wouldn't that be nice Well, a white criminal
Starting point is 00:51:06 Rob to Grosal, really? Right, and so it's a black guy And his wife is giving him conjugal visits Oh, okay Why is he even allowed to do that? But he ends up killing his wife Wow Yeah
Starting point is 00:51:22 I was like, this doesn't make any sense Yeah Why does he get conge? Why does he get sex visits? Yeah. And then she pisses them off and he kills her. Yeah. But your point about women, I think that's what's hurting our Supreme Court. Like Amy Coney Barrett, it's like she doesn't vote conservative.
Starting point is 00:51:43 She's like progressive, just like the other women. You asked a great question. Would you rather have an all-male conservative Supreme Court or all-womened conservative? Right. And men overwomen, everybody overwhelmingly, yeah, it should be all men. Well, except for the women. Yeah. It was like 50-50.
Starting point is 00:52:00 But the dude's like, yeah, I'll take that. I'll take 12 Clarence Thomas's before I take a freaking woman. You know? Right, right. It's just women. They think so different. That's why this whole transgender and bathrooms and sports, that's why it's went so far. It's not because of men.
Starting point is 00:52:15 It's because women are allowing this. Yeah. And if they can't protect themselves, why the hell should they be voting? Yeah. It's true. I mean, and that is the great lie of modern society is that women are independent. By definition, they're not independent. You know, independent means you're free from dependency.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Well, women are dependent on men for everything. Construction, police, government, military. A woman can't walk the streets at night independently. Because if any man, even a weak man, confronts her, she's toast. She's done. Who does she call the protector? Another man. If she's in a burning building, who's going to come and rescue her?
Starting point is 00:52:57 A man. You know, they're completely biologically dependent on us. Have you noticed, like, when shit hits the fan, what do all women do? They start screaming. Yeah, yeah, right. It's like every time I watch this one TikTok video, this little coyote came out, right? It was a coyote that came out of nowhere. Her little daughter was walking in, and the coyote grabs us and starts dragging it.
Starting point is 00:53:23 She's like, oh, she didn't like screaming, looking at the cataly and drag her daughter. And I was like, do something, you stupid. She just went there screaming and her husband comes out. Yeah. Chases the calorie, coyote. Yeah, and grabs the daughter. Yeah. She could very easily do that. They're like an alarm, you know, that's like to get a male to pay attention. Like a sire. Yeah. It's the world's first alarm system, you know, because that's all they could do.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Wow, you call women suckers. You call them a alarm spot. I mean, women are just so, you're just so, you call them, women are just so different than men. Well, we're the superior, we're the superior gender. And they're trying to make this claim that we're equals, we're not.
Starting point is 00:54:06 You know, every time I look at a new movie, a new show, they got some strong woman beating the shit out of the news. That would never happen. You beat up those three guys. It's not even believable anymore. Yeah, it's jumping the shark. Yeah, I was watching the show.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I can't remember this. Show's name. I want to gauge you a show, strong. Yeah. And the girl that's lesbian, she beat the hell out this big muscular guy. It's about a... The last of us. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:35 You saw that. That's made by a guy from Tel Aviv, Neil Druckman. He's from Tel Aviv. Really? Yeah. Well, that explains a lot. This white kid's kissing. It's totally hot, smoky little Mexican girl.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Yeah. Oh, she's fucking... Right? And then she beats up something to do later. I'm like, man, this is so... Yeah. Stupid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:53 It's not even real. I just want to... Have you seen that movie, Minecraft? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Did you notice anything weird about that movie? The black woman in it? Or? Well, that was weird, but not that. It's something else weird. What's that? What's the handsome guy's name?
Starting point is 00:55:09 Yeah, they had his fingernails painting and he's acting real feminine. He's got a pink jacket. He's got his hair done like he's back in the 80s. They got him playing like he's real feminine. Feminine? Yeah. I don't know. I think that was just like an 80s because you know what it is? The director is like a, a Gen Xer. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:55:29 That's like, dude, every Gen X movie, it's like a James Gunn thing. They just have this hard on for the 80s. It's like every movie is just like 80s nostalgia. You had an 80s muscle car.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Yeah. He had the jacket with the, I forget, some kind of... Yeah, the 80s were pretty gay. Man, that was like... Remember, uh, millie vanilly?
Starting point is 00:55:50 Mm-hmm. Can you pull them up? It's the couple black guys who were lip-sinking and they got caught doing it. But, uh, they were like, trans. But they wasn't
Starting point is 00:55:59 trans. How old are you? I'm 26. Man, you're young. He's a baby. We just turned 50. We're twice right. Damn. This was, these are two dudes. Wow. And they used to tease us and cause me. The black kids used to bully and said, man, he was millie vanilla vanilla.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Like that one dude's got like green eyes or something. But, uh, so they would call us that, but that's, like, the 80s were so gay. I used to love listen to their music. Yeah. Do you have that, can you put up that video where they're dancing on stage? They're dressed in white and they look like a couple fattes up there. Hey, what's wrong?
Starting point is 00:56:37 You're going to cut this shit out, right? Then, like, it's when they called them lip-syncing the record player scratched or something. They're dressed in white. Type it when Millie Vanilly got caught. You should come up. Why the hell are we talking about Millie Vanilly? No, no, he was talking about how the 80s, everything like in the 80s. He's pretty like feminine.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I'm over it, fuck it. Yeah. Well, yeah, all those video game movies, because I was thinking about this, Minecraft, Ready Player One, Tron, these are all like video game adaptations, and they all have like a subplot, which is just like 80s nostalgia.
Starting point is 00:57:17 It's these like Gen X nerds that have a hard on for like 80s video games, 80s music, and I agree it is super gay. Hey, look you back. Looking back on that movie, yeah, she was the only black person. Yeah. Well, and there's like this clip in the trailer where she's like, what the hell? It's like, bra.
Starting point is 00:57:37 She's the token black man. Minecraft. Come on. I didn't see the movie for the other time. You're making me want to see it now. My wife took me. We went over the weekend. And I don't like Jack Black.
Starting point is 00:57:53 And that dude is very little. I was like, oh, my God, these two. dudes in it and I'm support this but it was actually a very good movie it was very good and I think it's over
Starting point is 00:58:03 500 million yeah it's huge yeah well it's Minecraft you can't mess that up yeah well I guess you can if you miss that movie's very funny
Starting point is 00:58:12 really that dude Jason Memorial he had some jokes and out he will say something in Spanish but it totally meant something else
Starting point is 00:58:19 it was real funny oh it was really good actually I was I was like y'all they still suck politically, but that was a good movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Yeah, it was pretty fun. Yeah. So you checked it out? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I saw it twice. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Yeah. Yeah, you know. I'm going to watch it now. You got it. I don't know if you get it, though. I mean, you guys play Minecraft, do you gamers? No, my kids are into it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Yeah. And I watch my kids play, so I get it. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Zoomers have a deep appreciation for it, because, I mean, we grew up with that game. The game's 15 years. old. So it's like you're a Miss Pac-Man, huh? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because Miss Pac-Man was,
Starting point is 00:59:01 you're a huge fuss. I still love it. Yeah, I know. Yeah. So you're 25 now. Man, you young, dude. I'm telling you, thanks. Like, 36. No, no, 36 is like the preface. Yeah, but once you hit 36 after that, everything's like downhill. Not really. Well, kind of. Well, 40. Yeah. You're 50 you guys are? Yeah, we turned 50. Wow, you don't look 50.
Starting point is 00:59:29 We're going to be 51 this year. Yeah. Wow. You know what RFK Jr. told me? What? He said, he told me, he said, wow, you're 50? He said, in the next 25 years, if you live that long, it's going to be the worst years of your life. Nice.
Starting point is 00:59:42 So he told me, you better get your ass in the gym every day. Yeah, every day, yeah. And watch what you eat. Yeah, I believe that. I was like, gee, thanks. Yeah, people are calling me unk, so that's good to hear. Oh, yeah. They look young, yeah?
Starting point is 00:59:54 Yeah, it's like a black vernacular, I think. What's up, Unck? Yeah, I'm an old head now, an old head, aunt. Yeah, but I'm starting to notice a lot of your videos now, like on Instagram, YouTube. They're everywhere. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So has a band been lifted on having your content or talking about your content?
Starting point is 01:00:10 Yeah, it changed. It noticeably, it was like overnight. It changed. Well, when Trump got elected? Yeah, literally. Really? Yeah, and I'm not sure what exactly took place, but for years, anyone would post my show. show, they'd immediately get banned. Not only would the content get taken down, their account would
Starting point is 01:00:29 get terminated. And then we started to notice this around December of 2024, January this year. People were posting them and they were staying up and getting a really good viewership, getting really good views. And we said, something changed. We said, let's just try it. So, you know, our team made some accounts and we noticed other people were posting the clips, and they're just doing crazy views. They're just blowing up. And I think what happened is that, you When you look at the censorship regime, it's sort of crescendoed. It hit its peak in like 2021, 22. Because in 2015, no one was banned. You know, back in 2015, it was like unheard of. The first few people like Andrew Anglin, Chuck Johnson got banned on Twitter. It was unheard of, though,
Starting point is 01:01:12 that people are getting censored in the old days. Then after Trump got elected the first time, it just went into overdrive. Banwaves. The rules were changing every week, getting more broad. Then it got to the point where they said, if you disagree about Ukraine, BLM, the election, the vaccine, you're gone. It was just out of control. Trump himself got banned. And then there were like two big developments. Trump getting banned, catalyzed both of them. You had Elon acquired Twitter and made a free speech.
Starting point is 01:01:42 And then TikTok blew up. TikTok was the fastest growing platform. It was the fastest platform to get a billion active users. Totally surpassed Instagram, Facebook. not Facebook, but Instagram. And TikTok was owned by Bight Dance, which is in China. So they didn't have the same restrictions. TikTok blows up in 21, 22.
Starting point is 01:02:03 That allows the rise of Andrew Tate. Andrew Tate's the most famous guy in the world in 22, thanks basically to TikTok. And so between TikTok blowing up, Elon's acquisition of X, you basically have the two most competitive, fastest growing platforms are free speech haven. And I think then Trump's election. the second time, between that development and the election, it forced these other companies to kind of get in line. They said, if we want to compete, you know, Zuckerberg said, we have to relax the policies.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Same thing with YouTube. Same thing with Twitch. You know, Twitch let Aiden Ross back on. They're starting to relax their policies. And I think that's partially out of competitiveness with the other platforms, but also I think they're afraid of they know that when Trump gets in, there's a chance he might bring down regulatory pressure on that. because they censor conservatives.
Starting point is 01:02:54 That was a relationship in the first term. People don't know this, but Zuckerberg was tight with Trump in the first Trump administration. That's why Facebook never got regulated, because Zuckerberg will call up the White House and say, oh, we're going to work with you on censorship, we're going to work with you on this, and that gave them some lenience with the FTC, with the, what do you call it, the regulation of the, I forget the other, the FCC and one, Yeah, FTC and FCC. Both of them gave them some leniency because of that. So I don't know. I guess we'll just have to see if it sticks. So you think Zuckerberg is playing politics, whoever's in office?
Starting point is 01:03:32 100%. 100%. At least that's partially. I think part of it's competitive and the other part is they're playing politics. They don't want to get the banhammer from the government. Have you been able to monetize yourself? No. No. Do you think they ever lift that ban? Did they have on you currently? No. I'm banned on PayPal, Stripe, ban. banned from every payment processor, every bank. You know, I sell these hats. I have these America First. Hats are like Trump's hats. And we were working with like a free speech payment processor.
Starting point is 01:04:03 They're like made for canceled people like me. They were working with a free speech bank that was made for people like me. And we said, we're going to sell hats. This is who we are. This is, you know, and they knew who I was. They knew we're going to do. They said, yeah, no problem. You should be good to go. We put the hats for sale. We make like $50,000 in the first night. They hit us up the next day. They say, we're freezing all the payments. We have to review it. Week later, they come back and say, we can't do business with you. We're refunding every single transaction. That is nuts. Free speech bank, free speech processor. No luck. This is what happens. And this was recently, this was like in October. Yeah. So, yeah, no leniency with the banks. I don't know what's going on with that.
Starting point is 01:04:48 legal request do you have? None. None, because it's private. It's private sector. So everybody, you know, that was my first thought is how could this be legal? How is that even constitutional? You know, that you could be deprived of such an essential service like that. But what they do is basically Visa and MasterCard operate like a cartel. They control all the credit card processing. And for that reason, they influence the banks. So when you process a credit card, you're dealing with Visa and MasterCard, the bank and the processor. And those are three layers where they can mess with you. So in many cases, it's the processor, like a PayPal, a stripe.
Starting point is 01:05:25 The processor says you're too conservative, your band. Sometimes it's the bank that underwrites the processor. And they say you're too conservative or it's reputational risk. You're banned. Even if you find the right processor and the right bank, Visa and MasterCard, because they're a cartel, they still have final veto power because they control all the processing. they get to tell the banks we don't like this guy.
Starting point is 01:05:48 So even if you have a good bank, it a good processor, ultimately they have the final say. So I'm forced to deal with either e-check, in some cases, ACH or cryptocurrency. That's it. That's all I could do.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Wow, that is nuts, dude. People can't believe it when I tell them that because it's so, you know, you think it's basic. When you find out that when this happened to you, what reason did they give you? They don't give you a reason. Jeez.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Yeah. That's the worst part. Because it'd be one thing if they sent you a letter and they said, you know, you said this, you did that. Here's our terms of service that you violated because then you could contest it. Right. But they don't have to give you a reason. So I was on the no-fly list. Same deal.
Starting point is 01:06:28 They don't even tell you you're on that. You know, it's confidential law enforcement information. So the only way you find out is they just deny you boarding. And same thing with the banks. They just send you a letter. We're done doing business with you. It's the opaqueness, which is the worst part. Andrew Tate was on a show. He said, in Romania, you know exactly what the laws are. He said, but when you come to America, you don't know what the laws are.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Right. That's scary. Yeah, that's how they get you, you know? That's a, it's become so politicized. They will look at you. And because the federal law is so complex and vast and convoluted, if they want you, they can get you on something, whether it's taxes, whether it's for some people's a sex thing, like with Andrew Tate, it's like, well, you. You transported a woman from one country to another. That's sex trafficking. Or it's a weapons thing sometimes. You know, I got a buddy. He knew a girl who got assaulted by a guy. This was in Europe. He gave her pepper spray.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Say, here, protect yourself. He got arrested for light arms trafficking. Trafficked a light weapon. That's in the UK? It was in, I don't want to say, I don't want to docks him, but continental Europe. Yeah. So that's how they get you. You know, another guy.
Starting point is 01:07:45 A guy just happened. It's all over the place. This guy said, told a guy that speak English in the United Kingdom. Yeah. And the cop told him and said, hey, that's hate speech. White people are destroying themselves. Now you see, while we form this country. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:08:02 They left Europe. These people are psychos. A bunch of progressives. Yeah. And they started. Now it's been in, it's metastasized. It's came back over here. And that's in our government in our country.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Yeah. Like the, when I mention the- And the carrier is women. Right. When I mentioned the ideology, progressiveism, what's the first thing that pops in your head? Oh, AOC, progressive left. Yeah. She's doing a great job in destroying her party.
Starting point is 01:08:30 I think she's going to run. I think so? Yeah, I think, you know, people are talking about her getting like a leadership position in Congress. I think she's too radical, though. I don't think so. That's that party now, though. I don't think the Democrats. I don't think of a Democrat.
Starting point is 01:08:42 liberal could win a nomination for presidency to run it against Republicans. I don't think a liberal would pass it. I think they're progressive as hell now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like if a guy, like Gavin Newsom, I think he's a testament to that. He's out here saying men don't belong in women's sports, and the left is just annihilated him. And now he's dead to them. Look what did it into Ben Shapiro.
Starting point is 01:09:08 What's his name? The guy up in Pennsylvania, the, he burned his house. The governor. Yeah, Governor Shapiro, yes. Yeah, they burned his house down. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think it was like a Jewish thing.
Starting point is 01:09:18 It was on Passover. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But probably it was like... It's definitely a Jew thing. Yeah. Well, they don't like him because he's a Jewish Zionist.
Starting point is 01:09:29 And you're right. They have these, like, radical left-wing guys that are super pro-Palestinists. One of the good things about the other side. You know what? I want to ask you about this. What's that guy, they said he could be deported? I can't even pronounce his name. Oh, from Columbia?
Starting point is 01:09:41 Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's a, I think he's, is he Muslim? Mahmood Halil, yeah. Yeah, they said they're going to, they can, a judge's rule that they can deport him. But all he did was really protest for Palestinians, right? Mm-hmm. Did he do anything like? No, no crime.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Yeah, so the State Department has deported or given a notice to 300 students that are here legally. They're not illegal immigrants. They have a visa. In some cases, they're like this guy, Haleel, he was married to a U.S. citizen. Wow. So he's a legal resident of the United States, and they deported him because he had the wrong opinion. And the judge upheld that. So they imprisoned him in Louisiana, and then they're deporting him to the Middle East.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Because he criticized Israel. That's crazy. Yeah, that's your First Amendment. Yeah, Secretary of State and our president, they're all for it. Mm-hmm. Right. Yeah. That's what I'm just most offended by.
Starting point is 01:10:39 I mean, the other things Trump doing, I think is great, but I was like, man, I think he's simping for the Jews on this. Oh, yeah. How many things. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy, man. That's scary.
Starting point is 01:10:53 When you hear legally, you're married to a United States citizen, you say one thing about Israel, and they revoke your right to be here? This is the United States of Israel. A lot of people don't realize that. They have so much influence over our government. We're having a free speech absolutism, right? Yeah. I mean, we're supposed to be the party of free speech.
Starting point is 01:11:11 They're like, yeah, get them out. Yeah. Yeah, just, I do not understand why Republicans and conservatives do that. Fox News. Yeah. Yeah. We have boomers that watch us, and they're big, I mean, I'm not a, I'm against Zionist, right? That's who I'm against.
Starting point is 01:11:31 I'm not against Jews. I'm against Zionism, right? But when you look at these boomers, they really support Israel, and they always say they're they're our biggest ally you know and it's like and they get that because I've never heard Fox News say one bad or criticize Israel at all
Starting point is 01:11:50 whenever they talk about Palestine and Palestinians it's always terrorist yeah they're all terrorists and I'm noticing a lot of conservatives here lately going in on Muslims and I know they're getting paid yep
Starting point is 01:12:04 they got to be getting paid yeah and then I see how conservatives meeting up with Netanyahu. And then I see all these new posts about Muslims. I like, the way Muslims can fix this is just changing the name. Just like like a Jew. Yeah. You'll never know.
Starting point is 01:12:20 No joke, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't like that. Yeah, me neither. Well, and here's the thing about Muslims, you know, their beliefs are actually closer to Christians than Jews are. They're very conservative. They love Jesus.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Jews don't love Jesus. Yeah. Jews put him up there on the cross to begin with. They got no love for him. And, you know... It's almost like we've been brainwashed by Fox News, Fox News and Israel. It's pretty much Fox News. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Well, because they control your information diet. If you're a conservative, you're watching Fox News, Prager, Daily Wire, Blaze. Those are all controlled by Zionists. You know, Rupert Murdoch is a close personal friend of Netanyahu. Donated in Netanyahu's campaign for Prime Minister. Netanyahu visits, when he visits the United Kingdom, he uses Rupert Murdoch's apartment. He stays there. Like, that's who runs Fox.
Starting point is 01:13:14 And then, so you wonder, you know, why don't they say anything negative? Well, that's who runs it. And, you know, a lot of them are being paid, but it's also this, like, invisible hand of censorship, which is when I got started in the conservative space, when I was 18 years old, when I was in college, they put me on the pipeline to become an influencer, personality, whatever. And so they have all these campus organizations, Turning Point, Young Americans for Liberty, young Americans for Freedom. That is how they groom young conservatives to be talking heads, personalities, activists.
Starting point is 01:13:51 It starts very young. And so when I met a representative from one of those groups, I said, oh, you're a good talker, your great talent, we want to work with you, want you to write for us. The first thing they asked me, do you want to take a trip to Israel? No joke. And they sponsor them. These are paid sponsored trips. They call birthright or they go by different names, but they sponsor these trips, and every influencer goes to Israel.
Starting point is 01:14:16 They get the propaganda tour. They kiss the wall. They tell them, oh, the Palestinians are evil. They've been trying to kill us for a thousand years, blah, blah, blah. And then you come back, and they groom you for many. Oh, go to this Passover dinner. Go to this Shabbat dinner. CPAC, they acclimate you to this very, very pro-Israel culture in the right. And if you ever
Starting point is 01:14:38 ask a question about Israel, go against Israel, you're out, you're done. You're out of Turning Point. You're out of Young. At Turning Point, I'll give you a little, this is a little insider baseball. Turning Point USA, they have a list of guest speakers or like approved speakers that, no, no joke, like literally approved. If you have a chapter, this is who can speak. Seal of Israel. Yeah. Well, there's two speakers on that list of speakers that currently are suspended. So they're on the Turning Point website.
Starting point is 01:15:10 They're considered turning point speakers, but all the chapters are told you cannot invite those people to speak. Canis Owens, Elijah Schaefer. What are those having common? Right, right. Criticize Israel. So it's like, as a consequence, you get a conservative movement. where no one has ever criticized Israel, because if they did, they were toast.
Starting point is 01:15:33 A long time ago, they got trashed. So that is how they basically refine the conservative movement to have one position on this, and that's all, if you're just some normie, you're just some boomer or whatever watching TV, you got the eye, you know, your kid put you onto the iPad, you're watching the blaze, that's all you're ever going to hear. Because if you want to find me, I was banned for four years.
Starting point is 01:15:52 I just got back on Rumble, and they don't let me on the front page. That's how it goes. Right, right. Yeah, we got invited to go to Israel. I said, hell no. He said like a black woman. Hell no. I was like, I'm not going on this.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Yeah, we got invited. I said, no, thanks. I'm going to work. Yeah, well would I go there? I would feel so guilty if I went there. I think they make you put on the hat, too, huh? Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:22 Is it true you can't wear a cross? That is true. Wow. Yeah. If I went out there and did this, the hill the hill he's wearing it
Starting point is 01:16:31 if I do that will I get beaten yeah they will spit on you they will confront you no you're kidding you can look out there's videos of this Christians walk down the street
Starting point is 01:16:42 a lot of missionaries they get spit on they get attacked like mobs will form up around them and say you know you're a piece of shit you're a Christian we're better than you
Starting point is 01:16:53 that's because they hate Jesus they hate Jesus yeah in Israel when they teach math and school they don't use a plus sign. The most unmasculine look for the voice I ever see them my wife. What's up with them hats?
Starting point is 01:17:21 Like they was prevented from hitting puberty or something. That is crazy. You said in math they don't use that. less symbol? Yeah, so on math, they won't use the plus symbol. Because it looks like a cross. Because it looks too much like a cross. No, come on. 100%. Yeah. That's why they call them, you know, the racial slur
Starting point is 01:17:38 for Jews is well, I don't know if you're going to say it because it's a show, but that comes from the Hebrew word for circle. Because when the Jews came in on Ellis Island, they put a check or a cross next to your name, an axe, and the Jews said, no, don't put that
Starting point is 01:17:54 on there, put a circle instead. Because they don't want the cross next to their name. anything resembling across next to their name. That's how deep the hatred goes. Wow. Okay. In Israeli schools, an alternative plus sign. Wow.
Starting point is 01:18:08 I did not know that. It's an inverted T. Looks like a cock of balls. So, that is so weird. Isn't that crazy as hell? This is the first time I've ever heard of this. And you would think evangelical Christian conservative voters,
Starting point is 01:18:26 I didn't know this, and a lot of them don't know this. and all that stuff he gets said. But they're our biggest ally. Yeah. It's like a con. It's like a big joke. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Yeah. Yeah, they suppress the information. And the funny thing is they all know it. Ben Shapiro knows this stuff. Oh, yeah. He won't tell his audience because, you know, if he tells his audience,
Starting point is 01:18:49 who do you think watches his show? It's all these Christian Americans that are America first, love Jesus. He's Israel first, hates Jesus. Right. But Israel only. needs our country. They need our military. They need our money. And in order to secure that, they need all the Americans to think they're our closest ally. We have to protect them, religious
Starting point is 01:19:09 reasons, strategic reasons. But yeah, it's an unbelievable scandal. And I found this out, and that's what got me canceled. You know, it's crazy. We've been, we started reading the Bible. I was going to read it from front to end. And Israel is a family. Right? And the descendants of of that family. It's not like a country. It's just wherever that family lived and they were Jewish. So Jewish people, that's like a race, right? Not a religion? Yes. Well, it's both. It's both. It's an ethnic religion. And, you know, what a lot of Christians, it is a... So I can't be Jewish. No. Okay. No. I mean, some, there are different schools of thought. Some Jews accept converts, but the most hardcore Jews, Jewish law says it's matrilineal, meaning it's panellionial,
Starting point is 01:19:59 passed down by the mother, your mom has to be Jewish. If your mom's not Jewish, they don't recognize you as Jewish. Wow. And the so-called converts, I got a friend who's Jewish, and his father married a non-Jew, a Gentile. And the Jewish family excommunicated him. They don't talk to him anymore. Because all his kids are not Jewish. He has to marry Jewish woman.
Starting point is 01:20:21 They seem as like a race traitor, basically. But the difference is, you know, Christians, A lot of Christians have this idea that, you know, we all read the Bible. You know, the Jews are the Old Testament or the New Testament. But the New Testament, the relationship between the New Testament and the Old Testament, it's not a sequel. The New Testament and the theology in it replaces the theology of the Old Testament. So in the Old Testament, you have a religion that's based on the people of Israel. They make sacrifices at the temple.
Starting point is 01:20:56 They have rabbis. They have the law. But when Jesus arrives, he changes everything because he becomes the law. We say that he is the law. The law is embodied in him. So the Jews are saying, well, the law of Moses says, you have to stone this woman. And he says, well, I'm the law. He says, let he who is without sin casts a first stone.
Starting point is 01:21:18 He completes and fulfills and perfects the law. He personifies the law. So in the same way that God gave Moses the Ten Commandments in the Ark of the covenant, God gave us the law through Mary. We see Mary as the new Ark of the covenant. We see Jesus as the New Ten Commandments. She carried him in her womb, just like the Ark carried the Old Testament. He is the law. He fulfills the law, just like the Old Testament was the law. And then when Jesus dies on the cross, the veil is torn inside the temple. And within a generation, the temple itself is destroyed. You know, as I'll talk about the temple, the temple itself is destroyed because Jesus
Starting point is 01:22:01 becomes a new temple. There's no need for a temple. There's no need for animal sacrifices. He becomes a sacrifice. So in the Old Testament, they're sacrificing animals. They talk about the red heifer. They're trying to do that. God gives us a more perfect sacrifice. He offers up himself. And so this is where a lot of the Protestants say, well, you know, we need to support Israel because the Bible says those who bless Israel will be blessed. But Israel... They're talking about... Well, they're talking about...
Starting point is 01:22:31 That's in the book of Genesis. And the book of Genesis is talking about what is Israel in the Old Testament and the first covenant that God makes with the Jewish people. When Jesus comes, just like everything else, Israel's transformed. The law's changed, the priesthood has changed,
Starting point is 01:22:47 the temple has changed, and Israel changes. What was the family and the race becomes the body of Christ. He says, there is neither Jew nor Gentile. The new Israel is the Christians. We're the new Israel. If you believe in Christ, you're now the chosen people. You enter into the covenant with God. You're grafted onto that tree. And so that's a theological difference that we call supersessionist has with these dispensationalist
Starting point is 01:23:14 Christians. Yeah, because I always hear Republicans saying they're God chosen people. That's not necessarily true. Not anymore, no. Yeah. That's why they hate him so much. Mm-hmm. Right. Yeah. I just started reading the Bible. I actually just reading it. Yeah, so it's like it's like a damn riddle. I can't understand.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Yeah. Yeah, but I'm getting it. But I'm like, yeah, Israel's a damn family. I'm taking the Lord's name in vain. I haven't read all the way through. You're much more advanced than I am, so I can see the understanding behind it, yeah. Yeah, it's a completely
Starting point is 01:23:54 different religion, you know. They think that Judaism and the Old Testament are like part one, and we're like part two. It's like, no, what Jesus did completely changed everything. And why they hate him so much is because they're filled with racial pride, because they're still expecting their Messiah. They wanted a Messiah, because they were living under occupation by the Romans. They wanted a Messiah who would come and destroy the Romans. They wanted a Messiah who would come and make Israel a great country, empower their people, give them a kingdom. They wanted a king like David or like Solomon, who would kill all their enemies, make them the most powerful country on earth. And what they got was Jesus, who said, I came for everybody. I came to die.
Starting point is 01:24:39 I came to serve. I came to be a humble servant. They didn't like that. They said, we don't like this Jesus. We wanted Jesus. It's going to make us the emperor of the world and kill all our enemies. That is what offended them so much. And that's what got them crucified. That's what got him crucified. I'm like maybe first 10% of the Bible. What is it? What version are we
Starting point is 01:25:01 reading? The old Genesis. I mean, it's the old testament. No, no, it's not Genesis. The King James? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, we're in Leviticus. How you say it? Leviticus? That's a sexual book. Stupid. Well, I just got to Leviticus. Yeah, but this is the King James version, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:17 Yeah. We should the fuck. Right, and I came across it says, Palestineia. Is that, does that mean anything to you? Mm-hmm. What does that mean? That was the Roman name that was given to that area. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's a Roman name for that province. And Israel is just the, was the family of Jacob and his descendants. It wasn't necessarily a country. It's just wherever they lived, right? Yes. So, but Palestine was an actual place.
Starting point is 01:25:50 A lot of Republicans said it never existed. Palestine never existed, and they did. That's something that Jewish people say. That's just like loaded up. It's something only a Jewish man would say. A Jewish person would say, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's sort of like how, you know, somebody here, or let's say somebody in Texas would say like, this is America. You know, it's like it's a deep contention about the identity of the place.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Right, right, right. You know, so the Jew, like, they'll even say, for example, the disputed territory in Israel's Gaza, Gaza and the West Bank, and the Jews say, no, you can't call it the West Bank. It's Judea and Samaria, because they believe that if you say West Bank, it almost, like, denies the Jewish claim to that territory. They want to call it the biblical Jewish name for that territory because that reflects their claim over the land. They're like, no, no, West Bank, this is new.
Starting point is 01:26:46 thousands of years ago, we call the Judean Samaria. That's what it was then. That's what it always is. It was ours then. It will always be ours. So it's bound up with their contention over their right to the land. And that's why there's no such thing as a Palestine. And what they mean by that is there is some truth to the fact that there has never been a nation state called Palestine. You know, 100 years ago, what is Palestine was controlled by the Ottoman Empire. It was called UK Palestine or something like? Yeah, it was the mandate of Palestine, yeah, in the United Kingdom. But the United Kingdom took it from the Ottomans after World War I.
Starting point is 01:27:25 It was controlled by Turkey. Turkey lost the war. And then Britain and France split up their territories. The UK got Palestine. But the point is, for thousands of years, you know, since the, I think you may it or Abbasid Caliphate, it was just under control by a Muslim empire. by an Arab or Turkic Muslim Empire. And so they say there is never a country called Palestine. Palestine was a province of the Roman Empire.
Starting point is 01:27:51 Palestine was a province of the Abbasid Caliphate or the Ottoman Empire, and then the British Empire. But no one ever said, I'm in the same way that you would say, I'm German. Germany is a country. France is a country. It's more like a state. Right, yeah. Like no one would say I'm an Illinoisan. Like, what is that really?
Starting point is 01:28:09 Right. Is that really identity? Sounds gay, too. Yeah, yeah. I'm a Chicago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, so they say that to basically undermine the Palestinians' claim to the land. They say, oh, there's no such thing as a Palestine.
Starting point is 01:28:25 We're the only country, that real country that's ever existed here. That's why they say it. I don't know why people don't realize bombing your own citizens and murdering children and kids, that's like a bad thing. It's like a war crime. Yeah. I don't, I still, to this, I don't get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:42 I'm surprised Republicans don't get it. Yeah, I know. I mean, we're supposed to be the smartest group of people in the country. I mean, which we are, but why they don't see this, I don't understand. As Trump endorsed a very clearly, morally contemptible man for Congress, simply because APEC wants him into office, okay? That man's name is Randy. Fine. He's truly just on its face.
Starting point is 01:29:05 He's a disgusting person. Just disgusting. Look at him. Do you hear this? Yeah. And he's so disgusting that he doesn't even try to hide it. He openly mocks photos of dead Muslim babies on Twitter. These are real ex-tweets from him.
Starting point is 01:29:21 I'm just going to show you a few of them. Just to understand, like, this is who Trump got behind. Gaza must be destroyed, period. As if no humans live there. Palestinian is a code word for Hamas. Bombs away. He doesn't care. Kill every last Palestinian.
Starting point is 01:29:35 It's great. There's another one from him. Palestinian. is just another word for demon. He's writing this. I just want you guys to try to flip that. I'll go back to that one. Try to flip that.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Imagine if I was running for office and I wrote, Jewish is just another word for demon. Jew is just another word for demon. Israeli, rather, be more precise, Israeli is just another word for demon. You would go nowhere in politics. But for him, Trump's like, elect this guy.
Starting point is 01:30:05 A-PAC wants him. Okay? And so he did that. Let's go on to another one of his tweets. So blow up the schools. No mercy. He's just talking about blowing up schools, you know, where tons of kids have died.
Starting point is 01:30:19 Tens of thousands of children have been murdered there. And he's at least honest about the fact that he doesn't care. And lastly, here's him responding when someone showed him a picture of a dead baby. And they asked him, how do you sleep, right? They asked him supporting the killing of innocent people and babies and smearing voices that fight against genocide for some A-PAC money, says a lot about your character. You should be ashamed of yourself, Randy. How do you sleep at night?
Starting point is 01:30:45 He responds and says quite well, actually, thanks for the pick. That's crazy. Trump literally tweeted last week or two weeks ago, whatever was, vote for this guy, A-PAC-indorced. Now, is Trump? That's why you don't vote, huh? Yeah. That's why you didn't vote for him.
Starting point is 01:31:04 You see that AI video, Trump came out about. Gaza? No. Even threw a couple trillions in there. You had it? No. Yeah, this is his, I don't know if he's trolling, but I think he's serious. This is his vision for Gaza.
Starting point is 01:31:18 Yeah. Which I looked at the photos of that place. That's probably the best real estate in the world. Hmm. No. There's the transgender. That's a sign. Number one.
Starting point is 01:31:50 Trump Gaza future. A brand new life. Feast and days the deal is done. Trump Gaza. Number one. And this is the same time he said he was going to take all of the Palestinians and give him the own land and all this. I was like, man, it's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:08 Well, and it's a glib video. They're trying to make it funny. They're trying to make it into a meme. And I'm not a bleeding heart liberal by any stretch. But the people in Gaza are literally being starved to death. Right. Because all the eight we give to Israel is going straight to them. None of it goes to the Palestinians.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Exactly. Yeah, well, they intercept it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They intercept all of it. And they say, oh, well, anything that's dual use, Israel will confiscate. So, for example, if a truckload of humanitarian aid has a pair of scissors in it, Israel says, well, scissors could be a weapon. We're blocking the whole truck.
Starting point is 01:32:41 That's the pretext with how they do it. But, yeah, they have blockaded the entire thing. All the checkpoints are closed. There's no electricity. They shut down the electricity, no water, no foods getting in, no medicine. They bomb the hospitals, schools, farmland, residential areas. I mean, so these people, all 2.1 million are just being systematically killed. Like, by definition, that's what's happening. And I don't know how any Christian can support that. Right. Right. You know, you could say America has strategic objectives. We don't want Iran to get a nuclear weapon. That's legitimate. We don't want China to invade Taiwan. Okay, that's legitimate. we're going to murder two million people.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Right. And this is, it's happening only because of the United States. People say, well, you know, we shouldn't send them aid. It's deeper than that. This could not happen without us. Like, it's the aid. We would veto any security council resolution against it. We come in, if any other country tried to intervene to stop this, we come in to scare them off.
Starting point is 01:33:43 It is only happening because of us. And we're going to pay the price. our reputation suffering. The Muslim world's going to hate us for generations. Probably there's going to be a terrorist attack inspired by this. So the blood's on our hands, and Christians support it. I don't know how you could do that. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:34:39 If it was African seamoss, I wouldn't trust it. But it's Irish seamos. So you know it comes from the good old white people. Go to fish for hawkswins.com and get you some damn good seymoss. Yeah. I wasn't going to really talk about the Jews, but I just couldn't help myself. You know, me and Keith won an award. What was it, Joe?
Starting point is 01:35:05 It was anti-Semites for the week? Yeah, it's like... Of the week. How many anti-Semites you got away a year? And I'm not even anti-Semitic. Yeah. Just criticize. It's the same type of...
Starting point is 01:35:21 Yeah. You can't criticize. Yeah. Same thing happened to Canada. She can call out the black community, but soon as she said some Muslim Jews. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:35:30 She was axed. Yeah. Speaking of Kansas, here's Ben Shapiro. Okay. Good evening, Mr. Piro. You've consistently commented the idea that America was built on Judeo... Are you saying this?
Starting point is 01:35:43 Yeah. Yeah. As a devout Christian, I have difficulty accepting the term, given Judaism's rejection of Jesus. Christians believe Jesus Christ is God. In contrast, the Talmud, a central Jewish holy book, teaches that Jesus is burning in hell, fire, and excrement.
Starting point is 01:35:59 And while the New Testament tells us to love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us, so from 15 of the Talmud states that even the best of the Gentile should be killed. Given these irreconcilable differences, why do you insist on using this oxymoronic term? First of all, that's a really bad read of the Talmud. Second of all, the notion that you can cite any text in support of the idea that Judaism broad writ is somehow disdainful or hateful of Christians or of people who are not Jewish is, in fact, a tremendous misread of Judaism over the centuries and particularly today. I can cite sections in the New Testament that I find personally problematic.
Starting point is 01:36:39 I can certainly cite segments in the Quran that I find personally problematic. The truth is I could probably find place in the Old Testament that I find personally problematic. That does not speak to what Judaism is. is and its historic impact on the world. Judaism is the foundation of Christianity. Jesus himself acknowledged this. The New Testament acknowledges this. The notion that Judaism and Christianity
Starting point is 01:36:58 are somehow completely delinked and teach two completely separate lessons ignores the fact that the Old Testament is part and parcel of the New Testament. Sure, Christians and Jews think different things. Of course. Otherwise, I'd be a Christian or you'd be a Jew. If we thought completely the same thing, then presumably we would have the exact same religion.
Starting point is 01:37:13 But the notion that Judaism and Christianity are completely delinked is wrong. As far as miscitations from the Talmud, or even citations of text that are written in the year 500 CE at a time when Jews were being persecuted by Christians in the Roman Empire, that seems to me a real stretch to get to the idea that Jews today are overall hateful of Christians. I'm not sure that there's anybody in America, personally speaking, who's pushed more people back to church than me. I really don't know that there is anybody who's done that. I tell Christians literally all the time to go to church. I tell Christians all the time to re-engage with their faith.
Starting point is 01:37:46 I think it is deeply, deeply important that they do. I don't try to convert people to Judaism because that's actually forbidden in Jewish law. I'm not supposed to convert people to Judaism. So I know the people who spend all day online cherry picking bad lines from the Talmud, a text that they have no familiarity with, and then trying to spin that into a giant myth about how Jews are seeking the extermination of Christians or some other bizarre conspiracy theory. It's a lie, it's stupid, and the Judeo-Christian values of the nation are quite real,
Starting point is 01:38:13 because once again, Judaism and Christianity have an awful lot in common. Yeah. Let me say this. He says, I don't push people to Judaism. Like, you can't. I can't be a Jew. Right. So why would he say that? And why is people spitting it people, Christians went across? And why did you, like, banned the cross out of your mathematics? Yeah. There's a reason why you don't push people to Judaism, because we can't be Jews. Right. Yeah. And it's like a lot of people, a lot of his followers are ignorant to that. Well, they think that his religion, like every other one, is universal. And, like, if you're a Muslim, you believe anyone can be a Muslim. All you have to do is say, God is only God, Muhammad is a prophet. If you say that, you're a Muslim. Christians believe if you get baptized, you believe, depending on the sect, anyone could be a Christian. But Jews believe that, like, they are human beings and everyone else is an animal.
Starting point is 01:39:04 They think that they have souls, and we don't. Right. They have one set of laws and we have another. And everyone, it's just like a baseline assumption. Universalism, I would even say liberalism is like a universal religion in the sense that they believe in equality and everyone can vote and everybody can access reason. Everybody can learn science or get educated. But Judaism is exclusionary. It says this one race is the chosen people. One race has a law. One race has a soul. And he just lies. I mean, In the Talmud, it says, and there's a book about it, Jesus in the Talmud by Peter Schaefer. It is indisputable.
Starting point is 01:39:45 He says those are misquotes, or it's a false citation. Yeah. It is a while ago. Yeah, right. It's 2,000 years ago. It's very clearly about Jesus. It says that his mother's a whore. He's burning in hell.
Starting point is 01:40:00 They say he's a sorcerer. And, you know, and he also says, well, Christianity comes from Judaism. Judaism breaks off from Christianity at the time. of Christ and become something different. That's what they don't talk about. There's a whole mystical branch of Judaism. That's where the word Kabbal comes from. You would say Kabbal. Kabal comes from Kabbalah, which is Jewish mysticism, which became popular. That's the basis of Freemasonry. That's the basis of Illuminesism. It's all based in Jewish mystic books, which came after the New Testament. After Christ, After the New Testament, Old Testament.
Starting point is 01:40:36 They come from the Zohar comes from the Middle Ages. And that's where they base all this stuff out of. This term that was in the Old Testament, it said synagogue of Satan. Who is you think they was referring to? It's pretty obvious. It's not very subtle. Well, synagogue, you know the synagogue is, right? It's a Jewish church.
Starting point is 01:41:01 Right, right, right. It's a little on the nose. Y'all been asking stupid questions. Yeah. Yeah, what do they call a Muslim church? I forget. Mosque. A mosque.
Starting point is 01:41:13 A mosque. It didn't call it a mosque of Satan? It didn't say church of Satan. It said synagogue and said it. Yeah. That's wild. That's in the Bible. Jesus said that.
Starting point is 01:41:25 And he was a Jew. Yeah. You know, my older brother, he said this word anti-Semitic. My brother told me. He's like 10, 11 years old enough? He says, how can I be anti-Semitic? My Lord and Savior was a Jew. It's true.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Yeah. It's almost like that term is made up just for Israel so that you can't criticize them. It was. Yeah. That's the purpose of it. Because you forget Palestinians, they're Semitic. Right. Muslims, Arab.
Starting point is 01:41:53 All Arabs are Semitic. They're Semitic, but they own the right to. I guess they like the best, it doesn't make any sense. Well, they're Gentiles. They're the cream of the crop. So that works. Starting to think Trump's a Jew. I askanazy you.
Starting point is 01:42:09 Yeah. Yeah, I don't get that, man. And I understand why you didn't vote because we're doing a lot of evil thing across the world in the name of our biggest ally, Israel. Yeah. Well, and it's going to backfire because Trump ran the first time on America first, which is we're going to get out of the Middle East. And it's very obvious that after October 7th, they supported Trump. because they knew he would support them in the Middle East. That's why I said, I'm out.
Starting point is 01:42:36 You know, he's going to... Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because after October 7th, they said, even a lot of the liberal Jews said, we got to support Republicans because Biden was trying to stop Israel from doing what they're doing in Gaza. It wasn't successful, but they knew a Republican Congress, a Republican president. Trump already gave him $12 billion. He's been in office three months, gave him $12 billion. They're going to sign another memorandum of understanding that'll give them four and eight every year,
Starting point is 01:43:02 for 25 years. Previous one was 10 years. This one's going to be 25 years. They'd give him more money every year. So they knew that electing him, he's going to be the more pro-Israel, the two. That's why they put him in. So I said, I'm just not going to vote for that.
Starting point is 01:43:18 These are two bad options. It's going to backfire on America first. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, when I see, every time I try to say his name, Kanye pops in my mind with that damn net. I see him Netanyahu sits in his chair
Starting point is 01:43:35 and he tucks him in I was like what the hell was that I've never seen Trump tuck somebody in a chair a male he did it a few times he did it with Modi with the Indian president I'll be objective with that
Starting point is 01:43:49 he did it I see it with Modi the Indian president okay no I don't feel so bad well he caught my eye when he did it with Net and Yavre yeah it's just gross when he does a Rial Yeah. Yeah, hopefully, I don't know how this ends, but man, what do you think that? How does this all going to end?
Starting point is 01:44:10 The Middle East? Israel's going to nuke everybody. Well, I mean, not far off. I think so. That's how it ends. Because they got nuclear weapons, right? That's right. Well, and, you know, right now the big question is Iran. What are we going to do with them? Because basically, from October 7th. This has been the master plan, is to bring the United States into a war with Iran. It's what they've wanted to do for 20 years. And, you know, for reasons we could get into Iran is the only challenger to Israel to be a regional power. It's Israel versus Iran, and that's it. And the reason being is because Iran has proxies in basically every country. The leader of Iran, the Ayatollah,
Starting point is 01:44:55 is not just a political leader. He's a religious leader. Iran is a center of Shia. Islam, which is the second biggest sect of Islam. The king of Saudi Arabia, he's the custodian of the two mosques. He's the head of Sunni Islam. The Ayatollah in Iran is the head of Shiite Islam, and the clerics that are on the country. They're the head of that branch. So they influence all the Shiite Muslims in the whole region. There are Shiite Muslims in Iraq, alloys in Syria and Bahrain, in Saudi Arabia. They're everywhere. So Iran influences all these Muslims in every other country religiously, and since the 80s, Iran's Revolutionary Guard has been training up all of these militias in the Shiite parts of the Middle East. So they raised
Starting point is 01:45:40 up Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen, these militias in Iraq, they infiltrated Syria. And so Israel has the United States. We pay off Egypt, Jordan, we have bases in Saudi Arabia, a cutter, we pay off the Emirates, Kuwait. We have half the region because of we and Israel has half the region because of our money, because of our military. Iran, they're the only other regional power because they influence these populations in all the other countries. They have this religious influence, military influence, and they are one of the more powerful countries just because of their characteristics. 90 million people, big middle class, diversified economy, they're educated. They have a nuclear program, missile program, drone program. They have a Navy. So Israel and
Starting point is 01:46:31 Iran, these are the last player standing. Forty years ago, you had Libya, you had Iraq, you had Egypt, you had Syria. These are all powerful countries. You had Sudan, one by one. They've all been destroyed. Iraq was destroyed by the United States. Syria destroyed by the United States. Sudan, Civil War, backed by Israel in the United States. Somalia is falling apart at the seams right now. Libya, overthrown by the United States. Iran and Israel, these are the last one standing. After October 7th, Israel said, we're going to piece by piece dismantle Iran's empire, starting with Hamas, then Hezbollah, then the Houthis, and then we take out all of them, we're going to deliver the killing blow against Iran. problem is they can't take out Iran on their own because if Israel attacks Iran, Iran's going to get a nuclear bomb. Iran has a capability to make one, but they haven't determined to make one yet because they know if they do that, it will invite an attack from Israel and the United States.
Starting point is 01:47:32 So they're on the fence. If they don't have any nuclear program, they're vulnerable. But if they get a bomb, they'll get attacked. Israel cannot attack Iran. They're not powerful enough. They need us to do it. But we, for obvious reasons, don't want to do it. We've spent 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan. We don't want to fight Iran. We have no beef with them. So Israel's trying to create a, they're trying to manufacture a situation where we're both forced to fight each other. So last year in April, Israel bombed Iran's embassy in Syria, which is like totally against international law. Embassies are off limits. You just can't do that. It's like the foundation. of all international law. Iran had to respond. If they don't, they look weak. This was their first provocation. Israel bombed their embassy to force Iran to attack Israel because they knew that if Iran counterattacked, the United States would be forced to intervene to defend Israel. So there was this intense diplomacy where the United States, we put aircraft carriers there. We put all these assets there to send a message to Iran. If you attack Israel, we will destroy you. So Iran, they launched like, I don't know, 50 missiles at Israel, didn't hit anything. They had to do something, but they couldn't do
Starting point is 01:48:50 anything meaningful. If they did nothing, they would look like a bitch. But if they hit them too hard, the United States would retaliate. So Iran averted the confrontation. Then again in July, end of July, Israel assassinated the leader of Hamas inside Iran on their inauguration day. Iran was inaugurating a new president and the Palestinian leader was visiting the capital. Israel blew him up. Massad exploded his hotel where he was staying and killed them. Once again, another major provocation. Could you imagine if a foreign head of state was killed in D.C.? When Trump was being inaugurated, we would nuke them. We would blow them to pieces. Once again, Iran had to attack Israel.
Starting point is 01:49:32 The United States pulled up again with two aircraft carriers said, not so fast. If you intervene, we're going to hit you back. Iran waited two months. They did a much bigger attack on Israel. This time some of the missiles hit. It was a little bit more severe. But again, the United States and Israel did not respond. Now that Trump is in office, Israel recognizes this is a perfect opportunity because Trump is a Zionist.
Starting point is 01:49:57 Trump got $100 million from Miry Madelson. He got money from the Israel lobby to become president. He appointed neocons. Mike Walts, his national security advisor, wants war with Iran. Rubio, Secretary of State wants war with Iran. They set this situation up. Lindsey Graham, who's a big, he's a neocon, big ally of Trump. They set it up where now they're going to restart the war in Gaza.
Starting point is 01:50:21 They've restarted the war with the Houthis in Yemen. That's the on-ramp to get the United States to bomb Iran. So this weekend, this is very topical, the Trump administration had a meeting with Iran. They sent Steve Whitkoff. He met with the foreign minister of Iran. Trump said, you have 60 days to make a nuclear deal or else we're going to war. And everyone, including myself, said, this is impossible. There's never going to be a nuclear deal. For complex reasons, it's just not going to happen.
Starting point is 01:50:48 And if it happens, it's not going to happen in 60 days. So it's a guaranteed war. But it looks like things that's looking up, like the meetings went well, both. side said it was positive, said it was constructive. But if diplomacy becomes viable, if we get close to a deal, Israel's going to come back in and sabotage it. Israel's going to come in. They're going to do some provocation. Like, let's say, for example, what if, God forbid, some American base is attacked, and it's blamed on Iran? There goes your deal. What happens if Israel attacks Iran? There goes your deal. Iran can't make a deal with the United States.
Starting point is 01:51:27 States, if they're getting attacked by Israel. So if we get too close to a deal, they're going to sabotage it, and they're going to put us on a path to war. And so I think it's basically unavoidable at this point that we're going to war with Iran. And then when Iran is destroyed, then Israel gets to do whatever they want. There'll be nobody left to oppose them. Whole Middle East will be under their influence. And they're in the center. Think about where Israel's located. They're in the middle of Asia, Europe, and Africa. They're in the center of all global trade. The Belt and Road, the China's building, the rail, the shipping routes, all of it goes through the Middle East. And so when you control the Middle East, it's not like controlling, you know, like Mexico or whatever.
Starting point is 01:52:08 You control the Middle East is like the most important region in the world. It's all the oil. It's all these other energy resources. It's all the supply chains, all the shipping routes. Is that what Trump won't Greenman? That's part of it, yeah. Yeah. Because of, you know, the Arctic is melting.
Starting point is 01:52:25 and so that's going to be viable for shipping. It wasn't viable before because it was all ice, but now that it's melting, now there's going to be a lot of trade. It's also important for missile defense. You know, if a missile comes from China, it's going to come over the Arctic. So we want to deploy radar so we could see that. So it's really for power projection.
Starting point is 01:52:47 But, yeah, I mean, you start to understand it all comes down to strategy, all comes down to military strategy. and Israel wants, if they take out Iran, they control everything, and it's a very important region to control. People don't even realize they're going to become a global power. You know, people think of Israel as like our satellite. They're like our puppet or like a junior partner. At 50 years, Israel's going to be a big player.
Starting point is 01:53:13 They're going to be a great power. Like the UK was, like France, they're going to be a serious player. So people have no idea. And then they won't need us. Right. You know, then they'll be on their own. So that's a very scary situation where the United States doesn't have power over them or leverage. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:53:31 Fuck. What about Putin and president of China? How do you feel about, you think, about Israel? Well, Putin is close with Israel. People don't realize this. Yeah. But that's because Russia has a huge Jewish population, always has. And so Putin has a rabbi, and he has good relations with Israel.
Starting point is 01:53:49 And so does China, for that matter. But insofar as Israel and the United States are joined at the hip, China and Russia are less pro-Israel than the United States. But they're never against Israel. You know, Israel's part of the Belt and Road, which is China's infrastructure project. And Israel's allied with Russia. So, you know, a lot of people think like, oh, Russia's fighting against this. They have their hands in everything, unfortunately. The only countries that are against Israel, it's Iran.
Starting point is 01:54:21 That's about it. And that's whoever wants to destroy. Wow. That's crazy. Makes sense why Fox News and everybody's all. The Muslims are a bunch of terrorists. They want to make like, we're just going to clean the house because these people are evil and they hate Christians. Right.
Starting point is 01:54:41 Well, yeah, because if they're terrorists, they got to go. So they just say, anybody that sympathizes, you're supporting terrorism. It's just like the oldest trick in the book. Yeah. Hey, how do you feel about all your talking points becoming mainstream news now? All your talking points you've been talking about for years. Now it's like it's more prevalent in like on Instagram, like everybody's sharing your same views. Podcasts, influential people saying the exact same things you've been saying.
Starting point is 01:55:06 Yeah. It's shocking. I never thought it would happen this fast or that it would happen at all. Because years ago, I was radioactive, you know, in 2017, when I was saying the stuff back then, nobody would touch me at the 10.4. poll for saying this, and you would get banned, and now as part of it. So it's kind of unbelievable, and I'm actually a little bit skeptical of it, to tell you the truth, because I think that what you tend to find is that the system is very good at controlling the opposition. You know, controlled opposition is always, in my opinion, the biggest threat, which is to say that if you
Starting point is 01:55:43 are running the country, and you have like, you know, just just because of human nature, not every everybody's going to agree with what you're doing. And he might be unpopular at times. So people are going to protest, rebel, resist, vote for the opposite party. So the most resilient way to run a country is to not only control your own side, but to also control the opposition. And this is how a lot of people look at the country, that the right and the left are really two sides of the same coin. You know, when people get tired of the left, they give you the right. People get tired of the right, they give you the left. But really, they're giving you a lot of the same stuff. And you get this illusion of change. Oh, well, you know, we got Trump in. Now things are going to improve. Oh, we got the left. And now things are going to get better. And you kind of play both sides off of each other. And I think that in some ways, whereas I represent an organic opponent of the system, I'm someone that's actually criticizing some of the most important issues. They recognize it's becoming popular. They recognize people are resonating with that message. But they don't want someone that's independent to be saying it because they don't control me. They don't
Starting point is 01:56:49 pay me. I kind of hate them because they ruined my life. So I'm, you know, if I ever had power, I would wield it against them. So they say, well, why don't we get someone that sounds like him, but they're really with us? And that person will be promoted. That person won't have barriers or obstacles. That person will become more popular. And that person, you know, they, they sound close enough, but they're not quite saying the same thing. And they can sound very close, but they'll, that person is never independent. That person will always be dependent on the system. And I think that's a huge.
Starting point is 01:57:24 It's called infiltration, skin-suting. Like perfect example has happened with the Tea Party. Tea Party was organic. People said, all right, we've had enough of big government and taxes and the bailouts. We want to have another tea party. And Republicans figured it out. And Republicans just learned how to sound like tea partiers.
Starting point is 01:57:43 And they infiltrated. People like Mark Rubio, he was one of the first. Pretended to be a tea partier. He was one of the big, he beat Charlie Christian the primary in 2012 to win the nomination for the Senate seat in Florida. Then he gets in and betrays the Tea Party, joins a gang of aid on immigration, betrays all the fiscal conservatives. This is what they're very good at doing. And it's happened for many generations. It's like there's a rebellion on the conservative side.
Starting point is 01:58:12 The base of the GOP says the GOP isn't good. They're not conservative enough. we need to throw the bastards out and get good people. And there's a lot of energy behind it, but then the GOP, they just pick it up. They learn how to talk to talk. They learn how to make themselves seem like they're part of that, that rebellious part of the movement. That happened with the Buchananites, with the paleocons. It happened with the America Firsters, anti-communists, and it happened with the Tea Partyers,
Starting point is 01:58:40 and now it's happening with the Trumpists. I think J.D. Vance is your, that's a perfect example. J.D. Vance in 16 was saying Trump is Hitler. He's a rapist. Everything that the liberals were saying. People said he had an epiphany. No, he decided to run for Senate. And he knew he could only win if he had Trump's endorsement.
Starting point is 01:58:58 So he's bitching about Trump for all these years. I, Trump's a Nazi. He's an idiot. He's a racist. I love Obama. Then Trump wins. And he goes, oh, shit. I got to run for Senate.
Starting point is 01:59:09 And I'm against a sitting president. So Peter Thiel, J.D. Vance's mentor and a major donor to Trump sets up a meeting. And Vance and Teal and Trump sit down at Mar-a-Lago and they broker a truce. J.D. Vance becomes Maga. Oh, now he's a big Trump supporter. That's your epiphany. And Trump endorses him. And then he becomes a senator.
Starting point is 01:59:30 And it's like, and now people think he's the greatest thing since Slice Brad. But that's just textbook infiltration. So I'm very skeptical of anybody that sounds like me, you know. Say it when it was difficult. Now it's easy to say it. And now you got people saying it to make money. Now I got people saying it because they just if they learn the truth. Some people are saying it because they're trying to steal the credibility that people like me have earned for telling the truth when it was difficult.
Starting point is 01:59:57 And they're redirecting it back into the same politics. It's crazy. Just when you think you know something. You invite Nick Fuentes on your show. Makes you feel like a dumb fuck. Hey, man. So that's why people don't want to interview. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:18 Yeah, because, I mean, what do people have to gain from interviewing me? I mean, you get canceled. I'm about ready to just give up now. Yeah. Why? We're trying to solve making sense now. You know? It's fucking.
Starting point is 02:00:32 Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. How corrupt our government is. Mm-hmm. Yeah. We actually are the United States of Israel. We're funding everything for them.
Starting point is 02:00:42 We fund everything. But he'll have this out. But Hillary was right. There you go. It's demoralizing. But the good news is people are, this is not the scenario they prefer. People are waking up. And it is a big threat to them. And they're always going to have a counter.
Starting point is 02:01:01 You know, we were telling the truth. They were censoring us. We prevailed. The censorship stopped. People are being persuaded. Now they have to deploy a countermeasure. The countermeasure is to muddy the waters, you know, infiltrate. Have you seen people, they're actually calling you a Fed now?
Starting point is 02:01:16 Yeah, that's the new thing. Yeah. Didn't take a lot. I was a Nazi for four years, and now I'm a fat. Can't win. That's an approved, right? Yeah, I don't know. Is it?
Starting point is 02:01:30 Yeah, right. At least the Nazi thing was closer to being true, you know? Yeah. The left Harris-Botton, are they? Are they supportive of Israel? Yeah, they are. They are. Yeah, they all are.
Starting point is 02:01:43 But, I mean, Biden was Apex man, you know? Biden was the Israel lobby's man. He was the number one recipient of Israel money in the Senate for decades. But there's factionalism even among the Jewish people. You know, Biden had allies in Israel's government that are against Netanyahu. And so they just have a different, you know, there's factionalism among the Jews, among Israelis. So it's not as people like to just, oh, it's just, it's the Jews. It is a little more nuanced than that.
Starting point is 02:02:15 But at the end of the day, they're all on the same side. Same side. You know, the ADL and Ben Shapiro were on the same side on October 7th. That's all you need to know. You know, they pretend like they're not, but they are. Hey, Tim Poole, I think he just, he met it with NetN Yahoo, didn't he? Yeah. It's kind of weird, right?
Starting point is 02:02:35 Yeah. Yeah. You know what else is weird? they both got money from Russia. Remember that? Right, yeah, yeah. Dave Rubin and Tim Poole, they were both Tenet guys. Tenet was that media company with Lauren Chen.
Starting point is 02:02:48 They got busted because they got all this money from Russia. It was funded by Russia, undisclosed. Yeah. And then they're the ones at the Netanyahu meeting. So it's like, hmm. Was it Russia money? Yeah, well, yeah, right? It's interesting, isn't it?
Starting point is 02:03:03 Yeah. But there's a huge, that's a huge nexus, Russia and Israel. But it just goes to show it's like, is there anybody in the conservative media landscape that isn't taking foreign money? Yeah. I mean, because Tim Poole is a pretty popular guy. Yeah. He's left on YouTube. And you wonder, how does a radical pro-Trump guy like that?
Starting point is 02:03:24 How does he stay on YouTube? Well, I think he just found your answer. I mean, with Netanyahu and Russia. Yeah. They're getting foreign money. So, and he calls me a Fed. It's like, I'm not meeting with BB Netanyahu. So I think I'm good, actually, you know?
Starting point is 02:03:36 I didn't get money from Russia. Right. But the point is, like, things are way more complicated than they seem. People think at the end of the day, that's what Red Pill means. Red Pill, people think Red Pill means being, like, conservative. It doesn't mean being conservative. In the movie The Matrix, where it comes from, they realized they were living in a simulation. It was a created world.
Starting point is 02:04:01 Everything they saw was manufactured. It was generated. It was all lie. And the red pill was to realize this world is not what it seems. It's an illusion. Right. And the blue pill is to say, I don't care. I'm going to live in the illusion.
Starting point is 02:04:17 The illusion's more comfortable than the reality. I prefer, you know, there's a famous line, the guy that takes a blue pill says, well, steak still tastes like steak. Even though it's not real, still feels good. And so what the red pill means in politics is to put a very, at the most fundamental level, if you take the idea and it's, simplest form. It means things are not as they seem. The world is not what it seems to be. What it seems to be is, oh, Tim Poole, oh, I like that guy. I like what he says. You know, people watch the show, oh, I agree with that guy. That guy's making a lot of sense, you know, because you got some boomer out there, Gen Xer, and they watch that guy, and they're like,
Starting point is 02:04:56 that guy's, there's like this implicit identity where they say, that guy's like me. And who Who am I? I'm some guy who works some job. I'm out there in the world. I have my opinions. Tim Poole's like me. He's some guy in the world with opinions. He's on YouTube.
Starting point is 02:05:14 He's saying him. We think a lot alike. That's not really what's going on. Because you aren't meeting with Bebeenayahu and getting money from Russia. He is. Right. It's sort of like watching a football game and saying, I like watching football. You know, I like going to the games.
Starting point is 02:05:33 and eating popcorn. I like watching it on TV and wearing the jersey. The people that play the game are like me. It's like, no, they're not. They're playing the game. You're watching the game. And similarly, Tim Poole and Shapiro, they're playing the game. You're watching the game. It's different dynamic. But that's part of that it's built on that fundamental deception, which is, you know, these people that are in conservative media, they're just guys with opinions just like us, but they're not. You know, they're in this political world. They have to get paid.
Starting point is 02:06:05 How are they getting paid? They're getting, in many cases, by foreign governments. How are they staying on YouTube? How are they running in these circles? Tradeoffs, deals being made behind the scenes. That's all of them, you know? And I know enough of them to know that. Covert influence.
Starting point is 02:06:20 So that's the dirty secret. And when the red pill starts to come through, it's sort of like the simulation starts to crumble. It's like the Truman Show boat hits the painting. Right, right. That's a yay set. It's like my favorite expression. He says,
Starting point is 02:06:32 my Truman Show boat hit the painting. It's like, wait, Tim Poole was meeting with Netanyahu. He got money from Russia. Maybe we can't leave this town. Yeah. I heard of Daily Watt just struggling. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:48 Is that true? It is. Yeah. That's what they say. And it's because, you know, no one's buying in anymore, you know? People were buying in when they were the only game in town. but now that censorship is going away and you have Andrew Tate, you got Canna Soans, you got
Starting point is 02:07:05 Elijah Schaefer, you got Myron, you guys, now that censorship is going away and people are getting the truth, they're like, why do I need this propaganda? You don't need to listen to Shapiro say, here's why Israel's right. He's just lying. Everyone knows that. People don't, that was, that was a competitive, viable option when anyone that disagreed was banned on the internet. You know, people love Shapiro when if you were to the right of Shapiro, you weren't able to have a YouTube channel. But now that you can, people are like, I want to hear about conspiracy theories. I want to hear the whole truth. So I think that's a huge reason why they're going out of business. Like, they still have Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles. Do you think it's going to dissolve?
Starting point is 02:07:46 I don't know. I don't know enough about the dynamics there. I hope Matt Walsh quits. He's a Catholic. Right. Yeah. You know, you think that he would have some. Makes sense for him to quit. Yeah. I mean, what's keeping them there? I guess the money. Well, Brett Cooper, she left, they kept the channel. He would start all over again. You have to start all over again. Right. Yeah. I mean, it wouldn't be hard for him to do that. But all those years, all those videos, all that work went into it and they can just keep it and say, you're gone.
Starting point is 02:08:13 It's like, what a Jewish thing to do. It's insane. Yeah. They literally got him by the fucking nuts. Yeah. It's no different than the entertainment. entertainment industry. And that's what happened to Yay. Yay went against them. And then they literally froze his money at Apple, froze his money at Adidas, all the stuff that he thought was his.
Starting point is 02:08:38 It's actually theirs. That's what the contract says. So it's like that's how they centralized control. It's crazy. People, you know, once again, it's like people just don't know how it works behind the scenes. And that's how we have this, you know, everyone that's put in front of us is controlled. they're on strings, except for us. I'm glad you said that. Oh, man. Could it be positive? Hey, do you have any political aspirations, run for office, said it?
Starting point is 02:09:11 I don't know. I don't think I'm cut out. I have no impulse control. Like you guys. No. You try to say you're black? Yeah, exactly. I'm too black to run around from swinging on people and just saying the wrong thing.
Starting point is 02:09:24 Yeah. No, probably not. I don't think I could win. I'm too short. Everyone hates me. Oh, man. Hey, man. So where can people find you now? I'm on Rumble. I'm on Rumble, Twitter. That's it. You think someday you'll be able to, you know, have some of the things that natural, I mean, natural born citizens like me and everybody else have at their disposal, if they'll be afforded back to you? I hope so. I think it's changing.
Starting point is 02:09:56 Yeah. It seems like we're, you know, wokeism seems to be over. It is, totally is. Yeah. But I look back at like 2013, it feels like a different universe, you know? Yeah. You look back on those days and I grew up in those days and it's like everybody was so. It felt like wokeism.
Starting point is 02:10:14 I hate that expression, but is what it is. It felt like it was unstoppable. Like, that's how it would always be forever. It's just like more gay, more women, more, you know, whatever. Dude, before the truth. go, did you hear Kanye's new song? I did. Yeah. Of course he did.
Starting point is 02:10:30 Oh, yeah. As soon as he got the guy, man, listen to my new phone. Jesus. That's the album cover. Oh, yeah? Uh-huh. This dude is dumb.
Starting point is 02:10:46 Oh, man. Hey, man. Thanks to cover. So anybody can find your rumble? Yes. Okay. Rumble and X. That was a day.
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