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Got Nip four hairs back in the house.
Yeah.
What's up, brother?
How you doing?
Good.
How are you guys doing?
You still in Chicago?
I'm still in Chicago.
Hey, get the hell out of there.
You got crazy women knocking on your door?
Yeah, then somebody showed up in my house with a gun.
Thank God you're okay.
Yeah, thank you.
God is looking out for you and Trump.
Yes, yeah, seems so.
You was with Kanye.
Y'all still pretty close?
Yeah, yeah, we still talk.
Yo, you know, I'm here with my wife's in front.
I'm back.
plane. I'm thinking of myself, am I going to be in a swastika t-shirt and a clan robe? I'm like,
what's that going to do for my image? He could get away with it. He's black. If I'm in a swastika shirt,
I'm never going to live that down. I don't want to live around black people. I just don't. They
make me nervous. I got money now, right? So I want to live with white people.
Guess I'm safe. The problem is not black people's blackness. You know,
If you guys move next door, it wouldn't be a problem.
Hey, let me push back on it.
If I was you, I wouldn't trust me.
Yeah.
Good times, create weak men.
Weak men, create bad times.
Sort of like good crime laws.
Cray, good times.
Good times make people think the crime laws are racist.
And then, you know, the cycle repeats.
Here's the problem as a white person.
You can either be Daniel Penny or Austin Metcalf.
What's next?
A white woman's going to touch a black woman's hair and she's going to get stabbed in the face.
Don't touch my hair.
You can't touch my hair.
Your black voice is better than my black voice.
Everything you're saying, they're already thinking it.
You've just got the balls to say it.
I mean, the women's a huge part of it because, like you said, they think differently.
They're way more empathetic.
They're kind of just like suckers.
You know?
That one looks perfect.
Suckers.
If only men voted, every state goes red.
If only women voted, every state goes blue.
All you need to know.
When shit hits the fan?
What do all women do?
They're screaming.
Yeah, yeah, right.
They're like an alarm, you know?
That's like to get a male to pay attention.
Wow, man, you call women's suckers.
And you called them a long time.
Trump is a Zionist.
He got money from the Israel lobby to become president.
They set it up where now they're going to restart the war in Gaza.
That's the on-ramp to get the United States to bomb Iran.
Senegal.
Who's the thing they think they was referring to?
It's pretty obvious.
Got a new show for y'all.
Got a damn good show.
Got Nick Folls, back in the house.
Yeah.
What's up, brother?
How you doing?
How you guys doing?
How you guys doing?
Good.
Nice to see you again, man.
Yeah, likewise.
Good to see you.
Yeah, yeah.
You still in Chicago?
I'm still in Chicago, yeah.
Get the hell out of there.
You got crazy women knocking on your door?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Killers, yeah.
Well, it's ironic, the demographic, you know, in Chicago.
Oh, I'm getting crazy and Jewish woman, some young white guy.
Oh, she was Jewish?
Yeah, turned out to be Jewish after the fact, which is surprising.
How did they? I won't go down.
Well, you know, on the night of the election, I put out a tweet.
I said, your body, my choice, which is just flipping around the, you know, my body, my choice.
I put that out there.
And the irony is I didn't even vote for Trump.
Yeah.
I was telling people, no.
I was telling people not to vote.
But on the night of the election, we all having fun.
It was just good to see Trump win and Kamala Looz.
So I just put that out there to be funny.
And it blew up.
It got like 100 million views on Twitter.
People were talking about it on the news.
And then...
All because of that quote?
Yeah, just for the tweet.
It was...
What's that quote again?
Your body, my choice.
You see how they'll get triggered a woman, right?
Yeah, I could see.
Well, and the best part is I said...
Oh, here we got.
bodies. Guess what?
Guys win again.
Okay.
Men win again.
And yes, we control your bodies.
Hi, I'm your Republican congressman.
Hi, I'm your Republican congressman.
It's your body, my choice.
And men, women again, men win again.
There will never, ever be a female president.
Never.
You will never be a female president ever.
Glass ceiling.
Dude,
it's the ceiling made of fucking bricks.
You will never break it.
This stupid face keeps hitting the brick ceiling.
We will keep you down forever.
You will never control your own bodies.
Yeah, so they,
I mean,
they turn that into a sound on TikTok.
Women put that on TikTok and they were crying
while that was playing.
That was the audio.
So, you know, this thing blows up and it turns into an international incident practically.
And so then at the same time, that's going viral.
People started posting my address.
And then my address went viral.
That's crazy.
And so I had like probably the weekend after the election maybe 50 or 100 people show up at my house.
People throwing eggs in my front door, taking pictures, walking through my backyard.
Yeah, it was like, you know, it was unbelievable.
never saw anything like that. And then, you know, I don't want to talk too specifically about it because
I got charged for battery in connection to this, which is ongoing. But yeah, but this woman comes
in my house looking for trouble. And I'm not going to say anything else about that. Let's just say,
you know, maybe she found the trouble she was looking for. Found some good trouble, right?
But, yeah, and then it kept going. Then somebody showed up in my house a month later with a gun.
Some kid.
Yeah, yeah.
Some kids showed up.
And I was doing my show.
I was in the middle of my live stream.
I heard somebody screaming outside, which had happened already.
So I thought, oh, it's some nut job.
So I said, I'll finish my show quickly.
I'll see what's going on.
I'll take care of it.
Well, I finished my show.
My producer had called the cops.
And he shows me the security footage.
The guy had a gun.
He had a gun and a crossbow.
I said, oh, my gosh, you know, what's going on?
Is he still there?
Did they arrest him?
He goes, oh, he ran away.
I said, okay.
So I go upstairs to get dressed, get changed, whatever.
I hear gunshots outside.
Yeah, yeah.
So he had showed up with the gun.
There he is.
He showed up, that's a crossbow.
It's like an automatic crossbow with a magazine that he put on that sidewall.
That's a 22 pistol he has in his hand.
And so it had turned out.
He showed up with a gun.
He had committed triple homicide earlier in the day.
He killed three people in sub-examination.
Illinois, drove two hours up to my front door with the gun, with the crossbow, apparently to
try to assassinate me. Cops showed up. They chased him through the yard. He went into a neighbor's
house, broke in, killed their dogs, came back outside, shot at the cops, cop shot him in the head,
and killed him. Well, you don't have to worry about him anymore.
How did I not hear about that? I know. That's crazy, right?
They covered it up. You know, and I tweeted about it the next day. I said,
someone tried to kill me in my house last night.
And the media said it was an alleged assassination attempt.
That's the one I saw.
I'm like alleged.
He had a gun.
I actually saw a post and they said this was all staged.
Right.
Hit you with your case.
Yes.
And that's all I saw.
Yeah.
I didn't hear anything about this.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
That's the only one I saw.
That is crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's nuts.
Even, you know, this happened in my neighborhood, happened in Chicago.
And I know people that were home.
for Christmas break, that was a week before Christmas. They saw the story about the triple homicide
that the kid had committed. None of them had heard anything about me, any connection to me.
And it's not like it's about me necessarily, but it was like a major point is there was a huge
story in my city. People heard about it. But no one in the media said that he came and tried
to assassinate me as a political person. They just buried that part. That's crazy. Right.
Yeah. If he was like, if you were black and the people he killed were blacked, it would be everywhere.
Yes, right, right. Yeah. Wow, man. Thank God, you're okay.
Yeah, thank you. God is looking out for you and Trump.
Yes, yeah, seems so. A little too close for comfort there, but they're looking out for me.
Yeah, that's crazy. I don't know what the hell you're still doing in Chicago.
I know, yeah. I'm trying to get out of there. You grew up there, right?
I did. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I grew up in the suburbs, but it's all downhill, especially lately, you know.
these teen takeovers.
It's like these.
But, you know, unfortunately, it's happened all over the United States for some reason.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think it's this crime wave ever since George Floyd.
I think they change rules of engagement with the cops,
emboldened all the criminals.
And so, you know, in L.A., it's property crime.
L.A., San Francisco, it's a lot of, you know, they break into your car.
You just can't leave any of your belongings in a parked car.
They got Keith.
They stole stuff out of him.
Oh, really?
I got money now, right?
So I want to live with white people.
So we move in this white neighborhood.
Right?
I'm like, yes, I'm safe.
Right.
And then somebody breaks my car.
My wife has a bad habit of not locking the door because of where we live.
So there were a bunch of black kids door checking.
And they opened our car.
I had my checkbook.
And I was dumb on my part, but got all my personal information or whatever.
And we knew they were black because the ring cameras in the neighborhood.
And everybody said, yes, a bunch of black nasses
just running around.
That's what they said.
And then
Kevin said, hey, man, our business bank account
was in the car, right?
Because I just wrote a check for something, I forget.
And he's like, you need to report it
and order new checks.
I said, I get around to it.
About a week go by.
I totally forget about it.
And somebody wrote a check for, how much was it?
Five grand.
Was it 10 grand?
I think it's five grand.
It was five grand.
Yeah.
And the name on the check was John Smith.
Nice gone.
How does this go through?
Yeah.
It went through?
Yeah.
Wow.
It came out of my account,
so I had to file a claim or whatever.
And it was a nightmare following the claim because the chick was black and she was horrible.
She had this horrible attitude.
She's getting it from both ends.
I'm like, man, this is,
this guy Adams is right.
And I'm not even lied about that.
I had a horrible attitude.
Yeah.
I actually called back the next.
day and just make sure she did
everything and there was no notes in there.
So I think she knew who I was.
That's happened before.
They knew why I was. Oh, this is Keith Hodge.
He hates black people.
He hates himself.
Somebody stole your checkbook.
Right. So I think that's what it was about.
But I called back and they took care of it.
Hey, I was going to ask, I came across a video
you with Kanye. Y'all still pretty close?
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We still talk pretty
sporadically. Yeah.
So I've known it for a few years now.
Who starts the conversation?
This guy just call you up through a fucking one.
Hey, what are you doing?
Literally.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We back.
Yo, you know I'm here with my white supremacist's home white.
So he actually wears that.
Oh, yeah.
He's very proud of it.
He loves it.
Well, and I was over there and, you know, he's got the KKK robe also.
Is it the black one?
He's got three.
He's got a black one, a white one, and a red one.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
And he's proud of them.
They're leather.
They're very nice.
They're very like, yeah, because, you know, you'd think a lot of these, I think they're
better than the actual KKK uniform.
Right, right.
The actual KKK uniform looks like a sheet.
Yeah, these are like leather.
These are, that's like a custom job.
It's like the executioner.
So he went out and get a custom swanquin of his nickname.
Oh, it's like the Louisville.
baton of clansmen robes and the bejeweled custom swath. He was telling me, he said,
he's doing a project with the clan robes. He said, you know, I was going to have him wear
the swastika. He goes, but man, I paid a lot of money for this. He's like, I want to wear it.
I'm like, yeah, I can see why. It's a statement piece. But he's about it. He's more hardcore
than me. You know, I was going to go out there to L.A. and I'm on the plane. I'm thinking of myself,
am I going to be in a swastika t-shirt and a clan robe?
I'm like, what's that going to do for my image?
He could get away with it.
He's black.
If I'm in a swastika shirt, I'm never going to live that down.
Yeah, I got some images, some video of him walking around with a white t-shirt with a black swastika.
He's looking right at the paparazzi.
He's like standing out like this.
Like he's super bad.
Peacocking, yeah, with the swastika shirt.
Yeah.
He's funny, but...
How is he?
How is he?
People try to say he's great.
crazy and he's not all there and he's having an episode or something.
Look, that's the video right there.
Yeah.
He's good, you know.
I saw him last year and he wasn't looking so good.
I think he was having some health issues, but I saw him a few weeks ago.
He looked great, looked skinny.
And they're always making stuff up about him.
They say he's crazy, he's not stable.
Every time I've met him, he's on the ball.
He's lucid, extremely high energy.
This guy works.
And I, you know, I say this.
And my followers who may be more racist than me, they give me shit.
Because I go on my show and I'm like, I really do.
And I'm not just saying this.
I really do deeply admire him.
He's got this work ethic that's unbelievable, wakes up at the crack at dawn and works from 4 a.m.
until midnight.
Wow.
Never seen anything like it.
And he's doing music.
You know, he'll literally be chopping, beats himself.
He's got a, you know, record.
Box of Records, Producers, then I'll go and do the music video.
Then he'll go and take a look at the shirts, sweatshirts, the fashion stuff.
Then he'll go and do the political thing.
And it's all day.
It's all in the same room.
And he's just like a conductor, you know, like of a symphony.
Do one thing.
Then the next, then the next.
Traveling throughout the city, it's unbelievable.
So, I mean, he's really amazing.
That was in the studio where y'all was at?
Yes.
Some people, I think I've seen a video of it.
It's like huge.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like breathtaking.
Yeah, it's this huge warehouse.
He's got these big LED video walls.
And that in itself, if you know anything about the production,
it's super high-end stuff.
He's got the Matrix playing on one screen,
Star Wars on the other.
And then he's playing Last of Us in the middle.
Really?
Yes.
Wow.
Yeah.
He's a gamer.
Oh, he's a huge gamer.
Huge gamer, loves movies.
That's his thing.
I like to meet Kanye.
Yeah, I would too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's a pretty incredible guy at the next KKK rally, the cross burning.
I'll invite you guys.
This is in his studio?
Yeah.
Wow, so what does he keep the clan outfits?
That's the only thing he takes with him, you know?
He travels like, traveled around like a duffel bag full of clan robes and swastikas.
Wow. He's got to have, I know he's got to have security.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like he's like the president when he moves. It's nuts.
He didn't used to. You know, years ago when I was with him for the presidential campaign, he was going around.
He'd say, God's my security. You know, I don't need security. But now he's, he's got a pretty secure.
No, you need security.
Yeah, yes, exactly. You know, I mean, that's nice.
Jesus.
Yeah, right. Right.
So lately you've been going back and forth with, damn, I'm having a bad moment.
Jason Whitlock.
Yeah.
How did that all start on Twitter, right?
Yeah, well, it happened over this kid who was killed in Texas, this Austin Metcalf, who got stabbed in the chest.
Oh, okay.
And, you know, I went on my show.
Here's the thing.
When something like that happens, he's like interracial killings, the only thing you're allowed to say is wiping.
person is, well, if the shoe were on the other foot, there would be outrage. You know, that's the only
thing you're allowed to say. They say, if it was George Floyd, people would be marching, riding.
When a white kid is killed, no one does anything. And I said, you know, but that's really not
saying anything. You know, that's a sentiment which it really just says, well, the left is hypocritical.
There's a double standard on race. But it doesn't really express, in my opinion, what white people
are feeling. White people are feeling is, why are we putting up with this stuff? And it's like you said,
you move to a white neighborhood, you make money. We live in America. It's 21st century. We don't want to
deal with these problems. And it just so happens that it is these young black adolescents that's doing it
in Chicago and wherever. And so I went on my show after that killing and said, you know,
like we're just kind of done with that. We don't want to live near this. Because here's the problem
is a white person, you can either be Daniel Penny or Austin Metcalf. You can either be someone that
takes a stand and defends yourself, or you make a rash judgment, and you're either in jail or you're a
racist. If you defend yourself, you get charged with murder by a liberal DA, or if you're wrong,
then you're a white supremacist, racist, you're super judgmental, you're canceled. You can't just be
a white guy who made a mistake. Exactly. Exactly. And then on the other side, if you're not
racist enough or not careful enough. If you're Austin Metcalf, you make the mistake of confronting
the wrong black adolescent, you're dead. You forfeit your life. And if that's how it's going to be,
who wants to live in that neighborhood where you're walking down the street at night and you look
over your shoulder if you cross the street and it's a good black person, you're a racist. If you don't
cross the street and they're a predator, you're dead. It's no win situation, right? So a predator. A predator.
Well, you know, a predator opportunist.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, that's perfect adjective predator.
You know, because obviously not every black person's a predator.
Right, right.
But there are these opportunists that are, they're crawling the streets at night,
looking for people not paying attention, young girls, young men.
And so I said on my show, I said, white people, don't want to live near black people,
if that's what it's, yeah.
Oh, okay.
I don't want to live around black people.
black people. I just don't. It would be irresponsible if I had a wife and kids to live near black people.
It just would be. And that's not to say that every black person is violent. It's not to say that every
black person is the same way. But we watch the news. We read the papers. When you drive downtown
in Chicago, you know who you got to look out for and worry about when you're thinking about whether
you're going to get car jacked, when you're worried about catching a stray bullet, when you're
worried about who's going to pull up on the side of the road and literally shove a rifle in your
face and steal your iPhone or shoot you point blank execution style in Lincoln Park.
We know who's doing it.
I don't want to live near them.
I don't want to be near them.
They make me nervous.
That's a survival instinct.
And the way this story unfolded, it's sort of interesting.
apparently this white student this Austin Metcalf confronted a friend of the killer presumably black also
and said something like hey you're sitting in the wrong spot you're in my spot something like this
and that's when the black guy jumped in and stabbed him to death unfortunately we just don't know
when you're on the subway when you're driving in your car when you're in the city streets you don't
know whether the black person in proximity to you is one of the good ones or one of the ones
who is going to summon an unbelievable, I mean literally for people like us, an unthinkable
level of spontaneous brutality, senseless and merciless violence in an instant. We don't know.
There's ambiguity. You're sitting on a subway. You look across. You see someone acting strange or
aggressive. Is this someone who was going to pull out a knife and in two seconds slip my throat
and kill me? Or is this just someone who's having a bad day? We don't know. I'm not willing to
risk my life to find out. It's not worth it to me. I'm not willing to put myself in a position
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Because when I, what you was pretty much rolling, I mean, trying to explain to everybody,
you're talking about urban black neighborhoods.
I don't want to live in an urban black neighborhood.
Right.
I don't want to.
Black people that become rich and famous, they don't want to live there neither.
Yeah.
But it's a problem when you say it.
Yes.
Right.
Exactly.
Nobody wants to live in the hood.
Nobody.
And those things happen in the hood.
To black people all the time.
Poor people who live in the hood.
They don't want to live there, but they have no options.
They don't have no means to get out.
So they stuck.
I don't know.
I remember I was in the Marine Corps.
I lived in San Diego.
I was think I was like 1920, and I lived in a black neighborhood.
I came out because I would leave to go to work at like four in the morning.
There's a bullet hole in the side of my geo metro.
Yeah.
Had a lime green geometro.
That's how I learned how to drop a stick.
Yeah.
And had a bullet hole inside of it.
Yeah.
I get in the car, I turn around, I go up to the stop sign,
which is maybe about 100 feet away so I can get on the freeway.
There's a prostitute right there.
And she looked at me like this, and then she said,
I was like, she must have just got done sucking somebody off.
And I lived in black neighborhoods.
And I was like, when I was growing up, I said, man, when I get the money,
I'm going to live in the white neighborhoods.
Yeah, that's the thing.
Black people don't want to live in black neighborhoods.
But it's the only part of when white people.
say it, though. Right. Well, and
here's what I always say.
The problem is not
black people's blackness,
which is the issue.
You know, if you guys move next door, it wouldn't be a problem.
Because I know you guys are going to be gang-banging
or whatever.
Hey, let me push back on it. I wouldn't, if I was
you, I wouldn't trust me.
Some things you just can't
deny. I mean, we don't get that
gene.
Well, I just
saw you. I'm not honest. I wouldn't
trust that. Yeah. But the problem is that, unfortunately, a stereotype, which is based in reality,
is that when you live in a black neighborhood, you're going to get this set of problems. You're
going to get violence. You're going to get mayhem, chaos. And it's not even just that. It's just
rudeness, people being inconsiderate. And if people associate with black people with being friendly,
being kind, being peaceful, no one would have an issue. People say, oh, great, black people moving
in the neighborhood. This is awesome. Probably about he's going to go up. You know? That's not what's going to
happen. No. That's the issue. And so, you know, I said that. And Jason Whitlock, you know,
he's super Christian, as am I. And he said, well, you know, this is an attempt to incite racial
hatred between white and black people to divide up the races with this, you know, with this incendiary
rhetoric. And I said, look, here's the problem. You can reconcile white and black people with Christianity.
In my opinion, that happens second.
What has to happen first is law and order.
Unfortunately, you have this cycle in America where you have very good laws, safety, you know, you have police or active enforcing the law.
And then you get the activists that come in and say, oh, there's too many black people in Jews, too much police brutality.
So people say, all right, you know, we're going to ease up.
We're going to mass incarceration is a problem.
Police brutality is a problem.
We're going to let him go.
Then the violence gets out of control.
Then you get, you know, the crack epidemic.
Then you get, you know, the 80s, 90s.
People go, it's out of control.
We need the crime bill.
We need the cops back on the street.
We need stopping frisk.
So then it's good for, you know, 20 more years.
Some people say, police are racist.
We got to get rid of the cops.
I think that was a good lot of the pass.
It is.
It is.
100%.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, but this is the cycle.
It's like this amnesia where it's that, it's that classic meme.
You know, good times create weak men.
Weak men, create bad times.
Sort of like good, good.
crime laws create good times, good times make people think the crime laws are racist.
And then, you know, the cycle repeats.
So, you know, so what I'm saying is enforce the laws.
And by the way, the biggest beneficiary would be the black people themselves.
It's like you said, who's hurt by this?
Occasionally, occasionally it's white people.
But the vast majority of people that are killed are black people.
The people that live in poverty are the black people.
It's those neighborhoods that can't have a Walmart.
because of all the shoplifting.
So you enforce the laws.
Unfortunately, there's going to be disproportionate, you know, representation.
There's going to be more blacks in jail.
But you got to arrest every lawbreaker.
And then once you get the worst of the worst off the streets,
the worst predators, opportunists,
then you can reconcile the people of Christianity.
But, you know, if you want to evangelize to these people in Chicago,
I mean, be my guest.
But I don't think you're going to get through.
When you see these videos, unfortunately, a lot of them are just lost.
Yeah.
And, you know.
I mean, they made a whole show around that.
First 48?
That's a documentary of the cultural black folks.
Have you seen this?
No.
You haven't seen the first 48?
No.
Oh, that show made me race.
It's like the first 48 hours.
They just track the point where somebody's killed and the first 48 hours of the investigation.
Primarily, you see black people killing black people.
Kentucky.
But there are some white people.
Yeah, like one out of every 100.
Yeah, but it's predominant.
family just oh I mean of course killing each other of the most trivial things it's just it's shocking
yeah the reason why black people have uh have something against her message that you showed
it's because they don't believe that black people are dangerous more than white people they actually
think you are being racist by making those accusations that don't exist but they're a hundred percent
factually true that's why what you said does not bother me at all yeah yeah i know it's true yeah because
basically talking about n-hs.
I'm a black male.
He has a probable
and me being a black male.
We can't stay in this either.
I mean, Chris Rock had a famous goat.
Yeah.
And it was funny as hell when he said it, but
let's go to that tweet, man.
You made a great point when y'all was going back
before. Jason Whitlock said, every bit
as godless and stupid as your
critics say,
you're Ray Epps 2.0,
I can't say it, point in foolish belief
believers.
Shut, you fucking dumb.
I can see it.
I can see it.
I can see it.
Your every bit is godless and stupid as your critics say.
Your Ray Epps 2.0 pointing foolish believers into a building that will burn them down for eternity.
Many of the people captured by the wickedness of black culture can claim ignorance.
You know exactly what you're doing.
Demon.
Say, I don't think it's ignorance for the black community.
You can't teach a conscience.
You can't teach that.
The enemy is paying people on social.
paying people on social media to promote racial division and conflict.
The aftermath of Austin Metcalfe Camillo Anthony is a sciop.
I don't think that's a sci-op.
No, don't fall for it, stand on the word, rebuke any so-called believer, and not pointing to
Christ.
Don't you think in his message in a roundabout way, he's saying black people are incapable of
rational thought and white people are superior, so we're going to give them a pass.
Pretty much he's saying white people, black people are inferior to whites.
with that message, because I don't think they can claim ignorance.
Right.
Yeah.
Black people are not vegetables.
They know exactly what they're doing.
Yeah.
That's exactly right.
And that's sort of the issue is, you know, you have this new breed of conservatives where
they want to hide behind the cross.
They're pushing like a BLM, woke.
It's exactly like you're saying.
They used to call it the soft bigotry of low expectations, you know, reverse racism,
whatever.
And now you have conservatives with the exact same mentality, which fundamentally means black
Blacks have no accountability.
You know, like he said in the tweet, they can claim ignorance.
What does that mean?
It means they're not culpable.
You know, they're not responsible.
They have no agency.
We can't blame them.
The IQs are very low.
Right.
They can't help themselves.
When they rob somebody, they still call.
They're wired that way.
I don't know.
Hey, I think your response to him, I love your response, which you said.
So tired of him that black crime is caused by black cultural.
For some reason, rap music doesn't make white people steal cards and shoot people.
It only works on black people.
That was a great response.
Thanks.
Well, yeah, I mean, because you-
Look at re-judge the things I'm saying.
I keep saying about black people.
Man, it's our culture.
It's the music.
It's in the moods.
But that's just an excuse.
Yeah.
And he's coming from this point of view that you're teaching white people to be racist.
Everything you're saying, they're already thinking it.
You just got the balls to say it.
Right.
So you're not, it's white people know.
what's up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They do.
Yeah.
I knew what was up when I was like 12 years old.
Right.
So I'm going to play with Scott.
I'm not playing with fucking Tyrone over that.
I mean, the first gun that was ever put on me was at 12 years old and it was a black kid and we were on the basketball team together.
Wow.
Going into basketball practice.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
I still remember that, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and it's true.
That is, that's what I intend to do with the show is, I mean, I'm expressing my opinion,
but I'm also speaking for a lot of people that don't want to offend or they don't want to get canceled.
And unfortunately, as far as we've come, because people have woken up a lot on a lot of different issues,
people are still paralyzed out of fear of being called racist, saying the wrong thing, offending people.
And the reality is that I think that race, it's one of those things you're never going to fully bridge that divide.
You know, you have white people, you have black people.
They're different.
They identify differently.
And this idea that we're going to be so Christian, we're going to overcome that or so American,
I don't think it's going to happen.
And that doesn't mean we have to hate each other.
I think we could live in harmony.
And I think, you know, we could strive for understanding and empathy.
But, you know, the idea that the only reason we're set in conflict is because of racist, dividing us or the media or the culture.
It's just not true.
People are tribal.
It's who we are.
It's in our genetics.
And nothing's going to change that.
I think, I think, I think there's one.
Carmelo Anthony case, it really, you know, open, it should open a lot of people's eyes,
how trouble we can be. Because when Daniel Penny would happen with him on the subway with that
Michael Jackson person, a lot of white people came to his aid, a lot of people came to his aid
and donated money to him to help him in his defense, which I understand why. I don't think it was
a racist. I don't think then it was because they're a racist. But then you look at Carmelo
Anthony, where here's a black kid who obviously did something wrong. You should
They never had that knife, but you see a lot of black people defending him.
Not because he was right.
It's because they defend him because he's black.
Yep.
Almost half a million dollars.
Yeah, it's up to a half a million dollars.
Yeah, but if the shoe was on the other foot, the circumstances was the same.
Just the races were reversed.
White people would not embrace what happened.
Exactly.
That's the difference I want to point out when it comes to black and white.
Culturally, I mean, spiritually, I mean, you go on Facebook.
TikTok is black people, black pastors defending that kids' actions.
They're comparing Carmelo Anthony to Rosa Parks.
Yeah.
I mean, they're not even comparing apples to oranges.
They comparing apples with hairy nuts.
It's like low IQ, low capacity.
That's the only thing I can really call it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're trying to say self-defense.
Self-defense.
Right.
Like, Andy even brought up the accusation that if you tell somebody to leave,
that's bullying.
Right.
I was like, how did you reach that point when you consider that bullying?
Yeah.
You have to be mentally stupid.
Yes.
Well, it's like you said, it's just pure.
Cald-Germelo Anthony, right?
And the black reaction is what you expect.
But white people, obviously not all of you.
So let me just get that out the way.
But a bunch of all are just a bunch of races, bigoted crisis actor.
People really believe that that kid had the right to tell Carmelo.
to move. This kid wasn't working security. He wasn't given no responsibility. He wasn't the seat
manager. Like, if that kid would have disminded his own business, would he or would he not still be
alive? A lot of people were trying to make it a race issue and it's not, has nothing to do with that
right there. This was self-defense. That's crazy. This is all over TikTok. I see a lot of post on
Facebook. To myself self-defense. Yeah. From more demographic of people. Yeah, it's all black people.
Did he have any injuries?
Do you see his mugshot?
Clean face, nothing.
No scratches, no nothing.
No punches were thrown from what I heard so far.
Yeah, it's something wrong with the black community.
I was like, man, you can't be this dumb.
Man, if that was self-defense, the murder rates would go up.
You could kill somebody for anything.
Yeah, right?
What horrible precedent.
Presidents that were set.
Okay, what?
Do something I kill you.
Or do something.
Get out, get out. Get out.
Stab me, you stag me.
I don't have it in me.
That's why I didn't respond.
I guess that's my white side talking to me, but that's crazy, man.
It's just that whole case that's like, man, I just lose all hope.
Especially when it comes to the black community because, like, why would y'all even put
your brand behind defending a kid who is obviously, obviously is wrong.
Yeah.
Well, it's based tribalism.
You know, it's like you said, they're sticking with this guy because he's black.
And I think what is barely concealed is a contempt for white people, which is, you know, and it's like a racial pride thing.
When they say Rosa Parks, they say, oh, the era of white people telling black people, you're in the wrong seat is over.
You know, what's next?
A white woman's going to touch a black woman's hair and she's going to get stabbed in the face.
Shot in the chest.
Don't touch my hair.
You can't talk to my hair.
Your black voice is better than my black voice.
So I practice him.
On my mama, I feel you.
Oh, my mama.
Yeah.
But Jason went like,
politically, I align with him
a lot. So I don't know.
I guess I think he's
he's showing
way too much empathy for the black community
because he is black.
and I've been through that
and I was like, you know what, I'm done with that.
I'm just going to stand for what's right
and what's right, that's what I'm a stand on.
Yeah, yeah.
And I like him. He's a good guy.
He's very positive towards him.
In my, because initially I disagreed with him.
I was very positive.
I said, you know, I respect him a lot.
He's Christian.
I agree.
Like you said, I agree with him so much.
And then he just had this nasty,
calling me a stupid demon,
saying I'm sending people to hell.
So uncalled for.
But that is another stereotype is this like crybaby thing that black people do.
It's like ethnic narcissism.
And it's like you said, it's a bit of a blind spot where, you know, a black conservative can be right on 99% of thing.
But when it comes to race, they want to take their bonga home.
When it comes to race, they want to be a crybaby, play the victim.
And I think that's all it is a blind spot.
A lot of white people have it too.
And not even to be that guy.
But in fairness, there's an equal amount of people that I know.
white nationalist types, very proud. They'll be the first ones to blast black people and their
behaviors. You talk about some of the behaviors of lower class white people. They say, oh, you're against
white people. You're against your own kind. Let's just, let's be honest, you know. Let's just be
honest about who we are, who the other is. So that's what I'm about. You've got to be honest.
I think of what happened with Carmelo, Anthony, I can speak from experience. Growing up as kids,
we were, we just had this natural hostility towards white people because of the past and what
black people have been through.
What our parents been through.
And what I tell us every day.
Stand up for yourself.
Don't let no white people push you around.
So I think what happened was he was sitting there.
I'm just speculating.
And then some white kid tells him to get up and move.
And it's just, that's what caused this whole issue.
Overreaction.
It was race.
I think it was race.
Yeah.
If they're both black or both white, this doesn't happen.
Right.
I guarantee it.
Totally.
Just because he's black and we come up and we're raised with this natural hostility towards white people, that's why that happened.
Yeah.
That's why it happened.
Yeah, I don't know why.
He went to a rival school.
I don't know what the area is like, but he's walking around with a knife.
I never did that when I was in school.
Frisco, I think it's pretty rough.
Yeah.
I may be wrong on that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I think you're right.
It's a pride thing, you know, because you could totally imagine how that went down.
The guy was like a white football chat.
You know, handsome guy comes up and says,
Hey, pal, you're in the wrong area, you know,
or puts his hands on something like that.
I'm sure some black kids saying,
I'm not taking shit from this white guy.
And, you know,
I don't know that he intended to kill him necessarily.
I think you did.
Why else would you stick a knife in your chest?
That was nuts.
Have you read the police report?
Yeah, I did.
They never recovered the weapon, right?
I don't think so, no.
Yeah, but it's this impulse thing.
That's the problem is he's,
these impulsive behaviors where, you know, I'm sure in the moment, but when I say, obviously,
if you stab somebody, it's a lethal weapon. You can't say I didn't know it could kill somebody,
but I'm sure in the moment that split second, he did the first thing, and now his life is ruined.
I mean, deservedly so, obviously, but that is the issue. And I think that is the genetic aspect
that people don't talk about. I think that I don't think anybody would disagree. Black people or
white people who has a greater propensity for violence. I think on a genetic basis is black people.
In the same way that between Asians and white people who has a greater propensity for violence,
I think definitely white people, you know, and that's just another one of those differences.
People attribute it to culture. I attribute it to genetics. It's one among others.
Asians, who has to hire our cues as Asian people? Then it's like white people. Then I guess it's
everybody else and then black people did last. I mean, and that's a fact, correct? Yeah.
From what I've read up on it, like black people for whatever reason.
And I think when you put anybody in a situation and they have a low capacity to grasp what's going on, that's who's going to commit the most murders.
Regardless if they're white, whatever.
I just think there's a, I don't know, I hate to say it, but there's, um, don't say it.
I know what you're going to say.
Well, just what I'll say.
Low IQ, you can find it in all people.
Right.
I just think it's more prevalent in the black community.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think so, too.
It would explain the number of black people in prison.
And IQ scores back me up on that.
It firms everything I just said.
If you look at IQ scores, it predominantly takes who's going to be more successful.
I don't know what's going on here.
It's like, this is all over social media, especially with, like, black women.
I don't get that.
The first thing he'd go for is that we.
Yeah, that's, that's just, that's low IQ right now.
Oh, yeah.
Why would you do that, man?
That's, hey, Joe, I don't want to look at this.
Yeah.
You make you just like that?
Look at this.
Joe swears up and down.
I like black women at big.
Oh, man.
Hey, let me ask you this.
Back to, um, uh, Whitlock's point.
Do you think the record labels and rap music has some part of the blame when it comes to the black community?
Certainly.
Certainly.
I mean, it's certainly not helping.
And I do think it exacerbates it because that's something my grandma used to say.
I've been in Chicago for generations.
My family's been there.
And, you know, my ancestors were Italian immigrants, Italian, Irish, Mexican immigrants a hundred years ago.
And so my grandma grew up in the projects with many black people.
And, you know, she always used to say that actually, you know, she would look across the window in her project department or whatever.
And she saw a black family across the way that was more functional than her own family.
She said they would hold hands to say grace before they ate.
And her household was up for grabs.
She had must made her feel really bad.
I'm sure, yeah.
Psychologically, right?
But, you know, by the same token, she encountered a lot of the same problems.
you see today, a lot of the same violence.
You know, she would get robbed or stuck up by black people in the city.
But everybody recognizes anybody who lives with black people in the cities will tell you,
there is a generational difference that the older black people, in many cases it couldn't even read.
You know, my grandma had a school.
They taught cops how to shoot their guns.
It was a security school.
And they would license security guards, cops, do firearms training.
and they would train up.
Black people sometimes couldn't read.
You know, they were from the Jim Crow era from the South.
Right.
But she said they were very honest, very decent, very respectful, polite.
So culture makes a huge difference.
I don't think it's everything.
It's certainly not nothing.
And anyone that lived, you know, anyone that had that experience living in a city with black people through the generations,
we'll tell you the exact same thing.
There's certainly a generational component, but I don't think that explains all of it.
Yeah. Like all my aunts and uncles and my family, there wasn't a bunch of miscreants.
It was like polite. They always wore suits. Yeah, they always went to church on Sunday.
Right. I remember growing up. That's an image. That's what black people used to dress.
Yeah. I mean, that was the common thing to do. Yeah. And now, you know, liberals get hold of black people and just turn into progressives. And now this is what you got.
Yeah. I got a question. Do you,
think if, just a
hypothetical, what would
solve a majority of
America's problems? Say you
as president. Let's just sit them up.
No.
It's a setup job.
I did not want to
sit you up. I feel guilty.
This dude is wearing a wire.
What do you think
would solve a majority of America's problems?
I think
personally for your answer, I think we listen
to women too much. Oh, yeah.
I think a
A big problem America has right now is we have two many women in power and look what happened
when we got too many women in power. We got men in women's bathrooms and in that sports. It's just
women can't even think different. It's so different than a man. That's a huge part of that. I mean,
you can start with women. You can go to the media. You can go to immigration. I mean, the problem is
we can all recognize the country's been getting worse. A lot of things, there was seismic changes
is 100 years ago. Technology, suffrage, you know, more people voting, more people participating.
A lot of immigrants from non-white countries coming here, things are getting worse, and we're just
doing the same things. It's like, you don't think maybe we put a pause on some of the things
that have changed that might have led to some of these things. But, I mean, the women's a huge
part of it, because, like you said, they think differently. They're way more empathetic, way more,
and they're kind of just like suckers, you know? Like men.
That was perfect
They're suckers
Because they're not necessarily dumb
Although many of them are
But you know
Because some of them can be very smart
But they just don't have this
Quality that men have
Where men will say nah
That's bullshit
You know you're lying
Women don't have that
Women will listen to any story
Any sob story
And go all you know
Filled with empathy and emotion
And when you're
you look at who they vote for. This is like a red pill for me when I was in high school.
They said, how do we, I said, if you look at the election results, presidential election results,
separated out by men and women. If only men voted, every state goes red. If only women voted,
every state goes blue. Right. All you need to know. That's all you need to know.
That's powerful. And even today, the approval ratings with Trump, men overwhelmingly positive,
women overwhelmingly negative. And we know Trump is right.
Right. We know the Democrats are wrong, you know, and these are like not difficult issues. Should a country have a border? Can a country run an infinite deficit? Can we have entitlements? You're paying people not to work. Like, no, we can't do any of these things. But women, they think that we can. And that's a huge source of the issue, certainly. The diversity is a big part of it. The anti-racism. And not for nothing, but those pictures you show, that was a time when the society was immensely racist. Seems like it was better for
both sides actually. Right. And that's not to say important distinction. It's not to say we're,
you know, because people like to say, make America great again. What, you mean slavery and lynching and,
you know, racial hatred? It's like, no, obviously, I'm not a sick person. I'm not a cruel person.
I don't want to see people get murdered for their race or their ethnicity. But, you know,
what did change, now that people have to walk on eggshells, now that people are afraid to enforce
the laws or tell the truth, now there's.
no rules. Now there's no accountability. You could say that maybe in the old days there was an
excess of justice and it fell into cruelty. It fell into, you know, brutality. Now we have an
excess of mercy. And you could see which one is worse. Certainly the excess of mercy and
forgiveness, you get a lawless society. And I would rather be on the other end of a brutal cop than a
brutal thug. And it's sort of an interesting distinction, right? Because you hear police brutality,
police brutality. Yeah, police can be brutal, certainly. I wouldn't want to be on the other end of
that either. But would you rather be on the other end of the law that's brutal or these young
adolescent black men that are brutal that will execute you for not even having to do with the
theft? You know, I referenced a specific case. I said, who's executing people in Lincoln Park?
There's a case where they mugged a guy in Lincoln Park, which is a nice white neighborhood,
stole his iPhone, demanded the password. And then they shot the guy, point.
blank execution style. Now, why do you kill this guy? You got his iPhone. You got the password. You
got what you're looking for. Why then do you kill this guy? Shoot him in a defenseless person.
That is far worse than any brutality from the police, you know, or from the state. Yet no one
wants to talk about that brutality. So that's kind of how I see it.
I never understood liberals when it came to the death penalty. They don't, like, a person could do
the most heinous crime imaginable. And they would give the person life. And then that person
goes to prison and he ends up killing several other people.
Right.
It's like why continue to protect his life when he took so many other people's lives?
It should be eye for an hour.
When it comes to our justice system, when it comes to murder, first degree, premeditated,
you should be put to death.
You know about this guy?
He's in jail.
I think it was in California.
He killed like four people doing a robbery in a jewelry store.
So he's got life.
There's a white dude, right?
It's a black guy.
Oh, okay.
You wish.
No.
Wouldn't that be nice
Well, a white criminal
Rob to Grosal, really?
Right, and so it's a black guy
And his wife is giving him conjugal visits
Oh, okay
Why is he even allowed to do that?
But he ends up killing his wife
Wow
Yeah
I was like, this doesn't make any sense
Yeah
Why does he get conge?
Why does he get sex visits?
Yeah. And then she pisses them off and he kills her.
Yeah.
But your point about women, I think that's what's hurting our Supreme Court.
Like Amy Coney Barrett, it's like she doesn't vote conservative.
She's like progressive, just like the other women.
You asked a great question.
Would you rather have an all-male conservative Supreme Court or all-womened conservative?
Right.
And men overwomen, everybody overwhelmingly, yeah, it should be all men.
Well, except for the women.
Yeah.
It was like 50-50.
But the dude's like, yeah, I'll take that.
I'll take 12 Clarence Thomas's before I take a freaking woman.
You know?
Right, right.
It's just women.
They think so different.
That's why this whole transgender and bathrooms and sports, that's why it's went so far.
It's not because of men.
It's because women are allowing this.
Yeah.
And if they can't protect themselves, why the hell should they be voting?
Yeah.
It's true.
I mean, and that is the great lie of modern society is that women are independent.
By definition, they're not independent.
You know, independent means you're free from dependency.
Well, women are dependent on men for everything.
Construction, police, government, military.
A woman can't walk the streets at night independently.
Because if any man, even a weak man, confronts her, she's toast.
She's done.
Who does she call the protector?
Another man.
If she's in a burning building, who's going to come and rescue her?
A man.
You know, they're completely biologically dependent on us.
Have you noticed, like, when shit hits the fan, what do all women do?
They start screaming.
Yeah, yeah, right.
It's like every time I watch this one TikTok video, this little coyote came out, right?
It was a coyote that came out of nowhere.
Her little daughter was walking in, and the coyote grabs us and starts dragging it.
She's like, oh, she didn't like screaming, looking at the cataly and drag her daughter.
And I was like, do something, you stupid.
She just went there screaming and her husband comes out.
Yeah. Chases the calorie, coyote.
Yeah, and grabs the daughter. Yeah. She could very easily do that.
They're like an alarm, you know, that's like to get a male to pay attention.
Like a sire.
Yeah. It's the world's first alarm system, you know, because that's all they could do.
Wow, you call women suckers.
You call them a alarm spot.
I mean, women are just so, you're just so, you call them,
women are just so different than men.
Well, we're the superior,
we're the superior gender.
And they're trying to make this claim that we're equals,
we're not.
You know, every time I look at a new movie,
a new show, they got some strong woman
beating the shit out of the news.
That would never happen.
You beat up those three guys.
It's not even believable anymore.
Yeah, it's jumping the shark.
Yeah, I was watching the show.
I can't remember this.
Show's name.
I want to gauge you a show, strong.
Yeah.
And the girl that's lesbian, she beat the hell out this big muscular guy.
It's about a...
The last of us.
Yes.
You saw that.
That's made by a guy from Tel Aviv, Neil Druckman.
He's from Tel Aviv.
Really?
Yeah.
Well, that explains a lot.
This white kid's kissing.
It's totally hot, smoky little Mexican girl.
Yeah.
Oh, she's fucking...
Right?
And then she beats up something to do later.
I'm like, man, this is so...
Yeah.
Stupid.
Yeah.
It's not even real.
I just want to...
Have you seen that movie, Minecraft?
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Did you notice anything weird about that movie?
The black woman in it? Or?
Well, that was weird, but not that. It's something else weird.
What's that? What's the handsome guy's name?
Yeah, they had his fingernails painting and he's acting real feminine.
He's got a pink jacket. He's got his hair done like he's back in the 80s.
They got him playing like he's real feminine.
Feminine? Yeah.
I don't know. I think that was just like an 80s because you know what it is?
The director is like a,
a Gen Xer.
Oh, really?
That's like, dude,
every Gen X movie,
it's like a James Gunn thing.
They just have this hard on
for the 80s.
It's like every movie
is just like 80s nostalgia.
You had an 80s muscle car.
Yeah.
He had the jacket with the,
I forget,
some kind of...
Yeah, the 80s were pretty gay.
Man, that was like...
Remember, uh,
millie vanilly?
Mm-hmm.
Can you pull them up?
It's the couple black guys
who were lip-sinking
and they got caught doing it.
But, uh,
they were like,
trans. But they wasn't
trans. How old are you? I'm 26.
Man, you're young. He's a baby.
We just turned 50. We're twice right.
Damn.
This was, these are two dudes.
Wow.
And they used to tease us and cause me. The black kids
used to bully and said, man, he was millie vanilla vanilla.
Like that one dude's got like green eyes or something.
But, uh, so they
would call us that, but that's, like,
the 80s were so gay. I used to love
listen to their music. Yeah.
Do you have that, can you put up that video where they're dancing on stage?
They're dressed in white and they look like a couple fattes up there.
Hey, what's wrong?
You're going to cut this shit out, right?
Then, like, it's when they called them lip-syncing the record player scratched or something.
They're dressed in white.
Type it when Millie Vanilly got caught.
You should come up.
Why the hell are we talking about Millie Vanilly?
No, no, he was talking about how the 80s, everything like in the 80s.
He's pretty like feminine.
I'm over it, fuck it.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, all those video game movies,
because I was thinking about this,
Minecraft, Ready Player One, Tron,
these are all like video game adaptations,
and they all have like a subplot,
which is just like 80s nostalgia.
It's these like Gen X nerds that have a hard on
for like 80s video games,
80s music, and I agree it is super gay.
Hey, look you back.
Looking back on that movie, yeah, she was the only black person.
Yeah.
Well, and there's like this clip in the trailer where she's like, what the hell?
It's like, bra.
She's the token black man.
Minecraft.
Come on.
I didn't see the movie for the other time.
You're making me want to see it now.
My wife took me.
We went over the weekend.
And I don't like Jack Black.
And that dude is very little.
I was like, oh, my God, these two.
dudes in it and I'm
support this
but it was actually
a very good movie
it was very good
and I think it's over
500 million
yeah it's huge
yeah
well it's Minecraft
you can't mess that up
yeah
well I guess you can
if you miss that movie's very funny
really
that dude Jason Memorial
he had some jokes
and out
he will say something
in Spanish
but it totally meant
something else
it was real funny
oh it was really good
actually I was
I was like
y'all
they still suck
politically, but that was a good movie.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was pretty fun.
Yeah.
So you checked it out?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I saw it twice.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
I loved it.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know.
I'm going to watch it now.
You got it.
I don't know if you get it, though.
I mean, you guys play Minecraft, do you gamers?
No, my kids are into it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I watch my kids play, so I get it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
Zoomers have a deep appreciation for it,
because, I mean, we grew up with that game.
The game's 15 years.
old. So it's like you're a Miss Pac-Man, huh? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because Miss Pac-Man was,
you're a huge fuss. I still love it. Yeah, I know. Yeah. So you're 25 now.
Man, you young, dude. I'm telling you, thanks.
Like, 36. No, no, 36 is like the preface. Yeah, but once you hit 36 after that,
everything's like downhill. Not really. Well, kind of. Well, 40.
Yeah.
You're 50 you guys are?
Yeah, we turned 50.
Wow, you don't look 50.
We're going to be 51 this year.
Yeah.
Wow.
You know what RFK Jr. told me?
What?
He said, he told me, he said, wow, you're 50?
He said, in the next 25 years, if you live that long, it's going to be the worst years of your life.
Nice.
So he told me, you better get your ass in the gym every day.
Yeah, every day, yeah.
And watch what you eat.
Yeah, I believe that.
I was like, gee, thanks.
Yeah, people are calling me unk, so that's good to hear.
Oh, yeah.
They look young, yeah?
Yeah, it's like a black vernacular, I think.
What's up, Unck?
Yeah, I'm an old head now, an old head, aunt.
Yeah, but I'm starting to notice a lot of your videos now, like on Instagram, YouTube.
They're everywhere.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So has a band been lifted on having your content or talking about your content?
Yeah, it changed.
It noticeably, it was like overnight.
It changed.
Well, when Trump got elected?
Yeah, literally.
Really?
Yeah, and I'm not sure what exactly took place, but for years, anyone would post my show.
show, they'd immediately get banned. Not only would the content get taken down, their account would
get terminated. And then we started to notice this around December of 2024, January this year.
People were posting them and they were staying up and getting a really good viewership,
getting really good views. And we said, something changed. We said, let's just try it.
So, you know, our team made some accounts and we noticed other people were posting the clips,
and they're just doing crazy views. They're just blowing up. And I think what happened is that, you
When you look at the censorship regime, it's sort of crescendoed. It hit its peak in like 2021,
22. Because in 2015, no one was banned. You know, back in 2015, it was like unheard of. The first few
people like Andrew Anglin, Chuck Johnson got banned on Twitter. It was unheard of, though,
that people are getting censored in the old days. Then after Trump got elected the first time,
it just went into overdrive. Banwaves. The rules were changing every week, getting more broad.
Then it got to the point where they said, if you disagree about Ukraine, BLM, the election, the vaccine, you're gone.
It was just out of control.
Trump himself got banned.
And then there were like two big developments.
Trump getting banned, catalyzed both of them.
You had Elon acquired Twitter and made a free speech.
And then TikTok blew up.
TikTok was the fastest growing platform.
It was the fastest platform to get a billion active users.
Totally surpassed Instagram, Facebook.
not Facebook, but Instagram.
And TikTok was owned by Bight Dance, which is in China.
So they didn't have the same restrictions.
TikTok blows up in 21, 22.
That allows the rise of Andrew Tate.
Andrew Tate's the most famous guy in the world in 22, thanks basically to TikTok.
And so between TikTok blowing up, Elon's acquisition of X, you basically have the two most
competitive, fastest growing platforms are free speech haven.
And I think then Trump's election.
the second time, between that development and the election, it forced these other companies
to kind of get in line.
They said, if we want to compete, you know, Zuckerberg said, we have to relax the policies.
Same thing with YouTube.
Same thing with Twitch.
You know, Twitch let Aiden Ross back on.
They're starting to relax their policies.
And I think that's partially out of competitiveness with the other platforms, but also I think
they're afraid of they know that when Trump gets in, there's a chance he might bring down regulatory
pressure on that.
because they censor conservatives.
That was a relationship in the first term.
People don't know this, but Zuckerberg was tight with Trump in the first Trump administration.
That's why Facebook never got regulated, because Zuckerberg will call up the White House and say,
oh, we're going to work with you on censorship, we're going to work with you on this,
and that gave them some lenience with the FTC, with the, what do you call it, the regulation of the, I forget the other, the FCC and one,
Yeah, FTC and FCC. Both of them gave them some leniency because of that.
So I don't know. I guess we'll just have to see if it sticks.
So you think Zuckerberg is playing politics, whoever's in office?
100%.
100%. At least that's partially. I think part of it's competitive and the other part is they're playing politics.
They don't want to get the banhammer from the government.
Have you been able to monetize yourself? No.
No. Do you think they ever lift that ban? Did they have on you currently?
No. I'm banned on PayPal, Stripe, ban.
banned from every payment processor, every bank. You know, I sell these hats. I have these America
First. Hats are like Trump's hats. And we were working with like a free speech payment processor.
They're like made for canceled people like me. They were working with a free speech bank that was
made for people like me. And we said, we're going to sell hats. This is who we are. This is,
you know, and they knew who I was. They knew we're going to do. They said, yeah, no problem. You should be
good to go. We put the hats for sale. We make like $50,000 in the first night. They hit us up the next day.
They say, we're freezing all the payments. We have to review it. Week later, they come back and say,
we can't do business with you. We're refunding every single transaction. That is nuts.
Free speech bank, free speech processor. No luck. This is what happens. And this was recently, this was like in
October. Yeah. So, yeah, no leniency with the banks. I don't know what's going on with that.
legal request do you have? None. None, because it's private. It's private sector. So everybody,
you know, that was my first thought is how could this be legal? How is that even constitutional?
You know, that you could be deprived of such an essential service like that. But what they do is basically
Visa and MasterCard operate like a cartel. They control all the credit card processing. And for that reason,
they influence the banks. So when you process a credit card, you're dealing with Visa and MasterCard,
the bank and the processor.
And those are three layers where they can mess with you.
So in many cases, it's the processor, like a PayPal, a stripe.
The processor says you're too conservative, your band.
Sometimes it's the bank that underwrites the processor.
And they say you're too conservative or it's reputational risk.
You're banned.
Even if you find the right processor and the right bank,
Visa and MasterCard, because they're a cartel,
they still have final veto power because they control all the processing.
they get to tell the banks we don't like this guy.
So even if you have a good bank,
it a good processor,
ultimately they have the final say.
So I'm forced to deal with either e-check,
in some cases,
ACH or cryptocurrency.
That's it.
That's all I could do.
Wow, that is nuts, dude.
People can't believe it when I tell them that
because it's so, you know,
you think it's basic.
When you find out that when this happened to you,
what reason did they give you?
They don't give you a reason.
Jeez.
Yeah.
That's the worst part.
Because it'd be one thing if they sent you a letter and they said, you know, you said this, you did that.
Here's our terms of service that you violated because then you could contest it.
Right.
But they don't have to give you a reason.
So I was on the no-fly list.
Same deal.
They don't even tell you you're on that.
You know, it's confidential law enforcement information.
So the only way you find out is they just deny you boarding.
And same thing with the banks.
They just send you a letter.
We're done doing business with you.
It's the opaqueness, which is the worst part.
Andrew Tate was on a show. He said, in Romania, you know exactly what the laws are. He said, but when you come to America, you don't know what the laws are.
Right. That's scary. Yeah, that's how they get you, you know? That's a, it's become so politicized. They will look at you. And because the federal law is so complex and vast and convoluted, if they want you, they can get you on something, whether it's taxes, whether it's for some people's a sex thing, like with Andrew Tate, it's like, well, you.
You transported a woman from one country to another.
That's sex trafficking.
Or it's a weapons thing sometimes.
You know, I got a buddy.
He knew a girl who got assaulted by a guy.
This was in Europe.
He gave her pepper spray.
Say, here, protect yourself.
He got arrested for light arms trafficking.
Trafficked a light weapon.
That's in the UK?
It was in, I don't want to say, I don't want to docks him, but continental Europe.
Yeah.
So that's how they get you.
You know, another guy.
A guy just happened.
It's all over the place.
This guy said, told a guy that speak English in the United Kingdom.
Yeah.
And the cop told him and said, hey, that's hate speech.
White people are destroying themselves.
Now you see, while we form this country.
Mm-hmm.
They left Europe.
These people are psychos.
A bunch of progressives.
Yeah.
And they started.
Now it's been in, it's metastasized.
It's came back over here.
And that's in our government in our country.
Yeah.
Like the, when I mention the-
And the carrier is women.
Right.
When I mentioned the ideology, progressiveism, what's the first thing that pops in your head?
Oh, AOC, progressive left.
Yeah.
She's doing a great job in destroying her party.
I think she's going to run.
I think so?
Yeah, I think, you know, people are talking about her getting like a leadership position in Congress.
I think she's too radical, though.
I don't think so.
That's that party now, though.
I don't think the Democrats.
I don't think of a Democrat.
liberal could win a nomination for presidency to run it against Republicans.
I don't think a liberal would pass it.
I think they're progressive as hell now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like if a guy, like Gavin Newsom, I think he's a testament to that.
He's out here saying men don't belong in women's sports, and the left is just annihilated him.
And now he's dead to them.
Look what did it into Ben Shapiro.
What's his name?
The guy up in Pennsylvania, the, he burned his house.
The governor.
Yeah, Governor Shapiro, yes.
Yeah, they burned his house down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I think it was like a Jewish thing.
It was on Passover.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But probably it was like...
It's definitely a Jew thing.
Yeah.
Well, they don't like him because he's a Jewish Zionist.
And you're right.
They have these, like, radical left-wing guys that are super pro-Palestinists.
One of the good things about the other side.
You know what?
I want to ask you about this.
What's that guy, they said he could be deported?
I can't even pronounce his name.
Oh, from Columbia?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, he's a, I think he's, is he Muslim?
Mahmood Halil, yeah.
Yeah, they said they're going to, they can, a judge's rule that they can deport him.
But all he did was really protest for Palestinians, right?
Mm-hmm.
Did he do anything like?
No, no crime.
Yeah, so the State Department has deported or given a notice to 300 students that are here legally.
They're not illegal immigrants.
They have a visa.
In some cases, they're like this guy, Haleel, he was married to a U.S. citizen.
Wow.
So he's a legal resident of the United States, and they deported him because he had the wrong opinion.
And the judge upheld that.
So they imprisoned him in Louisiana, and then they're deporting him to the Middle East.
Because he criticized Israel.
That's crazy.
Yeah, that's your First Amendment.
Yeah, Secretary of State and our president, they're all for it.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
Yeah.
That's what I'm just most offended by.
I mean, the other things Trump doing, I think is great, but I was like, man, I think
he's simping for the Jews on this.
Oh, yeah.
How many things.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's crazy, man.
That's scary.
When you hear legally, you're married to a United States citizen, you say one thing about
Israel, and they revoke your right to be here?
This is the United States of Israel.
A lot of people don't realize that.
They have so much influence over our government.
We're having a free speech absolutism, right?
Yeah.
I mean, we're supposed to be the party of free speech.
They're like, yeah, get them out.
Yeah.
Yeah, just, I do not understand why Republicans and conservatives do that.
Fox News.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We have boomers that watch us, and they're big, I mean, I'm not a, I'm against Zionist, right?
That's who I'm against.
I'm not against Jews.
I'm against Zionism, right?
But when you look at these boomers, they really support Israel, and they always say they're
they're our biggest ally
you know and it's like
and they get that because
I've never heard Fox News say
one bad or criticize Israel at all
whenever they talk about Palestine
and Palestinians
it's always terrorist
yeah they're all terrorists
and I'm noticing a lot of conservatives
here lately going in on
Muslims and I know they're getting paid
yep
they got to be getting paid
yeah and then I see how conservatives
meeting up with Netanyahu.
And then I see all these new posts about Muslims.
I like, the way Muslims can fix this is just changing the name.
Just like like a Jew.
Yeah.
You'll never know.
No joke, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't like that.
Yeah, me neither.
Well, and here's the thing about Muslims, you know, their beliefs are actually closer to Christians
than Jews are.
They're very conservative.
They love Jesus.
Jews don't love Jesus.
Yeah.
Jews put him up there on the cross to begin with.
They got no love for him.
And, you know...
It's almost like we've been brainwashed by Fox News, Fox News and Israel.
It's pretty much Fox News.
Yeah.
Well, because they control your information diet.
If you're a conservative, you're watching Fox News, Prager, Daily Wire, Blaze.
Those are all controlled by Zionists.
You know, Rupert Murdoch is a close personal friend of Netanyahu.
Donated in Netanyahu's campaign for Prime Minister.
Netanyahu visits, when he visits the United Kingdom, he uses Rupert Murdoch's apartment.
He stays there.
Like, that's who runs Fox.
And then, so you wonder, you know, why don't they say anything negative?
Well, that's who runs it.
And, you know, a lot of them are being paid, but it's also this, like, invisible hand of censorship,
which is when I got started in the conservative space, when I was 18 years old, when I was in college,
they put me on the pipeline to become an influencer, personality, whatever.
And so they have all these campus organizations, Turning Point, Young Americans for Liberty,
young Americans for Freedom.
That is how they groom young conservatives to be talking heads, personalities, activists.
It starts very young.
And so when I met a representative from one of those groups, I said, oh, you're a good talker,
your great talent, we want to work with you, want you to write for us.
The first thing they asked me, do you want to take a trip to Israel?
No joke.
And they sponsor them.
These are paid sponsored trips.
They call birthright or they go by different names, but they sponsor these trips, and every influencer goes to Israel.
They get the propaganda tour.
They kiss the wall.
They tell them, oh, the Palestinians are evil.
They've been trying to kill us for a thousand years, blah, blah, blah.
And then you come back, and they groom you for many.
Oh, go to this Passover dinner.
Go to this Shabbat dinner.
CPAC, they acclimate you to this very, very pro-Israel culture in the right. And if you ever
ask a question about Israel, go against Israel, you're out, you're done. You're out of Turning
Point. You're out of Young. At Turning Point, I'll give you a little, this is a little insider baseball.
Turning Point USA, they have a list of guest speakers or like approved speakers that, no, no joke,
like literally approved. If you have a chapter, this is who can speak.
Seal of Israel.
Yeah.
Well, there's two speakers on that list of speakers that currently are suspended.
So they're on the Turning Point website.
They're considered turning point speakers, but all the chapters are told you cannot invite those people to speak.
Canis Owens, Elijah Schaefer.
What are those having common?
Right, right.
Criticize Israel.
So it's like, as a consequence, you get a conservative movement.
where no one has ever criticized Israel,
because if they did, they were toast.
A long time ago, they got trashed.
So that is how they basically refine
the conservative movement to have one position on this,
and that's all, if you're just some normie,
you're just some boomer or whatever watching TV,
you got the eye, you know, your kid put you onto the iPad,
you're watching the blaze, that's all you're ever going to hear.
Because if you want to find me, I was banned for four years.
I just got back on Rumble, and they don't let me on the front page.
That's how it goes.
Right, right.
Yeah, we got invited to go to Israel.
I said, hell no.
He said like a black woman.
Hell no.
I was like, I'm not going on this.
Yeah, we got invited.
I said, no, thanks.
I'm going to work.
Yeah, well would I go there?
I would feel so guilty if I went there.
I think they make you put on the hat, too, huh?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Is it true you can't wear a cross?
That is true.
Wow.
Yeah.
If I went out there and did this,
the hill
the hill
he's wearing it
if I do that
will I get beaten
yeah they will spit on you
they will confront you
no you're kidding
you can look out
there's videos of this
Christians walk down the street
a lot of missionaries
they get spit on
they get attacked
like mobs will form up around them
and say
you know you're a piece of shit
you're a Christian
we're better than you
that's because they hate Jesus
they hate Jesus yeah
in Israel
when they teach math and school
they don't use a plus sign.
The most unmasculine look for the voice
I ever see them my wife.
What's up with them hats?
Like they was prevented from hitting puberty or something.
That is crazy.
You said in math they don't use that.
less symbol? Yeah, so on math, they
won't use the plus symbol. Because it looks like a cross.
Because it looks too much like a cross. No,
come on. 100%. Yeah.
That's why they call them, you know, the racial slur
for Jews is
well, I don't know if you're going to say it because
it's a show, but that comes
from the Hebrew word for circle.
Because when the Jews came in on Ellis
Island, they put a check
or a cross next to your name, an
axe, and the Jews said, no, don't put that
on there, put a circle instead.
Because they don't want the cross next to their name.
anything resembling across next to their name.
That's how deep the hatred goes.
Wow.
Okay.
In Israeli schools, an alternative plus sign.
Wow.
I did not know that.
It's an inverted T.
Looks like a cock of balls.
So,
that is so weird.
Isn't that crazy as hell?
This is the first time I've ever heard of this.
And you would think evangelical Christian conservative voters,
I didn't know this,
and a lot of them don't know this.
and all that stuff he gets said.
But they're our biggest ally.
Yeah.
It's like a con.
It's like a big joke.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, they suppress the information.
And the funny thing is
they all know it.
Ben Shapiro knows this stuff.
Oh, yeah.
He won't tell his audience
because, you know, if he tells his audience,
who do you think watches his show?
It's all these Christian Americans
that are America first, love Jesus.
He's Israel first, hates Jesus.
Right.
But Israel only.
needs our country. They need our military. They need our money. And in order to secure that,
they need all the Americans to think they're our closest ally. We have to protect them, religious
reasons, strategic reasons. But yeah, it's an unbelievable scandal. And I found this out, and
that's what got me canceled. You know, it's crazy. We've been, we started reading the Bible.
I was going to read it from front to end. And Israel is a family. Right? And the descendants of
of that family. It's not like a country. It's just wherever that family lived and they were Jewish.
So Jewish people, that's like a race, right? Not a religion? Yes. Well, it's both. It's both.
It's an ethnic religion. And, you know, what a lot of Christians, it is a... So I can't be Jewish.
No. Okay. No. I mean, some, there are different schools of thought. Some Jews accept converts,
but the most hardcore Jews, Jewish law says it's matrilineal, meaning it's panellionial,
passed down by the mother, your mom has to be Jewish.
If your mom's not Jewish, they don't recognize you as Jewish.
Wow.
And the so-called converts, I got a friend who's Jewish, and his father married a non-Jew, a Gentile.
And the Jewish family excommunicated him.
They don't talk to him anymore.
Because all his kids are not Jewish.
He has to marry Jewish woman.
They seem as like a race traitor, basically.
But the difference is, you know, Christians,
A lot of Christians have this idea that, you know, we all read the Bible.
You know, the Jews are the Old Testament or the New Testament.
But the New Testament, the relationship between the New Testament and the Old Testament, it's not a sequel.
The New Testament and the theology in it replaces the theology of the Old Testament.
So in the Old Testament, you have a religion that's based on the people of Israel.
They make sacrifices at the temple.
They have rabbis.
They have the law.
But when Jesus arrives, he changes everything because he becomes the law.
We say that he is the law.
The law is embodied in him.
So the Jews are saying, well, the law of Moses says, you have to stone this woman.
And he says, well, I'm the law.
He says, let he who is without sin casts a first stone.
He completes and fulfills and perfects the law.
He personifies the law.
So in the same way that God gave Moses the Ten Commandments in the Ark of the
covenant, God gave us the law through Mary. We see Mary as the new Ark of the covenant. We see Jesus as
the New Ten Commandments. She carried him in her womb, just like the Ark carried the Old Testament.
He is the law. He fulfills the law, just like the Old Testament was the law. And then when Jesus
dies on the cross, the veil is torn inside the temple. And within a generation, the temple itself is
destroyed. You know, as I'll talk about the temple, the temple itself is destroyed because Jesus
becomes a new temple. There's no need for a temple. There's no need for animal sacrifices.
He becomes a sacrifice. So in the Old Testament, they're sacrificing animals. They talk about the
red heifer. They're trying to do that. God gives us a more perfect sacrifice. He offers up himself.
And so this is where a lot of the Protestants say, well, you know, we need to support Israel because
the Bible says those who bless Israel will be blessed.
But Israel...
They're talking about...
Well, they're talking about...
That's in the book of Genesis.
And the book of Genesis is talking about
what is Israel in the Old Testament
and the first covenant that God makes
with the Jewish people.
When Jesus comes, just like everything else,
Israel's transformed.
The law's changed, the priesthood has changed,
the temple has changed,
and Israel changes.
What was the family and the race
becomes the body of Christ.
He says,
there is neither Jew nor Gentile. The new Israel is the Christians. We're the new Israel. If you believe in
Christ, you're now the chosen people. You enter into the covenant with God. You're grafted onto that
tree. And so that's a theological difference that we call supersessionist has with these dispensationalist
Christians. Yeah, because I always hear Republicans saying they're God chosen people. That's not necessarily
true. Not anymore, no.
Yeah. That's why they hate him so much.
Mm-hmm. Right.
Yeah. I just started reading the Bible. I actually just
reading it. Yeah, so
it's like
it's like a damn riddle. I can't understand.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I'm getting it.
But I'm like, yeah, Israel's a damn family.
I'm taking the Lord's name in vain.
I haven't read all the way through. You're much more advanced
than I am, so I can see
the understanding behind it, yeah.
Yeah, it's a completely
different religion, you know. They think that Judaism and the Old Testament are like part one,
and we're like part two. It's like, no, what Jesus did completely changed everything. And
why they hate him so much is because they're filled with racial pride, because they're still
expecting their Messiah. They wanted a Messiah, because they were living under occupation
by the Romans. They wanted a Messiah who would come and destroy the Romans. They wanted a Messiah who would
come and make Israel a great country, empower their people, give them a kingdom. They wanted a king
like David or like Solomon, who would kill all their enemies, make them the most powerful
country on earth. And what they got was Jesus, who said, I came for everybody. I came to die.
I came to serve. I came to be a humble servant. They didn't like that. They said, we don't like
this Jesus. We wanted Jesus. It's going to make us the emperor of the world and kill all our
enemies. That is what offended
them so much. And
that's what got them crucified. That's what got him crucified.
I'm like
maybe first 10% of the Bible.
What is it? What version are we
reading? The old Genesis.
I mean, it's the old testament. No, no, it's not
Genesis. The King James?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, we're in
Leviticus. How you say it? Leviticus? That's a
sexual book. Stupid.
Well, I just got to Leviticus. Yeah, but this is
the King James version, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. We should the fuck.
Right, and I came across it says,
Palestineia.
Is that, does that mean anything to you?
Mm-hmm.
What does that mean?
That was the Roman name that was given to that area.
That's crazy.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That's a Roman name for that province.
And Israel is just the, was the family of Jacob and his descendants.
It wasn't necessarily a country.
It's just wherever they lived, right?
Yes.
So, but Palestine was an actual place.
A lot of Republicans said it never existed.
Palestine never existed, and they did.
That's something that Jewish people say.
That's just like loaded up.
It's something only a Jewish man would say.
A Jewish person would say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, it's sort of like how, you know, somebody here, or let's say somebody in Texas would say like, this is America.
You know, it's like it's a deep contention about the identity of the place.
Right, right, right.
You know, so the Jew, like, they'll even say, for example, the disputed territory in Israel's
Gaza, Gaza and the West Bank, and the Jews say, no, you can't call it the West Bank.
It's Judea and Samaria, because they believe that if you say West Bank, it almost, like,
denies the Jewish claim to that territory.
They want to call it the biblical Jewish name for that territory because that reflects their
claim over the land.
They're like, no, no, West Bank, this is new.
thousands of years ago, we call the Judean Samaria. That's what it was then. That's what it always is.
It was ours then. It will always be ours. So it's bound up with their contention over their
right to the land. And that's why there's no such thing as a Palestine. And what they mean by that
is there is some truth to the fact that there has never been a nation state called Palestine.
You know, 100 years ago, what is Palestine was controlled by the Ottoman Empire.
It was called UK Palestine or something like?
Yeah, it was the mandate of Palestine, yeah, in the United Kingdom.
But the United Kingdom took it from the Ottomans after World War I.
It was controlled by Turkey.
Turkey lost the war.
And then Britain and France split up their territories.
The UK got Palestine.
But the point is, for thousands of years, you know, since the, I think you may it or Abbasid Caliphate, it was just under control by a Muslim empire.
by an Arab or Turkic Muslim Empire.
And so they say there is never a country called Palestine.
Palestine was a province of the Roman Empire.
Palestine was a province of the Abbasid Caliphate or the Ottoman Empire, and then the British Empire.
But no one ever said, I'm in the same way that you would say, I'm German.
Germany is a country.
France is a country.
It's more like a state.
Right, yeah.
Like no one would say I'm an Illinoisan.
Like, what is that really?
Right.
Is that really identity?
Sounds gay, too.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm a Chicago.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, so they say that to basically undermine the Palestinians' claim to the land.
They say, oh, there's no such thing as a Palestine.
We're the only country, that real country that's ever existed here.
That's why they say it.
I don't know why people don't realize bombing your own citizens and murdering children and kids,
that's like a bad thing.
It's like a war crime.
Yeah.
I don't, I still, to this, I don't get it.
Yeah.
I'm surprised Republicans don't get it.
Yeah, I know.
I mean, we're supposed to be the smartest group of people in the country.
I mean, which we are, but why they don't see this, I don't understand.
As Trump endorsed a very clearly, morally contemptible man for Congress, simply because APEC wants him into office, okay?
That man's name is Randy.
Fine.
He's truly just on its face.
He's a disgusting person.
Just disgusting.
Look at him.
Do you hear this?
Yeah.
And he's so disgusting that he doesn't even try to hide it.
He openly mocks photos of dead Muslim babies on Twitter.
These are real ex-tweets from him.
I'm just going to show you a few of them.
Just to understand, like, this is who Trump got behind.
Gaza must be destroyed, period.
As if no humans live there.
Palestinian is a code word for Hamas.
Bombs away.
He doesn't care.
Kill every last Palestinian.
It's great.
There's another one from him.
Palestinian.
is just another word for demon.
He's writing this.
I just want you guys to try to flip that.
I'll go back to that one.
Try to flip that.
Imagine if I was running for office
and I wrote,
Jewish is just another word for demon.
Jew is just another word for demon.
Israeli, rather, be more precise,
Israeli is just another word for demon.
You would go nowhere in politics.
But for him, Trump's like, elect this guy.
A-PAC wants him.
Okay?
And so he did that.
Let's go on to another one of his tweets.
So blow up the schools.
No mercy.
He's just talking about blowing up schools, you know,
where tons of kids have died.
Tens of thousands of children have been murdered there.
And he's at least honest about the fact that he doesn't care.
And lastly, here's him responding when someone showed him a picture of a dead baby.
And they asked him, how do you sleep, right?
They asked him supporting the killing of innocent people and babies and smearing
voices that fight against genocide for some A-PAC money, says a lot about your character.
You should be ashamed of yourself, Randy.
How do you sleep at night?
He responds and says quite well, actually, thanks for the pick.
That's crazy.
Trump literally tweeted last week or two weeks ago, whatever was, vote for this guy,
A-PAC-indorced.
Now, is Trump?
That's why you don't vote, huh?
Yeah.
That's why you didn't vote for him.
You see that AI video, Trump came out about.
Gaza? No. Even threw a couple
trillions in there.
You had it?
No.
Yeah, this is his, I don't
know if he's trolling, but I think he's serious.
This is his vision for Gaza.
Yeah. Which I looked at the photos of
that place. That's probably the best
real estate in the world.
Hmm.
No.
There's the transgender.
That's a sign.
Number one.
Trump Gaza future.
A brand new life.
Feast and days the deal is done.
Trump Gaza.
Number one.
And this is the same time he said he was going to take all of the Palestinians and give him the own land and all this.
I was like, man, it's crazy.
Yeah.
Well, and it's a glib video.
They're trying to make it funny.
They're trying to make it into a meme.
And I'm not a bleeding heart liberal by any stretch.
But the people in Gaza are literally being starved to death.
Right.
Because all the eight we give to Israel is going straight to them.
None of it goes to the Palestinians.
Exactly.
Yeah, well, they intercept it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They intercept all of it.
And they say, oh, well, anything that's dual use, Israel will confiscate.
So, for example, if a truckload of humanitarian aid has a pair of scissors in it,
Israel says, well, scissors could be a weapon.
We're blocking the whole truck.
That's the pretext with how they do it.
But, yeah, they have blockaded the entire thing.
All the checkpoints are closed.
There's no electricity. They shut down the electricity, no water, no foods getting in, no medicine.
They bomb the hospitals, schools, farmland, residential areas. I mean, so these people, all 2.1 million are just being systematically killed.
Like, by definition, that's what's happening. And I don't know how any Christian can support that.
Right. Right. You know, you could say America has strategic objectives. We don't want Iran to get a nuclear weapon. That's legitimate. We don't want China to invade Taiwan. Okay, that's legitimate.
we're going to murder two million people.
Right.
And this is, it's happening only because of the United States.
People say, well, you know, we shouldn't send them aid.
It's deeper than that.
This could not happen without us.
Like, it's the aid.
We would veto any security council resolution against it.
We come in, if any other country tried to intervene to stop this, we come in to scare them off.
It is only happening because of us.
And we're going to pay the price.
our reputation suffering.
The Muslim world's going to hate us for generations.
Probably there's going to be a terrorist attack inspired by this.
So the blood's on our hands, and Christians support it.
I don't know how you could do that.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
I wasn't going to really talk about the Jews, but I just couldn't help myself.
You know, me and Keith won an award.
What was it, Joe?
It was anti-Semites for the week?
Yeah, it's like...
Of the week.
How many anti-Semites you got away a year?
And I'm not even anti-Semitic.
Yeah.
Just criticize.
It's the same type of...
Yeah.
You can't criticize.
Yeah.
Same thing happened to Canada.
She can call out the black community,
but soon as she said some Muslim Jews.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
She was axed.
Yeah.
Speaking of Kansas, here's Ben Shapiro.
Okay.
Good evening, Mr. Piro.
You've consistently commented the idea
that America was built on Judeo...
Are you saying this?
Yeah.
Yeah.
As a devout Christian,
I have difficulty accepting the term,
given Judaism's rejection of Jesus.
Christians believe Jesus Christ is God.
In contrast, the Talmud, a central Jewish holy book,
teaches that Jesus is burning in hell, fire, and excrement.
And while the New Testament tells us to love our enemies
and pray for those who persecute us,
so from 15 of the Talmud states that even the best of the Gentile should be killed.
Given these irreconcilable differences,
why do you insist on using this oxymoronic term?
First of all, that's a really bad read of the Talmud.
Second of all, the notion that you can cite any text in support of the idea that Judaism broad writ is somehow disdainful or hateful of Christians or of people who are not Jewish is, in fact, a tremendous misread of Judaism over the centuries and particularly today.
I can cite sections in the New Testament that I find personally problematic.
I can certainly cite segments in the Quran that I find personally problematic.
The truth is I could probably find place in the Old Testament that I find personally problematic.
That does not speak to what Judaism is.
is and its historic impact on the world.
Judaism is the foundation of Christianity.
Jesus himself acknowledged this.
The New Testament acknowledges this.
The notion that Judaism and Christianity
are somehow completely delinked and teach
two completely separate lessons ignores the fact
that the Old Testament is part and parcel of the New Testament.
Sure, Christians and Jews think different things.
Of course.
Otherwise, I'd be a Christian or you'd be a Jew.
If we thought completely the same thing,
then presumably we would have the exact same religion.
But the notion that Judaism and Christianity
are completely delinked is wrong.
As far as miscitations from the Talmud, or even citations of text that are written in the year 500 CE at a time when Jews were being persecuted by Christians in the Roman Empire,
that seems to me a real stretch to get to the idea that Jews today are overall hateful of Christians.
I'm not sure that there's anybody in America, personally speaking, who's pushed more people back to church than me.
I really don't know that there is anybody who's done that.
I tell Christians literally all the time to go to church.
I tell Christians all the time to re-engage with their faith.
I think it is deeply, deeply important that they do.
I don't try to convert people to Judaism because that's actually forbidden in Jewish law.
I'm not supposed to convert people to Judaism.
So I know the people who spend all day online cherry picking bad lines from the Talmud,
a text that they have no familiarity with,
and then trying to spin that into a giant myth about how Jews are seeking the extermination of Christians
or some other bizarre conspiracy theory.
It's a lie, it's stupid, and the Judeo-Christian values of the nation are quite real,
because once again, Judaism and Christianity have an awful lot in common.
Yeah. Let me say this. He says, I don't push people to Judaism. Like, you can't. I can't be a Jew. Right. So why would he say that? And why is people spitting it people, Christians went across? And why did you, like, banned the cross out of your mathematics? Yeah. There's a reason why you don't push people to Judaism, because we can't be Jews. Right. Yeah. And it's like a lot of people, a lot of his followers are ignorant to that.
Well, they think that his religion, like every other one, is universal.
And, like, if you're a Muslim, you believe anyone can be a Muslim.
All you have to do is say, God is only God, Muhammad is a prophet.
If you say that, you're a Muslim.
Christians believe if you get baptized, you believe, depending on the sect, anyone could be a Christian.
But Jews believe that, like, they are human beings and everyone else is an animal.
They think that they have souls, and we don't.
Right. They have one set of laws and we have another. And everyone, it's just like a baseline
assumption. Universalism, I would even say liberalism is like a universal religion in the sense
that they believe in equality and everyone can vote and everybody can access reason. Everybody
can learn science or get educated. But Judaism is exclusionary. It says this one race is the chosen
people. One race has a law. One race has a soul. And he just lies. I mean,
In the Talmud, it says, and there's a book about it, Jesus in the Talmud by Peter Schaefer.
It is indisputable.
He says those are misquotes, or it's a false citation.
Yeah.
It is a while ago.
Yeah, right.
It's 2,000 years ago.
It's very clearly about Jesus.
It says that his mother's a whore.
He's burning in hell.
They say he's a sorcerer.
And, you know, and he also says, well, Christianity comes from Judaism.
Judaism breaks off from Christianity at the time.
of Christ and become something different. That's what they don't talk about. There's a whole mystical
branch of Judaism. That's where the word Kabbal comes from. You would say Kabbal. Kabal comes from Kabbalah,
which is Jewish mysticism, which became popular. That's the basis of Freemasonry. That's the basis of
Illuminesism. It's all based in Jewish mystic books, which came after the New Testament.
After Christ, After the New Testament, Old Testament.
They come from the Zohar comes from the Middle Ages.
And that's where they base all this stuff out of.
This term that was in the Old Testament, it said synagogue of Satan.
Who is you think they was referring to?
It's pretty obvious.
It's not very subtle.
Well, synagogue, you know the synagogue is, right?
It's a Jewish church.
Right, right, right.
It's a little on the nose.
Y'all been asking stupid questions.
Yeah.
Yeah, what do they call a Muslim church?
I forget.
Mosque.
A mosque.
A mosque.
It didn't call it a mosque of Satan?
It didn't say church of Satan.
It said synagogue and said it.
Yeah.
That's wild.
That's in the Bible.
Jesus said that.
And he was a Jew.
Yeah.
You know, my older brother, he said this word anti-Semitic.
My brother told me.
He's like 10, 11 years old enough?
He says, how can I be anti-Semitic?
My Lord and Savior was a Jew.
It's true.
Yeah.
It's almost like that term is made up just for Israel so that you can't criticize them.
It was.
Yeah.
That's the purpose of it.
Because you forget Palestinians, they're Semitic.
Right.
Muslims, Arab.
All Arabs are Semitic.
They're Semitic, but they own the right to.
I guess they like the best, it doesn't make any sense.
Well, they're Gentiles.
They're the cream of the crop.
So that works.
Starting to think Trump's a Jew.
I askanazy you.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't get that, man.
And I understand why you didn't vote because we're doing a lot of evil thing across the world in the name of our biggest ally, Israel.
Yeah.
Well, and it's going to backfire because Trump ran the first time on America first, which is we're going to get out of the Middle East.
And it's very obvious that after October 7th, they supported Trump.
because they knew he would support them in the Middle East.
That's why I said, I'm out.
You know, he's going to...
Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because after October 7th, they said, even a lot of the liberal Jews said,
we got to support Republicans because Biden was trying to stop Israel from doing what they're doing in Gaza.
It wasn't successful, but they knew a Republican Congress, a Republican president.
Trump already gave him $12 billion.
He's been in office three months, gave him $12 billion.
They're going to sign another memorandum of understanding that'll give them four and eight every year,
for 25 years.
Previous one was 10 years.
This one's going to be 25 years.
They'd give him more money every year.
So they knew that electing him,
he's going to be the more pro-Israel, the two.
That's why they put him in.
So I said, I'm just not going to vote for that.
These are two bad options.
It's going to backfire on America first.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, when I see,
every time I try to say his name,
Kanye pops in my mind with that damn net.
I see him
Netanyahu sits in his chair
and he tucks him in
I was like what the hell was that
I've never seen Trump tuck somebody in a chair
a male
he did it a few times
he did it with Modi
with the Indian president
I'll be objective with that
he did it I see it with Modi
the Indian president
okay no I don't feel so bad
well he caught my eye when he did it with
Net and Yavre
yeah it's just gross
when he does a Rial
Yeah. Yeah, hopefully, I don't know how this ends, but man, what do you think that? How does this all going to end?
The Middle East? Israel's going to nuke everybody.
Well, I mean, not far off. I think so.
That's how it ends. Because they got nuclear weapons, right?
That's right. Well, and, you know, right now the big question is Iran. What are we going to do with them? Because basically,
from October 7th. This has been the master plan, is to bring the United States into a war with Iran. It's
what they've wanted to do for 20 years. And, you know, for reasons we could get into Iran is the only
challenger to Israel to be a regional power. It's Israel versus Iran, and that's it. And the reason
being is because Iran has proxies in basically every country. The leader of Iran, the Ayatollah,
is not just a political leader. He's a religious leader. Iran is a center of Shia.
Islam, which is the second biggest sect of Islam. The king of Saudi Arabia, he's the custodian
of the two mosques. He's the head of Sunni Islam. The Ayatollah in Iran is the head of Shiite Islam,
and the clerics that are on the country. They're the head of that branch. So they influence
all the Shiite Muslims in the whole region. There are Shiite Muslims in Iraq,
alloys in Syria and Bahrain, in Saudi Arabia. They're everywhere. So Iran influences all
these Muslims in every other country religiously, and since the 80s, Iran's Revolutionary Guard
has been training up all of these militias in the Shiite parts of the Middle East. So they raised
up Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen, these militias in Iraq, they infiltrated Syria.
And so Israel has the United States. We pay off Egypt, Jordan, we have bases in Saudi Arabia,
a cutter, we pay off the Emirates, Kuwait. We have half the region because of we and Israel has half
the region because of our money, because of our military. Iran, they're the only other regional
power because they influence these populations in all the other countries. They have this religious
influence, military influence, and they are one of the more powerful countries just because
of their characteristics. 90 million people, big middle class, diversified economy, they're
educated. They have a nuclear program, missile program, drone program. They have a Navy. So Israel and
Iran, these are the last player standing. Forty years ago, you had Libya, you had Iraq, you had
Egypt, you had Syria. These are all powerful countries. You had Sudan, one by one. They've all been
destroyed. Iraq was destroyed by the United States. Syria destroyed by the United States. Sudan,
Civil War, backed by Israel in the United States. Somalia is falling apart at the seams right now.
Libya, overthrown by the United States. Iran and Israel, these are the last one standing.
After October 7th, Israel said, we're going to piece by piece dismantle Iran's empire, starting with Hamas, then Hezbollah, then the Houthis, and then we take out all of them, we're going to deliver the killing blow against Iran.
problem is they can't take out Iran on their own because if Israel attacks Iran, Iran's going to get a nuclear bomb.
Iran has a capability to make one, but they haven't determined to make one yet because they know if they do that, it will invite an attack from Israel and the United States.
So they're on the fence. If they don't have any nuclear program, they're vulnerable. But if they get a bomb, they'll get attacked.
Israel cannot attack Iran. They're not powerful enough. They need us to do it. But we, for obvious reasons, don't want to do it. We've spent 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan. We don't want to fight Iran. We have no beef with them. So Israel's trying to create a, they're trying to manufacture a situation where we're both forced to fight each other. So last year in April, Israel bombed Iran's embassy in Syria, which is like totally against international law. Embassies are off limits. You just can't do that. It's like the foundation.
of all international law. Iran had to respond. If they don't, they look weak. This was their first
provocation. Israel bombed their embassy to force Iran to attack Israel because they knew that if Iran
counterattacked, the United States would be forced to intervene to defend Israel. So there was this
intense diplomacy where the United States, we put aircraft carriers there. We put all these assets
there to send a message to Iran. If you attack Israel, we will destroy you. So Iran, they launched like,
I don't know, 50 missiles at Israel, didn't hit anything. They had to do something, but they couldn't do
anything meaningful. If they did nothing, they would look like a bitch. But if they hit them too hard,
the United States would retaliate. So Iran averted the confrontation. Then again in July,
end of July, Israel assassinated the leader of Hamas inside Iran on their inauguration day.
Iran was inaugurating a new president and the Palestinian leader was visiting the capital.
Israel blew him up. Massad exploded his hotel where he was staying and killed them.
Once again, another major provocation. Could you imagine if a foreign head of state was killed in D.C.?
When Trump was being inaugurated, we would nuke them. We would blow them to pieces.
Once again, Iran had to attack Israel.
The United States pulled up again with two aircraft carriers said,
not so fast. If you intervene, we're going to hit you back.
Iran waited two months.
They did a much bigger attack on Israel.
This time some of the missiles hit.
It was a little bit more severe.
But again, the United States and Israel did not respond.
Now that Trump is in office, Israel recognizes this is a perfect opportunity because Trump is a Zionist.
Trump got $100 million from Miry Madelson.
He got money from the Israel lobby to become president.
He appointed neocons.
Mike Walts, his national security advisor, wants war with Iran.
Rubio, Secretary of State wants war with Iran.
They set this situation up.
Lindsey Graham, who's a big, he's a neocon, big ally of Trump.
They set it up where now they're going to restart the war in Gaza.
They've restarted the war with the Houthis in Yemen.
That's the on-ramp to get the United States to bomb Iran.
So this weekend, this is very topical, the Trump administration had a meeting with Iran.
They sent Steve Whitkoff. He met with the foreign minister of Iran.
Trump said, you have 60 days to make a nuclear deal or else we're going to war.
And everyone, including myself, said, this is impossible.
There's never going to be a nuclear deal.
For complex reasons, it's just not going to happen.
And if it happens, it's not going to happen in 60 days.
So it's a guaranteed war.
But it looks like things that's looking up, like the meetings went well, both.
side said it was positive, said it was constructive. But if diplomacy becomes viable, if we get
close to a deal, Israel's going to come back in and sabotage it. Israel's going to come in.
They're going to do some provocation. Like, let's say, for example, what if, God forbid,
some American base is attacked, and it's blamed on Iran? There goes your deal. What happens
if Israel attacks Iran? There goes your deal. Iran can't make a deal with the United States.
States, if they're getting attacked by Israel. So if we get too close to a deal, they're going to
sabotage it, and they're going to put us on a path to war. And so I think it's basically unavoidable
at this point that we're going to war with Iran. And then when Iran is destroyed, then Israel gets
to do whatever they want. There'll be nobody left to oppose them. Whole Middle East will be
under their influence. And they're in the center. Think about where Israel's located. They're in the
middle of Asia, Europe, and Africa. They're in the center of all global trade. The Belt and Road,
the China's building, the rail, the shipping routes, all of it goes through the Middle East.
And so when you control the Middle East, it's not like controlling, you know, like Mexico or whatever.
You control the Middle East is like the most important region in the world.
It's all the oil.
It's all these other energy resources.
It's all the supply chains, all the shipping routes.
Is that what Trump won't Greenman?
That's part of it, yeah.
Yeah.
Because of, you know, the Arctic is melting.
and so that's going to be viable for shipping.
It wasn't viable before because it was all ice,
but now that it's melting, now there's going to be a lot of trade.
It's also important for missile defense.
You know, if a missile comes from China,
it's going to come over the Arctic.
So we want to deploy radar so we could see that.
So it's really for power projection.
But, yeah, I mean, you start to understand
it all comes down to strategy,
all comes down to military strategy.
and Israel wants, if they take out Iran, they control everything, and it's a very important region to control.
People don't even realize they're going to become a global power.
You know, people think of Israel as like our satellite.
They're like our puppet or like a junior partner.
At 50 years, Israel's going to be a big player.
They're going to be a great power.
Like the UK was, like France, they're going to be a serious player.
So people have no idea.
And then they won't need us.
Right.
You know, then they'll be on their own.
So that's a very scary situation where the United States doesn't have power over them or leverage.
Right, right.
Fuck.
What about Putin and president of China?
How do you feel about, you think, about Israel?
Well, Putin is close with Israel.
People don't realize this.
Yeah.
But that's because Russia has a huge Jewish population, always has.
And so Putin has a rabbi, and he has good relations with Israel.
And so does China, for that matter.
But insofar as Israel and the United States are joined at the hip, China and Russia are less pro-Israel than the United States.
But they're never against Israel.
You know, Israel's part of the Belt and Road, which is China's infrastructure project.
And Israel's allied with Russia.
So, you know, a lot of people think like, oh, Russia's fighting against this.
They have their hands in everything, unfortunately.
The only countries that are against Israel, it's Iran.
That's about it.
And that's whoever wants to destroy.
Wow.
That's crazy.
Makes sense why Fox News and everybody's all.
The Muslims are a bunch of terrorists.
They want to make like, we're just going to clean the house because these people are evil and they hate Christians.
Right.
Well, yeah, because if they're terrorists, they got to go.
So they just say, anybody that sympathizes, you're supporting terrorism.
It's just like the oldest trick in the book.
Yeah.
Hey, how do you feel about all your talking points becoming mainstream news now?
All your talking points you've been talking about for years.
Now it's like it's more prevalent in like on Instagram, like everybody's sharing your same views.
Podcasts, influential people saying the exact same things you've been saying.
Yeah.
It's shocking.
I never thought it would happen this fast or that it would happen at all.
Because years ago, I was radioactive, you know, in 2017, when I was saying the stuff back then, nobody would touch me at the 10.4.
poll for saying this, and you would get banned, and now as part of it. So it's kind of unbelievable,
and I'm actually a little bit skeptical of it, to tell you the truth, because I think that
what you tend to find is that the system is very good at controlling the opposition. You know,
controlled opposition is always, in my opinion, the biggest threat, which is to say that if you
are running the country, and you have like, you know, just just because of human nature, not every
everybody's going to agree with what you're doing. And he might be unpopular at times.
So people are going to protest, rebel, resist, vote for the opposite party.
So the most resilient way to run a country is to not only control your own side, but to also control the opposition.
And this is how a lot of people look at the country, that the right and the left are really two sides of the same coin.
You know, when people get tired of the left, they give you the right. People get tired of the right, they give you the left.
But really, they're giving you a lot of the same stuff. And you get this illusion of change.
Oh, well, you know, we got Trump in. Now things are going to improve. Oh, we got the left. And now things are going to get better. And you kind of play both sides off of each other. And I think that in some ways, whereas I represent an organic opponent of the system, I'm someone that's actually criticizing some of the most important issues. They recognize it's becoming popular. They recognize people are resonating with that message. But they don't want someone that's independent to be saying it because they don't control me. They don't
pay me. I kind of hate them because they ruined my life. So I'm, you know, if I ever had power,
I would wield it against them. So they say, well, why don't we get someone that sounds like him,
but they're really with us? And that person will be promoted. That person won't have barriers
or obstacles. That person will become more popular. And that person, you know, they, they sound
close enough, but they're not quite saying the same thing. And they can sound very close, but they'll,
that person is never independent.
That person will always be dependent on the system.
And I think that's a huge.
It's called infiltration, skin-suting.
Like perfect example has happened with the Tea Party.
Tea Party was organic.
People said, all right, we've had enough of big government
and taxes and the bailouts.
We want to have another tea party.
And Republicans figured it out.
And Republicans just learned how to sound like tea partiers.
And they infiltrated.
People like Mark Rubio, he was one of the first.
Pretended to be a tea partier.
He was one of the big, he beat Charlie Christian the primary in 2012 to win the nomination for the Senate seat in Florida.
Then he gets in and betrays the Tea Party, joins a gang of aid on immigration, betrays all the fiscal conservatives.
This is what they're very good at doing.
And it's happened for many generations.
It's like there's a rebellion on the conservative side.
The base of the GOP says the GOP isn't good.
They're not conservative enough.
we need to throw the bastards out and get good people.
And there's a lot of energy behind it, but then the GOP, they just pick it up.
They learn how to talk to talk.
They learn how to make themselves seem like they're part of that, that rebellious part of the movement.
That happened with the Buchananites, with the paleocons.
It happened with the America Firsters, anti-communists, and it happened with the Tea Partyers,
and now it's happening with the Trumpists.
I think J.D. Vance is your, that's a perfect example.
J.D. Vance in 16 was saying Trump is Hitler.
He's a rapist.
Everything that the liberals were saying.
People said he had an epiphany.
No, he decided to run for Senate.
And he knew he could only win if he had Trump's endorsement.
So he's bitching about Trump for all these years.
I, Trump's a Nazi.
He's an idiot.
He's a racist.
I love Obama.
Then Trump wins.
And he goes, oh, shit.
I got to run for Senate.
And I'm against a sitting president.
So Peter Thiel, J.D. Vance's mentor and a major donor to Trump sets up a meeting.
And Vance and Teal and Trump sit down at Mar-a-Lago and they broker a truce.
J.D. Vance becomes Maga.
Oh, now he's a big Trump supporter.
That's your epiphany.
And Trump endorses him.
And then he becomes a senator.
And it's like, and now people think he's the greatest thing since Slice Brad.
But that's just textbook infiltration.
So I'm very skeptical of anybody that sounds like me, you know.
Say it when it was difficult.
Now it's easy to say it.
And now you got people saying it to make money.
Now I got people saying it because they just if they learn the truth.
Some people are saying it because they're trying to steal the credibility that people like me have earned for telling the truth when it was difficult.
And they're redirecting it back into the same politics.
It's crazy.
Just when you think you know something.
You invite Nick Fuentes on your show.
Makes you feel like a dumb fuck.
Hey, man.
So that's why people don't want to interview.
Yeah.
Yeah, because, I mean, what do people have to gain from interviewing me?
I mean, you get canceled.
I'm about ready to just give up now.
Yeah.
Why?
We're trying to solve making sense now.
You know?
It's fucking.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
How corrupt our government is.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
We actually are the United States of Israel.
We're funding everything for them.
We fund everything.
But he'll have this out. But Hillary was right.
There you go.
It's demoralizing.
But the good news is people are, this is not the scenario they prefer.
People are waking up.
And it is a big threat to them.
And they're always going to have a counter.
You know, we were telling the truth.
They were censoring us.
We prevailed.
The censorship stopped.
People are being persuaded.
Now they have to deploy a countermeasure.
The countermeasure is to muddy the waters, you know, infiltrate.
Have you seen people, they're actually calling you a Fed now?
Yeah, that's the new thing.
Yeah.
Didn't take a lot.
I was a Nazi for four years, and now I'm a fat.
Can't win.
That's an approved, right?
Yeah, I don't know.
Is it?
Yeah, right.
At least the Nazi thing was closer to being true, you know?
Yeah.
The left Harris-Botton, are they?
Are they supportive of Israel?
Yeah, they are.
They are.
Yeah, they all are.
But, I mean, Biden was Apex man, you know?
Biden was the Israel lobby's man.
He was the number one recipient of Israel money in the Senate for decades.
But there's factionalism even among the Jewish people.
You know, Biden had allies in Israel's government that are against Netanyahu.
And so they just have a different, you know, there's factionalism among the Jews, among Israelis.
So it's not as people like to just, oh, it's just, it's the Jews.
It is a little more nuanced than that.
But at the end of the day, they're all on the same side.
Same side.
You know, the ADL and Ben Shapiro were on the same side on October 7th.
That's all you need to know.
You know, they pretend like they're not, but they are.
Hey, Tim Poole, I think he just, he met it with NetN Yahoo, didn't he?
Yeah.
It's kind of weird, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know what else is weird?
they both got money from Russia.
Remember that?
Right, yeah, yeah.
Dave Rubin and Tim Poole, they were both Tenet guys.
Tenet was that media company with Lauren Chen.
They got busted because they got all this money from Russia.
It was funded by Russia, undisclosed.
Yeah.
And then they're the ones at the Netanyahu meeting.
So it's like, hmm.
Was it Russia money?
Yeah, well, yeah, right?
It's interesting, isn't it?
Yeah.
But there's a huge, that's a huge nexus, Russia and Israel.
But it just goes to show it's like, is there anybody in the conservative media landscape that isn't taking foreign money?
Yeah.
I mean, because Tim Poole is a pretty popular guy.
Yeah.
He's left on YouTube.
And you wonder, how does a radical pro-Trump guy like that?
How does he stay on YouTube?
Well, I think he just found your answer.
I mean, with Netanyahu and Russia.
Yeah.
They're getting foreign money.
So, and he calls me a Fed.
It's like, I'm not meeting with BB Netanyahu.
So I think I'm good, actually, you know?
I didn't get money from Russia.
Right.
But the point is, like, things are way more complicated than they seem.
People think at the end of the day, that's what Red Pill means.
Red Pill, people think Red Pill means being, like, conservative.
It doesn't mean being conservative.
In the movie The Matrix, where it comes from, they realized they were living in a simulation.
It was a created world.
Everything they saw was manufactured.
It was generated.
It was all lie.
And the red pill was to realize this world is not what it seems.
It's an illusion.
Right.
And the blue pill is to say, I don't care.
I'm going to live in the illusion.
The illusion's more comfortable than the reality.
I prefer, you know, there's a famous line, the guy that takes a blue pill says, well, steak still tastes like steak.
Even though it's not real, still feels good.
And so what the red pill means in politics is to put a very, at the most fundamental level, if you take the idea and it's,
simplest form. It means things are not as they seem. The world is not what it seems to be.
What it seems to be is, oh, Tim Poole, oh, I like that guy. I like what he says.
You know, people watch the show, oh, I agree with that guy. That guy's making a lot of sense,
you know, because you got some boomer out there, Gen Xer, and they watch that guy, and they're like,
that guy's, there's like this implicit identity where they say, that guy's like me. And who
Who am I?
I'm some guy who works some job.
I'm out there in the world.
I have my opinions.
Tim Poole's like me.
He's some guy in the world with opinions.
He's on YouTube.
He's saying him.
We think a lot alike.
That's not really what's going on.
Because you aren't meeting with Bebeenayahu and getting money from Russia.
He is.
Right.
It's sort of like watching a football game and saying, I like watching football.
You know, I like going to the games.
and eating popcorn. I like watching it on TV and wearing the jersey. The people that play the
game are like me. It's like, no, they're not. They're playing the game. You're watching the game.
And similarly, Tim Poole and Shapiro, they're playing the game. You're watching the game. It's
different dynamic. But that's part of that it's built on that fundamental deception, which is,
you know, these people that are in conservative media, they're just guys with opinions just like us,
but they're not.
You know, they're in this political world.
They have to get paid.
How are they getting paid?
They're getting, in many cases, by foreign governments.
How are they staying on YouTube?
How are they running in these circles?
Tradeoffs, deals being made behind the scenes.
That's all of them, you know?
And I know enough of them to know that.
Covert influence.
So that's the dirty secret.
And when the red pill starts to come through,
it's sort of like the simulation starts to crumble.
It's like the Truman Show boat hits the painting.
Right, right.
That's a yay set.
It's like my favorite expression.
He says,
my Truman Show boat hit the painting.
It's like, wait,
Tim Poole was meeting with Netanyahu.
He got money from Russia.
Maybe we can't leave this town.
Yeah.
I heard of Daily Watt just struggling.
Yeah.
Is that true?
It is.
Yeah.
That's what they say.
And it's because, you know,
no one's buying in anymore, you know?
People were buying in when they were the only game in town.
but now that censorship is going away and you have Andrew Tate, you got Canna Soans, you got
Elijah Schaefer, you got Myron, you guys, now that censorship is going away and people are getting
the truth, they're like, why do I need this propaganda? You don't need to listen to Shapiro say,
here's why Israel's right. He's just lying. Everyone knows that. People don't, that was,
that was a competitive, viable option when anyone that disagreed was banned on the internet. You know,
people love Shapiro when if you were to the right of Shapiro, you weren't able to have a YouTube
channel. But now that you can, people are like, I want to hear about conspiracy theories. I want to
hear the whole truth. So I think that's a huge reason why they're going out of business.
Like, they still have Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles. Do you think it's going to dissolve?
I don't know. I don't know enough about the dynamics there. I hope Matt Walsh quits. He's a Catholic.
Right. Yeah. You know, you think that he would have some.
Makes sense for him to quit.
Yeah. I mean, what's keeping them there? I guess the money.
Well, Brett Cooper, she left, they kept the channel.
He would start all over again. You have to start all over again.
Right.
Yeah. I mean, it wouldn't be hard for him to do that. But all those years, all those videos, all that work went into it and they can just keep it and say, you're gone.
It's like, what a Jewish thing to do.
It's insane.
Yeah.
They literally got him by the fucking nuts.
Yeah.
It's no different than the entertainment.
entertainment industry. And that's what happened to Yay. Yay went against them. And then they literally
froze his money at Apple, froze his money at Adidas, all the stuff that he thought was his.
It's actually theirs. That's what the contract says. So it's like that's how they centralized
control. It's crazy. People, you know, once again, it's like people just don't know how it works behind
the scenes. And that's how we have this, you know, everyone that's put in front of us is controlled.
they're on strings, except for us.
I'm glad you said that.
Oh, man.
Could it be positive?
Hey, do you have any political aspirations, run for office, said it?
I don't know.
I don't think I'm cut out.
I have no impulse control.
Like you guys.
No.
You try to say you're black?
Yeah, exactly.
I'm too black to run around from swinging on people and just saying the wrong thing.
Yeah.
No, probably not.
I don't think I could win. I'm too short. Everyone hates me.
Oh, man. Hey, man. So where can people find you now?
I'm on Rumble. I'm on Rumble, Twitter. That's it.
You think someday you'll be able to, you know, have some of the things that natural, I mean, natural born citizens like me and everybody else have at their disposal, if they'll be afforded back to you?
I hope so.
I think it's changing.
Yeah.
It seems like we're, you know, wokeism seems to be over.
It is, totally is.
Yeah.
But I look back at like 2013, it feels like a different universe, you know?
Yeah.
You look back on those days and I grew up in those days and it's like everybody was so.
It felt like wokeism.
I hate that expression, but is what it is.
It felt like it was unstoppable.
Like, that's how it would always be forever.
It's just like more gay, more women, more, you know, whatever.
Dude, before the truth.
go, did you hear Kanye's new
song? I did.
Yeah. Of course he did.
Oh, yeah.
As soon as he got the guy, man, listen to my new
phone.
Jesus.
That's the album cover.
Oh, yeah?
Uh-huh.
This dude is dumb.
Oh, man.
Hey, man.
Thanks to cover.
So anybody can find your rumble?
Yes.
Okay.
Rumble and X.
That was a day.
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