Hodgetwins Podcast - Hodgetwins & Candace Owens Are DONE Holding Their Tongues About Erika Kirk...

Episode Date: February 16, 2026

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Hodge Twins, Hortas. Yeah. After his death, everyone noticed the left and the right how Erica was grieving. Like at his funeral, when she came out to those paro-technics

and the way she was dressed, I was really, I bit my tongue. I thought it was weird, but everybody grieved differently. And I fanned into that. Everybody grieves differently. I don't think any,

everybody grieves like that? It's one of these things, these like psychological trips, a tricks, pardon, that they always argue in the extremities, right? So it's like everybody, when they're growing up, like, you know, you're a girl or a boy when you're born, right? And then they'll be like, but what about this percentage of people that are actually born in their hermaphrodite? That therefore means that, you know, gender dysphoria is real because this could have

happen and you're like, oh, please stop arguing in the extremes. Like, you are not an exception. There is this whole realm of rules, and let's stop arguing with the exceptions, okay? Right. Personally, the only exception that I have seen to the rule of grieving in this manner with the pyrotechnics and the glitter and the laughter is Erica. Now, I've seen other ways of grieving as in people who just, you know, don't want to be seen for a while. or people who drink. There's all these other ways that people grieve,

people who get into drugs, whatever it is. But generally, we recognize as humans what is within the realm of normal grieving, and this was the first time I've seen it done in this way, especially when you add into the fact that this was a public execution. And the entire world had a normal spiritual response to that, as we discussed earlier,

we would therefore expect since people who do not know Charlie could not get out of bed that you would perhaps expect that of his wife. And then if you remove that part, if you remove the CEO, maybe, okay, some people want to throw themselves into work, it certainly helps me to get back to some sense of normalcy, not in that regard of wanting to become the CEO

of the chairman of a company. But even if you removed all of that, I think the part that no one, can make an excuse for is not instantly worrying about the safety of your kids. Right. If you just watch your husband be assassinated and you realize, my kids only have one parent left, and I don't know how this happened, your natural instinct is to not leave your children, your children's side.

Right. Great point. And so I think that to me was the loudest part. You know, have your pyrotechnics. Say you want to be the CEO, but to be present and at the office every day, days later, that doesn't, that doesn't track. Right. Yeah, you released a voicemail of Erica talking to.

I forget who she was talking to, but she was sharing some of the financials over the funeral of Charlie and how much money they made. It's just, it sounds like she was gloating about the money and she didn't really care about, I mean, I don't know, I'm not trying to offend anybody. It's just like you, you was happy about the money and how good it went, and your husband's past,

it's like you almost forgot about your husband because it was a financial success. So I just tell you how I experienced that call. I was spiritually disturbed by it. That's the truth. And everyone was. I didn't need to contextualize the call. The call was, this is 11 days, not even two weeks after your husband was assassinated.

You are referring to the memorial as the event of the century and discussing how much money you made off of selling t-shirts and hats. and then it almost felt like it was obligatory for her to then realize, like, oh, I should say something about Charlie. It's like, oh, Charlie's dancing in heaven. He's like, get to work. And then, you know, he's just, he's up there and he's like more hats. I feel like if he's up there, he's probably like, please figure out what happened to me. Right.

Because they're lying to you, obviously, if we're doing that. So that contrast and sort of what I really felt from it was emotional manipulation. They were manipulating people. to think that it was almost like divine that they were part of this turning point family and we've experienced this together. And the best way that we can cope with this tragedy is to work harder and to work longer days

and weekends and 20 hours because that's what Charlie would want. Like that's what makes Charlie dance in heaven. It made me feel disgusted to listen to it. If I'm being frank, as even if you didn't know Charlie, that was the general feeling. And except for the media, screw the shirt. Yeah, screw the hat, screw the money.

I'd rather have my husband. That's right. I'm like, why are you even saying these things? I was even expecting like, okay, if you're going to say, like, if that's me and I'm like, I'm going to get to work. And for me, I then got obsessed because at first I couldn't watch the clip. My husband didn't let me watch it. So I saw the clip from afar from getting shot, but I did not see the clip of him up close.

And I'm glad he didn't let me watch that because I wasn't, you know, I couldn't have dealt with that. It was a lot. then I watched it obsessively and I watched every single angle and I organized, you know, this angle from the side left. And so my work was dedicated to trying to figure out what happened that day, who was there? What are the names of the people? Even if she had jumped on that call, the one that was five days later before the event

and said, here's what we're going to do. Like the events team, I want a list of every person that was there. I want, you know, this, I want that. I want to know every single minutes. Terrell, you bring me the tapes, then I would say, okay, she's getting to work to solve who killed her husband. Right. But it wasn't that.

It was like, I fully accept the narrative on day five. Here's what we're going to do. We got a plan for the memorial. That's missing. You can't skip that process. You can't skip it. And looking at Vanessa, Vanessa Bryant, Kobe Bryant's wife, she went through all of the right emotions.

She was suing everybody. She was angry. She was aggrieved. There were no pyrope. techniques at the memorial event. Right. She, even the differences in her speech,

like Erica is talking about turning point, what turning point's going to be, you didn't get to learn who Charlie was in that speech. It was like he was just a company. And Vanessa's speech, she talks,

she speaks about her daughter and all the things she's going to miss about her daughter, things that we didn't know about Kobe. Like, we were invited into that. Because we knew him as basketball player, but this was her husband.

And she spoke about what it was like, not knowing that she wasn't going to be there when Gianna got married. and I say to people, you should challenge yourself to go watch Vanessa's speech and then compare it to Erica's Memorial speech and you will see what is missing here. Right. Right. It doesn't seem real. But the way you explain yourself and like I just wanted to show the human side of you because I see the tax people who try to make on you. It's like you genuinely want to find out who killed your best friend. That's the vibe I get. And from what I see. from the people on the right.

I mean, I'm not going to call them on the right. I would say Zionist, Israel first Republicans. But I think it's, if you were getting 10,000 views and wasn't making any money while you were doing it, I don't think they would have a problem. I think they're pretty much pissed off at your success. Yeah. Because, but you were having a lot of great success

before this Charlie Kirk incident happened. Right, right. Yeah, I mean, that was, they have nothing to judge me on, and that's what they're really upset with, these are the people that actually tried to grift off of his death. They sold T-shirts, they sold hats. I mean, T-Corpont USA made a quarter of a billion dollars in a couple of months. So it's just stunning that Erica sits up on Fox News,

and she says to people that are making tens and thousands of dollars on YouTube, okay, quarter billion grift. Like, are you kidding me in a couple of months? Like, that's just wild to me because they were referring to YouTubers, even that were speaking about like the ballistic ones that were going viral. She said, do you understand how much money they're making? I'm like, yeah, no, actually, do you understand how much money they're making? Because it's a drop in the bucket compared to what Turning Point USA has made.

Like they're trying to make it seem like everybody on YouTube now went from making $0 to hundreds of thousands of dollars or something like that, which couldn't be further from the truth. Our podcast was already top 10 globally. Don't forget, this is part of why Brigitte is suing me because she's saying that my podcast was successful, only because I found out that she has a penis, right? Like, it can't be everyone to keep saying this. When I did the Kamala Chronicles and we were top three globally at the end of last year, they were like, oh, it's only because of the election. And then when the Blake Lively series went viral and Blake Lively's people issued a statement,

it was like, oh, it's only because of Blake Lively. It's like, calm down. Like, calm down, narcissists. It's because I'm dedicated to investigating things and I'm passionate about. And you could not have stumbled upon something. that I am going to be more passionate about than finding out what happened to Charlie because, and I explain this to my husband,

it felt like there was a part of my political life, like a political innocence that died with Charlie. You know what I mean? And that's why I go back to this, looking back to these texts of, oh, my God, oh, Charlie, Don Jr. just followed me. Eric Trump just followed me on Instagram. Oh, my gosh, this is amazing.

Like, you know, in the future, we might be invited to speak on CPAC stage. Like, oh, we sound like kids. because we were in a way we were political kids and we didn't understand how deep and how evil and I guess how dangerous

politics could become and so I had to mourn that too like this was recognition that this actually happened and the people who should be protecting Charlie and who he gave his life to are silent so yeah you stumbled upon

you already knew I liked to investigate evil and then you created you committed an act of evil that was personal to me So surprise, I'm here.