Hodgetwins Podcast - Hodgetwins & Jesse Lee Peterson Compare MODERN Blacks To The Black People of The JIM CROW Era...

Episode Date: September 26, 2025

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They just don't think straight. Yeah. And so. Well, Jesse, a lot of African, I mean, a lot of black Americans think we're kidnapped. I was like, man, I know white people are great, but they can't be that great. When they come to a continent and just start kidnapping people, they had some help. It is. It's amazing to me that black people think that white people are smarter than them.

Yeah. It wasn't that way when I was growing up. You know, as you know, I grew up in Alabama on a plantation under the gym colons. And black people used to be independent thinkers. They didn't have black leaders. They thought it did for themselves. Right. They bought land and just kind of did their own thing.

Yeah, right. It wasn't until the civil rights movement came along, which was the worst thing that ever happened to the blacks. The civil rights movement, other than abortion. They turned their lives over to Marlon and Tiki and Jackson and all those people. And it's been down here ever since. You should never, ever, ever have another person over you. Right.

As an adult, especially men, you're not supposed to have a leader. God is your only leader, right? But they put other people in charge of them, and they've been leading them down a path of destruction ever since. Yeah. And that's the primary problem. You've got to be able to think for yourself. You've got to. Yeah, because when I was raised, my mom was a Democrat.

It's like, that's the black thing to do. Right. It'd be Democrat. But then, like, when I got in my 30s and I just started, like, living my life and saying things for myself, I was like, wait a minute. This stuff is kind of crazy. Yeah. Kind of nuts over here on how they think on the left side when it comes to politics. Yeah, I grew up a Republican because when I was growing up, there was no Democrats that I was aware of.

Most black people were Republicans. And so it wasn't until I moved to L.A. at 18, I started listening to Jesse Jackson, Lewis Farrakhan, and all the crazy people. And they were telling me, the white man is against you because of your color. And being young, and I thought they were leaders. I fell for the lie. And then I finally realized I had been lied to, so I dropped the Democrat and went back to the Republican Party. That's the amazing reason why you switched to Republican because of the civil rights movement.

Yeah. I realized they were lying to me and that my issue was a spiritual issue, not physical. But they made us think that, and I had hatred for white people too. Once I listened to them, I didn't grow up like that. Yeah, I did too. Because my mom was showing us roots and all the black shows. I would go to school next day just looking at the white people

Right Right And it just I don't know It put a hatred in me I think over time it developed I gave me anxiety Yeah I saw a white person looking at me

Yeah I was like they're looking at me like that Because I'm a Negro Yeah You know Looking back on it That white woman Went to get with me

But my mama It fed me these lives They're white people against She white people against That is so true man Yeah I used to say that Anytime white people

Disagree with me At work or something I totally thought It was because I was black Yeah. Yeah. I just couldn't believe there's two people

just disagreeing. Yeah, you see things. It's not there. That is so true, man. And so finally I realized that, okay, if I'm black and white man holding me back, why is it that he's not holding

Jesse Jackson, his family back, Lewis Ferry, Canada, they were living in amazing homes and they had jobs and kids that have fathers and mothers. I'm like, why are they holding them back? And that's when I realized

I had been lied to. There's all the games. It's a hustle. And that's right. So I read the Republican platform and I'm like, I'm out of here. No more Democrat. Yeah. And I just turned away from now.

Yeah. And it's still true today. Look at all the celebrities and all the blacks just, you know, made a name for themselves. Whether it's in Hollywood or acting or in the music career, they're always bad-mouthed for Republicans. They're always bad-bred white people. Yeah. Because Hollywood, that whole line of work is ran by liberals.

Yeah. And Jews. So white people are afraid of the blacks. You can't blame them, Jesse. I know, yeah. They're so violent. You know what, Jesse? I'm scared of black folks.

Me too. You know? I wouldn't go to the hood. Yeah, I don't. I went to the hood a couple times. I said I ain't ever doing this again. Yeah. I have family member who live in the hood.

And I just call now. I used to go and visit sometimes. Yeah. Especially before the crime got so bad. It was really bad down in L.A. and the homeless situation. So I'm not, I don't really go to the hood. Yeah.

Yeah, like, I met my two black friends. Like, I got to a point where I just started judging black people differently because I started to notice a trend. Yeah. Like, I met Chris, he's a comedian. I say, this guy's a nice guy, I can tell he's. And Chris is black. Yeah, he's black.

Yeah, he's black. Both of the names are Chris. Oh, they are? Oh, okay. Nice. Yeah. They ran out of names, huh? I remember one time I was up in L.A. I got lost.

And I was in this ghetto area. I was like, oh, my God, you look at these Negroes over here. Yeah, watch is a scary place. Yeah, it is now. When I first moved to L.A., it wasn't that bad. What happened? Democrats. Yeah, Democrats.

Used to be a Republican state. The Mexicans moved in. And so there was a war going on between the blacks and the Mexican. over there. The Mexicans winning that. They're taking that land back. They are taking it. And so it just got just a mess over there right now. It's really bad.

When I first moved to LA, I worked in Watts for a while. That's not nice it was. Compton area. Right. But it's just gotten worse over the years. Yeah, what happened? Because I was looking some old pictures of Compton and Watts. You could actually see white people that used to live. Right. Yeah. But now it's all section 8 is like

really ghetto. But the Mexican They're running the blast out now. Yeah. Because they hate the blast, and the blacks hate them. It's supposed to be all Black Lives Matter, right? Not over there. That's a joke. Not over there.

You know what the one thing? You guys have white parents. Yeah. I have, well, my daddy was really light. My great, great-grandfather was for Marla. Yeah. Oh. So why do you guys have white people's eyes?

Because of him, probably. Oh, yeah? You know what's crazy. That is crazy My dad He got his eyes from his granddad And it came down through us And he was white

Yeah Yeah my dad was black He was really light though Yeah He looked like Don't see it It looked like black Elvis Like Elvis with a tan on

Right on Yeah We actually came from one of the biggest Plantations on the East Coast Called the Hurston Plantation Oh yeah Nice Really?

Amazing So when your master said he said, you said yes, a master? We sit. I'm glad I ain't grew up doing that time. Well, my master said, he said? I said, yes, a master? We sit. Hey, Jesse, explain to us what it was like growing up through the civil rights movement,

Jim Crow and all that. How was it for blacks? Before the civil rights movement, it was amazing. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you hear these stories that blacks and whites did not get along. That's not true. I'm sure you can find bad people at all groups, but we treated each other the way we would like to be treated.

When I saw white people, I treated them the same way. They treated me the same way they would do anyone. And it didn't change until... I do remember going to a movie theater once down to UFSA, Alabama. and the blacks are sitting in the balcony but I was a teenager not in mind because we had better view we could see better up there

but it still wasn't just animosity that we've been told my family owned land and the fact one of my aunt she and her husband they had like 15, 16, 17 children right maybe more and they own land they never had to work the fuels and things like that they only on property

and we did our own thing. It wasn't what you've been told that was like. That changed when the civil rights movement came along. We started to integrate with whites. When you force integration, that should have never happened. Blacks and white would have come together on their own. Those who agree and those who didn't agree, it would have happened naturally. But you can't force anyone to love you.

And they were trying to force the white people to accept the blacks. we were with a big mistakes. And so it's just been down here ever since. Back of those days, like blacks had everything. They had their own doctors, had their own transportation. Yeah. And did you see any ghettos that you see today? No ghettos, no violence, no crime.

Oh, look at those pictures. None of those things when I was growing up. It was unheard of for black people to kill one another or to fight one another. I grew up and I only had one fight in high school. and that was over a baseball bat. I thought we both were fighting over, we went on the baseball field. This guy thought it was this time

and I thought it was mine, and we were fighting over that. And that's about it. So it was no ghettos? No ghettos, no fighting. No crime at all. Yeah. No crime.

Nobody around me committed crime that I'm aware of at all. It was unheard of. It was totally different than it is today. So when you've seen like those, like there's been some moments in history that the civil rights movement like grabbed onto, embraced and used that to force integration, like what happened to Emmett Till, was it, McGregor? Yeah. Eggers down in, who's that, Mississippi? Yes. So you're saying like these types of incidents were like isolated?

Yes. Really? Poor, mega, they're going to use them to death. Yeah. Emmett Till, 100 years going by. They still are talking about Emmett Till. Right. That happened then, and we don't know the true story about that, what really happened.

They just kind of made up stuff to make it look like what they wanted it to look like so they can control the blacks. Something happened that we don't really know the whole detail. Right, yeah. I don't know. I can't remember what happened. I guess they said a bunch of white guys grabbed them and killed them and buried them or something like that. Yeah. I'm kind of ignorant on what happened.

I just remember that name. They said one of the guys looked at a white one. Yeah, Emmett Till. Yeah, that's the result. Looked at the white woman, they killed him. Now, I don't know how true that is. There's always more to discern than what you hear. Excuse me.

And because human beings are evil. Did you know human beings are evil? Oh, yeah. No, it's worse than what you can think. And because they're evil and they won't admit they're evil so they can overcome it, you know, you never know what the real truth is. Yeah, I mean, I look how evil the world is.

We go to school and they teach you to stand in line, be nice to your neighbor and this and that, don't cut line. Just little stuff like it in kindergarten. Like, just imagine if people wasn't taught how to be good, how evil everybody would be. You know what I mean? It's just an evil world we live in. I think it's naturally, it's like natural

inclination to be evil. You actually got to teach people to be good. But that doesn't work either. You really can't teach anyone to be good because think about it. Christianity is supposed to be a religion that teaches us to love one another and to be good. and have more life and live. Nobody is living up to that.

Right. Nobody. Right. And so even our parents who tried to teach us to be good, it just worked. No one has lived up to it. All the way you're going to be good

is that you've got to admit that you're evil. Yeah. And that's the hardest thing. Salvation of the heart. So God said that we got to admit that we're evil because anyone that has anger

is playing God. They think they know right for wrong They judge themselves and others They cannot be trusted God said never trust an angry person An angry person is an evil person And they are your enemy and do not trust them But when you admit that you're evil

Hey I'm evil I'm wrong And then you forgive your parents Because that's who did it's fake your mother And Oh yeah Don't give me stutter on women then you go and forgive your mother because all human beings hate their mothers

there's not one that doesn't I think I love mama mama mama's crazy mama's crazy she would have the bob in one hand and cut you out that's right

yeah yeah but when you forgive your mother males and female when you forgive your mother hey mother I'm sorry for resenting you I realize now you couldn't help yourself because you become just like your mother. Any man that has anger is a woman. He thinks, he reacts, he has emotion like a woman. He becomes like his mother because he become like what you hate. But when you go and forgive her for turning you away from your father, playing victim, impose her will,

I'm sorry for resenting you. God would forgive you and he would change your heart from anger to love. Then he changed that old nature from anger, from fear and doubt. and loneliness and insecurity and worry and suicidal thought, he would take all those things and give you his nature, then you'll be a perfect love and you will have perfect peace, and you have a perfect life. But you've got to return to the father. I never, like, embraced that idea that I'm African-American.

I always just thought I was black American. And what does it even mean to be two nationalities? Yes, all you doing is taking two nationalities, two ethnicities. You were born in America, so you're just a black American. There's nothing African about anybody that's black that was born in this country. As a matter of fact, if you're an American and you go over to Africa, they're not going to treat you like an African American. They're going to treat you like an American. Yeah.

They don't treat you the way that these black friends are intended. They do not do that. Yeah, they look at us like we're ancestors of slaves. That's right. They're not going to treat you well in African. Right. Not at all. I see a lot of these black people here in America, they dress African.

Are they mocked when they go to Africa When they dress like that? I'm sure they are Yeah Yeah I would have got it I would go to Africa But right now they It's too weird

Yeah They're like killing white people In South Africa Especially They've taken over South Africa And then the white people Moved out to their farmland And the blacks were going out there

Robbing and killing They're raping them as well Yeah So what's well It's the mother spirit Yeah. I started out, what's wrong with the blacks? So I got to ask.

So what I'm looking at you guys, I feel like when I look this way, I'm still looking that way. Right. Right. This is weird. Yeah. So I add, do y'all feel each other pain? No, no, none of that shit going on.

Meaning that if one are you out there somewhere and you're in trouble. Sometimes I have a ban. A premonition. A bad, a bad, Bob. I call them up and say, you okay? You can get no accidents. No, I'm ready to just looking at the TV. Sometimes it comes, but it hasn't, it hasn't, nothing's bad happening.

Yeah, we don't have, we don't have telepathic powers. So do y'all, like, get angry at each other times? Yeah, sometimes, yeah. Yeah, because doing, we work like five days a week and like 12 our days, so it gets stressful sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm sure you work long. long hours too. Oh yeah. I get up at three every morning and I'm at the office about

quarter to five and so I work all the time. That's why it's so hard to get me up here because I was just so busy. Right. And then the last time we were supposed to come, the fire thing happened. Yeah, the fires happen. Right. Right. Are you married at all? No. I've been engaged twice. I did it, the Black Way. The Black Way? What's the Blackway? I have made a child out of whether. Oh, you're a baby daddy. That's right. But, so I have a son and two grandkids, adult grandkids now.

And then my granddaughter got married, and she or her husband, have three sons. And so, I have a family. I just did it the black way. And I, I got engaged twice. But. Well, black women or? Yeah. Yeah. I, I never thought I would marry a white woman.

I didn't grow up thinking I wanted to be with a white woman though. But we all was about me with one of the white women. Yeah. You never dated a white woman? I have. What happened was when I was growing up, my uncles used to go up to New York and Florida for the summer. And they would come back and they were talking about the white woman. And I hope.

The white woman. And I was, I was young, you know, they were talking about the white woman. And the white woman, I don't know if I can say this on TV. Yeah,

you can probably say it. But the white woman were different than the black woman in bed. In bed? In bed. What did they say? What was the differences?

I can't. Go ahead. Go and say it. I'll put it this way. Go ahead. They would say things that the white women would do in bed, that black women would not

do. I found it to be 100% correct. Yeah. And so black women, they would never do those things, right? Right, right. And so I was like, wow, I'm going to get me a white woman. I'm telling you, these white women have sucked a soul out of you.

Yeah, white women is totally different. Yeah, but black women are like that now, though. Yeah, but I think we just had bad experience with the black woman we chose. I end up married a Mexican. You're married to a Mexican now? And how about you? Me too.

Mexican. She's a Mexican. She's a citizen now, so. She was an illegalian. No, she came illegally, but we had to go back to see that war is and get her papers off. She had to leave the country for about... She let a visa lapse or something?

Yeah, she had to stay and see that warrants about 30 days, and then they gave her papers and she came back. What? And you're Mexican from illegal to? She wasn't illegal. So do you guys speak Spanish? I've learned a little bit of Spanish. See, trying.

Galaxians. And so I moved to California, and I said, I'm going to go to junior college. Mm-hmm. Because... You're running a white woman? Yeah. That's why I went the only way I went. To get you a white woman?

Uh-huh. That's why I joined the military. Yeah, see? I arrest my case. I wouldn't be one of them white women. I heard that if you wanted a white woman, the best place to get one is in a college. Yeah, that was the best kind. Yeah.

And so I went to junior college, L.A. City College, to get me a white woman. Yeah. I could haul it path to SAT and get in there. You got to work for the white women. Right. Because I'm not a school person. I love school, but for fun, basketball and track and dating and stuff like that. So I got into L.A.C.

And I met a white girl. And it was true what they said. Yeah. And then as soon as I got, we're here, I dropped out of college. I literally dropped out. As soon as you got that white woman. Check that off your list. I can leave college.

Right. And I left, right in the middle of the session, I left. Yeah. Yeah. Because that's the only reason I had gone. It didn't take very long to get a white woman because white women love black men. Yeah. Right.

And so, and they feel sorry. for black men, I guess. Give me some, they're empathetic. Let me go give us something to this Negro life is hard for him. Let me give us some of that white privilege over here. That's right.

And so I did that and I dropped out of college. And that was the only white woman I was well. Because I had to find out it was true. And by that time black women started to change to, they were trying to act like white women in bed and everything. And so I got

engaged and I was dating a priest's woman, a daughter. And she thought she had got pregnant. She's like, oh, I'm pregnant. Oh, I'm too bad. And she's like, no, my dad, my family going to kill me. I'm like, but I'm not ready for marriage. And she was fine. Really?

Oh, God. Yeah. This girl was so fine. I used to have, at the time I worked for the hospital. Uh-huh. And I used to have her come up to the hospital. to have lunch with me, and I will walk her all over the husband. Everybody can see.

Just to do this round. He's bringing this woman around. But she saw she were pregnant, and then later she found out she wasn't her monthly thing was late, and she left because I would marry, so she left town. But she wanted to marry you, huh? Yeah. And then I got engaged one other time, and that relationship didn't work because, once I got engaged, because this woman was trying to control me.

She had like she wasn't controlled as long as we were dating. But once we got engaged, she wanted to control me. And I had bought her ring and everything. And then I'm like, look, you better cut it out. Nobody's going to control me. Cut it out, cut it out. Then she started being jealous or all that. So I said, okay, I'm done.

I got my ring back and call it on. And I got my money. Did she give it back? Did she give me my ring? Yeah, she gave it to me. And I got my money back. Yeah. And so.

Was she a black woman? Yes. She was black. You didn't get that rain back. No. Nowadays you are. You're probably going to get shot too. Because the men don't know how they get it back.

They're bait her. Yeah. They're afraid of the woman so they can't take it back. Hey, have you noticed, like, in our communities, like, I know you said black women changed over time. They want to act like white women and stuff. But have you noticed a trend with black women that are, like, very, very masculine? Yes.

Well, they're aggressive. It's so unfortunate. too. Yeah. And that's because they have not been raised by fathers. See that?

Yeah. Wow, yeah. That's crazy. He wouldn't even looking for that punch. That dude looked like he was drunk. I'll tell you.

It's unfortunate, though, because these women are lost. What do you think caused that? Because I don't see this in other races of people. They haven't had fathers in the last 70 years or so.

Yeah. Yeah. At least in my day, the fathers and grandfathers were there, and women would carry themselves, especially black women, in a different kind of way. And they were not like this. They respected themselves and others. There is no way that any woman that I know would have been acting like this in public.

They didn't act like that at home. That changed what the civil rights movement became long, and the government became the daddy of the famine, and they pushed the man out of the way. and the women, they stroke the woman on ego and told how she's a queen, how smart she is, how hard life is because she didn't have a man. And so the spirit of the mother

has been passed on generation and generation. And no father, this is what you're getting. And it's going to get worse before it get better if men don't change. When I see it, it's kind of funny a little bit, but it's sad. Yeah. Because these women are lonely,

they're lost, they're empty, they're yearning for a father. Yeah. And they look even to their boyfriends and husbands to be like a father to them to guide them, but the men don't have it either because they have not had a father to guide them. Right, right.

And so it's sad, really, to be honest. Yeah. Like this past election, like when Kamala lost, they tried to put this idea out there that black women are the most educated group of people in the country. I was like, as soon as I heard that, I knew that was a lot. Yes.

Yeah. Because they're using the women to promote the Democratic Party. They use them to bring in destructions. Yeah. And they're using them for personal gain. Gaslight them. And if you see, uh-huh. And you see like we have these black women in Congress and right.

But they're loud mouth. Jazz McGrath. Yeah. They just say anything. Women were not like that prior to the civil rights movement. Black women were amazed. They were respectful. Of course you could find some angry one, but they respected people, you know,

respect themselves. Black one used to be very classy. They did, very much. So to a point, honestly, when I was growing up, I thought that only white people sinned. I didn't even, I didn't know black people sin until I moved to the city and started seeing other stuff going on. But that's how respectful black people used to be. We never treated each other in the way we treat each other today. How do you feel about black people calling each other the N-word? When I was growing up, I didn't even know about that word.

Really? I only heard that word when I moved to the city. No one ever called each other that word. I didn't even hear that word for white people. Yeah. So it only became popular when I moved to the city that I started to hear. And when I first started hearing it, I just thought it was a black thing that they did. I didn't know it really was a bad word.

Yeah, well, we used to be like called my brother, my sister. there used to be a thing in a black community but now they can totally let that go and now we're just a bunch of niggas at each other Yeah, it's unfortunate because it's spiritual and it's evil The next generation of blacks are

going to be worse, they don't have a chance And at some point We all as individuals need to work on ourselves so that we can overcome that fallen state It starts so that God can pass love through us so that some generation at some point can start waking up

and stop treating each other and others in this way. Because it's evil. It's not good. Our battle is a spiritual battle. And if we don't start being serious about it, because these people are hurting, man. I counsel with some of these people, and they're miserable inside. And they think if you get money

or if you do this mess on camera, that's on YouTube now. They think that it's going to bring happiness and it doesn't. It doesn't, yeah. It doesn't bring it. Yeah. A lot of blacks want reparations.

Yeah. They want G-E-I-M-S. Yeah. And reparation and all that mess. Have you had a conversation with anybody, like, about repraisers, well, how much you want? Have anybody gave you a dollar figure yet? I had a couple friends that you're about three, four men.

I was like, well, rep race supposed to put you the same position as everybody else. Right. If you're going to pay it. Yeah. And average person got about maybe $20,000 in that bank. account. Right. On average.

Yeah. Why are you getting $4 million? You want to be a king. I know. Yeah. They can never give you a dollar figure.

Yeah. But it's just they're going by what their leaders are telling them. Yeah. They're not thinking of them to stuff

themselves. Yeah. They've been told by Max C. Waters, the Wicker, the West, which are the West, our shopping,

and all those guys. They'll be, they're doing this to the people and they're really the ones that are getting rich. They'll shop to fly around in a jet now. Right.

A private jet. You know what I mean? And that's come from pushing this raised stuff and affirmative action and all that kind of stuff. Gives him a job. Absolutely.

When I was raising my son the time I did have with him, I told him you got to work for yourself, buddy. You know, you got to be responsible from childhood. That's why I was raised. And as a result, he became very independent

when he got older. And I had to leave home at 18. but I was ready for it. I prepared for that. And black people used to do that. They prepared their children, especially boys to be responsible

when you become 18. Something got to be done about this. And it's up to the men, though. Yeah. Like when you was growing up for the Civil Rights Movement, there was no... How often did you see a black family having kids out of wedlock?

It was rare. Yeah. If a girl got pregnant out of the wedlock, the boys were afraid. We were afraid to make babies out of wedlock. because we would have to have a shotgun wedding. We would have to get married. But what happened if a girl did get pregnant,

she would have to lead town or go into hiding until she had that baby, right? You'd be like, where's made children? Well, she's up north because it was an embarrassment for black women to get pregnant out of wedlock. It was less than 10% of black baby were born out of wetline without growing up. And if she got pregnant, it would not. not married, she had to raise that baby. She had to take care of that baby. She didn't, the parents didn't do it, the grandparents, they helped out sometime, but she would

have to drop out of school and everything and raise her baby. And the women knew that, so they were less likely to have a baby. Right. Or get pregnant out with her. How about abortions? Unheard of. Unheard of. Unheard of.

Even if you had a retarded child, you know, sometimes they had a big watermelon head babies. You ever seen no big watermelon heads? You ever seen no big watermelon heads? I had a while in a head baby cousin. Oh, yes? How is she doing? They had the baby, and the baby just lived until the baby died. They didn't have, and they treated the baby well, but they don't live that long.

But they had the baby, they ended up having an abortion. They didn't go, oh, my baby's going to be retarded, so let's kill it in the womb. They had the baby, that's what they meant to be, and that's what they did. Black people used to be amazing people at one time. Really, I'm telling you. And I never imagined that one day it would get to this. It didn't look like that was possible. I didn't understand human nature at the time.

Do you think the problem that black people are having is, do you think that's systemic? I don't think it's like racism. I think it's the other side, you know, forcing our hand. I mean, I think that culture has been fit to us. I think black people have been conditioned to think this way, and this way that they're being thought is the wrong way. Yeah.

Number one, the sins of the parents. are being passed down to the generations after generating that anger, no unity anymore. And then you're right, they'll be used by the government, they'll be used by their black leaders, they'll be used by their so-called counselors and professional.

They're really using black people for personal gain. Yeah, that's why when they see us, they say we're sellouts. Right. Which when I don't know what we're supposed to do. Yeah. A contobbing a lot of black people live in ghettos, poverty,

you know, a lot A lot of blacks think that the reason why their neighborhoods is all ghettos because there was fed guns and drugs and the white man dropped it off there and that's why they live in ghettos. I was like, well, even if that's true, it doesn't mean you have to take the guns and shoot your brother or your sister or take these drugs. You still have a decision over your own fate. Why has everything got to be the white man's? I interviewed so many of the blacks and they said that, right?

Oh, the white man brought the drug into the neighborhood. So I'm like, did they make you take the drugs? Did they make you shoot that dude? Right. Let's say that they brought it. It's not true, but let's say that the white we brought the drug. They didn't tie you down and make you take the drug. Right.

You had to go buy the drugs. You had to go home and take the drugs. They don't seem to understand that though. Yeah. They claim everything bad does happen to black folks. Yeah. Because of the white man. Yeah.

That's a sad. way to live, right? What a sad way to do. They'll believe everything of the country going while black people are chasing them trying to get it and destroying it. Destroying what? Everything they're taxed. I'm black. I don't destroy everything I told you. Maybe one black that don't be, but most blacks do. No, most blacks do what? Destroy. Prove that. Who killed blacks, other blacks the most?

Blacks. And who kills other whites the most? Who turned night and no, no, no. No, no. No. No. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm giving you to prove. But no, but who kills other, what's the most? But that's intellectually dishonest. That's intellectually dishonest.

Who turned nice neighborhoods into hoods? Bad people. Who, uh-uh. Now you're changing. No. Who turned nice neighborhoods into hoods? A hood people. Who are those, who are people?

A hoodlums. I'm giving you a hint. It's a skin color, but what's the hint there? Which people are those? Isn't that amazing? Yeah. I remember when I first moved to L.A., I lived in South Central L.A. And over there in Crenshaw and Swaston area.

And it was beautiful. There were mostly white people on my street that I lived on it. The whole area was nice. Crenshaw High School, Manuel, really nice. And then the white people started to move out because the black were moving in. They said it's white. flight right what they call it

and it turned into a ghetto overnight really everything changed people didn't cut their grass they didn't paint their homes crime came in I saw that happen myself I had never seen anything like that

and then I remember going to Houston Texas once to do a talk and they took me on a little tour and they took me to a black neighborhood that used to be white and beautiful at one time and black people just sitting on the porch.

My mom used to do that. Go outside just sit on the porch. The neighborhood would fall apart. Yeah. And they were sitting on the porch. Yeah. Man, Mama said, come on, Keith and Kim.

Let's go sit on the porch. Yeah. Yeah. They end up painting a house. They're not cleaning yard. The neighborhood fall. I'm like, why don't they get out? didn't do something. Another thing

with Gary Indiana. I saw Gary and Fall Apart too. When I first moved there, it was beautiful. It was safe. White people had white people had white businesses everywhere. It was nice home. And a lot of the people from the South had moved to Gary.

And because they were raised differently, they bought homes and they taught their children, right? My mother and my stepfather had nine of us. So I had like seven sisters and five brothers, something like that. And my mother never had to work.

My stepfather took care of her. She stayed home. She would go grocery shopping. She would keep the house going and everything was fine. And then they elected the first black mayor in Gary, Indiana. And the very next day, really, not a week later. They had their election on a Tuesday? And I was going to Edison High School at the time.

And the very next day, all hell broke them. I was like, what the black people were fighting on the school bus. They were fighting in the hallway. They were attacking white people. They were fighting with them. And the white people left, right? The place turned into a ghetto overnight. And I was a witness to that.

And I had a white friend because I was afraid of the blacks. I wasn't accustomed to violent. You scared to the black students? I was scared of the black. Because I didn't grow up around violent black people, so I didn't know yet. I didn't understand. I was like the white people. I was scared of them.

So I had a white friend. And his family lived right across from Edison High School, they moved away in the middle of the night. I didn't even go ahead and tell my friend, Why? White people just moved. They left because children were getting beat up. Crying with everything. The mayor's name was Richard Hatchet or something like that. But you know what?

Just the Democrats and people on the left, they're like to paint this picture. The reason why these whites are leaving is because they're racist. No. No, they're moving up because they're scared. They're scared. Really? They all right. Property violence is going down.

Yeah. Absolutely. Value goes down. And Gary in Indiana used to be a beautiful town, man. I'm telling you. Downtown was amazing. You can go to the theater. You walk around and never been afraid of anything.

That changed. And now they have homes empty, just lands, acres and acres of empty apartments and home. Yeah. What you're described is what act is going on in Chicago right now. Yeah. Yeah, that place is going to fall hard one day. Yeah. It is.

Yeah. Unless a change come. So what can we do about it? You can't help them people. I mean look what happened in Detroit. Detroit used to be a great area. Yeah. Look at Detroit.

Yeah. Yeah, I have family members of friends and family members who moved to Detroit from Alabama. When to Detroit was booming. And they loved Detroit. And then Detroit changed and they moved back to Alabama. Yeah. Because we didn't grow up like that. Yeah.

I can't we grew up like white people. Right. We weren't, we didn't grow up in violence and killing each other and worried about walking down the road. We used to leave home and just, barely, we were closed the door, but not locked the door. And the family leave. You got to lock them doors, not just. Yeah, you got a lot.

You got double locks and security. Our people's going to come in there and take something. Yeah. So y'all married to Mexicans. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I tried a black woman.

I said, nope, never again. Really? Yep. Never again. Yeah, I started noticing. Tram, man. Jesse, the only woman I've dated. See, put your hands up.

Let's do this. What black? Was a black woman. I said, uh-uh. Yeah, I don't blame. Other races of women are just way more feminine. It's like I'm always in competition with a black woman. Like women, like, wanted to please you.

Yeah. They want to make you happy. It's like, nowadays, like a lot of black women, they're like, what are you going to do for me? It's all about them. But it was like that during the good old days. Black women wanted to please their man, their husband, their boyfriends, their everything. It changed, man. And I was a witness to the change.

Yeah, I think, I don't know like the black family structure has been destroyed, and once you destroy that, I don't think you could bring it back. I mean, there's going to be some black families out there that, you know, that do the right thing and their kids are going to be successful. But they're going to be in a minority. I don't think the problem that is hurting the black community. I don't think you can fix that. Not unless the Democrats and civil leaders changed their mindset and tell us the actual truth. Yeah, Democrats are not going to let that happen. They're going to keep them more where they can be dependent on them, I think.

Look how they fight in Donald Trump right now. Donald Trump is trying to make a smaller government so that people become more independent. They don't want that. They're fighting him like night and day because they don't want that. Yeah, during this last election, 96% of black women voted for Kamala.

That just shows you just how lost the black woman, the black community, because the black woman runs the black community now. And women run the Democratic Party. Look how wicked they've become. You know. You know? Got women, I mean, men and women's sports and got men and women's bathroom. Yeah.

The only reason why that is is because the wickedness of women. Yeah. They're very evil people. Yeah, and they help come through the women. That's why my country is never going to get better because they'll put women in leadership all over the place everywhere. Rarely do you see a man leading now. mostly women doctors

commercials government everything and God did not create the woman to lead and created the woman to follow and nothing else is going to work but the man lead and the women follow

that's the only one of the things I disagree with the great white hope about you know the great white hope Donald Trump all the way I disagree that he's putting women in leadership position yeah that a woman almost got him killed in Secret Service?

Yeah. He's very lucky to be alive right now. Well, I put, I don't think he should do that. He has a woman in charge of the borders. Right. She's something. I forgot where it is. Attorney General.

Yeah. Bondi. Right. And then she got all, all these men around her. I'm like, that doesn't look right. Do you think a woman could do in that because that's how a Republican going to win elections going forward. I thought that too.

I said, I bet you it's for because of election. Yeah, yeah. Because it looks like we're misogynistic, no woman's going to vote for a Republican, even if the Republican is right. Yeah. So they have to like, well, what's the word? You have to compromise.

Yeah, yeah. Do you think a conservative woman could be a good leader? No. No. No. No. No. No.

Not built for it. No, it's not in her. Yeah. Really. Mm. And she would. try but she's going to be stressed out. You say the wrong thing to her

at the wrong time. It goes against the nature. Yeah. Yeah. You're trying to make her be something that's not in her nature. No matter where she's conservative or Democrat or independent, whatever they want to call them. Call them himself, can you imagine yourself being

married to a woman to call herself a CEO? She'll be wearing the pants and out. She's going to make sure you know she's CEO. Yeah, CEO. It scares me every time I get, when I get put up by a cop, I just like, hope it's a white man. Yeah. I hope it's not a white woman.

And, man, I'm going to pray to God if it's not, if it's a black woman. Yeah. Because women like to overcompensate because they're women. It's like they got a chip on the silver. I remember once I got, years ago, I got pulled over by a white guy and a white woman. Mm-hmm. And the woman had the gun on me. Right.

Oh, Lord. She pulled a gun on you. I'm like, oh, Lord, not George, Lord. I was nervous because I thought, because I know how emotional women are. I didn't know if she's going to trip out. Yeah. And I was so glad when they asked for my license,

here you go. Yeah. I have no tickets. They didn't let me go, right? Yeah. But I was nervous that that woman were holding a gun on me. Yeah.

Really? Yeah. That was scary time. Yeah. Because women are too emotional. There's a new. Giveaway get out of the way. Woo!

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