Hodgetwins Podcast - Hodgetwins & Jesse Lee Peterson Have ALL KINDS Of BLACK FATIGUE!
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Hodge Twins
Hortas
Yeah
They just don't think straight
Yeah
And so
Well, Jesse, a lot of African
I mean a lot of black Americans think we were kidnapped
I was like man
I know white people are great
But they can't be that great
Where they come to a continent
And just start kidnapping people
They had some help
It is
It's amazing to me
That black people think that
White people are smarter than them
Yeah
It wasn't that way
I was growing up.
You know, as you know, I grew up in Alabama
on a plantation under the term of coal law.
And black people used to be independent thinkers.
They didn't have black leaders.
They thought it did for themselves.
Right.
They bought land and just kind of did their own thing.
Yeah, right.
It wasn't until the civil rights movement came along,
which was the worst thing that ever happened to the blacks.
The civil rights movement, other than abortion.
They turned their lives over to Marlon and King
and Jesse Jackson and all those people.
And it's been down here ever since.
You should never, ever, ever have another person over you.
Right.
As an adult, especially men.
You're not supposed to have a leader.
God is your only leader, right?
But they put other people in charge of them,
and they've been leading them down a path of destruction ever since.
Yeah.
And that's the primary problem.
You got to be able to think for yourself.
You got to.
Yeah, because when I was raised, my mom was a Democrat.
It's like, that's the black thing to do.
Right.
It'd be Democrat.
But then, like, when I got my 30,
and I just start, like, living my life
and saying things for myself.
I was like, wait a minute, this stuff is kind of crazy.
Yeah.
Kind of nuts over here on how they think on the left side
when it comes to politics.
Yeah, I grew up a Republican,
because when I was growing up,
there was no Democrats that I was aware of.
Most black people were Republicans.
And so it wasn't until I moved to L.A.
At 18, I started listening to Jesse Jackson,
Lewis Farrakhan, and all the crazy people.
And they were telling me, the white man is against you because of your color.
And being young and I thought they were leaders, I fell for the lie.
And then I finally realized I had been lied to, so I dropped the Democrat and went back to,
what went to the Republican Party.
That's the amazing reason why you switched to the Republican because of the civil rights movement.
Yeah.
I realized they were lying to me and that my issue was a spiritual issue, not physical.
Yeah.
But they made a state that, and I had hatred for white people too.
once I listened to them, I didn't grow up like that.
Yeah, I did too.
I did too, because my mom was showing his roots and all the black shows.
I would go to school next day just looking at the white people.
Right.
Right?
And it just, I don't know, it put a hatred in me.
I think over time it developed, I gave me anxiety.
If I saw a white person looking at me, I was like, they're looking at me like that because I'm a Negro.
Yeah.
You know?
Looking back on it, that white woman went to get with me.
But my mama had fed me these lives there, white people against you, white people against you.
That is so true.
man.
I used to think that anytime white people would disagree with me at work or something,
I totally thought it was because I was black.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just couldn't believe there's two people just disagreeing.
Yeah, you see things.
It's not there.
That is so true, man.
And so finally I realized that, okay, if I'm black and white man holding me back,
why is it that he's not holding Jesse Jackson, his family back,
Lewis Ferry, Canada.
They were living in an amazing home.
and they had jobs and kids have fathers and mothers and their home.
I'm like, why are they holding them back?
And that's when I realized I had been lied to.
It's all the games, the skills, a hustle.
And that's right.
So I read the Republican platform and I'm like, I'm out of here.
No more Democrat.
Yeah.
And I just turned away from now.
Yeah, and it's still true today.
Look at all the celebrities and all the blacks just, you know,
made a name for themselves, whether it's in Hollywood or acting or in the music career.
They're always bad-mouthed for public because they're always bad-mouthed white people.
Because Hollywood, that whole line of work is ran by liberals.
Yeah.
And Jews.
So white people are afraid of the blacks.
You can't blame, Jesse.
I know, yeah.
They're so violent.
You know what, Jesse?
I'm scared of black people.
Me too.
You know?
I want to go to the hood.
Yeah, I don't.
I went to the hood a couple times.
I said I ain't ever doing this again.
Yeah.
I have family member who live in the hood.
And I just call now.
to go over visit sometimes.
Yeah.
Especially before the crime got so bad.
It was really bad down in LA.
And the homeless situation.
So I'm not, I don't really go to the hood.
Yeah.
Yeah, like I met my two, my two black friends.
Like, I got to a point where I just started judging black people differently because I started
notice a trend.
Yeah.
Like I met Chris, he's a comedian.
I say, this guy's a nice guy.
I can tell he's.
And Chris is black.
Yeah, he's black.
Yeah, he black.
Both of the names are Chris.
Oh, there are?
Oh, okay.
Nice.
Yeah.
They ran out of names, huh?
What you're crazy, Jesse.
I remember one time I was up in L.A.
I got lost.
And I was in this ghetto area.
I was like, oh, my God, you look at these Negroes over here.
Yeah, watch is a scary place.
Yeah.
It is now.
When I first moved to L.A., it wasn't that bad.
What happened?
Democrats.
Yeah, Democrats.
Used to be a Republican state.
The Mexicans moved in.
And so there's a war going on between the blacks and the Mexicans over there.
The Mexicans winning that.
They're taking that land back.
They are taking it.
And so it just got just a mess over there right now.
Yeah.
It was really bad.
When I first moved to LA, I worked in Watts for a while.
Yeah.
That's how nice it was.
Compton area.
Right.
But it just gotten worse over the years.
Yeah, what happened?
Because I was leaking some old pictures of course.
Compton and Watson, you can actually see people, white people that used to live.
Right.
Yeah.
But now it's all, section 8 is like really ghetto.
But the Mexicans are running the blast out now.
Yeah.
Because they hate the blast and the blast ate them.
It's supposed to be all Black Lives Matter, right?
Not over there.
That's a joke.
Not over there.
You know what the one thing?
You got have white parents.
Yeah.
I have, well, my dad was really light.
My great, great grandfather was from Ireland.
Yeah.
Oh.
So why do you guys have white people's eyes?
Cause to him, probably.
Oh, yeah?
You know, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
My dad, he got his eyes from his granddad.
And it came down through us.
And he was white.
Yeah.
Yeah, my dad was black.
He was really light, though.
Yeah.
He looked like, don't see it.
It looked like Black Elvis.
Black Elvis with a tan on him.
Right on.
Yeah.
We actually came from one of the biggest plantations.
on the East Coast called the Hurston Plantation.
Oh, yeah?
Nice.
Really?
Amazing.
So when your master said he said, you said yes, a master?
We sit.
I'm glad I ain't grew up doing that time.
When my master said, he said, I said, yes, a master?
We sit.
Hey, Jesse, explain to us what it was like growing up during the civil rights movement, Jim Crow and all that.
was it for blacks?
Before the Civil Rights Movement, it was amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, you hear these story that blacks and whites did not get along?
That's not true.
I'm sure you can find bad people in our groups, but we treated each other the way we would
like to be treated.
When I saw white people, I treated them the same way.
They treated me the same way they would do anyone.
And it didn't change until, I do remember going to a movie theater.
once down in Ufaula, Alabama.
And the black sat down the city in the balcony.
But I was a teenager, not in mind because we had a better view.
We could see better up there.
But it still wasn't just animosity that we've been told.
My family owned land.
As a fact, one of my aunts, she and her husband, they had like 15, 16, 17 children, right?
Maybe more.
And they own land, they never had to work the fuels and things like that.
that, they owned it on property.
And we did our own thing.
It wasn't what you've been told that was like.
That changed when the civil rights movement came along.
We started to integrate with whites.
When you force integration, that should have never happened.
Blacks and white would have come together on their own.
Those who agree and those who didn't agree, it would have happened naturally.
But you can't force anyone to love you.
And they were trying to force the white people to accept the blacks.
we were with a big mistakes.
And so it's just been down here ever since.
Back of those days, like blacks had everything.
They had their own doctors, had their own transportation.
Yeah.
And did you see any ghettos that you see today?
No ghettos, no violence, no crime.
Oh, look at those pictures.
None of those things when I was growing up.
It was unheard of for black people to kill one another or to fight one another.
I grew up and I only had one fight in high school.
and that was over a baseball bat.
I thought we both were fighting over,
we went on the baseball field.
This guy thought it was this time
and I thought it was mine,
and we were fighting over that.
And that's about it.
So it was no ghettos?
No ghettos, no fighting.
No crime at all.
Yeah.
No crime.
Nobody around me committed crime that I'm aware of at all.
It was unheard of.
It was totally different than it is today.
So when you've seen like those, like there's been some moments in history that the civil rights movement like grabbed onto, embraced and used that to force integration, like what happened to Emmett Till?
Was it McGregor?
Yeah.
Eggers down in, who's that Mississippi?
Yes.
So you're saying like these types of incidents were like isolated?
Yes.
Really?
Poor, America, they're going to use them to death.
Yeah.
Emmett Till, 100 years going by.
They're talking about Emmett Till.
Right.
That happened then, and we don't know the true story about that, what really happened.
They just kind of made up stuff to make it look like what they wanted it to look like so they can control the blacks.
Something happened that we don't really know the whole detail.
Right, yeah.
I don't know.
I can't remember what happened.
I guess they said a bunch of white guys grabbed them and killed them and buried them or something like that.
I'm kind of ignorant on what happened.
I just remember that name.
They said one of the guys looked at a white one.
Yeah, Emmett Till.
Yeah, that's a result.
Looked at the white woman, they killed him.
Now, I don't know how true that is.
There's always more to discern than what you hear.
Excuse me.
And because human beings are evil.
Did you know human beings are evil?
Oh, yeah.
No, it's worse than what you can think.
And because they're evil and they won't admit they're evil
so they can overcome it, you know, you never know what the real truth is.
Yeah, I mean, I look how evil the world is.
We go to school and they teach you to standing line, be nice to your neighbor and this and that, don't cut in line.
Just little stuff like it in kindergarten.
Like, just imagine if people wasn't taught how to be good, how evil everybody would be.
You know what I mean?
It's just an evil world we live in.
I think it's naturally, it's a natural inclination to be evil.
You actually got to teach people to be good.
But that doesn't work either.
You really can't teach anyone to be good because think about it.
Christianity is supposed to be a religion that teaches us to love one another and to be good.
and have a more life and live.
Nobody is living up to that.
Right.
Nobody.
Right.
And so even our parents
who tried to teach us to be good,
it didn't work.
No one has lived up to it.
All the way you're going to be good
is that you've got to admit
that you're evil.
Yeah.
And that's the hardest thing.
Salvation of the heart.
So God said that we got to admit
that we're evil
because anyone that has anger
is playing God.
They think they know right for wrong
They judge themselves and others
They cannot be trusted
God said never trust an angry person
An angry person is an evil person
And they are your enemy and do not trust them
But when you admit that you're evil
Hey I'm evil or wrong
And then you forgive your parents
Because that's who did it especially your mother
And
Don't give me start of women
then you go and forgive your mother
because all human beings hate their mothers
there's not one that doesn't
I think I love mama
mama mama's crazy
mama's crazy
she would have the bob in one hand and cuss you out
that's right
yeah yeah but when you forgive your mother
males and female when you forgive your mother
hey mother I'm sorry for resenting you
I realize now you couldn't help yourself
because you become
just like your mother. Any man that has anger is a woman. He thinks, he reacts, he has emotion
like a woman. He becomes like his mother because he become like what you hate. But when you go and
forgive her for turning away from your father, playing victim, impose her will, I'm sorry for
resenting you. God will forgive you and he would change your heart from anger to love. Then he changed
that old nature from anger, from fear and doubt.
and loneliness and insecurity and worry and suicidal thought,
he would take all those things and give you his nature,
then you'll be a perfect love and you will have perfect peace,
and you have a perfect life.
But you've got to return to the father.
I never, like, embraced that idea that I'm African-American.
I always just thought I was black American.
And what does it even mean to be two nationalities?
Yes, all you doing is taking two nationalities, two ethnicities.
You were born in America, so you're just a black American.
There's nothing African about anybody that's black that was born in this country.
As a matter of fact, if you're an American and you go over to Africa, they're not going to treat you like an African American.
They're going to treat you like an American.
Yeah.
They don't treat you the way that these blacks are not pretending.
They do not do that.
Yeah, they look at us like we're ancestors of slaves.
That's right.
They're not going to treat you well in African.
Right.
Not at all.
I see a lot of these black people here in America, they dress African.
Are they mocked when they go to Africa
When they dress like that?
I'm sure they are
Yeah
Yeah I would go to Africa
But right now they
It's too weird
Yeah
They're like killing white people
In South Africa especially
They've taken over South Africa
And then the white people moved out to their farmland
And the blacks were going out there
Robbing and killing and raping them as well
Yeah
So what's well
It's the mother spirit
Yeah
I started out, what's wrong with the blacks?
So I got to ask.
So what I'm looking at you guys, I feel like when I look this way, I'm still looking that way.
Right.
Right.
This is weird.
So I add, do y'all feel each other pain?
No, no.
None of that shit going on.
Meaning that if one of you are out there somewhere and you're in trouble.
Sometimes I have a ban.
A premonition?
A privilege and a bad, I called them up and say, you okay?
You can get no accident.
No, I'm ready to just looking at the TV.
Sometimes it comes, but it hasn't, it hasn't, nothing's bad happening.
Yeah, we don't have, we don't have, telepathic powers.
So do y'all, like, get angry at each other times?
Yeah, sometimes, yeah.
Yeah, because doing, we work like five days a week and like 12 out of days, so it gets stressful sometimes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because I'm sure you work long hours, too.
Oh, yeah.
I get up at three every morning, and I'm at the office about quarter to five, and so I work all the time.
That's why it was so hard to get me up here because I was just so busy.
Right.
And then the last time we were supposed to come, the fire thing happened.
Yeah, the fires happen.
Right.
Are you married at all?
No.
I've been engaged twice.
I did it, the Black Way.
The Black Way?
What's the Blackway?
I have a child out of weather.
Oh, you're a baby daddy.
That's right.
But, so I have a son and two grandkids, adult grandkids now.
And then my granddaughter got married and she or her husband had three sons.
And so I have a family.
I just did it the black way.
And I got engaged twice.
But.
Well, black women or?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I never thought I would marry a white woman.
I did grow up thinking I wanted to be.
be with a white woman though
but we all
was about me one of them
white women
yeah
because what
the white woman
I had
what happened was
when I was growing up
my uncles
used to go up
to New York
in Florida
for the summer
and they would come back
and they were talking
about the white woman
and I hope
the white woman
and I was
I was young
you know
talking about the white woman.
Yeah.
And the white woman, I don't know if I can say this on TV.
Yeah, you can probably say it.
But the white woman were different than the black woman in bed.
In bed?
In bed?
What did they say?
What was the differences?
I can't.
Go on say it.
I'll put it this way.
Go ahead.
They would say things that the white women would do in bed that black women would not do.
I found that to be 100% correct.
Yeah.
And so black women, they would never do those things, right?
Right, right.
And so I was like, wow, I'm going to get me a white woman.
I'm telling you, these white women have sucked a soul out of you.
Yeah, white women is totally different.
Yeah, but black women are like that now, though.
Yeah, but I think we just had bad experience with the black woman we chose.
I end up marrying a Mexican.
You're married to a Mexican now?
And how about you?
Me too.
The Mexican.
She goes to Mexico.
She's a citizen now.
She was an illegal.
No, she came illegally, but we had to go back to see that war is and get her papers off.
She had to leave the country about...
She let a visa lapse or something?
Yeah, she had to stay and see that warrants about 30 days, and then they gave her papers
and she came back.
What?
And you're a message coming from illegal to?
She wasn't illegal.
So do you guys speak Spanish?
I've learned a little bit of Spanish
See
Try
And so
So I moved to California
And I said
I'm gonna go to junior college
Because
You're running a white woman
Yeah
That's why I went
The only way I went
To get you a white woman
Uh huh
That's why I joined the military
I see you
I risk my case
I wouldn't be one of them white women
I heard that if you wanted a white woman
The best place to get one is in a
college.
Yeah, that was the best kind.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so I went to junior college, L.A. City College, to get me a white woman.
Yeah.
I could haul and pad to SAT and get in there.
You got to work for the white women.
Right.
Because I'm not a school person.
Right, right.
I love school, but for fun, basketball and track and dating and stuff like that.
So I got into L.A. City.
And I met a white girl.
And it was true what they said.
Yeah.
And then as soon as I got with her, I dropped out of college.
I literally dropped out.
So as you got that white woman.
Check that off your list.
I can leave college.
Right.
And I left, right in the middle of the session.
I left.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because that's the only reason I had gone.
And it takes very long to get a white woman called white women love black men.
Yeah.
Right.
And so they feel sorry for black men, I guess.
Give me some.
They're empathetic.
Right.
Let me go give us some to this Negro.
Life is hard for him.
Let me give us some of that white privilege over here.
That's right.
And so I did that and I dropped out of college.
And that was the only white woman I was well.
Because I found out it was true.
And by that time, black women start to change through.
They were trying to act like white women in bed and everything.
And so I got engaged.
And I was dating a priest's woman.
a daughter.
And she thought she had gotten pregnant.
She's like, oh, I'm pregnant.
I'm too bad.
And she's like, no, my dad, my family going to kill me.
I'm like, but I'm not ready for marriage.
And she was fine.
Really?
Oh, God.
Yeah.
This girl was so fine.
I used to have, at the time I worked for the hospital,
and I used to have her come up to the hospital to have lunch with me,
and I would walk her all over the hospital.
All, everybody is seeing.
Just to do this round.
He's bringing this woman around.
But she saw she were pregnant,
and then later she found out she wasn't her monthly thing.
They were late.
And she left because I went married, so she left town.
But she wanted to marry you, huh?
Yeah.
And then I got engaged one other time,
and that relationship didn't work because once I got engaged,
because this woman was trying to control me.
She had like she wasn't controlled as long.
We were dating.
But once we got engaged, she wanted to control me.
And I had bought her ring and everything.
And then I'm like, look, you better cut it out.
Nobody's going to control me.
Cut it out, cut it out.
And then she started being jealous or all that.
So I said, okay, I'm done.
I got my ring back and called it on.
And I got my money.
Yeah.
Did she give it back or did you?
That's what, hey, give me my ring.
Yeah, she gave it to.
And I got my money back.
Yeah.
And so.
Was she a black woman?
Yes.
She was black.
You didn't get that rain back.
No.
Nowadays you want.
You're probably going to get shot too.
Because the men don't know how they get it back.
They're bait her.
Yeah.
They're afraid of the woman so they can't take it back.
Hey, have you noticed, like, in our communities, like, I know you said black women
changed over time.
They want to act like white women and stuff.
But have you noticed a trend with black women that're, like, very, very masculine?
Yes.
Well, they're aggressive.
It's so unfortunate, too.
Yeah.
And that's because they have not been raised by fathers.
See that?
Yeah.
Wow, yeah.
That's crazy.
He wouldn't even looking for that punch.
That dude looked like he was drunk.
I'll tell you.
It's unfortunate, though, because these women are lost.
What do you think caused that?
Because I don't see this in other races of people.
They haven't had fathers in the last 70 years or so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
At least in my days, the fathers and grandfathers were there.
and women would carry themselves, especially black women,
in a different kind of way.
And they were not like this.
They respected themselves and others.
There is no way that any woman that I know
would have been acting like this in public.
They didn't act like that at home.
That changed once the civil rights movement became long,
and the government became the daddy of the famine,
and they pushed the man out of the way.
And the women, they stroked the woman ego and told how she's a queen,
how smart she is, how hard life is because she didn't have a man.
And so the spirit of the mother has been passed on generation and generation.
And no father, this is what you're getting.
And it's going to get worse before it get better if men don't change.
When I see it, it's kind of funny a little bit, but it's sad.
Yeah.
Because these women are lonely.
They're lost.
They're empty.
They're yearning for a father.
Yeah.
And they look even to their boyfriends and husbands to be like a father to them to guide them,
but the men don't have it either because they have not had a father to guide them.
Right.
And so it's sad, really, to be honest.
Yeah.
Like this past election, like when Kamala lost,
they tried to put this idea out there that black women are the most educated group of people in the country.
I was like, as soon as I heard that, I knew that was a lot.
Yes.
Yeah.
Because they're using the women to promote the Democratic Party.
party. They use them to bring in
destructions. Yeah. And they're using them for personal gain.
Gaslighting them. And if you see, uh-huh. And you see
like you have these black women in Congress and right. But they're loud mouth.
Jazz McLaugh. Yeah. They just say anything.
Women were not like that prior to the civil rights movement.
Black women were amazed. They were respectful. Of course,
you could find some angry one. But they respected people, you know.
They respect themselves.
Black one used to be very classic.
They did very much.
So to a point, honestly, when I was growing up,
I thought that only white people sinned.
I didn't even, I didn't know black people sinned
until I moved to the city and started seeing other stuff going on.
But that's how respectful black people used to be.
We never treated each other in the way we treat each other today.
How do you feel about black people calling each other the N-word?
When I was growing up, I didn't even know about that word.
Really?
I only heard that word when I moved to the city.
No one ever called each other that word.
I didn't even hear that word for white people.
So it only became popular when I moved to the city
and I started to hear.
And when I first started hearing it,
I just thought it was a black thing that they did.
I didn't know it really was a bad word.
Yeah, well, we used to be like call my brother, my sister.
There used to be a thing in the black community,
but now they could slowly let that go,
and now we're just a bunch of niggas to each other.
Yeah.
It's unfortunate because it's spiritual and it's evil.
The next generation of blacks are going to be worse.
They don't have a chance.
And then at some point, we all as individuals need to work on ourselves
so that we can overcome that fallen state.
It starts so that God can pass love through us
so that some generation at some point can start waking up
and stop treating each other and others in this way.
Because it's evil.
Good.
I would battle as a spiritual battle.
And if we don't start being serious about it,
because these people are hurting, man.
I counsel with some of these people,
and they're miserable inside.
And they think if you get money
or if you do this mess on camera,
they're on YouTube now,
they think that it's going to bring happiness
and it doesn't.
It doesn't bring it.
Yeah, a lot of blacks are men.
A lot of blacks phone reparations.
Yeah, they want D-E-I-M-S
and reparation
and all that mess.
Have you had a conversation with anybody
like about rep raises
well how much you want?
Have anybody gave you a dollar figure yet?
I had a couple friends that you're about three, four million.
I was like, well,
rep race supposed to put you the same position
as everybody else.
Right.
If you're going to pay it.
And average person got about maybe
$20,000 in that bank account.
Right.
On average.
Yeah.
Why are you getting $4 million?
You want to be a king.
I know.
Yeah.
They can never give you a dollar figure.
Yeah.
But it's just
They're going by what their leaders are telling them.
Yeah, yeah.
They're not thinking of them to stuff themselves.
Yeah.
They have been told by Maxine Waters, the Wicke, Wicked and the West,
the Air Stopping and all those guys.
They'll be, they're doing this to the people,
and they're really the ones that are getting rich.
They'll shopped and fly around in a jet now.
Right.
A private jet.
You know what I mean?
And that's come from pushing this raised stuff and affirmative action and all that kind of stuff.
Gives them a job.
Absolutely.
When I was raising my son, the time I did have with him, I told him you got to work for yourself, buddy.
You know, you got to be responsible for childhood.
That's why I was raised.
And as a result, he became very independent when he got older.
And I had to leave home at 18, but I was ready for it.
I prepared for that.
And black people used to do that.
They prepared their children, especially boys, to be responsible when you, because.
18, something got to be done about this, you know, and it's up to the men, though.
Yeah.
Like, when you was growing up for the Civil Rights Movement, there was no, how often did you see
a black family having kids out of wedlock?
It was rare.
Yeah.
If a girl got pregnant out of wedlock, the boys were afraid, we were afraid to make babies
out of wedlock because we would have to have a shotgun wedding.
We would have to get married.
But what happened if a girl did get pregnant, she would have to lead town or go into
hiding until she had that baby, right?
You'd be like, where's made children?
Well, she's up north.
Because it was an embarrassment
for black women to get pregnant
out of the wetline.
It was less than
10% of black baby were born out of
a wetlock when I was growing up.
And if she got pregnant
and was not married, she had to raise that baby.
She had to take care of that
baby. The parents
didn't do it. The grandparents, they
helped out sometime, but she would have
and drop out of school and everything and raise her baby.
And the women knew that, so they were less likely to have a baby.
Right.
Abortions.
How about abortions?
Unheard of.
Unheard of.
Unheard of.
Even if you had a retarded child, you know, sometimes they had a big watermelon-haired baby.
You ever seen no big watermelon.
Yeah, I've seen them a couple times, yeah.
I had a watermelon-haired baby cousin.
Oh, yeah?
How is she or he doing?
They had the baby, and the baby just,
lived until the baby died.
They treated the baby well,
but they don't live that long.
But they had the baby,
they ended up having abortion.
They didn't go, oh, my baby's going to be retarded,
so let's kill it in the womb.
They had the baby, that's what we were meant to be,
and that's what they did.
Black people used to be amazing people
at one time. Really, I'm telling
you. And I never
imagine that one day it would get
to this. It didn't look like that was
possible. I didn't understand. I didn't understand
human nature at the time.
Do you think the problem the black people are having
is, do you think that's systemic?
I don't think it's like racism. I think it's the
other side, you know, forcing
our hand. I mean, I think that culture has been
fit to us. I think black people have been conditioned to think this way,
and this way that they're being taught
is the wrong way. Yeah. Number one,
the sins of the parents are being passed out
to the generations. I can generate
that anger. No unity anymore.
And then you're right. They'll be used by
the government. They'll be used.
used by their black leaders.
They'll be used by their so-called
counselors and professional. They'll
really using black people for
personal games. Yeah, that's why when they see us,
they say we're sellouts. Right.
Because I don't know what we're supposed to do.
Yeah.
A lot of black people
live in ghettos.
Poverty.
You know, a lot of blacks think that
the reason why
their neighborhoods is all ghetto is because
there was fed guns and drugs
and the white man dropped it off
there and that's why they live in ghettos.
I was like, well, even if that's
true, it doesn't mean you have to
take the guns and shoot your brother
or your sister or take these drugs.
You still have a decision
over your own fate. Why has everything got
to be the white man's? I interviewed so many
the black men they said that, right? Oh, the white
man brought the drug into the neighborhood.
So I'm like, did they make you
take the drug?
Did they make you
shoot that dude? Right.
Let's say that they brought
it's not true, but let's say that
the white, we brought the drug. They didn't
tie you down and make you take the drug.
You had to go buy the drugs,
you had to go home and take the drugs.
They don't seem
to understand that though. Yeah.
They claim everything
bad does happen to black folks. Yeah,
because of the white men. Yeah.
That's a sad way to live, right?
What a sad way to live.
They'll believe in everything.
The country going while black people are chasing them
trying to get it and destroying it.
Destroying what?
Everything in touch.
I'm black.
I don't destroy everything I told you.
You made me one black that don't be, but most blacks do.
No, most blacks do what?
Destroy.
Prove that.
Who killed blacks, other blacks the most?
Blacks.
And who kills other whites the whites?
No, no, no, no, no.
No, no.
No.
No.
Oh, I'm giving you to prove.
But who kills other whites the most.
But that's intellectually dishonest.
That's intellectually dishonest.
That's intellectually dishonest.
into hoods.
Bad people.
Who, uh-uh, now you're changing.
No.
Who turned nice neighborhoods into hoods?
A hood people.
Who are those, who are people?
A hoodlums.
I'm giving you a hint.
It's a skin color, but what's the hint there?
Who are which people are those?
Isn't that amazing?
Yeah.
I remember when I first moved to L.A., I lived in South City, L.A.
and over there in Crenshaw and Slotson area
and it was beautiful
there were mostly white people on my street
that I lived on it
the whole area was nice
Crenshaw High School
manual, really nice
and then the white people started to move out
because the black were moving in
and it's they said it's white flight
right they call it
and it turned into a ghetto
overnight really
everything changed the people didn't cut their
grass they didn't paint their homes
crime came in.
I saw that happen myself,
but I had never seen anything like that.
Right.
And then I remember going to
Houston, Texas once to do a talk.
And they took me on a little tour,
and they took me to a black neighborhood
that used to be white and beautiful at one time.
And black people just sitting on the porch.
My mom used to do that.
Go outside just sit on the porch.
The neighborhood followed apart.
Yeah.
And they were sitting on the porch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Man, I remember being a little cave mom.
Mama said, come on, Keith and Kevin.
Let's go sit on the porch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They did not paint the house.
They're not cleaning the yard.
The neighborhood fall.
I'm like, why don't they get out there and do something?
Another thing is with Gary Indiana.
I saw Gary Anna and him fall apart, too.
When I first moved there, it was beautiful.
It was safe.
White people had.
white businesses everywhere.
It was a nice home.
And a lot of the people from the South had moved to Gary.
And because they were raised differently, they bought homes and they taught their children, right?
My mother and my stepfather had nine of us.
So I had like seven sisters and five brothers, something like that.
And my mother never had to work.
My stepfather took care of her.
She stayed home.
She would go grocery shopping.
She would keep the house going, and everything was fine.
And then they elected the first black mayor in Gary, Indiana.
And the very next day, really, not a week later.
They had their election on a Tuesday.
And I was going to Edison High School at the time.
And the very next day, all hell broke them.
I was like, what?
the black people were fighting on the school bus.
Right.
They were fighting in the hallway.
They were attacking white people.
They were fighting with them.
And the white people left, right?
The place turned into a ghetto overnight.
And I was a witness to that.
And I had a white friend because I was afraid of the blacks.
I wasn't a custom to buy it.
You scared of the blacks, too?
I was scared of the blacks.
because I didn't grow up around violent black people,
so I didn't know yet.
I didn't understand it.
I was like the white people.
I was scared of them.
So I had a white friend.
And his family read across from Edison High School,
they moved away in the middle of the night.
I didn't even go to tell my friend, bye.
White people just moved.
They left because children were getting beat up.
Crying with everything.
The mayor's name.
It was Richard Hatchett or something like that.
But you know what, just the Democrats and people on the left,
they're like to paint this picture.
The reason why these whites are leaving is because they're racist.
No.
They're moving up because they're scared.
They're scared.
Really?
They are.
Property violence is going down.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Value goes down.
And Gary in Indiana used to be a beautiful town, man.
I'm telling you.
Downtown was amazing.
You could go to the theater.
You walk around and never been afraid of anything.
that changed.
And now they have homes empty,
just lands,
acres and acres of empty apartments and their own.
Yeah,
what you're described as what actually
is going on in Chicago right now.
Yeah.
Yeah, that place is going to fall hard one day.
Yeah.
It is.
Yeah.
Unless a change comes and with a real.
So what can we do about it?
You can't help them people.
I mean, look what happened in Detroit.
Detroit used to be a great area.
Yeah.
Look at Detroit.
Yeah.
Yeah, I have family members of friends.
And family member who moved to Detroit from Alabama, when Detroit was booming.
And they loved Detroit.
And then Detroit changed, they moved back to Alabama.
Yeah.
Because we didn't grow up like that.
I can't we grew up like white people.
Right.
We didn't grow up in violence and killing each other and worried about walking down the road.
We used to leave home and just barely, we were close the door but not locked the door.
And the family leave.
You got to lock them doors, not just.
Yeah, you got to lock them doors.
You got double locks and security.
How people's going to come in there and take something.
Yeah.
So y'all married to Mexicans.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I tried a black woman.
I said, nope, never again.
Really?
Never again.
Y'all started to know it's a train, man.
Jesse, the only woman I've dated.
See, put your hands up.
Let's do this.
What's black?
Was a black woman.
I said, uh-uh.
Yeah.
I don't blame.
Other races of women are just way more feminine.
It's like I'm always in competition with a black woman.
Like other, like, women, like, wanted to please you.
Yeah.
They want to make you happy.
It's like, nowadays, like, a lot of black women, they're like, what are you going to do for me?
It's all about them.
But it was like that during the good old days.
Black women wanted to please their man, their husband, their boyfriends, their everything.
It changed, man.
And I was a witness to the change.
Yeah, I think, I don't know, like, the black family structure has been destroyed.
And once you destroy that, I don't think you could bring it back.
I mean, that's going to be some.
Black families out there that, you know, that do the right thing and their kids are going to be successful.
But they're going to be in a minority.
I don't think the problem that is hurting the black community.
I don't think you can fix that.
Not unless the Democrats and civil leaders change their mindset.
And tell us the actual truth.
Yeah, Democrats are not going to let that happen.
They're going to keep them more where they can be dependent on them, I think.
Look how they fight in Donald Trump right now.
Donald Trump is trying to make a smaller government so that people become more independent,
They don't want that.
They're fighting him like night and day
because they don't want that.
During this last election,
96% of black women voted for Kamala.
That just shows you just how lost
the black woman, the black community,
because the black woman runs the black community now.
And women run the Democratic Party.
Look how wicked they've become.
You know.
You know, got women, I mean, men and women sports
and got men and women's bathroom.
The only reason why that is
is because of wickedness of women.
Yeah.
It's very evil people.
Yeah, and they help come through the women.
That's why my country is never going to get better
because they'll put women in leadership
all over the place everywhere.
Rarely do you see a man leading now.
There's mostly women, doctors, commercials, government,
everything.
And God did not.
create the woman to lead.
He created the woman to follow.
And nothing else is going to work,
but the man lead and the women follow.
That's the only one of the things
I disagree with the Great White Hope about.
You know the Great White Hope.
Donald Trump.
All the way.
I disagree that he's putting women in leadership position.
Yeah.
A woman almost got him killed in Secret Service?
Yeah.
He's very lucky to be alive right now.
Well, I put, I don't think he should do that.
He has a woman in charge of the borders.
She's something.
I forgot where it is.
Attorney General?
Attorney General?
Yeah.
Bondi.
Right.
And then she got all these men around her.
I'm like, that doesn't look right.
Do you think a woman could do in that because that's how a republic is going to win elections going forward?
I thought that too.
I said, I bet you're for it because of election.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because it looks like we're misogynistic, no woman's going to vote for a Republican, even if the Republican is right.
Yeah.
So they have to like, well, what's the word?
You have to compromise.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you think a conservative woman could be a good leader if she's a conservative Christian woman?
No.
No.
Not built for it.
No, it's not in her.
Yeah.
Really.
And she would try, but she's going to be stressed out.
Yeah.
You say the wrong thing to her at the wrong time?
It goes against the nature.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're trying to make her be something that's not in her nature.
Right.
No matter where she's conservative or Democrat or independent, whatever they want to call them.
Call them himself, can you imagine yourself being married to a woman to call herself a CEO?
I don't know.
She'll be wearing pants now.
She's going to make sure you know she's CEO.
Yeah.
It scares me every time I get, when I get put up by a cop, I just like, hope it's a white.
man. I hope it's not a white woman. And man, I'm gonna pray to God if it's not a, if it's a black
woman. Because women like to overcompensate because they're women. It's like they got a chip
on the silver. I remember once, I got years ago, I got pulled over by a white guy and a white
woman. And the woman had the gun on me. Oh, God. Oh, Lord. She pulled a gun on you. I'm like,
oh, Lord, not George, Lord.
Yeah, I was nervous because I thought, because I know how emotional women are.
I didn't know if she's going to trip out.
Yeah.
And I was so glad when they asked for my license, here you go.
Yeah.
I have no tickets.
They didn't let me go, right?
Yeah.
But I was nervous that that woman was holding a gun on me.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
That was scary time.
Yeah.
Because women are too emotional.
