Hodgetwins Podcast - Hodgetwins & Jesse Lee Peterson Meet For The FIRST TIME | Twins Pod - Episode 57 - Jesse Le Peterson

Episode Date: March 21, 2025

Jesse Lee Peterson is a legend. Y'all have been waiting for us to have him on for a long time, and here he is! We talking about black culture, what it was like for him growing up under Jim Crow, a...nd how he is helping men regain their manhood. He also shares many personal stories that you might have never heard him tell before...Join this channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdg/joinGet your Twins merch and have a chance to win our Ford Raptor & 10K in cash - https://officialhodgetwins.com/Get Optimal Human, your all in one daily nutritional supplement - https://optimalhuman.com/Want to be a guest on the Twins Pod? Contact us at bookings@twinspod.comDownload Free Twins Pod Content - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_iNb2RYwHUisypEjkrbZ3nFoBK8k60COFollow Twins Pod Everywhere -X - https://twitter.com/TheTwinsPodInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/thetwinspod/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/twinspodTikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@twinspodYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdgRumble - https://rumble.com/c/TwinsPodSpotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/79BWPxHPWnijyl4lf8vWVu?si=03960b3a8b6b4f74Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/twins-pod/id1731232810This video was conducted on behalf of American Tungsten , and was funded by Gold Standard Media LLC and/or affiliates. For our full disclaimer, please visit: https://portal.goldstandardir.com/dis...Go to https://americantungstencorp.com/05:35 - LA Fires And Newsum08:00 - Black People In America And Jesse's History15:31 - Jesse Lee Grew Up During Jim Crow19:17 - Controlling Anger And Evil23:14 - All Women Are Evil? Adam & Eve31:08 - Getting Over Anger36:27 - Jesse Lee Is Single & White Women Vs Black Women43:02 - Black Women Are Manly52:32 - Always Blaming The Whiteman59:01 - What Do We Do About Black People?1:02:19 - Women Should Not Be In Leadership Positions1:07:00 - Do You Create Your Own Thoughts?1:14:58 - You Have Never Had An Original Thought In Your Whole Life...1:19:49 - Jesse Lee Peterson Is Helping Everyone Across The World1:26:21 - MILK Was A Mess?1:29:31 - Jesse Lee Peterson's Origin Story1:35:57 - Gay Pastor?1:42:49 - Women Voting & Child Support1:51:29 - Religion1:56:30 - Christ Is King

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We got Jesse Lee Peterson in the house. Amazing. Y'all like white people? I like the conservative white people. Oh, you know? Not the liberal. Yeah, the liberal white people is just as bad as the blacks. What's wrong with the blacks?
Starting point is 00:00:13 I don't hire black people with black names. I saw y'all have one black working for you. No, I got two black people. Oh, yeah, he's black. He's black. Black people think that white people are smarter than them. It wasn't that way when I was growing up. I grew up in Alabama.
Starting point is 00:00:30 on a plantation under the Jim Crow Law. And black people used to be independent thinkers. They didn't have black leaders. They thought it did for themselves. They bought land and just kind of did their own thing. It wasn't until the civil rights movement came along, which was the worst thing that ever happened to the blacks. Because when I was growing up, most black people were Republicans.
Starting point is 00:00:52 At 18, I started listening to Jesse Jackson, Lewis Farrakhan, and all the crazy people. And they were telling me, the white man is against. you because of your color, I fell for the lie. And so finally, I realized that, okay, if I'm black and white man holding me back, why is it that he's not holding Jesse Jackson, his family back? And that's when I realized I had been lied to. White people are afraid of the blacks. You can't blame, Jesse.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I know, yeah. You know what, Jesse? I'm scared of black women. Me too. All women are evil. You y'all know that? Yeah, I learned that in the hallway. I was married to a black woman.
Starting point is 00:01:29 She used to beat his ass, too. Beda. What now? Did you know human beings are evil? Oh, yeah. It's worse than what you can think. All the way you're going to be good is that you've got to admit that you're evil. Y'all have black people working for you, too?
Starting point is 00:01:49 Yeah, there to go. Oh, yeah, I did. Me one black. I forgot. Y'all have one black, huh? But he should save notice for the podcast. Start it up. Start it up.
Starting point is 00:02:03 We got Jesse Lee Peterson in the house. Amazing. How are you doing? Thank you God for having me. Oh, thank you for coming. All as well. Y'all like white people? I like some white people.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I like some white people. Not all white people. You don't? Why not? I like the conservative white people. Oh, you know? Not the liberal. Not liberal people.
Starting point is 00:02:22 No, man. Amazing. They're getting me of the state. The liberal white people is just as bad as the blacks. What's wrong with the blacks? I don't know, man. I saw y'all had one black working for you. Yeah. No, I got two black people.
Starting point is 00:02:35 The other one is black. He looked like an Indian guy. Oh, yeah, he's black. He's black. But thank you God for having. Oh, thank you for coming. Yeah. Is your, um, staff or are they like, do you got any DEI going or? No, D.E.I. Yeah. I don't hire black people with black names. Yeah, I don't blame for that.
Starting point is 00:02:58 And. What would you mean by black names? Uh, you know, a little black name. Yeah. Like, uh. Yeah, oh, that kind of mess. Yeah. And the reason I don't because you've already known that they hate white people, and it's going to be a problem. You know, the reason they have the black name because they hate white people.
Starting point is 00:03:19 And they already say, I hate white people, so they're not going to be able to work together. So I'm not going to waste my time like that. Yeah. Yeah, because of a black name, that's a red flag. That's right. Yeah, yeah. Well, a lot of people don't want them, but they want the crate their own.
Starting point is 00:03:34 They don't want, like, Keith, my name. Kevin. Well, one people already figure out everything. Jason, they want to come with their own name. That's right. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:03:42 And so my staff is, I have two black people right now. One, Anka Baby, he's kind of a Mexican, but he's... He's an acre baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:58 His parents gave him illegally. Yeah. What happened was his mama got pregnant on the other side of the border. Oh. And just, before it was time for him to
Starting point is 00:04:07 be born. She jumped across the border into the United States and dropped him on the ground and she went back and left him. Really? Oh yeah. There he is right there. It's true, huh? I thought she was making that shit. Well, usually they stay.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Right. Because of the baby. But the mother went back and left him here for some reason. And then he lived in Canada and then he moved to L.A. and that kind of stuff. So I have, I think two, Indiana, Mexican, two Mexicans.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Oh. Two blacks. Come on, now, where do white people are? We'll have one that's half. You never have too many white people. I know. We're a mess. I don't know how, I got a black producer now.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I don't know what happened. Yeah. How did this happen? Like, what is going on? What is he family? something or no he is a he's conservative real smart guy for a black person yeah he think like a white man that's the that's the negroes i like too yeah yeah yeah they get things done yeah and so so i'm fortunate though i have an amazing stuff yeah you've been doing this a long
Starting point is 00:05:31 time for 35 years yeah yeah and uh you live uh do you live in l-a i do i do i do How did the fires impact you out there? It was closer than ever before. It was like seven miles away. Wow. And you could see it. A friend of mine, his wife, house burned down. They just had a baby in the house, everything burned down.
Starting point is 00:05:55 One of my workers had to move away from his house because the fire is so close to them. But it was devastating. I thought it never was going to end. Yeah. I just never seen anything like that before. Yeah. I mean, I used to live out there for about 16 years, and it was always fires. I think, and I always believe this, California's got an arsonist problem.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Because it doesn't make no sense while California has all these fires. Another thing is that we have a Democratic government there, and they never burn, slow burn, or no more water. They don't really repair things, so it's not really set up to deal with fires. and things in the right way. Yeah. So that's one of the problems, too. And they let go of that fire chief out there, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:06:44 Yes, they did. Yeah, they have the battle going on now because the fire chief, which is the female. Right, yeah. And she's saying that she told the mayor, something like, she told them they needed more money. More resources, yeah. And she refused to do it.
Starting point is 00:07:02 So they have a, she fired her, a culture report, and they're fighting over that right now. trying to get her job at. Yeah, because she shouldn't be the one and only scapegoat. I mean, how do you not have water in a fire hydrant? Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I believe Newsom for that, too, Gavin, because he's been the governor. He should have made sure that happen as well. Yeah, it's not like these fires is like once-and-lifetime kind of thing. It's every year. I know, every year. Yeah, and not to have water. So it's not new. And then we have a black female mayor.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Yeah. Yeah, so she was in Africa when the firestorms. You know it ain't going to work. All right, you know it ain't going to work. It ain't going to work. I tried to tell him, I'm like, no, don't hire this woman. Yeah. I debated her before.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Oh, really? Yeah. And she has no clue. Really, she can't run a city. She can't even run a ghetto hood. So she definitely can't run a city like LA. Who was she doing in Africa? Party.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Why do you think black people like going to Africa? Africa when they sold us to white people. Why do they have an allegiance for this continent? They're crazy. Yeah. Really? They don't. They're out of their mind.
Starting point is 00:08:16 They just don't think straight. Yeah. And so... Well, just a lot of African, I mean, a lot of black Americans think we were kidnapped. I was like, man, I know white people are great, but they can't be that great. When they come to a continent and just start kidnapping people, they had some help. It is. It's amazing to me that black people think that...
Starting point is 00:08:36 white people are smarter than them. Yeah. It wasn't that way when I was growing up. You know, as you know, I grew up in Alabama, on a plantation under the Jim Crow law. And black people used to be independent thinkers. They didn't have black leaders. They thought it did for themselves.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Right. They bought land and just kind of did their own thing. Yeah, right. It wasn't until the civil rights movement came along, which was the worst thing that ever happened to the blacks. The civil rights movement other than abortion. They turned their lives. turn their lives over to Marlon and Jackson and all those people,
Starting point is 00:09:09 and it's been down here ever since. You should never, ever, ever have another person over you. Right. As an adult, especially men. You're not supposed to have a leader. God is your only leader, right? But they put other people in charge of them, and they've been leading them down a path of destruction ever since.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah. And that's the primary problem. You've got to be able to think for yourself. You got to. Yeah, because when I was raised, my mom was a Democrat. It's like, that's the black thing to do. Right. It'd be Democrat.
Starting point is 00:09:38 But then, like, when I got in my 30s and I just started, like, living my life and saying things for myself, I was like, wait a minute, this stuff is kind of crazy. Yeah. Kind of nuts over here and how they think on the left side when it comes to politics. Yeah, I grew up a Republican because when I was growing up, there was no Democrats that I was aware of. Most black people were Republicans. And so it wasn't until I moved to L.A. at 18, I said,
Starting point is 00:10:04 start listening to Justin Jackson, Lewis Farrakhan, and all the crazy people. And they were telling me, the white man is against you because of your color. And being young, and I thought they were leaders, I fell for the lie. And then I finally
Starting point is 00:10:18 realized I had been lied to, so I dropped the Democrat and went back to the Republican Party. That's the amazing reason why you switched to Republican because of the civil rights movement. Yeah. I realized they were lying to me and that my issue was a spiritual issue, not physical. But they made
Starting point is 00:10:34 just think that and I had hatred for white people too once I listened to them I didn't grow up like that yeah I did too because my mom was showing his roots yeah all the black shows yeah I would go to school next day just looking at the white people right right and it just I don't know it put a hatred in me I think over time it developed I gave me anxiety yeah I saw a white person looking at me yeah I was like they looking at me like that because I'm a negro yeah you know looking back on it that white woman white woman went to get with me but my mama had fed me these they're white people against her white people against that is so true man yeah yeah I used to think that
Starting point is 00:11:09 anytime white people disagree with me at work or something I totally thought it was because I was black yeah yeah I just couldn't believe there's two people just disagreeing yeah you see things it's not there that is so true man and so finally I realized that okay if I'm black and white man holding me back why is it that he's not holding Jesse Jackson his family back yeah Louis Farah Canada. They were living in amazing homes and they had jobs and kids that have fathers and mothers. I'm like, why are they holding them back? And that's when I realized I had been lied to.
Starting point is 00:11:45 There's all the games. It's a hustle. And that's right. So I read the Republican platform and I'm like, I'm out of here. No more Democrat. And I just turned away from now. Yeah. And it's still true today. Look at all the celebrities and all the blacks just, you know, made a name for themselves, whether it's in Hollywood or acting or in music career, they're all bad mouth for Republicans. They always bad-mouthed white people. Because Hollywood, that whole line of work is ran by liberals. Yeah. And Jews. So white people are afraid of the blacks. You can't blame them, Jesse. I know, yeah. You know what, Jesse? I'm scared of black folks.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Me too. You know? I want to go to the hood. Yeah, I don't. I went to the hood a couple times. I said, I ain't ever doing this again. Yeah. Yeah. I have family member who live in the hood and I just call now. I used to go and visit sometimes especially before the crime got so bad. It was really bad down in LA and the homeless situation. So I'm not, I don't really go to the hood
Starting point is 00:12:48 Yeah, I met my two black friends like I got to a point where I just started judging black people differently because I started to notice a trend Yeah. Like I met Chris, he's a comedian I say this guy's a nice guy I can tell he's And Chris is black. Yeah, he's black.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Yeah, he's black. Both of the names are Chris. Oh, they are? Oh, okay. Nice. Yeah. They ran out of names, huh? What?
Starting point is 00:13:20 I remember one time I was up in L.A., I got lost. And I was in this ghetto era. I was like, oh, my God, you look at these Negroes over here. Yeah, watch is a scary place. Yeah. It is now. When I first moved to L.A., it wasn't that bad. What happened?
Starting point is 00:13:38 Democrats? Yeah, Democrats. Used to be a Republican state. The Mexicans moved in, and so there's a war going on between the blacks and the Mexicans over there. The Mexicans winning that. They're taking that land back.
Starting point is 00:13:50 They are taking it. And so he just got just a mess over there right now. Yeah. It was really bad. When I first moved to L.A., I worked in Watts for a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:01 That's how nice it was. Compton area. Right. But it just got worse over the years. years yeah what happened because i was looking some old pictures of compton and watson you got to see people white people that used to live right yeah yeah matter of now it's all section 8 is like really ghetto but the Mexicans are running the blast out now yeah because they hate the blast and the
Starting point is 00:14:20 blast ate them so it's supposed to be all black lives matter right not over there that's a joke not over there you know what the one you got have white parents yeah I have uh well my my daddy was really light I might great, great, great grandfather was from Ireland. Yeah. Oh. So why do you guys have white people's eyes? Cause him, probably.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Oh, yeah? You know it's crazy. It's crazy. My dad, he got his eyes from his granddad. And it came down through us. And he was white. Yeah. Yeah, my dad was black.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yeah, but he was really light, though. Yeah. He looked like, uh, don't see it. It looked like black Elvis. Black Elvis with a tan on him. Right on. Yeah. We actually came from one of the biggest plantations on the East Coast
Starting point is 00:15:09 called the Hurston Plantation. Oh, yeah? Nice. Really? Amazing. So when your master said, he said, you said yes, a master? We sit.
Starting point is 00:15:24 I'm glad I ain't grew up doing that time. When my master said, he said, I said, yes, a master? We sit. Hey, Jesse, Explain to us what was like growing up during the civil rights movement, Jim Crow and all that. How was it for blacks? Before the civil rights movement, it was amazing.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yeah. Yeah. You know, you hear these story that blacks and whites did not get along? That's not true. I'm sure you can find bad people in our groups, but we treated each other the way we would like to be treated. When I saw white people, I treated them the same way. They treated me the same way they would do anyone. and it didn't change until
Starting point is 00:16:06 I do remember going to a movie theater once down in UFar, Alabama and the blacks are sitting in the balcony but I was a teenager, not in mind because we had a better view. We could see better up there. But it still wasn't just animosity that we've been told.
Starting point is 00:16:25 My family owned land. As a fact, one of my aunt, she and her husband, they had like 50, 16, 17, 17 children, right? Maybe more. And they own land. They never had to work the fuels and things like that. They owned their own property.
Starting point is 00:16:40 And we did our own thing. It wasn't what you've been told that it was like. That changed when the civil rights movement came along. When we started to integrate with whites. When you force integration, that should have never happened. Blacks and white would have come together on their own. Those who agreed and those who didn't agree, it would have happened naturally. But you can't force anyone to love you.
Starting point is 00:17:04 And they were trying to force the white people to accept the blacks. We were with a big mistake. So it's just been down here ever since. Back of those days, like blacks had everything. They had the own doctors, had the own transportation. Yeah. And did you see any ghettos that you see today? No ghettos.
Starting point is 00:17:22 No violence, no crime. Oh, look at those pictures. None of those things when I was growing up. It was unheard of for black people to kill one another. or to fight one another. I grew up and I only had one fight in high school and that was over a baseball bat. I thought we both were fighting over,
Starting point is 00:17:42 we went on the baseball field. This guy thought it was this time and I thought it was mine, and we were fighting over that. And that's about it. So it was no ghettos? No ghettos, no fighting. No crime at all.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Yeah. No crime. Nobody around me committed crime that I'm aware of at all. all. It was unheard of. It was totally different than it is today. So when you've seen like those, like there's been some moments in history that the civil rights movement like grabbed onto, embraced and used that to force integration, like what happened to Emmett Till, was it, McGregor, yeah, Eggers down in, who's that Mississippi? Yes. So you're saying like these types
Starting point is 00:18:26 of incidents were like isolated? Yes. Really? Poor America, they're going to use them to death. Yeah. Emmental, 100 years going by, they still talking about Emmett Till. That happened then. And we don't know the true story about that, what really happened. They just kind of made up stuff to make it look like what they wanted it to look like so they can control the blacks. It really, something happened that we don't really know the whole detail. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:53 I don't know. I can't remember what happened. I guess they said a bunch of white guys grabbed them and killed them and buried them or something like that. I'm kind of ignorant on what happened. I just remember that name. They said one of the guys looked at a white woman. Yeah, in a tail. Yeah, that's a result.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Looked at the white woman. They killed him. Now, I don't know how true that is. There's always more to discern than what you hear. Excuse me. And because human beings are evil. Did you know human beings are evil? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:22 No, it's worse than what you can think. And because they are evil and they won't admit they're evil so they can overcome it. You never know what the real truth is. Yeah, I mean, I look how evil the world is. Like, we go to school and they teach you to standing line, be nice to your neighbor and this and that, don't cut in line. Just little stuff like it in kindergarten.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Like, just imagine if people wasn't taught how to be good, how evil everybody would be. You know what I mean? It's just an evil world we live in. I think it's naturally, it's like natural inclination to be able. You actually got to teach people to be good. But that doesn't work either. You really can't teach anyone to be good because think about it,
Starting point is 00:19:59 Christianity is supposed to be a religion that teaches us to love one another and to be good and have a more life and live. Nobody is living up to that. Right. Nobody. Right. And so even our parents who tried to teach us to be good, it didn't work. No one has lived up to it. All the way you're going to be good is that you've got to admit that you're evil.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Yeah. And that's the hardest thing. Salvation of the heart. So God said that we got to admit that we're evil because anyone that has anger is playing God. They think they know right for wrong. They judge themselves and others. They cannot be trusted.
Starting point is 00:20:41 God said never trust an angry person. An angry person is an evil person, and they are your enemy and do not trust them. But when you admit that you're evil, hey, I'm evil or wrong, and then you forgive your parents because that's who did, especially your mother. And... Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Don't give me stutter on women. Then you go and forgive your mother because all human beings hate their mothers. There's not one that descent. I think I love mama. I love my mama. Mama's crazy. Mama's crazy. She would have the bobbled one hand and cuss you out.
Starting point is 00:21:21 That's right. Yeah, yeah. But when you forgive your mother, males and female, when you forgive your mother, Hey, mother, I'm sorry for resenting you. I realize now you couldn't help yourself because you become just like your mother. Any man that has anger is a woman.
Starting point is 00:21:36 He thinks, he reacts, he has emotion like a woman. He becomes like his mother because he becomes like what you hate. But when you go and forgive her for turning away from your father, playing victim, impose her will, I'm sorry for resenting you. God would forgive you and he would change your heart from anger to love.
Starting point is 00:21:56 then he changed that old nature from anger, from fear and doubt and loneliness and insecurity and worry and suicidal thought. He would take all those things and give you his nature. Then you'll be a perfect love and you will have perfect peace and you have a perfect life. But you've got to return to the father. And all the way you're going to return, you've got to admit to yourself, you don't have to say that loud, but you got to admit you are evil, but you got to forgive your mother. because the evil
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Starting point is 00:23:18 You should I know that? Yeah, I learned that hallway. Mexico, or things I think I think you have done the most despicable things I can imagine. Yeah, absolutely. Women have told me they've been pregnant when they're not. Yeah. Women have told me,
Starting point is 00:23:33 let me put this in perspective. Like, I was in relationship with this woman. Didn't work out. Yeah. She went behind my back. I was given, already given a child support.
Starting point is 00:23:43 She went behind my back, went to the welfare office, said she hasn't been in contact with me. Yeah. He was living together. I go to work. I get this confidential envelope. Back child's port,
Starting point is 00:23:53 like $60,000, they was going to spend my license. I was going to go to jail. Thankfully, I kept all my receipts, all the child support. So all they got thrown out. But a woman will destroy your life and will not lose one wink of sleep. Not at all. They'll take your children away from you. They'll go to court.
Starting point is 00:24:09 They'll cry. They'll make up things about you. That's not even true. Because, of course, on the side of the woman, they tend to give the children to the woman. Whereas in the good old days, they would give the children to the father because they understood the nature of the woman that was evil.
Starting point is 00:24:25 You do know that the God above is the man's guy and the God below is the woman's guy, right? Satan? Mm-hmm. I didn't know that. You didn't know that? That's why they're so evil. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:37 They can't help it. Yeah, that's funny. I was married 19 years old in the Marine Corps to a black woman. She used to beat his ass, too. But one day... What now! He'd been bed home marrying smoking Joe Frey.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Beda. What? Well, I was 19 at the time. And I remember she called the cops on me. And when the cops got there, she started screaming and crying and told the cops I hit her. Yeah. Yeah. So when you said that, it's like I can speak from experience.
Starting point is 00:25:11 That actually happened to me. But when those cops came, they already knew me by first name because there was always coming calls us. So always fighting and arguing. And I thought, I said, look, I haven't touched. I said, look at my arms. This bitch's been whooped in my ass for the last hour. I'm just keeping off. They took her to jail.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Nice. Yeah. I've always said this. I mean, I know men over history has did some wicked things, but I think there's a special evil in a woman. Yeah. Well, it comes through her because that's her nature. Ever since the Adam of Easter, you know, when the woman listened to it at one time, there was just God and his son, Jesus, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And they had a relationship. And they communicated without words. They just communicated without words. And then God decided, you know what? I'm tired of creating a human being with my hands. So because as long as I create them from the dust of the earth, with my hand, they're not going to decide if they want to love me or not. By force or not by choice, right?
Starting point is 00:26:14 And God wants us to love him by choice, not by force. So he decided to create the woman, and he created Eve. And when Eve first came along, she loved Adam who loved the father. And they were perfect peace. And then she went shopping one day. Bitch went shopping. She went to the store called Adam. Like one of some candy yams.
Starting point is 00:26:40 It was Sunday. He wanted some candy yams. He wanted some candy yams, collard greens, cornbread. And in those days, they needed to be. how fought and spoon they ate with their fingers right you ever eat collard greens and cornbread with your fingers no oh my god it's best oh it's like taste better put okricks in there collard green cornbread some candy in yeah i also think it on tic-tok just a bunch of africans eating with their hands yes these people are savages what it looked like savages but it made the
Starting point is 00:27:18 food look so good it was delicious i used to eat that way in alabama we didn't yeah yeah yeah with the hand. But anyway, so she went to the store and got some soul food. And she saw Satan at the store. And say, we were like, Eve, how's Adam? He's fine. You still with him? Yes, I love my husband.
Starting point is 00:27:39 He was like, no, you shouldn't be her. Would that man be your own woman? And she was like, no, I love my husband. I'm a bail my husband. I love him. And she was like, no. So she kind of said no to him. When she went home, she told Adam that she had seen Eve, I mean, he said at the store. And he was like, stay away from that.
Starting point is 00:27:58 He's evil. Do not believe him. And she's like, okay. And Satan had tried to convince Adam to turn against his father, but he wouldn't. And so. Because man got sense. Yes. And so she went back to the store the next day and they got some white people food.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Salets. Apple. Yeah. Right. The white people food. So they had white people food. Yeah. And so she saw Satan again.
Starting point is 00:28:31 He was like, you're still with him? You could be your own woman. You can take your bra off. You could be independent. You can have abortions. You don't have to listen to that man. Feminism. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:28:43 And she did. She listened. In the very moment, she listened to the devil. Her whole nature changed. It changed from good to evil. Satan made a home of her. He became her God. And she would no longer listen to her husband.
Starting point is 00:28:59 And so she went home and Adam saw a change in her. She's like, what happened? She was like, well, I saw Satan die out in the market and he told me I could be my own guy. I don't have to listen to you. He said, you listen to your father. Why should I listen to you? And she turned against Adam. She no longer would obey him.
Starting point is 00:29:20 him. She hated the truth. She thought she was God. She thought she was equal to him. And St. Made a home of her. And so evil started to operate through the woman because God was no longer the woman's God. And then she convinced Adam to listen to her. Why are you listening to your father? You know how the mother's new today. Your father is no good. Be your own man. Don't let him control you. And she convinced Adam to listen to her. And the moment Adam listened to the woman, the woman became the man's God. And God and Adam could rule along and obey his father. And so that's what you have going on today.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Satan is the woman's God and the woman is the man's God. And men don't know how to deal with that. Because their mothers are turning them away from their fathers. And the women are becoming a man's God because they hate women. They hate their mother. So they hate all women. You become attracted to what you hate, right? And that's why you've got to forgive your mother so God can take the woman's mindset and emotions away from you.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Because it's abnormal for men to be angry. When men are angry, they act stupidly. They're just like a woman. They have no patient, no nothing, right? But once you forgive, God will forgive you and forgive your earthly fathers for not protection you from the mother. He didn't know how to deal with her because he married the woman that he hate. you end up attracted to what you hate. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:51 And the cycle repeats itself. And so when you forgive your mother and forgive your father for not protecting you from your mother, everything will change. God would take away that woman's nature, which is evil, if not her nature, but is in her. And he will give you perfect peace. Yeah, I've been reading a lot of philosophy books. I call it stoicism. And they teach you how to not let your emotions control you. But you got to, because it's...
Starting point is 00:31:18 spiritual, you got to overcome emotion. Yeah. You can't have you're not, you're not supposed to be because it spiritual, it's evil and it made a home in your mind and emotions. And we're not supposed to have it at all. And that's why when you forgive, I promise
Starting point is 00:31:34 you, God would take them away from you and you would have perfect peace and you would deal with all people the same way. You would not hate anyone, no one can get you mad, no one can control you, because you would have the nature of the father instead of the nature of the mother.
Starting point is 00:31:51 And this is for every human being in the world. I counsel with men and women around the world, and Satan tells everybody the same thing. He made everybody overreact in the same way. But once you forget, it will change. But you've got to drop that anger. Anger is evil, and it's separate you from God. Yeah, all the emotion is evil.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Yeah, it is. Yeah. I got a better control of it now. So why don't you forgive your mother? I forgive her for everything. But why don't you tell her that? She didn't go. Oh, she did?
Starting point is 00:32:24 She did. How about your father? My father died when I was 14. My 14th birthday, and guess what? My mama died a day before my 14th birthday. Wow. It was wild, right? Well, just realized they could not help themselves and forgive them by seeing that you can't help yourself, right?
Starting point is 00:32:42 And once you understand that, and then you forgive them, God will forgive you and everything will change. I'm telling you, you will literally have perfect peace. You start to live in from within, to live from within instead of out all the time. You will live from within. Yeah, you got to let go of the hatred for white people for what they did in the past,
Starting point is 00:33:00 but they act like white people did it all by themselves. They were in the huts with Africans. Absolutely. As a matter of fact, in Africa, it was the white, it was the blacks who sold the white people. I mean, the black, it was the Asian, the, what's the Allah al-Aubah people? Muslim.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Muslims. Oh yeah, Muslim. Ali Akbar. It was... They ain't put some Mexicans out there. Yeah. They all look to say. And it was the blacks who sold the blacks to the Allah al-Aubah people.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Right. And they either one took the blacks across the world and sold them to the rest. But they want to blame the white man for it. Right. Because the white man had money. And they can get the white man money, but they're not going to be able to get the Allah, who I buy people money.
Starting point is 00:33:49 So that's why they blame the white man. Right, right. What a mess, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's just silly, like, I never, like, embraced that idea that I'm African-American. I always just thought I was black American. And what does it even mean to be two nationalities?
Starting point is 00:34:05 Yes, all you doing is taking two nationalities, two ethnicities. You were born in America, so you're just a black American. There's nothing African about anybody that's black that was born in this kind of, As a matter of fact, if you're an American and you go over to Africa, they're not going to treat you like an African-American. No, they're not. They're not.
Starting point is 00:34:22 They don't treat you the way that these blacks are not pretend. They do not do that. Yeah, they look at us like we're ancestors of slaves. They don't, that's right. They're not going to treat you well in Africa. Right. Not at all. I see a lot of these black people here in America, they dress African.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Are they mocked when they go to Africa when they dress like that? I'm sure they are. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't got it. I would go to Africa, but right now they, it's too weird. Yeah. They're like killing white people in South Africa, especially. They've taken over South Africa,
Starting point is 00:34:58 and then the white people moved out to their farmland, and the blacks were going out there robbing and killing and raping them as well. Yeah. So what's wrong? Well, it's the mother spirit. Yeah. I said, what's wrong with the blacks? So I got to ask
Starting point is 00:35:14 So what I'm looking at you guys I feel like when I look this way I'm still looking that way Right Right Right This is weird Yeah
Starting point is 00:35:25 So I add Do y'all feel each other pain? No No None of that shit going on Meaning that If one of you Meaning that if one of you are out there somewhere
Starting point is 00:35:34 And you're in trouble Sometimes I have a bad A premonition A bad bar I call them up say, you okay, you can get no accident. No, I'm ready to just looking at the TV. Sometimes that comes, but it hasn't, it hasn't,
Starting point is 00:35:47 nothing's bad happening. Yeah, we don't have, uh, we don't have, uh, we don't have telepathic powers. Uh, so do y'all, like, get angry at each other at times? Yeah, sometimes, yeah, sometimes, yeah, because doing, uh, we work like five days a week and, like 12 our days, so it gets stressful sometimes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Yeah. Because I'm sure you worked long hours, too. Oh, yeah. I get up at three every morning. Mm-hmm. And I'm at the office about quarter to five. And so I work all the time. That's why it's so hard to get me up here because I was just so busy.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Right. And then the last time we were supposed to come, the fire thing happened. Yeah, the fires happen. Right. Are you married at all? No. I've been engaged twice. I did it, the Black Way.
Starting point is 00:36:33 The Black Way? What's the Blackway? I have made a child out of weather. Oh, you're a baby daddy. That's right. But, so I have a son and two grandkids, adult grandkids now. And then my granddaughter got married and she had her husband, have three sons. And so I have a family.
Starting point is 00:36:53 I just did it the black way. And I got engaged twice. But. Well, black women or? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I never thought I would marry a white woman.
Starting point is 00:37:06 I did grow up thinking I wanted to be with a white woman. woman though. We all about me, one of them white women. Yeah. Because what... You dated a white woman? I have. What happened was when I was growing up, my uncles used to go up to New York
Starting point is 00:37:21 in Florida for the summer. And they would come back and they were talking about the white woman. And I know. The white woman. And I was I was young, you know, they were
Starting point is 00:37:39 about the white woman. woman. And the white woman, I don't know if I can say this on TV. Yeah, you can probably say it. Go ahead. But the white woman were different than the black woman in bed. In bed? In bed?
Starting point is 00:37:51 What did they say? What was the differences? I can't. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'll put it this way. Go ahead. They would say things that the white women would do in bed that black women would not do.
Starting point is 00:38:08 I found that to be 100% correct. Yeah. And so black women, they would never do those things, right? Right, right. And so I was like, wow, I'm going to get me a white woman. I'm telling you, these white women have sucked a soul out of you. Yeah, white women is totally different. Yeah, but black women are like that now, though.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Yeah, but I think we just had bad experience with the black woman we chose. I end up married a Mexican. You're married to a Mexican now? And how about you? Me too. The Mexican? Mm-hmm. She was a Mexico
Starting point is 00:38:43 She's a citizen now, so She was illegal No, she came here legally But we had to go back to See that war is And get her papers off it She had to leave the country She let a visa lapse or something
Starting point is 00:38:56 Yeah, she had to stay and See that warrants about 30 days And then they gave her papers And she came back What? And you're Mexican from illegal to? She wasn't legal So do you guys speak Spanish?
Starting point is 00:39:11 I've learned a little bit of Spanish See Try And so So I moved to California And I said I'm gonna go to junior college Because
Starting point is 00:39:23 You're running a white woman Yeah That's why I went The only way I went To get you a white woman Uh huh That's why I joined the military I see you
Starting point is 00:39:33 I arrest my case I wouldn't need one of them white women I heard that if you wanted a white woman The best place to get one is in a college. Yeah, that was the best kind. Yeah. And so I went to junior college,
Starting point is 00:39:53 L.A. City College to give me a white woman. Yeah. I could hardly pad to S.A.T. to get in there. You got to work for the white women. Right. Because I'm not a school person. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I love school, but for fun. Basketball and track and dating and stuff like that. So I got into L.A.C. And I met a white city. white girl. And it was true what they said. Yeah. And then as soon as I got where I dropped out of
Starting point is 00:40:27 college. I literally dropped out. As soon as you got that white woman. Check that off your list. I can leave college. Right. And I left right in the middle of the session. I left. Yeah. Yeah. Because that's the only reason I had gone. It didn't take very long to get a white woman because white women love black men.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Yeah. Right. And so they feel sorry for black men, I guess. Give me some. They're empathetic. Right. Let me go give us some to this Negro. Life is hard for him. Let me give us some of that white privilege over here.
Starting point is 00:40:58 That's right. And so I did that and I dropped out of college. And that was the only white woman I was well. Because I had to find out it was true. And by that time, black women starts to change through. They were trying to act like white women in bed and everything. And so I got engaged and I was dating a priest's woman. a daughter.
Starting point is 00:41:20 And she thought she had gotten pregnant. She's like, oh, I'm pregnant. I was like, too bad. And she's like, no, my dad, my family going to kill me. I'm like, but I'm not ready for marriage. And she was fine. Really? Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Yeah. This girl was so fine. I used to have, at the time I worked for the hospital, and I used to have her come up to the hospital to have lunch with me, and I will walk her all over the hospital. Everybody is just doing this round. He's bringing this woman around. But she saw she were pregnant,
Starting point is 00:41:58 and then later she found out she wasn't her monthly thing. They were late. And she left because I would marry, so she left town. But she wanted to marry you, huh? Yeah. And then I got engaged one other time, and that relationship didn't work because once I got engaged
Starting point is 00:42:13 because this woman was trying to control me. She had like she wasn't controlled as long. we were dating. But once we got engaged, she wanted to control me. And I had bought her ring and everything. And then I'm like, look, you better cut it out. Nobody's going to control me. Cut it out, cut it out.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Then she started being jealous or all that. So I said, okay, I'm done. I got my ring back and called it on. And I got my money. Yeah. Did she give it back? Did she? I asked for, hey, give me my ring.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Yeah, she gave it to. And I got my money back. Yeah. And so. Was she a black woman? Yes. She was black. You didn't get that rain back.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Nowadays you are. You're probably going to get shot too. Because the men don't know how they get it back. They're bait her. They're afraid of the woman so they can't take it back. Hey, have you noticed, like, in our communities, like, I know you said black women changed over time. They want to act like white women and stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:06 But have you noticed a trend with black women? They're, like, very, very masculine. Yes. Well, they're aggressive. It's so unfortunate, too. Yeah. And that's because they have not been raised by fathers. See that?
Starting point is 00:43:21 Yeah. That's crazy. He would even looking for that punch. That dude looked like he was drunk. I'll tell you. It's unfortunate, though, because these women are lost. What do you think caused that? Because I don't see this in other races of people.
Starting point is 00:43:53 They haven't had fathers in the last 70 years or so. Yeah. Yeah. At least in my day, the fathers and grandfathers were there, and women would carry themselves. especially black women in a different kind of way. Right. And they were not like this.
Starting point is 00:44:08 You know, they respected themselves and others. There is no way that any woman that I know would have been acting like this in public. They didn't act like that at home. That changed what the civil rights movement became long. And the government became the daddy of the family. And they pushed the man out of the way. And the women, they stroke the woman ego and told how she's a queen, how smart she is, how hard life is because you didn't have a man.
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Starting point is 00:45:26 When I see it, it's kind of funny a little but it's sad. Yeah. Because these women are lonely, they're lost,
Starting point is 00:45:48 they're empty, they're yearning for a father. Yeah. And they look, even to their boyfriends and husbands to be like a father to them to guide them, but the men don't have it either because they have not had a father to guide them.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Right. And so it's sad, really, to be honest. Yeah. Like this past election, like when Kamala lost, they tried to put this idea out there that black women are the most educated group of people in the country. I was like, as soon as I heard that, I knew that was a lot. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Because they're using the women to promote the Democratic Party. they use them to bring in destructions. And they're using them for personal gain. Gaslighting them. And if you see, uh-huh. And you see like we have these black women in Congress and right. But they're loud mouth. Jazz McCracket.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Yeah. They just say anything. Women were not like that prior to the Civil Rights Movement. Black women were amazed. They were respectful. Of course you could find some angry one. But they respected people, you know, they respect themselves.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Black one used to be very classy. They did very much. So to a point, honestly, when I was growing up, I thought that only white people sinned. I didn't even, I didn't know black people sin until I moved to the city and started seeing other stuff going on. But that's how respectful black people used to be. We never treated each other in the way we treat each other today. How do you feel about black people calling each other the N-word?
Starting point is 00:47:19 When I was growing up, I didn't even know about that word. Really? I only heard that word when I moved to the city. No one ever called each other that word. I didn't even hear that word from white people. Yeah. So it only became popular when I moved to the city that I started to hear. And when I first started hearing it, I just thought it was a black thing that they did.
Starting point is 00:47:38 I didn't know it really was a bad word. Yeah, well, we used to be like call my brother, my sister. There used to be a thing in the black community, but now they get slowly let that go. And now we just a bunch of n-knit each other. Yeah. It's unfortunate because it's spiritual and it's evil. The next generation of blacks are going to be worse. They don't have a chance.
Starting point is 00:48:00 And then at some point, we all as individuals need to work on ourselves so that we can overcome that fallen state. It starts so that God can pass love through us so that some generation at some point can start waking up and stop treating each other and others in this way. Because it's evil. It's not good. I would battle as a spiritual battle.
Starting point is 00:48:23 And if we don't start being serious about it, because these people are hurting, man. I counsel with some of these people, and they're miserable inside. And they think if you get money or if you do this mess on camera, that's on YouTube now. They think that it's going to bring happiness,
Starting point is 00:48:40 and it doesn't. It doesn't bring it. Yeah. And it's up to the men. A lot of blacks want reparations. Yeah. They want D-E-I mess. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:49 And reparation and all that mess. Have you had a conversation with anybody like about rep raises, well, how much you want? Have anybody gave you a dollar figure yet? I had a couple friends that said about three, four million. I was like, well, rep race supposed to put you the same position as everybody else. Right. If you want to pay it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:07 And average person got about maybe $20,000 in that bank account. Right. On average. Yeah. Why are you getting $4 million? You want to be a king. I know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:16 They can never give you a dollar figure. Yeah. But it's just they're going by. what their leaders are telling them. Yeah, yeah. They're not thinking of this stuff themselves. Yeah. They've been told by Max C. Water, the Wicke, Wicke and the West, the West,
Starting point is 00:49:31 Al-Shop and all those guys, they'll be, they're doing the city of people, and they're really the ones that are getting rich. They'll shopped and fly around in a jet now. Right. A private jet. You know what I mean? And that's come from pushing this raised stuff and affirmative action and all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Gives them a job. Absolutely. When I were raising my son, the time I did have with him. I told him you got to work for yourself, buddy. You know, you got to be responsible for childhood. That's why I was raised. And as a result, he became very independent when he got older. And I had to leave home at 18.
Starting point is 00:50:09 But I was ready for it. I prepared for that. And black people used to do that. They prepared their children, especially boys, to be responsible when you become 18. something got to be done about this. And it's up to the men, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Like when you was growing up for the Civil Rights movie, there was no... How often did you see a black family having kids out of wedlock? It was rare. Yeah. If a girl got pregnant out of the wedlock, the boys were afraid...
Starting point is 00:50:37 We were afraid to make babies out of wedlock because we would have to have a shotgun wedding. We would have to get married. But what happened if a girl did get pregnant, she would have to lead town. Or go into hiding until she had to be. baby, right? You'd be like, where's my children? Well, she's up north
Starting point is 00:50:54 because it was an embarrassment for black women to get pregnant out of the wetline. It was less than 10% of black baby were born out of wetlock without growing up. And if she got pregnant and was not married, she had to raise that baby.
Starting point is 00:51:11 She had to take care of that baby. The parents didn't do it. The grandparents, they helped out sometimes but she would have to drop out of school and everything and raise her baby. And the women knew that, so they were less likely to have a baby or get pregnant out with her. How about abortions? When did that? Unheard of. Even if you had a retarded child, you know, sometimes they had a big watermelon hair baby. You ever seen no big watermelon whale? Yeah, I've seen them a couple times, yeah. I had a watermelon head baby cousin.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Oh, yeah? How is she or he doing? They had the baby, and the baby just lived until the baby died. They didn't And they treated the baby well But they don't live that long But they had the baby They never have an abortion They didn't go Oh my baby's going to be retarded
Starting point is 00:52:00 So let's kill it in the womb They had the baby That's what even meant to be And that's what they did Black people used to be Amazing people at one time Right Really I'm telling you
Starting point is 00:52:10 And I never imagine that one day It would get to this It didn't look like that was possible I didn't understand Human nature at the time Do you think the problem that black people are having is, do you think that's systemic? I don't think it's like racism. I think it's the other side, you know, forcing a hand.
Starting point is 00:52:30 I mean, I think that course has been fit to us. I think black people have been conditioned to think this way and this way in this way that they're being taught is the wrong way. Yeah. Number one, the sins of the parents are being passed down to the generations. I can generate that anger, no unity anymore. And then you're right, they'll be used by the government. they'll be used by their black leaders. They'll be used by their so-called counselors and professional.
Starting point is 00:52:53 They're really using black people for personal gain. Yeah, that's why when they see us, they say we're sellouts. Right. Because I don't know what we're supposed to do. Yeah. A contob and all that. A lot of black people live in ghettos, poverty. You know, a lot of blacks think that the reason why their neighborhoods is all ghettos
Starting point is 00:53:13 because there was fed guns and drugs. the white man dropped it off there and that's why they live in ghettos. I was like, well, even if that's true, it doesn't mean you have to, you have to take the guns and shoot your brother or your sister or take these drugs. You still have a decision over your own fate. Why has everything got to be the white man's? I interviewed so many of the blacks and they said that, right? Oh, the white man brought the drug into the neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:53:38 So I'm like, did they make you take the drug? Did they make you shoot that dude? Right. Let's say that they brought it. It's not true, but let's say that the white people brought the drug. They didn't tie you down and make you take the drug. Right. You had to go buy the drugs.
Starting point is 00:53:55 You had to go home and take the drugs. They don't seem to understand that though. Yeah. They claim everything bad does happen to black folks. Yeah. Because of the white men. Yeah. That's a sad way to live, right?
Starting point is 00:54:10 What a sad way to live. They'll blame everything. The country going while black people are chasing. and them trying to get it and destroying it. Destroying what? Everything they're touched. I'm black. I don't destroy everything I touch. You made me one black that don't be, but most blacks do.
Starting point is 00:54:25 No, most blacks do what? Destroy. Prove that. Who killed blacks, other blacks the most? Blacks. And who kills other whites the most? No, no, no, no, no, no. Who turned nice neighborhood?
Starting point is 00:54:40 Oh, I'm giving you to proof. But who kills other whites to most? Who turned nice neighborhoods into a hood? But that's intellectually dishonest. That's intellectually dishonest. Who turned nice neighborhoods into hoods? Bad people. Who, uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Now you're changing. No. Who turned nice neighborhoods into hoods? Hood people. Who are those? Who are people? A hoodlums. I'm giving you a hint.
Starting point is 00:55:04 It's a skin color, but what's the hint there? Who? Which people are those? Isn't that amazing? Yeah. I remember when I first moved to L.A., I lived in South Central L.A. And over there in Crenshaw and Slotson area. And it was beautiful.
Starting point is 00:55:23 There were mostly white people on my street that I lived on it. The whole area was nice. Crenshaw High School, Maniwale, really nice. And then the white people started to move out because the black were moving in. They said it's white flight. Right, they know what they call it. And it turned into a ghetto overnight. Really, everything changed.
Starting point is 00:55:43 People didn't cut their grass. They didn't paint their homes. Crime came in. I saw that happen myself. I had never seen anything like that. Right. And then I remember going to Houston Texas once to do a talk.
Starting point is 00:55:57 And they took me on a little tour. And they took me to a black neighborhood that used to be white and beautiful at one time. And black people just sitting on the porch. My mom used to do that. Go outside to sit on the porch. The neighborhood had fallen apart. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:17 And they were sitting on the porch. Yeah. Man, I'm going to be a little cave. Mama said, come on, Keith and Kevin. Let's go sit on the porch. Yeah. Yeah. They did not paint the house.
Starting point is 00:56:31 They're not cleaning yard. The neighborhood, I'm like, why don't they get out there and do something? Another thing is with Gary Indiana. I saw Gary Anna fall apart, too. When I first moved there, it was beautiful. It was safe. White people had white businesses everywhere.
Starting point is 00:56:48 It was a nice home. And a lot of the people from the South had moved to Gary. And because they were raised differently, they bought homes and they taught their children, right? My mother and my stepfather had nine of us. So I had like seven sisters and five brothers, something like that. Yeah. And my mother never had to work. my self-father took care of her.
Starting point is 00:57:16 She stayed home. She would go grocery shopping. She would keep the house going, and everything was fine. And then they elected the first black mayor in Gary, Indiana. And the very next day, really, not a week later. They had their election on a Tuesday. And I was going to Edison High School at the time. And the very next day, all hell broke them.
Starting point is 00:57:42 I'm like, what? The black people were fighting on the school bus. Right. They were fighting in the hallway. They were attacking white people. They were fighting with them. And the white people left, right? The place turned into a ghetto overnight.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And I was a witness to that. And I had a white friend because I was afraid of the blacks. I went to the cuff of the violence. You scared of the blacks too? Because I didn't grow up around violent black people, so I didn't know yet. I didn't understand. I was like the white people. I was scared of them.
Starting point is 00:58:23 So I had a white friend. And his family read across from Edison High School, they moved away in the middle of the night. I didn't even get to tell me my friend, bye. White people just moved. They left because children were getting beat up. Crying with everything. The mayor's name was Richard Hatchett or something like that. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:58:47 Just the Democrats and people on the left, they're like to paint this picture. The reason why these whites are leaving is because they're racist. No. They're moving up because they're scared. They're scared. Really? They all right. Property violence is going down.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Yeah. Absolutely. Value goes down. And Gary in Indiana used to be a beautiful town, man. I'm telling you. Downtown was amazing. You could go to the theater. You walk around and never been afraid of anything.
Starting point is 00:59:12 anything, that changed. And now they have homes empty, just lands, acres and acres of empty apartments and their own. Yeah. What you're describing is what actually is going on in Chicago right now. Yeah. Yeah, that place is going to fall hard one day. Yeah. It is. Yeah. Unless a change come. So what can we do about it? You can't help them people. I mean, look what happened in Detroit. Detroit used to be a great area. Yeah. Look at Detroit. Yeah. I have family members or friends. And family member who moved to Detroit from Alabama when Detroit was booming and they loved Detroit.
Starting point is 00:59:49 And then Detroit changed and they moved back to Alabama. Yeah. Because we didn't grow up like that. I think we grew up like white people. Right. We didn't grow up in violence and killing each other and worried about walking down the road. We used to leave home
Starting point is 01:00:03 and just barely, we were close the door but not locked the door. And the family leave. You got to lock them doors, not just. Yeah, you have to leave. You got double locks and security on. Our people's going to come in there and take something. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:17 So y'all married to Mexicans. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I tried a black woman. I said, nope, never again. Really?
Starting point is 01:00:24 Yep. Never again. Y'all started to know it's a tram, man. Jesse, the only woman I've dated. See, put your hands up. Let's do this. What black? Was a black woman.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I said, uh-uh. Yeah. I don't blame. Other races of women are just way more feminine. It's like I'm always in competition with a black woman. Like women, like, wanted to please you. Yeah. They want to make you happy.
Starting point is 01:00:47 It's like nowadays, like a lot of black women, they're like, what are you going to do for me? It's all about them. But it was like that during the good old days. Black women wanted to please their man, their husband, their boyfriends, their everything. It changed, man. And I was a witness to the change.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Yeah, I think, I don't know, like the black family structure's been destroyed. And once you destroy that, I don't think you could bring it back. I mean, that's going to be so. Black families out there that, you know, that do the right thing and their kids are going to be successful. But they're going to be in a minority. I don't think the problem that is hurting the black community. I don't think you can fix that. Not unless the Democrats and civil leaders change their mindset.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Yeah, and tell us the actual truth. Yeah, Democrats are not going to let that happen. They're going to keep them more where they can be dependent on them, I think. Look how they fight it Donald Trump right now. Donald Trump is trying to make a smaller government so that people become more independent, They don't want that. They're fighting him like night and day because they don't want that.
Starting point is 01:01:48 During this last election, 96% of black women voted for Kamala. That just shows you just how lost the black woman, the black community, because the black woman runs the black community now. And women run the Democratic Party. Look how wicked they've become.
Starting point is 01:02:06 You know. Got women, I mean, men and women sports and got men and women's bathroom. The only reason why that is is because of the wickedness of women. Yeah. It is very evil people. Yeah, they help come through the women.
Starting point is 01:02:21 That's why my country is never going to get better because they'll put women in leadership all over the place everywhere. Rarely do you see a man leading now. You're mostly women, doctors, commercials, government, everything. And God did not. create the woman to lead. He created the woman to follow.
Starting point is 01:02:44 And nothing else is going to work, but the man lead and the women follow. That's the only, one of the things I disagree with the Great White Hope about. You know the Great White Hope. Donald Trump. All the way. I disagree that he's putting women
Starting point is 01:02:59 in leadership position. Yeah. A woman almost got him killed. In Secret Service? Yeah. He's very lucky to be alive right now. Well, I put, I don't think he should do that. He has a woman.
Starting point is 01:03:10 woman in charge of the borders. She's something. I forgot where it is. Attorney General? Yeah. Bondy. Right. And then she got all these men around her.
Starting point is 01:03:25 I'm like, that doesn't look right. Do you think a woman doing that because that's how a republic is going to win elections going forward? I thought that too. I said, I bet you it's because of election. Yeah, yeah. Because it looks like
Starting point is 01:03:40 we're misogynistic, no woman's going to vote for a Republican, even if the Republican is right. So they have to like, what's the word? You have to compromise. Yeah, yeah. Do you think a conservative woman could be a good leader? No. No.
Starting point is 01:03:54 She's a conservative Christian woman? No. No. Not built for it. No, it's not in her. Yeah. Really. And she would try, but she's going to be stressed out.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Yeah. You say the wrong thing to her at the wrong time? It goes against a nature. Yeah. You're trying to make. make her be something that's not in her nature. No matter where she's conservative or Democrat or independent, whatever they want to call
Starting point is 01:04:18 them, calling himself, can you imagine yourself being married to a woman to call herself a CEO? I don't know, but she'll be wearing pants now. She's going to make sure you know she's CEO. Yeah, CEO. It scares me every time I get, when I get put up by a cop, I do like, hope it's a white man. I hope it's not a white woman.
Starting point is 01:04:40 And man, I'm gonna pray to God if it's not a black woman. Yeah. Because women like to overcompensate because they're women. It's like they got a chip on the silver. I remember once, I got years ago, I got pulled over by a white guy and a white woman. And the woman had the gun on me. Right. Oh, Lord.
Starting point is 01:05:00 She pulled a gun on you. I'm like, oh Lord, not George, Lord. Yeah, I was nervous because I saw, I was nervous because I saw a gun on you. because I know how emotional women are, I didn't know if she's going to trip out. And I was so glad when they asked for my license, here you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:20 I have no tickets and they let me go, right? Yeah. But I was nervous that that woman was holding a gun on me. Yeah. Really? Yeah. That was scary time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Because women are too emotional. Hey, y'all. We're going to lick y'all in a little secret. Can I tell them our secret? Come here. Come here. When you think of precious metals, you probably think about gold and silver.
Starting point is 01:05:41 But there's another variable metal out there that y'all most likely ain't thinking of. It's tungsten. Yeah, tungsten. What the hell is even that? We didn't know what the hell it was either, but we're going to tell you why so important. Yeah, tungsten is the metal that they used to make all the military weaponry. You can think of, firearms, bullets, missiles, tanks, aircraft, satellites, rockets, and all kinds of other toxicically masculine things. What the hell you need gold for or silver?
Starting point is 01:06:09 Hey, and the craziest thing is 90% of the world's tungsten production is controlled in China, Russia, and North Korea. That's crazy as hell. That doesn't make sense. What's even more crazy is the U.S. has not mined tungsten since 2015. So we have been 100% relying on other countries to give us the key material to make all our critical military gear. But with Trump backing office, all of that is about to change. American tungsten is one of the main companies leading the way to get America's tungsten production back to what it used to be.
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Starting point is 01:07:10 That's what makes it so valuable for weapons manufacturing, computer processing technologies and energy production. It's made of pure tungsten, which is two and a half times denser than steel. To learn more about what American tungsten is doing, and to see how you can invest in tungsten mining in America. Go to American tungsten corp.com and tell them the harsh twins sent you. Yeah. Yeah. So I got to ask, do you create your own thoughts? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:35 You do? I think so, for the most part, yeah. You do. I try to be objective as possible. Like, when I hear something, like Trump say something or the conservators say something or Fox News say something, I look at it from an objective standpoint. And I trust these people, but I got to always, you know, be able to think for myself. I think that's what's hurting people on the left.
Starting point is 01:07:54 There's no objectivity. Everything they say, they repeat it verbatim. Yeah, they get sheep. And so you create your own thoughts. How do you do that? I'm just looking from both points of view and try to put them, try to look it from every point of view perspective. Like when Trump came out and said he wanted to take over guys a strip, I didn't agree with that.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Oh, you didn't? I'm already planning my vacation over there. What a-huh. That's beautiful. That's like probably the best real estate in the world. Yeah, I've seen it. I've been over there before, so you're right. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 01:08:25 It's beautiful. It's religious and beautiful. Yeah, and it's sacred. And so how do you create your own thought? My own thoughts? No. By just looking at whatever the issue is from my point of view. and nobody else's.
Starting point is 01:08:41 And from there, and I go from there, pretty much. And so you create all your own thoughts. Yeah. I like to think so. A lot of times where I create my own thought, I do a lot of listening. I listen to both points of view. Okay. And so if you create your own thought,
Starting point is 01:08:58 why do you create thoughts that make you feel bad at times? Make you afraid or worry or feel something. Why do you create those kind of thoughts? I really, over the, I would say the last 20 years in my life when I had this awakening not to blame anybody for what's going on in my life. Of course. A lot of those thoughts went away. When I think of things as bad, I said, well, it's the truth.
Starting point is 01:09:21 It's out of my control just because I look at those things that make me feel bad as a way I can grow and improve. Really? Yeah. And why do you create bad thoughts sometimes? Evil. Evil? Because I'm an evil person at times.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Yeah, you got us over here thinking about white women And so how do you create an evil thought? How do I create it? Yeah. I don't know it's the devil in me sometimes. It's human nature. Yeah. And I just try to...
Starting point is 01:09:54 Tell me the step you take to create an evil thought. They're women. Fuck, I don't know, Jeff. That's a deep-ass question. shit is deep. Well, evil thought is. Tell me the step you take, number one, two, three, four,
Starting point is 01:10:13 step you take to create a evil thought. Well, it's something I don't create. I mean, evil thoughts pop up in my mind is if you act on them or not. But you say you create them. Yeah, we all create them. Like jealousy, that's like an evil emotion.
Starting point is 01:10:27 How do you create a jealous thought? Tell me to step you take. In being something what they have. Yeah, it's just envying being something somebody else has and you feel like you deserve it more than them. But you got to have a thought to have their jealous feeling. Tell me the step you take to create a jealous thought. Explain this shit to me.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Well, Jesse, I don't have really jealous or envy or anything. But my problem is when I see a beautiful attractive woman just involuntary. I don't have to think anything. I'm like, wow, I bet she's great in bed. You know, those thoughts, evil thoughts, wicked thoughts. Do you create good thoughts? Mm-hmm. I think so. Tell me the step you take to create a good thought.
Starting point is 01:11:09 When a woman's hitting on me, I don't act on it, and I go home and I kiss my wife. What? Right, right? Shut up, Kim. Tell me the step you take to create a good thought. One, two, three, how do you do it? The steps I take to make a good thought. To create a good thought.
Starting point is 01:11:38 I don't know. I just when I see something that's not evil, like when I see Trump, that makes a good thought in my head, you know? When I see a black... But how do you create... It's an evil thought in my mind. What a mess. But tell me the stuff that you take to create a good thought.
Starting point is 01:11:57 I don't think I take a step. It's like it's the good inside of me that creates it. You know? I don't have to create it. What do you mean by that? Like if I'm a good person versus a bad person, if something presents itself, it's based on how I react to that moment or that thing or that occasion, just going to create a good or bad thought.
Starting point is 01:12:22 And so you're a good person? I think so. I try to be. What's good about you? I don't kill people. I don't take drugs. I'm raised to my family to do the right thing. Yeah, I'm not envious.
Starting point is 01:12:35 I'm not envious. I don't look at other people's possess. and say, wow, I wish I had that. So tell me how you create a good thought. I don't know. I think it's based on how you live. But why do you think you create thoughts if you don't know how you do it? Why do you think you create them?
Starting point is 01:12:55 Maybe it's a high being that's creating them. Who? A high being. What did that mean? Man upstairs. You think he created bad thoughts? I think he gave me ability to decide what's right and wrong. and what's good and what's bad you think he create bad thoughts no no I created
Starting point is 01:13:14 those how do you do it because it's a sin tell me how you do it because everybody wants everybody thinks the grass the green one other side no but how do you create a thought you're not telling you yeah I don't know just why won't you just tell us I'm gonna let Jesse fill us in because I'm lost so you guys are not able to tell me how you said you create your own thought you create the good was that the bad one right But you're not telling me how? I don't think you can put in the words. I think it's instincts.
Starting point is 01:13:45 It's natural. What? Yeah. Yeah. Do you have anger? I get frustrated at times. I don't have a lot of anger. Do you have anger?
Starting point is 01:13:58 No. I get frustrated, but I don't really express anger or violence. Frustrated is anger. Yeah, it's a form of being anger. Yeah. So you do have anger? A little bit. A little bit.
Starting point is 01:14:10 A little bit. You have anger. Right. Right? And where does the anger come from? Mama. Mama. It started that, that's for sure.
Starting point is 01:14:19 But where does it come from? Bad past experiences. Bad past experiences? Bad past, and you say? The devil. Why don't you drop your anger, have no anger at all? Mm-hmm. I think for the most part I have.
Starting point is 01:14:33 No, why don't you just drop it, period, and never feel anger again, no matter what happens. Right. Right, right. No, that was a question. Yeah. Yeah. Why don't you drop it? Because I'm used to having them.
Starting point is 01:14:45 Having her anger. You don't know, dude. Right. That's for sure. I don't know. I guess it's easier to say it than done. But yeah, I think for the most part, I dropped a lot of bad experience and I just try to go forward without. Why not drop all the anger and never, and get to the point that nothing or no one or no situations can ever make you angry?
Starting point is 01:15:06 Well, it's going to be. Why not drop it? Hey, why don't we do that, man? It's impossible to drop the hatred I have for these dumb negress. That would take an act of God. You can drop it. Yeah, drop it. Right, you can drop it.
Starting point is 01:15:20 But you can get a helpful reminder every day. Like, if you forgive them, it brings more inner peace than you. Yeah. May I say, you've never created a thought in your whole life. No. You have never had an original thought in your entire life. Everything's a remit. have never created a thought.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Mm-hmm. You agree to it? I think you're right. And why? Because humans been here for how long, and everything that I went through, they went through it many times over. Yeah. A lot of different generations, through generation after generation.
Starting point is 01:15:54 A lot of gripes that you may have, you probably got those same graphs because you heard somebody else gramp about it, you know? A lot of past experiences from other people becomes yours based on your culture, your religion, all thoughts, all lives. all the time about anything. No such thing is a true thought. So if I say men have dicks, that's not true. What?
Starting point is 01:16:22 That's not a thought. That's not a thought. You already know that. That's a fact. Yeah. You have never created a thought. You never can and you never will. You've been listening to the imagination.
Starting point is 01:16:38 And the imagination has set you up to make you think is you because you identify it with it. You call the imagination, you call the thought you, you say, I'm this and I'm that, I'm lonely or I'm afraid or I'm whatever, right? And you identify with evil who you identify with thoughts. And they bring on emotions. You can't even have emotion unless you had a thought first.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Right. You can't even feel good in this fall of state unless you have a good thought, what you think is a good thought. You think about someone and you feel good. You think about your kids or your wife or something, and you feel good. But if you didn't have that thought,
Starting point is 01:17:21 you can never feel anything about it. All thoughts are coming from evil. All thought is of the ego, and we are not our thoughts, and we have never created a thought, and they are not from God. That's why you have to die from thoughts. You have to stop identifying with them.
Starting point is 01:17:38 And when you do that, you've got to drop the anger first because anger is evil and angers of your father and the devil right and it causes you to when you were traumatized as a kid you were innocent you know how when kids are born unless they've been traumatized in the womb they're innocent they forgive they play around and look around the little world and then mama come along and pose her will make them angry in their very moment kids lose sight of God and wake up to evil in their imagination. And they grew up living in their thoughts because nobody ever
Starting point is 01:18:12 telling them, you know, and drop that anger, you can drop those thoughts. What? You know what, Jesse, come to think of it? All the videos I've seen you in, you've never been angry. And I used to be angry. Yeah. I was angry. I used to have fear, doubt.
Starting point is 01:18:29 But when I realized I needed to forgive my mother because I didn't know I resented my mother. I thought I loved my mother. but that's a false love, right? And once I went and forget, it was the hardest thing I ever had to do. I was 38 at the time. And I was shaking in my boots,
Starting point is 01:18:46 but I had to go face her and forgive her what she's done. And she apologized. She's like, I'm sorry. I didn't know I had done it to you. And she told me about her mother. Her mother did the same to her. Yeah. And when I forgave her, God forgave me,
Starting point is 01:18:59 he took away fear, he took away anger, and he gave me perfect peace. When she forgives, and then he started to allow me to see I was living in my head. He said to bring every thought into captivity. Your thoughts are not your own. Your thoughts are not his thoughts. And I promise you, once you forgive and become aware of those thoughts,
Starting point is 01:19:21 because this is you. When you're traumatized, you escaped into your imagination. And you started thinking of good and bad in your thoughts. You start judging yourself and other people in darkness, and you call it you. But once you forgive, God's going to bring you out of here, and he's going to take away loneliness, depression, needing, looking for love, suicidal thought, jealousy, envy, strife, and all that.
Starting point is 01:19:48 You take away it makes you free. You have never created your own thought. Disagree with me. I agree. Do you agree? How about you? That makes sense? Yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Really? But somebody who barely passed SAT, you make a lot of sense. I know. Yeah, yeah. Hey, I'll be looking at some. That's why I call myself Black and slow. Black and slow. And I love it.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But if you drop the anger, you would drop the thoughts. And I promise you, you have perfect peace right here on earth. Yeah. What you said, like I see you interview in these black people. When you're trying to relay your message to them, they get upset.
Starting point is 01:20:26 You could see it. Yeah. And you're right, they get still smiling. You're not getting angry, but they are. When you say you people, what do you mean? complaining black people, blaming others for the failure of their parents and their lives, blaming others for whatever it is you complain about. What is it exactly do you want for white people?
Starting point is 01:20:49 She's like, what do you? First of all, I'm just going to take a back. And I'm trying to find out what you want. What's your nationality? American. Are you white? I'm Black American. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:21:10 What do you want? She's trying to deflect. Why do you think that? Why do you say that? Because you seem to separate yourself from, from us, should I say, put us on the other side of the fence. In the ways that you specified thus far. Meaning what? Tell me, give me that example and tell me what you mean.
Starting point is 01:21:34 How do you mean, what do you people want from white people? from white people meaning that I'm not with you. Oh okay. I got it's just y'all by yourself. Let me explain why I do that. What you don't know is that there are two realities in life. One is that of good and one is that of evil. And now that I've been able to overcome evil, I don't identify with angry, evil black people. I identify with other blacks and others who are on the side of good. And so that's why I say you people, because I have to divide myself or separate myself from evil and go along with good. So that's why I do that. What is it then makes us evil? I'm sorry, your anger, you're blaming others for your problems,
Starting point is 01:22:19 your lack of love and respect for yourself and others. Okay. Amazing. I get it now. I mean, I was just caught up in a moment, you know, looking at the response by, I understand the meaning by everything that you ask. My thing in life is that I know. I know. now know for sure and without a doubt. We have never done anything wrong. We're not guilty. We're not innocent. We're not sinners and we're not saints. We're not wrong. We have never done anything wrong.
Starting point is 01:22:52 What we have done is identify with the enemy of our imagination. Satan made a home in our imagination and he influenced it. He has no power, but he can influence you to think and do things. It's not you, right? God said all of our sins have been wiped away. We're really free. And the moment you stop listening to the imagination, you're going to see that you are free
Starting point is 01:23:17 and that you've been listening to thoughts and they bring on emotions and they've been making you act out and do things that you wouldn't ordinary do. Think things that you wouldn't ordinary think. And so I counsel with men and women around the world, everybody have the same problem. It's a spiritual problem.
Starting point is 01:23:36 and they're angry, they're angry, and they're living in their imagination, and they think that it's them. That's why they judge. I tell people, hey, stop judging. Don't judge with thoughts, don't judge with looks, looking at people, don't judge with words, gestures, or any of that. And it's hard for them not to judge because they think that they're their thoughts. Isn't that amazing?
Starting point is 01:24:00 Yeah. And the devil's treat speak all kinds of everything. He speaks Japanese. He speaks Mexican. He speaks Chinese. He speaks Chinese. He speaks Chinese. Oh, it was a rice.
Starting point is 01:24:16 He speaks black. He speaks the same language to everybody. It is not going to change until you drop the English. Yeah, I noticed your message is like rebuilding like the black man. Yes. Do you think, because of the media
Starting point is 01:24:31 and the Democrats' stronghold on black people, Do you think you can save the black man? There are black men and women around the world, even in Africa, who are hearing the message of forgiving their mothers, because they just didn't know. They thought they loved their mothers because they feel that emotional love, and that's not love.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Emotional love is hate. It's not love. There's no feeling to real love. God is a dispassionate guy. He's not a passionate guy. Satan is a passionate spirit. And so I'm talking to men and women around the world. of all races, and they realize
Starting point is 01:25:07 I do hate my mother. My mother did impose on me. My mother did do this and that. And once they go and forgive, they become free. And so I'm really talking to, we have talking to men and women around the world every day, man. And it's the same thing.
Starting point is 01:25:24 They're fighting with their wives. The wives are taking their children. Even in Japanese, the wives are taking their children away from the fathers. Yeah. Because the spirit is just the same. same. Our battle is a spiritual battle, and we still can enjoy life and have fun, laugh. Correct jokes. Right, but you'll be free. And you'll be able to see the other people
Starting point is 01:25:47 what's going on with them, and you will have the right kind of love for them because you will realize it's not them. It's something else that's driving them and just a way we drove you until you were able to overcome it. That makes sense? Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. So there's no such thing as racism is a spiritual battle. Yes. Racism was a made-up word by the civil rights leaders. That's why if you notice, they may use the racism for the last 70 years. Right. And the blacks have not gotten better. Got worse. Yeah. They went from racism to affirmative action, to reparations, and now they're GEI. Right. And then they brought in the other people, the Mexicans and everybody, people of color, to go against the white man.
Starting point is 01:26:31 because the white man have more often than anybody else, right? Right. But there never has been racism. It's been good versus evil. It's been a spiritual battle the whole time. The whole time. And the blacks knew that.
Starting point is 01:26:45 That's why they told us to treat everybody the same. Right. White people and everyone, because it's a spiritual battle. Do you think Dr. Martin Luther King, you think he was a good man? No. Yeah. He was a mess.
Starting point is 01:26:57 He was a socialist. He was sleeping with a lot of white prostitutes on him. Well, I don't know about that, but I know that he was a socialist. No. Because he set himself up at the leaders of the blacks and convinced them that they have problems. They're going to integrate the schools. They're going to force this and forth that. It was all about socialism.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Now, I don't know if he started out with the right intent and then something happened along the way. Right. But he was a socialist. Who would you, because you knew Malcolm X and Monty King, who is your favorite? Between those two? Between those two. Originally when I was blind, I thought of Marlonon Key has been in the, but now Malcolm X. Michael Max?
Starting point is 01:27:39 Because he was against integration and all this. Yeah. Malcolmette was angry too. He hated his mother. He really did. And he went to prison according to the report and the Bush of Iraq. And he met Louis Farrakhan folks. And they encouraged him into blue-eyed devil.
Starting point is 01:27:55 And he became even angry at white people. Right. And then he finally lost their story. was sure he finally went to Mecca and he saw all races together, which had been the message. Correcting the same thing. Yeah. And he realized he had been lied to by Lewis Farrakhan people.
Starting point is 01:28:11 And he came back. He was like, no, you've been lying to me. And he realized white people and black people got along. And that's when accorded to the report, they changed on him because he said, no, I'm not following this anymore. And they turned on him. And that's why he's been taken out according to report. So I like him for
Starting point is 01:28:29 I respect him for that Because we all got to You can change You don't have to stay in your hell You could overcome hell But most people love their hell Yeah they do Especially black folks
Starting point is 01:28:41 Yeah they love it Yeah they love talking about slavery It's like they worship it They don't want you to tell them How to overcome their hell We become a sellout You can become a little white Little black folks
Starting point is 01:28:52 You can make it The white man is not holding you down And you can be free The white men, they don't want to believe that. They'll get mad at you. They'll attack you. They'll call your names if you try to make them friends. So that's why I leave people in their hell.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Okay, stay in your hell. You just broke me out of my hell. Stay in your hell. Most people love that misery. Right. Only a few would get on that strained and narrow and overcome. Only a few. I hold these women's form every Thursday night on a month.
Starting point is 01:29:27 And the men's form on first Thursday night on the month and Sunday morning for everybody. You should see the black women in these meetings. They didn't know they resented their mothers. Yeah. They didn't realize that their mothers had turned them against their father. That's why they hate black men. Yeah. They treat black men in the way.
Starting point is 01:29:43 But once they go and forgive their mothers because they realize that the mothers turn them away from their fathers, everything changed. Everything changes because they see now. And they start to respect black men and all men in the right way. But they didn't know because they saw how the mother did their fathers. And they blamed the fathers. How did you come up with this? Will you talk this or did you? No, I told you that I resented my mother growing up.
Starting point is 01:30:10 My mother hated my father. Because what happened was my father and mother were dating as teenagers. And he got a pregnant. And when they had sex, they were standing up. You ever had sex standing up? Oh, my God. You got to have the right size woman. I'm kind of tall.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Oh, you need a stool. But your leg's going to be burning. And so they were standing up. Your parents? They were standing up. What, from the back or what? What do you think? From the front?
Starting point is 01:30:42 Black people didn't do it that way, I'm telling you. They didn't do it like dogs? No. That used to be just a white person's thing. White people think. Really? Yeah. White people got all the great ideas.
Starting point is 01:30:53 Yeah. They know how to invent. What would we be without the white man? Yeah, black men just lay on the floor of missionary. White man came down. Man, that's the old school, man. Put that bitch on a knee. What, nah.
Starting point is 01:31:10 And so they had to say standing up. Okay, your practice. My father told me this story. That's how I found out about it. And so my mother got pregnant while I'm standing. Have a second. And when she told my father about it, He was like 18 or so, I think.
Starting point is 01:31:28 He was like, no, that's not my baby. I can't make no babies. You can't make a baby standing up. I used to, we all grew up thinking that you could not make children standing. Right. You just that slow Negro mind. That's that black mind. Y'all thought gravity wasn't going to allow her to get pregnant.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Right. You had to be laying down. And so he's like, no, no, no, that's my mind. And my mother got mad at him. And from that point, she didn't want me to have anything to do with him. him and he, because he lied. Because she's like, he denied it, blah, blah, right? So she got married to my stepfather before I was born
Starting point is 01:32:03 because it was an embarrassment for black women to be pregnant to have children out of where a lot. Right. So she made sure I had a father, you know, in the house. And so she didn't want anything to do with him, and so she tried to keep me away from him. But as a kid, I had this longing for my father. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:32:23 Really, something was missing in my life. and I knew it was my father that I would year for it. I would ask my mother, oh, forget about him. He doesn't care. But I wanted him, and I didn't care about what it happened with them. I wanted my father.
Starting point is 01:32:37 And my mother was nice. You know, she provided, she did everything she's supposed to do. But I would yearn it for my father. And so I grew up insecure with doubt and fear. I was afraid of women. I used to date women.
Starting point is 01:32:53 And then when they would get mad, I didn't know how to deal with them. And when I broke up with them, I would have to have another woman waiting in the ring. Yeah, some backup. Yeah, because I didn't have to be with that one, being lonely. You know, I used to ride up and down the coast. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:20 I used to play in that song, playing that song, sitting by the dock on the bay. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I would have to hurry up and get another, but when they got mad, I didn't know how to deal with it. And I was like, wow, I'm afraid of women. I don't know what to do. Used to be a beta, huh?
Starting point is 01:33:33 All beta. Beta, beta, beta, beta. And so I finally asked me going to church and I would ask to preach. I'm like, look, I have fear. I'm afraid to deal with women in the right. What's wrong with me? And they would say, oh, you need to pray. I'm like, but I'm praying.
Starting point is 01:33:55 Yeah, praying fixes everything. Right. You need to read the Bible. I'm reading the Bible. Right. Though I could never learn the Bible, I could never remember the Bible. Right, yes. Y'all ever read the Bible?
Starting point is 01:34:05 Yeah, I've read it, but it's like in old English, and it's just the way it's... I can never remember the Bible, like the other Christians. Yeah. They can quote that Bible like, and nasty and mean as hell. Yeah. Yeah. Some people use that Bible for evil. Yes.
Starting point is 01:34:20 One percent. Yeah. And so I can never remember. I'm like, but on my God. read the Bible. I'm volunteering at church. I play by and I'm still have fear. I'm still afraid. So finally one day, lost ever short, I asked God, you know what? I have all this fear and I'm doing all these things. The preacher tell me it's not working. What is wrong with me? Why am I so emotional?
Starting point is 01:34:43 And honestly, I forgot I asked. And one day I would get it up to go to work and I was in the mirror dressing and he allowed me to see that my heart was evil. I saw this wickedness inside of me that it was a darkness I'd never seen before and it just came at a glance and I saw I'm like wow I didn't know I was so dark on the inside and then he allowed me he caused me to realize that come from my mother that I resented her because prior to that I did not know I resented my mother and so I knew I had to forgive her and so she came to LA to visit her sister so I went over to visit and driving over there I was in fear I was trembling because I had the faith right and you're afraid of who you hate whomever you're angry at they control you and so I got
Starting point is 01:35:29 there I get into the house I'm like hey I got to talk to you and the devil was telling me oh you're gonna mess up her vacation she's having fun it you know black women get together they laugh and loud and they carry on but I say hey I got to talk to you she went into the room and I said to her all my life I've been resenting you and I realize now you couldn't help yourself and I'm sorry I realize you couldn't help yourself and then at that very very moment God forgave me and everything changed. He took away to fear. He took away to doubt. He took away everything. And I've been growing and understanding it ever since then. That's why I tell you, you've got to forgive. It's not, you're never going to be free.
Starting point is 01:36:09 You're never going to have perfect peace until you forgive your mothers and your father. And you can literally have perfect peace and still have an amazing time. I'm enjoying myself. But you got to drop the anger. Yeah. Yeah. You don't have to be angry. It's abnormal for human beings to be angry. Right. You did an interview of a gay pastor. Yeah. Right? How did that stuff? Wonder.
Starting point is 01:36:34 It's like an oxymoron. Those two don't go together. But I've noticed when I go to churches, a lot of preachers, pastors, and I was totally oblivious to this when I was younger, but now when I look at pastors and these people that call themselves men of God, they're all gay. That's because growing who you were. younger, black people have more dignity about themselves. They had an issue, but they didn't advertise it. They didn't
Starting point is 01:37:00 flaunt it. They may not have understood how to have not understood how to overcome it, but they didn't do it, but now black people like the white people, they tell everything. And they think that that's who they are, they promote it. But in the good old day, that was unheard of. You did not put your...
Starting point is 01:37:16 A homosexual pastor? I am a homosexual pastor, yes. How long have you been a homosexual? pastor. I've been a pastor for eight years, a senior pastor, and then before that, I was a youth pastor. Oh, okay. Why do you think that God would call a person a homosexual to be a pastor, but not change him? So I don't think that God majors where we minor. I think that we put limitations on God that God doesn't have. And if you go to seminary or something like that, there's a thought process that God could possibly be a woman
Starting point is 01:37:57 or that God could be this or that God could be that. That God can be whatever it is that you need to be. You believe that he can be a woman? I believe that God can be whatever it is that you need him to be. So can it be a homosexual to if you needed him to be one? You know, I didn't know that guy was gay. Yeah. Oh, you did?
Starting point is 01:38:19 No. I got to tell as soon as he opened his mouth. The way that I found out, he had another guy with him. And so while they were way to set up the studio, you know, to get ready to start. This other guy was sitting out in the audience there, in an auditorium there. And I asked, who was that? Because I thought, I mean, he was a body guy or something. He's like, that's my...
Starting point is 01:38:41 Oh, he's a body guy already. I think he said something like, that's my husband. Or they're going to get married or something like that. Yeah. I'm like, really? And he said, yeah. What Bible are they reading? Must be the Homestrian Bible.
Starting point is 01:38:56 And so I said to him, so during the interview, because I never asked people of their private business at all. I never go personal unless they bring it up first. And then I ask them about it, right? But I never go personal. And so I asked him, he said to me,
Starting point is 01:39:14 I'm going to get married, those two guys. I said, really? this before the show started. And so during the show, I asked him, if you got to get married, who's going to be the husband? Yeah. Who's going to be your wife?
Starting point is 01:39:30 And right away, he got ticked. Yeah. And I was surprised he got ticked, because he didn't want to tell me he was that way. I didn't ask. Right. He was the one that said, I thought he would be proud and happy to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:39:42 Right. Honestly, I'd never imagine he would get mad. Right. Because he had said to everybody in the room, that was going to be his husband. or they were getting married, right? So I'm like, who's going to be the wife and who's going to be the husband?
Starting point is 01:39:55 So. Just set them off. And I didn't know he would get mad. The same thing happened with a Catholic priest I interviewed. And I didn't know the Catholic priest again. Yeah, I saw that one too. Because, again, I don't ask me
Starting point is 01:40:10 when they tell them, don't tell me if you don't want to talk about, I don't mention it. You have a right to keep it. I am. Are you playing something? Yeah, I got it. Just before we started the show, you said that you introduced your, is it your husband or your wife? Is that your husband?
Starting point is 01:40:26 Yeah, bring it up on the screen. Or your wife? Yeah, we don't see it. I'm going to end this interview. Why? Because I, because we're ending this right now. Why are you on it? We're ending it.
Starting point is 01:40:39 Right. Take this off. When you want to have a real conversation? I'm having, no, you're bullshit in it. I'm not going to, I'm not going to be a part of that. Come take this off. off of me or aren't going to take it with me. But while you
Starting point is 01:40:53 running. Come take this off of me, aren't going to take it with me. Please take it off of me. You're disrespecting me. But no, man, he's really. Please take it off. Am I going to take it with me? That's the husband talking. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:10 He's got to be the wife. And so the only way I knew about that, he told me. And so you know how to give people love and proudly talk about that stuff. right? Right.
Starting point is 01:41:22 So I thought, honestly, I thought he were going to be proud to talk about it too. And he said, oh, we're getting married, I'm doing this. But he got mad. And I was surprised. And I was surprised when he left. Really? I still don't understand what Bible he read. Then we had a gay preacher come.
Starting point is 01:41:39 Preach, you saw that right? I didn't know the good, the pre-for gay. You know how I noticed men are gay? How? Look at them in the eyes. Yeah, now you can tell. The eyes are glowing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:49 You can tell. Yeah. And so I didn't know until the gay priest said, on the show, I'm gay. I'm like, what? Why are you telling me this? Yeah. Because what doesn't have to do with anything, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:42:00 But I know now they're proud of that because they think that that's who they are. They'll believe that the trauma of the spirit of the mother are them. They really hate their mothers. And because they really hate them, they have her total identity. So they really do feel like a woman. When they say they feel like a woman, they do. Yeah. Because they have the spirit of their mother.
Starting point is 01:42:22 And then the world tell them that's you. That's who you are. They don't tell you to forgive. That's not you. God would take it away from you. They tell them that's who they are. And then they organize and start an organization. And they suffer.
Starting point is 01:42:35 Yeah. For eternity. Yeah. They're lonely. They're lost. They're empty. They're alcoholists and drug addicts because they're still lost. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:44 I feel about like gay couples adopting kids. No. Yeah. I'm totally against them. Yeah. I'm not for that at all. That should not happen. Right.
Starting point is 01:42:52 Yeah. It should not happen at all. But that's the world we live. This world is hell on earth. Because of women. I'm majority of things wrong. It's women. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:43:05 They bring hell into the earth. The gates of hell comes through the woman. So you know how these... And I want to say, though, it's not her. Yeah. It's that sphere in her. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:17 That's why they can overcome it, too. That's why our forefathers didn't want women voting. Right. Yeah. But people like to paint, our forefathers, these racist, misogynistic men, but the reason why they don't want women to... Because what we got going on today.
Starting point is 01:43:32 And in all honesty, in the good old day, with boys and boys and men were men, the women were safe. Women are not supposed to lead. Women are... Women would never work for another woman. They didn't want to work for a woman. They didn't want a woman bar because they knew how nasty they can be.
Starting point is 01:43:49 They thought that women shouldn't vote. And they were right about that because women voted in due to emotions. They voted in all the wrong things. Daycare health centers and abortion. Abortion. Transgender. Yeah, right. Men and women sports.
Starting point is 01:44:04 Absolutely. And then they say that women should be leading because it's not in their nation. Women used to say that out loud all the time. It wasn't like something they hear and said. They said it out loud. Yeah. And then when their children were taken away, when they were divorced or separation, husband and wife or accident out of the redlock, the father would keep the children and not the mother.
Starting point is 01:44:33 It used to be perfect like that, but it's all changed, such a women movement. Well, this child support came from because I went through that. Women voting. Yeah, because child support is not child support. That money goes all to the woman. And everybody knows that, too. They know that the woman used the money for herself, not for the kids. But because women control everything now, and the courts are on the woman's side,
Starting point is 01:44:55 they know how to cry to make you feel bad for them, which is not true. So that's why I know so many guys that they lost their children. The woman go to court and take control of their children. And even if the court said, well, you have a right to visit your children, she'll make it difficult for the father and a senior child. Yeah, yeah. She'll make it absolutely impossible. She doesn't care what the court saying.
Starting point is 01:45:16 Yeah. She's still making it impossible. and still get the money. What a mess! Yeah, I've been through all that crap. Amazing, huh? Yeah, feminism destroyed the woman's mindset and that rightful place in society.
Starting point is 01:45:30 And now men, I mean, women's been empowered and look what they're doing. Yeah. You got men in women sports. Yeah. Because of the woman vote. Men don't want this. It's women that want it.
Starting point is 01:45:41 I'm okay with men playing in women's sport. Yeah. It's got to be queer, right? You know why? Why? because they want women to play a men's sport. Women want to play a men sport. They want to judo,
Starting point is 01:45:53 we would have fight judo and boxing. And so nobody complained about that. Yeah, right. And then when I asked, well, why come you want women to play, it's okay for women to play in men's sport? The man is stronger than women. I know that.
Starting point is 01:46:10 But the man weakened himself to let her win. Same thing with men playing the women's sport. And personally, it shouldn't be that way. Men should not play a women's sport, and women should not play a men's sport. But if it's wrong for the man to play in the women's sport, it should be wrong for women to play a men's sport. Right.
Starting point is 01:46:30 Women don't make it in a man's sport because they can't make it. Right. The man had to weaken himself. Yeah, yeah. And they have destroyed everything that's all men. Private clubs where men feed and smoke cigars are just off. Golf course, where men would go. go and play golf.
Starting point is 01:46:48 Yeah. Do business talk together. Boy Scouts. Yeah, boys'outs. They literally got rid of the Boy Scout. Yeah. And they got every, they have gotten rid of everything
Starting point is 01:46:59 that's all men. Yeah. And so. It's a misogynistic. It's sexist. They call it sex. But yet, they want private women clubs. They want private everything
Starting point is 01:47:09 for the woman, but not for the man. So along they can say women can play a men's sport. Men can play a women's sport. Yeah. Like the biggest sham I saw in my lifetime was BLM, and it was started by a bunch of black lesbians. Fat, radical black lesbians! Yeah, wicked women.
Starting point is 01:47:27 Who hate men. Yeah. Who hate the order of God. And they even said it. They don't believe in God. Yeah. They don't believe in men and women being together like that, and yet they destroyed the country.
Starting point is 01:47:40 You know, like we saw that, right, Black Lives, Man. We know it was a sham. I wonder why black people can't see that for what it is. they hate white people. Yeah. They identify with the color. Because they're the racist. Right.
Starting point is 01:47:51 Yeah. They got that anger in the heart. They can't let go. Absolutely. What a mess, huh? Yeah. But this is not, only a few people
Starting point is 01:48:00 are going to work on themselves. As a dog, we are responsible for ourselves to overcome our hell. And only a few people are going to take that straight and narrow path to overcome their misery.
Starting point is 01:48:11 It's going to always be this way on earth because of the heart of human beings or evil, right? but if you were to work on yourself, you can have a perfect peace in the midst of that you have raised, you gotta have your own family, right? You can raise amazing children,
Starting point is 01:48:25 amazing family because you go to pass on love to your children and it won't be about color and they will start a generation of love rather than hate because the love will come through to fathers. But the world itself, most people are not going to do it. They love their misery. Right, they love their misery. But we can change ourselves and our own.
Starting point is 01:48:46 families is up to us. Amazing, huh? Yeah, it is amazing. It is amazing. What a mess. So, before I have to go, don't I, ain't it up now? Yeah. About time for Jesse to go.
Starting point is 01:48:59 I go back to the hood. You don't live in the hood. No, I don't. I live with the Jews. Yeah, you live with the Jews? I love the Jews. You're a Jew lover, huh? I love the Jews.
Starting point is 01:49:14 One of my requirements. Thank you. What about? Hey, what's the questions? Oh, black would be the game. Are you? I'm ready. Why do you think it's appropriate to just run up in our interview mid-conversation?
Starting point is 01:49:28 I don't get a lot. They white and I don't give a fuck a whole pay for me. Are you just looking for attention? No, never. I never gave fuck. We want to be fun because of everybody. Maybe. But if I'm in the middle of a conversation with two people,
Starting point is 01:49:43 I'm sorry, y'all, he said this spake-down bow. What? What's the problem now? What's the problem now? See, she's ready to fight. Yeah. Yeah, they're afraid. Yeah. That's so sad, though, man.
Starting point is 01:49:58 Because these women are suffering. Yeah. They're looking for the love of a father. Yeah, they got so much pain in them. They want you to feel that thing too. You want to make your life. That's what hell is. That's what the black women are doing to the black men,
Starting point is 01:50:10 giving them all the misery and pain that they have. Yeah. They're dropping it off on the men. See, that's why I stopped dating. I don't blame you. I really don't blame you. I understand that. But it's got to change.
Starting point is 01:50:23 I mean, it's not going to change, but individuals can change. It can get better for each individual and their family, but human beings love imposing their misery on others because they're miserable, and they call it life, right? But it can change for the individual, all people. All human beings, if they want perfect peace, they're going to have some forgive their mothers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:46 All who are born of the flesh must be born as a spirit. Yeah. No way around it. Like you said, individually, people can do that, but as the black community
Starting point is 01:50:54 as a whole, never happened. It's over. Yeah. Well, just look at Africa, the continent. Yes. They're broken up
Starting point is 01:51:00 in a different country and they hate each other. Yes. They really do. Yeah. They hate each other. But black people here want to go back there.
Starting point is 01:51:07 That's the motherland. Yeah, but the blacks don't want them over there. I know. They really don't. I know. They don't like a black American. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:15 And even when they come here and the black from Africa can come here, they go to school, they start businesses, they start their own communities. They're black America. Hate them. You think you're better than us. Right. You're an athletic white man. Exactly. They attack them in the same way.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Why is the black community is the only race of people on this planet that say you're being white? When they're not being white, they're just being educated. Because they hate the white man. Yeah. They hate white people. That's the reason. people say black people can't be racist you heard that before right they said everybody can be raised but them right they came up with the word right and everybody can be racist but
Starting point is 01:51:56 them right right right oh let me say about the Jews okay so so growing up um um as a Christian growing up we were taught and it's true that Christians and Jews are a one. If it wasn't for Judaism, there would be no Christianity because Jesus was to do. Yeah, it was Arshian, the non-Jewan people, usher in.
Starting point is 01:52:26 And so we're brothers and sisters in Christ, right? And I read so much about Israel growing up. And it's all in the Bible, all over the Bible. So I always wanted to go to Israel so I can see Israel in the Bible, right? So I finally got a chance to go. As a matter of fact, you went? Yeah, two trips over there.
Starting point is 01:52:46 I went with a bunch of people from Bond, and then we went back and took another group of people. And we literally walked through the Bible. It was like amazing to be seeing in reality of the things that we read about. And I even saw where Christ laid when he died, and they put him in a little true thing. We saw that. And it was amazing to see it.
Starting point is 01:53:13 And so he took other people back. So my requirement now, if you want to go to heaven, you have to go to Israel first. Yeah. I heard that before, too. But I've seen these videos like Jews spitting on Christians. What was that all about? You go to always, because of religion, that's why God is not about religion. He's not in religion at all.
Starting point is 01:53:35 God said that we should worship him in spirit and in truth. Not in religion, right? And so anytime you belong to a religion, you think your religion is better than the next religion. Right. And so they fight. People fight over religion and God is nowhere in there. Like this is like an older video. I guess they're wearing Christian crosses and his Jew kids are like attacking them.
Starting point is 01:54:03 Let us leave. What are in sight be? Boyum. William? Yeah, their problem is that they're following Judaism. they're not following the word of God. Those Jews have like some black girls in South Central
Starting point is 01:54:26 there are they? I guess, can you wear a cross in Israel when you're a walk around? Are you allowed to wear a cross? Because I think that's what started that whole I know that you're not allowed to christen when they go to Israel. They can't, quote-unquote, ministers to other people. To the Jews.
Starting point is 01:54:43 Oh, you can't. You can't preach it. Right. You can't preach it over there. But you can preach. Dudaism? Is that okay? Yeah, it's Israel.
Starting point is 01:54:53 What do you think? You fucking... What? The question is that? So that's wrong, right? But anytime you have religion, you're going to fight. Right.
Starting point is 01:55:03 Because it's like... And that's why God said we should worship him. We should worship him in spirit and truth because in spirit of truth you don't want anything. And there's nothing there
Starting point is 01:55:14 for you to claim and fight over. God is not in religion at all. that man-made, that's why they fight. And so all religions fight each other. No matter the Jew, Allah Waba, or Christian or Mormon, they fight. It's like a marriage. Have you noticed that the moment you get married, or the moment you say this is my girlfriend,
Starting point is 01:55:38 or she say this is my boyfriend, ownership becomes. Now you can't do this, you can't do that, you've got to act this way, you've got to treat this way. Ownership comes. And that's how it is religion. It's like marriage. Once you get married, the woman thinks she own you. And you think you own her.
Starting point is 01:55:56 And if you don't do it my way and that way, you fight one another. And so two devils fighting over ownership. That's what happened with religion. But when you're of the spirit of God, you love all people, even your enemy. You don't agree with all people, but you do love them because you understand it's a spiritual thing. The understanding causing you to understand what's going to. going on with you and it caused you to understand others and you can't hate at all. And you said the area you live in L.A. is a bunch of Jews around you?
Starting point is 01:56:26 I love the Jews. All Jew. All Jews? We're not all Jew now. It's like saying you love all white people. You can't live all white people. Some bad white people. But I love all Jews, all white people, all black.
Starting point is 01:56:40 I have nothing against anyone. Because I understand it's spiritual now. It's not them. It's that thing that made a home in them. And it's causing them to do it. what they do. It's not... Oh, that's why you ask people that question. Do you love all white people? Right.
Starting point is 01:56:53 Because they blame white. Even the Jews blamed the whites. Right, right. And they blame white people for everything that's wrong. Right. Everybody blamed their whites. Yeah, like when Candace Owens lost her job and she was saying, Christ is king, I mean, with the Daily Wire when she walked away from them, and she was making the same Christ as King.
Starting point is 01:57:14 It was pissing off Ben Shapiro, and it seemed like it pissed off Jews. Do Jews hate Christ Jesus Christ? There are Jews who do not believe Jesus is the Son of God, that he came to make us all free. And so, yeah, but there are Jews for Jesus, and they know that Jesus is the Son of God, and that he came to make us free. So you have a mix of that and that too. Even Christians don't believe that Jesus has come already. They think, they're still, they know he came and went back. but they don't know he is returned
Starting point is 01:57:49 and that he live inside of us. Right. They're waiting, they don't know the kingdom of heaven is inside. It's above, but it's inside of us. And they're still waiting
Starting point is 01:57:57 for the end times and the end time has already happened. They're waiting for Jesus to return. If you tell them that Jesus has already returned and he's in it, they attach you. They'll attack you about that.
Starting point is 01:58:12 And that's what some Jews, they don't believe that Jesus is the son of God. They'll still wait. for something to happen. And so they fight with the Jews who believe that Jesus had come already, right? Believe in Jesus. So it's just everywhere. Human beings are evil.
Starting point is 01:58:27 You have the same mess going on. If you understand that, you wouldn't agree with it, but you would not be mad at them for being lost. You just simplified a complicated scenario across the globe. Yeah. Let me ask you this. It's very simple. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:42 It is simple, but if you're in your imagination, everything seemed complicated. Yes. Christ said that for those who believe in him, his ways are easy, his burdens of light. They're simple. And when you're angry, there's nothing simple about you. You're evil, lost, vicious person. What do you think about what's going on in, I guess it used to be called Palestine? What do you think what's happening with the Palestinian people? Do you think the Jews are in the right? The same thing that's happening with every other religion that's fighting in each other. It's based on religion. religion. One thing that their religion is better than the other, they're fighting. When I went over to... It's a holy war.
Starting point is 01:59:26 Yeah. In many ways, yeah. It's a religious war, for sure. They're fighting over religion. They're fighting over a sacred land, too, yeah. When I went over to Israel, it was so interesting in that, Israel gave up a lot of land. And I remember going past the city of David. And the city of David is a city that built in a mountain. and the houses are just like in Hollywood Hills or something
Starting point is 01:59:49 or Beverly Hills. You know how those houses are built right? And it's beautiful but then so the Jews gave that land to the Allah al-Aba people and what do you call them? Palestinian. Is that the same as Al-Iwaba? Yeah
Starting point is 02:00:05 yeah. Whenever I see Allah-U-Aba on the airplane and they had that stuff on there, I get off. Oh yeah? Oh, you're talking about the turban. Yeah, because I think a bomb is under there. Am I wrong?
Starting point is 02:00:26 I guess. Well, there's evil. It's evil. But I love them. Right. But I'm not going to be crazy. No, I love them. I talk to with a lot of all I love my people. Yeah. I really do. Yeah. Yeah. But I ain't going to be crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one thing I do, I hold my neck. You know why I hold my neck, right?
Starting point is 02:00:49 Cover my neck. Oh, they chop your head off? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I've seen those videos about, what, 10 years ago, they started circulating online. I said, man, these people are vicious. Yeah, I just read a report on my show. I got to get you guys on my show.
Starting point is 02:01:03 Yeah, of course. But I did a show the other day where, Nick, how many Christians would kill? Yeah, a lot of Christians are killed by Muslims. Just the other day, reported that. 70 Christians would beheaded Where? By over in Africa. Oh, in Africa?
Starting point is 02:01:21 In Africa, because Africa apparently owns they have some land with some rich stuff on the land and these are all about people want it. And according to report, now, I'm just going about what they said, they beheaded 70 Christians over the land, over the land for the soil, I mean, the middle room or something that they have.
Starting point is 02:01:40 Yeah, black, yeah, black moose. Yeah, all of it's based on Black anything is going to be back you heard of those black Israelites yeah I know they take every oh god they didn't make the Jews look bad I know what a man but in closing because I got to go okay okay I know this is a whole lot of fun yeah yeah and it's an honor to five and get yeah likewise yeah but we got to love one another God came that he could create love through us because he was working through human beings
Starting point is 02:02:17 he wanted to change that and we got to stop fighting about it. Nothing's shot. It doesn't make sense to fight over religion or anything really. And they all fighting over religion, you know. And we got to drop the anger. We got to forgive our mothers
Starting point is 02:02:31 and forgive our fathers for not protection or from the mothers and he couldn't help. And God will forgive us and he would change our heart, salvation is of the heart. And then he would change our nature from evil to good. And he could create love through us.
Starting point is 02:02:44 That's what he's trying to do. But because of the anger, people listen to evil. All thoughts or all lives all the time about anything. And they'll listen to evil thinking that it's them. And they'll treat each other horribly. They treat animals better than they treat each other. Yeah, that's true. Isn't that amazing?
Starting point is 02:03:03 Yeah. They treat animals better than you treat human beings. You all see, I treat my dogs. Steaks. Aquafina. I don't give them no tap water. It's aquafina. What a beta.
Starting point is 02:03:14 That bet you carry your little dog in your arm. I don't do all that just. Hey, where can people find you, Jess. They can go to Rebuilder Demand.com or jessalee peterson.com or the fallenstate. Dot TV.
Starting point is 02:03:30 F-A-L-L-E-N, the Fallen State. Dot TV. And it's all found on YouTube as well, right? Yes, absolutely. Amen. Man, this is an honor. Thank you. It was going to be fun.
Starting point is 02:03:41 I knew it would be fine. But thank you, you guys, for having us here. Thank you for coming. Thank you. And we got to get you on the far estate. Oh, definitely. Yeah. We're going to do that.
Starting point is 02:03:50 Something came up. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, I remember that. What, duh. But I got a plane to catch. Okay. So I can't be playing no more. So listen, forgive your mothers.
Starting point is 02:04:03 Yeah, I will. So you can have a perfect peace. I will. I will. They could not help themselves. Your mother could not help himself. My dad, he couldn't help himself. You couldn't help himself.
Starting point is 02:04:13 Your father loved you. He didn't know how to deal with your mother. Really? So forgive him. And that way, you don't pass this on to your children. Right, right. Because what's going to happen if you don't, you're going to marry women.
Starting point is 02:04:25 I don't care if they're Mexican, Chinese, black, whatever. Ali Akbar. You're going to marry the spirit of your mother because you're attracted to what you hate and she will destroy your children. Yeah. She really will. She won't be able to help her.
Starting point is 02:04:41 Yeah, I'm going to go home tonight and I'm going to set that bit straight. That's right. Tell us she got to forgive her mother because otherwise, while you're at work, they will turn your children against you. Yeah. They won't be able to help them to help them.
Starting point is 02:04:53 Right. So forgive. Forgive. That doesn't mean you agree with evil. Just speak up, but don't be angry, don't hate. Right. Hate no one. Right.
Starting point is 02:05:02 God loves us all. He really does. And he's made us free. we just don't know it because we are angry and living in our imagination. Yeah, living in our imaginations. Living in your imagination. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 02:05:13 Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Amazing. Amazing. Yeah.

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