Hodgetwins Podcast - Hodgetwins & Nerdrotic Are SICK of Hollywood Turning Every Character Either GAY Or BLACK!
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Like, I was watching Ozarks.
That was a great show.
And then the FBI agent was gay.
And then he was fucking his partner.
They were both gay.
And then I was like, where did this come from?
He's like, piss me up with these guys do not come off as gay.
Yeah, then he starts screwing his CI, a redneck hillbilly that was gay.
Yeah, he was gay.
Yeah.
I was like, this is not even believable.
I started watching it.
I didn't like it.
I knew it would get gay.
But that's how they draw you in.
You were two.
too homophobic.
I am too homophobic.
I was like this stuff
is like they cramming it down our throats.
Yeah.
If it makes sense in the story,
like there's, okay,
Umbrella Academy season one
had a really interesting
gay story that made it work
because it was part of the story
and it wasn't a grievous.
But no, I do not seek out two dudes.
It snuck up on me.
It's like, going at it.
I looked at my wife.
I was like, this dude's a faggot.
Yeah.
And then it started one episode
The Black dude was getting sucked off
Yeah, you see somebody's head going down
So oh, he's getting sucked up by a woman
Yeah, and then that's his partner right there
Just sucking them off.
I'm like, man, wow
I said, I looked at my wife
Do they got to put this in everything?
Yeah, they do.
It's part of the, well, it's part of their worldview, right?
And listen, there's no under-representation
of gay people in Hollywood.
We get it.
It's a lot of gay people in Hollywood.
And it's fine if it reflects
the regular population's percentage.
Not Hollywood's...
Well, I mean, shit, everybody's gay in Hollywood.
But, you know, it was fine before,
but now it's feeling forced
and now with all the checkboxes, we notice it.
And when they do a certain casting
or in a third season of a hit show,
they're like, we need to put a gay story in.
Right, right.
We'll show all those chuds
and right-wing Republicans.
Here's some gay rednecks, you know?
And it's the same reason.
I'm a redneck.
And you know, that one show, Law and Order, love that show, right?
But the last season I was watching, it got so woke, she adopted a child, and the child
was telling everybody about there, there's a girl in her school that's non-binary, and we call
it they, and how they suspended kids because they're being cruel to her by calling her a boy.
I stopped watching that show immediately.
Yeah.
I was like, this is stupid.
It's programming at this point, especially when they, you know, with,
procedural TV. They can always put in that
topic of the week in there.
And they always did that. But
that's the programming that they
gender doesn't matter. There is no difference
between boys and girls. And we're all
just going to be like little blobs and gray
suits, eating our
bugs and living in
state property. You know,
that's what they want. That's what they think.
And they think it's progress and they think it's good.
And there is a high percentage, a very
high percentage of trans
kids in Hollywood. You notice that?
Yeah, yeah.
Like everybody.
All their kids are trends.
All of them.
And it's because they are accessories.
Yeah.
Their kids are fucking accessories to them.
And it's no wonder they come out like just, just completely crazy.
Yeah.
And we, the taxpayer, are going to end up paying for their therapy or hospital or whatever.
That doesn't make any sense why some of these people, like some of these people that get locked up and we got to pay for that therapy.
But when they was in military, we have to pay for their sex chance.
Like, that doesn't make any sense.
No.
It makes sense when you have an agenda, when they're trying to force.
on it, but it's so freaking insane.
And you know what?
They get away with it because they can or they could.
And we'll see how far they get away with it.
Yeah.
But no, I don't like my tax money going to bombing people or transing people in prison.
I don't really give it, you know, as somebody who's that, I don't give a shit what happens
to you in prison.
You serve your fucking time.
Play your fucking dominoes and try not to get, try not to die.
Try not to get shanked.
But if you do, you know, you know what you're getting into.
Yeah.
Is it true that they're going to, what is it, Black Panther, it's going to be a white guy?
Yes, okay.
That's crazy.
I do not want to see a white dolomite.
I do.
No, no.
No, I don't either.
I don't want to see a black Superman or a black superwoman because she's going to have an attitude.
I'm not putting up with that.
You don't want a black superwoman now.
Oh, no, you didn't.
Oh, no, you ate.
You know, Lois Lane turned herself into a black woman.
Really?
Yeah, she did.
It's a 60s comics where she turns her.
yourself to a black woman who lived the experience.
No, it was a very serious comic from the 60s.
They were trying real hard.
But yeah, so white Black Panther is from, it's futuristic.
So it takes place in the, it's not like an alternate universe.
It's from a series that's supposed to take place a little bit in the future.
And a white kid, blonde hair, blue eyes, challenges to Chala for Wakanda and beats them
and becomes Black Panther.
I was going to piss off another black people.
I'm like, get the, you've got to be fucking.
I mixed the razor will be through the roof for this.
So the guy who wrote it, though, Christopher Priest,
kind of based dude.
So I think he's kind of like poking the bear a little bit.
Right.
Like, nobody wants a white black panther.
Nope, nobody.
Nobody wants a white Shang-chi.
It's fucking ridiculous.
But if this is a subtle move, and I don't know,
but if it's a subtle move to kind of show the absurdity of the shit we've gone through,
I think it's great because it's just a fictional character.
crowd has been fucking freaking out on Twitter.
So I've been just loving it.
I was just like, ha ha, ha.
Yeah.
No, I don't want to like a white black panther, but God damn, it's funny.
Right.
I think it's going to do good.
Oh, it's going to, it's going to crush.
I'm buying it.
I'm buying it.
I am absolutely buying it.
It's definitely going to crush.
Yeah.
It's a shallow.
It probably, it might set records.
I'm going to frame it on my wall.
I hope he's on the cover.
white people will fucking support that just to piss off these sub-Saharan people
pissing off everybody because you know it's a lot of black fatigue going around
that's probably why he did it yeah that's probably Christopher Priest is black
just need to point out so great dude yeah Christopher Priest is black
hates has called out like the fact that he was given like black titles all the time
he's like fuck that I want to draw I want to write for every he's a writer and he's great
writer by the way right for comics so yeah
I think he's kind of, I think he's kind of winking and poking the bear a little bit.
I think it's fucking great.
Well done, sir, if that's what your intention was.
Yeah.
Before you got started on YouTube, you own a comic bookstore?
I did.
I did for 10 years in San Francisco.
Wow, really?
Yeah.
But you see some crazy shit in there.
Oh, I did.
Yeah.
Oh, where do I start?
They used to test drugs two doors down.
So every Friday I get every homeless person, you know, like for $20,
they stick them with whatever.
I have no idea what they stick them with.
I had to kick them out of my store.
They had to come in wasted.
Yeah, and I was in the nice part.
But mostly it was great.
Like the people, believe it or not,
normal people live in San Francisco.
A lot of normal people live in better.
And it was a great 10 years.
And I got to meet some comic artists
and some movie stars,
late Ray Stevenson, Noel Neal,
Chubaca came to my, you know,
Peter Mayhew came to the store.
It was tons of fun.
And it kind of prepped me for for whatever I'm doing now because I stood at a counter all day and I just talked nerd shit all day with the people who came in.
Right.
And politics was left at the door.
We didn't talk about politics.
There's two rules.
You don't talk about politics in my store and you can't use the bathroom unless I know you.
So for obvious, well, obvious reason, San Francisco.
Somebody shooting up in there.
Yeah.
But it was great.
And it was a great experience.
and it reminds me of what we lost like in fandom
is we had that camaraderie without the bullshit
Yeah, without the politics.
Without the politics, we just enjoyed Star Wars.
It was a great, the early 2000s were great,
and it's kind of like up to 2010
was like the last great time for nerddom.
It's been downhill ever since.
So you saw that shift around 2010?
Yeah.
It was creeping in a little, I mean,
like we want to go through the whole history lesson
of political correctness.
It really started getting bad in the 90s,
but didn't get bad in comics until the mid-2000s, 2010s,
when DC purposefully, Batwoman,
you know that the series that was on C.W.
That sucked.
It was actually based on a comic that sucked.
And the whole sole purpose of her being in the comics
was to be a gay woman.
That was it.
It's gay woman in comics, a lesbian in comics.
Great.
Fantastic.
We've had gay characters before.
It was nothing really new.
But then they started turning,
everybody gay and I mean
everybody. Superman was gay.
Robin, Tim,
Tim Drake is gay.
Iceman, gay.
The X-Men are all freaking gay now.
Like, you know, and
being
the gay with his son.
They aged up, this is the weird thing,
is they had these super sons comic
that was, yeah, there he is right there.
That was really popular.
So they aged him up to be gay
so they can get these headlines.
Yeah.
And everybody fucking hated it.
And it got canceled.
So they got a bunch of headlines.
Uh-huh.
And, oh, God, yes.
We did a live reading of this on a live stream.
Oh, what is this?
I am not.
So this is, yeah, so there's.
Starfire.
Yeah.
And that's her daughter, right?
And it's a self-insert.
So the author, Marika Tamaki,
looks exactly like the fact.
girl. Like exactly. It's a
self-insic... That's the thing of
that's the thing of
basically a lot of the woke
writing, especially when it comes from...
I mean,
this is how women fucking ruined comics. Sorry, folks.
They did. So they brought in their
little... They ruined women's sports, too.
Yeah, they did. Women are ruining
women. What the fuck?
No, they brought in their
fanfic, and
there's a long story behind it. They brought
in their fanfic, and fanfic is fucking
horrible fanfic and shipping are the
shit that wrote it? Yeah,
look, she looks just like her.
Wow. It's a self-insert.
So, you know, Miss Marvel, that's a
self-insert too from Sana Aminot
who works at Marvel, who was
connected with the Obama family.
Oh, I can get into the weeds
with you guys. But there was a poll done
on, and this is even before
when I was in YouTube, so other great
YouTubers have covered this, but
there was a poll on Facebook
that basically asked,
are you interested in comics?
And half the answers came from women.
And all of a sudden,
the comic industry is like,
well, my God,
half the population are potential customers.
We need to hire more women.
All of our staffs have to be half women.
Everything has to be half women.
And you can pinpoint
that's where things went to shit.
And then we got the, you know,
all new, all different marvel.
And then they started changing the mantle.
We got Black Captain America.
We got gay ice man.
We got everything you're seeing
that's destroying
the MCU now in the comics and it completely failed.
So when we saw it starting to come in the MCU,
we were just like, hey, you know, you guys are doing the same shit
and it's going to end up failing.
And we got a lot of clapback.
Like it was a good barometer.
Say, hey, just failed in the comics while we bring this stuff to move,
it's going to fail, yeah.
It failed within the same company.
You had your own fucking data that you ignored.
So when we saw Captain Marvel come out and it made a billion dollars,
but some of us were like, man, this is going to go to shit.
And we got a lot of clapback at the time, but look where we are now.
Two flops in a row.
Fantastic four is coming.
They got a female Silver Surfer.
They're still doing the same shit.
And I could rattle on for an hour all the gender and race swaps they've done.
But just recently, if we want to go to this year, the two most ridiculous are female Silver Surfer.
Now, if you're old school comic book fan, Silver Surfer is one of the coolest fucking characters they've ever created.
It's a fucking surfer.
He's in silver.
He's got the power cosmic.
He used to be a herald of Galactus
Yeah
Serfs around space
And you know
For the longest time was the most powerful
Non-God superhero in the Marvel universe
Until they made Captain Marvel
The Girl Captain Marvel OPE
Wow
And they even have
Black Panther beat him
And like I'll respect to Black Panther
He's not beating fucking Silver Surfer
Get the fuck out of it
But then
And then Black Snape
Like and these are all
These are deliberate moves
These are not good businesses
That's why it's so obvious.
Like, you, like...
Girl's Super Surfer looks crazy.
She looks terrible.
Look at that.
Like a Terminator, 2-1,000.
Liquid metal.
Yeah, and the T-1,000 looked better in 1991.
Right, right, right, right, right.
She looks...
The Silver Surfer from the movie almost 20 years ago
from Rise of the Silver Surfer looks better than that.
It's fucking awful.
And these are deliberate castings.
Like, nobody was going to watch this,
the Fantastic Four or Harry Potter and go, you know what? Snape needed to be black and the
Silver Surfer needed to be a woman. Nobody on earth would have said that. Even fucking woke people
probably, they're too dumb to think of it. So, no, it was a bunch of HR fucking idiots. I've been
told from a pretty decent source that this wasn't even Kevin Feige's decision. It came from above him.
So there's only two people above them. So it's Bob Eiger and the other guy is running the studios.
But it's a deliberate decision.
And with Black Snape,
you didn't even get a black guy who looks like
with a hook nose or something like that.
No, you got somebody, as my friend Ryan says,
off of like GQ Africa and brought him in to be Snape.
Snape has like specifically, well, we know what Silver Surfer looks like.
He's a dude.
He's Norn Rad.
This is supposed to be Shalabal, his wife.
This is Snape.
I mean, again, the resemblance is uncanny.
That is nuts.
Yeah.
So he's specifically described in the books multiple times, straight black hair that hangs around his face like a curtain.
He's been called pale multiple times.
His skin was marble white.
I don't know how you're going to get your skin marble white, but I mean, maybe, you know.
I guess my running theory is if you put a bunch of makeup on this dude, maybe he's the greatest actor ever.
So they're just going to put a bunch of, you know, like that Eddie Murphy skin from SNL.
Yeah. If he do that, okay, fine.
But I'm just...
They put a lot of pressure on that black guy.
You got a lot of pressure.
He's got to know.
Yeah.
Dude, you're going to bomb so hard.
He is going to get destroyed.
And like, the Harry Potter fandom is like, I, I, we hear this a lot.
Racist Star Trek fans, racist Doctor Who fan.
Right.
Racist Harry Potter.
It's like, are you fucking kidding?
Have you seen the Harry Potter or Doctor Who or Star Trek fandom?
Have you seen them?
Yeah.
They're the least.
racist people on the planet.
So to piss them off, you must have made a really
bad decision. Right. Right.
And the Harry Potter fans are not
fucking having this at all, which is pretty funny.
The actor, it was a black
actor, he came out and said that
the last Star Wars, that Star Wars fans
are so racist. Oh,
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So racist.
Yeah. The racist Star Wars
fans that like
that like Lando Calrissian
or Mace Window, I guess they just took
the day off for those two. But he
tried to mention that. He basically called him tokens
and it's like, bro, they're major
characters for one.
And this was in 83.
The only thing I knew is Billy D. Williams
was one of the coolest fucking people on the planet.
He sold this Colt 45
beer and
and he fucked over Han Solo, but then he
became a good guy later.
They're pandering.
Let me tell you, Star Wars always had the vibe
of being in the most whitest elite space.
This franchise is so white.
that it's like a black person existing in that was something.
And you can always tell it something when some Star Wars fans try to say,
well, you know, we had Landau Calvician and had Samuel L. Jackson.
It's like telling me how many cookie chips are on the cookie dough.
I'm like, they just scattered that in there, bro.
They're okay with us playing the best friend.
But once we touch their heroes, once we lead, once we trailblazers,
it's like, oh my God, it's just a bit too much.
They're pandering.
Last time I checked, I didn't fucking write shitty Star Wars movies.
Yeah.
So it was Jar Jar Abrams and Rianne Johnson who took his character of Finn, who, like, arguably
was the most compelling character from when we first saw that first Force Awakens trailer.
He's the most compelling character.
You're like, oh, shit, a stormtrooper that could turn and become a Jedi?
That's fucking rad.
And it was the writers of those movies that made him a fucking joke and a janitor for the empire.
They made him a fucking janitor.
Like, dude, like, who's the racist?
So, no, I reject that completely.
Fuck you.
Right.
We had Finn's back.
We had his back before, but, you know, dude, they shrunk him on the poster for China.
Really?
Did the fans do that?
No, fucking Disney did.
Yeah, you didn't know that?
So there's a Force Awakens poster for China that they, he was much bigger in it for America.
And you go to the Chinese one, he's like, this big.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
Oh.
They covered up Chadwick Bozeman's face.
You got it?
Yeah.
There's the American one.
You got to squint.
You can see him down there.
I can't even see him.
There is.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
So for Black Panther, they took Chadwick Boseman's face.
They put a mask on it.
Right.
Yeah.
They put a mask on it for them.
Yeah.
And then for Little Mermaid, they made her blue.
Oh, really?
Yes.
Yeah.
they made her blue.
And like they tinted it blue so they can be blacker.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And yeah, this is also the same company that think the province that's associated with concentration camps in China from Milan.
So like, shut the fuck up, dude.
Yeah.
He's just talking.
His career's over now.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's the Little Mermaid one.
Wow.
You can't tell.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She is black, black, white, or anything.
No.
Yeah.
They had a, I think it was a stage play.
Romeo and Juliet, that one black trick that looks like a lesbian.
Yeah.
With Tom Holland?
Yeah, I was like, everybody's like, this is so not believing.
No.
I mean, it actually made me question who was Romeo and who was Julia.
I think she would have been a better Romeo, to be honest with you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was, I mean, totally believable.
Man, that girl will suck you all.
The big mouth.
She got a mustache?
Yeah, she had that mustache.
Don Luka.
Oh, shit.
Oh,
that pissed everybody up.
It's like, oh, my God,
this went too far.
Yeah.
It was so funny.
People were posting the day
before they announced Hermione
that she was going to play Hermione
and so many people believed it.
Never mind the fact that she's almost 30,
you know, and Hermione's like 10.
Yeah.
But people.
were believing it because like why not we live in such a crazy time right now it's like oh sure a 30-year-old
black lesbian playing hermine i can i can fucking believe it at this point yeah then captain america
to the gay to a black guy he's a very good actor i forget his name but anthony mackie he's great
yeah he came out and said some things that really create a lot of turmoil before that movie came out
i forget what he said oh do you remember what he yeah he said basically that captain america
doesn't really represent america i mean i'm paraphrasing it right uh yeah
And it's like,
uh,
and it's like,
uh,
I think he got caught in.
I think he was trying to say like,
it's got mass appeal,
but he really just said it fucking,
like as wrong as you could.
And like,
motherfuckers like me are going to go,
see,
you know?
See?
Told you.
Right.
Exactly.
The thing is,
it sucks what they did to him because he was a great falcon.
And Falcon is,
uh,
Marvel's second black character.
Right.
And,
um,
doesn't have,
black in front of his name and he was
Captain America's part in the week. We all
the reason Black Panther succeeded
the way it did. Great
marketing. They convinced America that
you would be racist if you don't go to see Black Panther.
But for comic fans,
well-established character, part of the Avengers
has been reading him all my life. Love the character.
Love Falcon. No problem. They're great
on their own. Now you're giving him,
it's a great example. To make him more
legitimate, you're giving him
Captain America's hand-me-downs.
Because it's not
legitimate until you get the white man's hand-me-downs. That's fucking racist. God damn it.
My friend Eric July is the one who brought that up a lot. And he's right. He's 100% right.
You had an independent character that you could have just had leading the Avengers, but you had
to make him Captain America. It's the soft bigotry of low expectations. And that's why we don't,
you know, we don't get original characters now because they don't really believe in it. They don't
believe in their fucking diversity. If you did, you would create an original character. You
You would put all the resources you possibly could behind it.
Put the best writer, best artist,
doesn't matter what they look like.
You know, and if it's a black character,
doesn't have to be a black writer,
doesn't have to be just the best.
They need to be the best.
Make it popular.
Tom McFarland made a black character really popular.
Spahn.
You know,
so like it's not hard.
You just put the best talent behind it
and you put resources if you really fucking believe it,
which they don't.
That's why they always gender swap and race swap.
They don't believe in captains.
Marvel or Breed Larson, not one fucking bit.
They're like, look at this O.P. girl.
You know, there's a thing called the hero's.
There was a hero's journey.
You go through a journey as a hero.
You got to answer the call.
You know, and it kind of acts as a curve.
You know, it's a character arc.
Right.
The hero's journey is a straight line.
It is, she was awesome to begin with,
and everybody else just needed to figure it out
by the end of the movie.
And that's pretty much what they do.
That's why these movies feel fucking lame,
because they are.
Yeah.
You know, so.
I want to see Black Panther.
I like the movie.
It's just they had too much African culture in it.
I was like, they showed a guy.
He had a big old plate in his lip.
And his lip was like, this.
I was like, that was stupid.
And they showed a guy, he had all these, these key lords all over his face.
I said, that has nothing to do with being black.
Not in my book.
They put African culture in it.
Yeah.
They made it like African culture black.
They did.
And then they had an isolationist ethno state in the middle of a poverty-stricken Africa.
And they had all these.
fucking resources they weren't sharing in a giant wall.
Right, yeah.
Base.
And then the second movie, a bunch of Latin people are trying to break into their country
through the wall.
Like, what the hell's going on?
Yeah, you have some racial othertones, like they're coming in legally and shit.
Yeah.
I was telling Joe, there's a part in Wakanda Forever where they're lowering a force field.
And they lower it with with DJs.
They're all, what, that's how they lower the force field.
And you know that we were talking, it's like, you know,
a bunch of white people were sitting there making decisions.
This is going to be so cool.
It's so urban.
They really like the DJs and the hip hop, you know.
Yeah.
