Hodgetwins Podcast - Hodgetwins & Owen Benjamin Get REAL About RACE & SLAVERY In America...

Episode Date: August 12, 2026

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some mistakes. Right. Isn't it funny how people always identify with the victim? Like when it's like, I got a buddy who's like half black is like, oh yeah, one of my ancestors was raped by a white man. I'm like, so that means your ancestor raped a black chick. How can we only look at one side? Like you're just as related to the rape guy.

Right, right, right, right. You know? Like, I don't think I descend from any slave owners, but I somehow relate to them. I'm like, we made some mistakes. Right. It's like, oh, and you don't descend from anyone who owned. land. I'm like, I do now in my head. Yeah. I was on my family ancestry, man. They traced all the way back and went back like 1600. They had his first name. And it was like this long. Good for you, man.

What's your history? Like, what happened? Family was slaves. My ancestors was a lot of was slaves. But I got Irish, uh, well, yeah, Irish, a great, great, great grandfathered. He had a white family and he had a black family. Yeah. And that's how he actually wrote a book about it. It's called the Hurstans. I'll read that. So what did you glean from some of that history? Like, what did you learn? Did that my great-great-grandfather, the white man from Ireland. It was crazy.

From Ireland? Like he was from Ireland? He had a white family and a black family. And back those times, he would go out in town with his black kids and drink with that. He was a good guy. No, it's like the Irish. Imagine like the Irish were the slaves to the English forever. They're like, oh, we got new land.

We can finally fucking be the slaves. Or the owners. Because the English, they used to just like, yeah, there was like law that when an Irishman got married, like the English guy got to bang his wife that night. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. That's the brave heart shit. Like, that's historical fact. Yeah.

And so then they must have been like, dude, we go to America. We might be able to own somebody ourselves. Yeah. Hey, I'm going to bring up what Trump said about making houses affordable for everybody. He came over an idea the 50-year mortgage. You know what I'm not? I'm pretty sure that there's a book about the 50-year mortgage that was about your family. Think about that.

Think about the spellcraft of that, the 50-year mortgage. I heard that. Am I now an slave? You know, because if you sign up for a mortgage at 20, you're talking life expectancy your whole life. You are in a slave contract. That's why it's called bondage. It's like the bond. It's like a financial instrument.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hopefully, you know, my banker is like an Irishman that can drink. Yeah. You know, with his black family or me. Yeah, I mean, that's, that's, I mean, I think that they, it's going to get wild. I don't even think we've seen anything yet. Like, this is the biggest. He's got another three years.

Well, yeah, and financially, it doesn't even matter who's in. It's like, this fiat bubble is insane. Like hundreds of trillions of dollars of notes that are like just going to vanish. Yeah, we're approaching 39 trillion. When Trump took off, it was close to 30. now we're almost at 39 trillion. And that's not including unfunded liabilities and the derivatives market. It's literally like 300 trillion.

That's why I'm telling people about silver and gold. It's like gold should be like 100,000 an ounce. Yeah, it should be. Yeah. And so the way they can reset it is to reprice gold. Like let's say they have a few tons of gold. They're like, well, now it's worth 100,000 an ounce. We can pay off our debt and we'll start over.

You think that's what's going to happen? That's typically what happens. I'm going to buy me some fucking gold. Just a little bit. You don't need a lot? I need it a little bit, huh? Just a little bit. Just a little taste.

Yeah, because in Weimar, Germany, and all these places, like, you could sell an egg and pay off all your debt. You know, and I try to, I don't take out debt because I'm just obsessed with not owing people. I'm obsessed with not being a slave. Right, right, right, right. Because I had to pay off my wife's student loans, and I felt like I was buying her from, like, job of the hype. I'm like, I'm taking. this woman is my own. Yeah. It felt so good when I played off my student loans. Totally. Yeah.

It felt so good. That's when I knew I owned her. I'm just kidding. What do you think about Bitcoin, cryptocurrency? I'm not into it. I'm not, I'm not into it just because whenever someone says it's as good as dot, dot, dot, I'm always like, I'll just get the thing then. They're like, no, it's like digital gold. I'm like, so like a dildo is like a digital dick. You know? I want the real dick. And they keep telling me, I don't. understand. I'm like, well, if I'm not smart enough to understand, why would I buy it then? Like, I'm too stupid then. Right, right. And they're like, oh, no, we didn't mean it. We just want to shame you so that you'd buy it. I'm like, okay. No, I'm too stupid. I have to read this

white paper by a freaking Japanese guy named Central Intelligence. Satoshi Nakamoto means central intelligence. They're like, oh, yeah, no one's ever met him. I'm like, yeah, no, they say that, yeah. I wouldn't mind if the government used Bitcoin, because then we could all check what they're spending their money on. It's a public ledger. You can trace it. No, I get it. I mean, I'm not against it. I just personally don't understand it. I'd rather own like gold. Chickens, bullets, silver. You know, I'm like, something I can see. Totally. I'm like, that chicken weighs. As soon as she stops producing, I eat her. Right. I'm like, how primal is that? Right. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You old fashioned. The old fashioned way. And the chickens always come

home to roost. It's a great metaphor. And I just look at people in the eye. It's a great metaphor. Yeah. Hey, so blacks in the north don't do well because you got all the melanin and you're in Detroit. That's why they do crack. Dude, every, like the blacks in the south are awesome. That's why it's like, go to Memphis. No, they're like, come by my barbecue, man. They're like cool because they have all the sunshine. Right. It's like if whites live in like the tropics, it's like we're fucking dead. Yeah. You know?

The sun. Yeah. Yeah. No, because it's like, because sunshine makes you happy, you know? But it's like, and you guys need more sunshine than most people that I hang out with in North Idaho. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why they call us glacier monkeys. My teacher, I had a teacher in high school's name was Mr. Tucker.

He said, no. Did you know you do a lot better than the sun? Did I do? He was telling me, I said, why is it because you're, your skin. Yeah. Yeah. It's true. Yeah.

That's why, like, the slave thing is so fun. because they were trying to make Irish more slaves and they kept dying. This is a true story. They'd bring the Irish to like a tobacco farm in like Alabama. And they're like, let's do this. They'd be dead in a week. Really? Yeah, same with sugar cane.

Because sugar cane was like the opium of like the 19th century. You put white people in fucking Haiti. They're dead. Yeah. Yeah. And that's why. Skin cancer and stuff like that? Yeah.

And then also black people also have a slight immunity to malaria. Like, you can still get malaria, but it's way less. And some people think that that's what sickle cell anemia is like part of that is being immune to malaria or something. And so if you're just looking at dollars and cents and you're a slaver, you're like, we got to go darker. Unless you're doing potatoes up north, then you go light. Right. Yeah. Because you don't want your slaves smoking crack.

Getting all sad and shit. Like, think about it. There's never northern black slaves. Right. That's why all the North was against slavery. No shit. Their slaves were white. You put them in a factory.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because white slaves were doing the making cloth and shit. Uh-huh. I mean, look at us. According to the five percenters, we were made in a cave by scientists. So it's like we can survive the shadows. Yeah, and plus y'all deal, y'all... We don't need a lot of sun.

We don't need a cold weather, a lot better than blacks. Exactly. We just need a little sliver of that sun. We got all the vitamin D we need. Yeah. And then you could put us in it. Same with the Chinese with the iPhones. You put them in a factory.

They're fine. They're white. You know, you put a bunch of Nigerians in a factory, they're fucked. But you put them on a sugar plantation, they're having 20 kids. You know? And that's all just like, look at the truth of that. It's just so obviously true. It's like you're just built for different shit.

I tried to grow cotton as a joke to show how easy it is to pick. And it kept dying. But I was like, because it's like little like clouds, you know? Like a bag of cotton is a pillow. Right. Like you could just fall asleep. Right. You know, potatoes, you're on the ground.

You're like, they're like heavy. I drove by a cotton field. I think it was Alabama. It's amazing looking. It literally looks a little like heaven. Yeah. You know, you're in there. Don't you miss it?

Like singing songs out there? You know, with your friends. I was feeling something. Totally. No, I'm like that with, beautiful. I'm like that with manual labor. I know I descend from people that their whole livelihood was doing manual work. Because, like, I get depressed if I'm not doing shit.

Yeah. Like I, dude, imagine you just get to pick that all day long, like little clouds in heaven. You know, and then you get a lesson from Thomas Jefferson. Right. I mean, the rule was you had to feed your slaves the same food as you eat. The irony is they figured out how to feed his fucking goyslop GMO and make us feel good about it. Yeah. We're like, we're free.

Back then you ate like what you were growing. It was like amazing. Yeah. I saw this one former slave on YouTube It was the funniest shit ever A former slave on YouTube? No, it was an interview when the moon landing happened He was like a hundred years old, literally.

He didn't believe the moon landing. He goes, we never went to no moon. And dude, the way they got him in Africa, he goes, he goes, they told us that they had trees with pancakes on them. That's how, and so that's how they got him on the ship. Really? Yeah, he was like nine.

They're like, back in this other place, we have like pancakes and syrup on the tree. And he was like, no fucking way. And then they bring him, and then he was on an orange plantation. And he seemed like a happy guy. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, he was a hundred.

Wow. Yeah. And he was like, we never went to no moon. And they interviewed him for the news broadcast. It was fucking hilarious. He was like, nobody ever went to no moon. And dude, he was agile. He was like moving better than me.

Yeah, I know. Because they're saying, use it or lose it. And it's so very true. because I dropped maybe, what, 20 pounds? I feel so much better. That's awesome. Yeah. The last time you see you, I feel like, shit.

This is a great place. There's so much sunshine in Vegas. A little bit too much. Well, it gets hot as hell in this year. Oh, in the summer, I'm not outside. Dude, I'm, looking at me. I'm like a white devil down here. Now, you guys are crushing here.

I mean, the sun, my wife is part mestizo, so she kind of craves the sun a little bit. Oh, really? Yeah. But she's white enough to be happy in Idaho, but. You know, some of her ancestry wants that sunshine. Yeah. Yeah. It's true story.

Yeah. Yeah. I like a little sunshine. I think I... I burned, though, man. You burn? Yeah, burn. How is that possible?

I don't know. It's weird. I got in the pool, and I got the pool. My wife's like, oh, my God, what's wrong with your shoulder? It was like bright red. No way. Because I'm, like, like, really white up here. I don't get in the sun.

And I turn red, and then I start peeling. She's like, oh, my God, you are white. Huh? My shoulders always get burned. Huh? My shoulders always burned. Yeah, yeah. Dude, my face looks like I stuck it in the oven.

Do you put sunscreen on? No, I didn't put it in all. Well, that's good. Dude, that shit causes cancer. That's a true fucking story. Look it up. The chemicals in that shit. That's why the world is made like a joke.

It's like sunscreen gives you skin cancer. It's insane. Supposed to protect you from that. Yeah. No, the sun's good for you. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Unless you white, huh?

No, no. Dude, I don't burn as much as your wife. man, dude, I get brown as shit. Yeah. That's good. You get it.

I get a little of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A little that Germanics in there. Some fucking black hop the fence somewhere on. You know, because I really don't burn that much at all.

Have you, did your ancestry? No, I should. Yeah. I had a girlfriend in 2006 do it for me. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

But I don't remember what it said. And now I'm a little freaked out that the, the grabbers know that about it. Like, they have my DNA. But you know the crazy thing about it? They don't really need your DNA of somebody in your family. They can...

Yeah, my uncle did it. Yeah. Yeah, he said we have a lot of Scandinavian, even though we're part Irish. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I think we're a little black, maybe. A little black is okay. Dude, I think it's good for you a little bit. Gives me that flow state.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's true. That's what Candace is crushed. She's all fucking flow state. Like, she's just crushing. And the grabbers get two in their head. They're like, man. Obviously, you sound like a fucking demon.

And it's like, no, because, like, musically, because I teach piano and stuff. So it's like, musically, I know what it's like just hitting that flow. And you might need a little melanin to do it. Yeah.