Hodgetwins Podcast - Jesse Lee Peterson Tells Hodgetwins All Thoughts Come From Evil...

Episode Date: October 25, 2025

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Do you think a conservative woman could be a good leader? No. No. No. Not built for it. No, it's not in her. Yeah. Really.

And she would try, but she's going to be stressed out. Yeah. You say the wrong thing to her at the wrong time. It goes against the nature. Yeah. Yeah. You're trying to make her be something that's not in her nature. Right.

No matter where she's conservative or Democrat or independent, whatever they want to call them, call themselves. Can you imagine yourself being married to a woman to call herself a CEO? I don't know, but... She'll be wearing pants now, but she's going to make sure you know she's CEO. Yeah, CEO.

It scares me every time I get... When I get put up by a cop, I just like, hope it's a white man. I hope it's not a white woman. And, man, I'm going to pray to God if it's a black woman. Because women like to overcompensate because they're women. It's like they got a chip on the cereal.

I remember once I got years ago. I got pulled over by a white guy and a white woman. And the woman had the gun on me. Oh, God. Oh, Lord. She pulled a gun on me. I'm like, oh, Lord, not George, Lord. Yeah, I was nervous because I thought,

because I know how emotional women are. I didn't know if she's going to trip out. Yeah. And I was so glad when they asked for my license, here you go. Yeah. I have no tickets. They didn't let me go, right?

Yeah. But I was nervous that that woman were holding a gun on me. Yeah. Really? Yeah. That was scary time. Yeah. Because women are too emotional.

Yeah, yeah. So I got to ask, do you create your own thoughts? Yeah. You do? I think so, for the most part, yeah. You do. I try to be objective as possible. Like, when I hear something, Trump say something, or the conservative say something, or the conservative say something, I look at from an objective standpoint.

And I trust these people, but I got to always. you know, be able to think for myself. I think that's what's hurting people on the left. There's no objectivity. Everything they say, they repeated verbatim. Yeah, they get sheep. And so you create your own thoughts. How do you do that?

I'm just looking from both points of view and try to look at it from every point of view perspective. Like when Trump came out and said he wanted to take over guys a strip. I didn't agree with that. Oh, you didn't? I'm already planning my vacation over there. What a-da? It's beautiful.

That's like probably the best real estate in the world. Yeah, I've seen it. I've been over there before, so you're right. It's beautiful. It's religious and beautiful. Yeah, and it's sacred. So how do you create your own thought? My own thoughts?

By just looking at whatever the issue is from my point of view and nobody else's. And from there, and I go from there, pretty much. And so you create all your own thoughts. I like to think so. A lot of times where I create my own thought, I do a lot of listening. I listen to both points of view. Okay. And so if you create your own thought, why do you create thoughts that make you feel bad at times?

Make you afraid or worry or feel something. Why do you create those kind of thoughts? I really, over the, I would say the last 20 years in my life when I had this awakening not to blame anybody for what's going on in my life. Of course. A lot of those thoughts went away. When I think of things as bad, I say, well, it's the truth. It's out of my control just because I look at those things that make me feel bad as a way I can grow and improve.

Really? Yeah. And why do you create bad thoughts sometimes? Evil. Evil? Because I'm an evil person at times. Yeah, you got us over here thinking about white women. What?

And so how do you create an evil thought? How do I create it? Yeah. I don't know. It's the devil in me sometimes. Team in nature. Yeah. And I just try to...

Tell me the step you take to create an evil thought. They're women. Fuck, I don't know. Jeff. That's a deep-ass question. Shit is deep. Well, evil thought is... Well, tell me the step you take, number one, two, three, four.

Step you take to create an evil thought. Well, it's something I don't create. I mean, evil thoughts. my mind is if you act on them or not. But you say you create them. Yeah, we all create them. Like jealousy, that's like an evil emotion. How do you create a jealous thought?

Tell me yourself you take. Enveying something what they have. Yeah, it's just envying somebody else has and you feel like you deserve it more than them. But you got to have a thought to have their jealous feeling. Tell me the step you take to create a jealous thought. Explain this shit to me just like. Well, Jesse, I don't have really a jealous feeling.

or envy anything. But you know how you have... My problem is when I see a beautiful attractive woman just involuntary. It just pops in a man. I don't have to think anything. I'm like, wow, I bet she's great in bed. You know, those thoughts, evil thoughts,

wicked thoughts. Do you create good thoughts? Mm-hmm. I think so. Tell me the step you take to create a good thought. When I, when a woman's hitting on me, I don't act on it, and I go home and I kiss my wife. What?

What? Right, right? Shut up, Kim. Tell me the step you take to create a good thought. One, two, three, how do you do it? The steps I take to make a good thought. To create a good thought. I don't know.

I just, when I see something that's not evil, like when I see Trump, that makes a good thought in my head, you know? When I see a black. But how do you create a... evil thoughts in my mind. What a mess. But tell me the stuff that you take to create a good thought.

I don't think I take a step. It's like it's the good inside of me that creates it. You know? I don't have to create it. What do you mean by that? Like if I'm a good person versus a bad person,

if something presents itself is based on how I react to that moment or that thing or that occasion that's going to create a good or bad thought. And so you're a good person? I think so. I try to be.

What's good about you? I don't kill people. I don't take drugs. I'm raised to my family to do the right thing. Yeah, I'm not envious. I'm not envious. I don't look at other people's possessions and say, wow, I wish I had that.

So tell me how you create a good thought. I don't know. I think it's based on But why do you think you create thoughts if you don't know how you do it? Why do you think you create them? Maybe it's a high being that's creating them. Who? A high being.

What does that mean? Man upstairs. You think he created bad thoughts? I think he gave me ability to decide what's right and wrong and what's good and what's bad. You think he'd create bad thoughts? No. No, I created those. How do you do it, though?

Because it's a sin. Tell me how you do it. Because everybody wants, everybody thinks the grass and the green on the other side. No, but how do you create a thought? You're not telling you. Fuck, I don't know, Jesse. Why won't you just tell us? It's a curse to them.

It just occurs to you. What? You don't create them? It just happens, right? It's possible to your mind. Yeah. You don't create them? I mean, that's, yeah.

It hurts, right? I'm gonna let Jesse fill us in because I'm lost. Tell us how we create. So you guys are not able to tell me how you, you said you create your own thought. You create the good ones? that the bad one, right? Yeah, I think so, yeah. But you're not telling me how.

Yeah, it's just, uh... I don't think you can put in the words. I think it's, uh, instincts. It's natural. What? Yeah. Yeah. Um, do you have anger?

I get frustrated at times. I don't have a lot of anger. Do you have anger? No. I get frustrated, but I don't, I don't really express anger or... Frustrated is anger. Yeah, it's a form of being anger. Yeah.

So, you do that. have anger? A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. You have anger. Right. Right?

And where does the anger come from? Mama. Mama. It started that, that's for sure. But where does it come from? Bad past experiences. Bad past experiences? Bad past, and you say?

The devil. Why don't you drop your anger and have no anger at all? I think for the most part I have. No, why don't you just drop it, period, and never feel anger. again no matter what happens. Right, right. No, that was a question. Yeah.

Why don't you drop it? Because I'm used to having them. Having her anger. You don't do. That's right. I don't know. I guess it's easier to say it than done. But yeah, I think for the most part, I dropped a lot of bad experience and I just

try to go forward without. Why not drop all the anger and never, and get to the point that nothing or no one or no situations you can ever make you angry. Why not drop it? Why don't we do that, man? It's impossible to drop that hatred I had for these dumb negress. That would take an act of God. You can drop it. Yeah, drop it. Right, you can drop it. But you can get, a helpful reminder every day. Like, if you forgive them, it brings more inner peace than you. Yeah. May I say, you've never created a thought in your whole life.

No. You've never had it already. original thought in your entire life. Everything's a remix. And you have never created a thought. You agree that? I think you're right. And why? Because humans been here for

how long, and everything that I went through, they went through it many times over. Yeah. A lot of different generations, through generation after generation. A lot of gripes that you may have, you probably got those same grafts because you heard somebody else gripe about it, you know? A lot of past experiences from other people

becomes yours. They on your culture, your religion, or your thoughts are all lies, all the time about anything. No such thing is a true thought. So if I say men have dicks, that's not true. What? That's not a thought. That's not a thought. You already know that.

That's a fact. You have never created a thought. You never can and you never will. You've been listening to the imagination. And the imagination has set you up to make you think is you because you identify with it. You call the imagination, you call the thought you, you say, I'm this and I'm that. I'm lonely or I'm afraid or I'm whatever, right? And you identify with evil who you identify with thoughts.

And they bring on emotions. You can't even have emotion unless you have a thought first. Right. You can't even feel good in this Father's state unless you have a good thought, what you think is a good thought. You think about someone and you feel good. You think about your kids or your wife or something,

and you feel good. But if you didn't have that thought, you can never feel anything about it. All thoughts are coming from evil. All thought is of the ego, and we are not our thoughts, and we have never created a thought, and they are not from God.

That's why you have to die from thoughts. you have to stop identifying with them. And when you do that, you've got to drop the anger first. Because anger is evil. And angers of your father and the devil, right? And it causes you to, when you were traumatized as a kid, you were innocent. You know how when kids are born, unless they've been traumatized in the womb? They're innocent, they forgive, they play around, they look around the little world.

And then mama come along and pose her will, make them angry. In their very moment, kids lose sight. of God and wake up to evil in their imagination. And they grew up living in their thoughts because nobody ever telling them, you know, and drop that anger, you can drop those thoughts. What? You know what, Jesse, come to think of it, all the videos I've seen you in, you've never been angry. And I used to be angry.

Yeah. I was angry. I used to have fear, doubt. But when I realized I needed to forgive my mother because I didn't know I resented my mother, I thought I'd love my mother. Yeah. But that's a false love, right? And once I went and forget,

it was the hardest thing I ever had to do. I was 20, I was 38 at the time. And I was shaking in my boots. But I had to go face her and forgive her what she's done. And she apologized. She's like, I'm sorry. I didn't know I had done it to you. And she told me about her mother.

Her mother did the same to her. Yeah. And when I forgave her, God forgave me, he took away fear. He took away anger. And he gave me perfect peace. When you forgive, and then he started to allow me to see I was living in my head. He said to bring every thought into captivity.

Your thoughts are not your own. Your thoughts are not his thoughts. And I promise you, once you forgive and become aware of those thoughts. Now, this is you. When you're traumatized, you escaped into your imagination. And you started thinking of good and bad in your thought. You start judging yourself and other people in darkness. and you call it you.

But once you forgive, God's going to bring you out of here and he's going to take away loneliness, depression, needing, looking for love, suicidal thought, jealousy, envy, strife, and all that. You take away it makes you free. You have never created your own thought. Disagree at me. I agree. Do you agree?

How about you? That makes sense? Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. Really? But somebody who barely passed SAT, you make a lot of sense. I know. Yeah. Hey, I'll be looking at...

That's why I call myself Black and Slow. Black and slow. Black and slow. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. But if you drop the anger, you would drop the thoughts. And I promise you, you have perfect peace right here on Earth.

Yeah. What you said, like I see you interview in these black people. When you're trying to relay your message to them, they get upset. You could see it. Yeah. And you're right, they get still smiling. You're not getting angry, but they are. When you say you people,

What do you mean? The complaining black people, blaming others for the failure of their parents and their lives, blaming others for whatever it is you complain about. What is it exactly do you want for white people? You're like, what do you? First of all, I'm just going to take a breath. And I'm trying to find out what you want. What's your nationality?

American. Are you white? I'm black American. What do you want? She's trying to deflect. Why do you think that? Why do you think that? Because you seem to separate yourself from us, should I say, put us on the other side of the

fence. In the ways that you specified thus far. Meaning what, tell me, give me an example and tell me what you mean. How you mean, what do you people want from white people? want for white people meaning that I'm not with you. Oh, okay. It's just y'all by yourself. Let me explain why I do that.

What you don't know is that there are two realities in life. One is that of good and one is that of evil. And now that I've been able to overcome evil, I don't identify with angry, evil black people. I identify with other blacks and others who are on the side of good. And so that's why I say you people, because I have I have to divide myself or separate myself from evil and go along with good. So that's why I do that. What is it that makes us evil?

I'm sorry, your anger, you're blaming others for your problems, your lack of love and respect for yourself and others. Okay. Amazing, huh? I get it now. I mean, I was just caught up in a moment, you know, looking at the response by, I understand and meaning by everything that you ask. My thing in life is that I now know for sure and without a doubt.

We have never done anything wrong. We're not guilty. We're not innocent. We're not sinners and we're not saints. We're not wrong. We have never done anything wrong. What we have done is identify with the enemy of our imagination. Satan made a home in our imagination.

And he influenced, he has no power, but he can influence you to think and do things. It's not you, right? God said all our sins have been wiped away. We're really free. And the moment you stop listening to the imagination, you're going to see that you are free and that you've been listening to thoughts

and they bring on emotions and they've been making you act out and do things that you wouldn't ordinary do. Think things that you wouldn't ordinary think. And so I counsel with men and women around the world. Everybody. have the same problem. It's a spiritual problem.

And they're angry, they're angry, and they're living in their imagination, and they think that it's them. That's why they judge. I tell people, hey, stop judging. Don't judge with thoughts. Don't judge with looks looking at people. Don't judge with words, gestures, will enter that. And it's hard for them not to judge because they think that they're their thoughts.

Isn't that amazing? Yeah. And the devil's tree speak all kinds of everything. He speaks Japanese. He speaks Mexican. He speaks Chinese. He speaks Chinese. Oh, he wants some rice.

He speaks black. He speaks the same language to everybody. Right. And it's not going to change until you drop the English. Yeah, I noticed your message is like rebuilding like the black man. Yes. do you think because of the media and the Democrats stronghold on black people, do you think you can save

the black man? There are black men and women around the world, even in Africa, who are hearing the message of forgiving their mothers because they just didn't know. They thought they loved their mothers because they feel that emotional love, and that's not love. Emotional love is hate. It's not love. There's no feeling to real love. God is a dispassionate guy. He's not a passionate guy. Satan is a passionate spirit. And so

I'm talking to men and women around the world of all races and they realize I do hate my mother. My mother did impose on me. My mother did do this and that. And once they go and forgive, they become free. And so I'm really talking to...

We have talking to men and women around the world every day, man. And it's the same thing. They're fighting with their wives. The wives are taking the children. Even in Japanese, the wives are taking the children away from the fathers.

Because the spirit is the same. Our battle is a spiritual battle. And we still can enjoy life and have fun, laugh. Correct jokes. Right, but you'll be free. And you'll be able to see the other people what's going on with them.

And you will have the right kind of love for them because you'll realize it's not them. It's something else that's driving them and the same way it drove you until you were able to overcome it. That makes sense. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. So there's no such thing as racism as a spiritual battle. Yes. Racism was a made-up word by the civil rights leaders. That's why if you notice, they may use a racism for the last 70 years. Right. And the blacks have not gotten better. Got worse. Yeah. They went from racism to affirmative action, to reparations, and now they're

GEI. And then they brought in the other people, the Mexicans and everybody, people of color, to go against the white man. Because the white man have more than often than anybody else, right? Right. But there never has been racism. It's been good versus evil. It's been a spiritual battle the whole time. The whole time. And the blacks knew that. That's why they told us to treat everybody the same. Right. White people and everyone, because it's a spiritual battle.