Hodgetwins Podcast - Jordan Peterson Meltdown, Epstein Victim Mystery & BLACK Pope?! | Twins Pod | Episode 63

Episode Date: May 2, 2025

Hodgetwins are riding solo in this episode! This was such a crazy week. The Pope died, Trump is deporting people for their speech, Shannon Sharpe got accused of grape, a famous Epstein victim took her... own life, and Jordan Peterson has a problem with "Christ is King." With no guest on the show, it gives us the time to go DEEP on all these wild topics!Become a Member and Give Us Some DAMN GOOD Support :https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdg/joinGet your Twins merch and have a chance to win our Cany Red Jeep Rubicon & 10K in cash - https://officialhodgetwins.com/Get Optimal Human, your all in one daily nutritional supplement - https://optimalhuman.com/Want to be a guest on the Twins Pod? Contact us at bookings@twinspod.comDownload Free Twins Pod Content - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_iNb2RYwHUisypEjkrbZ3nFoBK8k60COFollow Twins Pod Everywhere -X - https://twitter.com/TheTwinsPodInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/thetwinspod/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/twinspodTikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@twinspodYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdgRumble - https://rumble.com/c/TwinsPodSpotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/79BWPxHPWnijyl4lf8vWVu?si=03960b3a8b6b4f74Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/twins-pod/id173123281000:33 - Jordan Peterson14:57 - Conservatives’ Anti-Islam Push24:09 - Pope Death30:54 - Concept Of A Pope33:58 - Israel Origins39:21 - Creation of Islam42:47 - Mamouda Khalil55:53 - Virginia Giuffre Didn't Kill Herself1:04:48 - Shannon Sharpe

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yeah. Welcome to episode 63. Yeah. Got a special show for y'all. Just us, though. No guest. Yeah, just us and our producer. He's anti-Semitic. I got a warrant. He is Palestinian.
Starting point is 00:00:17 I'm American, all right? Born in Jersey, all right? Yeah, that's what the white people want to hear. I'm not Palestinian. I'm American. They're going to come from me, man. They're going to come from me. Yeah, man. So what we got going? I understand Jordan Peterson got some scandal around him right now, right? Yeah, well, we got a few topics, a few viral topics that we're going to go over today, get your perspective on it.
Starting point is 00:00:42 A few things that y'all haven't covered either, so I would love to just see your perspective on these things. Yeah, definitely Jordan Peterson, he's been making the rounds lately with a lot of crazy stuff that he's been saying. But he hasn't always been like this. Jordan Peterson, to me, is a very... He's an intelligent guy. He is. To me, it's very disappointing because he used to be a voice for the voiceless. He used to have a lot of great insight and a lot of great speeches, viral speeches, you know, like this one right here, for instance. look around and see what bugs you in your room. Do I like this room?
Starting point is 00:01:15 No, it bugs me. Why? It's dusty there and the carpet's dirty and that corner's kind of ugly and the light there isn't very good. Okay, pick a problem. Pick a solution to it that you know wouldn't help that you could do, that you would do. Would you clean one drawer? Find out. Pick something and fix it.
Starting point is 00:01:31 So then all of a sudden you get all these things in order. It's like, oh, look at this. I've got some room to play here. Then maybe you're not depressed. So he's got that good advice. You know, clean your room. clean your room, forget about your point. Stoicism, exactly.
Starting point is 00:01:45 And, you know, good advice here, especially. Things get to terrible places one tiny step at a time. You know, if I encroach on you and I'm sophisticated about it, I'm going to encroach two millimeters. I'm going to encroach right to the point where you start to protest. Then I'm going to stop. Then I'm going to wait. Then you're going to calm down.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Then I'm going to encroach again right to the point where you protest. Then I'm going to stop. Then I'm going to wait. And I'm just going to do that. And before you know it, you're going to be back three miles from where you started, and you'll have done it one step at a time. And then you'll go, oh, how did I get here? And the answer was, well, I pushed you a little farther than you should have gone, and you agreed. And so then I pushed you a little farther than you should have gone again, and you agreed.
Starting point is 00:02:29 And if anybody's interested in this sort of process, and this is a horrifying book, if you want to read about how this process works, you can read a book called Ordinary Men by Robert Brown. things gift. So what do you all think about that insight? What do you think about his advice, his classic stuff? I always seen him as like a father figure. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And an intelligent guy and someone young men can look up to. Yeah. Right. So what did he exactly, what exactly did he say they got him in a lot of hot water? So he's gone from being that guy, that really like important guy with the important voice and inspiring stuff to pretty much since October 7th. Okay, here we go. go, here comes to the Palestinian. Pretty much since October 7th, all he really does is like cry and chill for Israel.
Starting point is 00:03:18 So here's his latest. Yeah, here's his latest crying spat. And then I'm going to show you some of the more reckless things that he said when it comes to Christianity. Oh, okay. So here he is on Pierce Morgan and his latest crying fit. Because if you tell the truth, what should happen as a consequence of the truth makes itself, manifest in the world. And that's the best possible outcome. But it's also the most adventurous thing that you can do, the most exciting thing you can do hands down. There's nothing that
Starting point is 00:03:50 compares to it. That pathway of maximal responsibility, voluntary responsibility and truth. And I understand that deeply at a religious level. So it's unfortunate that that's... He just lost his father too, right. Yeah, I know he lost his father a little while. Okay. And I don't want to make fun of him for this, too, but he's, he's had like a dependency on SSRIs and Benzos and pretty bad drug dependency. And I don't want to make fun of him for that, but it seems like his emotions, his serotonin, his, he's just, he cries at the drop of a hat. It's just like, I didn't know that about him. Yeah, he had a drug dependency. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Benzos. His daughter goes into a lot of talking about it. Let's hear him again here with peers Morgan. Symbolic world on which our productive and peaceful culture was
Starting point is 00:04:43 properly founded and I've seen the effect of communicating that to people, thousands of people. And it's a great privilege to serve that role. But it's also overwhelming. I think it's do you know how uncomfortable is this maybe I was ill for quite a long time and I think that that was part of the reason just seeing this
Starting point is 00:05:17 this malaise so okay he's saying a lot of words I don't even know what the hell he's talking about but it's just sort of the perspective now is he's just like this crying unstable dude yeah he used to be a strong stern dude yeah concise
Starting point is 00:05:34 I would never You would never see him crying or anything. It's kind of, ever since he hooked up with Daily Wire, he's changed. And here's the big thing that I wanted to show you all. His opinions on Christ is King. Uh-oh. A very special phrase that you guys like, too. I'm wearing it on my shirt right now.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Get your Christ as King shirts at official hodge twins.com. Show him where the king is. But Jordan Peterson has an issue with Christ is King, and let him tell you himself. Well, I think the most important thing to do first is to draw a distinction between the political and the psychological and not to collapse them together. So imagine this. Imagine that there's a group of individuals, about 4% of the population, who have a set of personality characteristics that have been described as dark tetrat.
Starting point is 00:06:25 So they're Machiavellian. They use their language to manipulate. They're narcissistic. They want unearned social status and reputation. They're psychopathic. which makes them free of empathy and parasitical and predatory, and they're sadistic. So they take positive delight in the unnecessary suffering of others.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Now, those people also use false cries of victimization, let's say, to manipulate, and they're entitled. They seek vengeance when it's unwarranted, and they protest loudly and make very public cries for reparations that would be self-serving. Okay, now the way those people operate is they look for, for what patterns of belief form groups that they can infiltrate and then capitalize on. And that happens on the right.
Starting point is 00:07:14 We did a report the same group on the use of Christ as king as a manipulative strategy by bad actors, hypothetical. How can you be a bad actor when you say Christ's King is impossible? Jordan Peterson apparently thinks that you're a bad actor, that you're using it in a bad way. And he goes on. I'm also. I mean, looking back on the past of America, like, there was a lot of Christians that did a lot of horrible things to people. But the phrase, crisis king, I don't care what context. Well, I guess if I, if I'm a racist person, I say crisis king and I'm burning a cross in front of somebody's front yard, I can see how we could.
Starting point is 00:08:03 And you're sitting down with like. Yeah. Jews or whatever I could see it being detrimental and not good, but just saying Christ is king, Christ himself, he was a, he was a Jew. Yeah. Yeah. So you think it's almost like a nah, na-na-na-na kind of thing when people say Christ is. Is that what Jordan Peterson is trying to say?
Starting point is 00:08:21 Well, that's how Jewish people say it because that's my religion. Like when they do that religion, whatever they say, whatever they believe in, they're like, nah-na-na-na-na-na-that to me. Yeah. You know what I mean? Exactly. I think Christians have a right to exist, Jewish people have a right to exist, and Muslims have a right exist. Yeah. That's why I see it. Just because my faith, Christ is king, it's not to be
Starting point is 00:08:42 derogatory because you have a different faith, a different religion, a different God. Yeah. And I just think it's weird how they tell you... That's censoring speech. Yeah, and they tell you how to worship Christ, which is a little weird. Let me, let me, he keeps going. This report identified the same sort of people on the left, but it's not primarily political. They're wolves in sheep's clothing. So who's he talking about here? He's talking about just anybody that... I think he's talking about the left.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I would think. Actually, I don't know what the hell he's talking about. Yeah, because I haven't heard anybody... Like, only a Jewish person would say Christ's King is anti-Semitic. Only they would say that. They're the only one is putting forth this argument. Yeah. So I'm thinking he might be talking about people on the left butt.
Starting point is 00:09:31 But that term Price is King is not anti-Semitic. It's just what Christians believe in. Well, it's what Jewish people think is anti-Semitic. Yeah. But that word doesn't belong to them. Also, there's Semitic people are Muslims. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:09:45 Why do they get to... Why it just comes from them, though, the Jews? I don't hear Muslims saying this. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you could say, like, being against Muslims, you could be considered anti-Semitic. Right. Right. But they...
Starting point is 00:09:58 Death to all Muslims. Death to all Jews. That's anti-Semitic. Yeah, but it's only anti-Semitic when you use it towards a Jew. When you said to a Muslim, it's like Jews took that word and owned it now no longer applies to Muslims. Yeah. Which they are Semitic people as well.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it feels like they want to own the word. They want to own semi, just like when they want to own Christ's king now. And here's Candace Owens reacting to it. She gives a pretty good breakdown. Look at the list of the people who are part of the study. So I count one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. 13 individuals who took place in this study.
Starting point is 00:10:34 So this right here, they created a whole press release with this new four-letter agency that they created, N-C-R-I. And they're literally breaking down with a bunch of scholars that you can see right here, why Christ this king is anti-Semitic. That's crazy. Candice Owens tells you who these people actually are. The first principal investigator there that you have, Dr. Lee Jossum, is Jewish. Dr. Jordan Peterson has said he does not believe in Christ. We're going to get to him in a second.
Starting point is 00:11:05 So he's unknown, I guess we could say, an atheist perhaps. Reverend Dr. Johnny Moore, who I would refer to as the token Christian, because he's the only one. And he's the one that retweeted this study and got this going this morning. We're going to speak more about him. Then we have Dr. Joel Finkelstein, who is Jewish. We have Jacob Zucker, who is Jewish. We have Danny Sarah Finkelstein, who is Jewish. We have Sonia Yanofsky, who is Jewish.
Starting point is 00:11:28 We have Alex Goldenberg, who is Jewish. We have Ohad Fidda, who is Jewish. We have Gideon for her, who we checked, and he is Jewish. We have Simon Lazarus, who is Jewish. Lazarus. And the last two, Anisa Jagdip, and Ankita Jagdip, are presumably Hindu, but they are Indian. So this is a study that was funded by Jews to make Christians war with one another during the Lenton season. That is problematic to me.
Starting point is 00:11:57 That's not funny about the Jews. Do Jews get all that money from America? Yeah. Isn't it crazy, though, how Jews are telling you that Christ's king is anti-Semitic? After we funded them, gave them all the weapons to protect themselves. Now they're dictating what is anti-Semitic to Americans? Man, that's this nation's religion. It's Christian.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And I don't know why Christians is putting up with this. Well, their gods are... Well, United States of Israel. It's going to be that way. It's going in that direction, seriously. Yeah. Yeah, man. That's a pretty troubling development, especially when you have people like Jordan Peterson,
Starting point is 00:12:35 just completely all in on it. Yeah. Jordan Peter, he's getting a lot of heat over this, huh? He is. He kind of got blown up all over Twitter, people really coming at him heavy in disagreement. Yeah. I'm not surprised he's taking this side because of who he's affiliated with Daily Wire. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:53 It's a Jewish network. Yeah, of course. Yeah. It's almost like since he started working for Daily Wire, he kind of switched up. a little bit. It's where he took, like, years of branding himself, making a name for himself. And now look, it's like you can destroy that in, like, overnight. Yeah, yeah, you can. It's messed up. I'm just looking forward or not really looking forward, but looking in anticipation to, like, what he's going to say next, what kind of crusade, no pun intended, that he's going to go on next.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Right, right. You think he's being manipulated? Maybe he's because he's, you said he had, a drug dependency? Maybe he's coming off for that. And those people are very fragile, no matter how intelligent you are. That makes sense, too. Yeah, because him emotional, it looks like he's going through withdrawals. He has no control over his emotions. As a man, that's a huge red flag.
Starting point is 00:13:45 And it's the antithesis of all the other stuff that are used to preach. Yeah. Strength, power, be manly. Yeah. People always, especially people on the left, they always said he was an angry person. He looks anything but angry.
Starting point is 00:14:00 now. Yeah. Well, he's angry at Christians, it seems. Yeah. Crying? Crying? All kinds of stuff. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, I came across a clip on Facebook. I was reading, I said, wow, that was an unusual take. I wouldn't expect this from him. And I was reading the comments, and it was like 99% didn't agree with him. Just goes to show you, no matter how smart and intelligent you are, you don't, you're only human. Yeah, well, you know, people don't want their faith to be questions, and people who are of faith and are, you know, really down with it and really serious about it don't want to be told how to worship either. Yeah, yeah. You know, the only religion doesn't put up with this bull crap is the Muslims.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Oh, yeah. Christians get kicked around all over the globe, and we don't say anything. We need a Christian jihad. No. We got to bring the Templar knights back. You know what I've noticed, I would say probably over the last month, I'm seeing a lot of anti-Muslim stuff from conservatives all over the place. It's almost like they're getting paid to do it.
Starting point is 00:15:08 It is kind of weird how it's coming out of nowhere, right? It's coming out of nowhere. Yeah. Yeah. I see a lot of pushback from conservatives about, hey, they just open up a, what do you call that church is a mosque? A mosque. You said, they got a mosque. This is the first Muslim elected official.
Starting point is 00:15:24 They're taking over our country. I'm like, man, this is weird. Yeah, I mean, do you know how many Jewish people are in our government? Yeah. Yeah. It's like what? Okay. I think it's more Jewish people in our government than Christians.
Starting point is 00:15:35 There is. Yeah. Yeah, but you got one Muslim. This is a big problem? Yeah. Mm-hmm. I think we need more religion, but I don't understand the Christian hate towards Muslims. That's why I don't go.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Why is that not anti-Semitic? Well, go to, well, I guarantee, I don't know. I don't know. I haven't traveled about. I don't know if you have, Joe, but if I wear a cross and go to a Muslim country, what's my likelihood of surviving? That's a good question. That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I haven't been to any Muslim countries either, because even though I'm an Arab, that doesn't mean I'm Muslim. Right, right. You're Christian. Jesus was a Semite, too. I'm a Semite, so a lot of people conflate Arab with Muslim, but Arabs can be anything. Arabs can be Jews. Arabs can be, you know.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Yeah, before Israel was established. It was Jews. It was Arabs. And they were all in Christians, all in that area before they established Israel. Yeah. A lot of people don't know that. It was a big society. But, yeah, speaking of conservatives going after Muslims, we'll just, since you mentioned it,
Starting point is 00:16:39 I'll just show you this clip. Our guest, Valentina Gomez that we just had on a few weeks ago, she's going hard after the Muslims here. When she tried to get elected. Islam is the religious rape in Cincinnati, where they bowed down to it. a stupid walk and it's all what event is this
Starting point is 00:17:04 you didn't see this one what does I say it's 57 Muslim what countries her uh her captions got cut off it seems to be some sort of like Texas Muslim rally of some kind and she she walks up in the burqa
Starting point is 00:17:24 you see her walk up that girl is uh that girl's asking for oh she's like a religious rape in Cincinnati where they bow Okay, I'm ignorant to the Torah.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Is that a Bible? No, that's the Quran. The Quran? I said the Torah. What is the Torah? Torah is basically the Old Testament. Okay. Yeah, my bad.
Starting point is 00:17:46 The Quran. Like, why do they keep saying this, like, it's rape and incest in their Bible? Do you know, have, are you knowledgeable about that? Well, I never read the Quran, just like I never read the Talmud. But I do hear experts, you know, say things that exist in these. books, and they say it multiple times, there's something about Muhammad having several wives and all, like, under the age of 13 and all the stuff. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:18:15 That being a woman, now they say you have to be 18. That's a social construct of today's society. But what was the construct back in those days? Because I'm sure in the Bible, I'm currently reading the Bible. I'm not too hip to this, but isn't that like a woman, a female is a woman at the age of 14 or after her first period? I mean, y'all make a good point, too. It sounds like a little bit of hypocrisy, right? Because, like, I've been reading a Christian Bob.
Starting point is 00:18:46 This sounds like, yeah. She's a woman when she bleeds. Yeah. I'm sure that there was like some underage stuff going on, like in our modern world that would be considered statutory rape that goes on in the Old Testament and New Testament, just like it goes on in the Quran. Just like it goes on in the Talmud. But it's funny that you mention it, though. Islam, Muslims are the ones that always get hit with this rap of, like, incest and underage pedophilia. But it has a bunch of this stuff in the Talmud, too, you know?
Starting point is 00:19:17 Right, right, right. It talks about the underage girls. It talks about, you know, multiple genders more than male and female. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a normal, that's a modern social construct that, you know, Oh, everybody's came up with it. You have to be 18. There's no way...
Starting point is 00:19:35 But that doesn't apply to the Bible. Yeah, there's nothing in the Bible says the girl is not clean unless she's 18, right? Is there anywhere in the Bible that's a law? I don't think it says that. Think about it. It's no... Where is that in the Bible where it's the law of what age? You can sleep with a woman.
Starting point is 00:19:51 You know what I mean? I think we've made that a new social construct because now we know it's a lot of sickos around. We're talking about different civilizations. That's why we have no... I mean, I've written a Bible when a woman's on a period, she has to sleep outside. Well, here you go. The Bible does not explicitly define an age of consent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:11 So that means it's up for grabs. That's a social construct of today. I think it's a good one. Yeah, I think it's a bad one. Yeah. But you're holding Muslims to a different standard than you're holding Christianity. Because knowing the Bible says, you know, what identifies? Think about all these different things in the Bible that's evil and bad.
Starting point is 00:20:31 and unclean. Yeah. No mention of, yeah. It's a different civilization, different times. Yeah, that's a good point that they all make,
Starting point is 00:20:39 for sure, because it seems like there is a double standard. To go to bat for them real quick, I would say that maybe they're just pointing at Muhammad as like a,
Starting point is 00:20:50 as the person who is their Messiah. And he was, you know, confirmed to have underage women and multiple wives. And then when you contrast that with Jesus, maybe it's like a real big gap because, you know, Jesus never had sexual relations with anybody.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Right, right. You know, pure and all this stuff. So that's, I guess, what Christians can maybe hold their hat on is that Muhammad wasn't the best, but it does seem like a double standard, like what you're saying. And you do got to take an consideration how long ago these scripture was written. It was a different time, man. Yeah, totally different time. They didn't have no cell phones.
Starting point is 00:21:25 They didn't have social media. They didn't even have a damn clock. No phone? Yeah. I don't think, like when I think of the Muslim faith, I don't think them as my enemy, though. Now, I know there's some radical Muslims out there that want to chop my head off if I don't confer it over to, you know, to that faith. And I'm not saying I'm with those people. I'm just saying there's evil in all walks of life and all faith. Christianity, Muslim. What's wrong?
Starting point is 00:21:52 Judaism. I mean, there's all evil people going to take their scripture and just gaslight the hell out of people and use it for bad. I agree with you all. I mean, when I see people do that about the Muslim faith, I think you're cherry-picking. Yeah, and I think it's coordinated, it seems too. Yeah. Because people are starting to organically just notice things about Israel and things about the Jewish faith organically. So now it seems like there's like a counter movement happening that doesn't see that organically. That's exactly what's going on.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Because a lot of people are getting hip to the state of Israel and what's going on. Now, I guarantee the panis conservatives to put out propaganda. regarding Muslims. Yeah. I guarantee it. Yeah. It doesn't seem that crazy to me. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:23:44 Fires in Israel. Looks like some fires in Israel. National state of emergency. Praying for everyone's safety. So who started? Hamas. You think Hamas They flew in on the paragliders
Starting point is 00:24:04 And just like started lighting stuff with Zippos Speaking of religion You know, Pope just died recently Yeah, that was pretty woke won't he Yeah, he was He was a woke pope They say that he was the woke globalist pope And yeah Keith he was in his 80s
Starting point is 00:24:20 So yeah He was pretty old I hope they picked that black guy I would love that He's far right Dude I like that black guy Yeah That would be
Starting point is 00:24:29 epic of far right black pope. Based black pope. I love it. Yeah, I would love that. Based blacks are really the most based. He's like the Trojan horse for conservatism. You didn't see this coming, didn't you? Hell yeah. I mean, based black guys are really the most based amongst us. Look at y'all. Look at Kanye.
Starting point is 00:24:53 How does that whole process work when you pick a pope? Well, it's, they call it a conclave, right? and they just made a new movie, actually. It's funny how this new movie, Conclay, sort of just dropped as soon as the Pope died. It's basically an election. It's like Survivor, essentially, where people, like, write the name of the person. It's like reverse Survivor. You know how in Survivor, they write the name of the person that they want off the island?
Starting point is 00:25:16 In this instance, they write the name of the person that they think is going to be the best, and whoever's got the most of their name written down is the one that becomes the Pope. Well, he ain't winning. Yeah. Too much racism. Amen. The whites like them too. Look at Asmund gold.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Yeah, yeah, he's Robert Sarah. Robert Sarah. The West has denied its Christian roots. A tree without roots dies. Soviet communism showed people how possible it was to lead mankind into misery while promoting absolute equality. The West is dying. There is no longer any birth rate. They are being invaded and they are losing their culture.
Starting point is 00:25:51 If Christianity disappears in Europe, the whole world is threatened. Dude, I like that shot of him right there with that gold hat on. Yeah, yeah. Let me get that pause. That was epic. That would be awesome. That's my Pope right there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Dude. Yeah. That will be tight. Look what he said. Gen. Ideology is a Luciferian. Yeah. To receive a sexual nature from God.
Starting point is 00:26:19 That's the most base thing I've ever heard. I love that guy. Jesus. And so anyway, I am an African. let me say clearly, this liturgy is not a place to promote my culture, rather it is the place where my culture is baptized, where my culture is taken up into the divine. And also like, bro, see, that's a really base statement, man, because like people always talk to me about, oh, what about the people, you know, who are around during Jesus' time? What about the people in Japan? What about the
Starting point is 00:26:46 people in Africa? What about the people, you know, in the, the Mayan Aztec civilizations? Are they all going to hell? Did they all go to hell? I mean, I don't know. I can't know. I can't. can't say if they all went to hell or not. But you needed to be baptized through Christ's teachings to truly be saved by him. And that's literally what he said in that post right there. I love that.
Starting point is 00:27:10 That's like real Christian stuff like that. You got to admit he's got that shit on. Is this him with who I think it is? With the OG? Oh shit. Those who use the Bible to justify mass immigration are bewitched. That's what the last Pope was doing. He was saying that like, yeah, there should be open borders and all this stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:27:30 He was a socialist. Yeah, he was, he was the woke Pope. This guy's spitting what the fuck. Yeah, I don't have a vote in this, but if I did, for what I know about this guy, I would vote for him. Why is he having an evil look? Because he knows what he's up against. That's why. It's Senator Kingston deliberate. Love it. Yeah, he has a no nonsense Pope. And then we got the other Pope, the one that just died. And yeah, like we were saying, he was basically the woke globalist pope, but I'll say what I think about him in a second. Liz, you talk a lot about the Catholic Church. What do you see as the legacy of Pope Francis?
Starting point is 00:28:08 Well, Matt, I'm fond of calling him the Pope of the globalist. So that kind of sets the stage for what I consider to be a disastrous 12 years. And despite the fact that he has passed away, I think his legacy is going to be absolutely catastrophic not only for the church but for the world. You know, he promoted climate change. He mandated the Vax. He encouraged unrestricted migration around the world. He worshipped a pagan goddess in St. Peter's. You know, you may recall Matt when he called Trump in 2016 un-Christian for openly criticizing Trump to all the world during the middle of the campaign because Trump wanted to build a wall and wanted to deport illegals.
Starting point is 00:28:57 This burglio has closed all churches worldwide. There's J.D. Vance. He the one killed him. The touch of death right there. He got that. You called him the Pope kill him. You got that vampiric touch. He has actually promoted and protected sexual predators and the clergy. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:19 That is crazy. And I'm sure you remember, there's this disastrous secret. agreement with the CCP that he negotiated. And Matt, we still don't even know the terms of the secret agreement. And it has been renewed three times. And worldwide global religious freedom, Christian advocates have said that this deal that is secret has absolutely collapsed Christian religion in China. It has forced the underground Catholic Church, which is the faithful church, to go further underground. You know, Xi Jinping started using bulldozers to crush all these evangelical churches. They were just leveled right after this deal was signed with the Pope. And do you know
Starting point is 00:30:10 what he said to all these Christian evangelicals and all these Catholics? Well, the Pope is willing to make a deal with me so I can do whatever I want here. And so now we have a China mat, which has absolutely destroyed persecuted Christians, rounded up bishops and priests and laity, and they've disappeared in China as a result of this deal. I mean, if you can imagine anything so terrible. And what few churches are left, they've replaced it replaced crucifixes with pictures of Xi Jinping. I kid you not. That's sacrilegious.
Starting point is 00:30:50 That is pretty sacrilegious to say the least. Yeah. I think God need to drown that place. Start all over. What do you all think about, like, you know, not just this Pope, but the, like, whole concept of, like, the Pope and the Vatican and everything like that? Do you think, you know, it brings, like, puts a bad taste in people's mouth about Christianity? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Yeah. Especially when you've got a wrong pope in there. Yeah. Yeah. It's a great tool if you got the right person now, you can bring a lot of, do a lot of good across society. Mm-hmm. You know? Yeah, but I have no faith that they're going to pick that black guy. If they voted for that, this past priest, they just died, they voted for that. Yeah. They knew who that guy was about. Yeah. Before they voted for him. So it gives me no faith that they actually vote for that. For the far-right black guy. For the guy that makes who's actually a Christian. Yeah. Maybe the pendulum will switch. Maybe, you know, Trumpism, you know, Trumpism. You know, Trump is. Trumpism. Yeah. The Trump effect. Walkism's dying, right?
Starting point is 00:31:48 Trump effect. Maybe people said the walkway is not the way. Let's go with the black guy. He's actually more Christian than anybody in here. Go with what the Bible says. Yeah. And then they can do a little DEI action too with the black guy, you know? Yeah, I'm all for some DIY. Yeah, man. But, yeah, I mean, did you all, like, do you think the Pope really has any power or sway? Because the Catholics say that the Pope is the voice of Jesus Christ on the earth. That's what the Catholics say.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Yeah, well, what he says speaks volumes. It pushes out a culture of Christianity and good of Christianity. That other Pope, man, he was pushing a lot of evil stuff, demented stuff. He could have been compromised. He could have been fooled. I think he may have came at it. And like, look, I don't have any love for globalists or wokeies or climate change people. I feel bad for them because a lot of them are just brainwashed and mentally defective kind of.
Starting point is 00:32:46 But maybe this pope, he's old, you know, he was coming at it from a different perspective. He sees all these young people galvanized against climate change. He sees all these young people galvanized for immigration and human rights. Maybe he thought he was doing something good. Well, in that case, he's an idiot. Fair enough. Yeah, I think that last pope, he was not good for the- If you're paying to take him.
Starting point is 00:33:10 what's going on in the world and you think and you know scripture. Yeah, and you know what's going on where you're, and you fall for that. You're, you have to be an idiot. Fair enough. The idiot woke pope. Yeah. He's probably burning in hell right now.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Because the stuff he was, he was pushing, man. That's, that shit was unclean. Yeah, man. Climate change and stuff too. I mean, like the vaccine putting that injection in your body. Yeah. That whole climate change thing.
Starting point is 00:33:42 When has the climate not changed? I mean, his place used to be covered in ice. He used to say that, like, you know, just driving a car is destroying the world. Yeah, fuck him. No, people like him is destroying the world. I'm tired of talking about this, Pope. The most stuff you put up is piss me off. Well, y'all know who Rabbi, y'all know Rabbi Shmouli, right?
Starting point is 00:34:01 Yeah, him and Kenny Sous was going back and forth, right? Well, yeah, he's, he writes for the Jerusalem, the Times of Israel, rather. The Times of Israel. You went from bad to worst. Yeah. Well, you're talking about smoothiness. Let me ask you this before you get into him.
Starting point is 00:34:16 The name Israel, they named that country Israel. Yeah. Is that sacrilegious what they did? Of course it is. Because I'm reading the Bible now. That's one of the things I want to do before I dies read the Bible from front of cover. And Israel is a family. Yeah, it's a tribe.
Starting point is 00:34:33 And the descendants of that family, wherever they lived, it was like Israel. Yeah. What I think they're doing is. if we want to get real deep. Gaslighting Christians. 100%. To garner support for them. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Yes. And they're using it to kill other people that's already there. They see things in the Bible, right? Like those who bless Israel will be blessed, right? And that takes place in Genesis. So Genesis is the first book of the Bible. That's like before everything was created. That's like way before Moses, all this, like, way before the New Testament in Jesus.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And the Christians of today will tell you, that the quote from Genesis, those that blessed Israel will be blessed, still pertains to the nation state of Israel that was created in the 1940s of today. So it's a gaslight. Only God could name a nation, Israel. Not a government.
Starting point is 00:35:26 They're trying. So that's exactly, and in the revelation, now in Revelation, that's in the, it's talking about the predictions of the future. And it says, a new Israel will be created, a new Israel. That's what it says? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:39 So it's almost like they're creating the prophecies before they happen, right? Yeah. They're created the new Israel. They're trying to get their new Messiah. Yeah. They're trying to find the red heifer because a perfect red heifer needs to be found and sacrifice. Yeah. No flaw.
Starting point is 00:35:57 So they're trying to find it. No blemishes. I heard they'll try to clone the damn things. Yeah, they are. They're trying to interbreed it. There's a bunch of, there's rabbis all over like the world, really, that farm. They go to these farms in Middle America looking for red heifers. It's supposed to be a natural event.
Starting point is 00:36:14 They're trying to create the event. Exactly. They're trying to manufacture the prophecy to come true. Okay. So what is this in about Bible about? What is this prophecy? Israel's going to take over and it's going to be... So yeah, God says that all the followers of Christ and the ones that go with God will be
Starting point is 00:36:31 basically inducted into the new Israel. So it all, it seems like an initiation and not really a land. to me. It seems like Israel is a people and not a land. Yeah, it's people that's chosen by God. Yeah, because they chose Christ, because they chose Christ. But Jewish people don't choose Christ. They hate Christ, unfortunately. I wish they didn't. I would love for them to love Christ.
Starting point is 00:36:57 And I would love to live in harmony with people who maybe didn't love Christ. Hey, tell me this, like the Muslim faith, that was written up of what, would you say, about 600 years ago or something like that? It was in the year 600, like year 600, something. Now, when was Judaism created? So Judaism, right? Hebrewism, whatever you want to call it, the worship of Yahweh, the worship of the one God. The Hebrews called the one god Yahweh. And then when you look at, like, Egypt, right?
Starting point is 00:37:26 Ancient Egyptian mythology, they had multiple gods. They had a whole pantheon of gods. And they believed that the Pharaoh was also a god. So that's why the Hebrews were enslaved by. by the Egyptians. Right. You know, all this stuff that you... But God came and he made Pharaoh look like a fool.
Starting point is 00:37:44 God came and he made Pharaoh look like a fool. And right then they were... Killed all his family, killed his kids, killed everybody. He showed him who the boss was. Right, right. Plagues, everything. The rivers run with blood. He showed him, I'm God.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Your gods are false. You are a false God. And the Hebrews were the ones that worship the one God, right? And then, you know, Moses got them out of Egypt. And then they started worshiping false idols or worshiped. Repeatedly. Exactly. They worship the creation and not the creator. All these things happened.
Starting point is 00:38:14 You can say we worship false idols now in that man-created country, I mean, general. Yeah, exactly. It's a false idol in the form of a country. So let's fast forward to, okay, Judaism's here. Moses creates the Ten Commandments. He creates the Law. And the Jews are following the law. The following the law. Here's the Jews. Here's the Jews. Here's the Jews.
Starting point is 00:38:37 And then Christ comes. Right. And then all the sudden you have a splinting of the religion. You have the followers of Christ that become the Christians. And then you have the deniers of Christ, which are the modern Jews. So you got Judaism, Judaism, Judaism. Christ comes. The Messiah comes. The chosen Messiah comes. And then the Jews that were looking for the Messiah. They're like, I don't want this Messiah. I don't want this king. I don't like this Christ guy. I was expecting a conqueror. I was expecting a powerful king that was going to destroy my. enemies. I don't like this suffering servile dude. So they splinted. And the deniers went one way and the followers went the other way. That's how Judaism was created. That's how modern day Judaism is created. Where did the Muslims come in? See, Muslim, that's an interesting thing. I was having this conversation with my cousins too over the weekend and he's been looking into like, you know, Islam and stuff like that. And I tried to ask him, I'm like, okay, so what did Muhammad, what was he a worshiper of, right?
Starting point is 00:39:37 Let's actually look into it. Muhammad believed in Allah, right? Oh, yeah, I heard the term. Allah is their God. So Allah, right? It's just like another, it's just a translation for the word deity. It's like how God is a translation for deity. It's how Spanish people, when Spanish people read the Bible, it doesn't say God.
Starting point is 00:39:57 It says Dios. Okay, so deity, Dios, Allah, God. It all means the same thing. If I go to an Arabic-speaking church, that's a Christian church, that's a Christian Catholic. church and they're speaking in Arabic, they refer to God as Allah. Okay. Yeah. So when they say Allah, do you talk about God? Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:15 They're talking about Yahweh. Remember how the Jews called him Yahweh. And then they called them God. So when Muslims say praise Allah, we're talking about the same God. The Abrahamic God, the one God that the Hebrews loved and worshipped. But it seems here the God of Islam,
Starting point is 00:40:31 he was the founder and the prophet of Islam. Religion emphasizes monism. which is worshipping one God. And the core ten of Islam is... So he basically was a non-believer until he created his own religion. That's a man-made religion.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Yeah. I guess all religions are essentially man-made. Yeah. You know? But... It just depends on how... When it was written. Like, Christianity is the oldest religion.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Well, I guess Judaism is one of the oldest... But, like, modern Judaism, modern Judaism isn't the same as Old Testament Judaism. Judaism, you know, as we just went over. So you have Jews that believe in Christ. They say Christ is king. There are some Jews for Jesus.
Starting point is 00:41:16 You know, that's what they call them. But they're the exception, right? They're not the same. Yeah, and they're kind of shunned, too, so. Oh. Yeah. By God's real chosen people. Yeah, by the people that, and that's what it kind of says in their town mood, that when their Messiah comes, it's going to destroy all their enemies.
Starting point is 00:41:33 And if you parallel that to what it says in Revelation, in the Bible, it says that, you know, the unbelievers Messiah is going to come before Jesus comes. And who's that? It's the Antichrist. So that's deep. His balls deep. Yeah, this balls deep right there. But yeah, Shmuli. But yeah, what's going on with Smooley? So he's got a person that he wants to be the Pope.
Starting point is 00:42:00 He writes for the times of Israel. Good for him. Yeah. And he's saying, look, let's just have a, we got Candice paraphrasing it right here. Cardinal Parolin. Wait a minute. Why do we got Jewish people determining or putting any input on who should be our next pope? You're not Christian. Does that make any sense?
Starting point is 00:42:29 I don't think it makes sense. Yeah. We don't tell the Jews who should be the top Supreme Rabbi. Right. Well, just the thing, they control our government. And now they want to control our religion. Now they want to control other people's religions. I mean, and when I say they have power within our government,
Starting point is 00:42:47 a lot of people like to deny that. That's a fact, but that's a fact. It is a fact. And we've been over it multiple times on the podcast, too. We don't have to rehash old stuff that we've gone over 100 times. There's a reason why Trump is grabbing green card holders who's protesting against Israel. Yeah. Then labeling them Hamas supporters and then deporting them.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Yeah. Yep. I don't think Republicans are. released that one guy. What's his name? Khalil? Oh, they released. He got released today. Yeah, he's got a green card. Yeah, he's a permanent resident.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Yeah, he was doing everything right, immigration-wise. He's not a criminal. Oh, you're with Hamas. They tried to deport him. Yeah. The judge came out and ruled that you got to release him. This is crazy. And Republicans are like, yeah, send him to, uh, they, like, Juggle, yeah, send him to, the Gaza Strip. I'm like, that's a deaf sentence for him. Why do you think he's like United States protesting what's going in?
Starting point is 00:43:44 Dude, smart. I think he's a medical student. He wants to be a doctor. Yeah, it's like the Republicans don't realize what's going on. I know, and it's just hypocritical to me, like, because they say they're free speech absolutists. But, you know what? But if Trump's doing it, they love it.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of, it's a lot of, it's a cult of Donald Trump, unfortunately. You know, I do, I love that. We love Donald Trump. Yeah. Not all three of us. We love Donald Trump. I don't regret my vote either.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Yeah. But it's unfortunate that he's not the Trump that we want him to be, I guess, because some other powers that have a lot of sway and financial balls really got him by the balls, unfortunately. Our politicians taking, like he's investigating Act Blue. Yeah. Because he says we're getting money from foreign countries. Yeah. I was like, come on.
Starting point is 00:44:35 I know. Republicans, y'all get money from Israel. That's a foreign country. It's so silly. But then you're an anti-Semite if you bring that up. Right. It's a double standard and it will always be that way. Until it gets weeded out of our government.
Starting point is 00:44:50 But if I want to be devil's advocate right now for why the Trump administration is deporting people, I can understand maybe they're afraid of a potential terrorist attack. Maybe they're afraid of a false flag to happen. Maybe they're afraid of the heat. Maybe they have a medical student. Maybe they got knowledge. Well, I would say, I'm trying to take Trump's side.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Maybe they got access to information that we don't. But if they had access to this information, they look like they were releasing to the public. Yeah. Yeah. I hear we. Because if they did have access to information, they would release it to the public because it's all about molding the public's perception. Right, right. So they were.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Yeah. And if they did have this information, why did they let the person come in to begin with? Yeah. I like Kenneth's exposing a lot of this. She's taking a lot of heat for it. And I've seen all this, like, post on Facebook. Like, what happened to her? What's wrong with Candace?
Starting point is 00:45:37 She's not down with Trump no more. I'm sure she, as a president, she's down with Trump. But just because you voted for a person doesn't mean you're going to respect everything that they do. It's okay to criticize. Yeah. Totally. Everything he's done, I'm happy with, except for what he's doing to these people that's protesting against Israel. I don't know how violent they have been.
Starting point is 00:45:58 But I'm thinking they, I think Trump is just, I think Trump is as honest. And he's just trying to do Israel's dirty work. It's unfortunate, you know, you would want somebody to be a, you know, a Christian supremacist, if anything, if they were any sort of religious supremacist. Exactly. But then you got a guy that's basically an admitted Zionist, you know, when he was raised, I'm going to make Israel great again. There's going to be the greatest presidency for Israel. It's going to be so beautiful. You know, and it's like, I don't know if I want to vote for that.
Starting point is 00:46:30 You know, that's why I kind of didn't really. I mean, what's the alternative, Joe? Kamala? Hey. They. Let me be devil's advocate one more time. I'm advocating for the devil a little too much today. But imagine if Kamala did win, right?
Starting point is 00:46:44 Imagine if she did win and she stole it in front of everybody's eyes, just like Joe Biden. It was Joe Pieden, 2.0. And then the radical right gets more radical. And then the dissidents gets more dissonant. And then it's like, ah, we see a more radical rise. Maybe that could be a good thing. It could also be a bad thing because it could lead to people getting imprisoned and, who knows, and maybe another January 6th like event could have.
Starting point is 00:47:06 erupted, but at least you don't quell that spirit of resistance. Now that Trump is in and everybody's like back to sleep now, oh, Trump's in, oh, I can go back to sleep. It's okay. Trump says it's good is good. Exactly. So that's kind of we, now the complacency has taken hold in the right wing party and the radical side has a really simmered down. That's what we're looking at, unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if that would be true. I don't know if, you know, who knows what could have happened if Kamala won. Stock market will be doing a lot better than it is now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Those tariffs really wrecked it. But I think I believe in his long-term game on that. Yeah. When it comes to the tariffs, I think he's doing the right thing. Yeah, I'm cool with the tariffs too. I like it. I'm cool with, like, 99% of stuff he's doing. I guess it's not cool with what he's doing with these people that's actually protesting.
Starting point is 00:47:53 I mean, to try to deport somebody of a green card with no criminal record that hasn't broken any of our laws. That's kind of nuts. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead, Kevin. I think that's what Bill Moore was alluding to on his show. He said, you know, we are. when he was talking about all the deportations, I'm cool with all the deportations.
Starting point is 00:48:10 If you're in a country legally, you need to go. But I think that's what Bill Maher was looting to, which I still don't agree with. He's too wishy-washer, but he said we're on the verge of authoritarian government. Authoritarian, you fucking out. The authoritarian government. But I don't really see that,
Starting point is 00:48:26 except when I see what he did to Khalil, that guy with the green card. Well, it's like over 300 other students, too, that are, like, you know, deported to. It's like a big, it is, it's a big black eye on the administration for me too because it's like, okay, if you have such a problem with these protests, why weren't you doing this when BLM was popping off and actually causing terrorism? Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. They were saying these people was in the country illegally, though, and their Hamas supporters. And then he started saying that, that motto A, a visa is not a right. It's a privilege.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Where did Bill Maher talk about the green cardholders, deportations? He, if you look it up... Was it on his podcast or his show? It was on his show. Okay. He was talking about some of Trump's executive orders is on the verge of authoritarianism. How you say it? Authoritarian.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Authoritarian, authoritarian, or totalitarian. To deportation, but trickier question. What about beliefs? Now, the federal government has said, in the case of this Mahmood, There it is. He's the Columbia University Hamas-loving activist, not my politics by a long shot. He's for the destruction of Western civilization. Really?
Starting point is 00:49:44 In his words. Just to give you where he's at. Okay. Pause it right there. Really, is he against Western civilization he's here reaping the rewards of Western civilization going to our universities? Does he really believe that? Is that what he said?
Starting point is 00:50:00 Is that a verbatian? That's what Bill Morris saying. That's what he believes in. I think there was a quote from somebody that I saw saying some crazy stuff. Yeah, I don't believe it unless I see it coming out of his mouth, especially when Israel's involved. Because they like to say people are being used as human shields. There's no evidence of that. Let's just, let's take Bill's Marr.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Let's take Bill Maher's word for what it's work. Okay. A legal permanent U.S. resident. But rather than he could be expelled for his beliefs. See, it's a tough, tough time. You've got to be really sticking with your, you got to stick to your principles. Like, this guy is to me the worst of the worst,
Starting point is 00:50:45 but I don't think you can throw people out of this country or disappear them for beliefs. That's great. It's more complicated. It's more complicated because it is it. It is because he's not a US citizen. He's on a green, well, hang on. Let me just give my view.
Starting point is 00:51:02 The First Amendment applies to everyone. You can educate me when I finish. I will. That's got to be a Jew right there. He is in the country on a green card. It came in, I think, in 2022. And by the criteria of that, the Secretary of State has absolute power to remove somebody who's in the country on a green card, even if they haven't committed a crime, if he believes
Starting point is 00:51:27 they present a threat to national security to the security of the United States. That's the point I was trying to make. So I guess Pierce Morgan. So the Secretary of State has the power to do that? I guess so. If they sense a legitimate threat and they think it's a legitimate threat, they do have the power to do it. They basically have the power to do it the fuck they want. Yeah, maybe they have access to information that I'm not privy to.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Maybe, maybe. But look like they were released that. Yeah. So it's been on record handing out pro-ha-mass literature, screaming about wanting the destruction of Western civilization, being leading a group which as we saw with our own eyes were terrorizing Jewish students at Columbia I want to see this I'm tired of hearing people saying it I actually want to see it yeah they were stopping students of being memo does not allege any criminal contact it doesn't have to okay well here's what I would say and I would just you know at this point quote I hate this guy
Starting point is 00:52:22 that's your mouth famously wrote that when every single time that you violate or propose to violate the free speech rights of anyone, you are making a rod for your own back. Okay? You, this is not something. Hate speech, offensive speech, objectional speech. That's the only speech that needs defending. The speech that everyone agrees with doesn't need any defending at all. You know, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:47 That's crazy because. Where was this energy when Biden was in office and conservatives were being censored on Facebook? I know. Stuff like that. Where was that energy now? But now he has the energy for this movement because politically that's how he aligns. It's BS. I've seen the entire episode.
Starting point is 00:53:07 That guy's a total fucking loser. Well, they say this guy is against Western civilization. He's very anti-Semitic. I want to see it. I'm tired of hearing people saying this day. Show me. Do we got any videos that this dude saying anything crazy? Anti-Hamas protested.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Do we got any video? Evidence of him of these allegations they're saying of Calil? Yeah. Here, let me get him. Oh, man, that would be all over the place. Yeah, but nobody can find it. There's no evidence to him doing anything. He's just, he's protesting against Israel, and that's why they tried to deport him.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I don't think he's, well, maybe he's. I don't think he's a danger. Yeah, I can't really find anything here. I'm trying to find, like, you know, a statement from him or anything. I can't really find it on X. Like the guy that just got deported, the Merlin man. Yeah, okay, we know he's MS-13. We know he's a white beetle.
Starting point is 00:54:07 We know he's a violent press. He's in our country legal. I get that. Yeah, I get that. But show me what his dude is supposedly in our country illegally, and he's wishing harm on Americans in Israel, death to all Jews. And there's evidence that he's a threat to Americans. Yeah, that's what I want to see.
Starting point is 00:54:23 I'm tired of hearing people say it, like these people in Israel said, the reason why these children and these people are dying is because Hamas is using them as human shields. That's all BS. Mm-hmm. So this is supposedly his Instagram post. Mm-hmm. Saying that's a fact check, though. Heads up, this is fake. The statement came from a group called Columbia University Bengali Student Association.
Starting point is 00:54:45 It was printed in Mondo Wiese on August 4th in his much longer essay, expressing solidarity with the student movement in Bangladesh. So this wasn't posted by Mahmoud Khalil. There's nothing posted of him, right? Yeah. And I guess Pierce Morgan fell for it. Well, let's be honest about this. The reason why they tried to deport him, he's against Israel, the state of Israel. And he had a big voice. And he has a big voice.
Starting point is 00:55:14 That's why. That dude ain't did, nothing than nobody, but protests. Yeah, yeah. He's here legally. He's got a green card. He's taken advantage. Yeah, he's standing to be a doctor. And he's taking advantage of all our freedoms and rights in this country.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Yeah. Yeah, man. And he's a permanent resident. He's a permanent resident Yeah, I thought once you became a permanent resident Only the way The only way they could take it from you Is if you broke the law
Starting point is 00:55:39 Or you became a terrorist or something like that And you committed a heinous crime or something You're just protesting against somebody You feel this The state of Israel You know, that should be covered on the First Amendment I think y'all I think y'all got a good perspective on this
Starting point is 00:55:55 Speaking of somebody that never did nothing to nobody I'm sure you're familiar with the Epstein victim of Virginia Jewfrey. Not J.E.W., but that's the way you pronounce it. Jufrey. It's Jewfrey. It is Jewelry. I thought it was Gutfrey. It used to be Roberts, but then she got married recently and it changed the Jew free. But yeah, Virginia Roberts, she was one of the most famous Epstein victims. Right. She had that photo with one of the
Starting point is 00:56:25 members of the royal family. Prince Andrew. Prince Andrew. Yep. She had that iconic photo. Then you got Epstein's girl in the background. That was a crazy photo. Yeah. There was some nuts busters in there. Because she was, she was underage, right?
Starting point is 00:56:38 In that photo? Oh, yeah. Yeah, she was... How old was she? Epstein was recruiting those girls when they were like 13, 14. So we got a little Mohammed action going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How old was she in that picture?
Starting point is 00:56:49 In that picture? I don't know how old she was in that particular picture, but... You know that dude Prince Andrew, man. He had to have been guilty as seeing, man. Well, now she's... happened to kill herself out of nowhere. Right. And what do you think about that?
Starting point is 00:57:05 What do I think about it? I think it's sketchy. I think it's real sketchy. I know that dude definitely didn't kill himself. I know Epstein, yeah, Epstein, who knows if he's even dead? Who knows if he's even, you know what I mean? Like Epstein, though, the jury's out. That dude's in Israel.
Starting point is 00:57:19 He very well could be chilling in Tel Aviv right now. He and Israel got a sex change. I mean, like really, would you be surprised? Nope. Yeah. Nope. He knew a lot of stuff. He was like very connected. He was very in with the Mossad. Gislaid Maxwell, her father. Yeah, a lot of politicians said he was working for my... Massad. He was a massad agent. He was a massabiding people.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Well, he, his father-in-law certainly was. Yeah. Robert Maxwell. You know what they say to Apple don't fall too far from the tree. Yeah, and a little recruiting, grooming process happens. Lex Wexner, who is the head of Victoria Secret, right? Jewish guy. And he says that Jeffrey Epstein just has... the most charming personality. So Lex Wexner gave him so much money, just kept pouring him with money and assets. And when Lex Wessner asked about this,
Starting point is 00:58:08 he's like, he just had such a charming personality. That's crazy. Yeah, very creepy, very weird. But yeah, Virginia Jewfrey, aka Virginia Roberts, she, you know, met an untimely death, killed herself. How did she die? Did she take pills? Don't tell me she hung herself.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Virginia Geoffrey did not kill herself Drop an A if you agree It's funny before her suicide dropped Right She sent out this really cryptic message How long ago was it? A few years ago
Starting point is 00:58:40 But she put out a cryptic ass tweet Saying making it Make it publicly known that She has no way shape or form suicidal I made this known by my therapist And GP If something happens to me For the sake of my family
Starting point is 00:58:55 Do not let this go away help me protect them. Too many evil people want to see me quieted. I mean, that is just sketchy, sketchy stuff. How old is that? Like a couple years? That's a couple years right here. 2019, right? Yeah. So that's like six years. Its crimes finally came to light. Virginia Jufre was the woman at the center of the story, publicly sharing painful details of her own experience. In a statement to NBC News tonight, her family announcing the 41-year-old mother of three took her own life, writing, she lost her life to suicide after being a lifelong victim of sexual abuse,
Starting point is 00:59:29 sex trafficking, and domestic violence. I don't believe this. Jufre said she was recruited by Epstein's girlfriend, Galane Maxwell, when she was just 14 years old. According to Jufrey, it was the start of years of sexual abuse by Epstein, Maxwell, and their friends. It was that constant, we own the police. You can't run.
Starting point is 00:59:51 You can't tell anybody. will never be held accountable for this. At age 17, Jufri said Maxwell and Epstein directed her to have sex multiple times with Prince Andrews. 17 in that picture. The president denied. Jufrey sued and she settled with the prince in 2022, receiving an undisclosed amount of money. Settled. Epstein and Maxwell were both charged with sex trafficking.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Epstein took his own life in federal prison before standing trial. Maxwell was convicted and given a 20-year sentence. In one of her last social media posts earlier this month, Jufrey said she was hospitalized after a car accident. Oh, yeah, that's the one that was a few weeks ago. This crazy with her, like, all beaten up and stuff. Oh, that's from a car accident? Yeah, allegedly.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Posting a disturbing photo. But days later, she was released. Tonight, the family says they are heartbroken, writing Jufrey was heroic and will always be remembered for her incredible courage and loving spirit. Stephanie Gossk Yeah man Man she had three kids Yeah
Starting point is 01:00:53 It's real sketchy She said a lifelong Lifelong Lifelong abuse in domestic violence Sexual abuse and Or battling it Yeah totally So she was
Starting point is 01:01:04 It's like a trauma Because they recruited her at super young age And she was basically their sex slave Basically like their little Like concubine Essentially that was Just ordered to sleep with whoever they ordered That's crazy
Starting point is 01:01:19 Yeah I know man Like I mean I don't know I'm kind of stupid It's like if there was going to kill it They would kill it a long time ago Right I feel that too right
Starting point is 01:01:30 Maybe maybe she had more to say Why now She's got an ace in the hole She's got this You know She's got a damn VHS tape or something Yeah what is Why do it now
Starting point is 01:01:40 It's just so weird to me But it is weird Especially being a mother With three kids I could a mother And you got a settlement Yeah How could you do that to your three kids?
Starting point is 01:01:49 Yep. Her father doesn't buy it. Right. He says that. Right. That's the dad. Yeah, that's the dad right there. He denies it.
Starting point is 01:01:57 So, crazy. That's a crazy car accident right there. Yeah. Right. Like somebody punched her in her face. Yeah. Baseball bat, freaking hit her upside the head, and then she got into a car accident. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Fucking hell, man. Yeah. Well, we pray for her and all the Epstein victims, that's for sure. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Because I watched a document you on that. Like, just to that whole operation, they would have girls come in and they would, you know, massage with them.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Right. And those girls was actually going to recruit other people. And it was getting a cut. And those people was never charged because they was actually participating. But they said, no, they're a victim. I was like. It was like a pyramid scheme of pedophilia. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:44 But these other girls that was recruiting other girls and bringing them there. they was never prosecuted. Yep. Yep. Because I guess they're victims, too. Man. Hey, man. You know,
Starting point is 01:02:56 they never go and release them Epstein files. Hell no. Hell no. Like, they had this little, um... You remember that, Joe? Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Those, uh... The Xers, the Twitter folks, yeah. Yeah, the social media and folks is up there. There's like, holding these books like, I got the Epstein files.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Yeah. They got the pictures. Got all evidence. It's part one. more volumes coming soon I was like man this is such a joke yeah but Trump said he was could release those right
Starting point is 01:03:24 the FD FD files they ain't doing none of that they ain't doing that all for show hey they released some files on Martin Luther King you like to bang white hookers here's the uh here's your Epstein files yeah that was pretty funny those binders I'm sure they regret being a part of that
Starting point is 01:03:40 I think they were duped maybe maybe they were told like hey you're going to get the Epstein files you're going to be the exclusive ones to do it And why would they give them to social media influence? Well, because we are the media right now, right? We are. You are the media. I would have Patel, FBI, come out.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Yeah, I know. Why doesn't Patel do it? Yeah. You know what? I like Cash Patel. I used to do his show when I worked at the Epoch Times. I used to work on his show a little bit, make reels for him and stuff like that. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 01:04:07 Yeah. And he, it's just funny because he had all this tough talk. And as soon as I become FBI director, I'm going to fire everybody. I'm going to, you know, do all this. going to clean house and it's like he gets hired and then like literally crickets. It's like what happened to that, all that fire. Why have it all that piss and vinegar? Yeah, well, having all that curry, right?
Starting point is 01:04:33 Extra spicy curry. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's been a little over, what, 100 days? We've got a long ways to go. A little over 100 days, right? Yeah, let's see how it is. A long way to go, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:45 A real long way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got long ways to go, man. All right, fellas, I got one more topic for y'all today, and I'm pretty sure it's something that y'all have been talking about a while, and you're all going to have a lot of opinions about Shannon Sharp. Oh, Shannon Sharp. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:05:01 He got good taste in women. I know that. Damn good taste. Hey, bring up the girl he was banging. Oh, Gabby Zuniga. Is that her name? That's her name. It's in her name, man.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Gabby Suniga. Sue Niga. She's suing that niga. Gabby Suniga That's the last name Yeah yeah That's crazy There she is
Starting point is 01:05:25 Gabby Suniga Who is she at? There she is You know I've seen all the black guys Oh man she's average She's average She looks She looks dangerous
Starting point is 01:05:38 She looks good She looks good But she got those It's like Evil eyes man Like she'll suck the soul out of it Yeah she got that succubes action going on. It's like to beat Shenn and show up
Starting point is 01:05:49 with all that money and success and your star is rising. Yeah. It's going to the moon. Yeah. You got to see this coming from a mile away. For real. You got to. That is nuts. I mean, she's basically like a sex operative. Shannon been all up in that.
Starting point is 01:06:05 And Shetan just Shatine blacked her good. But what she's doing to him, man, it is, I've always said this. It should be illegal. Yeah. I've always said that this a special evil in a woman. There is. Because she just wants the money and she don't care who it hurts. Yeah, and they, there's like a, it's like what they did with Andrew Tate, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:06:28 Like every chick out of the woodwork coming, and then they fizzle away and disappear. Yeah, click that one, all right. I haven't seen that picture. To the right. Yeah, that one. Make that one big. That is nuts. Yeah, Shed and Sharp couldn't say no to that.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Hell no. How are you going to say no to that? I know how black man think. He's like, oh, man, I got this white snow bunny with that. I got a black disc. Yeah, I got a black disc. He's like, your name is Suniga? I don't care.
Starting point is 01:06:56 That's crazy. That looks Photoshop. That looks crazy. That's got to be fake, though. It's got to be like a BBL. You think? Yeah. A lot of women get those BBLs.
Starting point is 01:07:04 A little tasteful BBL action, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, BBL, all it is is they take fat from one area of the body. Yeah, move it around. So it's actually, it's like real. Lily Phillips did that when she admitted it to us when she was here. She got the fat transfer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Sorry, Lily. I don't know if you admitted that. Yeah, a lot of women do that. Like, when you said black women do it, it's just ridiculous. That's a good look right there. That's the look she should have went with with Shannon. Oh, man. So she's got an O-F, right?
Starting point is 01:07:33 She does. She's an only fan's chick. What are many followers she got? She's probably popping off. He's probably making a lot of money. Maybe we can find out. Well, she's got 24,000. That's the only thing in her leg tree is her only fans.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Now, fund my legal defense. Shannon Sharp, my story of Shannon Sharp, my tell-all, no, only things. All right. Believe all women. Believe all women. Oh, man, she's got a whole bunch. Did she show how many subscribers she got? I guess you got a, you got to go on her.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Oh, that's the tiers on how much catalog. Oh, okay. Wow. She's got a whole operation going on here. She's an entrepreneur. Yes, she is. She's a business. woman.
Starting point is 01:08:15 She's a business one. She's going get that Negro's money. That Negro's going going to settle out of court. Let me, let me ask you all. That dig his legs.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Let me ask you all real quick. Look at that orange hand man bag you got. You got that green outfit on with an orange handbag or orange man bag.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Look at his shoes that lime green. Got some fat-laces. Dude, he's trying to color coat. I mean, remember this video, though. Yeah, that was funny. Yeah. Everybody was calling him
Starting point is 01:08:42 gay and stuff. Yeah. He had a whole, kind of cover your ass campaign. Right, right. Trying to, you know, tell people he's not gay and prove that he's not gay. And then his sex tape released, right? Remember he's like a little sex tape with the sex audio?
Starting point is 01:08:55 Yeah. And then this whole thing with Gabby, hear me out, hear me out. Do you think Shannon is trying to run cover for him and he started this whole conspiracy to just prove that he ain't gay? When this first happened, that's what I thought. Yeah. That's what I was thinking.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Yeah. But it ain't that serious. It can't be that serious. Yeah. You know what I mean? Just a stupid question. Would that really hurt him if he comes out as gay? Well, his majority of his fans are of the people with the melanin.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Yeah, they are homophobic. Yeah. Black people are the most racist, homophobic people on this planet. Yeah. No doubt. I just always remember this video. First one, first started, his legs was kind of funny. But, yeah, once the video starts with us.
Starting point is 01:09:46 You forget, man, this dude played an NFL for, like, what? How many seasons? He got knee surgeons? All kinds of shit, yeah. So when you get out of that car from a long drive, you've messed up. You know, I stand with Shannon. You know, I'm with him. I got his back on this.
Starting point is 01:09:58 So here's the, here's the phone call audio that they released. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at Shannon's face. I don't know. Anything I say, you're just going to, like, get mad at, and you're just going to make something. Their face is perfect. I'm going to hang up on you.
Starting point is 01:10:19 What is he? What does that even mean? You want to be a dick to me now, so. I don't want to be, don't manipulate me. I don't know, that mercy. If you said that one more time, I'm going to fucking choke the shit out of it. You say that word one more time. I'm going to choke it.
Starting point is 01:10:47 It's like the old Dave Chappellell's get. Is Shannon Sharp going to have to choke a bitch? I heard this clip of a million times. every time I heard I laugh. Yeah. Because I can hear it in this voice like, I'm going to shoot this. You've been there, huh, Keith? But, you know, honestly, I've never told a chick I'm going to choke the shit out of it.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Yeah. You may have thought it, though. Shit. I certainly have. Yeah. Allegedly. She sounds super young. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Come on. Talk. Jane Doe. She's scared. You're going to choke the shit out of him. I don't. She recorded. Yeah, setting them up.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Somebody's talking to her. Yep. You know what? That's why she ain't saying nothing. Well, I don't want to be choked. Oh, she said that hot. She said it really hot, actually. Sounds like the way an only fan's girl would say it.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Yeah, I don't want to get choked. I don't want to get choked. She said, I don't want to get choked. I don't want to get choked by your giant black cock. Shannon. Well, there's some text message. I want your big black baby in me. Big, black baby.
Starting point is 01:12:01 I want your big black Negro baby. I want your big black nevro baby. Man. So here's Shannon Sharp trying to defend himself. To my family, friends, supportive, and colleagues, I want to speak to you directly and from the heart. That is him up there. I'm going to be open,
Starting point is 01:12:18 transatlantic and defend myself because this isn't right. This is all being orchestrated by Tony Buzzbee, who is targeted Jay-Z. Tony Busby targets. black and I believe he's going to release a 30-second clip of a sex tape that tries to make me look guilty and play into every stereotype you could possibly imagine that video should actually be 10 minutes or so what video you know what are those stereotypes I want put the whole video out I don't have it or I would myself you know what happened and you're trying to manipulate the media the encountering question took place during the day at her invitation and now that appears to be a delivery set up coordinated by gabby also known as carly on only things carly gabby and tony busby won fifty million dollars that's not getting is sued for defamation and trying to take me down my career is all about real talk and honesty i know my family and fans know exactly what this is about
Starting point is 01:13:15 and i'm going to be out there telling you whatever i need to say just like i always do i love all you guys is he married or is he divorced no no he's not married Well, if he was mad, he's definitely losing 50 million. His wife's taking half of his shit. I want to look at this lawyer, Tony Busby. Yeah, he's going after, like, big-name black people. So, yeah, he went after Jay-Z, right? Yeah, he makes living off that.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Other people, they said he was on that case with that one football player in the massage parlors. Oh. Deshaun Watson, yeah. Oh, yeah. Travis Scott? You went after Travis Scott? Yeah, I don't think that's a coincidence that all the people he goes after this. Yeah, because this is going to settle out of court.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Yeah. They don't want 50 million. They probably want five. Let me see if he's Jewish. I wouldn't doubt it. Bugsby? Busby. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Let's check his Wikipedia. I stand with Shannon's Sharp. Doesn't say. It's a never good sign. Yeah. Let's just say he's Jewish. Trying to shake another black man down. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Yeah, that is nuts. So here's a Stephen A. Smith. Stephen A. Smith going to bat for Shannon. The court of public opinion is a lot, bro. And it's crazy because you hear, oh, you know, the shakedown, the $10 million offer, the $50 million. And I always tell people, I say, man, if they say we're going to give you $10 million, you're going to give you $50 million, or we can lock him up for five years. What do you think that person to choose? What do I think the person would choose between which person?
Starting point is 01:14:56 The person being accused? No, no. The person that says they put like, oh, girl. If they say, you know, we give you $50 million or we can lock them up for five years. What do you think she'll take? $50 million? Right. So this, and my thing is this, I don't blame.
Starting point is 01:15:13 I don't fault any victim, you know. But that's why some people don't come out when things are happening as well because there's a lot that goes on with somebody either trying to get a chance. And this right here, this does, as soon as I saw Busby was her attorney and all this kind of shit, I was just like. And we saw what the situation went down with Diddy and Jay-Z when it came to Busby as well. And so, you know, listen, like I said, none of us really, really know. And it would be really irresponsible to get into the minutia of it all because we just don't know. But in the end, when you see the details that both parties let out, it certainly seemed consensual to me. But, you know, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:15:58 See, this is the thing. It's like when Andrew... She's trying to say he actually griped her. Yeah. It's the same thing when Andrew Tate was here. And he was talking about it. He's like, I'm a human trafficker. They say, I'm a human trafficker.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Human trafficking is buying a woman a gift and then flying her out to your apartment and then buying her more gifts. That's human trafficking now. So, like, they can literally define anything as human trafficking. Too much ambiguity. Exactly. And then if they have the woman that's...
Starting point is 01:16:25 going to go along with it, that's it. That's all they need. The lawyer gets a payday and the bitch gets a payday. Yeah, it's all about money because if it was anything that actually really happened, she would have called the cops. 100%. But she's not calling the cops because there's not going to be any evidence. You know what I'm saying? And you could go to jail for line to the cops, so they're just doing this civil thing
Starting point is 01:16:45 and they want to set out. I want five, so I tell them I want 50. That's all it is. What do you all think the punishment should be for a woman that does this to a man? like because this this this this can ruin shannon's life this can ruin any sort of take everything from all his prominence all his reputation everything down the train down the drain just because of he she said he said she said bullshit yeah i think you should actually do a jail time she should
Starting point is 01:17:12 I would say like 10 years yeah but nothing going to happen that girl unless there's some kind of evidence well that's our society that's the society we live in you know like there's no repercussions for women and they were saying none They were saying they're going to release a sex tape. They can't do that. It's revenge corn. Yeah. Can't do it.
Starting point is 01:17:31 It's going to slow. And it's like, okay, what if they're just having sex, rough sex in the sex tape? Is that rape? Is that rape? It will prove that it's consensual if they got a tape. If you got something on tape and it's grape, why didn't you call the cops? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:46 They want to use that tape to embarrass him. 100%. It'll say, I'm going to release the sex tape. You better settle. You better settle. Because if there was actual crime on that sex tape, when that tape, they would take it to the police. Yeah. Message to all black men.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Never get what a girl whose last name is Suniga. No kid. He says it right in her name. Well, you got to see that set up coming from a mile away. But it turns out they were seeing each other for quite some time. I bet they were. Oh, I bet they were. Yeah, over a year.
Starting point is 01:18:13 And I think that the relationship was going south and she turned on them. That's what happened. That's crazy, man. Maybe Dr. Umar's right, guys. No, he's totally wrong. I'm not giving up white women. or that fool wants you, but man, he wants you to just only date black women.
Starting point is 01:18:29 No, if you're black. No, I'm a date. I dated everything. That guy's a black racist. Yeah. You all have been down that road before, too, right? I've been down the road with black women. I was like, yeah, you know what, I'm not doing this again.
Starting point is 01:18:40 I gave a couple of my shot, though. So here's the hypothetical. Would you rather deal with a black woman that's going to put, you know, that's going to put her hands up and try to tussle with you? Or would you rather deal with a white woman that's going to try and sue you on false allegations? and then maybe you can beat it in court.
Starting point is 01:18:55 I'll take my chance with the white woman. Yeah, because I know how to keep myself out of harm's way. Yeah, yeah. I'm not going to toe with no black woman. White woman wins again. White woman wins again. Yeah, it was a damn good show. A damn good show.
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