Hodgetwins Podcast - MAGA P***star is HATED By Conservatives AND Leftists... | Twins Pod - Episode 49 - Brandi Love

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

Brandi Love has been in the adult industry since 2007. She has always been politically conservative. Because of her line of work, MAGA doesn't embrace her, and because of her political view, her own industry limits her. Brandi's story is crazy y'all! You already know it's a damn good show! Get your Twins merch and have a chance to win a Ford F250 Tremor and 10K in cash - https://officialhodgetwins.com/ Get Optimal Human, your all in one daily nutritional supplement - https://optimalhuman.com/ American-made, top of the line knives - https://dmoknives.com/ Want to be a guest on the Twins Pod? Contact us at [e-mail] Download Free Twins Pod Content - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_iNb2RYwHUisypEjkrbZ3nFoBK8k60CO Follow Twins Pod Everywhere - X - https://twitter.com/TheTwinsPod Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thetwinspod/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/twinspod TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@twinspod YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdg Rumble - https://rumble.com/c/TwinsPod Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/79BWPxHPWnijyl4lf8vWVu?si=03960b3a8b6b4f74 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/twins-pod/id1731232810

We got Brandy Love in the house. I'm a fan. Really? Yeah, I've been watching you guys for years. Really? Yeah. Are you still active in adult entertainment? I am.

Very much so. Okay. What got you started in that? It's a funny story or fun story. We went to an adult-only resort. We had no idea what that meant. Conservatives dislike me because I'm in adult entertainment. Adult entertainment has issues with me because I'm conservative.

Somebody made a comment to me about, well, what are you going to do when we walk up your driveway and pull your family out of your house and kill you basically and I went I'll put two in the chest and one of the head. It's not like a conservative thing. Can't get no more conservative than that. I love my nickname. Maga milk is great. I will wear that with pride. When I first start watching porn, and then when I got with a woman, it wasn't enough stimulation. If every girlfriend and wife was a porn star in the bedroom, her man would be very satisfied. You know, a lot of guys worry about size. I'm sure you've been with a lot of different men, different size, big, huge small. No two pussies look the same. No two cocks look the same. Everyone asks the stories matter.

Yeah, if you don't know what you're doing with it. Do you get a lot of flak for doing porn with black guys? I shoot a lot with black to black draw and of course milphy. Black. Yeah. Like black. Yeah, y'all members. I know who are? There's liberals that will want me to berate them for being beta males and pussies and different things wearing my maga stuff, which I'm happy to do. This works, not this. Right. It's different coming from you.

I should have did it. Cut that shit out. No, you're keeping that. I will be so pissed if you cut that. You're good. You're good. Welcome to episode 49. We got Brandy Love in the house.

How you doing? I'm doing so good. You doing good? Yeah, I'm excited to be here. Yeah. I've been a fan. A little bit because I'm a fan. Really?

Yeah, I've been watching you guys for years. Really? How'd you find out about us? Scrolling. Screwing? No, I said scrolling. Oh, I thought she said, screwing. Yeah, I got your application a few years ago.

Just kidding. You saw that video about us? I did. I did. Y'all are nasty. In a good way, of course. Yeah. No, but it was probably either Instagram or Twitter or X.

It was probably And I just thought, who the hell? You all are funny. And I just started watching. And for me, authenticity is such a rare thing. Then when I see it or I think I feel it, I'm like, I'm that. I want some of that. And you two seem unbelievably authentic.

Right. That's what makes Trump so powerful. People find them to be very genuine. Because he doesn't give a shit. Right. Yeah. And that's, it's attractive. Just be yourself, man.

Just be yourself. Yeah, no. Yeah. Our career really took off on YouTube when we started just being ourselves. Because I just to worry about it. Oh, I didn't see that right. I said this wrong. Did you go through that?

Were you worried? Yeah. Trying to figure it out. Yeah. It didn't. At one point, I said, fuck it. If they don't like it, they don't like it. And what happened?

And everything's exploded. I love that. I love that. Yeah. So I'm going to start off. Now, are you still active in adult entertainment? I am. Very much so.

Okay. What got you started in that? it's a funny story or fun story to me no it's not quite that funny but after honestly after our daughter

we found ourselves in a very unique situation been married like eight years at that point and nobody can prepare you for a baby and myself included and it was just him and I against the world he had all my attention I had all of his and then it was like ooh baby she needs me And I totally neglected my man.

There's no doubt. I know that happened. And it was about to be a problem if we didn't reconnect. So we went to an adult-only resort. That sounds great. When you have babies and you need to not have babies, we need to adult focus. We had no idea what that meant. See?

The laughter, I get it. I laugh at myself. I'm like, dumb, naive. Mof. Nive, naive. Nive, very naive. Kind of cute, but yes, naive. and it turned out to be, yes, very much a swinger-friendly resort in Mexico.

I didn't even know what that meant. So clothing out of show. Well, how were you at the time? 29, 30. 30, okay. Yeah, right around there. And our first experience knowing that we were in a different, it wasn't just adults, is we're laying out and I'm like, hey, topless, ooh, I was very shy.

Like, that was a big deal. I'm like, I'm taking this off, but I'll take my top off. That's kind of nice. This couple comes in squats, squats. That's an important word. Down by us. Her by my husband. The guy by me.

It's all out. Like, it's like in my face. And I'm going, I literally, yeah, I was a little like, I didn't know if to laugh. I didn't know whether to cover it. I didn't know. Was he erect? No, it just flopped out. It was just hanging there.

Like, this was normal for them. I'd be super embarrassed. It was. Walk around with a limp dick with your tithes and for me? Because it was normal for them. Oh, yeah, because they'll, these, this is normal. They're not ready to get it out. No, no, no, don't use that word.

We'll get back to that. We'll get back to that. He needs some stimulation. He was living his best life. And when they walked away, we kind of went, what just happened? Okay, something happened, but we're not exactly sure what that was. And we were invited to a hot tub party. We went that night, and as we rolled up, we're like, okay, everybody's naked.

I'm not sure I'm going to do that. We'll sit on the side. But then couples started switching. And I'm like, oh, what the? what the is going on? Like I had never seen this before. I thought she was with him.

He was with her. Oh, nope, that switched. And we ended up hanging out for a little bit because we felt so silly. We didn't want to like run, like,

take off? Y'all was playing all shy, huh? No, y'all wanted some of that, didn't you? No. Y'all wanted that fun? We were intrigued and curious, but scared.

Honestly. Y'all didn't actually go through. No, no. No, we hung out for a little bit and left. And the next morning... There's probably think y'all was stuck up. No,

I think they thought we had no idea what was going on. Oh, really? We looked that naive, honestly. Probably like deer caught in the headlight. The next morning we're having breakfast and this, at the time older, I laughed now because they were my age, but at the time we were 30, they were in their 50s. This couple comes and says, could we join you guys for breakfast? We're like, please, like give us some info.

And it says, yeah, we're going to, we're going to mentor you. We're going to let you know what's up. Oh, really? Yeah. I was, I told you it was that obvious. Like, it was that bad. And he proceeded to let us know what the community was about. And they shared their experiences.

And the real tipper was he was the pastor of a megachurch. Really? Which for us, that was us. Okay, my husband was raised Catholic. I was raised Presbyterian. We're both Christian. So this was like heads blown. Because Christianity does struggle with sexuality, always.

There's always this weird force. And we're like, oh, tell us more. How do you blend these? And he did. He did an amazing job through scripture, through kindness, through stories. And we're both like, all right, we're going to have to go home and do some research. And we did. We didn't do anything at that trip.

And months of research is what liberated our minds. And we kind of went, there's no plan B. It's me and you for the rest of our lives. Let's have fun while we're here. And what I mean by no plan B, I'll never leave you, you're not leaving me. There is nobody else. He has my heart, lock, stock and barrel, and I feel the same. And it just, the world became huge.

Right. So that's how it all started. So you got a swinging priest. Yeah. Well, pastor, I think he was a pastor. Yeah, a priest is Catholic, right? He was non-denominational. It was a non-denominational Christian church.

You think about the priest that came to my house today and blessed my Wow. Today? Yeah, actually today. What was wrong with your house? No, we just moved in. Oh, you're just making sure it's all. My wife wanted it done. So that's why he said priest.

I got you. Catholics. But anyway, so, like, being a conservative, like when they see you combine the two being that you consider yourself to be Christian, a lot of conservatives don't consider you to be Christian. Now, this is what I want to say. Like all everybody's we are all centers Like who is waiting to get married before they have sex Nobody's doing that

Right There might be a few but it's very few I mean minute Yes I could probably count them on one hand You know what I mean? So it's like we're all sinners And what do you have to say to that

Because a lot of people on the right They shun you, they push you away How very Christian of them Yeah right I have that to say And second of all For me it's really actually quite simple.

I find freedom in Christ. I do not feel constricted. He made me. He made me perfect. And I, for 21 years, have been in the industry where very few Christians live, work, breathe. So I have an opportunity to be a light in a very dark place. I have multiple times prayed about it. I have multiple times thought about leaving it.

Not because I didn't love it. I do love it. Because I wasn't either growing as a person. I felt stuck. My career wasn't going farther. And every single time through prayer, I'm brought back. And I'm blessed immensely. And my husband the same way.

And we just were exactly where we would belong. And here's what I would say to those, first of all, those conservatives don't have the right to decide who is and who isn't conservative. Period. End of story. I have one creator who decides whether I'm right or wrong. I don't need you to tell me I'm a sinner. Of course I am. We all are.

But what's a sin for me or a sin for you isn't necessarily a sin for me? That's between you and your maker. If you're an alcoholic and you have a problem, drinking is a sin for you. I can drink a glass of wine five times a week and I have no issue. So is it a sin for me? No. Wine's in the Bible. So I would caution people to be very careful about,

judging people for the choices they make? Because how can you possibly know what makes me happy? You can't. You don't even know me. I wouldn't tell you, oh, you should eat that cheeseburger instead of the fish because that cheeseburger looks better. Maybe you don't like red meat. That's a very strange thing. And to me, sexuality is no different.

It's a buffet. You're gay, you're straight. You live in a commune and have sex with everybody. You are a eunuch. Why would we judge somebody for something that makes us so unbelievably unique. Yeah. You and your husband, y'all, how long

have you? 30 years. 30 years. Wow. Now, there's some hardcore people that call themselves Christians and conservatives and have not lasted and marriage that long. They get divorces.

Well, see, that's a very, and that's a problem. So a lot of the conservatives that come after my husband and I, they're doing this. They're so mad at us and how could you? And I'm like, I'm sorry, you're on wife three? Right. And that makes me sound judgy,

but how dare you? Yeah, you just point out the hypocrisy. Thank you. And that's it. And we're, I think humans, we can all be very hypocritical. Yeah. We can. It just depends on what our ideology is.

Yeah. And I have always believed and will continue to believe that as an American, err on the side of freedom, as a Christian, err on the side of love. Right. It is that simple. I don't think Christians do that. Not on the right. What do you mean you don't think?

I mean, like, you know. Right. You know that. don't. Like they're very hard on, they're too judgy. They know the Bible, like the back of the hand, but they don't practice it. Yeah, like that one saying in the Bible,

love thy neighbor as thyself, yeah. And they totally throw that out the window. They're very judgy. Like I had a conservative rapper Christian on the show. Yeah. And he'd probably think you were the devil. Like you probably heard of Bryson Gray I've heard the name yeah like he's very hard on gays

I think he actually scared of gay people I was gonna say what have they ever done to him Honestly what have they ever done to him He's a good guy buddy I said if I think you're homophobic I say you actually said it yourself You look at gay people like that monsters You're scared of gay maybe it's talking metaphorically

No I think he's actually scared of gay people No, I'm serious. His nightmares. Yeah. That's a very, very, that's a very small mind. You're limiting yourself extremely by judging people in that manner, in my opinion. Yeah. Like when it comes to me, voting-wise, I used to be a Democrat, and now I started more conservative.

But I still consider myself to be a liberal. Well, I'm socially liberal, but physically conservative. Exactly. Exactly what I am. Call me what you want. I mean, I've been labeled. I love my nickname. Maga Milf is great. I will wear that with pride because what that party to me represents is a

big tent. Anybody who wants to come in and keep America great, put America first, you're in. I don't care who you sleep with. What does it have to do with what you believe about politics or policy? I care about keeping our country safe, our taxes low, our borders closed. I mean, we have a lot to deal with here. Who cares who you're sleeping with? That's weird. I saw some videos of like other conservatives and they were very ugly towards you. Oh, they can't stand me. Yeah. I have a, I've chosen a difficult position.

I didn't mean to. It's just who I am. I know exactly who I am and what I believe. Conservatives dislike me because I'm in adult entertainment. Adult entertainment has issues with me because I'm conservative. I'm a Christian. How can you? You like, yeah, God made us that way.

Like, if he didn't want us to do stuff, our arms would be shorter. I know you know what I'm talking about. There's a reason you can reach down and take care of things. We were born sexual. And what that means is so individual. And it's certainly something I wouldn't want control over. I wouldn't want to tell somebody else what makes them happier, turns them on. And, yeah, conservatives get a Republicans or the far right, whatever you want to say.

They have a serious issue with sex, which, why? You and I both know, or you and I. You two, Utes. We know, I love that movie, sorry. It's control. It absolutely comes down to control, and religion is a very, very simple way to control people. You did something wrong, pay, repent.

Well, I already did when I accepted Christ. I'm good. Like, y'all need to calm down. If I want to give money, I'll give money. If I want to help something, I'll help something. But to legislate sex, that's a scary thing. thing and the alt-right would love that well they would love that right tell you who you get to sleep with tell you when you get to sleep with them and how many babies you get to have and totally

see a homosexual getting arrested for giving head to a dude well in some countries what's he in for sucking cup in some countries they do yeah yeah yeah I think that's horrible I couldn't agree more hey so I would have touched on that uh what happened at TPS TPS TPS TPSA there you go that event how did that go down you went to the you paid for a VIP ticket. How did that all go down? Explain to us exactly what happened. Exactly what happened.

Okay, I'll try to keep a brief because I won't bore anybody. But those who were watching X at the time, it's all out there. About four months before TPSA was coming to Tampa, which is our drive or so, we bought tickets. A very good friend of mine who used to be a lobbyist

who worked in politics in Washington said, y'all, COVID's over, let's get out. You guys want to go do this thing? Yeah. we've been supporting TPSA. We have college age children. They're amazing. Hell yeah, we'll go.

Charlie Kirk's brilliant mind. Candice Owens, Dan Bongino, Kat Timp, all these people. I'm like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Let's go. So we buy the VIP tickets, which include alcohol. You get all, just letting you know.

I'm telling you the truth. Not telling anything that's not out there. I thought, this is going to be fun. It's college. It's universal. base. There's all these great speakers. There's open bars. And when I say open bars, it was like the Avians open bars.

There was liquor everywhere. They made it out like it's a student event. Thank you. Thank you. I didn't know what alcohol was being served. This is where I'm getting at. So our VIP tickets included, the open bars, all of the events, walk the floors, blah, blah, blah. So people, adults are drinking around children.

Right children. Here's the thing, you guys. The number of children, and I'll say under 18 that I saw with my own eyes was under two. So these were 18 and older. If you go onto TPSA's own website, which I've screencapped before they could change it, it was very clear that they're a university-based organization,

reaching university young adults. They made it out like as high school students. Well, that was convenient for them. Yeah. There were none there. That's not too religious of them to lie. It gets worse. Unfortunately.

Unfortunately. Now mind you, I was. a huge supporter. I really appreciate most of what these people stand for. Charlie Kirk started a movement that's been so influential in getting the Republican and building a Republican vote. And you know,

usually Democrats have been doing all that. You're having young people. Yeah. So it's an amazing organization. They've done amazing work. Well, he's very good at raising money. Let's not fool ourselves. He's exceptional. He's very intelligent. He's very capable. And I mean, he's intimidating. I've seen him

take on people and I'm like, damn, boys. smart. He's tall, too. My brain, like a Ben Shapiro. Like, my brain doesn't, I've got my knowledge and I know what I believe, but, man, they deliver it to where you're like, I'm not asking him a question. Right? Yeah, he's good.

Yeah, he's good. So I walked the floor. Of course, Brandy Love was on my lanyard. Again, they had five months. If there was going to be an issue, why didn't anybody do their research? So I didn't think there was a problem. I showed up, got my lanyard walked around. Right.

wanted a photo and it wasn't they didn't want the photo do you recognize you yeah yeah of course yeah who was it like the one of them was at the nra booth i spent a bunch of time with those guys they were brilliant that one wanted a photo i know the n r a knows about you spent a lot of money with them i'm a fan of theirs too so they were great everybody was very cool nobody made a big deal about it was a click and we moved on went to the first night's events which everybody spoke Charlie and a bunch of other people. I got home and I have a picture of it my phone. I won't bore you with it.

But I had an email. It said, your pass has been revoked. Do not come back. The decision's final. Oh, okay. Was that night? It was that night. Yep.

And so nobody came up to you at the event and escorted you out. No. Well, not even escorting me out. I mean, how about be adults? You know where I am. You have my phone number. That's how I bought my ticket. Be a man or one.

woman, call me and say, here's the deal. We have, be honest, we have a bunch of people give a lot of money who don't like you being here. Right. Right. We know. I mean, I understand if the religious rights paying for this, and I'm a problem, first of all, ha ha, you know who I am. But they're paying and they don't like me being there. Right. I'm, I am a fair person. I don't want to be a problem. I'm here to support you. If I, my presence is making a problem. which I didn't see nobody said anything to me there was no issue I would have left but now that you're being a piece of shit and you send me a baby email that says you got to go with no adult conversation I thought I thought I went on Twitter that night X sorry I went on

X that night and and it just started a horrible war to which they got annihilated because I had the truth and they kept trying to lie yeah I mean we um like on the right one We believe in the Constitution. That's what I believe in. Absolutely. The First Amendment, right? What you're doing is not illegal, even though they may not disagree with your lifestyle. But we believe in the First Amendment.

Right. So either you believe in freedom of speech. Or you don't. No. And see, that's me. It's that easy. Live and let live. If you're not doing something illegal, it's none of my business.

You mess with the innocent. I'm going to come after you. But if I'm protected under the Constitution, you're protected, and you're doing something within that, what are you doing? Right. They shouldn't have, if they didn't want you to come back, they shouldn't have sent us a short, simple email. They should have called you or got in touch with you and said,

look, this is the deal. I could have respected that, I'll be honest with you. And they turned it into a war and what got worse, I had so much respect. I really, really, honestly, had Kansas moments on a pedestal, and I can't. I know too much. The things she said to me and the attacks that were made,

I was even like. Oh, she responded to you? Oh, we had a war on X. It was very public. It's all out there. And I just, I was shocked. I'm like, I just didn't, I didn't, I didn't think they were capable. Again, you're Christian, you're conservative, you're a constitutionalist. Me too. You know, me too. And because I choose a profession and have a lifestyle, you don't understand. I don't even know. How can you say you hate it? You don't get it. You don't understand? Why would that one thing out of the hundred that we actually agree on, would you want me out? I have a pretty big platform I've been using it for eight years I've been taking the abuse but I know what I believe in and for her to say oh no you can't be in the tent you're not a conservative

I'm like I'm sorry who hired you who elected you I don't I don't get that I'd never do that to her she's very anti-porn yes she said ruins probably because she caught her husband what I'm just saying well I've been caught

well you know what though okay I've been just a huge industry street. Yeah, I'll watch it. Who's not looking at porn from time and time. We are visual creatures, period. Whether you're sneaking it, whether you're watching it, whether you're doing it, it is not scary, unnatural, or criminal unless it is. A consenting adults doing something, whether it's videotaped or not, is two consenting adults having fun. My body, my choice. That's what they say until it doesn't fit the narrative. Right. Right. So, and the same with a feminist. Like, oh my God, porn, blah, blah. I'm like, wait, we're.

strong powerful women making our own choices making a whole hell of a lot of money and now you don't like us because it's sex white conserva men hate that they shall make so much money they go to kind like their doctors lorne and you're on heck just getting fucked and making all this money well i mean i kind of don't blame them for being jealous right right i get to do what is known in the entire world as the first and second most pleasurable things known to humankind sex and masturbation that's it one and two and i get to make a living doing it yeah i'm lucky And I guess I don't blame people for being jealous. But why?

Go do it if you want to do it. Right, right. I'm not holding you back. Yeah, I mean, that's the only word I can think of for. Yeah. Because I see they attack women. No, why do you say white men? Black men aren't jealous?

Well, this podcast is on. Well, I'm talking about the conservative men. They're typically white and they, yeah. Do you seriously think that every, every one of my friends that's black, honest to God, are almost all conservative? Really? Yes. literally some won't publicly say it but they are and I know why they we talk about why they don't

publicly say because they get lambasted by their own what like there's no freedom of speech there just because you're born and because you're black you have to vote Democrat right so who yeah so it's it's there some a lot of them I know a lot of people who are that just won't say it yeah like you get it from both sides because of what you do the left and the right that's what I mean I walk a fine line I it's it can be lonely and it can be difficult but but Yeah. We got a lot in common because, man, the looks I get in public from black people. Because of what you wear? No, but me being conservative and who I am.

I forget who I am. They know who you are, though. So they're watching you. I go out in town and I'm in Walmart Target and I say, hey, how it's going and I get the dirt. I forget who I am sometimes. Yeah. Yep. How did it feel when like you've been a conservative, like a Candace, Bongino and all these well-known conservatives like attacked me? I would feel horrible because I look up to these people.

I did. And that's the part that I say is really hard is I have a had a tremendous amount of respect. And if you had 10 topics, I believe to my core that the Matt Walsh's, the Charlie Kirk's, the Candice Owens, Tucker Carlson, that there's probably nine out of the 10 that we are right there. I am so with you. We agree in every capacity. and then because of my lifestyle, I'm out. Well, who looks like the asshole? Not me.

Right. I don't care what they're doing in their private life. And just because it's filmed, look, a lot of stuff that isn't filmed is way nastier than stuff I do. Right. I'm cool with that. I'm just saying, y'all, we both know that's right. I mean, and I think, why would they, of all people, judge me? I just, that's so weird that sex is what comes in between everything.

Sex is like so awesome. Yeah. Well, Ken is... Right? Well, what happened to you? I think that's cancel culture. Well, it was and it happened within my own industry. Right, right.

So not only was the conservative... Not conservatives, but a group of conservatives attacking me for believing like they did, which that's where I thought y'all wanted us to believe like you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then my own industry, not all of them, obviously, but a very loud group... Yeah, a majority problem.

decided to cancel culture me for my opinions on this, well, not my opinions, but my beliefs on the Second Amendment. And I just, and this all happened in 2016, because they decided, orange man bad, anybody who votes for him, you know, you're a bigot, you're a racist, you're this, oh, you're all these things. Of course, there's no foundation, but that was real. And the riot started and somebody made a comment to me about, well, what are you going to do when we walk up your driveway and pull your family out of your house and, you know,

kill you, basically. and I went, this is exactly what happens, so I'll screencapped. I'll put two in the chest and one in the head. It's like a conservative meat. Can't get no more conservative than that. Okay, well, what would you do? Two to the chest and one in the head. I was trained by police officers, so I know what to do if I'm in that situation.

But if somebody told you to that, they're saying, I'm going to threaten you, I'm taking your kids, I'm going to kill them in front of you. Yeah. You're not going to go, okay. Right, right. You're not going to do that. It's unnatural. Well, me saying what I said, this was screencapped and sent across the industry and a group of individuals decided that I was violent and that they didn't want to work with me because of my violent nature. Now, of course, they cut out the fact that I was threatened.

It was just what I said, right? Yeah, they got to frame it in their like. Yeah, yeah. And I actually lost a contract over it. It turned out I was blessed beyond my beliefs because my new contract is so much better. but it was shocking. And it did. To my core, I was shook.

I cried. I screamed. I thought this is insane. Who would do this? I'm just using my free speech. I'm just, you asked, you asked, I answered. I didn't even put that out there. And that was the beginning for me to understand, whoa, my belief system apparently is

going to get attacked from every angle. Right. And to me, I feel like I'm every American. I'm in the middle, man. Yeah. I believe a little of this. I believe a little of that. And I think most of America is in the center.

I do. Yeah. But it's those loud fringes that get all the, they get all the press. Crazy when we came out being black and conservative. Wait, you're black? Yeah. You made me feel good at that for a month. I'm not.

Wow. Who can I be there? Right? It's like the conservatives, the white conservatives, they embrace this and it help because we was catching hell from. black people, you know? And we, when we first did, we thought we was committing career suicide. But when you did what you did, it's like you couldn't, you couldn't go to either side to embrace you. Well, it felt the same. It did feel the same. But what I will tell you is that, luckily I've been in the industry 21 years. And I know exactly who I am. I love what I do.

I love the people I work with. I show up. I'm always on time. I'm prepared. So I got to know directors, owners. And on a more personal. level than even the talent. I live on the East Coast or on the West Coast. I was always an outsider. And I was okay with that. That was good. It provided balance for my life. You know, I don't party with them. I don't go out to lunch with them. I adore them. I respect them. But it was very, you know, you show up, you do your thing and then you leave. A lot of people got this vision of adult film workers. Like y'all doing it all day. You're going in gas days. You're going behind dumpsters. It sounds like to me you treat it like

at nine to five. You do what you got to do and you go home to your husband and your kids. Everybody needs to work. I mean, I was raised this way. You want food. You work. You want a nice house. You work harder. You want a great car. You work even harder. That's the American way. You can have whatever you want. You just have to work for it. So my husband was in biotech. I actually worked for Harley Davidson. I had plenty of career. I had jobs. I wouldn't say careers, but I had great jobs throughout from college all the way till adult interiors. I had jobs. entertainment as to my husband and Corporate life it sucks. Oh, yeah. I worked in corporate. Got fired from every job I ever had. Did you really for what?

For stupid shit You needed to be your boss. I was at um We was at AAA of Southern California insurance company and you were an insurance agent? Yeah, I was an insurance agent I used to handle auto I was an adjuster I was an adjuster so he got me fired too Well we was doing YouTube video video on our lunch break at work.

Nobody knew what hell we is at. It was in a conference room downstairs. Right. So we was doing those YouTube videos and from time to time we curse. And what messes... Wait, you two cursing? But you're on company property. Right, but nobody knows where we at.

There's no signage. It's just... I got you. I got you. I got you. So nobody know. I never tell him where I'm there, right? But we end up doing this video with this guy. Who did? Yeah, he did a... YouTube video. He had a YouTube channel and he did a video bashing the company because he got

passed over for a promotion. And then right underneath those videos are recommending our videos that we did with him. It was a comedy sketch. So that's a problem. And then they call us into the office and they fired us. They pretty much fired us because they was overstaffed for us because it was during 2008. You gave him an easy out. Yeah. Economy took a they was overstaffed. They had to get better people. The HR guy. So you're doing these videos on company probably. It was on your lunch break. But it's company property. You cursed in these videos? I was like, yeah. It's ridiculous. Yeah.

And they fired us for that. But if they never fought us, we never started. And this is the thing where you have to look at all that stuff and just go, you know what? As much as it sucked and it seemed like it was really bad. Yeah. When you look where you're at today, you're like, okay, got it. It all made sense. They never fired us.

We still be there. Yeah. A lot of my friends, they didn't work there. And that would suck. We would all not be better off for that. Yeah. And life is good now. Yeah, it's really good.

Yeah. You know what? We're probably going to catch a lot of flack for my fans. For what? Just who you are. They're going to criticize. Your fan base is... It's very diverse.

We had a transgender woman on here. Okay. Yeah. I had a bat-shick crazy liberal on here. I talked to anybody. Okay. And how did your fan base respond to that? They don't like the transgender,

even though she's conservative. Got a lot of flak for that. Okay, that doesn't make any sense. See, this goes back to the very same thing. You have nine things in common, and your sexuality is the problem. That is weird. Yeah. That's straight up weird.

Who cares? Yeah. right yeah it is that what you're laughing at i'm like dude i believe in everything it's just i'd like to do this you don't like it don't do it yeah i know i know um so you've been married over 30 years and y'all years this february oh wow congratulations thank you and y'all y'all have an open relationship i mean yeah it's obviously not a traditional monogamous relationship um it was for the first eight years and and honestly got hooked in that swinging huh no no you know did he get jealous a little bit no it was me really i'm the more jealous one to the

day yeah to this day which is really kind of funny but it's just being honest well how did you get jealous what happened i know he's like baby i'm coming let's just making me come oh god he's no he doesn't yell like that um but now i know you do damn No, he doesn't do that. But it was, it's more a matter of, from the Tamma met him, I knew he was my soulmate. And I was very protective of his heart. And I still am, and I always will be, as he is with me. And knowing human nature the way I do, he's a really, he's a gorgeous, successful, loving, intelligent man.

What woman wouldn't want him? So when you, when you lock that down and you're married and a little bit insecure, which I think all people are except for my husband he's amazing especially when your spouse is getting fucked you're gonna be insecure no see that's the thing you might be he's not yeah he knows exactly who he is and he knows who he is in my life he's my king he has nothing to worry about when you have nothing to worry about and you don't lack confidence in your relationship there's nothing to fear yeah yeah we've been married uh oh no i'm just sitting back in my wife's just getting done

You looked like she's liking it. Well, would you want her to hate it? That's disgusting. You want her to hate it? Yeah. That's like some sadistic shit right there. God. I'm the only one can make her calm.

That's what everybody thinks. Bitch you coming? You're fucking pissed. Yeah. You're not right. Yeah. I'm just talking about it. A lot of people don't have thick skin like you do.

But that's okay. Yeah. I'm not out there preaching. Never have that. you need to be a porn start. I have a great marriage. From the very beginning, I've said, look, you need to have communication.

You need to, there's a plethora of things that need to be in place and be very secure to do anything outside of monogamy. Do I think monogamy is beautiful? Of course I do. I think those who have it and do it successfully and enjoy their relationship and their sex life, that's amazing.

And there will come a time in our lives where that becomes what we want. And we'll discuss it. If one or the other ever said that, it's over. It's not, it's not, I'm not a biblical scholar, but I think it's John, John 15, where it talks about selflessness, right? So we live in a world that's all about me. YouTubeers, sorry, influencers, everybody wants their hearts, everybody wants to be popular, everybody wants the big dollar.

Me, me, me, me, me, what do you do for me? Well, that has permeated everything, including relationships. That's the opposite of what we're told. we're supposed to give selflessly to your mate to your neighbor to your friends to your family to your children and we we've lost that we've so lost that that it is very scary and what's mine is mine nobody else can have it don't touch it don't look at it put your dick away right but it's we're talking about a different level obviously that's not going to be for you guys it's not be for you guys but it is for some people and the whole point is to simply say you don't go for you

it's working for you why would i judge that 30 years happy children well-adjusted life you're not a burden on the on the society you're making your own money what's the problem where what right um what well i find um what hurts christians um because they're christian now they think they better than everybody else and that what makes them that what uh gives them the positive to be so, you know, judging of other people. And the Bible tells them the exact opposite. So I'm not sure which verses they're reading, but we're supposed to love. We're supposed to, like, look, you come at me.

When some of the alt-right, for lack of better words, the loud, the really hardcore right, comes after me. They're not loving. They're not kind. They're not embracing me. They're not wanting to talk to me. They don't want to ask me how I'm doing. They want to come at me.

That doesn't make me want to believe. Yeah. The things you got from them, what was it like? Was it threats or? I'm telling me I'm going to burn in hell. Of course. You're going to burn in hell. You're going to burn in hell.

You don't deserve to be a mother. You're telling me that I should get run over by cars and beheaded and killed. I mean, literally violent. From Christians. Do you get a lot of flak for doing porn with black guys? No, my fan base is humongous. Yeah. Ever since I went under contract.

with Vixen Media Group and I shoot a lot with blacked, black draw, and of course, Milfie. Black. Yeah. Black. Yeah, y'all are members. I know who you are. You should be. It's great stuff.

I wonder who came over with that name. Blacked. I mean, come on. Does it get better? It's like so there. Hey, everybody. We just gave away that Camaro Yanko dish. Now we're giving this way.

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Who's your two favorite black guys, huh? Go to officialhart21st.com. Anything you buy from the site, get you automatic. Yeah. Into the wind. Yeah. No purchase necessary. Boardware prohibited.

See official rules for details. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of white guys love to watch Black Tau. I think everybody does, and not everybody, obviously, but a large majority of people do because it's visually stimulating. The contrast in skin tones is beautiful. Right. That's what got me into it.

I'm like, whoa. Before I even knew it had a name, to me, they're people. There's a guy and a chick. They're fucking. That's a thing. That's sexy. Why is this one so much sexier? It's the skin tone.

It's the visual aspect of it. And the black guys, they're always like this long. But wait. No, come on, now. That ass is up in the ceiling, and he's still inside of it. And he's just slamming all that shit in. Yeah, you know, here's the thing. Every guy in porn is big.

That's why they're in porn. Yeah. They were born a specific way, and they figured out how to make money off of being, so well endowed. So how many guys have you seen in a porn and we have a little dick? What's that fat dude? He's big, what? Ron Jeremy. Yeah, Ron Jeremy. He used to be big time. Big fat, hairy hedgehog. I never worked with him, so I, no, that wasn't my...

He's got some serious trouble, didn't he? He's locked up. Last, I heard he was in jail, but is he still alive? I think he is. I know he's very sick. So that's why I was asking about his health, because his health was really bad last time I heard, but I don't really follow. You're too many dick pills, huh? I don't know. I don't know what happened. Well, maybe he gets caught.

Yeah, drugs and recreation. Not everybody in porn does drugs, just an FYI. No, I'm not, I didn't mean to imply or sing like that. That's okay. Everybody else does. He's still alive. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah, he's still ticking, huh? He's still in prison, right? You're busting them nuts, huh? I don't know about it anymore, man. Hey, so it sounds like the adult films has been great for you and your family. What are some of the dangers that you came across that you was able to avoid? That's a great question. I've heard stories.

I've heard some really horrific stories, and I don't share that. Maybe because I got involved when I was 30, I had a very strong foundation. I'm married. I have a rock of a husband who we came into the industry. Eyes right open, we chose it. It wasn't the other way around.

We're college educated. We come from professional backgrounds. We chose to be business owners, and this just happened to be what we chose to do. We're always wild. We always kind of beat to our own drum, and I was doing bikini contests at 17 and just we're a little wild.

Right. So it should have come as no surprise when somebody says, you can make money fucking? We're like, yeah. Where, where can we do this? And for us, with our backgrounds,

we took it very seriously. We attacked it like we had a performer, we had a business plan, we had, I mean, and we've never wavered. And a lot of people don't approach it that way. They don't. Well, a lot of women are exploited when they come in by themselves,

not educated. Especially young. That's what I mean by the sad stories where, look, if you're 18 and you don't have family or you don't have a strong foundation, you don't have an education perhaps, maybe you do, maybe don't. And you go out into this world, especially now, milk's 10 bucks. You're probably thinking, what the hell am I going to do? Starbucks isn't going to cover rent.

Right. And maybe some of them like it. Maybe some of them don't. But they can be used if your mind's not sharp. I came into it. I'm knowing what I wanted out of it and I and I'm taking it. I'm doing exactly what I set out to do and I still have more than I want to do. If you come in just like a fish out of water going, ooh, that's a great paycheck, I'm going to go buy me a handbag and your money's gone like stripper mentality where you make a thousand bucks next to you're 20.

Right. And you can't afford the house fee. You're always in the rear, no pun intended. But sorry, if you approach it like a real job and I I'm a Dave Ramsey fan. We're at 8010, you know, 80, 20% get saved, 20% we live off of. I've done that. Thank God my father taught us that. And whether it's porn or a CEO of a business, for us it's the same thing.

We just happen to really love what we do and it's a ton of fun. Yeah, I think everybody enjoys sex. I wish everybody did. Let's be clear about that. I think they do, but their inability to translate to saying I actually like it. Like somehow it's bad. Yeah. If you masturbate, oh my God, you're going to hell.

Right. Really? Yeah. They believe it. My mom should tell me that. You know, God's looking at you doing that, Kevin. I was like, I was with that drinking. I was like, man, I'm with God's.

So I cut all the lights all. So God. Did you really think that? I was a kid. I was like, live tweed with you know. Check it off, bro. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I was a stupid young kid. No, you're not stupid. No, that's what mom told us. That's what you're taught. That's who's defining your top process. And my mom used to wake me up. That kind of sucks.

That's weird. I had like. He actually came across like pornographic material like that's seven. Oh, that's, that's, that's all by accident because we moved into this house. We went downstairs in the basement and was a bunch of nudie magazines. It was an unfinished basement. They left them. And they left that.

I think it was like seven, eight. We was going through the pages. Okay. I was like, We're just looking at each other. He got tingly. I got, I got it wrecked. And we even did the sword thing.

We was like, yeah, mine's bigger than yours. No, he did. Yeah, he did. Look, he's denying it. He's like, no, he didn't. Isn't that shit the same? Like, aren't it? Isn't everything the same?

Yeah, pretty same. He's just left-handed. He's a half-hank's taller. He's fatter. You're so many picking on him. He's stopped. It's all those pieces and cheese. burgers yell eight.

Yeah, we need to get back in shake. Yeah. You look disgusting now. Stop. Stop it. No, I don't. Sucking mine in. You ever been in like a scene in your profession where the guy was just too big?

And you said, no, this is not going to work. Oh, he was very unattractive. No, not the unattractive aspect. I can find something I enjoy about almost anybody. Oh, really? Yeah. That's that 9-10 thing. Just focus on the positive, right?

Yeah. Yes. Literally. And it's always turned out fun. Sex is fun. Again, if you can't have fun having sex, you need to get a shrink. I would have empathy for somebody goes, not sex sucks. That's just, that's crazy.

But yeah, one scene in particular, love the guy. He's amazing, just a light. He's humongous and humongous. But his personality is so just endearing that if it weren't for him being so incredible, I probably would have called it, because it was like having a baby. I'm like, I need a, I need a midwife. Somebody needs to get in there and work on stuff because I was like, I remember looking at the director. I'm like, I don't know. I don't know if this is going to happen, but I love a challenge. So I'm like, I'll figure this out. Pray for his wife.

He doesn't have one. Yeah. Yeah, no why. No, no. No, that's, I mean, we laugh about it, but it's probably very serious. I remember asking him, I'm like, it's hard to date, isn't he? He's like, yep. Because even if somebody's in love with him, they're like, I don't know. I want to do that every day. Yeah. It's a lot. It was a lot. I'm trying to get stabbed to death of it.

It's a lot. I'm sure there's a woman out there who would love it, but, you know, it was a lot. Oh, Marcus. She probably had to take one of those butt plugs and shoving up a vagina to stretch. I don't, I don't think that's... The hell, right? You're looking to me like that. No, we both are.

We're more like, what? You're going to be like, I'm a horrible person. You're going to take a butt plug and slam it up in there. What, just keep it stretched? And then when that one gets easy, go get it. go get a big one. That's what I'm saying. That's called training.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. Well, whatever. Let's keep this move. You know, when we was younger, we just got the military. And I was having problems, finding, like, jobs and money.

And I lived in Oax County, California. And in the paper, it was a dope. Is this where you wouldn't fill out the application? Yeah, we went to a porn audition. You didn't know that's what it was, though. Or did you? Yeah, I didn't. I pretty much figured it says adult.

It was under. Yeah, we were just trying to get something that I didn't have to show my face like a glory host. That's pretty hot. Yeah. Right, but we end up walking out because I was scared my mom was going to see it. Not that my mom looks at porn. It's just my cousins would tell her. And what would happen if they did?

Oh, my mom was so religious. She would have been so disaffirical. She would have been so disaffirical. appointed and yeah and um i didn't want to break a heart so we found another way no that's fair i totally understand and a similar situation happened um that's like 1920 was no it's 22 23 yeah 23 22 22 yeah mid 20s yeah that's a time oh your life would have been very different than right now huh yeah we was getting calls for like three months from san fernando valise man my page is blowing up You sure you don't want to do this?

You would have been successful. The producers love you guys. Yeah, I can see the titles now. Oh, my God. Think about it now if we wasn't married, put on Trump hats, and we'd just be banging blonde hair and white chicks. Making a birthday,

I'm not saying anything to that. That'd be crazy. That'd be hot. There'd be a lot of Charlie Kirk fans watching. Yeah, there would be, but they wouldn't tell you they're watching. You definitely know. the NRA's watching. I get a lot of custom requests for that.

Really? Yeah, wearing my Trump or MAGA stuff. Oh, really? Yep. And they're not from... Yeah, customs, yeah, where they want something very specific, whether it's a photo set or a video. They...

And honestly, mostly conservatives, but there's liberals that will want me to berate them for being beta males and and pussies and different things wearing my MAGA stuff, which I'm happy to do. Really? But it's, I didn't ask, I'm not, that's the request. And again, whether I, I mean, there's been some I've said no to just because it does nothing for me.

And I would not take somebody's money and then not be able to provide what they're actually looking for. Because I, I believe it's serious. You pay for something. You should get what you want. But those ones, I'll read it. I'll read it again. I'm like, wow, that's really interesting. Yeah.

Yeah, I'll do that. Yeah. Men be coming up with the darned shit, huh? People are creative, especially when it comes to sexuality. Yeah. You have an only fan's right How does that work

From a business Point of view How does it It works awesome Yeah You just film the shit Upload it And put your price on it

And they'll just click it and buy it So the money that you charge Say you charge 999 a month How much of that you get? They change 20% Only 20% Yeah While YouTube takes like what

54% What? 55 I think Are you serious? Yeah Yeah that's a lot Yeah I didn't know that

But to me, the 20% is more than fair. We're on their servers. That's a lot of content. I can't even imagine their server bills. And their platform is very user-friendly, and the admin's amazing. So, yeah, I spend a tremendous amount of time. There's days I'm on 14 hours. I mean, it's like Vegas.

Ding, ding, ding, ding. Every damn that comes in is possible income. Are you paid daily or monthly? It's monthly, but your contents individually price. Like some people like to do sexting packages where, like, for 20 minutes, it's X amount of money. Do you want a voice note? It's this much money.

Do you want a custom? And then your content is priced. You know, each video is a certain amount of money. And everybody's different. I'm just doing my own thing, staying in my lane, and I love it. I've been online since 2019. And I'm my only brandy.com, which is my only fans, has by far exceeded what I thought my financial life would look like.

Very, very grateful. Yeah. And that's another huge problem I have. with conservatives that want to shut down only fans, so you want to starve out families. The number of jobs you would be taking from hardworking Americans, you think it's funny because we say hardworking,

that's some bullshit. There are girls in the industry and men who work way more hours than their corporate asses, and they deserve every penny they get. You know, so I find, and it didn't start off as adult. Onlyfans has been, I was late to the party in 2019. I was late and I went kicking and screaming going, oh my God, not another platform.

I have enough to keep up with. And I think God did. And within the first month, I went, okay, this is different. I'm going to focus on this and see what happens. And it's been very good to me since 2019. If Portland has ever banned, it's going to be because of Republicans. Yeah. But that would never happen.

I actually disagree. No. And I'll tell you why. What are the platforms that have banned adult? Facebook, liberal. Instagram, liberal. Tumblr, liberal. So don't be mistaken by, well, we don't, that, that cards out.

I'm a fan of his, but do we really know? Yeah, that's what a lot of people say about. I'm a little, I love him, I do, and I'm thrilled that he backed Trump and that he seems to be very much for pro-America, America, America first. Right. But do we know? Right. I mean, personally, my ex-accounts constantly shadow banned.

That's not a thing, Brandy. Really? Search me. You can't find me Right Yeah they won't let me monetize There's a lot of stuff Like you're for free speech

But there's a lot of problems With my account Has it gotten better Since he's taken over? Yep It has But is it Is it truly there?

No So the jury's out on that one Yeah I just like For me Like when I hear Like these mainstream concerns When they talk about porn The way they look at it

The way they see it I would If porn was ever abandon this country. I would think it would be a bunch of Republicans. I don't think it would be Democrats pushing for that. You would think, but I have a propensity to disagree. Really? Yeah, just because it's never happened. Well, look who's doing all the censoring now. Every rep—yes, that's what I'm—that's what I mean. By that's who's right. Exactly. And every Republican has run on that ticket saying that they'll do something about it since before I was born. And how many times does it happen? Right. They get the money

from the alt-right and then do their own—they know it would be an insane thing. The Supreme Court has decided on this matter. Right. Freedom of speech. Thank you. That's it. It's done. So they're always going to fight for it the right because of the far right.

And we always think that the left is so liberated and open-minded bullshit. They have been the meanest to me and I have been more censored by them, the left, than I have even my hateful conservatives. Oh, poor things. You're financially free though, right? Yeah. I'm getting there. Yeah.

I'm getting there. Since about 2013, I've been parlaying my adult income into real estate. I have a pretty diverse portfolio. You know, my background has taught me a lot. My great-grandfather is pretty famous, and it was the idea of... He was a stock trader. The stock trader. Yeah.

Yeah. Didn't end well for him, but he was an incredibly brilliant man full of... charisma and his brain, his brain worked differently. I don't, I don't have that numbers thing that he did, but his love for people and his love for life and his zest, I have all that from my great-grandfather. And being financially free is hugely important to me. Fucking money's fabulous.

Who doesn't want that? Exactly. Now, I'm close, but I also have three projects now across the U.S. and the one in Greece. So, you know, it's scary to watch. But then you know on the flip side, when we get there, it's going to be good. It's going to be so beautiful, right? Yep. Yeah.

Like a lot of, like, I'm talking about the writing end. They say porn is, like, addictive and it ruins society. What do you think about that? I think that's lazy. I think that's intellectually lazy. In a very... Kind of dishonest, right? It's dishonest, and it's calling out the redhead stepchild.

It's rude. That's mean, you have no self-control. I think a lot of people that say that, they're just looking for brownie poems. Well, yes, it could be the case, but there's... Trying to appeal to the base, too. Yeah. Exactly. I just, I, I, there are people in this world who have addictive personalities.

It doesn't matter whether you give them this, whether you give them religion, whether you give them drugs or alcohol or porn. If you have an addictive personality, you're probably going to struggle with whatever is the newest thing. But I do find it intellectually lazy to say that you're addicted to porn because all humanity enjoys watching something. sex. Yeah.

Relations has killed more people than anything. That's very sad. It's supposed to liberate and give them life. Right. Yeah. So. I don't see a bunch of porn stars dropping bombs and flying planes in the building. No, because our dopamine levels are off the chain because we're having orgasms all the time.

You don't see people who are having sex in a healthy relationship often that are nasty. Right. They don't walk around with a grimace. They're not walking around at a 10 ready to punch somebody or hurt somebody. They're happy people. Yeah. And if nothing else. The most better people is the lonely people.

Well, and I don't blame them. It sucks to be lonely. I wouldn't want that for anybody. And to be fair, a lot of my only fans, longest term members, I have pretty complex interpersonal relationships with. It's not all sexual. I mean, yes, there's a lot of that thing. God.

I love it. But there are some that you know, especially during COVID, where they're like, I just want to talk. And you find out, what's going on? I'm locked up in my apartment. It's been weeks. I lost my dog or my cat or my one thing, and they're just so lonely. And I'm not a therapist.

I don't have my Ph.D. I should. I really should. But it's so much more than just sex. Or I should say can be. Sometimes it's just pure. My dick's out, let's go. And you're like, all right, let's go. And other people need so much more.

And for me, the complexity of it all is what's so fun. Do you think such a thing is too much sex? I've never seen it But I'm going to look for it I'll let you know if I If I discover that Man if there was I mean I'm pretty I have a pretty high sex drive

My husband even more so And honestly even where I'm at If somebody said if you drink this You're gonna you're gonna feel horny A lot more I'd take it That's the best feeling in the world I mean I don't know anybody who's honest Who would go no I hate that feeling

Right come on Yeah Well, the people that probably hate He's probably ain't got no girlfriend and anything And probably unattracting them Man, I'm horny shit It sucks

So jerk off Yeah Well maybe it's not as good It's not the same Like anyone he can masturbate Obviously it's great But it's never as good as having a partner Right

Yeah So I mean I guess if you're jerking off all the time You're going to get angry about it Your hands sore or something I don't know Yeah when you run your only fans Do you see the names of the customers? No, just the screen name

Oh okay Yeah Did you ever recognize any anybody? Well, those who tell me, like, they'll tell me who they are. They're like, hey, I met you at avians two years ago or, I'm sorry at the airport, whatever, you know. So yeah, someone will send me photos and go, do you remember meeting me? And it's fun. I mean, they're there. I remember this when I was a dancer, when I first started dancing, and I went from Harley Davidson to stripping. And as I was a stay-at-home mom, and I'm like, I miss earning. I really love to

and I'm a capitalist. And my husband was killing it. He had a great job. It wasn't about me needing to. I was ready. She was like three. And I wanted to contribute to the family. That's just who I am.

I always have. I was working at seven, you know, throwing newspapers. I love it. I love to earn. And it sounds crazy. Like, how did you go to stripping? Because I had no experience. I was never a model.

I did the bikini contest. That's true. But a girlfriend told me about, hey, amateur nights. this Friday or whatever it was. Like my air's perked up. I'm like, if I don't just do this, I'm always going to wonder. Always going to wonder.

I was nervous as he or the first time you know? Oh my God. Almost as nervous as I was coming here today. Yeah? Yeah. Very nervous. But it's a nervous. It's a nervous. It's a nervous excitement. I didn't know it would be. That was the nervous part. No. No. When you go do that, I would think it turns for a home.

I'm just joking. I'm trying to learn here. Let him learn. Come on now. But that was like a. A sexual experience for you? Yeah, yeah. A learning experience, sexual and learning, because I was like, I was raised on stage, basically. I was an ice skater, competitive ice skaters, little kid. I was a trained ballerina, tap, jazz, ballet, gymnastics.

I was competitive and on stage. So that part didn't scare me. I actually like it. In a way, you're an exhibitionist when you are on stage. You guys are on stage every time you're doing your podcast. Cameras are on you. You're good at it. It's natural.

Yeah, but it's different when people are watching you. That's where I was so nervous. I'm like, what if I run off stage? Like, it's going to come time, and I might flip. I didn't know. I did not know, but I had to find out. I'm very curious. I picked up a pair of stripper shoes on the way.

I didn't have any. I didn't own a thong. And you had your husband at the time, too, right? That's the interesting part. Okay. He was out of town, and we had the nanny at the house, and I didn't tell her rest of now. I was just going out.

And I called him. him at like 11 o'clock. I said, baby, you're never going to. Now, we've been in the strip club together before. So it's not like out of nowhere. And I said, hey, guess we're mad? It's like, where you at? And I said, I'm at the strip club.

He goes, will you do it? I said, I'm going to do amateur night. You cool with that? He goes, hell yeah. Go get him. You know, he was all, like, he was excited about, call me when it's over. And that just made it really hot because I knew he thought it was hot. And I ended up winning.

And I almost fell off the stage. I was a total buffoon. I had no idea what I was doing. So they gave it to you because you got white privilege. 100%. That was my first time learning. No, good God, no. I sucked, but I was authentic.

I had fun. When it came time, the song was right, I became the performer that I clearly enjoy being exhibitionist. And I was smiling and laughing. I had the best freaking time. And it was afterwards that somebody come. up to me. I walked off stage. I had no idea. They come off with a bucket of money and what the fuck of that? I get that for doing that. I'm good. Like, I had my fun. And I went, oh, hell.

How much did you make that night? I don't remember now, but I mean, I was on stage for one song. It was amateur night. And I think it was like 800 bucks. I'd never seen that much cash. Oh, wow. And I was like. For a song? 800 bucks? Yeah. That's what I said. But you got remember, I was green. And there's an excitement about it. I was not a seasoned. stripper. I had no idea what I was doing. And I think looking back, that was probably what made me so successful. I was just having fun. Yeah, those guys, man, she tried, man. She tried. Give that girl some. Give that girl some. She's the girl got for dinner. And I did. Yeah. And that's what kind of opened your eyes to the, um, it was very liberating. Had nothing, I didn't know about porn in that sense.

My husband, I always watched it and always enjoyed it. It was a very, it was fun. Tell you used to watch it together. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We did. In the beginning, I was jealous. I caught my husband. I was, I caught my husband. I was, that chick. Because, y'all, come on. Women are very insecure.

Emotional. So if the chick has got bigger breasts or she sucks a better dick, we get really like, what am I doing wrong? Right. Sucks a better dick. Well, they do. They're professional. So instead of becoming insecure, I started watching to learn.

They do know better than civilians. They know stuff. and I remember watching a few Nina Hartley had a series of videos and this was back when I was way before I wasn't even dancing at this time

he was gone out of town and I watched these videos on how to give the best blowjob she had this whole series it was educational and porn I mean it wasn't like on a banana it was the right and I'm like

I thought I was good and he's happy he comes every time and I'm watching this video I'm like oh shit I got a lot to learn he comes home and I did the things that she was talking about. He goes, as you two would say, God damn!

He literally, I'm sorry, I love her. I'll do that. So he like, it was one of those moments where he's like, where did you learn that? And I told him, I said, these videos, she's really good. Like, she's really thought-provoking and she shows you. And he's like, yeah, yeah, she good. She's really good.

And that kind of opened my mind to realizing how very important sex was and enjoying it. Yeah. I think it's more important to a man than it. Well, men are more sexual creatures, I think, by nature. You're designed that way.

You've got to repopulate the earth. Yeah. Got spread that seed. You ain't sucking it right. Here, watch these damn videos. Give you a couple hours to practice. I'll be back. You would never say that.

You know, like when I was... But it's funny. Yeah. Like, man, you was like really... Well, anyway Where were you going to say? I was going to say this. I guess I was like when I first started watching porn when I was young age I was like because I was a virgin at the time

So I look at them okay that's what girls like So I got with this girl and it was my first time And I was doing the stuff we was doing and she didn't like it Because the point I was looking at The guy had her legs like wide open Maybe she wasn't flexible Right and I was just slamming it way too hard And when we don't like that

No, usually not. You got to warm them up first. No, it's great once you're warmed up. Yeah, once you warmed up, but I find most women it's like more slow. Sensual. They prefer more sensual. Right. But she did.

It's like the things women like in bed, I'm like, damn, I'm barely moving. What do you have a donkey dick? What's going on over there? I was like, I'm not even trying. So all I got to do is just stop crying. Yeah, because it's like, it's like, With a woman is the little things is kissing, caressing, where you hold her. Yeah, like, most women don't like to be like, like, if you're hearing all that, it's too much.

Yeah, usually. Yeah. That's not ideal. But every single person's different. And it's so. Some women like that. Just pay attention. Your partner's body language is going to tell you everything.

And if they're capable and liberated enough, they'll tell you. There's nothing hotter than for me, somebody telling you. I don't want to be doing something wrong. If it's ineffective or hurting you, for God's sake, speak up. Because I want it to be a pleasurable experience. I remember this, I would do with these girls that would get on top. And the way they would ride me? How many girls were you with? I think it was like

two or three. You think? Yeah. I've been with less than 10 women. You're talking about at the same time. No, not same time. Oh, my brain's like, 10 me and three. I'm sorry. I'm slow. I didn't catch on. But a woman would get on me and the way she would ride me. She would ride me like my damn dick was the San Andreas fall. She was about to rip it off. Just going back and forth. But that's not comfortable for you. That kind of felt good.

Yeah, she liked it, but it wasn't, yeah. You might want to get her a vibrator and let her stand still, like up and down. No, I didn't call her back. I said she didn't have ripped my dick off. But you know what, this is one of those opportunities where you could have said, you know what, that's actually not working for me. You're so sexy, but could you try this? People are so afraid. It's part to the woman that because I've done that.

Nasty, did she turn on you? It like hurts their feelings to get really emotional. Well, fuck you then. You don't like it? No. like, no, it's not that. It's just that this is what I like, you know? And they I don't know, they get emotional, they think

they just give up. But that's insecurity. And there's no doubt that women are horribly insecure, all of us. It's in our for some reason, it's in our makeup to be insecure. So those who get over that, and whether it's through time, through love, through caressing, through verbalization, through gifts,

through taking out the trash, whatever their love language is, it's reaching them and letting them feel safe to share things like, I don't that's not working for me. Could you do it a little softer? Could you go up and down instead of front and back? Like having these conversations, it can be done,

but it's not going to happen without the foundation. Communication. You know, a lot of guys always worry about size. I'm sure you've been with a lot of different men, different size, big, huge, small. The size really matter? Snowflakes, not in the political way, but we're all different. Everybody is so unbelievable. No two posties look the same.

No two cocks look the same. and everybody uses them differently, right? So, you know, I don't have, like, everyone asks the stories matter. But yeah, if you don't know what you're doing with it, if it's too big or too small, if you don't know what you're doing with it, yeah, it matters. If you know what you're doing with it, it's the least concern. Really? Yeah.

Is that a perfect size? I would say anywhere between six and eight is amazing. That's bigger than average. That's big. But, you know, I'm a married to. I'm married to somebody that size. So for me, that was always my usual. Like, he's a big man.

Five and a half is considered average. Average. According to statistics, I haven't done the research visually. I don't, you know, but five and a half, that's a big dick. Like, that's more than satisfying. How about two inches? No, three inches. I need to buy a walk around two inches.

Yeah, I've seen one. Really? Yeah. You know how to use it? No. No. And honestly, I didn't eat. I didn't know what to I didn't know what to do really yeah yeah I was size they say size

doesn't matter but if it's two wages you're fucked right well it's like it's like a snack no I I honestly it was one of our first swinging experiences and great couple they were really fun we were all very new especially I didn't laugh at him did you no no God no like it's a good person I I am I would never that's not their fault it's not like they said hey god when you deliver me to earth could you give me a little chode yeah no nobody says that that's what you call them chodes well actually his wasn't even a chode because it wasn't thick it was just little yeah chodes see it's chodes it's fat yeah chodes a fat it would be like it would be like the cap of this yeah yeah that's a chode

jeez net short yeah yeah yes it's chode he's walk around with a butt plug so anyways what my first experience that. We were getting it on. Everybody was having fun. They're very sexy, both of them. She gets on my husband, and I hear her gasp. And I'm like, yes, my man, he's getting it. And she's in, like, I mean, like, a circus act over there. She's going crazy. And I get to where I pull the pants on. I went, oh, that's why. My husband is big, and she's married to him. She loves him. It was obvious their connection, but she was getting that dick because she doesn't get that dick. I'm just saying.

And I honestly, I remember my husband looked at me and I looked at him and I don't know what I'm going to do. It was that small? Two inches is two inches. And it's not like a pinky, but this works. Not this. This. Yeah, she's putting in a mouth. She's like it.

Okay. See, and watching you do that, first of all, okay. different coming from you. I should have did it. Cut that shit out. No, you're keeping that. I will be so pissed if you cut that. But yes, the point is... Like you're smoking a cigarette. I had at that time watched enough porn where it's sexy to see. There's a reason men and porn are big. It's not just because it's big. It's visually, if they want an angle, right, where you're opening to the camera. If your dick's not this big, you're not going to get in. There's a reason men and porn are so big. It is necessary for the visual to create the content we create.

Well, I've watched porn and I'm married to do a guy with a very substantial cock. And I'm like, I literally was a little like at a loss. Of course it's going to. I'm like, does this feel good? I was trying stuff. I was trying. Yeah. But we're not going to have sex.

Right. Because I'd feel even worse going, is it in? I just, that's not going to. So I, we didn't end up having a fully good time. It was good. It was fun, but we obviously didn't call them back. Right. Yeah, so what was his wife? What was she like after that experience?

We can we do it again? Yeah. She was, they were very attractive. They were very kind. In another life, we probably would have been good friends had we not crossed that bridge. You think they're going to watch this podcast? She's talking about me. I don't know. I don't know. I couldn't even. See, I told you. That's why they go back. It's because my dick is going.

I told I told this a bad idea Man she's talking shit on live With the heart's through it I'm not talking shit He can't help it Yeah So you and your husband

Y'all do that a lot Like it spices up your love life It's fun when it happens But it doesn't happen as often as people think Because first of all Again having a 21 year career We've developed a brand It's very busy

I have I earn money in many many ways and only fans alone I mean I log into Only Brandy at like 9 in the morning and I'm not logging off to 1 in the morning often and that's not I mean in between you're doing social media in between you're like eating and

drinking it's it is a full time job if you take it seriously and I do I love what I do it can be overwhelming but I do love what I do what was the question what you said? I was just I don't know I kind of fade away

I was day dreaming of a second y'all both had notes Both having a buying money. You wearing diapers? Anyway, it was, yeah. Oh, the question was, do you and your husband do that often? Okay, so he is the GC for all of our real estate endeavors, and he's on the phone. So, oh, my God, between ordering product and dealing with contractors, and he is my tech guy.

I'm tech, though. Like, if I have a problem, like, oh, my God, baby, what's wrong on my computer? Why can't I log in? he wears a lot of hats and I'm brandy love. Nobody else can fill in for me. So when we have time, we're together. So that part of our life has gotten a little bit more minimal simply because our time. We're still building our empire.

So when we have downtime or we're having sex, it's usually filmed. So when you have time that's not going to be filmed, it's so precious. Right. So I'm not going to invite somebody in. I haven't had my husband alone for a week. Come on in. Like, I look forward to those times, but at this point, my moments with him are way more precious. Right, right.

Right. And because of my injury and not having shot since July, I'm horny as fuck. I can't wait to get back into it. I love the professional scenes. You have an injury? Yeah. Back in July, when I was visiting Greece, I was looking for real estate. And I have some really good friends that I've been to Greece.

probably a dozen times. And we had a day off from looking at real estate. It happened to be July 5th. My friend ran at a yacht. We went out in Corfu and we're going to the different islands. It was absolutely exquisite. And one of the best days of mornings in my life. It was beautiful.

And the captain, it's just crazy story. The area where we stopped at this island in Paxos was full of yachts. I mean, it's like mega millionaires. It's like the stuff you see in, you know, Hollywood magazines where these people, band of salatans, they're all laying out drinking their martinis. I'm like, I've never seen more 100 foot plus yachts in my life. Right.

He wouldn't anchor. And like, that was weird to me because there's a lot of humans and there's a lot of very expensive boats. You should anchor. He dropped us off, like basically jump off, go swimming. I'll come back and get you. Well, it was a pretty long swim. We sat on the beach, Colorado.

breath, swam back and he's like, stay there. We could see him. Stay there. And I'm like, I grew up on a boat. My dad was a boater and I'm like, that doesn't stay right. If you're backing up to me, your propellers are on. The boat doesn't go in reverse with propulsion. And I got a weird feeling, but I'm not the captain. That's what we hired him. It's a big boat. He's got a long history, you know? And he got about 12 feet away and said, go ahead, come up. the first mate was on the back of the boat, and I was four or five feet away and handed my flippers, sucked my leg under. Oh, wow.

And he, the propellers were on because that's how he was holding steady. And I just remember, I didn't scream. I just, I remember hearing in my brain what sounded like a brick hitting a table. It was so loud. And I remember thinking, oh, please, please, please just be a nasty bruise. Something hit me hard, but please just tell me as a bruise. And I reached down in my, my quadricept was flopped out like a fillet. It was completely severed from my kneecap.

Oh, shit. Yeah. So, you know, he shut off the engines and they pulled me up into the boat. There was blood in the water. I could see, I could see the, the, my leg flopped. I was looking at my pitella. It was just bone. It was sticking out.

Oh, wow. And Corfu is about 50 minutes from the. mainland. Well, to get to hospital. So, yeah, so all the blankets and all the stuff. But because he turned off the propellers, we were hitting boats. So I'm just sitting there. I'm kind of out of it, sort of.

I'm in shock, but I'm not. And I'm hearing boom, boom, and these huge mega yachts are like, what the fuck you can see people like panicking. Right. But I, you know, it was, it was crazy. How the hell did he become a captain? 17 years or something experience. Yeah.

Yeah, he has insurance, thank God. But that's got to be a lawsuit that may or may not. I'm American. I'm not Greek. I don't know how this stuff works. I don't speak Greek. So it was very scary. Aside from being in a foreign country where I don't speak the language, I wasn't with my husband.

So it was very intensified. I was relying on my friend whose Greek, thank God, to really keep me alive. So, yeah, that was a wild experience. I was there for 11 days in the hospital. Wow. Yep. Yep. That's crazy.

It was. It still is crazy because I'm not. not fully, I've come a really long way for six months, but for two months I couldn't walk and I was ambulatory. I couldn't move my leg because my quad was reconnected in all four all four places. So it's been a journey and some days are better than others. A lot of work, a lot of work. PT sucks. Yeah. PT sucks, but when you want it, you can get it back. Yeah. You can get it back. And it's six months to be walking up and downstairs. I'm squats, TRX. I'm working with the trainer.

I'm at about 80% I have a ways to go, but I'm getting there. Oh, okay. I'm getting there. Wow. Yeah. That's crazy. That lawsuit is going to be huge. Probably not.

No? In our country, I could probably retire and my financial future would be taken care of, but it's not like that in Greece. All of my expenses were out of pocket, because of course I didn't have a rider. I didn't even know, let this be a lesson to all. Don't ever travel out of our country without an insurance, international insurance rider. Very cheap. $150 bucks covers you.

I didn't have it. I've been traveling for years out of our country, I had no idea. As if the $20,000 I pay in insurance wasn't enough. Right. It doesn't cover shit. Right. Nothing.

So every two days they were coming with their little credit card machine. I'm like, oh, my God. You know, pay off the credit card. Pay, yeah, it's been a setback. Yeah. But it's certainly not going to hold me back. I'm actually looking forward to the challenge of coming back better. Yeah.

like a challenge. Build porn back better. Yeah. I'm serious. For me, it's a big deal. I didn't plan on this. I felt very, I felt like something was taken away from me.

Yeah, definitely. And I was at a peak and I was loving life. And have it feel like in a second it could all be gone. Yeah. I could have lost my leg. I should have. I probably should have lost my life. Every doctor I saw was like, we don't see propeller accidents.

They're usually dead. And I'm like, thanks. Yeah, thanks for comfort. Yeah, but it really, really, really wasn't my time. It was, in a way, a spiritual experience. There's no reason I shouldn't have been sucked under. But I remember feeling the weight of big, strong hands, just something holding me. There is nothing there.

There is nothing there. It just wasn't my time. Right. Wow. Damn. On a happy note. Yeah, on a happy note. Start talking about porn again.

Yeah, so how do you jerk off right here with her left hand? Hey man, I don't feel so good, man. What's wrong with you? I'm embarrassed to tell you. I'm just going to tell you, I ain't took a shit in like two weeks, man. Ain't you taking your O.H? You're optimal human? I thought we ran out of it. Man, here, take this. Here's something right here. Take it.

Get it up in you. Drink that. Get that probiotics. That artichoke. And he is good. That apple powder. All those are sinks. Get your intestines right. Yeah, get them intestines right. Get it all up in you. Swallow it.

There you go. Why are you drinking it like a Kool-Aid or something? Well, you've made it with cold water. I'm over getting brain free. What's good with cold water? It's like a smoothie. Oh man, I feel something move. Oh man.

Go to optimal human.com forward slash heartswins and now try optimal human for free today. I thought when I first started watching porn, and then when I got with a woman, it wasn't enough stimulation. I was like, I've been watching so much porn. You wanted the visual plus the actual penetration. And then the women you're with, they don't do the things you see the women doing on.

Yeah, every girlfriend and wife, I know it's not going to be a popular statement, but if every girlfriend and wife was a porn star in the bedroom, her man would be very satisfied. Yeah. You know, and there are times like every night in my household, the loves aren't swinging from chandeliers. I mean, we too can be quite romantic.

There are times he's like, oh, I'll take that shit. I feel in the background, I know what's coming, and I get excited. And then there's other times where there's candles lit. We're going to take our time. We're going to enjoy a glass of wine. Like, let's explore each other.

Even after 30 years, you can learn stuff about your mate. That's fun. That's enjoying your sexuality. After 21 years of being an adult and watching, I can goon like the rest of them, I've never experienced needing more. Right. So I hear you.

I've heard that before, but I still like the same shit. I get turned on by the same things. I don't need. I think I had my first gangbang a year ago. I'd never done it. 21 years in the industry, I'm like, it was offered, and I went, yeah, let's try that. I was very nervous. That's a whole lot of testosterone.

That's a lot of feet of dick. And I was a little intimidated. I'm not going to lie. How many guys was it? It was, it's going to sound funny because I'm going to say, only four. It was four, but for me, that's like three more than usual. Great seeing, great group of guys. And would I do it again?

Yeah, I probably would. But I don't need six or eight or ten. I don't. I'm not saying I judge those that do. I get it. Their sexuality is either one that wants to keep pushing or they're looking for something. I'm not looking for something. I'm just enjoying it.

This lady. This is woman. She did a hunted man. Oh, yeah, all that, all that marketing stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's her name, Brandon? Brilliant marketing. It's, um, Lily Phillips.

Yeah, Lily Phillips. Yeah, Lily Phillips. She did. She wanted cried after? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, brilliant marketing is what I have to say to that. Good for her. You don't think that.

Right. Let me explain something to you. Honestly, I'm not going to take anything away from her, but maybe I will. Um, it was a genius machine behind that happening. Right. I can tell you it takes weeks to get one guy to show up on set and have proper paperwork tested and ready to go. You're going to tell me that sporadically

a hundred guys showed up to a location tested, verified, 2257's done? Bullshit. Impossible. I can't get three people to show up on the same day, let alone within the same hour. Not, not. And I'm, again, brilliant. But y'all didn't happen like that.

This was not spontaneous. This was like, oh, I'm going to do this thing. It's planned for months. Right. Yeah. It took a team to get that done. And I clap. Good job.

The marketing. Everyone knows who she is. That's the world we live in, this instant gratification. You know, you have porn stars. It's sex work. She's a sex worker. Porn stars have worked decades, years to create a brand and do what they do and spend the eight hours on set and what have you.

And a TikToker or Instagram person or wherever she came from, hit stardom overnight pulling a tactic brilliant and you know she made her money she probably made more in a week than i do in a year i'm not mad i'm a little reclamped like the fuck yeah what what nobody knew you yesterday and now so again it's brilliant marketing and we live in a world where that's actually more interesting guys and girls seem to be more interested in that than the adult entertainer who's worked to make a career. Yeah. A lot of people like in the watching the other do a...

Like she's about to do a thousand guys. Shut up. She's going to do it again, but now it's going to be a thousand. That's a bit extreme, don't you think? I don't know why you would do that. The money must be really good. I would suspect. But she also said in a documentary that she just loves sex that much.

Then why was she crying after? Yeah. More marketing, huh? Maybe she loves pain. I don't think that's it I don't think that's it Yeah that's why I answered that question Yeah you ever think is

You know for some people What they do is just too much sex Like when I see that A thousand guys Yeah that's that's reckless in my book I wouldn't do it Yeah But that's me and I with all we've been talking about

Am I going to judge her for doing it? No Can't be like these Christians I don't But I also don't get it Like that's so far out of like I don't, and she's not the first. There were women back in the 80s. I can't think of Houston, didn't Houston do like, it was a large number.

And at the time, everyone was like, oh, my God. But because we didn't have social media, she didn't get the play. And because we didn't have social media and that those personalities aren't so glorified to make exceptional money overnight, it seems like. I'm like, gosh, she already did it. If I was her, I'd be thinking, damn, I got to pay what? because she's making probably a hundred times. Yeah. I wonder how much money she made doing it.

It's a different world. It's got to be substantial. There was one girl. Substantial. What do you mean by a substantial? It's subjective. I don't know. Ten bucks is a lot to some people or a million's a lot to another.

I forget the girl's name, but she said she made $41 million on Only Fanes one year. I forget her name. It's a white girl. Was it a text me outside girl? No. I remember that. I remember that.

She was the red hair in the room. Look it up, Joe. The girl, she claimed she made $41 or $44 million on the only fans. I can claim I make that. And if you don't have my tax records, who is to challenge me? Right, right. She might just be saying, for people. That's just more marketing, right?

Well, if I were to say to you, I made $100 million this year on my only fans, are you not going to go log in and see why? I would. It's human nature. It's brilliant marketing. Right. So I... Well, I never look at it that way.

You just trying to push people to your only fan. Oh, man, you made 40. I wonder what she is. She must be doing something crazy. Right. Yeah. So you're going to go look. Yeah.

Damn. Sophia Rain. Well, who knows? Yes, sir. You know. She came across with TikTok. I was just scrolling. She's very cute.

But at the same time, or I should say and at the same time, that could be AI. Yeah. I've seen images of myself and I have an AI. Brandy love AI. That is me. I'm involved. That's my domain. I'm working with Ava AI.

That's a company. But there have been photos I put out saying, meet my AI and people go, girl, you look hot. I'm like, Jeff, my me. I just said it's my AI and they are good. They're really good. I mean, she's hotter than I am.

She's got flawless skin. She's got no wrinkles. You know, blah, blah. My ass is a little bigger, you know? Right. It's my AI. I'm going to go for it. And I'm like, no.

I don't look good. My AI looks good. And there's AI videos out there that it'll catch me and I'm watching them. I'm like, shit, it's fake. Yeah. But it caught me. It caught me. So we're living in very weird times.

Very weird times. Yeah, AI is pretty scary. It's going to take a lot of people's job. Maybe. A lot of people's jobs. But you know, my AI, it's very cool. It's very fun. But it has not affected my only fans at all.

because there is no way to mimic a real human. Right. I don't care how good it is. Not yet anyway. Not yet. Yeah. That's fair. Not yet.

What was it like working during COVID when that broke out on porn sets? Well, porn sets were shut. We weren't shooting or weren't supposed to be shooting. It was shut down, which is why I started Miami fans. Right? So in 2019, March of 2019, I remember that's when it all started. airport shutting down New York's blah blah blah like the end of times is coming and that's when a friend said why aren't you on only fans jump on there get your domain blah blah blah blah and I'm like again and then I kind

of looked around emails from my agents were shut down it could be weeks they're saying weeks and for us in weeks we're like oh no weeks can't go weeks right yeah yeah and and definitely I can't I enjoy working so I'm like okay let me log into this thing and then And how was COVID full of sex? I was shooting content every day. It was amazing. And that's not, I got COVID. It was awful.

My husband, I were horribly sick. But during. Yeah, you remember when a concern? So it's just a bad flu season. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got that cold outside. That was not the flu. Yeah.

That was not. It was the most unnatural feeling and illness I've ever had in my entire life. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, for other outside of that, we had a cold. I mean, it sounds awful, but it's the truth. COVID was amazing. Right.

For our industry, if you were a hustler and you got up and went and did the things and made a business for yourself, it was life-changing. Everything you're doing, owner-fans, all that belongs to you. You don't need an agent for that or anything. No, that's mine. Yeah, everything is your way. That's what you call liberation. No middle man. Yeah.

That's what I like about YouTube, because I worked in corporate America for so long, and it sucked. It's hard. It feels amazing when you work for yourself. Obviously, you guys have the get up and go. You know if you don't work, you don't eat, and you're inspired by it. You do the work. When you are that, you can be an amazingly successful entrepreneur. Right.

Yeah. A lot of people are scared. Like, that's what I was scared up when we first became self-employed. Like, you're not relying on anybody else. It is a little scary. It's all on you. Yep. There's no money in the bank is your fault.

Yeah. You have nobody to blame. Yeah. Nobody's going to just send you a check. Right. That's exactly right. But it's been very liberating for us as well. And obviously very worth it.

Yeah. And I don't think I could ever work for anybody now. I could neither. Snowback could clock in or do any of that stuff anymore. We've owned our own business since 2004 and only increased our businesses. We have multiple businesses now. But yeah, same thing, man. I'd rather work.

Sometimes you're like, why do you guys work so hard? You guys never take a break? I'm like, I know. Exactly. It's great. Yeah. The day will come where we sit back and we're like, yes. I think. I say that, but I'll never retire.

Yeah, never? Maybe from adult at some point, but I'll never stop working. Yeah, that's what I mean. That's what I mean. Yeah. She's not going to be 80 years old. Like, she's going to get old. What are you for? I can forever stay this age. My AI can be whatever age you want. But there will come a point where just like every good quarterback knows when to walk off the field or tries. Some of them come back more than once, but they try.

I think adults know different. It's entertainment. At some point, you got a know one to hang up the stripper shoes. Yeah, I do something, though. So as you quit working, you'll die. Yeah. We had our ex-porn star. She was a born-again Christian. Alura.

Yeah, Lurna. I'm aware. Yeah. She said, looking back on it, she says a lot of things that she's subjected to or things she was witnessed to, a lot of it was considered to be now because she's a born-again Christian, satanic. Do you have that same thing? I've never seen that.

But she was independent. She's not with these like, yeah, like San Fernando Valley people that was calling us. What? But we went there. That's where you put your application. My page was going off like every. Sherman Oaks, San Fernando Valley. So she's probably talking about that.

And again, everybody does have a unique story. And I'm sure hers are very real for her. It happened. And again, I don't know her personally. very well spoken, very well educated clearly, and I think her path is beautiful. Just like I would say monogamy is beautiful. She, it became a sin for her, right? Whatever happened, I watched your show and I was really impressed.

I'm so happy for her. And I didn't know these things happened to her. But clearly one day she woke up and she said, not for me anymore. Something happened, something clicked, and it became a sin for her, so therefore she didn't do it anymore. I applaud that. That's not my path. You still having a good time. Well, not I am having a good time.

I'm blessed. So what happens in my sex life is between me and the man above and my husband. That's it. And if that continues to be solid, I sleep well at night and my businesses continue to be blessed. And I feel very much that I'm right where I need to be. I will stay there. When that changes, if that changes, I'll go a different direction. But one thing I won't do, and it's based upon my personal experiences, I would never poo-poo the adult industry.

They gave me a life. It made my career, and I absolutely love everything about being Brandy Love. That's my path. Some of the stories I've heard, like, yeah, that would suck. I would have a problem with that. I don't know whether it's because of who my agents were. I don't know if it's because of my very obvious Second Amendment vocation. I don't get fucked with.

I mean, I do videos on X all the time with my firearm display, us at the range. I mean, if you want to mess with us, you can get balls. Go ahead. I've told people, you're going to come get me? You're going to come slip my throat? Come on. Here's an address. Do I want that?

No. I'm not, I'm not an aggressive person. I'm not a violent person, but I will hold steady. Right. How did you come with your stage name, Brandy Love? Funny story. brainstorming. It was me and about four other people, me and Chris and a few other people, and we were trying to come up with names, and we put first names and last names and started

just saying them out loud. Oh, really? Yeah. And then, of course, searching the domain, is it taken? And as soon as we said Brandy Love, everyone kind of put the pen down and went, you're a Brandy. It's got a nice ring to it. Yeah, it was, you can spell it basically two ways. I mean, love is love. You can spell it other ways, but love is love. Brandy's with a wire and I. So we bought both both domains and looking at it I like the eye I just like the eye it looked good visually so that was that's my name yeah there's no like tattoo story it was just like it made sense it was cute people say yeah you look like a brandy and I'm like all right let's go I wonder what stage name oh come on I want that what's your stage name is your stage name isn't there a thing that says like the last thing

you ate and the color your shirt is your stage name oh really let's go with that so what's the Last thing you ate, you're wearing black, so come on, hello. Last thing they're eating. That's too funny. Well, I ate McDonald's. No, no, no. Wait, what food, though? Was it? A biscuit with sausage and egg.

Biscuit black is your porn name. Oh, my God. No, we can do better. We can do better. Twin sausages. That's stupid. Yeah, they're stupid. That's stupid.

The twin sausages. Oh, my God. You have to be like we're the horse twins now. That's it. Hodge twins. Did it ever, ever, ever bother you guys growing up being so identical? Like, was there ever that thing? No, you guys seem inseparable.

Yeah, we're always so. We're each other's best friends. Yeah, you're so lucky. Yeah. I think that's amazing. Yeah, we just go in Hodge twins. Hors twins one. Hars twins?

Thing one and thing two. Hey, do you ever run into any crummy home? Pulling executives when you first started out? Executive, you know, it's rare for talent to meet executives. It's very rare. Like, director is usually as far as it goes, as far as people that we get to meet. I'm currently under contract with Vixen Media Group, and I've had the pleasure of getting to know the ownership really well.

I'm a huge fan not only of their media group, but of the people who run the company. So that's probably as far as executive level. and they're amazing, amazing human beings. The company that I lost my contract to due to cancel culture, not so much. Not so much. But again, when that happened, I was shocked and it sucked and I was scared,

and then it turned out to be the greatest thing that ever happened to me. We would have not been a good fit. I'll leave it at that. And that's so weird somebody, you're getting canceled over your right to protect yourself. Correct. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, that just tells you the basis of that company. They're not patriotic. Yeah. That is so weird. Yeah. I love the porn executives, Jewish. Not that I'm aware of. I heard a thing on that.

I heard a thing on that. You were asking about that. Like Hollywood, we all know that a lot of the top executives are. Everybody has their skill set. Everybody has their talents. Who knows why different groups are better at certain things than others? Well, they say Jews got high keys. They don't make money, so.

smart hey they're smart but I don't I don't I'm not aware of a strong a Jewish stronghold within that they're changing to instead of wine stain it'd be just be Willie Willie Wilson they're so stupid I don't want nobody know I'm Jewish Mark Cuban did that didn't he what yeah not he's Jewish but who cares a lot of people care people people I Again, that goes to a little bit of my naivity. I just don't care. What I see right here is what I'm dealing with.

What does any of that have to do with who you are? Right. Unless it does, then that's a different story. But no, I'm not aware of any. Yeah. And if there are, I don't know them. I heard somebody say Jews created porn to destroy Christians. Oh, not true, that is.

That sounds... There's a quote. What? Al Goldstein. He sounds Jewish. Sounds Antisemitic too Oh you did not turn off

You turn your phone Oh, who you're doing man The wife Oh that's allowed Take a call She's probably thinking this session It's going too good I bet your wives are cool as shit

They've got to be They can be They have the moments When they're cool Quote's by Al Goldstein The only reason that Jews are in pornography

is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks and believe in authoritarianism. What? That's absurd. Yeah. That's anti-Semitic. That's absurd. We'll leave it that.

I agree with you. That's just stupid. He doesn't like the Jews. He hates himself. Yeah. That's weird. That's weird. So what's your end game?

I'm going to keep on, keep it on. The end game is to live the most incredible life hand in hand with my husband. Yeah. That's it. The first half of our marriage, we have, we have strived. We're both overachievers. We're entrepreneurs.

We love what we do. And it's just him and I, you know, there's not tech people and editing people. We do it all. So it's a lot. But I would love to get to that place where we could kind of sit back and enjoy what we've done. Right. So it'll be healthy enough to enjoy one another. Right, right.

And just be grateful. Yeah, we all have pretty much the same. age. I'm a year older. 73. Yeah, I'm a year older. So I'm very excited for the Trump presidency. Counting down the days, man, waiting.

I hope nothing crazy happens. Yeah, I think we got a lot of momentum. I mean, that last election spoke volumes. I think Americans are tired. They're tired of the bullshit. Everyone wants to live a safer, better life, I would think. Those who understand what that means, I mean, we've lost some. We've lost some.

We've lost a lot of people that don't know what that means. They're gone. I don't know if we can help them. I'm hopeful. Maybe a year of Trump's presidency, if he sticks to Agenda 47, we're all good. All good. And at some point, you can't deny your life is better. You can still hate Orange Man for whatever reason, but if he protects us and makes our country better and your life better, shut up.

Right. Just shut up. Yeah. You know? So I'm really hopeful, like you guys, that we can get things back to good. Yeah. I don't know how anybody just passed a late. winning and voted for Kamala.

I'm like, how can you be this? Brainwashing. Yeah. Brainwashing. I do honestly believe it's lack of information. I mean, we're in information. Well, there's a lack of information. It's a lack of brain sales, too.

And it's a lack of not wanting to hear the truth. That's a bad combination. That's a bad, and propaganda. If you only watch a specific channel and you only follow certain people and you're in that echo chamber of people just repeating over and over, over every day, you're You see what's happened. They start to believe it. It doesn't matter the facts that you say.

They go, uh-uh. What do you mean? Uh-uh. No, it's right there. Like, it's factual and they don't want the facts. Well, it can't help you. Yeah. It's sad.

And again, I do hope that the proof is in the put in when life starts to get better. And the tribalism stops and people quit putting people into their own little groups. And the hate stops, we can get back to being American again. I don't think we're going to ever get that because the mainstream media, MSNBC, CNN. I think they're going down. They're going down, but they're not going to stop what they're doing. They're losing a lot. They're ready to suck.

I think Americans are getting sick of hating on their Americans, right? Like, we're all, we're diverse but beautiful. Leave it that way. We don't need to separate based on anything. Right. That's why this country is so amazing. It is diverse. And any time that you're going to try to control or govern a diverse country on an extreme,

it ends in authoritarianism, and we're done. All of us are done. Like it's not good for anybody. Right. Do you see yourself after you're done with the film industry being more of a conservative influencer online? I don't know. Politics suck. Like what you guys are doing is fun.

You're just being you and you're not political pundits and that people expect numbers and percentages. I wouldn't, to me, when it comes to politics and I've said this before, in politics, you get fucked and it doesn't. feel good. What I do, you get fucked and you walk away smiling. I want nothing to do with politics. I've seen the ugly side. I've done some mainstream podcasts. I've talked to different people within legislation to try

to do some different things and you're promised all this. Da-da-da-da-da. Oh, they'll take you seriously. This is a good point. That's a good point. Bullshit. It was for the salacious title. Right. So, like, yeah, no, I don't trust any of you. You all are full of shit

when it comes to politics. And they have their reasons. and I don't really want to know any more in that. Good point. Good point. You have anything you want to plug? Onlybrandy.com. Brandy. That's my only fans.

What's an I? Brandy, V-R-A-N-D. I love. Yes, Brandy love. It's only brandy. Only brandy.com is my only fans. I'm there all the time. I love it.

I have a blast. My Twitter, my ex, Brandy underscore love. And Meetbrandy. com is my other VIP, which is a ton of, fun and I do a lot of interesting things on there that I can't do on Only Brandy. It's like custom stuff, huh?

Yeah, custom stuff and outdoor stuff and yeah. Only fans is very strict. Oh, really? Yeah. I would say overly because like I live on one of my properties is 80 acres. Like there's nothing but deer. And they'll flag my stuff and say you're outside. I'm like, well, no shit.

But I'm on 80 acres. There's no potential unless somebody's flying over with the drone and filming me. Right. So I get it, but it's a no. Whereas meat brandy is like, I can do whatever I want. Do whatever she won't. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

I mean, a lot of people got this bad depiction of what adult films. They do. They do what they see on comedy and make assumptions about people they never met. Assumptions are bad for people. We shouldn't do that to each other. Right, right. Very classy lady. Thank you.

Very class. I appreciate y'all so much. You're going to check him for that kind. I can already see the comments Yeah, the Chris is going to crucify me He's going to crucify your ass You're going to be up on the cross like this Shit

You go We both been to get They're going to talk shit to me Because I'm making fun of it Yeah, yeah Well, some people don't have a sense of humor They know I'm a comedian I'm going to make jokes

You know I understand your guys's background And y'all says some crazy shit That I didn't like No, just Something about you had banyes on your mouth I'm not even going to repeat what you said. But I literally was

eating dinner and I spit my food out. I couldn't believe you said it, but it was so funny. That's what you're supposed to do is make people and that's the, in a way I appreciate you having me on because some people will hate me because they've already decided. They don't actually hate me most likely. They hate what I do.

And that's a whole separate issue. A lot of concerns they hate you, that's a whole separate issue. There's no different than the liberal that hates Trump. The only reason why you hate Trump is because you've been told to hate it. Yeah. They're one and the same. Yeah, and if you don't like me because you don't like me, that's fine.

No one's going to always like you. But if you choose to literally be nasty because of a profession that's legal and we pay our taxes on, that's kind of weird to me. That's a very, very short-sighted individual. Well, I think women are going to automatically hate you because they have this perception of what men want and desire. and they'll feel like insecure. So just about who you are.

All they need to elevate themselves. Right. Do what you need to do to be confident enough to know that you're the sexiest motherfucker that's ever walked in front of your husband. Don't hate on me because I found mine. Go get yours. Watch those videos.

Do better. Do better. Be better. Be harder. Right. It's not, women are naturally antagonists. against each other. We're very hateful. And it probably is a, it's just from birth. You know, it's very competitive and I just, it's so stupid. It's so stupid. Let me ask you this. Do you think

it would be a good thing to have a woman president? No. Nope. And that's not going to be very popular. But I very, I'm, it's people again are going to have problem with it, but I really don't care. I live a very traditionally biblical marriage. My husband's ahead of the household. I am by choice and desire submissive to him and only him. I don't believe women should have leadership roles in that capacity. That's not what we are designed to do.

Could one happen? Is one capable? Yeah, I'm sure of it. But just being asked the question, I'm like, I'm probably not. If there's a woman that could do the job, I guarantee you could have thousands of men that can do that same job. Yeah. We're just designed for different things.

Yeah. At the end of the day, equal but different. And when women embrace what we're made to do and where we shine and men take their role seriously and shine where they're supposed to shine, things will get better, exponentially better. Yes, it would. Conservatives are going to love that.

Until I find out who I am. Which is so sad, but so true. No, but this podcast is great because you're going to, you send a lot of things they agree with. They just don't necessarily agree what you do, but they see the human size. of you now. Yeah.

Yeah. And if they join Onlybrandy.com, we can talk more about it. Hey, you should throw a sale. I would give them all the time in the world.

Hey, maybe you should do a promotion and throw a sale. Give them 20% off the first month. Just type in Make America Grady. Yeah, every July, military, they don't pay for anything. I love our military and thank you guys

for your service. But I always, any chance I have to be patriotic, even on my porn page. Yeah, I do it. Yeah. Yeah, I get to be who I am partially because of the fighting that our military have done. We're a free country, at least always have been until recently. Until recently, yeah.

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