Hodgetwins Podcast - MILLIONS of Lives Could Have Been Saved... | Twins Pod - Episode 68 - Dr. Mary Talley Bowden

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

Dr. Mary Talley Bowden was one of the first Doctors to speak out against the pandemic propaganda. She has treated Thousands of patients with practical therapeutics and has been a massive voice against shot mandates. We get her expert insight about the pandemic aftermath, the Ozempic trend & MAHA.Join Dr. Bowden's cause: https://www.americansforhealthfreedom.org/Become a Member and Give Us Some DAMN GOOD Support :https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdg/joinGet your Twins merch and have a chance to win our RAM Diesel SuperTruck & 10K in cash - https://officialhodgetwins.com/Get Optimal Human, your all in one daily nutritional supplement - https://optimalhuman.com/Want to be a guest on the Twins Pod? Contact us at [e-mail] Free Twins Pod Content - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_iNb2RYwHUisypEjkrbZ3nFoBK8k60COFollow Twins Pod Everywhere -X - https://twitter.com/TheTwinsPodInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/thetwinspod/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/twinspodTikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@twinspodYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdgRumble - https://rumble.com/c/TwinsPodSpotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/79BWPxHPWnijyl4lf8vWVu?si=03960b3a8b6b4f74Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/twins-pod/id173123281002:21 - She Was One of the First Doctors to Go Against the Covid Dogma06:35 - Why Did They Block Alternative Treatments?11:25 - "Safe & Effective"17:09 - Vaccine Horror Stories22:03 - What Is MRNA?24:42 - How Long Does it Take To Make A Vaccine?27:26 - Twins Got Covid At The Same Time31:26 - Fauci36:36 - They Are Still Coming After Her...43:29 - Medical System Lost Trust47:28 - Why Did Bill Gates Say This...50:54 - Methylene Blue55:45 - What Is MAHA Even Doing?1:00:26 - New Pandemic & Ozempic

We got Dr. Mary Talley Bowden in the house. Yeah. I'll say that right. You got it right, yes. You were one of the first doctors to push back against the dogma, everybody else was pushing, about how to treat COVID. Yeah, I never imagined that. I see a lot of respiratory tract infections,

and when people came to see me, I treated them. I did what I thought I was supposed to do, and then I started using monoclonal antibodies. And those worked wonderfully. I could get as many doses as I wanted, and then the government took over distribution of monoclonal antibodies. So they became harder and harder to get. And then they just completely shut them down.

And this was all trying to get everybody to get the shot. They were very upset that people weren't getting these shots. They attacked ivermectin. The FDA went after ivermectin. Then they put out that horse tweet. That's the same time they took Joe Rogan and made him look like he was lime green. And I just started speaking out mostly about mandates. I mean, that's what got me in trouble.

I would think like the medical profession would be not as corrupt as it sounds it is. And I didn't realize it either. I assumed the FDA was ethical and the government was ethical. And the pandemic really exposed all that. You know, I was seeing all these COVID patients. I was seeing that these shots weren't working. The vaccinated outnumbered the unvaccinated and that they were just as sick, if not sicker. And so I had a handful of people come to me who just would have normally gone to hospital.

And we'd give them high-dose ivermectin. high-dose IV steroids, antibiotics, high-dose vitamin C. How many of those patients that died do you think that treatment would have prevented them from dying? We estimate about 80, 85% of people could have been saved. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, welcome to episode 68. We got Dr. Mary Talley Bowden in the house.

Yeah. I'll say that right. You got it right, yes. So a lot of people mispronounce your name sometimes? Oh, yeah, all the time. Yeah. For the love of God, I don't know why people take hodge and they say Haji. Oh, that's odd.

No, I've never heard. That seems. Yeah. I'd be like, what did she call me? Hodgie twins? I was overseas, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But so you were one of the first doctors to push it back against the dogma.

Everybody else was pushing about how to treat COVID. What was that like? That was a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I never imagined that. I have a solo practice, very quiet in Houston. And I basically, I'm ear, nose and throat.

And so I see a lot of respiratory tract infections. And when people came to see me, I treated them. I did what I thought I was supposed to do. And at first I started with hydroxychloroquine, but then Trump said it was the best thing ever. Well, that's a kiss of death right now. Exactly. A week later, I kid you not, Texas State Board of Pharmacy shut us down. We were not allowed to prescribe hydroxychloroquine or azithromycin. We couldn't even prescribe a Z-PAC for COVID.

Simply because Trump? Because of, well, I mean, they didn't admit that, but the timing was pretty right. So I kind of put that on the back burner, and then I started using monoclonal antibodies. And those worked wonderfully. I could get as many doses as I wanted. I would just contact the manufacturer, and they showed up. at my office the next day, and things were really good. And then the government took over distribution of monoclonal antibodies.

So they became harder and harder to get. And then they just completely shut them down. And this was all trying to get everybody to get the shot. Because you look at the timing of everything, as soon as Biden mandated the shots, they shut down monoclone antibodies completely. And then I started using ivermectin, and that's when things got difficult. can't you get the, why can you take the antibodies and get the vaccine? Why is it just got to be the vaccine? Well, there's, you know, first, if you're going to do an emergency use authorization,

you can't have something that works better. Well, competitive. Right. And then I just think it was strategic, right? People were not getting the COVID shots because they had a treatment option, right? If you can get treated, and monoclonal antibodies were a little bit new, but they were safe. I will say that. Like, I didn't have any issues with them in terms of, like, the COVID shots. shots. So, and there was also a rule that if you got monoclonal antibodies, you had to wait three months to get the shot. So that was, people were using that as an excuse, like a stall tactic. So, you know, they couldn't have that. They were very upset that people weren't getting these shots. And that's where, you know, they attacked Ivermectin. The FDA went after Ivermectin.

And so in March of 2021, they issued a statement on their website saying, you know, doctors, you can't use iburemectin to treat COVID. And they told people not to do it. And that wasn't working. So then they put out that horse tweet. Horsi-warmermer. Yes. At the same time, they took Joe Rogan and made him look like he was lime green. It was late August, early September.

And the horse tweet went viral. And, I mean, it had dire consequences. It was all over late night talk shows. It was everywhere. People's making fun of Republicans for taking horse deworm. Exactly. Well, and that's still going on. Literally, last week, Vanity Fair ran an article on Maha and Callie Means.

Right. Well, and they quoted me. And in the quote, they added prescribed horse dewormer for, I mean, this is Friday. I couldn't believe it. I read some articles in Vanity Fair. Those people have absolutely no credibility. No, well, I made the mistake of thinking I could trust him. Right.

So, anyway, so we actually sued the FDA over that tweet and we won, which was nice, but... Got paid, huh? Well, no, we didn't get any money. Oh, man. Sorry. You get your credibility back. Yeah, yeah. Got to get paid.

Unfortunately, really didn't do much, right? Right, right. I mean, we need the FDA to come out and make a statement saying, you know, this is actually safe for humans, right? Because everybody still thinks of it as horsemen. Do you think they're ever going to do that? Well, I'm going to keep pushing on it, but I don't, yeah, it's not a hard thing for them to do. And it's scientifically valid. Let me ask this.

By them blocking all these other treatments, does it keep the rich people from getting rich from the vaccine? Is that why they were, it was money motivated? Yeah, I mean, they were, they were expecting everybody to rush out and get it. And so in April of 2021, this is. four months after the shots came out, Houston Methodist Hospital became the first hospital in the country to mandate the shots. And this was five months before Biden. And that's how I kind of got tangled up in this mess because I had privileges there. And I just started speaking out mostly about mandates. I mean, that's what got me in trouble.

I thought there was a conservative red state. Oh, yeah, no, I know. So I think I have a theory that health care is turning Texas blue because of, and I think, and I think, mandates started in Texas quite purposefully. I think it was very deliberate. I feel like they knew that if they could get away the mandates in Texas, they could get away with them anywhere. Looks like it's going to backfire on them, I would think. I don't know.

You know, there were a couple, there was a bill in Texas to ban MRNA. There was a bill in Texas to make Ivermectin over the counter. Neither one of them got near, you know, they didn't even get passed. Democrats voted against him, right? Well, yeah, but the Republicans, the Republicans in Texas. They vote against it, too? Yeah, they, well, they didn't even come up for a vote. They didn't even get scheduled on the calendar for a hearing.

So it's frustrating. And, you know, Texas, like, when Houston, where I am, we have the largest medical center in the world. So it brings in people from all over and it dilutes our conservative values. And I think it's an infiltration of our system. And our economy in Texas is really dominated by health care. People think oil and gas, but it's actually health care. Oligarchs in health care. Yeah.

I didn't realize, like, I would think, like, the medical profession would be not as corrupt as it sounds it is. Well, yeah, everybody, we are put on this higher pedestal, right? Right, right. But I think the pandemic exposed that, and I didn't realize it either. I mean, I just assumed FDA was ethical. and the government was ethical and the pandemic really exposed all that. You know, you mentioned earlier that you have your own practice. You're independent.

What's the major differences between a independent office and someone who's like, you have to answer to pharmaceutical companies or other doctors or? Yeah, I mean, I call myself third party free. So I don't contract with hospitals, the government or insurance companies. And so the only people I work for are my patients. and that's an unusual way. That's the way it should be, right? Yeah, I mean, granted, I don't take insurance, so that's the downside, but everything, the prices are very transparent,

and you can get reimbursed by your insurance company. But there's a whole model out there called direct primary and direct specialty care medicine, where it's just, you know, you just pay your doctor directly. And for direct primary care, I'm a specialist, but primary care doctors, it's comparable. to joining a gym in terms of what you pay. So you pay like a monthly fee. And then you get much more time with your doctor and much more access. And the doctor limits how many patients they take in.

So they have more time. And there's less red tape that they have to deal with. So it's just a more efficient way. And you don't have to deal with the bureaucracy. You can actually treat your patients how you see fit. These other places they can't. Right. And that served me well.

Yeah. So who came and said you can't? used avarmectum hydrochloroquine and all these other drugs? No one directly said that. But when I started, so basically, you know, I was seeing all these COVID patients. I was seeing that these shots weren't working. First, I just saw the breakthrough cases where, you know. That's like, yeah, they call them breakthrough.

Dale was just as isolated. Yeah. So, and I started tracking them. So what I found was the vaccinated outnumbered the unvaccinated. and that they were just as sick, if not sicker. And so I actually, I went to Methodist first. I didn't just go out on social media. I said, hey, are you seeing what I'm seeing?

What's going on? I thought, what's going? Because they were saying, if you take the shot, you won't get sick. And if you do get sick, you won't get as sick as other people going to the hospital. We were guaranteed, right? And it won't spread. Right. Yeah.

Right. And so I asked them, what's going on? And they just gaslit me. They said, well, we think it lowers the severity. Right. you won't die right then uh but you know that's never been shown there's no studies showing that actually um how how effective do you think that vaccine was yeah i think from there's possibly maybe a little bit of keeping some people out of the hospital early on when it

when it was really bad maybe but not worth all the complications that we've seen especially when we had great early treatment even if you didn't like ivermectin we had monoclonal antibodies which were not controversial. Right. So your treatments were more, in your eyes, were more effective

than the shot? Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, I kept seeing people getting sick who had gotten a shot. Right. And everybody that I treated early,

and it was very important to treat early. So within that first week, everybody stayed out of the hospital and survived. And even I had patients come in in the second week. And second week is when

everything really hit the fan because you'd have this massive inflammatory response. And so, you know, that's when people really got sick and started going to the hospital. It's like that third week, right? Yeah, second and third week. You just, they call it the cytokine storm. And, but I figured out how to manage that.

So I had some really sick, sick people who would not go to the hospital, who normally I would have just called the ambulance. Right. You need to go to the hospital. They refused. Yeah, a lot of people didn't want to go because they was getting quarantine from their loved ones. They don't want to be in the hospital. They were isolated and dying alone, which is very tragic.

That's horrible. Tragic. And had, you know, basically stripped of their rights, not given informed consent, not allowed to try Ibermectin. So I got in trouble over that because I had this patient in the hospital. Somebody, I didn't know previously, but the wife was trying to get her husband to Ibermectin, and he was dying. He'd been on a ventilator for a month.

And the hospital said we're thinking hospice at this point. When you say ventilate, how invasive is that? What is exactly? You don't want to be on a ventilator. It's pretty bad. I mean, you put this plastic tube all the way down here. Oh, I saw that on the soprano's. I'm going to the soprano head on the road.

Sure, it's just like that. Yeah. No, it's not good. I mean, now, granted, if you're going to die, it's not, you'd probably want to try it. But what we found, what I found. So prior the pandemic, if somebody, somebody's oxygen level dipped below a certain level, usually 90%, then you would start worrying.

If you couldn't maintain above 90 on oxygen, then you ventilate them. But what I found is I'd have these patients coming in with super low oxygen levels and the low 80s, even some lower than that. Oh, wow. And we were able to keep them alive without putting them on a ventilator, which was unusual. So almost like it's kind of productive because your body becomes dependent on it. Right. And I mean, yeah, sometimes it's necessary.

I'm not telling Barry, always refuse a ventilator. But it was interesting because COVID, you know, they called it happy hypoxia. Like you were able to tolerate these much lower oxygen saturations than what we would typically expect in a, you know, normal situation. Right. And you got the patient to turn around without the ventilator? Right, right. I had a handful of people come to me who just would have normally gone the hospital. and we would just, we'd bring him in every day and throw the kitchen sink up them.

And we'd give them high-dose ivermectin. I'd give them high-dose IV steroids. I'd give them antibiotics, high-dose vitamin C. We'd send them home on breathing treatments and oxygen. And it'd come back every day. How many people died from COVID here in America? Well, they say 1.2 million. But, you know, a lot of people were attributed as a COVID death.

because it paid. And so we don't know, you know. Right. So how many of those patients that died do you think that treatment would have prevented them from dying? We estimate about 80, 85% of people could have been saved. Wow. Yeah. I mean, that's hundreds of thousands of people.

Oh, yeah. Probably 800, 900,000 people could have been saved. But they didn't want them saved. They wanted to make the money from the vaccine. And for, and these people were paying, the hospitals were being paid for each. person that was in the hospital that died from COVID. They was getting paid for that. They were getting extra money to put them on a ventilator, to give them remdesivir,

to have them die. So why the, that is nuts. Why are the hospitals being incentivizing this way that keeps them from being objective? Well, you know, the hospitals are like, this is a big burden on us. We need, we need more money. We need, you know, this is, this is hard on us. So that was the rationale initially.

But I don't think you should be incentivizing people. It's a perverse incentive. So we got Fortune 500 companies dictating our health in hospitals, care, over what a doctor would prescribe, like if they were independent. Yeah. I mean, I have a friend, Dr. Molly James, who worked in the ICU. And they were very limited. You know, if she wanted to prescribe ivermectin, she just flat out couldn't. I mean, it was just really handcuffed doctors.

Yeah, they were threatened to take away your career, your license. That's your lablihood. Yeah. Well, I mean, you, there's like this drop-down menu that you get, you know, they have these electronic medical record systems. And if the drug's not in the drop-down menu, you just can't prescribe it. Oh, okay. You can't even.

Yeah. You know what? Right when COVID, the hell is that noise? Motorcycle? Anyway. Thought it was the Lord coming. But I remember right when COVID hit, the vaccines was available. And I just bought.

the new car and I was sitting with the finance guy doing the paper and he told me this store of his daughter was like I think she was 22 23 and right when COVID hit she had planned to go to Europe and travel but because COVID hit she couldn't go but now it was open up again but to go to Europe to travel you had to take the Vax he told me two weeks after she got her first shot um she just dropped dead oh awful how old she was 22 23 and I asked her what happened was linked to the vaccine. He said, well, she got a blood clot and it went to her lung and she

killed her instantly. And he told me, I was like, was it the shot? And he's like, I don't have any evidence, but if you, I wouldn't suggest you getting a shot. Yeah, well, a 22 year old just doesn't,

unless there's something really, you know, an underlying issue, that's not normal. And yeah, I mean, I know a lot of parents who lost their kids from the shots. Was it blood clots or? Varing things, but, you know, Basically, sudden heart failure.

And one dad, I talked to him. His son was a baseball player at University of Alabama. Just died on the couch, Steve's studying for a test and just died. But, yeah, and another parent son was just playing basketball, drop dead. I mean, just not, just horrible. Yeah, I hear stories for my wife. she was talking to a hairdresser, her dad got the shot. And two days later, he had a heart attack. We all know people, right? We all know. And I hear, I either see somebody, a patient who's been

injured, or I hear a story from a patient who knows, you know, is somebody close to them has been injured. Every day. I mean, four years later, I'm still seeing, it's just in my face on a daily basis. It was a guy up in Canada. He took the, um, the vaccine and his legs turned into sweep potatoes. He's like yams. Yeah, yeah. And he just won a huge case. And I got a friend who worked for the military. They mandated he'd take the shot. He wasn't enlisting the military, but he worked for the base.

And he took the shot, and he had the same side effects. Let me tell you what happened to him. He's overweight, and he got the shots. And he was telling, after he got the shot that was mandated to him to work on the base, his heart started shutting down. So his legs swollen. He couldn't walk. and now they put like four or five stints in his heart. Yeah. And I was thinking out like, well, you're overweight.

Maybe it's been your diet all these years. He's like, dude, it's right after the shot. Right, right. Congestive heart failure. Yeah. You think that shot had anything to do with that? Well, you know, the timing is, you know, suspicious, right? He was healthy before that.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's my age. Is he, yeah. I mean, in the pro, I don't know how his doctor. The one thing I'm seeing is the doctors are a few. refusing to, you know, even entertain the possibility. That's what he told me.

It's a doctor. It doesn't even touch it. Right. It's horrible. What's the, what's the, how many people have you think from that vaccine? Do we have any, any numbers? Yeah. I mean, it's, well, if you look at worldwide, there's a scientist, Dennis Randcourt,

who looked at it. And one thing everybody's looking at is all cause mortality, because everything's gotten so muddy, right? because we've got the, you know, they're saying, well, people are dying from the virus. And then, you know, our camp is saying, well, no, it's actually the shot. And so it gets very muddy. So sort of the bottom line is look at all-cause mortality. And it should be, you know, should be steady or, you know, maybe slightly rising,

but you shouldn't notice a huge increase. And the big increase doesn't come during the early part of the pandemic. It comes after the rollout of the COVID shot. And when you look at worldwide, the scientist Dennis Rancourt, he estimates 17 million excess deaths from these shots. That's worldwide. I believe it because we all have stories, Christmas stories. And no family is a meme for me. Right, right.

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No purchase necessary. Going away prohibited to see official rules with detail. Yeah. What exactly is a MRNA vaccine? It's something new, right? So it's modified. So MRNA is a natural substance in our body, but this is a modification of that. And it contains a synthetic, so you have these base pairs, you know, from the...

Yeah, dumb it down for it. Yeah, I see, I see you try so let me dumb it down for it. Well, okay, well, they just have, they substitute... I don't want my head to explode. They substitute one part of the MRNA with a synthetic animal. A synthetic and nucleoside called pseudo-uridine. So uridine is what's supposed to be there. It's pseudo-uridine, and it's difficult to break down.

Okay. So totally got it. So normally, and then they put this shell around it called lipid nanoparticle. So normally if you just injected MRNA, the body would destroy it. But the shell protects it. But the shell also allows it to escape, you know, It was supposed to just stay in the arm, right? Well, the shell allows it to travel throughout the body, getting to the brain, getting to the ovaries.

We've got a turtle in us. Right, right. That's crazy. Yeah. So like you was saying, you said it was around 17 million deaths. Have we seen a spike in like other diseases, like terminal illnesses like cancer or? So in cancer, so the NIH is sort of the, they keep all the cancer data. Dr. Fawsey?

Yeah. Yeah. But we don't have any fresh data since 2022. Really? Yeah, isn't that odd? That's great. That's very suspicious. But you look at the finance.

So there are other things you can look at like financials. So what's being spent on cancer drugs and that sort of thing? And those have gone up, you know, tremendously in the last three years. Yeah. I've heard the term turbo cancers. Right. Right. Is any...

Well, yeah. What is that? Just rapid onset of high-grade advanced cancer. Okay. And they are seen it in younger people. So there's one set of data shows a 30% increase in cancer in age 18 to 54. So, you know, but the NIH is... That's a pretty strong correlation.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's concerning. And I have a friend. that works at MD Anderson. She said she's never seen anything like it. The young people coming in with aggressive cancer.

Like this vaccine that typically to create a vaccine, how long does it take? Yeah, with any drug that gets put on the market, typically at least a five, if not 10-year process. Five to 10 years. Right. The Trump did in six months. That's crazy. I know, which is why I didn't get the shot.

Why I was reluctant to. I was reluctant to. I was reluctant. But I didn't think it was going to hurt people. I just didn't think it was going to work. Trump brought Johnson and Johnson on stage during one of his rallies. You could hear a pin drop in that bitch.

That's what you call tone down. I'm going. What the hell are you doing? The crowd was just like, man, what you doing? You got Johnson and Johnson on stage. That was the worst one. He shouted out the Pfizer guy too. Yeah.

Yeah, Trump was start talking out. It was because of warp speed and he came up with that. I'm like, dude, what are you doing? Yeah. I don't get that. Do you think he have any responsibility in what happened? Trump?

Yes and no. I mean, I think he could definitely peg some other people and save his ego. Right. You know, he's not a doctor. He relied on some people that... Shit, they came out in six months. I think Trump made this shit in his kitchen.

Six months? Mar-a-lago. He made this shit in Mar-a-Lago. Like, I feel he was talking to us, the three of them, it was Dr. Burks. I think her name was, and it was Fauci. And then Trump was up there having these press conferences. He said, yeah, we got to look at the squirting this shit in your veins. What was it?

Like, I forgot what he was saying. It was like some UV light or something. It was some UV light. You remember that? Okay, yeah. So they keep, and this was, you know, actually that same reporter that I was talking about from Vanity Fair, Catherine Ebon, a few months ago, claim that Trump was telling people to inject

chlorox in their veins. Yeah, right, right, right. Oh, yeah, yeah. He never did that. He never did that. But he was like rambling. It might have been crossies. Is he telling people to stupid chit my face?

It might have crossed his mind, but he did not actually say it. Yeah, that was, yeah. Yeah. Do you think the truth is going to ever, truth? I always put an F on it. Sorry, my Negro. brain. Do you think the truth is ever going to come out? It's come out.

I think it's out there. It's just we don't have people in authority willing to acknowledge it. That's a problem. But you look at the vast majority of people are not following CDC recommendations, right? They're not buying it. But we just don't have anybody with big microphones like

you know. RFC Jr. He just pulled it from the child schedule, right? Yeah. I mean, it's still being given to children. So they said, we won't give it to healthy children, whatever that means.

Why don't you give it to children? You do not need to give it to any child. You don't give it to any human being, but certainly not a child. Yeah, yeah. Like, no kids died from, like babies? Did any babies die from COVID? Well, they may have tagged it as, you know,

they may have labeled it as such, but I have a very hard time believing unless they were mismanaged. I mean, you could, you know, you could help any patient overcome COVID with, you know, maybe not everybody, but the vast majority of people with proper treatment instead of, you know, most doctors, you know, shut their doors and said, just go to the emergency room if you can't breathe.

That's what they told me because we were, we were talking about the COVID before we got it. And then we got it. I was like, shit, I'm going to die. Right. All the Republicans are saying, it's just a bad flu. It's just a bad flu. And I was saying the same thing. Yeah.

So they got down. It's just a flu. Right. So I got it. I said, yep, I'm about to die. And I remember I did a teleconference with a doctor. And I said, what can you give me? He's like, I can't give you anything. Just stay quarantined in your house and just wait it through. That's it. Just wait until you die. And then I would call Kevin, because he got it too. We both got at the same time. And I would call Kevin just to make sure he was still breathing. Yeah. And then I called Mr. Man.

I have this weird side effect. My feet are blue. Yeah. You have the blue toes. Yeah. I'm telling myself, I think that's stage four. That happens right before you.

What? What color is blue feet? Wow. Yeah. If you're like dark skin, you got pale feet? Yeah, you're done. But I have really pale feet. Yeah.

It's not a good sign, actually. But I'm glad you got through it. Would they give you anything? They didn't give you. Would you? No. No. He asked for amyctum.

He said, I can't prescribe that. He could. That's a lie. He was allowed to prescribe it. He just wouldn't. Yeah. Yeah, I just stay in my room. I remember my kidneys, my back, my little back was hurting a lot.

And I got over in like two weeks. I was like, that was not the fucking flu. I agree. I think it was worse than the flu. Yeah. People say it was just a flu, but it was worse. I think that came. I mean, I don't think that came from Mother Nature.

I think it came from the land. I think it was an attack. And I don't think it was a leak. I think it was released. Oh, you don't think it was. I think it was bio-warfare. Yeah. And why is that so hard to fathom?

I mean, we have a whole, you know, department and our government dedicated to fighting bio-warfare. I don't understand why this is that so tricky to. And the crazy thing about it, we were funding it. Right, right, right. Yeah, I remember when Trump said this started in China and then the China president said, you guys started all this shit in my country. I was like, yeah, that sounds like bullshit.

But it turns out it was all true. It was us. Yeah. That is wild to think about it. Maybe working with the Chinese. Maybe, yeah. But I think it was, I don't think it was a leak. Yeah, we always say China's bad, bad, bad,

the communists, communists. But why do we got a lab there that we're funding for a novel virus? Yeah. It makes no sense. No, it makes absolutely no sense. Do you think Dr. Fauci has any blood on his hands about how things were handled during COVID? I'm gagging over here.

I think's COVID coming back. It is coming back, by the way. If you read the headlines, I've seen that. Yes. How true is it, though? I don't think they're going to try to see it. Well, they cried Wolf with bird flu. Remember, they tried to get everybody riled up right before the election about bird flu.

So I just, I don't, I'm not buying it. Yeah. But, yeah, and Fauci, of course, deserves. He should be in prison. He does not deserve a prize. pardon. Yeah. Yeah, he got a pardon, right? Why would Dr. Fawson need a pardon? Right. Right. He wasn't charged with anything, right? So why would, what was the... I don't even think his pardon is legit. It was a damn auto pen. Yeah, that's true.

You're going to make it? I think so. You got some Ivermectin. You got some ibupamectin? I actually, you know, women, we have so much in our purse. And I'm like, oh, there's some Ivermectin. I got it what's in there? Yeah. So you think 17 million people died from it and it's a spike in cancer across the globe. Definitely. Yeah, it's concerning.

And the thing that worries me, too, is I test people's antibody levels to spike protein. Oh, after you get it. And because I'll have patients coming in with issues, long-term chronic debilitating health problems following these shots. And we don't have a great test for them other than the same. spike protein antibody test. And when you look at people that did not get the shots, the levels typically under 1,000, you get like people that have gotten these shots, they're 10 times that. And this is four years later.

Wow. Yeah, it does not make sense because typically the antibody levels will just drop down over time, right? Especially four years later, you're not getting any more shots. You're not getting sick. but the test goes up to 25,000, and I have a lot of patients to exceed the upper limit of the test.

25 times? 25,000. So that is concerning. That's nuts. Like I forgot to tell you, like, my sister-in-law, she was working as, she wasn't a nurse.

She had this, like, a job. It was through the county, but she was seeing her, her aunt who has dementia and Alzheimer's, so she was getting paid through the accounting to help her own aunt, right? And when the COVID shots came out, they told her for you to continue working with your aunt, you have to get this shot. So she gets the shot, but then she develops some heart issues.

And they say she had inflammation of the heart. That's what they told her. Yeah, no, that's very common. And the thing I really worry about with these kids is you don't know if you have myocarditis. if you don't have chest pain. So you could have silent myocarditis. If you have a baby that's not talking, you have no idea if they've had myocarditis

and it can leave a permanent scar on the heart. And then you are at a lifelong increased risk of sudden death after myocarditis. And so how many of these kids potentially have gotten myocarditis after these shots? Go to high school, participate in sporting events and stuff like that. I've seen a lot of professional athletes. It was never noticeable to me, but you would see people on the, on the, on soccer fields, just dropping dead.

And those numbers are scary. Prior to these shots, they looked at, you know, how many per year? Because it was happening prior to COVID and prior to the shots. And I can't remember the exact year, but it was like 29 in one year. And then it jumped up to 290 after these shots in a year. That's just a correlation. Right, right. Yeah, correlation.

You're a conspiracy there is. The football player, what is his name? Well, how about LeBron James' son? His 18-year-old son. It's not a big deal. That's like heart-related when people pass out like that. Oh, yeah, I've seen enough of that. Yeah, but it's horrible.

Yeah. But LaGron's football player, he dropped and he almost died right there on the field. I'm sure you was wearing that case. In Buffalo? Yeah. Is that DeMar Hamlin? Demar Hamlin? Yeah, yeah.

So he had a press conference and he asked him about what was the cause of it. There was his long pause and he says, I don't want to discuss that. Yeah. Like, why wouldn't you want to discuss that? Yeah. Well, we don't want to promote vaccine hesitancy. Yeah. Right.

I'm just shocked at how many people in society are like cowards. They can't really stand up and speak truth. Yeah. Or speak up against something that they don't believe in. But, you know, the backlash was vicious. I mean, they went after me really hard. Yeah. They're trying to take.

They're still after me, the medical board. They still after you? Still. Yeah. So I was talking earlier about that patient in the ICU. Wife was trying to get him Ivermectin. She sued the hospital because they refused to let him try Ivermectin. And then she asked me to help her.

So I became, you know, they can't make a doctor write a prescription. for a drug, what they could make the hospital give another doctor willing to do it, make them give privileges. So that's what they sued, is to let me get privileges so I could write the prescription for the Ibermectin. And we won the case. It's crazy you have to sue for that. Exactly.

Yeah, it's horrible. Won the case. The hospital still, I mean, the hospital basically refused to obey the court order, and they made me go through all these, this rigourmet. had to submit surgical case logs and get letters of recommendation. And normally, like during the pandemic, if you applied for emergency privileges, it was a same-day process because they were so tight on doctors. They needed people.

But in this situation, you know, they tried to make it as difficult as possible. And then basically they said, well, we're not going to give you privileges, even though we have a court order. Yeah. So there was all this back and forth that they had to go back to the judge. And then I finally get the green light. And the lawyer's like, yes, you can go. You can send it.

And I sent a nurse because this patient was actually in Dallas and I was in Houston. Nurse shows up and the police are there and she's not allowed in the ICU. She leaves. They ended up, they got a stay on the order. So they appealed immediately. And our lawyers didn't know about the stay. So, I mean, legitimately she was not allowed to go in there. But it was she didn't cause a scene.

but they're saying that, you know, I sent a nurse to the hospital without having privileges, and, you know, I was dangerous to other patients for her to do that. And that's what they're going after me for in the medical board. That's been three and a half years. You wasn't even there. I wasn't there. And you found a court order. Yeah, I was following a court order.

And there was a misunderstanding over, because we didn't know about the stay. But, you know, our intentions were good. And, yeah, so three and a half years later, they, because I fought it. I mean, I could have just paid a big fine, but I decided to fight it. It's still going on. So you fight you fighting it. Now they want to take your license. Well, I don't know if they'll take the license, but they're, you know, they're making it. They want to come out on top. They're trying to, yeah.

Same face, in other words. Yeah. Or I could only see them doing that justifying and, you know, censor you if, say you prescribe something that people are dying from. But to my knowledge, nobody's died from Ivermectum, right? It's super safe. I mean, it should be over the counter. And before I started using it, I really dug into the safety because I knew it was so controversial.

Like if I hurt anybody with it, it would be a big deal. And if you look, like I did a literature search trying to find overdose, you know, accidental or intentional or people tried to commit suicide. I couldn't find a single study. And then you go to the FDA's website and you can find toxicity data. And you can see that it is not, it's a very, you'd have to give enormous amounts of the medication to hurt somebody. So, yeah.

We have over-counted medication right now. Like, Tylenol is very toxic. Tylenol is definitely more dangerous than Ivermectin. So, like, Tylenol should be banned. I think we should ban Tylenol, yes. How many people die here from Tylenol? Yeah, no, it's a minute. Like, you go, I don't know exact number, but if you look, if you do a literature search

for accidental, intentional overdose from Tylenol, you'll find thousands of studies. Wow. Well, it sounds like the government might be having to pay reparations to people because they met, because Joe Biden came out and mandated that on all federal and city employees. It looked like they're going to be owing reparations to people that were injured. I hope so. There's a big lawsuit. It's been a battle.

So Brooke Jackson was a whistleblower with Pfizer. She worked for the research company that was overseen. the trials and she saw these issues going on like quality control issues and so she came forward she reported these issues of the FDA she was a whistleblower and then she immediately got fired so she has been suing them trying to get this exposed but the government has come in swooped in and trying to save Pfizer so the DOJ is the government the government yes both sides and this is Pam Bondi government yeah so it started with Biden's government yeah Merrick, is it Merrick Garland was old?

And now the Pam Bondi, DOJ is saying, no, you can't sue Pfizer because it goes against public health policies. Yeah. Yeah, it's not good. But this case could bankrupt Pfizer. It's an important case. It needs to go forward at least. At least let it just go through the court system. Right.

So when you was trying to prescribe this medication, it's like. becoming a doctor is no simple feat, right? It takes, how long does it take to become a doctor? Yeah, it's four years of college and four years in medical school, and then you do, it depends on what you go into, three to five years of what we call residency. Okay. So like, for a doctor?

You work, like, in a big team of doctors and you basically get trained because medical school is basically a lot of books more than anything. Right, no hands-out. So it's like 12 to 15 years goes into that, huh? Become a doctor? Yeah, for me, It was 13 years. 13 years.

Yeah. So you went, you jumped through all those hoops, and then there's this bureaucracy keeping you from doing your job. Right, right. And I thought, like, I'm pretty independent. So I thought becoming a doctor would be, allow me to kind of be my own boss. Mm-hmm. Right. But you would think, yeah.

You would think. Yeah. But while the only, fortune, these medical companies tell you what to do. Yeah. And they don't have degrees in medicine. Yeah. And the, yeah. And the, the, the, the, the, the new thing now is the pharmacist.

have these powers because the pharmacists were blocking my ivermectin prescriptions and i got sick yes and i was like well who's going to take care of this patient when they go downhill should i send them to you walgreens pharmacist i'm saying to walgreens that's crazy so a person went to school for six months got a certificate telling you what to do well the pharmacists they train longer than six months i'll say that but but they don't they don't have any accountability for the patient They're not listening to the patient's lungs and all that. That is nuts. That is crazy.

Like, I'm very, like, I was never scared to go to the hospital. Yeah, it's a safe place. That's where you go to, they save your life. My little boy broke his arms, so they said, we've got to put him under. And I was like, and I was like, I was worried. I said, what if he doesn't wake up? And I was like, it took them for like two hours. I was talking to me.

Yeah. Before they convinced me to do it. Yeah. It's terrifying. Yeah, because they had to replace his form back in the spot. Because they said, you're going to hit some cracking. It's going to be painful. He said it'd be better if he's under.

He's under you. Yeah. And it's sad that we're all scared to get to the hospital now. I'm terrified of vaccines and doctors. Yeah. And then if the government doesn't do anything, that, I mean, the trust is gone. We have to restore trust.

which is why it's so important that we keep on this. Yeah, somebody needs to be, I mean, countability, that's all I want. Transparency. If there's none of that, then it's like, how do you regain that trust, if at all? But knowing all this information, all these spikes in cancer and sudden death, and they're still giving this vaccine the kids. Yeah, yeah, it's awful. And I mean.

And Republicans are not doing anything about it. well and I do have an effort going on with it turns out they all they're all Republicans although it's not you know but I'm trying to recruit politicians to just state that the COVID shot should be pulled off the market and so I've got 252 elected officials only three from Congress but a lot of state representatives and state senators so nobody does elected in Congress wants to put the name well Marjorie Taylor Green well I know she's crazy I know she I know she Margie don't give a damn

I love her Guess do you know who the other two are Just get Yes Thomas Massey And then who do you think the third one It's a senator Senator I would say T Cruz

No No Really? He said hell no Well I know it's not Lindsay Graham Who's the Ron Johnson

Ron Johnson Oh okay Wow They all should be saying And you know they're not getting these shots anymore, right? They're not getting them. They're not following CDC recommendations. They're not giving them to their children because they have safety concerns.

Are people still dying from COVID here in the country? No, no. I mean, I can't remember the last time I saw a COVID patient. First of all, even saw a COVID patient. Second of all, worried about my COVID patient. Like, I did used to worry. I used to give my cell phone out to everybody because I was worried. I don't worry anymore.

Yeah. I got COVID four times. I got COVID a lot too. Yeah. I got it four times. Second time my feet didn't go blue. It gets milder and milder. Well, what I don't understand is like when you got the vaccine, they said you got to get a booster.

What was that all about? Yeah, every six months. Yeah. We've never seen anything like it, right? Not even a flu shot. Yeah. You got to get your booster. You just get your booster?

I was like, this is like, man. And then it was forcing the vaccine and a boost on people who already had COVID. Oh, right. No, yeah. Right after you get. recover. Then you need an extra dose of spike protein. Yeah, you need extra spike protein in your body. Yeah, I was pissed at my system when she got it. I said, but you already got COVID. Well, I just want to be safe. I'm like, fuck! Because I didn't think she would. No. No.

Is she okay though? No, she's fine. She's fine. She's fine. She's fine. She's fine. She's fine. It's been a few years now. Like, um, I've, uh, I didn't get the vaccine. I had COVID and we donate blood it regularly, right? And they said you got still have the antibodies for COVID. Like three years after the fact, it's like, why were they pushing it? Yeah. That vaccine on people after they had it, money. Well, Bill Gates, he said something that I thought was bizarre. Asked the top scientists in this several times, do we really have to get down to near zero? Can't we just, you know, cut it in half or a quarter? And the answer is that until we get near to zero, the temperature will continue to rise. And so that's a big challenge. It's very different than saying, you know,

we're a 12-foot high truck trying to get under a 10-foot bridge and we can just sort of squeeze under. This is something that has to get to zero. Now we put out a lot of carbon dioxide every year. Over 26 billion tons. For each American, it's about 20 tons. For people in poor countries, it's less than one ton. It's an average about five tons for everyone on the planet. And somehow we have to make changes that will bring that down to zero. It's been constantly going up. It's only various economic changes that have even flattened at all.

So we have to go from rapidly rising to falling and falling all the way to zero. This equation has four factors, a little bit of multiplication. So you've got a thing on the left, CO2, that you want to get to the same. get to zero and that's going to be based on the number of people, the services each person's using on average, the energy on average for each service, and the CO2 being put out per unit of energy. So let's look at each one of these and see how we can get this down to zero. Probably one of these numbers is going to have to get pretty near to zero. That's back from high school algebra, but let's take a look. First we've been

got population. Now, the world today has 6.8 billion people, that's headed up to about 9 billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15%. What? Whoa. Yeah, why would he say that with, you going to give people a vaccine so they can die? That's what it sounds like. Yeah. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's headed up to about 9 million. billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care,

reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15%. That is great. I don't know if he lost his train of thought. Yeah, but that sounds diabolical. And just to say it in front of a group of people? Yeah. It's almost like this is like a secret meeting

with rich people and important people talking about how they're going to exterminate the earth. This is a TED talk, too. It's a TED talk, huh? I've never seen that. Yeah. What does that have to do with population reduction? I think we just saw that, huh?

I thought they were supposed to save us all. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny how they changed the definition of what a vaccine is. Right. Yeah. That new definition made it seem like a condom is a vaccine. You know, it wasn't no longer a vaccine.

Immune response. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Versus vitamins is a vaccine. Yeah. Anything. Anything that provokes an immune response is a vaccine. Mm-hmm.

The vaccine. We just started selling methylene blue, which is way better than energy drinks, without the jitters or the crash or the anxiety did it give you. Yeah, they also have some anti-cancered properties in that. Yes, it's a damn good methylene blue right now. Head over to fishwallis twins.com. Hey, I want to ask you about methylene blue. We was watching, I think it was Joe Rogan. And it was with Mel Gibson.

And if I remember correctly, I don't know if you were like seen the episode. but someone had stage four cancer. Had friends. Right. And they started taking methylene blue and it wiped out the cancer. Is there any proof to that? Was it just methylene blue? I have a hard time believing that it was just...

They mentioned methanol blue, but that's what was the focus. Do you have that, Joe? They took some... What you've heard they've taken. Ivermecting. Okay. Phenbendazole. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm hearing that a lot. They drank hydrostole. chloride something or other. There's studies on that now where people have proven that they've drinking methylene blue and stuff like. Yeah, methylene blue, which was a fabric dye. Yeah. Yeah, it was a textile dye.

And then they find out how it has profound effects on your mitochondria. Yep. Yeah. This stuff works, man. Bell. Bill Gibson. Hey, he says it. I'm on board.

Yeah, Mel says it. I'm taking it. Dr. Mel Gibson. You're right. Yeah, you think there's any proof to that? Well, yeah. I've had some cancer patients show up wanting a Hail Mary with Ivermectin and the menacelle.

I haven't seen miracles yet. And I don't, it's a, so I don't have a big population of cancer patients to base a good opinion on. But I do, I have heard from doctors I trust that they have seen some good results. I just, I don't know yet. I don't see any harm and trying. Right. Because chemo, it just kills every cell.

You're just hoping it kills the right sales, but it ends up killing all your cells, really. And how about the methylene blue? I was doing some research on it. It's actually a diet, synthetic drug. It actually strengthens the cells. That's been clinically proven. I use it for patients that are really low in energy. I try that.

And I would say it's not 100% but, you know, it tends to help. Yeah. Like my energy is kind of low. We just turned what we're 50. I'm going to be 51 this year, right? So I know it's like my energy's like better. When you take it? I've been taking for actually a couple weeks.

And this is kind of gross, I'm going to tell you. Not really gross. Why do you got to go there? No, it's gross to me. If it's gross to you, it's going to be gross to her. You've probably seen a lot of crazy shit as a doctor. Well, I had this, what hand was it? It was this finger right here.

Yeah, it was this one. Okay, so it would fill up with like this clear, like, slimy liquid, and I would pop it. I thought it was like a wart. And I would pop it, it would go away about a week later to fill back up with whatever that was. And it was going on for like a year. I started taking methylene blue. I popped it, it just dried up and won away. That's awesome.

Well, it does. I mean, there's an anti-infective component to it. So maybe you had some sort of infection. That was an infection? I don't know. That's my best explanation based on what you're telling me, but I don't know. It was really weird and it's gone. Does it have any effect on cyst in the body?

On cyst? Yeah. I don't know. We're asking some dumb questions. Well, let me just. I'll tell you my story. Okay. You see this risk.

There's nothing there, right? Wrist. Wrist. Risk. I said wrist. I'm with a T. Wrist. Right.

This one has a little bump in it. And it was very prominent about, I would say, about three weeks ago, I started taking Metham Flame Blue and it started to go down. Like, when I used to do this, it looked like it was protruding. Very interesting. Yeah, I don't know. Do you have a picture, a before and after? I think I had someone on my phone on my phone.

but it was like very big and it was painful. How much methylame blue are you taking? About 10 to 15 drops a day. Okay. Yeah. I don't know if it has anything to do with. It's just something I noticed. I know it got rid of that little whatever I had going to add infection.

It was gross. I'm up thinking it was never there. Yeah. When it says it increased the strength of the mitochondria, what it makes the sale stronger, it sends oxygen to the cell. Yeah. I don't, honestly, I haven't looked at it in a long time. Oh, really?

Okay. Give you the exact mechanism of action. But, yeah. It helps the mitochondria, which is your energy source in the cell. What do you think are RFK and Maha what he's doing? Yeah. Frustrating. Very frustrating.

Oh, okay. Spill of beans. Well, yeah. I mean, Kennedy was going to save us all, right? Right. He was the answer, right? We were very excited. That's what Trump did with that vaccine.

in back the phone, he'll save everybody. Right, right. He was going to be the wrecking ball. Right, right. It's just taking a little longer than I would have expected. And, you know, things coming out, like still, you know, yes, I'm glad it's all, is off the childhood vaccine schedule as a step. But it, I mean, honestly, I, can I take, is it okay if I take this off?

Yeah, you can take them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so his, um, the speed and yeah I'm glad they're off the schedule but honestly I mean I'm facing injured patients on a daily basis the thing needs to be taken off the market he could do that with a stroke of the pin and I don't understand what he has to lose and maybe yeah maybe he gets fired but I mean can you imagine if if he took the shots off the market and then Trump fired him

yeah yeah people would completely yeah revolt because Trump still toutstay vaccine he's very proud of that vaccine we need to talk some sense into him yeah rogan said he was going to talk to him oh really do you think trump took the vaccine hi everybody i'm robert f kennedy junior your h h s secretary and i'm here today with nih h director dr j badacharya and the director fdaa commissioner dr marty mccary i couldn't be more pleased to announce that as of today, the COVID vaccine for healthy children and healthy pregnant women has been removed from the CDC recommended immunization schedule. Last year, the Biden administration urged healthy children to get yet another COVID shot despite the lack of any clinical data to support the repeat booster

strategy in children. That ends today. It's common sense and it's good science. There's no evidence healthy kids need it today. And most countries have- I'm definitely reading this. I know. One step closer to realizing President Trump's promise to make America healthy again. It's probably somebody with a gun on the side. You say what word?

Blow your ass or? That's the tone, isn't it? Yeah. It's like it was under duress. Yeah. You know what? Like Republicans, Democrats, I'm Republican. You know what?

Everybody's full of shit. Yeah. When it comes down to it. Yeah. Why can you just speak the truth? Yeah. Yeah. Everything revolves around money.

Yeah. And power. In power. Yeah, when they say this country's ran by oligarchs, it's true. But we don't live in a free country. It's just Elon Musto. Huh? It's just Elon Musk, though.

That's the only oligarch they're afraid of. I know worried about it. Right. He came out today, didn't he? And got upset with everybody. About the budget? About the budget? Yeah.

about the group. Yeah, they're kind of a big, beautiful bill. Yeah. Yeah, he says that plan is going to defeat all the work they did with Doge. So it's going to add to the deficit. So what do you think? I think Thomas Massey needs to be our next president. He spoke out against it.

Yeah. And he got a lot of heat for that. Mm-hmm. So people speaking out against that bill, they're like, that's people we need in office. That's what I think, yeah. Thomas Massey. You heard that, everybody? Thomas Massey, look him up.

Yeah. Only got without an 8-pack handler. Is that true? Wow. Yeah, I really don't like that when a foreign nation. If they want to make that place up one of our states, then I don't have a leg to stand on. But that's still a foreign nation dictating who gets elected in our country. I think that's, like, horrible.

Yeah, I told Joe I would not talk about Israel and Gaza. Don't. You don't have to. I can cut all these shit up. I don't want to get you in. I don't want to get you in trouble. I don't know. Just say no comment.

Cut that juice shit out. She don't want to fucking do Jews. Yeah, we'll cut that. We won't even talk about it. There's no comment. No comment. Yeah. Yeah.

She already got the heat. I know. I don't need that. Yeah. Yeah, I don't blame. I don't blame. Do you think there's another pandemic that's going to be cooked up? They're trying.

I just read a headline that, you know, China is on lockdown. But they tried to... Well, I just read it one... You know, that was... It doesn't seem to be in the mainstream news from what I can tell. But they tried to scare us with bird flu right before the election. So I don't know. I think they're just upset over this new vaccine situation.

Probably a distraction, huh? Yeah. I mean, that's my guess. Yeah. I'm not worried. You're just worried about them Jews? No, I'm not. I'm not.

I love the juice. I love everybody, too. Do not piss off a juice. Right, right. I think that's why I did he's like that, man. Hey, what do you think about... What do you think about, um, O-ZMPIC? Oh, no, no, no, not a big fan.

Not a big fan? No. I was reading some of the side effects. One of them was exploding stomach. I was like, what the hell is that? I mean, no. I mean, I'm a big fan of carnivore diet. Yeah, that...

Oh, you tried that? Oh, yeah. I did it for six months. And I lost 15% of my body weight. I mean, it was crazy. Yeah, you're in great shape. I need to try to carnivore. Yeah, I need to get all this.

I need to jump on some carnival oil, yeah. But it burns fat. I mean, that's, you go into ketosis and you burn fat, and it's super simple, and you don't have to be on the rest of your life. You're not counting calories. No, you don't count calories. I was snacking on bacon. I was taking bacon to love to work. I love bacon.

And just chowing down on bacon. And you're losing weight. It's crazy. Wow. It sounds like a product, like eating a bunch of fat and protein you will gain weight, but it's not. It's the carbs. Yeah, my insulin level dropped to 0.2. Yeah.

That's the key to losing weight, keeping your insulin level. Yeah, exactly. Keep the insulin down. Well, whoope Goldberg, she's taking one of those drugs. She lost a lot of weight. She was like fat Albert that. On Ozzyg? Yeah.

Yeah, but she lost a lot of muscle, too, though. You lose a bunch of muscle, and that doesn't spare the heart. You lose heart muscle, too. What? Yeah. It's a muscle. What did you say? You lose heart muscle?

Yes. Wow. I just wouldn't mess with that. I mean, there's, like, there's, you know, use some self-discipline. Right. And carnival. And common sense. What's that?

I just posted on my Facebook. Right? Yeah. I just posted, what's the name? Osborne. Kelly Osborne. What was the name? Kelly Osborne?

Yeah. I think it's the mom, right? Sharon? Yeah. Sharon Ospre. She was on Ozempic. I just posted the bottom of my article. I was having Biden brain now for a second,

but she can't gain her weight back. Oh, really? She's emaciated. She looks emaciated. She cannot, and her doctors don't know what to tell her. She looked like she got duck lips, too. Yeah, well, the muscles, you lose all that muscle mass. So it doesn't spare muscle.

What is exactly is it? Is it, I heard it's lizard venom? I don't know. I mean, maybe, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. That's a nice lizard you found that, Joe. Yeah, yeah.

The Gila monster. Interesting. Yeah. I just wouldn't mess with that. You know what's crazy? There was other stuff. Especially coming from that bass, it was another drug.

It was called Finfin. You remember? Yeah, yeah. Got pulled off the market. Got put off the market. And it's like every three or four years, this is new weight loss drugs. There's no quick fix.

There's no quick fix. Common sense and self-discipline. And I was like, that stuff, I said, man, that's another. the fin fin. Exactly. Exactly. Yep. So stay away from it. A very expensive fin fin, too. Yeah. One that you have to inject, which is even scarier. Right. Well, another great drug brought to you from the pharmaceutical company. That's crazy. Well, this has been great. It's been very enlightening. Yeah. And I want to thank you for coming to the show. Thank you for your courage,

because a lot of doctors are not saying anything. Yeah. Thank you for making me laugh. of these I don't laugh. Yeah, you actually... You're not being offended. You actually got balls, lady. Which is really cool. Yeah. So, hey, it's nice.

Thank you. Thank you. Where can people find you? Well, I'm pretty active on X. At MD, Breathe. I also have a substack. And then if you want to help me get more politicians on board, you can go to Americans for Healthfreedom.org,

and there's a very simple pledge. You can send it to them and ask them to sign. Oh, cool. Awesome. We put all the information in the description box of a video. Thank you. Thank you.