Hodgetwins Podcast - Pawn Stars ICON Shares How He Made The BIGGEST TV Show EVER | Twins Pod - Episode 78 - Rick Harrison

Episode Date: August 22, 2025

Pawn Stars is the biggest show that has ever been made. Coming up on its 16th Season, Rick Harrison pitched this show for years before it got off the ground, and in its first year on air, it was the N...umber 1 show on TV. He talks about how he got started, the craziest things he's got at the shop and how he's created his empire.Become a Member and Give Us Some DAMN GOOD Support :https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdg/joinGet your Twins merch and have a chance to win our Ford F-250 King Ranch, Ember Camper Hellcat & 20K in cash! - https://officialhodgetwins.com/Get Optimal Human, your all in one daily nutritional supplement - https://optimalhuman.com/Want to be a guest on the Twins Pod? Contact us at bookings@twinspod.comDownload Free Twins Pod Content - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_iNb2RYwHUisypEjkrbZ3nFoBK8k60COFollow Twins Pod Everywhere -X - https://twitter.com/TheTwinsPodInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/thetwinspod/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/twinspodTikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@twinspodYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdgRumble - https://rumble.com/c/TwinsPodSpotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/79BWPxHPWnijyl4lf8vWVu?si=03960b3a8b6b4f74Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/twins-pod/id1731232810

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We got Rick Harrison, co-owner of the famous Golden Silver Pond Shop. On the fabulous Las Vegas strip. Yeah. He's got a reputation being the guy to go to. So the next thing I know, I got Super Bowl rings. I got Picasso's on the wall. Then I got a TV show. How did this show come about?
Starting point is 00:00:17 Did y'all pitch the idea again? I pitched the show for years. And everyone kept on telling me no one wants to watch a show about four fat guys in pawn shop. That's a great name. Four fat guys. This time of year, I average like 15, 1600 people a day through the door. damn tourist destination. Yes, yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Oh, yeah, and there is a gift shop. Yeah. You can get yourself a chumly bobblehead. Order to pawn shop on this trip, you get to meet every class of society. Rich people, poor people, pimps, fucking, just tweakers, just like a little bit of fucking everything. That's what Democrats envisioned. Diversity. Diversity right now.
Starting point is 00:00:54 What's the word is something somebody ever brought into your shop? The craziest thing, some guy came in with seven human skulls in a double bag. Yeah, welcome to episode 78. We got Rick Harrison, co-owner of the famous Golden Silver Pond Shopping. That's me. Yep, Las Vegas. Yeah. On the fabulous Las Vegas strip.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Yeah. Were you born here in Vegas? No, I was born in North Carolina. We're both two out to Vegas. Well, a long story. But, you know, so my dad was in the Navy. And so he got transferred to San Diego. Diego. We were there until
Starting point is 00:01:35 81 when I was 16 when interest rates a Democrat was in office. I love San Diego when I was down. Yeah, so yeah, interest rates were like 21% so we went broke so we It just races, 21%. Yeah, a home loans were 21% in 1980.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Wow. Yeah. And, you know, so we moved to the land of milk and honey. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we've reached from I'm from Virginia, Martinsville. I'm not sure. I think I've been to Lexington, North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:02:09 How far I said from Eat, North Carolina? Well, Lexington North is Barbecue Capital of the world. Yeah, we've been there. We played a basketball game. That was kids, yeah. Yeah, that city. Yeah, I remember Lexington and North Carolina. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Damn, I can't get over the 21% inch. That's how much, yeah. That's how bad Jimmy Carter fucked up the economy. me. Democrats are roof, huh? Who the hell can afford a home at 21% interest rates? No, what? My dad was in the real estate business.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I like that. So he went bankrupt and got moved to Vegas. We moved to Vegas and started a little buy-and-sell shop on the strip. Your dad started that? He had a little buy-and-sell shop, but then when I was 23. So we both wanted to get a pawn shop. Okay. And so, you know, as a cocky 22-year-old, everyone was telling me, it's like, it's going to cost, you got to wait for someone to die, and it's going to cost you a million dollars for a license.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Really? And I was like, that's fucking bullshit. And, you know, because I'm a cocky 22-year-old. Why did it cost so much to have a license? Well, so in 1955, the good old boys got together. And they wrote a city ordinance saying they'd issue one more pond license when the city population got to a quarter of a million. Only 25,000 people lived in Vegas at the time. Wow.
Starting point is 00:03:28 So, you know, so when I'm 22, I got on a city business license. They tell me this. I'm like, well, damn, it's got to be close. So I started call up the city's statistician every couple weeks. And in, I think it was like April of 88, he says, yeah, we think it's a quarter of a million now. So like as a cocky 23-year-old, I went down there, so I know I'm the first one here, give me the license. Right. Because even back then, I mean, you had to wait for someone to like dying, and then they'd sell the license for like a million bucks.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Okay. So I sued the city. Judge says he was the first one there. And the law says the pawn license, the 195 law said a pawn license is 50 bucks. It's 50 bucks. Hmm. Wow. So the last pawn license in Vegas just sold for $3 million.
Starting point is 00:04:10 $3 million? Yeah. It's a lucrative business in the stuff. Right. Yeah. Like Vegas is a special place for pawn shops, right? Well, yeah. I mean, it's like,
Starting point is 00:04:20 I was the first 24-hour pawn shop of the United States. So, like, you know. Would y'all get the idea to open a lot? a pawn shop. Oh, no, because we were buying and selling stuff, but all the money's in the pot shop. You know, no one wants to sell their shit. They want to borrow money against their shit. Trust me, I know.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Because I used to pawn shit all the time. Never had the money to go get it back. Yeah, so we got the pawn line. Didn't have a lot of money to start. There was a lot of struggling, but then, you know, and most people don't know this, but almost all the pawn shops in the United States are owned by big corporations. Didn't know that. You know, like Cash America, I think's got like 2,000 locations and like Easy Corp.
Starting point is 00:04:57 and all the, so I knew I couldn't compete head-to-head with Walmart, so I had to be Tiffany's. And, you know, told all my employees, like, you know, if the Queen of England comes in here, she's going to be proud to take a shit in our bathrooms, right? Right. Yeah, it's going to be like the cleanest,
Starting point is 00:05:11 nicest pawn shop ever than... Yeah. You know, and I guess, and then just got a reputation being the guy to go to, so the next thing I know, I got Super Bowl rings. I got Picasso's on the wall,
Starting point is 00:05:21 and then I got a TV show. Yeah, right. I'd imagine you had a good reputation for being fair. I mean, that's kind of it, dude. I mean, like, you really, it's like that whole six degrees of Kevin Bacon or whatever, you know, if you rip somebody out, they're going to, everybody's going to tell everybody. Right, right. It's not as much when you get people a good deal, but eventually the reputation gets out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Oh, yeah, and there is a gift shop. Yeah. You can get yourself a Chumley Bumblehead. Did you ever envision your pawn shop having that much success? No, no, dude. I mean, like, you know, it was like the whole reality thing when it came out like 20 years ago. Right. You know, I'm thinking, fuck, if I get a reality show and I get a season or two, it'll be good for business.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Mm-hmm. Right. I never thought for a minute, like, it was, we were on TV, we were on the air for 10 months, and I was the number one shown on cable. Just crazy. Yeah. And then. amazing, you know, just never fucking stops. We're about to start filming season
Starting point is 00:06:30 23. I've been on longer than Law & Order. Holy cow, man, that's amazing. Right around 750 episodes or something like that. Yeah. How did this show come about? Did you all pitched out of yet? I pitched the show for years. And everyone kept on telling me no one wants to watch a show about four fat guys in a pawn shop.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And so it took me a while to figure out how to... That's a great day. So after I'd be doing this for years trying to get the show with, I figured out how to do it. I found out that no one in Hollywood wants you unless someone else wants you. So I started talking to producers and lying that someone else wanted me. Yeah, so the second he's telling him like another network, oh, well, hold it. And that's basically, yeah, I just lied myself on the TV.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Wow. Well, you got to know how to negotiate. I imagine. you learned that over the years of being a running a pawn shop you can do that. Yeah, but that attribute. To be on TV for that long, people got to truly like you. Yeah, I mean, you know, you got my personalized and everything, but like the show is always going to be a family show.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I was trying to make it a family show. I was trying to make it a show. Like, you can watch it with your kids and your parents and everyone's going to enjoy it. So, and sort of like laugh and learn TV. Right. That's fun. I still enjoy doing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah. Has it always been, like, when you first started, was it, were financially secure? I mean, were you making money as soon as you started? Yeah. Yeah. I've always been a hustler. I mean, I've had one job in my life that I got a paycheck at.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I was a bus boy for a month at the start-us back in the day. This was one Leffey Rosenthal was there in that whole deal. Right, right. And, yeah, like when left, when Mr. Rosenberg, I didn't even know his nickname was Lefty. I didn't know none of that shit. I was like 16 years old. and whenever he came into, because I was a bus boy in the palm room, the coffee shop.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And whenever he came in, he sat in the back, and now the bus boys were allowed to go to his table. He had his one waitress. He had his one waitress. But, like, that was back in the day. And he dressed up just like a casino. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Right. Yeah, like those really fucking, those just, those fucking atrocious suits. Those zoots suits in the story. It was ridiculous. Wow. That's crazy, man. Like, when you first started your poem,
Starting point is 00:08:54 shop, how much capital did you need? Was it? I needed a lot. I didn't have it. So, like, I was borrowing from everybody and, like, paying crazy money to get the money. But it all worked out at the end. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Yeah. Yeah, there was, I mean, it was a 24-hour pawn shop, too. So, like, that's crazy. There's plenty of times. I worked, like, 36 hours straight. Oh, wow. Yeah. To get out of the ground, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Has anybody walked in, like 3 o'clock in the morning and it turned out to be a huge deal for you? Oh, yeah. Fuck, dude. I can't, like, at one point, I was the only, I mean, for years, I was the only 24-hour. pawn shop in Las Vegas and I was on the strip. We used to write 100 pawn tickets at night.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Wow. A hundred a night? A night. Breaking in the cash. Doing all right, yeah. Yeah, the pawn shop I used to go to, man. I had to wake him up every time I went there. They thought it was you again.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I need 50 bucks, man. We take this damn cap corner. But you had, but that's crazy, 100 tickets a night. Yeah. Yeah, no, and like I said, eventually got the show and like, yeah, I've had a very, very story at life. Because, like, owner to pawn shop on this trip, you get to meet every class of society. Right, right. Rich people, poor people, pimps, fucking, just tweakers, just like a little bit of fucking everything.
Starting point is 00:10:13 That's what Democrats envisioned. Diversity. Diversity right now. Wow. What's the word is something somebody ever brought? to your shop. The craziest thing, some guy came in with seven human skulls in a duffel bag. Well, he was a damn Nazi?
Starting point is 00:10:30 No, so apparently, this was his story anyway, that he was at this auction, in like the Midwest was a dental school, and they were just auctioning off a whole fucking warehouse full of shit. It was just buying blind boxes.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And apparently, apparently, at the school, they used to use real human skulls to teach with. and when he opened up the box I'm going like dude like you know in the show where I do we say like let's go do some paperwork I literally fell out of we fill out some paperwork and we download it to the Metro and we download it to the FBI yeah like even if this shit's legit dude you know the shit storm this would cause me yeah right yeah so yeah not cool I'm also special about the schools would he like I don't know they're just fucking human skulls
Starting point is 00:11:20 He thought he had a gold mine there or something like. Dude, you're fucking creepy, dude. What did he look like? Did he walk him by himself? Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's just some fucking kind of. Does that the guy right there? He really come across these too often or not. No, not that guy.
Starting point is 00:11:35 No, he was never on the show. No, they didn't make the cut, right? No, no, family show. Yeah, right. Behind it, I guess, was to show what a tough guy you were. Who wants to mess with a guy with a bunch of heads on his neck? Yeah, being said. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I really don't know much about it. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's, yeah, that's, yeah, that's, I think that turned out to be fake. Oh, really? Have you guys been to the, the Golden Tiki? No, no, no. Oh, dude, you've got to go in there. So, like, if you go in there, I guarantee you, they'll make you a shrunken head of you. Really?
Starting point is 00:12:10 Okay, no, so. Sound like a nice, yeah. The entire bar is full of all these shrunken heads, and they look like shrunken heads, you know, like the stitches in them, everything like that. And it's, they're all over the place. It's all Las Vegas celebrities is like shrunk. heads all over the place. Definitely a weird place you need to go there. Yeah. The Golden Teague. So the guy that brought in the nine schools,
Starting point is 00:12:28 what was he asking for? I don't know. Dude, I just told him like, you know, they just kick rocks, dude. Yeah. I get you $10 a head. That is crazy. Yeah. That's more headache than they were, because if they're the police have got to investigate that. Yeah, I know. It would turn into
Starting point is 00:12:46 a shit store. I mean, even though it was legit and I guess it's fucking legal. I don't know. But like, I'm just who's going to buy it, though? I'm sure there's a creepy fuck out there that would want to buy them. Yeah, you know what I do. You've met every walking... You guys probably know somebody who would buy them, yeah. You got some friends, there's some people in your past going, yeah, he'd probably buy them.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Yeah. Yeah, what's your biggest deal since running a pawn shop? I'm sure you got a lot of them. Most expensive deal ever? That would be like Max's wife. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:22 That was a dumb question. Yeah. No, I mean, like, well, it's a, it's a, you know, when you, when you buy it and sell an art and other things like that, I mean, the bigger the price, you know, the smaller pool of people you can sell it too. Right. And it gets to a point with like anything over 200 grand, I'm not going to mess with because you're just talking about rarefied error and it takes a long time to sell it. Like, I can put my money elsewhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's hard to flip $200,000 painting there.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you can do it, but like, yeah, it just takes time and, yeah. A lot of hair. More money, more time. Right, right, right. What turned out to be when you, can you give me an instance where somebody brought something? You like, man, this is worthless and it ended up being, like, worth a lot of money. Well, I mean, that's the weird thing about the show.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Because, like, as far as reality TV goes, I'm probably the only real show that's reality TV. Because, you know, like, there was like 20 shows copying me at one time. I watched a little bit of all of them. Yeah, don't she hate that when people do that shit? Oh, no, it was, it was kind of a joke because they were just all so fucking bad. You can tell it was all scripted. But my show, I mean, like literally,
Starting point is 00:14:32 so every morning when we're filming, I get like 50 sheets of paper. It's got like a two-inch by two-inch picture of it. That's a little they'll give me. And a description of what they think it is. So every morning I'm going to like, done it, done it, done it. This is really fucking fake. Let's crush his dreams. and then my producers,
Starting point is 00:14:52 you'll be going like, no, they're coming from the East Coast. I don't want him to travel that far for you to destroy him. And then, but then, you know, I'll say like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:14:59 this is pretty cool. I have this film this with Chum and bring in like this expert because they'll probably need one. And, but every once in a while, I mean, I think,
Starting point is 00:15:07 you know, I'm thinking this is fucking bullshit. And they come in and like, oh, fuck, I think it's real. Yeah, it happens all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Yeah, what's this fascination with Pokemon cards? Fuck, I have no fucking idea, dude. It's fucking. cardboard. I mean, it's just, I don't fucking, I mean,
Starting point is 00:15:22 maybe it's because I'm 60 years old. I just think it's, it's just fucking stupid. But hey, you know, people love it. I don't get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I mean, you got people paying a million dollars for a fucking piece of cardboard. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's crazy. Like, I understand the whole
Starting point is 00:15:37 collectible thing when it comes to sports member of beer, but a Pokemon card? I mean, because when you buy something, okay, you buy a collectible,
Starting point is 00:15:46 you know, and you're buying the story. Right. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I mean, if you got something, you know, Ty Cobb, Emmett Smith, something like that, there's
Starting point is 00:15:54 a story behind it. Right. Right. What the fuck is the story behind a fucking Pokemon? You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. This is the Pokemon with the fucking, it farts gold or whatever. The fuck, like, it's the magic one in the game.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Yeah. Farts gold. Like, I remember the Cabbage Kids, they had a little run. Those stupid, ugly little freaking Kevin practice kids, those cards. It was like really weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah. You ever offered somebody some money just like out of pity? And then it turns around. No, no. I mean like, like, you're doing my favorite. I came up with this saying a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:16:36 A pawnbroker of the heart is a pawnbroker out of business. Right. Yeah. Well, let me rephrase. Let's say you, has there ever been an incident where you get somebody like, let's say 30 bucks? And it turns out, it's worth like a $100,000 or something.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Anything like that? Well, no, because if I bought it for 30 bucks, I probably thought it was worth 50 bucks and like, you know, hey, score. Because there's been plenty of times where I paid 500 bucks for something and got nothing out of it. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:02 The business side of things, like when you offering people money for a pawn, if they're like selling outright, well, how do you base that number on... Because you want like a 3x margin, at least, right? Well, no. No. So if you bring me some gold coins, I'll make 1% off you no problem.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Bring me a couple hundred thousand dollars with the gold coins. Bring me a million dollars with the gold coins. I'll make 1%. It was 1% of a million bucks is a lot more than 0% of a million bucks. But the gold coins, literally, you know, I buy them off. You go, hey, dude, I got 265 ounces of Cougarance. Just I'm going to sell them. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:43 All right, good. Wear the money in my account. I'll ship them too. it's that quick. No, but if you bring me in, like, some painting, that's pretty cool. And, like, I could probably get 20 grand out of it. But I got to find, I got to find a customer for this thing. So it might be sitting on the wall for two or three years.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And I'll give you five grand for it. It's going to be sitting around for a while. So it just depends on how fast I could market it. Do you deal with, like, the crypto stuff, like NFTs or anything? Oh, fuck. No, I mean, like, you know, from the get-go, the NFTs. And, I mean, I still don't believe in crypto. I think it, well, I'm in crypto.
Starting point is 00:18:16 I lost a lot of money since Trump went in all. But NFTs and things like that, I think a lot of that is money laundry. Yeah. I think that's drug dealers exchanging. What the fuck can you buy with a Bitcoin? Oh, you can buy a car, a house? Yeah, Bitcoin is not. See that, Bitcoin's like the rare cryptocurrency.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Okay, so like you got, all right. There's a lot of fraud and crypto, but when it comes to like. Okay, because I stopped at Starbucks in the way here. Okay. got me my mocha frappuccino right yeah right okay so if i want to pay for that with bitcoin okay you know i got to wait for the transaction to go through which could be for a couple hours yeah okay or unless i pay like 20 bucks and gas fees so i just paid $27 for my uh yeah right right which makes zero fucking sense to me right and another they're saying well like you know
Starting point is 00:19:04 it's not regulated it's this that and i'm more like yeah i kind of you know it's like decentralized or whatever i like my centralized fucking visa car because if someone fucking steals it I ain't got a, I don't lose no money. Right. Somebody steal your Bitcoin, you're done. Yeah, yeah. Someone steals my, like, my ATM card or something like that. I ain't out no money.
Starting point is 00:19:21 They steal my Bitcoin. I am fucked. Right? Yeah, that's, yeah. Yeah. So it's no, you know, I just don't see no advantage to it. Oh, I think, uh, Bitcoin, I think it's going to replace the dollar. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Yeah. But the people that buy Bitcoin, you term like that, if you're using it to pay for your coffee. It's like a store value. It's like a store value. It's not a store of value because the price fluctuates so god damn much. It's volatile. But that's how you make your money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Yeah. And then if you're out somewhere in the fucking Internet's down, you're broke. Not Trump? You know how much Trump? I was looking at a post. He made three quarters of a billion dollars. Off his cryptocurrencies. Of his cryptocurrencies.
Starting point is 00:20:05 God bless Trump. Yeah. I mean, I would do some disgusting shit for that kind of money. Yeah, I remember when Bitcoin was $1,000. I was like, that is a scam. Yeah. I mean, I still don't believe in it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:23 We'll see how it all plays out. Yeah, because people sit around and say, well, like, you know, well, the dollar's not backed by anything. I'll go, yeah, the dollar's backed by something. You've got to pay your taxes and dollars. And if you don't pay your taxes, you go to jail. That's what the, yeah, that's what the dollars backed by. I just, you know, maybe I just, like I said, I don't fucking get it.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Maybe it's because I'm old. Yeah, probably, probably. Yeah, I like big piles of gold and silver. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, most people do. Yeah. But you got to get you some Bitcoin, man. If you got gold.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I'm fucking cool, dude. No, he's good. Just give him my greenbacks and gold. So you got to be a big Peter Schiff fan. Yeah, to a degree. I don't believe in everything he says. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This guy like...
Starting point is 00:21:11 He loves gold. He hates Bitcoin. Oh, no, yeah, he loved me. But, yeah, he's, you know, like, if Peter Schiff, I mean, he's been, for like, fucking 30 years, you keep on saying the same thing. You keep on throwing that pitch. You know what I mean? He was right about the run of the state market.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Eventually, one's going to go over the fucking plate. Right, right. A broken clock is right twice a day. That's correct, yeah. Yeah, do you have any relationship with Trump at all? No, I'm friends with Derek and Don. Let me see You need to sit down and talk to them about crypto
Starting point is 00:21:46 They may get a crypto You know Trump has called me You know he like called me last year Out of the Blue You know You know I
Starting point is 00:21:58 Like a week after the inauguration He came down to Spoke at Circa And he had totally meet with me And Dana because he was in a hurry I know I've sat I've had dinner
Starting point is 00:22:09 Trump for like Sat next door for two and a half hours And having dinner with them so yeah yeah I met him once briefly at a meet and greet with the at the um the rally at one of his rallies you got down to eat with him huh
Starting point is 00:22:21 fucking asshole so I mean I got plenty of great stories he called me once he called me once to apologize he apologized to me Trump never apologized no so this was great this was like 2018 and there's a rally at the convention center because
Starting point is 00:22:40 uh uh there was some He was having a rally here. And, you know, his staff called me up. So, you know, because I've announced him plenty of times at like rallies and stuff like that, go a little speech. And so they wanted me to announce him. So I brought my son down there.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I brought my daughter down there. A couple friends. I told the White House staff everybody I'm Briggin. And, oh, hey, how's it going, everything? They go to walk backstage. And the Secret Service guys are like, hey, it on the list. But it's Rick Harrison. He ain't on the fucking list.
Starting point is 00:23:09 And then they threw me into the public. And I was just getting mobbed. It was insane. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, a lot of people. Remember we're supposed to meet Trump that first rally we went to, he said, no, he's not on the list. COVID's going around.
Starting point is 00:23:23 He's now on the list. So they threw us back out in the public, and we were taking like a thousand pictures. Got said, fuck it, I'm leaving. So what happens, see, is he, so I drive back to the pawn shop, dropped my daughter, actually had a truck there, and my friends out there.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And then my son who was like 16 years old, was like really butter because he told all of his friends he's going to meet Trump and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was really fucking pissed off. Yeah, well, it's too. We both were. So, you know, I lived at Red Rock Country Club at the time. So I'm driving up 95.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I'm about to, and I get a call from Senator Heller. And, you know, he knows I have no fucking filter. I'm like, dude, like, dude, like, what the fuck, dude? He goes, like, dude, like, you know, we screwed up. Like, come back down. the convention said they closed the roads dude president's town I can't get back there yeah right right and I was sort of like end of it
Starting point is 00:24:18 so I was so pissed off I dropped my son off at home I'm not gonna go to red rock I'm gonna go to fucking the bar I'm gonna fucking have a drink because I'm pissed but I get like two blocks from the house and like there's fucking senator heller's pops up on my truck again and like so so like Dean knows me so it was like
Starting point is 00:24:36 Rick before you say anything the president of the United States would like to talk to you and Trump gets on the it's on the I'm driving him trying to go like, uh, Rick, I just want to say, I'm sorry. I mean, the White House staff is my staff. They screwed up. That means I screwed up. That means it's my fault. I'm sorry. Please come back down to the conventions that I really want to see it.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Yeah. I'm going to like, I don't know how I'm going to get there, sir, but yeah, I'm not going to say no to the president of the United States. So, you know, but I'm only like two blocks from the house. I turn around, grab my son's like, get in the car. The president wants to show up there. So, so I'm blowing down Dazardin. And I get another random fucking phone call. and answer it like, hello, this is such and such with the Secret Service in Washington, D.C., the head of the Secret Service in Washington, D.C., I got the head of the Secret Service detail in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:25:22 We have the under sheriff on the phone, and we have the secret, the president's staff, the big guy said, get you here. Oh, wow. And they go, what are you driving? I go, like, I'm driving a Grey Ford Raptor, and what are you at? We're going down Desert, and they go,
Starting point is 00:25:34 when you get to Decatur, stop in the light, whether it's red or green, flash your headlights. I don't know where, like six cop cars come out there. Call me up, so it's like, follow the cars. My dad, my son's going, dad, who the fuck do you know? But I got us there, and my son got his president, my picture
Starting point is 00:25:51 of Trump. Oh, cool. So it ended out better that way. That was a great experience for you and your son. Yeah, it was for my son. It was absolutely amazing. Yeah. Yeah. My dad is cool. My dad is shit. Yeah. TV stormed meeting the president? Yeah. Get the escort. Yeah. Yeah, I think who called us?
Starting point is 00:26:10 I forget the fucking fat. called us. But he said, sorry. I don't mean, fuck you. Fuck him. That's the whole reason why we went to the rally so I can meet him finally. Because we have been at several rallies.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Yeah, and we could finally meet him. And then that happened. And I was like, man, you're doing this because I'm black. What are you going to say? Next time he's in town and a rally. Give me a call. I'll make sure you get to see him.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Cool, I'm holding to do it. Yeah, we got to meet him at one time here. Yeah. He seemed like a very genuine and nice guy. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:26:46 He's a great guy. I mean, I got a lot of great Trump stories. So, like, we were filming in Detroit for like three weeks. And it was during the whole strike and everything like that was going on. So Trump was coming to town. So I tell my producer, she's my partner in my production company, everything. You want to meet Trump? She's like, fuck, yeah, want to meet Trump.
Starting point is 00:27:08 So we were at this little event, and everybody at the front of the line, they go, I just wait here, everyone goes to take their picture, and then we'll go see him. And I walk around the corner and Trump goes, Rick Harris, the one guy more famous than me. And I look at my producer, told you. Yeah. Y'all got a lot in common. Y'all both had really great reality TV shows.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's a bit. Wow, 22 seasons, man. It's 22? Yeah, 22, about a film, 23. Wow. And it just, it's just a gift that keeps on giving. Yeah, yeah. Wow, 22 seasons, man. That's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Most shows, no matter how successful they are, maybe eight seasons? Have a show 22 seasons. Yeah, I've got 750 episodes somewhere right around there. We can't even figure out how many episodes I got. I even fucking asked Grock. And Grock couldn't figure out how many episodes I got. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I mean, because, like, you try and looking up, and I talk to the production companies and all the other things, and no one's got the same number. Yeah. Wow. Because how long did y'all film? Y'all would just film continuously like three months? Like back in the day, like 2011, 2012. Yeah. We'd film 100. We've, I think 2011, we filmed over 100 episodes. Oh, wow. So you got like episodes that haven't even aired yet. Oh, no, like I got, um, no, because I've been some going on for some, for six over 16 years. The, uh, I think I got, right now I got like five or six left in the can. We're going to start filming some more. But, uh, it's also kind of like this. You got a motorcycle show or, or I, you got a motorcycle show or, or I, I think I got a motorcycle show or. car show there's something so much shit you can do to a motorcycle right before it goes really stupid right yeah why is the one show where it's truly different every episode right right right yeah it's like forensic files somebody's getting killed a different way of him because uh i think forincip i think's one of most successful reality shows is she you got to be up there uh i probably am like i said it's i've been doing this uh november i mean in december will basically be 17 Yeah. Do you think you'll be getting a star in the Hollywood walk of fame?
Starting point is 00:29:14 No, they don't like me down there. You being a Trump support and all? Hey, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. Do you get out of pushback? Oh yeah. Like, uh, I had so many, like, like, when I came out to support Trump at 16, like so many people were, like, like, especially like agents and stuff like that, like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're gonna lose so many endorsements. I used to do commercials for Microsoft. Mm. Mm. Yeah, I don't get hardly, I don't hardly any endorsements at all the States anymore. That's crazy. Well, you go to Mexico and you can get a Rick Burger at Carl's Jr. that doesn't make any sense but I believe it
Starting point is 00:29:47 yeah it doesn't make any sense the Rick Burger no yeah not get any endorsements yeah it's a family show but they pull not because of the content because of your politics it's it's the craziness of fucking Hollywood and shit like that yeah
Starting point is 00:30:02 yeah I remember that's what I call a damn you got a family safe show family content everybody can watch it everybody let's pull my product from your your show because I don't agree with your opinion. That is nuts. Meanwhile, you can have some other, like, you said these other stupid leagues lip tarts
Starting point is 00:30:18 that believe in the crazy shit in the world. Right, right. And they'll have them adores their stuff all day long. Yeah, yeah. And I feel the pendulum coming back, though. Yeah, I hope so. Because, like, basically, just, like, it just, there for a minute, it was just getting so stupid.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Yeah. It was like living in South Park. cartoons like this is really weird how everything's getting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I mean, like, you couldn't say anything to anybody because everyone's feelers were hurt and all this other shit. Yeah, yeah, and I don't believe in that. I got six kids.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Right, right, right, right, right. Like, what was it? Like, right over, like, right over a year ago, I'm talking to my daughter, and she'd been going out with her boyfriend since, you know, they've been living together. And she's fucking, ever since she was a freshman in college. And I was like, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:07 you know, when is, Trevor going to like, you know, put a ring on it. She goes, I don't know. Like, you know, like, I'm going like, you want me to say something? She goes, yeah, I want you to be full dead. Wow. I'm like, okay. So like a week later, I'm talking to him.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Like, dude, I just want to know when, you know, you know, what am I going to start calling you my son-in-law? So the guy who fucks my daughter. Right. You know, I've noticed that about kids these days. Like, like, when I was in the military, the woman I met, I got a pregnant. First night. She's a virgin.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I get her doing the sub-so-hury thing, right? And she gets pregnant. One shot, one kid, she's all right. I said, man, I get married. Then, you know, when I got divorced, first day after I got divorced, my wife said, we're going to go get married. It was just the thing to do to get married.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Now people don't treasure that anymore. Yeah, no, it's just everything is so weird. I mean, like, all these parents want to be their kids' friends. Yeah, you can't be your kid's friends. Yeah, you got to be a parent. And, like, you know. I'm learning that the hard way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah. Oh yeah, I got dad was My dad was actually a drill instructor for a few years Oh yeah That was my fucking childhood Yeah, no I mean like literally when I was a kid like Yeah
Starting point is 00:32:17 I did the dishes I'm ready for inspection No no you never did anything Everything you did you demote the lawn You made your fucking You cleaned your room You did the dishes It was always you were ready for inspection And you always failed first inspection
Starting point is 00:32:29 No matter fucking what Yeah Yeah Yeah he broke out the white gloves Yeah Yeah My dad was like I mean he He was like the perfect dad, though.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I mean, he was that 70s dad. You know, like, we remember when I was 16 years old and all full of testosterone and said, like, fuck you to him. Yeah. So when I fucking woke up off the floor. Yeah, dad, it will beat the shit up. Oh, yeah. Fuck, first time he ever hit me in the face. And it was like, you know, they just looked down to me like old enough to talk to me like a man, I'll never get your ass beat like one.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Different generation. And you know, it's just this soft. Fuck, I don't get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Because you guys buy all this crap for me, I'll put it where the sun's don't shine. Oh, that's dead, huh? Pretty good, huh? Oh, my God. I wouldn't feed this to my worst enemy. Nowadays kids eat rice cakes. Rice cake. No, rice cake.
Starting point is 00:33:28 It ain't rice and it sure's hell ain't a cake. You're thinking. Well, no. You're assuming which makes an answer. side of you you forgot the me part god i was fucking out there yeah i know yeah i think you i'm like oh my god 27 times think any phone it could mess with you yeah the old man was great yeah his best friend for like 30 years was i got him for 10 grand Charlie duncan from the coasters really yeah so it was weird like literally two guys
Starting point is 00:33:59 that were thick as thieves for 30 years was a black dude from motown mm-hmm and my dad they're redneck from north carolina yeah but but like literally they hung out for 30 years there's the south right there yeah everybody sounds as xane yeah yeah we we are from uh i think i told you mornsville yeah we got a racetrack you're at the uh montsville 500 yeah he probably ain't into that shit my dad loves race car yeah he's freaking he always talking about rich a petting that damn rich petty did it again and he used to go to raise with my uncle joe man he loved race cars and and we grow very poor.
Starting point is 00:34:39 We only had one TV in house. Every Saturday, we look at the damn cars going to run the track. I'll say, Dad, what you watch it? Like when the race is about the end? You just watch these damn cars go around the track. It would be crazy, but...
Starting point is 00:34:51 Yeah, I mean, NASCAR, you watch the last three minutes of it, you're cool. Yeah, yeah. Not daddy, you turn that TV. Oh, man. Oh, hell, Brooklyn. Yeah, yeah. Here's our new giveaway.
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Starting point is 00:35:28 Yeah. Yeah, I remember we was trying to picture show. Remember that? Yeah. We was going to go see all these production companies. Mm-hmm. And everybody was gay. I swear to God, Richard.
Starting point is 00:35:40 We showed up, it was a damn black. Who was in his one room? It was a black couch in a corner. Yeah, it was two gay guys. Two gay guys, and he stared at my crush the entire time. And I was like, you know what, this shit's not working out. Yeah. I gave it up.
Starting point is 00:35:53 I was like, it's just, Hollywood is so weird. Yeah. Usually I'm not at a loss for words. Yeah. I was like, man, everybody's gay. Like everybody. Yeah, we saw all these. different production companies and nothing ever panned out women's gay to men's gay
Starting point is 00:36:14 that's like even a pet's gay i'm like everybody's gay i was like man yeah just uh uh dude i i mean i just don't get cal i mean like they just fucked up paradise i mean that's basically you know like these i mean like when i back in the day it used to be fun you go down to venice beach hang out you know what i mean a bunch of weirdos and everything now and it's just now it's just tweakers and fucking betball fucking everything you know and like that's what the end it kind of I'm just assuming that's what they want I've been a week to Venice Beach yeah yeah because I states down in San Diego
Starting point is 00:36:48 MCRD I'm stationed in Tustin I love San Diego I love that city I'll tell you word about California the world is beautiful the economy is great but man that costs a living man it would it would chew you up and spit you out every two weeks man I was especially I just when I when things turn around for us financially I'd say I'm getting the hell out of here I went back home to Virginia then I found out Virginia turning to California
Starting point is 00:37:10 then it's like, man, I'm going to Vegas. Yeah. This is the greatest city of the world. The one city left, but everyone's like, I don't give a fuck what anyone else does. You know, if you're homeless on the strip, you're going to be gone in like fucking two seconds. Right. Yeah. You know, this,
Starting point is 00:37:25 dude, you can literally, you know, you can go fucking eat amazing food 24 hours. The food is crazy. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like, you live anywhere else. We're like, oh, in three weeks, there's three weeks or two months from now there's this concert like this out of here like who do you want to see this weekend right right right yeah a lot of things open 24 hours a day
Starting point is 00:37:46 it's like man you can never you could actually eat at a different restaurant every day from the moment you was born and you still won't eat at every restaurant it's just the food here is so vast yeah diversity that's the only kind of diverse I really like are you still shocked it to stuff people bring in your shop um yeah it's can kind of get fucking weird. Yeah, like, it's just, people just find the weirdest shit everywhere. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Yeah. And, no, I mean, like I said, that's why the show keeps on going on. I keep on, yeah, you can never,
Starting point is 00:38:18 is endless material. Yeah. You never get bored of it, yeah. Yeah, because of humanity. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like today, I got a, you know, I walked in the shop today and like, oh, like,
Starting point is 00:38:29 what we bought this morning? Like, a 19, a 93 bulls pendant. Really? A bullspinant. Oh, well, so,
Starting point is 00:38:37 you know, they gave out the rings. Right. But like your wife, if you want to one for your wife or like your girlfriend or something like that, they gave you a pendant. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Wow. So you can come to the world famous gold silver pawn shop and buy it for $30,000. Only truck could come in there about that. Yeah. No, so like, but that literally came in today. I was looking at one of your episodes, a guy found a bronze medal from an Olympian,
Starting point is 00:39:06 but they didn't know what it was about. bought or anything, the origin. So they said that dad passed away. No, I get that shit all the time. They're going like, fuck, found out of the fuck. Yeah. And we're like, yeah, what kind of gangster was your dad? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:17 Right, right. So do you have like World Series rings? I got World Series rings. I got, uh, I probably got like 10 rings in the shop right now. World Series rings, Super Bowl rings, things like that. Which one is the most precious you think? Fuck, I don't know, whatever I can get the most money out of them. At my phone somewhere, I got, like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:40 God, someone texted me a picture. Someone, one of my, one guy I know, it goes, I finally got like, you got some sports ring. Like, I texted a bag of picture with a ring on every finger. Yeah. Wow. Hey, you ever get any porn stars, like trying to trade in some crazy shit they used? And you're trying to get money from it?
Starting point is 00:40:00 Well, I think that'd be worth. I can honestly say I've never fond of rubber dick. We was thinking more along. of like a movie. Oh, okay. So what's that fucking award that awards they get out in town here? Avian or something like that. Someone came in on the night shift once and fucking sold their Avian award.
Starting point is 00:40:18 What? I swear to God, I think I still got it somewhere. How much you give for it? I think he gave like a hundred fucking bucks for it. But it's for best alternative movie. Really? Yeah, the name of the movie was Bush. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Yeah, but someone actually pawned their Avian award. Yeah. I remember episode, somebody had the original Batmobile? Yeah, I've had some, I think I filled with it. Yeah, yeah, we filled with Babopo, yeah. Yeah. You can't even remember all these episodes, huh? How did you get clients on that?
Starting point is 00:40:54 No, because everybody wants to be on the show. And here's another thing. People always want to be on the show, and they don't necessarily want to sell it to me. They want to advertise it, which pisses me off sometimes. Oh, right. Oh, okay, I see. I see. They want people to know they got it for sale.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Yeah. Yeah. So that happens. That ends up happening a lot. Mm-hmm. But, you know, but with, you go off on?
Starting point is 00:41:13 No, I've gone off on motherfuckers before, yeah. There's been plenty of times. Someone coming in there and they're like, and that, because you always get that, it happens one or two, two times a season.
Starting point is 00:41:22 You get that person like, seemed like a personal norm, then the camera turns on and then they just want to be a fucking asshole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. You know, they think they're going to be all cocky and cool.
Starting point is 00:41:30 I'm going to like, yeah, like, you're a fucking dick. Get the fuck out of it. But, but, No, dude, you came in here. You were supposed to sell something.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Now you're a fucking asshole. I don't kind of put it up with you later. You're not going to be on TV. At anterior motives. Yeah. Was that a Batmobile? I think the lowest I'll go is 15,000. I mean, it's the Batmobile.
Starting point is 00:41:50 So do you know anything about it? It's a replica of one. Yeah, that was a movie with Mike and Tee. A friend of mine got it on the internet. I mean, but what kind of douchebag drives around the Batmobile? Let me take a look at it. I don't know, dude. It's definitely a Democrat.
Starting point is 00:42:08 It's like a fucking, like that fucking Plymouth Prawler. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, who they'll ever drive that? You got to be some douchebag to drive that. Yeah, it's just, I can make it run. So it runs. Then he didn't have any money to pay me for it.
Starting point is 00:42:25 So I decided to, you know, say, well, hey, just give me the car. Batman is one of the... It's taking them too much room, too. Yeah 1939 The original film Yeah So what y'all got up next for the show
Starting point is 00:42:50 Y'all doing filming now No we're going to start It looks like we're going to start filming Probably into October Next season I got my podcast I'm doing right now Doing a podcast I got my production company
Starting point is 00:43:01 We do a bunch of different stuff I got my bar on my restaurant on the strip Got a shopping center on the strip Like I said I got the pawn shop because 1,500 people a day. And I do tons of overseas commercials. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Okay. I've done in Latin America all the time filming. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. That's awesome. Which is the hardest filming you do in the world because I don't speak Spanish or nothing like that. I mean, I barely speak English. So it goes back to your Rick Burger and, uh...
Starting point is 00:43:28 Yeah. So like, you know, you got to remember your lines and stuff like that when you're doing a commercial. But then... But I don't know when the fuck they're done because I don't know what they're saying. It's like, you know, but I'm like, have you tried to learn Spanish? No. That's shit. You got to have dyslexia to learn that shit.
Starting point is 00:43:47 No, because, like, no, I can, you know, I'm really hard at hearing. Yeah. And, yeah, it just, I got a metal block where I tried to look here. You get some Mexican dude screaming at you how to say certain words, there's got to be. No, no, so, you know, they ended up it over everything I say. Oh, really? Yeah. I mean, I don't even know why I got to remember the lines.
Starting point is 00:44:05 I mean, they just got to. covered it anyway. So when you started your show, it was some production of company that filmed it. So, okay, so I was pitching this show for years. And so, and then it was really weird because I had to deal with HBO, but that fell apart. You know, I was stuck with them for a year and I couldn't pitch it into anyone else. Then right after that expired, I had these two kids come in the pawn shop. Right out of like film school.
Starting point is 00:44:31 I mean, they literally just went to Circuit City, but their little... Circuit City. Yeah. I'm known with Circuit City. This is back of the day. The circuit city camcorders, like, no, we just graduated film school. We think a, like, a reality show about a pawn shop, be really cool. I said, like, yeah, I'll film with you for a little bit, but I can sign a dick.
Starting point is 00:44:50 And these poor kids, I mean, they're like, they had no idea what Hollywood's like. They made up, like, 100 DVDs and set about to all these different production companies. This is a great idea we had, okay? And we know how fucked up the whole entertainment industry. Right, you steal everything. Yeah, yeah. So, like, yeah, oh, yeah. Oh, I got a great idea.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Yeah, so when they come in, I got a great idea. Yeah, if they get to DVD, now it's their idea. Exactly, yeah. So a bunch of different production companies were calling me. I went production company in Lefield Pictures in New York called me up. And I don't know if that's how they got to me or not. But they were going like, this was in November of 08. They said, we're going to, like, in February we're going to be in town.
Starting point is 00:45:28 We're looking at doing some reality shows with wedding travels. We thought a pawn shop would be cool and everything like that. Well, yeah, yeah, that's cool. But, like, God, what was? NBC Universal, I've been talking to them and they want to do something because like two years earlier I bet it would deal with NBC Universal
Starting point is 00:45:44 and the long time they said to Fort Back guys in a punch up. And but you know, so I started dropping names from NBC Universal and they're like let me call you back. For 15 minutes later they call me back, we could be their Saturday. So then, so we do
Starting point is 00:45:59 a sizzle reel. And then after that it was like Kismid like the stars aligned because, you know, this was a really small production company. I mean, I don't even tell what they had anything on here at the moment. And so, you know, and you've got to go through like nine layers of BS at a network. There's a lot of bureaucracy. So they go into like the lowest person with like back then a DVD.
Starting point is 00:46:21 And they put it a DVD player, a DVD player broke. This was at the network. So they had to get, they literally had to get the DVD out with a screwdriver. Okay, and they started walking up and down the hallway. Anyway, we got a DVD player we could use. The vice president of A&E network says, yeah, you could use. mine. So they put it in there
Starting point is 00:46:39 and like the lower whoever was they were looking at me Vice President of A&A Networks goes I like it, get a pilot. So it skipped all the layers. We did the pilot. They liked it and then they had some really bad programming
Starting point is 00:46:53 that was crashing so they put me on early. Yeah. And I was the number one rated premiere in the History of History Channel and that's because I think they were going through their cable guide and thought it said something besides Pond Stars.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Right. Right, exactly. And, I mean, it just took off after that. Now it's your own production company, do you guys all the famine? Or? We're still working on that in the next season. Who's going to do that? Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:20 No, but, yeah, it just keeps on going. It keeps on giving. Wow. And now I'm like YouTube, I mean, I get a million different revenues on it. Yeah. I'm on 38 different languages. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:47:37 And I'm broadcasting over 150 countries. That is wild. What's crazy is the name of the show in other countries. Oh, it's not pawn stars? Because the pawn stars, porn stars thing really doesn't translate great in other countries. So like Spanish. Well, fat guys in the pawn shop, right? So like in Spanish countries, it's the price of history.
Starting point is 00:47:58 In Japan, it's American Treasure Hunter's Appraisal Team Pond Stars. Wow. What? Yeah. In Italy, my favorite ones in Italy, it's the family business. The perfect thing. It's like a mafia. Germany, it's three kings of the pod shop.
Starting point is 00:48:13 There's a bunch of every days for it. Wow. Well, congratulations, man. Yeah. Yeah. It's been good. Yeah. No, hey, no, like I said, you know, I'm a guy with,
Starting point is 00:48:24 and I'm a guy who dropped out of the 10th grade. So, like, yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, I sort of kicked out of school in 10th grade. They kicked you out. No, I was a kid with epilepsy. They kept getting sick and they get too many absences.
Starting point is 00:48:36 literally this is back in that way back a hundred years ago. Yeah, yeah. It just basically told me like, oh, you're never going to graduate. Sign this piece of paper. You go. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Oh, that's crazy. That wouldn't happen today. Oh, no. Yeah. No, now there'd be lawyers and shit like that. Yeah. But, uh, no, it worked out good for me, you know. I mean, like, uh,
Starting point is 00:48:55 I mean, even when I was in high school, you know, I was making like two grand a weekend. Because I was, at 16 years old, I was the first person of Vegas with bony Gucci bags. Really? you're a hustler huh yeah
Starting point is 00:49:10 how did you kick your hands on those so I you know I found this one guy here in town that had like had some and I bought him off and it was fucking great so then I figured and then I heard about
Starting point is 00:49:20 the garment district in L.A. where they sell knockoff shit of everything so I went there and started buying him and then after like three months of doing that like some eight I'm out set up to swap me and got all my bags out there
Starting point is 00:49:30 and then like some Asian dudes like two booths down from here selling his Gucci bags for like half of what I pay for them and then so then then that That fell apart. So then back down to the garment district, I was looking for cheaper bags.
Starting point is 00:49:40 But then this guy is rolling this cart, which would obviously fake Jordash jeans. Yeah, Joe, dude, dude. Well, dude, dude, yeah. No, so I've always hustled, yeah. Yeah. Well, you think you got that entrepreneurial spirit from? Oh, fuck, I just love money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Yeah. Well, and also my dad, like, you know, like I said, like 12 years. I had to start working when I was 12 years old. Mm. Oh, great. Because my dad, at 12 years old, you're too old to get allowed. It's quite according to my dad. So my dad would not buy apartments unless there was condemned stickers on the doors.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Really? Yeah. So like every weekend and all summer long, that's all I did was work on apartments. Yeah. Like a buck 50 a fucking hour. Yeah. Yeah, because my dad, well, no, my dad would explain how he pays my rent and pays my power bill and everything like that at 12. So you've always been self-employed?
Starting point is 00:50:31 Oh, yeah, no. I mean, roofed my first house at 13 by myself. By the time I was 16, I could wear a house or anything like that. That's all from your day, huh? Yeah. I mean, you know, I think it was like 27 when I built my first shop. I built my first shopping center, but then I got busted for not having a contractor's license. Where shit would people get arrested for?
Starting point is 00:50:55 Just trying to work. Like for me to register. It actually really worked out for me. Yeah. Okay, because this might sound counterintuitive, but I have my tweaker little brother, like even an eye on the job site, which like I said, doesn't make sense, but kind of at the moment. Yeah. Okay. So when they showed up to bust, you know, he's calling me up and what are we doing? He'll just take the ticket, say you were fucking doing. He goes like, dude, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:51:17 It's, you know, it's just civil. There's no criminal. I'll pay the fine and I'll give you a thousand bucks. Right. Okay. Yeah. So it's funny. He goes like, so like he goes to this hearing or whatever like that. He goes, yeah, they were kind of shocked. I go, yeah, I'm guilty. They go, you know, you can't get a contractor's license for two years. Yeah, I'm cool. You took it for you. Yeah. Yeah, that was like over 30 years ago.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Yeah. Do you think the work ethic in the kids of the day is like... Oh, it's fucking terrible. It's gone, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's like everybody's so entitled this today. You know?
Starting point is 00:51:53 No, you know, it's pretty. Like, even like my youngest daughter, like, you know, uh, I mean, I'm, I'm, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I guess you're going to be selling t-shirts at the pawn shop at the weekend. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And then like my, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:08 my son, he's 16 years old. I'm not, well, it's summertime. You're not in school. There's car washes. Right. Right. So, you know, he worked the whole summer, Fabulous Freddy's.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Yeah. Like, when we was growing up, that's what gave us that entrepreneurial spirit because our dad had, like, he was a barber. He was self-employed. And it's like we grew up so freaking poor. And we kept getting fired from jobs where people would hire
Starting point is 00:52:33 us and then YouTube started that's like the absolute worst working for somebody because they never will pay you what you worth or never treat you what you worth yeah well no because I you know I've seen both ends of it because like you know my dad was making fucking great money in the fucking and then the like
Starting point is 00:52:47 1979 1990 comes along he's from like broke we fucking move into Vegas okay we're having to fucking park the car like three blocks away and take fucking switch out license place on it from the repo guy oh I've been there yeah I was doing that yeah we've been there
Starting point is 00:53:02 I had them chasing me in a truck truck. I'm like, man, this is crazy. Right. I've been at both sides of spectrum because when I was like 20 years old, I was repo in cars. Right, right, right, right. Okay, talk about, I mean, that is like this is the most serious rush of your entire life. Throwing a car? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Because you're kind of like stealing their car. It's legal, but you feel like you're still in it. Yeah, I know. And people, that's people's livelihood, man. You can lose your life throwing someone's car. Well, what's the crazy shit you seen when you was doing repo and cars? How long were you doing it? in that? I did that for like a year.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Yeah. Pretty dangerous, right? Oh, yeah. I had fucking guys chasing after me and shit like that. Yeah. No, like high speed fucking chase down fucking Sahara. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. I used to work for this the credit company when I had caused toad and shit.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Man, that shit was crazy. The instances you were getting to. Crazy. I did lost prevention for a while. Knives, guns put on you. It's like man. Well, I mean like I dealt with that shit for so long with the fucking pawn shop like tweakers and they're trying to steal shit Yeah, things like that. Yeah, so people try to steal stuff coming into the pawn shop. Oh yeah back in the day. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, soon learned they should go down the fucking street where they don't carry guns. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah's the worst place to rob. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no one's ever robbed us. I mean, one guy's ever robbed us. I mean, one guy's, only weird thing ever happened was like, uh, there was like, uh, there was like eight guys in line at the fucking compounder and one guy, and like one of my guys looked over this guy's hold the fucking knife in his hand like shaking like shaking like they. And like next thing you know, there's like four guns in the guy's fucking face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Yeah, yeah, you need to leave, dude. Yeah. It's like robbing a police department. Robbing a punch. Well, a lot of that's going on up in L.A. you see these smashing grabs they're doing up there? Like jewelry stores and stuff like that? You haven't had anything like that down there?
Starting point is 00:54:48 It's not going to have my place. I got security right next to the door. Yeah. I got like, you know, there's six or seven guys in there. They've got guns on their hips. Yeah. They're not shown, but like, and then, yeah. I was on Gutfield and they were asking me about that.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Like, yeah, it's going to end fucking badly for it. Yeah, this ain't L.A. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and we don't have, yeah. Yeah, we got Metro here, which is like a real fucking police force, yeah. Right, right, right, right. Yeah, we, Trump actually took Nevada this last election. And it's like, I think it was the first time in 20 years.
Starting point is 00:55:25 20 years of Republican took this state. Do you think this state is swinging Republican or? I think, I mean, I think everyone's just realizing that all the Democrats, promises are fucking bullshit. Yeah. It's the whole socialism, fucking insanity, stupidity. Yeah. Show me one fucking country where it's worked.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Yeah. You want to see failure of socialism. Look at every, like, Indian reservation in this country where it's basically socialism. It doesn't fucking work. Yeah. I think that Democrat party, man, you got to blow that thing up and start all over again because they're part of you. They call them liberals, but it's all.
Starting point is 00:55:59 It's not the liberal about the party. They're the most intolerant people. Yeah. Okay. You know. You know, and just look at their history. I mean, it was like, uh, they were the one, they were the party for slavery. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Uh, I mean, it's just every fucking thing about them is just, I mean, you look at like, fucking what is. Adam Schiff or whatever his name is. Right. I mean, you just look at this guy and you go like, yeah. Oh, they're, this guy's got fucking issues. He's fucking weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Just a wheezer. I mean, it just, he just looks greasy and evil. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're pushing out Gavin Newsom now to run for president, I think. Yeah, because everyone wants their country to be just like California. Yeah. That's going to work out just great, right?
Starting point is 00:56:45 So we could have nationwide poop maps. Yeah, man. Have you been to San Francisco the past couple years? Not last couple years, no. Oh, dude. I mean, the poop thing. real. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Mm. Yeah. Just walk around and it's poop everywhere. I mean, there's poop on the floor. I mean, like, I mean, they just fucking drop trial. And, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:11 So expensive. But nobody gets to survive. Yeah, I know. Yeah, no. I was up after I was a private investigator. I got lost. I drove through Oakland. I was about to shit myself.
Starting point is 00:57:23 I was like, man. Oh, that's the poop map? Yeah. That is crazy. How do they keep track of it all? Yeah. I think there's an app where you can report poop. Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:36 That's a lot of reported poop. Just imagine how much poop in the black areas. It's color-coded. Yeah. Like the light brownest light poop. That dark area, there's poop all over the place. That is nuts. I mean, you need like glosses if you live there.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Yeah. No, it's a... It's just... They took a beautiful city and they destroyed it. Have you always been... been a Republican? Yeah, basically. Yeah, I mean, like, you know, like, you know, I just basically kind of a libertarian guy.
Starting point is 00:58:07 I just like, just stay the fuck out of my way. I mean, like, I got 80 employees. I pay him pretty good, pay a big chunk of the medical insurance. You know, I try to be really good to him. And as far as the Democrats are concerned, I'm a dick. You know, I'm a bad fucking guy for some reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's because you're white, you know.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Yeah. You're all bad people, I guess. I love white people. I don't see what the big deal is. man without white people who didn't even have America no but like
Starting point is 00:58:36 no I mean that's the way the Democrat they literally like if you create anything you're a bad fucking person yeah
Starting point is 00:58:42 yeah yeah like AOC what the fuck is she ever created but the dumb women yeah no I mean I was like what the fuck is she ever created
Starting point is 00:58:53 you know she was a bartender yeah she went to an Ivy League school too that which is scary which is crazy Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:02 The stuff that comes out of mouth and you went to an Ivy League school. It goes to show you what they're teaching these kids, man. They're not, they're not educating them. They're not teaching them critical thinking. They brainwash them. Well, it's like my 22-year-old son, he was like after the first semester of college, because, Dad, I hate it. All I hear about is all like, uh, every bad thing in the world is because of me being a white male.
Starting point is 00:59:21 That is. I didn't think the world would be better if a majority of the population of America was black? I'm getting the hell out of it. As long as they weren't Democrats. Yeah. Those are few and far between. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:37 This scares me how far the left is gone over the last, say, 10 years? No, no. They've gone to, like, I mean, like, kind of off normal to, like, fucking bat shit, fucking crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like. And you would think they would learn from this past election, but they're doubling down. They're going crazier.
Starting point is 00:59:58 It's like they can't, they don't have the capacity to learn from, their mistakes? Because they got this tiny little sector of the Democrat that they listen to and they think that's everybody. You know, I'm just telling you, like, you know, because I've told, you know, like, even Republican politicians, like,
Starting point is 01:00:15 fuck. You know, I've told them like, you know, you know, I've been on, I've been reelected like 20 some times, you know, you know, television is a rough fucking business. Yeah, I know how to talk to the American people. Yeah. You know, they're out there commercials saying,
Starting point is 01:00:29 hey, my politician believes in fucking abortion at nine months. I think that kind of makes him a doucheback. Exactly. No, no, I couldn't do that. Well, that's what'll fucking work because your fucking really, really lame fucking Instagram ads with just a fucking sign sucks. I saw this one father. He was crying and he said, I voted for a Democrat because I want to ensure my daughter has the rights that her mom has.
Starting point is 01:00:50 I was like, what the hell did you just say? Women haven't lost any rights. We're just regulating it, which how long, how long you can do those things. So a big fat woman that nine months came. Why will her ass and get an abortion? Yeah. No, it's insanity. You know, and they just, they just, they just keep on doubling down on it.
Starting point is 01:01:12 And I just think it's fucking crazy. And like, you know, there's a re-capitalism, okay, is the reason why we live in the greatest country of the world. I've been everywhere in the fucking world, okay? I've been to Kowalampur. Don't ask me why I just showed up there. Okay. And everybody wants to come to the States. Everybody wants to come here.
Starting point is 01:01:31 No one else thinks this is an evil, terrible company. They all want to come here. Right, right. And I do a lot of public. I used to do a lot of public speaking. But one of the things I used to talk about is, you know, why is this the greatest country in the world? Okay. So in 18, like, and I use this example, so in 1850, the number one, the watch capital of the world was London, England.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Probably 80% of the watches in the world were made there. They were all pocket watches because there wasn't rest watches, so there was just watches. And but right around that time, inexpensive machines. tools popped up. And little watch company started around the United States. Okay? By 1890, the best watches, hands down, in the world were American watches. As a matter of fact, they were so good that, like, Swiss watch companies and English watch
Starting point is 01:02:15 companies were trying to put American-sounding names on their watches. Okay? And that's why Congress had to pass a law saying the origin of the watch had to be at the dial. And the English watch company was done. The whole industry in England had just faded to nothingness. That's because it took 17 different unions to make a watch in England. Wow. 17 different, you know, but in the United States, anybody could do it.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Like, you know what? You're a little watch shop. You can start up doing what you want, and you don't need 17 unions. Right. And that's why anybody could do anything in this country. Right. To be good in this country, you've got to be competitive. Without the competitors.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Like you said out there in Great Britain or Union and the King and whatever, that it was too much overhead too much red tape. When you cut that red tape, business is thrive. Look at me because like, you know, like I said,
Starting point is 01:03:04 ninth grade education and I understand when it's like to be poor. There's been times of my life where I couldn't afford the down payment on a sandwich. Right, right, right. And I was able to do everything
Starting point is 01:03:13 I've done. Anybody can do anything. Right. I remember we just living out of our car. We got out of the Marine Corps. We broke. And the cops was fucking with us every day.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Because he's seen this old beat-up Cadillac. They felt where it's gang. members. I was like, man, I'm a good guy. I just got out the Marine Corps. They said we fit the description of a murder suspect. They said it every time. I said two of us that looked just alike. I don't know how many times I got put out of my car gunpoint. Eventually I said, man, I got get it out of here. Well, no, after a while, he's like, oh, yeah, no, they're cool. Don't mean, you're fine. We got the hell out of testing. Those cops was ruthless.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Tustin, California. Those cups. Tuscan. Tustin. Tustin. Tustin. Tustin. Tustin. T-T. T-U. U.S. Tustia. Orange County, Tustin, California. Yeah. I thought you were like saying Tussin. Yeah. Tussed. I didn't pronounce the T-N. Aside for my subs of her and tone. Tustin. Yeah, Tustin. Yeah. I was saying Tussin. Yeah. All right, man, you know, this has been a great show. Where can everybody find you?
Starting point is 01:04:21 Well, the world famous gold and silver pawn shop, 713, Las Vegas Boulevard South on the fabulous Las Vegas strip. GNSPond.com. You can buy all kinds of crazy stuff there. And Pond After Dark, that's my new podcast. You guys should be on it. Oh, cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Yeah, you're here in Vegas. Yeah, yeah. We'll make that happen. We'll make that happen. Yeah. You guys got to meet Chumley. Oh, cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:40 He's a comic genius. Oh, really? Yeah. I mean, like, all this shit that comes out. I mean, that just flies out of his mouth. I mean, like, yeah. Don't ever get in an argument with him because he will bag you into the ground. No one is better than him.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Sounds like my kind of guy. Yeah. Hey, thanks a couple. All right. Thanks, man. Nice meeting you. Nice meeting you. That's a damn good show.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Yeah.

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