Hodgetwins Podcast - PODCAST CLIP | Hodgetwins & Andrew Tate Discuss Israel and Ben Shapiro...

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

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Ian Carroll just went on Joe Rogan and spoke about a lot of the issues that, you know, they're happening in the world today. And he's still getting called a sinus agent. Yeah. And Mossad. I get called Mossad. Have you guys been called Mossad yet? No, just straight Jew haters.

Ah, all right. Well, you're doing good. Because I've had that team turn on me. Right. Yeah. Because you're never based enough for the Ann-on account on Twitter who has nothing to lose, right? Right. So you can mention certain things.

You can bring certain things up. But if you're not 1,000 percent mentioning it all the time. or it's all you talk about, then they turn on you and call you a Mossad agent. So supposedly, I work for the Jews now, funnily enough, even though I literally risked my life defending Palestine on Pierce Morgan and gone a whole bunch of trouble for it. But then they asked me something else, and I must not have answered the way they wanted, and then they went crazy. So there's not very much nuance in these arguments either, which causes a huge problem and a disconnect,

because, yes, I agree, there's a huge problem with Israeli influence over the American government. There's a Zionism. There is a huge problem with it. There's no doubt about it. I think our conservatives, and Republicans, we suppose we are pro-life Christian. Yep. What's happening in Gaza is not pro-life and is definitely not Christian. I don't know why we're in bed with Israel, and then we fund that war.

They call it a war, but those people don't have weapons. Yep. They don't have an army. I mean, they have some weapons. I mean, it's like a little posse. It's not a fair fight. Yeah, it's not a fair fight. Yeah, it's not fair fight.

I look at the drone footage. It looks apocalyptic. It truly looks apocalyptic and it's extremely sad. And also, I find it amazing that, like, if you're an average, nationalist or you're a conservative and you believe in the rights to your land and you believe in America to protect your land, then you should understand that other people want to protect their land. Exactly. But they say on illegal immigration?

Yep. What's going on in Israel? Yeah, but they say Palestine never existed. That's right here all the time on social media, especially on Instagram from conservatives. Their place never existence. Yeah, they're ignorant to it all. And it's a long and complicated history. But even if you don't want to go down the entire history of Palestine, Israel, this is what I was saying to peers, because he doesn't even let you fucking

talk. I was like, I haven't got time to explain history to you, but exactly like you said, this is clearly a genocide. What's happening is clearly completely inhuman. Forget religion, forget any of these things. It's inhuman what they're doing to these people. It's unacceptable what they're doing to these people. And it's also the media spin they put on it tells you a lot because when Hamas try and fight back, it's a terror attack and it's barbaric. And when Israel fight back, it's a tactical strike. Right. Oh, tactical strike. That actually almost sounds like it's okay. Have you ever seen the result of a tactical strike? Because all I say is, drone footage yeah i see buildings crushing children we call it a tactical

fucking strike so again it's all about the language they use and how they frame everything right it's it's truly incredible and it's you see that video that trump uh posted can you put up that video um you put up an a i meme of trump's gaza yeah like trump stands on gaza like turn into like this oasis for the jews i was like dude that is tone death you put this up on i think it's yeah i've seen it yeah Trump Gaza's trying. Right. So how does it stop a lot of killing?

Would you argue? I think it's a lot calmer now than it was before. So maybe I'm wrong. You know, maybe I, and maybe this is why they call me a fucking Mossad agent now. But I give Trump the benefit of the doubt that at least he stopped the killing for now. At least that's stage one, right? It's everything's incremental. Is Gaza ever going to look like that?

Fuck no. We all know that's never going to happen. But he sought the killing at least at the beginning, which I think is the first, the best thing. If Kamala had one, which you would argue are supposed to be the left and the pro-Palestine, etc., the killing would still be going on. Because Kamala, there's no way Kamala would stand up against a deep stay in the warmongers, which is another thing, which is going to get me in trouble, but we're going to talk about it. We talk about females. Yeah. Why I don't believe women should be in leadership positions in most cases is because I don't believe women are competent enough to lead because I don't believe women are brave enough to put themselves on the,

line. If, when Trump gets to call and they say, do this or we're going to shoot at you and he ignores them and they shoot at him, that's a leader. If Kamala got that call, you think she's going to risk taking a bullet? Fuck no. So you can't even put women in positions of power because they'll always bend and break to the shadow, the shadow power that we don't even know exists when they call her phone and they start telling her her address and telling her what they need. She's going to do whatever. Yeah, a woman, a dude ran on stage with Kamala and just took the microphone from her. She just gave it to him. Yeah.

She looked so weak. Leader of the free world. Yeah. Exactly. So what's interesting is all the left and all the liberals and all the pro-Palestine guys, which even though I'm completely right and conservative, somehow are you aligned with the left on that issue, they wanted Kamala to win because they thought that Gaza would have been in a better position. But I would argue right now if Kamala won that Gaza would still be killing.

And Israel still be killing. She wouldn't have done a fucking thing. So at least Trump stopped it. Is that video tone deaf? Yes. But then also, again, I'm a benefit of the doubt guy. I kind of have a benefit in the doubt guy

I kind of think you know Trump's doing amazing things he's doing his best isn't it possible that like Trump busy he's on Air Force One he's 78

and one of his aides go hey we've got video of the new Gaza it's gonna be like a resort we're gonna put it up on your Twitter yeah yeah yeah

and he's you know it maybe you know maybe did he design it frame for frame right probably not I don't know is it tone deaf yes but I'm just glad

the babies have stopped dying because those videos were truly fucking heartbreaking really truly heartbreaking Back then when that stuff was going on, there was a cloud of darkness in the air. I couldn't smile for a while. It was truly sad what was happening. And the world is a fucked up place.

It's amazing also how we go through life, especially us in the Western world and we're so largely disconnected from violence. We forget how fucked up the world actually is because violence is actually the only underpinning of anything. Violence is why anything works. the reason any of the laws we have out here work is because if you don't obey them, you'll get a ticket. If you don't pay the ticket, you go to court. If you don't go to court, police come. If you don't obey the police, they get violent. So we've just managed to put all these layers on top of violence that makes people to comply with complicated systems.

But in other countries where they don't have the time, the energy, the effort, or the resource or the organization to put all these complicated systems on top, it's straight to the bottom line, which is violence, right? You go to Afghanistan. No, they don't give you a ticket. They wave an AK. Now, really, is that any difference? different. Let's actually analyze. Is getting a policeman's ticket any different than having an AK waived? Not really. There's just a few layers of

separation so you haven't got to witness it. And we get to sit and say, oh, we're to our society. It's not violence. We live in a civilized society. No, violence is the underpinning of everything, everywhere. Andrew, what's that beef between you and Ben Shapiro? Oh, there's no beef with me and Ben. I just, you know, there's no beef in me and Ben. I don't think he's a particularly good person. I think he's a warmonger.

It's never ending. Especially if you support what's going on in the gathering. Oh, yeah. His stances on God's that were unforgivable. He is currently going broke because he lost Candace and he lost Brett Cooper. And now the Daily Wire is going into, I know from, I've heard from many sources, they're about to go into administration and they have problems with Peterson. Even Peterson and him are about to get illegal battle. Oh, wow.

Oh, really? Yeah. Daily Wire is completely fucked. They're completely bankrupt. It all started with Candace. Oh, of course. You can't get rid of her. She was their star. And then who's the owner of the Daily Wire? He's a really, he's a really, he's a really, he's a really, he's a really, he's a really, he's a really, interesting person. Yeah, what's his name? Jeremy Boring. Yeah, Mr. Boring.

I'm going to start a media company. But Mr. Boring's media company. Going to be a success. So you got that dipshit. Yeah. I think Ben's a bad person. He was super pro vaccine, which I was ultimately against. He's against Trump, too. He was against Trump. And he's also a warmonger. You know, I guess

it's just somebody. I mean, I've had 87 professional fights. I've done my whole fighting my whole life. I finished retiring from fighting and now I'm fighting against governments all across the world. I've done all of my fighting myself. And when I see somebody sitting behind a desk with a microphone calling for other people to go fight when he's too much of a pussy to ever fight

himself, I intrinsically just don't like him. Didn't he vote for Hillary too? Oh yeah, fuck he's a dipshit. Yeah. And he's constantly calling for men twice his size to go and die. You go. Yeah. You go fight. But of course, what do we say about short people? What do we say? He's a snake. He's a fucking snake.

So I don't, I don't trust him. And I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. And I also think that... It sounds like you got a, y'all got a beef. I mean, Ben was one of the main people that brought me over to conservative. Him, I'm having a brain fart. Kenneth Owens. Kenneth Owens. Larry Elder.

Yeah, Larry Elder. Well, the thing is with Ben, like, he had a lot of videos that used to go viral where he'd destroyed the trannies and stuff. And that was cool. But somebody said to me, like, oh, you agree on that? Like, who doesn't agree that mentioned chop the dicks off? Like, fucking, you can go down the convenience store, find a motherfucker agrees with that. Everyone already agrees on that.

But the actual important issues, it seems he's wrong every fucking time. Yeah. Yeah. And you would think he, like I see him doing videos like criticizing the LGBTQ community, trans community, but in his religion, they embrace that. The Talmond is supposed to have eight genders, isn't it? Exactly. So why are you on YouTube and TikTok and doing all these videos criticizing going viral for speaking out against these people when your religion embraces it? Well, even then, even from a personal perspective, he has a huge problem with me because 12 years ago I used to have a webcam studio, which I've talked about at length and explained at length. and I'll talk about again anytime because it's my history. And I'm not apologizing for anything I've ever done ever.

While he's still getting paid from A-PAC, which takes money from OnlyFans today. Yeah. So, like, he pretends he gives his shit about these things, but he's actually just super hypocritical. And I just don't like hypocrites. I don't like people who are warmongering. After October 7th, when he was saying,

destroy them all, kill them all, annihilate every single one. I took it underneath him. I'm like, bro, let's at least look for peace, at least. Right. It's just a mark of a coward. Like, it's kind of like they say, why do pro fighters not getting street fights? Because we've seen how bad fights can go.

Whereas like if you've never had a fight You think you're a tough guy Because you don't know how bad fights can be So he's one of them right He's one of them who's never seen violence Never been around it Would never go near it Would piss his pants if he ever had to

Total coward Trying to talk like a tough guy calling for violence If he'd ever ever seen any He'd know better But he's not educated to it So I just think he's I think he's a negative voice in the world Who's calling for death and destruction

And thank fuck his voice is going broke And him and Mr. Boring are about to lose the daily wire Who? I mean I don't know Like, travel America, try and find somebody who's giving them money right now. You must be about your fucking mind. He gives a shit what they say. You can't pay me to watch their shit. I don't even know what he says anymore.

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