Hodgetwins Podcast - "Republicans Are Going To Get DESTROYED In The Midterms!" - Tucker Carlson
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I got a question I want to ask you about Trump and
his family and MAGA supporters.
Like when I think of MAGA, I think of
blue collar, white,
hardworking Americans,
guard-faring, rural areas.
They served in the military.
Their kids are serving in the military.
How do you explain them embracing someone like
Trump who dodged a war and Trump's family
who's never enlisted in the military?
Like, Byrne's not enlisted in the military.
Why do you think there's such a strong allegiance
from this base of voters for people like the Trump, Trump and his family?
I think there are a couple of reasons.
I mean, I'm one of them.
I'm not from a working class background, hardly.
But I like a lot of, I mean, Trump's voters are like still my favorite people by far in this country.
They're great people.
I live right in the middle of them.
Most honest, decent, patriotic, loving toward their families.
Right.
Just great people.
Why did they fall for Trump?
I fall for Trump? Well, a couple of reasons. One, there was a masculine energy there.
Nations need a masculine energy. They need the feminine too. It's a balance, of course.
But they need masculine energy. Masculine energy is the energy of creation of rules, of standards,
or principles, universal standards. It's not arbitrary. It's abstract in some sense. That's a masculine
energy. Dad's home. You violated the rules. You're getting punished. That is the statement that restores
to the household. And increasingly, our leadership class is emasculated. It's unhappy women and
castrated men. And everyone feels this, by the way. I don't think women like it any more than men like it.
In fact, I think women really hate it. But whatever, that's where we are. So Trump shows up.
And in his kind of defiance and craziness and grabbing by the pussy vulgarity, which is disgusting,
of course. But it was also read by a lot of people. It's like, oh, finally there's a man here.
And he's a pig. Right. A lot of men are. But like at least there's a man.
man, finally. You can't look at Joe Biden. No, I'm serious. Right. Right. Countries need men.
Families need men because, and they need women too, but it's a balance. We're totally out of
balance. And just like you wake up and everybody's gay or like gay adjacent or something.
And even if you're like, I don't, I'm not mad at the gays or whatever, which is how I've always felt,
always been pretty liberal with the gay stuff. It's like, you really want to live in a country
where everybody's gay or sort of gay? No, it's crazy. And all of it's crazy. And all of
sudden like it becomes treacherous and caddy and it becomes exactly what you think it would be in a
country where everyone's gay right so i think trump was a relief from that okay second i think people
suspected for a long before i even knew like i was very late to a lot of this stuff but they
suspected that it was a rig game and that both sides were colluding against everybody else and
they're absolutely right trump has proved that paradoxically but trump seemed like an alternative
Like, and the way you knew that Trump was sincere in his desire to drain the swamp is that the swamp tried to put him in prison.
And they created this whole fake J6 thing to make sure he could never run again.
And J6 was fake. Sorry, totally fake.
And a lot.
And the document charges that they charged him under and the Mara Lago raid and all this stuff was all fake.
Right.
And everyone can see it was fake.
It was totally fake.
And they, you know, whatever.
And so if he's being attacked.
in a real way by the swamp, he's clearly not of the swamp.
He's clearly an alternative to the swamp.
People voted for Trump not because they love the Republicans,
but because they were dissatisfied with the Republicans.
Trump wasn't a Republican.
Trump took over the Republican Party
and made it into his own image.
And that was why people liked him.
They're like the party of Mitt Romney
versus the party of Chuck Schumer.
That's the same party, dude.
And Trump seemed like an option.
So I think that's why.
Why? Plus he's hilarious. He's hilarious. He's hilarious. He's the funniest person ever. So that helps, I think.
Yeah. All the money's made in his second term and like the crypto scams and his sons on all these boards getting government contracts.
And they got, you know, mans and shares in these companies. Why do you think Maca still supports that when they were so adamantly against Joe Biden and his family and his son for doing pretty much the same thing?
but what Trump and his family is doing,
it makes them, it makes 100 abundantly like a choir boy.
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You know, I don't know what MAGA is exactly.
I've never understood that.
Maga is whatever Trump says it is, I guess.
I think a better way to think about it is,
of the people who voted for Donald Trump in 2024,
how many are dissatisfied with what they're seeing.
And that would be 100% of the people I know who voted for Trump.
You know, they may not hate Trump.
I mean, I think there's a lot of residual affection for Trump.
I mean, I couldn't be more disgusted by Trump's betrayal.
I couldn't be sadder about the grave damage he's done to the country.
And I still kind of like the guy because I can't help it.
So there is a deep well of affection for him personally, his lunacy, his stream of consciousness, comedy rants.
Like, everyone likes that stuff.
Let's be honest.
Or at least I do.
I always did.
So they're disappointed.
They don't hate him.
And by the way, they think the left, you know, the whatever, the angry girl party and the Democratic side, they know they don't want that.
So it's like they're kind of betwixt in between.
But what percentage of people who voted for Trump in 2024 feel let down or betrayed a lot?
So that's the real MAGA.
You could say, I'm MAGA.
No one even can define it.
Did you vote for Trump in 2024 or didn't?
Yeah.
And if you did, you're in MAGA, at least as it was originally.
defined. And I think a huge percentage of those people feel really sad about what's happened.
What do you think is going to go down in the midterms?
I mean, I think the Republican Party is going to get spanked like the bad little girl it is.
You know, I mean, of course. I mean, of course. The president's party always, almost always
loses some seats. But the Republican Party is pathetic. It's craven. It has no dignity.
It doesn't even speak for itself. The Speaker of the House is like the weirdest, creepiest,
most dishonest person ever and he's not even a man enough to be dishonest or creepy openly.
I mean, whatever you think about Lindsey Graham, at least he's like out there defending his insane
homoerotic positions, right? But someone like Mike Johnson, who's literally the number three guy
from the presidency, he's the head of the Republican Party in some ways in the Congress, that guy,
it's like, would you want your kid to grow up to be that? No, of course not. The whole thing is just
contemptible. It's contemptible. The question is, what's the alternative? And I don't,
see much of an alternative. I mean, I really don't. I mean, there's some really pathetic people
on the Republican side. There's some truly freaky people on the Democratic side. I think the whole
trans thing was mostly an op, really. On the other hand, there are a lot of people a Democratic Party
who sincerely believe or feel compelled to pretend they believe that a man can become a woman
just by wishing it. You're mentally ill if you think that. That's like, that's actual crazy stuff.
So I don't know.
We're about to find out just how crazy the Democratic Party is
because they're about to take over.
And it's Trump's fault 100%.
It's 100%.
Just like make a good faith effort to do what you said
you were going to do.
And people will be grateful for it.
I mean, people gave Trump so much latitude anyway.
Right.
You know, he ran on build the wall.
He didn't even try to build the wall.
They're very defensive if you say that.
No, you didn't.
You didn't do anything to build the wall.
And there's no wall.
So shut up.
So those voters who vote,
who voted for Trump in the first race
and then voted for him again eight years later,
like they forgave him that.
And they're always happy to forgive Trump.
So he didn't even have to do that much
to retain the loyalty of his voters
because they wanted so desperately to like him.
And he did it.
You know, he did the one thing that you couldn't do,
which is just like waste the lives
and the money of Americans fighting someone else's war.
It gets too much.
Are you familiar? I follow a guy's name is James Carville. He's a Democratic strategist, and he's been going on these rants about Trump and when they take over into midterms. Do you see any, the Trump family or Trump facing any thing that will be considered against the emoluments clause in the Constitution?
I don't know.
I mean, I know James Carville very well.
I worked for them for years, traveled the world with him.
I know him really well.
And he's a, there's a lot of good about James Carville.
But he's just a partisan.
He's not a serious person.
It's just like my team is better than your team.
Oh, shut up.
Nobody cares about your dumb team.
Your team sucks.
What matters is America.
You know what I mean?
And like, there's no vision for making anything better.
I mean, Carville would defend.
it doesn't matter right you know geoffrey dommer became the democratic nominee it'd be like no we're for
cannibalism now it's good fdr would have approved it's like it's so stupid that whole way of thinking is
so stupid it's like here are the obvious problems that the country faces drugs are right up there at
the top employment right up there at the top prices of everything especially housing right up
there at the top what's your plan for that no plan then shut up you know it's just like it's
just a power struggle between rotten, shallow, small-minded people. And I think a lot of Americans
get that. As for what happens to the people in Trump's orbit, once he loses power, you know,
I don't know. I can, I've got a terrible track record of guessing. I will say that as long as he
keeps, I mean, the number one most important thing in D.C. is staying aligned with Israel.
And if you're not aligned with Israel, then they do to you what they did to Massey and MTG and
Grand Platner.
If you stay aligned with Israel, they make a bunch of noises, but ultimately you're fine.
And that really is kind of what it's about.
I didn't used to think that, but I've just watched for so long and watched pretty carefully
and known a lot of the people.
It's that.
You know, one of the most famous people in the Democratic Party for generations was the chairman
of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, a guy called,
J. William Fulbright's senator from Arkansas.
He wasn't quite supportive enough.
And the Fulbright scholarship was named after him.
He was like this famous guy in the Senate for generations.
He gets sideways with Israel.
They just funded, you know, a primary opponent.
And he's gone.
1974, he's gone.
So that is it.
You know, stay in the right side of Israel.
You can do whatever you want.
Carvel told me that as a young man.
I said, why are we, what are we doing with Israel?
And he goes, you want your kids to get into college?
Shut up.
We were sitting on an airplane flying back from San Francisco.
I'll never forget it.
I was like, really?
He's like, yeah, really.
So, and Carville knows exactly how the system works.
He's really smart, actually.
I can confirm that.
He's really smart.
Right.
Even at 83 or whatever he is, he's really a smart guy and he's been around forever.
And Carville knows that you can't criticize Israel, which is why he doesn't criticize Israel.
I think he secretly thinks Israel's disgusting.
Most people do.
But that's the game right there.
in one sentence.
And so I think as long as,
and Trump knows that, of course, also.
You know, you just stay close to BB
and, like, in the end, you'll be fine.
What does that say about our country?
You don't even have to hate Israel,
and you certainly don't have to hate Jews,
which I don't at all, and I never will.
Right.
To say that that is disgusting.
It's humiliating.
We have no sovereignty.
Why don't have to suck up
to your stupid little genocidal country
in order to live peacefully in mind?
I shouldn't have to do that.
It's not hate, by the way, to say that.
It's the opposite of hate.
I just want dignity in my country that my ancestors built.
Right.
