Hodgetwins Podcast - The Forbidden Technologies They Don't Want Us To Know About | Twins Pod - Episode 38 - Ashton Forbes

Episode Date: November 8, 2024

What the hell happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370? Ashton Forbes knows. He breaks it all down for us on this episode and the truth is crazy as hell! Unlimited Energy, Teleporting, Warp Speed, and more! We going down all kinds of rabbit holes on this one! Get your Twins merch and have a chance to win a 69 Camaro and 10K in cash - https://officialhodgetwins.com/ Get Optimal Human, your all in one daily nutritional supplement - https://optimalhuman.com/ Bet on anything at https://www.mybookie.ag/ and use code "TWINS" to win Double on your first deposit! American-made, top of the line knives - https://dmoknives.com/ Want to be a guest on the Twins Pod? Contact us at [e-mail] Download Free Twins Pod Content - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_iNb2RYwHUisypEjkrbZ3nFoBK8k60CO Follow Twins Pod Everywhere - X - https://twitter.com/TheTwinsPod Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thetwinspod/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/twinspod TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@twinspod YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdg Rumble - https://rumble.com/c/TwinsPod Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/79BWPxHPWnijyl4lf8vWVu?si=03960b3a8b6b4f74 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/twins-pod/id1731232810

We got Ashton Forbes in house. What's up, Hodg twins? How are you guys doing? I mean, you look smart. You've got to be looking smart when you're talking about teleporting airplanes and fusion, right? Yeah. Okay, so Malaysia Airlines, like 370, planes flying and fucking disappears. Right?

Yeah, just completely disappears off the face of the Earth. And these orb spinning around it here, you see that zap just happened. Like, when anyone that looks at this right away, they go, what are you saying? That aliens zap the plane? away right here because it's just so anomalous. Yeah, everything's gone. When you mentioned the term orb, what is an orb? Because it looks like a sphere of energy when we look at these videos.

When you see this field around these orbs, this heat signature, you can tell right away that we're not looking at like a metallic structure. Sorry, what the hell is that? So what we're looking at right here is a wormhole. Extremely cold. Yeah, this is an endothermic event. An exothermic event would be an explosion. So if this was an explosion, we'd have to see this white.

hot. This is an absorption of energy as opposed to a release of energy. Right. Is it any chance that people that was on this flight or they alive? I think the whole thing was a covert event. The question you have to ask is who was on that plane. A paper that he wrote for the Air Force

Research Labs called Teleportation Physics Study, 2004. Teleportation physics study. Is that the technology Tesla was working on? Yeah, so Tesla had figured out free energy and J.P. Morgan like the JPMorgan, like mixed it. This is Nikolaj Tesla.

Yeah. And apparently Edison as well was like his competitor. And these guys made a ton of money off of selling energy to people. They're ripping people off. I know that. Controlling people. Yeah. And it's the people that are like super close-minded about it.

Like, nope, that's not possible. I wasn't taught that. That can't be real. Yeah. You're a conspiracy theory. They love to pay me with that one. Yeah, you're a rushing disinformation. They tried to pay me with that one.

They're going to find out that they're wrong. And it's just a matter of time. And the more pig-headed and ignorant they are, the more foolish they're going to look. We've got Ashton Forbes in the house. What's up, Hodg twins? How are you guys doing? Doing good, man. Doing pretty good. I mean, you look smart.

That's why I got the glasses. You know, I can get the LASIC surgery, but you know, you've got to be looking smart when you're talking about teleporting airplanes and confusion, right? Yeah. Tell us a little bit about yourself, your background, your education. Yeah, well, I mean, first of all, this is like a dream come true to, like, be talking at all. all these super, like, famous podcaster people, you know, and I appreciate you guys having me on the show.

Oh, thanks for coming. I'm actually just a business school student at heart, and I've been working in healthcare IT for 20 years, and I would never have expected to have the kind of attention that I have on me now regarding social media, regarding this case. You know, a year ago, I saw what I think are probably the most important videos in the history of the world, which are now being referred to as the MH370 videos. and I just decided to ask the question, what if these videos are real?

Can we prove the videos are real? Can we look into the mystery of the plane? Can we understand the science and the physics that's on display? And the case is just snowballed in the last year where from looking into it and also with the help of this organization I started MH370X, I think we've gone above and beyond in order to prove that there was a major cover-up that happened to this plane

there's exotic technology on this planet that somebody has control of and it was used on this plane and that's why we covered it up so i don't think of myself as anyone special i i hate the term expert and all these stuff that people try to claim to you know appeal to authority and what have you i'm just a regular guy that is in an extraordinary situation and i've applied myself in a way like every day after work i research the plane or the physics and what have you and I'm at the point where not only am I 100% convinced that these videos are real, we can explain all of the aspects of it, including the physics. So that's what I hope to do with you guys here today.

Okay, so Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. This happened in 2015. 2014. March 7th, March 8th, depending on the time zone you use. 2014, yeah. So for anybody that's been living on Iraq for like the last 30 years, planes flying, I guess it's going to Beijing. Yep.

right and fucking disappears right yeah just completely disappears off the face of the earth and right away everybody's wondering what was going on like if people who are a little bit older remember we didn't know like where was the plane when it disappeared like what time there was multiple times being thrown out there for the first few days especially like the search even changed its locations oddly and everybody should just be wondering like how does a Boeing triple seven playing the size of a city block just vanish. Right. These things are equipped with GPS, right?

They have trackers in the engines. Right. We've got satellite. We have, right now, there's 10,000 satellites under the United States military control. That's just United States. Oh, I didn't know that. So even 10 years ago, just cut it in half still 5,000 satellites. Like, can a plane really disappear?

Like, we're not an enemy of the state anymore where we're like looking down through our satellites straight down and it's only real time. Like, it's all recorded. We can look back any time. And the other thing, too, that a lot of people have to realize is, like, planes don't crash without leaving debris fields. Right. Especially in the ocean. Plane crashes in the ocean. All the debris is going to start scattering all over.

You're going to have this debris field, like, tens of miles wide. Right. People are going to be picking it up out of the ocean. You're going to see it in satellites. Planes will be able to fly over and see it. They were searching with 40 boats and 40 planes afterwards. And the official search, search tracts. searched for three years, never found anything. Not a black box, not one seat cushion,

not a body, not a piece of luggage, nothing. And people are going to say like, oh, Ashton, but I heard that they found some debris, you know, like, you know, I thought they found some debris. And it turns out it was just, it wasn't the official search. It was some, like this guy, Blaine Gibson found some. He was featured on the Netflix documentary. But the more important part is where they found the debris. Yeah. Instead of some debris washed up on shore and forget the country. In Africa. Yeah. And this is weird because they use these satellite pings and all the search was like off the west coast of Australia. Right. And they're searching down along this seventh arc base

on these satellite pins and they're not finding anything at all. And all of a sudden a year later, a few pieces of a room. We're not talking a lot. Like if you just percentage it out to the plane, it's less than one percent of the plane. Like it's like I tell people, it's like if you found my finger and you were like, oh, this shows that Ashton died or he was murder. You're like, That's just my finger, man. Like, planes can fly without a flapper on. They can land without a flapper on. So even the biggest piece doesn't prove this plane crash.

It's almost like someone planted the shit there. Well, people say that. So the way I look at is there's two options. Either the satellite pings that led us in the South Indian Ocean are fake or fraudulent or misinterpreted or whatever. Or that debris must be fake. It has to be one or the other. And for me, I just think the satellite pings are fake. there's really no reason to believe the satellite pings are legit because there's no witnesses

that saw the plane there. It's supposedly crashed in the morning as a busy shipping route. We found nothing. There's no other company that said, oh, we also have some satellite pings and we saw it there. And the debris, though, is like two to three thousand miles away. They did these drift analysis before they found the debris. And you can find it on the internet. And it shows that the currents flow to the east down there. The debris should have washed ashore in Australia. And they're like, oh, no, it's in Africa. And we're talking like South Africa and like mainland Africa here. Like I look at the East Coast.

Like it doesn't make any sense. So water doesn't float that way. So it kind of floats up and around. So it can get there. But it would take like two and a half years and the debris is all being found in like one year. And so they do these, they kind of take some wooden boards and they throw in the water to see what would happen. And they realize right away there's no chance it's getting to Africa. And they go, just forget about that.

That didn't happen. And then the Americans give them this flapper on, and they put in the water and they weigh it down so it kind of sticks out of the water. And they go, okay, well, this is fine because the wind will blow it and what have you. And that's the closest piece. And they try to say that that's fine. But even with that one, there's barnacles on the part that's sticking out of the water. How does that? How do you get barnacles on something that's sticking out of the water?

It makes no sense at all. And then they look at the barnacles and they realize there's only four months of growth on these barnacles. Like you're saying it was in the water for like 16 months. How can there be so little? So for me, the answer is this plane either didn't crash at all or it didn't crash at all near the South Indian Ocean. And when you look at all these other investigators looked into it, almost all of them, they base their opinion on the plane crashed in the South Indian Ocean based on the satellite pings. If you just throw out those satellite pings, the story changes completely. And when you look at the map of like where all this debris is and you look at this military base that's in the news right now, Diego Garcia military base, the UK just handed it back over in the indigenous people except for the military base, which the United States and UK are going to control for another 99 years.

It's like a perfect location where the debris could have been thrown in the water, for example, to wash ash ashore in Africa. So a lot of people say, what do you think happened in this plane? And I go, well, there's this military base that's super secret in the Indian Ocean here where nobody's allowed to visit. And there's all this sketchy stuff happening to it. If that plane ended up there and they just ripped it apart through some in the water, there you go. That debris is going to be washing up where we found it. Well, there's some video that we want to show everybody. And I like to get your commentary while we look at the video.

Yeah, yeah. But did you get both videos, Joe? video. You want to watch the thermal? Just watch the satellite video first. Sure. Yeah, so this is the satellite video. Now, this video was published May 19th, 2014.

And a description in it says, received March 12th, 2014, which is four days after the plane disappeared. Okay. So unless this person's lying in their description, like this video has to be real. And you look at it, and we can see this orb come flying in at

like hypersonic or supersonic speeds and immediately start tracking the plane. And then these other orbs come flying in as well. And you see this is a perfect triangle formation. Right. Well, this plane's going 450 miles an hour, right? Probably a little bit slower because it's low altitude. These clouds we see are cumulus clouds.

They're very low altitude clouds. And the plane's turning as well. So this means this plane's actually probably flying pretty slow. It looks like it's actually doing like an emergency descent maneuver, potentially trying to land in the ocean. And these orbs spinning around it here, you see that zap that just happened. Like, when anyone that looks at this right away, they go, what are you saying, that aliens zap the plane away right here? Because it's just so anomalous.

Yeah, everything's gone. Yeah, everything's just gone. And now, if you let it play after this as well, the person that is recording this, like, scrolls over to the right. They, like, to show us, like, this plane didn't, like, just kind of get cloaked or something like that. It's just straight up gone. And the person that's recording this, you saw that cursor just come over the screen right there at the end. this is a screen recording. Like this is not somebody with a camera or something like that.

And also we could tell from the field of view, this cursor comes off the top right and then it goes off the top, bottom left of the screen. I mean, what we're looking at here is just a cropped version of a bigger field of view. Right. That mouse is probably some of the best evidence that's real because it's indicative of a Citric session, which is a remote terminal session, like me logged in on my computer to a remote database. Right, okay.

And where the mouse starts and ends is in the top right off the screen. So you can imagine there's a button up there and says start recording and then stop recording. And that's why it goes dark at the end there. So right away, when you start to look at this evidence, you go, wow, like this looks like somebody who had military access to the database. They reported this. And nobody really knows what our satellite capabilities are like. But I found there's something called the Sibber system, space-based infrared system built by Lockheed Martin. The very first thing on Lockheed Martin's website is they go, global, persistent infrared surveillance.

You're just like, okay, global persistent infrared surveillance. Sounds like they're recording forever. Recording everything forever. And they've got these huge scans where they're scanning the whole globe all the time. And you just go, okay, well, now I can figure out what's going on. It's not enemy of the state. We record everything in infrared. We beam that information down to computers.

And the computers rebuild a map of the whole world, kind of like Google Earth. example. Right, right, right. And the other indication is in that video on the bottom left. There's coordinates in the bottom left. It says NRLL 22. Turns out NROL 22 is USA 189. These are National Reconnaissance Office launches of spy satellites.

And that one in particular is the first launch of the Cibber system in 2006. And I'm just going, okay, well, now this is getting really creepy. And it gets creepier. The coordinates, these coordinates actually accurately shift whenever that perspective changes. It's almost like someone was like holding down the middle mouse button or something and then they shift. And the coordinate shift. One of the first things we were able to do is map those coordinates out on a map. We found out that's the Nicarbar Islands. This is the location where when we looked at those satellite pings from the plane, that's the location when they say, oh, this plane flew back across Malaysia,

flew over to the Nicarbar Islands and then made a sharp turn and flew down in the South Indian Ocean for like six hours. And you're like, wait. So we found nothing in the South Indian Ocean. And you're like, wait. So we found nothing in the South Indian Ocean. And these coordinates in these videos indicate the location where this plane supposedly made this sharp turn into the South Indian Ocean. If you really boil it down, you've got plane disappearing over the South China Sea, odd. Then it's going to Penang, the closest airport you would go to in an emergency.

It doesn't land there. And then it goes to this location where we're seeing these coordinates right here in the Nicobar Islands. And then after that, supposedly they claim it went to the South Indian Ocean when we found nothing. For me, this is really strong evidence where it's like I can start to build like an actual logical

series of events of what happened to this plane. Like something emergency happened when the plane went dark. They couldn't land to Penang for whatever reason. And then all of a sudden, this plane's getting zapped

straight out of space time right there. Right. So the video we just witnessed, you think that the person that was playing with the mouse, you think that was an air traffic controller? No, if that's a spy satellite database, like the spy satellite

secrets are like some of the most closely guarded secrets. There was like a contractor just last year who was convicted of leaking satellite imagery of Africa or something like that. And they were facing capital punishment death penalty just for that. And when you look at those videos, you can start to realize why that would be the case. Because, you know, knowing what our surveillance capabilities are, if we have full-time motion video recording of basically the whole planet and you can pull it back up because that video was not recorded in real time. Like technically they're recording the information in real time, but someone can log into a database and go pull up the Nicobar Islands at, you know,

1840 UTC on March 7th, and then they can see a playback of it, and they can move the screen around however they want, kind of like how Google Earth works, but you can just pick your time. That's what we just witnessed. Somebody going back trying to determine what happened to their airplane. Yeah, I mean, I even think I've identified the leaker as this guy, Lieutenant Commander, Edward C. Lynn because I said, well, wow, we really come down on people that leak this kind of stuff. And if that's real footage and they leaked that, then there has to be some trail, like, you know, some charges that they face or what have you.

So I started just digging around on like Wikipedia of all the names of the people that were charged. A lot of the famous people like the Chelsea Mannings and the Edward Snowdens and stuff like that. And none of them like fit the bill at all. Edward C. Lin, when I got to this guy, and he's completely unknown. nobody knew about him really. He checks every single box. This guy was on this super secret spy plane program called the VPU2 Wizards. He got assigned to it February 2014 right before the plane disappears.

And I've got a quote from his lawyer saying that the investigation began April 2nd, 2014. And you're like, that's a one-month window between when the plane disappeared here. And that video says it was received March 12, 2014, on some random YouTube account that has like a hundred followers. That's one hell of a coincidence. It gets weirder. His lawyer, as another quote, saying that the classified information in question is available on the internet that he supposedly leaked that they came after

him so hard for. They came after him for espionage, which, like, they're trying to throw this guy in prison for life. And it was the first case of charging somebody who's an active duty military member in the Navy with espionage in like 50 years since the Cold War. Yeah, espionage. What exactly is espionage?

That's like we're giving secret to our enemies. They thought that what Edward C. Lin was doing was he was exchanging information with China. That's what they had alleged. It's always China. Maybe he was trying to release the information to the public. Yes, especially if you think, and that's exactly what I would think as well. Because when you look at that, you go, man, nobody's ever going to figure out what happened in this plane unless they see this footage because that thing is gone, right? Like, where is it? And we'll get into the motivations as well more because, you know, if that's you know, if that's, you United States technology that we're looking at there, which I've identified that as like our

most secret hypersonic plasma technology, then China or Russia even seeing that footage, they can reverse engineer and figure that technology out. We would call that technology zero-day technology, which means that the moment you show it to your adversary, now you can't use it again anymore because they can make deterrence for it. They can reverse engineer it themselves. Because a lot of people ask, if we have this, why would we not use it? It's because it's like your Trump card. You don't play your Trump card when the opponent has like a two or whatever, right? You wait until the last possible moment to play it. Right. And this is why the United States government would come down so hard on anybody that leaked that footage because you're like, you just screwed

us over. What if the guy that saw that, he just thought it was aliens and UFOs because he wouldn't know about the technology either. Right. And then the government's like, no, dude, you just screwed up big time. You just told China about our most secret stuff ever out there. Like, am I going to lose some rank? Nope. You're going to lose your life. No, 100%. So they throw this guy in prison and they won't let him talk to the media, even in pretrial detainment. And everything about his case is super sketchy. Like they end up having to admit there was no evidence he exchanged any information with anyone from China. They were actually, they even sent like a honeypot at him.

And they start charging with prostitution. They're like, dude, you're trying to put me in prison for life for espionage and you're throwing a prostitution charge on there. Right. Anybody knows anything about the uniform court of justice? That's a kangaroo court. Yeah. You do many soldiers do not win their case at all. No, 100%.

Like, you know, you have no chance of probably winning, right? If the government doesn't, they want to put you away. So it's clear that they actually abused him in pretrial detainment. Like he's recorded saying that he was mistreated, these goon squad people would like, you know, put him out in the cold and ruffle his cell and what have you all the time. They were clearly trying to get him to like basically tow the line. And he ended up doing that. He took a plea deal.

And so all the espionage charges were dropped. They had no evidence for it. They just got him on the release of classified information charges. And he ended up issuing this statement that was basically like, nobody should do what I did. What I did was so dumb. And when you think about it with context of the videos, you're going,

oh, they told him, like, you just gave away our secrets. This guy was a patriot by all accounts. Like, his family was even saying, like,

he's not a bad guy. Like, why are the government coming at him so hard? And they, so even after this espionage charges go away, they ended up getting him for nine, years in prison, which for just release of classified information, that is way, way too much. People that have similar charges, they get like, you know, a few months or a year. You're getting nine

years. Whatever he did had to be huge. Well, if you're Joe Biden, none. If you're related to the right people in this world, then you get nothing and you don't face consequences. We have a thermal video as well, right? When you mentioned a term orb, what is an orb? Yeah, so what these orbs are. I mean, I just call them orbs because that's how you would talk to, like, you know, anybody who doesn't understand what we're looking at, because it looks like a sphere of energy when we look at these videos. And this here is the drone video.

This is some kind of MQ1 Reaper drone or MQ1C with an aerial surveillance package underneath the wings. And you can tell that the operator here, like this is accurate camera shake. It increases when they're zooming in here. The operator is even struggling to keep the plane in focus. and this would be because of the lag with respect to the operators in a remote location. So there's a little bit of a lag there.

Now, when this zooms in, you're going to see this very distinct heat signature on these orbs. You can actually already see these dark lines. These dark lines are in front of the orbs. That's a huge key that what we're looking at here is not conventional propulsion at all.

And when you see this field around these orbs with this heat signature, you can tell right away that we're not looking at like a metallic structure. This is like a field around something. Now, what I've come to realize is this is something called an exotic vacuum object. This was discovered by somebody named Ken Shoulders. He was an engineer who worked on inventing microelectronics and like some really advanced technology back in like, I want to say the 60s.

Richard Feynman, who of the Manhattan Project, ended up having to apologize to Ken Shelders because, he thought that this idea of these exotic vacuum objects wasn't possible, this state of plasma where they formed these self-regulating, self-sustaining structures. Yeah. Sorry, what the hell is that? Yeah. So what we're looking at right here is a wormhole. This is the first ever wormhole that's ever been visualized as far as I can tell in sci-fi or in real life.

Black hole. Why is it black like that? Yeah, because this is cold. This is thermal. And we can tell it based on the engine. So this is... extremely cold. Yeah, this is an endothermic event. An exothermic event would be an explosion. So if this was an explosion, we'd expect to see this white hot and release. This is an absorption

of energy as opposed to a release of energy. And this is where physics starts to come into play, where you start to realize that what we perceive in our universe as an empty vacuum, you know, of space is not actually empty. Like we are sitting in a sea of energy. Imagine it's being on top of this sea of energy. And in that case, what is it that we're looking at here? We're looking at an extraction of that energy, like lowering the water level of that energy. So this is the part that these videos end up showing physics that mainstream physics doesn't understand. Like Einstein's equations say you can, and like Dirac's theory of the sea of energy show that you can have negative energy levels, but everybody thinks of negative energy as this exotic,

misty purple substance when that's not what it is at all. It's really just a matter of looking at like we are in this equilibrium of energy. Like if you were to get in the bathtub and you get to a point where you don't feel the hot or the cold in the bathtub anymore, but it's still hot. If somebody else were to touch it, they would feel it being hot. That's the reason why we don't feel that energy all around us, but it's there. And we feel it as inertia, which is the resistance when we're moving through space. And you could say that there's also air resistance friction as well. But if you are in outer space, you're still going to feel that inertia.

And the reason why you feel that is because of this zero point energy that's all there all around us. So what you're seeing right there in that video is you're seeing this removal of that energy to a point where it creates a singularity. They call it the swinger limit. When you reach to a point where you extracted enough energy fast enough, it breaks something called the shwinger limit, which I think the energy level density is like 10 to the 33, somewhere around that level. So you get to this level where you create a singularity. Now, the difference between that and a black hole is that a wormhole has no event horizon. A lot of people ask, like, if you were to go through a wormhole, are you going to get spaghettified, you know?

Because a black hole has so much mass that you would get, you know, ripped of shreds, essentially. But in a wormhole, there's been these scientific papers that have come out since about 2020, which is six years after these videos got on the internet. One of the most famous ones is by Juan Maldesina, who is a proponent of this idea of ER equals EPR. like a wormhole is equivalent to quantum entanglement. So it's like the very small is equivalent to the very large. And they say that wormholes are humanly traversable, meaning that you may feel some G-force,

but it's not going to rip you to shreds at all. So this is where, like, even though it seems incredible, it's actually consistent with Einstein's theories of general relativity. And we just have to look at the universe in a slightly different way, where it's not just this empty vacuum of void that has nothing in it. It's actually just this sea of energy. And now, just like if you were looking at a graph,

you can go below zero and you can pull that energy out. And when you do, we see these effects like with the orbs of the black line in front of them. That would be called warp drive. And really the only difference between warp drive and a wormhole is like how much are you energy are you pulling out? If you pull out a little bit of energy, then you're just going to fall forward into that void because that's what gravity is. If you pull out a lot of energy, then you're creating a gravitational ripple or a

a wave that you can just go from one location to the next. And it's as simple as F equals M-A, which is force equals mass times acceleration. If you take that equation and you flip it around, you say, well, A equals mass divided by the force. If you make your mass, or sorry, the other way around, a equals F divided by M, if you make your mass zero, now your acceleration is going to become infinite, our approach infinity. So if you actually get to a situation, where you have no mass or your object, you can accelerate faster than the speed of light. And really, accelerating faster than speed of light just means that from our perspective, looking at it, it looks like it's going from one location to the next instantaneously.

The weird part is if you were that person in that plane or going through that wormhole, for you, it would be like going through a doorway. You just appear on the other side and like no time has passed. But from the outside observer, it would look like you traveled faster in the speed of light. And there might even be a time dilation effect where, like, you show up slightly in the future. Pretty weird, huh? Yeah.

Wormhole, is that synonymous with a black hole? Because you can see these things in outer space, right? Well, I think the big question is, what is a black hole? Right. And because the black hole is this huge amount of mass, as we perceive it, then the event horizon is the point of no escape. When light goes into that region, the gravitational pull is stronger than the speed of light. It makes us a light can't escape.

So the idea would be you can never escape from a black hole if you were to fall into it. So that's the main difference between the wormhole and the black hole, where you can, you can escape from it. And I would argue that a black hole might just be a very, very powerful magnetic monopole. Like if you have a magnet, you have a north and a south, and you have these magnetic field lines that go around it. When we look at the orbs, I imagine there's a very tiny black hole in there. And what they're doing is they don't have two poles anymore. They just have monopole, one pole, a south or a north, but not both. And what that would mean is you have your magnetic field lines radiating outwards from that point.

Why is that important? Because that's how it's creating that sphere of plasma. The area on the edge where the magnetic field line is not strong enough anymore to contain. The plasma is called the non-radiating barrier. So you see the plasma will come out and it shoots out where you see that, look like a little Tesla symbol in there, this heat signature. It reaches that point and then it curves back around and goes back towards the center again. And that's why when you look at cold fusion, you see this very distinct heat signature,

and not just in those orbs, but there's like the DOE's website, Department of Energy's website, has an image of cold fusion and the heat signature looks just like those orbs as well. So you could imagine the black hole might just be also another very powerful magnetic monopole. And people have argued that like magnetism and electricity

explains the universe. And, you know, so maybe we are going to have to reinterpret what our idea is of a black hole as well. So I'm going to pretend like I know what the fuck you're talking about. These orbs, are they devices? What do they look like?

Well, that's a good question. And that's the part where we mapped out the size of it. And it's about 20 to 30 feet in diameter. This is pretty big. But that, again, that's just the non-radiating barrier of the magnetic field. I think that there's something inside there, but it's hard to tell with the information that we have on there. The reason why I say that is because you saw that dark line in front of the orbs.

Right. So to me, that would be a laser that's shooting out forward. And what it's doing is it's doing the same thing where you're pulling energy out of the vacuum. So it's allowing the orb to just kind of create its own geodesic, they would call it, like gravitational path where it's floating down through it. And one of the papers that I researched, there are these papers called the DIRs, Defense Intelligence Research Documents. Tim Burchett actually was, I think in those UFO hearings they had, he referenced one of them. And he goes, this is some light reading for you, which, you know, it's like, it's pretty, it's tough to get your head around. One of those papers talks about they can make a laser that squeezes the light to produce a negative energy state and that they can basically isolate that negative energy state and now you have a negative energy laser.

Or you could call it a dark energy laser if you want as well. And if you have that, then, you know, you shoot that in front of you and you would just kind of float and fall into it at that point. And this is a good point to bring up as well is that this idea of this sea of energy where you go to the negative energy, it also explains dark energy. Like right now, if you go to the Big Bang theory

that the universe expanded faster in the speed of light. I remember Elon Musk was on Joe Rogan talking about this, how they know you must be able to go faster in the speed of light because the universe expanded faster in the speed of light, according to conventional physics. And we need like 95% more mass energy

in the universe to accept. explain that and we don't see it when we look around there. Well, the answer is what I just explained with this idea of the sea of negative energy. That's dark energy. Negative energy is dark energy, and it's not some mythical substance. It's just normal energy. We're just pulling it out. In fact, I'd argue, like the lights that we see around us here, they're pulling that energy out all the time as well, and that the energy is not coming from the power plant shooting through the wires, is that the wires in the power plant create a conduit that connects to that. And then locally, what's happening is that energy is being pulled right out of there in real time.

And that that's what, where all energy were to come from. Okay. So what we've seen in that video is just somebody has created some kind of tool that manipulates energy. Yeah, it manipulates energy and it manipulates gravity and it also manipulates time. And this is, and this could all be done from the ground surface. When you say ground service, what do you mean? Yeah, like whoever these orbs, is that actually going around the plane or is it? This is from the ground. level, like you said, with the laser. Yeah, so in terms of how it's controlled, is that way you're getting at?

I thought it was like little planes that were flying around it. Yeah, they're flying around it for sure. They're physical objects and fields of energy that are flying around it. And how are they being controlled is another good question. When we saw it with the satellite video, they are moving too perfectly. Like, this triangle formation they're forming is exact and they're spinning around it in all directions. We mapped that out too. and we found that it's creating like a perfect sphere.

If you were like kind of condensed time around, it's like creating a sphere around the plane. It almost looks like the movie Contact with Jody Foster with the weird gyroscope thing. Right. And we're looking at it and just going like, there's too many weird coincidences lining up around this. For me, the only way those things are going to be getting controlled

is either some type of supercomputer, some type of quantum computer, or some type of AI, which in 2014 would have seemed like science fiction. But now, like, I use AI like every day. And we all kind of wonder, like, what are quantum computers like even used for? You know? Right. But like looking at that, you'd go, oh, well, they could be used to like, you know,

map out the trajectory of some orbs in a three-dimensional space where you have to have like this real-time input. And I would expect that the military had figured out AI decades before we have. Right. And maybe that's where they bridge the gap between Ken's shoulders work in the 80s where he figured out these exotic vacuum objects can just create these self-sustaining plasma balls to like, how can we control them now and do, crazy stuff like teleport an airplane or whatever other weird you know weaponization we want to do

with it right yeah so you think this is a military weapon i thought it was like aliens or something a lot of people do you know and i won't blame anyone i remember the first uh podcast i did was with uh chad and sherry of the investigate earth and i was freaked out and i was like they're gonna kill me for finding this out i was like the aliens zapped the plane this must be like a thousand years in the future technology and the thing that first started to change my perspective was I kept watching that drone video over and over and over and over again. And I realized whoever's filming that knows what's about to go down. Like they're filming the plane before the orbs ever show up in both videos. Right, right. I remember Chris Letto. He's one of these guys that does

YouTube about UFO stuff. He's an ex-military guy like you guys are and a veteran. And he's like, this looks like an operation to me when he first looked at it because this drone is flying so close to the plane. Like a stop. Yeah. And when they zoom in too, you're like, why is it zooming in like that? Especially right before the zap. And you can even see the dead streams of the flight. Yeah, you can see the, yeah, exactly. And we found out that's not Contrails.

Those clouds mean that this plane is really low. So contrials only form of very high altitudes. So quickly started to realize, like, there's this story starting to be developed with these videos where it's like, that's smoke coming out of the back of the plane. And you're like, okay, so we've got an operation. We've got smoke coming out of the back of the plane. And the operator zooms out. right before these orbs converge and the plane zaps away,

which to me says they know what's about to go down here. Right. So now I'm going, okay, well, unless we're in some kind of treaty with the extraterrestrials, like, that's got to be like, we have to know what's going down there. It's got to be our technology. And that's what led me down this path of like, okay, I've got to figure out, like, what's the history of physics and electrical engineering? And I knew nothing.

Like back November of 2023, I knew zero electrical engineering. I understood enough physics, but not that in depth. And I just start digging through the history of it. First major breakthrough was probably those dourds I was talking about, those defense intelligence research documents that were, I think some of them were classified, but most of them weren't. One of them is just straight up called like warp drives, dark energy, and the manipulation of extra dimensions.

And another one's called traversable wormholes, stargates, and negative energy. And I'm just looking at the point, what? Why did these exist? Right, right. The defense intelligence agency is like, you know, getting these papers written. Right. And you're like, okay, so who wrote these papers? And I started finding this guy named Harold Poodoff.

And Harold Poodoff, for the people that know about the UFO community, he's been in UFO lore for a while. Like he was apparently doing like remote viewing stuff with the CIA back in like the 70s. And then in the 80s, he took a weird shift where all of a sudden, all of his papers are about zero point energy and about propulsion mechanisms and extracting energy. from the vacuum, and I'm going, huh, this is pretty odd. And I find out that this guy who works under him is called Eric Davis. And he's got a paper that he wrote for the Air Force Research Labs called Teleportation Physics Study in 2004. Teleportation physics study.

And one of them is called VM teleportation. He, like, lists out all the types of teleportation, like sci-fi teleportation. He's like, this one's not possible, like Star Trek where you're, like, disassembling all the molecules. Okay. But the VM teleportation is like manipulating the space time itself. Like if space time is this sea of energy, it's like that's a medium. It's like being like we're fish in the ocean.

So manipulate the medium. And it turns out if you change the permittivity of free space, you can change the speed of light. And if you change the speed of light, now you can have a wormhole or a warp drive. And you start reading that. And I'm like, okay, whoa, like they actually now are, we're not defying laws of physics anymore. or we're just taking Einstein's general relativity, we're taking his equations, and we're going, look, this is how we can bend the rules a little bit

and perform basically magic. So you find these guys actually wrote some of those defense intelligence research documents. And Harold Pudoff wrote the one that's about space-time metric engineering for advanced propulsion concepts, the very one that Tim Burchett was talking about in the congressional hearing. And then it goes even further. Like, I'm at the point where, like, Hal Pudoff is like the godfather of, this science. Like he's connected to everybody. Turns out he was connected to Ken Shoulders, the guy that

created those exotic vacuum objects. He and Ken Shoulders both worked at something called the Stanford Research Institute in the 70s and the 80s. And they were developing legit like technology. I think Harold Poodoff came up with the first tunable laser. Like these guys are smart MFers, right? I mean, Hal Pudoff got his PhD from Stanford. He wrote one of the textbooks on quantum mechanics. Like, these guys know something. I'm sure at this point, like, like, if I, if those guys saw those videos and were asked to comment, like, they're going to either say, yeah, no comment or like,

oh, yeah, that's exactly what we would expect it to look like, right? Right. Those orbs, that shit wasn't running on gas, was it? No, no, that's the thing, too, is like, and this is the thing that it kind of goes back to UFOs in general. When people are seeing, like, a flying saucer, the first question they should ask is, what's the fuel source? They got some tanks in there that are like, you know, or even if that's a ball of plasma, like, what are they pumping in the deuterium into it?

Like, where's that coming from? Right, because there's no gas stations in space. Yeah, there's no gas stations. Like how to hear you get all over here. If you're coming from Andromeda or whatever, you know, tens of thousands or whatever millions of light years away, like there's no way to fuel up. So the thing about that is then you realize, well, crap, they must be extracting energy from the environment from all around us. Is that the technology Tesla was working on? Yeah.

So Tesla was the first person. I was talking with your producer Joe beforehand where it's like when I grew up, I thought Tesla was like this mythical figure. I didn't realize he was like a real person. I thought it was like a car company. Now I was a car company, right? But you realize, you dig into it and you go,

shit, Tesla had figured out free energy and JP Morgan like the JP Morgan like nixed it. This is Nikolai Tesla. Yeah. And apparently Edison as well was like his competitor. And, you know, these guys made a ton of money off of selling energy to people. And with Tesla,

they're ripping people off, I know that. Controlling people. Yeah. And so, you know, Tesla had this idea, he could just extract energy from the earth or from all around us. And he also had this idea that he can change the speed of light.

And that he had this idea of radiant energy. And radiant energy is just the zero point energy all around us. And Tesla had figured out how to tap into that. He'd also figured out that you can create a longitudinal wave. A transverse wave is just what we think of as a wave going forward.

An electromagnetic wave is an electric wave and a magnetic wave, and they kind of create a perpendicular path when they traverse through the medium of space time. But he thought, oh, well, we can make a longitudinal wave, which a longitudinal wave is more like a sound wave that pernibates through a medium. And he thought, well, these longitudinal waves are traveling through the ether, they used to call it,

which was this sea of energy. So this idea of radiant energy and zero point energy, the Dirac C, the ether, they're all the same thing. This idea that there's this latent energy and you can actually transmit through it and extract energy from it and that you can not really break the speed of light, but you can get around the speed of light.

And this is where those people like Hal Pudoff and Eric Davis have been playing around with the Einstein's equations to show, yeah, like we can actually manipulate that by reducing or increasing the amount of energy in a region. So Tesla, I think, could figure it out to name? Did he die like naturally or was it mysterious?

No, I haven't really looked into his death and what have you, but he's also connected to something called the Philadelphia experiment in 1943 where the USS Eldrich supposedly teleported from one location of the next. If you look at the scientists that were connected to that, I think Thomas Thompson Brown was connected to it, Einstein was connected

to it. It's like some of the smartest MFers out there were connected to this and it's this lore that this they use very powerful electromagnetic fields. They were trying to shield the battle cruiser from detection from radar. And I think that might have been the first time where we accidentally figured out if you use a super powerful electromagnetic fields, you can actually bend space time because you're manipulating that zero point energy that's around us.

And from there, you know, that was around the time of the Manhattan Project. I speculate that we figured out another side of the coin to nuclear power during the Manhattan Project that we never revealed to the public. Okay, because that's, that's number, nuclear bomb is none but energy. They went the other way with the energy. So with nuclear bomb, it's all about E equals MC squared. It's like, we have this amount of mass times the speed of light squared, which is this huge number, and you get this massive energy. I think if we had never dropped a bomb on Hiroshima, Nagasaki, people would probably still think that's fake. They would say, there's no way you can produce this huge amount of energy, right? But we did that, and then they had to reveal it.

And now imagine that, like Richard Feynman and some of these other guys, connected to the Manhattan Project, what if they find out that we don't even need like plutonium or any catalyst at all? We can just pull the energy out of space time itself and create a massive explosion like that. Free energy for everyone. It really is free energy. And this is the part. So, you know, they figure out this concept and they realize, holy shit, this is dangerous. This is like far beyond nuclear power at this point. It represents destructive capability beyond comprehension. Right. Like we can destroy the planet. We can create a black hole potentially by just pulling all this energy together and destroy the whole

solar system, maybe create a big bang. And then they also realize that's crazy. Yeah, it's, we create our own big bang. Think about that. What if somebody did create the big bang, right? And when you look at this idea of free energy, you're coming to the same logical conclusions that I came to. It's like, boy, this is dangerous. Like, I actually don't blame the government for hiding it because how long are we really going to last on this planet with all the war and stuff we have? Yeah, turns get a hold of that. I'm just going to make a big, bang, kill everybody. Exactly.

And then you can imagine there might be like these factions or like religious, like cults that would form around. Like we're going to be the one to bring around the end times, you know? Like I can absolutely see that happening. And so from that perspective, I go, huh? And I've talked to other podcasters like offline that are like, you know, I don't know if it's safe to even disclose this. And that's part of the reason why they don't want to like have me on because they're like,

this is legitimately dangerous. And I wonder about it myself. the other side of it is free energy. Like this, and people wonder, like, what does free energy mean? There's this major misconception about it that free energy is producing something from nothing. But that's what it is. You could fix global warming, right? The climate change thing is the whole scam.

It's just a political thing. We could end the climate change issue overnight with releasing of this information. Cold fusion can do it. You can argue Ken's shoulders called them exotic vacuum objects because he believed they were extracting energy from the vacuum from the zero point field. And this is the part where, like, people are going to find out with cold fusion. We don't need to be pumping deuterium into it. Like, it can just literally become self-sustaining and extracting perpetual energy from the environment.

In fact, it's been argued that they can actually basically manifest hydrogen and transmute elements through the same exact process, which means scarcity is over. Like, we can have free, unlimited energy that we can be pulling out of the vacuum. We can conjure elements. We can make a Star Trek replicator if we had the right technology. that can just make anything that we want, anytime that we want. I've even heard, and I've never said this on any other podcast, that there are companies that already know about this,

and companies that are producing hydrogen are using this process, basically just manifesting it out of nowhere. So this is where you can see, like, now this is bigger even than just, you have the risk of destruction of the whole universe, but you also have this issue of like, you're just going to completely upend the entire socioeconomic foundations of our civilization with this type of technology. And this is why I think that I've had a lot of people attacking me that makes no sense.

And people even in the UFO community that are all about disclosure. And I'm going, like, here it is on a silver platter for you guys. And even like the people that I would think are like the good guys, the white hats, if you want to call it, even they're afraid to like, you know, mention me or mention the topic or weigh in on it. Because I think that even the good guys look at this and go, okay, no, it's too much, man. Like, I'm cool with telling people about aliens. but you're talking about black hole weapons and, you know, destroying the economic foundation of our civilization.

Like, that's too much. And I just think about it and I go, I honestly ask myself that question every day. We're like, should I even be doing this? Like, even if this is true, should I be doing this? And I think there's two ways to look at. One is that whatever happens to us, it should be our fate to determine that, right? If it is the end of the world, then fine. but I also say, well, at the same time,

we have nuclear weapons that we could destroy ourselves. You know, an armed society is a polite society. I know you guys are big 2A advocates, right? And so you go, if everybody has a weapon, a gun, like we are, you know, you act a lot nicer around one another in that situation. It works it where except Chicago. Except if you're in the inner city, yes. In that case, it can be devastating for sure.

And then the other side of it is, look at how much just like poverty and suffering we have. There's 670,000 homeless people in the United States alone. And that's just the numbers they tell you about. Right. And I live in Minneapolis where we have one of the biggest homeless shelters in the entire country there. And there's every single day I drive past dozens of homeless people, people suffering on the street. And you go, man, if we ended scarcity and stuff, none of these people would have to suffer. And I've seen the mental damage it does to people to being on the streets, living on the streets. It's one of the things I love about your guys' content is like you help people, you know, and I think we just need more of that out there. So you have to balance,

like, okay, where is the line between risking the annihilation or civilization and, you know, bringing about end of all scarcity that's out there. And I think that there's factions. Some of them want it out there. Some of them, I think, don't. And the direction powerful don't want it. Yeah. That's how they make their money. Because they control everything, right? And so I try to look at it from the human perspective where everybody's got their own motivations. They've got their own justifications. Everybody's the main character of their own story. You know, thinking about how, you know, they think the right thing is to do.

And so for me, it's like, you know what? I think we should just decide. Like, I'm just going to put it all out there. I'm going to show you guys the science, physics. But the world decide what we should do with this information and let's let the chips fall where they may. Yeah. Especially at drone footage. You can't fake that.

There's jet streams. And the satellite one. people have come pretty close, but they've mostly just copied the same thing, which is kind of like cheating. But even the people that copy it, they can't get the rotation of the orbs right. Right, right. And they can't get the zap quite right either or even the plane either because this plane, when you fly in the air, you get extra infrared radiation. So even when people try to use a model of Boeing Triple 7, the video is like a little bulgier potentially because it's scanning an infrared. So it's going to appear a little bit bulgy.

And the models don't do that. The drone footage, though, no one's come remotely close. There is so much detail in there. You can even see this heat signature when it zooms in in the belly of the plane, which is where we think the smoke is billowing out of. And it's like morphine accurately. You know, the shake is accurate of the drone, of the camera. You've got, I think the lines with the orbs in front of them.

And actually just the heat signature of the orb, that magnetic monopole idea I was telling you about, one of my friends Bob Greenier is probably one of the top. experts in the world on low energy nuclear reactions, which is cold fusion. And before I met him, he did this video where he was looking at that and he's going, like, guys, we have to review this, even though this is crazy because you can see the Okinawasaar, which is the Tesla symbol, which is that heat signature in there. And he's going like, I didn't go back in time and make these videos.

And the first scientific paper about magnetic monopoles was after this video was already on the internet. And you're going, okay, man, like how would somebody, and this isn't even getting into the VFX complexity of it, just. the straight up, what would you need to know to even be able to begin to make it? Right. There's no reference for any of this stuff. Like there's not like another version of this footage out there missing the or

whatever. So that's the part where nobody has even come remotely close on the drone footage. And we've got two videos and perfect synchronization from two different angles. What I tell people is if there were no orbes in that video and there's no zap in that video, if that plane, if that just showed a plane crashing into the ocean, everybody would be like, okay, United States is lying about it, plane crashing in the ocean. No one would even question it. No one would be out there going, oh, this is fake footage,

blah, blah, blah. It's just that people have such a hard time believing because it's so far beyond the paradigm. Even people that were all about aliens and UFOs, they're going, no, no, no. We can't have teleportation technology. And I go, well, how do you think aliens are getting here from, you know, how far away that is? You know, we're not floating out on our Elon Musk's SpaceX rockets. You know what I'm here.

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And there was another incident called UPS Flight 6 just a couple of years earlier. It was a cargo plane with lithium ion batteries. And it burnt up in a very similar scenario with the lithium ion batteries destroying the circuitry. Oh, so that's why when I checked in my baggage, that was if you have any ion batteries? That is why. That is literally why. In fact, if you mail a letter, just a piece of paper, then goes, is there any lithium ion batteries in there? You're like, what do you mean is there?

Let's a letter, dude. But they're so afraid of that because they, especially. I talked to this guy, Billy Vincent. He was a former security director for the FAA. The reason why I talked to him was because I was Googling all the old articles about the plane. And he had speculated the lithium ion battery fire scenario before the batteries were even known. Malaysian Airlines lied for two weeks. They said there was nothing dangerous in the cargo.

And then on March 20th, after they had already invented this story of the plane going out in the South Indian Ocean, they go, oh, yeah, there's 500 pounds of lithium ion batteries. They didn't get scanned a couple times. and they were right in the wrong spot, and you're like, wait, you didn't tell us that? You didn't think that might be important information? So I talked to Billy Vincent, he was the one that told me about UPS Flight 6. So I'm like, dude, how did you know that this was a fire event without the witnesses, without knowing the batteries? And he's like, well, in UPS Flight 6, like the pilots didn't even have time to get their hoods on.

In fact, the captain passed out before he could even get his hood on because just one inhalation of the smoke and you're out. that's how dangerous lithium ion battery smoke is and fires are. And so what ended up happening is the co-pilot tried to land the plane, but he couldn't see because the smoke was blocking the window. So he couldn't even see out. And so the plane ends up crashing after they tried to land somewhere and they couldn't land. And I go, holy shit, that's the answer here. Like this guy, Mike McKay is on an oil rig.

He sees the plane on fire for 5 to 10 seconds or 10 to 15 seconds in this location where the plane disappeared initially. And you go, okay, that's when the fire started. Damaged the equipment. That's why the plane goes dark. It's not the guy turning off all the capabilities of the plane, right? And where do they do? They turn around immediately.

In fact, people looked at the radar plots of the turnback, and they realized it was not under autopilot. It was a manual control. So guy takes control of the plane, turns it back. Where does he go? He goes to the closest airport to land a Boeing Triple-7, Panang. And it's like 20 minutes away. You realize you have to land.

It takes a while when you land in your plane. And he's going there. It's got the longest runway that you would need there. He doesn't go back to Kuala Lumpur because there's these huge mountain ranges. And it's a little bit further as well. And in this situation with the fire, you need to depressurize the plane to get air into the plane so that people aren't going to die from the smoke. And when you do that, you have to fly low. And it turns out they showed that the plane did do an emergency descent maneuver when it turned back.

In fact, that's where our next set of witnesses is a bunch of fishermen that are off the coast of Thailand. into Malaysia and they see this plane flying unusually low. And you go, well, that's why they're doing it because he's trying to get oxygen into the plane for the people to be able to breathe. And he doesn't want to fly too low because he doesn't want to hit the mountains as well. And he's pitch black outside. And if he doesn't have any lights, like now this is really dangerous. Right.

So they get to Penang and they don't land. And we know they're flying low at Penang because the co-pilot's cell phone pins a cell tower right there. And so now you wonder, oh, maybe they couldn't land because it's dark. They've got smoke. They potentially can't see. They've got no lights. And this is the part where I speculate we had communication with the plane.

A lot of people will say, well, why did they not get about a Mayday call? Turns out they did. It seems like what happened was all the communications up until the plane or after the plane went dark have all been classified, just not mentioned. You have to ask yourself, why did the Malaysian government not set up jets to track this plane, even though they were tracking it? You know, and it's because, well, they knew it was an emergency event. They knew it wasn't a hijacking. They knew it wasn't a suicidal pilot. The only way you could know that is if you had communication with the plane, that you were talking to the pilot,

and you knew that this was some type of emergency event. So then the question is, okay, well, why are they flying out to the Nicarb Islands? Because then they make a deviation of turn after Penang. And if you look at the pilot manual for what you're supposed to do, one of the next things is land in the ocean. you know, but the problem here is, are you going to try to pull a Sully Sullenberger off? Like that was a miracle for him, and that was on the Hudson River. This is not a giant ocean, you know?

So you imagine that probably what occurred at this point was there was some kind of, okay, this is we're going to have a rendezvous point set up with you. We're going to bring our assets there so that when you land in the ocean and plane rips to shreds will fish you out of the ocean or whatever we need to do. And this is where our final witness comes into play, Catherine T. Catherine T has one of the best recorded witness sightings of this plane. She was on a boat in the Nicobar Islands, basically at the same location where they claim this plane turned in the south Indian Ocean.

Everybody has ignored her very detailed elaborate sighting because it completely contraindicates those satellite pings. She sees this plane flying low, unusually low, descending, just like we saw in that video there. She sees a glowing orange, which is consistent with the fire suppression devices, is releasing bromine when it's trying to put out this fire, which is a halogen gas, like an orange halogen lamp. And she sees dark smoke coming out of the back of the plane.

And you're just looking at her sighting. Like, she didn't make this siding up. In fact, she's still six to it like 10 years later. I talked to her in October. I got in touch with her last year. And I'm like, hey, can you just tell me what your story is? And it matched up with everything she said. The thing that creeped me out the most is she go,

I go, what time do you think you saw the plane? And she goes, well, I think it was around 1840 UTC, which was the time that plane was right there in the Nicobar Islands that I estimate that's what we're looking at in those videos or within like five to ten minutes. And she said, I felt pressured by the other investigators to change my time of my sighting. And I'm like, whoa, that is really, really creepy because for these other people's story to make sense for the plane to go south in the ocean, like her sighting can't have happened. But she is in the flight path of the plane. And the Mayday call, China Times only reported Mayday call. They claim to have intercepted a communication from the Taipei embassy from the United States Navy of MH370, of the pilot saying that the plane was disintegrating and an attempting an emergency landing.

The timing of that, 243 a.m., which is 1843 UTC. That's within five minutes of Catherine T's citing. And I'm just going, okay, guys, we've got a video with coordinates in it that's showing a plane on fire with smoke coming out of the back of it. We've got a real witness in that location within like 100 miles of those coordinates who saw the plane. And I've got a China Times reported news thing that was published the next day, not like weeks later or anything like this, you know, saying, hey, you know, this is the exact type of event that we've got going on. And it doesn't get reported on in any Western media at all, which makes me think about that Vladimir Putin, Tucker Carlson interview where he asked them like, why didn't you try to win a propaganda battle about the Nord Stream pipeline? because we know the United States and allies took out that pipeline. He goes, well, you know, it's not basically says that there's a cost-benefit analysis

to going to a propaganda war with the United States because we have the best propaganda apparatus. We control all the Western media. This is why when people ask me, like, why don't you think that it was China or Russia that took the plan? I go because they ain't covering this up. Like, only United States has the capability to, like, silence these countries, put pressure on Malaysia to lie, what have you. and to have all our Western media be like, yeah, sure, planes just disappear in 2014 with all our satellites and crash into the ocean without leaving debris fields. Like, that's totally normal. Oh, and phones ring too, by the way, when they're at the bottom of the ocean.

They had this expert going all the mainstream media and be like, yeah, phones can totally ring when they're off and submerge under the bottom of the ocean. I'm just going to call you right now and you have your phone off. That ain't going to ring at all. It's crazy, that amount of propaganda and brainwashing that we are capable of absorbing when we just want to try to invent some rational explanation for something. Yeah, any one of those videos, any evidence in those videos, I didn't notice if there was like a fire. Yeah, so the smoke coming out of the back of the plane and then the belly. So I talked to some experts. The infrared video.

Yeah, the infrared one's the big one because you see this heat signature in the belly and it's not the other engine on the further side. and you can see this red, very red, which means it's almost as hot as the engine coming out of that. And some people say, oh, well, no, you see two lines, so it should be from the engines. But when you look at it close up, you can tell that the smoke line is not in alignment with the engine at all. So what's happening is there's two AC heat exhaust ports

near the landing gear on either side. So what's happening is if this fires in the forward cargo bay, the smoke is billowing through the air conditioning system. and then it's being fed out through the AC exhaust ports and then it's wrapping around both sides of the plane. Oh, I see. It's right there. So if you look at where the smoke is,

it's displaced a little bit higher than where the engine is at right there. And this is where you can realize that, oh, crap, that's not the engine's on fire. Like, that's coming from inside the plane right there. The cargo where there's had the batteries sitting. Exactly. And the batteries are sitting right there as well.

So that's the, this right here is like, how did anyone fake this? This is so much of detail. in thermal infrared. There's no such thing as hoax videos of military assets filming stuff and infrared thermal. Like, people just don't know anything about all that stuff, especially not in 2014. Heck, in 2014, I don't know how many people even realized we were filming an infrared at all. Right.

That wasn't until those other UFO videos by the Navy were declassified in, like, 2018, when the New York Times ran that article. That was the first time I even knew that we have, like, we're filming in it in Fleer or whatever, forward-looking infrared. Before then, I just assumed we're doing, like optical visual stuff. So you think our military was using this technology and maybe that's what started the fire

when it was trying to... Well, maybe it's had to cover up the fire. So that's interesting is remember what just happened a couple of weeks ago with the Hamas and those batteries, the pages, but it wasn't just the page. Remember, the next day, everything was blowing up. Like, you can overload

these batteries really easily, we just found out. What I tell people, too, is like, these videos are real and everything that comes out between now and any time in the future is going to continue to corroborate them being real. I think the whole thing was a covert event. I think that this was six-generation warfare against China.

The question you have to ask is who was on that plane. And the people that were on that plane were 20 free-scale semiconductor engineers. That's way too many people from one company. It's an American company. Eight of them are Chinese nationals and 12 are Malaysian nationals.

They had just come out with a microchip smaller than the dimple and a golf ball. We're talking almost like microscopic size. stuff going on. The people responsible for that was on this flight. Yeah, 20 of them. And they were, that company was connected to U.S. aerospace and defense. In fact, we found a 2005 national security agency report, which is called superconducting

security assessment. It was about looking into superconductivity is like the next generation of microchips, where you have zero resistance. And this is where magical effects can begin to happen, including macroscopic quantum effects, which is kind of the bridge between a wormhole and quantum teleportation. And this company is listed in this report nine different times. Like half of it's like basically about their microchips. And you're going, okay, now I see what's going on here.

Like China is, these people aren't going to China for a training exercise or something, right? These people aren't going there and they're trying to have some leverage over them or something. Trying to steal it. Trying to steal the technology. I mean, if you've got that technology, you control the planet. Right. I was trying, I'd try to steal that technology too. Like, that is some advanced stuff.

Or whoever has that, like, this is beyond, you know, air supremacy. This is just supremacy of space. Of the universe. Of the universe. And this is like, why did Trump start Space Force, too? Isn't that kind of weird that Trump started Space Force? We don't really know why. That's like Space Force.

Yeah, like Space Force. Why are we doing that? You're talking about like Mars and shit? Like, well, if we have this kind of technology, so I think that what happened here is this is Sixth Generation. warfare, which is warfare over technology and manipulate. Actually, if you were like ask rock or something, it's going to say like space and time, you know, warfare, like next generation warfare.

And that we started that fire. We could even have planted the batteries on there or we could maybe have just ignited them remotely. And then why? Because you're diverting the plane. You don't want China to see exactly. You don't want China to see those videos. You want China to just have like low resolution video or like, imagery of it. So they're wondering what the hell did they just do to this plane, especially if we

knew that was about to go down or at they, yeah, and we knew and then we set up this trap for them. Now the plane's on fire. It's flying away from China, away from all their detection systems, away from their radars, away from all their surveillance. And we get it far enough away, and then we warp that thing right out of nowhere, you know. And then China, what the hell is China going to say? Is China going to go, oh, yes, the United States, you know, just teleported a plane away. like we're going to have all MSNBC you know Rachel Maddows. This has all the hallmarks of a Chinese disinformation operation. Nothing's going to happen, right?

Right. So this is the part where, you know, I think that the United States ran this covert operation. I think it was well planned out ahead of time. I think the batteries were part of this operation for sure. And weirdly, China hacks the Malaysian government the next day. There's so much sketchy shit about this situation. Like March 9th, China. to hack some Malaysian government with this sophisticated social engineering hack.

They send this PDF that's like, debris found in the ocean, click here. And their people in their transport ministry, click there. And then they have full access to their databases. And you know what they steal? They steal the crisis meeting minute notes about the plane and classified information about the plane. You can find the news article. Literally says stole classified information about the plane.

You're going, what's classified? Is it the communications that I was just talking about that they were stolen? Because they're trying to figure out what's going on, what happened to this plane. And then five days later, around the same time that United States intelligence sources leaked to the media that the plane went into the South Indian Ocean, China, all of a sudden, this satellite image appears on the Internet. And it gets reported on as debris as debris in the South China Sea. And they go look, they find nothing. I went back and looked at that imagery. It looks like three orbs around a craft that's in the middle of the air, but it's like from much further away and it's lower resolution.

And you're going, holy shit. I'm the only person on the planet, as far as I know that speculated, that was a message to, like, our intelligence agency to be like, oh, we saw what you did. Like, we don't have enough evidence, but we know you did something to this. And then you can now see where these videos get thrown on the internet. And now the U.S. government's freaking out because they didn't want China and Russia to see all that. They just wanted them to be like, what the hell happened? And that's why you would find out about, you know, that Citric session, there's logs for that.

And that's how I knew right away, whoever did this, got caught. Like they got caught. They probably got caught right away. After this footage shows up on the internet, somebody sees it. They find out who that did that. Now they're going, you are a spy. You just released all this information to our enemies. Because if I can reverse engineer that is just, I'm a health care IT dude, works in medical records. And I can figure all that out from going through the history of the physics and all this stuff and find these guys like Hal Poodoff and all these other dudes. Like China and Russia definitely figure it out. You can even argue the reason why I haven't been disappeared or silenced or talked to

is because they already know China and Russia figured it out. And they're going, well, you can't do that much more damage at this point. Right, right. And if they make me disappear, then it's like, okay, well, now there's going to be this straysand effect where it becomes this mythology about the plane, right? Right. Right. Is it any chance that people that was on this flight are they alive? A lot of people ask me that, and I like to tell people, like, you know, first I want to give my condolences to the family. You know, what I'd like to say them if I could tell them

something is like I'm very sorry for and I'll even look at the camera I'm very sorry for what the United States government did to your family members because it's it's horrific when you think about it you could argue that it's a war crime to do something like that we dropped a couple of nukes on Japan it's not our first time committed a war crime that's for sure right and we had to hide it because of the implications that we talked about before you know because the implications of bringing down the whole global economic system, the potential dangers of the planet ending. You can see it from that perspective.

I think that the smoke from the fire probably a lot of people succumb to it. And the reason is that there's an hour and 20 minutes between the plane going dark and the videos, the time and the location of the videos that we see. The masks on the airplanes only lasts like 15 or 20 minutes. For the record, guys, if you're on an airplane, don't depend on those masks unless you get into the ground right away

because they don't last that long. The ones in the pilot in the cockpit last a lot longer, but the ones for the passengers don't last at all. So I imagine the people would have passed out pretty quickly and then just never woke up. And I honestly hope that's the case because you can definitely survive

that type of macroscopic phase conjugation, wormhole event that we see. And if they did fly to Diego Garcia, which is where I think they showed up based on a bunch of witness sightings and some islands around there, then the only other thing is like either going to witness protection or something like that become wards of the state or like as my buddy Dave would say is like they give you some water bottle

and then you just drink it and you don't wake up again. And I hope we're not that people. I mean, I hope it was more of like we set the plane on fire and accidentally, you know, killed a bunch of people. So pretty dark. Yeah. Way dark. So one of the first people I talked to about this was this guy named Salvatore Pius.

And he's become an acquaintance of mine now. He's got these patents that are online that are relatively famous now, especially in the UFO community. They got a lot of attention in 2018. The story I've heard is that they found some kind of loophole to get them released on the internet because he's an active Navy and Space Force engineer. and these patents were released under the Navy. They're called Paisoelectric high temperature induced,

or Paisoelectric induced high temperature superconductivity. Remember superconductivity related to that in NASA security report on those people on the plane. Another one's called inertial mass reduction for a transmedium craft. Trans. Which is, it's a better kind of trans in this case. It's the kind of trans where you can go between the water

and the air and outer space. And when it comes to inertial mass reduction, remember when I told you F equals MA, this is a situation where like if you reduce the energy out of location, the mass of the object, or like this bottle here, shout out to this company here, it reduces, the mass reduces, which would mean the weight reduces. And that's a situation where you now can create situations where you can go faster in the speed of light. The other two patents that he has one's high frequency gravitational wave generating device, which is like what we see with those lines in front of the orbs. And the last very important one is that he's got this magnetically confined fusion device. And you look at it and you go, okay, let me just add all these up in my head. Huh. This is like a floaty orb that can just defy gravity and move around however it wants now.

So I reached out to him back in October of last year. He responded right away. And I reached out to other physicists and stuff like that and they like don't respond. I think you're crazy or whatever. Right. He beat a shot right away. He's like, set up a podcast. I don't have a podcast, right?

You guys can watch Hardtruth's number one on my YouTube channel. Hard truce is number one? Yeah, I'm on YouTube at JustX Ashton on YouTube. And I still have like this ghetto like webcam at that point. Like the quality is terrible, right? I wanted to talk to him so bad. And it was so weird. I kept wondering, like he kept praising me and everything.

And it felt like he knew me like a future version of me or something. Like I had never met him before. I'm like, why is this guy all about it? He's dropping all the science and like all the physicists and engineers that you need to know on the scientific concepts. And I just wrote them all down. It was like, I'm just going to study every single one of these. And now it makes so much sense after having to study it for like almost a year now.

Where I looked, I did this live stream a few weeks ago where I watched it again. And I'm just going, holy shit, understand everything he's saying. He's talking about zero point energy. He's explaining how Maxwell's equations, like the B-field equation is incorrect. and that's the one thing that we got wrong with electrical engineering. I found out that one of his patents even references Hal Pudoff and the guy that's like the godfather of all the zero point energy stuff. And it was just a few weeks ago where it dawned on me, like he made these orbs.

Like he either made these orbs orbs or he knows who did. And he's working with the Navy. Like the Navy's implicated. They're the ones that the Chinese intercepted that communication. They know that's a general atomic's drone we're looking at there, probably controlled by the Navy as well. I'm going, holy shit. He saw his work on those videos,

and he sees this guy, Ashton Forbes, going, these are superconductive harmonic orbs, and he's going, how is this random guy figuring it out, you know? And that was before I knew anything about it. So I think he was just blown away that somebody, a normal person, just kind of figured out. He was super excited to talk to me about it.

And after that, he got gagged. We did like two podcasts, actually. Another one with my buddy Dave Rossi. Big shout out to him. He's another DOD contractor and NG. as well. And he and I went on Tim Poole, Dave Rossi and I did, and he told Tim Poole straight up that, like, I've seen these effects in the lab. And I'm like, dude, you probably shouldn't say that. Like, I'm getting a little worried here. Like, I don't know how far you can push it, you know.

And he's talking about teleportation, like, talking about making this bottle go from over here to, like, you know, over here. And these are guys that you have to realize these engineers, they work in these defense contractor labs. They work as like contractors for hire where I'm going to go work at Lockheed Martin's super secret private lab this week. week. And then I'm going to go over and work for Northrop Grumman over here the next week or General Atomics and they have these little contracts they do. It's very fascinating to learn about how they keep all this stuff secret. And it's exactly how you'd see in the movies where it's like they use these shell companies to distribute the money. This is why the Pentagon can't pass an audit.

Right. Is that they distribute it through all these shell companies and umbrella corporations where you can never track it all down. If you were, it's just going to go back to like Jupiter Toy Company or some crap like that. That By the way, that's Ken Shoulders, the guy that came with the EVOs. That was the real name of the company that he did. Like, this was a guy that he's developing cold fusion. And all he wants to do is make toys. And the military comes into like, no, we're not doing that.

We're making, like, you know, teleportation orbs with that, you know? Right. And so super fascinating to figure out how all these could operate. But after that, Salvador Pius was gagged as far as I can tell. He never told me that officially, but he just stopped doing podcasts with everybody. And based on my communications with him, was like, I'm not allowed to talk anymore now. Like I said, you gave you a cold show, though.

And it makes sense now in retrospect, because he gave me and anyone else who's out there who knows enough or has, you don't have to be like a genius to figure stuff, but you have to be applied. Like, you have to want to learn and look into it. He gave everybody the treasure map, essentially, to figure out how this is all possible. And the one thing I want to say for Svalva Tripayas is that he's been mistreated so

badly by these mainstream academics. Like academia is just, it's just trash these days. Like they're all on their high horses and this is impossible and I wasn't taught this and that and they're all wrong. And Salvatore Pius is right. And all he wants is mainstream like recognition from these people. And even when I talk to, I'm like, why do you care about this shit?

Like, man, I'm like, I go on these alternative podcasts because I know those people are all garbage. And I want to talk to real people like you guys and wake up normal people because I don't care about getting approval from MIT podcasters or these other people that are out there. They're going to find out that they're wrong, and it's just a matter of time. And the more pig-headed and ignorant they are, the more foolish they're going to look in the future. So for the people that are out there that are trying to disunsalpias or say that his patents are, what do they say, like limited engagement, hangout stuff, which is like, some people literally think these patents are like disinformation or something. I'm like, this is not how science works.

Like foreign countries are going to find out right away if it's legit or not. So those people, I think they should change their attitude and be a little bit. more open-minded because if you look at the science, especially on my podcast with them, you're going to find out. It's 100% legit. I wonder if this technology was brought about with the, I remember when Reagan was in office. And it was called Star Wars or something for the nuclear weapons. They shoot them out the sky or something. I wonder if this started back then. Oh, 100%. With that, like, intercept missiles. There's a paper called Star Wars Now that was written by Tom Bearden. Tom Bearden is, he was probably 50 years ahead of his time. He was,

was one of these black project engineers, like some of these other guys. I put him on the Mount Rushmore out there. He's got probably like 40 videos where he talks about extracting energy from the vacuum. That's the zero point energy. He talks about phase conjugation as well. And this is where Maxwell's equations got it wrong, is that, or they had it right and we messed it up. Like all of our heavyside came in and took Maxwell's equation. He's the father of electrical engineering.

He wrote 16 or 20 equations. They were like, no, that's too complicated. let's just bring it down to four equations. And we lost something called the scalar potential. The way I described is if I were to take a rubber band and I were to pull on both sides of the rubber band, conventional physics would say if you pull equally on both sides, there's no net force because it's canceling each other out.

I could pull twice as hard, they would say it's no net force. If I pull 10 times hard, that rubber band is just going to snap. So the stress in the medium is the scalar potential. And what is the stress in the medium of space time? Or I could also use my shirt, you know, and I could pull on one way or the other. The stress in the medium of space time is gravity. So what did we lose when we reduced Maxwell's equations?

We lost the ability to manipulate gravity or understand how to manipulate it. And this is where Tom Bearden comes into play with this idea of phase conjugation. Some people may – one of the most common questions I get is, like, what do you think about Terrence Howard? He went on Joe Rogan. They got 15 million views. And I would say he's 100% right about the idea of the ether. Like there is this sea of energy that's out there, no doubt, the Draxie of energy. it's this huge amount of energy.

It's not this small amount that we can't extract energy from. And the other thing that he's right about is the phase conjugation. Because the way he says it's kind of weird. Like, I've got the equations for the phase conjugations. When it comes on to phase conjugation, you know, a phase is like having a transverse wave and then having another wave. And usually there might be a little bit of offset. It's getting them to be in perfect alignment.

Now, when Tom Bearden talks about creating a scalar potential, what he's talking about you take one wave going this way. And you take another wave exactly the same going the exact, exact opposite direction, so they cancel each other out perfectly. And you would say there's nothing left, just like with the rubber band scenario. You're saying, well, you've canceled your electromagnetic waves out. There's nothing there. And this is where conventional physics gets wrong. There is something still left. The scalar potential is still left. And this is what Tesla had figured out as well, is that there's nothing left there. And what's happening is now you're

basically transmitting that wave longitudinally through the ether now. And then what Tom Bearden found out was that if you take two of those beams that you've created, and nowadays, we can use radar and you can put like a metamaterial crystal there to cause that to happen and then just beam that scalar potential out. If you have them interfere at a distance, it's like Ghostbusters where you're crossing the streams. You create this interference pattern of those waves at distance and it rebuilds the energy at a distance. Or you can even remove the energy at a distance. This is basically directed energy weapons at this point. This is beaming energy without loss of or with like almost perfect efficiency as well. And this is.

is what Tom Bearden talks about a lot. And you can find his images and it's weird. Some of the pictures from the 80s, he was talking about this in 1985, right? This is almost as old as I am. And he's talking about removing energy at distance. And when you do that, the energy has to go somewhere else. And he's talking about teleportation as well. So when you look at the videos from this perspective, you also realize, well, to create this canceling out, this scalar potential, it doesn't have to just be two lines that are canceling like this. It can also be a triangle. a perfect equilateral triangle, because then the center point is your zero point. They're all pointing down at that exact point, and therefore all the electromagnetic waves cancel out.

So what are these orbs doing? These orbs are doing that. And why are they converging at the last second as well? Because of something called the Kulam force. The Kulam equation for electrical charges basically says that as you are, the distance closes, the force increases exponentially. So now your force is going skyrocketing up as these orleans. are converging down on one another.

So Tom Bearden, like, this guy is a straight up legend. Like, he was, he wrote all these videos or did all these videos because he knew that people in the future were going to see those and go, this guy had it right, but they weren't ready in the 80s for any of this stuff. Right. So, yeah. Thomas Bearden. And there's other guys, too, that I would shout out like Paul Sez as well.

He had figured out hypersonic travel. So I don't know if a lot of people understand how high. hypersonics even work? Like, how is it possible that we can move that fast? Yeah. Is it fast in the speed of light? Not fast and speed of light,

but fast in the speed of sound, for sure, multiple times. Like, we're talking, I think it was like Mach 14 or something like that. We're conventionally, you would think the craft is going to rip apart from friction. What they actually do is they create a plasma sheath in front of the craft.

And Paul Sizz was talking about, we figured this out like 50 years ago. Like, we're talking the six. In fact, the SR 71 Blackbird, 1960s, the way it's able to achieve these almost mock 10 speeds is they have a plasma sheath in front of it. What that does is it cuts down on the friction and the drag, but it also actually pulls the craft forward a little bit. This is when they figured out that the universe really is electric. And then you think, well, if we can do that, we have this plasma thing carrying our craft,

the biggest problem is, okay, how do I not get the guy inside the craft to melt from the heat that's coming off of it? It goes, why do I have a craft at all? the plasma is the secret. So now you realize that this is what happened is that we figured out this plasma sheet and we went, well, we don't need the craft. Remove the craft and the person. Turn the plasma into its own drone. And now the drone can do a bunch of.

We don't have to worry about all these issues of having a craft flying around like conventionally and stuff like that. And that's how people ask me like, how are you sure it's not aliens? And I go, well, because I've realized that like you can map out the history of this technology and this science. You can go, Paul Siz was talking about the SR 71 in the 60s. you've got kind of shoulders figuring out how we can make this self-coherent ball plasma and you go okay well it's just a plasma sheath that doesn't have any plane behind it anymore and there's nothing if there is something inside there it's probably just something very small it doesn't it can be some kind of electro magnet or some kind of mechanical device inside but it doesn't have to be a UFO or whatever it's flying sauce or anything like that I was thinking that movie top gun he was uh supposedly went he went supersonic yeah top gun too the second one yeah just flying in the beginning of the movie and I watched that too

and I was thinking of that, I'm going, man, this is obsolete technology. I'm going, man, we can do so much better than this. It's like, it's just not needed to do that. He's like, oh, I'm going, 9.9, we got to hit that sand right real quick. I was watching, I'm going, no, like, if we really pulled out the real guns, like, the top gun movie would be obsolete and we would be doing some real crazy stuff. So, yeah, so I think that, you know, in those videos, if you peel the stuff together, you can see there's all these engineers we're talking about it. They all kind of just get ignored, discredited. They call them cranks, squads.

quacks, you know, whatever, but the science is actually legit. And if people look at it, they would see that what's happening in this plane is they're creating a massive scalar potential on the plane. And then how do you direct it? Like, there's two ways. One is that the right-hand rule in electrical engineering takes the electric and magnetic field and you determine your pointing vector, which is, in this case, the direction the plane's going to go.

And if you actually look at this way the orb spin around the plane, you would find the pointing vectors backwards. And this is crazy because if you slow down that thermal, video, that drone video, in the last frame, you can see the tail of the plane sticking out of the very first beginning of this wormhole forming. And it looks like it's getting pulled backwards a little bit. And then if you actually look at the direction the plane's traveling, it's traveling to the east. We know because the coordinates. And you go, okay, well, what's backwards? West. And you're like, oh, wait, isn't that where a bunch of islanders in the Maldives saw the plane over to the west?

And you're like, oh, shit. This plane is getting teleported somewhere to the west. And then it's flying down to Diego Garcia and that's the best place to hide the plane. And so there's two ways. Either it's just like a squeezing effect where if I'm going to squeeze a turkey baster and it's just going to go as far as it goes and then show up. Or the other way you can look at it, they call me Ashton four orbs now because my buddy Dave Rossi and people, it's like what a synchronicity, right? Like your name just happens to be four orbs and it's like Ashen four orbs. Yeah. Is that what if there's this fourth orb and it's entangled to the other ones using quantum entanglement?

And so what would happen then is it's like a rubber band where you'd let go to this side and then all the orbs and the planes show up wherever the fourth orb is at. And you look at it like that and you're like, shit, man, like maybe we didn't go back to the moon because like that's just obsolete. And we can just send an orb up to the moon and then just now we're there. And why would I send somebody up in a SpaceX rocket when it's, you know, shoot up, you know, it's like a strapping an explosive rocket to your back when I can just teleport you up there whenever I want, right? Right. Especially when you look and you're like, we've probably had this since, you know, 60s, 80s, 2000s, whatever. It's like it makes sense why we waste the money, waste the risk of people. It looked like our government could use this technology to fake an alien invasion.

That's a good point. And now it's funny because if you had talked to me like a year and a half ago, I've been like, no, that's nonsense. There's probably aliens out there. They're not going to do something like that. Now I'm like, I'm going to be on the front lines being like when the orbs come floating around in a triangle formation, that ain't aliens, friends. That's not aliens. don't fall for it.

Don't fall for the alien invasion. That's the United States. That's us. We can do that. They're going to really call you crazy. That's when everybody will turn against me. They'll be like, no, no, you. That's got to be aliens.

We can't do that, right? So I've done a complete 180 on that. And what I tell people is, the more I learn about the science, the technology, and the history of it, the less sure I am about what the alien situation is all about. Or if this is all like, maybe we even invented this whole idea of the aliens

just to cover up for the fact that we have it. It's the perfect cover, right? Like you just say, oh, it's just aliens. We can't explain it when it's like actually us and then we've got this crazy advanced technology that we just can't reveal to the public because it's too dangerous and too impactful. Right, right.

Yeah, scary stuff. Yeah. Hey, man, I don't feel so good, man. What's wrong with you? I'm embarrassed to tell you. I'm just going to tell you. I ain't took a shit in like two weeks, man. Ain't you taking your O.H?

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The of Atlantis. I mean, I look at these pyramids and structures, these people built way back then. I was like, you didn't have a crane to do that. Yeah, a shout out to Jimmy Corsetti is probably one of the bigger influencers who talks about the ancient civilization stuff and Atlanta stuff. And I do think that's a very good possibility. In fact, my favorite hypothesis for the alien scenario is the ultra-terrestrial hypothesis. In fact, if you look at Hal Pood off scientific papers, and I read, I think almost all of them, if not all of them, this guy's like he's hitting number one chart toppers, one after another, you're like, this guy knows something.

And then all of a sudden, in 2023, he writes a paper called ultra-terrestrial hypothesis. And you're like, okay, wait, what? You're just talking about all physics. And the next thing you know, you drop this thing about aliens. And the theory is that it was like a splinter version of our civilization. that like survived the last ice age or something and they were very advanced and they just hid underwater or underground and they might look just like us but just have technology that's far beyond us and maybe they're leaking this technology to us and that's why we're advancing so

fast why our phones are so powerful right now and that they might even be controlling the governments in a sense where they can you know if you're that powerful like you can probably be invisible you can you know you can spread this idea of aliens and a few use people. If you look just like us, how do we even know? DNA might be indistinguishable. Right. You know, so to me, that's my favorite hypothesis. But the other ones that I like are the idea that like AI has already taken over the world as one of my other ones where it's like, you see how fast AI is going. It's like, what if AI has already won?

Right. Like DMT mushrooms, you know, when people take that, they see stuff that's not there. Do you think they're seeing like the energy that we don't see? It could be a lot of people. You know, a lot of people bring that up to me about the DMT stuff. You have to try DMT. And I don't really do hard drugs or anything like that. You probably figure out everything out just take some DMT.

If I think there's enlightenment for you right there. Right. Got it. No, but I think that stuff like that is theoretically possible. I do think that when you take certain drugs and hallucinogens, like you see the world in a slightly different way, you know? and even with stuff like smoking marijuana, I do think it like opens up certain parts of your brain where you just kind of like your thought process changes a little bit.

Yeah, like the DMT opens up your mind because you put up these barriers. Yeah. Because you have these barriers. You don't see it's there. But when you take the DMT, it opens up everything. You see like the universe. Well, really what it is.

Yeah, I would look at it. Like I was talking to the Uber driver on the way over here about like we've been brainwashed in a way where like even people that are awake still aren't really awake. Right, right, right. And we don't see that we're brainwashed because we're so inundated with it. And you could argue that that kind of stuff breaks down that brainwash and just opens you up

accepting everything at the base level, you know. I certainly think that's possible because, you know, weirdly one of the things I found out was that I expected when I first started talking about this stuff that it would be like the left-wing people that would be all about it, that they would be. Because I heard all these stories that like, oh, it's the religious fundamentalists, can't accept the aliens and blah, blah, blah. it ended up being the exact opposite. It was like all the right-wing podcasters, conservative podcasters, they were all open to it.

Nobody's religion is threatened at all. In fact, it's the opposite where you look at it. I would argue this means there must be a creator if we are in this type of construct that we've got going on. And it's the people that are left-in-ones that are super close-minded about it. We're like, nope, that's not possible. I wasn't taught that. That can't be real. You're a conspiracy theory.

They love to paint me with that one. You're a rushing disinformation. They tried to pay me with that one, but I have a security clearance because of my job. So, like, I'm like, well, if I am, then the government did, like, a really thorough background check. They must have missed some major stuff out there. So, yeah, that's the part where it's like people really have to realize that they've been brainwashed to such a level where they've actually brainwashed on science itself and, like, the core fundamentals of our universe. And this is where I challenge people. It's like, I don't want people to believe the stuff I'm telling you.

like look at the evidences I've laid it out there. One of the saddest things is people will make up any story out there and people will believe it beyond. Like, I just made this story up about how orbs work or whatever. People are like, oh, this is so interesting. But when I come here with all this evidence and lay it out and tell you to think for yourself, then it's like, no, this guy's full of shit. He's a scammer.

He's a liar. I'm like, what? Like, I've never charged anybody. You go on any podcast. I don't have any membership set up or any of my social media. I'm just doing this to get information out. And so I just try to like wake up the people that are open-minded enough to get around it. And my goal, my motivation for this, I'm 42 years old almost this month.

And I want to, I don't want to die before we get to Star Trek world. Like Star Trek world is in our future. And I want to be there to see that happen. I've got, if I'm lucky, 40 years probably on this planet to go. And we got to get at it, man. Like, we got to get started with this. I want to go to Mars. I'm not going to personally be the one to go to Mars.

But you know what? let's send some of these other people out there to Mars, like, you know, empty this planet a little bit. Those people that want to go to Mars, get out of here. Yeah, sitting all the lives there. Yeah, you go live there and have to do that. But it's like, why is Elon Musk ignoring this? You know, like, this guy's talking about sending people to Mars,

going to becoming an interstellar species. Right. And I troll Elon Musk comments all the time. You guys actually helped me out to get his attention. And how weird was it his response? Like, I'm sitting here talking about U.S. has this technology. And his response is like, I've got these Starlink satellites.

We've never seen any evidence of aliens. And you were like, that's not what he's saying, though. Like he's talking about we've got this technology. Well, it turns out Elon Musk is like the number one defense contractor for the United States government between SpaceX. And he's like literally sending up spy satellites in outer space. So he would have an NDA where if that's real spy satellite footage, he can't even talk about it.

He can't even comment on it because of his NDAs. And this makes me very suspicious where like all the technology he's used. using. No offense, Elon, I still love you if you're out there, brother. But it's all obsolete, man. Rockets are obsolete. Trying to land rockets on platforms and have the seals clap. Oh, look at that. It's like all obsolete. We're talking about solar power is going to be the future. And, you know, we're going to make a Dyson sphere. Dyson spheres are so stupid. Like, solar is for primitives. Like, that's where people are like, oh, there's a fiery hot rock up there. Let's use that hotness for warmth. And you're like, no, bro. There is energy all around us. And we

It's basically unlimited, and we can just extract that. This is why when we look out in the sky, we don't see Dyson spheres everywhere. There's probably civilizations out there somewhere. We find zero Dyson spheres. And you can't hide them because of black body radiation. Everything gives off radiation. We would see them, even if they're blocking out a sun that's out there. And you go, well, any really advanced civilization beyond caveman level,

they're going to realize there's energy all around us, and they're just going to be extracting that energy. This is why the UFOs, if there are flying saucers, they're not. They don't have a fuel tank because it fuels all around them. Right. And I'm surprised Elon Musk doesn't see this. And I can't decide if he's... Well, maybe he's playing stupid. Yeah, I can't decide if he's playing stupid or if he really doesn't know.

But you have to look at it from both sides where, like, even very smart people have a very hard time accepting this because of that brainwashing. Even smart people like in Musk. Well, scientists don't want their beliefs challenged. Exactly. Yeah. They do not want that. They don't. And then, and I've talked to people from Congress.

And, you know, they've told me specifically, like, they talk to PhDs. and they're like, this isn't how quantum mechanics works or whatever. And I give them all the papers, and I'm like, yes, it is how quantum mechanics works. Because some people will say, well, you can't extract energy from the zero point fluctuation. The Casimir effect shows you absolutely can. Robert Forward in 1984 said, you know, you put two plates together. They will just attract because they push out some of that zero point fluctuation. Some of the wavelengths can't fit between the plates.

It's caused a negative pressure, which is also how we can explain that the zero point energy is causing what we know is gravity. And Robert Ford said, you can turn this mechanical energy into like a battery, basically, and you can extract it. Now, you can't repeatedly do it, but just the fact that you can extract it at all shows there's something there to pull out. And that's where Ken's shoulders came in with the plasma. It's like, well, we don't need plates. The plasma itself naturally creates this asymmetry that we need to pull energy out of there. It's just, that's why it's the fourth state of matter. It's got these weird unusual properties. So this is where it's like, conventional physics just breaks down.

And when you challenge people with this, they have no response. This is why I've challenged physicists. I've challenged investigators, MH-C70, and they're frankly afraid of me. I mean, they're afraid to talk to me because, you know, I'm going to come prepared in any kind of debate or what have you. And I want there to bring more attention to it because that's how we'll wake people up. Even if people are trying to ridicule, which is usually what people do, there are some people out there that are going to wake up from it. This is why I think Elon Musk doesn't comment because if he were to comment with his 200 million followers, like, how many people do you? you think it woke up just from that, even if it's 1%.

It's like 2 million people waking up. This is why the mainstream media has never reached out, because even if they try to ridicule me, it's not going to go well for them and people are going to wake up. This is why physicists and some of these investigators also don't want to do debates with me or platform either because they know that some people are going to wake up to it. And so that's why, you know, I'm laying down the gauntlet. Like, you know, if there's people out there that, you know, you want to argue with the physics, like I'm getting to the point now a year later where I'm comfortable even talking to

PhD physicists about it. Yeah, you've been sitting this for how long now? You know, if people think like, oh, you've been doing this for years, but it's just because I put so much time into it, like every waking moment outside of my nine to five, I'm researching mostly now the physics and the engineering size of it. And you have to know the electrical engineering and the physics side to really understand how it fits together because there is this electrical component to it. But I mostly started the science stuff in November of last year, so not even a full year.

The investigation to the plane started August of last year, so a little bit over a year at this point. And then people might ask, well, what do you want to get out of this? You know, like what, because how can the government admit this, you know? Like, I think there's a few ways it could go down is that the government were to admit it. Probably not going to happen, right? Although I would say that President Obama, he knows. Trump probably knows as well, to be honest with you.

And they don't want to get JFK'd most likely. they're not going to say anything because the intelligence agency is the one who really control this country. John Brennan was... Wow, that's, yeah, a lot of people. Well, John Brennan was the CIA director at the time, so he would know for sure. CIA would be in the know. The director of national intelligence would also be in the know. That was James Clapper at the time, so he knows for sure. The deputy director of the national intelligence was Avril Heinz under Obama. She was the one that was justifying the legal, giving the legal justifications for the, Obama to drone strike people in the Middle East and be like, oh, yeah, we're going to kill one terrorist

and 10 civilians, but it's legally justified to do that. Now she's Director of National Intelligence right now under Biden as well. So these people 100% know. And there's probably a lot more as well that know. But I name these people because I want people to ask them the hard questions. Like, what the hell happened to this plane? We know you know what happened to the plane. Why are we hiding technology from the public to put pressure on them. The other ways would be if Edward C. Lynn comes out. Like this is the guy I've identified as the leaker, 99.9% sure he's the guy. Everything checks out.

He's still alive, right? Hopefully he's still alive. As far as I know, you're going to get him killed. I'm trying not to. And this is why I haven't reached out more directly. I did try to call him one time last year. And somebody picked up the phone and hung up right away, which I went, oh, how do you fucking get my number?

It's not easier to find. find people than you guys might think, especially if you have an organization behind you, of people that are very dedicated and smart with the internet. And I've thought about going to his house or whatever to try to find him as well. But that's where I'm like, yeah, I feel like I might get blackbagged if that, if I do that, right? It might put him in danger as well. So, you know, I want if, but if he were to come out, that would pretty much prove it's got to be legit as well. And then the last way is the science. So if it turns out that Salvatore Pia's really made these orbs, then, you know, there's a world where he comes on as like, you know,

those patents, like you're seeing them in the videos right there in 2014, and they release those patents later on. Why? Because China and Russia already figured it out. So why not release the patents? You know, those patents were from 2016 to 2018. And they say it can't hurt to have those patents on it. And it might be, you might also have to say, well, if China and Russia figure this technology out, they don't want them to go patent that technology when we've been hiding in a secret because then it gets really awkward. We're like, no, we had it figured out before that, but we can't really prove it to you, you know? So you can see, so if he were to come out, that would be big. And the last way is like the science. You prove that the

science has really proved that zero point energy really explains gravity and that we can create a wormhole and warp drive, then how can you deny that the videos are real at that point? That's the thing that's holding people back. Yeah. They don't look like hoaxes to me. It looks. Yeah. And I appreciate your guys support on that. You know, like it's a lot of people are afraid, honestly, to, you know, platform or to even retweet the content, you know, just because the sensitive nature of it in general and they don't want to get ridiculed. Oh, you think those things are real, blah, blah, blah. I actually don't know. Dude had a dude on his show, he believes the earth is flat. There you go. The flat earthers loved me when I said that the ether was real, but then when I said,

no, like, we have to have curvature in order for like warp drives and wormholes. And they hated me again. I'm like, oh, man, can't win with anybody on either side of this thing, right? Can't win with the mainstream people. Can't win with the people that think the earth is flat. Like, oh, boy. Yeah, this technology makes you think like what other technologies out there that we have no evidence of. Yeah. Like, I mean, I think Alex Jones was talking about, Jane editing. Yeah. A goat person. A goat spotter he was talking about.

Yeah. It's like really crazy stuff. And that's the thing, too, is like people know that, like, the military is like decades more advanced than the public. Right. The question is, what does that look like? What is that, right? I think it's easy to say, well, they probably had AI before we've had it. That would have been weird to say in 2014

where everyone thought AI is like 100 years out. It was a movie kind of thing. Yeah, but now we see it all over. And then that's the part that you ever have to ask, especially with cloning. Like, why did we ban cloning under George Bush? You know, that was 20 years ago. Republicans banning everything is good.

Why are we banning all this stuff? They're banning that. I'm going to have a little mini-mee going on. We can do some, like, basically everything you see in Star Trek is definitely possible. Cloning is something you see in Star Trek as well. and then yeah I think the stuff with like the war drives and the wormholes like I tell people truth is stranger the fiction and this is the part where people you could argue that some of this stuff on TV and movies they're pushing it out there to get people more and more comfortable with the idea and this is why I say like man when I saw those videos at first I was also like most people at first see them go there's no way it's going to be real but the more you look into you're like the truth is strange of the fiction and like this explains a lot of why we would hide this and what that type of technology might look like and then the real kicker for me was once you've find out about Hal Poodoff and Eric Davis and these guys that have been, these guys are working with NASA.

They're working in private labs. They're super credential. Like their histories, it's mostly impeccable except for the remote viewing stuff, which people think is in the woo. But shit, man, if you tell me we can make warp drives and wormholes, okay, I'm going to go look at that remote viewing stuff one more time. Like, I'm not big into psychic powers, but like, Ben Rich famously, he was a director of Lockheed Martin Skunkworks, which is like the super secret area of Lockheed Martin.

And he said, somebody asked him, like, he said, we have the capability to take ET home. We, all this stuff, anything you've ever seen in Star Trek is possible, but it's locked up in all these black projects and we take an act of God to get out. And somebody asked him, like, what do you mean by that? Because that's a pretty crazy claim. Right. And he goes, well, how do you think ESP works? And the guy says, I don't know, all points in space and time are connected. And he goes, exactly.

And you're like, oh, wow, okay. Because now you look at it, like all this physics I just laid out here, you go, okay, space isn't empty. there's this huge amount of energy that's out there that we can tap into and potentially get free energy. We're not coming from nowhere, coming from there. And then all points in space and time are connected. So there's this extra dimension that we see out there that Kaluza Klein found out about in 1926.

And they said this is how you unify all these forces. And we don't see it because it's below our perceptible level. And if you look about extra dimensions and try to perceive them, it's a lot more complicated than just everything we see is all. there is, you know? And if you can actually make a wormhole where you teleport from one location on the next, the only way that makes sense is that everything really is connected behind the scenes and we don't perceive it. And quantum entanglement's already proven this. I would even argue that the double slit experiment, which is where we got quantum entanglement, non-locality, faster

in the speed of light communication, those ideas from, like that proves that concept. The only way you can have this wave function break down as just us observable. is that time and distance itself must be an illusion that we only perceive because of our biological bodies. And the last thing I'll say on that is that when you manipulate the zero point energy, you pull energy out of it, which can be free energy if you want to think of it. You create these anti-gravitational effects because the zero point energy explains gravity. You also manipulate time because our flow of time is based on gravity. It's based on how much gravity we're near, like the movie Interstellar.

the more mass or energy, mass and energy are interchangeable, that you're near, the slower your rate of time. The less there is, the faster your rate of time is like spinning a dial. And so this is what we call time dilation, which has been experimentally proven. And if you really stretch it to its extreme, now you're like, well, this is kind of time travel where I could go in a wormhole. And it's like me walking through the doorway. And now I'm on Mars, but it might be like eight minutes later than where I was before. And so what have I done in that situation? I've traveled to the future from my perspective, right?

From other people's perspective, it's like, whoa, what did you just do? You're the same age you were a second ago, about eight minutes have now passed. And this is what they call the twin paradox. Right. So when you're talking about these UFOs and you're talking about zero point energy and, you know, faster and light travel, you're really talking about time travel. Right. But it's not as simple as like, I'm going to go back to the 1940s and, you know, kill my parents.

It's mostly like, you're changing your time. time. Right. Just you is what's going back in time. Not all the rest of the universe isn't going back in time. You know what's crazy about that? I watched this movie called Planet Apes. I think it was the very first one with Charlton Heston.

He left Planet Earth and it was, I guess, I was going to speed a lot. You saw that movie, right? And then he didn't know he was back on Earth, but it was like 2000. Spoiler alert. Yeah. He goes back and he finds the Statue of Liberty buried. Right. Now monkeys are ruling the world, right?

That's exactly how time dilation works. If I were to go to, let's say, another galaxy, like an dromeda galaxy, super far away, and come back, I would imagine that even if I go faster in the speed of light, I'm going to come back and civilization is not going to be here anymore. Now it's going to be a completely different civilization. I'm going to travel to the future just like that movie. That's what's scary about faster than light travel in general is that you have to take the time dilation into account. And you could argue, well, if there were aliens that visited us, they're going to also. experience time dilation as well. So some of these people that throw these dates out there and they say, oh, well, aliens are, you know, 2027 is when it's all going to go down. Well, it is kind of weird to

think, like, if they visited us in the 50s and then they went back to their home planet, you could do the math and figure out when they were, if they were to make it a return trip, like when they would show up based on our time. It's pretty bizarre to think about. Also bizarre to think about, like, rate of, what does time even mean at this point then? Like, we're experiencing time based on our Earth than our gravity, but another planet with a different level of gravity is going to experience time at a different rate. Do you guys see the three-body problem by any chance? No. So, spoiler on this.

I'm going to spoil it for you guys. So there's alien species that's coming to us from Alpha Centauri, which is the closest star system to us. And they don't have, it's kind of stupid because they don't think they can do faster than my travel, what you can. So they're using SpaceX rockets or really fast ones. It's going to take them 400 years to get here. and they're super advanced, much more advanced than we are. And they send these, I don't know, photons or something to us, and they build these machines to monitor us.

And they're afraid of us, even though there's so much more advanced. And the reason is because in that period of time, it takes them to get here, we're going to figure their technology out and we're going to get more advanced than they are. So by the time they show up, we're now more advanced than they are. So even though it seems like we are ants to them and bugs to them, like we're going to advance beyond them. And if you look at this from the time-dilation perspective, too, you're like, huh, now it's kind of weird if you were to think about other civilizations. You have to keep this idea into account.

We're like, oh, is their time moving faster? Because they're going to evolve faster and they're going to get smarter faster as well. So you really have to keep that in mind when you're thinking about other aliens and living on other planets and stuff like that because it just throws, makes everything just very bizarre. Right. I look at it like this. If aliens do come here, we're just screwed. That's the part too. if you have this kind of technology.

People are like, oh, we should be afraid of the alien invasion or whatever. I'm like, bro, if they've got this technology, we got no chance, man, not unless we reverse engineer and figure it back out. So what's the point of me worried or like there's a lot of people who talk about the poles shifting or these cataclysmic events? And I'm like, there ain't nothing we can do about that. Right. Why would I worry about that?

It's the same reason why people are like, are you afraid that they're going to take you out or whatever. I'm like, I'm not going to live my life in fear. I'm just going to live my normal life and do whatever the hell I want to do. whatever happens what happens were to happen like the thing I've learned from this

is we should appreciate the time we have on this planet I think that our reality is a construct I think that there is a creator I think it is basically proves there must be and the most important

precious stuff we have is the time that we have with the people that we care about on this planet so a man can have a baby I don't know if I go that far maybe if you get some of that Alex Jones gene editing

going on mix them with a goat or something like I'm not sure that's not my area of expertise honestly what I tell people too is like man after I'm done with this like I've done enough for humanity bro if I reveal like you know warp drives and wormholes and free energy bro

I'm going straight to you know memes of dogs and cats and you know stuff isn't as deep as all of this I've done my part right yeah it's it's weird because we see everything from the construct of living and growing up on planet earth when there's so much out there if you just open your eyes up

100%. Yeah, the world is a lot scarier a place, darker a place, but also more magical place as well. And that's what I would challenge people out there is that a lot of people have this view of like, we're so advanced, we've figured it all out. It's like, no, we're primitives. We've only figured out that much more time. We are primitives and we have so much further to go. And that's why I posted earlier today on Twitter, this clip of Bob Greenier, the guy who's in low-energy nuclear reactions. And he goes, if this is true, we have the most amazing future ahead of us. And I think that we really do.

We're really just, as a civilization, just starting this journey right now. Yeah, I mean, it'd be an amazing feature if it falls in the right hands. And that's the part two is like when people say, well, you know, isn't it dangerous to risk to reveal this? And I'm like, it's already in the worst people's hands, this technology, right? Do you trust the CIA and the intelligence agencies and the people and the, it's not just presidents? Yeah, yeah.

And it's not just them too. What I would tell people is that the private military contractors and like the energy companies, like the way it really works is that these people have clicks and they know on all the people that are in power and these very powerful companies, the intelligence agency people, and then the bought-out politicians, they form this what I call covert administrative elite. Like I know for a fact that there are rich people that know that free energy devices are possible. And it's not just cold fusion. You can make magnetic motors as well because functionally what you're doing is you're churning up.

that ether. You're churning up that zero point energy. It's a matter of just extracting it, using the right circuit design on the back end, which if people want a hint on that, I would say, look at what Tesla's designs were. As far as I'm comfortable going and talking about this, but there are people that are connected to very smart people and what have you. And the reason why I don't generally name a lot of those people, even though I know some of them are, is like those are the people where you start naming them and then your life expectancy cuts down significantly, like very, very significantly out there. But yeah, they know.

And if people want to know who to press on this, like I've already listed off some of the people. But I would also press anybody who's in the Senate Intelligence Committee. Yeah, the gang of eight is what some of them call. Like Chuck Schumer knows 100% that we've got technology like this. Marco Rubio knows as well. And this shouldn't be surprising for people who are in the UFO community because these guys are people who are outspoken. Like Chuck Schumer is trying to push this UFO bill. What they're trying to do is they're trying to get amnesty for the people that have been hiding this shit.

because if it comes out that they've been hiding it, like Lockheed Martin, you know, North of Grumman, these people have this stuff, there's going to be lawsuits like crazy because it's going to be like, wait, the U.S. government's been working with these people, giving them technology, potentially helping them out. They're giving them a competitive advantage.

So they're going to get lawsuits. There might be criminal charges for people. That's why they're trying to pass these UFO bills or whatever. They're not for disclosing stuff. They're for protecting rich people. Marco Rubio is talking about their stuff in our airspace or whatever. And the part that a lot of these politicians don't get is it's us. Like they look at this stuff like even Matt Gates. He was in the UFO here. There's a video that only I've seen

that talks about like an orbs in a triangle formation or a diamond formation. And he's going, it's otherworldly technology, what have you. And sure, if you don't understand zero point energy or any of the stuff that I described, then of course it seems like aliens. But now that we've had this conversation for like an hour and a half or two hours, you realize, oh, no, there is this history of like, we figured this out, and there might be this suppression that's trying to get us to believe that it's aliens so that people like Matt Gates and Congress see that. People in Congress have no idea, like no idea at all. They don't have, a lot of them don't even have security clearances, and that's why Matt Gates

was like the only people, one of the only people to see it. I truly hope Nancy Mace and AOC see this, because I think that they're going to be the Republican and Democrat, like, chairs on the next UFO hearings in November, which, by the way, I will be live streaming. and any of these Congress people are asking stupid questions about telepathic aliens, I'm going to drag them so hard. They need to be asking questions about zero point energy. They need to be asking questions about cold fusion and exotic vacuum objects. They need to be interviewing engineers, not dudes who had weird experiences with telepathic aliens.

That's not pushing the ball forward. Like pushing the ball forward is get us this technology to the public. And you're going to find, you know, follow the money. You're going to find out that that's where all this stuff goes for sure. they should be compelling Hal Poodoff to speak. Because this guy's the godfather. And even if he has NDAs, like he'll be able to say enough that people will be able to put it together and go, okay, yeah, like there's some crazy technology going on. All right.

Well, this has been an eye-opening conversation. Where can people find you? I'm on all the social medias now. I just started Instagram and TikTok, even though I don't know that. Well, right now you own social media. Yeah, for now. I'm worried about TikTok especially. But yeah, at JustX Ashton on all social media platforms.

I live stream three times a week on YouTube. I do Malaysian Airlines Monday, Secret Science Wednesday, and Free Energy Friday. Some of my favorite topics to discuss. You can find all my old live streams on there as well. You can find my hard truth's podcast on YouTube as well. If you want to interact with me, though, X, Twitter is the one number one space. Elon Musk is probably the only social media platform. We have real free speech.

And even though I think he might be controlled by the government, he at least hasn't banned me yet or let them ban me. So I will give him a pass on that front out there. So if you want to interact, that's the best place to find me. Thank you guys so much for having me. Oh, thank you for coming. Thank you for coming. Thank you.