Hodgetwins Podcast - TWINS POD CLIP | Ben Shapiro Vs Alex Jones? Who Is Real and Who Is Fake?

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

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Time for Twinspot. Yeah. That's crazy. I don't believe any of that. Hey, is Ben Shapiro? Is he beefing with Alex Jones? Yeah, yeah. He's a massage operative.

I mean, every question you'll ask me. It's like, guys. Let's see, what is Ben Shapiro's beef with Alex Jones? It's the, yeah, Alex is the real deal and Ben is not. That's where the beef comes from. That's where it stems from. I mean, he is very. It's frustrating because he is very deliberately taking things out of context when it comes to Alex.

Like one thing people keep, like they'll always bring up is during his custody battle like a decade ago, Alex's lawyer made the case that he was playing a character. And so people say, see, nothing Alex says is real. And it's like literally cannot be further from the truth. Alex off camera is exactly the same as Alex on camera. That was very specifically about Alex's, and I probably shouldn't even tell him the story because I don't know the details totally. but basically Alex's ex-wife was showing video or taking comments of Alex when he was like dressed up like the Joker or dressed up in like an alien mask going, I'm going to rape your women. And she was presenting that as if it was real. And the lawyer was saying, no, he's playing a character at that moment.

He's putting on a show at that moment. Not that everything he believes is fake. So anyway, that's just a very longstanding slur of Alex Jones. And so that's what Ben Shapiro was saying. He was like, if you're watching Alex Jones and just act like it's a W-DWWE match that you're. watching, then that's fine. But if you think it's real, then you're stupid and it makes you stupider. That's literally what he said. So he's scared. So they're scared. And now they're bringing out the claws because they don't know what time it is. They think they still have the ability

to smear people like that. Alex has been proven the real deal over and over more than anybody else. Man, he's been doing a long time. He's actually, I found some old videos of him actually out front of the incident happened in Waco, Texas. I said, wow, he's been doing this a long time. He was actually covering that story as it unfolded way back then. When he was like the only one who saw it. There was no internet, no nothing he was doing it. Yeah, with local access on Austin Television. Do you see the video of him confronting the FBI agent at Waco?

There's a great video where he's going, you don't think we know, but the American people are no and you're not going to get away with this. It's good. Yeah, and I remember when the Waco TV show came out and was super popular, I was watching some old clips of the guy that wrote the book, Tibido, the author of the book that the show was based on, and he's giving talks in like 1999 or whenever, and he's going, yeah, there's this local guy,

Alex Jones, it's helping to rebuild the church and really getting the awareness out. Like, Alex has been in it for literally decades, like three decades. Yeah, the FBI went and slaughtered all those people. Yeah, burned them to death. Just because they had guns in there.

Yeah, there's just a community. It was living their own lives. Nobody was in danger. No Second Amendment for you. Yeah, and he just went in and slaughtered those people. Yeah, it was after Ruby Ridge. It was a lot of, they thought it was going to be positive press coverage,

but it backfired on him yeah yeah big time and it grew Alex Jones too yeah and then Biden actually forget the guy's name but he actually hired him appointed the guy yeah appointed the guy FBI director right mm-hmm or I'm not sure what he was I think it was ATF director yeah yeah yeah that's like that's crazy yeah who like had pictures standing on the smoldering rubble yeah like a trophy hunter yeah yeah yeah slain man hey uh Joe you have a picture uh not a picture of video of what Ben Shapiro thinks about Epstein. I do. Oh, that should be interesting.

He says, get over it. Get over it, you guys. Don't worry about it. It's fine. Ben Chirpireo says that. We now have the answers. And the problem is this. People who never hedged their bets. People who never at any point suggested to you that they don't have data to back up the speculation, that the speculation was in and of itself, the conclusion that if you

speculate without evidence that that amounts to an actual conclusion to an investigation. They're going to be very upset today because it turns out that the DOJ and the FBI have concluded that Epstein didn't have a client list and died by suicide. According to a memo detailing the client's campaign by accident. Does this put to bed? Like all inquiries? Of course not. People can continue to speculate as much as they want.

And I think there's still open questions here regarding how did Epstein make his money? That's a very serious open question. The speculation for a long time was he made his money from blackmail. But the DOJ and the FBI again run. by people like Dan Bonino and Cash Patel and Pam Bondi are telling you. They are telling you. I'm not telling you. They're telling you people who are members of the Trump administration, people you elected and put into these positions to get you the truth on this matter, are telling you that he didn't, in fact, he was not murdered. He did not keep a clientless.

And he did not blackmail powerful figures. That is the thing that they are saying, not I. They are saying this. Yeah, because they know, he knows that by I believe that over and they're saying their line. This isn't me. Masad operative Vin Shapiro saying. Don't believe me, believe them. I know you're not going to believe me. You present your evidence that they are in fact lying

because I know Dan. I don't think that Dan Bojino is lying to me. I know Cash Patel a little bit. I don't think Cash Patel is lying to me. I don't think these people are lying to me. Which means that if somebody else continues to claim that they're lying, they ought to provide their evidence at this point. And now is the point in which the facts on the ground have changed.

And so either you ought to shift your opinion based on the facts that have now emerged. Those are not facts. The facts on the ground. What is that even supposed to be? Literally nothing. And they haven't even changed. That was always the official story. The official story was always that he killed himself.

I mean, it genuinely doesn't make any sense if Gailene Maxwell was convicted and is in prison right now for trafficking children. Who did she trafficked them to? Like, yeah. I mean, it's just absurd. It's just nonsense. But here's the thing. Here's the trick. You know, Ben Shapiro was talking about where Jeffrey Epstein got his money and says, you know, maybe through blackmail.

No, the money led to the blackmail, not the other way around. He was given a chunk of change. I mean, he was gifted the most expensive house in New York City, right? By Lex Wexner in the mega group. So like, so he was given a chunk of change and told you are now established as a billionaire investor. That is your in to talk to and seduce these rich and, you know, wealthy people. Now, Ben Shapiro, on the other hand, is given a chunk of change and told you are going to go and seduce the white Christian conservatives into endless support of Israel and discredit all of our enemies while supposedly on their side. So these are how operations are run.

One's a blackmail operation with, you know, honey traps. And the other is, you know, an operation to make you look like a very popular and successful podcaster. So you can have an ability to sway of the American people. towards Israel. Damn. He's an operative. There are two different operatives running two different schemes

for the same country and the same purpose. Oh man, Mark Levin, he didn't lost his mind. He'd been lost it. He was always been nuts. He was calling the Aetola and he was calling people

Hitler and Nazis. Well, might as well, right? He might as well. It makes you think like, wow, why would you... That, like, discredit everything happened in World War II. Why would you go to that load that called them Nazis? Yeah.

Well, it's what they have. It's why... What works? It's why Mamdani is the only one who is not pro-Israel on the stage, because the Holocaust is this incredibly powerful guilt hammer that they slam down, specifically on white people, white Europeans, to say, you know... Yeah. They invoke Hitler or invoke Holocaust.

So you're not allowed to criticize Israel anymore. And you have Muslims who are not as indoctrinated into that, willing to just go, no, Israel is bad. It's not actually that. I'm not committing the Holocaust by saying that, actually. Yeah, yeah. I don't think they've labeled me as a Holocaust denier yet. You'll get there.

Yeah. You don't have to actually have to do that for them to call you that. So you'll get there. Don't worry about it. It's true. I've been called everything else. I'm like, I'm sure that's the next. This is the craziest thing.

I went up to Seb Gorka, Sebastian Gorka at CPAC in like 2020, I think. And I'm just like, oh, it's Seb Gorka, here, film. I'm going to go talk to him. And I go up. And I guess he thought I was trying to do some like, you know, ambush thing to him. Because he was like, no, you're awful. You should be kicked out. And he was like, you work for Info Wars.

Alex Jones is friends with Nick Fuentes. Nick Fuentes made a joke about the Holocaust that was written by his super chatter, right? So some guy's superchats a Holocaust joke. Nick Fuentes reads it. Alex Jones is associated with Nick Fuentes I'm associated with Alex Jones so I'm now a Holocaust scenario that's four or five degrees of separation from a joke

hinting at the idea of Holocaust denial makes me then tainted with that with that disease and I'm now a Holocaust Nair myself from that Oh has he? I haven't noticed Well I probably forgot He's a fucking irrelevant

Yeah yeah I probably forgot He's a gay whale She's a gay whale Bring a picture up for him It works Sebastian Gorka Jay whale Yeah

I don't know why Alex started calling him a gay whale One time Really? Oh really? Yeah, he's a gay whale Gorka the Orca Oh

Oh I get There he is Sebastian The gay whale gorga Oh that turd He's a That's what you call A sycophon

For Trump Mm-hmm That's one thing I don't like I don't like Sikophon zealots Because they destroy Everything

they touch. Well, and you know what's weird, you know, Levin was a never-Trumper, but now Levin's on some national security board. So it's like the people that have actually been there supporting Trump, I mean, during Alex's trial, the bankruptcy trial, they brought on experts to explain just how influential Alex was and getting Trump elected. And like the things they said, they were like, Alex and Info Wars did more to get Trump elected than like Rush Limbaugh and Stephen Crowder and the next five people combined by a factor of like four. Like, and these are people that literally, I mean, there are people that literally spend all day, every day, five days a week, just studying Info Wars and like trying to figure out how our information pilfer's through the internet. And they were presented, you know, presented all that. I forgot where I was going with that. But, but it's all about, uh, oh yeah. Well, so, so, so, you know, Alex got Trump elected. I mean, he's never, he's not going to come on us on Info Wars anytime soon, right? Alex isn't about to be welcomed into the White House and some national security thing. So it's weird. It's like Trump. is more favorable towards people who hated him and, like, argued against him,

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