Hodgetwins Podcast - TWINS POD CLIP | Ex-Meth Head Talks About His Time In Jail and How He Changed His Life

Episode Date: June 19, 2025

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Yeah. Do it, bitch. Unsaid it, bitch. You do it better than me. Yeah. You know, white people make you uncomfortable, right? I'm, like, very hard to make uncomfortable. You can say some of the most racist things in front of me jokes, and I wouldn't be offended.

That's good. And they were, I noticed, like, when I get around certain white people, when he first men, how you doing, brother? Let's let you. He started talking jive to him. I'm like, dude, I don't even talk like that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like an airplane. I speak jive. Yeah, crazy. Well, mostly the woke white people try that hard. Yeah. I mean, they're that fucking bad because they're not used to it. And that's, I mean, that's, you know, I'm not the only person who's come up with this, but I think it's pretty clear they want to keep people on the plantation.

They want to keep people part of that party, you know, the, the rise of the black middle class would be fucking great. It would be great for this country. It would be great for the world. better for neighborhoods. Better for a lot of things. Crime will go down. But no, it was just like, and that's something that was happening that they put the kibosh on.

You know, and it's sad. Too much help can actually kill your aspirations to try harder. Yeah, that's what, I mean, to get really serious. Like one of the things I observed, well, obviously in prison, it's mostly black people. Like they are the majority. And then there's the Latin people who are. split into ones for Mexico and Chicano's who ate each other's fucking guts. That's so weird.

It is so weird. And then there's white guys. And, you know, it's, it's a mix, but there's definitely the Aryan racist, crazy motherfuckers with swastikas on their fucking foreheads. It's like, well, you're going to be here the rest of your life. Yeah. Hope you live. I remember I got locked up because I didn't want to sign a ticket.

I was like, I was early 20s, early 20s, just total Democrat. right? And I went to jail overnight and a number of black guys and all the Mexican guys had tattoos all over their face and they were illegal, it couldn't speak word of English, and then there was one Asian guy. We was in this room looking

at TV and I looked over at the Asian guy. He's just sitting back looking at everybody. It's like, with this looking, like, what the hell is wrong with me? Why am I here? I'm a tax evader. Yeah. I didn't see any white guys. Really?

All black Latinos, Southern California, jail. One Asian guy. There's not a lot. There was not a lot. And what's crazy is so I don't remember seeing an Asian guy once in prison. Like I know there was because there's Asian gangs in San Francisco. They're horrible. But I just don't think they're caught.

They're smarter. They're smarter. I saw a lot of a lot of Native Americans, Indians in there. There's quite a few and they're pretty cool, actually, to hang out with. But what I said, God, it was all. segregated when I was in. So it was like in the 90s. So white guy with white guy, black guy with black guy. And you didn't like sometimes you got a solo cell because they just couldn't parry up. And you know. Yeah. And but the thing I, I noticed is the vast majority are black and it's,

it's it's it's it's ever see trading places? They kind of like go, is it environmental? Is it? It's both. Right. It's fucking both. Yeah. And what you have is a bunch of law. And it's a bunch of lost young men with no fucking hope. Like zero hope. And across the board, there's abuse, there's no dad. Rarely do you have a case like me who's just a fuck up who had a good dad. Right. But it's, and it's sad.

And I have no answer for it. Prison's not the answer. Whatever they keep voting in in California where I was for decades and decades, not the fucking answer. A lot of these jails in California heard is for profit. They're private institutions and they got these people working and not paying them anything

and they're making money off the product that they're producing it in jail. It's crazy. Kamala Harris was putting a bunch of people in there keeping them long, keep them in longer, but she is just one of many. They talk about the slave labor in there.

It's like, listen. I worked, I was glad, like, rehabilitation worked on me and I got a good job because I could read. And this was a long time ago and I could type so I got a dollar a day and I was happy to get it. I roll up get my cart in the smokes and my top ramen and I was pretty fucking happy. Good old days. Good old days.

You know, when you can smoke in there, got your bugler, you rolled your cigarettes. Yeah. But you can't smoke down for a fucking prison would really suck without smoking. Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah. I'm not going back there. No, but it's super corrupt.

I always tell the story when I was, uh, And this will be in the book. I was in, I was in Folsom, old Folsom. What were you in there for? Okay. So I,

I, I, uh, it's bad. Okay. Like, you seem like a great guy. I wasn't before.

I was a hopeless drug addict. Oh, super meth head. But it was like meth today. It's crank. I was on crank. Dude, I'm too much of a pussy to take meth.

It's fucking terrible. And my mom used to wake me up every night. My mom used to wake me up. not shitting you. Two, three in the morning. You didn't do any drugs, did you? You're not a homosexual, are you? Every night, my mom would wake me up.

Could you ask me in the morning? It's like crazy. She's so worried. She just had to wake us. She just had to wait. Three in the morning. Yeah. Still straight, son, are you? I like, Bob, I promise I'm not gay. Mom, I love crushing pussy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's, where was it? Okay. So, I got busted for first degree burglary twice. So twice within like a year. So the couple years. So did a lot of other like, like, well, not minor.

But a lot of stuff that got dropped that just got dropped. White privilege, huh? White privilege. For real. No, the first one was it really wasn't me. So the first time I got busted, like bad, was I had some Batman handcuffs, hanging from my car, this cop who fucking hated me, pulled me over for it.

And the dealer was behind me and he was not supposed to bring in his scale and all that shit. He had his fucking scale. He had three ounces of crank. So he told, of course he told the cops it was mine, a fucking piece of shit. Yeah. So I'm like,

fuck. So I have to go in. I go in and my dad gets me this lawyer once and it gets dropped. You know, and it's not because that guy admitted it. took care of him later. I took care of his ass later. I took care of his ass later.

Son of a bitch. I waited, but a couple of years. So that was the start. And then I really graduated into getting high and I didn't have a job, needed money. I was car hopping and I decided to go to the big leagues. Is it true that they say marijuana is a gateway drug to everything else? I mean, it was for me.

Yeah. It was. Because I'm like, this is cool, but it's not good enough. And then I took that crank and it's like, for one, it's only good ones. It sucks every single time after that. Oh, you're trying to be good. But it's, yeah, I like speed. I like being up, doing stuff.

Right. But it's fucking hard. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's, it keeps you going. Dude, I did these are silly stuff in 7-Eleven. They call them mini-thans. You remember that?

It was meth. Was it? You remember that? I remember that, yeah. We used to work long hours. Many of the truck drivers used to take it. It was meth in a pill and he used to sell it in 7-Eleven. It later got banned, but I took like eight of them.

And I took like five showers. I kept walking around the house. My mom was like, what the hell is wrong with you? What did you take? Are you on drugs? I'm like, no, no, no drugs. I'm not on drugs. I bought this stuff at 7-Eleven.

Yeah. Yep, that's it. Wow. I could not. Sit still. I felt like something was crawling in my hair. I went up the street, had sex with the ugliest white woman on the planet. And I came home.

I called Keith. I was depressed. I was a Keith. I took these middithines. These middithans. I can't sit still. I ran to the girl. Her name was,

last name Mullins. I said, bad. I had sex with her. I said, but I don't know what you do. And you're blaming it on the many things. That wasn't a likely story.

Yeah. Chief said, go ahead. Kill yourself. Yeah, what's her name? She looked like Stephen Hawkins. The guy in the wheelchair? Yeah.

But he wasn't in a wheelchair. She was like six foot two. Oh shit. She was hideous. And all the black guys in high school knew her because they all used to do in the bathroom. She was the biggest slut ever. Hey, she had, I respect her game. I do.

I just knew I had AIDS for the longest. I said all those black guys, she's got to have AIDS. Oh shit. Hey, man, back to your story. So crank, not much better. Right. Not much better. feel wired.

Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, when I first did in high school, I was getting a bunch of fucking homework done, which I never did. Yeah, yeah,

yeah. But it just, you know, it's snowballed, bad pun, but like it, and I had to like do, I was born in an addict,

so everything I did to an extreme, and I couldn't get up in the morning without doing a line. And once I ran out, like every other addict, my life became fine next thing. So I need to pay for it. So I started breaking in the houses,

which is not really smart, especially, you know. You're looking for stuff to pawn and stuff? Yeah, yeah. And the best stuff was when people are home. So you had to be really careful because, for one, like when I was never going into, I never had a weapon or anything. It's like, I'm not going to hurt anybody.

That's not what I'm about. I'm just here to steal some shit. Sorry. Pay for my drugs. Nothing personal. It's just addiction. And I did that and got away with it, you know. And then I didn't.

I broke into a house and I got caught. And it's dumbest fucking story, but, uh, fuck, it's dumb. We all got dumb stories. No, this is dumb. This is fucking dumb. The first, I got blocked it out of my mind how fucking dumb this is. The first house I broke into was my parents' neighbor who knew me from when I was this big. And I stole their big, uh, you know, water bottles used to be I made out of glass.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. pennies to count that we didn't have penny counting machines it was to count them out right to get some drugs right and i got caught doing that and and like that was my dad's like you're oh fucking embarrassing shameful right they knew again they they babysat me when i was a kid and they all were in there when i got sent the whole blueprint in that house right the whole yes and that was the blueprint of fucking up and uh they're all there in the courtroom my mom's crying i was fucking whole whole horrible. So I go to a year for county jail for that first one because that's, they weren't home, but that was still considered first degree burglary. And it got, I got a, you know,

reduced sentence. It was supposed to get like two years the first time. I got one year. White privilege. White privilege. And I ended up in fire camp. And it was, that part was like not bad, you know, until I got hurt, got out, was all in shape, feeling great, started getting high like immediately. Yeah, because she was clean the whole time. Clean the whole time. Getting more girls than I ever got before because I was all like fire camp shape and young.

Yeah. And then I just started partying again. And within a year, uh, I broke into this house. Uh, it was another ex-girlfriend. He broke in another. Can you only break in people's house? You know. I know.

I got to know where I'm going. And, uh, I didn't need to. I had like tons of money and drugs on my possession. At the time. And I just had the itch. I'm like, let's do something wrong. And that was fucking stupid. So I get in, don't even know what the hell I'm going to take, right?

And this little dog is barking. I'm like, fuck. So best guard dogs are little dogs. I know. I guess you risk getting a kill, but I wasn't going to kill a dog. Yeah. I'll just get out of smoke. Yeah.

So I'm just like, I'm going to get the fuck out. So I go out the same way I came in, like side door of the garage. Uh-huh. Hit the door knob. Doornob falls off in my hand. I'm like. Fuck. And I had no time. Owner comes out.

Gun in my face. I see the freaking chain. I'm like, oh shit. It's shaking. I'm like, I'm dead. He's going to blow my fucking head off. And the cop comes in. Cop saves my life. Cop saves my life. He's like, sir, sir, sir. Put the guy down. And I'm like,

you're like, thank God the cops are here. Thank God the cops are here. Yeah, no shit. And a guy saved my life. And he's like, you know, he's member of the Navy pistol team. He could have blowing your head off from 200 yards or something like that. Yeah. Well, thanks.

Thanks for telling me that. That's great. Yeah. Tell my mom, I'll see her in a couple years. And I knew it. Like, right then,

I'm like, well, that's it. That's it. How much time you get? I got a four-year sentence. You do a little over two if you're good, which I was mostly good.

Right. Actually, I didn't get penalized for the time I was considered bad. But, what is life like in prison? Oh, really boring. boring, mundane, occasionally interrupted by sheer moments of terror. Violence.

Violence. Yeah. By the blacks, right? Mostly. No, no. No, actually, my biggest problem was with the white dude. But it was, yeah, no, there was race riots. Oh, those are fun.

Really? Those are fun. And you're like, wow. You're like, what if I don't want to participate in the race riot? And they're like, you don't have a choice. I'm like, I don't really, I'm not in love with our team. either you know I was like I don't like anybody right but um no there's uh Rodney King when when the LA riots happened and fucking Folsom blew up and it was a movie so it's

really also old Folsom prisons set up like any other prisons it's teared you know there's tears that go up a few few stories right and dude the the mattresses are coming down flaming things of toilet paper like wow this is just like the movies and it sucks this is just like terrified and yeah so the riots hit inside the prison like people went fucking ape shit and uh well they started attacking guards so they locked everybody down um the rubble rubber bullets came out i saw that only one time uh in fulsome you get the rubber bullets and then you get the real ones and i saw the real ones come out once no really dead dead oh really seen someone yeah yeah there was some crazy yeah yeah you got he got his head blown off what was the turn point for you's like you know

I had enough to do this. First day in prison. I was like, fuck this. Like county jail, it didn't really sink in. Right. You know,

because I ended up like going to fire camp. And then I went to like, after I got injured, I went to this really posh fucking halfway house. I was kind of nice. Yeah. This is better than the last apartment I was in. Yeah.

And girls work here. Shit. But, uh, no, like first day. Uh, when I get,

uh, I was, I wasn't receiving for four months. I got lost in the, system and then they then I'm on this bus trip from san diego to the fucking sacramento to fulsome 16 hours 12 hours can't even remember wow uh ankles chained chained going to the bathroom was a complete pain in the ass i'd like had no feeling on my legs uh yeah it was right about then and my first my first um uh when we when they rolled in they got us off

the bus they opened the gate and that like you're facing all the tears this is it like show sank redemption Oh, totally. They parade the fish. They're called the fish, the new guy. So that's just true. Oh, yeah, they parade you right in front of fucking everybody. New fish. This motherfucker, like, talking right to me because I, like, at the time, long, straight, beautiful blonde hair.

He's all, hey, goody luck. Do you want to try my sack lunch? I'm like, fuck this. I'm getting a haircut tomorrow. Yeah. Took a couple days. I had to pay, you know, and just got, like, and, yeah, it was terrifying. and it sucked and it was lonely and uh read a lot of books though i i kept my i i took

the advice that a guy you know there's some kindness in there yeah so there's some people in there like this because i was a kid i was in my early 20s so i think there's some people who were still human and kind of took me aside and go listen kid yeah don't mess with any uh don't mess with the gays don't do any drugs don't gamble and you'll be okay you'll be okay just mind your fucking business. Mine. That's what my dad, my mom told me. Business.

And I got, I turned it into an art form. Whatever I saw, I didn't see shit. Yeah. I didn't, you don't tell and you, you'll be okay. If you don't fuck with that stuff, they'll mostly leave you alone. Like, I had like little round glasses. So they were calling me John Lennon or John Denver. And they saw me as this is like really bookish, dork, which I kind of, I was.

I was. You know, but, and the other thing he said is like, you know, if you, if, if, if, if, If a fight comes along, you've got to fight. Just like, just grin and bear it. You're going to get your ass kicked. I mean, it's better than the alternative. Yeah, right? So just give it your best shot.

And you usually get respect. Right. And that happened, you know, a few times. I got my ass beat. But at least, like, I kept on getting up and going, you know, and they're like, okay. You know, they left me alone after that. It's fine.

Because you can't avoid it. You can't avoid a fight. It's part of life. It's part of life in there. It is. But, dude, it sucked. Having your molar knocked out fucking hurts. Oh, damn.

I mean, thank God it wasn't my front tooth. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, thanks for it not being my front tooth. But, um, you can hit horror from mold is coming out. Bro. Um, it was a big black dude. He stole my, uh, he stole my shower shoes. And I'm like, he stole your shower shoes.

He stole my shower shoes. Shows. And I was like, gonna go, fuck it. He can happen. I don't care. I'll deal with the athlete's foot or whatever. Right. And my, the bunkie's like, no, you got to go.

You got to go again. I'm like, really? And he's like, yep. Fuck. So I go up there. I don't even get my fucking sentence finished. I'm like, give me back my shower. Boom.

Glass is off. I'm on the ground. Seeing fucking stars. Yeah. Tooth swallowing floating around in my mouth. Yeah. And I lost my shower shoes anyway. But at least I tried to get them back.

Cops take me in. Yeah. So what happened? I'm like, I fell in the show. shower. Come on. I fell in the shower. Yeah, I really. You fell on your face. Yep, I fell on my face. Knocked out my tooth. It's exactly what happened. Just like that. So that's what no snitching culture came from. It's prison culture. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think it probably comes with, like,

if we want to go back into the history of time, I think it's very tribal and cultural, but, and especially from, you know, like, you know, the 20s and stuff. Even on the street, like nobody respects a snitch at all. But yeah, that's an easy way, two easy ways to die in prison, be a child molester or snitch. Yeah. And usually the trash will take itself out.

Right. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. And I saw some horrible shit. Yeah. Horrible fucking shit. So, man, actually do get raped in there and people's shanked. Yeah, I never witnessed that. I think there's a lot of voluntary shit. And there's a lot of fun. There's a lot of fucking gay people in prison, okay there's a lot of dudes it just comes out

you know right um but have you heard of the guy the booty warrior no oh the booty warrior the black guy he's a black guy of course he's a black guy of course if I won't

if I won't yes I've seen that video yeah I like the booty yeah but that's the cartoon versus this dude actually existed yeah it's based on the real life character you didn't know that yeah there's called the booty warrior it's like a black icon in the black community

Yeah, that's it. That's him. It was more booty having some booty than drinking water. Yeah, I mean. Johnson went on to tell our crew. It's not like it was happening. Sexual desires. He liked the booty.

That digger looks crazy. Yeah, he does. when I see one and he looks good to me when I go see him I say you come up I'll say I'm tell you what I like you

no I want you and we can do it the easy way out of the hallway so the choice is yours I didn't know that's a real dude that's a real dude that's a real dude That's a real dude.

That's why you don't go to the yard. Okay? So to get my stores, that's it. I never went to the fucking yard. That's when you had, outside time, you went to go play basketball. I just stayed in my fucking cell

and read books and listen to the music. You know, you got a little TV too. You can get a little black and white TV setting. You can just sit there all fucking day. And I can watch me some TV like anybody. Right. Especially there. Especially when you get fucked out there in the yard.

Yeah. You get in the yard. He'll get there screaming. Help, help. It's, yeah, it's pretty fucking bad in there. But I can't say I witnessed. The only thing, like, you're forced to see some shit because, like, there's communal showers. And that's behind the wall.

That's when, you're all, especially when you're locked down, you're rolled down to take a shower. It's mandatory. You get three fucking minutes. And every yard that I witnessed, even in minimum security, they put a trinity down there. So a dude with boobs. very popular very fucking popular yeah and uh that helps keep the the temper down the it keeps the temperature down that's what a fucking guard told me so it's like oh no this is they they know what they're doing wow so they got that transgender then a sucking in yeah they're

like yeah this will this will you know keep the rapes down and the violence down just throw a dude with tits wow works for me it is hell it is absolutely fucking hell and this was This was, again, you ever see a movie called American Me? Highly recommend it. Edward James Almost. It was filmed at Folsom Prison about... That's where you were at, huh? Yeah, like a few months before I got there.

Johnny Cash went there, too, and performed. He performed there. Some of my favorite songs, man. Yeah, the live version is on on Spotify. Folsom fucking sucks. It's terrible. And eventually, so the whole reason I was there was, I was a level two. So I was not really considered violent.

And at the time, old Folsom, because there was two, was level four, and they were moving them all out to Pelican Bay. And they weren't really supposed to mix the fours and the twos, but they were. Like, my celly was like brutally murdered two people over a fucking little baggie of fucking heroin, ate their fucking lunch while they're dead in the fucking car. Piece of shit. That was my, that was my fucking cellmate. Couldn't wait to get away from that psychopath. Oh dude he was bad. He was fucking bad.

Yeah. And, uh, well, it all worked out for you. It did. I got out, I got out like a year and went to minimum security after that,

but I had a year behind the wall. The other year was big. So good behavior you got out early. Yeah. Well, they put me in minimum security for the rest of my sentence. Oh, I was playing racquetball.

Like, it was great. Lifting weights. Yeah. Around people for chick bra and stuff like, it was around white people. Yeah. Well,

there's no guards. Like you can escape if you're dumb enough to do it. Because it means you have like a year under left in your sentence. But there's no like guards on the gate. And you can, there's no barbed wire on the fence. You can just fucking climb the fence. It's a neighborhood right there. Yeah, it's basically detention.

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