Hodgetwins Podcast - TWINS POD CLIP | He Spent 13 YEARS In Prison, And When He Got Out, The Whole World Was OBSESSED With RACE...

Episode Date: May 15, 2025

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Yeah Twinspot You learn how to read people Oh yeah definitely Yeah Yeah well I think into I'm a big believer in intuition You know and you guys I know you guys know this

Every time I've ever cheated on a chick She knew before there was ever any real sign She just knew And every time every chick's ever cheated on me I've felt it A week before I figured out Oh you're fucking your boss Yeah

But it was like something. She came home at the same time. She went exactly where she said she was going to go. If I called and checked, the person answered the phone, it was, you could feel it. It's the same thing with, like, the bank officials, and I say this, whenever I do, like, keynote speaking engagements,

they're always like, how do we fix this crime? It's like, listen, listen to your intuition. I can't tell you how many times loan officers have been like, yeah, I don't, you know, yeah, like they, but they look through the documents, they know something's wrong, They closed the loan anyway. They still closed the loan.

They cut me a check for $150,000. And the whole time, they're like, I knew something was wrong. Well, then why didn't you make a call? Right. You know? Yeah. Hey, do you think you would have got away with it as long as you did if you were, like, black? I was just going to come out, right?

I used, and it was so funny. Yeah. I used to say this before I got out of prison. Like, it's funny because when I went into prison, like, never really thought about like black and white you and i go for 12 years keep in mind i can't you know there's no internet right we can watch tv like whatever everybody agrees on you know right so you're getting very little media input and then or really any you don't really know what's happening and then i got out and i mean the the whole black and white thing is everywhere now like every it's so

So it went from me going into prison and it wasn't a big, like, wasn't a big deal. Never thought about it. I get out and everything's about black and white. Black and white is so polarized now. And they talk, people talk about it all the time. And it's funny because when I was in prison, I used to say that I had like the, I think I said I had the three Cs going for me. I was, I was clean cut, confident and Caucasian.

And I was just joking around, right? And now I get out, like, you can't say that. That's not, you say that. But when I, when I owned the mortgage company, when I own my mortgage company and somebody walked in, like, I want this person to qualify for the loan. I don't care if they're black or white. I don't get paid unless you get. So for you to sit here and say, somebody to say, you know, oh, you're discriminating.

I don't make money off of discriminating. I make money off of you closing. I don't care what. I had a chick come in. I remember her name to this day. Her name was Wifini Vines. She came in with a moo-moo on. She was a lunch lady, but they called her like a nutritionist specialist.

She came in with fuzzy slippers on. I mean, this lived in, lived in the project, in Section 8 housing. I mean, walked in, sat down. Like if you were going to, if anybody you were going to look at and say, she ain't paying shit. She's in Section 8. She's barely making enough money. She's got a. bunch of kids.

Yeah. And I got her alone. I don't want to discriminate against Wafini Vines. I want her to get that loan. Right. Right. So, yeah, she could, I could barely understand what she was saying. I'll tell you something funny.

When I went, at least you're not racist, right now. This is true. I'm not trying to be me. It's right in recognition. You're going to love this. Yeah. This is horrible.

So I go, I go to prison. I mean, I get locked out. The first day I'm locked out. up. I get locked up. I go to use the phone. I pick up the phone. I don't know how to use it. Right. Like I'm, it doesn't, there's no directions on how to use the phone in prison or in this, in this jail. And I'm like trying to punch in like hitting zero. And I'm, I know, I don't really know how it works and it's not going through. And black guy comes walking up to me. There's like 17,

18 guys in this cell. Comes walking up. He's like, chockai peeps. And I went, what? And he goes, John Collier Beeps. I went, I'm sorry? You beaves, man. Johnny Colleague, Beaves, man. And I went, I started looking around, and I'm thinking, he's speaking English. I know he's speaking English. Right, right.

But it's such slang, I've never heard it. It's so bad. And so this white guy comes up who's got horns tattooed on his head. Oh, wow. And he talks, tats everywhere. He walks up, he goes, your people, man. He's trying to ask if you're called your people. I don't know what people means.

Yeah. I've never heard the tournament in my life. You know, what your people? And I went, what? And he goes, your family. He's trying to ask, or you're trying to call your family. I said, yeah, I can't figure out the phone. He looks at the guy, he goes, looks at the guy's, I got it.

And he's, I, and walks away. And I'm thinking, like, you are, you are not prepared for this. You are not cut out for this. Right. Yeah. So he shows me how to use the phone. So here's fast forward. I get sentenced.

I go to prison. I've been around these guys for, let's say two, three years at this point. I'm in the medium security prison. I'm behind two black guys that are talking. And the one guy goes, man, how you fall? And the other guy goes, shit, niggins fucked up. He was over two stacks and a dove. You know what I'm saying? And I thought, I do know what he's saying? a guy snitched him out over a kilo and $2,000 and I thought

you gotta fucking get out of here bro you just like that is complete insanity that I now know I am fully immersed in the culture and I can have a conversation with these guys and I know exactly 100% slang and I know exactly what they're talking about I'm like this is horrible bro

it's a horrible situation yeah man I bet you see some crazy years. Yeah. 13. 13. Damn. I bet you see some crazy stuff in prison.

I don't have like the, you know, the guys, the, you know, I was in the yard with two shanks and blood on me. Come on, motherfucker. You know, I don't have those stories. Right. There were, like, I was there when guys are fighting, but I always say it's like, it was like I was a non-enemy combatant in a war zone. You guys are fighting and those guys are fighting and this car is fighting. And I'm going to teach my GED class. Can you guys get through here?

I'm just trying not to get it blood on me. You know, and I'm seeing fights like horribly vicious fights. Yeah. But there was never really a time. I mean, there was a, there were times when it was, things could have gone bad for me. But for example, the short version is, I got. Y'all liked our last ram we gave away. Yeah.

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