Hodgetwins Podcast - TWINS POD CLIP | If You Go To a Church With A WOMAN Priest... RUN!

Episode Date: May 28, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Time for Twins part. It's going to be a damn good show. Yeah. You think about the Vatican and the new pope? Yeah, I'm a huge critic of Roman Catholicism and the papacy. Orthodox Christianity believes that there should be bishops, not Bishop T.D. Jakes and not Bishop, not Bishop Tilda Swinton or whatever his name was.
Starting point is 00:00:22 By the way, I don't think he got the joke that I was calling him Tilda Swinton, just to be silly. And I kept calling him that. Uh-huh. And then I don't think he ever got the joke, but the producers got it. Women priests and preachers across the board throughout Christianity. I think even in my denomination where we do not ordain women, we are behind the times when it comes to recognizing the full humanity,
Starting point is 00:00:45 the talents and the gifts of women and what their contributions can be toward ministry. Jay, you don't look very convinced. No, I think Bishop Tilda Swinton is way off there because women were never ordained in the history. the church to the priest or to the bishopric. It's always been forbidden. And again, it's just liberation theology that he's pushing. And then he says he's not personally pushing liberation theology, but actually it is liberation theology.
Starting point is 00:01:12 He's already contradicted himself. That is what you said. Literally everything you laid out was liberation theology. What you described as liberation theology was not liberation theology. I said your definition, your opening statement. Your opening statement. He literally said he's a believer in liberation theology. Right.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Your opening statement and it's not historical Christianity. I didn't ascribe to liberation theology. I said your definition. You outlined inclusivity, inclusivity was not what liberation theology. Okay, but Jay, but Jay, time out, time out, Jay, out of interest, Jay, out of interest, why should there not be women priests? Well, it's not what Christ lay down. First Timothy 2 says women should not teach them. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:01:55 And to only have women being in a certain role. It's not that women can't be involved in the church. And you notice his fallacy there. He said that it means that when he said women are not fully human. And if you don't believe in them being in the priesthood, it has nothing to do with their humanity. It has to do with roles. And women are not made for every role. They're not made to be in men's sports, for example, right?
Starting point is 00:02:16 It's the same logic that this guy has in terms of his liberation theology. My name is not this guy. You've been dealing with me in a very disrespectful of men or not all. Still this one. If I go by going. Who's that guy shaking his head with the other guy to your, that gay Anglican dude? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Yeah, who is? He kept shaking his head whenever you talked. Just some gay Anglican. He wants, he wants women to be in his church to run and everything. Yeah. But it's, that's specifically said in the Bible. They don't.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Roads of women. They don't care. For them, I think, religion. is subservient to political agendas. You know what I mean? Like, it's just a tool of like... Right. That's what liberation theology, social gospel.
Starting point is 00:03:06 That just makes Christianity in the church, like, a version of soft power. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's relative to your situation. Just liberalism. And you can bid in for it however you want. Right. Doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Like most of the people that, the priesthood and people to follow the Lord, it's like most of the stuff they put out to everybody. It's just, it's not even. in the Bible. Look at the Secret Service. Trump had there was a woman leading Secret Service. Look at women secret service agents. Who wants that as a man? Well, the only reason they failed is because men
Starting point is 00:03:40 oppressed them, you see. They would have been successful had the men not been oppressing them the whole time. We're serving in church leadership. We're girls and we're priests. Of course we're going to talk about the deeply mystical yet profoundly human power of Christ coming into this world through the body of a consenting woman, our lady, Mother Mary. Of course we're going to keep doing our job, even though there are trolls in our comments.
Starting point is 00:04:05 We're girls and we're priests. Of course we're going to match our earrings and our sheets. It's like all about them. She looks like she's just sending for the pot look. Yeah. And I'm proud to be serving in an Episcopal parish. We're girls and we're priests. We're no stranger to holding a baby while preaching, celebrating the Eucharist.
Starting point is 00:04:24 It ain't her baby. Because we know they don't have babies. Yeah. Of course, we're going to remind you that there are women in scripture serving in church leadership. No, there's not. Narcissist. Yeah, exactly. LGBT.
Starting point is 00:04:39 From the book of Syrac, chapter 43. When it comes to marriage, I always thought that was between a man and woman. It was a religious sacrament. When the government passed that law when Obama was in office, I totally get why you say the government. She'd be able to do it, but why are they forcing churches to do it? Social engineering, social control. I mean, you mentioned the papacy earlier. One reason I'm not a huge fan of the Catholic churches in the 1960s and 70s
Starting point is 00:05:11 when they were really pushing during the time of the Cold War to make the Catholic Church a version of American soft power. What they did was they sent in certain CIA operatives, one of whom was named C.D. Jackson, and he created this idea of the doctrinal warfare program. This is a real thing. You can look at it. It was declassified in 2013. The idea was to make, just with Roman Catholic Church as examples,
Starting point is 00:05:35 make it into a form of American neoliberal soft power throughout the world. So they wanted to put politics first. And so in the documents of Vatican II, you'll find these statements like, oh, Muslims and Christians and Jews, we all worship the same God. And even Hindus worship this. Nostratate is the document.
Starting point is 00:05:53 That was pushed by the CIA, because the Rockefellers wanted eventually the Catholic Church to adopt birth control abortion, and they thought the best way to do that would be to push these kinds of agendas through operatives like CD Jackson, get them on board with fighting the Soviets, but now you're under the influence of the CIA during the Cold War. Am that crazy? So I think the papacy, even into Francis and with this new guy, it's still just a tool of the deep state. Yeah, well, like our founding fathers, like our voting rights, only men with property could vote. And I never, they, I don't think they ever foresaw women being in Congress.
Starting point is 00:06:36 It's probably rolling around in a grave. Yeah, because women and men, I mean, I'm not saying women aren't intelligent. It's just we think so different. And women are so emotional when it comes to things. It's like they're too empathetic. Yeah, the only reason why we have men and women sports. Now we have women pushing, like, unalabing their children up until birth. It's all because of women.
Starting point is 00:07:02 You can't have a society organized around feelings and equality. It's not possible because any organization, if it's going to run, has to have some kind of authority and hierarchy in it. You can have a tyranny, which is the excess of that, right? But in terms of, like, Aeros-Sah's philosophy, like, just the golden mean, you've got to have a balanced authority and leadership in place and some notion of boundaries and standards and virtue in place for anything to function, whether it's a family,
Starting point is 00:07:30 a business, a government, a school, a corporation. And I don't think that in terms of biology and nature, just go watch the debate that I did with a goofess girl for the last two days. And see if you think she's a rational person who could lead something and organize something and run a business.
Starting point is 00:07:49 It's not going to work. And that's who's pushing feminism. It's people like that who have no control of their emotions, no self-control. And then when you let those people in authority, comparing the nation state of Israel to the history of feminism to the false analogy. What was I comparing? You asked for a definition that was not connected to history. And then, by the way, you said that history is bound up with a definition. So I asked you to define Israel.
Starting point is 00:08:16 If you could define Israel without going through the centuries. And you said, yeah, I could. No, I didn't. Yes, you said that you could define Israel. No, I didn't. I said before you just stop giving me all of the history and just getting a definition. So we can move the fuck on. That there is a definition of divorce from history and you just admitted that you did.
Starting point is 00:08:31 So you don't have the brain capacity to define something without a five minute monologue about the history. You just admitted you said define Israel. Are you going to go back 3,000 years to define it? Yes, because it's an ancient historical nation. So you can't define Israel without giving me a 10 minute. I know what a false analogy is. So she's like defined something without the history. You're like, being of that.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Feminism is a historical movement. How am I going to do that? And then she goes, can you define Israel without history? And I'm like, no, it's a historical country. Like, what do you mean? Yeah. It's just crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:04 God, how do I get this win? I asked for you just, you're so desperate. She starts making like dong. You're so desperate. You're like, God. How do I get this win? What the hell is it? She's sucking somebody off.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Yeah. She's like, she's like, she's like, You don't have self-control. I'm like, you're making, like, don't control? What are you talking about? What's going on? So desperate. You're like, God, how do I get this win?
Starting point is 00:09:27 It would actually be pretty good at it, though. That's all the, that's like only person we could find that would defend feminism in a debate. So it was actually hard to find somebody. Right. Right. Yeah. So here's the pushers of feminism, right? I mean, but to your, to the main point, like with that, uh, Tilda Swinton, dude.
Starting point is 00:09:48 If, just because people have. different roles doesn't mean you're a lesser human. Right. That's something the left. That's the argument they try to make it. That's the left that's try to convince people that just because you have a different role, you're somehow, you know, dehumanized and degraded. But to have a child to be a mom, there's nothing degrading about that.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Right. It is human. It's not dehumanizing. It's crazy. Right. Yeah. They do a lot more dehumanizing of themselves. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:14 When it comes to the unborn child and the things they push. Yeah. Well, all the feminists. also want like total sexual freedom right which is degrading because they say it's liberating exactly yeah which is crazy being a whore is liberating if you want it to be that's what that's what they were saying so we we were on that for seven hours yesterday so right or two days ago well that's got to be exhausted oh it was hell dude it was torture right right right it was I felt like some kind of ritual hazing
Starting point is 00:10:46 like I was being inducted into some kind of like a secret society or like a frat or something. Right. Like the liberals, the left, they want, they want equality, but inequality is found naturally in everything. Yes. I mean, in the NBA, you got LeBron James, then you got the guy nobody's ever heard of. You find inequality everywhere, and they just want to have this utopia where everybody's equal, and that's not possible. Just like a Dr. Seuss book. Yeah. Imagine, we just got faux noodles. It's like a four-foot Vietnamese woman, right? Does she have a right to be in there with LeBron or with Kobe? You know what I mean? Right.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Imagine her trying to play like NBA, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's just, it's just insane. I think that what that evidence is is divorce, like being divorced from reality. You know what I mean? Like, and so it creates a double, like a dissociation.
Starting point is 00:11:37 They're like dissociated. Yeah. Cut off from reality. And that's why they start going crazy. Yeah. And they'll say, like, if you read Orwell in 1984, when he talked about double think, it was the ability to hold within like a few sentences, is a contradiction at the same time in your head.
Starting point is 00:11:53 So the last two debates I did with women, I did them on purpose just for fun. Both of them said, yeah, you can believe contradictory things at the same time. And I was like, the last one, I was like, did you read Orwell? Yes, of course I read it. And she actually thought it was a good thing. She thought that, like, being able to hold a contradiction in your head was like, Girl Power.
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