Hodgetwins Podcast - TWINS POD CLIP | Jordan Peterson Got EXPOSED & EMBARRASSED By Liberal Atheists in VIRAL Jubilee Video!

Episode Date: June 2, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Time for Twins part. It's gonna be a damn good show. Yeah. I heard Richard Peterson's making his rounds. Richard Peterson. Who the hell is that? What's his name? Jordan Peterson.
Starting point is 00:00:12 So I had a Biden moment. Jordan Peterson. What I said Richard Peterson? Where hell did I get Richard from? Hey, come on. Come on. I'm tired. A Negro is tired.
Starting point is 00:00:25 You know our sub-Saharan's man. We get tired quick. Well, I mean, it is funny. We- Jordan Peterson. It's funny, we do got Jordan Peterson again. And it's funny because it's like he's waiting for us to do a podcast together so that we can talk about him.
Starting point is 00:00:41 He has some really good timing of when he chooses to go viral. So, yeah, man, he did one of these Jubilee videos where it's like, you know, one gorilla versus 100 men or one conservative versus 100 liberals. Right, right, right. So he did one Christian versus 20. atheists and but it turns out that Jordan Peterson doesn't even know if he's Christian or not. That kind of defeats the purpose, right? I think so. Let's look at the clip. So he gets destroyed by this little liberal twink atheists kid.
Starting point is 00:01:16 And Jordan Peterson just keeps taking L's, man. Why is that relevant? Because you go to a Catholic church, don't you? You've attended recently. You're interested in Catholicism, aren't you? Sure. All right. Are you familiar with their doctrines? Somewhat? Okay. You're familiar. How do they regard? How do they regard? How do they regard Mary. Why are you asking me that? Because you're a Christian. You say that. I haven't claimed that. Oh, what is this? Is this Christians versus atheist? I don't know. You don't know where you are right now. Don't be a smart ass. Well, either you're a Christian or you're not. If you're a smart ass. Either you're a Christian or you're not. Which one is it? I could be either of them,
Starting point is 00:01:50 but I don't have to tell you. You don't have to tell me. I was under the impression. I was invited to talk to a Christian. Am I not talking to a Christian? No, you were invited I think everyone should look at the title of the YouTube channel. You're probably in the wrong YouTube video. You're really like something you are. Aren't I? But you're really quite nothing. Right?
Starting point is 00:02:08 You're not a Christian. I'm done with him. I mean, in one line, right? It seems almost like a throwaway line, but it's really not. He kind of just destroys him in his entire, like, persona in just one sentence. Well, he's Christian, right? I don't know. He's never claimed to be Christian.
Starting point is 00:02:27 He, uh, he, he, I mean, I'm, I'm thinking he's actually claiming or representing Christian. if you go into a debate one Christian versus 20 atheists. Well, maybe his real name is Jordan Rubinstein. He certainly acts like it. And remember last time we did a show together, we did an entire segment about him saying Christ Christ is anti-Semitic. Yeah, yeah. Now they flag him as like their Christian guy, but he's not even a Christian.
Starting point is 00:02:56 And when he's pressed on it, it's so easy, just a little bit of pressure, he can't even proclaim that he believes in Jesus Christ. Yeah. That's so unlike him because he's a very smart man For him, the little guy Yeah, very sharp, very intelligent I don't know what's going through his mind Hey, how old is, I don't, I hate to make this about his age
Starting point is 00:03:12 How old is he now? Let's see how old he is I don't think it has nothing to age He might be compromised No Kevin, he's a... He said, he's not a spring chicken He's 62 years old He's 62, he's a pretty old 62 though
Starting point is 00:03:27 He comes across like kind of weathered and weathered and weary You young whippersnapper, you can't talk to me like that. Yeah, but he's still smarter than most people at that age. You know what, he is, and I've always thought of him to be this, like, super smart, scholarly guy. Super smart. Ph.D., you know, fellow of colleges and all this stuff, and he always owns the liberals at their college campuses and all this stuff. But, man, this, what he just did with this kid, this is embarrassing. Let's just hear that line one more time.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Invited to. I think everyone should look at the title of the YouTube channel. you're probably in the wrong YouTube video. You're really quite something you are. Aren't I? But you're really quite nothing, right? You're not a Christian. Okay, I'm done with him.
Starting point is 00:04:09 See, that really pisses me off because I remember Ben Shapiro when he was doing this interview and he pretty much just shut it down. He walked off camera. I hate when people do that. I want to see where the conversation went. You just chickened out and you gave up. Yeah, but he didn't chicken out. He told him he was done with him, so he had to go.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. He's chicken out. I want to see where the conversation. one's going to go. Yeah. When tough, when things get tough, why you cower down like that and say, well, I'm done talking to you. That's not. Well, obviously, he didn't feel comfortable having that conversation. Why, though? Like, if you're the Christian. He said, Jesus, Christ's King is anti-Semitic. Now he's at a debate with 28th is claiming to be
Starting point is 00:04:50 Christian. Then he goes on the debate and says, I'm not Christian. I've never said that. What the hell's going through his mind? That's what I'm saying. Something's going on with him. He called everybody anti-Semitic for saying Christ's King. But you're not a Christian. So what gives you to throw it to talk down to us like that? Yeah. I agree with you. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:05:09 What that kid said, it might seem like silly. Well, you're quite nothing, aren't you? He is nothing. But he is nothing. What are you? You're not a Christian. You're not an atheist. You're just a general God believer?
Starting point is 00:05:21 Like, what even is that? Yeah, he put a Stephen A. Smith. He's a flip-flopper. Yeah. He's been flip-flopping a lot. And that wasn't the only kid that kind of put him. in the dirt during that debate. This kid also crushed them too, yeah. What do you mean by believe? Do you think it to be true? That's the circular definition. What do you
Starting point is 00:05:42 mean when you say you believe? How is that circular? Because you added no content to the answer by substituting the word true and believe. I said you think it to be true. All right. So if you believe something, you stake your life on it. What do you mean about that? You live for it and you die for it. That's what I mean by that. It isn't something that you say. It isn't something that's associated with logical consistency. It's not declarative.
Starting point is 00:06:13 It's not propositional. It's not a figment of your imagination. It's the presupposition of your attention and your action. And you're either fragmented, in which case you worship multiple gods, or there's some unity at the bottom of it that makes you an unstoppable force. See, this was just an answer to, hey, do you believe in God? Right. And then he just goes on this tangent, and he's saying a lot of nothing.
Starting point is 00:06:39 It just, you know. He's not being straightforward. It's just, exactly. It's very ambiguous. Ambiguous and using these words and getting people off track and, like, trying to play some games. He's playing mono semantics. In met. You don't believe something if you wouldn't die for it?
Starting point is 00:06:53 Not really, no. Okay. So, how would you define belief? Something you say? So I explain. I could believe it is the case. this pen exists, but if someone, like, threatened my life, right, I would lie in order to be able to save my life, right? Like, I think you would do that, too. You wouldn't lie to save your life?
Starting point is 00:07:08 Don't be so sure. You wouldn't lie to save your life? How much do you know about me? I didn't lie to save my career. I didn't lie to save my clinical practice. Would you lie to, like, save your children, your mom, your dad? I don't think lying would save them. Can there ever be a circumstance, logically, that lying could save someone. Yeah, and if you're steeped in sin, you're likely live in circumstances like that. I'll give you an example. If you're like in like Nazi Germany and it is the case that there's like Jewish people in your attic and you're trying to protect them, would you lie to like the Nazis? I would have done everything I bloody well could so I wouldn't be in that situation.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Would you lie? It's a hypothetical. What? That's not answer hypotheticals. That's nuts. No, I can't answer a hypothetical. I can't answer a hypothetical. He's just too deep for everybody there. He's too deep for me. That's what he's trying to. He asked you a very clear-cut question, and you spun it and deflected and creating something that's so ambiguous that nobody understands. What? Did you need to that? Look, don't play games.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Yes, you are. If you present me with an intractable moral choice that's stripped of context and you backed me into a corner, you're playing game. He gave you context. I would do everything that I could to make sure that I'm never in that. situation. How could you just not be in a situation where you live in Nazi Germany? Like, what are you even talking about? Yeah. I don't know. There's probably something going on with him that nobody's, nobody's aware of. Yeah, something's going through. Because I've watched him for years and I've always found him to be like a really sharp guy. Yeah. Click, straightforward too,
Starting point is 00:08:49 blunt. Now he's just very ambiguous. You've got there. You've made so many mistakes that there's nothing you can do that isn't a sin. Being born and... But what is... Again, like, sin, right? Where is sin come from? Who taught us about sin? Right. Jesus. And you can't even proclaim that he's your Lord and Savior. Yeah. Yeah. But now you're talking about sin and you're using all of his ideas and you're using them as your foundation for your psychology and your philosophy and all this
Starting point is 00:09:16 stuff, but you can't even proclaim him as your Messiah. So what are you? What even are you? Christ is king. That's... You're an anti-Semite. Nazi Germany in trying to protect people that you care about, like there could be a Jewish friend that you have, and you want to protect them. I think you should just give up on that line of questioning. Give up on just like trying to clarify your position. Because you don't like, are you like uncomfortable with me asking this question? It's just a basic hypothetical. Like I could ask you.
Starting point is 00:09:42 It's just a basic hypothetical where you're, like, you put Jews lives at stake in Nazi Germany. That's just a basic. That actually happened. But you're like not trying to answer this question for some reason. I just told you why. Are you anti-fascist? Why are you asking that? I was just asking, just clarifying.
Starting point is 00:10:00 But, like, again, you're not answering this hypothetical because you know it shows that you clearly would lie to save a system of life. Obviously, that's not what truth is. I don't find acceptable. Obviously, because I care about truth. I wouldn't be in that scenario. Obviously, right, logically, because that had already happened. Like, that's in the past.
Starting point is 00:10:15 You don't have a time to travel device. We're bringing this logical hypothetical up to show you that in some circumstances that do happen within the real world, you would lie to save people's lives. So your definition of truth isn't actually how we're typically using it. So what you're trying to do is you're trying to muddy the waters when I ask you like, do you believe this? Do you think this to be true? You don't actually have to answer the questions.
Starting point is 00:10:32 And plenty of Christians don't like that because they clearly see that you don't really like want to be associated with Christians. See that? This kid gets it. This kid called him out for exactly what we're saying. He doesn't like he can't profess it. He just muddies the waters. Right, right, right. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:10:46 You know what? The thing about Jordan Peterson, who do you think his biggest fan base is? Who do you think the biggest demographic of his fan base? Yeah. Rule Christos. Yeah. White Christian men. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:58 They seem as a father figure. Exactly. But his whole thing is, like, cosplaying as a Christian when he's really not an atheist, but I don't even know what he is. But he's just taking a lot of L's lately. He has the, he has the, he thinks he has the authority to say Christ is king is anti-Semitic, but he doesn't have the authority to,
Starting point is 00:11:22 he doesn't think he has the authority to address. Christianity? Yeah, and this is the clip. This is sort of the most famous clip of him. This is what made everybody think that he's a Christian. This is what he answers when he's just asked, hey, do you believe in Jesus? Sometimes the objective world and the narrative world touch. You know, that's alien synchronicity. And I've seen that many times in my own life. And so in some sense, I believe it's undeniable. You know, we have a narrative sense of the world. For me, that's been the world of morality. That's the world that tells us how to act. It's real. Like, we treat it like it's real. It's not the objective world. But the narrative and the objective world touch, and the ultimate
Starting point is 00:12:17 example of that in principle is supposed to be Christ. But I don't know what to, that seems to me oddly plausible. Yeah. Well, I still don't know what to make of it. It's too, at part because it's too terrifying a reality to fully believe. I don't even know what would happen to you if you fully believed it. If you believed in the story of Christ, or if you believe that history and, and let's say the narrative make meat, let's... Both, I think you, because when you believe that, you buy both those stories, you believe that the narrative and the objective can actually touch. I mean, like So it's like a novel idea to believe in Jesus?
Starting point is 00:13:03 Is that what he's trying to say? And it's like, oh, wow, like he might be a historically accurate person. And he represents all these things that we have in novels and narratives. Now, how old is that video? That video is from four years ago. But he never really addressed that he was or confirmed that he was Christian. No, he never did. He just led everybody to believe.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Yeah. People made the assumption that he was. Christian. And he said it's too scary to believe. Yeah, everybody assumed it is Christian because everybody's just fangirling. They're not really paying any attention to what he's saying. So, I guess we're the fools, really, because Jubilee, he's, I mean, he tricked and fooled everybody. I thought he was a Christian. Yeah. You know, I automatically assumed that, but he snitched on himself. Yeah, he did. He played on everybody's assumptions. That's what he did. And his book is called Those Who Ressle with God. That's his book.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And that's the biblical definition of Israel, too, which is kind of funny. Yeah. If you are Israel, that means you are one that wrestles with God or one that struggles with God, one that struggles to be in God's example, I guess. That's what the Israel means. And that's what he named his book. And, of course, we know that he's a very big Israel show. It's just like little weird word games, weird connections that kind of, you know, go with him.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Joe, you're a Christian, right? Yeah. Do you believe he's a Christian? I don't know if people, I pray for, I want him to be a Christian. I think he'd be a great voice for Christians if he actually came out and said, I believe in Jesus. But the thing about Jordan Peterson is, it's like, how can you be a Christian if you want everybody in Palestine to die, right? He sits there in tweets, kill them all, Netanyahu, let him up, light him up, scorched earth, you know? He tweeted that. He tweeted that. That's one of the, he was, on October
Starting point is 00:14:58 7th, he was one of the people that really tweeted like, hey, no mercy, kill them all, you know. That's crazy. And I don't know, that might be Judeo-Christian values that they try to say is a real thing, but it's not Christian values. I don't, I don't think that's a made-up word for Jews. Exactly, exactly. And you know what? I don't want to hate on Jordan Pearson. I really don't Because just like y'all, like he was a, I used to listen to his stuff and watch his red pill videos and him like taking down the liberals and all that stuff. But that just doesn't cut it anymore. Right. Those little videos of people saying, oh, men shouldn't use the women's restroom.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Men shouldn't use the women's locker room. We, you know, we shouldn't have to all get vaccinated. You know, right? That's, well, I think he was actually for the vaccine in the beginning. But, you know, he flipped on that. Looking back on it, look at all these damn red flags. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:53 So a lot of red flags with him, you know. It's unfortunate, but hopefully he can get a W soon. Hopefully he can change his ways, but his whole kind of facade seems to be crumbling around us. Well, anybody says kill them all and I lose all respect for you. I don't care. I don't tell it you than you are. You're a mass murder in my book. Y'all like that last ram we gave away?
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