Hodgetwins Podcast - TWINS POD CLIP | Matthew Cox Made MILLIONS of Dollars By Creating FAKE Identities...

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

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Time for Twinspot. It's going to be a damn good show. Yeah. So what I do is I figure out how to get Social Security to issue Social Security numbers to children that don't exist. It took a lot of phone calls. It's a much longer story than we probably want to get into. I want to hear it all. We're going to be over an hour.

So, you know, I basically called Social Security multiple times. First, I started off with, hey, I've never had a social security number. And they're like, how old are you? I was like, I'm 32. They're like, you've had a social security. Nobody's that. You know, like, fuck, hang up. Call back.

Hey, my son was born. Was he born in a hospital? Yes, he was born in a hospital. Well, then he has a social security number. You know, fuck, hang up. My son was born with a midwife. And they're like, oh, how old is he? Oh, he's five?

Great. Get your son. Come down here. We'll look it up. I don't have a five-year-old kid. I can drag down there. So I'm like, okay. And then I was like, I called back.

I'm, no, he's in South America with my ex-wife. You know, the whole thing, midwife, never had a social. And she goes, okay, how old is he? I go five. She goes, oh, okay, well, shoot. She goes, if he was under, if he was under one years old, she says, I could, we could, you could just come down with his shot record and his birth certificate. We could issue one.

I went, okay, click, hang right back. Hey, my son, midwife, born, blah, blah, blah, blah. He's 11, or is 10, or is 10, he. unsold. She's like, oh, so just come down with his birth certificate and his shot record. That's clever. So you call these people as a pretext trying to get information out of. Right. And you know, you can call the Social Security Administration a hundred times. You're never talking to the same person. Right, right. So I, I make a fake birth certificate, right? Like I get a seal. I get the paper, you know, the, like Obama did, huh? So I get all that stuff. I don't know, okay. You said, he said that. You're

get me banned, bro. Like, I just got my channel back on track. I think I just got the shadow banned off me. I used to have Trump paintings on the wall. Oh, yeah. That's a mistake, bro. I was a mistake from my point. I mean, if it's working for you guys. Right. I don't have no Trump paint, though. Well, it wasn't working for me. So, um, so what happens is I make a, I mean, make a fake birth certificate. I make a fake shot record. And it's funny, listen to this, like, who knows what a shot record looks like? Who knows what a shot record looks like? right right you know what if you go on the hillsborough county or any county website they have the form and then they actually have an example like in cursive like what it looks like filled out

i was like oh my god i would have never figured this out these you guys are great right filled the whole thing out i walk in there i go up i hand the you know hand it to the woman and she looks on the computer and she goes oh wow you're right he doesn't have a social security card huh hold on you'll have it in 10 days I'm like, thank you. That's crazy. And you can pick any name you want. Yeah. So anyway, I start getting these social security numbers issued to me.

How many different social security numbers you get? Like that? Mm-hmm. I don't want to get re-indicted. Let's say 20, 25, you know? So while I was in Florida, probably maybe 10 or 12. And then I'm, well, there was a couple of, maybe let's say under 15. So I get these social security numbers issued.

I then go online and I apply for credit cards. Of course, I don't say. it's a 10-month old child. I say it's a whatever, a 32-year-old man, a 30-year-old man. I apply for credit cards. Of course, there's no credit. You get denied. But what they do is they say, hey, you got denied, but we can give you a secure credit card. Can't get a regular one, but you get secured. I give them a 500 bucks or a thousand bucks. I make the payments, and in six months, I've got 700 credit scores. Right. So I've got 700 credit scores for a kid that doesn't exist. I've got a real birth certificate. I can go to, I manufactured several

driver's licenses myself. Okay. But eventually what ends up happening is I just figured out I could go into the DMV and they would issue me an ID in the name. If I should, I could make the, I can make the birth certificate of it. Here's a birth certificate. Here's the social security card. I can register to vote as this kid. They think he's 30. Here's your registration. Here's the lease. Here's this. Here's credit card bank statements. Oh, okay, stand over there. You get your ID. You could never get a driver's license as one of these. Synthetic identities. So I can go open bank accounts, do whatever I want. I can buy a house and that's what I do. I start manufacturing these synthetic identities. And then I start buying the houses for 50,000. I record the value at 200 to 250,000. Perfect credit. Keep in mind, I've also made, I've also got

several shell companies because in Florida you can actually buy companies that are old. So let's say your company goes inactive and after a few years, you can just pay the fees and now you've got a company that's five years old, you own it. Because the original owner abandoned it. Yeah, you can change the name and it looks like it's five years old. So I've got several companies, cell phones connected to them. And so I can say that this synthetic person has W-2s and pay stubs. You can call their employer.

They'll verify it. You can look at the credit. It's perfect. You can, I have, well, I did this multiple ways, but either way. I had canceled checks made up. So it looks like a canceled check. Nobody uses checks anymore, but that used to be a big deal. And so it looks like a real canceled check.

Let me ask you this question. So when the bank was calling to verify the person was the cue picking up the phone. Oh, yeah. It's me or my girlfriend or a broker or friend of mine, whatever, if they called it all, which was amazing how many times. Was it strippers? No, no, I was over the strippers by that point. I was married by that point.

Actually, going through a divorce at this point. So I... This is too funny, man. Oh, listen, this is nothing. Yeah. This is nothing. This is the tip of the iceberg. Like, listen, I started making fake bank accounts, fake banks.

Like I created Ebor City. No, it was bankofebor.com. I create Southern Exchange Bank.com. So you could go to the website, and it's a bank website. I had bank statements where you could, like real bank statements. So it looked like bank statements, color black, black. I mean, back and front bank statements. I've got envelopes.

You don't do this now. You get it online, right? But this is when you mailed it. Right, right, right. And I realized if you sent the real bank, the colored bank statements in, right? You know what I'm saying? So they look real authentic. They're not.

But I send them in. If the underwriter got it, they would call you and say, or call the broker and say, listen, you guys mailed in the originals. And they go, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. Mail those back to us. They go, okay, we'll make a copy. they'd make a copy and they'd stamp them original. They have some name for it.

It's like an original copy or something. So they don't even call. Why would I call? These are the originals. Obviously, they're true. Now, if they did call, it doesn't matter. Somebody's answering that phone. Hold on.

I'll look it up right now. Yes, I can verify the amount. What's how much is in the bank? Oh, 9,000. Yep, that's right. Yeah. Just like a regular bank. Yeah.

Anyway, so I do this whole thing. That's crazy. These guys start buying the houses. So they're buying the houses for 50, recording the sales at 200, then applying for a loan. The bank sends out like an appraiser. The appraiser says, yeah, it's worth $200,000. Why? Because there's a comparable sale over there.

There's a comparable sale right there, one across the street, one's half a mile away. They're everywhere. They're all me. They get an appraisal for $200, $250,000. They say, well, we'll lend you $190,000, $180,000, whatever it comes to. So each person bought Each one of these guys would buy Five or six houses

And borrow one mortgage And so roughly a million dollars And there was other things We take out personal loans, credit cards Because by this point these guys I can get a $30,000 credit card $20,000 credit card Right

So we pull out all the money And we make four or five payments And we stop paying So then the bank They start sending, you know, they send the collection letters, right? They just take the collection letters. After a month or two,

I would write a letter from my synthetic borrower's sister. And I would include an article about a 12-car pile-up on I-75 or I-4 where somebody was lifelighted and I would re-type the whole thing. Listen, you have no idea how hard this was because this is in the newspaper.

This isn't online. So I can't. highlight it. I had to type the whole thing in. And then I had to print it out on newsprint and then cut the newsprint up. So it looks like an article you cut it up and laid it on the copy machine. This is some shit. And but now I've got my guy James Red was in a 12 car pile up. He was life flighted to Tampa General Hospital. He's in critical condition. And the letter from the sister says he's currently in the coma. And the doctors say if he, even if he ever wakes up, He'll never work again.

That's why he hasn't paid. I understand if you have to foreclose. And then they foreclose it. They just want to, they want a reason. Yeah. They want a reason. You know, they'll keep coming until they get a reason. Once that goes in their file and they're like, oh, yeah, this guy's done.

Foreclose. He's not showing up. We're good. So they take the house. They put it back on the market. They start lowering the price, lowering the price, lower in the price, lower in the price, they end up reselling it again for $50,000. So they lose $100,000,000 and they have no idea they got scammed.

None. I do this to the tune of $11 and a half million. And I was had some bud a couple of and listen I got caught like all the, not all the time, but several times. Got, you know, in my mortgage company, I would get caught. I'd get caught by somebody and they'd say, look, your mortgage broker, or one of your mortgage brokers, we just caught a $2 million with a fraud. We already sold a million of it. We're still got a million on the books. And I'd say, listen, Gary, what you want me to tell you.

Like, I mean, I don't have a million dollars. I'm not cutting you a check for a million. what to do. No, no, no, no, no. We're going to sell the rest of it to household bank. But if this comes back on us, we're going to want you to help us sell that, get rid of these properties. I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, of course, of course. So think about what you're saying. You just caught my guy red-handed. And of course, I'm not admitting I knew anything about it. I'm like, oh, he's a rogue broker. He's fired. Yeah. I can't, what? La Fuente did, no, he's such a good guy. He looked me in the face. He looked me in the face. This guy went to my kid's, you know, birthday party.

I'm doing the whole thing. I'm offended. So they sell it. They would sell it. So this is a guy he knows. He just sold a million dollars in fraud to a household bank. He's got another million on the books. He's going to sell it.

And this is so, I mean, that was common. Yeah. So they're not. So the whole industry is just rifle. Oh, that's nothing.

Listen, that's, I've been caught red hand where they're basically talking to me on the phone. I had a company, South Star Bank out of Atlanta, of Georgia. They called me and I'm on the phone with, are they still around? I was going to say, most of these places have gone under. You made that up. No, South Star Bank. It's a real thing. They completely caught me red-handed. When I'm talking to them on the phone, they're like,

listen, you know, Mr. Green, you know, we don't even think you exist. Like I'm like, I get, I understand. There's some issues. You know, and I'm, I explain to them. They're like, oh, we're calling the FBI. I'm like, well, don't you want you? Well, let's talk about getting your money back. Oh, we'll get the money back when we foreclose on the property. Oh, I get it. Let me explain. Do you have the appraisal in front of you? And they're like, yeah, we do.

I go, open it up. Comparable sale number one is owned by a guy named Michael White. Comparable sale number two is a guy named James Red. Comparable sale number is Lee Black. Oh, I didn't tell you this. I was a huge Quentin Tarantino fan. So my guys are named like James Red, yeah, Brandon Green, Michael White, Lee Black, David Silver. Yeah.

So they would look at it. go and look it up and they're like, holy shit. I'm like, yeah, this is what I did. So if you foreclose, I mean, I'm sorry, so if you call the police, you just lost $150,000, or $100,000, whatever it was. Right. And they're like, do you have the money still? I was like, yeah, absolutely, I'll send you the money. We can't call the police though. Can't call the FBI. You don't want them going through my files. I don't want them going through your files. Right. And they would go, okay, just get us the money back. And they, listen, I always have people, well, what did they call anyway? But they didn't. Like, what choice do I have? Right. Right. I have to try.

Nobody ever called back. So that sounded horrible. I know that that fucking TikTok's going to make me look vicious. Right. So anyway, listen, I was telling a story the other day on a TikTok about a guy who, or I was telling a story in an interview. And I ended up saying talking about a guard who had told a gay guard who had told an inmate he was trying to pick up. You know, if you have sex with another man and you're in prison, it doesn't make you gay.

And I said that, right? So my Joe, which is named Colby, cuts that fucking thing up. And that's my clip if you, you know, if you, so all it makes it. And I'm thinking, I go, oh, that doesn't make me look good at all. They got me saying, you know, if you have sex with a man in prison, you're not gay. I mean, what are you doing? Yeah, what are you doing to me, bro? You're killing me here.

Yeah. Anyway. So what happens is. I'm not going to do that, too. Okay. So, yeah, I was going to say. So what happens is I end up buying a lot of these houses. And we do, you know, we get the appraisals.

We pull out 11.5 million. But I have a couple of people that are helping do stuff. One of my buddies gets arrested. I won't get into the intricacies of it. He gets arrested in a bank for doing something in the bank for something I told him not to do. I'm like, don't cash a check. Don't get the, he goes in. He does it anyway.

He gets caught. He immediately cooperates with the authorities. They put together a task force. And I kind of know something's going on because periodically I'm getting a phone call from, let's say, a title company saying, you know, the FBI just came and they subpoenaed your records or the whatever. It wasn't actually the FBI at that time. It was the FDLE, Florida Department of Law Enforcement. And I'm like, oh, okay. And I'm like, you know, like it wasn't mine, though.

they're like one of your borrowers or one of your investors. And I'm thinking, most of those don't go anywhere. And I'm thinking, okay, well, maybe I'm okay. You know, you're trying to convince myself to not completely panic. Yeah. Did that close it in? Like, I'm trying to tell myself that, but they are. And then one day, a sheriff's deputy that I had done about a million or two million

dollars with a loans between him and his wife, he comes to me one day and he says, Hey, Matt, listen, man. And I'm like, yeah, what's up? And he goes, he said, I used to date a woman on the Tampa Police Department. And I'm like, okay. She came to my house this morning. I'm like, all right. And he goes, she was recently on a task force that was handed over to the FBI.

And I'm like, okay. And he said, and she wanted, he was, my name came up in the investigation. And he said, I said, okay. He said, that task force is on you. The FBI is going to come arrest you in a couple days. and I was like, okay. And, you know, my first thought was, run!

Keep on, I'm currently on probation. Currently, I have three, and the judge made it very clear. Yeah. Don't, I don't, you don't want to see me again, Mr. Cox. So I'm thinking, oh, I'm going to jail. Like, I'm going to, you know, and I can't go to jail. I'm adorable, bro. This was 15 years ago.

I was a sexy motherfucker. And, you know, I know, you saw me. You saw me. You guys are like six foot something, you know. Yeah. I'm five foot. I'm five foot six. I'm the kind of guy that they make shave their heads

so the mop wig will fit right. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not going to be good. I saw Shawshank. Yeah. It ain't going to be good for me. Right. And, you know, I know you guys look at me and you think,

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Yeah. So, yeah. What happens is I, he's like, what are you going to do? I said, I'm leaving. Taking off. I'm going, you know? Yeah. So I pull out like 80 grand because believe it or not, even if you have a million dollars

in the bank, you can't get it out. Like that's the first time that was ever an issue for me. That money is not in there. No, no. You go in and you're like, they'll give you maybe five. If you ask for more than 10 or 15, they're like, oh, yeah, you got to request that. And so I have people cashing checks for the next day and a half.

I get $80,000 in cash. I run up all my credit cards. I get my car. I actually take this chick I was dating for a month. She'll tell you two months, but it was a month. And she comes with me. She begs to come with me. I don't want to get into that.

She's bipolar. She's a lunatic. Her name is Rebecca Halk. She's still around. Anyway, so she comes with me. What a mistake. Where did you go? We went immediately went to Atlanta.

So I go to Atlanta. I go to Alpharetta. So I go to Alpharetta. That's a nice area. It is. Alpharetta. It was back then, too. It was very new.

Everything's new. It was this cookie cutter house. We rent a house for $200,000 in the name of a guy named Michael Shanahan. Football coach, I think somebody else has said that. Yeah, Redskins. You said, coached for Redskins and Dippen. He won a cup of Super Bowl. This guy was an accountant.

So, anyway, we. Got some shit on your little. We rent, I rent the place. I make a fake idea as Michael Shanahan. And keep on, at this point, I'm putting ads in the newspaper. Good credit, bad credit, no problem. Free applications call now. So people call to apply for mortgages.

They give me all their information. Then I take that app and I give it to a real mortgage broker. Like I call somebody to say, hey, man, we take apps. We got too many. Do you want these six guys? I've already stolen their information. Right. I'm ordering their birth certificates, their shot records.

I'm registering to vote, getting their high school transcripts. You can get all kinds of shit. Yeah. And I need this to go get an ID or a driver's license in their name. So I'm opening up bank accounts. Well, one of the things I do is I go downtown.

I pull Michael Shanahan's, his title, and I see he's got, I only see he had two mortgages on his property. A Bank of America first and a second. So I create a satisfaction of mortgage completely. fabricated, right? Like, I mean, I order a notary stamp, the whole thing. I notarize it. I go downtown and I filed the

satisfaction of, so it satisfies those mortgage mortgages. It doesn't really satisfy them, but for the purposes of public records, they don't know whether, they don't know if that satisfaction came from the real Bank of America or me, because I showed up and I'm like, hey, listen, Bank of America mailed me these, but they said they were supposed to mail them to you and they're like, oh, yeah, that happens sometimes. Thank you. They scan them. and that those mortgages are gone. Now, Bank of America doesn't know anything about it, and this guy still make it as mortgage payment,

so it doesn't affect him. He doesn't know. But now I'm living in a $200,000 house that Michael Shanahan has owned for 10 years, and I'm living in it as Michael Shanahan. Now, I don't use it a social security number. I don't even know his date of birth. I just have an ID that says Michael Shanahan.

I don't need any of that because I call three hard money lenders. You know what a hard money lender is? So this is a guy like that, let's say he's got two or three million dollars, and what he does is he just lends that money out at 65% of the value of a home. So I go to these guys and they're like, yeah, I'll lend you 150,000 or 140,000, whatever, on this $200,000 home. And matter of fact, when American Greed interviewed these guys, they actually say, you know, it's a no-brainer. You know what I mean? Of course, they don't know that there's two mortgages that are just been satisfied. They think they're in first position.

And they also don't know that I called three of them. So one guy shows up at 10 in the morning. One guy shows up at like one. One guy shows up at three. They all say, yeah, it's worth 200,000. I'll lend you 150. I schedule three different closings, close all three of them at the same time. That's $450,000.

There's closing costs. So let's say 400. I take that money. I deposited into the bank accounts and I start pulling that money out of the bank. That works out pretty well. Actually, at one point, I went to cash a change. check for $29,000. And they give me a hard time, a little bit of a hard time about it.

And they end up saying, okay, well, we're going to, the short version is they decide to call to verify the check. I was actually a cashier's a little bit more complicated in this, but they, the girl at the bank calls Michael Shanahan. So I'm in there trying to cash it as, as, as, Scott Cugno. I'm trying to cash it as Scott Cugno. So I'm, and here's the worst thing is, listen. this is bad this is bad i feel bad about this god because we were friends so scott won't talk to me

he won't talk to me you won't talk to no i reached out to him i'm sorry what happened like i love to know i really only it's really my own entertainment i want to know what when he figured out what was happening because the secret service or the fbi whoever or the marshals they went to his house knocked on the door and they were like do you know this guy he's like yeah that's matt cox he's just cashed like 400 thousand dollars in your name check. So anyway, because I had done a loan for him. So when I left Florida, I had his information. So it's like, oh, let's take Scott's stuff. So I'm cashing the check, $29,000 check as Scott Cugnow. And they're verifying the check. So they call Michael Shanahan to verify the check. So my cell phone rings. So I'm sitting in the bank. My cell phone rings. And they're like, hey, this, you know, Mr. Hi, Mr. Shanahan. This is Kimberly from South Trust Bank,

just calling to verify that, you know, we have a check here. We want to verify that it's okay. I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's Scott Cugno. I think it's usually you verify the amount. I'm like, I think it's 29,000 roughly, about 20, she's like, that's it. Okay, just wanted to make sure, thank you.

Hang out the phone. Five minutes later, they come out, they count out the money. The bank manager, who knew something was wrong, counts out the money twice. Yeah. And then he gives me the money. and I'm shuffing in in my pocket

is like a savage and I'm so happy and I'm walking out of that bank it was one of the last checks I was doing we'd already gotten out 350, 400,000. So I'm walk as I get up to walk away he goes Mr. Cugnow? And I go yes sir? And he says I want to let you know I'm

I feel very apprehensive about this transaction. I go really? I go well what is it exactly? And he goes he goes I can't put my fingers on it and I go it'll come to you and I bolt right out I get in the car this is horrible too by the way you guys are making me feel that

I never feel bad about it you're laughing more than I do it's very interesting man it's like you've got balls of steel I remember getting into the car and the chick I was with Becky was in the car and I start well I'm like

oh my God you're not gonna fucking believe this and she's like what happened what happened I'm like listen and I tell her and she's like oh my God and there used to be a show called on called masterminds about criminals.

And I used to watch it. On the run, I'm watching it. And I was like, that's going to be on my masterminds episode. Oh my God, my judge is going to see this. He's going to be like, I should have given this fucker more time. But I'm off probation now. Like the gloves are off. Yeah.

So anyway, what happens is why we get the money. We take off three or four days later. Secret Service enters the picture. So I got the FBI chasing me now. I got the Secret Service chasing me. Wow. The U.S. Marshalls are chasing me too, obviously, because I was on federal probation.

And I took off. So they grab you or they look for you. And so I go from there to Charlotte, North Carolina. This is clearly not the 10-minute version, by the way. No, this is totally cool. Okay, sorry. I'll wrap it up. I'll give you a couple of good ones and then we can just shoot to shit

because then you'll be like, holy shit. And I've missed a bunch of stuff anyway. So I go to Charlotte. We set up camp there, right? We get a condo downtown, like, you know, we're big shots. Why didn't you have a fleet of country? I did. I've had 24 passports issued by the State Department.

Listen, I've had 27 driver's license issued from seven different states. So it's like, guys were like, weren't you worried to drive? Like, bro, I'm not a guy driving around in a stolen car with a broken tail light and a body in the trunk. I'm driving if I'm Walter Holcomb, I've got a driver's license to Walter Holcomb, driving Walter Holcomb's car with full coverage insurance. And I've gotten mint, listen, I got so many, as a guy named Michael Eckert, I got so many tickets in his name, I had to go to driving school. He was going to lose his license. I can't have this guy lose his fucking license. I got like two cars and a condo.

So, so anyway, I go to Charlotte. I drive to South Carolina to Columbia. Is it Columbia, South Carolina or Columbus? Anyway, Columbia. Columbus? Columbus, South Carolina. So I go to Columbus. I get a real estate agent.

Oh, so I go, okay, so at this point, I don't want to steal anybody's identity. I don't want to steal a regular person's identity because what if he gets in trouble? What if he gets a, I actually stole a guy's identity who had like a couple DUIs, and I thought, I don't want to be driving as this guy. I don't want to be.

Right, right, right, right. So I started thinking, who can I, whose identity, I need to get people that aren't using their identities. Right? And so, listen, don't judge me, bro. I can see you're much more judgmental than him. He's enjoying this. I can see it in your face. I thought twins, I thought, oh, they're the same, but you're not. You're not. You're like a little disgusted. So I'm loving this actually. So, um, entertaining. So what happens is I decide I need to use people's identities that aren't using them. Right. Right. Right. So I start surveying homeless people. I should have waited to say we're drinking water. So I make a statistical, your people are going to love me. So I make a statistical survey form.

I make a little badge. I actually use my wanted poster picture on the badge. And it's a statistical surveyor. And I walk around. That's right. You got a wanted poster at this time. Oh, yeah. And you put that on your bag.

Yeah. I put the little picture on it. Yeah. Oh, listen, by this point, there's, there's 10. 12 articles in the St. Pete Times. There's articles in the in the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Like they're they're starting to see some some attention at this point. I keep thinking, you know, I would love to see your, I'm sure they had to hagg your picture in there. Yeah. I would love to see those articles like now. Just you're on the picture like.

If you look it up too, you'll notice because keep in mind I've got I, while on the run, I get a nose job, two hair transplants. That's not my hair. I get, I get, I get liposuction. I get what's called a mini face look. get my teeth done, listen, I'm not fucking around. Like, like prison's not a part of my plan. But if you look, if you look, you can see that, look at the, look at the one in blue. Holy shit. Look at that, look at that forehead, bro. Wow. That was 20, that was a 20 years ago forehead. Yeah. Yeah. Don't even do like the same person. I. And my nose was like round. If you zoom in, you can see how round my nose is. Yeah. Mm-hmm. wanted for mortgage bro.

Yeah. It's kind of almost embarrassing, right? Like, it's not like bank robbery. Yeah. It's mortgage fraud. And your pictures look so different. Wow. You're like a psycho right there.

I know. That was my joker. I should always say that's my joker face. Wow. That's me. Wow. That looks like me. That's me now.

That's not too long ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's the orange ones and the one with the hair. The blue. The one in the white t-shirt. Yeah. The long hair, Joe.

No, no. Back out, go to your left. Yeah, that one. Not even that one. That's not the one. There's another one, too. Yeah, that's Becky. That's Becky.

That's Becky? Right there. There's Becky. Yes. Look at this one. Hey, have you ever gotten anybody from Hollywood to write your story? Yeah, I'm in the middle of that. Now, I've been in the middle of that for five years.

Because they don't allow you to make money from that, right? No, no. The son of Sam Law is. federal son of Sam law only applies in for crimes of violence and espionage. Oh, I see. So, but the problem is, is that, you know, I've had a few scripts written, multiple producers, you know, have optioned it, they look into it. They, it just, it spins and spins and you, you do the, you do the meetings and the this, and then it fades off and then it, the options expire.

And then another guy comes along and I'm telling you, this is, we're going to do this and you're like okay okay you know yeah great I'm excited but I mean at this point I'm just going through the motions right like I don't want to you know discount it completely because that'd be stupid like it doesn't cost me anything to have an hour meeting or 20 minute meeting right so why not do it and hey stranger things have happened so what happens is I go to I go to Vegas so I start surveying the homeless guys I give them 20 box a piece I get their information then I go get a driver's license in their name I get a passport in their name and then so I go at one point I go to, I'm going to tell you the whole story because this part. So I get, because it's

embarrassing. So I go to Vegas with, with Becky, and we, we give her family a bunch of money, and she gambles a little bit. We see a movie, whatever. We hang out there for a little bit. And what am I saying? We're in Vegas right now. I even realize that. We're in Vegas now. Right. So I go, so we go there and, or we go here, we come here, we hang out for a few days. And while we're we're here, might as well survey some guys, right? So I swing by to go to first place we went. No. Listen, the first place I went to, there were so many of them. I was like, I'm not getting out here. So she goes, oh, I know another spot because she was from Vegas. So she goes originally, I mean, I met her in Florida, but she had lived in Vegas. So we go to this one spot. And I get out and there's a couple guys on a bench, park bench. So I get out, I go, hey, you guys, taking surveys for the Salvation Army to determine where we place our next homeless facility.

that, nah, I'm not interested. Pays $20 cash right now. It's 17 questions. It'll take less than five minutes. They're like, yeah, right now, right now. 20 bucks cash. All right, yeah, man, what do you need? So I take the information.

I get a couple information. One of the guy's name is Gary Sullivan. So I get Gary Sullivan's information. While I'm taking it, I say, have you ever been arrested? And he's like, yeah, I've been arrested. He was, but they were just misdemeanors. And I said, oh, for what? And he goes, he was prostitution.

And I thought, that doesn't make sense because women are arrested for prostitution. men are arrested for solicitation. And he could see the confusion in my face. And I looked at him, he goes, and listen, it's this guy. He like, I had no click. He said, and I went, and I looked at him and he goes, he said, yeah, he said, I offered to blow, don't use this. He goes, I offered to blow a cop for 20 bucks.

And he said, I've been arrested. He goes, but it's only a misdemeanor. And I was like, oh, so you, I go, oh, you're a prostitute. And he goes, he said, yeah. He said, well, a girl's got to do it. girls got to do he like he wouldn't i'm not going to do the whole thing i could but i'm not going to i'm going to give you the pleasure of me doing the whole but he did a whole head thing and and i was like oh okay yeah that's okay so i take his information i go back to north no south carolina

i get an id in his name not a driver's like just an i i don't have a car i don't need to drive as him so i get the id i then get a real estate agent and we start buying or we We go around, we look for a bunch of houses, we put some contracts out. I get two houses under contract. I convince the owners to owner finance the houses to me. You know, I'll give you the $250,000 house. I'll give you $25,000 down. You owner finance it.

They say, oh, well, there's a first mortgage on it. I don't care. We'll do a wrap around mortgage, not a big deal. I'll pay you, you pay your bank. No problem. We close. Everything's great. I then go downtown immediately satisfy their loan and satisfy the loan that they

originally had on the house. So now I have a $250,000 house that's in the name Gary Sullivan. He's got no credit. It's just got nothing but bad credit, really. I actually paid off about $20,000 worth of medical bills. So I bought another house for around, I want to say $100,000, maybe $150,000, and I satisfy the loans on those houses. I then turn around, I go to six or seven different banks, and I borrow money against

those houses simultaneously, just like I did in Atlanta. So I borrow $1.3 million. I deposit those into multiple bank accounts, including corporate accounts, different guys' names, whatever. So I start pulling the cash out. I get about $600,000 or $700,000 in cash out. And one day, and I'm pulling it out $8,000, $3,000, $7,000. Like, there's no crypto, there's no, I don't know, you know, there's no way that there's no cash app.

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