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Yeah, Twins Pod.
So you were one of the first doctors to push it back against the dogma.
Everybody else was pushing about how to treat COVID.
What was that like?
That was a lot of fun.
Yeah.
Yeah, I never imagined that.
I have a solo practice, very quiet in Houston.
And I basically, I'm at your nose and throat.
And so I see a lot of respiratory tract infections.
And when people came to see me, I treated them.
I did what I thought I was supposed to do.
And at first I started with hydroxychloroquine, but then Trump said it was the best thing ever.
Well, that's a kiss of death right there.
Exactly.
A week later, I kid you not, Texas State Board of Pharmacy shut us down.
We were not allowed to prescribe hydroxychloroquine or azithromycin.
We couldn't even prescribe a Z-Pack for COVID.
Simply because Trump?
Because of, well, I mean, they didn't admit that, but the timing was pretty right.
So I kind of put that on the back burner and then I started using monoclonal antibodies.
And those worked wonderfully.
I could get as many doses as I wanted.
I would just contact the manufacturer and they showed up at my office the next day.
And things were really good.
And then the government took over distribution of monoclonal antibodies.
So they became harder and harder to get.
And then they just completely shut them down.
And this was all trying to get everybody to get the shot.
because you look at the timing of everything.
As soon as Biden mandated the shots, they shut down monocloma antibodies completely.
And then I started using ivermectin, and that's when things got difficult.
Why can't you take the antibodies and get the vaccine?
Why does it just got to be the vaccine?
Well, first, if you're going to do an emergency use authorization, you can't have something that works better.
Or competitor.
Right.
And then I just think it was strategic, right?
People were not getting the COVID shots because they had a treatment option, right?
If you can get treated.
And monoclonal antibodies were a little bit new, but they were safe.
I will say that.
Like, I didn't have any issues with them in terms of, like, the COVID shots.
So, and there was also a rule that if you got monoclonal antibodies, you had to wait three months to get the shot.
So that was people were using that as an excuse, like a stall tactic.
So, you know, they couldn't have that.
They were very upset that people weren't getting these shots.
And that's where they attacked ivermectin.
The FDA went after ivermectin.
So in March of 2021, they issued a statement on their website saying, you know, doctors,
you can't use ivermectin to treat COVID, and they told people not to do it.
And that wasn't working.
So then they put out that horse tweet.
Horstie worm
It's the same time they took Joe Rogan
And made him look like he was lime green
It was late August, early September
And the horse tweet went viral
And I mean it had dire consequences
It was all over late night talk shows
It was everywhere
People's making fun of Republicans
For taking horsey work
Exactly well and that's still going on
Literally last week
Vanity Fair ran an article on Maha
And Cali Meads
Right. Well, and they quoted me.
And in the quote, they added prescribed horse dewormer for, I mean, this is Friday.
I couldn't believe it.
I read some articles in Benaddy Fair.
Those people have absolutely no credibility.
No, well, I made the mistake of thinking I could trust him.
Right.
So, anyway, so we actually sued the FDA over that tweet and we won, which was nice, but.
Got paid, huh?
Well, no, we didn't get any money.
Oh, man.
Sorry.
Because you get your credibility back.
Yeah, yeah.
But I mean, it really, unfortunately really didn't do much, right?
I mean, we need the FDA to come out and make a statement saying, you know, this is actually safe for humans, right?
Because everybody still thinks of it as horse medicine.
Do you think they're ever going to do that?
Well, I'm going to keep pushing on it.
But I don't, yeah, it's not a hard thing for them to do.
And it's scientifically valid.
Let me ask this.
By them blocking all these other treatments.
Does it keep the rich people from getting rich from the vaccine?
Is that why it was money motivated?
Yeah, I mean, they were expecting everybody to rush out and get it.
And so in April of 2021, this is four months after the shots came out,
Houston Methodist Hospital became the first hospital in the country to mandate the shots.
And this was five months before Biden.
And that's how I kind of got tangled up in this mess because I had privileges there.
and I just started speaking out mostly about mandates.
I mean, that's what got me in trouble.
I thought that was a conservative red state.
Oh, yeah, no, I know.
So I think I have a theory that health care is turning Texas blue because of,
and I think mandates started in Texas quite purposefully.
I think it was very deliberate.
I feel like they knew that they could get away the mandates in Texas.
They could get away with them anywhere.
Looks like it's going to backfire on them.
I would think.
I don't know.
You know, there were a couple, there was a bill in Texas to ban MRNA.
There was a bill in Texas to make Ivermectin over the counter.
Neither one of them got near, you know, they didn't even get passed.
Democrats voted against him, right?
Well, yeah, but the Republicans, the Republicans in Texas.
They voted against it, too?
Yeah, they, well, they didn't even come up for a vote.
They didn't even get scheduled on the calendar for a hearing.
So it's frustrating.
And, you know, Texas, like, we're in Houston, where I am, we have the largest medical center in the world.
So it brings in people from all over and it dilutes our conservative values.
And I think it's an infiltration of our system and our economy in Texas is really dominated by health care.
People think oil and gas, but it's actually health care.
Oligarchs in health care.
Yeah.
I didn't realize like, I would think like the medical profession would be not as corrupt as it sounds it is.
Well, yeah, everybody, we are put on this higher pedestal, right?
Right, right.
But I think the pandemic exposed that, and I didn't realize it either.
I mean, I just assumed the FDA was ethical and the government was ethical.
And the pandemic really exposed all that.
You know, you mentioned earlier that you have your own practice.
You're independent.
What's the major differences between an independent office and someone who's like,
you have to answer to pharmaceutical companies or other doctors or?
Yeah, I mean, I call myself third party free, so I don't contract with hospitals,
the government or insurance companies.
And so the only people I work for are my patients, and that's an unusual way.
That's the way it should be, right?
Yeah, I mean, great, I don't take insurance, so that's the downside.
but everything, the prices are very transparent, and you can get reimbursed by your insurance company.
But there's a whole model out there called direct primary and direct specialty care medicine,
where it's just, you know, you just pay your doctor directly.
And for direct primary care, I'm a specialist, but primary care doctors,
it's comparable to joining a gym in terms of what you pay.
So you pay like a monthly fee.
And then you get much.
more time with your doctor and much more access. And the doctor limits how many patients they
take in. So they have more time. And there's less red tape that they have to deal with. So it's just
a more efficient way. And you don't have to deal with the bureaucracy. You can actually treat your
patients how you see fit these other places they can't. Right. And that served me well.
Yeah. So who came and said you can't use avarmectum hydrochloroquine and all these other drugs?
No one directly said that. But when I, you know,
started so basically you know I was seeing all these COVID patients I was seeing that these
shots weren't working at first I just saw break the breakthrough cases where you know that's like
yeah they call them breakthrough it was just as isolated yeah so and I started tracking them so
what I found was the vaccinated outnumbered the unvaccinated and that they were just as sick
if not sicker and so I actually I went to Methodist first so
didn't just go out and social media. I said, hey, are you seeing what I'm seeing? What's going on?
I thought they were going. Because they were saying if you take the shot, you won't get sick.
And if you do get sick, you won't get as sick as other people going to the hospital.
You will not. We were guaranteed. Right. And it won't spread. Right. Yeah. Right. And so I asked them what's
going on and they just gaslit me. They said, well, we think it lowers the severity. Right. You won't
die. Right. But, you know, that's never been shown. There's no studies showing that, actually.
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