Hodgetwins Podcast - Twins Pod - Episode 13 - Tim Kennedy: Navy Seals Vs Green Berets, Tigers Vs Bears, & Israel Vs Palestine

Episode Date: May 17, 2024

Episode 13 and we got UFC Badass and Green Beret Tim Kennedy! We have all kinds of wild convos, tiger vs gorilla, Seals vs Special Forces, and Israel vs Palestine! Tim is an awesome dude and cool patriot, doesn't mean some healthy debate can't go down! Get your Twins merch and have a chance to win a truck and a camper - https://officialhodgetwins.com/ Get Optimal Human, your all in one daily nutritional supplement - https://optimalhuman.com/ Want to be a guest on the Twins Pod? Contact us at [e-mail] Download Free Twins Pod Content - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_iNb2RYwHUisypEjkrbZ3nFoBK8k60CO Follow Twins Pod Everywhere - X - https://twitter.com/TheTwinsPod Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thetwinspod/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/twinspod TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@twinspod YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdg Rumble - https://rumble.com/c/TwinsPod Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/79BWPxHPWnijyl4lf8vWVu?si=03960b3a8b6b4f74 Apple -  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/twins-pod/id1731232810  02:18 - Seals Vs Green Berret 03:03 - Who Killed Osama? 04:05 - Marines Story 10:09 - America's Will To Win 11:49 - Why Some Men Join The Army 14:25- Thank God For White People 15:18 - Fire Fights 16:25 - The Smell Of War 18:36 - PTSD? 21:11 - Getting Fast Tracked 22:24 - Is Tim An Addrenilan Junky? 24:32 - Fight A Tiger Or A Bear? 26:18 - Save Our Allies 26:37 - Afghanistan Withdraw Failure 32:26 - Israel Situation 35:26 - Palestine Never Existed? 41:13 - Is It Ok To Kill Civilians In War?! 49:01 - Was Dropping Nukes On Japan A War Crime? 51:45 - Back To Israel... 1:03:07 - Second Amendment Rights/Lance Armstrong Podcast 1:11:45 - Tim's Schools 1:14:19 - The American School System Is Failed 1:18:14 - John D Rockerfeller And Public Schools 1:19:58 - Political Parties 1:20:36 - The Covid Shot 1:22:06 - RFK JR and Abortions 1:24:51 - We Need To Hear Everyone Out 1:25:39 - 2024 Election 1:28:55 - It's Like The Twilite Zone 1:30:51 - Thoughts On Vivek? 1:33:47 - Trump Is In Good Health 1:35:35 - Taxation Is Theft 1:41:26 - People Are Dumb

Yeah, welcome episode 13. We got a special guest for you today. Tim Kennedy, X-UFC, GreenBray. Are you still a GreenBarr? Still GreenBarr. That never got old for you. Fighting the shooting. Oh, no, I love it.

I texted you. I was like, can I be 30 minutes late? Because like, I'm gonna go to the UFC Performance Institute and like work out. Is that cool? Yeah, after the podcast, we're going to the range. I'm like, I'm moving my flight. Like, it's literally like, so yeah, I'm like, whatever that is, that's my thing. I want to fight.

I'm here for it. So you're the type of guy to go bungee jumping, just hang gliding, just rock climbing. Yeah, tomorrow, I'll be skydite. Friday, you're going to be on Mount Everest. No, Friday I'll be honey. Yeah, albeit. Tigers? I want to fight a tiger so bad.

Yeah, what do you think about that whole situation as well? I think the three of us, a couple black guys and a retarded white dude. I think we're going to be able to solve what's happening in the Middle East. That conflict's been going on there since 1940. I mean, that's what it started. No. You go back about 2,000 more years. They've been still killing each other.

Yeah. I think what happened in 1948 escalated. Episode 13, we got Tim Kenney, X-UFC fighter. Green Beret, he's still a Greenberry. He's an American patriot. Before we get to him, talk to you, pay the bills.

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I can't even count that high. Go to optimalhuman.com forward slash hard twins and you get 50% off. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to episode 13. We got a special guest for you today. Tim Kennedy. Yeah. XUFC.

Greenberry. Still a green beret? Still a green beret? Still a green beer? How does that work? Well, first of all, yeah. Before you even get to that. What's the difference between Navy's Seal or Green Beret?

Who's the baddest? Well, the earlier are really incapable of doing anything besides looking good and tanning lotions, writing books, and pretending that they killed people. And then the latter, the Green Berets, they are talented at violence. Oh, you're skilled. Oh, you're talking shit. No, fine. I'm just telling you the truth.

I'm just saying what it is. Oh, shit. On the spectrum of, like, mission capable and, like, completely useless, they got the seals over here on the left. Yeah. You got them green berets in the right. They're, like, they're born to win wars, and they're, like, shizzled out of granite.

And, like, there's nothing harder than, like, woodpecker lips. I mean, they're, like, diamonds. Okay. Green berets are the shit. Yeah, that's right. Who killed Osama bin Laden? I mean, there's a lot of argument about that. but yeah

technically who killed him Navy SEALs are a greenberry A bunch of different Navy SEALs are all of which claiming to kill him Yeah No that would definitely have been a mistake Made by the President About which special operations unit

To send in there Okay Any of them you send I mean you send the 80 second airborne in there Bin Laden's dead You send 100 first Ben Laden's dead Doesn't matter what American warfighter

You send How about the Marines Oh without a doubt Yeah Yeah. Yeah. You do a box crayons, you know, and just launch them towards something to kill and there's nothing that can stop them. Right.

Yeah. I mean, just think about the beaches of Normandy, you know, as those Marines. Oh, no, they weren't there. The biggest amphibious assault. Yeah. In history. Yeah. And they weren't present.

My brother, he's retired on it. We did Marine Corps. Yeah. Marines are awesome. Can I tell you a Marine story? Sure. Okay. This is going to be fucked up. I already know. No. No.

So I was a special forces baby, which means I came straight into the Army to go to special forces. Oh, wow. It was an 18 x-ray program. It was not a great idea, but they would take collegiate athletes. They'd send them to selection. If they got selected, they'd send them to training. If they made it through training, made it to a team. The team didn't kill them.

All right. The guy's going to hang. Is that typical for what you went through? No, it was not. And we died way more often than a regular green beret that came from conventional army because they were a little bit more senior, a little bit more experience. So I just gave you some context to understand that I didn't know a lot about the army or the military when my first combat deployment when I was in Iraq.

We were tasked with killing the number one bad guy in Iraq. His name was Zarqawi. Task Force bruiser like Jaka Wilink and Chris Kyle, all those guys are hunting Zarqawi. and the Joint Special Operations Task Force comprised of the most elite American Army Special Missions Units, they're trying to find this one dude. And it's amazing to see

the entire power of the American military directed in a single human. You know what, it's weird? I've never heard of that name before. I heard of Osama bin Laden. I heard of Saddam Hussein. I never heard of that name. No, you remember Zarq. The picture's this big dark black beard. He's a big guy he'd always pose with dead American soldiers. The black rock guys or the black,

black or guys that were, like, hanging from the bridge. Oh, it's been a while, but yeah. Yeah, this is 2006. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So we, we go out and we're hitting some of his safe houses and bomb maker houses. We get a bunch of gun fights. And 160th,

which is the special operations wing, the aviation group that would come and pick up the operators on the ground. They get a bunch of gun fights. They get all shut up. And ultimately, they're like, hey, man, we can't come pick you up. And, like,

Just like that. Hey man, I can't come pick you up. We got shut up. We have an entire troop of special forces dudes on the ground, and we're like, well, where do we go? Right. So like, old school pull out a map, and we're like, the closest base is this military fob run by the Marines. And I want to talk about one of the scariest moments in your life,

four o'clock in the morning, walking up to a bunch of Marines in the middle of Iraq that have been gunfighting. every day of their lives since they got on ground. They have nothing besides, like, hate, purpose, and, like, masturbation sheets. That's all that's there. Oh, man. And, you know, we're, like, doing every single far recognition signal that you can imagine, you know. And, like, please don't murder us. We're Americans.

We're doing, like, the loop-de-loops. How far of a hump was that? It was a hump. And we'd already had, like, five, six gunfights at night. Like, we were tuckered out. And, I hated humps when I was in boot camp. We did, like, a five-mile hump? Was it five-mile?

It was like, no, probably 12. Yeah, it was more like, yeah, damn, that died. Yeah, yeah, 12's the standard. Yeah. Yeah, 12. How many miles do you think you hump to that Marine Corps? I'm going to say it's like seven or eight.

Jeez. You know, but after. In the dark. In the dark, after gunfighting all night, you know, we got body bags. And we got like all of the sensitive site exploitation information that we had taken off target. And, you know, like post, post-fight, you got that adrenaline dump. So like we're not in great shape.

Honestly, I don't remember much because I was doing the worst thing that you could ever do. And this is a perfect example of why I was a bad and immature soldier. I was just following the dude in front of me. I didn't know where I was going. That's what I did. Yeah. But I'm a special. I'm a special force.

Yeah. I'm supposed to. I'm going to like, yeah. All right. All right. We're good. You know, that's not what I was doing because I was too dumb and too new to know anything. When they finally get permission to come on to this base and, you know,

We've been staying in a palace, and we have pallets of protein, and we have, like, a pool in the backyard. And we got, like, fresh food being brought to us from the town. You know, they're getting us kebabs every other day. You know, we've got, like, surf and turf on Friday nights. Maybe we'll go down and do Mexican Tuesdays. You know, like... Really? No MREs?

No. Yeah. Special forces, man. Special forces. Okay. Okay. Special. That's right.

That's right. And the first time I had tea rations, was in a marine base. Yeah. First time that I ever really, truly experienced what selflessness looks like was when I woke up sleeping on a treadmill, my head was laying on a dude's rucksack and his blanket was on top of me. His only blanket and his only rucksack.

That was a marine that literally guided me to a soft place to lay down where a snake or a scorpion wouldn't hit me and then covered me with his own blanket. And then they gave us their, they had no food. Like, they'd just been fighting. Like, this is peak war, 2005, 2006. Wow. And this is the first time that I was like, I am useless.

Like, there are so many people in this organization that is the United States military so better than me in every imaginable way that really matters. Grit, resilient, selflessness. Even though you went through all that stuff. It does matter. Yeah. Training aside, cool. I got, like, all these special skills. But, like, a thoroughbred horse, when you hook it up to a wagon, is just, you just.

going to blow its hamstring and pull its Achilles. It's literally useless to actually do work. That's what I learned I was, was like, I was useful in this, like, one very specific thing when I was like rested and I had my gear, you know, like somebody programmed my GPS and handed me a GRG and told me what target. And I had a picture of the dude that I'm a hunt, that is going to be hunting. I was really embarrassed. And, um, it was a humbling experience for you. Yeah, by a bunch of selfless Marines. Um, great. They're kids, too. I thought she was going shit on them. They're like crayon droke.

I've heard that a million times. No, I got plenty. Yeah. Right. So when you were doing that hump to that Marine base, could you see fear in everybody's eyes? We're switched on. This is, this was,

America doesn't have the will to fight or win wars anymore. I don't think we have the manpower. I hear some messed up. No, I'm talking about the will. And I'm not talking about the military men and women in uniform because they do. I promise. The men and women that have raised their hand to go and serve, like right now, if you walked into Fort Benning,

which is now called Moore, or you went into Bragg, which is now called Liberty, or you went to Hood, now called Cavahos, or you went to Pendleton, do those guys, you just open the door, you break glass in case of emergency and let them do violence, they will do violence. They're still totally, I promise you. Yeah. Like the military is capable of doing violence still.

I'm talking America doesn't have the will to win. We don't know what that looks like anymore. And on that night, like, had Ben Laden with 400,000 soldiers, and Zarqawi with, you know, 300,000 soldiers came over the ridgeline. Like, I would have looked to my left and to my right. And I would just watch dudes trying to hide directions

because they're so pumped to get in a fight. Damn. You know, like... You're just sitting out with a... They're like, let's go! Swole and got some pre-cumbus. That's wrong with you. But I mean, that was the, like, I'll fight a velociraptor.

Oh, you know, like, I don't, whatever that coked out animal is, I'm going to murder that thing, too. Like, they just didn't care. Yeah. And. Most men is not wired that way. Well, white men are. Like, when, like, let me say this. Like, white men, like, white men join the military is for our country.

They won't die for this country. Yeah. Like, other races, like, when I joined the military, you know, like, when I joined the military, I want benefits. Yeah. I want a job. That's not true. You're a liar.

You're a liar. There's no way that you join the Marines. Well, I don't want to be an MP. Well, but... So then stop right there because you know that's not true. Because if you just wanted the benefits, you would have gone to the Air Force because they got better and better, better fin. I tried to.

I didn't... My ass fat was too bad. No, I'm serious. It was too fucking low. Boy, you're going to the Marine Corps and all the rest of the dumb-ass jarheads. No, but still, I mean, if it put the game to show, I would fight. But when I went there, I was... I was like, it was for selfish reasons.

Yeah, it's a different bill. I wanted, oh, don't let me finish. I wanted to uniform so I could pick up bitches. It was just for selfish reasons. Like, white people, they joined for totally different reason. It's for this country. Patriotic. Like, our culture of black, being black,

from the moment I was born, you was taught to hate the country. Everybody's racist. I have countless stories my mama saying white people races. And it's just, it had a huge, it was a very detrimental. to a majority of my life because whenever I saw a white person look at me, I automatically assumed that he didn't like me. Yeah. So when, like, when you look at politics today, like Democrats, identity politics,

identity politics has ruined black culture, black community, black people just see our country in a totally different light. Yeah. Like white people love the flag, love the country. Now I feel the exact same way. Yeah. Everything my mom told me was, it was some truth to her, but, you know, she went through some. Yeah, I was in rough patches.

I was in a choice. She grew up through Jim Crow racism. She saw some crazy show. It had a detrimental impact. I mean, I just saw it's an opportunity to get out of her because all my friends were black. Yeah,

all them were going to show. Yeah, you put that green uniform on anybody give a flying fuck about what color your skin was. Right, right, right. Nobody cares. Yeah, nobody cares. And to this.

But I don't think, when you joined the military, it was for like just different reasons. Dude, I wanted to storm. Yeah. Beaches and climb cliffs. and stab whoever made a girl on a polka dot dress in New York look out a window and decide whether she was going to jump to her death or burn alive.

See, I just want a paycheck and some pussy. There's a bunch of black guys who was in there, so why didn't you join well? It was either this or jail. I'll take them. Those are the best soldiers. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I don't know, we just both have different life of the princess, and that's why I join the most.

I thank God every day for white people. There we go. Don't get me wrong. White people, without white people, I wouldn't be. be here. We wouldn't have this country. There's a lot of things that went wrong on the way, but man, white people are the best. When I, when I have the best, yeah, tough love. It's tough love, really. Like when I say, well, they're not perfect. I'm not saying they're perfect. Well, when you say the best,

no, no, I'm not saying they're perfect. I'm just saying black people have a different standard, high standard. So when you guys have these conversations and I'm on this side of the table, I'm just going to like hang out Yeah sure Okay so Because I have nothing to add into this You know Yeah yeah

White people are the way no Yeah I'm just I'm just painting a different perspective Let's get back to him Fuck I was booed No I like this I was enjoying every word All right so

Firefight Yeah I remember first time I was on the range And they were shooting Wills up underneath And it was just like plotting Where the bullets was hitting Uh huh

Yeah And the bullets were going by And that was it was giving me like anxiety. You hear the whiz or the snap? The whiz and the snap. Yeah, you're the best feeling ever. Yeah, so what is a firefight like?

Well, I'll tell you, when you hear the whiz and the snap, it's like, here we go. You know, it's on. It's the best gunfight is one where the bad guy is asleep in his bed. There's like 25 of my friends, and he didn't wake up. Like, that's mission accomplished. I think there's been Hollywood has really done us dirty where they're like, you know, you're supposed to

like throw ladders over the wall and like flash bangs are going in there like you messed up. Like if you have to do that, you've messed up. Yeah. It's kill capture. Right. So like kill is also the first portion of that, those two words.

So an air on the side of kill unless we need information then I guess we'll take capture. So I imagine like when you're in a firefight and what does that smell like? Do you smell death in air? Oh man, that's a, that's a, I actually don't get triggered. But like that would be a triggering question because smells is one of those things that really stays with you. Right.

Yeah, exactly. Like the smell of a bullet, you know, a 777 grain bullet traveling 2,900 feet per second. And like that burnt flesh and like when the body goes down and things come out of the body out of every hole. Smell it. Yeah. And, you know, especially overseas, we're throwing flash bangs into rooms and the overpressure, the dust and the asbestos if they painted it. Most usually not.

You know, just like the curry as they've been cooking in that kitchen for, no, I'm serious. Like all that just got shaken up by an explosion. And I walk in there and I smell everything that's been in that kitchen in 20 years. That goes in my nose. Oh, shit. You just smell dead bodies and curry, huh? It's an odd mixture.

It's a odd mixture. It's a long spectrum of gunfighting. There's like, Iraq. with a bunch of badasses. And then there's like Afghanistan where you got ambushed. Those are very different things. So like I can never paint the picture. Like some of them feels like

America. And then some of them's like, holy shit, I'm gonna die. So that stays with you to the day you die. Oh yeah. Yeah. It is finally here. Yep. Look at that beautiful package. Looks black man proof. Here it is right here.

It's a professional. We can show it on. Damn, but you know. You are. Oh, a fucking idiot! That's enough, Kevin. I said it's enough! Oh, man, that is tasty. Yeah?

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Optimalhuman. slash hogs when you got 50% off um when y'all came back was a majority because you seen okay it hasn't affect you yeah like you're still getting a hard on erection from it like do a lot of people come back like when i look at movies on tv a lot of people you know they don't tell you a lot of people come back their shelf shop they're not right in their head and they suffer for rest like majority of them commit suicide is any truth to that or i mean it's hard right now uh i know a lot of guys are hurting We fought 20 years in Afghanistan And then we betrayed that country and all of our allies

Yeah, it's like we were never there when we pulled out And like pulling out is not even fun But then pulling out like that It's like super not fun Right And why do you think they pulled out so fast like that It's like they almost tried to do it overnight Can we phrase this differently?

Pulled out Yeah You pulled out so fast What dude? You're supposed to pull out slow Early Yeah I mean, it just, it hurts so, you know, guys lost friends, lost their limbs, lost their lives

of some of the most important people in their lives. Right. And now it's for nothing. Right. All in vain. That's right. And then all the people that we're fighting with, we left them. And then the reasons that we're there were now kind of being told kind of a lie.

And it was because of weapons of mass destruction, right? Well, I mean, that was Iraq. That was right. Afghanistan was like the breeding ground for radical terrorism. But as we know, those are seeds that have, you know, it's in Palestine with the Hamas and it's the Hezbollah and it's with the Houthis and it's in Africa. And it's so like it's not as black and white. It's nothing ever is. Yeah.

One more question about the far fight. It's like one thing to shoot at a target. Did anybody you were with like lock up and couldn't shoot anybody? No. No. No. I was, when I said, I was the most useless, inexperienced person there. I was. Everybody in my left and my right were like better versions of what you're supposed to be. Because you're so new at the time? I mean, yeah, new, young.

Because you got fast track, right? Yeah. Egotistical. You know, like all the worst characteristics that you'd want. That, you know, that was me and my first few deployments. Yeah. Not that I got everything figured out now because I absolutely don't. but looking back now to then, it's almost embarrassing to think about.

Is that bad blood with you and other people who did it, the traditional route? Because I was in the Marine Corps. It was like it was a process. Nobody went over that process. You had to pay your dues to get where you's going. So I'm pretty sure there's a group of people in the military that do not like you. Yeah, that for sure. And even back then, we so desperately wanted to be value-added.

Right. All of us, like, 18 X-rays. Like, we just wanted to get in the fight. You know, guys were coming back from trips. The horsemen. Have you seen the horse soldiers, the 12 strong? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that. True story.

First, dudes on the ground, fifth special forces group guys, rode, you know, with the mood to fight on horseback. They look like the enemy. Freaking epic. Yeah. And those. I see that movie like five times. Those dudes came back from war, and those are instructors.

Do you think they liked us? You think they wanted to be training a bunch of, like, snot-nosed S-F babies when all they wanted to do was get back in the fight and be back with their brothers overseas? And there's this 23-year-old collegiate wrestler, UFC fighter, that's like, no, man, like, I'm the next wave. You know, like, I'm what you got to look forward to. Right.

So that never got old for you to fight and the shooting. Oh, no, I love it. Yeah. No. Well, he was a bullying high school. I texted you. I was like, can I be 30 minutes late? Because, like, I'm going to go to the UFC Performance Institute and, like, work out.

Is that cool? You know? Well, I either got accepted to get my ass kick. And then, like, right now, you're like, hey, after the podcast, we're going to the range. I'm like, I'm moving my flight. Like, it's literally like, so yeah. I'm like, whatever that is, that's my thing. I want to fight.

I'm here for it. You're still a beret. That's right. Yeah. It's crazy. You didn't want to do your 20. Get out, huh? Nah.

How long have you been in now? 19. 19. I'm about to reenlist this coming June. Actually, the first time I'm going to say it publicly. Yeah. I'm going to jump out of airplane on the 80th anniversary of Normandy. I'm going to land after.

Could you imagine? Jumping out of an airplane, like a C-47, using a parachute that's never been used before to drop into a drop zone that's never been dropped on before to fight an enemy that you've never seen before. that's putting people on trains in Poland and moving them to places that they just never come back from. They're smokestacks, but people are just disappearing, right? All of Europe has been run over by this blitz attack, and there's this master race, and we're about to storm beaches, climb cliffs,

and jump out of a fucking airplane for the first time. You hosted a show on Hillman. Did the devil find his body? Nah. How do we know that fucker's dead? We don't. I mean... He's got to be dead by him.

be like 140 years old right now. Yeah. Well, he's a master race. He might have discovered a way out to live longer. Yeah. So I'm going to reenlist on the beach in France in Normandy in three weeks. Awesome. Yeah.

That's crazy. And that will. So you're the type of guy that goes bungee jumping, just hang gliding. Yeah. Just rock climbing. Yeah. What day today? Today's Monday?

Yeah. Tomorrow I'll be skydiving. Friday you're going to be on Mount Everest. Friday. No, Friday I'll be honey. Yeah, yep. Yep, I'll be at... Tigers?

I want to fight a tiger so bad. You want to fight a tiger? Just think it... No, start off with gorilla first. No way. Would you rather fight a gorilla or a tiger? Tiger's going to break your neck and just like... I think you got a chance.

A gorilla has a big shit out of it. He hits you one time. Your face is gone. Yeah. A gorilla. I don't know. If you were going to be locked into a somatian... mint room and you

were gradually introduced to a larger or more dangerous animal where would you make it? Monkey? A gorilla? You think you could be a... There's zero chance. No, I'm gonna start eating hay. I'm gonna walk on my hands. Oh, you're gonna pretend like that. I'm gonna get real quick. With a lion or tiger? I'm fucked.

No, which one would you beat? I'm not fighting a lion or tiger or gorilla. I'm gonna play dead. Like a dog. Could you beat like a house dog? Yeah. Could you beat a mountain lion? No. No. Could you beat like a bobcat? Yeah. It's going to get really bloody now. It's going to be a fight to the strong. It's going to be a fight to the end.

I'm going to eat some toticants because I'm going to go slash the shit out of me. Could you beat a baboon? Probably not. Yeah, I don't think so. Baboon, you can make friends. Actually, we're the most intelligent species, but we're probably the weak. Like if you're trapped in a room with a deer, he'd probably fucking kill you. I think I could kill a deer. Yeah? Yeah.

Well, antlers? No. Yeah, the whole thing. I got it. Yeah, I got a deer. Got a deer? Yeah. I'm paid to see that shit.

Tim Kennedy versus a deer. In a cage, man. In a cage, bass. We could do this. It's so rogue and commentating and everything. Yeah. Hey, but you start an organization, Save Our Allies. Yeah.

Can you tell us a little bit more about that? Mm-hmm. Back to Afghanistan. August 2021, 20 years since 9-11 happened. And we are leaving Afghanistan. The American military is. President Biden says, hey, we're out. And he telegraphed or he announced that we're going to be leaving the military bases.

And as fast as the American forces could leave or give back land to the Taliban, the Taliban assumed it. Right. And what was happening is all of our allies, after 20 years of fighting there, the Special Forces Commandos, these are Afghan special operations guys. They have American T.S. clearances. They do combat tours with us. And if like this is my car, they're in front of us on every road. So if there's going to be a bomb on that road, they're the ones that are going to hit it first. And they volunteer to be here every single time. There are translators. Wow, they sacrifice themselves. 100%. So one of many reasons why, like, guys are hurting. It's, you know, survivor's guilt.

Right. Because like the thing that we fought for doesn't really mean as much. And the reasons questionable and the people that we fought with, we abandoned, we betrayed. So when we were evacuating Afghanistan, all of these translators and Special Forces Commandos and Afghan pilots and contractors. Like we had Americans that were effectively about to get trapped in Afghanistan. As we relinquished ground to the Taliban, surrendered ground to the Taliban, we ended up at HKIA Airport, Hamid Karzai Airport. And we had Fagram and Kandahar, which we had two of the largest AOBs, the two largest American bases, we gave over to the Taliban. And they got everything that's on them.

You know, the guns and the ammo. And Kabul, the capital city with the airport there was like the last strong. cold that we were going to be evacuating people out of. I'm sure you remember the airplane's taken off and people are like hanging onto the wheel wells and fall into their death. Yeah, I saw that. That's actually lucky because had they made it up, they would have froze to death or had their flesh ripped off their body at the speed and the atmosphere.

Way worse. Better just to fall to your death. Just goes to the desperation those people in. That's right. Yeah. And so with my phone melting down and my friend's phone's melting down. My friend Chad calls me and he says, hey,

my interpreter is in Afghanistan. Can you get into Afghanistan and can you help get him out? I'll be on a plane tomorrow. So the same time that I was on the phone, my friend Nick Palmichiano, who was sitting right next to me, he was talking to Sarah

Varardo. And Sarah was, she had ran a bunch of nonprofits in the veteran mental health and recovery space. And she was also kind of like a Washington, D.C. connector. So she was very good friends with a lot of congressmen and a lot of people in the White House. So the mechanism to get us from Texas to Kabul, Afghanistan was on the phone at the same time.

We had a good mission. We had a good reason to go there. And by the time I hung up the phone with Chad Robesho, I had 10 more calls of, hey, there's these 100. 150 orphans, Christians, little girls, that they're all going to get killed. Can you get them? Hey, we got, and like the list just kept on growing. So we very rapidly, with conjunction of a variety of other nonprofit organizations,

created like this task force. And I don't think anybody can... And this is from the private sector. It has nothing to do without government. It's just a private sector. That's right. Yep. Kind of...

And they're all veteran organizations. American veterans effectively just stepped up to fill the gap of what was about to be one of the worst massacres of American allies in our history. Why do you think we put us so fast and we treat these people like they're disposable? I mean, if they're real allies, why do we pull out, well, I should have phrased it. Why do we change course so quickly? And about preparing for these people to be in a safer environment, atmosphere. Yeah, I can't tell you the reason why.

Incompancy. Yes. Yep. Bidson administration is not competent at all. It hurt. Yeah. Yeah, that don't make any sense. I know we had plans to pull out, but when I, it should be done more systematically.

Oh, we had plans if we said we were leaving if these things were done. If the Taliban, which was going to be the assuming government and the current Afghan government were met these requirements, which we knew that they weren't. So there was no responsibility for us to ever leave. Right. I mean, that whole area was stabilized. I don't even understand why we decided to leave. Like it's enough time here.

Yeah. Like in Germany and Japan. Yeah. Left all the equipment there? Now we're still there. We still have the largest bases in Germany and Japan. Yeah. So why did we pull out of Afghanistan?

I think it was like a financial thing, right? It started the investment area. Yeah. And we've been at like, what, 20 years in Germany? Taliban still there. They're like, fuck it, let's just go.

Yeah. That's pretty much what it was. You went to some other areas like Ukraine, rescue people. Yeah, we were in the beginning of the invasion, both providing humanitarian aid to the front lines and... Like food, supplies and stuff like that.

Evacuation of... You forget how many Americans there are that can go and live everywhere. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, like, when... The attack happened in Israel on October 7th. We had almost 50,000 Americans in Israel, tourists that were there.

50,000. How do you move 50,000 people? You got no airplanes. Yeah. You can't move. But you got an 80-year-old pastor that's taking some heart medication. And, you know, United canceled, Delta canceled, American canceled. He's got no flights out anymore.

His heart medication is running out. It's like, what do you do? Yeah. Let him die there. Yeah. Some people have got to give them priority. Yeah, what do you think about that whole situation? I just see it as a big cluster fuck.

They cannot be fixed. I think the three of us. Uh-oh. A couple of black guys and a retarded white dude. I think we're going to be able to solve what's happening in the Middle East. Yeah. You're going to turn into a parking lot of stuff? I realized that since Moses parted the ocean and was able to move the people through some of that area.

that there's been a problem. But we'll today, maybe if we go down to the university here and like pop up a tent, we'll be able to solve it. You know? Stop protesting. I think we can do it.

You know, like we'll just... Just some heat abs on them? Yeah, we'll just, you know, like, wear a mask, have a flag. Yeah. And like shit on the street. Yeah. And we'll solve the problem.

Maybe we'll like tweet, like, thoughts and prayers or something. Yeah. Yeah. No, like, it doesn't matter what we think. Like, it's, that conflict's been going on there. Since 1948, I think. Well, I mean, that's when it started. Yeah.

No. No, you can go back about 2,000 more years. They've been still killing each other. Yeah. I think what happened in 1948 escalated. Yeah. We had a bunch of the people that didn't get gassed and burned in Europe. We're like, okay, you people are called Jews.

Here's a country for the few remaining of you that are, or left. Right. Yeah. And they killed a bunch of Jews, a bunch of disabled people, homosexuals. Yep, they kill them all. And the day that they became a country, the day partitioned passed, every single one of their nations, neighboring nations invaded them.

Every single one of them. They just survived the Holocaust. These are the survivors of the Holocaust. And then they're like, hey, this is our chance. Let's go finish them all. Then, yeah, here we are. Yeah. 80 years later, 70 years later.

I'm not, well, I think we all are pretty, well, I can only speak. I'm ignorant to what's going on there. So correct me if I'm wrong. Israel was established by what, Britain? No. How did that work out? So Britain was controlling the territory at the time. This is like the colonizers.

So you talk about, okay, at the time. it was called Palestine, right? At that time, before they established it? No. Palestine never existed. Really? Yeah, that word never existed. There was like a map of 1948. Was that like propaganda? Yeah.

I saw Palestine on this? I saw a woman on TikTok. There was an old Jewish one. Yeah. She said her passport used to say Palestine. And then all the people from that area, like, like everything that's going on in the campuses, and I keep seeing these people saying,

free Palestine. It's like, what the hell does that even mean? And I Google to start doing research. And there's maps, there's pictures of the globe, and it used to be called UK Palestine, east and west. So the

Britain used that name to assign it to an area because nobody wouldn't want it or name it or claim it. Okay. But the people there, they recognize that is north and South Palestine or something like that? So pre-Briton, go pre, I don't know, 1910.

Find me a Palestine. The Palestinian? The country Palestine? Yeah. Yeah. You had white people that named it out of a mechanism to try and control a population. Okay. So originally it was called Palestine.

Judea. Yeah. Judea. Judea. It was called Judea. Judea. Like, go back 3,000 years. Oldest maps that you can.

find in the region. Judea. Judea. And what does do Dea stand for? Jewish, right? Now, during that time, who lived there?

Was it Jewish? Was it Arabs? Was it? All the above. Everybody. Everybody. Yeah. And if Israel had their way,

that's what it would be now. Like, their one requirement is that you don't kill and rape the other group. That's it. Like, cool. We can have shared everything.

here's our ask you don't rape and murder us and if you're down with that then we can kind of I'm just trying to nail down how Israel was established I know I hear Britain so Britain decided this was we called

Israel is the UN in 1948 the United Nations so the United Nations came and said this area we're going to call this place Israel they're not going to ask the people to live there fuck them we're just going to call it Israel is that how it happened But the people that live there could all stay and live there. Right.

So nobody's getting expelled. Nobody's getting kicked out. Okay. Right. Why is Palestinians saying they're being kicked out of there? Like these families, original people, they used to live there. They call themselves Palestinians. Yep.

Why are they saying they're being displaced? You are stealing my house. And if I don't steal it, someone else is going to steal it. No, no one is allowed to steal it, you, ammy. Jacob, you know this is not your house. Yes, but if I go, you don't go back. So what's the problem? Why are you yelling at me?

I didn't do this. I didn't do this. It's easy to yell at me, but I didn't do this. You are stealing my house. Well, they are because there's a terrorist organization called Hamas that's operating and using the human population as shields. And if you take a terrorist organization and then you, let's say, there's a thousand of them. For every thousand war fighters, you kind of need like three to one for

support. So that now we have 3,000. Now, if you have 3,000 operator terrorists and then you have another two or three thousand support, how many enablers are there for every 4,000? Fuck, I suck it math. Yeah, it's like five. Like, so if you just think about your family, let's say you're like the gunfighter going to go out and do the thing. And then you have three or four people that are supporting you. How many people know you and the three or four people that are supporting you and support and hide you and hide what you're doing and give you like extra rations and tell you like here's a place to sleep? No, you can sleep on my place. Right.

So like that that footprint, that signature of a terrorist cell gets really weird when you start. looking at a dense population, that is Gaza. Yeah. So when you say human shields, what do you mean by that? So you have the bad guy, you have the bad guy support infrastructure, and then you have the bad guys support infrastructure

and they're enablers. Now, they don't want to die. They want, they get mission accomplished by two methods. One, raping or killing the opposing they call them occupiers.

Right. Which they just want to kill Jews. For them, they just want to rape and kill Jews. Now, why do they want to rape Jews? What? Because they're Jews. Because they want a response. They didn't do October 7th in the way that they did October 7th, just because they wanted to kill as many Jews as they could. That's not what they're doing. They wanted the response that they're getting right now, which was a broad, large military action. So they could then do what we're experiencing. experiencing right now. They can play the propaganda war. The two ways that they can win are they can kill and rape the Jew or they can elicit a response that is over what is perceived by the international community to be overreaching. Let me bring this up. Like since the... We've been fighting terrorists for a real long time. Yeah. You know, so like, unfortunately their playbook about how to do it, it's not new. Right, right. Whether it's Al-Qaeda, Mujahideen, ISIS, Taliban, Hamas. Hesbela. Let me say this. Like West Bank and Gaza, that's part of Israel, right? Yes, Israel. Israel. I've never, I don't know a nation or a group or a democracy or a nation or a country that bombs its own people.

Like we have gang members, we have thugs, we have a lot of bad in our country, but we don't bomb them. I'm just trying to justify. Let's just go to Texas. Yeah. Let's pretend population wise. Houston is about the same population as Gaza. Let's say Houston. They went to Waco to Texas A&M, and they killed 1,400 people raping everybody that they possibly could. And then they took a few hundred hostages back into Houston.

What the fuck do you think Texas is going to do to Houston? I'm Houston. We're going to fucking turn that place to glass. We're going to go get every one of our people back. Oh, just a few terrorists that live in that area? Absolutely. Won't we replenishing people? Of the three million people that live in Houston for that type of military incursion

that was orchestrated and enabled by, it wasn't just a thousand, people that did it. Hamas, which is the current government of Gaza. Like, you can't disconnect the two. You can't say, oh, that's just Hamas that was doing that. But then why are they bombing the Palestinians? That was the, like, imagine the Houston Police Department and the Houston military and the Houston population all supporting and celebrating the idea of going and raping and murdering neighboring cities. And then what are the neighboring cities supposed to do? Fight off the terrorists That's right

Fight off the terrorists How do you do that? Meat weapons, guns, and these supplies That's right They don't have it How do we Go and

So when I said Human Shields I think the wrong way Is to bomb them I don't think the U.S. would turn Because when I look at Gaza And West Bank

A lot of that place looks apocalyptic to me I don't see I like US government This looks like Oh I don't think Joe Biden or Trump Or whoever's in office

Would bomb It is really difficult to explain how difficult that place is until you go and see it. I'm sure it's difficult. But like, if I had a whiteboard here and I started like, all right, here's a cell, here's where they are in Rafa, this is the number of operators, this is the Hamas stronghold that were elected by the people of Gaza. They were elected. The terrorist organization not just voted them in, but then voted them in again. Well, if you don't vote for them, they're going to kill you. That's right.

So then where is the uprising of the innocent people of Gaza? So then why don't have, look, why are the people of... If we're funding Israel, if Israel can't get rid of Hamas, the Palestinians show is that they're going to get, because nobody's funding them. Yeah. Are we understanding how hard this is? Yeah, right.

Right. And we've just been talking like 30 minutes here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. So, I just feel for... I feel for him, too. Yeah, I just feel for them. Let me say this.

Like, you brought up a point earlier that, what happened on it was October 7th. Yeah. And they did that so they could get a reaction. From my standpoint, I think the reason why they did what they did,

I don't know how true this is, the information I came across. Since 1948, since Israel was established, close to 5 million Palestinians have been killed and since Israel has been established. In those 70 years,

that's why I think they did what they did on October 7th. I think they just retaliate. I'm sorry. Rape is the retaliation? No, I'm not saying. I'm just saying they retaliate because they've been being, Palestinians are being killed. Yeah, like five million Palestinians of that since this conflict started in 1948.

Never seen that on anything besides a Hamas propaganda page. I have seen that. The only place I've ever seen it is on Hamas. So that's all propaganda. The only place I've ever seen it is on a Hamas propaganda page. And I'm not sitting here subscribing to like Israeli Defense Forces news network, right? Like, we probably follow all the same things. Right.

I have spent time in Israel. I have worked next to Gaza. I have been, I tried to get to Rafa to do evacuations of the Gothers without borders. Like, Save Our Allies was there. Oh, y'all went to West Bank and Gaza too? Yeah. Oh, fun. Yeah.

That's, you're risking. I don't know. Easily call you a terrorist and bomb your ass while you're there. I don't know anything about anything. And I've spent a lot of time and effort trying to understand. And I'll just tell you, I don't know. Yeah. What did you see when you was in Gaza and West Bank?

Evil. I saw evil that is beyond description. The things that they did on October 7th, like, it's the stuff of nightmares. It's the things that happen in horror films. And there's no, there's no retaliation that would warrant. And if we're ever trying to find some moral justification for that behavior, you, Oh, no. I'm not just.

I'm just saying I'm looking at this from a holistic approach. So from a holistic... Millions of Palestinians have been killed. That's why they would do heinous actions against this rule. But I'm still not justified. I'm telling you right now, there's war crimes on both sides. I'm not picking aside. The moral equivalence of one group that specifically targets civilians,

that is their mission, is to target civilians. The more that they kill, the better they feel. The more that they rape, the better they feel. The more kids that they kidnap, the better they feel. That is their purpose and that is their mission. That is their objective. Hamas. Hamas.

Other side. Kill the terrorists. This group hides behind civilians. This group specifically targets military. How do you find a moral equivalency between those two things? There's not one moment where any military is like, do what, let's carpet bomb. this area that there's no bad guys and there's only civilians in.

Now, they will bomb a target that has bad guys in it. Right. Right. But of course, the terrorists are going to take civilians and hostages and hard behind them. You know, it's like against the Geneva Convention to put civilians or hostages next to military infrastructure.

Right. But they want to be recognized as a legitimate military, but these are the things that they're doing. They're targeting civilians. They're raping and murdering. And then they're using hostages and civilians to hide as human shields. That's what's causing all the Palestinian, the innocent Palestinian death is the human shields. That's right. But it's a mess, man.

Yeah, but then Israel, they know there are innocent people there. There are hostages there. There's civilians. They bomb them anyway. Aren't they just as guilty? Of bombing a military strategic target? No. No, bombing where there's innocent people just going to die.

So if there's innocent people. Is that a war crime? Is no. No. Like was Nakasaki and Hiroshima? Is that war crime? Fuck yeah. We bombed civilians.

Yeah, we bombed two civilian cities. We taught Israel. The, when I said that America doesn't have the will to win a war, because that's what winning a war looks like. Yeah. I look at it like this. When we bombed Pearl Harbor, the response to we did in Japan?

I think it's something American history we shouldn't celebrate. We shouldn't come in. We should never celebrate war. It's the worst thing ever. Right. It is horrible. I think 20 years of war. Like I hate being some war.

Yeah, I think, man, like war, too, that was a war we're fighting. You were fighting evil. It's like now we're fighting these wars that don't mean anything. Man. Like Ukraine. Is that war even taking place right now if we had a different president? The thing that's going on in Israel, I mean, shouldn't. If we had better leadership.

in this country. Do you think those wars will still be going on today? I really don't want to be in any wars. Yeah. And I really like America being in a position of strength. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And where deterrence is a powerful, compelling thing every time Putin looks over and it's like, man, I'm not going to mess with that guy. Yeah. I wouldn't mess with Trump evil. He goes after Rihanna, all the celebrities on Twitter. I guess it's a little spicy. You know?

Yeah, yeah. China's sitting there, like, Taiwan looks very nice today. And they look over and they're like, that guy looks kind of crazy. Right, right. You know? And his son, Jr., man.

You see the things he tweets? Yeah, I do. You don't want to fuck with the Trump family. Yeah, I'm not going to go into Taiwan just because of junior. Yeah. It's just, I'm very opposed to war. Brother, I'm just very opposed to it. I don't like it.

I don't like, like, you know, us conservatives, we're pro-life. it's never a child's fault when he when he aborted I take the same approach when it comes to these wars war violence life like the purpose the mission statement of my company is to preserve and protect human life

and expand freedom that's like I commend everything you've done everything that I touch does that right you know you know dude walks through that door right now and you're cute producer right there yeah he's pretty cute

he tries to attack him like I'm going to kill the dude. Yeah. Oh, I got you. I got my pistol right here. He's probably going to hit him about two times, but I got him. Yeah, I guess, I guess what's going on in Israel.

I think it all could be a leader. I mean, it's messy. Yeah. But I think I see that, I see that as ethnic cleansing. A textbook definition of ethnic cleansing. It's not. Like when I look at Ukraine. Like, let me finish this.

like if Israel was never established, this wouldn't be at the point it is now. Even though it's been going on. If the Holocaust didn't happen, we wouldn't have Israel either. Why didn't he put Jewish people like in a white area? Instead of surrounding by. Because they're not white. I mean, okay. Okay, first of all.

They put them back to where they came from. But they left. Why do you put them back? Why are you in Europe? If you want to be in Palestine, stay there. Why are you in Europe? They left when they were enslaved. enslaved?

Yeah. Okay, explain that whole situation because I'm ignorant to it. So they were enslaved and taken there as slaves? No, no, no, no, no, no. They were enslaved and taken from there. Oh, they were. Yeah. Europeans were slaves?

Jewish or Europeans? Jewish were, yeah, there was slaves? No, the Jewish people come from Judea, which is there. They were enslaved so they ran to Europe. No, they. No, no, no. There was no Europe. All right, start this shit on.

Because we're not familiar what's going on there. I have opinions. This isn't what's going on. This is like 3,000 years ago. Okay. I don't go there far back. Yeah. I just go back to 1948.

This shit gets deep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not from. New York, right? My people, as a Kennedy, would say that we're from Ireland. Me too, my family's from Ireland.

Clear. So I got my last name, Hodge. Marsh. You're so stupid. You look like you're closer to Hamasana, Ireland. Oh, man, I'm Irish. Marsh and America. You got the eyes for it.

Yeah. You got done for my great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great. No, that's great, great, great, great, great. That's it? Yeah. Do you see 23 and me just got sent to sold to China?

Oh, I'm screwed. Did you do it? Oh, it was through ancestry. No, not 20. But I don't know if they're all the same company. I think BlackRock bought um, ancestry.

Really? Yeah. I hope they don't play no evidence on us because they got my DNA. Yeah, 23 and me went to China yesterday. Why? A bunch of reasons. Knowing who and who is who in the zoo is like a pretty powerful

amount of meta information. Yeah. They know everybody. buddy. Right. They buy a farm, they've been buying a lot of farm land here too, right? How is that legal? I don't fucking know. Like, our enemy wants to buy American land and we're like, yeah, that's cool. Yeah. How is that? Like, I'm not here for that. God bless America. I don't know. I would really like him to. Yeah. What were you saying about the enslavement? Yeah. Yeah. They were enslaved and they were dragged to Egypt. But they're like the most enslaved people.

You just go down a fun rabbit hole of the history of the Jewish people. Okay. Oh, okay. It is a sad, it's a sad book to read. You say they're the most enslaved people. Conquered, enslaved. Wow. It is wild.

I'm glad you shared that because, you know, black people, they're always talking about slavery and they want reparations. I'm like, everybody was a slave. Yeah. But only black people's complaining about it. Not all of them. Just big to differ. Well, a majority of the people that vote left

is always begging about reparations and things like that. You know, every demographic people has been enslaved in this country, but it seems like black people, you know, celebrate that and doesn't want to get paid. Yeah. Yeah. Do you believe in that reparations?

No, I do not. I don't either. I believe that an extremely, for a position in life is a really dangerous and weak idea. And then entitlement really feeds into that. So as a veteran, a lot of us are struggling post-war. And I believe it is America's responsibility to make sure that these guys that went and fought for their country are taken care of. Right. Yeah. But I will be the first to lose my mind if I ever see a veteran with his handout saying, I deserve this. I'm entitled to this.

Right. Like, because of this thing that happened to me, I'm not going to work hard or I'm not going to put my best effort moving forward. Right. Because I deserve this. It's, it's a disgusting disease that has spread throughout the American culture. And it's anti-American. Yeah. I want, I want badass. people and families to stand up and be like, I believe this, and I'm going to fight for this, and I'm going to feed my family, I'm going to provide for my family, I'm going to be a protector of my family. And every single one of these bill of rights in that preamble says that we are all created equal from that point forward.

Here's all the bill of rights that are God given to me, not from the government. I need you to go donate some time and go talk to some black churches. Send me. I'm about to open a church. They want to listen to my black ass. Yes. Well, they're not going to listen to mine, then. I don't have a black ass

I agree with that they need to like get over what happened Yeah it happened like a couple hundred years ago But if you're telling them to get over that The Jews need to get over what happened 3,000 people. They got a country now Yeah Yeah yeah yeah yeah

Not the Jews The Jews No I said I'm talking about everyone that lives here Yeah I know Yeah yeah yeah yeah If you're going to tell black people you need to get over it And just work for what they want to work for Even though it's happened two 300 years ago

I'm just saying the Jews need to get over what happened to them 3,000 years ago. Yeah, they're trying. They'd really like to not get raped and murderers. Right, I know. I get that. Yeah. Yeah, I totally get that.

I'm not trying to justify what Hamas did or... Of course not. I just think that... This is what I want to say. There is nothing that led to more death in this world than religion. That's true. And what's going on in Israel, that's... I'm afraid one day it's going to fucking kill everybody.

Yeah. Nothing else has killed more people than religion. And that's why I look at it, they're removing from Israel. They're taking one ethnic group and making it more homogenous Jews. That's why I call it ethnic cleansing. This is apocalyptic what's going on there. That's how I see it. And I understand the history of Judea.

And like you said, I did not know Jews was probably the most enslaved people. I did not know that. Thank you for sharing. But it's like, that place is so. It's so volatile, and you can't fix that. You're never going to fix it. Yeah. We're definitely not going to.

The UN's not going to. Yeah. And Hamas, they are pure evil, and they need to be wiped off the face of the planet. Yeah. Yeah. Because, yeah, I just hope when you wipe them off, we don't go with them. They want you to, though. Yeah, yeah.

They don't want you to exist. Right. They hate everything about both of you. Yeah. And they would, like, you are an infidel. And if you've ever lived or been to a place under Sharia law, you would not bode well there. Yeah. If we grow up be a beard, you got to get on the neck a little bit.

Yeah, let me grow up my bird, give me a couple of them turbans. You got to get a neck beard. Give me some blankets so I'd fit right in. Turbin. Turbin. What you call them? I don't know. He jabs?

He knows a lot. Ask him. It's a he jab. That's right. He jabs? Don't just the women wear that? No. Oh, me and it?

Okay. Oh, the women have to cover up everything. That's right. I thought the men wear turbans. That's hijal. That's a hijab? That's a hijab. But women, when they wear it, they got to cover everything.

You can't see the eyes cold. Why, I've been calling that thing a turban for like years? It's also a turban, but that's a different religion. Oh, just Sikh religion. Yep. Seek. Oh, okay. So Sikhs call it turban, and most of them call it a hijab.

I'll tell you who else you don't want to piss off as it's Sikh. Yeah. You got one of them knives? Yes. The Poliala, it has to be bloody when they put it back. And do you know the Sikh really don't like? What? Muslims.

Really? Really? Everybody over there hates everybody. But we're all the way over here and we think that we know and we're going to figure it out. You say, we're going to fix this shit. We're just exacerbating everything. Yeah. Hey, what's your, oh, you want to say something?

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Yeah. I don't get it. Yeah. Well, I didn't know this. I didn't know this. Some conservatives, when they say Second Amendment, that means to them, everybody should have a gun. George Floyd, convicted felons. They should have a weapon.

And the government should not be able to allow to regulate it. I'm totally against that. If you're a convicted felon, you don't need to have a gun. If you're 85 years old, you got dementia, you don't need a gun. I think there should be. Yeah, there should be some parameters. should be regulated. Yeah.

Should be police. Everybody really likes the very last shall not be infringed, but they ignore the well-regulated portion of this. Right. And this is not fair. We've got to take the whole entire thing. A lot of people's conflicted on that way of regulated. Some people say, is the government regulated?

And some people think it's the people regulate it. Well, I don't want the government to regulate anything. I think I should be able to own a tank. I think I should be able to own a rad flamethrower. and a minigun. That sounds a little radical to me. I think you should too. And I think all of them do as well.

A flamethrower? Yes, a flame thrower. I would never protect you from a tyrannical government. I would never burn somebody alive to a flame thrower? I would do something more humane, like stab them or something. But why don't they're like hiding in a German pillbox

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I'm like five playing with my dad's gun. Oh, shit. Oh, 11. Hammer pulled back. You know, thank God there's a grip safety and a thumb safety. Oh, grip safety. Yeah. My gun has grip safety.

My little hand. weren't like big enough because had I been able to figure out how to get this thing going, I surely would have used it. I think all guns have that grip safety. I don't. No? No. Man, I shoot my dick off if I didn't have that thing.

No, I actually, I use like a crush grip. It's like the way that I hold a gun, this portion of my hand isn't pressed too much against the back tang of a pistol. Most of the friction and control the gun is coming from my support hand. Yeah. So like I actually don't have a difficult time shooting like a 2011-19-11. I had to, like, change up my grip. I got big ass.

You got big fucking heads. Yeah, that's the problem. No, we're the same. Dude, I'm six fucking two. I was not, I'm like the little, I'm the runt. Well, you're not a runt. You're what, 511? Yeah.

That's not a runt. You're a big ass monkey hands, you guys. Yeah. You slapped shit out of somebody. Those heads are freaking huge. Now I'm self-conscious. I'm going to hide my hands down. Hey, how big is your cock?

Because they say it goes by your. Your head and your foot size. He's such a homo. I'm just being. What size you were? 12 and a half. That's what I were. Yeah, we're good.

Yeah. So. So his cock is big as I. I go on the Lance Armstrong podcast. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. There's like 25 seconds that is like reposted endlessly.

Yeah. I had explained. Yes, to 25 seconds. Yeah, I'm sure that Yeah, people's doing a bunch of videos Where gun control could be a great solution I think that was like the last five seconds of it Yeah, right.

In all shape and form, I am against gun control. I don't want the government involved in anything, anywhere, any time, especially when it comes to anything in the Bill of Rights, which is afforded to us by God, not the government. So like when I say Second Amendments and I love the Second Amendments, I want no form or fashion of anybody from the government being able to tell me or mine what I'm allowed to own, have to fight a tyrannical government

or to protect my family or to recreate if I want, but that's not the point of the second amendment. Is there any but? Is there any buts? Any butts to that? There are no buts to that. Good. Do you think felons? Do you think George Floyd should have a gun?

That's an extreme. No, I don't. I don't think. No, I don't. I don't think every I mean. So who regulates that then? What I don't want is the government. So I own a gun. store. I own a weapons training company called SheepDard Response. I own a tactical training company. I own a government contracting company. And like all I do is teach people how to use a gun,

whether it's the military, law enforcement, civilians, I give them, I sell them guns or I try to develop better guns. Like that is what I do. And I help and work for the firearms industry trying to like build better guns within there. Like I love everything about them. The, in that specific conversation with Lance, Lance is very anti-gun, as is his whole entire audience. Right. And I, man, I messed up. My whole goal was to try to convince his audience that, so like, is gun control, or any gun laws, a form of gun control? Yes.

Are there good gun laws? Well, if felons shouldn't have guns, or if you're a, if you are a rapist? Yeah, a drug addict that is raping. Pedophile? Yeah. They should not exist. Any of those things, those are existing laws that are supposed to prevent somebody. So in that conversation, talking to him and his audience, using the language that they're comfortable with, I was like, yeah, there are good gun laws, which is good gun control.

And, ah, man, if I could go back in time and take those words back, I would. But I still get what I was trying to do at that time, which is convinced a dude that is anti-gun, that, no, man, it's okay to want and be comfortable around firearms. and it's rational to find a compromise in between us. We're not going to maybe agree. And definitely a lot of his audience would never agree with us in any way. But, man, I was going to try. Yeah, it was worth a shot. And a very positive impact on his audience and him.

Yeah, but you had a lot of conservatives turn on your ass. Yeah, but then what I had was a bunch of people that were like, oh, Tim's anti-2A. I was like, man, can you look at what I was trying to do? Man, I messed it up. I get that. Yeah. But what I was trying to do was encourage other people that are, anti-gun to come a little bit closer to the conversation of freedom.

Right. But that's why I look at it, freedom. I should have a right to defend myself. Sovereignty. Unless I'm a rapist, I have dementia, or I'm a convicted felon of burglaries and stuff like that. I'm just a dangerous person in society. I don't think I should have a right to have that gun. And as far as the government regulating people like that, I don't know how you go about doing it.

Yeah. Well, so that's, that's a, and I love this conversation. Right. It doesn't have to be the government. Right. If you go back to the colonies, you go back to when that was written. Those were groups and societies and cultures and villages and small towns and colonies that when we say it's supposed to be that authority is supposed to. And the way that our beautiful government is organized is the authority supposed to be passed down to the lowest level.

We're not supposed to have this big, powerful federal government. Right. It is supposed to be down to the states, the states down to the counties, the counties down to the smallest jurisdiction. So perhaps the court system, once you convicted of this? Yeah, all the way down to like where that person was convicted. Right. You know, but you're a multi-time felon that's on like the terror watch list after you tried to smuggle a bomb onto a plane. And you've been arrested in like state, local, federal court.

You don't need a gun. I need a gun against you. Yeah. So do you see like a lot of on the conservative side of this, they're pushing towards where everybody should have a right to have a gun regardless of their. I'm too busy them shitting on me to know. Yeah. It seems like to me. It's not many.

Man, but they're loud. Yeah. And every time I post anything, it's like, oh, yeah, but you don't think a 19-year-old should have a gun. I was like, that's not what I was saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like right now, the law in the books,

it's 18. You can own possess a long gun, a rifle, a shotgun. You can't get a younger than that? Just 18. And then when you're 21, you can own some states. Some states might be younger, though. Yeah, I think I had a shotgun. when I was like

16. Oh, okay, yeah, it depends on the state problem. Yeah. Most states of Iran, you can't have a pistol D-21, right? Yeah. I mean,

my nine-year-old has a suppressed 22, and he shoots just fine. I mean, he's not walking around would it concealed anything. I would trust him over most. Right, right. But that's against the logo. But not you.

You don't be walking around. Yeah, you said butts. I said, no, I don't have any butts. No, my 9-year-old was. But it's on me. It should be on me. Right, yeah. The individual and the responsible parent and nuclear family be like,

no, son, you can't carry a gun today. Well, you know what? I think the people that was attacking you, they're going to love you after this interview. Yeah. I don't think so. No, you said your 9-year boy can walk around a concealed weapon. They're going to love you.

Confirmation bias is a dangerous disease where, like, they'll only find the things in this whole entire conversation. Exactly. They've accepted the 10% that gets what they want. Right. That's how it works. Well, they're going to be disingenes because he's taking things out of context. People are calling out for it.

Their fan base don't know. Oh, he said that. Fuck him. They're not going to take the time to go look at the park. Right. Most people don't. They don't care. Yeah.

Yeah. They just want to sound cool, get right, have more followers and not really. I mean, I just want to contribute to freedom. Yeah. And, like, encourage people to be sovereign. Yeah. Now, you've got, how many schools do you own? Well, that's the cool thing about sovereignty is I don't want to own any of them.

So all the schools that are opening this year, we are equipping, training, mentoring, showing people how to do their books, how to organize within the state that they're in. So they have their own school. Oh, okay. Like our goal is to abolish the Department of Education and give sovereignty of education back to the families, back to the individual, where it's supposed to be. Again, not the federal government saying, hey, these are the tests that you should know. This is what we think it looks like for you to be a good tax fuel.

So you can go and provide for our government funds to ship money off to whatever countries we're shipping money off to. We're saying like, no, no, give the authority back to the family, give the authority back to the individual to raise their kids and educate their kids the way that would create a critical thinker and a contributing member of society. There's no critical thinking. Should be based in critical reason logic. That's right. A lot of our degrees, especially high school, you should learn how to rational and. irrational. That's all it's supposed to be. It should be, yeah. Like, not to regurgitate

some stupid memorized thing that you'll never use for the rest of your life. I need to teach these young men and women how to use their brain. Right, right. Read basic math and to think logically. That's what we should be. I'll see as much math as we possibly can. You can never have too much math. I don't know, man. That's all like... Wait a minute. I know, man, I look at cats. I'm like,

what the fuck do I need this for? That's logic. I don't need to learn how to go to the moon. I just need to know how much I owe for this sandwich. Calculence is crazy. It's not even numbers anymore. It's all letter. There's a lot in there.

It's a lot of logic to that. Yeah. Yeah. Were you good in calculus? I was all right. Man, this is Tim Kennedy to be talking. I was all right in school.

But for Apogee Strong, and anybody that's listening, Apogee Strong.com, that is like the movement. It's literally a movement. Appetteachy Strong.com. Appetteachy Strong. And, you know, three years ago, one school. Last year we added mentorship,

prepping for this year, which is where we're opening 50 schools. We'll open 500 schools next year. Wow. I mean, like, I say that I want to give sovereignty back to the family and to the individual. That is not us in any way should perform. Like, yeah, we're going to have 500 schools. It's like, no, no, no. I'm enabling and empowering a bunch of individual communities to include here in Las Vegas and in Henderson. They're opening one here. Yes, your schools are real bad.

Right. And they're not producing any critical thinkers. No. A bunch of violence and criminals. Like when you look at Baltimore, Chicago, and you look at the public school system, what they've done to the black community, it's like, it should be criminal. And it's like, that's never politicized by the mainstream media. And those black people, when they're graduating high school, they should be ready to seek their American dream. But they're not ready for that.

They can only be criminals. Yeah. They're not graduating high school. Yeah. I mean, they're not, when they graduate, even though they graduate, they're not reading it. a certain level. They should be ready to achieve the American dream, but instead, they don't know shit, so they're criminals. The thing that they're

learning, they're not learning in school. They're learning how to survive, and that is in the community that's positioning and preparing them to come back into criminality. Right, right. So instead, instead of like, hey, let's ship a kid off to school where he's just being programmed with radical

ideas, but the whole entire time he's actually being groomed and mentored to go into a gang. Right. Why don't we start feeding this person off opportunity early about how do you balance a book? What does a profit and loss statement look like? How do you change a tire? How do you actually do the basics of running a business?

Like Democrats push decided there there's a waste gap between black and white, but there's a waste gap between black and everything. And this all comes to education. But they don't mention that. They implied that it's due to racism. Yeah. It's a public school system. I'm obviously not black.

Right. And I don't think... And you ought to tell God you are thankful. I don't think that there's ever... It's hard being a Negro. One thing that's a problem. So do I agree that public education is a problem in the black community? 100%.

Do I think that's the only problem? No. There's a bunch of other problems. And if we're like, hey, if we fix the public education, these blacks would fix that wage gap. Now, they're going to go to school and beat the hell out of everybody. You know what I have, when I think of education, I don't think it in the same terms of how we're teaching kids nowadays.

Like when I think of education, I'm thinking class one, philosophy, class two, critical thinking, class three, the Constitution, class four, learning plumbing, class five, architecture. These are damn super kids. Air conditioning. Is there not, though? Just learning trade. Yeah, I know.

You're going out. If your toilet break, you know how to fix it. You know, if your car break down, you know how to fix it. It's like, we get out of school, you don't know anything. They know nothing. But at some point, they're going to find something when they're doing all that stuff that they're interested in. Right. And then we get to, like, really accelerate them into ultimately is going to be an opportunity, them to have a job.

Right. Right. You know. When they get out of high school, you have absolutely no skills. When you get out of college, I have these people that come in and apply. They send me their resume like, here's my little LinkedIn thing. And I'll fix my bowtie.

Right. And do you got a, do you have soy milk? No, get out. You know, like you got your pronouns pre, like attached your resume. Get out. Yeah. But they attach value to all this stuff, but they have no value. They're truly useless and they provide nothing. They've been programmed

to be programmable, but I don't have time to program them to do what I want. I need them to show up and be able to work. Right. But they don't know how to work. because they've never worked a day in their life and they have 100 grand in debt. Right, right. Oh my God, I just paid off my student loans.

Didn't learn shit. That was in, uh, what? 80,000 in debt? Wow. That's criminal. Yeah. But you know why I got messed up like that? The government stepped in to subsidize everybody's education.

So what are the schools going to do? Raise everything up because it's getting paid for. Yeah. Now the government comes, hey, we need to fix this. You took out that loan. That was not right. They're taking advantage of you. And didn't he come in and act like this same of the situation?

You started public education? Yeah. Rockefeller. No shit. You know what he wanted? What? He wanted factory workers. He wanted labor.

Meals. He, like, verbatim, he's quote in saying, I don't need him smart enough. I just need them to be able to work in the factory. So he wants tax mules. He wants literal mules that can carry his stuff, that can work in his factories. And that's what we've, that's what we've created. We have a system that's based on creating people to work in our labor force, not to critically think, not to collaborate, not to innovate, not to create,

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It's a broken system from the beginning. Yeah. Got a damn good episode going on. And before we get to that, hey, over 94% of y'all are watching, but you ain't subscribed. What kind of bullshit is that? Did you forget?

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And I'm pretty sure that you swing politically. You are conservative, libertarian. I'm a conservative libertarian. I define myself as a constitutional libertarian. Yeah, which makes you a full right extremist now. Evidently, which is weird because I don't actually align with, like, tyranny at all. Which is very odd.

Right. Because when I say freedom, I mean like, which is the opposite of tyranny. Like, I want you to leave me alone. I don't want you to tell me what to do. I don't want you to tell me what my family is going to do. I don't want you to tell me what medicines. You're going to try to force me to take or I can't get on a bus.

If I don't, I'm going to, I mean all of it. The COVID vaccine. Oh, here we go. Here we go. When I started to do it? No, I'm just real quick. Just real quick. Real quick, we get on and get off of it.

Like, that had the same efficacy as a flu shot. The same efficacy, right? It doesn't stop you from getting it. I don't. Right. I don't understand why was a flu shot makes your heart explode. Right. Or give you a stroke.

I don't want to, the one thing to that I don't understand about the COVID vaccine and the mandates is like if it doesn't give you immunity, if it doesn't stop you from catching or spreading it, why was they forcing it on people? Because they made a lot of money doing that. Yeah, that's it. That's what I was. That's it.

A lot of billion else was created because of that vaccine. I have a friend who was very seriously injured by that. I have a bunch of friends that were seriously. People have died, but nobody wanted to shine a light. Why doesn't the left acknowledge that? Confirmation bias. You know, they're like, oh, let's point our fingers over here. It's always this next issue that they're going to use to be the circus.

Right. Just like Rome, you know, like, hey, we've got the Coliseum. We'll feed the peasant's bread and we'll give them a show. And that for us, as if you look at the news cycle, the way that the media works and politicians are really. On both sides, Keith. That's right. The left's not calling out. The right's not calling it. The right's not calling it. Yeah. You got Kennedy sitting there pounding the COVID drum. And that's about it. Right. Right. And he's, I like Jeff, Kate. June. RFK, R of K, Joe. I like him. He kind of went off the rails so lately.

Yeah, he said, when it came to an abortion, oh, I saw that. He said, just leave it up to the woman. Yeah. That's like, hmm,

ain't that a conflict fan? If a woman walks into an abortion clinic at nine months and she wants an abortion, that's mental illness. That's nothing a rational

person would do. We shouldn't give women a right to do that unless their life's at risk. And at that point, don't kill the baby, you do in the emergency C-section. Yeah.

I mean, these things that they're pushing on left It doesn't make any sense to me. Now, I mean, he said full term. Yeah, that's, that's it. He said there's a full baby that's like, you have to go. It's going to come out and have a life and be a thing. You know what's crazy?

My daughter was a preemie. She was born in seven months. She could breathe and everything. She was in the hospital maybe two and a half, three weeks, and we took a home. And he's talking about going in at nine months, full term. It's like, no, it's changing the mind. And Second Amendment, too, is another sticky point with that man. Yeah.

Yeah. He is a Kennedy-era Democrat. Yeah, he's a liberal. But like JFK, like there are a lot of, you know, his uncle is a liberal. He's a progressive. Yeah, he says he's liberal. Full term, abortion.

That's not liberal. That's a lot. Yeah. Yeah. But then as a libertarian, a Christian, that is pro-life, me, a man, am I in a position to tell other people

what they're going to be doing with their bodies? No, but there's a baby in there that also has a vote. And we all have to agree that at what point... Well, Tim, they say it's Olympus sales. It's not a human yet. It's not, man. They don't acknowledge reality. Yeah. And they dehumanizing a baby. did.

Yeah. Just kill it. Yeah. I don't know how fat bitch you can walk around for like nine months. Feel this baby growing, kicking and everything. Your feet and it's getting big, bringing you're growing. And then at the damn finish line, you're like, no, I changed my mind. That's, yeah.

And then to embrace that, that is, that's nuts. Damn kidding. Hey, you're not a, you know, you're not kidding to him, are you? Joyce, he's in Austin tonight. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And, um, and they're like, one of my friends was hey can you come to and meet him tonight at the dinner party and I was like man I seriously would love to

like love to hear him speak and I do like to listen to everybody exactly yeah I do do have to and if you pull to my Twitter up you'd like you follow you on Omar is like yeah you follow costa Cortez like yeah you got to I listen I listen because I want to hear it from the horse's mouth and I didn't mean that to disparage any woman by the way that she looks yeah she's not going to like that you call a little horse and all. But, you know, just like I follow the opposing ideas. You have to. Yeah.

It keeps you grounded. So, yeah, I was excited. I was like, yeah, man, I'd love to. I prioritize you guys. Oh, man, you picked us over Kennedy? Over a presidential candidate. And they say there's a sex thing that's white privilege. I don't believe in right privilege.

So it's two Negroes of a white guy. And he's a damn Kennedy. And that's what I call progress. We're making it. We're doing it, guys. Way to go. Let's keep going. happen this next election. What do you see happening?

Bro, I think it's going to burn. It doesn't matter. If he wins, it burns. If he doesn't win, it burns. It burns. It's a dangest place to be in. I'm also here for it. You want it to happen. I'm not jealous. You think Trump's going to pull it out this time?

I have no idea. Yeah. If 2020 blew my mind. Did you see how many, he just had a rally in a blue state? 100,000 people attended in New Jersey. In Jersey. He didn't just...

And then he said he's going to win Jersey. I think he has a chance. Well, the polls say he has a chance. Yeah. In Jersey. Hey, but those polls ain't taking... Well, do these still have the mail-in ballots in some states? They're doing...

I mean, there's only six months. You look at what happened with those mail-in ballots. And there can't be a... same person that looks there and be like, yeah, that was Democratic. You know? That's a good legitimate election that we just had. Yeah, you can't, I mean, I want everybody to vote. Yeah.

They don't acknowledge that. There's weakness when it comes to Maryland past to open a fraud. Yeah. The same thing when if you don't have an idea, you'll open a fraud if you don't verify things. I'm fine to lose. I don't like it. Think we're going to lose? That's how I said.

But if we're going to lose. like it has we are the beacon of freedom for the world and we have to have the cleanest election. Yeah. Like no more of this mailing stuff like this late stuff. This like, oh, we found, oh, we lost. I don't know where these 200,000 pictures of these ballots were, even though we know it was a very conservative county. They just got lost.

That just can't happen. And I get it like you have your beliefs and you're like, you subscribe to this idea and you're in this camp. Whatever camp that is, you first have to believe in the American process. And both sides should agree that it has to happen in the most fair way. Right. Otherwise, we're screwed. Yeah.

And the world is screwed. California, Florida, Texas, we know that night. I don't know why these smaller states took so long. Like Arizona. Yeah. Yeah, why it took so long. Georgia. Georgia.

Right. Yeah, we know what happening. It all happened in swing states. Yeah. You know what happening, Georgia. It's not American. Yeah. That's a good old boy state.

That is not a blue state. I know. At all. At all. Atlanta is. I mean, Atlanta, yeah, but that stuff. But that place is crazy. Dude, Atlanta, have you been...

That's the gayest place on the... Everybody's gay there. It's just not Georgia. Dude, when I get off the plane, women attack me there. Because all the men is gay. All the men are gay. All the men are gay. Grandma have all the men is gay all the men are gay yeah yeah yeah yeah

yeah but I'm not sure I'm made for 2024 yeah oh I'm sure you're made for 2020 I don't think I'm made I was at um I was in Washington DC for the White House Correspondence dinner and um it was really cool I got to attend listen to our president and I'm just gonna say stop there, it's cool to listen to a president speak. Like to be there. Right. Okay. Even though it's Biden. Yeah. No qualifier. It's probably pretty funny. Would you go there?

Like, my buddy Dakota Meyer got a Medal of Honor from Obama. Like, is that Medal of Honor? Less. Still worse something. It's the fucking medal of honor. It's the middle of honor. You know, like. Even if a black guy did give it to you.

That's not what I'm saying. Why are you guys doing? I can make these jokes. I can make these jokes. It felt like I was in the upside-down universe. Yeah. The things that everybody was wearing, the way that they're acting, you know, and they're like celebrating, they had this first black, gay.

I don't know actually what he was. He's the first to be in this position. And everybody was like, wow, this is like historic. And I was like, because he's black and gay. Yeah. Yeah, he probably got the position because he's black and gay. But I was like, who cares? Right, right.

I don't. It's weird to identity politics they play. It doesn't make sense. Like he chose that he appointed the Supreme Court Justice. I forget her name. She didn't even want to identify what a woman was. She didn't want to even articulate it.

Said it's up to the individual. I was like, you're a judge. You're not a judge. You're a politician. And that's dangerous for the Supreme Court. For anybody to be appointed to be a politician over a judge. My four-year-old's really good at figuring out boys and girls, by the way. Yeah.

So it's like my four-year-old can do it, but the Supreme Court Justice from whatever Ivy League university she went to figure it out she needs to go spend time with my four year old or my nine year old that's carrying a suppressed pistol

in either case they'll both straighten her out hey I want to bring up a quick question with you Vivek we really liked Vivique oh man I loved him that was my guy

and yeah he was our guy and I liked him too when he was here I went woke on him I said yeah he was here yeah he was right there yeah he was right there yeah

but Vique was right there yeah and we kind of went walk on him I said, I'm surprised you didn't poll as good as the other Republic. I said, I think it's because you're too dark. I told him that. The reason why I bring that up is... I don't think you're wrong. Yeah, exactly.

So he didn't want to admit that. I don't think it's that... Well, I think it disparages the party that he's currently working for. Exactly. And I think the Republican Party, like, we're good with, like, a black guy. We can do that. We're good with, like, maybe even a gay guy. Like, a gay black guy?

Definitely not. Like, a brown guy? Nah, that's confusing, you know? He sounds like Obama. Too much. Like, he was penalized for being articulate. For sure. Yeah.

And the reason. It can only happen on a Republican party. The reason why bring yourself, Ann Coulter, they had a podcast. Did you see that? Yeah. And Cota told him to his face, I didn't vote for you because you're Indian. Yeah, that's like. And it was like, I kind of felt that well, it's like people, because when I hear him, he's like, AI, he's perfect.

But people's like. No, he sounds like Obama, and they didn't give him a chance. And it's like, I think Ann Coulter hit the nail on the head why he didn't get his much support. I think it was a combination of two things. I think how Trump is being persecuted because I feel obligated. Because I love Vavik. I loved, damn, Desantis.

But everything ain't doing to Trump is, it felt like I was Nikki Haley. He was holding to him. I have to vote for him. Yeah, I get that. But Nikki Haley, Paul better than Vovic. Because it was Democrats voting vote. I don't know.

He should have done. He should have did a whole lot better. Or a shot show. I had a few minutes with him. And I like people that have their positions, you know, and they have their beliefs. I really appreciate when somebody can explain and can elaborate. Exactly. And make me understand why they have those beliefs.

And that's what he could do. And he did it in such like an articulate way that I was truly impressed and dumbfounded. presidential right very presidential and he was so clear and so concise and so efficient with his words but all of the things that he said was supporting an idea you know and when we're at shot show so it was very freedom oriented right my questions were very direct and like all right what are your positions on the second amendment and dude it wasn't that he just had a position but he had the explanation and could articulate why he had that position i was like yeah amazing that's a skill all politicians should have, but they don't.

I listen to Trump in Carolina a couple of weeks ago. Man, that he is vibrant right now. Yeah, yeah. He is, he is spry. Yes. And, uh, look at his front of him and he's half dead. So whatever he's going to make trouble.

Yeah, but Trump looks great. He's out there golfing. Yeah, no. Yeah. He's aging like a fine wine. You got, he got up on that stage and for 20 minutes, he went off. Yeah. Really? And I was like, and I, and I, I mean, I've, I was five feet, ten feet from him. And, uh, and he's a big guy. How tall is he? Six, four.

Six, four. Okay. He does this thing when he, like, shakes your hand. He, like, grabs you and pulls you in, you know? Right. I noticed that when he's talking to a leader. Don't try to arm drag a professional UFC fighter. He's like, I'll redrag you right back.

And I did. Oh, you did? Yes, I did. And he said, oh. And then we, like, immediately had a reporter, like, hanging out and I was like, And, you know, we're talking about veteran suicide and veteran mental health. We're talking about why a nonprofit organization, like Save Our Allies is having to go into all these different countries. Like, why is that?

I don't want to have to do that. I'm like, why do I have to start a bunch of, like, why do I have to help launch a bunch of schools right now? You know, Matt Boudreau, my partner in Napi's strong, that guy works, 100 hours work a week right now, trying to get all these schools prepared. We shouldn't have to do that. Yeah. You know, like, I want to hang out with my family. I got a hot wife. I got rad kids.

Like, I want to, like, you want to be playing with the kids and banging. Yeah, that's right. You know, I don't want to be, like, helping in a coup in Sudan. Or, like, getting Americans out of Niger, like going to Israel after a terrorist attack or going to Afghanistan to help for evacuation. Like, I don't want to do any of that.

Just like almost like our government, you know, they're supposed to be our support, but they're not supporting us. Everything they do is, like, slowly deteriorating our life. Like, like, the money we pay in taxes. it's just astronomical. It's just stupid. And then they take all our tax dollars

and then they give it to other countries, other wars. They're on top of it, they print money, devaluing our currency and making us even poor. It's like they're not holding up to their promises.

Yeah. You're fired up now. Yeah. Just don't shoot. Don't even talk to me about taxes. Yeah. Dude, like, doesn't make sense.

I'm a serial entrepreneur. You know, a bunch of businesses. You hate the self-employed tax. I know I hate it. It's crazy. They tax me on the stuff when I buy it. They tax me on the stuff when I sell it.

They tax me on the stuff to house it in my property, on my building, that I have to pay property taxes that I own. And then I have to pay them another tax to be able to operate out of that building to sell the stuff that they're taxing me on, that I paid taxes on to buy. And then if I make a profit, then they tax me on the profit. And then the profit, I have to individually pay a tax for income off of. And the left doesn't even acknowledge it. They say that's being patriotic.

Oh, I'm patriotic. Patriotic for me is like hoisting a flag and throwing tea in a harbor. Yeah, right. And start not opening my wallet and giving it to it. Uh-uh. Like when tyranny is in my face And I start Here it

Just I don't feel a line You're like in California, New York I moved the hell out of there You're paying almost I think 6% of your money Is going to the government With taxes

Easily. Yeah You're from San Luis Obisco How you said? San Luis Obispo Shit, that's a tongue twist For me San Luis Obispo

San Luis Obispo You're just fine You got a talented time Yeah, you've got that thick Negro tone. San Luis Obispo. It's not Po. San Luis Obisco.

That's not. That's Crisco. They don't make that anymore. Too many trans fats in that. San Luis Obisco. No. San Luis Obispo. San Luis Obispo.

No, that words just feel with white supremacy. They made that word so black people can pronounce. It's definitely not white. It's Spanish. Well, they were white enough. Yeah, it's probably white Spanians. San Luis.

Those stupid white Louises. Maybe we should have a tax protest. Yeah? Yes. Oh, they did that. But then they were categorized as terrorists. So can't do that. Yeah, maybe don't do that.

If I come to you, y'all. A lot of Republicans, I forget the names, but they want to do away with the internal revenue. Tax-fright tax. They just want a flat tech like a sales tax. I'm here for that. Yeah. Sales tax on everything. Everything you buy, there's a tax.

Right. And make it, everybody pays the same sales tax. I buy a lot of stuff. Yeah. I would still pay a lot of taxes. Yeah. Yeah. But it'd be fair.

It'd be fair. It'd be fair. I'm for fair. And I am for flat taxes. I am for the abolishment of the IRS. I'm for the abolishment of the ATF. I am for the abolishment of most of our intelligence agencies. They don't do a lot of good.

I mean, no President Malay in Argentina you know yeah yeah yeah the white Trump he's supposed to be the Trump of did you see when he wrote all the names that all the different agencies in

Argentina no I didn't see that oh this is this is this is epic which I just pulled up because it would really warm your souls yeah so he wrote yeah pull it up yeah he put it so he takes this whiteboard

he puts the names of every single agency and department and the whole entire Argentine government and he just starts abolishing them. Wow. Like literally, he's like, gone, gone, gone. He just goes down the whole board and just abolishes department and agency after agency. Wow.

And it is freaking amazing and the first time that they've had balanced books in 60 years. Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing. The United States government don't even run. We run at, they came in balance that checkbook. debt goes up every year. And nobody holds them accountable.

Minister of transporte. Afura. Offer. Ministry of health. Afwer. Well, I saw this. Yeah. Minister of work.

Employer and security social. Afwera. He's literally just abolishing departments right. Out. Ministry of culture. Afwer. Minister of the ambient and development.

Sustainable. Afwer. Ministry of the women of the women's gender and diversity. Afwer. Minister of works public.

You're going to resist. We're going to stay here. Minister of Science and Technology and Innovation. There's a good of the sector private. Now, well, it's the sector public. Afore. Ministry of the Work, Employer and Security Social. Aforea.

Ministry of Education. Adoctrination. Afwara. Afwara. The Ministry of Health. We have to get you. They've just swelled. just swelled and we've gone to such a place.

Cut that motherfucker off. It's not sustainable. We're too top heavy. Yeah. And we're tumbling. We're tipping and we're just, we've got to get there. All we ever going to get there, though? I think so.

There's a lot of stupid people in this country. I didn't realize how stupid people were until COVID hit. Yeah. Just people are just dumb. Yeah. They're just stupid. You wear out. mask and your eyes are wide open. People don't realize

a bars float right up in your freaking eyeballs you get set. What is with the people still wearing masks? I don't, it's just people just get indoctrinated. I want to know, I want to understand. Like if I could follow a Twitter handle that's like, I wear a mask because

there has to be a reason. I think it's a capacity issue. It's indoctrination. Like those protesters were on the school campuses. Well, they're wearing masks to hide their face. Yeah, yeah. And they're ugly. Yeah. Oh, they're really ugly. I say, here, put some mask.

You do this. I'm not joking. Have you seen them? Oh, yeah. I don't mean to be rude. They're flying that flag. Yeah. But like you're walking through the airport or even like, I've been on the trail.

And like I'm just running. I got my dog and somebody like crosses the street and they're wearing a mask. I'm like, what? And it's outside. What is going on? Like, are you right? Yeah. Yeah.

Is my dog going to cough on you? Yeah. Yeah. Is there... I think it's a false sense of security. It's like a pacifier for them. That mask does absolutely nothing for you. I'm going to get sick.

Yeah. I pity them, though. Yeah. But they vote. I don't know if you can... I don't know if you can save this country. It's like our school systems, it's like the news indoctrines everybody. It's like you're fighting a losing battle.

Because it's easier to be dumb and indoctrinated than to be, educated and aware, objectively. I feel so good to be free, though. Yeah. To be free, you have to be self-sustained. You have to be able to protect yourself and provide for your family. You have to be able to support your family. And like when you check a couple of these blocks,

the feeling on the other side of that, like a little bit of hard work, the freedom on the other side of that hard work is like, I want to give everybody a taste of that. Yeah. Because, man, it feels so good. Yeah. The sad thing about it, some people don't want it.

I don't want to. How is that possible? They want the government to take care of them? They won't. It always ends the same way. It's just going to be more empty promises. I've figured that out because the majority of my adult life, I was a Democrat. But Obama changed my mind.

His second term actually voted for a rhino, Mitt Romney. And ever since, I've never vote for another Democrat. That's not a great vote, though. Yeah. That's all we have. Think about it. That's what the Republican Party was, Mitt Romney. I think.

This came a long way. I think Obama, I think it's great. We had a black president. Don't get me wrong. But I think. He half black. He's black enough. All right.

Yeah. I'm just saying us having a black president, but I think he was there. I think we intensely. Yeah, because he ran against McCain and. They wasn't good candidates. They're actually Democrats. Yeah, both weak conservative candidates. Yeah, I think Obama won because they wanted him to win.

Yeah. Who's going to be Trump's VP? Who's that good-looking black guy, shaved head, Scott? Tim Scott? Tim Scott. I think he's attractive? I think he's a good-looking dude. He's not my type.

I'm more of a Hershal Walker type of guy. Herschel Walker's awesome all day long. No, I think Herschel's a friend. I love Herschel. Yeah. I love Tim Scott. You don't South Carolina? I think he's going to pick a woman.

I think he's going to pick a woman. Yeah. That woman vote. After the whole big woman's funny. I don't think he's going to choose a brown person. I think he'll go for a woman because women, a lot of women vote. A woman vice president can swing a lot of female voters. Governor Sanders, Arkansas.

Yeah. Yeah, she would be great. She's pretty amazing. Yeah, she's awesome. Tulsi. Tosie Gab would be a great. She's brown too, so. Well, she's not that brown.

She's white brown. Yeah, she's white brown. That's more palatable. Fucking surface. He's so. No, look what if the fake was awesome. Yeah. It is awesome.

If you wasn't. He is awesome. I want him to get appointed to like, over the state. Oh, that'd be fun. I was thinking more of, he would think that. Like, over the entire intelligence community.

Yeah. Or, like, Department of Justice. Yeah. Department of Commerce. That would be awesome. Yeah, he is a billionaire. He's a business man. Yeah. He would clean that up.

Yeah, he'd be like gone. Yeah, exactly. He would definitely clean that up. That would be, he would be great for that. Yeah. Who do you think would be Trump's press secretary? I'd say Alex Jones. I mean, he's been right about a lot of things.

He hasn't been wrong about much at all. Yeah, he's been wrong about a few things, but he's more, he's been a more right than wrong. A couple things he got wrong kind of blew up in his face pretty bad. But, uh, yeah, that one wrong thing.

It was, if you write 99 of the 100, that wasn't wrong you did? That was really wrong. A lot of the things that he's, that made him sound so crazy, like turning the frogs gay. Right.

It's so true. You're fine out or actually true. Right. It's true. Alex Jones, but you can't say it out loud. Be like, he called it.

Yeah. Yeah. He had the boss to say it when nobody else would. That dude was at Waco. That dude's been doing what he's doing for a long time. The Bilderbergers. He was the first one that was now that infiltrated and said, hey, all these billionaires and all these world leaders and like the leaders of these banks,

they're all coming and getting together and deciding what's going to happen on international policy. They're not doing it via official channels. And everybody's like, now you're crazy. So then he paid a bunch of investigative journalists. He paid their out of his own pocket personal money to staff some of the places that he thought they might host these events. And he was right. Wow. And he had people on the inside that were working at the hotels that were hosting the first Bilderbergers events.

That's crazy. And now it's like the World Economic Forum and the World Health Organization. And all of these are organizations that were kind of spun off or started to control the decisions made by the Bilderbergers. And that dude called it. Yeah, that's correct. Press Secretary. Did you see that when Kanye was on his show? No.

He made Alex Jones A black Jew hater Oh my God You gotta be You gotta say some crazy things To make him uncomfortable Dude was dressed like a gimp You didn't see it

No Man that was crazy Yeah Anyway Hey man it's been a great podcast What do you have the plug Where can people find you What you got

You want people know about Be free Get your kids out of school. Don't let them be indoctrinated. I'm homeschooling my kids. Yeah. I really think you've got three options right now. Until something happens with public education.

You either homeschool them, option one. Option two, find a school that aligns with your values, a private school, and be very involved in that school. And then get involved with local politics to push school choice so that's affordable for everybody. Right. And then third is start your school. own school. Those are the only options. And Appigee strong, AppigeeStrong.com, we're helping in all three of those. But like, for parents, I think that's the only thing you've got to do on the education side.

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That's the key to saving America. Yeah. You can't be fat. You can't be dumb and be free. Yeah. You're fat and dumb. You're dependent. Well, you can be dumb and be free.

So stupid, you don't realize you're going to have a collar on your neck one way or another. Yeah. Like, you're either a tie. Like, that's just so your master knows that you're not going to run away. Right. But like, shake those chains and actually start living free. A lot of people are mentally enslaved. The only one of those.

Black community. Thanks for having my own, guys. You guys are the best. Can we do a right-handed shake? Yeah. Yeah, that's better. Thank you. There you go.

I appreciate you guys. I've left to add it. Yeah. Amazing.