Hodgetwins Podcast - Twins Pod - Episode 14 - Destiny: Top Black Conservatives VS Top Blue Haired Liberal!

Episode Date: May 24, 2024

3 HOUR PODCAST/DEBATE With Destiny, "The Omni Liberal" I hope y'all are prepared to look into the mind of a liberal for 3 HOURS! Destiny says some WILD stuff and it is how the average "liberal" thinks! We get into it with him about LGBT, Trans issues, Simmping, WW3, Jan 6, Big Pharma, Trump Vs Biden, and MUCH MORE! Top Black Conservatives Vs Top Blue Haired Liberal! Y'all ready?! Get your Twins merch and have a chance to win a truck - https://officialhodgetwins.com/ Optimal Human - https://optimalhuman.com/hodgetwins Want to be a guest on the Twins Pod? Contact us at [e-mail] Download Free Twins Pod Content - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_iNb2RYwHUisypEjkrbZ3nFoBK8k60CO Follow Twins Pod Everywhere - X - https://twitter.com/TheTwinsPod Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thetwinspod/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/twinspod TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@twinspod Rumble - https://rumble.com/c/TwinsPod Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/79BWPxHPWnijyl4lf8vWVu?si=03960b3a8b6b4f74 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/twins-pod/id1731232810 02:33 - Relationships 04:39 - Is Destiny A C***? 06:23 - Twins Double Teamed A Guys WIfe?! 10:12 - Why Didn't Destiny's Wives Stay? 11:25 - Is Destiny Gay Or Bi? 15:29 - Can Porn Ruin Your Mind? 17:37 - Dealing With Vices 19:47 - Big Pharma & Covid Debate 38:45 - Trans Rights/Trans Kids Debate 47:03 - Circumcision Debate 47:51 - Can You Be Taught To Be Gay? 58:20 - What Is A Woman? 1:07:38 - Definitions Matter 1:11:53 - LIberal Or Progressives 1:34:05 - Why Does Destiny Like Joe Biden? 1:36:00 - Ukraine & Russia Debate 1:47:21 - Wasting Billions of Dollars On Ukraine 1:54:23 - Why Does Doestiny Hate Trump So Much?\ 2:02:43 - Does The Biden Family Have Vested Interest In Ukraine? 2:07:35 - Trump Witch Hunts 2:10:37 - Did Trump Collude With Russia? 2:12:09 - Big Tech & Hunter Biden Laptop 2:19:48 - Destiny Really Does Not Like Trump 2:26:20 - Is There Anything Destany Likes About Trump? 2:35:32 - Destiny Loves Masks 2:42:54 - What Happens This 2024 Election? 2:44:16 - January 6th Debate 2:55:02 - Destiny's Views Are Wild

We got Stephen here, also known as Destiny. How you doing, Steve? Doing good? How you doing? You're doing pretty good. Now, people call this, what do you call it? Being a cuck. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah.

We had some experience in that way now. It was just a guy who was like, you know, watching people have sex with his wife. I said, I got a twin brother. Can I bring him along? He said, the more the merry. Long story short, we had sex with his wife and he watched. I couldn't even get hard because he kept looking at him.

Was the first time you guys? Is it fucked in front of each other? Yeah, it was like, it's weird. It feels like you're looking at yourself. The worst. So you're straight. You're straight guy. I'm like bisexualish.

Bisexualish. I don't think I ever date a guy. We're all hook up with him. What the fuck? That's gay-splaining. Like, if my wife came home and I was down sucking a dude's cock, she would say I'm gay. Would she say you're gay or that's gay? I'm gay.

You are gay. What is a woman? What? Fuck, that's a really complicated question. Man, come on. That's an insanely fucking complicated question. Here's, okay,

without diving too deep and all this dumbass shit, okay, listen, okay? Jesus Christ, okay? Yeah, episode 14, we got a... Destin. He got a black woman's name.

We got a love to suck up. He's known as the top liberal. Yeah, but before we get to his gas, we gotta pay the bills. Yeah. Optimal human. All in one, nutritional drink, Taste good is good for brain health.

Good health. Got a renamed ingredients made here in America. Go to optimal human.com forward slash hearts twins and get 50% off. Yeah. Yeah. Episode 15. We got Stephen here, also known as Destiny.

How you doing, Steve? Doing good. How you doing? We're doing pretty good. We're doing pretty good. All right, so our goal of this podcast, we came across you, David. Nick Fuentes, you did something.

Yeah. and fit. The main reason why we want you here is because the majority of people came on our podcast. It's been conservative. Yeah. I don't want to put myself in, I'm just having conservatives come on. I want to actually hear other people's respect. That's right. Right. Don't want to put myself in an isolate myself like that. Yeah, so we want to get your worldview. So we're going to ask you some questions. Yeah. Um, what should we start

over first? Relationships. Yeah. That'd be good. Relationships. Now, you've been, how many times have you been married? Twice? me too. All right, good job. Yeah. Are you on your second one now? You're looking for your third?

No, no, no. This one's working. Yeah, the first one I think I was just too young. I got married. I was 19-I was in Marine Corps. And she got pregnant and I was just trying to do the right thing. Oh, sure. Yeah.

My first one was, I'm not like a big marriage guy. The first one was because of, it's a long story. But, no, it's not that long. But you know what the FAFSA is for financial aid for college and shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. application and you're like, oh, are you an independent? Of course I am. Because you're thinking like your taxes, but the way that the college looks at you to be an independent or not, there's a whole other list of qualifications. So I've been away from my parents for two years. And then I realized that their gross income is going to determine my financial aid, even though I don't get any support

for them. So you either join the military, have a kid, kill your parents, get married. And of all the options. Yeah. Me and my wife, me and my girlfriend in high school, we got married for financial aid. It worked for financial aid. And then my most recent wife, we got, she was Swedish and I was American. So obviously I want to live with my fucking girlfriend. So the only way for her to live in the U.S. is to get a green card to get married. Yeah. Yeah, my wife is an immigrant from Mexico, see. Okay.

Yeah, when Trump became president, she started freaking out. She thought she was going to get deported. My wife, too. My wife, Salisco. But the thing is, a lot of people understand, like, politics and the TV, they scare a lot of immigrants. A lot of people of color. So she was actually a legal resident being in the country, but she went to CNN. I'm not sure where MSNBC, but she's,

actually thought that Trump was going to come to our door, deport her. I heard, yeah, people have, like, you said she was a lawful person, so she had the green card? Yeah, yeah, people say she'll like that. It's like, if we're deporting the green card people, they would have had to have gotten through, that's like 20, 30, 40 million people.

Yeah. How many millions of people are going to start deporting in the United States? Like, there's no way that's going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of people getting relationships for a lot of different reasons. But your relationships are kind of been, what's the way I'm looking for?

Next story in there? Unconviction. Sure. Right. Now, people call this, what do you call it, being a cuck? Yeah, that's the one. Yeah. It's like what Adam 22 is kind of doing, right?

Yeah, for a while, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. But so I want to ask you this. We have a little experience in this, not actually. Well, we'll get to that. I'll get to that. Yeah.

Okay. Jesus. Okay. So, so. What is it about do you like... It's tough question. You're explained to us. No, shut up.

My ass to question. So what about do you, so you like watching other men have sex with your girl or your wife? No, not really, no. No. Explain to us. So before the red pill shit, these are just called open relationships. But then after like the red pill stuff, people became obsessed. I call it cuck hunting where people would like look for cuckoldry like fucking everywhere.

Like if you're a girlfriend, like fuck the guy, you know, like, five months before you started dating her. People call you like a cuck. It's like an insane obsession. Oh, okay. But the, I mean, like, I'm, uh, I'd say I have a decently high sex drive. I like to fuck around. Obviously, I've got a lot of access being a YouTuber guy.

Um, and if I date somebody, want to access. Yeah. People slamming your deems. Yeah, of course. You guys, I'm sure, right? Um, but the, um, yeah, so like if I want to sleep around, I imagine if I'm to date somebody, they're probably going to be sleeping around too.

And, yeah, because I don't think I could ever do. I know that in some of the communities people advocate with these, like one, open, one-sided, open-ended relationships, which just seems, I don't believe any of those actually work. I don't think they're even real. I think the girls are always fucking around. The guys are just naive. Right. I thought, I was looking at from the wrong perspective. I had a wrong impression. I thought you, like,

watch your... No, yeah, well, because that's a meme, because if you're like, nowadays, there's no such things like an open or whatever the fuck, people just all, like, call it all cuckoldry. Right, right, yeah. Yeah, we had some experience in Illinois. Now it's in Marine Corps? Oh, this guy, like... What's that? Well, I got it here now. What's the experience?

I'll tell you. So I was a horny bastard when I was like 20, right? So I lived in Orange County, California. Okay. And it was the Orange County Register of the paper and had an adult classified six of the paper. Oh, no. It's no cell phones back in there. But it's no cell phones or anything like that.

So keep that in mind. It's like all we had was Pagers, right? So I created an online account. Well, it's not even online. The Internet would be big yet. You would call this phone number, set up an account. I forgot how you paid for it. You would pay it over the phone or whatever.

And they give you minutes. So you would go on this thing, right? They say, yeah, my name's Keith Hodge. It was 6'2, black male. I'm in shape. I got green eyes and shit. You put your profile out. And then people hear your profile, and then they respond if they're interested.

Three, four days went by. I wasn't getting no love. I was like, man, this is bullshit. Yeah, racist, huh? Yeah, racist. Racist, race people. They're not Negro. But anyway, finally, I get a message.

I got one message. So I pushed the pound to hear the message. It's a guy. I'm like, oh, fuck, a homo. Almost sexual, right? But it wasn't even that. Yeah. It was just a guy who was like in the Washington people I have sex with his wife.

Yeah. I was like. Looking for that big black bull. Yeah, that's what he's looking for. Yeah. It runs along those communities a lot. Yeah. Yeah.

So I said, you know what? This sounds kind of interesting. I said, but I'm not, man, this didn't turn up might not have to be Jeffrey Dahmer or some shit. So I said, I got a twin brother. Can I bring him along? He said the more the merrier. So, Beatt keeps going. Shut up.

I'm telling the story. So I'll pick up Kevin. We get there. There's a white couple. They're in like the 50s. And Big House. He's a lawyer. Very fluent, man.

Yeah. And she's his secretary and they work together. And we're talking. And I see a picture of two twin kids. I'm like, oh, you have twins. I was like, where are they? Oh, they're at Grandma's house tonight. You ain't got worried about them.

But long story short, we had sex with his wife and he watched. Yeah. It was crazy. Because I couldn't even get hard because he kept looking at me. Was the first time you guys had fucked in front of each other? Yeah, it was like it's weird because you're looking at each. You're looking at yourself. It feels like you're looking at yourself.

The worst. And the guy's freaking out. He's walking around stroking it. Right? And this dude, he's about this tall. Yeah. Short, fat, bald white guy. And his mushroom tip is as wide as this.

No, it wasn't that big. It was like that bottle right there. Well, it was like this. That's still pretty wide. Yeah. That's huge. Who's you going to fuck with that? And he had like, he had Frankenstein stitches on the side of it.

Like he had some kind of circuit. It was the weirdest thing. Yeah. And when I went up in. He was cock gazing, huh? Well, you couldn't help. Because I was doing it. He just busted in the room.

His fat, pop belly, wrong Jeremy looking dude. You know he's supposed to be. He's supposed to be watching you, right? Not the other way around for him. But he wasn't. We were freaking out because he's watching us. Watch. One girl, three guys in a room,

the girl's getting the least attention, huh? You guys are all. Jesus. I was. He's just along for the right, yeah. He was freaking out here. He had a freaking cock. It's the biggest cock ever saw in my life.

I thought I was old. This dude had a horse cock. Anyway, I thought, I thought, though. He probably had some enhancements. Yeah. But I-sishes are for, yeah, augmenting. Yeah. But that's what I was thinking, because I had seen online people

a sudden you're a cut, but you're not a cock, you just, this open relationship. Yeah. Yeah. So do you think that's what hurts your marriages? Oh, do you think they would really love marriages? You just did it for like... Like, I love the people, but I'm not like a marriage guy.

I'll do it if I need to. Like, if I date somebody in there from like another country, it's like, well, we have to get married otherwise we can't live together. I'm not going to do a fucking long-distance relationship. But like, if there were two people, I think the only time I'd ever like get married, like if I needed to, would probably be, like, if there was a kid involved, just because of the financial, stuff and the paperwork and the

because it's weird otherwise because it's like you're going to live with a woman and paid child support tour while you're like taking your kid to school and custody it would be weird yeah but otherwise yeah I'm not like a big yeah you don't like you don't like traditional matters because you think that um that sports contract is more in favor the female a little bit fuck no no no Jesus Christ no no absolutely not um I just um sorry I fought against a lot of people who say that no it's not even about that I just um my life is so unconventional I'm sure even for you guys right

like just the crazy online shit, the putting our content, people saying things about you, people. I don't know, they go after like family members or whatever if you start finding people. Yeah, they're, yeah, it's wild. So whatever relationships I'm in, they're probably going to look like pretty unconventional because my whole life is like very unconventional. Oh. Work like 14 hours a day, travel around the world or the United States. Yeah, everything's just really weird. Okay.

So you're straight. You're a straight guy? I'm like bisexualish. Bisexualish. Bisexualish. I don't think I ever date a guy. I'll hook up with him. What the fuck?

I don't have dated dude fucking gay What's the fuck? Even to fucking cuddle with a homie after sucking his dick How fucking nasty would that be? Holy shit Well, when I think of bisexual I think of gay

Yeah Okay, well That I'm either lying about the gay side Or I'm lying about the straight side So I guess I don't know I'll figure it out one day So you don't consider itself gay You're bisexual

Yeah, a gay light That's gay splaining Yeah because look Look, straight people have sex with straight people, right? And then you have gay people, they'll fuck anything. That's why I say when I look at bisexual. Oh, so is like gay, like bisexual? Your version of bisexual?

Yeah, when I think of a bisexual, I just think of gay because bisexual, I mean, gay people have sex with both. It's just gay. They fuck anything. Yeah. Like, if I, what does the homo sexual mean? Does that just mean one, like, you just fuck one thing? I don't know. Well, homosexual.

Listen, if that's what gay is to you, I'm gay. Yeah, like if I came home, like if my wife came home and I was down sucking a dude's cock, she would say I'm gay. Yeah. Would you say you say you're gay or that's gay? I'm gay. Okay. Yeah. I think I have most people.

I came across a couple online. This dude is straightening a trans woman. And he said he sucks her off. She has a cute little penis. It looks like a clip to doors. Okay. So the opposite of the Frankencock. Yeah.

But he doesn't consider himself gay. Okay. That's like, that's gay. Why are you gay? Do you see it differently, or? I mean, I guess you could. I don't know, I don't think about the, I guess I'm more interested in the underlying content

than the label for it. I don't really care as much. Yeah, you don't pay too much of what, straight gay, you don't really care. No, I don't really think too much about it, no. Yeah, so you, um, you ever think about marrying a guy since the women ain't working out? It's a good idea, actually.

Yeah? It would be easier, I think, because guys are just better in every way. That's why the Red Pill guy say, don't live with your girlfriend, don't live with your wife. Just fucking move in with your bros who enable you to be better and stronger. And, yeah. So you slept with a guy before?

Hooked up with a guy before, yeah. Hooked up. What you mean? Like, the sucking cock-well. Basically, yeah. Oh, yeah? Yeah, slobbing on some. Yeah.

We didn't have to break out the Vaseline, you guys. Nothing like that, thankfully. No, hey. Destiny's talking about this. Before the show started, I had this Vaseline right here. Because I can't find my tapstick. Okay. What was I going to go to?

Yeah, this whole cock sucking is. I didn't know you were bisexual. When did you determine, when did you personalize you was attracted to men? I don't know. I think it was like late 20. I was like, oh, why don't try it? Really? Sure, why not?

You only have one life, you know? Dude, you're very open-minded. Whatever, dude. I'll try anything once. Wake up, I'm going to suck a cock today. I've, like, I don't know. Like, I knew I was corrected to girls like, yeah, like very early age, you know?

Yeah, I think that's pretty normal. I felt the same, yeah. Yeah. You were the same way? Yeah. Yeah. Everybody, it's the last week to enter the win. I cheap Rubicon and $10,000 in cold hard white American cash.

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may uh led to it because porn man that'd take you down some damn dark rabbit holes we speak from experience yeah i don't know i've heard people talk about that but i've never had that like if you would go through like when i go to drug off to porn i'm looking at like low jobs are people fucking i've never gone down like the crazy oh yeah oh give it time give it time i mean i'm 35 i feel like if it was going to happen it would have happened by this time that's going to hit you when you least expect okay yeah I went down some. See, porn, that shit puts a tumor in your brain,

and then it metastasizes and goes to your dick. And it fucking, like, man, I mean, I came across the scene of a chick doing a dog. I was like, oh, this is hot. I was like, wait a minute. What the fuck is going on? Was this before or after you finished? Stop myself.

I feel like you could say the same for, like, any hobby. Like, I think that you can jerk off to porn. responsibly or you can go crazy with it but I think that's true like anything right like you look at a video game you can play a video game for an hour or whatever or you've got people who lose their entire fucking lives to games like sitting up all day you can smoke some weed every now and then to relax

or hang out with friends or you can be a guy that has to smoke every single fucking day because of anxiety or just sleep or whatever so yeah hobbies are good servants but bad masters too many people let their hobbies run their lives or whatever they get obsessed with it's true you got to take accountability and you know be responsible for your own actions

too much porn and can Yeah. You know what saved me? Christ. Yeah. He put his hands on me. I looked up and then I saw his blown out, blue eyes looking at me. He said, thou should not stroke of, thy dick of any more. I was free.

Jesus. Blonde blue eye, Jesus, huh? Blowing blue eyes. Moses left that commandment up on the mountain. That was the 11th one. God wasn't done inscribing yet. Yeah. Yeah, porn.

I had to give that up. Yeah. I think if you could do without it, it's probably good. But I think that's almost true of any kind of, like, vice-ish thing. Like, if you didn't play any games, it'd probably be better for you. If you didn't do any drugs, it'd probably better for you. If you'd never drank alcohol, it would be better for you. Yeah.

But I mean, like, balance it up. Well, it all depends on in person, really. Some people, alcohol could be done recreation, and some people that just turns into an addiction. Yeah. Yeah. It all depends on the person, really. I think the thing that frustrates me the most about talks about, like, bad vices,

like porn or drugs is people never talk about, like, how to use them responsibly. people take a zero-sum approach. So if you walk around, it's like, do you guys remember, dare? Dare, it was like the anti-drug shit. How old are you guys? Oh, yeah, Dare. Yeah, I'm old.

I remember that. Yeah, yeah, it was a big end. Yeah, I grew up until I smoked marijuana, and my fucking dick would fall off. Right. You see her the dumbest shit. Yeah, I wish people just, rather than focusing on like, don't ever do this and don't ever do that,

be like, this is what you should be aware of. And if this is happening, you probably need to slow down. Right, right. Like, yeah. Being aware of, like, science of something is unhealthy, rather than just, like, thinking some things are always good and somethings are always bad, I think it would be better. True.

Yeah, that's true. Very true. People act like if you don't masturbate to porn for like two months, you could fucking levitate or something. It's kind of... Especially the Christian Conservatives. Yeah, sometimes, yeah. You know, God's watching you when you bust your nuts.

And you know they're busted of the craziest shit, too. Because those guys are always looking at the wildest fucking shit, man. The conservatives? Oh, yeah, they always are. You go to, like, the Mormon fucking states. You look at the... That's like the highest instance of gay porn and shit. I don't know why, but...

Hey, do you remember the Tor... You know who Turning Point USA is, Yeah, Charlie Kirk. Yeah, Charlie Kirk. They had a porn star actually 10 when they events. Well, she went there. She wasn't invited, but she decided to pay the money and fly in. They found out who she was and they kicked her out.

I'm like, how did they find out who she was? Every motherfucker. It was like, wait a second. Yeah, and they kicked her out. That's the one thing. You know, I don't believe in censorship. And us being conservatives, we don't like censorship. Right.

And then they do the exact same thing. Same thing that goes for Canada. What's the kind of thing with the donors? They got donors. Yeah. And there's pictures. I mean, money is the root of all evil. Yeah.

But they call out the left when they do it, but they don't call it when they do it. I think that like the problem is that I think people sometimes take hard stances on stuff. And the stance is not, they think they've got like a really hard stance on a thing. But in reality, there's just some factual thing they disagree with. So like nobody is a free speech absolute is because as soon as you say like, oh, well, should you be able to, post-child porn. Like, it's like, okay, well, no, not that. Oh, okay.

Should you be able to, like, post somebody's address and tell people to go kill him? Oh, okay, maybe not that. Okay. So, we're not, we're not, like, ultra-free speech abstinters. There's, like, there's some boundaries we have to draw. We just need to decide what to draw the boundary. Same thing with, like, as controversial as they are, like, vaccine mandates, right? Like, I don't think anybody's actually opposed to vaccine mandates.

If there was a disease that came out that lay dormant in your body and then caused you to die instantly in two weeks, and that had, like, a 80% mortality rate and infect everybody. I think everybody, like, okay, you've got to get fucking vaccine. Which other get the vaccine. Exactly, yeah. But if you've got a disease, it doesn't really. Fact people, how much it's a cold and be like, well, if you don't get this vaccine, you can get a fucking fire. It's like, fuck you know, I don't want to do this, yeah.

But people will act like on both sides. Like, I'm pro-vaccine mandate or anti-vaccine mandate. It's like, well, not really. You just disagree about this particular one of the facts of this thing. That's what it really boiled down because I'm not anti-vaccine, but I was opposed to that vaccine. It just came out too fast. It's like, no, you got to test it. Normally when a vaccine comes out, they test it for at least a decade.

It's got to keep you from getting sick and it's got to keep you from spreading it. Yeah. It's got to make the immunity. Yeah. That's what I would think. What was your take on that COVID vaccine? I think that when people are looking at things like medicine, okay? Here something is really important to understand about medicine.

If you have a medication and then you've got like not anything happening, okay, it is always better to never take the medicine. All medicine is bad for you. Everything has to say. benefit. Yes. But the problem is people will compare taking the medicine to nothing happening, but you don't take medicine and then, or nothing happens. You're trying to compare the medicine to the disease or whatever it is you're going to get. So people will look at like a vaccine or a particular, you know, pill or whatever. And let's say, if you have this, it's this side of effect and that side of it. Okay, well, we're not comparing that to not taking it at all. Let's compare it to if you

get the thing it's supposed to prevent, well, what does that do? Right. I think that the challenging part for COVID, and a lot of people don't remember this is nobody really knew what was going to happen at the time. Yeah, he first came here. Yeah, nobody is this going to be like a 2% mortality thing or 10% mortality thing? Like nobody had an idea and it was super infectious. This thing spread faster than fucking like anything in the world in terms of like number of people that were impacted. Because it's a respiratory disease. It's not like you get it in your eyes are bleeding and everybody stays away from you.

Like nobody's getting fucking mass Ebola, okay, in the Western world. Right. Motherfuckers walking looking like the walking dead. Okay. Get this guy the fuck away from you. You can see him coming. Yeah, exactly. Why isn't some guy comes up to you and, you know, he's got like a snowballed his nose.

This guy might be infecting 30 people. You have no fucking idea. Yeah. So I think that, yeah, I mean, at the time, I could definitely understand the fear. You're trying to stay ahead of the unknown because you don't know exactly how things are going to play out. So in that sense, like, I mean, it's hard to know what side to fall on. Like for this particular virus, even though a lot of people died and there was a lot of congestion in the healthcare system, it wasn't as bad as it could have been. But like there's another world where, you know, where we took the same path and it ended up being something that had like a 25 or 30 percent mortality rate.

We were like, we just like bled off like 50 to 100 million people in this country and then the worldwide stuff. So, yeah, it's hard. Yeah. When you evaluate things, you have to be able to go back and then do it prospectively. Like, well, what did we know at the time? Rather than look back, it's like, okay, well, this is what we know now. And so this is what we should have done with what we know now. And it's like, well, nothing, unfortunately works that way in mind.

Yeah, yeah, that's just with that vaccine, when it first came, I just like, yeah, it keeps you from getting sick. And it keeps you from spreading it. And then I think it first started in Israel, they were the first to, like, fully vaccinate their population. And then they were still getting sick. And I was like, wait a minute. Then they changed the move to go post as well. you can still get sick and you can still transmit it, but you're less likely to die from it. I'm like, what am I supposed to believe?

Yeah. Like they moved the goalpost at the end. And that's like, I don't think that vaccine personally, anecdotally, I don't think it was very effective. I mean, playing Monday morning quarterback, I think we should have just took care of the elderly, people, comorbidities, but I don't think they should have been forced for anyone. I think it's up to the person's choice. I mean, we give women a right to choose when it comes to pregnancy. Why don't we give them a right to choose when it comes to a vaccine?

Well, for the right to choose for the pregnancy is because she can't make me pregnant. A woman was walking around saying some shit and all of a sudden people around who are getting pregnant, then we'd probably have a lot more of a different feeling about it, right? But a pregnancy is like your body, your thing. Yeah, but that vaccine did not keep you from infecting other people. Yeah. So I think the- It had the same efficacy of a flu shot.

Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, flu shots help. It's not perfect, but I mean, it helps. The initial vaccines were really effective for the first and then the delta, but then after that they started to fall off pretty significantly because of how mutated the virus was getting. I think the goal of the vaccine initially, and if you go back and you read all the actual medical literature, it said this,

but the public health messaging was messed up. The goal was twofold. One was to prevent you from getting sick, and then the other was hopefully, well, no, that was the goal. The goal was to prevent you for getting sick. Now, a byproduct of not getting sick is that you hopefully don't spread as much

because you're not getting the, you're not contracting the virus, and then, yeah, that's like a side effect that you're looking for. A lot of things, just a lot of it comes down to just information about diseases that people aren't aware of. So you can have like a virus just because you get infected doesn't mean you necessarily get sick. Like a virus and a disease are technically in the literature, there are two different things.

Like HIV and AIDS, right? You can have HIV now your whole life and never develop AIDS because of the medical treatment and everything. For COVID, you've got the virus, SARS-CoV-2, right? You can get the virus, but if you've had like a prior infection or if you've got a vaccine, ideally you get the virus and it kind of like, you know, fucks around a little bit, but then it dies before you actually get the disease and you get sick. Then if you're not sick, you're not coughing, you're not spreading as much. but the spreading of the disease is not something that is usually tested for in vaccines. Like even for like polio and all these other vaccines, when you get them, you can still get the virus.

But like your immune system will kill it before you actually like develop the full blown sickness. I understand your point of view. I think it's, I think when it came to a media. He got politicized. He got politicized. And then you have journalists that, you know, a majority of the, well, a lot of, I wouldn't say the majority. A lot of the money they were receiving, you know, from ads and things of that nature. It's a huge conflict of venture.

because these people who developed this vaccine made a lot of billionaires. But I can't go back to the empirical research where it actually saved people's lives. Sure. This is the thing that I wish it would happen. It's so hard. Is it sometimes people will fuck up or say something dumb. But then instead of like critically evaluating what's going on, people will just like jump to the other opinion. And then they don't do as much critical evaluation there, right?

Like let's say I wanted to sell you like TRT and I come up here and I tell you that, you know, creatine causes baldness, right? there's a common claim I imagine you're probably going to look at me like, okay, well, yeah, you're selling this. Of course you want me to think this

about the most studied fucking supplement of all time and you're going to tell me that it causes baldness or whatever. I don't know what you guys think about that. But I feel like, yeah, people will look at the vaccine and they'll go, okay, well, like, there were just so many things that bother me. People say, I don't trust the vaccine,

it was pushed through too quickly, whatever. But monoclonal antibodies, people loved those. That was an experimental treatment and never got fully approved. It was way more expensive, but because that was like the more popular treatment, people would shun the vaccines, which I think now,

in retrospect, I don't know how much want to go over it, but like, they're pretty safe. Like, there wasn't the mass death event that everybody thought there was. Like, in all the communities, people got vaccinated, they were less likely to go visit the hospital. Like, you see more deaths in, like, communities that weren't vaccinated. And you look at the monoclonal antibodies, and those completely fell out. They just weren't that effective. So you think it was, that the vaccine was a good thing?

Yeah, for sure. And I think the saddest thing, too, is that especially, and I feel so fucking crazy, because I'm always, like, the progressive, like, far left guy. I am a big capitalist, and I appreciate, like, businesses and everything there. I feel like the sad thing for conservatives is I think the vaccine, in my opinion, like represented like conservatism like almost at its best because you had Donald Trump, who was a conservative leader who like did the whole warp speed thing to try to like pre-buy and incentivize these companies. You had our large businesses that were working internationally with, you know, like biotech in Germany,

you know, the manufacturer of the NLP's in, I think in Denmark or whatever. Like so it's capitalism. It's the United States like being a global power. It's the president like trying to incentivize something and push it through. It's like all this research from around the world creating like a vaccine in like record time. I feel like there's a lot of good accomplishments there that as Americans, we could have been proud of

but it's like so... Trump loves the vaccine. Yeah, of course. He wants to take credit for it because he warspeated. Yeah. But I feel like because we're so like politically divided. We can't like every single fucking issue that comes out today is fucking political.

Like if you go to the gym, it's because you're fucking mega conservative. Like that's like a conservative thing now. Or like if a boat fucking crashes into a bridge, it's because some Mossad fucking agent did it to distract from fucking Israel. Or there's a fucking fire in Hawaii. In the fucking hottest place. It's because, like, Jewish space lasers are trying to drive up property costs for Oprah Winfee or whatever.

Yeah, it's like, Jesus. Yeah. Like, nothing can happen anymore without it being some crazy fucking conspiracy. Personally, I've had, like, people close to me that was, like, damaged by that vaccine. Like, yeah. My friend's legs turned purple. They look like sweet potatoes. He can't walk.

And then I knew when I bought this car, right when the vaccine came out, the finance guy, I was doing my paperwork. And he was telling me, he was, like, warning me, like, don't take that vaccine. like why? It's supposed to be great. He's like, well, my daughter took that vaccine. And the only reason why she took the vaccine, she went to go to Europe for a vacation. COVID messed up everything.

So she went in and had to take the vaccine so she could go. Two weeks after she took the vaccine, she got a blood clot in her lungs and she died. Yeah. The biggest red flag for me, she's 22 years old. Yeah, about that vaccine was, it was forcing on people who had already contracted the virus,

survived it, and he still was making people. And they were, they were forcing on people who were in great health. We all know, I think, what was it? 70, 80% of the people died was people over 65, and they had something wrong with them. They already had one foot in the grave. Well, careful, because when you say something wrong with them,

like obesity is a comorbidity of, which is already like 70% of regents. Like 70% of people, I think it was even high, maybe 80% of the people died from. It might even be 90% that when they died from COVID, there was over 65, or they had one foot in a grave. They were obese. They had heart problems or something. But it was forced on healthy people. And I was like, one of my friends, that girl, they died at 22.

That's why I think that vaccine was garbage. Do you know anybody that died of COVID? Yeah, my family members on my wife's side. How many? Three. Jesus. Yeah, three. So when you think of like you've got vaccine injury, did you know anybody that died of or had a vaccine injury?

I know of two people. I didn't know him personally. Okay. Well, Mike? Yeah, yeah. I can't count him. You already counted him. Okay.

But two other people. Yeah. So that's interesting that that doesn't factor in sometimes. Like somebody's like, oh, yeah, like I knew this guy or I knew a guy or a guy who had a vaccine injured. Like, oh, do you know anybody who died of COVID? And like, yeah, I've got like three family members of it. Yeah, I know three people have died. Yeah, but they were like the two that I know in my family that died, they were big people.

They were obese. They were not healthy people. Sure. But I mean, like, they still died. They got vaccinated and everything and he still died. Yeah. And I look at like the vaccine injuries. My friend, he's very young.

That person who was at the dealership. She was a healthy young woman. She was supposed to take it back. vaccination or she couldn't, she couldn't travel. I have a problem with that person. Like, like, I think it was a big cover up. Like, I mean, when COVID first hit, they was cracking the deaths by the hour. I mean, up to date all across America. You could, you know how many people died in America. Why didn't they track the deaths so the people was getting vaccinated who still died from COVID, who took the vaccine? They didn't track that. I remember when Australia first started doing the vaccine with their citizens, they were come out saying, we had eight people died today, six of them were vaccinated. They did that for a couple of days and didn't they. They did that for a couple of days. And didn't they. stopped. What do you think if it was a cover-up, like what, how, why?

Money. I'm trying to think like, let's say, money. Yeah, but like, wouldn't it, doesn't it hurt the economy and everything more to have like lockdowns

and vaccines and everything than just. I think there was a wrong decision. You can't hide from the virus. What I'm saying, like, let's like, we're talking like all the,

so here's something that's always interesting me. People say things like Lockheed Martin or Boeing, like the military industrial complex they like run the country, okay? If you only look these companies up,

um, these companies are worth, from like $10 to $100 billion. Okay, decent size companies. But then I'm thinking like, well, if we're like running the economy, why would the military industrial complex do things that puts the entire economy like on pause that hurts everybody? So like wars or conflict or whatever,

why wouldn't it be the people that own like fucking Apple and Facebook? Because these companies are worth like Apple alone is worth like every fucking private military contract or combined. Like wouldn't they be the ones in control the economy? Wouldn't it be more like the U.S.? Like I want to go to war with that? And like Lockheed and Boeing and Raytheon, these guys are like,

yeah, let's go. And then, like, Apple is like, we're not doing that. Actually, fuck you. Or I will hire an actual Haitian death squad to kill you. I think it's a different dynamic. I think the reason why that information is not allowed to come out, who's going to put that information out there? Donald Trump? It's going to be the media.

The media is being paid hundreds of millions of dollars to push this vaccine. Brought to you by Pfizer. If they're going to come out and criticize the vaccine, they're hurting their advertisers. There's no way Fox News, CNN. left or right going to come out and criticize that vaccine because you're biting the hand to feed you. Yeah. Even if I post stuff on Instagram or

YouTube, I was getting censored. I was getting community guidelines strike on YouTube. You were not allowed to criticize that vaccine. That's why I think it's a cover-up. I believe in capitalism too, but I don't consider that capitalism. I consider that crony capitalism. Do you think why wouldn't it be that

other countries would call us out? Like, why wouldn't Russia or China be like we think that that vaccine was a giant cover-up. Why wouldn't they say something if it was, wouldn't it be in their interest to kind of expose us on it? I will, but we're not on the best of terms. Like, we can't even agree on that very same logic that you're using amongst ourselves here

in the United States. That's not how difficult it would be between us and Russia or other countries. Yeah, I don't mean on good terms. I mean, like, as a way to attack us. Like, why wouldn't Putin be like, the United States is clearly corrupt and we can see that because look at the vaccine that they gave their people? I can only really speak to what our own media. Our media is here to

keep the public apprised of what's going on. I did not see one story, whether it was left wing or right wing, criticized that vaccine. Yeah. Nobody spoke out. And it's because that's the biggest advertising. They were advertising so much in enriching these networks so much.

It created nine billionaires on the back end on the pharmaceutical companies. Yeah. So I can only imagine how much Fox News CNN was getting paid. Yeah. And then again, like I said, even if I spoke out. Yeah. Censored. What's that doctor that went on Joe Rogan?

Censored. He was a doctor. Yeah, censored. I mean, you were not allowed to criticize that vaccine. Look at CNN and look at Fox. We know they have an agenda. They lie to us all the time. We know we probably get maybe an ounce of the truth.

They'd spend everything to fit their narrative. They never, like our politicians and our media, they don't even serve us anymore. They serve their own interests. Do you think it's possible there's maybe people are trying to do their best, but they fuck up sometimes? Yeah, definitely. I guess the interesting thing for me is just like as a like a finance guy sometimes like I just look at the numbers and I just don't feel like in the pharmaceutical

world there's just not enough money to control all the media it's just not there's just like compared to like our like the tech world there's so much more money there and then like when I look at you know all the vaccines that came out and the MRNA ones and I'm thinking like okay well let's say these MRNA vaccines came out and they really is a big cover up like why wouldn't like Johnson and Johnson come out and say like hey fuck you because other companies try to create MRI vaccines and they fill why wouldn't these other capitalist countries or companies in the US be like hey those vaccines don't work that's bullshit. Or like an enemy of the U.S., like Iran or Russia or China,

be like, yeah. If that's true, it just shows how corrupt America is. It shows how corrupt pharmaceutical companies are. They're so corrupt that they're willing to lose money being non-competitive. I think they lose money. I think they lose money if the truth comes out. That's why I don't think the truth comes out.

Yeah. I mean, look how, I watched this documentary. It was about how the pharmaceutical company got everybody addicted and doped up on our. Sentinel? Yeah. I mean, these, these, these pharmaceutical companies,

some of the worst evil amongst us, and nobody's willing to call them out for it. I feel like people call them out. I just feel like the problem is just a bit more complicated than it seems. Even for like drug addictions on, on like, fentanyl or stuff like that, like if you go to the hospital, like a lot of drug addiction happens because you go to the hospital for a pain problem

and then you come out of the hospital and now you end up getting addicted to whatever substance they gave you. But like looking at, I've got doctor friends or whatever, like listening to them talk, you get a patient that will come. come in and the patient will say, hey, I've got, you know, hypertension. I look at my blood pressure, like, yeah.

Now, people will look at doctors and they'll go, you guys are just here to push pills. You're just going to try to give the guy a pill, send him on his way. Like, fuck you, it's not healthy, blah, blah, blah. But from the doctor's perspective, like, I mean, you guys definitely know this better than the average person. You tell a person, oh, well, you need to eat healthy and exercise. What's the uptake on that? Less than 1%. Right, right?

Just give me a peel. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So as a doctor, like, you're there to treat whatever the illness is. And oftentimes it's, I mean, as a doctor, your only weapon is medication. Now, if you've ever been to a doctor office before, they always tell you on the way out. They say, oh, yeah, make sure that you continue to eat healthy and exercise, but nobody actually fucking does it. And then, so now you're a physician, and now you're in this fucked spot where it's like, okay, well, this guy came in, he's hypertensive.

I can't send him out of the office without prescribing something because now if he's a heart attack, he's going to come back and sue me for not doing anything. So then you give him a pill, and then this guy goes off, and then, you know, he gets fatter and fatter and his family complains, and then he dies. And now his kids are online saying, like, my dad had all these issues with obesity and all the doctor, he was him a fucking. pill and then cinema was way and wait until he fucking died and that's bullshit and it's like what the fuck you're supposed to do as a doctor like fuck me you know yeah yeah i think there are bad actors i'm sure there definitely are um like there have been drugs that have been okayed um i always fucking forget it uh there was one that was okayed in europe that didn't get okay in the u.s was it them umaldahide where like babies were being

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Trans rights. What trans rights means is that if you don't have people investing money into surgeries and everything, you're never, ever, ever going to see another Franken dig again in your life. Because I bet that dick was the beneficiary of a whole bunch of research. That's a lot of research. That's a lot of that. So is he, apparently on two sides. The trans rights.

That conversation is also super political. Yeah. Yeah. On like a very basic, like on the very, very, very, very fundamental, like scientific, biological, psychological side of it. It seems like there are some people that for whatever reason their brains seem to be

sex differently in their bodies and in all the therapeutizing, therapeutic, whatever the fuck, and trying to get people therapy and trying to give people medication. And I'm thinking some truth to that. Yeah. And it seems like this.

People are not doing this shit for nothing. Sure, yeah. Well, I don't know now, but generally in the past. You're doing it for shits and giggles, well, like the 85% of trans people that are now like non-binary psychology, that's a separate thing. But for like trans people,

we're actually trans people, it seems like there's an issue there and it seems like of all the ways to treat them, you can either change the mind or change the body and change the mind hasn't seemed to work. So then you help them change the body basically. Don't seem like any of this shit's working. Well, I mean like the changing the body works for like those types of treatments work. But the issue is that now because it's again, it's such a political issue, now there's like trans is more like an aesthetic than.

And I don't think it needs to be political. This is the thing. If you're 18 and over, I'm totally fine. Yeah. But I just disagree with letting little kids as young as five, six, seven. when they go through these surgeries, I don't agree that it should be taught to kids. And I think that would be coming sense.

Maybe. I'd be really careful with that. So I think that there's a couple things. So one, kids aren't generally getting surgeries. That's pretty extreme. They're taking drugs to prevent their... Yeah, they might be doing like peer media blockers or whatever. But that's extreme too.

Yeah, it can be. The thing that I would say is that whatever the research is pointing at, that's no research on this. There's a lot of research. It's not long term yet. And it's still like, it's very controversial. I think that research at this point is tenuous. Yeah, it probably is, for sure. But like, if there's research on a particular thing,

I think that that's a choice that should be left between the parents, the doctors, and the child. But shouldn't the government protect kids from sick parents? It should, when reasonable. But like, the problem is, and this is a hard one, because in America, we have to have, we have to tolerate people here that we really disagree with. Sometimes I think people in America think that, like, tolerating differences in opinion, is like, well, you know, I want Bernie Sanders, but this guy likes Biden, so I guess we get along.

Or like, oh, like, I want Donald Trump for two terms or this guy wants Donald Trump for a third term. And I think that's weird. And like, that's like the diverse. But really, it might be as different as like, yeah, like I think that my kid at 14-year-olds should be in puberty blockers and you don't think that should be even allowed. But I think in the U.S., like in my mind, I've got a 13-year-old son. I'm just trying to think of like if my kid had a medical problem when he was 14 or 15 and there was treatment that might have been available and I couldn't pursue it. because, you know, Desanters or somebody had, like, outlawed it. Yeah. And if my kid ended up, you know, either dying or killing himself when he was 16 or 17, 17,

I think I would lose my fucking mind on that. Now, I understand that there are definitely parents that can be abusive of children, and that's disgusting, too. But, like, the idea that you would block off, like, that's the same argument that people use for firearms. I like, fuck you. Okay, fuck you. Just because John fucks around with his gun and kills himself or has a kid killed. Doesn't mean, you can take my shit.

But that's the argument that people use for trans surgeries. Like, well, some parents are sick. And I was like, okay, well, some parents, like, rape their kids. I'm not going to chop my dick off because you think I might like, what the fuck? No, that's crazy. Yeah. I think that I've heard that before that argument, well, from trans kids' sexuality with their gender saves lives. But I think that's an extreme way to look at it because, you know, mutilating or I wouldn't say mutilating, removing body parts and blocking their puberty, I think that's, that doesn't save lives.

It's altering your life. Well, you to go out and say they're just going to save that life. It's just you're speaking metaphorically, and it's a bit extreme. Yeah, I mean. Nothing actually saves the kid's life. Well, you're putting them in a position where they're less likely to, I guess, tell themselves, right? Really?

But does it prevent them from committing suicide? I mean, that's what the research would. You'd have to look to that. There's countless videos of people that regret that went through that process to transition. I've seen plenty of stories where people have transitioned got to surveys and they commit suicide. I've seen a guy transition, became a girl, whatever, looks just like a girl. totally bang that if it was actual girl but she ended up killing herself

sure but I mean like there's a lot of stories on the other side as well like kids that weren't able to transition or kids that never fell right in their body and ended up kill themselves you know what I think the problem is we try to rationalize it we try to rationalize it I don't think you should rationalize anything when it comes to a child I think they should make that ultimate decision when the 18 I could care less of a man was where I dress

I believe in frame of I believe in the Constitution I believe in pursuit of happiness but when you push that on the kid when that kid more often than not has been taught that or indoctrinated. Yeah. Because we came across this trans family. And the guy wants to be a woman

and the woman wants to be a man. They have a child. Right. And the male, the biological male who's living in his life as a woman is trying to breastfeed the child. Watch his video. I'm really thankful. For a honor, for creating.

our family. Oh, I have put it on here. The baby has been able to latch, but I've not been able to produce any milk. It's okay, because we're going to supplement the feeding with formula so that my baby's still getting the nutrients that they need, but I'm still feeling hopeful. I appreciate you so much for all your work.

I appreciate you also, baby. I'm kind of done without you. Okay, you motherfuckers need to give me a warning. You can start putting shit like this on the screen. Jesus fucking Christ, right? I'm not ready for that. My God. That's, uh...

See, this is the thing. But hold on, wait, to be clear, these are fucking weirdos. Okay. These are not like... Yeah. Like, because we can find fucking weirdos from every... My background is pro gaming. You better believe there's a lot of fucking weirdos in my background, right?

Or, like, for religious people. You've got people that let their kids die because they don't believe in, like, surgery or blood blood transfusion or whatever, right? But you wouldn't use that argument to say, all religion should be banned. you ask. Right. Like, I agree there are fucking weirdos. I'm just saying that, like, in my, like, right now we're talking about trans stuff,

but before it might have been, like, medication, right? Like, does a child need to be on an amphetamine or a stimulator? Or is a child need to be on an SSRI or whatever? And it's like, maybe they do, maybe they don't. But I think you need, when you're getting in between, like, a parent and a doctor about their kid, that's just, in my world, that's like the scary. You better have a solid, fucking. Personally, personally, I think the doctor's, everybody needs to be like that.

I mean, when you become a doctor? I mean, what you do should be based on science. There's not enough research with this. Yeah. I think this is just Frankenstein doctors trying to make a buck. The only reason why we get to that video we got right there is because the weirdos, as you call them, they would do anything to affirm their fake reality. That's why they're pushing this on kids.

It's to affirm these wackos. Yeah. I think the majority of the kids that wants to, you know, go through these procedures because they're being doctored. And those parents are trying to affirm their own lifestyle. Because you imagine when this kid grows up, what do you think is going to have? You think that kid's going to be straight? More likely it's going to be non-binary. Possibly, maybe, yeah.

And I mean, like, yeah, these people are definitely weird. But, like, I mean, like, how many trans people came from ordinary, well-adjusted families? How many gay people came from ordinary well-adjusted families where the parents have? Right. And it's like the best thing for, like, gay acceptance too now, right? Like your kid comes up to you and he's like, I need to tell you something. You're like, oh, fuck. And your kid's like, I'm gay?

You're like, oh, thank God. You're not non-barnatory, right? Oh, he's just gay, okay. This clip that I showed you, that was in a documentary on TLC. Sure. And irrational society was people would be locked up and their kid would be taken away. Maybe. But people would say that shit about some religious stuff too.

You've got to be careful for that, right? But that's crazy. No, no. That is crazy. That's why I say we politicize things. We shouldn't look at things politically. It's either right or it's wrong. Yeah, but again, like, we're loading that, like, making it so obvious.

Like, you talk about, like, cutting off genitals and stuff. Like, we still, like, circumcised kids in the United States. That's good. That's a different from chopping it all. Real weird, though. Why are you chopping parts of kids' dicks off? Yeah, I mean, I'm not certain stuff. Sure, but I'm just saying that's fucking weird, right?

Yeah. It's because you want the little boy's dick to look like the dad's dick, and that's really it, right? That's kind of fucking weird. Yeah, I've met my mom. Not as weird as chop it at all. Might not be as weird, but it's still pretty fucking weird. And you can have complications that mean they have to chop it off, right? That was that one, there was a famous case study for a guy that they tried to make him a girl because at birth, they had, I think, a complication from a circumcision, so they ended up having to take the whole dick.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not saying it's the same thing. I'm just saying that sometimes we think, like, we should only do what's clearly right or clearly wrong. And it's like, I mean, you've got other weird shit in society. I don't know. You don't think you're playing Russian roulette with the child's life? You might, but the argument is you're already playing Russian roulette with the child's life

because of these kids that do grow up trans and can't find any help of treatment and then they offer themselves. I look like this. When we have enough information on it. Like right now, I'll like proceed with caution. I don't think anybody should be doing this until they're 18. But the parents that's proceed with this type of life-authoring medication and affirming And that's right.

Their kid's lifestyle. I think when the data comes out, it's going to really hurt the gay community. Maybe. But, I mean, if the data comes out and it doesn't work, it's not helping. Then we stop it. You walk it back. Yeah. But, damn, we sacrifice a lot of kids.

I don't think there's that many. Like, for surgeries and stuff, it's not, I don't think it's, that's incredibly rare. Yeah, I'm a friend believer, sexuality is taught. Like, the majority of us are straight because I had straight parents. Yeah. If I grew up and I had two gay parents, I would think the majority of society would be gay. Yeah. I think it's taught.

I don't know if that's true or not. Yeah. I think the majority of society is straight because they have straight. I think it would be some outliers. Like you grew up a conservative family, right? Yep, super Catholic, yeah. Yeah, you're outlier. You're bisexual.

Gay, you know. You know, there's going to be outliers. Gay people raising a child. There's going to be some outliers. You're going to be straight. But I think it will be a huge increase in the gay population. Yeah, be the majority at that point. Yeah.

If everybody was raised to be gay. Yeah. Because that's how you were raised to be straight. But like you say, you're an outlaw. I think majority of society would be gay. I just don't know if there's like that research yet that shows that like if a kid is raised a certain way, it like correlates more with being gay. I think they've been trying to find that a lot because it's really hard to figure out where it comes from.

But I don't think we have a good understanding of work. Let me paint a picture for you. Okay. You grow up, you got two gay dads. Yeah. Say you adopted. Say they're two black men, right? Two gay black men adopt you, right?

Make a white man. Huh? Make a white man. I want to make the story crazy. two black men, right? Buff is hell, biggest shit. Both from 6'3, just rippling muscle.

And every morning you wake up, you're like, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, take it. Oh, yeah, baby, dad, I'm fin the cone. You hear that every morning. It's going to normalize it in your brain. Yeah. So the first thing you do when you hit pit, man, I want to get fucked like my dad.

Because you being taught that. You know? Maybe, I don't know. I don't think the studies are out there yet for it, but who knows? Well, you say it's not enough studies out there for trains kids. Like me having a father and a mom. And just like just my dad kissing my mom.

That embed stuff into my brain. It teaches me certain things, I think. Yeah, yeah. But if I didn't have that and I had two gay dads and I seen them kissing. Yeah. And stuff. And I'm like, oh, man. You know what I mean?

I just. I understand what you're saying. You can keep saying the same story. I just don't know if there's actually like the, I don't know if there's anything to support that other than it sounds. So you don't think people can be groomed? What do you mean by groomed? Like a pedophile when they do something to a kid. A lot of times a kid grow up and do that same thing to other kids when they grow up.

Pedophiles. I think it's possible. But like the majority of people that abuse kids aren't even pedophiles, like 10% I think. I'm just talking about pedophil. It's possible. I don't know. It's possible. I think that sexuality is really complicated.

And I don't think we have any good answers for like where gayness and there's a psychological side to it. There's an environmental side to it. Yeah, biological. Yeah. That's hard to know. Like, yeah, I just don't think there's any strong research that points to one side or another. Yeah, the thing about trans kids, get back on that. And it's like, man, we don't let kids smoke.

We don't let boat, drive a car. And for them to have an ability to even have an influence over their parents to have such a life altering it. Because you can't go back after that. Well, I mean, ideally, if you do puberty blockers, you can, right? They say you can reverse it. But Jackson went through something like that. That's why he has a high big force. A lot of operas singers do it too.

It's for the men. I forget what they call it. So their voice will be high pitch like a picture like a woman. You don't. Some things you don't go back. Like females who jump on testosterone, they start growing birds and the voice to get real deep. Once you get up at testosterone, can't change that. Bodybuilding women, that voice can't.

Yeah. It's going to stay raspy. Some of these things that. I mean, if you do hormones depending on, yeah, the female to male one, there are things that change. Yeah, because when you have testosterone and the cartilage that kids in your whatever the cause of the atoms have to come out when you get rid of the testosterone that doesn't go away so your voice is always so so do you think trans women should be able to breastfeed their kids no there's actual just fucking milk come out they call it well they call it

but we all know it's sweat pus and soap what to listen whatever they whatever they say it is in the fucking beaker okay when walter white tested whatever fucking says what they want to do it i think it's like it like if she takes those drugs and start producing that um milk or whatever they want to to call it do you think they should breastfeed their kid with that listen i don't know Take a stance, man. I don't know. Those two guys were weird for a whole bunch of reasons

who had nothing to do with being fucking trans. Those are weird fucking people. No, those are straight. Those are straight up trans. Yeah. That is the trans community that right down in that chair.

Look, this is my position. I'm all about people living life how they want to live. It's got to be based in reality. But it's got to be based reality. Well, but I mean, you say that, but then like every fucking atheist is going to say,

what about all the religious people that do all the weird shit with their kids? Man, let's stick to the trans. I'm just saying you're based in reality. Yeah. got like atheists versus religious people. That's like one of the fundamental disagreements between fucking, yeah. But we're talking about trans kids.

So do you think they should be allowed to breastfeed? I think that we should follow the science. If the science is one thing if you want to do it, I mean, it's their choice, is their families that could do it. If there's not strong supporting evidence, then it should be experimental. So only okayed in like extreme circumstances. And if the evidence is pointing strongly against it, then you don't let them do it because it'd be harmful to the children.

I think it's... But if you don't have evidence? If you did, like they said, well, if you've got like exploratory stuff, then it's experimental and you like greenlight it for extreme cases. Like if you've got like a parent or if you've got somebody dying of like some cancer and they're like, listen, you know, we can do chemo. We can do, you know, radiology or whatever. You got like two months. But there's this other thing.

We could try it. You know, no guarantee. There's like clinical trials or whatever. You'd like try it that way. Another trials, you see how they work. But yeah, I mean, that's all you do. Yeah. I think you should ban that shit.

I think those parents. You need to banish. They go to jail. For a third long time. They take the kid, right? Take the kid. have someone adopted put them in the foster care.

Those two people that we just saw they shouldn't be nowhere near kids. Because let me tell you, let me explain to you. This is probably going to make you uncomfortable. Well, it probably won't because you're gay. But for me, my nipple is an erogenous zone. Right. Okay.

Like when your nipple, you're one of them? Both of them. Okay. Right. When my wife touched it, I get a hard erection. Me too. Right. Hard erection.

My nuts get tight. My nuts like two tennis balls sitting together. Yeah. That's an erogynastown. Yeah, so... You don't think women don't feel the same way? Yeah, women feel the same thing. I just want to...

But say, women... Hey, shut up. This is just anecdotal, but that's an erogenous Jones for a lot of people, men and women. And this dude's getting sucked off. Well, well, he's trying to... I mean, aren't women getting sucked off

when they're breastfeeding their kids? It serves the purpose. It's got milking. Sure. That's why women can do it. Her nose serves no purpose. Yeah, that's weird. I agree.

There's no milk coming out. That's pretty fucking weird. I agree with that, yeah. 100%. Yeah, my wife told me when she was breastfeeding, she said it hurts. The kid laxed it on.

It's like a little fucking rabbit just bought to bite your fucking nip off. So it's nothing. That dude's getting sucked. That's a dude, there's no nipple. It's just sick. This shit needs to be banned. This is my mental test.

This is what I do when I think about shit like this, okay? If you're in power and you're saying, I want to prevent kids from X, Y, Z, the government needs to have the power to make this illegal. What I try to think of is, okay, let's say that the guys that I don't like are in office and they have the same power, what would they take from me?

And if I feel like I stand to lose more than I'd gain otherwise by having that power, then I'd say, well, fuck that. So the only thing that scares me about saying, like, oh, well, if I'm this trans, you're going to ban this and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

If I were religious, I'd be worried about all the parents that are like, well, I think taking, you talk about doctrine, indoctrination earlier, I think confirmation is indoctrination. I think that taking kids to church and making them, you know, listening to people speaking in tons,

that's indoctrination. I think that Mormonism and all this crazy shit, I think that's indoctrination, that should be illegal. And if you guys want to ban the queer books or whatever the fuck from school, we should ban bibles and shit as well. So it's like, uh, fuck it. I don't think.

Yeah, it's just hard. This is why I say for the trans shit. There's nothing. There's nothing unique about the trans stuff. You just look at a scientific way compared to any. No, you shouldn't be. You look at the science and you just follow the research. Right now it looks like, yeah, that's it.

They're using Frankenstein science. Like society as a whole thing to lose absolutely nothing from trans women risk for you. We have nothing to gain, nothing to gain. all sure I mean that might be a thing that's too far right yeah that might be yeah that's fine

but like to lose all of it too far right you yeah but I think it's weird like for the trans stuff it's like such a minority problem but like how many percentages of American men

get their dicks like you know cleaned up when they were fucking newborn that's fucking weird but that's like a totally normal thing and that's impacting what half of American men or whatever or like fucking dick cut circumcision

I'm all for circumcision I'm not for that you can't possibly be present that's wild because that's absolutely no medical anything. You know, well, circumccited because I'm not circumcised.

And if you don't roll it back, you're going to get a bunch of dick cheese under there. So that's why they cut all the skin off, so you won't have all that dick cheese. Yeah, and if I chop your fucking feet off of the ankles, you probably want to have smelly shoes. I mean, learn to fucking clean yourself. What the fuck? You don't take a fucking shower?

No, it's the... Who's talking about... I'm talking about dicks. I know, what I'm saying. You fucking clean your dick. Yeah. If you chop anything off the fucking body, it's not going to get dirty. How many people don't clean behind their ears. We're not lobbing people's

fucking ears off so they got fucking clean hole. No, it's not. You're chopping parts of the dicks off. How you sit here defending dick chopping? That's wild to me. They're not chopping the dick off. They're chopping up part of the dick. Well, they're just trying to keep the dick cheese from growing, man. Because I get dick cheese if I don't roll back. If somebody

gave you a fucking hoodie with the hood fucking removed, it wouldn't be okay. Dicks kind of with four skins for a reason, okay? Anyway. I totally agree. Thank you. I'm glad I still got my poor skin. So you should totally get little kids chopping a off right? Only the top part.

Bottom surgery for under 18 is, I don't think that happens in the U.S. and no, I don't think I'd ever be okay. That's a really, really extreme. Yeah, I don't think bottom surgery for under 18, but I don't think anybody really supports that. That's like the most extreme people. So you're like with the dick skin, the circumcision.

So you'll say, hey, hey, hey, shut up. Hey, what, like, since we're on a transgender thing, what is a woman to you? What, fuck, that's a really complicated question. Man, come on. That's an insanely fucking complicated question. Here's, okay, without diving too deep in all those dumbass shit, okay?

Listen, okay? Jesus Christ, okay? Take it easy. If I tell you a thing, okay? In philosophy, there's a thing called a qualia, okay? So, like, what does it like to experience something, okay? Behind you is a red curtain. If you'd never seen the color red before, and I say, you know, there's a red curtain behind you,

I can never actually express what that qualia is to. You're not going to know unless you experience it yourself, right? So there are things that we experience, and when we have two brains, okay, I can't actually ever, I can never send you an idea. I can't do it. It's impossible because our brains are separate. So what I do is I speak a word and when I say something, I hope that you have an experience that maps onto that. So when I say like, oh, this blanket is really soft. You might think soft like, oh, like a dog or a kitty cat or a pillow. You've got other experiences that map onto it, right?

For all of the language that we use, when we say words, there's a whole bunch of associated concepts that, like, pop up when we say those words. Now, they might not map cleanly onto some universal, you know, platonistic form of a thing. So, for instance, when I say table and I tell you to define a table, you can never give me a definition that encompasses all tables and excludes all things that aren't tables, right? Do they always have four legs? Is it one of one? Is it something you can sit on or not? Like, it's really complicated. So when you say like, well, what is like a woman? Well, when you say woman, depending on the context, it lights up a whole bunch of concepts.

So a woman, you know, they tend to dress a certain way. They tend to have certain hair. They tend to exhibit certain like characteristics. They tend to have certain body parts. They tend to have certain, right? So a woman, like it really kind of depends on the circumstance, right? Like if I'm in a, let's say that I'm in school, right? And I'm like a grade schooler and somebody says, oh, a woman just walked by.

Well, in that case, you're probably speaking more to age than like genitals or whatever, right? Because it's like, oh, a woman, oh, shit, like Mrs. Whoever is coming into a closet. I think when a woman, when somebody say that, I think of tits and a vagina. Sure, maybe, but like you might meet somebody. No, not maybe. A woman walks by and someone say, oh, she's got tits and a vagina. But not, you're associating behaviors, way more. When you see somebody in a store and you identify them as a man or a woman, you're never seeing their genitals.

You have no fucking idea. You don't know if there's a dick or a pussy. I could totally look at you and I can tell you a guy. Yeah. I might have the tightest binding in the fucking world on right now hiding the 33, 32 double Ds. It's like fucking bound. You're totally a man. Sure.

But like you're making that evaluation based on probably my voice, probably my fucking beard, but maybe shape of my body. You're not actually seeing my genitals over. You know, or less no thing you are. I can tell you got a cock. Yeah. I have to wrap it around my leg twice. Yeah, you can tell. Like, female and male is not complicated,

but people overcomplicated to fit their narrative. You say, yeah. You see what I'm saying? I understand what you're saying, but even when you say people overcomplicated, like gender and how we express it is like, it is a pretty complicated phenomenon, right? But it's so complicated that you can't even define it.

That's the problem. Well, because we don't ever, because we typically don't. We just kind of like, when we use words, we don't have like strict definition. of like what a word is. And we even playfully joke about this. Like, is a hot dog a sandwich, right?

How crazy is it that sandwiches are things that everybody's spending with it? But you can't actually give like a strict definition of what a sandwich is. Or do cereal count as a soup? Well, yes or not? Or if you're in fucking Texas, just chili have beans in it, right?

People fucking fight you to the death on this shit. A hot dog is not a sandwich. Okay. Fucking hot dog. Hamburg is not a sandwich. It's a hamburger. A sandwich is just two slices of bread. A hamburger?

Wait, wait, a hamburger? Hamburger is not a sandwich? No, it's a hamburger. A sandwich. This is a sandwich. I'm going to define with a sandwiches. Okay. All right.

Hot dog. Bun. Whinie. Hot dog. Hamburger. Patty. What about a chicken sandwich? Chicken sandwich?

Chicken sandwich. Well, it's different. Now, a sandwich, typically when I think of a sandwich. Yeah. When I typically think of two slices of bread and whatever meat. Ham cheese. Ham cheese. All the works.

But they all fucking sandwiches, Kevin. It's bread and a meat. What about a patty melt? like sourdough toast. Is that a sandwich or is that a... Is it wrapped in lettuce or a bun? Hey, you see what the fuck he did? He changed the subject.

I'm just saying words are complicated. Like, when people say, people say like, oh, what is a woman? And it's like, give me a difference. Another, but like, what is a table? What is a chair? Like any word to define your... Yeah.

You're talking about... This is my definition of a woman. Yeah, go for it. This is my definition of one. Okay, go for it. A human being will female reproductive parts. Okay. Yeah.

That's what a woman is. If you, like, if you want to say that, that's fine, but our use case for it is, we don't usually identify people that way. We usually identify people the way they dress and the way they appear outwardly. We've always identified women that way. No, no, we identify people.

Based on the time. No, no, based on how they look. Yeah, yeah, they're sex. But who chooses how to look that way? Men dress a certain way because that's how men tend to dress that way. Women like things that women like to do. That's why women like to wear makeup. They like to wear dresses.

Men don't really like to wear that type of stuff. I mean, but it depends. I mean, you look at like... Like the genders choose how they want to represent themselves. They do, but we also feedback in. to each other. Like, if you look at how you, you know, take guys out of the fucking 60s and shit that were pop stars and shit, you throw them into today.

Yeah, you got some crazy shit. Or even in the 90s and 2000s, you know, rapper is wearing fucking earrings and shit, you know, in white communities, people like, my kids are going to wear a fucking earring or jewelry or whatever or like metrosexuals. Yeah. But they still knew there was men and they still knew there as well. Yeah. Michael Jackson, if he was born a day, he'd probably be trans.

Prince. He'd probably be trans. Yeah. They all, like, that one group. Molly crew. All those rock bands, they were like long hair, very feminine. Got all the bitches, though. They still knew that they were men.

Yeah. I understand what you're saying. It's so complicated. Well, it's not complicated. It's intuitive. But just because something is intuitive doesn't mean that there's not like a really sophisticated thing happening underneath. Right. Like, for instance, like you guys, oh, man, I used to watch your shit so long ago.

I was going to say you guys do like deadless. Yeah. But you don't, because you call them back snaps. You don't break my damn back. You do squats or whatever? Fuck no way. Okay, none of the gay exercise. Okay, well, fuck all that shit.

Walking, okay, is an incredibly complicated action. There's a ton of different things going on. You've got inner ear keeping balance. You've got eyes that are looking to make sure you're not veering off course. You've got like tons of muscle systems, right? But like, you don't think about it. It's intuitive. You walk and talk at the same time, even though both those things.

Like look at the Boston Dynamics robots. Like look at how many fucking millions of man hours of programming just to get a machine to fucking walk, right? It's complicated. But it's intuitive. You don't think much about it. I feel like the best evidence of like when you're thinking about like men and women or whatever is it's really funny. Regardless of how you feel, you look at like Ben Shapiro or if you look at Stephen Crowder, sometimes these people will bring up trans people and because they want to call them by their what they think they're correct pronouns is like that's a man or whatever.

When they're talking about the person though, they accidentally keep slipping into like, oh yeah, she, Dylan Mulvaney. Was that a popular trans? I don't follow his shit. Yeah. That was a trans woman or whatever. Yeah. Whenever they refer to Dylan, he's like, oh yeah, she's doing this. I mean he.

Yeah. You know, I don't like Dylan because, you know, she said this. I mean, he said. this, right? I was like, okay, well, what's happening there? Is he confusing the sexual organs of the person, or are we just, like, mapping other things on to what we do. Well, he's confused, and Dylan's confused.

I think it's just a confusing situation for everybody. They're confused, and it confused everybody else. Yeah. I'm not trying to say, by the way, also that, like, men and women don't map onto very real different, like, sexual characteristics. They clearly do, right? There are different reproductive systems, different reproductive gametes that, like,

almost always mapped onto male to male and female to female. That's almost always true. I'm just saying But in society, in common parlance, when we talk about, like, a man or a woman, there's a lot of stuff with language. It's super complicated that we don't realize it's happening when we say things. I just think women have tits and the dinners. Dues have nuts and balls and cocks. Yeah, and most of the time, that'll be true. But even if I'm a, let's say I want to be a woman.

I could just like a woman, I get all searched, I could be the baddest bitch on the block, standing on the corn, making all kinds of money. It still doesn't change the fact that I'm actually a guy. Yeah. Well, I guess the question is, so, language exists because there's some. utility, right? Like, the reason why we say words is because we get something out of it. I'm invoking some idea. I'm getting some kind of response from you. Like, that's why we have words, right? So the question, I guess, is like, what does it mean to be a man or woman in, like, a given circumstance? Because that's going to determine, like, if you go to the hospital, regardless of what the

fuck, how you identify or whatever, like, your actual biological sex is probably going to be really important depending on what you're looking at, right? You're not going to go to the hospital for a pap smear if you're a guy. Yeah, you will if you transform. But if you are, but that's what I'm saying, right? You're going to, like, the biological sex could be really important there. But like if you're, you know, let's say that you're standing on the street corner, okay, and let's say that you know, you lose all your muscle and you're the most live, new, biol, beautiful, young-looking fucking woman ever.

Sure. And let's say somebody sends a drive-by down the street and it's like, I want you to shoot every fucking woman you see. And a guy drives by and he sees you and your beautiful ornette flowery, you know, sundress. And the guy unloads on you. And you're like, oh, no, I'm not a woman. I'm a man. Well, in that case, it didn't really matter.

He identified he was a woman. He clots you. Yeah, I tricked him. Sure. Yeah. I deceived him. Maybe, yeah. But my position is this, transgender LGBTQ has confused and it's overwhelmed people with sexual identity or gender identity that nobody can give or present a honest definition of what a woman.

And because of that, now you got men going inside a female restrooms. You got men competing against females. You got men and breastfeed kids. If you don't have a definition for what a woman is, then the women, these transgender women, will affirm their gender by minimizing women. Because the only way transgender woman can affirm and be an actual woman is to minimize another woman.

Yeah, maybe. And maybe they shouldn't be competing in sports because that would be bad for a variety of reasons. But I just want to say that this thing relating to trans, like gender, sex, or whatever, like, none of this is unique. Like, we've fought over gender identity and gender expression for probably for thousands of years. Over, like, what does a man look like? What does a man do? What does a woman look like? What does a woman do? Like, these are things that, like, and we should continue to push on it and, you know, champion the things that we believe are true.

I feel like one big problem today that really sucks is kids today are getting way too much attention. So whereas, you know, in my, even when I was growing up, like, you might believe or do some dumb shit in high school and college, but like you'll grow out of it. everybody knows you will. But now with social media, now if you've got a dumb idea or whatever, you might be a worldwide famous Twitter star, TikTok star at 18 or 19. And now moving on from those ideas, it feels a lot different. And you're getting way more validation and it's going to make it harder to kind of like grow up and shed maybe some of the stuff that isn't as true, which is, I think, a huge problem. Because like people are like, and I know this is true for both of you, whether you've been it or not, we all believed and did fucking unbelievably

retarded shit when we were kids. You're never more sure of what everything is in the world than when you're an 18, 19 year old man ever. That's when you are the highest point of confidence. And I believe that it's so much dumb shit. But that's fine. You should. You should believe in crazy, stupid things when you're a kid. Because that's what you do.

You do it through college or whatever. That's always been historically the case. But now with the social media and all the attention, now it just makes it really hard for people to see that as a phase because they're getting a lot of validation externally that they probably shouldn't be. No offense, but if you're 19 years old, I don't give a fuck what you think about unemployment or the minimum wageer

because you've never even worked a job before. Why the fuck would I care? Yeah. You should still have the opinions, though, like, be crazy. before we switch skills I just you think that about 19 old and 18s you really shouldn't list the kids about chopping

the dicks up that's all I'm saying Hey y'all but I ask you what is trans right shut up Hey man hold up man I want to say something The question about trans right Now I just wanted to say this

Like I'm not against like trans people at all Yeah I just think you still need to keep your life In reality you're still, if you're living your life as a woman, you're a man, but you're living your life as a woman, which is fine. But when you try to affirm yourself by coming up with these pronouns and you're going to women's restrooms and you're competing against women

and you're having a kid sucking your nipple, you're not in reality at that point. I think it just hurts society. Sure. Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree, but I'm pretty much 99% of trans people would agree with that. Like most trans people don't want to go into the wrong bathroom and have somebody like attack them by. Like most don't want that smoke, you know.

And then people that are trying to, you know, argue the opposite of like, well, I don't want this person in my bathroom. It's like, bullshit. If you, like, if you're a dad and you go into the bathroom of your son, you don't want fucking Blair White walking in, you know, being like, oh, well, this is the bathroom that could sort of say I have to go into. So I'm going to take a piss next to your son. And now you have to go. I'm totally all for that. Okay. I'm totally all for that.

Okay. Okay. You don't want your wife. You don't want your wife going into the bathroom with her six-year-old daughter. And Buck's, um, fuck, Buck, um, Angel, Buck Angel. Yeah, walks in. You know, and now you got to... Who's that bitch?

That's a trans man, right? The really famous trans guy. I never heard her. I mean him. You'd like him. You would. You really would. He looks good, huh?

No, he has all your opinions, so... Yeah. Thanks, all the trans stuff has gone way too far. Oh, okay. Yeah. But, no, like, I agree with you. Like, most of that shit is fucking crazy. Like, most of a lot of shit is crazy.

But, like, I try to define myself in opposition to the people that I think are fucking insane. Like, I think a lot of, like, the DEI stuff is, like, kind of wacky sometimes. And a lot of the... everything is white supremacy and all that shit is kind of wacky. But I'm not about to say like, oh, yeah, you know, like, I think all of the racial inequities in society have been completely addressed, and now it's just like, yeah, some people just suck.

Yeah, I try to get pushed too far the other way. You being raised by conservative parents, how do you, did you push back on that early or did you later? Because you consider yourself now to be a liberal, right? Yeah, pretty hardcore, yeah. Yeah, what's the difference between a liberal and a progressive? You're more progressive, right? Depends on how you define them.

What is a progressive? Progressive is chopping dicks off. Progressive believes. That's a progressive. Progressive believes in late-term abortions. Yeah, there's, like, I think a liberal is somebody that is, like, imagine, like, a... Fane. Imagine, do you remember SJWs?

From, like, 10 years ago, that's what we call woke people now. We call them social justice. I think, like, liberals are, like, SJWs from, like, 10 years ago. So they're like, we need to have, like, gay marriage, and everyone should have, like, the right to abortions. That's like the liberal, yeah. Now, progressives are like, they're in another island doing some shit. They still left, they open that.

You don't even say. They're, yeah, they kind of live in their own world. Yeah. So you're a liberal? You ever see that, do you know Ryan Long is? I probably know. You ever see that fucking video where it's like the Nazi and the woke guy agree on everything?

A Nazi and a woke guy. It'll be like, yeah, like a liberal would say something like, hey, we need to, like, we should loan more money to minority businesses to like help them catch up. And then like the progressive would be like, actually, I think that minority businesses should be racially segregated because white people shouldn't be allowed to go into black-owned businesses, right? That would be like, that would be like the progressive versus the guy. Right. Right. And then the Nazi guy would be like, I actually agree we should racially segregate. Well, like, that's the difference. Yeah. But I think that progress is, like liberals on steroids are like way more extreme, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. That's definitely whatever. I would do anything if the Democrat Party was liberal. They bring back the old Bill Clinton.

But, well, the thing is, the weird thing is I think that most of the Democratic Party still like that. The problem is that is the problem. is that when you go online especially too like everybody that you see are like the crazy fucking college kids and then the crazy fucking activist but then if you like look in congress like none of these people really like look at the justice stems the four like aOC we should uh like um uh uh and then uh elan omar and fuck i forget the fucking names but a oc is like the big one that everybody talks about right like all the progressives don't like a oc anymore it's like she sold out she's a fucking liberal fuck her like i don't even like her anymore and that was their like champions so i feel like even though these people are really loud online and really big in college campuses which might be

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That's a big change. That's a huge segue. Yeah. Yeah. Well, right now I think there's a war going on. Yeah. What's your perspective on what's going on? Because I see the left. They call it a genocide.

They call it ethnic cleansing. Sure. And conservatives. Conservatives, they call them Palestinians terrorists. Yeah, pretty much. Like, it's, well, I think the conservatives are more extreme on this than the actual left on this issue. I don't think there's a genocide going on. I think that's kind of silly.

I think that Israel's at war right now with Hamas. I think they have a good reason to want them to be gone. I think the humanitarian situation of the Gaza Strip is pretty bad. but not as bad as people are saying it is. I've seen some photos of Gauts of Strip, West Bank. It looks apocalyptic. It looks like in the world. There's a lot of bombing and shit that goes on in the ham.

I mean, it looks horrible. It's like, it looks like, I mean, it looks like something you see in the movie. It looks like that movie. I'm legend. Yeah. Yeah. It looks horrible. Yeah, but I mean, like they get, like,

some of the highest recipients of foreign aid in the world. Like, assuming the war ends, like, you could rebuild that shit pretty fast. If you get the people, the companies ended up to do it, yeah. That's one of the biggest arguments to place. It's like they're getting a lot of foreign aid. Here's some pictures. I mean, the whole city looks like that. West Bank.

Well, that's Hamas's Stronghold. Do you know that? Yeah. They were hiding out. They had a big army base. Yeah. They figured out it was an army. That's not actually apartments.

That's our army base. Yeah, all that's this, uh, Amas, huh? Yeah, they are a huge army. Did you know that? Yeah. I thought they were like, I'm being for Citi. No, I don't know. I get, though.

But what I was going to say was, like, you speak of the form. A lot of the Palestinians are claiming that foreign aid is not making it to them. Israel is keeping everything and not sending anything to the Gaza. I think if anybody's stealing, there's probably Hamas. That's where they get the money for all the weapons and the tunnels, and that's why they're billionaire leaders and stuff are over in Qatar. So you think they take an aid and building tunnels? They have tunnels.

Yeah, you can see them everywhere. You don't need aid to build a tunnel. You just need a shovel. You got to have concrete to lay the fucking shit. You've got to, like, do the wires. you gotta get, yeah, it's a lot of fucking work. I don't believe anything I hear on TV. Like, they say they're using kids as human shields.

We can't verify that. I don't know if they're using kids as human shields. They use kids to fight, though. Like, they fight, yeah. I mean, like, in the West, we have this idea that, like, a 17-year-old is just this starry-eyed person. But if you go to, like, super war-torn areas, like, yeah, you give kids AK-47 is when they turn 10 years old.

Right. Do you believe in the original that Palestine actually existed? Not. It depends on what you mean by that. What is it actually used to be called UK Palestine? Yeah. Kind of. Yeah, there was, so when the Ottoman Empire fell after World War I, all the European countries,

because they were kind of moving away from the, we're going to make colonies and take over everybody. They're like, okay, well, after the Ottoman Empire is gone, we're going to kind of like draw out all these areas. We'll call them countries, and we're going to let you people kind of like figure out what you want to do. And then in 20 years, we're going to give it to you. It was like the mandate system. And so, yeah, there was a place called Mandatory Palestine. That was the Palestinian state. And then the UK had also made promises to Jewish people who were like,

we want to have like a place where we can go and like live because we get killed everywhere we go. So they started. You should laugh when you say that. Yeah. I mean, they started moving down there. And then, you know. Who determined that the British, right?

The British, yeah, because it was the British mandate for Palestine. And then the thing that I'm referring to everybody calls the ballot for declaration. Okay. Yeah, exactly. So just what I want to say. Shouldn't it be the people that live in Palestine? Shouldn't it be more like a democracy? Should they have a vote in who gets, you know, when they bring reference?

That's the old map of it right there. Well, okay. So this map is not really accurate, but the... I mean, my question is like they... Okay, so other countries decided what that area, which was formerly known as Palestine, the people in Palestine... Well, careful, because it wasn't... It was never actually... There was no state called Palestine.

It was part of the Ottoman Empire. The people that lived there, they had no say-so in who and what refugees were brought in their country. Other countries determined that. Yeah. The people that actually lived there didn't have no say-so in that. Yeah, but there was no government. There were no united people. It was like tribes of people and families that live scattered across.

So what was the demographic of people that live there prior to that? I think the vast majority were it would have been Arabs. There were a few Druze. There were a few Christian. There were a few Jewish people. Yeah, the majority of it was Muslim. Yeah, Arabs, yeah. Muslim Arabs, yeah.

Yeah, but so because they didn't have a government, you don't think they should have had to say so? I mean, well, the thing was they lost a war, right? Like they won that territory by conquest. That's why they were there. It's because it had been conquered by prior caliphites by the Ottoman Empire. So they won it by conquest, and then the Ottoman Empire collapsed after the war. And then it was basically the Britain and France and the West were deciding,

okay, well, what do we do with these territories? And then they drew them up. And, yeah. I mean, like, on the flip side, like, should people have not been allowed to move to Palestine? Like, they didn't even have a government there to represent. I think they should have put the Jews not around a bunch of people that look like me. They should put them everywhere as a bunch of white people, like in Sweden. Yeah, but I think the issue is that, like, keep in mind that you're talking about a time in the, you know, 40s where they got killed by a bunch of white people, Germans.

I mean, they didn't seem like that worked too well, yeah. Well, the Arabs ain't too far in them neither. I mean, you're going to put them around a bunch of Arabs. Yeah. That's dangerous. It's so dangerous. They got literally a dome over them. Yeah, but I mean, like, I mean, they got a whole ass state there now, right?

They got their country. They're pretty solidified. Yeah, I look at it from this point of view. Like, originally when they were sending a bunch of European Jews there. they were refugees. That's how they were seen, right? Refugees. Now those refugees have totally pushed

the original inhabitants of that area out to West Bank, Gaza, and now we're funding billions of dollars to this country, and now they are pushing and attacking these people. Because I think these people

are just retaliating. I mean, I think the complicated part, though, is that like they, so the Jewish people that were there, they tried, they would have been willing to live, like, under a state where they had a bunch of these people, you know, living there.

That's what they say, though. Well, they accepted it. When the UN said, we're going to make a partition and we're going to say in 1947, here's your new state, 55% of you in this state are going to be Jews and 45% are going to be Arabs. That's a huge chunk of your population is Arabs. The Jewish people reluctantly were like, okay, fine, fuck it, we'll accept it.

And then the Arabs were like, nope, we're going to destroy you. Fuck that. So they rejected it, and then the Palestinians went to war, and then all the Arab states went to war, and then they lost, and then that happened three more times. Do you understand that argument that they were there first? Well, but I mean, like, that's such a weird argument. Because in that case, Jews were there first, like 2,000 years ago.

Okay, so... Yeah, I think everybody was there. Let me say this. Like, we fought that war to defeat Hitler because he was conquering and taking over countries. Yeah. Right. Right after that was done, we said, fuck it. We're going to do it to the Arabs in Palestine and we're going to give this shit to Jews.

We did the same thing that Hitler was doing. No, but at least we was conquering, we took over an area and turned into something we wanted to be. The people that lived there had no say-so in. I think it's hypocritical of the U.S. and the entire world who fought to defeat Hitler, who was doing the same thing. He was trying to take over the whole world. Now they created a Jewish state. The Jewish people that moved there were just moving there. They bought land from Arabs.

They moved Jewish people and they started working in, right? It's not like they didn't. So they bought the land there? They bought it, yeah, initially. But the majority of that they bought was bought before the Ottoman Empire even collapsed. The only time they conquered land, like they stole it through war was when the Arabs said, no, we don't actually want any of you to live here. and then they tried to go to war with the Jewish people and kick them all out,

and then they lost all those wars. So you don't think it's ethnic cleansing? Without getting too common. Ethnic cleansing is that that's a very recent term that we've developed. Prior to the 1990s, like there's population transfer would happen. When people go to war,

after World War II, some millions and millions of Germans that had to move back to fucking Germany because nobody wanted in their fucking place. Like after war, as population transfers would happen. It happened between Greek and Turkey, it happened between India and Pakistan.

Like, yeah, after war is like people, you don't want people living sometimes you think they're going to kill you. Yeah. It sucks. It's not nice. It's not pretty. I think if you can call it out when other countries do it, you can call it out when Israel's doing.

Sure. But again, like in, I mean, they immigrated to Palestine. They weren't just like conquering the land. Right. They were just a bunch of open land there. Look, look at all this open and free land. We hit the jackpot. We got here.

There was people already there. Sure. But I mean, like you say there was all this open. It's the same Christopher Columbus shit all over again. It's, I mean, like, but I, hey, listen, they bought the land. They had the rights to it. They had the deeds to it. They moved in people that started working it.

And then when the British finally realized like, okay, well, fuck, like, it seems like the people aren't getting along. You need to make, like, a partition for it. Like the Arabs said, no, fuck you, get the fuck out. Right. They try to make it more homogenous. Just one people there. You don't want the Jewish. It's a Jewish state.

But they accepted a partition that would have had 45% of their population as Arabs. So why is Hamas bombing Israel if they're not pissed about? Because they're saying this is a genocide. That's why Hamas was created. Hamas is trying to bomb Israel because the Palestinians there still want to take all of the land. They want to kick all the Israel's out, all the Israelis out of the area. Yeah, because they were there first. It depends what you mean by their first.

They were only there. They were there because the Ottoman Empire conquered the territory, but technically Jews were there 2,000 years ago, right? There's a reason why Muslims don't want. There's this whole thing called the Temple Mount, and one of the huge concerns is you are not allowed to dig under the Temple Mount. Because if Jewish people start digging and they find remnants of the old temple, half the fucking Muslim world is going to fucking kill themselves.

They're like, no, because in their mind, there were never Jews there. They can't even accept that as a possibility. So they can't even have them excavating underneath because they don't want them to find an old temple there because they'll fuck their bruns out. Well, by putting the Jews, they've created a problem that you can never fix. Yeah, and it might be the death of all of us. Religion is, there's nothing on this planet has killed more people than religion. This shit's going to blow up and kill everybody. Yeah, but I mean, like, it hasn't even killed that many fucking people.

It's true of a lot of people. It hasn't. Yeah. We think it has because of all the media coverage. But like in the history of all the Israeli Arab wars, all of them combined for the past 100 years. maybe 100,000 people have died. Well, how do you fix it? You can't fix that.

One nuke to take them all out. No, I'm just kidding. Turn into a parking lot, huh? It's complicated. Start all low. Somebody has to tell, like, the Palestinians, hey, you guys have to actually try to negotiate like a real-ass peace deal

because you're probably not going to get the entire territory anymore. You know, I found a veto of Trump. He was saying that he wanted to negotiate, you know, with the Palestinians. And he said, the only person didn't want to come around agreement with Netanyahu.

That's what he alluded to. I don't know what Trump said on the Middle East. Trump said a lot of wild things. He's pro-Israel, though. Yeah, he is, yeah. But I'm just saying that, like, I think that the Palestinians enjoy a lot of international support for their cause. And because of all that international support in their mind, they don't want to settle

for anything less than all of Israel. And that means that they can't be negotiated with. And now you've got Israel that's gone further and further right, because, obviously, yeah, with Netanyahu and everything, they're getting more and more pissed off at all the terrorist attacks. And they're just like, well, fuck this. They don't want peace. And it just, like, causes this huge schism.

So neither side is really willing to come to the table and negotiate anything. But people, when we talk about this conflict, people like the cherry pit. Like what happened to the Israel on, well, I forget the date and those people murdered, that was horrible. And that's the terrorist attack. But nobody actually looks at it holistically from what actually initiated this conflict. It's been going on for a decade. Nobody wants to admit why it's happening. You know, that's why it's never going to get a fix.

Nobody's willing to admit. Like a lot of people to get criticized who criticize Israel, their labor is anti-examination. Semitic, which I'm not anti-Semitic, and they kind of hijacked that term that only mean Jewish people. It also means Palestinians. It means Arabs. I'm just trying to look out for another Semitic people that I feel. Sure, but like people do that on the other side too, right?

Yeah. Where they say, like, oh, you don't like Palestinians because you're racist. You're bigoted. Right. So I mean, like, everybody weaponizes identity bullshit all the time. Right, right, right. It's definitely cleansing. That's what I think it is.

I mean, that's what it is. It's a Ukrainian Jewish state. Yeah. You want all the original people that live there. Gone. I mean, a place wasn't empty when he got there. People had to move. Yeah, but there's how many, like, Arab states that are ethnically Arab.

I know that's the thing. You shouldn't go to an Arab state. Arab Arab Arab Arab and say, you know what I'm going to make this shit Jewish? Don't pack your shit up. Get your turbines. Y'all need to get out. When you go on conquest wars and you lose and your empire collapses, this is what happens. The Palestinians were part of the Ottoman Empire.

The Ottoman Empire was on the losing side of World War I, and that entire empire collapsed. And that's how new countries are made and new countries are formed. And like sometimes people get moved around and sometimes it sucks. But I mean, like that's what happens. That was how the world worked in the early 1900s. So you. But like I said, that's why we defeated Hitler because we said enough and enough.

Yeah, but by the, but we're already way past the point of the problem at that point, right? In 1937, there was a commission that the UK did called the Peel Commission where they tried to like look at the problems. Like, okay, well, we've looked at the problems and we see this shit is fuck. You guys have to split. You have to make two different countries. And that was in 37. That was before Hitler started holocausting Jews. So you're already like fucked by the time.

That happens, yeah. You think the original people to live there, they're entitled to give them to settle what they want? Or should they listen to on the original Palestinian? I think they, I mean, like, having some kind of compensation, I think would be nice. Like, the ability to move back to, like, the West Bank or the Gaza Strip, if it was its own country, would be nice. Giving people money or compensation for stuff lost would be nice. But, I mean, no refugee in the history of all of mankind has been like, okay, we're going to let you move back into, like, the original house that you said you had, like, 100 years ago. nobody's ever done that for refugees ever, yeah.

That's what they did for the Jews. That's not true, though. How many Jews got kicked out of how many Arab countries? Every single war between, every single time there was a war between Israel and an Arab state, all the Jews got, like, started fleeing all of the other Arab countries after every fucking war. Why do you think people hate Jews so much? I don't know as much about, like, world history, but like if I had to guess, I think that something kind of unique happened to Jews and that they all got kicked out of their shit, you know, when the kingdom of David or Reverend. the fuck the original Israeli kingdom collapsed and once they got kicked out and they left they still

managed to hold on to their religion and their culture pretty strong so you have a group of people that are holding onto their religion and culture that value things like education or intelligence or whatever and they move to other countries and because of that they never like fully integrate so you're kind of looking at them a little bit weird and they all kind of see themselves as kind of like a separate thing and I think because of that it's just easy to blame them or demonize them for a bunch of shit but I mean like nobody really likes those types of people and like how many people like you know romani like gypsy people like people that are these like cultured people without a state that are like in your society is like nobody ever really likes these people yeah i think it's a difference in whose god you're

worshipping i think it's all based on religion if if we had the same religion we didn't even have this problem you think so yeah i don't think so that's why they're trying to kick out all the arabs be one of a jewish state if if they all had the same god we didn't be talking about this yep all boils down in religion well if that whole area was jewish i mean if that was true why do so many arabs fight so many other fucking arabs like You look at Syria. Because there's a lot of stupid Arabs out there. But I mean, like, if you look at all, if you say the religious part, so I look in the Middle East, I'm going to go, we have the Jews and the Jews and we get the Arabs and get the Arabs.

That's probably where all the death happens. The death happens between Iran and Iraq. The death happens in the Syrian Civil War. The death happens in the Syrian, right? Well, I don't think the conflict. So why don't you put Jews right there where the Arabs are already killing each other? I just think if everybody had the same God, the conflict wouldn't be as astronauts. You make a great argument.

So why do you stick Jews right there with all these crazy Arabs? I wish there as far as you were. I don't think there was any other good place for them to go. Sweden. Sweden and Norway didn't want it. Palestine didn't want them. You should have stuck them in a white area. It's not what you say white, but that's not how they view it.

They look white. Dude, have you, European people have like fucking x-ray goggles when it comes to ethnic fucking backgrounds. Like in the United States, I'm like, okay, black, white, Asian, maybe Chinese. When you go to fucking Europe, dude, you talk to a fucking, I know, because my ex-wife's sweet. Look at these people and they're like, oh, that go over there. It looks like he's 44% Russian, I think 32%.

Eastern Germany, like 10%? Like, the fuck? It's like a white dude over here. Like, in Europe, they don't look at people. Like, oh, he's white and he's black and they have like their ethnic lines. They see that way more. Yeah. I got a different perspective. When I went there, it's more like a class structure. I think

the United States is more fascinated with race than I went to Europe in Australia. I think people look at you from a class point of view, like what clothes you were and how you presented yourself and how you talked. The whole continent of Europe has like a wide, rich history of

war and Napoleon like these people to go to war with each other and invade each other and kill each other and I mean you had your huge empires how many collapsed

after World War I you know your Czechoslovakia as well and then you're like Austria-Hungary and you've got like your like all the Ottoman Empire

like all of these places where you got the whole the breakdown of Yugoslavia and like the you know the genocides with the Serbs and everything like European people

kill each other a lot too and they definitely let me ask you this yeah did you compare what's going on in Israel like what Christopher Columbus did to the Native Americans? No, because if that was the case, Israel would just, like, kill all the Palestinians to be done with it.

Well, Christian, it was under, I mean, Christopher, I mean. Well, that was a genocide with the, that was an actual genocide. Yeah. You don't think there's no comparison? No. Taking over that land. How many genocides have you been able to surrender in? Like, somebody's genociding you.

You can't say, like, okay, well, we give up. Let's stop. Like, that's not. It's just not. Well, there's some Native Americans left. They say, no, it's enough white men. I would go to my, give me a little. I mean, like, they call it a genocide.

Like, the war is very clearly in response to a precise military action, the October 7th stuff, right? So, unless they just used this as a perfect excuse to genocide them. But then they're also, like, setting up humanitarian camps and trying to let in more aid and also dropping leaflets. It's like the weirdest genocide ever.

Humanitarian aid workers have been bombed by Israel. Yeah, but I mean, like, also, but Hamas fights out of humanitarian. They just published videos like yesterday showing Hamas workers, like, working in, like, literally going between humanitarian aid workers, vehicles and shit. Like there's a reason why there's no videos of Hamas fighters in fucking uniforms. They all fight in civilian

fucking garb, right? They hide weapons and shit in people's houses and they operate out of fucking hospitals. We've known that even Amnesty International report show like this. So how do you think this is going to get fixed? Oh, I think it's going to get fixed? Fuck, I don't know. You don't fix it. The problem is that like, yeah, there's not because people don't understand the history

or because people don't understand what both sides want. People just keep pushing for like the status quo which is not tenable. You can't keep doing what we're doing. And I think that's probably unfortunately what's going to happen until the next big blowup happens, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, got a damn good episode going on. And before we get to that, hey, over 94% of y'all are watching, but you ain't subscribed. What kind of bullshit is that? Did you forget? We got a lot of damn good shows coming. Yeah. I mean, famous people. Yeah.

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supporter? I'm a huge Joe Biden supporter, yeah. Yeah? Yeah. Dude, you're too smart to be a Joe Biden supporter. Dude, you're very smart articulate. How the fuck can you support that? Well, it's really easy because I see the person on the other end of the ticket is Donald Trump, so I can't have a very

very thing. So what is Joe Biden did that just going to get your vote? I think our foreign policy aims right now are a lot more noble. So the conflicts that we're involved in right now are Ukraine, Russia. I'm a strong supporter of Ukraine. And then Israel Palestine. I think that there's at least like a strong argument to be involved in this. The fact that he followed through on getting a center of Afghanistan,

the fact that we pulled out of that Saudi coalition to like bomb the fire at of Yemen. I like the way he put out Afghanistan. That was beautiful. The way he didn't have did it any better. Well, listen, Donald Trump negotiated the timetable. He's the one that left him there with like 4,000 fucking troops or whatever. But at least we got the fuck out. At least we're out.

He should have did it better. We're fucking out. I don't give a fuck. We're out. We're finally. 20 years. We're fucking out. Dude, I see 747 people's clinging on to it.

Yeah. And they're going up in an air house like... Yeah, because they know they're flying to America, the best goddamn country in the fucking plane. I'd cling to a plane too if I had to stay in fucking Afghanistan. Okay. Listen, the great country. We're out. We're out.

We're not talking about anymore. That's all I care about, okay. actual Americans there. Huh? That pull out was so bad. I'm pretty sure they got. I think by the end, every American got out. Because we would have been, yeah, because we would be hearing about it nonstop.

What they had? I don't trust the media. You would not hear about it. I think you, you, bro, I know a fucking, who was the street? There's like a streamer dude that like goes to crazy places that, or a YouTuber guy, right? They got trapped in Afghanistan for a while, but he finally got out. You got out. I think our foreign policy aims, I think are better.

We're not as involved in as much stuff like around the world. Domestically. The Ukraine stuff. Yeah. The Israel stuff. Yeah, let's go. Well, yeah, those are the two, but I think those are two. I appreciate those two.

We had peace under Trump. With all the conditions for war, we're brewing. Okay, so Ukraine, Russia. Russia invades Ukraine. You were against that. Yeah. Okay, I'm against war. I'm anti-war.

But since Putin has been the president of Russia for decades, he's always said, Ukraine cannot enter NATO. Okay. Because I want to protect my borders. He's always made that known. All of a sudden now, Ukraine wants to be a part of NATO. That's why he invaded. No.

That's why he invaded. No, he invaded. He's protecting his borders. He invaded. Why did he invade? He invaded because the guy that he wanted to be president in Ukraine ended up getting chased out of Ukraine in 2014. Yanukovych got chased out after their Euro-Midon protests because he wanted to take Ukraine in a more pro-Russian direction. And Ukraine wanted to go in a more pro-European Union direction.

And Yanukovych was like, no, we're going to join like over here with the Russia's. customs union instead and then there were huge protests and revolts against this and then eventually there were police that shot and killed protest you don't think i until agencies installed zaneski i don't think so there's been speeches of uh putin for decades always told nato stay away from ukraine i want to protect my borders there's already three countries that are bordering fucking russia but he's been explicit about this for decades we had agreement with him and there's been a yes there's been rfk said there was an agreement there was what he lied RFK is a fucking moron.

That's great. He said the same thing about you. You're at your butt for. This guy had a brainworm die of starvation in his head, okay? Oh, this is a brainworm. The brainworm die of starvation in his head. I don't even want to fucking RFK. I want to stick to the fucking Ukraine shit.

Okay. All right. So the reason why, okay, you said the reason why you think he invaded it. He had a leader that died that he got kicked out that he supported and now he was assman. So he goes into. Can you prove that for a fact? Well, yeah, Yanukovov. fled after that video of Putin like he's always said this yeah I don't know if you ever saw

this but he's always warned NATO yeah if Ukraine becomes or wants to become there was never a conversation about Ukraine joining NATO wasn't even a thing there was an agreement for decades no yeah that's why that's why the invasion happened after Yanukovych fled he left and then and 2014 and then that's when Crimea got taken over the Linzky was already president right no no this is in 20 in 2014 is when Russia came in and they took over the peninsula the Crimean Peninsula Yeah, two years ago. Okay. I want to again I'd say it. I've said,

but I'd very want to you'd just, you'd say it to their readers, viewers, and do you, like, speak this, or? I can say it. But you know, or not, that if Ukraine will be in NATO and, in a

wayan by virtue, will be back to the European countries automatically would be in a warring conflict with Russia. And, of the potential of the UNO organizations NATO and Russia is not supposed to be. We understand.

We also understand, that Russia is one of the headerner of derives, but on some components, in the modernity, even, many of them, aberrish, and there will be. And you'll be able to get into this conflict, from among its own will. And you even don't even will yet yet yet glasemn't mind, when you will do not do you, point 5th, the RIMSk of the GERM's. But, Mr. President, of,

I don't want to do this. And I don't want. And I don't want. So, so, he's here and he's and he's nothersts for six hours for a lot of videos too.

But it's been well known that if Ukraine wants to become a part of NATO, it's going to be a problem. Why, though? Because he wants to protect his boys. No, because he wants to invade him fuck with countries around them.

That's what he did in Georgia? He invaded Georgia. He peeled off two territories. He invaded Moldova. In 91, they did that. Georgia was 2000. I don't remember. And now you've got Ukraine a couple years ago

where he's doing the exact same thing that he did in Georgia. Yeah, I believe you. But I think his reason for entering Ukraine is protecting force. Bullshit. He's doing it. He's, no.

First of all, even if that was the reason, you don't get to make that call. You don't get to tell countries around you. Like, you're not allowed to do what you want because fuck you. I want to invade you. We do that. All the time.

United States. Well, we did that in the Cuban Missile Crisis. Russia was going to put missiles in Cuba. USA blocked that because we wanted to protect our borders. So it's going to put missiles in Cuba. We didn't tell Cuba. We wanted to put missiles in Cuba so they could hit America. We didn't dictate Cuban alliances.

We just said we don't want nuclear missiles 100 miles off the coast of Florida. That's a different thing. That's a totally different thing. That was going to start a nuclear war. Yeah. Russia decided to back off and it ended that crisis. USA protected their borders. Russia can protect their borders.

Russia's not protected them. They're invading another country and stealing territory. Russia already has Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, three NATO-aligned countries that are already on the border of Russia. So the idea that they need to invade Ukraine because they can't have a NATO country on their border. One, Ukraine is, we're not talking, or in the past. We weren't talking about Ukraine joining NATO. They never had a direct path, a member ascension plan or whatever to NATO.

That wasn't even on the table. The reason why they invaded them is because they didn't want them to be part of the European Union's trade market. They wanted to keep them as part of their economy. That's why. That's it. That's why they made in 2014. You don't think he's taking a tactical position to preserve his borders of this country? No, because you know he's not.

Because NATO doesn't invade Russia. NATO doesn't fight nuclear powers. We don't do that. We're not going to, we can just do it through the fucking Baltimore. We can do it over the United States. We do whatever the fuck we want. We blew up his fucking pipeline. Why wouldn't NATO invade Russia?

Because that's not in Russian territory. So from Putin's standpoint, he wants to protect his citizens, his country. His citizens are never getting invaded. If anything, if anything, having Ukraine being in NATO would probably provide more defense for Russia. because Ukraine is never doing shit inside Russia if they're part of NATO, because they'll either get kicked the fuck out of NATO or the United States will shut them the fuck down. Because now you're part of NATO,

and if you attack people, Putin referenced Article 5. If you get attacked as a NATO member, Article 5 means that all the NATO members will come to help you. And that's why Putin doesn't want Ukraine and NATO. Yeah, because he wants to be able to invade Ukraine and fuck with them. That's what's happening. That's exactly what's happening. He wants to protect his border.

Protect from what? Missiles. NATO doesn't shoot missiles into Russia. Since when? Since the advent of Russia? How do you know that's never going to happen? If it is going to happen, Ukraine is not a big factor in it. We don't need Ukraine to invade Russia.

He saw what we did in Israel. That's not related to anything. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. He's just trying to protect his country. No. That's the way I see it. How is invading Ukraine protecting his country?

Because he's got a buffer zone between him and NATO. But he already has. has countries bordering him that are in NATO. Well, Putin wants more countries. Yeah, I know what he said. That's probably, right? You don't believe Fauci. You don't believe Biden, but you believe fucking Putin. What the fuck? I don't believe anybody. Oh, well, you believe in Putin. Well, let's look at what Putin says. Let's think about

what's actually happening here. He's invaded. He's invaded, he's invaded Moldova. That's why Transnisteries. He invaded Georgia, and he peeled off territories there. Southless Asia and Iskabod or whatever the fuck. And now he's invading Ukraine. He's doing the same thing. This is for his defense? No, it's not. Because he wants to evokechch to fuck with him. But he says this force defense. Yeah, that's the propaganda. Gander line. No, no, he decides what he wants to do for its country.

If he feels that's... They can invade other people and take their territory? Well, he's made it known. If you invade Ukraine, it's a problem for me in Russia. Yeah, but Ukraine wasn't joining NATO. That wasn't happening NATO now. No, they're not. No, there's not.

Yes, they are. I promise or not. So you did not affect that Ukraine wants to join NATO. I know, no. They want to join NATO. Yeah, because they got invaded by fucking Russia. Yeah. Before they even went down, it was in talks.

Yeah, there have been talking. They've always been shot down because we know it would cause too much instability for them to actually join. I think the real reason why. Women from Russia, right? Because Russia would be ass mad about it. Yeah. I think the real reason. You denied that, though.

No, no, no, no. I'm not denying that they might have been ass mad about it, but that's not the reason why they invaded. They invaded because of their leader. No, because Ukraine was never joining NATO. It wasn't going to happen. In order for you to join NATO, every single member has to sign off on it. But you deny the fact that Ukraine is in bed with the United States. We split out of them with weapons, missiles, tanks.

You supply them with all this. Why don't you think Putin will have a regional expectation if I don't invade Ukraine, then they're going to be able to turn Ukraine into an ally of the United States. We're only supplying them with all their ship because Putin invaded. If you hadn't invaded, this wouldn't be happening. We wasn't given them missiles anything before that. Before 2014, I don't know what our military is.

Probably not that much. Yeah, we supplied them well. The main reason why I think Putin invades, he wants to protect his boys, which I understand you deny that, but they're in bed with the United States. And Putin sees that a, you know, a severe conflict, aggression to Russia. Okay.

I mean, I'm just going by like what happened historically. In 2014, the leader that he supported got kicked out of the country when a bunch of cops started shooting and killing civilians. After that happened, he invaded Crimea. We can make up weird stories about NATO, but NATO was not on the table for Ukraine at that point. That's not what was the conversation was about. The conversation was joining the European Union

or joining the Russian Customs Union with Belarus. Like that was the conversation on the table and then they rejected that and then he invaded. And now he's like, well, NATO can't blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, he doesn't want them to be part of a no because he wants to be able to bully the fuck at him with his military. Yeah, I think that, and you, and let me say this. Yeah. And you tell me what you think. I think the main reason why what's going on in Israel and Ukraine is because poor leadership.

And then United States has broken promises with Russia. What promises? To not get in bed with Ukraine. NATO and that whole thing. Yeah. The 2014, the United States was not in bed. Yeah, but it's real easy for United States, Fox News, CNN, to say, oh, Russian's Putin's a killer. Oh, he's a mass murder.

Because he obviously is, right? He might be. But I don't believe it's too. We dropped a ball moon in Japan, killed 300,000 people. We're all murderers and killers, everyone, everyone. 80 years ago. Yeah, the world changes. It doesn't matter.

The United States. The United States of America have killed way more people. We're the biggest terrorists in the world. We moved through time. and things change as time evolves, right? We're not going to say that, like, because we did some things, because we had a certain foreign policy during the Cold War, which, by the way, the Soviet Union did as well,

we live by those same standards. Like, foreign policy and everything changes over time. The way that we conduct warfare and the things that were involved and change over time. Yeah, but it doesn't give you an opportunity, it doesn't give you the opportunity to go back on promises. Yeah, but I don't think that we've gone back on promises for Russia. What is the promise we've gone back on?

Ukraine going in the NATO. Yeah. Okay. I don't think that's going to happen. I don't think that's been seriously on the table. They wanted to join. Well, when everybody gets fucking nook, she'll go to know why.

Well, that's a good argument for me to take then because if we get fucking nuke, you'll never be able to say, I told you so fuck you. I'm going to call you. Hey, I'm still alive, that's all right? Yeah, the bomb is coming in.

The nuke's going to hit in three minutes. So you fucking dig Jordan Aidelope with the fuck's happening. Yeah. I don't know. I thought that was pretty understood that what Putin wanted. I think he just wants to exert control over his border partners and bully the fuck out of him.

That's what he's done. Or protect his people. I don't think he cares about his people that much. He was. I don't think he'd be doing this war right now. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think...

You think Ukraine's going to win this war? Was it winnable? Depends on what you mean by winning. Yeah. I mean, the Crimea is almost certainly never coming back. What happens in the Donboss is hard to say. You know what I think is going to turn to the next Israel? It's just going to be an everlasting war.

probably not and we're wasting billions of dollars we gotta support Ukraine Russia can't be allowed to invade countries and take fucking terrorists that's wild Israel did it

when Israel did it that's the same shit it's not the same shit that's a conflict that's a conflict that has existed for 80 years there's a

hey Jews get us look out of his land we just get rid of these damn Palestinians listen in 1991 Ukraine and a whole bunch of

other things broke off from the Soviet Union and everybody around the world recognized everybody's borders. In 91, we all did that with Ukraine. In 94, there was another set in Budapest. People signed three different memorandums between three different countries, one of them being Ukraine, where we said, Ukraine, give your nuclear weapons, that stockpillar, give it all back to Russia, and we promise we won't

invade you, okay? And Ukraine gave all their fucking weapons back to Russia, and then here we are, you know, 20 years after the 94 Budapest memorandums, you get the invasion of Crimea, and then, you know, eight years later, we got the invasion of Ukraine, and I was like, well, fuck me. I guess the only way now, like, if anything, What is the message that Russia sends to the world?

You need nukes or you need to be part of NATO. That's why people that traditionally wouldn't have joined, like fucking Sweden, are now part of fucking NATO, right? You've got a revitalization of people caring about NATO because now you better believe those Baltics are like, damn, I'm sure I'm glad I'm in fucking NATO because fuck me. I would have been Ukraine next. It's a possibility that I'm wrong, right?

You think it's a possibility that you're wrong? About what? About what's going on in Ukraine? Like in terms of why Russia invaded? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's always possible. There could be a ton of uncovered facts that come out. or there could be a ton of things

that I'm not aware of or maybe it comes out that the United States is directly involved. We're not listening to each other. So we start fucking shooting each other. I think there's poor leadership in Ukraine

and that's what started this. Not the guy that fucking invaded the country? Why wouldn't we give any credit? Why not? Why wouldn't we? It's so crazy. Whenever Russia comes in, okay? Like a guy will walk into a room

with a fucking machete and chop a dude's head off and we're like digging through this guy's Facebook profile to see if he sits and they're pissed the guy off that just chopped his fucking head off. Russia invaded Ukraine for no good cost of

belly. He had no good reason for it. He invaded Ukraine and we're like, well, eight years later, there's this clip of him talking about NATO and well, he's trying to say that he wants to protect his people and blah, blah, blah. He's like, the motherfucker. Invaded a country, started a war is taking territory. He's unacceptable. You can't do that. He's already... No, they did. That started 100 fucking years ago. Israel never said, okay, Palestinians, we recognize these borders. That never fucking happened. And the Palestinians said, we want to kick every single fucking Jewish guy out of here. Get on the fuck out. Ukraine never said, we're going to kick all the Russia. We're going to invade Russia.

Russia. And Russia never said we are, and Russia did tell Ukraine, we recognize your border. It's a totally different situation. I have a friend. He's from Ukraine. Okay. I works at the bank. Well, you've not too much information. All right. He's Jewish? No, he's Ukrainian. I don't think so.

I said he worked in the bank. My bad. And a majority of Ukrainians are strongly opposed to Ukraine. The people that live in Ukraine to the left, the ones closest to the border of Russia. Yeah. I guess it's Crimea. They don't like them. A majority of people.

They're pro-Russian. The far-left part of Ukraine. Yeah. The west side of Ukraine is like Ukraine. Yeah. And a lot of Nazis. And he thinks that what's going to happen is to make every both sides happen. They're going to form a new Ukraine.

It's going to be smaller. And he's going to still have this buffer zone that's Crimea. Yeah, that's what Putin wants. That's what he did in Moldova. That's what he did in Georgia. That's what he wants to do. What do you think is the reason he might do that? gives him more control the ability to

exert influence over countries and fuck with him. Or he wants to protect his borders. Because his border, NATO is not a threat to Russia. Yeah. NATO is not, NATO is never attacking or bombing. Yeah, I do say that. Yeah, I do say that. But Putin sees it different. No, he doesn't.

He's not stupid. Putin doesn't see it. How do you know that? Because if he really did believe that, in that last video that we saw, Putin was saying, you guys know, the reason why they conduct war the way they do, why they go in and they start those little civil wars,

is they know that now that there are little wars going on, Ukraine cannot join NATO. Because if Ukraine did join NATO, then all of NATO is going to come in and fight us. So now that's why they conduct war the way that they do. They peel off territories because now there's contested disputed territory. So either one of two things can happen, right? Okay, you came into my basement,

and now I'm going to form an alliance with my neighbor. Well, if I form the alliance to my neighbor, one of two things has to happen. Either one, I have to say, okay, you're going to form an alliance with me. My basement's not part of my house, though. So we're cool, and now I lose my fucking basement, okay? or two, you're going to form an alliance with me.

There's somebody in my basement right now, so we form this lines. You've got to come right the fuck now and kick this guy out of my basement, right? Putin knows that Ukraine can't join NATO, and that's why he said in there, if you join, if Ukraine is a lot of join NATO,

you guys have to trigger Article 5 and fight us right the fuck now. And we got nukes. That's not going to end well for anybody. If it was the case that NATO wanted to fight Russia, that argument wouldn't make any sense because we would just say like,

okay, well, we want to fight you anyway, we want to fuck with you anyway. So Ukraine's going to join NATO and then we're going to come fight with you. But Putin knows that NATO doesn't want to fight with Russia, that's why he can make that argument. Does that make sense? Nope.

I mean, I understand what you're saying. If NATO wants to fight Russia, then they would just say, Ukraine, come in and let's fight Russia. But the fact that we don't let them in NATO when they're fighting Russia is proof that we don't want to fight Russia. It's like, I think pretty obvious. I think, I mean, we're in a proxy war with Russia. Yes. Proxy wars are good, though. I mean, but still, we're willing to go that far.

Putin sees that as aggression. And, I mean, we saw that video. That's countless videos. of them on YouTube. And he's always saying, it's like 10 years old. Sure. Him stating, Ukraine, if it ever comes to a fact that they're trying to join NATO, it's going to be a problem.

I will invade. Of course. Yeah. So we all know that. We all know that. NATO knows that. That's why we don't invade, right? Proxy wars are good because it shows that, like, we don't want to fuck with each other

directly, so we just do it with, like, side shit because we don't actually want to get. Like, proxy wars are good because it shows that the both powers don't want to blow the fucking world up. If Russia started to launch a taxi, against actual NATO countries, well, now we're in a really weird spot because you don't want to do. You want to go to direct war.

Now shit is super fucked. You could get there, I think. But so far, nobody wants that to happen. That's why Putin is saying, like, listen, you can't have Ukraine during because we're all going to be fighting if that happens. And we know, we're like, yeah, fuck, we don't want to do that. But if we did want to do that, if that was our goal all along, then we just say, oh, well, fuck it.

We want to fuck you up anyway. But I don't think NATO is ever going to be attacking Russia. It's just, that's just not NATO's job. It's a defensive alliance, right? Yeah. supposed to be a coalition of countries to fight communism. Well, now it's just defensive.

Now if you're a NATO, you don't get fucked with because if somebody attacks you, you're probably being wiped off the face of air. It's been another Hitler from. Or anything, anybody. Yeah, you just don't want to attack. Yeah. Yeah.

But hey, we'll see what happens. Yeah. I'm like sure I leave my cell phone turned on and off the line or whatever when I see the news flying, so I don't get your fucking call. So what do you think about Trump? Why don't like, why do you, Why would you vote for Biden over Trump?

Well, I said I like Biden. It's foreign policy better. I like, all these wars. You love this foreign policy. But anyway, go ahead. If you want to get through all the foreign policy, we can walk through it. But Trump didn't do anything to help any of these fucking situations, okay? He's like planting the seeds and, like, fucking with it.

He's king of the can on the road and everything. The border is pretty much solved. It wasn't an issue. Yeah, because he had Title 42. It was fucking COVID. He can say there's a COVID lockdown emergency, so I have to say no to every single motherfucker coming to the border. Now, when you go to the border, you know,

when you go to the border, you walk up to the agent and he's like, gotcha bitch. And you're like, actually, I want to do asylum. You're like, fuck. And now you let him in. Yes, that is exactly what's happening. No, no, no, I'm serious. That's how, that's why our shit.

That's why they say like 90. Like, when you get the people coming to the border, there's a historic high, 92% catch rate. It's not because they've gotten really good at catching them. All you do is walk up to the border guard. He's like, I want to do asylum and then now you're going to process me. Let me say this. I don't like Biden's border policy because when Trump was in office, right?

It was going to build a wall, which is not going to prevent all illegal immigrants coming into your country, but it's a tool to help. Well, right now it won't, no. Yeah, it's just a tool. It's not even a tool. Because right now the issue is not people sneaking into the country. People are asylum seekers.

Tell Israel to knock that fucking wall down. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. Walls work. A Palestinian can't walk into Israel and say, I want to claim asylum, let me live here. That's what's happening right now in the United States. He flew.

he still flew in. If they didn't have that wall, they wouldn't be there. Yeah. How do you think most of the October 7th attackers got in? They fucking tore down the wall and they walked the fuck into Israel.

It was like seven dudes in the fucking paraglider machine. I don't care. And it was like 500. Women. Well, yes, they did. There's fucking video. No, wait, Jamie, Jamie,

pull up the fucking video of the guys literally fucking tearing down the wall to come on October 7th. Let me say this. If that wasn't a wall there, Israel would not be there. Yeah, if it wasn't for the United States. No, if there wasn't a while

that the Palestinians wouldn't be there. Realistically. Okay. Walls don't work? No, I think walls, hold on, listen to what I'm saying, please, okay. Walls are helpful to prevent people. That's what I said. No, no, no, no, no, no, you're not understanding.

Tell them what's it. What's going on? Look, there they are. Look at them. What's that? That's one of the walls that of Gaza. Oh, they are. Yeah, they're tearing it down.

Look at them go. Yeah, it was keeping them out. That wall sucks. Did you see the crub wall? Yeah, okay, well, they build tunnels under these, so why build the wall that big? They're going to crawl under it anyway. The better than wall. Listen, listen, walls are helpful.

Yeah, and that's not agree with you. I agree with you. No, let me finish my fucking sense. Fuck! Okay, the wall is helpful for people that are trying to sneak across the border. Right. The big issue that we have right now is not that people are sneaking across. It's that they can go to a border agent and claim asylum.

That's the big issue. But the wall won't help with that. Because they just walk up to a guard and say, like, I claim asylum. You're absolutely right. But when Trump was office, he had a case. catch in he had a catch in not releasing the country. They had to stay in Mexico. They had a remaining, yeah, they did have the

remainder Mexico. It was helped a little bit. But the big thing that Trump had that helped him so much was for Title 42, because of COVID, what Donald Trump could say is, listen, I don't give a fuck who you are, what you want or what you're doing. If you come to our border in the country, border of entry between, whatever the fuck, we are turning you back because there is a national emergency because of COVID. Biden can't use that tool anymore.

They tried to bring it back, but they can't. But that tool allowed him to shut down. everybody trying to get out of the country. He can still reinstate Trump's policies. I mean, you can do kind of remain in Mexico, but the problem is there's a lot of challenges to that, both internationally and domestically. And it's hard to know if it survives like legal scrutiny. But what really needs to happen is we just have to find better ways of doing the asylum shit.

We try to pass a big bill on it, but Donald Trump told people in Congress, the Republicans don't approve this bill because then I'm not going to have anything to run an election over, but that's what has to change. It's not that you can build a wall if you want. I don't get a fight. You want to build the wall is fine. But the big problem with the asylum seekers. We have no way of dealing with it right now.

There's a huge backlog of cases. We don't have judges. We don't have like border agents, like process all these people. And too many people are allowed to just come in and say, like, I claim asylum. And as long as you have like any remotely credible claim, they let you in. And then you get a ticket and you get to wait for your fucking court. Exactly. Exactly.

I bet you over 90% of these people are seeking asylum. They don't meet the qualifications. Maybe, yeah. Presuppable, yeah. But the problem is right now the laws on the book say that you're not allowed to determine that until they go to court, which is what's fucking everything. So why will we catch them and release them into the country? And just do what Trump was doing, send them, keep them Mexico to their cases of,

are adjudicated. That's what I'm hung up on. Yeah, I think that remain in Mexico might be a better policy. The only issue is that when you're talking about people seeking asylum, there are like international regulations about how you're supposed to deal with these people. And if the United States starts to say, like, well, we're not going to let people know they're claiming asylum, then there's a question of whether or not there could be international legal challenges or even domestically people will take it to court and challenge it, which gets like complicated. I would say let them go through the legal process because... No, no, no, no, you can't say that because that's what they are doing

right now. They're going through the legal process. It's not sustainable. I agree. There's always going to be a backlog of cases. Yeah, but that's because the legal process right now says if you come in and claim asylum, then they have to process you in a court system. They'll give you a ticket, and then you just are supposed to show up at your court date. You think they'll show up? I don't know if the percentage people will show up. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of

them don't, though. I mean, why the fuck would you? Dude, zero percent of them going to show up. No, I'm not happy with it now, but I mean, what the fuck can you do? They tried to pass a bill that would have changed a lot of this, and Republicans should shut it down because they said, but Republicans and Democrats, They both play that game.

I don't trust anything. Hold on. Wait, wait. If you want to generalize it, whatever, you can't or make it. But I'm just saying that we had a good bill. They would have capped. So, like, first, as Republicans say, this last bill would have let 5,000 people a day in. Bullshit, it capped it. Because we have days where over 10,000 people come.

Oh, well, 50,000. Yeah. So the last bill would have capped it. So at 5,000 a day, we could have literally said no to fucking everybody. Like, we had our cap for today. Get the, stay back. Come back tomorrow, okay? Fuck off we four.

Yeah, they try to do that. They tried to staff more of the asylum people. They tried to change some of the, like, level of credibility to claim asylum, but the Republicans shut this bill down. So what the fuck do you do? You have to wait until you have more Democrats in Congress, I guess. I think our border should be just like Israel's border. Yep. If Israel can do it, New United States can do it.

Is that too much bad? Isn't our border a lot fucking bigger? So, we're America. We're funding all these parts of wars. We can build a fucking wall-in-law-in-law. Our border should just be like Israel because it's a national security issue. And plus all these people, they don't meet their problems to seek asylum. Sure.

And I think Biden's doing a horrible job with that. Republicans haven't done a horrible job with it. Trump was the first president actually do something about the border. I remember when Trump is the one that blocked the legislation that would have fixed a lot of these fucking problems. Trump blocked it. Yes.

He was literally telling Republicans and Congress, do not vote for this bill. They literally on video talking about it where Trump said, do not vote for this bill. We need this to be an open border issue so that when I run for president, I can have this as an issue that I can fight over and they block the legislation on it.

You can find videos of them talking about. That's good politics. That's fine, but it's bad for America. If you want to say it's good policy, It's horrible for America, but that's where we are. Then don't play fucking Biden if I play fucking Trump for it. He cut it impeached Trump twice. Yeah.

That's Trump's fault. No, it's because they had the votes. He didn't actually do anything wrong. Really? You don't think calling Zolenski and like, can you research my political opponent's fucking son? You don't think that's a little bit of an inappropriate thing for a President of the United States to be doing?

To be impeached? Yeah, to call a leather leader and say, listen, I know that we had congressional approval this aid for you, but I'm just curious, can you find anything on my opponent's son? you know, that would be helpful for me and it'd be your best interest to do. You don't think that's a fucked up thing for a president of the United States? What did Biden say? If you're his vice president.

If you don't fire that son of a bitch, I'm going to keep this billion dollars. What did Biden say? But the reason why Biden was able to say that is because that's- No, you've got to hold them to the both to say the standard. No, hold on. It is the same standard. Money was being made available to Ukraine contingent upon them cleaning up a lot of their stuff and a lot of their stuff had to do with their prosecutorial systems.

Why do you think Biden was able to say that statement on stage and not a single fucking person question it. Because that was the policy of the United States. If you wanted access to this money, you had to clean up a lot of the stuff going on with your prosecutorial body. And Shuggan was a big part of that. Nobody liked him in Europe.

Nobody liked him in Ukraine. Nobody liked in the U.S. And if you want that money that we promised you, if you want that money, part of it is contingent on you cleaning your shit up. There was no part of the congressionally approved aid that went to Ukraine that was contingent on them

investigating Hunter Biden's cockpicks. Wait a minute. So when Donald Trump, Gunnar Fawlanski and wanted him to look in to Joe Biden's son. He didn't withhold anything. He threatened to. There was no pro-quid pro at all.

Well, he threatened to. Well, there was no quid pro quo. That doesn't matter. If I blackmail you, but I don't actually do it, it doesn't mean I'm innocent. Biden did it on stage. Yes, because he was representing the United States. Yeah, he said, you're not getting the money. Yes.

Joe Biden. Joe Biden. But he never did it. Joe Biden was representing the U.S. interest. And Donald Trump was representing Donald Trump was representing Donald. Trump's interest. No. Joe Biden was doing it for the West and for the United States. Donald Trump was doing it for the Donald Trump election campaign. You don't think Joe Biden had a special interest to take care of his son? I don't think that. That's just never been

proven to be the case. He was working on a company in Ukraine. Yeah, he was, I'm aware of all of, yes. There was a company called Burisma. That investigation had died years earlier. They filed the prosecutor that was investigating that. It wasn't even being investigated. There were tons of investigations that had been dropped on this. Yes. Shokin was investigating Burisma. That investigation had been dead for years. Come on, man. You don't think Joe Biden's son got that job because of who his daddy was? Yeah, that's why you sit on boards because of your connections.

Yeah, of course. So when the vice president has his son working a country and he was able to, he had the privilege of getting a job because of who his daddy was. And then when your dad's on stage saying those things, you don't think that should be investigating? Yeah, his dad was saying. You can't investigate it. They did.

They found nothing. No, he said if you don't file that prosecutor that's invisible. my son's company, you're not getting a billion dollars. If you don't fire this prosecutor, it was one of the most corrupt prosecutors in the history of fucking Ukraine, that every single person. Bring that video up, man.

That was quid pro quo. The money was already promised to the Ukraine. The contingency of the money had to do with Ukraine. That was why those loans and that money was being given to them was on the contingent that they cleaned up a lot of the... That's what Trump was trying to clean up. He said, can you look into this issue for me? About my political rival son?

Yeah, why not? Because he's not looking for the United States interest. If that was the case, hold on, if that was the case, why didn't Trump say it on stage like Biden did? Why did he do it in a phone call? He did on a phone call? Yeah, we saw a bunch of recordings and transcripts of it or transcripts of it. This is what Biden said. I guess the 12th, 13th time to Keith, and I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee.

and I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yotsynuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor and they didn't. So they said they had it they were walking out to press conference said no I said I'm not going to or we're not going to give you the billion dollars they said you have no authority you're not the president the president said I said call him I said I'm telling you're not getting a billion dollars I said you're not getting a billion I'm going to be leaving here I think it was what six hours I look at I said I'm leaving the six hours I look at I said I'm leaving the six hours I look at I said I'm leaving the six hours. If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money. Oh, son of a bitch, got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid. He literally says it in the video. He doesn't determine what's solid.

He literally does. The Ukrainian government, the Ukrainians should decide what is solid. No, they're getting loan guarantees from us. They're not entitled to US money. Those guarantees were, and he says it in the video. And he says that we'd already called them, Is every single deal a quid pro quo? If I go to Walmart and I give the guy $10 for some Hershey bars,

am I getting a quid pro quo from Uncle fucking Walton? I'm just using it. I'm using it same language. Y'all used for Trump. It was queer pro quo and that's why he was in the beat. The problem wasn't that it was a quid pro quo. The problem is that he wasn't representing U.S. interests. He was doing something behind the scenes in a subversive manner for a quid pro quo.

That was the issue. What did the Trump do? Trump was trying to, Trump was threatening to withhold, Congressional approved aid to Ukraine. He never said that. He did. He said, would you do me a favor? Let me get you your money, you're motherfuckers.

Can you look at there? Can you investigate my political rival's child? Okay. It's a lot different than Biden saying, we're guaranteeing alone, but that's only if you clean up your shit and you haven't cleaned it up yet. And that's why he even says in the video,

they say, like, well, you don't have the authority to do that. The president does. He said, well, call him, because the president did have the authority to withhold that. And obviously, Biden is there representing Obama's interest. Okay, okay. Okay. What are you going?

Okay, okay, okay, look. Okay, I totally understand your perspective. All right. I don't agree with it, but I totally understand. Okay. Now, after you haven't said, having said all that, Trump's trials, are they persecuting him? Are they melancholy in our election? He's Joe Biden's number one rival. Now, if you're going to hold Trump accountable for that, can you hold Joe Biden accountable for what's going on with this charade against Donald Trump?

Which, what charade? Which one? It's a whole bunch of them. Let's talk about horse face. Which one? Is that Brad? That's the porn star. He got.

Oh, okay. So that's a New York state case. Yeah. So I'm not aware of any communication that Biden is telling them to prosecute Trump. You don't think he has anything to do with it? You don't think, I mean, like, that's an extraordinary claim. I would need some kind of evidence for it. That's an extraordinary claim?

That a sitting U.S. president is ordering a state DA or a state prosecuting attorney to go after a political That would be like one of the largest huge scandals of all time. To that same standard when he made that phone call. What is the standard? Investigate your political rival son working for a company. They're doing exact same thing in Trump. I'm not aware of any phone call between if Biden made a phone call to New York State to Braggs or anybody else. I was like, hey, can you investigate Donald Trump?

I need you to take care of this guy. Then I would say, yeah, that's really bad. You thought that phone call was Zelensky? You thought that was impeachable? I think it's a piece of power. Same thing I hope when the child impeach Bill Clinton for having sex with Monica, that relationship. He was getting sucked off? Yeah.

I have to go back and look at that, but wasn't he impeached for perjuring himself? Isn't because he lied under oath? Yeah, the House final, but he wasn't impeached. They didn't have the numbers. But I thought the Republicans who was pushing that, I think there's a piece of power. That's between him and his wife. Well, but it's not. If you perjure yourself, you're lying under oath, that's a significant.

Your dick sucked? Yeah, you've got to give him a pass on that. It's the problem is what if somebody bad finds out about that, And now they've got you compromised. How you compromised? You just got sucked off. Because, well, but I know that you lie to your wife about getting sucked off. He probably already told us.

Okay, why know you're lying about the country is not getting sucked off? If I know that you're lying about it, I can use that lie to fuck with you, right? Nobody gives a shit. Well, that perjury is a crime in the United States. You should. Yeah, it is a crime. But it seems like nobody on the left is held accountable for it. I feel like we always held accountable a million times.

Look at the fucking Santos guy. How long did it take to get rid of this motherfucker? That was wild. The George Santos guy? Yeah. Yeah, he's gone. Donald Trump lied. like fucking all the fucking time about fucking everything

and that dude is still running. Okay. I think politicians lie. Not the same way. Not as much as much as much. Politicians lie all the time. Do you think they all lie equally? They all lie the same?

I think that, uh, I think they all lie. But I think Democrats are really horrible in that lies. It's like, it's like, why do we go to Iraq? Who was that? Was that a Democrat or Republican? He said he was a Republican. I don't think he was a Republican.

Oh, so if they're bad, if they become bad, they become Democrats. Well, in that case, I agree that all the... That was totally wrong with Iraq. That was all bullshit. Yeah. I think Republicans and Democrats voted for that war. Sure, but it was a Republican president. Yeah, but...

In name only. If Congress doesn't vote for it, they don't go to war. The president has no say so in that. So Democrats and Republicans vote. Yeah. I think what they did to Trump, I think there was totally uncall for. I think there was... They was trying to overturn out of them.

They say it all the time about Republicans. It was a threat against democracy. I think that... I think you can say the Democrats are doing it. exact same thing. So do you think Russia helped Trump win the election? Probably. But it depends on what you mean when you say helped. I don't think they changed

in the votes. Yeah, what was the evidence? Well, I mean, the strongest stuff would have been laid out in the molar indictments where they discovered... Wait, nothing. Those indictments had a lot of information. So there was a company called the Internet Research Agency that was controlling a ton of different

large accounts in the United States and was controlling a ton of smaller accounts in the United States that was operated completely from the Kremlin that they thought in the U.S., they presented themselves as being from the U.S., but they were operating social media in the United States, basically to just stir up dissent and to cost people to get upset and angry with. And that election was Democrats?

Yeah. That's not helping you win an election. Well, considering like 92% of Americans get the majority of their information of social media, I would say it absolutely can help you win an election for sure. Okay, so Russia help. What, they say, shut up. They say Trump colluded with Russia.

Where's the evidence that he colluded with Russia? The evidence that Trump colluded with Russia would have been on the Probably the strongest to be in the Roger Stone line that he was like kind of working back and forth with the guy relating to the Gusifer leaks from the DNC. But I mean, I don't know how strong that is. I don't know if I would say like Trump colluded with Russia. Also, when we say that like Russia helped Trump win, I don't necessarily think it's because Russia liked Trump. I think it was just because he was an outsider candidate and they knew they could stir up a lot of shit doing it. I don't know if like Russia was more favorable to Trump necessarily policy-wise than he was for Democrat.

They just like to disturb shit. So you think, okay. Hold on the flip side, hold on. Do you think that Russia doesn't meddle in our social media? And are you about to say, I think everybody Middles in our left. Yeah, that everybody doesn't. Okay, wait, so then you think that Russia did medal in our...

I don't think so you don't, so you think the United States doesn't are on, but Russia didn't. I don't think they have any influence. Wait, but hold on. I'd ask you, do you think that they create social media accounts and try to stir shit up on the United States? I don't think it would have been beneficial for conservatives. I'm asking, do you think that Russia, do you think that Russia was directing social media accounts in the United States to stir shit up? If you could show me videos, views, I mean, it had to be in a million, hundreds of millions of views. So, like, for instance, like that.

There was an account called 10 underscore GOP that had like over 200,000 followers, I think, on Twitter. And this account was ran by the Kremlin. It was a Russian account. It wasn't the Tennessee GOP. It was just ran by the Kremlin. There were protests that were organized by that IRA. They called themselves the Internet Research Agency. They were organized by the IRA that was run by the Kremlin.

Okay, let's say I agree with you. Let's say Russia Miller and election, that's how Trump won. I don't agree with you, but let's say I do. Are you going to hold Facebook and Big Tech account before this last election? Because it's censored a lot of things. The problem isn't The problem isn't meddling in an election The problem is lying about and misrepresenting yourself

As a non-state entity and then meddling an election You have a right as a company to do things Relating to advertising or whatever You don't have a right as a foreign state To lie about where you're from and that that's the crime So if Russia, if RT in the United States If Russia today wanted to run ads RT wanted to run ads saying fuck Biden

Fuck this guy like Trump is better blah blah blah blah That's within the right they can do that But if they lie and they say like oh we're actually America today And we're blah blah blah blah You don't have an issue. So a foreign nation can't do it, but a private business. A foreign nation can't misrepresent themselves into it. That was the big issue.

But a private entity can? As long as they're not misrepresenting themselves, yes. But why did Democrats spin as they, Trump colluded with Russia? They worked together so he could win the election. Because the whole dossier was fake, right? The whole dossier was not fake. I mean, where's the evidence of him colluding? I don't know if there was strong evidence of him colluding with Russia.

There was no evidence. Well, you can't say there was no evidence. He's on TV saying if Russia finds the emails, they'll be rewarded greatly. and he has people in his campaign staff that are working with Russia. Manafort was literally thrown in prison for stuff that he was doing in Ukraine. Come on, man.

Where is the evidence he colluded with Russia? If y'all actually had that, y'all could have actually removed him from office. He'd been in prison for life. Sure. I don't think there was strong evidence to include to Russia. That's not a thing that I push.

There's more evidence that Trump colluded with Russia, though, than there are that vaccines caused mass injuries. You guys believe that. So I mean, what do you want to do? You like to conflate shit. I'm not complaining shit. I'm just showing you the difference in the logic. The standards being applied here.

Let's just stick to one topic. Trump was never charged with anything relating to like inclusion. So it doesn't seem like there was strong evidence to bring any of those charges or indicters. And it was all bullshit. Can I say something? You're innocent to prove him guilty right. Yeah, I would say something. So he's innocent.

Of those, yeah, I would say he's not. Yeah, but I don't even talk about inclusion. Yeah. Good. We can agree on something. Okay. There's 91 other or so indictments he's facing, but on the Russia stuff. Those indictments?

Yeah. They take in, like, infidelity and turn him into crimes. You shouldn't have fucking lied about paying somebody off for it then. It's probably accounting error, but I don't think it's a crowd. Not an accounting error. He intentionally lied because it was a campaign contribution that would have been way too big. You're not allowed to. Twitter censored a lot of detriment of stories.

You're allowed to censor shit if you want to as a company, it's a private company. Not when you can hoots with the other part. You colluding with your government. There was no evidence. There was no evidence of them colluding. We have a first amendment. Hold on, wait. So you don't believe in Russia collusion, but you believe in the government colluding

with social media? I think there's some truth to Russia Melanine election I don't think it was enough to overturn an election and I don't think

Donald Trump colluded with Russia Yeah But what he didn't get on Hey, Putin I need y'all to collude mess up this damn election so I can win his left

I don't think that happened Yeah like it But what Facebook and Twitter did to censor Americans to keep stories down that would obviously hurt Joe Biden election And then there's emails

from Biden's administration telling Twitter to take down certain tweets So remove certain posts Those tweets were tweets with Hunter Biden's cock in them. They're not trying to censor news stories. They're not trying to censor.

You can look and go through every single tweet. The laptop story. The laptop story was never directed to be censored by anybody in the White House. That never happened. Although you can read the Twitter files where they're discussing in the emails for what they should do with it. None of it. Yeah, but it was censored. But it wasn't because of anything came with the government.

Because Twitter didn't know if the story was real or not. You don't think Big Tech had ulterior motives? I don't. If they did, then that has never been shown. Come on, David. Politicians lie all the time. Yeah, but we got a whole lot. leaks from the internal communication of Twitter.

None of that ever came out that they were trying to, they had some altering about it. Some of the conversations looked like they genuinely didn't know what they did with the story because it looked fake as fuck. It did. First of all, they said it was fake. Because it looked fake. They said it was Russian misinformation. Definitely

fair. Okay, this is a quick honesty test, okay? Can you admit that that is a sensational fucking story that sounds incredibly fake that Hunter Biden years ago dropped a laptop off at a computer tech repairment shop who is a fucking blind. Who's fucking blind. He's a crazy.

fucking blind, who's fucking blind, and he happened to discover this later and turn it over to Rudy Giuliani? That doesn't sound like a fake fucking story? Yeah, it sounds fake. There we go, okay, that's why he's sensitive. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. This is the hell no, just going to ruin Joe Biden.

Hold on, hold on. So, if it sounds fake, okay, again, remember what I said earlier about COVID and lockdowns and shit? I wouldn't say it sound fake, it sounds crazy. Oh, my God. It's not fake. All right. Come on.

Okay. Fake, his son is a crackhead. I don't think it's a, I don't think he's a, I don't think he's a, It's saying fate. I think it's extraordinary, and it's very damaging to his political opponent. But, no, I don't think. No, that whole Russia collusion. Then they called that Hunter Biden laptop store.

They said that was Russia collusion. It's all bullshit. All these cases against him? It's all bullshit. Yeah. Let's say that that was true. Let's say that Twitter censored it because they just wanted to remove it, okay? And they didn't just take it off Twitter for like one day.

Okay. Why would they just continue to censor? Why would they bring it back after like one day? Because it was proven to be true. But then, no, no, no, no, hold on. If you're saying that they censored it because they wanted to, because they knew it was true, but they wanted to hide it. Why the fuck would they bring it back? The election was over.

The election was over. No, hold on. That laptop story was censored for like a day. That wasn't censored for weeks. It was like a day. No, it was not. It was censored for a lot of concerns. It was, that's not true.

It was one of the most talked about stories going into the election. But it was censored by social media. I don't know about Facebook, but on Twitter, I'm pretty sure it was literally one day that they had suppressed that story because they didn't. know who was really not. Elon Musk wasn't even now yet, man. I know. That shit was censored, bro. Yeah.

All that shit was censored. Yeah. That's why I brought you in the show because I want to hear your respect. I know it's a lot of bullshit on the right, but there's a lot of bullshit on the left, too. What do you trust at the end of the day? How do you figure out who you trust or not? Well, I'm going with the white supremacists. When somebody says, fathers them sons of bitches, he's, that person is not reading from a teleprompter.

Everything he comes off is genuine. Who's not? reading off, Trump reads off a teleprompter, of course he does. No, he's talking about God when they said, if you don't fight that some bitch, you're not getting your billion dollars. Okay. Yeah. On stage representing U.S. foreign policy. Yeah, the money's already promised to them.

It's contention on them cleaning up their prosecutorial system. You don't think Joe Biden and his family abused their power and they, you know, I don't think so. It's possible they have, but I haven't seen it demonstrate. Now more than fuck. How many, why does anybody talking about like Kushner? Yeah. Isn't that interesting that

Kushner was like doing two billion-dollar deals with the Saudis after he was out of office or the fact that Donald Trump was a billionaire who didn't divest from any of his businesses while in office as president the United States? Well, what did he do wrong, though? Yeah. I don't know. I don't you think him being president while owning all of these other... Well, he was a businessman before he came president. Yeah, and he's still a business while president. You don't think it's weird.

Would you want a guy who's like fortune depends on different countries, like making decisions that might be good or bad for those countries? You don't think it's a little weird? Was that before or after he became president Trump? He still had all of the properties while he was president. I get what you're saying, but is there any proof of him doing anything? as much proof as there is between Hunter Biden and Joe Biden doing anything for Trump. No, I'm saying there's as much.

I don't, I personally, I don't think there's been strong proof of that. Yeah, there's nothing. He's perfect. You didn't know that? But there's no proof of the Hunter Joe Biden stuff that's been fucking investigated out the ass by how many different special counsels and how many different fucking subcommittees and how many different fucking things. And the most they got on Hunter Biden is giving him a ticket because they had videos of him

smoking crack when he had a gun. But I strongly believe this. if you take if Joe Biden's not president his son is not getting those positions he knows shit about energy yeah but no shit I'm sure that if you're if your last name is Clinton you're probably getting jobs if your last name is Obama you're probably

getting jobs yeah when you're connected and like super well but it's never a conflict until Joe Biden's son's I don't that's the only thing we're aware of that a family is inert I don't think I don't think there was a conflict but hey maybe something will finally come out with Hunter Biden Biden being doing something bad or illegal and

like related to that so you think Hunter Biden and the buyer's just some noble dudes. Not noble dudes, but I mean, Joe Biden has been a fucking senator for fucking 900 years. I feel like you probably do. I don't like career politicians. Okay. Well, I don't like people that can't be politicians at all. Donald Trump failed fucking miserably for his four years.

We got no good. That's a very horrible opinion, don't think. I mean, it's an opinion. But to say he's horrible? He didn't get anything fucking done. Even if you like Donald Trump, you should be upset with him. We didn't get the wall bill. No infrastructure bill.

Why didn't he get the wall bill? Why? The Democrats wouldn't give him that funny story. Who fucking who? I thought he was a leader that could bring everybody together. He had Congress. He had the Supreme Court. He had the presidency.

He couldn't get anything fucking done. Why is he going to be different next time? Because of Democrats. You think things are great right now with Biden? I think that Biden has passed like four or five massive bipartisan legislator. How about for the American people? Like inflation? I think the Chipsack was good.

Yeah. I think for like, I mean, in terms of inflation all that, I think there's definitely problems. But a lot of this is residual off of COVID as well. And the lockdowns and like all the crazy. government stimulus and everything that had to go out to keep the economy and people like not starving to death. Like notice how every time a Democrat has come into office the last 20 years, we've got to deal with the fucking insane shit left to us by the last administration. Obama had to come in and clean up after the fucking 2007 housing crisis. We had Biden have to come in and clean up after the fucking crazy COVID shit that Trump denied until people were dying in the U.S.

So that was Trump's fault to COVID? I didn't say it was Trump's fault. I'm just saying that when Democrats come into office, we always have to deal with all this crazy shit. Trump fucked up COVID. His response wasn't the best. But it's regardless, I'm just saying that I don't know what a four years of Biden. looks like without COVID. Everybody will look at Trump and say, we can't count the last year. That's not fair because of COVID. But then when you look at Biden, all of his whole presidency

has to come after COVID. The whole fucking world was dealing with it. Dude, I don't even think he's running his country. He's definitely not on Twitter. If you want to say he's not running, that's fine, but whoever's running is doing a better job than Trump did. Like how? Well, we can, legislative-wise. Trump did nothing besides tax cuts. Trump said he was going to give us infrastructure for four years and never happened. Trump said he was going to get the funding for the war from Mexico. What infrastructure you're talking about? So the, Joe Biden passed the massive bipartisan. infrastructure act.

Like, what the fuck's in it, though? How does it change in her? You could go and break. It was the largest investment in alternative energies ever. It was a huge allotment. Like wind and solar. Yeah, like the stuff that's the cheapest form of energy in some states right now that's being a lot of certain grids, right?

We still running on cold and natural. We have to run a little bit on it. Yeah, of course, no shit. We're also the largest exporter and manufacturer of, like, domestic energy that we ever have been in U.S. history in terms of, like, refinery and every stuff for fossil fuels here. We had, there are, like, because of the Chips Act as well, there's like, finally huge manufacturing processing centers

that are being built in the United States that we can start to manufacture some pocket computer chips, which was better than Trump just tariffing China. Yeah, what's up with the pipeline? Why do you think about it and stop that? That pipeline was dead even before... That pipeline was dead before Trump even gave it off. That pipeline's been dead.

Keystone Exile has been dead for a long time. I think it formally got axed under Biden, but that pipeline's been dead forever. If we would have went through with that, gas price would be a lot cheaper than America. I don't know how much it would be impacted right now. I'm not sure. We are ready...

We are already producing more energy domestic, I think then we have in the history of all the United States. We already are energy independent. We are. I thought gas prices through the roof there. I don't fucking know. Gas is complicated. Do you think that just because we, if we would have had just the pipeline, that that would have been all of our gas prices coming down? It would have helped.

It would have a lot. You know that, like, we don't pull gas out of the ground, right? Like, it's crude oil, and then it's got to be refined and then the products are shipped around to different areas and different stuff. Yeah, I don't know how much, like, more crude. Like, we're producing a fucking shit. You're going to bring a book to that black shit Canada into America

Yeah but that shit sucks Isn't it it? It's like sandy and nasty You gotta like scrub it like All over here Not no that's not true When you go to Saudi Arabia You can drink that shit out of the fucking ground Okay as a fucking pre-workout

It's some pure you take it out You scrape it you can fucking yeah right ready to go What don't we just get from Russia This gives us good prices From I don't know I don't think I don't know if the oil in Russia That drove up the price of it too I'm pretty sure that the isn't

Don't we get most of it from like Canada Like South America like Venezuela that was sitting on a ton of it. We might have gotten it some of it. I think Europe's more reliant on Russia for energy than the United States. Yeah, we just get some Russian oil. I heard that some good shit. If you look up like Russian oil or oil imports by country in the United States,

I thought like Canada and Venezuela were the two biggest ones. Is it really Russia? Yeah, we was getting it. When the war broke out, they stopped. We're not getting any more oil from that killer. I was like, he's been a killer for decades, y'all. All of a sudden, you don't want his oil. All of a sudden, he started invading countries and taking their fucking territory, so it's not good.

He should have kept his dick in his pants. Hey, so you don't think it's nothing Trump did right? There's nothing Trump did right. I'm sure we could find some things. Like in general, like I'm, I do think we need a stronger border policy. I think the idea that we kind of like leave it whatever I think it's kind of done. You've got to give them that. It's so fucked up down there.

Give them something, man. The problem is that like his approach to the border is like childlike. What we need is like comprehensive border immigration reform, not just like a bigger wall. But what you say was childlike? As in like we're not doing anything. What about people? overstaying visas. That's like 50% of illegals right there. Donald Trump did nothing for that. A majority of

people that is in our country illegally is coming through that Southern border. I want to just ask you this on. Like when you say Trump did a horrible job, there's nothing you could pick out during his administration? Like I did, he did some reform with convicted

felons of non-violent that he got released. Yeah, I think it was called the first step back. I think it was probably okay, but I don't know if that actually got funded when they were finally doing the funding for it. I'd have to go if I can check out. The first step to act was probably okay. The biggest issue with Trump, and the reason why I say, like, everything is horrible

is because at the start, I think the most important job of your president is to be like your country's cheerleader. This is the guy that's supposed to represent. All of you bring you together. He is like, when people think of the United States, they think of, like, the U.S. president. Like, this is our guy that's facing everybody.

And I just felt like he was so unbelievably divisive that that divisiveness rolled over into every other policy that he wanted to get like that. You don't think Joe Biden was divisive? Not even, no. I mean, I can point to a result. We can all say, and I know you're going to say, what about the one speech with the red things in the background?

That shit was crazy. Yeah, that's fine. Donald Trump is literally known for giving his opponent's nicknames. Okay? That's his thing, sleeping with Joe Biden, corrupt Ted crew, whatever the fuck. Yeah.

No, nobody even comes close to Donald Trump's level of debate. Donald Trump's literally on, you guys are talking about like, what if Biden called New York State and told him to prosecute? Donald Trump's literally calling into Fox and friends saying, like, I think the DOJ needs to look into Joe Biden, like literally on public TV. I think of some of those people that's prosecuting was on his administration.

Who? The judge. He didn't recuse himself. was on actual administration. I don't think he was. Somebody, Laura Lumer, fell for a rumor that the judge's daughter was some activist, but that Twitter account wasn't even that judge's daughter.

If you're talking about the one in New York. You don't find it's extremely suspicious that Joe Biden's number one competitor this got over. How many indicts me against him? I mean, it looks weird, but also Donald Trump engaged in a lot of a historic behavior that was not fucking believable. It's not a crime of being a prostitute. I mean, it's not a crime.

He's not being charged with banging process. He's being charged with lying about record keeping in Tick-to-Kin. How do you lie about? By having Cohen his lawyer. By having Cohen, his lawyer say that like, oh, this is like a personal payment that I made to somebody. But it wasn't. It was made on behalf of Donald Trump, which should have been a campaign congregation. Who made the payment?

Donald Trump did. He paid on Cohen to make it. Well, first of all, we're assuming that he's guilty. We got to let the legal. Well, no, I'm kidding. These are what he's alleged of doing. Yeah. But also, this is the weakest case.

The Mar-a-Lago documents case is crazy. The Georgia Rico and the federal case is. about the trying to steal the election. These are crazy cases where the fact pattern is way more damning than the New York one, which I already think is like a decently strong case. The other three are unhinged. Yeah. So you think he's going to be convicted?

Nobody knows at this point. Nobody knows anything because maybe wins the election. Hey, OJ got off. Trump's got a shot. He does. He's got to beat a lot of them though. OJ only had to beat one case. Trump's got four.

So you take in the world Biden just seemed better than Trump from the world. from the world's perspective. I think so, yeah. Yeah. Some senile old guy just falling down, stuttering constantly. Better than having the first president

in the history of the entire country that saluted another military, which was Donald Trump when he went to visit fucking North Korea and he fucking saluted their soldiers. Yeah, I think that people see,

yes, he did do that and yes, that was a fucking joke. And also, we got nothing from North Korea for those meetings. So, yeah, I think people see Biden is a more serious person. I guarantee you, Stephen. You take a blundice tape of Trump

and a bluntest tape of Joe. Biden, who you think's going to win that? A blunders tape? Yeah. Of all the stupid shit you've ever done why you've said and dead and falling and just... Who do you think is going to look worse? One guy I've got Biden that makes a lot of embarrassing gas and seems to forget what he's saying. On the other side, I've got Donald Trump who thinks that planes are actually invisible, like in Wonder Woman, that maybe injecting bleach might be a good way to cure ourselves of certain viruses.

And who says that, you know, if you're famous enough women, we'll just let you grab them by the pussy. Don't you think that some of the things that Joe Biden has been, I mean, that Donald Trump has said has been kind of embellished and taken out of context. You can't say that for Joe Biden. He says some crazy stuff. You don't even have to embellish on it. Donald Trump's stuff is, you know. Donald Trump's position. I mean, I agree.

He said some crazy things on Twitter. His policies were really bad, too, though. Like, why is it that if Donald Trump's such a good fucking leader, why couldn't he pass any major legislation? Like Biden couldn't have the more divided Congress? He didn't have the votes than the Congress. Isn't that his job as president? Yeah, but it's this country sort of about it. Well, hold on. And they never gave him a chance out of it. How is it that in a more divided Congress, Biden passed more by person. It was more divided when Trump was in. So as he got elected, what did that chick up in our, what's her name, Liba Caliba? They said, we're going to impeach his ass. He just got in office and they were already going to do it. I don't think they gave him as much of an opportunity.

When Obama was in office, McConnell was saying our goal is to make him a one-term president. We are going to reject every single possible bill that comes from the House as Obama's in president. They said they were going to impeach him and they did it twice. Yeah. He didn't do shit. He did January 6th, and he did the Zelensky call. He should have done either of those things. When you think they said he was responsible for the majority of the COVID deaths in the United States, I don't know who said that. If somebody said that, I would disagree with it.

Yeah, they blame them. I don't know who they is. I don't know if they did. The media. Joe Biden. If somebody said it, I would disagree with it, but I'd have to see the choice. Joe Biden said if he'd have told people to wear a mask, which he didn't, he never told people not to wear a mask. Donald Trump denied that COVID was even in the U.S.

until like a month in, until, like, we all saw him on Twitter every day saying, like, ah, there's only six cases here when there were probably tens of thousands. Yeah, nobody accepted it, though. What do you mean? The whole world of the WHO, people had already called, like, a global fucking, uh. Well, he went to ban flights from China where it originated. Yeah, after the WHO, like, right as they said. Why did Democrats knock him for that?

Yeah, they said it's xenophobic. They didn't knock him for banning flights. They knocked him for things like, like the people in the White House calling it the Kung Flu and for the weird rhetoric on, like, 20s people. It's a China virus. Yeah, but Pelosi. he said, go down to Chinatown and give people hugs. They said some very reckless things.

Why should it all fall? Why that burden should just fall on one man to press? I mean, the virus isn't originally. It doesn't have to fall on one man, but the Donald Trump was the president of the United States, and he was lying to us about how prevalent the virus was in the United States because he wanted to look good politically. That's wild. I should make everybody upset. That's an opinion. Well, no, it's not an opinion. He's on stage saying there are six cases here. It's not a big problem. We knew there were tens of thousands of cases here. No, I think he reported as they came in.

There's literally, who was the guy... They started having the press conference. Was it Woodward who wrote the book that literally was talking about, like Donald Trump in the White House saying like, fuck, like, I can't, like, we can't talk about how many cases are. It's going to cause a panic or like people are going to look poorly upon us. And like Donald Trump knew. Everybody knew. Everybody knew. Yeah, everybody knew.

Why didn't he say anything? I think everybody was. People were upset that Donald Trump was downplaying him. There were thousands of people that were sick in New York City and shit. And yeah, Donald was like, nah, didn't Trump get a boat there? A medical boat? He might have eventually. And he came with the vaccine.

I mean, it's like, he can do no right. It's like I bring up the shit you say about New York. Everybody said, he got a boat there. Oh, he got it there eventually. I mean, these things take time. It's like you're being more pessimistic. If you fuck up, if you fuck up over and over again and you just try to make right out, you've gotten called out on it over and over again, like, imagine your, are you both

married? Yeah. Imagine, you know, you forget your wife's birthday. And then you bring her a cake the next day. And she's like, what the fuck? And you're like, I got it eventually, didn't I? This is bullshit. That shit doesn't work.

That doesn't fly. The next fucking day, didn't get a boat there eventually after spending a month on Twitter saying it wasn't real. It took them two days to get a boat there. After we, yeah, once the United States, once the U.S. decides we want to do something,

we do it really well. But when we're in denial, we can't get anything fucking done. And Donald Trump said a lot of time keeping us in denial about the disease here. I think you embody what, and I think all of us embody what's really wrong with this country. I agree with that. Yeah.

finally we agree on something. We're not willing to work together and hold people accountable. I will work that. That's why these people can do whatever fuck they want. Joe Biden is literally passing legislation in Congress

working together with Democrats and Republicans to do it. That doesn't count. Joe Biden has had no effect on my life. Absolutely none. That's because we're rich. Who the fuck cares who's in office? I'm talking about the everyday,

man. He's done nothing to help the everyday. You don't think the fucking, you don't think all the COVID stimulus and everything. $1,200 check. And unemployment insurance, where there were people making more money not working than when they were working? They had to do it because they said we couldn't work. Holden, you just went from saying he didn't do shit to, well, they had to do this.

So they didn't have to do anything. But he told people they couldn't work, which was unconstitutional. So you have to do that. You have to do that. You have to do that. I'm not going to do that. Sure. But I mean, like the flip side is you've got people like China, who, by the way, rejected our MRNA vaccines.

They don't like them. And they had to lock their economy down over and over and over and over again because many fucking people get sick. If China don't like the vaccines, I'm very literally. that damn vaccine now. Yeah, but then look at their society and how they had to play out it afterwards because their vaccines suck so much cock. They need to keep locking their shit down.

All these vaccines sucked. You want to make fun of, or you want to say China didn't trust it or whatever. They literally have videos of them like fucking sealing people into their fucking department. It's not letting them out. Yeah, yeah, I saw that. And you know what?

If it wasn't for Republicans, we'd still be locked down. That's true. You know? I don't think. One of the first states to open up was Texas for. We're embellishing, but the lockdowns would have went a lot longer. If it wasn't for that shit crazy Republicans,

one to go out and just lived a lot of it. Do you actually think the mask actually work? They did. Dude, that tastes like a busted condo. You know what? I bet with a busted condom, we got less of a chance of getting a bitch pregnant. Then if you just pull on a nutter, I bet you do. Listen, if you pull out with a busted condom and half your loads,

that's half your swimmers, okay? That's half your swimmers that didn't make it inside that woman, okay? That's a lot of virus. That is a lot of virus she left in there now. That's a whole lot of. I mean, like, during the lockdown. and the masking. It wasn't an earthquake.

They were like whole strains of the flu that died. Like look at the influenza deaths. Yeah, COVID killed the flu. Look at the, no, it was the fucking distancing in the lockdowns and shit.

It wasn't enough to stop COVID, but you had a lot less like influenza transitions. Actually help prevent you. So the bars can only travel six feet at a time? It can only, how far can you fucking sneeze? Well, you know how bar is like you get sick, right? There's a virus that I pick it up.

Oh, shit. That's how you get it. Like walking six feet and stopping him staying six feet from him doesn't prevent you from getting the bars. It's like pseudoscience. It's bullshit. It's pseudoscience?

If I stand right next to you and I fucking let off the loudest fucking fart, rip the fattest ass. You don't think you can smell that more of your six feet away from me? Yeah, I'm going to smell it, but I'm not going to get sick. Hold on. If you're smelling it, then there's some shit that's obviously never going to smell. Can you smell a guy if he rips ass? No answer me this fucking question.

If there's a guy he rips ass six feet from you outside, can you smell that ass rip? Yep. So I agree with you. I agree with you. I can smell 10 feet away. I agree with you. It's going to be 10 feet? I agree with you.

I'm just trying to figure out if you, if somebody ripping out next to you is more potent than somebody sneezing a fucking virus than you. I don't understand that. If you stand the fuck away for somebody that they sneeze, probably looks like to get you to go to you. I agree with you. I agree with you.

Well, if I'm wearing that same mask, is it going to prevent me from contracting a virus if I can smell a dude's fart? You could probably, not have you six feet away from you. Not to be six feet away from you. Dude, that mask is. Why don't you think they, Since people are wearing masks, why don't you think they told people a couple of eyes, too?

Because you can get a virus through your eyes just like up through the eyes. It was about transmitting. It wasn't about receiving. I think it was the bigger thing, right? You don't breathe out your eyes. No, the virus. You can get sick by the- No, no, you can.

But, like, the point of the mask was ideally, like, if you were sick, you'd be breathing out less of the virus to everybody. Yeah. And you'd keep you from, like, supposedly breathing in the virus too. Well, I mean, you're probably getting somebody, I mean, like, that might help a little bit. But, like, for your eyes, it's not like you're not transmitting the virus from your eyeballs. No, but you can get the virus. You could.

Yeah. I mean, if you want to put on a whole, there were people that walked around with a full among a suits on with the full, but if you wanted to it. I'm just trying to expose

to hypocrisy. Like, you got people wearing a mask, but if you really want to protect people, wouldn't you tell them to cover the eyes? It's not hypocrisy. It's you're trying to think of a thing that's effective,

but also as a reasonable level of uptake. So let's say we would have said, well, you know, it would have really prevented the virus is if we did 50 feet social distancing. Well, but nobody's going to, you can all stand 50 feet away

from each other. And if you start mandating and saying, Like, we got to wear a mask. And people probably aren't going to fucking. But even having said that, once you get, if you're standing 50 feet from people, which is ridiculous, right? Eventually, you're going to be standing the exact same spot as the person who had the virus. Yeah, sure.

But if they breathe and it's falling to the ground, it's not like floating around. This whole conversation is bullshit. I just want to say this. I mean, if they were really sincere about the fucking mask. Yeah. Why the fuck do doctors wear masks in operating rooms? Like, they would have prevented from them coughing or spreading disease because the damn person's wide open. They're doing surgery.

That's why. Okay, but like, aren't they laying where some other guy was breathing before? Yeah, yeah. But I don't think those masks was never intended to prevent you. All I'm saying is that if you rip ass in a fucking operating room, I bet that dude's hard is going to smell like shit. If you can smell a fart, if you can smell a dude's butthole through a mask,

it's not helping you. It's not going to, it's not going to prevent you from getting the car. It's getting it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And your eyes, you can get, that's how you get infected. You can, if somebody, fuck it.

Yeah, nothing's going to prevent you from rubbing your eyes on some shit. Yeah, I mean, somebody sneezes and the mask catches it. It doesn't get through. You're all surprised. You're going to get sick. I think that, that, that, that, why didn't they push goggles? But, okay, let me talk.

The mask, I think it was a carrier for the virus. Okay. Because you, you're going home, let's say it catches the virus. You walk home, take the shit home in your family. You're an outbreak monkey. I just think the mask was ridiculous. I think the shutdowns was ridiculous. I think telling them private business.

They couldn't work. Is there anything you can do to reduce the likelihood of getting a disease? No, you can't hide from a virus. There's nothing you can do. Let me ask you this question. Let's say, okay, the mortality rate on this virus was like less than tenths of a percent, right? It was low, yeah. Yeah, it was real low.

Let's say this mortality rate of COVID was 88%. And they're like, all right, everybody puts your mask on and go outside. Are you going outside with just that mask on? The mortality rate is 80 in my fucking house. At 88%, probably not. Yeah, I'm not leaving. But at 88% I'm probably wearing a whole bunch of shit

I'm not saying like, well, there's nothing I can do to prevent myself from getting it anyway, right? Yeah. Would you be comfortable with that mask?

With just the mask? No. Yeah. But the mask, the goal isn't to prevent 100% of all possible fucking... You're gonna fucking die.

That mortality rate is 88% you're gonna die. That mask is not gonna save you. Yeah, but you already have people that don't want to wear a mask at all. And now you're saying

we should have had them wearing goggles and every fucking other thing too. No, I'm not saying it at all. I'm just exposes the, the hypocrisy. It's not the hypocrisy.

It wasn't about TP from getting sick. It was about control. No, it was about taking reasonable steps to how, like, what is the uptake on a particular thing

that people are willing to do? Nobody's walking around with fucking goggles outside. People already didn't like the mask. Just walk around with the mask. Yeah, but that's a lot. Half the people didn't even wear the fucking mask. I guarantee you,

walking around the mask like this everywhere. Steven, I guarantee you, if they came out and said, wear the goggles, Democrats would walk around and they were going swimming. I guarantee you. team. Everybody, all

the Democrats have been wearing goggles. I think Democrats wearing three masks. You're not telling me... It's possible. I mean, when people say dumb shit, people do dumb shit. You had people dying from eating fucking horse space because people thought Ivermectin was going to save him from fucking COVID. And you had conservatives dying of COVID more than fucking Democrats because they don't want to get

fucking vaccinated. So you know what? Maybe Democrats would have walked around the goggles. You don't think what's true? I don't think what's true. I don't think more Republicans have dying. Okay. Well, look it up. It is true. That's like an undisputed fact at this point. Nobody argues this. But Republicans are older. Yeah. That sounds like a really good, even if you control for age,

they were more of them because they looked at age. They looked at obesity. But listen, even there's an even better reason to get vaccinated. Just because you have correlates, I mean, that's the causation. You got to take into consideration of age. Republicans are. Oh, now our science caps are on. Oh, okay.

Hold on. I'm just saying. Now we've got the, well, if you look at the perspective, randomized control trial, research with a double blind configuration. But before it was, if I could smell a fart through my mask, it's not doing shit for me. Okay, I see how it is. I'm just saying a dude down at 86 Republican and a person died at the age of 20s. You compare to that.

The Democrat voters are typically younger. Yeah. I don't even know that's true, but. Oh, man, like college eggs kids? Those motherfuckers don't vote. Yeah. They don't vote at all. They fucking protest, though.

Yeah, they do. And you can look up their voting records and state where they get arrested. 90% of the motherfuckers are going to arrest. arrested to vote. Hey, let me say this. What do you think happens if Trump wins the election? I have no fucking idea.

Nobody knows. Everybody is praying, like, all the institutionalist cucks like me are all just praying that he doesn't win. Because the weird thing is that if he does win, regardless of how you feel about it on policy or not, nobody knows what it looks like when a president is being charged by crimes

by his own, the federal government, and by states. Nobody has any idea what that looks like. He just pardon himself. Well, but he can't pardon himself from the state charges. So that's the weird part. That's weird. So then what? Is Georgia and New York?

Are they going to send their police up to D.C. to fight the National Guard? They can pardon people, state charges? When you governors can pardon from state charges and for the federal government, the president, because it's the president, the executive branch is the president at the top. And then you've got the Department of Justice here. And then they do like all the prosecutorial stuff. So if they're prosecuting, it's technically under the president.

The president can say, hey, stop doing that. And then they have to stop. But states are totally separate from the federal government. It's its own fuck. That's why some states say like, oh, you want to smoke marijuana here, go for. for it and an FBI agent could come in a state where it's legalism like marijuana and arrest you for it. They say it's a strong that those state crimes being brought towards them.

It should be federal. It should be handled federally. For that reason you get said. Jurisdiction is a complicated. Yeah. Like people don't realize this, but the vast majority of crimes in the United States are state crimes. When you murder somebody, that's not a federal charge.

That's going to be a state that's prosecuting you for murder or rape or any of these other things. Hey, let me ask you this. What's your take on January 6th? Was that a riot or was it? insurrection. Insurrection. Call that an insurrection.

Dude. Let me say this. Okay, Republicans are gun nuts. I think there was like 3,000 Republicans there. That's about 15,000 guns if they took them there. Yeah. I think if it was a... There was an intent.

If that was an intent for an insurrection, these gun nuts, which Republicans are, they would have shut that place up. Yeah. It would be bodies. People would be dead. They might have been able to go harder, but their goal was to disrupt the electoral vote count,

and they broke into Congress. They managed to do just that. And then eventually they left. I think it was there to protest. You can call it a protest, but what do you call a protest where you break into a place? It's a riot now. Some people will let in.

What they might have been after, but they'd already broken first, so it doesn't matter. I've seen police officers actually escorting a guy in. They called him, well, I forget his name, but they actually escorted him into one of the offices. He said a prayer and they arrested him, and he gave him how many years. I've seen a guy crushing a glass jar with his rectum and bleed all over the fucking internet. I don't care.

That's an insurrection right there. I don't know what the fuck does to do anything. The reality is, the first people into the Capitol building, the first people, I think I said the White House are. The first people into the Capitol building, they broke in. I don't think you can call it an insurrection. Okay. You know why? Why?

No one's been charged with it. That doesn't, I don't think anybody's ever been charged with insurrection. I think, yeah, I think. So what do you call it that? Nobody's also been charged with genocide by the, or nobody's been convicted of genocide. Well, we talk about insurrection here. Let's stop conflate shit. Sure.

Nobody's been, yeah, we don't have a, we don't really have like an insurrection in charge. I think that was just political hypervilee from the left. I'm Democrat. The cold letter insurrection is just... Do you think that people protested on January 6th? I think that that was the intent to protest, not to take over the government. Did people break into the Capitol House? Yeah.

Yeah. Did they delay the certification of the election? They did. Okay. Did they? I think a lot of people did they had to seek cover. Yeah. So, and why did they go down to the Capitol building?

I'd protest. Protest what? The election. So they went to the Capitol building to protest the election. They broke into the Capitol building and they delayed the certification of the election. What are we missing for it to be an interaction? Like, what are we missing at that point? It was protests and election because they think the election was unfair.

Correct. So they wanted to overturn the election because they didn't believe in it. So people go to the Capitol Building because they don't believe in the election. They break in. They delay the certification of the vote. What else do we need for it to be an insurrection at that point? An insurrection is taking over the government. Yeah.

Yeah, that's what they, for eight hours or whatever, how many hours? Their books are old. It doesn't matter who they are. It doesn't mean, there's no rule that says, old people can't do an insurrection. What I'm saying is they don't have no guns. You're not taking over the most powerful government in the world with no guns. There would be a plot.

It could be a failed insurrection. It's just a bunch of angry people that lost their freaking cool. And it was a riot. There would be more of a plot. There would be a plan. It was just a bunch of people. Well, the plot or plan was on Donald Trump's side is where he was trying to call people and get them to not vote. And then the whole thing he was trying to do with Pence to get him to overturn it in Congress and say, well, no, we're not going to count the votes and we're just going to make me president again.

That would have been like the plotted side of the insurrection. Well, what he wanted. it Pence to do. It's somewhere in the Constitution. It's not. It's somewhere in the Constitution. They can They can investigate. That's what I heard. I don't know if it's true or not. But I'm just sharing what other people on the right was saying that. He could

actually stop it and then they could investigate the voter fraud. Yeah. That they hadn't found and it lost in every single court case. Yeah. Yeah. That Donald Trump's own Attorney General and campaign staff and White House staff were telling him wasn't real. That kind of sounds like an insurrection.

Nobody's been talking about it. That's right. It's not answer it. Yeah. A bunch of angry people got picked up. It was a riot at the Capitol. Yeah. A riot at the Capitol for the purposes of undoing the last vote.

And it could have been prevented if Pelosi would, took the troops, the National Guard that was promised her. She said, no, we don't need that. It could have also been prevented if Donald Trump wouldn't have given a speech one mile away, telling everybody that we need to fight. He said fight like hell. He said fight like hell. He said they're stealing your government from me.

They're stealing your country from. You think all the people that marched, all of them just misunderstood? No, I'm just telling you what Trump said. He said, go. and be peaceful. Why would you, what, but they were going to

protest the results of the election. He said, be peaceful. He didn't say, go down, turn that bitch down. We're taking the country back.

He said, fight like hell, you're going to lose your country. Yeah, but that's, he speaks, it's figuratively. He didn't.

The people that broke into the capital building, he didn't take it figured away. Maxine Waters said the same thing about repugments.

If you see them in a restaurant, push back on them, tell them they're unwanted. Is she encouraging an insurrection? Nothing about it. an insurrection. Maybe encouraging harassment or assault maybe. She encouraged people to harass people. But I think that was in response to people telling you you don't agree with their views

or whatever. I don't think that had to do with attacking people. Was she telling people to attack people? Yeah. So, yeah. Trump, what he said was wrong? Maxine Waters? Totally fun. It's totally fun. I would have to hear that Maxine Waters quote. You should never be telling people to harass people out. Like in, uh, fucking anywhere. They can look it up. She said it. Okay. He was still in Trump. He never said

go down there and burn the place down. He said fight like hell, didn't he? Yeah. But he did say fight like hell, right? Did he say that? I don't know. I mean, you said that's a whole hour. We're a long piece. He said, fight like hell. But in the context of this conversation, yeah.

People were not on an impression to go there and tear the place to have to exactly know what they did. If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. The people are going to turn on them. They're going to protest.

They're going to absolutely harass them until they, decide that they're going to tell the president, no, I can't hang with you. Not in the U.S. There's my guy. I think it's bad. I don't like it, but nothing that she said, nothing about that is illegal. You can protest people outside. That was illegal and what she said was not illegal?

I don't know if what Trump said was illegal. You said it was an insurrection. He said he said it was an insurrection. Hold on. Hold on. Let's be very clear. Let's understand what I said, okay? I said that Trump told those people to fight like hell. and what happened was an insurrection. Did Trump engage in, like, incitement to violence that would pass, like, the Brandenburg v. Ohio standard or whatever? Like, I'm not entirely sure.

He's not being charged with an excitement, though, thankfully. So we don't even have to ask that question. Whether or not what happened was an insurrection is a separate question from whether or not did Donald Trump, like, engage in illegally insightful behavior. But I do think that Donald Trump gave a message that you need to go down and you need to protest the election. And I think that his followers heard it loud and clear, and they all marched down there. And what resulted from that was an insurrection. Maybe Donald Trump didn't necessarily tell them to engage in it. Maybe people didn't go necessarily thinking about that.

But all the elements were there. And then once it was there, that's what it developed into. Yeah. But you said he didn't encourage that. I think he encouraged it, but you got to be really careful. There's different questions when you say like, if I tell, like, if I stand up and I say, like, there's a couple of boys down at the end of the street. We know these people hate America and blah, blah, blah.

And everybody marches over and eventually they get into a fight with them and they kill them. I cause that to happen. But if you're going to ask me in a legal sense, I don't think that that speech would qualify as like an incitement. because there's like an imminent loss. You're coming around, man. Well, but I'm just saying those are two. The legal question is fundamentally separate from like the more laymen's or more. Like, I think Donald Trump is absolutely responsible for the insurrection that happened at the Capitol Building.

But I don't know, like, I don't think I would legally say he engaged in insightful, like, speech, because that's a really scary thing. He's innocent. He didn't. And that wasn't an insurrection. There's some people. I don't think it was some people got out of hand and it should be held. Some bad apples. Lots of them.

I mean, it was a lot of them. It was some crazy shit. I'm not saying it wasn't. crazy. That's shit a crazy. If I was there, I'll be like, you white people are crazy. I'm leaving. I'm not going to jail. No, I'm not denying that. But to call it an insurrection like they were really going to take over the United States government. I don't think.

Not every insurrection has to be successful. Yeah. I mean, even if it's not successful, I mean, these are gun nuts. If they were going to go take over our government, there was like, what? It would have been a lot of people. I think they were waiting for Donald Trump to do something. They were waiting to show up. Do what?

What the fuck? No, Donald. He wanted to go down. there initially and it was a secret service told him fuck no you're not going down there he wanted to go down in a motorcade to be why did he want to go down now probably to fucking cheer them on he would because i was fucking ericorne or some shit he was going to march in with his army of the undead okay as a fat fucking conservative people who wanted dying a fucking methamphetamine overdoses on the fucking lawn do you think it's the possibility he wanted to remain peaceful

no fuck no absolutely fucking not and you know that because when fucking uh was it it wasn't mcconnell was McCarthy when he fucking called trump that was one of the recorded phone calls and he was like, yo, you need to call these motherfuckers off. They're killing because the Donald Trump was like, looks like they're a lot more upset about the election being stolen than you were a motherfucker. And he fucking, yeah, that was a conversation. That doesn't seem like a guy who wanted them to be peaceful. But do Democrats call people when their constituents get out of hand?

Like, Lexington waters. Sure. You said then saw it. Did anybody call and tell her to apologize? I don't know if anybody got attacked or assaulted as a result of what she said on the restaurant. You saw a restaurant. There was Republicans at restaurants. You're allowed to do that.

You're allowed to protest outside restaurants. I don't like her calling for like predestined individuals like that But you're allowed to do that Your Constitution Projectives Like if Trump did what Maxine Waters did The Capitol Yeah that's the insurrection

Yeah Well if somebody marches on government property And they try to disrupt the lawful order of government Then yeah I would say it probably is I think it's a significant difference He says fight like hell But he was Maybe he's wrong words he

Okay that is exactly what his people did Right But what do you think If you tell people your election is being stolen Your country's being stolen from you What do you think they're going to do Protest peacefully like a cuck? You're going to say, like, oh, they're stealing our election, but I'm holding the sign.

He said, of course you want to go fight, like, right? He said, be peaceful. And he said, fight like hell. Yeah. At the end of a speech, he said, but go, he told everybody about be peaceful. He did. He told him to fight like hell and they're stealing your country from you. But I think what you could take what Maxine said and say, hey, she's actually condoned in violence.

I mean, like, you being a liberal, I've been conservative. For me to see you in a restaurant and harass you while you with your spouse or your girlfriend, that's just wrong. I agree. I think, well, I don't think it's good. but is it wrong? I mean, we have the right to do that. That is our First Amendment right in the United States. The restaurant could kick you out.

I think we should have a moral competence when it comes to when the protests and when not protest. When I'm inside of a restaurant with my wife, I don't want to be harassed. I don't necessarily disagree. That's why I said. I don't think I don't like her statements. I think it's a little bit too, you're like making people too crazy. Yeah, I think you open up a can of worms because I don't want you protesting like that. I shouldn't be protesting.

No human beings should be prostit for their own, for their opinions. That's the position I stand. It was crazy. it was crazy Like you have a bias I have a bias You have a bias You have a bias as a Democrat

We have a bias as a public And that's why we have this disconnect We see things differently Yeah Just like George Floyd Like what happened People see it differently Because of race

Politics or whatever It's because of our biases But it's like The shit Just come out of your mouth It's bullshit True I just feel like

It's bullshit It's like I think you just rooting for your guy. And it's nothing wrong with that. Like if there was a real insurrection at the, I was like, man, that was wrong. That was guns there.

I would call it all day. That was an insurrection. And there was some bad apples and it was totally wrong. Here's, okay, listen, here's the reality. If you want to judge it, okay? If you want to know, like, what's the bullshit or what's not, okay? The reality is is, like, do you guys have any idea what qualifies as an insurrection in the United States? Do you know the historical standards for insurrection? Do you know the debates

around what would have been considered an insurrection? Or the historical arguments related to section 3 of the Fourth of the Amendment relating to insurrection. What's the requirements? These are all things that have been like hotly contested in our nation's history.

Paulson and Broad wrote a huge, or not a huge, it was like a hundred page paper over like what they considered like insurrectionist behavior or whatever. And you can go through and you can analyze the standards that people that are trying to like it's been a while since I've read this paper at this point. But like if you've got people that are engaged in violent action and their goal is to circumvent

some like necessary, obvious part that is like foundational to the government or whatever, it's probably an insurrection. You would say this every time. So if you've got people outside protests, like a traffic cop, probably not an insurrection, even if they're being violent,

because it's traffic, it's not like some fun of it. But if there are people like City Hall trying to prevent somebody from being elected or trying to prevent, like, Congress from ever voting a legislation or something like that,

that seems like that would probably qualify as an insurrection. So like, I can back all of these up with like factual historical arguments. I'm not just going on my feelings here. So I haven't said all that, but I haven't said all that, even with that said,

why hasn't anybody been charged? Because insurrection is not a criminal charge in the United States. There is one criminal charge, one criminal statute for having engaged in insurrection, but nobody's even used that charge, so we don't really know what it would even look like in application. People's been charged in the past for that, right?

I don't believe so. The Confederacy. They came up, I forget the amendment. They, they was charged with an insurrection and overturned our government, and it was banned from the president. When people came in, because it was so messy, like, and during reconstruction, a lot of these people were forgiven. Like, there were a huge blanket things like, listen, if you guys

did some shit, like fuck it before the state or whatever, like we're just going to whatever because we don't want to deal with it. So these are like really challenging questions that haven't been dealt with directly before. When people say like, isn't it weird that Donald Trump's being treated this way and isn't this kind of crazy, it is crazy, but we've never had a president engaged in that behavior before to try to steal an election, which is what he tried to do, like three different ways. Question the results of elections, not stealing. That's not what he's getting charged for crimes for.

Well, he's got to get, we're assuming that he's guilty. Well, I'm just saying in terms of what's being laid out in the indictments. Donald Trump tried to get seven different sets of people in seven different states to lie and say that they had the certified electoral vote. He did. I mean, that's not even denied at this point. Yeah, we'll see in the crowd of. Okay.

Let's just wait to the crowd. You might be right. If he did do that, do you agree that that's probably bad? Probably... That's horrible. Yeah. Yeah. But let's see.

If he gets locked up, you go, yep, you see? What's going on? Hey, your boy was an ex-er-ro. I hope that he goes to prison before the nuclear weapons come fucking flying off our gas. I mean, that's what he did. Yeah. fucking crazy I'm gonna be at the fucking gender clinic with my 15-year-old son

slash daughter looking at the fucking TV who's at the CNN of the Fox News to see who's calling who first time yeah yeah it's a bunch of bullshit we'll see we'll see I don't know I mean I'm a Trump guy

I think I don't know if my boss is dictating how I think but I think the majority of the things that's been brought against him, I think his exaggerations and embellishments and most of it's hyperbole. And I think it's all for political game. I think he's his biggest rival

and they're trying to eliminate that. I'm not trying to push too hard, but like, have you, like, you've seen it have a pretty strong opinion on this, right? Yeah. Have you read any of the actual indictments? The case, the corruption case, about the...

Actually, I have not read anything, but when you have Russia collusion, that was proven to be bullshit. Yeah, but you don't know what even came out of them on the moment. Then you impeached for shit and says, quit pro-calling you impeaching for bullshit that he never did. Right. I just, I don't believe in it.

Okay, well, here's so you think the Russia collusion was bullshit, right? Yeah. Do you agree that the Hillary Benghazi stuff was bullshit? No one got charged with that. I've actually, people who came out of kind of shows, and they strongly dislike her. It said that she actually got their. Got people for murder. Yeah.

So even though the system, so the system acquitted her of that, but you don't trust the system. But you do trust the system when they said no Russia collusion. Well, not system's corrupt as hell. But if the system is corrupt as hell, then wouldn't it make more sense that Donald Trump did collude with Russia, but he was able to cover it up because he was the president of the United States? That whole Russia misinformation, him colluding with Russia. That's just a farce. I'm trying to, I'm trying to mind. I'm trying to figure out because it feels like you pick and choose what you want to believe based on. We both are doing that. Well, but I can give you, I'll consistently believe or disbelieve.

I'm going to wait to see how the court cases go. When this nigger get acquitted, I'm telling you. So you think that the Hillary email stuff was fine? She didn't get charged with any crimes, right? I think it's just a double standard. I look at it from like this point of view. Both sides lie. And I think a majority of the times when they're lying,

it's all for self-political interests. And nobody, because you might have a bias, and I might have a bias, we're not able to see through the bullshit. I think there's some bullshit on Biden side, and I think there's some bullshit on Trump side. But I think a majority of it is coming from the left. Okay.

I'm not saying Trump. is the nicest guy. That's not why I support him. He's not perfect. I like him because he's brutally honest. He's not a puppet. He's not a politician. When he says something, I actually genuinely think he's being sincere because no normal human being would say half the shit he said.

You know what I'm saying? We'll see what happens, I guess. Yeah. So I'm going to call you up. You don't get acquitted and shit. I'm definitely calling you election night. I'm going to be watching that shit on CNN. I said CNN just called it.

You know, You better make sure you do it before all the, or after all the fucking mail-in votes come in, though. You know what? Hey, hey, you know what? During the election? You don't want me calling you back at fucking 4.30 a.m. Wake up, motherfucker. Sorry.

Hey, during the election, why don't you come back and we live-streaming? Maybe. We'll see. That'll be a crazy night, yeah. Oh, man, I play for your ticket, man. Put you up in a nice hotel. I take a good kid. I even get you a couple of men for it.

As long as they're the one that wear dresses. Right. Yeah, that's the best guy, right? They look like women. Very bad. Thanks, man. Yeah, thanks for having me on. Thanks for coming on show, man. Hey, where can people find you?

Destiny on Instagram, Kick, YouTube. Yeah. Okay. Desti. Just type in Destiny. Just destiny, yeah. How did you come with the name Destiny? Just to accommodate. I think when I was like 12, my name was like Neo Destiny when I played video games online. And then I, my start on streaming as a pro gamer, so I kept Destiny.

It's not because you're gay? No, no, not because I'm a black woman. Nope. Not because I'm a stripper. Nope. It's a black woman. Stay on. You're a destiny.

I'm destiny. Yeah. All right, bro. Thanks to do.