Hodgetwins Podcast - Twins Pod - Episode 16 - Michael Malice: Communism, Capitalism, & Anarchy!

Episode Date: June 7, 2024

Michael Malice joins this episode to argue no for communism and not for capitalism but for ANARCHY! He explains to us what he actually means by "anarchy" and he might have a point. We also tell a lot of offensive jokes back and forth to each other the whole show 😂 Get your Twins merch and have a chance to win a truck and a camper - https://officialhodgetwins.com/ Get Optimal Human, your all in one daily nutritional supplement - https://optimalhuman.com/ Want to be a guest on the Twins Pod? Contact us at [e-mail] Download Free Twins Pod Content - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_iNb2RYwHUisypEjkrbZ3nFoBK8k60CO Follow Twins Pod Everywhere - X - https://twitter.com/TheTwinsPod Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thetwinspod/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/twinspod TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@twinspod YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdg Rumble - https://rumble.com/c/TwinsPod Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/79BWPxHPWnijyl4lf8vWVu?si=03960b3a8b6b4f74 Apple -  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/twins-pod/id1731232810 00:46 - Anarchism vs Captialism 03:46 - The Emperor's New Clothes 04:48 - Does The Constitution Still Hold Up Today? 07:46 - Anarchism vs Captialism 10:19 - The Court System Is F***ed 14:56 - Politics Are Corrupt 18:07 - Here We Go… 20:45 - Politics is Like WWE 28:00 - Would Things Be Different If Trump Was Still President? 31:00 - Stupid & Good Vs Smart & Evil 33:54 - Russia Vs Ukraine 38:42 - Is America Evil? 41:50 - What Is The White Pill? 45:49 - Presidential Election/Is Voting Worth It? 55:17 - is Trump A Threat To Democracy? 59:09 - Does The Term "Anarchist" Rub People The Wrong Way? 1:02:10 - The Corrupt Government controls the Police 1:09:06 - Civil War 1:12:20 - Japan 1:13:19 - Black Culture, Reparations, & Victum Mentality 1:22:15 - Fatherless Homes 1:23:25 - Jew Card Vs Black Card 1:26:29 - Attack On Masculinity 1:29:07 - It's OK To Tell Jokes! 1:31:22 - Anti-White Racism 1:35:39 - Anti-Semitism Bill

Yeah, we got a special guest. He thinks we need to burn this government to the ground. We got fresh. We got Michael Malice, the anarchist. You're what you call it anarchist? Yeah. Because I think of anarchists. I think of the purge.

What anarchism means is the idea that authority, especially governmental authority, is inherently illegitimate and has no moral bearing whatsoever. Sounds good in theory. Everything sounds good in theory. Yeah. theory means. So you don't think the Constitution is same? Do you? America is a series of principles, and the government every day violates those principles. And one of the lines I always say is, I hate the government because I love my country.

And the government is directly a function of this constitution. So anarchist, that's a better system in your eyes? That's an alternative. Yes. Do you think Trump is a threat to democracy? I wish. I wish he was. You anarchist? I wish. When they say democracy, they may. mean control. So when they say someone's a threat

to our democracy, they mean someone's a threat to our control. That's exactly what they're wrong. Every time. A lot of people say they're talking about us. No, they're talking about them. Yes, always. Literally 100% of the time. A lot of truth to what you're saying. How much power does the Jewish lobby have? That is, that was my

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Yeah. Welcome to episode 16. I guess that's Michael Malice. How's it going, brother? It's going wonderful. Good. Hey, so first thing I want to jump to, Here we go.

Here we go. You're what you call an anarchist? Yeah. Enlighten us. Yeah. What do you want to know? Everything. Well, okay.

Because I think of anarchists. I think of Unabomber. I think of the purge. But we had the purge in 2020, but that was the function of the government. Right. Yeah. The government making a. illegal for you to protect your property. The biggest

person who was persecuted during the purge was Kyle Rittenhouse. We were defending property and doing the job the cops chose not to do. And he was assaulted by four people that day, killed two, shot one, and the fourth was the cop who maced him. They had weapons, right? Who did?

The people he shot in Kiev. Well, the cop sure did. So what anarchism means is the principle of, you do not speak for me, and everything else is just application. It is the idea that authority especially governmental authority is inherently illegitimate and has no moral bearing whatsoever. Sounds good in theory.

Everything sounds good in theory. Well, everything sounds good in theory. That's what the theory means. Right. Yeah. How could something sound bad in theory? Yeah. Marksism sounds great too.

So does the Constitution. Right. You implement it. And then you have the biggest government that's ever existed. Yeah. I think the biggest problem is not necessarily with the Constitution's people. It's not abided and buy it. Well, that's just kind of like how people who do seances.

say it, right? It's like, oh, the seance will work or the Sveji Board of Work if you believe in it. Do you ever know the story of the emperor who has no, the emperor's new clothes? The fairytale? You know the fairer tale? The emperor's new clothes? So the fairer tale, it's like Asob, no, it's the Grims Brothers, I think. So there's an emperor and they give him a suit, a suit of clothing. And the suit is magic. And how the suit works is they tell him, if you're a good person, you'll see a beautiful suit.

So there's no suit. He's walking around naked. And all the people in town are saying, wow, this suit's amazing because they don't want to say that they're bad people until little kid says he's not wearing clothes. And then they realize, oh, it's just a scam, right? So when you're sold something that's, oh, it works if you're a good person, that's kind of a con. Because my phone works. A bait and switch. Yeah, my phone works if I'm a bad person.

My credit card works if I'm a bad person. something to work is not contingent on the morality of the user. For something to be functional, it has to be functionally independent of who is using it. So you don't think the Constitution is saying? Do you? I mean, nothing's perfect. Like when I look at freedom of speech, First Amendment. Hold on.

The freedom of speech is a great principle. Do you think the Constitution has done a good job of protecting it, or have the people done a good job of protecting it? The people have done a great job of protecting. Well, half the people. Exactly. Like literally half the country is totally a good. The only problem I see with the First Amendment is not people not abide in by it, like Big Tech. But the point is freedom of speech and freedom, let's talk second, gun rights, more importantly, are true regardless of what it says in the Constitution.

The principle is what matters, not what some people 200 years ago decided to write down. And the fact the matter is, try getting a gun in New York or in Chicago and see what happens to you. It's a joke. And we see this every so often, not never so regularly. when you have to have Supreme Court justices, you know, if the Constitution worked as written, you could put nine randos in there. And it'd be like, well, you know, it's like, how do I pour some water into a cup? It doesn't, you don't need anything fancy.

What I'm trying to say is it's not an indictment on Constitution's indictment on people. It's not, you know, abide and bite. It is an indictment on the Constitution. It doesn't fall on the people. No, it doesn't. Because, again, if the milk is spoiled, it's not my stomach's fault for not being able to digest it. So there's no such thing as if, first of all, you can't have a constitution for a country of angels.

What would you need a constitution for? So inevitably, if you're planning to have a government, you have to take into account that there's going to be a lot of people who are murderers, rapists, thieves, power hungry. So if you're writing a constitution for a population that is not composed of human beings, that's perfectly nice, but that's of no relevance. Yeah, I think the constitution is great, but I think society, us all were not objective.

we are all filled with biases. And it keeps us from implementing the Constitution how it was written. Why should I care what a bunch of people 200 years ago cared about when it's a different time? They would certainly tell me

me the principles are sound, but you should change with the times. They said this explicitly. So why should we be bound by that? Yeah, I think that's the majority of the problem we have in America. We're not listening to what I found in fault this morning. We listen to what everybody else once instead of that piece of paper they wrote.

Because without that Constitution, we don't even have America. Who wouldn't have that right to? Oh, you're crazy. Are you serious? Yeah, so there's a heart attack. Well, hopefully a very mild heart attack. Yeah, I hope so. I hope I can recover. Because America is a lot bigger and a lot more important of an idea than the Constitution. America was around before the Constitution with the Artless Confederation.

America is a series of principles. And the government every day violates those principles. And one of the lines I always say is, I hate the government because I love my country. And the government is directly a function of this constitution. Right. Let me say this. So anarchism, that's a better system in your eyes? That's an alternative.

Yes. So is there, like, is there police in that system of government? Yes, there would be more police and they'd be accountable. Because I was just going through TSA on the way here, right? And I'm a smart ass. You guys are smart asses, right? Yeah. If we all know if we are a smart ass to the TSA agent, even if we film them, they can do all sorts of stuff to us.

Right. They can put us in a room. Oh, you got a flight. That's too bad. I'm going to have to go through your bag four times. They can make your life miserable. They can. They can make, at the very least, they can make you miss your flight.

If you put that video on the internet, the TSA is going to cover his ass, right? Right. If you mess with the security guard and he makes you miss a flight in a mall or a store. store, that company is going to fire his ass immediately. So when you have any, people understand, when you have a monopoly, especially a government monopoly on any product or service, you have no accountability. It's more expensive. And you are basically subject to the whim of whatever little person, and I say this

as a very tiny man, has that little bit of power. But if you have a competition and the possibility of changing providers, right away, you are the one having the power. instead of having to live in fear. So there's no reason to have a government monopoly on security when there's so many people who are perfectly capable of protecting their neighborhoods and acting, you know, working for different companies. So you want to privatize everything?

Yes. Who would hire the security at that point? Well, we have that right now. So when I go to a bar, there's a bouncer, there's a doorman. You guys might have security here. I don't know. But the point is whoever... I'm security.

I got my gun over my backpack. I like that. And an anarchist society would have much more people being self-reliant and trained in weaponry and ready to use it because I think we all agree you want a country or an area at the very least where it's the criminals who are worried about who's packing as opposed to coming formally from Brooklyn when I was on the subway I always had to wonder who's packing. And if I defend it myself, I'm the one getting arrested. Right. So everybody would have guns. Hopefully. Well, that would be their choice.

Yeah. I think that's a good thing. Yes, of course it is. Would that be a court system or anything? Sure, you have that right now. You would have, right now, you have contracts that's happened at all the time. There's a clause that says arbitration, right? So you would have our different companies competing.

Because right now, you know, there's this fantasy, and I know you guys agree. I don't know if you've ever been involved in lawsuits. There's this idea. Oh, hell yeah, I've been in a lawsuit. Of course, when you get big enough, it's inevitable. It's a nightmare, right? We have this idea that, like, okay, the court system leans. everyone's equal and fair and have access to arbitration.

That's all bullshit. Because if you're poor, you're screwed, right? You really, some guy has some big lawyer. You're SOL. Not only you're just screwed in terms of the decision, time and mental health, right? But if you had different types of companies that will solve disputes and you can choose from between them, they'd be much. How long do court cases drag on now?

Years. And it's your lawyers, what, $300 an hour? So you would drive down costs. They would compete in terms of efficiency or maybe technicality. and you'd have much better options than having to have that one. And what happens, our court system is designed,

and I'm sure you've experienced this, to draw it out so long that eventually they don't even want to go to court. She's like, let's just settle this shit. They want you to give up and just plead. Right. And that's not justice. No, it's not.

So how would poor people in an arctic system, how would they be able to afford security and afford all this stuff? Let's say, let's say I make $26,000 a year. I'm living in a house with 10 people. Sure. All of them Mexican, they eat legal. I ain't got no money.

I ain't got it. I'm barely making it. The only reason why I got Jose and Guadalupe and there is to help pay the rent, right? We poor as hell. They ain't got no papers. I'm barely, I'm eating beans and tortillas every day. The cops is gone. There's no cops.

There's no cops. You would have a cops being like Uber, number one. Like what? Like Uber. Like Uber? Uber. You call someone whose job it is maybe to have to pass some kind of license thing. They're there to solve disputes.

But you have that right now. Because, again, if I go to a bar, movie theater, or the streets would be private, someone would, like if you go to shopping mall, there's security there already. So this is not something that's imaginary. There's something that we have to do with on a regular basis. The problem is it's the government that keeps a lot of these private security officers from be able to do anything. Their hands are tied.

Yeah, it just sounds kind of scary because I've seen some security guards at the mall. And if I'm worried about that person to protect me, I'm screwed. You're screwed. I see the quality of security. Between security, private security. and a policeman, it's like totally different. They're not even the same. Yeah, because that policeman, if he wants to do it.

He has all the power. He has all the power, and that's his only option. Whereas you would have the elite private security, and then you'd have the 7-Eleven version of private security. And right now, as you guys know, four people often have no access to police. In bad neighborhoods, the cops don't even come. And this was a big problem for a very long time, as, you know, public enemies to even think about.

Well, the pool of money come from. What's that? The money. Like if I have an app, let's call it Run a Cop. Sure. And I got Guadalupe is going off on me. Jose is beating up everybody in the house.

I'm scared. I got to find me. You're scared Guadalupe? You bet you're scared of Guadalupe? You bet you're going to do. So I go to Rent-A-Cop app. I mean, how do I pay for it? How does the cop get paid?

How does the person that's providing the service? How is he getting paid? How does he earn and living? We have crypto money right now. Private money. Right now. You can pay drug dealers right now with Bitcoin. Where's my camera?

That's right. Use Bitcoin to pay your drug dealers. I think an anarchist system, just by listening what you said, I think the poor would be, they would be screwed even more. No, they'd be much better for them because you would distinguish between the needy poor and the useless poor. Well, also, they're useless poor. People who contribute nothing. or a complete drain,

who fuck shit up, who cannot hold down a job, have no interest in... Can I curse there? Yeah, go ahead. Who have no interest in holding on a job. Freedom of speech, right? Who have no interest in holding out a job.

People who have ruined their neighborhoods, as opposed to someone who is trying to hustle, has a crappy job. Maybe they're just dropped out of high school because of certain circumstances. You probably live in off the system. Yeah, but those are two very different scenarios. If you had a private system

and there's more private charity, more people involved in their own communities, those two people would not be treated the same, and they shouldn't be treated the same. It's night and day. I think I understand where you come from. If there's an anarchist system, you wouldn't have to worry about the monopoly that's oppressing you.

You'll take care of your own security. More often not, you're going to allow them somebody for security. You would be your own security. And so much of our media and culture is getting people freaked out and obsessed about things they have no power over to distract them from things that they do have power over. For example, we've had four years of people literally having, literally having heart attacks in the street because Trump's president.

And if you ask them, how is this affecting your life? Like literally, how is affecting your life today? I can't live with this man in the White House. Like, you've never even been to Washington. Like, do you care that he's farting that bed? Why do you care? Whereas there's a lot of things you can do right now in your community. You can help a needy child.

You can talk to the elderly, someone who's lonely. I mean, there's infinite what you could do. But the focus is so much on politics as opposed to making a difference on a small level, which we all have that capacity to do. I think what's currently wrong if our government is the abuse of power. I think power corrupts people. If you went to an anarchist system,

it would take away the power from the government and you would give the power to the rich and now they would abuse that power. And like now? I mean, I totally agree with you. But power corrupts everybody. Whether it's from the government or if it's private. Just like when we dropped bombs on in Japan.

The reason why we did that is because we had all the power. Japan didn't have the bombs. But we have done that. If they had bombs, no. Like when you take that power away from the government and privatize it, you're then distributing the power, in my opinion, to the rich. And now they're going to be the monopoly. But the whole thing is right now, you're describing what we have now.

Like all the bills in Washington, whether you're a Republican or Democrat, are only a function of the rich. It is, none of us in this room, no matter how influential we are, can get a senator on the phone. If I'm Bill Gates or I'm Elon Musk or I'm any of these names we don't even know who are wealthy, even just like 10, I'm saying just loosely, but even just 20 million, if I contribute to whichever sender I want, I can get them on the phone real quick and they can do me favors. The point is, if you get rid of those senators, that financial power is not all the same as the power of dropping bombs.

Bill Gates, I think, is a bad person. I think Jeff Bezos is a mixed person. They are not the same as someone who can. wage war and conscript people and lock people in jail. That's a lot of truth to there because we don't even pick our own presidents on both sides. Of course. There's an entire process. This is what's fascinating to me because we talk about democracy and choice. There is a process every four years where very publicly, both parties have a system where you

watch your choices get kicked away. Right. And so you're left with one. It's insane. Right. Right. There's a lot of truth to what you're saying. It's time to give up our new give up.

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Oh, if you think that's a good step, but I can show you another. We'll get to that later, though. It's like when you talk about this monopoly, our government. Yeah. How true is it to say the Jewish lobby selects the Democratic presidential nominee and the Republican presidential nominee? Probably for like the last 30, 40, 50 years.

Well, then Bernie Sanders would have been the nominee, right? He's Jewish. Is he? You don't know that Bernie Sanders is Jewish. I didn't know. Maybe he wasn't a good enough Jewish person. No, no. Bernie Sanders is so Jewish that you could use him as a Nazi cartoon,

the way he looks and the way he looks and the way he's. he talks, it's a little bit over the top. Is it any truth to that? There is some truth to it. I think any you have but there's a, first of all, I don't think the Jewish lobby is as powerful in the Republican Party as it is, and I say as a Jewish person. I don't think it's as powerful in the Republican Party

at all as it is in the Democratic Party. The Jewish people tend to so it's more powerful enough. It tends to about 70 to 30%. And I think historically, at least since you know, probably the 1930s, it's overwhelmingly aligned with the progressive side of the

Democratic Party. But at the same time, I think people realize, if you ask me, what's the difference between Chuck Schumer, who you guys know he's Jewish, right? Yeah. San majority I kind of figured he was. Yeah. You think, you think, well, him and Bernie are, okay, if you ask. I could totally tell you're Jewish. Yeah. I got my nose done. I can take out my pants. You'll see I'm black. Can you, do you, do you, what is the big difference that you guys see between Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, who's Catholic ostensibly. I hate both of their politics. No, but I mean, what is the differences?

One's a Jew and one's not. Right, but in terms of their politics, right? That's the only difference, I see. For the most part, they have the same politics doing both sides. The same size. So it's absolutely, the Jewish Pact is very powerful in Washington, but so is the gay community.

So the black community was like 90% of African Americans, though it's decreasing vote Democrats. So these are the different groups that make up the Democratic Party. But I think historically what that question refers to is there's a very strong pro-Israel power within Washington. Yeah, that's what you meant. It's very strong.

Yes. What do you think, well, what's going on in Israel? What do you think about that? So I was born in Ukraine and I'm Jewish. So I've been the real victim of all that's been going on in the last. Yeah, both sides, huh? Ukraine and. It's really been hitting me personally.

And one of the things I really hate, did you guys grow up like I did in WWF? Yeah, NWA. Oh, oh, okay. Rip Flyer NWA. You guys are hipsters, okay. You like the- I'm a Dusty Rose fan. Oh.

Tomic elbow? Yeah, we're going to be 50 in September. Okay, yeah. Dusty, I, my favorite growing up, it was Bobby Heenan. Oh, Bono. He was so funny. Yeah, because he was such a, he fucked with people. Yeah.

Do you remember the Mokie Bronkebr? The who? The Mokie brothers. M-U-L-K. Your accent. It's M-U-L-K-E-Y. Yeah, it was two white boys. Is that W-A?

That was N-W-A? It was two white boys and every weekend they got the ass-cuitary. They never won a match. They call Keith, well, they're both cans. Yeah, yeah, they were just everybody beat the shit out of it.

It's a good, it's a good living. Yeah, yeah, bring up the Mokie butters. The Mokie brothers. You said the Mokie Bothers. Well, it's got all those damn short vowel sounds in. Mokey Brothers. It's the words fault, not yours. Yeah, it just as a constitution.

It's a weird day. Monkey brothers. I would pull it up. Yeah, this is NWA. Yeah. That's the road broke. Yeah. You've been a road warriors, right?

Of course. Yeah, yeah. White boys used to get that ass kick every weekend. And they're so pale. Yeah. All right, look at this maneuver. And he just had him up there like he was nothing. Close line.

They look like Albonos. Oh, my God. The devastation. Is it, these guys are like, the war wars like 300 pounds each? Is it really that impressive that you can beat up these like frat boys? Yeah, it does. Just toss around like all you're real big men.

That's just bullying. No, my point, what I was saying is, our politics has been reduced to a stupid level, especially in terms of international affairs, of good guys, bad guys. So you better be on the side of the good guys because if you're not on the side of the good guys, you decide the bad guys.

So here's the answer with both Ukraine and Israel and Palestine, Hamas, and Russia. First of all, it's not a problem, in my opinion. Well, I like that attitude. Right, period. Number one is it's not going to be good guys. It's not going to be a victory for anybody. Putin is,

Putin is not going to, no one is saying, thank God, that we're going to go in and remove Putin from power, right? And it's not. That would be stupid. But that would be insane. Suicide. Well, we're talking about someone with nukes. I mean, the out of death in minutes is incomprehensible. So no one's saying that.

It does not seem at all possible that Putin's going to conquer Ukraine, right? So there's going to be some settlement. Everyone's going to get a little bit ass mad because someone's going to have to give, someone's going to have to take. Right. We have no idea what pressure is being put on Zelensky, ahead of Ukraine, from the West. If he wanted to sit down with Putin behind the scenes and cut a deal, the Germans, NATO, the U.S., I'm sure are telling him, nope, we got to keep this war running, because the more of the war is running, the more of us making money.

So that's number one. Number two is the Israelis aren't going to kill everyone in Gaza. The Hamas is not going to wipe Israel off the map. There's going to be some horrible compromise that's just going to kick the can down the road, that no one's going to be happy with. But if you have this good guy, bad guy thing, none of that makes sense. Because like, nope, my team's got to win.

Well, what does winning look like? The other side isn't going to vanish from the face of the earth. And the other thing that's fascinating to me is, you know how people think that the Red Sox won because they rooted for them? And it's like, why didn't you go to the game? We needed you're rooting for them. It's just like, I promise you,

the Red Sox, wherever team is a winner lose independently of whether you support it. But your support for the Palisks, or Israel or Russia or it's not Russia so much but Ukraine you got to support them. It's like they don't know you're supporting them. This is a completely artificial thing on the internet and through media that you got to care about the right team. Remember when Obama was president and Michelle Obama had that sign bring back our girls. Yeah. Because all those girls were kid I Boko Haram and it's like I don't know what happened to them because you just stop talking about it, right? Because some I'm sure it was something awful that worked out something probably killed. I don't know. I'm being ignorant. I'm sure we could figure it out. But the point is these things become an issue and everyone's really got to care about it, which is, in my view, a big distraction from the place I care about the most, which is America.

Right. Yeah. Do you think you'll be in a little bit, I think we can find a solution in Ukraine, but I think it's kind of over-optimistic for like Israel. I don't think that's ever going to be fixed. I don't know what that, I don't think any single person, okay, let me take a step back. So I did a book on North Korea, right? So what happened was after World War II, you know, we beat the allies by we. I mean, beat Germany and Japan and Italy, the Axis Powers.

So Russia and the U.S. decided to start splitting of Japan's empire. So Russia got some stuff, we got some stuff. What are we going to do about Korea? Well, let's just split her down the middle. Now, the Koreans say, North Koreans say correctly, wait a minute, we weren't combatants. The only two countries that got split was Nazi Germany and us. What do we have to do anything? But they install the great leader Kimmel-sung in the north.

We install Sigman Rhee, who's kind of a dictator in the South. They both say, I'm the head of all of Korea. You have the Korean War for four years. And what ends up happening is Russia and now in China back up the north, the U.S. and the U.N. back up the South, and the Korean people paid the price. So for three to four years, we're going back and forth, killing everyone there, and it ends with a stalemate. And to this day, this country is divided for what had never been a good reason to begin with.

And they hate each other, and they have nukes pointed at each other. And what's that look like? It's not nice. In the DMZ is the most militarized zone on earth. So, yeah, what is Israel and the Palestinians going to look like? I think your prognosis is what it's going to end. That's the thing. It's like everyone on the media is like, all you have to do, whenever you hear someone use the word just, including myself, take a second because they're doing some kind of, you remember the underpants gnomes in South Park?

Yeah. For people don't know. Step one, steal the underpants. Step two. Step three, step three profit, right? So it's like, all you got to do in Israel, all you got to Ukraine is just, it's never, there's not one sentence

that's going to solve either of these solutions. Because even if Putin gets beaten back to his borders, he's still in power and he's across the line. And that's kind of a big deal. Right, right. I think you got the same sentiment, Trump. Yes. He just wants the killing to stop.

I want the killing to stop, and I want the U.S. to pull back a lot more from the rest of the world. We're still in South Korea. We're still in Germany decades after the Korean War and World War II, respectively. Do you think we still have these problems in Ukraine and in Israel if Trump's in office? Yes. Well, Israel, sir, I mean... Most definitely in Israel, right? When you say problems, do you mean...

At the level they are now. Yeah. No, no. I think he is really good at... He doesn't get enough credit for what he did in foreign policy, because the media is very determined not to let him have a win. And I was very, very depressed. And it takes a lot for me to get sad by the media when he was trying to cut a deal with Kim Jong-un in North Korea. Because there's concentration camps there and children being starved.

And they're all trying to look at what an idiot Trump is. It's like, guys, just for five minutes, can you care about starving children instead of making fun of Orange Man? Just for five minutes. And they couldn't do it. Yeah, why do you think liberals are so obsessed with Hayton from? because he he creates a space where they have no status

and if you take much like what you want to do prioritize everything privatize everything privatize yes yes I don't want politicians to have status I think they're I think it's just a dangerous notion

to have a politician running our lives that's just stupid if you ask people should the people who are the most popular in high school fuck no I didn't even have to finish and also So why should one person be making the decision in eight issues?

I want the math kid to be doing my accounting, and I want the jock to be worried about my nutrition, right? And I want maybe the prom queen to make the architecture. I don't know, something, whatever I wish she's good for. And I want the drug cartels giving my cocaine. Thank you. Yes, because you know it's going to be clean and it's not going to be cut. You want the good stuff, not the –

I want the good stuff. I want the hundred Biden shit. He's got the good stuff. He's got the good stuff. You know he's got the good stuff. Well, you know, he's liberal, you know. Are you crazy? He was doing crack.

Yeah. That's a black man's drug. I want cocaine, pure from Colombia. I want the Jewish cocaine. That's what I want. You can't tell him there's a difference between Jewish cocaine and crack that the nigger smoke. Well, the Jewish cocaine is a lot bigger because our noses are bigger. Yeah.

So you've got to use more of it. That's what I want to be purr. You can't get, because you get a lot of coke up. It's called, it's called kosher. It's kosher cocaine. It's answers to higher authority. But you know, you say he smokes crack, but then he got a millionaire job. So I don't know.

That guy knows what he's doing to some extent. I'm just saying it's that monopoly you're talking about. Am I wrong, though? No, you're not wrong. Here's the thing. If he's the son of a CEO, like Bill Gates's his son, he's not going to be treated the same way that he's being treated as Biden's son. And look at the other way around.

Look at Trump's kids. Are they being treated? Would they be treating that way if it was just Trump as a hotel leader? They don't want to fucking care. That's true. You know what? Me and my brother under the belief that a, like,

a democracy is only as effective as the citizens who are part of that democracy. Like, I'm a friend believer. Not everybody should have the right to vote. Yeah, you've got to pass some type of competency test. You've got to have competency. Who do you think is going to be running those tests? Let me finish my thought.

You would have been told If you're not vaccinated, you're not confident to vote. You're not going to be the ones writing those tests. You're going to be the ones failing those tests. Well, if you... Maybe you privatized the test. Yes, I would be in favor of that. But at the same time, smart people are dangerous

because it's easier to train a smart dog than a dumb one. It's the smart people who are the first one to fall for all the trusty experts bullshit because they want to feel like they're better than somebody else. So the people who are like midwits, people who are a little bit smarter than average, they're the ones who are enforcing all the crap that the government does because it gives them an opportunity to lower things over other people.

So are you telling me we got to put up with the stupid? Well, to some extent. I'd rather have someone be stupid and good than smart and evil, wouldn't you? Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying this in disrespectful way, but you guys come from bodybuilding culture. A lot of those guys aren't too bright, but they're great men. Right.

They have a work ethic. They have goals. Maybe they don't, you know, they're not going to be, reading some fancy physics book, but I'd rather trust them with a lot of opportunities in my life than someone who went to Harvard. Right. Yeah. Right. Right. I just think, you know,

some of the people that vote in this country is like, it's almost like it's self-defeating, like women. I would never understand why a woman would champion a dude going into a woman's restroom or competing against women. I would never get over that stupid. You do know why, because it's a status thing. Because it's all status. Are you kidding? It's all about like I'm a good person, therefore I'm in a position to look down other people.

People who are... It's like a moral superiority. Yes, yes. Come on. It's clear as day. Because then if you tell that woman, you know, you're born female because I love trans women, women, she'd get all offended. Well, if you believe what you're saying, that trans women are women, you wouldn't care one way or another.

Like if I ask you which one is the older brother, you don't care. Who cares, right? It's a non-issue, but with them. What, what are you saying? It's like, oh, I thought you said trans women are women. Why do you care? Yeah, so that New York governor, when she said, you said, she made that comment about black kids don't know what a computer is that's coming from a moral

census period and we need to help them because these are black people are fucking stupid she's actually projecting she thinks she's smarter than yeah i don't know where she's coming from but i want more of it yeah did you see what mayor adams said next the next oh yeah yeah yeah he said we should hire the migrants to be lifeguards because they're good swimmers it's like they didn't swim here from mexico do you think mexico's cuba because you can swim doesn't mean you'll be a good That's true, too, or that you would want to. It's like, you could just sit there watching them drown. What do you care?

I saw my family drown trying to cross the ocean. Why do I care about this entitled White Ho? Right. You know how you were prepared? Like, we had a liberal on yesterday. Destiny. Yeah, I've had him my show. He's a smart dude.

Very smart dude, but he uses a lot of straw men's misrepresentations, and he's a detriment to himself. It's like their own worst enemy. Like, let me, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Justin was right. I don't think so. So I'm going to ask you. Okay.

So what the opinion is. I've told him the reason why Putin invaded Ukraine is because for decades, he said, Ukraine cannot become a part of NATO. Right. He wanted to protect his borders. Right. If NATO ever tried to, like, team up with NATO, he's going to invade. It's going to be a problem.

Sure. Is that true or no? That argument, I don't think, okay, I'm going to pause. I would say one thing. I don't think this absolutely stupid argument that we're told the media that Putin's invaded because he's bad. It makes any sense. That's crazy to me. That was my whole.

That's propaganda. It's all bullshit. He wants to protect his people. Hold on. But even if someone's bad, it doesn't explain. I think George W. Bush is bad. I think Jeffrey Dahmer is bad. I think bin Laden are bad.

They're not bad in the same way. And if I'm going to have someone, I think Bush has more blood in his hands than Jeffrey Dahmer. But I'm not going to have Jeffrey Dahmer babysitting my nephew. It's going to be George W. Bush. So to say someone is bad and use that, it's just a hand wave. It doesn't explain shit. It's the token point. Right.

And that's why I wrote my book on North Korea because it's like people just say they're crazy. It's like what they do makes sense. It's evil, but there's a logic to it. We're evil. United States is evil. In many ways, yeah. But I don't understand that argument because if he's invading because he's scared NATO is going to be on his borders. But by invading, he's moving his borders west.

So I think that would accomplish what he supposedly fears. So I don't understand where he's going. with this. I don't know what I think he's a very bright man. No one argues he's not bright. No one argues he's not a strategist. So I would love to know and he's not going to show his cards because it would just blow up in his face obviously. What how he thought this was going to play out. There's no way on earth Putin thought. I'm going to invade you even if I took out Ukraine in two weeks that all of Europe's going to be like, oh, you got us this time, Vlad. All right, good game. And walk home. He didn't think that was going to happen. So I don't know.

I would love to know how he thought this was going to end up because that would explain what his thinking was. Because he, you knew he sat down for months and worked through every years. For years. Every possibility with his generals and be like, all right, what are their forces? What are ours? How likely is it that, you know, U.S. is getting involved? Germany, NATO, so and so forth. I think they waited for a change of power here in this country. That's clearly true. That's not even a question. I was speaking to destiny is that he denied all that. He says Putin has just evil? Yeah, he's just evil guys. He's doing it because he's an asshole. Then why isn't he invading like Latvia, like a smaller country? He could take

Latvia in five minutes and they used to have control of Lafayette. Why is any invading Japan? Which has much more money. Right. Yeah. Literally why. We could have teamed up on. No, I'm not even saying Destiny's wrong, but like what is your answer? Like why Ukraine's, Ukraine is a huge, we've all played risk, most of us. Ukraine is gigantic. Why are you

going for like the big dog? Cut your teeth on the show that you're not kidding with Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania. You've had them before, you know, the Baltics as part of this USSR. Right. Is there any proof that what I was claiming that he's trying to protect his borders when you made it

Ukraine? Is there any proof to that? That's what he says. I don't know about protecting his voters so much as him saying, you guys across the line and I'm not joking. So he was clearly being like, you guys think you could just have these meetings and be like, yeah, yeah,

we promise, we promised Pinky Square. And a certain, and this is in contradiction to Obama, because he said something about, I think with Siri goes, there's a red line, you cross this red line,

we're going to get a pissed. And I think it was Assad who goes, here we go. And Obama was like, like, all right. You know, so I think Vlad is like you and also what is another reason why I'm not a fan of democracy, war is really popular. When you're a leader of a country and you're at war, and there's this rally the flag situation happened in China during World War II. It happens. It's happened with Putin. It happened with W after 9-11. You know, he had 98% approval something crazy.

So this is something that's very scary to me as we're approaching November. that there is a huge incentive for Biden to escalate war because a lot of people who don't pay attention to politics, like, I got to support our troops, and they're not wrong with that principle broadly speaking. Yeah, that whole war, and it was Iraq right when we were Saddam Hussein. That was all bullshit. Yes, all of it.

Although it is fair to say Saddam Hussein is an evil person and he's in hell, and it's a good thing, he's not a power. I'm not Saddam evil. Yeah, but governments, like you said, democracy, do a lot of evil shit. Yeah, but not, he was really bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't think U.S. has any... I think the U.S.A.'s moral compass

is in no place to judge other countries. Oh, I disagree. I think we're the best country world. You take that flag off your head right now. What are you talking about? I'm just saying... When other countries do it, we complain about it. Oh, that's true.

There's a hypocrisy. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, but when we do it and other countries do it... Oh, yes, 100%. That's the sentiment. I'll give you a great example. North Korea complains this, like, we're not allowed to build new.

you guys sell weapons to everyone on the earth. So when you do it, it's just business. But when we're doing it, you're giving us sanctions. How is that? And they're right. They're completely right. That's what we're saying. I agree that.

I agree that. Like if Putin did to the U.S. like I did to Japan, it's a warcraft. Yeah. Yeah. And matter of fact, what was it? What happened with the Jews? That was World War II, right?

Yes. Yeah. And World War II was what you did to Japan as well, right? Yes. So even as remarkably evil with what Hitler did, Look what the U.S. did. Hitler killed six million people. How many millions of people did we kill with those H-bombs in that same war? But we only remember Hitler.

Well, I think there's a little distinction because, first of all, wasn't millions. And the argument was this is going to prevent the deaths of America. Those people who were in concentration camps in Poland weren't a threat to anyone. They were starving and helpless. The Japanese were still at war with the U.S. And the argument was if we nuke them now, A, we're not going to lose a single, another American soldier, which was true. But also I think the idea was,

because you have to keep in mind, a lot of these lefties have these like utopian visions. It's like once we do this, it's going to put a stop to war permanently. Because once it's shown how powerful weapons have become, like people aren't going to want to fight anymore. I mean, this was why World War I was called the War to end war. They thought once we end war, World War I,

we're never going to have another war again because people are going to see how fucked up it is. Yeah, because people are really good at learning. Yeah, that's what we're... That's their idea. By definition, that's a war crime when you target innocence to be. A war crime is what, again, this goes back to the end because of the thing. A war crime is whatever people in power decided is.

So war crime is something winners put on losers. Do you know what I mean? So it can, because we're the good guys. By definition, can't do war crimes. We're the good guys. But that's the logic. Right, right. That explains their situation in Israel, too.

What do you mean? Everybody wants to say that they're the good guy. Well, I think when you're having a war, you automatically are going to have civilians killed, which means widows, which means orphans. And those orphans grow up, and half of them are going to become men, and they're not going to be too happy that their dad was killed. Even if their dad was on the losing side. So where does it end? That's what we're talking about earlier. Israel's not getting wiped out.

The Palestinians aren't getting killed. Where does this end? And I don't have, and anyone who tells you just is full of it. Yeah. Just do this. Just do that. Yeah. It's over.

Yeah. Right. Life is really complicated. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, well, well. You're not bad for being a Jew and all.

I wish I could say it to say about you, my brother. Well, I'm not Jewish. That's not what I meant. What do you meant? I'm kidding. Okay. Don't start none. There won't be none.

You wrote a book on Whitefield. Yeah. He's looking at the prompter. All right. So I'm hearing that you wrote this book called The White Piel. Yeah, I'm sure you want to push it. You're a Jew. You're the one pushing it now, motherfucker.

You damn fucking hateful. Fucking defensive Jew. See how the act when the backs are against them all? Yeah. They'll blow your fucking family. He will bomb the shit out of him. Now, tell us about your book. What do you want to know?

What the fuck is it about? The white pill through... Well, you went through all the... Well, yeah. So the white pill... So I am very hopeful about... Can I get a napkin to wipe my sweaty face? I feel like I'm getting mugged.

I don't do that. That was racist. This goes I feel like I'm back in Bushwick I got my wallet That's good though I got a hand of it That's a good one

Thank you so much So one of the reasons I'm very hopeful About the future of this country Not necessarily government Is because people who were in a worse position than us Defeated almost effortlessly And bloodlessly

An enemy that was far more entrenched uneval than what we're facing. So the White Hill is the story of the rise and fall of the Soviet Union. So Americans have a very poor understanding of what evil is. Because we think it's some guy with a weird mustache, banging a desk, and clipping his shit. The monopoly taught us what evil is. Yeah, yes, yes.

I'm learning, I'm learning. I'm learning. But if you saw during COVID, it's also that little administrator who said, oh, you want to see your mom who's dying in the hospital? Sorry, I can't let you in. And that's not crazy. That's evil. Because when small people have a little bit of power, they love to exercise.

Power corrupts. Yes. So the things that were done in the Soviet Union are things that I think Americans would find unimaginable. And the other thing I talked about in the book is how many people, and this is going to send chills of blood of people's spines, is how many people in the West were not only saying this wasn't happening, that it's a good thing, that we need. be more like the Soviet Union.

We need to have more of this government control, literally every aspect of your life. Bernie Sanders said, shared that same sentence. Oh, yeah, he went to the Soviet Union. Yeah, he's vacations there, right? Yeah, yeah. So, but the thing is,

it ended up collapsing, and no one saw it coming very quickly and leaving no trace to the point where now it's almost regard as a joke. But this was millions of people killed in many countries over decades. You know, your phones tapped. You have to wonder,

and someone in your friends is going to be spying. on you and reporting on you. So it's very, very dark, but it does have that hopeful ending. And I think that's what I see. I think a lot of people, it drives me crazy on social media, especially like, the West is done, it's a rap, America's over, we can't win. I'm like, you're looking at Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and being like, I can't beat these two. Well, you should pack it up and go home because I can't help you. Right? But that's what they're saying. And then they go, no, it's not them. It's the forces behind them. I go, but the enemy class is

not composed of impressive people. These aren't gods. These are assholes with a lot of power, with a lot of skin in the game, and they're starting out on third base, but if you want, they want you to throw your bat down and walk off so they can run to home. I'm not going to let them. So in this upcoming election, who are you voting for? I don't believe in voting. You're not going to vote? I don't believe in voting. You don't believe in a lesser evil? No, I don't believe in voting because I don't think anyone can speak for me. politically. Number one, I don't think, I, I,

how do we defeat? Hold on, hold on just, what I'm saying what I mean? Because I know people have mousetraps in their heads, so I'm not preparing myself for them. Right. There are two choices in this, in this, what are, I was talking about good guys, bad guys. So if you criticize Trump in any way, you have TDS, right?

Trump derangement syndrome. Right. And unless you say, if you say, Trump's kind of okay, he shouldn't have been the White House, he screwed things up in COVID. What are you, a Trump supporter? Unless you say Trump's the worst thing

that's ever happened to America. He's a Trump supporter. You know, I'm voting for Jill Stein because Hillary is terrible and her values aligned with mine. Oh, you're a Trump supporter. You want Trump to win. I mean, this is what our politics has come down to you.

Yeah, yeah. I want RFK or you're Trump supporter. It's crazy. So, but I think people are overestimating what any man, even if Trump or an angel, which he obviously is not, is capable of doing in the White House. Right.

Because he maybe due to inexperience, I don't know why, let them run the table on him a lot. And there's only so much any one man can do because Joe Biden, as we're seeing, Joe Biden's not running that White House. No, hell not. He's definitely not on Twitter. Right. But he's not because Karin Jampierre tweeted for him by mistake. Yeah. That happened.

Right, right. The black gay woman. Who got her job because she's black and gay. Yes. But listen, I think she does a good job because would you like to do that job? She's got a tough job. She's got a, how you're going to go up there in life for Joe Biden every day with the press court? She's hanging in that.

She's doing okay. Yeah. Trump's not going to be a mechanism of salvation for America. I don't see how he could turn it around. Because I think all the power lasts with Congress. I, majority of the power. And I think a lot of power goes to the bureaucracy. These are people whose names we never know. They were, the media was cheering when the military was lying to Trump, commander-in-chief about what's going on in Syria.

Like, this is insane, but it's become normalized that it's okay if you are in the government to defy the president and do what you think is right. It's just completely crazy to me. Do you think the country do better, be in a better position of Trump's in office? Okay, okay, okay, okay, let me take a deep breath because just go with me for a second. Okay, you know how sometimes, okay, I'll speak your language. I'll give you the floor. I'll speak your language because you guys come from bodybuilding background. You know how some.

Oh, come on. Oh, come on. I'm like, just because of my body, I used to lift weights. I'm some big, dumb, gym-lifted, oh, yeah, five more. I'm just trying to be persuasive. That's all I'm saying. You know how sometimes it's a good idea to take a deloading week? Right.

Right? But someone's like, that's stupid. You've got to go harder every week. That's crazy. You're going to burn out. You can train yourself with injury. Sometimes you want to take a step back, right? True.

Right. You could not have had Obama without George W. Bush first. And certainly not 60. Democratic senators and a super majority in the House. I get that. You could not have had Trump without, if Romney had won in 2012, Trump would never become president, right? So if I ask people, which would you rather have eight years of Obama and then four years

of Trump or four years of Obama and then Romney and Romney? I think the first situation is a lot better than the second one. Because if you just had Romney, you would have no MAGA movement at all. It would be the Rina Republicans running the show, and things would really be in that position. The only time, this is the little ray of hope I see in a Biden second term. And I'm not saying it's better,

I'm saying it's not all downhill. The only time... I'd like to hear this. I'll tell it to you. Okay. Here it goes. Here we go. The only time...

Slow it down. I'm a dumb body bill. No one said dumb. Where's my creatine? Creeteen? Yeah, Natty reactions only. The only time in our life, time we have had a balanced budget was when you had a democratic president and a Republican Congress.

And Biden was part of that Congress when that happened. Biden was, for his entire career until five minutes ago, a Clinton, moderate union Democrat. He was anti-immigration. He was anti, all this other stuff that the Democratic Party has become in the last 10 years. And there is the possibility that if you have a big Republican Congress, you can force him to go back to his roots. That's a possibility. Now, I'm not saying it's likely. I'm not saying it's definite. Calm down. Everyone's freaking out. The point being, I'm also concerned because if Trump is back in office that the establishment Republicans will team up with the Democrats, impeach him and remove him.

And then whoever his VP is is going to become president. Mitch McConnell was sick of his bullshit. And Mitch McConnell, I'm sure, was threatening him if you don't do certain things. He was going to pardon allegedly Julian Assange and some other people. If you do this, we're going to remove you from office. Trump was going to do that. Yeah. So I think people who think it's like A versus B, these people are playing the long game,

and they're pretty crafty about it. So just think about what, you know, just because something's directly straight ahead, again, it's like training every every week. Sometimes taking a step back might be better in the long term. I'll give you one example. Can we all agree that it's a thousand times better that John Federman is in the Senate than Dr. Oz would have been,

who is supporting Jesse Smollett and trans kids? Yeah. Thank you. I donated to Federman's campaign. Everyone's like, you're crazy. I'm like, first of all, there is a non-zero chance that he goes full Hulk, has snaps and starts cracking people's heads on the Senate floor. I want to see that.

This recovery's been amazing. Yes. And he's not as far left as Republicans' latest. It is, and it's a lot easier for the, in the same way that the establishment rhinos are much better at fighting Trump and keeping MAGA at bay. Those moderate Democrats, quote-unquote moderate Democrats, are not better shutting up the leftist than the Republicans are. AOC

and the squad got shot up by Nancy Pelosi. Hillary Clinton got Bernie Sanders shut up. These aren't Republicans to do this. These are the Democrats who got their own wing to sit down and shut the fuck up. Yeah, I was thinking like, why did it go with Ozma? He's a pill pusher. Yeah. When he had his show, I was like, him or senator?

It can't make no sense. Because we've been raised in this, again, good guys, bad guys. Boomers especially are like, I will vote for any Republican. they're better than the Democrat. Maybe that's true in paper. And then they're like, all our Congress is full of rhinos. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Sometimes you want to take the loss and have a better long term, just like it was good that Romney lost in 2012 so you could have Trump in 2016. I think regardless of whoever's our president, he's still going to print us our money into Bolivian. They're going to debase our currency. I think Trump is better on that than Biden by far.

So that is something. You think he would curve the deficit? I think the thing with the Federal Reserve, I think Trump as a The thing is, as a real estate guy, you know about inflation because then it's like mortgage rates and all this other stuff.

So that's something he has personal interest in. So that's an example where I think it's very clear to make the argument for Trump. So I'm not giving you a straight answer because people want to be like A or B and it's like there's a, it's all about tradeoffs. Well, it sounds like to me, he says vote for Trump. You know?

I smell of Biden supporter. You just said it itself. This dude sounds like a fucking Biden's kid. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on. I have to confess something. Yeah. I did vote.

I did, I don't vote. I did contribute money for Biden in the primaries. You are such an asshole. Hold on. Hold on. Because I want him to be the nominee, because I wanted the media to try telling everyone that this weekend of Bernie's situation isn't really happening and he's very articulate and knows what's going on.

And that has come true. So you wanted this. Yes. I donated to Biden in the, and I donate to Hershey Walker also because he was. Playing a lot. He was crazy. No, he talked about in his book hearing voices and telling him to kill people. So I'm like, I want this guy to set it.

Maybe he'll do it. You really love an anarchist. Maybe he would do it. You're telling me it would be hilarious if Herschel Walker pulls out a piece on the set of floor and is like, it's Herschel's day and just starts popping people off. I understand that why you're coming from a point of view because you're an anarchist. Am I, but am I. But am I wrong?

Not necessarily. I like Hers. I gave money to Hers. I like him. It is finally here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is finally here. Look at that beautiful package.

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I wish. That's who you would vote for. Why the fuck is my neighbor telling me what to do with my life? If that makes zero sense. If that shit was really true, you would vote for him, right? Well, I would contribute to him. Yeah. I would vote for him.

What does that, when they say democracy, they mean control. So when they say someone's a threat to our democracy, they mean someone's a threat to our control. That's exactly what they're verbated. Every time. A lot of people say they're talking about us, no, they're talking about them. Yes, always. Literally 100% of the time. Yeah.

We don't even live in a democracy. Good. Wait, do you want, seriously, you want to go to a supermarket and have a vote on what you can buy? No, hell no. Of course not. Yeah. But I know the system we live in is not perfect. And the things you express to us today on our show, I mean, it makes sense.

I mean, we need to take a lot of power from our government. Because they are ruining it. Everything that's wrong in our country is because of the government. Part, not everything, but a lot. Yeah, a majority of it. But this is the thing. We're all flawed. Sure.

Even Jewish people. Everybody's flawed. So long as we... It came with a good black joke, man. Yeah, he said, we... I got him back for that body building shit. But he came back with the mug joke, man. Joke.

You said I thought I'm getting mugged. I was that a joke. You only said that because we're black. That wasn't a joke. That was my feeling. Okay. Okay, I'll give you too much credit. So the reason why I say that, as long as everybody's flawed,

your system of government, whether it's the bullshit that we got now, the anarchist system, privatizing everything, it's going to be flawed because we're all flawed. Yeah, but the thing is when you have a monologism. It's not just that it corrupts. It attracts the corrupted. In the same way that like, you know, child abuse happens a lot in schools because they know that's where the kids are. So that go where their prey is. Right, right. If I can only have power through if I'm not bringing much to the table, but I'm charismatic, which is probably the case. It's a great way for me to get become a big shot by becoming a politician. So it attracts the worst kind of people. And in an arcist system, everything's privatized and every private company that we are. seeking service from, they would have to compete against one another. It's like a cell phone company. And if you're running a fucked up cell phone company, your competitor be like,

look at this guy. He's an asshole. You don't want to be with that company. You want to be with my company. Look what he does. So you're a pro-capitalist. I don't like that word because I think capitalism of the original meaning is what we have now in the sense of corporations running the government. Well, a lot of things wrong with capitalism.

It's not even capitalism. It's just crony capitalism. But that's kind of just playing semantics. Yeah, but it seems like you on our true capitalist system. I mean, you don't like that word, but it will be true. People will have to compete. Yes. When you have people competing for people's services,

they have to provide a great product. So he believes in the free market. Yes. Yes. Yeah. But don't you think we have anarchy at our border? No, because anarchy would mean that the people on the border could pick off people and protect their land.

Yeah. It's a government forcing people to put their guns down. Yeah. Hey, you're growing on me. I like that. All right. All right. All right.

Here's my wallet. You asshole. I think that term anarchist, that was good. Yeah. You choose come over some good black jokes. I did two books with D.L. Hughley. Oh, you did?

I know this song and dance. Oh, okay. Oh, for D.L. Yeah. He doesn't like me. He's big fans of us. Oh, he hates you guys? Oh, he hates us in the worst life.

Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. I had a great experience work with him. I learned a lot from him, so I'm sorry to hear this. Next time you say him, I think he's an asshole. I haven't talked to him in a few years, but I enjoyed working with him immensely. Yeah, I think that term anarchist, it really rubs to people a long way because it is a negative connotation. Negative connotation. But I got to say something.

Yeah. I'd rather be the velvet rope than Walmart. I'd rather alienate people who are put off just by word because you can't really work with them. And I'd rather work with people who sit and think and like, oh, you know, I'm misunderstood. because those are the ones you want in your sleeper cell. The other ones are just bandwagon jumpers and they're not in much use. You're not wasting your time with the guy that says he's a woman, right?

So in the anarchist, can't fucking think. I see this video, this two transgenderists, they just gave birth. The one that gave birth looks like a dude, taking all these homoids in the other one that's the dude that impregnated her, looks like a woman. And then the one that looks like a woman,

but it's actually a dude is trying to breastfeed the kid. Okay, I'm going to ask a question. I'm not even kidding. Okay. Surely you can see, we're talking about tradeoffs. Surely you can see the upside

of biological females taking testosterone and being more logical and less emotional. These people are not more logical. No, but if a female, biological female takes test, she's going to think,

if a male takes estrogen, he's going to be a mess, right? Because you're going to a hormonal mess. Someone doesn't take their AI. They're all over the place, right? Right. So if a biological female takes testosterone, she's going to be thinking more like a male,

which is coherent, logical. A lot of these female to male go in higher rates to engineering and math programs because their brains start working differently. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Think about it, though. I only concentrate on the male or the female. They're all crazy.

Yeah, but if you talk to Abigail Shire, she wrote that book, which talks about this, It's become a thing now because we're old, right? With the kids, it's more common for the females to want to convert to male. When we were kids, it's always in one direction. It was always male want to become female. And that's a very new phenomenon. And I think it's much more social than it is a kind of gender dysphoria situation.

Right. So there's anarchist community. Yeah. We won't have a president. No. We wouldn't have a Congress. Well, you have an HOA, right? Homosal Associated.

Yeah, right? Got paid dues and shit. It's going to be less than your income tax. Yeah. Wouldn't it be vulnerable to like foreign, foreign nationals, attackness? I mean, I think Afghanistan just showed how hard it is to invade an area

where everyone is armed and willing to defend their country. And also America has more guns, I think they're everyone else in Earth put together. And there are a lot of people. And I'm sure it's in your fans and in my fans as well. These are men who are well-trained,

are looking for an excuse to protect their community and are being stopped from doing so by the government. And I think the more of that we have in this country, which is happening now culturally, the more of this idea of like, I know how to use my weapon, I can't defend on that cop to protect me. 2020 show that very clearly

whose side the cops are going to be on if the police is, yes. Yeah, a lot of times we think the police is conservative. We're supposed to support the police, which I do, but a lot of people forget that the cops are not our, our protectors. They're there to get revenue out of us. And they're there. Every love letter, every law

passed by Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden would be a letter to Santa without the cops enforcing it. They would enforce it. They enforce the mandates. Everything that we disagree with. And I always tell people who support the police and they have a tough job and I've been watching way too much police body camp footage and it's maybe, I'm like, okay. It's addicted, right?

But it's also like, okay, I get it. Because you got to deal with it. You have to be like, sir or ma'am to like this creature. Right. But the point is the things that they did, how much money I asked would Kathy Hokel, Governor of New York, how much money would Gavin Newsom have to give you to shut down the little girls' lemonade stand? How much money would Gretchen Whitmer, governor of Michigan, have to pay you to tell someone,

sorry, you can't have a funeral for your grandmother? Like, there's no amount of money I would take. So this idea that police are angels, they're human beings. And they take a lot of money to do some very evil things, and they know it. And it's tough for them. But that's something that's their own conscience to grapple with. Yeah, I know during the whole mandates and COVID lockdowns, I mean, we were the biggest supporters, but they were our biggest oppressors during that time. They arrested Kyle Rittenhouse. Yeah.

Because he was doing their job. Yeah. And they would, and people who think they're not going to come take your guns if that's the law. They'll be the press ones. Of course they would. Because they would do whatever the government. Yes. Yes.

And they'd have the SWAT teams and those guys can't wait to break down the door of someone who's nonviolent and, you know, throw a flash grenade in a baby's crib. Or shoot the dog. Was it? A dog is shot by the cops like every five minutes in this gun? Yeah. Something crazy like that? I'm like every other day I hear about how the cops are called, but they go to the wrong house. Yeah.

And it's always a black guy that answers his door and they shoot him. It just happened to. In his own house. In his own house. His own house. As he opens the door. Yes. Yeah.

And then they're like, well, he had a gun in his hand. Well, yeah. You beat on the door. Yeah. Yes. I wanted to. He's not pointing it. You saw that story.

You saw that, right? Get this. And they're defending him. The cops. Yeah. That's crazy. Because when he's telling him he's a cop, he's beating him. You cannot hear what the cop is saying.

You should just say, the police. This is the police. But no, he says when he's, I'm the police. He can't hear you. And you know what? If that's the case, then if I'm a burglar, I'll just do that. Oh, I'm the police. Oh, no one's home.

I can invade. Yeah. Right. Right. Exactly. You have something called castle doctrine, which a lot of states have passed, thankfully. Yeah. Which is, if anyone comes to your house, you can shoot them in your house.

Your home is your castle. That's exactly the way it should be. What is it? Unless there is a hospital. the situation, right? Or like, okay, if someone's about to get their throat slit, you got to break down the door. I don't care if there's drugs, a gun hoard,

if something is not an imminent harm, someone's self-harm, maybe about to kill ourselves. You don't need to be breaking down doors, period. And why are you putting the cops lives at risk too? Right. You know what, Michael, whenever the cops come to my house, my door, I never opened. I talk through them through the P-Hoh. Exactly. I never opened my door.

Maybe you got a little rushing to you. That's our mindset, too. I got a little anarchist. Yes. Why do you answer, do not answer the, like, do not answer. That's the worst thing you do. And do not tell them anything. You can talk your way into an arrest.

You can't talk your way out of war. Because a lot of people understand from the moment a cop starts talking to you, that's an interrogation. Yes. And he has a job to get as many arrests as possible. Right. Which is a conflict. Yes. A lot of cops don't even know the law.

Of course not. And have you seen these videos where these people go around that they call themselves First Amendment auditors? Yeah. First Amendment orders? Your favorite amendment? My favorite amendment is the second. Yeah. But when they interact with the cops, they interact with the cops.

And the cops that I need to get this information, he said, no, I don't answer questions. He's like, why, you impede my investigation. I'm going to arrest you for obstruction. Right. And they do it. And it's like, the cops don't even know the law. But the thing is, this is what I'm talking about. It's a monopoly.

Those cops have no consequences. Yeah. They can hide behind immunity. Imagine if I'm a bouncer and I grab you and I throw you in my car, I'm fired and there's a lawsuit. That cop won't even get a demotion. Yeah. He's just going to get retrained.

There's no consequences. These cops are killing people. And he's, they're still in. the job. Right. That's my, that's what happens when you have a monopoly when there's no competition and no accountability. That was in Arizona where there was someone crawling in the hotel room and they shot him,

you know. I saw that. That was horrible. Yeah, I saw it as a white guy, right? Yes. Yeah. I've seen this one video where the cops came to his premises and the guy that called the cops, he went out there to meet the cops. He got into an alter catch with the cop. The cops shot and killed him. He's right down the ground, bleed and dying.

He dies. His daughter comes out. And he's all my God, you shot my dad. He's the one they called you guys, right? And then the cops told her, calm down, everything's going to be okay. Her dad's already dead. Well, maybe he's saying he's daddy now. Yeah, it's like, that video was so infuriating, and she was like

hysterical, and the cops had no emotion. And how many times you see a cop fairly shoot somebody, then they go over there and put him in handcuffs while he's done? And there's no, but the thing is, I can, I don't think this is like all cops at all. But where are the repercussions? Right. If I'm a chef, and I

undercooked chicken, and you eat my chicken, and you die. It's not like, well, I guess I'll just learn better next time. I should not be cooking, period. And there's one video which really was crazy where the cop shot the guy, he was in the back seat or in the driver's seat. And the woman has her hands on the wheel. And she's freaking out.

And she's still calling the cop, sir. And it's just like this, that made me so angry. Right. You have to be the one, be calm. Whereas he just killed your boyfriend, whoever was fiance in front of you. Yeah. Yeah. And I see a lot of cops, man.

actually they instigates, they create the problem. The problem never exists. Well, power corrupts. But what's really great is these body cam videos have shown both how wonderful many cops are at the job and try to de-escalate. And also how like all these things like, cops don't ever plant drugs. That's just, that's a paranoia. That's just a myth. That's an excuse you have.

And then you see it's like, oh, okay, maybe these people weren't totally cut out of their ass. Could you imagine what it was like? I mean, we all saw that Rodney King video years ago. I was in House of the time. Could you imagine what it was to be like? There was no body cams or anything like that? No cell phones? Right.

Oh, my God. You see how cups reacting, there's cell phones everywhere, and they're still behaving in there, man. Negroes is getting that ass, what? I don't like that one. What, Negro? Ass. No kidding.

Oh. I'm messing with you. I'm messing with you. Man, you're great at joke writing. Great at joke writing. Next time I go to road, I'm going to call you up, Edson. I need some jokes. Okay.

We'll have a little bit, a lot of fun. I'll charge you a good ring, too. I'll get it for your wholesale. Real sale? You could rip me off. He's going to tell you it's on sale. But it's hiding it won't. Yes.

That's how it works. He's on to us. What do you think about these colleges, these protesting colleges? I think any, okay, if you're, here's my, work with me. You're laughing. Work with me. Okay. Yeah.

If you're going to have police, right, and a government monopoly in police, you're going to have police brutality. If you're going to have police brutality, shouldn't it be against like Ivy League students as opposed to like old ladies and poor people? Right. I'm just, I was just watching.

They got tense. They're moving in. So I'm, so here, bear with me. Let's do it again. Right. I don't want to have police brutality,

but if I do have it. Yeah. That's where I want, like if I have, it's got a mean something. I don't want cancer. But if I have cancer, I want melanoma.

I don't want pancreatic, right? So Ottawa police brutality, but we got it. So, you know, Ivy League kids, if there's anyone else who can use their heads cracked open under any pretense, I... I think this next upcoming election is going to be, like, very volatile. It is. Whether Biden wins or if Trump wins, it's going to... Do you think we're, like, on the verge of a civil war? Just something just horribly happening in this country?

Like, January 6th, paint there as an insurrection. Do you see something worse happening? Yes. because I think our this is the first time I think where both parties or the base of both parties think a victory by the other person would be illegitimate. Right. So if Hillary had won in 2016, Republicans would be like, all right, like, you know, they pulled out all the stops. I get it.

Like he couldn't have won. 2012, Romney people were like, okay, Obama won. But this is the first time where it's like, nope, this is not real. And once that starts happening, a lot of wheels start falling off buses. And I don't know where that ends up. But it's not, you got to really stick that landing. Because I think when people on the right engage in violence, which we have not seen, it looks very different from 2020.

It's much scarier because it's much more focused and much more targeted and much more lasting. Yeah, people would actually die. Yeah. And it would really be like, all right, we're not playing anymore. Like, this is how it's going to be going forward. And I don't, but at the same time, if Trump, you know, gets reelected, I mean, the level of, I mean, they're ready to get using the legal system against him, which was kind of unprecedented. Right. Like, I think that's all political, right?

Well, I asked my liberal friend, Destiny, nope, he's guilty sin. Not, okay, I do think he paid off Stormy Daniels. Yeah, but that's not a crime. But the point is, if he wasn't running her president again, do you think they would come? care? Like, who would care? No one would care. So, yes, a lot of people, like, look who's prosecuted in this country. Again, being an anarchist, it's the prosecutors aside, you can look at the guy who was killed on New York subway who tried to kidnap a girl, punched an old lady in the face, punched an old man in the face, 30 arrests. He's walking the streets. The Michael Jackson

in person. Yes. So they, Jordan Ely, I think, was, or was Dr. Gilder, whatever it was. Yeah. They prosecute who is, they want to prosecute and let plenty of people. I was just in Japan. Have you guys ever been? No. Oh, you'd absolutely love it. You'd absolutely love it. Go get some of that long time, actually. Holy fuck. Hey, hey, I got some good ones. I might not be Jewish, but I'm a close second. I don't know, you got that rabbi beard, so maybe something's going on there.

You like a rabbi smoothie. Yeah, yeah, you got a little hat on. Oh, you need is the hat. He's got a hat, a little hat, a little hat. It counts. A little bit smaller, though. When you see how Tokyo is at night, everyone's out, everyone's drunk, everyone has a good time, you realize what's going on New York, L.A. and Chicago is on purpose. They could stop this in five minutes. They know what to do.

It's not complicated. You just have to have more enforcement of the law. And again, one of the reasons I'm an anarchist is the government has the law, but it chooses to enforce it on people to protect themselves as opposed to the criminals who have making things bad for everybody else. Yeah. Yeah. I'm saying politicians was saying defund the police, but it was hiring private security. Do you think there's any proof to this? Like some black people say,

this country is systemic and racist. I don't think it's systemic and racist, but I do think there's a system in place to ensure that black people destroy themselves. Ooh, this kind of systemic racism is one of those words that can mean anything you want. So then if you say, oh, you're saying people didn't used to be lynched.

It's just, you know, they kind of tap dance around it. It's like, define what you mean. I do think there are certain advantages I have over black people in certain communities. I think there's certain advantages black people have over me. Like, I can't go in certain neighborhoods that you guys can go into, right? That's probably, I can't go in those neighborhoods neither. Yeah, but you would have an easier chance than me because I'd be praying.

Slightly. Slightly, but it's still a slight advantage. Yeah. But at the same time, does that really matter at the end of the day I don't think it does? So this kind of systemic racism is often an excuse to kind of just put over whatever policies you want to begin with. Yeah. I don't, what do you mean by like black people destroy themselves? I think that's a system in place to ensure that black people destroy themselves.

Like our music, television shows. Everything that's green like to entertain black people is like detrimental. Like our rap music, sexy raid, all these rappers, it just preaches violence. Sex. Sexualization. Yeah, it's just no accountability. But I think it also, a lot of those forms of entertainment are also geared toward white people and suburban white kids. Like isn't the majority of rap music consumed by white people?

Most definitely. So, yeah, it's to both. And I do, you guys should really have Jesse Lee Peterson on by the way. Have you had him on? He's reached out to us. He's reached out. I just been busy.

I want to go on the show. I see your two interviews with him. It was great special to how one of them ended. That was my edit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was so great. I was like, I would have seen the rest. What happened?

So I do think that, speaking as a Jewish person, if you think that some other community is going to come in and save you, you're crazy. It's never going to happen. Right. So the more black people focus on being assets to their own community

and taking responsibility for their own community with the limited resource they have, first of all, the better risk for everyone in the short term, it's also longer lasting because if you have those structures, which in some cases the welfare state has destroyed, because there were these strong black communities. I think the infrastructure around the black community is to ensure that we victimize each other. Right. You know what it's like?

I'm going to go back to the body building thing because I'm speaking your language. There's a lot of people tell you I can never be Jay Cutler. That's true, but you can sure be a lot more jacked than you are now. Right? So yeah, maybe you're a victim, maybe the deck is stacked against you.

That doesn't mean this is as good as it gets for you. You could still, maybe you're not going to have the top of the top, but you could still be a lot better off than you are now. So anytime you have, this is also this kind of black pill thing in the sense of like the West is done, anytime people convince you that it's a lost cause, there's no hope they've won.

They don't have to do anything. You're just going to pack it in, go home, and now they can do whatever the hell they want. Do you think the Democrats were sincere when it was offering reparations? It's sincere as a bribe. Yeah, Rob, but I think it was just a ploy to keep black people thinking a certain way.

You actually think they had their sincerity behind it that it was actually going to pay black people reparations. I'm totally against it. Okay, here's how the term reparations. Let's suppose I run you over and I break your leg. Right. Your hospital bill's 10 grand and then you're out of work for six months. It's 100 grand. I give you one 10, maybe some for pain and suffering.

I've given you reparations. We're square. You are back to where you were. Right. So if this reparations were true, that means the black people get a check and racism's done. We're square. They're not saying that at all. They're not saying, okay.

They'll never say that. They'll never say this will pay off past injustice and now we can move on and racism is done. They're not saying that. So it's not even reparations in their own. that's not what the word means. It's just literally a bribe. And first of all, this is also saying that a lot of those black people accomplished a lot in this country, even given what they were up against in the past. So, and people talk about this constant like black history and things like that. This is trying to make out every single black person who have been a victim of racism

and to the same extent. And that's also not true. Right. Yeah. I just like, growing up black, I was taught to victimize myself. Really? Like, how do they say, like, what form did I take? Because it's fascinating. I remember as a little kid, my teacher. My teacher. teacher telling me, you say you'll never be a doctor, but you people are really good with your hands. No, shut up. Was it white teacher? You're the white teacher? Well, we grew up in the South, and the country was different then, because I'm going to be 50.

I'm not like 30, but the country is a lot different when we grew up. But it's just like the black community. It's like they think they can't achieve greatness in this country just because they cover the skin. They actually believed that. And I was believing that for the first 25, 30 years of my life. And my mom told me this, because she grew up through Jim Crow South. Sure. She had horror stories.

Of course. She had bipolar, stuff from her from rest of life. So I got all this horror stories, and she would always preach to me, a Democrats are for black people, Republicans of the Lynch, and this stupid shit. So a majority of my adult life, I was always victim by myself. And it really was a detriment until I actually woke up one morning, and I looked in the mirror and I said, I'm going to accomplish something with my life. Yeah.

That's when my life changed. Black people. But Democrats do not push that message. Right. Yeah. They're pushing systemic racism. That's why I say there's a. system to ensure that black people do not excel in this country. It's a system in place to keep

them victimizing each other. But I got to say it's not about having a majority is having an alternative. Just like just having Elon owning Twinter is enough. He's my favorite African American. I had that line too. Just that one outlet is enough to make up for all the other sites. There is a, there are a lot of black voices like the HOTEPs who are pushing for responsibility, black excellence you can achieve. And as long as even there's a small possibility to have, and that number is increasing, I think. As long as you even have that voice out there as an alternative, it's going to reach, maybe not enough, but plenty of the right minds. We're like, wait a minute. And this was kind of a hokey example, but I think it is

true that the Cosby show, when he was on TV, he's a doctor and the wife's a lawyer. For a lot of people, it opened their eyes like, oh, wait a minute, you know what? I can visualize it now. And that's not a minor deal. Yeah, now look what they're looking at. Tyler Purr. Oh, I thought you meant that you could be a doctor who's also a rapist. and get away with it for decades and ever will think you're America's dad. Not a bad gig. Right, right.

That's what I thought you meant. That's logical what you said. Now, you've got like the real, what is it, the housewives of Atlanta? Yeah. You don't like needy leaks? Huh? You don't like needy leaks? Oh, God.

It's the Antichrist. I mean, the antichrist. The antichrist. Like the filth that you see for. And it's tailored towards black community. A lot of times you see black women behave a lot like men. But I don't think it's tailored to our black. I don't think black men watch real Housewives, Atlanta.

Black women watch it. Yeah, and that's a problem. That's a huge problem. It is a problem because who wants to date a woman who's like that? That's why I don't date them. Right. So let me ask you this real quick. Like, do you see some of the entertainment for black people like the music,

that show Housewives? It's green. It's been green, I used to subscribe for a little bit to the Zeus Network, so I really know. Okay, cool. The Zeus Network? Yes, do you know it? Yeah.

It was King Bach was on in D. Storm. I was watching the Bobby Light Show because it was absolutely hilarious. I'm like, okay, America's over. Like, that's when I get to Fres. Like, America's a rap. Just this Bobby. Because do you guys, are you guys fans of Rolling Ray? I don't think I've heard of that.

Oh, Rolling Ray. He's in a wheelchair and he just talks. Roland Ray. Yes. And he was on divorce court. And it was just, he's got his extensions. He's got his nails. He's got his purse.

He's just... He's gay? Yeah, very. I was like, is he talking about a woman? No, no. He's talking about a guy. And he just got caught in a fire recently. He's in a coma.

Yeah. So, I was tragic. It's tragic. So I was going to ask you, it's like, the black community embraces, like, ghetto stuff, right? But it's being greenlit to put out in front of black people. Why do you think that same type of entertainment is not green-lit and pushed in front of, let's say, the Jewish community? Well, the Jewish community. Well, the Jewish community.

community, Fiddler on the roof is about the ghetto. So the ghetto was a Jewish thing for a very long time. I think the issue is when you are poor and you have no opportunities and you're not educated and you see an easy way to get money, and you're young and dumb, it becomes

a status thing. Okay, so Jewish community is smart, like people are stupid. No, I'm not saying that. Well, they're not educated. They don't have, like, research. Like, Jewish people are very successful, very rich. As a whole, like,

compared to all other demographics. Do you know what the biggest difference between these two communities is? You know what the answer is. What's the biggest difference? Townability. Dad's home. Yeah, dad. Yeah, dad's.

Dad's home. I mean, I don't know what the divorce rates is, especially in religious Jewish communities. It's extremely low. Even when they have 12 kids. You don't have a strong nuclear family. No, it's a strong extended family. This whole nuclear family thing is like a 1950s invention.

The extended family were grandma and grandpa. And the black people had this back in the day, too. aunts and uncles. Everyone's around cousins because if mom's, you know, a drunk or dad's deadbeat, you have insurance. You've got backup. This nuclear thing is very recent

and is not as good as the extended family in my opinion. That's a good point. If you don't have dad around, you know what I mean? It's collapsed. And mom and your grandma and your grandpa. And mom's watch, I'm not even joking. If mom's watching real housewives

and that's her model for how a woman should behave, what kind of man is that son going to grow up to me? Perfect example. Barack Obama. He was raised by white people. Yeah, extended family. Extended family. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's the perfect example which you, you, uh, shirt. Yeah. Yeah. What are you going to say? What are you going to say something, stupid? You're going to say some stupid. You're going to say something stupid.

Like people should switch to Judaism, but you can't. Like Sammy Davis Jr. You can do that. You could switch to Judaism. I thought you could be born into it. No, you can convert. It's just a year-long process. It's not like Christianity.

It's a long process. It's a long process. No, no. It's like a, you know, no. Make it hard for the Negro. Like the illegal egware. It's a long process. My friend did it.

It takes a year and you're going to be repudiated three times because you want to be sure that the person really wants to convert. And they got to have two fridges and keep kosher and do all this things. Oh, I didn't know that. I thought it was born to be born. You can be born. Anyone who's born Jewish is Jewish. But if you want to convert, if you're black, there's a large Jewish population in Ethiopia. Ethiopian Jews.

It's a big thing. Right. Oh, I didn't know. Yeah, yeah. So what I got to do is just use. you use you as a reference? Oh no, I can't vouch for you. I'm not going to lose my J-card.

Are you fucking crazy? I'm not losing. I'm not losing. I'm not losing. I wouldn't want to lose it. This is the best card ever. It's better than the black card. It's better than a white card. You want that Jewish card. That's like that platinum capital card. I get the best interest rates.

I get like 80 holidays a year. You guys own the banks. I can I could just pretend, oh, it's a Jewish holiday. can't come into work. You're not going to know. I can't take off whenever I want. You can't even, I can't even criticize you. I can't even go. He's Jewish. I can't even say anything.

But you can convert if you wanted to. Oh, that's a whole problem. It's inclusive. It's inclusive. It's not inclusive. It's very exclusive. Yeah. You have to prove yourself. Yes. That's exclusive. But you want to be an excuse. Again, we're talking earlier. You want that, you don't want to just let anybody in.

Yeah. Yeah. Look at the black club. You don't want to be in that club. They let anybody in. They threw us out the club, right? Hey, hey, they threw us out the club. I was like, I don't give a shit. My credit score went up 100% thing. I can't put on my cup.

Hey, you're the heart twins, right? I love you guys. Slow down. You're going to kill somebody. Get out of here. Here's $100. Yeah. You think I want that impression on me?

Yeah. Oh, my God. I don't know how many times I've been put all by the cop. Man, you're the horse twins? Man, just slow down. You're going to kill somebody. Really? Yeah.

That's great. Oh, you got that beer to you, a rabbi too? I got the C card. Yeah, got a damn good episode going on. And before we get to that, hey, over 94% of y'all are watching, but you ain't subscribe. What kind of bullshit is that? Did you forget? We got a lot of damn good shows coming.

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Hit the bell for notification so y'all get notified whenever we got a damn new show coming. These people, they got brains. They know how to subscribe and well, the white producers are telling us to say that shit. There's clearly an attack on masculinity, you know, in this country, in the West, explicitly, constantly.

And to me, you can be masculine and be a female. Masculinity, what they mean is someone who is assertion, without being over the top, a leader, someone who is accomplished, someone who is goal-oriented, someone who's ambitious, someone who's an asset to their community, that is what masculinity means to me. Some females are capable of doing that. Strong leaders.

People are a bunch of followers. Yes. Yeah, toxic masculinity is bad, but toxic femininity is perfect. Yeah, just screaming in your car at the top of your lungs and expecting people to do whatever you want just because of whatever. Speaking of Japan, this is what's crazy. there's no testosterone in that whole culture. Their vision of masculinity is the boy band.

Yeah, like the men, they're a very feminine. And they have lipstick now. Yeah, a lot of that culture women are her. It's like... Yes, it's like Bieber shit. And that culture doesn't like masculine muscular men. No, it's very weird. And the thing is, they have something called host bars.

Yeah. And that's what these billboards are. You as a female go to this bar. You give this guy money, and he pours your drink and lights your cigarette and listen to your bullshit. I don't think they're even fucking. And so it's a culture that's very collectivist

and consensus-oriented. And that's the female way of reaching decisions. We sit around the table, everyone has their say, let's reach a consensus. Most of the masculine vision, it's like, I'm the leader, here's how it's going to be. Let me hear you out. Let me hear you out.

Buck stops here, okay. Got your marching orders. Okay, sir, let's go. Let's do it. Marines, I'm sure it's very top-down masculine approach. So it's interesting to me in Japan. It's a chicken egg, which came first, the female decision making process or this low-tie thing, but it's crazy.

So if we went that, we'd be seen like as freaks? No, you'd be seen as Godzilla. Yeah. They'd be running from you. Two, there's two Godzilla. Two Godzilla. Two Godzilla. Oh, la-la-la-la.

It is, I don't know, it's, there's no, it's, I know there's, I know there's, I know there's, I, I know there's some Japanese bodybuilders, but they're very, it would definitely stand out. Yeah. Do you see any black people there? There were a few, yeah. Yeah, I see on TikTok. Black people speaking fluently, yeah. You couldn't see them at night, but you could see them during the day.

Well, unless they were smiling. And their eyes open, right? No, the Japanese eyes are pretty closed. It's more simple. You are a boat of fresh air. A boat? Yeah. Well, I got to be a boat.

A boat. I told you, I totally George Bush that shit. Boat of life. What's the, what's the, what? I thought you, people don't like boats. You learned that lesson. I don't like boats. I can't swim.

You know, beacon of life. Yeah, a beacon of life. Boat of fresh air. All boats are fresh air. They're outside. Boat of fresh air. Burst of fresh air. Yeah, burst of fresh air.

Because a lot of people so sensitive. Breath of fresh air. Yeah, a lot of people so sensitive. They don't like the joke. Like, you look at, like, perfect example. Come to America. That first movie. Yes.

Excellent. Yeah. That second movie, they were scared to offend anybody. The movie was horrible. I think white people are more sensitive about racial jokes than black people are,

from my experience. They most definitely are. Coming from Brooklyn, working with D.L., it's much easier than have these jokes. Because you guys have to, you guys mean,

both you individually and black people in general, you know the big difference between someone's joking, someone's actually being racist and looking at you a certain way. Oh, is that your baby? Oh, it's so cute.

What's your name? Oh, Sheneek. I love that name. What's that mean? You know that voice that white women do? Right. That is racism.

Yeah. Yeah. Because they're scared to talk to you like a person. They patronize. Exactly. Yeah. Coming off so kind and saying like this. Exactly. I think you can't pick up on it.

Yeah. You can totally pick up. Of course you could pick up on it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. Can I touch your hair? Yeah.

Like they're like some kind of zebra. Like it's a fucking bearer. You like pet my kid like he's a dog. Get the hell. away from me. But you said something earlier it's just moral superiority. They just want to be nice and then, you know, acknowledge

that you're different. Probably that's why they do it. Yeah, but they come off like a piece of shit. But you're not that, but you're not different in that context. You're a dad with a kid. How are you different? Yeah. You know, it's ridiculous. Right. Yeah, like people get caught up too much in our differences. Well, I think they're also, white people have been very trained in this country

to be terrified of saying the wrong thing about black people and always, it's just like, hey, hey, hey, hey, They're human beings. You know, people can tell different between someone being a dick and someone joking around. Yeah. It's not hard.

It's not a thin line either. Right. Right. How do you feel about what Republicans are saying? There's a growing anti-white sentiment. Well, I mean, explicitly so, right? All these books. But it's just a manipulation technique.

You know what I mean? It's ridiculous. Well, it's all coming from the left and then the left says, diversity is our strength. It's a streak for them. Not for the country. Well, they don't really...

I remember I was talking to conservatives in before 2020. And they all said the Democrats are never going to nominate another white man again. It'll never happen. It'll never happen. Pete Buttigieg, Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden. They say one thing. Oh, we want diversity.

But Kamala Harris is just a token hire. She's not having any power. They're not Gavin Newsom, Hillary Clinton. They're not giving a power. You have the House Minority Leader. That's an exception. But by and large, they say one thing, but it's just really having some in the corner. who's just going to be there because and they owe their job to you as the white leader.

Right. At the end of the day, we talked about this a lot. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. At the end of the day, black people are arguing about whose races and not and say, hey, we're still, we're so stupid.

We're voting. We still voting for white people. But we actually arguing who's white man's the best. But it's also like, okay, fine, they're racist. Make something of yourself. Yeah. Fight, fucking show them up with their own game. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Like a president has never had any influence on my life. Never. Well, taxes. Huh? Taxes? Yeah, taxes, but it didn't have really a control of my life. I've been successful when Obama was in office, when Trump was open.

I'm always successful. Well, but hold on. There's one difference, though. You were in the Marines. So that's a very big difference who's commander-in-chief, because that could have life of death for you. I mean, I'm just from my perspective. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They're the common man. Yeah, when Joe Biden was, he was kicking out of military because he didn't want to take that vaccine. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Or what about, you know, what's going on that, with Afghanistan with all the things like that. Right. That was nuts.

Yes. People hanging off planes. I think they pulled it out a little too quick. They left the keys in the car. It was absolutely crazy. I liked that another. But they literally did. Left the keys in the car.

The car? They left the tanks there. They did, though. They didn't even blow them up. And then they lied about it. They said, oh, no, we blew up everything. What the fuck you're talking about? We have the video.

You can't lie anymore because everyone has a cell phone. Just like I was talking about the cops earlier. If everyone can film, it's much harder to get over your bullshit. Right. Right. Hey, Michael, this has been a great show. It's been a very enlightening show. Oh, but before we let you go, man, I want to show this one clip. Oh, boy. What is it? Oh, God. Okay, I'm getting set up.

What is it? No, I'm not saying you are. What is it all? Me and you are friends now. I'll never do that. Okay. What's this? Bring up the clip. Oh, this one. Oh, you're going to steal, pause, pause, pause this. You're going to steal my joke? No, no, no, no. Okay. I said, I'll never steal a joke. system, no more teaching this garbage to the children. Funny out of time, what has been your favorite part of this interview?

Your attitude. You have an amazing attitude. And I love the way you communicate. The questions you ask is not personal. And especially being a Jew, you're a Jew, right? I saw that, man. I was like, what in the hair? I told my producer, heart out.

Right. This is a perfect ending. That was, you're a true, right? I came across the in the comments of man. That is the absolute best ending to any podcast ever. Of all the time. Yes, sir.

Hey, is it any truth to that? I'm a Jew. I came across. There's a lot of truth. I can show you, but I don't want to. I believe you. I came across. He didn't get it.

No, I got it. What's that guy's name? Seinfeld? No, he said, when you referred to. somebody is a Jew? Oh, is it, is it derogatory to call somebody a Jew? Well, in my opinion, it depends what the person means. Yeah, the context

is the context. Right, if someone's like, hey, look at that black over there. You're right, you know what I mean? Yeah, black is not the directorate, but if you say that black, it's just like you're, you're talking about Michael Rappaport. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You had a video said it's derogatory. Nothing is derogatory. I think everything, like literally everything comes down to intent. Yeah.

Like you guys call it the N-word. You're not using it in a derogatory way. What do you think about that anti-Semitism bill? I'll tell you the truth. I was on, where was I, I was going on a road trip through New Mexico, which is a shithole, by the way. Mexico? New Mexico. New Mexico.

With a couple of my friends from high school. It's New Mexico. I like the old Mexico. It's the moment better because it doesn't look so new to me. And I look on Twitter and it's this bill by Tim Scott, who I do not have a very high opinion of. And I'm a believer in the First Amendment in the sense that the government has no right to abridge speech. And it's Tim Scott, Andy Semitism Bill, and everyone in Twitter is losing their minds. And I went to my support group, malice.locals.com.

I'm like, I'm on vacation. Is this as stupid as I think it is? And they're like, yes. And every Jewish person whose opinion I respect was like, this is the dumbest shit ever. I made it a point not to look. And I can tell you it's horrible. I would bet money it's retarded. Yes.

It's just another way for our government to regulate speech. Yeah, and here's the thing that Republicans don't get. This drives me crazy. So today it's going to be, they have this in Scotland right now. Today it's going to be, okay, I don't know the bill. You can't attack Jewish people. Tomorrow it's going to be you can't attack ouchy or any expert. You can't attack gays or use the wrong pronoun.

They have that in Canada. You can't attack hurt a black person's feelings, all these other things. So it's the Republicans who almost always lay the groundwork And then it's used to guess And we're like, oh shit, I didn't see this It's like Lucy in the football It's like at one point when you realize They will use this tool he has to do

Yeah Tim Scott is the black guy right Yes, he's a black guy Yeah The Jews is like look at the black guy Trying to help us Believe we don't need your help Hey hey hey we had that Do you know who I am? I'm Jewish

I got the Jew call We learned that lesson with Pharaoh Okay Yeah Hey Michael, man, this has been a great show. And it's been a pleasure. Yeah. Awesome, dude.

For a Jewish person, man, I love you, man. You got my faith back in the Jews. It's usually the other way around. Yeah. I'm usually like, I knew it. I knew. Don't trust him. You've been great, man.

Thank you so much.