Hodgetwins Podcast - Twins Pod - Episode 2 - Patrick Bet-David

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

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Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to another episode of the Twins podcast. We've got a great guest, only the best guest here. Yeah, we only bring the best. Only the best. Only the best. Patrick Bed David.

My man. My man. How are you guys doing it? doing. How about you? I'm doing good. It's good. Hey, when I hear your name, does it does it have a meaning behind it? Yeah, so it's the House of

David. So if it was Ben, it's the son of David, but in Assyrian, Bet Bet Bettae, house, House of David. Bet David. I'm that's deep. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The House of David. The House of David. Biblical. See, we're horrible Christians.

I think all of us are. We're all trying. There's no sixth thing as a perfect Christian. If you meet them, they walk on water. I haven't met him yet. Right. It hasn't happened. The event hasn't happened yet. The guy shows up yet or not yet. He hasn't shown up. We've been waiting on. We've been waiting

for a couple thousand years. Because things are really fucked up. You know, he's supposed to be coming back. It could happen today the way America's right now. I don't know what he's waiting on. He's waiting for the perfect time because they say God works in mysterious ways. Well, we want to talk

a lot about your life. You've had an amazing life. I mean, you're the epitome of the American dream. Yeah. Me and Keith was going over your bio. I was like, hell, man. This guy's life is almost good. It's ours. You hang in and you get that window. This is amazing how

far you came. Yeah. Let's start when you fled Iran. I want to say Iran for some reason. What's the correct pronunciation? I think Iran is the way to say. That's what I was telling you. I thought it was Iran. No, that's the nigger way of saying it. It's actually Iran.

Iran. How do you say it? Iran. As Kodja has to, Iran has them. Iran. So, Persians would say Iran. Iran. Iran. But Americans say Iran. You know, it's, where are you from? I'm from Iran.

That's like the white people with the ARAB. Yeah. They don't say it right. So I've been mispronouncing that my whole life is Iran. Iran. Iran. You said the right. Iran. I can roll my arts. He can't do that.

He can't roll his arm. Iran. You didn't roll it. Iran. Iran. That sounds masculine shit. How about me? Iran.

Yeah, that sounds pretty good. Iran. So tell us a bit about that. Your whole family, y'all fled Iran. Yes. And, I mean, why did you flee? So we lived there. I'm born in 1978.

And October 1878, revolution happens. It's the peak of the revolution. Three months later, Shah's in exile. He leaves. And then he dies a couple years later. But we're there. Khomeini takes over.

He changes everything, kills off a bunch of the generals. Anybody that was part of the Shah's regime, they escaped. They went and hid. A lot of his Savak members were hiding all over the world. They killed a bunch of Savak guys. They killed a bunch of different religions that didn't support. And we lived there. We stayed there from 78 till 89.

Some of the family was hopeful that something good would happen. The right time probably to leave Iran was. 76 was the year. We left 89. I went to school till fifth grade in Iran. Yeah, you're fleeing people who was persecuting you was, what faith was they? Oh, Muslim. Romania and the Hezbollah's laws and all those guys, you know, you would be, you would hear Mad, bad, Abriqqq, Mad, bad, Omriqqqqq. Death upon America.

I thought Muslims was the religion of peace. Man. That's what I hear. Yeah, yeah. And it's funny because you know, we had Basim Yosef on a podcast, and he's defending Palestine because his wife's family is from Palestine. Now, he escaped Egypt because they didn't like what he was saying, and then they kicked him out because he was the most viewed guy on television,

40 million viewers a week. Wow. And then we had him on a podcast a couple weeks ago, and him and Adam went at it. Adam's obviously a Jew who has been to Israel. God knows how many times. And Basim Yosef is from, you know, Egypt, his wife's from Palestine.

So he's defending that argument. But it's so interesting. This is the biggest thing. that's interesting between the two communities. The Muslim community who defends Islam, they are so, what's the word I'm looking for, maniacal on correcting you and defending their religion and lack of understanding on why the other person feels that way

and believes that way. And many of the Israelis, many of the Jews, or folks that maybe defend them, are kind of quiet and they're scared to be a little bit more vocal. It's kind of like, man, I don't want to fight this fight. You know, I don't want to fight this right now. You know, both sides can make their argument. No one wins the argument with Hamas.

You're just not going to win that argument. Even if you're a Muslim or you're one of these guys that gays for, you know, Palestine or, you know, whatever, all these guys were going to put, go ahead and be gay in Palestine and see what happens to you. That'll be a great case study. And you just need a one-way flight. You don't need to buy a round trip because you'll never see, you know, America ever again. But in Iran, man, it was, it was.

a very scary type of an environment when you're living there. And eventually my mom, I was turning 12 years old. I'm 10 at the time. She says to my dad, we can't let him stay here. And so we have to escape. We didn't have a green car to come to America, but we went to Germany. We lived at a refugee camp there for a year and a half in a city called Erlangen. What was that like?

It was actually awesome. Yeah? Had a great time. Everybody was poor. Nobody had money. Everyone's escaping socialism, communism, some dictatorship, you're from Poland, you're from Bosnia, you're from Yugoslavia. You're Christian.

Yeah, you're Christian, you're this, you're that, but everybody is trying to get away. And by the way, at the camp, we also had Muslims escape in Afghanistan. We had people that were, you know, Muslims not wanting to be the country that we're a part of. And so Czechoslovakians, and at that time, it was a, you know, a fast course of learning about everyone's culture, ethnicity, and we have nothing. no one has any money. So there is no posturing. You're broke, I'm broke, you're broke, dude, let's just go have dinner together with broke food. And then they would put the apple juice on the corner. You would go grab it. You'd come in. And it's a great experience. I learned to hustle

in Germany. Germany is the first time I learned how to make money on my own because we had no money. So I would go out there and I would recycle beer bottles at the local swimming pool. That's how I I bought my Super Mario brother, Super Nintendo 2 that was coming out. And I brought Super Nintendo 2 back to this camp. And then I dated this girl named Katzai. Serena Stav, her older brother, Jan, was my best friend. So he would play video games, and I would go with this one building, three-story building that they had not finished. And it was a great place to hide and go play.

It was a great time. And it was right next to a military base. So we would go and look at the Army base and it would blow stuff up. It was fantastic experience, year and a half. But that refugee camp, it was people from all walks in life, all face, everything. It was great. It was a crash course on human nature at an age of 10 to 12. Yeah.

That's why a lot of people get things wrong. They think they take a religion, they just take on the bad, and they don't look at the good. Like, a lot of people say Muslims are, you know, radical, but you had a lot of good experience with Muslims when you were at that refugee camp. Oh, I mean, I had good and bad. I got a standby guy that was Muslim, and one of the guys who was Muslim was one of my good friends, you know, would hang out.

And Iran, same thing. You know, I, by the way, majority of my experiences with people who are Muslim has been good. And when I say majority, I mean, 90% has been a great experience for me, not in Iran, but in the U.S. and living in Germany at the refugee camp. But unfortunately, you know, it doesn't take many to hurt the reputation of anybody. And you speak five languages. I speak Armenian, Assyrian, which is Aramaic, English, Armenian, Assy, and Persian. English and a little bit of German. So you were a medic, that's like very old

language, right? It is. Yeah. So very difficult to speak, right? Like passion of the Christ? Yeah. We understood. I didn't need translation or captions. We know exactly what he was saying. How did you learn five languages? My dad is Assyrian, so that's how I learned a Syrian. You know, my mom's Armenian, so that's how I learned Armenian.

I was born in Iran, so 10 years, I speak Farsi. My sister's married to a Persian Bahia Siamak. And U.S. been here. Germany, I lived in many for a year and a half. And then in high school, I took German as well. Dude, I still don't know English. My parents didn't know English.

That's why I don't know shit. So, well, we grew up in the South and very poor and education wasn't something black people aspired to. They couldn't, really. My parents, like dropped out of... And we were... I like to say we're black rednecks because my daddy, the way he would say pronounced certain words. He wouldn't say liquor. He wouldn't say liquor. He wouldn't say tomato. He said Mata. Yeah. So I'm going to school

and I'm talking to people and people are looking to be like, I'm crazy. Yeah, because we had a heavy accent. Heavy accent, yeah. Yeah. But that's interesting. Five languages, man.

That is nuts. Your brains doesn't ever get scrambled like when you're trying to talk in one language you switch to the next. Because I'm trying to learn Spanish. People are like, what the hell did you just say?

How is the experience? Learning a new language. Are you enjoying it or is it annoying? I'm enjoying it, but it's like rewiring my brain. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like,

context is like so different between the two languages. It's like really weird. You don't really see it or understand it until you try to take on a different language. How that culture and that language sees things differently, let's say, from an English culture. It's really weird. Like Spanish, everything is divided by female and male. Actually, when you reference females, you know it from how you pronounce the language. Same as Assyria.

Same as Assyrian. Like the way you speak, Chahe, it's the, you know, different. I would never be able to learn it. Yeah. No, I mean, a Syrian, you know, you're counting to 10. Chath, three, it's different, Arpa, five, eight, eight, eight, a chasm. It doesn't sound like you said it yet.

It sounds like I just curse you out. It sounds like you're angry. It's like you're from another planet. Yeah, but it is a different planet. Wow. Armenian, it's different. Mech, erko, yerek, four, five, wets, yot, y'etaz. Farsi is, Y, Y, Doe, Farsi, is different, right?

Yeah. But it's still, it's, the Syrian community is very small communists. Not that many of them out there. Armenian is slightly bigger, and then obviously Farsi is much big. He can do it. We can do it too, man. He's motivating me.

I'd love to see you guys speak Farsi, man, or Armenian. We'll probably fit in real good. No, when we go to the airport, man, we're always going through extra screening. There's a sense we grow up beard's out. Hey, you've been randomly selected. It's like, no, you think I'm with Famos. I'm Arabic, and you think I'm a terrorist.

Every time I go to that. How many people actually think you're, Arab or Muslim, how many people think that? When they look at us, they think we're... Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people know who we are, obviously, but it's like, why is it we always been randomly selected? It's just, yeah, it's racism. Listen, for 45 years, I try to grow a beard like that.

Really? From the Middle East, I don't have hair like that. Really? My dad can grow a beard like you guys got... That gene of hair didn't get passed down to me. Well, you know Steve Harvey, that was a... You heard about Steve Harvey? his hair? Yeah. You get a piece with your face.

Yeah. Wow. It's not a bad idea. Go by a beard. What a different look that would be fun with a beard. No, I think if you guys struggle going to the airport, that if I got a beard with the nose and the ears, I'm in trouble. I would be like, stop anywhere. At a restaurant I go to, sir, you got to get out of here.

That whole process was coming to nine six. That took how many years? I got here at 12. November 28, 1990 is when I got here. We lived in German a year and a half and then we came here. So you did it the right way, obviously. Yes. you think about what's going on at the border right now. You have some context you can share

because I don't really understand the ins and outs of coming or trying to migrate to this country legally. Well, I mean, you know, so you got what, eight and a half million people so far. In the history of America, we've never hit 225 in a month. We just had two 25 in a month. We had more, first time in the history of America where more illegal immigrants came here than babies were born in a month. First time in the history of America. More illegal immigrants coming here than babies being born. Okay, so that's a 50-50, if you look at it. Illegal immigrants, Americans being born, all right?

And, you know, they're projected to get to $12.09 million by the end of it, Biden's administration. And there's a lot of, you know, different, you ask the question, what's the motive? Why are they doing this? Why are they making it, you know, the way it is right now? There's a guy, I don't know if you guys saw the video when the guy's coming through the border,

and he's with his family just a couple days ago. And he says, you are not very, very, smart because if you were smart you would know who I am. And if you know who I am, you're going to see what I'm going to do. This guy's straight up threatening the guy that's recording. I'm saying, you're going to see what I'm going to do to you. What are you going to do, guy? What are you going to do? And the sense of entitlement, you can say these things and still be allowed to come to the country. Oh my God. The fact that, so this is the part where yesterday I'm on the Bill Marshall. We're in L.A. And I'm having a conversation. We're at the day

yesterday. We get to L.A. We have a couple of great meetings. I'm with Bill Maher. And then while we're with Bill Maher, I'm asking him questions. I said, so tell me about what you think about Newsom. I think Newsom's a very good politician. I think he's going to win. He's a winner. I said, he's a winner. I said, how do you base a winner?

I don't know. I like him. I think he's going to win. I said, well, I base a winner based on data because he said Democrats are more data driven than Republicans. They're more detailed driven than Republicans. I said, perfect. If you're claiming that Democrats are more data driven than Republicans,

Let's talk about the data, okay? If we were to rank who is the worst individual in the history of California that hurt the state, there's a very easy argument to make that Newsom is in the top five, period. He's smooth, he's formidable, very good talker, incredible, incredible deflector, can dude spin zone, like at the highest, maybe better than anybody in America today. I don't know any better spinner than him. I don't know. Biden should hire him as his press secretary.

But I think he is number one draft pick for the left to become a president. So then you got, you know, on the other side when I asked him, tell me about what, you know, stats, it's like, I don't want to talk about this. So he gets upset. Yeah, he knows. He brought it up. But top 50 states, okay? If you, I asked Bill, I said, Bill, why is your show so successful? How do you judge it that?

Is it because you're a good mouthpiece? Or how do you judge it? Data, right? because it's eyeballs. It's growing. You get millions of eyeballs. If you don't get, I said, what would happen right now

if your show started getting 200 views on every video you did? Right. He says, it wouldn't get 200 views. I said, what if it did? What if you, your show went from millions to 200 views, how would you look at it?

That's a failure. Great. Since 1851 today, there's only one person in the history of California that three years in a row, their net migration, they lost more people. Top 50 states, 2023, okay?

number one in losing the most people is California. They're at the bottom of the worst states and retaining people. Florida's number one. I think Texas is two, Tennessee is three. Worst state in losing people. California, then New York, then Illinois. Data, right? That data tells you what's going on.

So the question then becomes, why do they want these illegal immigrants to come here? AOC kind of leaked the strategy, right? And AOC said, well, we have a problem right now. We don't have an immigration problem here. We have a documentation problem. All we need to do is take these guys and do what? Make them citizens.

Okay. But here's what's going to happen. The damage has already been done. Okay, people have already entered your community. There's nothing we can do about that. They're inside here. Okay. And how many people does it take to do a 9-11?

75, 2,000, 2 million, 18 million, or one. One person is all it takes to do another 9-11, right? Only, all you need is one. So they've already infiltrated. They've already come in. Now, if you look at Biden and you look at, Obama. This one's going to be a little bit weird for Republicans to listen to. Biden is the greatest. He's the goat when it comes down to illegal immigration. There's never been a greater goat

than him in illegal immigration. He's led more people in than anybody else. Now Obama on the other end, you know what he's the goat in? Yeah. Deportation. Right? So how is it? President VP, the VP becomes president. This guy lets him the most immigrants, illegal immigrants. This guy deports the most illegal immigrants. Strategy change, right? So what do you think is going to happen if a Trump gets elected? I think Trump is going to become the goat of deportation ahead of Obama. And when they try to go and try to talk about all the fences and stuff like that,

he's going to say, you guys are delusional. Your goat of deportation is Obama. The goat of illegal immigration is Biden. You guys are so confused. You don't even know what you stand for. But the reality of it is we got to protect America. This is very dangerous what they're doing. It makes no sense.

Nobody in the right mind is going to be like, yeah, listen, I got an extra bedroom. My kids are sleeping in the other room. It's okay. I don't know who you guys are going to sleep in a bedroom. No one in the right mind, left, right center is going to do that. So it doesn't make any sense. So for us, yeah, we came here legally. And, you know, then this kind of leads to the other conversation,

which you can always tell where someone's at when you ask him this question. Here's a question. So let me ask you a question. Somebody comes to America. Who owes who? What do you mean? Who owes who more? Does America owe the immigrant more or does the immigrant owe America? That answer will tell you what that person believes in. Right. So somebody says, oh, I think America owes the immigrant. No, he doesn't. No, she doesn't. No, no, I think the immigrant owes America. Yeah, they do. Of course. I owe America. America doesn't owe me nothing. I owe America everything. That mindset has- That's what JFK said. I forget the statement I don't want to butch you know don't ask what the country can do for you you know ask what you can do for your country

but that's the concept that we've gotten away from it's you know no what can you do for him and what can the country we got to do more for our illegal immigrants well that's what that's what the Democrats want they want they condition our voters to be relying on the government and that's like who's coming into the country they're playing chess that's what they want they're going to change the demographic of this country that's why they're doing it they don't care about the safety of this

I'm convinced it. And they keep saying that's a four-white conspiracy theory, which... I mean, you just went over the... It makes perfect sense. More illegals came in than actual Americans born, first time ever. First time in the history, in the history of America, where more illegal immigrants came than Americans were born. It's a scary thought.

Again, you know what's the great thing about data? So here's a great thing about data. Remember last year, 22, December or November? Oh, raid wave. It's going to be Red Wave. What hurt us, you think? Well, I mean, Mitch McConnell pushed for Roe v. Wade, and they did it a few weeks right before midterms.

And then Red Wave was gone, and that's why McCarthy got fired. If there is a Red Wave, no Matt Gates can fire McCarthy. What are we talking about? McCarthy would still be the Speaker to House, right? But watch what happened. You know what America said? Here's what America said. Some 67%, 65% of Americans said,

look, man, this abortion stuff you're fighting to take it off. We just don't want it. By the way, 67% doesn't mean only Democrats. Some of those are also Republicans. Why would Republicans say that? Well, maybe there are Republicans that are not Christians. Maybe there are Republicans that have certain different values. I'll speak to them.

A lot of them are Christians. So, okay, a lot of them are Christians that are not like, yeah. In my own family, close, like I'm talking blood. They're like, look, man, I'm Christian, I'm this, I'm that. I kind of don't know like they did abortion. I think we should just put the bad issue, regulate it and move on. I don't know why this is still an issue. The only thing is timeline.

Like how many, you know, weeks out? Is it 12 weeks? Is it this? Is it a heartbeat? Is it that? And then you leave it to the states and do we make it a federal thing? But again, data tells us Americans want you to not touch this.

So even a Republican has to sit there and say, dang, you got to pay attention to that. The number one data right now, what Americans fear the most, the number one issue is no longer inflation, is official immigration. That's not a Republican concern. That's an American concern. So data cuts right through all the BS that people are giving you. Yeah, who do you think is funding these immigrants coming here?

Because we all see the caravans coming, but I don't think these people are actually walking to 2,000 miles to get here. Come on, think about it. 2,000 miles, that's like walking from California to Virginia. That's crazy. They're in shape. It's a lot of steps on their Fitbits. I don't believe that. I'm thinking they're on the bus and they're getting dropped out somewhere.

So who do you think is doing it? I don't know. People say it's a conspiracy theory, but these people, like when you come in a, somebody's got to be funny if they're so. poor and they don't have money. It's fun how I say all these immigrants coming. They got the country's flags on there, but they're wearing the Ditas and not an arm and stuff like that really burns me up when I see people come here and they still worship the country they're fleeing. It's like if push comes to serve something happened like World War III, who are they going to be indebted to? Are they going to be indebted to the United States or that country? You know, it's the first thing that

goes when a company gets bigger and they have many resources. Now they're going to be indebted to the got a billion dollars in the bank, you know, what's the first thing that goes? When the founder goes away, they're no longer protective of the finances because they didn't build the money to a billion dollars. They're reckless. They're no longer going to get three options on what it's going to cost. For example, how much does it cost to put all these drapes in our 600 offices nationwide? Oh, it's going to be $9.2 million. Okay, great, here's $9.2 million. No, they don't say, let's get three options and see what the alternatives. 9.2 million? What's your material? What are you guys going to charge?

What are you going to charge? 6.3 million. Okay, you just save $2.9 million. When a company now has a lot of cash, the new executives are no longer extra paying attention to the money. They're a little bit more reckless, right? So standards drops.

When the company gets bigger and now you've got 5,000 employees, it's no longer I'm staying till 630 to work. When it's 5,000 employees, you're not going to know if I'm leaving at 3.45 Because I'm no longer clocking it. You're not going to know if I'm coming at 845, not 730 like I used to.

So the state. standards is the first thing that goes when something becomes big and powerful in a family. If all of a sudden kids are raised in a family where, you know, the parents become millionaires and they have a lot of money, which is you got $22 million in a bank and you made it. You sold the business, equity, whatever happened, right? Yeah, you know what? Don't worry about it. Just sleep in.

Don't worry about it. Just do this. Don't worry. But I'll just buy this. And I'll, can you buy this? Yeah, let's buy this. Yeah, let's buy this. Yeah.

Let's buy this. So yeah, they don't value the concept of money. No, you got to earn it. That goes away. America, man, I mean, the shit show what America is they have lowered the standards and expectations of when somebody comes here. Tell me what company you go apply for a job and then the company is sitting there begging you once you're there to, you know, no, you're here. This company's been around. Make the company better.

or how can you bring value to it. We have lowered the standards in America so much. We're like, yeah, anybody can come here. No, go back to stand. I think one of the things we need to do right off the bed if somebody becomes president is one year, suspension on new immigrants, maybe two years. We don't want any applications.

Close up the board, deport the people that came here illegally. All the criminals that did what they did, get out. Two years, you're fired. Get out of here. Go find another country, not here. We love you, but go let your country take care of that problem. We already have plenty of problems here. taking care of, you go do your thing. And two years were on a hiring freeze. When I got out of the

army, I wanted to be a firefighter. Me too. You did? You look like a firefighter. They won't let me. They won't let you. I didn't make the cut. Is that, was that really the reason or no? Yeah, I didn't make the cut. Okay, so I went to become a fire. Boy, that I was too handsome. I think I was too handsome. You can't have a firefighter. That's sexy. I'll put them white boys to shame. Yeah, the men are going to be worried about their wives. I went to become a firefighter. The guys like this was in Granada Hills, Chatsworth and Balboa. He says,

Devin Shara Balbo, he says, yeah, there's a freeze. How long's a freeze? Five years. What do you mean there's a freeze? Yeah, there's a freeze of firefighters. What do you mean? We're not hiring any firefighters right now because there's a freeze. By the time they called me to become a firefighter, I was already making $100,000 a year. So I'm like, I'm not interested in that.

It was $52,000 all of your offer. So if we can have a freeze for hiring firefighters or cops, Why don't we do a two-year freeze for new immigrants? You can't. That's racist. You need more voters for Democrats. I'm okay with going to go on two-year frees. And the standards you coming in here, bring something to the table.

So that's what it is. Bring something to the table. It's common sense, but it's not about compensation. It's about the Democrat voters to there. Just show the lack of integrity of liberal politicians. All they want is to vote. They could care less about this. Yeah, they don't care about that.

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Make sure you subscribe. Hit the bell for notifications, so y'all get notified whenever we got a damn new show coming. These people, they got brains. They know how to subscribe. Well, the white producers are telling us to say that shit. When you was playing Iran, right, why did y'all choose America?

Why didn't y'all go to Canada or Europe or Africa? That's a good question. So, obviously... Africa? You know, anybody trying to go to Africa. Africa was at the top of our list, but then they changed your name. I'm just, you're kidding. My parents went to think about Africa.

Go get you a cup of cows and some water. You'd be good, huh? No, we didn't think about Africa. At least I don't think they did, but... Only people go to Africa for vacation is African. I mean, black people. Oh, this is my motherland. Didn't they get that?

They got to the safar and lick at the animals, man. Yeah, that's the one people go there. That's racially insensitive. Shut up. Cushly insensitive. Anybody trying to go look at all that African shit out there. Have you guys been or no? Hell no.

I heard it's beautiful. It's beautiful. I'm never going. Really? Mm-mm. Why wouldn't you? That's a little offensive. No, I've seen a couple white dudes get eaten by lions.

That ain't going on. So it's the lions. That's what it is. Smart. I like it. Knowing me, I'm going to be on the truck out in Safari. Oh, man, look at the beach. Beautiful zebra.

Oh, my God, it's a lot. You know, no, I'm not going. Literally zero desire to go. I have no desire. No, okay. I mean, why should I go see a country where my ancestors and my ancestors sold me to white people?

Yeah, I wouldn't go back there. That's my outlook on it. Why would I want to be there? And I think Africans, black Africans, actually look down on us. Yeah. Because we're a weak version of them. Yeah.

In what way? We victimize ourselves. Yeah. Like, people are here in America. They call themselves African-American. I'm African-American. Take your black ass to Africa, call yourself African-American. I guarantee you those Africans will laugh at you.

You're not African-American. Well, nothing means, like, racism doesn't mean anything anymore. African-American, a term doesn't mean anything because they actually think they're African, but their ethnicity is American. I don't think I have a right to call myself African-American because I'm not from Africa. Like, you're an American. I mean, I'm not going to put words in my. I'm an American.

I mean, that's my outlook on it. Yeah. I'm an American. I think that whole term, Patrick. African Americans to make black people feel less than. I think that whole term is... They don't want them to forget about racism. Yeah.

I think that's why that term was invented. It's to keep black people thinking a certain way. You remember when Morgan Freeman went on Donald Lemon and he told them that, he says, why do you have African a month? I don't want a, you know, black American month, whatever it is. I don't want that month. Do we have a white American month? Why do we have a black?

I don't want that month. Right. Take that month away from it. It's kind of weird. Don Lemon's like, look at us. You're successful. I'm successful. Since what are we worried about racism?

We have to stop talking about this. It was so awkward that Don didn't know what to say, right? Right. He didn't expect it. He didn't expect it. He didn't expect it. But going back to the question, you're asking about why we chose to come to America, right? A lot of people that leave Iran, they either go to Spain, they either go to Australia,

they either go to, you know, a couple countries in Europe or Canada or U.S. We came to Glendell because Glendell is a lot of Armenians. We have a lot of Armenian family. That's California. That's California. Because there's a Glendale in Arizona as well. Yeah. California. That's why we came here. And then my dad went to Chicago. His sister lived in Chicago,

and he moved from Chicago to L.A. So it was kind of an easy transition because it was first only me, my mom and my sister living at the refugee camp. That's where my parents got a divorce. Then we came to Glenda, California, and I graduated from Glendon High School. Oh, okay. What kind of job did you land when you first got here? I was 12 years old, so when I was 12, I didn't have a job. But at my first first job, official job, like W-2 paycheck job was Hagenadoz. I was an incredible, you know, banana split guy. I was a rock star at Glendell Gallery.

So you were a big buff Iranian dude. That's right. Banana split. How are you going from working in Hagenhers to owning 1% of the Yankees? Yeah, that's amazing. It's what you call the American Dream. Yeah. I was not a great baseball player.

Never played any organized sports. I said, listen, if I can't play it, Either I'm going to buy some of the best baseball cards or one day I'm going to be a team owner. And then, you know. Now, you sold a Wayne Griskey card for a million bucks? I sold two of them. It was a record at the time for $2.2.000. I bought it for $5.40.

18 months later, I sold it for $2.2.2 million. Why don't you sell it? Now, here's a crazy thing. One of the cards I sold alone. One card I sold for like $1.4 million. The other one I sold for $800,000. The one I sold for $1.4 million, this is where the story gets. It's crazy.

Six months later sold for $3.75 million. Oh, man. So I would have waited for us. It would have been. I was the market maker. So I sold it like, holy shit. Because I got a call from Bruce McNoll. I don't know if you know, Bruce McNullough.

He owned the old Honest Wagner card with Wayne Gritsky. And he used to be a king's owner. He says, hey, Pat, we know you own the card. We want to buy the card from you for seven figures. I'm like, why are these guys calling me to buy the car for seven figures? And then I realized Gretzky wanted his own card. He wanted his own card. And then when it went on auction and it sold for 2.2,

he was there, right? At 11.30 I'm like, babe, wake up. So what happened, babe? You know, those cars just sold for $2.2 million. What did you say? Because she was like, why would you buy these cards for $540,000? I said, we're going to make some money on this. Obviously, we for rexed the money within 18 months.

But yeah, I love baseball cards. That's like my one thing where I'm, you know, some people are crazy NFT or big. Bitcoin or all this stuff. Right. I am all about cards. I love baseball. Me and my brother were huge Atlanta Braves fans.

Back in the 80s and 90s. Yeah, when they was going to all the World Series, they made me quit watching baseball. Why is that? Because they never won except for once. Every year they would tear my heart out. Yeah. TNT, right?

Because it was TBS or TBS. It was on TBS. TBS News Network. Every game was broadcast on TBS. I would watch every game. I was a super Braves fan. But every year they go to World Series and it would get swept or they'd done. I said, you know what?

I got to give this up. They were ruined my whole month. I remember one year they won like 106 games. I remember that. First round playoffs, swept. Boom, done. Done. Yeah.

By the time they was going against the Yankees, they was up two to nothing. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Got swept out of it. Let's play a game. Here's a game.

Yeah. On the 90s squad, see if you can name 15 players, Braves. Can you name 15 Braves players? I think I can. Chipper Jones. Okay. Some black guy in right now. Chip.

What do you say? He was a good looking to do. He was David Justice. Yeah, David Justice. He was dating Hallibary, right? He was. Ron Grant, so that's true. Ron Grant.

Rick Mailer. Andrew Jones. Andrew Jones, center fielder. Madden. Madden? Madden or Maddicks? Maddox? Gabbin was one of the best.

Yes, he was. Tomlavin. John Smolls. Chuck Tanner. He was there when he sucked. He used to be the coach. It was Cox. Cox.

Yeah, yeah. Who else you got? That's nine. You got six more to go. Yeah. Come on. I can give you a couple. No, hold on.

I'm going to see if you guys can get this. Like one of the catchers. Sid Breen. Sid Breen. See it, Brin. Yeah. Sit Breen. Number of the big guy.

Dale Murphy. Dale Murphy. No, he had. That's 80s. Yeah, that was 80s. Yeah, he sucked them. Who's the guy that came from Colorado to first base? And he was killing it hitting home runs, left and right.

Give me an initial. Andres. Andres. Gala Raga. Oh, I forgot about him. Yeah. So that's 11. Center fielder.

He had like 70, 80 stolen bases. He was one of the fastest guy. Oh, yeah. He like a old. man. He looked like he was 100 years old. You're doing like Kenny Laughton? No, his name was Nixon. He had this one play. He was 25 years. I swear to God, he looked like it was 130.

His name was Nixon. Yeah, y'all remember. Can you bring up a picture him? Nixon, uh, Lana Brae's old man. What was it? What was his first name? I don't know. I can't remember. I'm actually curious now who this guy. I remember players by the last name. Um, who was the catcher? Um, not Bruce Benedict. I think they sucked back when he was a catcher.

It was, uh, Ortiz. his name was Ortiz. They had a third baseman, Terry Pendleton. I remember him. They had Joe Rocker. Yeah, the racist guy. The racist guy. I remember when all that shit came out, he said on the subway, he was in Yankee Stadium.

I think it was the Mets. It was the Mets or Yankees? He said all this stuff. He trashed like gays and like minorities. And I remember that night he was in New York and he called him in to close the game. So he would always sprint onto the field with this crazy man. dog white supremacist. I loved it.

Right? And everybody's throwing bottles on the field, throwing stuff out of him. He didn't give a shit. He didn't give a shit. Came out there struck all those motherfuckers. And then he went off again. That's what I call white privilege right there. That's white supremacy right there.

You have a let's see. Oh my God. Otis Nixon. Yes, you're right. Otis. That dude was probably 25 right there. And he looks like he's 100. I remember the Braves got him.

He was fast. He didn't bat for a higher average, but it's always still in bases. You remember how he used to get on base? He used to burn his way on base. He was still two bases. See, you guys legit, you watch it. By the way, there was also Kevin Millwood, who was a pitcher. There was a couple of guys. Fred McGriff was there as a first baseman for a couple years. Fred McGriff, if you remember him? Right squat. Left-hand batter. Nice swing. He would always hit like 25, 35 home runs.

It's a fun team to watch. It just would never win it. They are the Buffalo Bills of baseball. They did one in one year. One time, yeah. It was against the Cleveland Indians, I think. Is that the Joey Bell era? Like Carlos Baier, all those guys? I think it was the Indians.

Albert Bell. That's the only team they could be. And they damn, I lost that one. Yeah. How the hell do we get to baseball? I don't know. You own. That damn Wayne Griskey card.

And the Yankees. Oh, I said I like baseball cards. That's right. That's right. Wow, that must feel you own one percent of the New York Yankees. And did you get any pushback? Because you're, um, I'm, I'm not sure what, if you're a moderate, Republican, conservative,

I'm not sure what your political leanings, but it comes off to me like you lean right. Oh, absolutely. I'm a capitalist, you know, center right, some libertarian views, some conservative views, family-wise, hardcore conservative where I'm at. But let me tell you what happened with the Yankees deal. So I'm going through the background check.

MLB's doing a background check? Okay, a background check. Because they won't, they can let anybody in. once you're in, then if you want to be a majority, they already know who you are. But you have to be approved to go in, especially if it's an organization like Yankees. That's the one that never comes up. So if that comes up, you have a shot at getting it, you want to get it, right? You think that's right?

They bet people who can own companies? I think you have to bet them. I do think you have to bet an organization like that because, you know, there's nothing, just like when you hire somebody, if you do a little bit of a background check and certain things you can do, I think you ought to do it. This is a higher level, right? So, but then it comes, I finally call my lawyer. I'm like, listen, man, this is how it's going to take.

And they don't want me to be an owner because I'm too loud. I don't want to mess with this. Pat, just be patient. Two weeks I get a call, they say the Yankees' executive team wants to meet you. So I fly out to New York. We go to a game. We go to Steinbuner's chairman suite, which is insane. His suite.

Insane sweet. And then it gives a tour to dig us in the field. We go all the way back and some boom. You know, they want to meet you. Great. Tony, the CFO comes. picks me up. And then we go in a room. Lon is sitting to my right. He's the C-O-O.

Then Randy Levine is sitting right in front of me. He's their president. Tony sits here and then a Steinbrenner shows up. How? And we're having a conversation and I said, look, I just want to ask you guys something here. I said, you know, you can't call me and tell me to be quiet with my opinions. I'm not going to do that. And I'm just going to get louder and bigger. I'm just getting warmed up right now. What concerns do you have with that part? And I say, what do you think we are here? How do you think we made our money? Brandy's like, I've campaigned for Trump.

You know how many stuff I've done? I've done, I get in trouble for. We're not worried about that. He says, we have one rule here. I said, what's that? Hal looks at him. He says, I'm the boss. You don't tell me what to do.

I'm the boss. Sounds like he's in the mafia, too. Yeah, which I'm good with that. I like those guidelines. And I said, I respect that. No problem. If you need anything from me, let me know. But, you know, I can respect.

I don't own majority. I'm not the biggest shareholder. You guys are, this is your organization. I respect it. And then it's okay. just think about it. We'll get back to you. Two weeks later, close. I'm in Bermuda. I get a call from the lawyer. Got some good news for you. What's that? It's official. You're officially minority. I'm like, oh my God, it was crazy because we were watching the Yogi Berra. The only

documentary my 10-year-old watched that he cried. It's the only documentary. And by the way, my kids, they're required to watch. So he's seen every episode of Last Dance, every episode of Man in the Arena, every episode of Captain Jeter, every episode of, you know, the Ronaldo, anything, the Kobe Bryant, the dream team, every one of these documentaries he's required to watch. The family is required to watch. The only documentary that made him cry is the Yogi Berra documentary. If you've never seen it, it's phenomenal. It's a phenomenal documentary.

He's watching it. I go upstairs. I tell him that. It was just, it was a magical moment for the family. It was phenomenal. Wow. For me, it's the Will Smith movie, Pursuit Happenness. Yeah.

I probably like 10 times in that movie. Pursuit Happens. You ever met him? You ever met the guy? Chris Gardner. No. Yeah, Chris Gardner. So in 2008, when the movie came out,

at the company I was a part of World Financial Transamerica, they brought him to speak, and I brought him up. And there's a picture of him and I have in 2008. Chris Gardner. Great, great story. He's the guy that you'll typically see him at the airport in flip flaps and $10,000 suit.

Really? And by the way, looks money. He makes it look good. Now, if I wore a suit on flip flaps, bro, I can't make that. I got Jesus feet. to be problem matter. No, no, no. He can pull it off. And he's just like smooth. He bought Michael Jordan's Black Ferrari. I don't know if you know this. He bought Michael Jordan's black

Ferrari in Chicago because he's a Chicago guy. And yeah, great story. And he's in a movie at the end. You know, when he's walking and Chris comes by him and it's a very, it's a great movie. Yeah, we need more documentaries, like, especially for black people. Because they think everybody's out to get him. Yeah. I mean, speaking of black people, you interviewed Kobe Bryant before he died. Yes. Yes. What was that like? You know what is four-year anniversaries?

Today's what? Today's Thursday or Wednesday? Today's Thursday. Tomorrow's his four-year anniversary and when he died. You know what? When I found out about that news, we had a comedy show. We was about to go on stage. And I'm on Instagram, scrolling through Instagram, you know,

trying to calm down for the show. I got all kinds of butterflies. Then I see that he died and then I see his helicopter. I was like, it was hard for me to go on the stage. I was posting videos of the helicopter going down. I was like, is this some kind of sick joke? Yeah. Totally like blew my mind.

It was like putting me in such a horrible mood. But yeah, right before I went on stage, I don't know. No, it was a, I remember we were at seasons 52. And Jen's like, babe, check your phone. CNN, look at the report. I'm like, no, babe, there's another one of those things that, you know, when the driver from a, what's the fastener of a furious, oh, Walker died.

No, it's a fake story. I'm like, oh, maybe they're pulling the stunt like that. Then ESPN, then Fox. Then CBS. And you're like, oh, my God, this is, and then my phone. up. Did you hear the news? Did you hear the news? Dylan starts getting emotional. He's like, my friend, Dad, because him and Dylan, when Kobe came to the event, we're in the back, there's this great picture and video of him and I sitting around this big round boardroom table.

I'm talking about like, go six more of these, right, in this room. And we're in the corner. I'm sitting here. He's over here signing the balls in a memorabilia that we're going to give away. And he starts talking to me. He says, so you get nervous before because the interview was in front of a 6,200 people. We had him and George Bush at the same event. It was written about criticized everywhere, but he was good with it. And he says, so you get nervous before you do these? I said, no, I'm good.

I said, do you? He says, Pat, I played us, of course. I said, yeah, we're good. And he starts talking to my wife, and he starts talking to Dylan. And he spoke to Dylan for like 15 minutes. Like, why did he just talk to the kids? Then his white lady came up, probably in her early, she looked really good, but probably late 60s, early 70s.

And they hugged each other as if it was his grandma. And they talked for 15, 20 minutes. You just felt the, not the Mamba mentality, the different hat on. I'm just Kobe. I'm not Mamba. You just saw how gentle he was. You saw a complete different side. Fun, gentle, easy going, loose.

And it was going to be exciting to see what the second phase of his life was going to be like. But the world stopped the day Kobe died. The entire world. There's never been an athlete who died and got killed. where the world stopped like him. Roberto Clemente, with the plane crash, I mean, obviously, I wasn't around, but when you read about what it was like, the world stopped.

But with Kobe, China, Europe, you know, South America, us, everywhere, everyone was blown away. Yeah. Did you hear about the aftermath? There were some pictures of their bodies being trying to, they were trying to dissipate their, well, it was the firemen that showed up. Yeah, and they took pictures or something like that.

Yeah, I think his wife actually took them to court. Oh, she did. Absolutely. And she won the lawsuit. I was like, why would you do that? She did. Yeah. She did.

I mean, look, there's a lot of things tied to that story with Kobe. Stories about, hey, he was just about to sue something with a pharmaceutical company. He wasn't to have. There's so many, the pilot was Armenian, by the way, and they're going through the fog. Why did you take off? Why did you land that? There's so many different stories. Yeah, it was really dangerous to take that flight that day.

So they actually just blew right into the side of a mountain, right? And that's how they lost it. Yeah. Yeah. But, like, he, like, as, okay, I'm black. He's black. He's never been the type of black guy that's like, I never saw that, like, victimized himself or victimized the black community.

Like, I was the biggest LeBron James fan. You were or you were? I were. I'm not anymore. Like, when they defeated the wars, when he came back, there was down three to one. He came back. There's a picture still on my Instagram, and I was so happy. Right.

Mm-hmm. And then the things he, because before all that went down, there was, I remember seeing a press conference of LeBron. He was saying some really good things, like all lives matter. And it made perfect sense. And then he did an about face. And it's like everything that's coming out of his mouth now is there's some type of agenda. And the majority of it, I would say it's false. Like there's an actual interview of him sitting down holding a book of Michael Max.

And he misrepresented everything that Michael X stood for. You know, nothing. it comes out of his mouth is genuine or sincere. Yeah, like Kobe, he was genuine. He was sincere. He wasn't victimizing himself or anybody. He was just a competitor. Yeah.

He knew life was about a meritocracy. Nothing's given to you. And that's what I liked about him. And he knew, like, several languages like you. He spoke French. Exactly. Talia. Very smart.

Very. But, you know, like, you look at the league today. Last night, Stephen A. Smith, we're having a conversation. We're at Maestro's, and Stephen A's my kind of a guy. I just like talking to him. Politically, he's independent. So you can talk to him. He likes...

I don't believe that. By the way, you want to know on this podcast who his first two guests were on his podcast? His first guest was Sean Hannity. His second guest was Chris Coma. You know who his favorite person is

that he learns from? You ready for this? Hannity? Mark Levine. Really? Well, Mark Levine. He's a die hard... He is a die-hard Mark Levine fan.

Would you ever guessed it? No way in hell. Nobody would have guessed it, right? So I think, you know, Stephen A is a staunch capitalist, but obviously he's a Democrat. He's not, you know, he's an independent, but he's going to vote more left than he's going to vote for Trump. You know what he said two days ago? So I don't want to run for office with Howard Stern, but he said, but I want to debate President Trump because I think I would do this. This is, I'm like, hey, Trump will kill him.

By the way, I said, Stephen A, he says, man, I didn't think this was going to be that big. I thought I was just kind of joking with Howard Stern. He said, I don't want to debate Trump. I just said it. I'm like, I'm just saying it. Be careful what you asked for. Yeah, but you know what I asked him yesterday? I said, so let me ask you a question.

Do you love today's NBA product versus the NBA product of the past? Do you love how Adam Silver manages the players and the league today or the way David Stern did it? Right. And this was the conversation about how David Stern managed the league and the players where he put them in their place versus the way they manage it today. It's purely standards. LeBron today, you know, the way he, the way he, lives his life is meritocracy.

Right. He's a billionaire. But not only that, he earned. Yeah. But like LeBron, I don't know if anything was handed to LeBron. LeBron, are you kidding me? This guy's played 20 years in the NBA. You know, he's got 38, 39,000 points. I don't know what number he's that. He's about to cross 40. He'll be the first to play with him

and his son in the same league for that to be taking place. Good father. The rules they have with his wife. You know, his wife doesn't take pictures with any man. Okay. She just doesn't. So fans come up. There is none of that people. They have these weird things that they follow. Go ahead.

You were trying to say something. Yeah. I find that most black Americans are, they raise their families. They are Republicans. But for some odd reason, when it's time to vote, they always vote Democrat. It's like you're raising your family the right way, a conservative. I would say, at the very least, you're a moderate or a Republican. But I don't understand why they run to the ballot box and the vote.

for a Democrat. Well, because I don't know if you know the science behind it. Do you know the science behind it or no? There's a scientific answer for that. According to this legendary motivational speaker, he said, if you don't vote for him, you ain't black. This name is Joseph Biden. I don't know if you've heard of scientific.

Yeah, here's a great philosophy. Heavy, heavy. It's like the modern day Aristotle, Plato, one of those guys. Right. Yeah, have you guys heard about this guy or no? He's a legend, right? How did she say that with a straight face? Can you imagine he says that to Charlemagne to God,

and then Charlemagne comes back and says... And it's no pushback. Yeah, but now he's saying, well, you know, Joe Biden's always been a terrible candidate and all this other stuff. But going back to LeBron, here's the point. The way LeBron lives his life, what if he expected others to live his life that way?

What if you expect it, take care of your body, be healthy, do, you know, if you had the similar disciplines, maybe you would also win, right? Instead, he's playing the victim guy. Kobe and Michael were from the same era. Kobe and Michael were like, you know, when there was something that happened with Black riots or somebody got killed, you know what Jordan would do?

He would give $5 million to this police foundation of Illinois, and it would give $5 million to NWACP. And everybody would be like, I can't criticize him, shit, okay. But he wouldn't do just NACP or justice. He says, listen, give them five, give them five, leave me alone. Let me live my life. I support you, 5-5. I love cops, and fine, I'm going to.

black, I'll give money to you as well. You know what, back in the day, the NWCP, they had a meaning and purpose. I thought. Nowadays, I don't mean, it's to keep racism going. Yeah. I mean, it's not a huge issue. But I want to change gears. Sure.

Black Rock. The world economic form. Yeah. We're pretty ignorant to all this stuff. You're the guru. Yeah. When it comes to finances. Yeah.

I mean, just crows. Yeah. I mean, what do you think about Black Rock? Especially like, okay, Bitcoin. It's the ETF came out. Yeah. That's really big. They say in Black Rock is the evil companies trying to oppress the world. You own nothing, but you'll be happy.

Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, when you look at these guys, like, for example, Disney, we're having this conversation about Disney. With, you know, Bob Iger, you know, is it his fault? Is it Sheapex's fault? You know, he just got a raise to $36 million. They just raised a salary. Yeah.

And they doubled the salary. And, by the way, you know, when they double the salary? Joe Diamond, right? Bob Iger. Oh, okay. Diamond, he got a 4% raise. Yeah, he's 36 million. He's 36 million.

I think Bob Iger, they doubled his salary. We can find out what his salary was, if you guys want to pull it up with Bob Iger's salary raised that he just got. But they doubled his salary, right? They doubled his salary after Disney fired 7,000 employees. Think about that. They doubled his salary after Disney did 5,000 employees, and they had five back to back to back to back to back flaps of movies.

Right. Okay. Woke movies. Terrible woke movies, right? Under his watch. By the way, so Disney, 10 years ago, they're worth $160 billion. Ten years later, they're $170 billion company. They're pretty much worth the same as they were 10 years ago.

They're not growing. With all this inflation, too, yeah. Disney grew during COVID because when COVID hit was the best thing that happened for Disney, because Disney came up with Disney Plus, everybody's on watching. When you think about it, imagine you fire 7,000 people. dude, you guys crushed it. Here's a double your salary type of raise. And five bad movies back to back, but let's give you a raise anyways. Do you call that white privilege? Yeah, you called that. It sure sounds like that. But by the way, you asked the question about Black Rock.

Do you know the number one institutional money owner, shareholder of Disney? It's a Vanguard. I think they own like 12%, give or take. And I think number two is Black Rock. They own 8%. You're again, you can correct me on this as public info. Third place is State Street, and they own 3.9%. Okay, so these guys own stocks in Disney. Now, there's two guys that own a lot of stock in Disney who are conservatives, and they've been fighting to get on the board, and they've been not getting the spot to get on the board.

One of them is the founder or the chairman of Triang Company. It's another one of these institutes. Tyrant, Trent, Trine, it's some name like that. they are number six of institutional money. I think they got around $3 billion into Disney. And then there's another guy that's there as well, that these two, the other guy's worth $4.5 billion. They're trying to go in and say,

listen, guys, this is not working out. We can't be doing this. We want to get a spot in the company, and we want to get in, right? They don't want to give them the board because the last thing they want is, you know, everybody kind of, you know, exposing what's going on with Disney.

But the story with Black Rock, Vanguard, State Street, is this institutional money control that they have when they put money into the company and they got board seats, guess what? You're not really answering to, you know, to the regular shareholder. These guys have more control than the shareholders do. So the Larry Fink types that are sitting there saying,

no, you can't do this. Or, you know, like with Bill Maher yesterday, when he said, I had to take one for the team when he took the vaccine. He didn't want to take the vaccine. Bill Maher didn't want to take the vaccine. Who's the team? So, okay, he works for HBO.

Well, if you go all the way up, somehow, some way, the person you're taking, for the team is the Black Rock, is the State Street, is the Vanguard, is these guys. And they've now have their hands in Hollywood. They have their hands in weapons of mass destruction. I'm talking about these big five companies that create weapons and sell weapons. And they have their money in real estate.

They have their money in so many different places. But ESG, DEI, CEI, corporate equity index, you know, diversity equity inclusive, you know, environmental, social governors, all the stuff that they're bragging about. It's all then. It is, but it's getting exposed and it's not working. It's becoming a bad idea. Mark Cuban, okay, who is becoming the face of DEI, defending it on Twitter. He keeps going back in forward with Elon Musk. You know what's the craziest thing about Mark Cuban?

So he says, there's nothing wrong with the DEI. You ought to plan on, you know, doing this with DEI. Do you know the Guardian did a story in 2022? Okay, if you can pull up Mark Cuban, Guardian, whiteest team in the NBA. He bought the team in 2002. From 2002 till 2022, according to the Guardian,

75% of the time during those 20 seasons, which is 15 out of 20 years, Dallas Mavericks have been the widest team in the NBA. It's not a coincidence. So then you know what he does when he realizes this? He immediately, yes, if I were to ask you, give me a profile of who you think he hired

as the president of Dallas Mavericks. What does this person look like? I would say white. Is it what? White guy? No, to make up for it afterwards. A black guy. A black what?

A black woman? So can you pull out? Was it a black woman? Can we just, these guys are brilliant. Can you, can you look at this? Dallas Mavericks are consistently the whitest in a black league why and it gives the data, right? And what data is that? Because he always corrects me and messages me and says, that's an old story.

Can you zoom in on the date all the way at the top? Go zoom in all the way at the top. You'll see it right there to the top. do you see it, it's like 20, 22, right? Now, if you see when he owned the team, he bought the team in 2002. So it's exactly 20 years for 15 out of 20 years. He's been the widest team in a black league.

Now, go type in Dallas Mavericks president. Just type in Dallas Mavericks president. Dallas, yeah. Mavericks president. Let's see who comes up. Boom, who is she? That's the president. Like Maxine Waters.

That's the president. Boston Celtics, Casey Jones. She's the Boston Celtics, KC. Jones. So this is where, you know, when somebody says, yeah, we ought to do this with D.I. Bro, you don't even live that in your own life. Right. Yeah. Why are you imposing?

So these arguments, they're losing so much with data. And it's, it's making them look bad. Is there anything wrong with him winning what a white team? No, he won a championship with a white team. Guess what? He's the first guy that brought a championship in how many years? Right. He beat my team.

He beat Miami. He beat LeBron James. But did you see Nuitsky told Duane Wade, you guys were wrong for making fun of my cough and all that stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said that to Ron's week. He came back and beat him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that series, they were celebrating too early.

Yeah. They just got dusted from there. They should have killed him, by the way. They should have killed them. That's what I thought, but they couldn't keep that little white boy out of the lane. That was 48 points, and he was like 24 for 24 and free throws. He was amazing. That one game was.

Yeah. He broke the heart. He was the modern-day Larry Bird. I always went through this shit with Larry Bird. He's got that fade away. You can't block it. It's indefensible. Yeah.

The difference was, Dirk was nice. Larry Bird was a dog. He was a fight. He wanted to fight you. Like, if you just type in some time, Larry Bird NBA fights. Yeah.

And just watch him. He fought everybody. Right. He didn't care who you were. He wanted to fight you. Yeah. You know the story of Larry Bird? I think he's raised with two other brothers.

father, one day they come home with him and his brother, and one of the brothers missing, and the father says, where are you? Where's the other brother? It's not, we don't know where he's at. The younger brother then shows up, black guy, bloody face. The dad says, you guys can't go to sleep until you find that

who did this to them, and you beat him up. The kids are like, what are you talking about? He says, you're not coming home until you find who did this to your brother. They go to the kid that did it to their brother. They beat the kid up. They come back all with face, fight, all that stuff. he says, now you guys can go to sleep. Later on, the story ends tragic.

Father owes a lot of debt. I think he was a gambler. So one day he calls Larry and he says, son, because he couldn't pay the debt in the city they lived in. The father tells his family his son he loves him and then tells Larry moving forward all the responsibilities on you, grabs the shotgun, boom, kills himself. Wow.

Larry steps away from the game. He doesn't want to play basketball ever again. And he's completely debilessing. devastated naturally when this happens. A coach calls him and says, hey, you can't do this. Just come and play. He said, I could ask. I'll never play basketball again.

Anyways, Larry Bird eventually comes back. This coach brings him back in and he plays the game. And he played it with a rage because of the pain he went through as a boy, the way his father raised him and what he went through. And nobody knew that. You just knew when you played against this guy, he did not fear you. A white guy from where he was at and he came at your thumb. throat and talk shit to everybody.

Larry Bird is one of a kind. That guy was... Yeah. I think all great men come from having great dads, masculine dads. Yeah. And I think like... When you don't grow up a dad, you tend to emulate your mother. Yeah.

And it's like, it's so important to have a masculine dad. Like me and you, I mean, you was behaving like angry black women. No, we did. It was some pussy. Because I lost my dad early in my life. My dad actually, I lost a... I lost my dad on my actual 14th birthday. So every birthday, it was a reminder that that's when my dad died.

How was it? And I take it a stepfather. My mom dies 20 years later after my dad, but she dies the day before my birthday. Fucking parents hated this. Leave that shit. Are you kidding, man? I'm not kidding. True, man.

And how did dad die? My dad. He called a disease that his work was work-related. Didn't get a dollar. Didn't get a dollar. But at the point when he died, it was like it was like a blessing. I'm glad he was suffering for days. You're like glad.

You're like glad that he's not suffering anymore, but then you miss him. You know, it was, like, back to like, like, I'm sure you had a masculine dad. I can, I can tell you, just look at it. Yeah, right? But today's, like, the men in this country, it's like they're being emasculated. They're being feminized. I don't think we can win any war. If push-cum-the-shub, say we got in a war with China or Russia,

it's like the people we're going to be sending over there, it's not the same men and women that, you know, back in World War II. I mean, the whole country, as far as when you look at a man in our society and how everything, nuclear family is just not there anymore. Like, everything is totally changed. Just a bunch of weak men. How do you think we change that? Yeah.

If it can be changed. It's one thing. To me, my opinion, it's one thing. It's hero-making machine. So what does hero-making machine mean? Whatever you recognize, your kids will pursue. Whatever you recognize, people will pursue. Whatever you highlight and recognize and put on the pedestal,

I want to grow up to be like this guy, right? If you, Forbes magazine that was known as the capitalist tool, you know, where the son of the original founder takes that company He becomes a billionaire, you know, puts one of the craziest parties together on a 70th birthday party. Every, I think 700 people showed up to a 70th birthday party. He gave everybody a Rolex for their birthday. For his birthday. Thank you for coming to my birthday.

Here's a Rolex. What? He was best friends with Elizabeth Taylor. He owned the most those eggs, the Russian eggs. There's a name for it. I don't know what the names are those famous Russian eggs. So $300 million. He owned more Russian eggs than the Russian government had those eggs.

And eventually he sold it. This guy would probably go around, talk about capitalist tool, capitalist tool. Here's my helicopter on the back of it. Capitalist tool. I use the helicopter to grow my businesses. His private jet all the way in the back would say capitalist tool. If you type in Capitalist Tool, Malcolm Forbes, yeah, Fabrijeet eggs. He owned the most Fabrijeet eggs.

If you type in Fabrijeet eggs, Forbes, you'll see he owned the most. Faberge egg. But in everything, his yacht on the back, capitalist tool, I'm using this tool to grow my business. Now, we can't recognize capitalists as heroes. Elon Musk is evil. Every one of these capitalists are evil, right? So he's an evil guy. Why is he evil?

He's just evil, right? Look how rich he is. He must have hurt a lot of people to be rich. You can't be worth $300 billion and not help other people become rich. It's the only way you're going to be rich. Yeah, that's how capitalist works. Yeah, go ahead and work like the guy does seven days a week, sleeping at the office, does what it does. So in America, the other day we're doing a podcast.

I said, how many states recognize the top 25 students every year on a website, and the governor gets up and recognizes the number one, seventh grader, eighth grader, ninth, 10th, 11, 12, recognize the grades and what they're doing. And we announced them on a press conference, hey, great to be here with everybody. I want to recognize the top 25 students on what they did. And today we're going to recognize the number one student for seventh grade, eight, grade, nine. Let me start off with this. Seventh grade.

It's from such and such county. It's from the great high school of this. We're so proud of her. Here's what I'm hearing from her. I was told her parents are this. She did this and she did that and she got straight A's and did this and makes $500 a month with the side business. Let's give her some love. Second one, Papa, blah, blah, recognize.

We're no longer making hero making hero making. We're making hero making machine. If somebody changes their sex, that's the hero. What are we doing? So, and then fathers, like, you know, recognizing strong fathers. You know, a strong father is somebody that understands that, oh, my God, you know, well, this person identifies as this. And, you know, I knew when my son told me, he sees himself as a girl.

Oh, what a great father. What the, what are we doing? Like, that's the part that to me, it produces this rage in me. All we have to do, by the way, I think we would change things within three years if we just change the hero-making machine model of, America. What if we recognize a 17-year-old kid who started a business made $120,000 in high school and was able to take care of his mom that he did this, and he's also got a 4.5 GPA? Do we know that kid? I don't know that kid. Do you know that kid? I've never heard of this in our states. How about we

recognize great fathers whose mother passed away, the wife's mother, the kid's mother passed away, his wife. He still takes care of the kids, three of them, and locally everybody comes together and says, let's recognize this guy. He works two or three jobs and does Uber at night. And at the same time, his kids all have straight A's. How come we don't know these guys? Why are we not turning these guys into heroes? So to me, the moment we change in the insurance company, I'll never forget.

I used to, we just came here for one of the events. We did for one of our insurance guys, George Palio. He had a very good event together. Vivek just spoke at his event. And he had a bunch of other guys at this event. But when I was changing the comp, compensation of a sales organization, whatever way I incentivized produce good behavior or bad behavior.

So I used to recognize on the leader's bulletin based on who submitted the most insurance policy. Submitted doesn't mean the policy got approved. It's just submitted. So hey, great job to Larry. He submitted $120,000 of insurance. This is my great job. Oh, my God.

I'm so happy. Only $20,000 of it would get approved. So my method of recognizing It was my fault. I was recognizing bad behavior the moment we flipped Kevin the moment we flipped and we started doing based on Approved insurance policies when I tell you 60 days Everything changed everything changed within 60 days. So I want to recognize John Doe He placed 93,000 dollars of business this month Phenomenal job John Doe now the other guy that got recognized for one turn is a holy shit. They're no longer talking about me anymore. Yeah, because your business

sense is fake. So if Americans, governors, presidents, had a model of hero-making machine, parents would try harder, kids would try harder, job creators would try harder, everybody would

try harder because we're recognizing a great father, a great mother, a great seventh grader, a great-ninth grader, a great-nine-nin-grade. We have a hero-making machine problem in America. Two, three years, like this, we would fix it. It'd be that quick. Your mindset is based on equality. this country is based on equity.

They don't care. They just want to see a certain amount of black people in this position. I want to see a gay person in this position. I want to see a transgender disposition. It's not a meritocracy. That's why this country's failing. Everybody, everything is passing for. You know, it's funny you should say that.

Me and Keith used to be vacuum cleaning. Vacuum cleaner. I was our first job by high school. So vacuum clears do-door. Guys, if you did that. Kirby vacuum clean. I remember that. A bunch of guys would do that.

Yeah. And then Kirby vacuels. Then we went into the military, got out of the military, then we came, it was when we used insurance sales for ugly, what was that insurance? Affleck. Affleck. How long?

How long were you guys? Dude, two days I was done. Two days, this is the job. They gave me, we show up, right? I said, yeah, I'm going to make me some money, huh? They gave me this phone book, right? Back in that day. Yeah, what even cell phone?

Right. So I'm right by, I wrote, you know, a landline, and I said, what do I do? He said, you just call and you start talking. Here's the script, right? So I'm like, hey, do you want to have insurance and people is hanging up on me? Yeah. Oh, you're selling that stupid-ass duck insurance with the duck because they had the dog.

Oh, man, I had this one white guy. He said, you're black, aren't you? I can hear it in your voice. Where are you guys when you do? We're in California. We're in California. Southern California, it was Orange County. Okay.

It's not like you're an A. Like, you know, everybody lives in Orange County. Yeah, I wouldn't make it. But nobody likes telemarkers. And black telemark is that? I'm sure they pushes white people on the edge. Insurance is probably the hardest product to sell. And more importantly, insurance is probably the number one product

that people don't want to talk to you about. Like, you know, certain products sell. Certain products have to be sold. For example, a Ford Ranger truck or a Ford F-150 or Raptor is sold. You don't have to sell. It's so. You come in and say, hey, Ken, I want to buy this, right? Y'all want to 250? We got you at 250. That's 250. 6.7 liters, power stroke.

37 weeks times, 20-inch rims. That truck is hung like a horse. 37 minutes. Go to fishahawks 2.org.com. Anything you buy from a site that you automatically enter the wind. No purchase necessary. Hoardware prohibited CFS rules for detail. Yeah. You know, beats. You know, you listen to, which is. It's you people coming and don't want to. But insurance, if insurance salespeople stop selling tomorrow,

no American would buy insurance. Right. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I told it. Someone has to come and ask the question and say the following. Keith, can I talk to your wife? I'm concerned about you and your kids. What happens if, God forbid, Keith is driving recklessly.

He's selling me. And he passes him. She gets emotion and you're like, you're really asking that question in front of my wife? That's what the judge is. job is. And then you're like, how much you care about your family? Don't ask me a stupid question like that.

And then your wife looks at you. Yeah, a hubbuck so you love us, baby. Yeah, your wife would control on your heartbeat. So I had to quit because I was taking it home, being cursed out all day. Yeah. I couldn't handle it. Yeah. It's hard, guys. It's very hard. Listen, I'm not going to tell you, it's easy. It's very, very hard. Yeah. But you had a company.

Yeah, you sold the company. Ph.P? Ph.P. You sold that company, right? I did. Yes. For how much? shy of 300 million. And I own 83% of it, yeah. Yeah. Look at him. Look at. Oh, yeah. By the way, I... He's actually a blessing right now.

No, listen, I will tell you. I've made millions, and then I made tens, but I had never made hundreds. And it's a very different experience. You guys have made money. I mean, you guys, I'm not going to say the number of what you told me last time on how much merch you guys sell. For you to be able to give away all the trucks they give, you make a lot of money. You're not going to give away to this. You guys are making very good money for yourself. I do all right. I think it's more than you do all right. I'm just getting by. I'm hanging in there.

Life's tough. But that's the thing about when you're working. You're like you're building something. You're building it. Oh my gosh. Like is this thing? And then all of a sudden one day it hits. You're like, this is real, right?

This is exciting. Yeah, we grew the insurance company from 66 agents to 40,000 agents. in 49 states, a few hundred offices, and then today we've licensed 50,000. We grew the profit last year from 22 to 23, shy of 70% growth in profit after we sold of what happened last year, which was an exciting thing to see where the partners are grown as well. But, yeah, I mean, look, guys...

If you'd have hired us, we'd have ruined your whole country. You would have done the merge. You would have killed it because we suck at selling merch. Guy sends me a message today on Menex. I don't know if you guys are familiar with Menect or not the app. So this guy sends me a message on Menect. And he says, hey, Patrick, you know, is there any way I can be successful as an insurance agent working 9 to 5 because I have a kid and my wife makes three times as much money as I make?

Can I be a successful insurance agent selling life insurance working 9 to 5? I said, who the hell is home from 9 to 5? The decision makers are home after 6. So if you're going to sell insurance, exactly. That's what we learned is, you got to get past the gatekeeper. You know, I said, pass it. These damn gatekeeper, man, can't get past. Yeah, it's hard.

Yeah. So insurance is you sell from six to midnight. That's when you sell. That's when we sold a lot of vacuum cleaners. Yeah. When anybody got home from work. Yeah. And then imagine doing that for, you know, a couple decades that you're selling and building an insurance company.

And then somebody comes and saying, hey, we kind of want to buy your insurance company. Great. And then that happens. It was a great feeling when it happened. Was it tough selling it? No, it wasn't. It wasn't. He gave the speech, where you should wipe it?

Let me talk to him. But let me tell you why it wasn't tough selling it. Here's what was tough selling it. So one day we're sitting with our board, I'll never forget this way. If the people who are at this meeting, you know who you are, we're having our board, pre-board meeting dinner at Oceanair Dallas.

And Ocean Air is a good restaurant. They have good food, have very good food. So we're there talking and one of these guys said, I said, listen, I want to go talk to the big investment bankers in New York, and I want to see what the company's valuation is. And this guy says, no one's going to talk to your EBIT is only a couple million a year. Who the hell is going to talk to you? I said, what kind of a guy are you being here on a board? You're one of our board members, and you don't even believe in a company.

So we got into during dinner. And he said, I'm not saying that, but no one is going to sit with you. I said, listen, your job as a board member is to help give counsel to me and make some introductions. You're a strategic partner. put me in front of six brokers, investment bankers that specialize in insurance. I want to talk to them. Let's go to New York. One of the guys, Greg says, Pat, give me a week, let me get it done.

He books me with six investment bankers in New York. And this is 2018. So we go to New York. 2018, 2018, we go to New York. 2018, we go to New York. So two of the investment bankers sold smaller insurance company, like $10 million to $50 million. And they were very interested in us. The second insurance investment bankers

sold between 50 to 200 million dollar companies And the third one sold 200 and a couple of them They did one the bigger deals Two and a half billion, three billion That's what they sold. Now obviously I'm interested in the third The third is not interested in me The first is very interested in me

I'm not interested in the face Because you know what I'm saying here So I said there and I'm like guys He says, I said so what is the valuation on a company like mine right now? I said well you know five times EBIT That's what it looks like Because you're an FMO

So if you get five times it's good I'm like five times. I would never sell five times. Who's selling for 15, 20 times? Oh, you're not going to get 15, 20 times. Why not? You're not. I said, but tell me who is.

He says, the only way you get 15 plus X is if you are a tech-enabled company that you have your own technology and software. I said, I have all the software that I use. They said, but it's not yours. You're renting from somebody. You're paying an annual $50,000 fee or whatever. I said, I am, but I'm using them. He says, that's the point.

It doesn't mean anything to somebody that buys. we came back after a full day in New York. First thing I did, we had a meeting, we had a bunch of guys in Dallas that came and pitched us to develop a software that we wanted. Eventually, one of the companies came. We spent $200,000 for eight weeks. They were sitting at our conference from every single day

with 500 sticky pads every day, step by step by step. We paid them a couple hundred thousand dollars to just show us the first run on what it would take to build the software. Eight weeks later, they give that to us. We paid $200,000 for this thing. Then we came back.

We went and shopped it with us. other companies, one of the guys that we had done business with, we brought them on, they built a software called Bamboo. It took us probably $5 million. Today we probably spent $10 million on the software, but at the time it was $5 million that we spent onto the software. And the next thing, you know, we went from being a five times EBITDA company to 15 times EBIT a company. So then when I met with people that wanted to buy us, they're talking to a tech enabled insurance company. So the valuation 3x. And that's when they realized if we buy these guys

we can sell the software and we can use it everywhere it was a beautiful thing so but that's when I realized this is not hard to we had at the peak of it all the offers combined we had 17 offers to buy the company like offer offer sent 17 offers to buy the company

it was a great experience that we went through over that two year period we learned a lot but then eventually one guy came in and says look we want to make an offer and we want this business we had a five hour dinner at Casa DiAngelo I was I was dealing with another offer. We were talking to Bain and others. And then eventually we're like, yeah, this makes sense.

We came back. We accepted the offer. We went through a five-month process. We closed. While I was a one-week vacation in Monaco, we closed in Monaco. Get inside a little boy? They couldn't because I said this is the number. And they said, let us sit on it. They came back. They said, let's go with it. Great. And then we went through. They kept their word and classy people, great people. And he's right now build a company that's a massive company. Did they wire the money to your account or did it give you a check?

No, they wired. Oh. No, I said, give me a check. I'm going to walk in the bank. No, they'll flip out if you go to the bank. Yeah. You don't know. They wire the amount.

And when it hits, your guy calls you and they're like, hey, we just got to check for this much. Okay, this is real. And then we go to the breakfast. My wife and I, for three and a half hours, we're like, you know, this is official. She's crying. We're having this great conversation.

It was a great conversation we had, but life changing type of stuff. You know what got you to that position? I think, what's that saying? Strong men are built in week times. Like, what's your experience growing up coming to America? That's what ultimately made you. Yeah. Well, it had a big part in it.

You embraced your failures. Yeah. It made you a better person. Yeah, and we came from absolutely nothing, right? And I think that's what set us up because just being born in America, it's just so much opportunity. but we both, all of us had the right mindset. I think there's a culture growing within America

that the Democrats are pushing, this whole victimization, and people don't understand you are literally worth what you put into life. Nothing's, nothing's given like Elon Musk, nobody gave him that. He built that from nothing.

Like when I mentioned that we lost our father when we was 14, but I remember all the things, he worked seven days. week probably worked six hours a day yeah and that was instilled to me like all my friends in high school none of them had a father but I didn't recognize it at the time yeah all them went to prison all them still in prison the majority of yeah if they get out they go right back maybe a couple months later only a few of them really made it out but you still keep in contact with them

I don't talk to them niggas I didn't hang with them fools when I was in high school me and keef were like always each other who were you guys in high school by the way were you guys the cool guys because I don't know you told me last We were shy loners. Yeah, you told me that last time. All we needed, we were each other. Is there pictures of you in high school or no? Is the pictures public or no?

No. We have a public picture of me and Keith when I was on the basketball team, but it was junior high. I mean, me and Keith was. You guys are good-looking guys. I mean, you were good-looking guys in high school. I was a school a virgin. No, you did. Yeah.

I was just sit home busting nuts on myself. What's wrong with you, man? All I did it was the picture of the girl. I didn't need her. You know what? Me and Keith... Oh, man, you're hot. Hey, shut up.

Hey, me and Chief was teased a lot. I thought I was ugly. They called me gay. They called us Millie Vanilly because of their eyes. And Millie Vanilla was hot back here. I can see that. I can see that happened. I was very quiet. Didn't kiss a girl until I got out of high school.

Yeah. But I wish I had a time machine. What I know now? Oh, my God. All those women in trouble. Yeah. I had to ban a couple of my teachers. You say the most inappropriate things, man.

Hey, I want to ask. What do you, 2024 predictions on the election? Who do you think is winning? Okay. So the question is, what is the likelihood of Biden being a candidate? Okay. So that right there changes everything because you know how in sports? Everything is about matchups and they'll say this team matches up well.

These guys don't match up well. Like let you say one team is a dominant. center and you don't have a center to defend me and I'm going to score 40 points. Let's just say Shaq and they didn't have a strong center to defend me. You're screwed. It's all about matchups. So it's all about matchups, right? So if Kobe is going against the guy that, you know, they have a defender to kind of keep them a little less than you have a good matchup, right? So the matchup, Trump against Biden, Trump's favorite. That matchup, Trump is favorite going against Biden. Democrats know it. We've never had a president to win with a,

lower than 39, 37%. It's just never happened. No one's ever won being at that number. And Biden's there to date. Democrats are worried whether this guy's going to win or not. And even Obama the other day is talking about the fact that he's worried on what's going to happen here. So there's a lot of talks of Michelle. Right now, if you go to, can you go to Vegas 2024 presidential odds?

This has changed dramatically in the last two, three months. People making bets on it. They're making bets on it. But this is a very interesting number to be thinking about because this thing never lies. If you go 2024 presidential Vegas odds, it'll show you number one right now, one to one. One to one, I think it's Trump. So if you bet a 10 grand, you're going to win $10,000 if he wins, right? Can you go click on it actually to see, yeah, if you can go to it.

Is this the one? I think there's another one. Can you zoom in a little bit so we can see what the odds are? So 108 to 108. Let me see if I have another one here Because first place Okay, perfect If you look at this one here

Is this Vegas odds? I think there's another one, guys. Let me try to do this. This is very Vegas presidential 2024. While you looking at it up, I find it so,

his Trump's comeback story is so miraculous because has anybody been voted out of office and then later come back and beat the president who voted them out? Has that ever happened? I don't know if that's happened,

but we've had it. guys that leave and come back and won. That's happened before. So here we go. So Vegas odds. Number one is Trump. Number two is Biden. But look who's number three today. 11 to 1.

11 to 1 is Michelle Obama. By the way, she was 40 to 1. And she wasn't even in the list. Now you have her third 11 to 1? What? And then fourth is Nikki Haley. And look who's fifth. Newsom. You don't bet against Vegas.

So you got Newsom and you got RFK and Kamala Harris 40 to 1. But Michelle just boom came up. Hillary Clinton was on this list. She fell off like a few months ago. So meaning Hillary's out. Now you can never count her out, but Democrats don't want Hillary to run

because they don't think she's formidable. But if Michelle goes in and Kamala and Michelle and Newsom go in, you're talking about that is an insane That's a dream team for the Democrats. Okay. And the Republicans can act as hard as they want.

And we've gone, you're going against Michelle, which means Obama's going to campaign. You're going against Newsome, which means everybody on that side is going to get Hollywood, Fallon, Camel. You're going to get everybody. Women love gabing. That's right. They do. So then Democrats have to sit there and be like, well, you know, how do we now present this to everybody? So my speculation on this is the way they would sell it is Joe Biden's wife would come out and say,

you know how amazing of a grandfather he is? Last night, Joe and I, we've been doing a lot of thinking and reflecting lately. Joe feels he's at the last, you know, last, you know, phase of his life, and he wants to spend more time with his grandkids, and I totally support him. We've been talking. It's been a very hard decision. Joe, I would say, no shit, lady. Yeah. But watch.

But you know what America's going to say? America's going to say, what a freaking noble guy. Yeah. What a noble guy for him to do this, right? So that's the position. Democrats are good at playing chess. That's right. So now the tough one's going to be Kamala.

You can't replace Kamala with a white guy. So Newsom can be president. And Michelle is a VP. If Michelle's a VP, Kamala sits down. They're okay because it's black, black, the way they do it. Exactly. Newsom comes in young and he's been a flag carry saying all these good things about Biden. So they're going to be like, well, he was always supported.

But who knew that Biden? Biden was going to step down and spend time with his grandkids. Now Newsom is in. So if Newsom's won, Michelle is two, vice versa. They go against Trump. Who's Trump going to take as a VP? So some are saying Nikki Haley, because Nikki Haley has got the Wall Street money, but MAGA doesn't like Nikki Haley at all.

Republicans are not fans of Nikki Haley who are Trump Republicans. They're not a fan of it. I told Vivek yesterday, if he doesn't pick him, I'd be very disappointed in him. But you have to ask if he picks Vivek, what's Vivek going to be doing? Is Vivek's stronger? working as an AG, is Vivek's stronger having a different job because Vivek's not a vice president. Here's what I mean he's not a vice. He's a worker. He wants to get stuff done. Vovic's not a guy that wants to just have a title saying, yeah, you know, I want to look at the place. It's great. We have

it under control. That's not his personality. Vice president. So but if you give Vivek a real heavy duty job, he'll get the shit done, like some real, real job, which I think he would like that to do that part. So you have to think about matchups. So do they go Tulsi? Do they go Stefanik, do they go, I mean, the lineup is a big lineup of who you can choose from. But for me, I wouldn't choose VP too early yet because I want to know what their move is going to be. I'm going to hold off a little bit to have better matchups. You don't want to throw off matchups. And you can't play like, oh, Tim Scott would be a great VP.

Tim Scott is not a, he was the most boring guy I ever said. Every time they would go to him on the debates, everybody in the audience was yawning and falling asleep. I'm sure he's a sweet man comes across as a nice guy. I'm sure he's a very smart guy with what he's done, but you're... It's almost like you've got to be talent.

If that's the matchup, it's the ultimate talent. Who the hell is going to go against Michelle and Newsom? So Newsom and Trump, that's okay. That works. I think Trump has a slight edge over Newsom. But whoever the next one is against Michelle,

they have to be very intentional, and very strategic with this. that's my opinion. Blacks would flock to the pose to vote to have Michelle Obama. I fully agree with you. And then if Michelle's the VP, guess what happened? Michelle can go hide and stay with her husband and have a family because she doesn't want to be in a White House anymore. They have a great life.

Phenomenal right. Maybe the best life any presidents had after they've been a president. Think about it because... Don't tell black people that. When Kennedy was the youngest president or won the youngest president at the time, he died. He got killed. Obama, after he's done being a president, they've had an incredible eight-year life doing whatever they're doing

Hollywood, celebrity party with everybody. Who do you think Trump can choose, though? If the Democrats make that move? Yeah, I don't know. I'm a data guy. So I'm a guy that wants to create a data score based on 10, 20 different markers and run it down. I want a data where I want followership, influence,

political expertise, you know, women. I want to do all... How about you? I'm not born here. Really? I mean, I know you, but Obama wasn't born here. There you were. That's classic.

Hey, I'm still waiting for that birth certificate. So I got to go to Hawaii maybe. Maybe I've got to go to Hawaii and say Tulsi, can you give me a birth certificate? But wait a minute. Democrats in some cities like Chicago, they're hiring policemen as their non-resident. They're not citizens. Well, I can be a policeman. I can't go be a cop and be a firefighter, but there's a difference with the VP side.

This is going to be an interesting election. So you never got your citizenship? Oh, I am a citizen now. Okay. Yeah, I'm a citizen. You got to be a certain amount of time. Natural. You've got to be a natural born.

citizen to be a beef your president. I don't understand it because his country is built by immigrants. I agree. And, you know, what's his name? Jank Yucre, who that had on the podcast couple times. Politically, we are like this. It doesn't make any sense, but we actually have a relationship. And we enjoy

talking to each other. It's so weird. And we'll sit and we're like, yeah, no, but here, let's agree on this. It's a very good conversation every time we do it. But Jank is like, Pat, I'm telling you I'm officially on the ballot. That means you can one day run for office. I'm I'm good man. Let me go build this media

business that we're building. But yeah. So do you think Trump's back in office? I lean I lean towards being super paranoid and prepared. If I'm on the inside of Trump's camp

and let's just say I'm an advisor, we're hiring five business analysts, all data. And I'm bringing them in. These are like $300,000 of your guys that are billion math guys. And I'm saying, listen, do it for your country, right? Data analysts. Say, say, say, a closet conservative that worked at Google, a closet conservative that worked at Nvidia or worked at all these MIT guys. Come on in. Let's run the charts.

I'm going to do all data. I'm going to say 20 markers, 15 markers, 10 markers, eliminate this. What happens with this? Who matches are better with this? I'm doing all data matchups is what I'm doing. Then based on, I'm going to be like, look, these are the guys we're looking at. Here's the top five. And then every day that ranking is going to change, kind of like what Vegas is changing. And then if the left can make their move first, I don't think they're going to do it because I think the left is going to wait till the DNC in August to announce

that Biden's stepping down. That kind of hurts Trump because Trump can't wait until August to pick his VP. Yeah, they can't be letting... Because I'm looking at... It's no way in hell they're going to let him run for president. Do you all see that latest... He was holding a speech and some shit

that came on that smallpox? Like, why ain't anybody talking about this? On the left, do y'all got that video? Well, Biden, I forget what he said. He's talking about women. Yeah. Yeah, that's like that is amazing. I remember they was giving Trump so much flack

because he was walking down from his flight. He was grabbing a guardrail. Because it's wet. They said, look, he's unfit to be in office. But you have Biden falling up the steps, falling down to steps, falling on stage, and nobody says anything. He put a sentence together.

Yeah. No, he's, guys, and he's done in my eyes. Yeah. He's done. They've got to look at somebody else. if they, and the question becomes, do you think Democrat is the party that they're willing to say, guys, we're lost this one.

Let's just go to 2020. There's no way they're going to get to. No way. They're never conceit. They're formidable opponents. You have to know their real opponents, willing to do anything to win, because to me, Democrats are about their political party before America.

Republicans are about America before the political party. Exactly. Which is a mess up thing to say, but I just think that's why I'm so frustrated with Republicans, because you have to hand it to Democrats. just of superior politicians. I think January 6 happened because Democrats wanted to happen.

A lot of Elon Musk commented on that and they're like, look, this guy, you know, when the guys that are coming, their faces are covered, you don't know who they, show your face, no, there's a lot of things like that that we can put weight behind it and say this is what happened here. Fine, let's do that. But now

you have to make the right play next and focus on the target and you have to be obsessed and maniacal and put everything, every possible option that the enemy is going to play against you, you have to create a solution on how you're going to react to that. Everything has to be considered.

That's how dark it is right now. I was hoping for some hope, but... No, the future looks bright for sure, but... There's the video we're talking about. Is that Joe? You won't get distracted, and I'm betting, come November, we will vote on a record numbers. And when we do that,

all women. We'll teach Donald Trump a valuable lesson. Don't mess with the men of America. That is just embarrassing. That is crazy. That is embarrassing. They ever undermine the liberal female voter.

They are a detriment to our society. Common sense will prevail, though. Common sense will prevail eventually. The right people are getting noisy. The right people are unifying together. the people that you never thought would, the musks and the rogue, the weirdest people are sitting around and saying, no, we're not going to do Biden.

Rogan can't stand. Like the Rogan the other day talked about Newsom, the fact that he used government tax money to buy himself a house indirectly. Like, when you say a message like that, Joe, you're not trying to be friends with that guy. You flat out or publicizing his, you know, dirt on him, right? And then if the musks and the Rogans and these, libertarians, if they realize the only choice is Trump and them,

they're not going to waste the vote and put it to a libertarian party. It'll be the first time. This would be the first time ever a lot of weird people are going to vote for the right. I hope so. First time ever. Yeah. I know you guys are diehard Biden fans. I don't want to upset you guys, but I have a feeling.

Yeah, me and Biden go way back. Hey, man, this has been a great show. A, Patrick, we want to thank you for being our second guest for the show. Yeah. And, man, this has been an awesome conversation. Appreciate your time. You've made me a better man today. Yeah.

It actually has. I'm going to go out and try to sell me some life insurance. There you go. We're recruiting by the way. I'm going to sell me two pilots and then I'm going to give it up. Thanks, Patrick. Anytime, guys. Thank you.