Hodgetwins Podcast - UNDERCOVER At The Southern Border! | Twins Pod - Episode 34 - James O'Keefe

Episode Date: October 11, 2024

James O'Keefe is making undercover journalism GREAT AGAIN! After being the face of Project Veritas for years, he was forcefully outed by them. He bounced right back with his new organization O'Keefe Media Group or "OMG" where he is doing his most important work yet. He was just undercover at the southern border and he's exposing all the criminal activity going on there in his new movie "Line In The Sand." Watch it now at lineinthesandmovie.com Get your Twins merch and have a chance to win The Iconic General Lee! - https://officialhodgetwins.com/ Get Optimal Human, your all in one daily nutritional supplement - https://optimalhuman.com/ American-made, top of the line knives - https://dmoknives.com/ Want to be a guest on the Twins Pod? Contact us at [e-mail] Download Free Twins Pod Content - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_iNb2RYwHUisypEjkrbZ3nFoBK8k60CO Follow Twins Pod Everywhere - X - https://twitter.com/TheTwinsPod Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thetwinspod/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/twinspod TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@twinspod YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdg Rumble - https://rumble.com/c/TwinsPod Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/79BWPxHPWnijyl4lf8vWVu?si=03960b3a8b6b4f74 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/twins-pod/id1731232810 02:04 - JAMES IS A FAN OF THE TWINS 03:29 - What Happened With Project Veritas? 08:31 - James' Movie "Line In The Sand" 13:59 - Crazy Stuff At The Border... 17:35 - The Government Is Funding The Border Crisis 21:20 - Democrats Blaming The Border On Trump?! 25:29 - This Is Not A Political Issue, It’s A Human Issue 29:01 - How Much Is Too Much? 30:11 - The Cartel Tried To Kill James! 33:28 - Why Are "NGOs" Funded By The Government? 38:32 - What Is The Endgame? 41:58 - Was The News Always Fake? 47:12 - Weirdest Thing James Ever Did On An Undercover Sting 53:01 - All Kindz of Gainz

Yeah, we got an investigative journalist here. James O'Keefe, how are you doing, brother? Great to be with you. It's very surreal to see you after the workout videos they used to watch. Oh, yeah, he's a fan, huh? Yeah. You're making investigative journalism great again. That's a dying art form.

It's tough for many, many reasons. The economics of it are hard to get jailed. Dangerous. You get prosecuted. You get defamed. It's not easy, and there's not a lot of reward in it. Yeah, for telling the proof, huh? That's right.

That's exactly right. What's the wordest thing you ever had to do on the undercover steam? The weirdest. Yeah, anything like gay or anything? No. No, no touching. I don't do that. Like when I think of Project Veritas, it was James O'Kee's show.

What happened with that? You can draw your own conclusions, but it was perhaps the most bizarre thing that anyone's ever seen. It's very unusual for a company to commit suicide and destroy its own brand. The face. The face, the CEO, the brand, the chief fundraiser. That's like replacing us with a white. kid. And his name is Jason.

Now, God works in mysterious ways because I created a new organization, OMG, O'Keefe Media Group. And I've made this movie. It's all about the border crisis. And it's a very unusual look at the border crisis in that I actually went to Mexico and we filmed the entire journey the illegal immigrants take. Where can people see the film? Line In The Sandmovie.com.

Tucker Carlson's partnering with me. So it's going to be on his platform. That's a great partner. Yes. Y'all got a lot in common Yeah Any moment in the film Did you feel like your life was at risk

Or? The cartel guy was like Come talk to me over here alone And I'm like, I'm not going over there alone She's like, Americans don't come here You're going to get ransom They're going to ransom for $100,000 I was scared to death

I'm like, are they going to kill me? Are they going to ransom me? You'll have to watch the movies See what happens. Yeah, welcome in episode 34 We got an investigative journalist here James O'Keefe. How you doing, brother? Good guys.

Great to be with you. It's very surreal to see you after the workout videos they used to watch. Oh, yeah, you're a fan, huh? Yeah. You'll fuck out the way. Cratine is for losers, man. Remember that one? Hey, man, you want to build some muscle, man?

You come to the right place, man. This was like 2011 because my mentor, Andrew Breitbart passed away, and I'm like, I got to start eating right and getting healthy. Yeah, me too. We just, I'm on, this is what day 10? I lost like seven pounds. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I'm trying to get back to shape. Trying to bring back the gains.

What you do, just cut out the carbs? Oh, just calories, carbs. Yeah. That's what I cut back is the carbs. Yeah. And the sugar. Yeah. That's what hurts me the most.

Yeah, but you make it investigative journalism great again. That's like a dying art form. That's, nobody's doing that. Nobody. Yeah, it's tough for many, many reasons. The economics of it are hard to get jailed and dangerous. You get prosecuted. You get defamed.

It's not easy and there's not a lot of reward in it. Yeah, for telling the proof, huh? Yeah, that's right. That's exactly right. So it's journalism is, there are people doing it more, but it's just easier to just talk about what you think than to go out in the field and risk reputation like that. Right, right. Right. Yeah, like, your name has become synonymous. Like, when I think of Project Veritas, it was James O'Kee's show.

Yeah. What happened with that? Yeah, that's a very difficult thing. And what happened was we had broken this massive story about your advisor. I saw that story. And it was, you know, suddenly, and that was the biggest story we ever broke, you know, watched a hundred million, a few hundred million times. Suddenly, my chief financial officer came to me and he had an emergency about, various expenses I took.

It's always the CFOs. Took the helicopter to go to a meeting because they didn't want to drive nine hours. So suddenly there was an emergency. So nothing had changed in 10 years. Right. You know, I had to raise all the millions of dollars to pay lawyers and pay bills.

But suddenly there was an emergency, so they had an emergency board meeting, six hour long meeting. And they tried to get me to lose my temper. I did not lose my temper. And then they effectively terminated me. They said, you're indefinitely suspended without pay. Indefinitely suspended. Not allowed to even do anything. It's gone forever. Gone. This is February 10th. So I just

started a new organization and kept doing it. And then they sued me to try to shut me up and shut me down, injunction. That went to court actually two months ago. I defeated it in federal court. I testified. And now they're still suing me. So, you can draw your own conclusions, but it was perhaps the most bizarre, you know, thing that anyone's ever seen. It's very unusual for a company to, to commit suicide and destroy its own brand. Right. The face. The face, the CEO, the brand, the chief fundraiser. You put Trude Neck on the line doing all this undercover stuff. That's like replacing us with a white kid. And his name is Jason. As they were having this meeting, it was a six hour long, I guess you'd call it

struggle session, just trying to get me to lose my cool. The only thing that occurred to me, the number one thing is we had whatever $15 million or whatever it was in the bank, all of that money was raised to pay legal bills. And the only thing I was thinking was if they do this, if they, I was thinking this in my mind, if they go through with this, it's going to, obviously, they're not going to be able to raise a penny. And they're going to eventually run out of this money because they're going to spend it on payroll. And then I thought, how are we going to be able to afford to pay all the legal bills for all the journalists? Because, I mean, the legal bills are insane in my line of work.

I'm talking like $5 million a year. Oh, man, lawyers are voters. I hate lawyers, man. It's always the lawyers. And people say, oh, find a pro bono lawyer. It's like, find pro bono food. Find pro bono blueberry. The market determines the cost of the thing.

No one's going to work for free. There isn't no such thing as a free lunch. The thing I hate about lawyers is they see get dollar signs. Oh, I know this guy, he's got deep pockets. I'm going to milk him for everything. And they raise their rates and he dragged things out intentionally. I'm well aware. I mean, so this FBI raided me and we're talking millions of dollars to fight the Department of Justice.

And this is what they do to people in this country. They make it so painful to tell the truth, to do the right thing. And they make an example out of the people who lead. and they try to deter other people from following. But if your cause succeeds, then the timid may follow. Then the timid may join you, for then you're setting the example. So I went through this. It was just quite a, I would say it was almost like a spiritual experience.

And you're coming off very biblical right now. I mean, I'm telling you, it cuts so deep. And the thing that I learned, and of course, everything, you know, you think about pain is that I view pain as an education. I view pain as, okay, this is going to teach you. about the future. The thing I learned was the people that you surround yourself with is all that matters. You got to be unbreakable. You've got to have people around you that are so strong that no incentive given to them is going to make them betray their cause. Right. You've got to have a tight

circle. You've got to, I mean, more than, if you're going to do what I do, it was almost a gift of disciples. Right. Right. And even with Jesus, they had Judas. Right, right. So anyway, this happens. I'm sitting in the room and I'm like, the only thing I'm thinking, oh, what are we going to do? They've got nine months left cash flow, they're going to run out of funds. No one cared. They just said, fuck you, get, get, get, get, be gone. I was like, I couldn't even raise my hand and ask a question. Escorted out of the building, the facility that I created. And, um, you know, what happened to white privilege, huh? And then I, and then of course, they ran out of money, you know, 10 months later and fired everybody and then there was no money to pay lawyers. And then

suddenly people, you know, had their hands out and said, we got to pay. So it's just, you can draw your own conclusions about, but that's what happened. And now, I mean, things happen. God works in mysterious ways because I created a new organization called OMG, O'Keefe Media Group. And I've made this movie. It took me a year to make. It's all about the border crisis. And it's a very unusual look at the border crisis in that I actually went to Mexico. I rode the train with all the Venezuelans, illegal immigrants. My buddy Anthony actually did it before me. He got kidnapped by the cartel, but he inspired me to do it.

He went with me, and we filmed the entire journey the illegal immigrants take from Iropo, Mexico, and New York City. You know, you did something that no man on this earth has ever done. Yeah. It's very dangerous. You take a lot of cahoots. Gohanes. Gohanes. Yeah.

How do you, I mean, I'm sure, like, right now you have not had the opportunity to take a step back and realize the accomplishment of what this film stands for. Now, I don't rest on my laurels. I just, you know, the reason why is, like, when you're in my position, you get DMs. I'm sure you guys get this. But we get it like every two minutes. I got a story here. I got a story that everyone in this society is like, world's on fire right now. Right.

And everybody's got corruption. So every two minutes, we get another tip, another DM, another signal. You got to come to my school. You got to come here. You got to come there. So for me, it's like a lot of responsibility. You didn't have time to celebrate. No time to celebrate.

I should celebrate. Right. I should do that. We're having a red carpet premiere Tuesday. You guys are invited. You probably can't make it. But out in Los Angeles, we're going to have a Hollywood thing for the movie. But this movie is like the culmination of my life's work.

It took me a year. I am the director. I was in that room for five months putting it together. Now, wait a minute. Who's your CFO? He's not going to fire you. You got to watch out for the CFO. So I'm the CFO.

Oh, okay. I'm the CFO. You learn from your own fantastic. There's no board. There's no directors. I am the owner, the 100% owner of OMG. But the film is a documentary, but documentaries tend to be very, like, boring, and they preach to you.

and they're retrospective. This is like you're in it. You're immersed with the cartel. You see what these people see. I took all politics out of the film. I think this is a humanitarian issue with these children getting traffic. It's not a political thing.

Yeah, I think you framed it correctly. Yeah. And I think that's why you're so successful. You come off very, very genuine. Well, thank you. And I think we have a trailer. Yeah, let's go to the trailer. But I'd love to play that for you guys.

We've got an unaccompanied minor. Oh wow. This is heartbreaking right here. That's the nuts. Those criminals are being put with the kids? Yep. They're putting the criminals with the kids. Does sacrificing your value system and integrity to feed your family make you a bad person?

They're putting blinders on right now to stop us from seeing what's happening. There seemed to be an internal struggle between doing what people perceived as the morally right thing and pursuing their livelihood. livelihood. You can't move 500,000 children in three years if you're asking a lot of questions. Maybe it's all just human nature. Maybe the powers that be know that. That is hotel. Stop the car. Stop the car. Where are you going? They're very upset. They're right there. Get down. You're in the secret facility right now. It's just all about money. There's a cut right there. They got ladders right now. Get rid of me or all the mind. We're headed door. It's not about people.

How much money are you making off of that? this crisis. Abugian Gullin. Every single agent knows deep in his heart what's going on is wrong. I know you're just trying to do your job. We're taking children. We're then delivering them to people who they don't even know. You can go on cry.

What's happening inside that facility? You know what's happening? They all protect each other. The NGOs. They got a spotlight on us. The federal government. This is dangerous. I don't think.

we can trust anybody. America, we made it. We made it. Follow the journey of the immigrants. I can't do this, guys. The journey of the children. Oh, this is big time.

We're in a cartel tunnel now, Doug. We're in a cartel. And the journey into human nature. Some things can't be read in a book or a newspaper. They must instead be lived. There's nobody here to stop this.

There's nobody. Where can people see the film? It's Tucker Carlson's partnering with me, so it's going to be on his platform next week. That's a great partner. Yes. Y'all got a lot in common. Yeah, yeah. He was fired a month after I was, I think.

Right. Y'all kind of bonded on that one issue. Well, I feel like, well, I kind of got him beat in that I founded the organization I was fired from. Yeah. But we both got slapped to the face, and he bounced back in a major way. he's probably the most influential guy there is out there. So are you, brother. Well, I appreciate that.

Thank you. Thank you. That's amazing. It doesn't come off like, it comes off like a very... Like a movie. Yeah, a movie, not only a movie, but it's a reality show and it's real. It's real. It's all real.

You're going to watch this and you're going to like, how did he get that on tape? Right. There's this one scene in the film where we're, you know, I don't, I come into covering issues like a, like naive. Like, I always come into a story. Like, I don't want to have anybody. bias or prejudice. I don't know what's going on. Be a journalist. Just be a journalist. Like, just factual.

It's like I roll up to the California fence, an hour east of San Diego. And there's no Border Patrol guys anywhere. It's like, there's nothing. And they're just coming through. And then these cartel guys got these big saws. Like, I mean, these massive buzz saws. And they're sawing through the steel beam. The Border Wall? The Trump Wall.

Trump Wall. They're sawing through this wall, and I'm hearing it. And I'm smelling it. So we decided to put audio devices on the beams, you know, placed every few hundred yards to record these guys talking to each other. I'd love to hear what they're saying. We do that. So we work all week. This is in April. We're exhausted.

We're picking up the audio. No dice. We're not able to capture because we didn't put it in the right place. And just as we're about to give up, on Friday, I think it was April 17th. We roll up 7 p.m. to retrieve the device. and the cartel is face to face with me. Really? With the saw.

Wow. And this is in the film. And they get scared. They drop their tools. They run back into the bush. And then they say to me, you got to let us finish working. We got to finish this job. We got to get paid.

It's what they said. Now they said it in Spanish. I had to translate it. And while this is all happening, and then they're threatening us. to finish the work. There's a Border Patrol agent just a few hundred meters away

watching all of it. Just watching. Just watching. His hands is tired. So I go up. No, he's being paid to watch. That's the issues in the film. That's why we call it line in the sand.

So I run up to him. I'm like, what are you doing? He just shrugs his shoulders. And a lot of these Border Patrol agents telling me, oh, I need to feed my family. I have my pension. I make $130,000 a year. So you're just doing this for the money?

like, yeah, I'm just, I just need the money. You don't believe in what you're doing? No, I don't, we just process people. We're no longer law enforcement agency. So the question in the film, and this is a very, you know, deep question is at what point are you yourself doing evil things when you allow evil? Because you do have a choice to stand up, to resign, to, at the end of the film, you meet the brave whistleblowers who do stand up and you contrast what they do with all the cowards. And that's why the film... So the film is about the border,

but it's not really about the border. It's about human nature. The corruption. The corruption. And you made a good point about, are they paid off? And you start to realize everyone's paid off.

Everyone's making money off this whole thing. Everyone's got a price. Everyone has a price. Well, you'll meet a couple people in the film who don't, but almost everybody. Yeah, right. That's because they didn't hear

the right price yet. You know, and most people, so I like to say that, you know, I have no price, but most people's price is actually their children's life. Mm-hmm. So most people's, and rightfully so. Everybody has a price. Yeah. People will do anything to protect their children.

But the problem becomes, what if you have to do evil things to protect your children? Right. And it starts to get really complicated. Right. And then you have this, so you have this border crisis where everyone's making money, cartel making money, the government's funding it. But a minute. Okay.

the government's funding. Government's funding it. Health and human services, people don't realize, is a trillion-dollar agency. They fund these centers, these NGOs in Texas. Non-government.

Non-government organization that has a budget of Southwest Keys a billion-dollar company. The government funds it. They house all the underage kids. So if they take the flow of the children away, they stop the flow of money,

to the companies, the house of children. They lose their job. They lose their job. And they said that to me. And all the bus companies, you never heard of them, Demaris, IS4, GS4, just hundreds of companies. And these bus drivers said, well, we need the illegals to keep coming. I said, why? Because without them, we don't have a paycheck. It was actually surprising to me to hear such candor from all of these people. You know, you think that there's some big conspiracy. Listen, there might be. There probably is. But at the end of the day, at the end of the day, everyone's got a price. and it's my quest to find people who don't have a price because that's how we save this country

we find people who don't have a price and I think they do exist but they're one in a million yeah they're like you well I appreciate the compliment I mean I get sold you sold to the devil not just nobody I was fired the most painful thing I've ever been through was being fired from Project Verita

I've been raided by the feds I've been jailed I was on effective house arrest for three years in my 20s. That's a whole other story. I've been defamed. I've been sued 30 times. I've been to three jury verdicts in five years. But I think the betrayal for me is the hardest. You know, it's like you get shot at the front, at the top from the sides.

But then you get stabbed in the back. Right. People will stick a fork in you the moment they can. And these are conservatives that did that to you. Conservatives. I mean, many of them may not have been. But I don't think it's more like the politics. It's more just human greed.

You have to be so strong to be on the front line. And every, the most powerful people in the world will offer every incentive. I don't just mean money. I mean like when you're getting tarred and feathered and smeared and attacked, the people around you have to be strong enough to say that doesn't bother me. And whoever my wife is going to be, she's going to have to be willing to not just visit me in jail, but be in jail with me. Right, right, right. Okay, who's strong enough to do that?

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Yeah. So these are very, this is this movie is, I think it's going to change things. Yeah. I think people are going to start going, okay, we're not. not going to have a country unless we stand up. Right. And we stand for something greater than ourselves. Right. Right. I remember when Trump was in office. What was that guy from Texas? He's, I think it was a senator. He was a senator. He was running for governor in Texas. What's his name? Beto. Betto. He tweeted a photo of this two immigrants who died in Rio Grande, I think, or something. In Texas, and he tweeted a photo blaming those deaths on Trump. And a lot of people don't realize hundreds of people die every year, if not thousands, at the border just trying to come here.

And people don't know that, but he used it as a tool to paint Trump as a white supremacist, and like this is out of the ordinary. When this happens by the hundreds every year. I would imagine those deaths have increased because that border's open, and now everybody is willing to do anything to get here. Yeah. Yeah, it's, I was, again, credit to anthony muckraker.com, this brave young man who actually rode the train from, was it, Ecuador up to Brownsville,

he inspired me to do it. And I think that changed me because I think a lot of these people are trying to get a better life. If it were, if I were them, I would probably be doing it. But you don't, you shouldn't allow an open border. Right. Because that creates that, that, that, humanitarian problem. That creates the problem. You're fueling the crisis. And what Tara Rodas told me, she's a whistleblower in health and human services. She said, she said, I said, why are, why aren't they vetting the people they bring these children to? She says, because if you want to move that many children, half a million children in three years have been unaccompanied immigrant children.

She says, you can't be asking questions, you can't be doing any vetting at all for the government to move that fast. Right. Our government is funding child trafficking. That's exactly right. And people don't realize it. Our government is funding it. And if you shut down the border, you'll stop that because these children won't be put

into these abusive homes. Oh, my government is funding child trafficking. Yes. Yeah. And it's hard to take the money away. You take the money away. Then the bus drivers, the NGOs. Here's a crazy thing.

The churches are in on it too. People were telling me, oh, James, don't go after the churches. Don't go after the Christians. No, no. Oh, you have to. I'm going to follow the facts wherever they lead me. Right. You have to.

The Catholic charities in California is getting money from the Department of Homeland Security. So they're in on it. Why do they get money? And that money is not even taxed. Not taxed. tax deductible churches that, I mean, they don't even pay taxes on that money.

Just blows your mind. In the film, there's a recording we got from the Catholic Church where these guys are like, oh, we're not even Catholic anymore. They're not even Catholic anymore. They just want the money. They're in the money business. It's, man, listen, it's all about the money.

That's what it is. And it always has been. And people think, oh, you know, and this is what I've learned in 20 years of being what I do. People think, oh, people go to D.C., to Congress to solve problems in the society and do the right thing?

No, no, no. They pick winners and losers in Congress. People think, oh, the border, these NGOs trying to help these immigrants get a better life. No, no, no, no. The more immigrants they move, the more money in their pocket.

Right. And when you got an organization, like Southwest Keys, with, I don't know how many hundreds of employees they have, at this point it becomes about self-preservation to keep everyone have a job with their salary. And these people are making big money. Right.

The top executives at the child camps make half a million dollars a year at least. What? Yes. I got their tax returns. It's in the film. Okay. Say it again. How did you get the tax returns?

I'm good at my job. I published the tax returns in the movie. Let me say this again. Southwest Key, which is an NGO that houses unaccompanied children. has top five executives making over half a million dollars a year. And well above the federal salary cap, there's a $187,000, I believe, there's a cap for federal funding.

They're federally funded, and their executives are making half a million dollars a year. And they house unaccompanied immigrant children, and they send the children to sponsors. If you don't know what that means, they send kids to these places where they get abused and raped and trafficked. because they don't vet the people they send the children to.

So this is all happening because the border is open. And the Catholic Church is involved. The Catholic Church is involved. The Catholic Church is getting funding from the Department of Homeland Security. I did not know that. Did you know that? Nope. And you know what?

Members of Congress like AOC who was down at the border crying with those pictures, she know all this is going down. I don't. Well, maybe she does. Maybe she does. I mean, she's got other issues. I don't... Yeah, she's got some brain issues

she's got to deal with. She probably wants to put me in jail. She put me in the guillotine if she had the power, I'm sure. Yeah, right. But this is not a political thing and maybe... This shouldn't be.

It's just as a humanitarian crime. On some level, we make fun of her, but, man, I'd like AOC to watch this film and appeal to her better angels because I think you can't have a soul if you watch this and you're, you know, you just...

Anybody who has a soul, Like you guys watch some, you probably should bring some Kleenex. Because at the end of the film, I mean, every person I've shown the ending of this film to has actually cried. And I think that they've cried because, yes, it's hard to see the scenes of the drug children and little girls. Drug children. Drug children. Some of these things are hard to watch. I didn't put it all in the film because I don't, you know, it's hard to watch.

There's a couple moments, but I think the reason people are going to cry is because they, it's like a national, cathartic release to see brave people stand up and it makes you happy that those people exist. It makes you question yourself and why we're here. But if AOC is watching, I would say, appeal to your better angels and do something about these kids. Every member of Congress, every member of the Senate, I mean, everybody, whether they need to watch that.

I'm glad the way you brought the film is not a conservative film. It's a humanitarian thing. No, it's very much. I took all politics out. People try to make me to make a political film. I said, no, no, no. I want this to be like a cinema,

Verete, raw. It starts with the cartel threatening me, and then the Border Patrol watching, and then it goes on the journey. If anything, I think, it's more of a bleeding heart film because when I rode the train

with the Venezuelans, I thought many of them were nice people. They took me in. Anthony and Taylor, my colleagues, taught this to me. This is very touching. I mean, I'm in this encampment in Mexico with all these Venezuelans, and I gave them Pizza Hut, you know, I fed them.

But you like that. And I became part of their clan. And then one of the mothers, all they had was a bottle of water. And a bottle of water is like gold to these people. Because I gave them pizza hut, they gave me their bottle of water and then they had nothing. It was very touching. I think it actually changed me. It made me realize the humanity of this.

the human element and little babies these mothers are holding their babies on their chest and they're climbing aboard a moving freight train now we're pretty athletic guys it'd be hard for us to do that right you get your legs chopped off you get your two lace shoelaces in there yeah and these mothers have nothing and they got babies and they're strapped to their chest they're climbing aboard this train i mean it's just it's in the movie right it's uh um is there in that do you show any like death in the movie? No, I avoid some of that.

Right, right. I think it's hard to make the... There's hard enough to see what they're going to see. I think it's hard enough to see what they're going to see. There's a couple scenes of little girls all alone at the wall. So you'll come across just a girl 10 years old. In the movie. I saw in your trailer, that little girl.

Just standing there all alone, unaccompanied. How scared she must have been? We talked to her and where's your dad? Oh, he's in heaven. Where's your mom? Oh, she's back there. Where are your parents? and they're lured here

you know there's one girl that we came across they drug the kids they give them some type of plant in Mexico to sedate them obviously she's seen some gruesome horrible things and you know

it's like that movie Sound of Freedom except this movie this is this is reality I mean this is all real footage I didn't hire any actors this is real and no actors running around

Red of out of illegal is trying to jump on a train. Did any moment in the film did you feel like your life was at risk? I was scared in two moments when the cartel guy was like, come talk to me over here alone. And I'm like, I'm not going over there alone. And there was another moment in Mexico. Again, credit to anthony muckraker.com. He did this before I did.

But there was this moment where, so we get to Mexico. Mexico and I'm scared. This is like the locals told me, what are you doing here? Like there's a Mexican guy speaks English. She's like, Americans don't come here. You're going to get ransomed. They're going to ransom for $100,000. Yeah. I mean, you would stick out like a sore thumb. Well, I kind of like, I didn't have a disguise, but I wore a bandana and tried to grow a beard. I don't grow a great beard, but I kind of wore raggedy clothes. So maybe I'm Russian or something. But he said, you guys are going to get ransomed. And so on Friday night, we're trying to board this train. I'm with these two guys, my companions. And they had told me about these people with machetes, and they wore like Ninja Turtle costumes, like black, you know. And in the distance we see a figure, and Taylor's like, hide.

I'm like, what do you mean hide? So they all like got on the ground and lay on the back. And these people walk by, I'm like, this is nuts. Like I could get killed. There's no place to hide. on a train track, walking down the train tracks, looking for this train to come. And I thought to myself, fuck this. Let's go back to Guadalajara and get a flight. I'm going to use some B-roll of this. I'm going to take some B-roll on the camcorder and call it a day. Right. And the next day,

we waited, we waited, and out of nowhere, this train comes in. And the conductor, Farimax train, says, not this train, speaking in Spanish, not this train, but the one over there. And all of a sudden all the Venezuelans go running towards this other train and suddenly we're off to the races and before we know it I'm on the top of this of this train and it's and it's got a um the Mexicans call it bolichero which is little iron balls and you're laying on a bed of little iron balls you're covered in grime and grease and dirt and all and all of a sudden I'm going 30 miles an hour on the top of a freight train headed towards United States and it's just like filled with adrenaline and in the movie,

we do get detained by the Mexican army and Mexican National Arts. So answer your question, when I was detained, they covered, the army covers their faces with the cloth,

and one of the Mexicans said, in Spanish, this is not good, because usually when they cover their face, they beat the shit out of you. I was scared to death. I'm like, am I, are they going to kill me?

Are they going to ransom me? And you'll have to watch the movie to see what happens. You had to avoid some very dangerous wildlife too, right? Snakes? No, I didn't come across anything like that. They didn't die out there in the desert. No, no wildlife, just a lot of dust inhaled.

Oh, okay. Well, back to the NGOs. Well, I had no idea that our government was funding that. I thought it was all not, these organizations are non-governmental organizations. I thought was all this was located on federal government buildings. This was all by the federal government. I didn't know it was private businesses having this. Being paid.

NGOs, non-government organizations. We go with that in depth in the film. In San Diego, we follow the immigrants to this parking lot, and all of these NGOs are there. And we document everyone. We recorded them all. They didn't know they were being recorded. All the money, all the money they get from the government.

People don't even realize it. And the government's funding. all of it. And, and I guess you can't have it as an official government organization. That's like treason. Yeah, non-government organizations, but ironically, they're funded by the government. So they're actually a government organization. I mean, I don't get any funding from the government. Right. It's wild. It's like a legal loophole for the government, so they have to pay for the consequences of what they're doing to these people. And, and again, not to go in circles here, but it's just every person I spoke to said,

I'm just doing my job, man. Yeah. Oh, do you think what you're doing is right? They're like, I got to feed my family, man. And these people, they have, I'm sure they don't have a security clearance or a background check or... Federal Border Patrol? No. Don't talk about the NGOs.

The NGOs, no, no, no. Well, actually, they're... They can be a drug cartel for all we know. That's an interesting point. I mean, the NGOs in Texas, they'll say this is a federal compound. The question is, is that a federal facility? Or is it an NGO funded by the government, but itself is not federal? I don't know the answer to that.

I snuck into these places. My lawyer said, well, it's a risk. It's federal property, maybe, and it's illegal to sneak into federal property. But we took the risk because we felt the children, it's important issue. We spoke to all the people that work there. And one guy said to me, it's in the film. He goes, yeah, I'm not supposed to tell you this place even exists. exists.

What? You're getting funny? Section 7. Why all this secrecy? What are you doing such that you need to keep it secret? Right. It exposes our government. I mean, maybe it isn't surprising to be here.

And then the next thing he said was, yeah, it pays really well. I swear to God he said that. So you won't believe me. You watch the movie. He goes, I'm not supposed to tell you this place exists. It's a secret. Oh, it also is really high-paying job. You're going to think that I hired someone to play the role of that dude.

No, no, no, no. That's a real person. Sounds like a dumbass. It's a real person right there. Yeah. So, anyway, that's line in the sand. Lineonthe-Sandmovie.com. It's on Tucker Carlson Network, and hopefully it makes a huge difference.

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It just needs to expose cause Kamala supposed to be the borders are and it shows why they didn't do anything for the border. Yeah. They got their hand in it. And it's like it just exposes so much corruption from our own government. We're trafficking kids. We're funding it. It's like it's almost unbelievable.

It's beyond anything anybody can imagine. I mean, I think that people will be inspired at the end of this movie to step up. I just met with a few Border Patrol agents this last few days. And I got another guy to come forward. Aaron Vecke is his name. He's in Ajo, Arizona. Very brave men out there. And I believe there's going to be

dozens of them coming forward when this movie comes out. We just got to have their backs. We've got to figure out a way to support them. Why do you think they're doing this to our country? We'll stay in game here. That's a good question. What do you think? I think it's voters and I think it's tax dollars

because they have an agenda for us that we don't know about. Yeah, I mean, we're talking about all the money is going to these government or non-governmental organizations. They're giving these people tens of thousands of tax, of our tax dollars to live and to eat cars, housing. I mean, I don't think the American taxpayer really realize what, how the government's funding all of this. Yeah. Because they've never done anything like this for their own citizens. We have like veterans that need help.

We have homeless people. We don't even treat our own citizens this well. It's like we've been replaced. Well, power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. So when you have a billion-dollar entity, and you have lobbyists inside that entity, lobbying whoever the people are there and the government to keep giving the contracts, that's how the skids are greased there. Right. And the homeless guy doesn't have a lobbyist. The people don't have a voice.

So that's what happens when you have money and power. And when these NGOs, non-government organizations or nonprofits, what happens is you start with a mission. You start with a purpose. Let's help house these children. But when you get bigger, your purpose is just to exist and to keep funding the organization and to make sure everyone has their half a million dollar salaries. That is the reason why you exist. It eventually becomes a racket.

So it starts out as a cause. and it eventually becomes a rack Catholic church. Oh yeah, we're Catholic. We believe in God. We believe in Christ. We believe in the Christian mission. And eventually it's, we need the money from the government to keep lining our pockets.

Right. That's just what happens. Right. So, and I think that's, you know, is that human nature? I think so. Power doesn't always corrupt. It tends to. So you had to be real vigilant with the leadership of these entities.

I mean, look at me. I mean, look at that James O'Keefe, fired from the organization that I founded. Right. So, well, that's kind of mind-blowing because if it can happen to me, then nobody's safe. If it can happen to you, if it happens to Tucker, he was the face of Fox. The face! Yeah, when you think of Fox Project Birdtask, we think of you guys. I mean, Tucker was the highest rated show on Fox.

Yes. So, and maybe, too, it's also that the more effective you are, the more over-the-touching. target you are, the more of a liability it becomes. In other words, the moment of greatest success carries the greatest risk. The moment of greatest achievement carries the greatest risks for you. Because in this business and these investigative journalism stuff, the more effective you are, the worse it is for me. Right.

It's not like you give you a pat on the back. They give you a battering ram and guns and shoot at you and like jail you. Yeah. When you get it, when you do a good. good job, you go to jail. That's exactly right. Yeah. So the incentive becomes don't do a good job. Or maybe just do, just be

a little effective, not too much. You don't want to like really expose them because you're talking about child trafficking here. If I'm effective at my mission in stopping the child traffickers, then my life's in danger. Right. I mean it makes me think, has that ever been the goal when it comes to journalism

in this country? Has the goal ever been like what you're doing? I don't think it's ever been the goal. I think, you know, that's a really good question. I think that you have to go back to, like, before I was born, like 60 minutes maybe. I don't know if you remember, like, way long ago they used to do the hidden cameras. Right. And but I think, what was the name?

Jim Hanson? Mike Wallace. Yeah. 60 minutes. He's now dead. But they had like muckrakers in the 70s and 80s and early 90s. But the problem that I've seen is the economics of journalism. There is no money in journalism.

So the moment you leave your studio. and go out in the field and do the work, it's expensive, and then you get sued, and the lawyers cost $500 an hour. So let's say you do everything right. You still have to pay the lawyers $500 an hour, and then you win. So now it's cost you, I don't know,

a million dollars in legal fees, and your boss is going to go, then I'm not going to spend a million dollars in legal fees on one story. There's no amount of advertising revenue that you can generate off of one story. to make that million dollars worth it. Simple math.

So it was decided. I would say it probably ended in the 80s and 90s that people said, we're not going to do this stuff anymore. You've got to be insane. Now, there's been a little rebirth of it right now. Crowder is doing it. Project Veritas did it. You got a couple groups doing it.

But the challenge is going to be for anybody who does this is you have to deal with the liabilities and you have to have a philanthropic, you have to have a philanthropic heart in that you, all your profits have got to go back into paying attorneys and, you know, the cost of making the, you're not going to have, you're not going to become wealthy off of this. Right.

I don't think anybody will become wealthy off of this. Right. So you got to do it out of the goodness of your heart. You have to. You have to have a good heart, which is something that Elon Musk says when he hires people, but I underestimated the importance of, you could be talented and brave, but you have to. to have a good heart and support these guys

when they get prosecuted and fired from their companies. You gotta have their backs. That's the number one rule. And we'll see what happens. The film ends on a very uplifting call to action in that it asks the public, okay, now it's up to you.

You're going to be inspired. Okay, what are you guys going to do about it? You pass the burden on to them. Have to. Can't carry all the weight alone. Right. He's tired of carrying all this shit. I'm tired of going to jail by myself.

So you says it's so tough doing that. What the hell makes you want to do this? He's got a big heart. So I think that I'm more like artistically motivated. Like I love telling stories. And what gets me going is like making this film. I spent five months in a production room putting it all together. And I love seeing it come together.

I love being able to show people in a different way. Like even my security guard when he watched, he's like, wow. We have seven foreign languages, Turkish, Mandarin, Spanish, Mexican slang. And we got a 600-millimeter lens on the cartel's face. You know, we got a boom mic over here. The way that I'm able to tell the story, it gives me satisfaction. being able to piece all that together. That's what gets me off.

That's what gets me going. That's what I'm motivated by. Some people motivated more politics. Some people motivated by helping children. I'm motivated by telling a story no one's ever told before. That's what always motivated me since I started this when I was 19.

That's great. You and the art. Yes. I'm more like artistically, that's what drives me. Although sometimes it's a pain in the ass. Most people like that, though, or typically Democrats, liberal.

That's true. Yeah. Like, when you, like singers, like actors, artistic people, there are different breed of people and they, like, they lean. That's very true. Progressive nowadays, you know? I don't know why that is. You're going to end up texting some shit.

And you could be voting for Kamala if you don't watch. I don't know why that is. That's a, that's, why do you think that is? You on our side, right? Can you lose you? I'm on the truth side, but for some reason, the Democrats hate me. I don't know why. Again, hopefully we change that.

Hopefully we get everyone agrees. But why do you think that is? Why are the artistic people all Democrats? I don't know. I think it's the environment, the atmosphere, they have to lean that way, and they've been conditioned and think that way. I just think, I think artistic people, they're very talented people. And they, for the most part, they're emotional thinkers. that's what I would say

yeah yeah that's true but maybe that's changing we'll see yeah yeah one last question what's the wordest thing you ever had to do

on the undercover sting anything like the weirdest yeah anything like gay or anything no no I never had to no touching I don't do that

no time I mean the weirdest thing was probably the recent one it's not that weird I wish I had something weirder to tell you but the White House guy in February, the IT guy who was gay, man, I am not gay, but I had to take one

for the team. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I play all types of roles. I've played, you know, mobsters and terrorists. Anyway, so I'm sitting with this guy, and he's like a smart guy. He went to Harvard, and I'm thinking, oh, man, he's going to know it's me. Right, right.

I don't really know how to be gay. And little did I know. And first of all, in Washington, D.C., the ratio of gay dudes who are, you know, there's receivers and there's catchers and pitchers, you know what I'm going to pick up what I'm putting down? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. One who gives and other than takes. Correct. Right. So the ratio of people who receive versus people who give is quite high.

It's like 10 to 1. So in the undercover work that we do on these dating messages, the first question is, are you a top or a bottom? I did not know this. I knew nothing about, you know. So what are you top or bottom? So if you want to, you want to be a successful undercover investigative reporter, citizen swiper,

you got to be a top because they're all bottoms. And the first question they ask is and if you're a top, you're in business. Now, I'm not making a moral judgment against, you know, gay culture, anything like that. I got my uncle's gay. But it's interesting.

And this guy I met with so smart, they all talk about themselves. All they do is talk about themselves. And you just ask questions and you listen and oh yeah. And then he goes, wait a second. He goes, I'm sitting right across from him. I just got glasses on. And he doesn't recognize me.

And he's spilling all these secrets about Biden and Kamala. He works in the White House. He's got a top security clearance. He's thinking about that big, fat, white cock. I didn't say it. You guys are going to get me in trouble. I did not say that. So I'm sitting there and I'm just like listening to this.

And finally he comes out of his little monologue and he goes, wait a second. I know nothing about you. I'm like, oh boy, I'm going to get burned. I'm going to get compromised. Right. And I'm like, oh, stop. You're like James Bond. Keep going.

And he's like, oh, and he's just trying. And that's all I had to say. Right. And that's, I mean, people think that. I have to do, I don't have to do anything. I just have to feed the ego of the person. And it's, you know, so

people have these conceptions. Like, we don't touch anyone. We don't... Right. Go to bed with anybody. We don't ever do that. People just confess their sins. They confess. I noticed about bottom boys, like gay men, they are very, very, very messy.

They are almost a liability. How do you know that? Oh, I I had some messy friends. Yeah, it's like they're a lot of buildings. And they don't care whether it's an alpha or a gay. I don't think, I may be wrong on this, but I think they just, because my staff was like, wow, is O'Keefe able to meet with all you gay dudes?

He's an alpha guy, and it's almost like they want the alpha. They don't care. They want someone to come off like they're straight. I'm probably going to get comments, and I don't know. I'm just telling you what I've seen, all right? I'm just coming at this blind. I'm just telling you what I've witnessed. But that shows like that group of people, they're like so narcissistic.

Yeah, they're totally into themselves. But most people will talk about themselves. Yeah, at some point, but it's like you said, it's like constant. I mean, human nature, people, I view it like they're, I'm their therapist and they just want to confess all the things they've done wrong. They're not even talking to me. They're just talking. They're almost like they're not even, I'm not even there. So this is why we all.

all hate Kamala Harris. Nobody likes her in the White House. I'm like, why are you telling me this? Right. Yeah, they're messy. They talkers. They, they, they, well, I think that just generally, I mean, all people, even the, the females that do it, and the guys, they just, they're not even looking at the girl. Yeah. They're just, and that's when you don't have a clean conscience, and you're doing something wrong. You're going to, it's going to come out. I know you got to catch a flight. Where else can people find you? Um, O'Keefe Media Group. group.com. OMG.

We got videos coming out every week, every day. We got a video coming out later today. The Mexican Army dude we were at the fence the other day and he's like,

oh, there's no immigrants coming through here and then literally a few hours later that same dude is escorting across. It's like, no shit.

I swear to God. So you're probably sitting there like with this small like yeah, I mean, I'm nothing shit. I'm just, I'm focused on getting the shot. I'm like,

right, yeah. The hidden camera. I'm sure you're smiling at some point. To my watch. Could you say that again? Just the way you said it. Just the way you said it.

Like that scene. We got cameras and watches, key fobs, coffee cups. Wow. Glasses? Do you have glasses? You know, the glass is not the best cameras. My favorite camera is the coffee cup camera because you could just set it and forget it. So anyways, that, you know, the movie, I encourage everyone to watch this movie,

Line In The Sandmovie.com. And sorry, I'm short of time. I got to go on to the next adventure. We put a link to your movie in my description. We got to work out sometime. That'd be fun. Yeah. Go to the gym.

Yeah. Make some games. Make all kinds of games. Building muscles hard. What did you say in the videos? What was your say? Oh, I can't remember. It's hard to be.

Man, creatine is for losers, man. What's wrong with creatine? Do you still believe that? Man, I can't take that shit anymore. I'm going to get kidney stones. Kitty stones. Yeah. Oh, Bell, deadlifts are backsnacks.

Do you still believe that? I have a bad back. I have a bad back, dude. Oh, the bad back. Everything would be is anecdotal, man. Yeah, yeah. So I see somebody in the give, do a deadlifts. I'm like, man, you're going to snap your shit out.

Man, you'll snap your shit up, man. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck out the way. I also do impressions, by the way. That's the theatrical part of me. It is so surreal to be sitting here with you guys. I used to watch the workout videos.

Now we're talking about, like, the meaning of life and border and children. That's crazy, right? Life is funny in Las Vegas. I'm in Las Vegas. Yeah. Man. But I do work out. I do try to eat healthy, all the stress, and you got to do that every day.

Got to be tough. Yeah. Getting the calories is hard. Yeah. So you chase around freaking Mexican. Calories. Running around. Yeah.

Airport has no healthy food. Oh, nothing. Right. Traveling sucks, dude. Traveling is. late. Can't eat healthy. You can't work out. It just drains you. Breakfast is important. I try to eat scrambled eggs, avocado, oatmeal. There you go. If I do that, I'll have a good day. Wake up, do that.

But yeah, man, thanks for having me on. I got to go. Thank you, brother. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, guys.