Hodgetwins Podcast - War Hero or War Criminal? | Twins Pod - Episode 31 - Eddie Gallagher

Episode Date: September 20, 2024

Eddie Gallagher is a highly decorated Navy SEAL and American Patriot. After taking a picture with a dead ISIS soldier, Eddie's name was smeared in the media, and he was charged with war crimes. Eddie ...is a very down-to-earth and normal dude, he tells his unbelievable story of how the American justice system was weaponized against him. Get your Twins merch and have a chance to win The Iconic General Lee! - https://officialhodgetwins.com/ Get Optimal Human, your all in one daily nutritional supplement - https://optimalhuman.com/ Secure your financial future today - https://prepperbar.com/sp/landing-page-copy-3/ American-made, top of the line knives - https://dmoknives.com/ Want to be a guest on the Twins Pod? Contact us at bookings@twinspod.com Download Free Twins Pod Content - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_iNb2RYwHUisypEjkrbZ3nFoBK8k60CO Follow Twins Pod Everywhere - X - https://twitter.com/TheTwinsPod Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thetwinspod/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/twinspod TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@twinspod YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdg Rumble - https://rumble.com/c/TwinsPod Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/79BWPxHPWnijyl4lf8vWVu?si=03960b3a8b6b4f74 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/twins-pod/id1731232810 03:04 - Eddie's Nickname the “Blade” 05:00 - The Hodgetwins In School 08:33 - Different Cultures Growing Up 16:20 - Amry Medical Care 18:43 - SEAL Training 28:34 - Eddie's Platoon Drama 43:54 - What Was Eddie Charged With? 51:09 - Crazy War Story 59:36 - Weaponizing The Justice System 1:04:18 - Being "Presidential" 1:09:20 - Israel, Ukraine, and The MIC 1:15:11 - Is The Military Woke Now? 1:23:38 - Being Changed By War 1:27:12 - Gay Talk 1:29:51 - The Southern Border 1:33:34 - TDS Is Real 1:37:49 - Americans Are Not Protected 1:43:55 - How To Prevent School Shootings 1:46:29 - Apple Made A Documentary About Him

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yeah, we got a decorated veteran here, Navy SEAL, Eddie Gallagher. Yeah, I appreciate you guys having me out. Yeah, you got a nickname The Blade. How'd you get that? You cut somebody? Let's keep some things a secret on here. What is it like going through seal train? I loved it.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I mean, I fought for four years when I was in the Marine Corps to get there. I kept putting in orders trying to get there and kept getting denied. So by the time I got there, I was just, you know, I was thankful to be there. We had this dude. You tried to be in Navy Sill and he didn't work. He said they dropped him off in a helicopter in underwear with a ramble knife out in the middle of the jungle. He's full of shit. You'll meet a lot of characters that say they went and they'll make up some outrageous.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Like I heard they make you have a puppy and, you know, kill it at the end. He said he had to sleep in a tree or the lines would have got him. Yeah, none of that shit is true. What were you actually charged with? It was premeditated murder of who? Isis. He's supposed to kill him Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't make this shit up
Starting point is 00:01:02 So it was pre-meditated murder of ISIS I was facing life without parole They would not let me see my lawyers That was like a privilege So they would make rules up For stuff that I was doing If I was doing push-ups in my cell They'd be like, hey, no one's allowed to do push-ups
Starting point is 00:01:18 And they're selling anymore No working out Oh yeah The prisoners started calling it the Eddie rules They're like, oh, Eddie must have been doing You know, because that's how bad They were targeting me in there They wanted me to snap
Starting point is 00:01:27 I'm not, I wasn't able to, like, get medical treatment. One time I was like, hey, can I get some melatonin? They were like, no, you're not to have melatonin. The dude behind me was getting a sex change. He's getting all of the hormones. So he came up and they're like, oh, yeah, here you go. Like, I can't get melatonin. Oh, he was cool.
Starting point is 00:01:45 But this dude can get all the hormones to get a sex change all he wants. And that was going on. It's, dude, it's an agenda. That's crazy. Our own government treating a Navy SEAL like that. Well, it was our own government treating the President of the United States. I mean, and that's the thing. Seeing how this country is being run now and the things that we're seeing, I mean, right in front of us, we're like, yep, this doesn't surprise us one bit.
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Starting point is 00:02:53 Yeah. Welcome to episode 31. We've got a decorated veteran hero, Navy SEAL, Eddie Gallagher. How's it going, brother? Going good, man. Glad to be here. Yeah, I appreciate you guys having me out. Yeah, you got a nickname The Blade.
Starting point is 00:03:06 How'd you get that? You cut somebody? Let's keep some things a secret on here. I'll say it. That's from a bar fight a long time ago. I'll leave it at that. Oh, okay. Makes sense then.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. So what made you join the military? Well, I mean, my whole family, we got a big, huge military. legacy of my family. Most of the dude served. My dad was in the Army for 24 years. So I grew up a military brat. But I really had no intention to join in actually when I was growing up. I think from being around it, I was like, I want to do something different. Right, right. I think, you know, high school, I wasn't a good student. I was a trouble maker, you know. Dude, I don't
Starting point is 00:03:55 know how I graduated high school. Yeah. I had to go to school extra year. Same. Same. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he graduated for me. He left me with an asshole he is, right? And I'm up in school for whole year. Well, I had to go a half a year. And I felt so old. Being a perverer is what you're doing. Oh, yeah. All that jail thing around you. That's what I like about them high school girls. Right. Oh, yeah. I did the same thing. I had to go to night school. And then I had to go to this school. It was made for girls that got pregnant during high school so they can get their degree. And then they started sending all the rejects like me out there to like go get their degree. So all these girls,
Starting point is 00:04:36 Easy. They come with trophies. Yeah, yeah, right. So you didn't like school, huh? No, man, it wasn't for me, you know? I mean, if I applied myself, like, I wasn't, I wasn't dumb by any means, but I just did not care. I was like, I don't care about any of this. I wanted to have fun.
Starting point is 00:04:55 I partied, you know, partied, played some sports, but. Yeah, I can tell you, very intelligent, but the classes me and my brother said, we would be up in class and some dudes. couldn't breathe. I was like, what? But we grew up in Mortonsville, Virginia, and DeGiswarnsville,
Starting point is 00:05:13 we wanted to go to school so we could play basketball. Right? And we was up in class, and they switched us from the regular class because we was about to drop out. We couldn't focus.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I don't know what it was. I guess because we're black. Is that a thing? That's probably what it was, right? But so they wanted to stay in school to play basketball, so we were in these I guess the slow classes.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Yeah, the LD classes. I've been able to the teacher told and said, man, y'all are too smart. I'm going to put you in regular classes. I said, listen, here, white, man. If you put me ready to classes, I'm dropping out of school. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah. But there's parts of classes where the people had to read. It was like some shit we was doing in fifth grade, you know? Read about Christopher. Yeah, Kevin, now you read.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Now, Jason, you read. It was that kind of shit. But these guys wasn't stupid. They just didn't apply itself. But these people couldn't breathe. I would be up in class laugh. And I was like, dude, you're white. You can't fucking read.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Like, come on, man. Yeah. Yeah. And we had some, man, we had some characters in that class. Oh, yeah. Same. I was, you know, I think it was like we had the same trajectory at high school. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Yeah. I was in all like the, you know, they separate people in high school. Like, yeah, we think you're going to be good in this class. Right. You'll be all right. Like, you know, then you'll, you know, you got the middle people who are normal. Then you got the smart people. they put them in the elevated classes.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Right. I was with y'all in the blow. Right. Again, it was because, yeah, I was like, I don't give it shit. Yeah. Yeah, I wasn't interested at all. No.
Starting point is 00:06:44 He used to be on a roll. I think I should was some D-I shit. Yeah. Well, just white lady, Ken. I think it was what in fifth grade? I think so. Yeah, yeah. Right, and she came to,
Starting point is 00:06:55 and she went to talk to my parents and said, Keepa's doing really well in classes. Is this in the lower classes? Yeah, well, was it like fifth grade. This is unheard of, right? For a black kid. We're going to put him next year. We're going to put him in the honor roll classes.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Oh, I remember that. Did you remember that? She came to the house, yeah. Right? Yeah. And I remember the look on her face when he came to the house. Man, this is a shithole. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Yeah, but I used to apply my, well, I would focus better than Kevin. I was actually like getting B's and A's and he was getting like D's and F. A Dity case. Man, why you keep doing all this school shit? So I saw him do what the fuck he was doing. So he's a good influence. Right. It was a great influence.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah, but anyway, you were saying you were in school. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, barely made it out of high school. And then my parents were, like, real big on, you know, back, I'm sure most parents back then were like, oh, you don't get a college degree. You're not going to be shit.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Right, yeah, yeah. And so they. I don't have that problem. I was black. Hey, man, what you just stopped? Like, you did it get in the NBA or NFL? You're good with your hands. That's what you, that's all you get at.
Starting point is 00:07:59 No, go ahead. I'm sorry. Good job. Well, yeah, I got tried, like, I tried, like, a half a semester. college and was like again like this isn't for me i'm not doing it was that community college and yeah we did that too yeah it was like this is a joke so i got out and i'm just like working odd jobs for half a year and i was like i was hanging around you know the wrong people too you know i mean actually they were my good friends but it was just like we i knew i was like we ain't going nowhere man
Starting point is 00:08:23 so i got you know i went to the recruiting office uh right and just was like dude sign me up like i'm i want to leave yeah that's how we're on the marines yeah yeah all my friends were going to jail for like selling drugs and stuff. I was like, get me the fuck out of here. You join the Marine Corps. I saw one of my friends at the car wash, washing cars, and I was like, man, I got to do something. I worked for the car wash for a bit.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Oh, yeah, man, that's where all the, you know, the druggies work. Because you got some of you found, like, you were cleaning cars. You could find shit under people's seats or like that. Right. That's going in my pocket. Man, the shit we did with his kids, man. Oh, I know. What'd you grow up at?
Starting point is 00:09:08 So I actually, my dad was in the Army, so he was an officer, so we would move from D.C., go to D.C. for two years, then go to China, two years, come back, D.C., then go to Korea. So I grew up, like, half my child in Asia, but then we lived in Virginia, Springfield, Virginia. What was that like, looking at a bunch of Asian kids? I'm sure you was, like, the only white kid there. Yeah, well, in China, I went to, like, well, they had, like, an ex-pac. hat, little community from what I can remember. But yeah, like we had, you know, Chinese kids in our school along with, like, British and, you know, every other nationality.
Starting point is 00:09:42 So you didn't feel oppressed by the Chinese feet? Not by the Koreans, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Koreans, man, they're vicious, dude. Like, oh, really? I mean, no, I like being there, but yeah, yeah. People are always talking about racism and, you know, this group and that group's racist. I'm like, the Koreans are the most racist.
Starting point is 00:09:56 I have a hundred. They hate everybody, yeah. But they're good people. I ain't not trying to bash on Koreans. just say my experience being there, yeah, growing up. I got made fun of for being white, you know, all the time. But, you know, people make, call people racist, but that's like, like, being human. Like, you see somebody different.
Starting point is 00:10:15 You're going to treat them differently because. You're going to make fun of, like, the stuff. Like, yeah, I've never seen that before. And then you'll make some. Like, we all make fun of the fat kid. We're all made fun of the kid who had, you know, messed up teeth. It's just a human thing to do as a kid. But that's back when, you know, you were taught to have thick skin and be like, hey,
Starting point is 00:10:31 You can brush it off and keep moving on. But now we're at a point where everybody's feelings matter. When you in Korea was just a kid, you wasn't, you hadn't hit puberty in that, right? I was in sixth and seventh grade. Sixth grade. So you was about to hit puberty. Man, that's the reason why I went to the military. I wanted to go to Japan.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I wanted something that long time. Yeah. I saw a full motor jacket. I said, stuff joined in the Marine. I wanted me an aging chick. Yeah. It wasn't up. Well, my friends going to jail, but I saw that move.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I said, man, this is what we're going to do. We're going to go to Japan and find ourselves and wives. I mean, we was like from a small country place, man. We didn't have shit going for us. So we thought that was great. Didn't even go to Okinawa or Japan. They sent me to fuck California. Oh, yeah, we're at Pendleton?
Starting point is 00:11:20 Yeah, I was MCRD San Diego, the recruit depro. Okay, yeah, I lived right down the street from there. No shit. Yeah, when I was with the SEAL teams, like that's pretty much where I live for 15 years. Yeah, I was in Tustin, California. with the old air wing before they closed it down. I was stationed that the whole time.
Starting point is 00:11:35 So you guys were separated. Yeah. Oh, shit. Did you guys go to boot camp together? No, they wouldn't let us. That's what I'm going to ask, yeah. We wouldn't make it. We wouldn't make it.
Starting point is 00:11:43 These two troublemakers, yeah. They said, man, the drill and strings would have to fill there with us. Yeah. So you was in Korea for a majority of your childhood. I mean, we was in boot camp. What?
Starting point is 00:11:57 Oh, it is. When our platoons crossed? Our platoons crossed. And then, Then the gunnery sergeant, what was this? Drill Strill Strick. Drillist. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:09 He was a staff sergeant. And it's been so long ago. He said, and he called us both out in front of both opportunities. And they just fucking just hammered us. It's like, how did your mom have fucking two of you? Thank God. Messed up twice. Just shitting all over you.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Yeah. Shitting all over us. And it was like, dude, I'm surprised I didn't fucking kill myself. I'm surprised I didn't fucking kill myself. That's what makes you a Marine, though. It was horrible. Marines get treated there. They get treated like shit all the time, man.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Every guy there before they went home, they at least cried once. Yeah. I'd probably cry like... But it made us tough, though. Yeah, that's right. That's the Marine Corps, man. They keep you all in cages and rattle it. It was time for war.
Starting point is 00:12:51 There's a big psychological game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I served. I did five years with the Marines. I was a corpsman, though. Yeah. So you was a medic?
Starting point is 00:12:59 Yep. What was that training like? Well, after I went to Navy boot camp in 99. And then you had to choose a race. So when I joined the Navy, and dude, I didn't know what I was doing. Right. Just get me out of here. But then, uh, open contract?
Starting point is 00:13:14 Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was like, well, but what I told him, I was like, hey, I want to be a seal. Like I knew I was like, am I going to do this? I want to be like a warrior because I watched, you know, all the rambos and everything growing up. Right. So in my 18-year-old mind, you know, I'm like, yeah, that's, that's awesome, right? Yeah, I remember growing up to Rambo.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Yeah. Yep, and Predator and all the movies. Yeah. Dude, I'm telling you. That guy. All the Switzerland, Nago. Rambo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:38 So, yeah, I told him, I was like, hey, I want to be a seal. And he's like, oh, yeah, no problem. And, you know, contract was done right there. But he's like, you've got to pick a rate, which is, like, your job in the Navy before you can go be a seal. So I picked Korman because he said, uh, they're hurting for Korman. So he's like, if you pick this, you'll, you'll be sure to go to buds. It actually ended up being the opposite.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I got done boot camp. You ain't going to be a seal. They're overmanned in Corman. Yeah, these recruiters are a bunch of lives. Oh, they are, man. He got me, you know. But so, yeah, you go right from boot camp to core school, which is like where you learn basic first aid. I mean, it's nothing like, they might have changed it by now, but back in 99, it was like, you come out of there, maybe like a half-ass nurse.
Starting point is 00:14:20 You know, I know how to do some things, but then you get to choose while you're there to like, what do you want to do for a job? like, do you want to go to the fleet on a ship or you can go to the Marine Corps because Marines don't have their own medics? Like, we supplied them. And so I was like, you know, I'm going to the Marines. I'm not going to a ship. I was already disappointed in the Navy. I was like, dude, the boot camp was a joke. I was like, this is
Starting point is 00:14:40 not what I signed up for. Yeah, walking around and bail bottom. Yeah, man, I did. I had, yeah, we were one of the last ones to have those. I was on a Navy ship to USS Mercy and it was nothing but dudes. Yeah, right? Nothing but dudes. I was like, why would you join a Navy? like a float in prison.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Because six months out of time, you had, you had C, right? Yeah, or longer. Yeah. And I remember the atmosphere because it was a bunch of just dudes, right? And then all the females, all the females are officers.
Starting point is 00:15:11 And all the dudes was following the females around like, like they were preyed. Yep. They were just sucking her. Like they were vultures. Yeah. You get them deployment goggles, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Yep, they start looking better and better each day. Right. Especially if there's only one or two females. Yeah, I'm sure. That's the thing. There were dogs. Yeah. That's what Trump would call.
Starting point is 00:15:31 These are dogs. These are pretty girls, but. Yeah, how long was your training to be a medic? It had to be like two and a half months, maybe two months. Oh, okay. Yeah, but then you go to field med school. If you're going to go to the Marines, they send you to like this mini-marine boot camp. And it's also, you're not.
Starting point is 00:15:54 learn in medicine, but it's sort of like, hey, get you ready for the culture of the Marine Corps. So you're there for another couple months, you know. But it's a bunch of dumb-ass kids from all over the country. Oh, yeah. Believe me. It's the same in the Navy, too, man. Yeah. You got everything, you know, you got everything ranging from, you know, some kids are smart that
Starting point is 00:16:10 want to volunteer, but there's a lot from bottom of the barrel. Like, I was one of them. Like, I got nowhere else to go. Oh, you look at the world's finest. Yeah. I remember I had to go to the dentist when I was in the Marine Corps. he gave me some feelings, right? And later that day, I got a fever.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Right? And I remember I was getting my feelings done. They told me he wasn't a real dentist who was in training. They all are. Right? Yeah. So he got infected. And I went to the San Diego Hospital, the Navy Hospital.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Bobo. Yeah, Bobo. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, we've got to take this two-five. It's infected. If we don't take it out, it's going to fucking kill you. Because that infection is going to go straight to your brain. You're going to be.
Starting point is 00:16:53 if we don't take it out now you're probably gonna fucking die you know what's crazy is I had the exact same thing happened to me really yeah I'm not joking they yanked like three of my teeth out and uh I went to a civilian dentist when I went home
Starting point is 00:17:07 because I was having issues and he looked in my he looked at my shit he was like yo who did this to you and I was like the dentist at the Marine you know he's like yeah dude if you could sue he's like this dude destroyed your mouth like none of these had
Starting point is 00:17:21 to come out these were all minor problems But like you said, they're all in training. Yeah, and they're training on the recruits. Look like if they're in training, maybe you should put a real doctor with them when they're training. It's crazy. You would think. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I had to pull the tooth and when he pulled it out the doctor's laugh. He said, man, it's a bunch of green shit came up your face. But I pull that tooth out. He's like, fuck, you got gang green with your head. And your mouth? Yeah, he was lavies, man. I pulled a bunch of green shit out. Damn.
Starting point is 00:17:49 He said, as soon as I pulled the tooth, it looked like a river green shit. You start flowing out your face. That can jack you up, though, real good. He's right about that because I went to, when I went to Buds, which was steel training, I had all, you know, that work. Right. We're not even calling it work, whatever they did to be done.
Starting point is 00:18:06 And I'm going through Hell Week, and near the end, like, I felt like someone was hit me with a baseball bat in the side of the mouth. And I was like, dude, what? You can't see yourself. You're already jacked up. Yeah. And one of the instructors pulled me out and was like, you need to go to medical right now. Yeah. You know, and I'm trying to refuse.
Starting point is 00:18:21 I'm like, nope, because I don't want to get dropped. But they had to take me an emergency dental the same thing. They're like, if this thing is so infected, if you let this go, you could lose your jaw. Yeah. So, yeah, they had to work on it right there. It's like one in a, actually serious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Fucking Marines. Shout out to, shout out to, Simplified, Navy, dogs. That shit was nuts. What is it like going through seal train? I guess it depends on how you look at it. Yeah. It's, I loved it.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Yeah, it was, I mean, I fought for four years when I was in the Marine Corps to get there. I kept putting in orders trying to get there and kept getting denied. And, you know, eventually some chief saw my record. And he was like, dude, why hasn't this guy's applied like 25 times? Let him go. So he let me go. And so by the time I got there, I was just, dude, I was thankful to be there. So, I mean, it's, it's tough, you know, it's just another selection process just to see how bad you want it.
Starting point is 00:19:18 You know what? Before I joined the Marine Corps, me and Keith was vacuum cleaning the salesmen. Door to door. Door to door. Chief was the supervisor. Some Dyson. Some damn curbies. Curbies. And we had this dude that he was a salesman.
Starting point is 00:19:35 He said he tried to be a Navy selling. It didn't work out. He said they dropped him off in a helicopter in underwear with a ramble of diamond out in the middle of the jungle. And he had to get to a certain point. He said he never made it. Yeah, there's a reason why he's selling vacuum cleaners. He's full of shit. Yeah, that doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:19:58 He was a liar. Yeah, I heard all like, that's what's funny when you're prepping to go. Yeah. You're talking to people and like, oh, this is what I want to do. And you'll meet a lot of characters that say they went. You know, oh, yeah, went and they'll make up some outrageous. Like, I heard, you know, you had to kill a puppy. Like, they make you have a puppy and, you know, kill it at the end.
Starting point is 00:20:18 He said he had to sleep in a tree. or the lions would have got him. Yeah, all right. I said, dude, you went to sleep in a tree? I said, well, can't the lions go up the tree? He's like, yeah, but I slept with one eye open. That's like, they teach you to do that in the seals, yeah, for sure. Yeah, none of that shit is true.
Starting point is 00:20:39 It's just, dude, it. You got to be like a fish, though, right? You got better to swim pretty, right? Yeah, I mean, you definitely got to be comfortable in the water. But there's people that show up there. especially the brothers, man. The K-Swift? Yeah, some of them have a hard time.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I mean, you know, and you guys are like more muscular dense. Yeah. And so they sink. But they make it through, man. I mean, it's just perseverance. And, you know, sometimes I have to put in the extra work when Buzz is not going on to, you know, pass. It's how bad you want it. But it's actually pretty, dude, it's pretty simple, man.
Starting point is 00:21:12 There's not a lot there. There's pull-up bars, logs, sand, and water. Do you have to do a certain amount of pull-ups and a certain amount of time? or is it a time or when you run a certain distance or? Yeah, so while you're there, you have to, I mean, you, every morning you wake up PT at like 5 a.m. And yeah, you have instructors out there just, you know, they're doing, you do hundreds of pull-ups or push-ups or whatever that
Starting point is 00:21:36 instructors get at is probably what you're going to do the most of. And then you got to have, you got to meet the standards on, so each week you got to do a four-mile time run. You got to meet, the times get cut shorter and shorter as you go on. So you have to get faster. Oh, wow. You got to do a two-mile ocean swim each week and pass it.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Two miles? Yep, in the ocean. In the ocean. Yeah. Dude, I don't think I can swim 10 feet? It's, yeah, I mean, it depends. Two miles in the ocean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Wow. Yeah, you definitely got to know how to swim pretty well. I mean, you don't got to be a super swimmer, but like for those. I mean, and that's what's great about buds is there's so much stuff that you have to pass and be good at. they'll find there's a weakness for everybody right so oh i see like for me you know i could run real fast and i could swim fast i was like 155 pounds you know but i was definitely in great shape but then you know log pt which they're you know beating you you have a log for three hours and you're having to hold it up and i mean oh a log yeah so you're on a log with four or five other people
Starting point is 00:22:42 and they're just putting you through exercises for three hours and that's probably one of the most punishing evolutions. Yeah. It's one of the, you'll, they'll find a weakness some way and exploit it. Um, right. It's just, all they want to see is can you get past that weakness? Can you, um, do you have the grit and determination? And can you just keep going and not quit? Um, so they make you fall. They just want to see if you can get back up. Yeah. Yeah. Um, that's, that's pretty much it. I mean, it's, uh, it's pretty simple. Like I said, there's no magic to it. It's just don't, don't quit. Um, and meet the standard. Yeah, you went through, you went through Marine Corps boot camp, right?
Starting point is 00:23:16 No, I went, so I went to Navy boot camp, but then I went to, like I said, to field med school, which is I wouldn't even call Marine Corps boot camp. But they try and emulate it a little bit to try and get you used to the culture. Oh, okay. So I did four years at Camp Lejeune with one. Yep, I've been in Camp Lejeune. Yeah, it's a great place. Remember the massage followers? There's one on every block.
Starting point is 00:23:38 He called them the Jack Shacks. Yeah. The Jack Shacks? Yeah. It's been a while since I've been a minute. You get paid on what the 15th? in the first. As soon as we got paid, we was going to the Jack Shacks.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yep. Or they were saying they had that strip club Driftwood right outside the front gate and that would be like a line wrapped around that trying to get in. First and 15th, yeah. Nothing but Marines a name. Looking for their wife.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Man, that was a good old days, man. It was, man. It was a good time there. I wish I could go back and do that all over again. I didn't realize how good it was, but... My son's in the Marines right now. Yeah, he just, yeah, he, he graduated boot camp last December. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:24:19 So he's at school in Virginia, but, yeah, I call him. I'm like, how's it going? Yeah, man. It depends. Like, somebody's like, man, fuck this. Like, I want to get out. But then some days, like, no, it's going good. I'm like, let me tell you something, dude.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I was like, this is the best time in your life right now. Yeah. Right when you get in and you're like, experience it all. All these different people, yeah. You're going to make buddies for life. I'm like, you like cherish it. Try to, man. Yeah, I wish I could go back and do that.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Yeah. I said take pictures. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't take no pit. Me either. Well, we didn't have PIP. We didn't have cell phones. Nope.
Starting point is 00:24:50 That's true. Yeah, those Kodak. Yeah. You're going to walk around with a damn polar road all day. So, yeah, man, I wish I could do that over, but, you know. Yeah. Did you try to talk to your son out because you went through something? You had a lot of good times, but you had some very, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:08 I mean, the end, yeah, the end of my career was definitely pretty shitty. But, no, man, like, he came. So he's a. That dude is like a brainiac, man. He's smarter than anybody else in our household. So he went to UC Santa Cruz to get his chemistry degree. And he was there. Yeah, that's, I mean, this is what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Like, the dude, his homework he was doing, it looked like hieroglyphics to me. I was like, I don't know what's going on. Right. I mean my sister brought home a calculus book. I don't even see any numbers in it. Yeah. Just letters. That's how I feel bad for my kids because they, I'm like, listen, man.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I was a punk. Like, I know this shit. Yeah. I'll try to help you out as best I can. Yeah. Right, right. But yeah, he went during, obviously, his first year is when all that shit was going on with me. And then the next two years of COVID happened.
Starting point is 00:25:55 And up there in Northern California, it was like a, you know, left extremist boot camp he was going to, like, not a lot outside his room. You know, could have to, yeah, I mean, they were Nazis up there. So he finally called us and he was like, dude, I'm not doing it, like mentally at all. I can't, you know. So I flew out there with my youngest son. I was like, pack your shit. I drove him back to Florida. I was like, you'll rehabilitate here.
Starting point is 00:26:18 And then we'll finish out your classes. And while he was home, he's like, I ain't going back. He's like, I'm not doing it. I'm joining the Marine Corps. And so I had, you know, two-day talk with him as a dad, like, hey, you sure, you know, this is what you want to do. And he's like, yep, man, and he gave me all the right answers. And I was like, I support you, man.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I was like, I don't, you know, even though that crap happened to me, I was like, I have no, like, I love the military, man. Like, my family was raised in it. My family's got a legacy in it. I think it's a good thing, you know. I just think right now we just have some piss-poor leaders running it. And that can change. Yeah. We just gave away the cheap Rubicon, the good old Ip.
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Starting point is 00:28:48 Eight on. How many times you do? Nine, nine, four of one. Nine. Shit, dude. I thought when I was in Rinkaw, when I heard about people like being a grunt, I thought when I thought of the grunts and nits seals,
Starting point is 00:29:00 I thought maybe people would do that shit for four years and then switch over to something else. But people like you, you actually did it, your entire career, and you actually retired a seal. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, I think during the time that we were, you know, myself and my generation were able to be in, I mean, it was,
Starting point is 00:29:16 if you really wanted to join and go to war and, like, I actually do that, then we joined at the right time, and we got 20 years of it. So, I mean, that is what I joined to do. Like, I told you, even though I had no real idea of what, like, a warrior, like, somebody like that is, I was like, that's what I want. And I just kept after it, and, you know, 9-11 happened. and it was like, that's it. So we got to just keep deploying a combat over and over.
Starting point is 00:29:41 And so near the end of my career was my, obviously my last deployment. We went to Missoule, Iraq, and we were trying to get rid of ISIS out of there, which was awesome deployment. Trump was in office. He had just got an office, so we actually got a full-on directive, which was to, like, eliminate them all. So we just pushed through that whole city and tried to kill his man. them as we could. And so at the end of that deployment, we came home. And that thing was good, right?
Starting point is 00:30:12 Everything was like the deployment good. We know the, the mission was accomplished. But during that deployment, there was some toxicity going on within the platoon. I was the platoon leader, an enlisted leader as a platoon chief. And some of the dudes, actually, it's like three of the dudes that worked underneath me didn't like me. We just, we weren't. People that you was, you know, you was pretty, basically, you was their manager. Yeah, like, you know, it's, yeah, you're the man. You're the, you're the, you're the, lead on tactical expertise. Like you're the one who's like if you're going to go out and do a mission, you're going to be working all the tactics on a mission and kind of, you know, sort of determining like,
Starting point is 00:30:50 hey, this is how we're going to take down this target. And then you're also in lead when you're out there actually doing the job. The officer, you have an officer in charge, obviously. That's sort of like corporate level. Right, right. And then there you have an LPO who's below the chief. That is sort of like the manager. So you're like, hey, this is what I want done.
Starting point is 00:31:08 The LPO then goes and executes it and delegates to everybody else. So I had like three guys in that platoon that, you know, our personalities didn't jive. How long have those guys been in it was? So I was 10 years older than the oldest dude in that platoon. Oh, okay. So there was a big generational gap as well. Yeah, they have babies. Yeah, pretty much.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I mean, compared to me, you know, it was, and they hadn't, none of them had combat experience at all. Wow. But you went on eight to pull. Yeah, so that's all I had been doing. So it was definitely, you know, it was different. But these guys were, you know, they said they wanted it. They're like, this is what we signed up for. And then when we got over there and actually got into the show, they sort of showed their ass a little bit.
Starting point is 00:31:52 You could see, you know, it wasn't, they weren't comfortable with a lot of stuff that was going on. And it was, I'll give them this. That was a chaotic deployment. There was a lot of, what do you call it? Death. A lot of death. A lot of watching women and kids and men get mowed down in front of us by ISIS. So, I mean, it was a lot to take on for somebody that's never been to combat.
Starting point is 00:32:13 So I'll give you that benefit for the doubt. But the problem with them, much like the problem with a lot of that generation and just what I see it now is like there's no accountability. It's like, hey, maybe I'm not cut out for this. Instead, they blamed. This is your fault that you put me in this situation. You're making me do these things. So that toxicity sort of built up. During that deployment, those three were trying to get other people to join them in the platoon, like, hey, you know, just hating on me all the time.
Starting point is 00:32:41 That's crazy because many times you went to deploy in these war combat zones, and they have no experience, and they're attacking you for doing what they sign up to do. Yeah, I mean, it's weak. That's just a sign of weakness. But, you know, nevertheless, it's what they did. But, you know, we finished out the deployment, and we got home, and they got home. kept that going. So they went to the command. And so I got, I got some accolades from that deployment. I got, you know, number one chief. I was getting put in for awards, stuff like that. And so they went. And that must have really pissed him off. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They were, they were not happy about that.
Starting point is 00:33:18 So they went to the command and were like, hey, this guy, he's dangerous. Like, his tactics are dangerous. He was making us do, you know, dangerous stuff out there. So the command was like, well, what was he making you that was dangerous? And so they'd expect him. explain it and the command was like, nope, those are tactics. Like, we've been doing those for the past 20 years. So then they just kept escalating their allegations, trying to get something. It's like, oh, well, he was stealing from us. And they're like, what? You stole from? Yeah, so I stole. You stole from the Marines? Went to the Jack Shack? Yeah. Brought back my Marine Corps days.
Starting point is 00:33:55 What did you say you stole? Let's see, a Red Bull out of the fridge, which was six months, you know, prior. So you did take. That I mean, I'm like, maybe, you know, maybe I did take a red. I don't know. Like, why are you bringing this up six months later? Yeah, it's a fucking red ball, right? Yeah. Power bars out of like the care packages.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Like, it was, it was such like petty BS. And then once again, the command was like, you know, get out of here. Like, this isn't, this isn't an issue. And then it wasn't until probably eight weeks later they came back for like, we saw him stab an ISIS prisoner to death. A prisoner? Yeah. And which we'll get to that because there was no prisoners on that deployment.
Starting point is 00:34:36 We weren't taking any. So the command's like, all right, they were like, are you, like, you want to go through with this? And they're like, yeah. And so the command's like, all right, good night. I don't blame. You know, the command had to report it. They're like, this is a war crime or whatever you want to call it, law of arm
Starting point is 00:34:51 conflict. So they have to let them pursue it. Yeah. So that pretty much got, you know, reported to NCIS, which is, naval criminal investigative service. They actually do belong to the Marine Corps as well. They like the military's FBI, right? Actually, you know what?
Starting point is 00:35:10 At this point, you can compare them to the FBI. It's a joke. It's a joke. It's like they're like the hallway monitors at school back in high school. Oh, yeah. A little nerds. So once those guys took over,
Starting point is 00:35:24 like I said, you have a bunch of nerds that never amounted to anything in their life except for trying to investigate people actually doing the job. This guy, Joel Rapinski, took the case, and he was, like, the worst combination of ambition and incompetence you've ever seen. So he wanted to make, he's like, dude, I'm going to make a case out of this. That's crazy. He's attacking a war veteran, and something he's never experienced.
Starting point is 00:35:47 He's never walked those shoes. Oh, that was my whole trial. Like, the amount of people that were condemning me for, you know, whatever my actions or my past career, none of them had any experience. None of them had even been to Iraq or Afghanistan or probably could point it out on a map. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Yeah, they were weak. I mean, it's just dudes trying to make, you know, a career, climb that ladder. They don't care who they take down, you know. So, yeah, this guy took the case, and it was pretty much, I was guilty. You know, like, we're going to get this dude no matter what. So they ended up,
Starting point is 00:36:23 eventually I was told I was under like, hey, you're under investigation. I was like, all right, you know, what do I do? And then no one would help me. They were like, my whole command, like, completely backed away from me. They're like, you're on your own. So I ended up, I hired, I got a lawyer. I talked to a lawyer, actually. I didn't hire one.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I was like, hey, what do I do? He was like, hey, well, this lawyer worked for a nonprofit called United American Patriots. And what they said they would do, they're like, if you get, if your case starts going the way you think it's going to go, we will defend you. And we'll step in and help, no charge. This is what we do. I was like, all right, sweet. So it wasn't until, like, months later is when they raided my house.
Starting point is 00:37:06 And my wife and I went home. They raided your house. Oh, yeah. Dude, they... What the hell were they looking for? That's the thing. It's, you know, they didn't even have to do that. It was all...
Starting point is 00:37:16 These are all tactics done to drive fear into your family, break your family apart and it's also to drive fear into everyone else from talking to you. So when they raided my house, they sent, I mean, it was like I was a freaking cartel leader, man.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Right. The SUVs blocking off all the streets. They were yelling people to get inside. So my youngest son, who was eight at the time, and my oldest who had just turned 18, they pulled them out at gunpoint or underwear. And that's what I mean,
Starting point is 00:37:46 gunpoint, like at guns at their heads, like got them out in the street. At kids. Yeah. My wife, like I said, my wife wasn't home, neither was I. I was actually being interrogated at the time. So they knew who was home. They didn't have to.
Starting point is 00:37:59 They knew. All this shit was done on purpose. Like there's no, oh, we didn't know. It's like they planned it out. Everything they do is, like I said, to use as a scare tactic or to like drive fear into you. Like, hey, big side. I'll do whatever you want. You know, don't.
Starting point is 00:38:14 It's, and I mean, it's done by just weak individuals. Sounds so un-American. You, what you did for a country and for them to treat you like that? Yeah, it is. It's completely un-American. Even if you don't serve your country, you can't just do that to an American citizen. Right, right. That violates, I don't know how many rights.
Starting point is 00:38:31 But the thing is, when you're in the military, you don't have the rights that you think you do. Right. You find that out when you're put in a situation like this. So, yeah, my wife ended up coming home halfway through the raid. They started interrogating her. She was like, why are you guys here? They're like, your husband. They're like, your husband.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Yeah. They were like, your husband. is a murderer. She's like, well, who did he murder? And they're like ISIS, an ISIS member. And she, she's like, she's looking at him like. So they're attacking you for killing ISIS? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:02 She thought she was on candid camera. She was like, you know, do you know what my husband does for a living? Right. But it didn't matter. They, as soon as they did that, I moved my family to Florida. I was like, I'm retiring. Move them down there. I had a year left, so I came back to San Diego to just GeoBatch until I got out.
Starting point is 00:39:24 And so when I came back and I was by myself, I went to a TBI clinic called Intrepid Spirits where you get checked out for all the times you've been blown up and hurt and everything because, you know, a lot like, I'm sure you guys in the Marine Corps and it seems like you won't go to medical. You're like, no, I can suck it up and keep going. But when you get out, you're like, hey, I want to get checked out so I can get, you know, the benefits I deserve. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:39:50 So while I was there, they came and raided that. We're not rated, but they came in and arrested me out of there on September 11th of all days. They picked that day to do it. And that, again, done on purpose because they knew that is the reason I was doing what I've been doing the past 20. They thought that would drive some kind of like, you know, invoke some reaction out of me. Yeah. Yeah. So they came and got me and just threw me a military prison that day.
Starting point is 00:40:14 You know, I didn't, it wasn't, I didn't resist. I was like, this is ridiculous. this is a mistake. I literally thought when they put me in there, I was like, I'm going to be out of here in like two days, nine and a half months later. Wow, nine and a half months? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:28 It's not like your flight risk. No. Well, let's see, here's the thing. So when you're in there, they have this kangaroo court. I forget what they call it. There's a name for it. But pretty much you're in there for like a week,
Starting point is 00:40:41 and they pick an officer from the base. It was on Miramar Air Station in San Diego. So they pick him to come in and be your judge. and it's to determine whether This is the officer? Yeah, so this officer comes in and he's going to determine whether or not you're a threat
Starting point is 00:40:57 or you belong to stay in prison before your trial or they can let you out. And so I go into this room, this guy, this officer they picked off the base, is sitting there and that's when the prosecutor came in and Joe Warpinski, the NCS agent, and they pretty much gave this 30-minute act. they're like he has done this this like all the qualifications I have had over my career they use against me they're like he's sniper he's this he's that like he's a danger to the case like they they were trying to act like I was Jason born like if we let him out now he's going to escape he's a danger to the investigation but then they started attacking my character like making up lies they're like he's a fake Christian he beats his wife all like just saying this shit like yeah
Starting point is 00:41:46 Well, and none of it was true. Right. They rattled off all these, like, insane accusations attacking my character. And I'm looking at my lawyer because he was in there and I'm like, dude, are you going to say something? He's like, and so this guy was like, this is the way it is. Like, yeah, so as soon as they gave that act, the judge is like, no, you're staying. That's crazy. Nothing to back it up.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Nope. You're not allowed to defend yourself. You just have to sit there and take it. So after that, obviously they're like, you're not getting out. and I just stay, yeah, I stayed in Gen Pop for the rest of the time. That's crazy, these officers, they're supposed to be our smartest and our brightest. Nobody said, wait a minute, this is wrong? No, man, because in order to do that, you have to have some kind of moral fiber and moral courage to stand up and do the right thing.
Starting point is 00:42:30 But I think we've seen over the past 15 years the deprogression of leadership and not in our country, right? And our officers are no different. they're getting trained at these academies where they're being told this is how you climb the ladder this is how you make a career of yourself it doesn't matter what you do to the men and women below you where it used to be taught
Starting point is 00:42:51 you serve the men and women below you you are a leader that they should look up to and those I mean I had officers like that when I first came in but now it's we've it's tainted you know that whole officer corps is tainted yeah everybody's trying to stand on each other get to move up yeah that's it man
Starting point is 00:43:07 so that's that's why you don't have anybody And that's, I mean, I found that out during my whole process, right? Because I had no idea. I never paid attention to just how bad the political crap was in the military. I mean, you always knew officers when they get to a certain rank or sort of politicians in uniform, right? But you just didn't know how bad it actually was. And so during my whole thing, I saw, like you said, people that I thought were stand-up people, people that I thought actually had values.
Starting point is 00:43:37 And I mean, these are teammates that I went to war with. that literally stood on the wayside, you're on your own, man. Like, good luck. I don't, I'm not going to say what they're doing to you is wrong or right, because I don't want to get punished either. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:49 And that's, you know, and that's, they drive fear into everybody doing that, right? What were you actually charged with? So initially, well, I wasn't sure I was in prison for about two and a half months
Starting point is 00:44:01 before I got officially charged. And then they came at me. It was premeditated murder. Of who? Isis. He's supposed to kill him. Yeah, yeah, I can't make this shit up. So it was premeditated murder of ISIS.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I was facing life without parole. That was mine. That was what I was facing. Like, you're going away for life. And as soon as that hit the media, the reaction is just like, people were like, what the fuck? Like, this is what we're sending them over to do. Right. So then they realized that hurts the case.
Starting point is 00:44:35 So what they did is they slapped on two more murder charges. So I went to a hearing, because I had all sorts of little hearings leading up to the actual trial. And during this hearing, they were like, we are going to add two more murder charges. He murdered a little girl and a old man on Father's Day. And again, I was like, where is this coming from? And it didn't have to. They were like, yep, throw those on there too. So then I was facing three murder charges plus like a slew of just BS military.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Nothing about a picture, right? Conduct on becoming. Yeah. Yeah, I took a picture with 12 older individuals with the ISIS fighter. But they was in charge. No, none of that mattered. It was just me? You know, was you the only white guy in the picture?
Starting point is 00:45:24 That is crazy. That is insane. Yeah. It sounds like almost like a comedy sketch. And that's literally what it could be, man. I mean, just like going to trial in that military courtroom. My wife said, it best she's like this is like a slash between a few good man and my cousin Vinnie she's like this is a
Starting point is 00:45:42 joke like yeah go ahead let me ask that so you were in the picture but beside the body yeah who took the fucking picture one of the guys in the platoon yeah yeah um so wait a minute you he's like i'm gonna take a picture yeah and i so the what they sold it as is i forced everybody into that picture wow yeah what yeah that's crazy you kill it your mission is go out and kill ISIS. You kill them before they kill you and you can't take a picture. That's the thing. I'm the first, I think I'm the first person ever to get charged in a court mawarser for taking a picture with a dead enemy combat. You know what's crazy? When I was at Marine Corps, it was two days before we graduated from boot camp. And a bunch of parents came. I forget what they call. They call it Parents Day. It was two days before graduation. Yeah, okay. Yeah, it was Parents Day. And a bunch of the kids' father showed up. All of them had pictures of dead Vietnamese people. killed. Everybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:40 It was like the thing to do when you were in combat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You killed the enemy. You take a picture. Yeah. It's like when you go hunting, you get, you kill something big.
Starting point is 00:46:47 You're like, yeah, I'm proud of what I just killed. Yeah. Right. So, actually, there's, there's a process. I mean, y'all had a camera there for a reason. That's, is that common to take pictures in certain circumstances or no? No. Well, it depends on the mission, right?
Starting point is 00:47:03 So, like, yeah, if you go out and hit a target and you're doing, we call SS. SSE sensitive site exploitation where you're gathering intel. Then, yeah, you go around and take pictures of like, hey, here's the dude we shot. Here's the gun next to him. Right. Here's the stuff we found, you know, in his room or on his body. There are, there is points, you know, there is a point to taking pictures sometimes or video. For this, no, this was purely done out of just like we were fucking around.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Yeah, but y'all's environment, y'all, you can't have a break? That's, yeah. Well, that's the thing that's hard to explain to people, right? Yeah. Even with the picture, people are like, oh, my gosh, you're so unprofessional and this is like so bad. And I'm like, listen, I get, you know, and I'll agree. I'm like, is it unprofessional? Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:45 For sure. Like, but at the same time, like, you're not in that environment with us. We're literally the picture that we took right down the street. There's a pile of dead bodies of women and kids. Right. We're around it 24-7. So I think we're desensitized. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:00 You're not even thinking twice. You're like, this is whatever. It's a joke, you know. And the person did she. killed is not really a person. This is some evil, vile, disgusting person who doesn't even value life. Yeah, and so, and that's what they were, and so
Starting point is 00:48:12 to go back to people's reaction, they're like, oh yeah, it's ISIS, who cares? Well, then the media starts reporting, well, he was 13. He was 14. He was probably 17 or 18 years old. And here's the thing, which I don't care, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:28 these liberal, whatever, they want them trying to make something out of it. I'm like, war is pretty simple. I'm like, it's us first you. I'm like, and if you pick up a gun, you're in the game. And the only way out of the game is death. And I'm playing the same game as you.
Starting point is 00:48:43 So that's it. I don't care what age, gender you are. Like if you are, if you pick up a weapon and you're on the other side, well then you're gone. I was 14 I knew right from wrong. Yeah. And that's, yeah. So, I mean, yeah, I mean, it was just, it's ludicrous.
Starting point is 00:48:59 And a eight-year-old girl can kill you just like a 35-year-old man can. Yeah. Yeah. And that's been done. the past 20 years as well. I mean, they use women and kids, suicide deaths.
Starting point is 00:49:09 What's some of the foulest shit you seen out there when you was in that particular deployment? That ISIS would pull. Well, dude. This is some fucked up shit, yeah. Like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:49:23 one place we went to, there was a park that used to be a park. It was all bombed out. But they had kids heads on spikes. Kids? Yeah, like kids' heads, decapitated.
Starting point is 00:49:34 put their heads on like the fence around there. On the top of the fence? Yeah. You know, we, in order to get into sniper position sometimes, we'd have to, like, push up and trying to get into these buildings,
Starting point is 00:49:46 and these buildings will be blocked off by dead bodies, like piles of dead bodies. So we'd have to climb over the dead bodies to get into the buildings. That was pretty gnarly at times. And then I think, I mean, some of the worst is just watching them.
Starting point is 00:49:59 So we'd be, you know, separated by, like, six, 700 yards, crossing a field or like a pretty open space. And so ISIS would release like 20 women and kids sprinting towards us and then just mow them down halfway through to see if they would pull us out to go save them. Right. And so, you know, the Iraqis that we were with would run out sometimes and then they'd get blasted too. So it was just, yeah, it was foul.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Then they would, they knew we had ISR and, you know, in the air watching looking for stuff to bomb. So what they would do is put cardboard cutouts on the roof of people with guns. So it would look like, you know, somebody who's flying the drone or whatever, like, hey, there's two guys with guns on that building. So they'd like, all right, man, drop a hellfire into it. But what ISIS would do is chain civilians in the house. And so when we would bomb it, then they would use that as propaganda, like, see what they just did? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:54 They're killing civilians. When they were the one, you know, they set up those cardboard cutouts up. I mean, they knew what they were doing. So, yeah, I mean, I don't. I don't know if it can get any fowler, you know. Yeah. Especially, you know, with women and kids, it's like that's about as nasty as it gets. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's one story. Yeah, I went up, I was going up, uh, wrecking the spot one day and there was a woman trying to cross, uh, this road.
Starting point is 00:51:23 And one of the Iraqi forces, there was like multiple Iraqi forces out there, um, was there at the corner and she ran towards them and she, got hit by a sniper and in her arm, but she made it across and she had a baby with her. And so I went over and I pulled out my blowout kit and I just banished her up real quick. And I was like, I'm looking for a spot somewhere near here. And they started talking in Iraqi to her and it started getting like confrontational. And one of the dudes just like executed her right there in front of me, which I was like after I had treated her.
Starting point is 00:51:59 And so I asked one of the turps. to come up. I'm like, why did they just do that? And he's like, oh, that's the wife of an ISIS fighter. That was it, you know? So, I mean, it was... Well, they need you, no? Yeah, and I'm not saying that's right. It's just, I'm just saying that's the environment that we were in.
Starting point is 00:52:16 There was no... There wasn't an American-led war either. So there was no rules. It was pretty savage. So, yeah, I mean, it was... And that's, you know, to bring it back to, like, the picture and everything, when they were making a big deal out of that, that's what it was such a...
Starting point is 00:52:32 A joke, you're like, after everything we just went through on those six months, everything we saw, this is... Red Bulls. Yeah. Red Bulls. Yeah, Red Bulls. Energy bars. Yeah. It was a joke.
Starting point is 00:52:45 That must have put a lot of strain on your marriage, though. You would think, man, but, dude, I'm married to a straight, like the best, bro. She is my best friend. We were best friends in high school. Oh, cool. We met up later on in life and got married. But yeah, she, as soon as that happened, dude, she stood up and started fighting back. She's the only reason I'm sitting here today.
Starting point is 00:53:10 She literally took to social media and started her own organic social media campaign, pretty much putting out everything that they were doing to me. Because while I was locked up, they were also violating my rights. So they would not let me see my lawyers. That was like a privilege. Right. So, dude, they had this. So you have, there was different pods. I think there was like four different pods in there.
Starting point is 00:53:37 And I was in one of the pods, which general population. And so you were assigned a, I don't know, counselor with what the name is. And it was this black chick named Rashida. Oh, shit. Yeah. Can it get any worse? I'm telling you, bro, this was like, dude, she did not give a shit. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:56 So she hated me. she would come in and like so they would make rules up for stuff that I was doing so if I was doing push-ups in my cell they'd be like hey no one's allowed to do push-ups in their cell anymore no working oh yeah the prisoners started calling it the Eddie rules they're like oh was Eddie must have been doing you know because that's how bad they were targeting me in there they wanted me to snap so if you have a and so I'll tell you right now they put a black woman on me I'm a snap so listen to this shit dude this is this is just the environment that you're in so if you're not able to see your lawyer, you know, I'm not, I wasn't able to, like, get medical, uh, treatment.
Starting point is 00:54:35 They, they just deny you everything. So then they have a complaint box where you can complain, be like, hey, or be like, hey, I'm not able to see my lawyer. Well, due to Rashida, not letting me see my lawyer. Well, guess where those complaints go? To restrate to her. So Rashida would come in and be like, oh, Gallagher, get over here. And I'm like, she's like, so I ain't let you see your lawyers? I never complain? She's like, well, now you ain't going to see him for another two months. and she would walk out. I'm not shitting you, dude. That is crazy.
Starting point is 00:55:03 That's the kind of thing going on in Georgia with Trump. And then that black woman up in New York. Yeah. It's like everybody's prosecuted Trump is black. I'm like, what the hell is wrong with black people? Yeah, she was a trip, man. And then she, yeah. So, I mean, all that was going on.
Starting point is 00:55:19 So I'm telling my wife all this over the phone. Like, hey, this is, and she's putting everything out on social media. I'm like, hey, this is what's going on. Here's the actual truth about what's going on. on, combating the whole mainstream media narrative. And so she got a bunch of followers. And then people started, like, catching on. And then eventually, or my brother at the same time, lived in D.C.
Starting point is 00:55:41 So he was going to Congress every day, knocking on doors, like, do something. You know, this is wrong, what's going on. And unfortunately, not a lot of people were paying. They were like, no, there's nothing we can do. You know, he ended up, we ended up getting 50 signatures from some congressmen all on the Republican side. but eventually they both got invited on to Fox and friends to talk about it and that's where Trump who was present at the time got involved he saw what was going on and so when I was in
Starting point is 00:56:12 there one day we're walking to breakfast and one of the guard stops me and he's like I think are you getting out today and I was like I don't fucking know you know he's like well the president just tweeted about you and I was like what and he's like yeah he said to let you out and lay literally later that day I get I get let out but not fully I get let out but then my command comes and locks me in a barracks room and they're like you can't leave this barracks room so pretty much I'm back in prison again for another month and a half and this time same was not allowed to see any of my lawyers could your wife kids come so my wife and kids obviously they were living in Florida and I was locked up in California but my wife would fly out I was allowed visitation
Starting point is 00:56:56 on Sundays, I think. And so you get about a two-hour visitation. So when she came down, she was able to see me on that day when she came and visited. I had a really tight group of friends that came every weekend just to, like, visit and talk. But even with that, and so the prison that I was in was mainly all sex offenders. It was a sex offender prison. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:24 So it was all. Yep, you have sexa. Yeah. So it was all. Like pure hail. It, well, it was like, it was just ridiculous, you know? And like, these people weren't like, you know, they're not a threat. They're, these sexmen are weak men, right?
Starting point is 00:57:39 So it wasn't like, I wasn't worried about anything happening to me. But at the same time, what really pissed me off is when my youngest son came to visit me, he was one of the first times I got to see him. I was not allowed to embrace him, not allowed to touch him. He came in with a tank top on. They made him wear a gown. a hospital gown over him and I'm like, why is he got to wear this? And they're like, because he'll excite the other prisoners if they see his spare skin.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Wow. Like with that are in the way. And you're not allowed to touch him because that'll also excite them too. And we don't want them to, you know, get excited because they already are mentally ill. So, yeah. So that, I mean, all that shit was like pretty ridiculous. And, but I'll tell you what, man. Like, if it wasn't for my wife and brother, I mean, they, my wife was like the, the rock,
Starting point is 00:58:25 and kept my whole family together and did not refuse to let the government drive us apart like they wanted to. She just kept fighting. And they literally did not know what to do. She, by the end of it, her Instagram account and everything she was doing
Starting point is 00:58:39 was being briefed in the Pentagon. Really? Yeah, that's how much of a pain in the ass she was to them. They were like, this chick is like destroying us at every angle. That's the picture your wife from your book right there? Yep. So that's the day we walked, that was the day of the verdict
Starting point is 00:58:54 when we walked out when I got found not guilty and that her face is perfect like I told you so motherfuckers her face is perfect
Starting point is 00:58:59 yeah yeah yeah he got this look like kiss uh white ass yeah
Starting point is 00:59:03 yeah I mean yeah and that's and that's where we also got the you know the fuck around and find out
Starting point is 00:59:09 um thing is that's that was her they kept trying to pull they tried to pull all this slick deceitful shit the whole time
Starting point is 00:59:16 and she would catch them on it put it out there and then they like couldn't get away with it so she was like yeah
Starting point is 00:59:21 fuck around and find out she's like keep trying like I'm just going to keep calling you out. That's crazy. Our own government treating a Navy SEAL like that. Well, that's
Starting point is 00:59:30 our own government treating the President of the United States. I mean, and that's the thing. I wouldn't like seeing how this country is being run now and the things that we're seeing, I mean, right in front of us. I think some people are like, holy shit, I can't. We're like, yep, this doesn't surprise us one bit.
Starting point is 00:59:46 You know what? I don't think this is all new tactics, what they did to you and Trump. No. I think they used it for like foreign forces, foreign governments that would use stuff like what they did to you and Trump. Oh, yeah. But now our government's turned it against our citizens. Yep.
Starting point is 01:00:02 That's exactly right. And it's because of leadership at this point. Yeah, it's all weak leadership, man. I think that is one of the main factors of what's wrong with our country right now. Yeah. Why we're, you know, I wouldn't even say going to shambles, but we definitely have a lot of things wrong going on. Everything's sort of topsy-turvy and upside down.
Starting point is 01:00:20 It's because we've had weak leadership for so long. Yeah. We had four years of strong leadership. And everybody, all the weak ones came after him and just tried to destroy him for those four years. What do you think about those polling numbers for Kamala Harris? You're supposed to like winning the election. I don't believe anything that's put out, man.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Like, where are they polling those from? Yeah. They're probably dead voters. Yeah. Exactly. Or, you know, they're going to some liberal, you know, city like. Like, how can a woman so disliked? Unpopular.
Starting point is 01:00:53 popular, the presidency, it was just going all down here. She dropped out her of presidency, Tennessee, because nobody liked that. And now a sudden she's the most popular candidate ever. Because I think the government knows they can manipulate the American public. Easily, very easily. I think they proved that already during COVID. They're like, we got you morons to stay inside. We got you morons to put a uncontested drug into your body.
Starting point is 01:01:19 We got you to follow all of these rules. And I think, you know, remember before COVID started, the whole paper towel and toilet paper thing? Right. Like, did you, like, when that was going on, I was like, what the fuck? Like, what is this? Like, why are people, why has this become such an issue? Total paper's the last thing on my mind. Right?
Starting point is 01:01:40 So, I mean, and I'm, you know, I tell my wife, I'm like, that was a little test to be like, let's see if we can get these idiots to go out and freaking go nuts over toilet paper and paper towels. And as soon as they saw it, they're like, oh, we got them. We got them. release the COVID thing. And I think, you know, that's why now they think they can get away with it again. I mean, like you talked about, Kamala, she's a bumbling moron. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Joe Biden. You literally didn't think you'd get any worse than Biden, but it's like, no, it can. Like, it's now we got somebody that can actually talk, but nothing intelligent comes out of her mouth. Right. And so when they were like, hey, yeah, we'll just throw her in and then we'll tell her everybody she's up in the polls and tell everybody. She's black. There are people that are going to like, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Because people don't black woman too. Yeah. I don't even think she is. Well, she, what is she like, multiracial? Yeah, she's, whatever she wants to be. Yeah. But, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:35 I don't think of, they say her father's Jamaican and they consider it to be black, but when I look at her dad, I don't see a black man. There's, there's a race of people. When you look at Indians, there's some Indians that are like black people, but they don't identify as black people. That's what her dad looks like. He just like an Afro-Indian. And now they're trying to pull,
Starting point is 01:02:55 try to claim that she's black. And she's not ethnic get black or culturally black. But isn't it crazy, though, like, they are so focused on race. Yeah, that's all they got. But that's the most racist thing ever, because it's like saying, okay, maybe she's Indian,
Starting point is 01:03:10 but we're going to say she's black, what's like, well, then you're shitting on Indian people? Like, they're not good enough? Like, what race is good enough? Yeah. You know, it shouldn't matter. If this Democrat is black.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're doing it's just another ploy for black people to go vote for them Because black people are going to vote for her just because she's black Yeah Do you think that though like because I see a lot of stuff saying like the black communities are like They're waking up yeah like this isn't right like typically every election black people vote like 90 to 95 percent Democrat I think this election is probably going to be around 80 85 percent yeah which is huge
Starting point is 01:03:47 Yeah it's still that's still a large number of good but you would think black people would wake up but nah they are even when she's like faking accents and doing all like it I don't get it I don't get it dude I'm like it's like almost like they're mocking black people yeah nobody picks up on that shit
Starting point is 01:04:02 they like drives me crazy I'm like oh my gosh she doesn't talk like that why y'all like cheering this on and I think that's all people want man it's like something to look at and be like all right I can relate to this person or
Starting point is 01:04:15 or like you know how some people are like well like the big thing I hear you know the one I guess I don't called an argument against Trump. It's just they're like, well, he's just not presidential. And you're like, so by presidential, you want somebody that's articulate that can get up there and be a smooth
Starting point is 01:04:31 talker and make you feel comfortable. I'm like, those are called professional liars. They know how to lie and they can get up there and lie and make you feel good and make you feel comfortable and then they're going to pull some shit behind the curtains that you have no idea. Trump is not a politician.
Starting point is 01:04:47 He's not a, I mean, he's not that articulate. Right? Like, he's pretty much like, this is what I'm going to do and too fucking bad, right? I'm like, he's not, he's in your face of like, this is what I'm about. And I think that's what we need is somebody that doesn't give a shit and is strong and will back up what he says. Just to play any games. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:09 But see, that's the thing about Democrats. They don't run on policy. They run on, like, painting the other side is racist. I mean, they have no policies. So I think that's what they're so effective as politicians. Because Republicans, they rely on policy. you know what I mean I want to do this I want to do that the other side doesn't they just
Starting point is 01:05:25 I want to save the world I want to give you quality everybody yeah I want to bring down food cause I want to coexist yeah yeah and it's like how do you do that they don't go into detail how they're going to do it yeah but it makes people feel good because they have no intention to doing that yeah that's the other thing yeah they don't care about you like not one bit right it's that's the truth
Starting point is 01:05:48 you know when I hear of K because I used to be liberal when I hear RFK talk, that reminds me why I used to vote for those people when I hear I'm told. Well, I was raised. My parents were Democrat. They're moderate Democrats back in the day, and I still, like, agree with the way I was raised. It was back in the day, it was you work for what you earn. And then when you earn things and you start making money, then you should help other people out. Like, you should always be trying to help those that are, you know, below you and trying to raise them up. But not for free, right? You don't just give them shit for free. you make enough money that you've worked for and you want to help people you should do it. And I still believe that, you know, to this day.
Starting point is 01:06:27 And I think that's more on the Republican side now. Right. And that's, and I like RFK. Yeah. I think he's, you know, he's, obviously he's intelligent and. Common sense. Yeah. And he speaks the truth too.
Starting point is 01:06:39 You know, he's, I like the fact that he's all about make America healthy again. And he's all about, you know, anti-pharmaceutical. It's, we need that because, I mean, that's one of the biggest problems in this country, too, is we're killing ourselves. Yeah. I really enjoy it when he went up on stage with Trump. I said, this is why I used to vote for Democrats. Yeah. And then you got Tulsi Gabbard joining in.
Starting point is 01:06:59 And what's crazy. So tell me how nuts this is that Bush, Dick Cheney, and them are on Kamala's side now. I'm like, right. These are the people that you guys were calling the devil, like 10, 15 years ago. I just know. I just know the government had been able to spy on us now. Yeah. And Dick Cheney is a piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Like, I mean, you know, and I was, you know, fooled by him for sure. when we kicked off the war. I'll admit that and I was duped just like everybody else. Those dudes was Democrat. Yeah. Rhinos. For the Democrat party. Rhinos.
Starting point is 01:07:30 I voted for that one dude. What's his name? Mitt Romney? I voted for him. That's how bad I hate Obama. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:37 If you didn't have Obama, you had to vote for Mitt Romney. It's fucking crazy, right? Yeah, you're talking about the lesser of two evils now. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah, man. I just look, I don't even care. like right or left I'm like what is your character man like who are you as a person do are you
Starting point is 01:07:56 are you and I if you are about something that I'm not about and you're like hey this is what I want but you stand by that I can respect you for that like if you make about argument you're like dude this is why I believe in this and I'm not going to switch sides this is where I stand I have I respect because you have a backbone and yeah it's the people that flip-flop like oh now I'm going to be on this side it's you know the kite flyers whatever way the wind's blowing is where I'm going to go exactly And you have, like, I get out rhinos, you know, like Dan Crenshaw is one of them. He's, you know, he's a piece of shit. Yeah, he's, he's, he's disappointed me.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Yeah, I mean, he's, he's one of the worst. Yeah. Yeah. So, some people think we're not going to even have an election. There's some rumors that we're not going to have election. They're going to do something to keep us from having an election. Do you think there's any proof or behind that? I think they do that, though.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Yeah, I don't know. Because Trump going to win. That's why. Well, they throw Trump in prison or they, or they, try and kill him again. Yeah. I think that's what they're alluding to. They're going to throw him in prison.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Yeah. But even then, we can still vote for him while he's in prison. And I think they're, it's just going to help him if they try, they do that. People are going to get behind him more and more. But what's going to be scary is if they do do that and Kamala gets in. Yeah. And it's, it's like you've just. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Yeah. I think they're just playing with fire. You can push people, but so much, you know? Yeah, it's scary, you know. Hey, I want to ask you something about what do you think what's going on in Israel? What's your take on what's going on? Oh, my gosh. That's a mess.
Starting point is 01:09:30 It is a mess, man. Like, I'm Republican, and I always was like, I love the Jews. But now I'm like, I'll open my eyes up. Yeah. It's not that easy. It's a complicated issue. Well, because it involves humans. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:46 That's why. And humans are. complicated people and it doesn't matter what Jewish Christian whatever I mean there's there's good and bad in every every sect but you know I I I stand with Israel like not not like I'm like I'm like hey man if they want to defend themselves if they want to like do their thing let them do their thing man like that conflict is going on for so long yeah and you know and I'm a Christian so I you know it's in the Bible like Israel is a is a holy place and it's one of those places like just think
Starting point is 01:10:17 if Israel just... Do you think those people are still holy, though? The Jewish people today? Because they came from, um, they're like European because of World War II or... They start refugees there, right? Yeah, I'm sure they do. Um, but I know like, that's where, you know, the purebred Jewish culture is, is from, you know?
Starting point is 01:10:40 Right. From, yeah, from that part of the world. Yeah. Um, but I mean, at the end of the day, I'm like, it's... Do you think it ever be a two-party solution to that area? Because that's what's going to fix it. A two-party solution. Letting the Palestinians have their own.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Yeah, just courting off, this is for the palatid. This is for Jewish faith. Make it too. Because I don't think, at this point, I don't think multiple religions could coexist in that area unless they have. Yeah, I guess a set of rules. But then they can go ahead and apply those rules. But then one once attacks the other again when, like, Hamas decides to throw some rockets into Israel, And it's like Israel's going to respond and be like, dude, fuck you.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Like, okay. And that's where I don't think people understand too is, I mean, you know, people are like, oh, they're killing all these innocent people there and bomb. And I'm like, well, that's war. And the fact that Americans are like, our government is criticizing them like for what they're doing. It's like, dude, what do you think we just did for the past 20 years? Do you think we were so precise and everything we did in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Starting point is 01:11:42 We killed tons of civilians over there by dropping bombs and everything. So we have no leg to stand on. to tell anybody how they should fight a war morally. Yeah, they learned from us, right? Yeah, and that's why Netanyan is like, shut up. Like, I'm going to do what I want. If you only knew what the American soldiers were doing.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Yeah. Yeah. That's just horrible, man. It is. It's not a good situation. War never is. But there's no, there's no simple solution. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:10 And that's the problem. It's not even fixable, huh? I don't know, man. I mean, I think it's, you know, they have those treaties and whatever. like, hey, ceasefires, but those only last so long. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know what the solution is, honestly. I think we're pretty much fucked.
Starting point is 01:12:26 We're good over here. Yeah. I'm talking about them. Yeah. I think they're I mean, I think it'll Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that is, I mean, but. I don't even touch that. We shouldn't be sending troops there. No. Just like we shouldn't be sending troops to Ukraine. Like, that's not our... How do you feel
Starting point is 01:12:43 about us arm in Ukraine? I think it's wrong. I think it's just part of the whole military industrial complex. Yeah. You know, I think that, and it's the thing, yeah, we're funding them, but we're, we're collecting all the money. Like, we're not just like giving them what we're doing is like, hey, yeah, we'll give you these weapons. You're going to, you know, so, but then we also, people are like, why are we giving them billions of dollars? So when we give them those weapons, they're buying those weapons from us and it's coming right right back to the military industrial complex. It's all one big money making scheme. There's nothing.
Starting point is 01:13:17 righteous about what we're doing. We're not doing it for righteous reasons. You think that's what's feeding Israel, too, the military industrial complex? Anywhere there's a war, the military industrial complex is getting fed. Yeah. So there's a conflict of answer for them to solve anything. Yeah. Why do you think we left all that shit in Afghanistan?
Starting point is 01:13:33 You think, like, because everyone's like, why did we do that? It's job assurance for later on. It's like, we'll come back here. Jesus Christ. That's crazy. Yeah. That's why, I mean, that's what I think. There's no other reason why we left all that shit there.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Yeah. I was like, I knew who's going to pull out, but don't she's supposed to bring the equipment with you? I was like, holy. You would think, you know, or pull out in a place that has the high ground and you can have the advantage. We didn't do that either. Yeah. So, again, it all starts at the top. Weak leadership, right?
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Starting point is 01:15:17 back in 92 to 96. I mean, they would still put their hands on you. Yeah, I was in a... I got slapped a couple of times. Yeah, same. I fucking deserved it, but... I slapped shit out of me. A couple times.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Yeah. One time I couldn't hold my piss long enough. You wouldn't let me go to the bathroom, man. I've been holding that shit for two hours, pounding canteens. Yeah. Right? And he's like, you're going to build discipline,
Starting point is 01:15:42 recruit hogs? I said, fuck it! Dude, I took a piss in the squad, man. Dude, I was pissing for like 10 minutes. It wouldn't stop. When I was done, it was like I was standing in a fucking lake up to my fucking knees. That's how much I pissed in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:00 You came over and smacked you? They smacked the shit out of them. That's how I used to be back in the day, yeah. Yeah, but it was, it was like psychological warfare when it was in boot camp. I mean, I've seen other recruits through that, too. It's like, I'm like. It made you tougher, man. Yeah, bitch.
Starting point is 01:16:16 It fucked me up. really but uh does your son uh does he have any like no they he said uh when he was going through because i was asking him that i'm like oh dude how was it and he's like well you know they he's like they beat the shit out of you like as far as like PT and all that but he's like all the general instructors are like you guys are lucky mothers of america have had had a say or else we fuck you up you don't know so it's but i could say this like the marine court is the one branch man that still got it that refuses to like lower its standards i think um at a of all the other branches.
Starting point is 01:16:48 When I was in the Marine Corps, Mattista, if you found out if you was gay, they would kick you out. Really? Yes. Oh, dude, when I was in boot camp, I had this recruit, his name was Jackson.
Starting point is 01:16:57 He was gay as a $3 a bill. Soon as he talked, he sounded like Spongeball. Right? And from morning to dusk, the drug of his ass. But I tell you like this, this dude, he ran three miles.
Starting point is 01:17:14 It was crazy. Like, he could be in Olympics. Yeah. Right? And he did like 80 dead hang pull-ups. He did like 200 sit-ups in like a minute. Dude was a-d dude was super gay or something, right? And they was trying to crack him so hard, but they couldn't get him to crack.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Jackson messed up, though. They found him at night with the fire watch banging him, banging him. And he kicked him out. So there's two gay dudes in there then? Well, that'll do it, man. I knew Jackson was gay. I don't know about that to do it. He must have forced him.
Starting point is 01:17:45 All those pull-ups came in handy They kicked them both out Well, yeah, that, I mean It was don't ask, don't tell them But if they found out, they was kicking people out I mean, when I went through it was Yeah, same thing, don't ask, don't tell You knew who was gay, like, especially in the Navy
Starting point is 01:18:01 You're like, yeah, and I went to medical school So there's a lot of fruities there, you know Yeah, right And I didn't care, you're like, yeah, right You could tell The dude's gay, I can tell But I'm not going to go up and be like, hey, bro, you're gay, right? It was just as long as he can do the job
Starting point is 01:18:18 Right, yeah Right Keeping that shit, you know Whatever you do behind closed doors You can go ahead and do it man Yeah The one thing I don't get Like I don't give a shit of who you sleep with
Starting point is 01:18:28 I don't care if you get I do not care But the one thing I can't get over Is like they let people join And they're getting like the The surgeries and stuff out Oh yeah Chopin off when I was locked up
Starting point is 01:18:41 That was going on big time In that prison Really? Yeah so I went one time I was like hey I need uh can I get some melatonin like because I can't you're sleeping on a metal freaking oh wow you know prison bed and my back was oh you know jacked up a little bit and I was like I can't sleep I was like they're like no we can't you can't you know how to have melatonin I'm like and this is like a line I mean you know with other prisoners talking to the doctor
Starting point is 01:19:05 or whatever or the nurse that dude behind me was getting a sex change like going through he's getting all of the hormones and so he can came up and they're like oh yeah here you go like i can't get melatonin but this dude can get all the hormones to get a sex change all he wants and that was going on it's dude it's an agenda that's been pushed into the military i mean it's the whole woke yes do you think they're weeding out like all the uh the uh conservative uh right wing soldiers from the military it would seem like they were um just because if you are conservative or republican and you're not allowed to voice that like you better not voice it I mean, when Trump was president, there were dudes getting NJP for flying Trump flags during training.
Starting point is 01:19:49 They're like, you can't support your president. But if it's Biden or Kamala, yeah. So, go ahead. Yeah. So, I mean, it seems like it. But at the same time, I don't, you know, you never know. You're like, is this, you know. It's like because most of the military is made up of conservative.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's almost like if they, they don't see what's happening. Like if you kill people's patriotism for a country, people that's the main reason why you join the military. So if you kill that patriotism, that reason why people like to join is like, that goes out military. Well, there's nothing inspiring.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Right. Why would you join? Why would you want to go fight for a country that's, you know, try to get your president? They, fuck. Well, and that's the, that's the, that's the, that's, I know you're getting that, but that's the problem. It's like the younger generation now, like my kids, they're seeing everything at the palm of their hand. And they're paying more attention than you actually know. And so, yeah, like when kids are seeing how our leadership and what they're doing this agenda,
Starting point is 01:20:57 they're like, I'm not joining that crap, you know, because there's nothing inspiring about it. It's like, especially when there's no standards either. They keep lowering standards. It's like, oh, you're overweight, got blue hair and this and that. Don't worry. We'll accept you. And it's like, well, then why would I join? It used to be like I want to join the military to make something better of myself.
Starting point is 01:21:16 There was a standard that I have to meet to get in there. Right, right. So that's what I want to do. Now it's like, we'll accept anybody. So especially for young men, it's like, well, then why? What's the point of doing that? If you're letting this person in, like that weighs 300 pounds and can't do shit, then why am I joining? They almost didn't let us join because I had a back condition.
Starting point is 01:21:39 I had a mild deformity in my back. I forget what it's called. Spatneed for the whole. A mile. Real mile, though. Real mild, but they wasn't going to let me in. Like, they wouldn't let you in if you didn't have 20-20 vision, if you had flat feet. My feet were kind of, our feet were kind of fucked, too.
Starting point is 01:21:52 It's still like that in the Marine Corps. Yeah. Yeah, because my son, when I took him down the recruiting, they were super anal about, like, looking to his medical record. Yeah. I think he had, like, some dental problem 10 years ago, and they were like, we have to look up this, like, what is this? Yeah, so, I mean. So, the Marines are still tough to have in the Lord. with disdance. Yeah, and the Marine Corps, and this is also a thing I love about the Marines. So my son went there, and so I was like, hey, man, you do the talk and I'm just going to make sure, you know, they don't try and screw you in some way. I'll step in, but I was like, you're a grown man. I'm like, you tell him what you want. So he's like, you know, I'm talking to me. He's like, well, is there a bonus. Because the Army's giving these bonuses and the dude look up. He's like, we're not going to pay you to become a Marine. He's like, that's a privilege. And it's like, look back down. I'm like, there it is, dude. I'm like, that is the standard right there. Yeah. Like, everyone, other branch is like, oh, we'll pay.
Starting point is 01:22:42 pay you to come in, this and that. No, you should want to join because you're inspired to be a better man, you know, or a better woman. Right, right. I think a lot of that is missing nowadays, for sure. So pretty much the Army letting in. Oh, bro, Army's freaking, yeah, tainted with all sorts of weirdos. Dude, I was looking at some videos of the Army and how they march.
Starting point is 01:23:03 I was like, that was us the first day we got that. Yeah. It looked horrible. You think that's bad. You should see the SEAL teams march. that's a yeah oh yeah there's no there's no like discipline there's anything like that yeah yeah it's funny man yeah trying to watch much team guys get in formation and right do the whole dress right dress they don't you know we don't do that that much or you don't do that shit y'all just kill people yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly
Starting point is 01:23:29 I mean but me coming from a marine court background I knew I was like yeah you know this is yeah yeah yeah um now I want to ask you this real quick um like you saw a lot of death on your deployments did that change you at all Yeah, yeah, for sure. Is it still haunt you today? It never haunted me. It doesn't, I never had any issues with it. I knew what I signed up for, and it just desensitizes you. You get very desensitized over time.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Your lack of empathy goes away for a lot of things. You turned into a fucking sociopath. Yeah, like not, you know, a little bit. Like, you, but you don't realize it as you're going through. Like, I think I noticed, I was like, oh, something's wrong with me is when my wife's mother drowned. It was like my last deployment or before I left my last deployment. And, you know, we got the call and obviously it's very devastating. And I was like, you know, I went to right away like, hey, we're going to fly you out there.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Boom, boom, boom. But I had no like emotion. It was like, yep, this happened. This is, you know, whatever you want to do, let's do it. It's naturally blocking it out, huh? Yeah. So you just learn, you build a wall that you're like, hey, you know, I'm not going to let anything bother me. You think that's like what you're supposed to do, you know, tough guy, whatever. Right. But it all comes back at some point, you know, when you get out, you got to deal with a lot of that stuff. And it's not, you know, it is, I don't say haunting. It's just dealing with the emotions that you suppress, you know, pressed down for so long.
Starting point is 01:25:03 Those will end up coming up. Like, I know you've seen a lot of evil people out there. When you came back to the States, when you look at it, you look at it. people can you like see something that there that nobody else can see um but you're around it so much i well yeah i mean you can pick up like nefarious activity like or somebody sort of acting kind of weird a little bit like you're in a grocery store and you're like there's something going on with that dude i don't know about like picking evil like oh that person's evil but yeah you can definitely see if someone's acting sort of shady and you know it's not like you should do something about it's
Starting point is 01:25:38 just like all right check i i can see that person um yeah you can see that person um yeah you can't Yeah. You would notice, but nobody else, everybody else is like totally oblivious. You would, but, I mean, sometimes you're like, dude, is nobody seeing this guy? He's got no pants on, bro. Right. Yeah. The reason why I ask you that we used to work in retail. So we get perverts, people shoplift, and you start to learn how to read people.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Yeah. And it's like, I'm looking at this pervert. He's like, like, in between the rack. And I noticed him from the moment he walks in the door and said, this dude's a perv. can see it in his eyes, his face. Nobody sees it. And he's straight up to just doing what he wants to do, and nobody notices it. It's like, it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Oh, yeah. We, my wife and I will have that sometimes. Yeah. She'll, you know, we'll meet some new people, whatever. And I'm like, some couple that, you know, friends. They definitely swingers. Yeah, or like, you know, I'll be talking to me. And I'll go on the way home.
Starting point is 01:26:32 You know, my wife's like, what do you think? I'm like, yeah, that dude's gay. And she's like, what? I'm like, there's something wrong with him. And she's like, you're always thinking of this of people. and half the time she ends up, I ends up being right. Right. I have, I'm like, I'm like, I don't even say it's from being seal training,
Starting point is 01:26:47 but it's just, I think it's from being a military brat and growing up all over the world. I just like, I'm intuitive about people. Yeah, because, think about it. Hey, this person's a good person. Yeah, think about it. You meet all these people from all walks of life from all over the country. You start to read people. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Yeah. Yeah. And then you can, you know, especially by their actions or by how, you know, how they act or what they say. Yeah. But I think that, yeah, the best way you can judge people is just by the people that they hang around. too and who are their enemies. You know what's weird about gay people? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:14 I don't mean to take it that. But soon it's like a gay guy locks eyes with you, you can like see it. Oh yeah. You notice that shit? Like a gay guy walked by and I look at him and I'm like, damn. It's like...
Starting point is 01:27:24 It's a different kind of stare. He's looking at me as if he's a woman. You could see it. You could feel it. He's glowing. You're a piece of meat. That's what you mean. He's like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:36 I always thought that was weird. Like, man, my gay dog would go off. I remember the first time Oh, gay guy. Try to pick up me, man? Dude, I fucking froze. I could not move. I was petrified, right?
Starting point is 01:27:50 This dude's like talking to him. I was like, man, this dude's kind of weird. He said, hey, man, I beat your hands off. And then I do like that. Yeah, I could palm my basketball, you know. They said, man, he got some big feet. I'm like, where's this going? Yeah, he was eating.
Starting point is 01:28:04 He was going off his checklist. He was like, yep. Yeah. I do. In the middle of, I just froze. I'd stop talking I stopped looking at them You know how women feel now
Starting point is 01:28:13 Yeah exactly It was the weirdest thing ever Because dudes As dudes were just like Yeah It's a different look Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 01:28:23 Yeah Yeah Yeah And you know The gall of this guy I was a security I was a security About this dude
Starting point is 01:28:32 Yeah I was a security guard at time Right He was working One of his toys He was telling him I could be a model Holy shit Oh shit
Starting point is 01:28:39 I said, yeah, I can take up his uniform. I can make something out of that. So bad. It did. I was like, I went back to my, what's that? What's that? Where he was doing to you? He was, um.
Starting point is 01:28:51 He's grooming. He's grooming. I went to my supervisor. Man, I said, man, this dude. He said, well, you can't say anything. Those people are protected. You can't say anything. Right?
Starting point is 01:29:01 I said, well, it was uncomfortable, you know. It's not sexual harassment if they're gay. Yeah. Then it makes you, what you're doing, I hate crime. Yeah. You're automatically a homophobic. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:29:12 And how am I was telling my friend about it. And the dude goes walking by, and he made a complaint about me. The dude that was trying to pick you up? He said I was talking and I was pointing and laughing at him. Which I wasn't. My friend was. I was just telling him. You just nodding like, yep.
Starting point is 01:29:30 He didn't tell him the story. He almost got me fired. That did crazy because you're a homophore. You didn't let him take you back and make you a movie star. Oh, man. You can be living a whole different life right now. Yeah. Hey,
Starting point is 01:29:47 dude, he invited me to his house. It's like, dude, I'm not cool. Talk about this. Hey, what do you think about what's happening at our border?
Starting point is 01:29:59 It's a shit show. Yeah. I mean, hopefully the same thing you're thinking about it. Like, yeah, it's a shit show. And I think we've,
Starting point is 01:30:07 we're already surpassed a point of something's going to happen. You know, We've let enough terrorists into this country over the past four years. That's my biggest word. Yeah. It's going to happen. Again, and then you have to wonder, like, it's not like the government doesn't know this is happening. Right.
Starting point is 01:30:22 And they're just letting it go. So, yeah. It's kind of like they wanted to happen. Weird, almost. But you're like, for what reason, though, right? I mean, obviously for votes. I mean, that's a big thing. But now Kamala's running on.
Starting point is 01:30:36 Now she's going to build a ball. That's crazy. She took a lot. like five of Trump's policy. Yeah, she did. Trump said he was going to sit up a shirt. Oh, yeah. I know.
Starting point is 01:30:48 I was going to call Trump and be like, listen, dude, stop saying what you're going to do. She's just copying everything. But this is crazy. But I look back at old debates between Democrats and Republicans, like Nixon and JFK and it was so different back in those days. It's like nowadays, it's just like we're falling apart. It's a clown show.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Yeah. We've lost all professionalism. Yeah. And so I think our standards as a country have dropped over the past 15 years. And I think this is, we're at a point now, like, it's even seeing them like the debates now. Like, all it is is like a roast fest up there. They're just like, who's the funniest and who can make fun of each other. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:31:28 That's who I'm going to vote for. And then it's like, dude, well, what fucking policies are being talked about? This shit was crazy for Biden and Trump. Oh, my gosh. But did he get out golf truck? Yeah. It was like, is this really? the topic? I did like the one where he, uh, when Trump was like, I don't know what he just said.
Starting point is 01:31:45 I don't think he does either. That was crazy what he said. He set him up for that though. It's like, well, yeah. Yeah. When Trump said, they said, I don't know what he said and he doesn't know he did. And then what's crazy about that when he said that Biden didn't say anything. Yeah. Didn't even catch it. No, because he was in his dementia. I mean, so my dad's going through right now. like he's battling dementia not dementia Alzheimer's
Starting point is 01:32:13 and he you know I can see you know he's progressively getting worse but it's that look same look Biden has it's their like locked like I need to figure out
Starting point is 01:32:22 what the fuck is going on right now I don't know like they can't comprehend anything that's happening and they get into those little phases the worse it gets and then eventually it gets to a point
Starting point is 01:32:31 when they look like that all the time yeah like Biden it was I don't know why they had like a two camera shot one on Trump and one on Biden and he was just sitting now looking at Trump with his gaze and his eyes were like cocked.
Starting point is 01:32:42 He was like, he wasn't blinking or anything. I was like, how the fuck does he do that with his eyes? The deer in the headlights, yeah. I actually feel sorry for him. You know, and that's the thing. It's like, it's probably one of the most worst cases of elderly abuse we've seen. Yeah. And they did it to the president, you know, the leader of the country.
Starting point is 01:33:03 And, you know, I blame his wife is, you want him about evil. Yeah, his wife. That's who's evil. It's like the fact that they let them do this to her husband. like throw this dude on stage. His wife. Pump him full of drugs. Especially his wife.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Yeah. It's just, yeah. And you do, like, as much as I'm like, God, just dude is some moron. I also feel sorry for him, man. It's like, bro, you got thrust into this and you got Alzheimer's, dude. Like, that's horrible. Right up until the point where he stepped down, man, people's like, oh, he's doing a great job. I'm like, yeah, the liberals, the progressives, the man, he just had a bad night.
Starting point is 01:33:35 I was like, man, that's not a bad night. Yeah. And he's, and shit's been. going on for like a couple years. He's had a bad, bad four years. Yeah, and they say we're members of a Coke when we're voting for Trump. Oh, I know. It's all that said, that TDS is real. Yeah. You know, I have relatives like that. I was just with some and I told you, yeah, I told them it was a family get together and I was like, hey, no politics. I was like, let's just enjoy ourselves as a family. Like, don't even bring it up. Right. But, you know, it's funny on that side.
Starting point is 01:34:01 They can't help themselves, man. They got to throw something in there. And it's like, as soon as you say, It's the stupidest thing. It is. It's the dumbest thing. Or like, but as soon as soon as you say Trump, they're like, like, their face. And you can see it, I'm like, bro, it's literally, like, true. Like, you guys have a, like, a syndrome. Yeah. Like, you've been manipulated to a point where you can't even think for yourself. And that's why I mean, like, he was telling me you guys had on some liberal dude,
Starting point is 01:34:28 and, like, talk for three hours. Oh, on the liberal? Yeah. And I'm like. One of the most intellectually dishonest person I ever spoke to. But that's what I mean. It's like, talking to somebody with no logic or reason. And it's like, I'm like, dude, I'll, I'll, I'll,
Starting point is 01:34:40 try. But then as soon as you start spitting illogical crap and I'm like dude, dude, that's conversation's over dude. That guy said what happened to Trump, he brought her on himself. When he got assassinated? Assented suicide? They said, what he said that. He actually said that.
Starting point is 01:34:56 Well, yeah, that dude should be locked up. It's like, well then, well, yeah, it's... He mocked the firefighter that lost his life there. He got shot by a straight bullet. Yeah. He actually went on camera and posted on YouTube. Yeah, he said the farfarer deserved. Did he say that shit in here? I didn't say it here. He said on his side.
Starting point is 01:35:11 I was about to say one of you guys should have reached across and just put on the table. I mean, but that's disgusting, though, man. That is like, you know, the disgusting part of our society. Yeah. They're really, they'll say some nasty things for sure.
Starting point is 01:35:26 Yeah. Yeah, I can honestly say if something happened to Joe Biden, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be happy over it. No, I'm not going to cheer over somebody losing their life. Yeah. You know. Assassinated, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:34 Yeah. Why would she even? I just think. If that happened on the left or the right, that would start. like a civil war in this country at this point because we're so divided. Whether it's Trump getting assassinated or if it was Biden getting assassinated. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:47 And that's what I mean. Nobody wants to see that. You know, you can see what happened there. I'm sure you can wash it over and over. He's a lucky man. He's a act of God that he turned his head at that moment because I'm like, if he had been killed, our country would be in disarray right. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Oh, yeah. And that's- It'll be, this country be in trouble right now. Yeah. Yeah. Especially where I live, like, in the south. Yeah. It's, yeah. People are already on edge, like, waiting for something to happen.
Starting point is 01:36:10 Dude, seriously, if Trump was a assassin, I think I'd pick myself white. My name would be freaking John Keith Holmes. I swear to God, dude. Yeah. I get my truck and my flag. I'll be flying a rubber flag. I'll be in undercover. You take it too far.
Starting point is 01:36:29 Take it. Well, you had the general lead. That's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but people don't know how close we came to like a Civil War when that happened. I know. Yeah. Like the left, they're so oblivious to that.
Starting point is 01:36:42 They are. Well, they, and they think, like, January 6th was something like, you know, and you're like, they call it an insurrection. Yeah. If that was an insurrection, people, hundreds of people would have died. Stand by. Yeah. You think that was an insurrection.
Starting point is 01:36:53 If something happened to Trump, then it would have been bad. Yeah. And those were a bunch of gun nuts on January 6th. There was no guns there. No. They just wanted to protest what was going on. Yeah. Yeah, I mean.
Starting point is 01:37:05 It got out of hand, but it was an answer. It got out of hand on both sides. Yeah. They had the feds in there fucking amping it up. Yeah. So, I mean, it was, yeah, both sides were involved for sure. But they, you know, they're trying to make something out of it. They tried to make something out of that.
Starting point is 01:37:21 Yeah, they still talk about January 6th, but the media doesn't talk about what happened in the assassination attempt. And the crazy thing about when Tucker talked about it, he painted a different side. One of these guys, the shaman, they actually put him in jail for how many years? He was going to be in there for five years. Five years. And they actually escorted him into the. Yeah, there's a video of it. Yeah, he actually prayed, and they threw him in jail for that.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Yeah. They're still arresting people for that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just know somebody like from a third connection that they just raided their house and took them to jail. Same thing for people. Because they were there. Because they were there.
Starting point is 01:37:59 Yeah, not that they did anything. They were just there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:05 Yeah. They'll abuse that power all day long. Right. Which is why we started the Pipe-Hitter Foundation. Well, tell us about that. So pretty much after we went through what we went through, which is what's going on is normal now. Right.
Starting point is 01:38:24 We pretty much, we came out of there. So a lot of the guys that I met in prison were young kids, like 19, 20, 21, just enlisted. And then they made a simple mistake of like, you know, maybe they went smoke some weed, popped on a piss test, or showed up late to formation. or whatever, drunk in public. But the problem is, in the military, they want to keep their prosecution rates up.
Starting point is 01:38:47 And so when these kids make these small mistakes, the prosecutors will make them into even larger. So, like, give you an example. There was a kid that was drunk in public at San Diego Airport, got arrested for it. NCIS comes. And they take them away. They go and raid, not raid, but they go and, like, get all the stuff on the ship, start going through all of his computers. and see that he Googled Russia at one point. And then they were like, well, we think you're selling classified information to Russia.
Starting point is 01:39:17 So we're charging you with espionage, which is life also. This is just from being drunk in public. They try to make these cases out of nothing. And he's just one example. There's a lot more. So I was telling my wife all about this while I was locked up and like, this place is nuts. Like I'm seeing mine a curtain. I didn't know existed.
Starting point is 01:39:33 So we decided we've got to do something about it, especially because we made it through it, became victorious, which was a lot, you know, it took a lot of work. So we decided to start the Pipe-Hitter Foundation. And at first we were like, hey, we're just going to, you know, support active duty in the military. But then we saw what was going on with the law enforcement, especially after the George Floyd stuff. I mean, they were just being targeted again. So we added law enforcement and first responders. So what we do is if they're being unjustly accused for doing their job, then we step in.
Starting point is 01:40:07 we provide the aid for their legal defense. So we'll raise money for the legal defense. We also give them emergency relief funds during that time because it is a stressful time. And people have no idea just how, like, it can drive a family apart. It's expensive, too. It's expensive. And then we advocate for them as well. So we use the same route that my brother and wife did.
Starting point is 01:40:31 We'll go, you know, talk to the right people. I'll go on certain platforms that will actually tell the truth. and we will just help those individuals that way. So we've been doing it now since 2020, I think. And so, yeah, it's been, unfortunately, it's, you know, it's been busy. We've helped a lot of law enforcement, but now we're actually helping a lot of military again as well. So, I mean, and then the big thing we want is, like, to get change in the UCMJ, get some stuff reformed because it's a broken system.
Starting point is 01:41:02 It's archaic. So, I mean, it's been. going good. You know, we got a couple cases right now. We got one guy. There was a student that died in seal training two years ago, Nurn Hell Week. He passed Hell Week and then ended up collapsing afterwards and died. So they did an investigation and turns out, well, this kid was taking steroids before and he wasn't the only one. I guess there was other kids in the class that were. and I think yeah he was taking steroids he had a bunch of other crap in his car that they found but the mom of this kid went like high and right and just wanted to like she wanted to shut down buds
Starting point is 01:41:47 she was like oh they're torturing people there and my son died she had some connections in you know politics I think she knew some congressman and so what the Navy did instead of telling this mother, like, listen, you know, your son was taking steroids. This is probably, they did an autopsy, an enlarged heart, all those other stuff. Oh, wow. They hit all of that. And they're like, we're going to go ahead and hang out the CO, who's the CEO of Buds to dry, and then also go out the medical officer who was in charge of examining the Hellweek students as they went through Hellweek.
Starting point is 01:42:25 So we are supporting the medical officer right now. He is in jeopardy of losing his medical license. which me, and this guy's been around forever. He was there when I was in the steel teams. And so he's in jeopardy losing his medical license. So it means like he has nothing if he gets out. So right now we're getting the truth out about what's going on. And hopefully, you know, the more and more people that get on board and start pressuring the Navy to do the right thing, they will and they will drop these charges.
Starting point is 01:42:54 And also for the CO2, Brad Geary, they're going after him as well. Wow. Yeah. So she just wants somebody to pay. Yeah, I mean, she's a grieving mother and she's trying to, you know, and that's, it sucks. I can't imagine how that feels, but at the same time, it's like, hey, you can't just hang two good men out to dry just because your son died. It's not their fault, you know, right. Even if the kid wasn't taking steroids and just happened to collapse, it's like that's, it's possible that can happen.
Starting point is 01:43:25 I mean, no weak is they push you to your limits. Yeah, when I was in boot camp, Rinkgo boot camp, there's people that died at heart attack. strokes. It burns out and it gets hot. I think a couple people dropped a heat strokes and he kicked them out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:39 Yeah. So, I mean, that's, I mean, those are the battles that we get involved in because it's like this isn't right. Yeah. And all it is is just putting pressure, trying to put pressure on the Navy
Starting point is 01:43:48 to get them to do the right thing, which you shouldn't have to do. Right. Like, that goes back again to weak leadership. Yeah. Yeah. What else are you working on right now? So my wife and I founded the nonprofit.
Starting point is 01:43:59 it. So we both work together on that. And then I pretty much run my own business, Gallagher Holdings. I teach shooting where I'm at. So I have a range right near where I'm at. So I'll teach basic to advanced shooting classes to civilians, but I also do DOD and law enforcement as well. So I'll help instruct there. I go out and then consult with law enforcement on a lot of active shooter stuff. I've I've been going out lately with some, the law enforcement that actually do protect the schools. I think they're called like the Guardians or Angels or something. And that's in Texas.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Do they have that here where there has to be an armed cop at every school? I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think so. Okay. Well, in Texas they do and Florida they do as well. So what I'll do is gather like a bunch of them up that work in the same community and sort of go over how to, you know, tactfully like,
Starting point is 01:44:59 clear school and then go over like some of the right and wrong things to do, how to mitigate risk to themselves, and just to clear properly because what I've seen, you know, they have about a week of training and it's crazy. You got used it at training. It's garbage the way that they're trained. I mean, and I get it. They don't have a lot of time to put into these individuals. So that's where, you know, I'll step in and try and help out that way.
Starting point is 01:45:25 So, yeah, I've been doing a lot of that. And then also, you know, I run a podcast where I'm out with my buddy, shoot me straight. Is it on YouTube? Yeah, it's on every platform. Do that. That's more great name. Shoot me straight. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:39 Yeah. It's, yeah, we had no agenda. We just have people come in, tell their stories. A lot of it is like just trying to, everybody has a story, you know, and I just try and get out, like, a positive aspect of it. Like, hey, how did you overcome some adversity in your life? So hopefully listeners can get something out of that. My wife and I also started a series once a month on that same podcast. podcast. It's a truth about transition, but it's about transitioning out of the military.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Oh, okay. I have to always have to put that in there. But yeah, like, you know, just the struggles that can happen if, you know, after serving for so long. And it's not just for military, like any service industry, like law enforcement first responders. I think a lot of them struggle after they have to leave that position. So we talk about what we dealt with and things that helped out. And we'll also have on people that, you know, have struggled through it as well and have become successful afterwards. I ain't they making a movie, a TV, a show, or a movie
Starting point is 01:46:33 about you, about your life? Nothing, I don't know. They did, Apple did a documentary already. Oh, okay. On the whole thing. Yeah, that's called the line. Yeah. The line? It's on Apple? Yep, Apple Plus. It's entertaining. Yeah. Was it objective? I'll say this, like,
Starting point is 01:46:50 for as liberal as they are, they get a good job. It's still like they, it's definitely more swaying. towards I'm an asshole, you know, but I thought. Which you have to be. Like, it's, well, it's more like, so what they, when they came to us, they were like, hey, we want to make this documentary about the whole thing. And we're like, at first we were like, hell no.
Starting point is 01:47:12 I'm not, you know, we're not inviting you into this, you know, into our house because we already know, like, how you look at us, right? Right. But eventually, you know, I had talked to my lawyer and I was like, what do you think? And he's like, well, he's like, give them, let's give them everything. Like we gave them all the documents all like here's all the proof of that I'm innocent and here's all the corrupt stuff that they pulled. So we gave them that and we're like, hey, we just ask you to do your due diligence and actually look at this. So I think they did, but of course it's Apple.
Starting point is 01:47:42 So they made it like a who done it. You know, like did he really do this? Did he not? Wow. And then they went and interviewed some random Iraqi at the end that was supposed to be the fucking kid's dad. Right, right. And, like, you know, you're supposed to be heartfelt for this poor ISIS fighter, you know. Right.
Starting point is 01:48:01 That was thrust into ISIS and it wasn't his fault. It's, you know, but I think it's actually entertaining. They did a good job. And they actually, I mean, what I liked about it the most is they did a whole segment on my wife. And, bro, it was badass just seeing like, yeah. Yeah, they had the secretary of the Navy got fired over my whole thing. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:20 And they interviewed him. And on there, I mean, it's my favorite part. is when he's like going up against Andrew Gallagher was like going up against Mike Tyson with one hand tied behind your back she freaking like yeah so it's said that huh yeah and I'm like that's all it matters to me you know I was like you can shit
Starting point is 01:48:36 on me all you want I'm like but yeah yeah yeah it was good yeah we'll see but I mean I think a movie would be cool um I mean there's I don't you know I gave you guys this book um like and the cool thing about this book is when you're reading through it because they pulled so much corrupt and deceitful shit that you
Starting point is 01:48:54 Like when I was writing it, I'm like, dude, nobody's going to believe this. So what I did is I put QR codes in the book. So as you're reading it and you're like, no way. You can click on that QR code. And it has all the interviews. It has the trial audio. It has everything in there. Like we didn't hide anything.
Starting point is 01:49:09 So I'm like, there it is. Like make the decision for yourself. But I think it actually read your book and come to your own conclusion. Yes. Yeah. For sure. And that's the way I wanted to write it, you know, because only an innocent man would do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:22 Well, you know, the saying it's like, oh, there's two size to every. story and then somewhere the truce in there somewhere i'm like no man like here it is dude like and yeah you here's unedited fucking videos of them lying and also here's all the stuff they said on trial so you now these people that were caught lying did anything happen to them no no no really no no it was the opposite so just like everything else in our society they got instead of being held accountable for lying and being deceitful and they actually got promoted and raised as heroes for stay up. They're like, and it's all the left, you know.
Starting point is 01:49:59 So yeah, most of them, yeah, nothing happened. I think supposedly Joe Warpinski got fired, but I don't believe it. That's what we were told. The secretary of the Navy got relieved. That was actually, it's a pretty badass story. Yeah. So it was, I hadn't gotten out yet. The trial was over, and they were still coming after me.
Starting point is 01:50:18 They were trying to crush me at every angle before I got out because we had defeated them in court. So at one point they were like, oh, we're going to take your trident now. Like you're going to get out, but you're not going to be a seal, right? And then Trump actually tweeted was like, you're not taking his trident, like get back to work. But I was pretty pissed off. And Fox had invited me to come on in the morning. And usually I wouldn't have done it. I'm like, but I was like, yeah, I'm coming on because I was sick of it.
Starting point is 01:50:48 So I flew out there. And my lawyers were like, don't say anything crazy. like don't drop people's names like they can still come after you well i got in there and pete head seth was there and he's like hey i just talked to the big man which was trump he's like he said let it fly everything oh yeah so i was like all right and so i went on there and i was like this person did this this person did this and i actually had proof of the secretary of navy was meddling in my case while i was locked up trying to get people not to support me that's why he got relieved and literally on the flight back he got relieved when i was flying back i got my layover i looked up in the news and
Starting point is 01:51:21 He's gone. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, it was, that is one person, I guess, that was held accountable. But everybody below that, not really. Yeah. You know, if that's, that's also been a theme of this whole administration. There's no accountability. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:36 Right. If Trump's not in office, do you think you have the happy inning, so to speak, that you have? Or no? Not. I don't think so. It's hard to tell, man. You would probably just tick longer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:51 for sure. You know, Trump, when he was in, before I went to trial, there was two other service members that were being charged with some war crime stuff. With taking pictures? It was one of them killed a Green Beret had killed a, I think it was a Taliban dude that was planting IDs. So they're trying to go after him. And then there was an army lieutenant that was charged with killing a Taliban fighter, but he was already in Leavenworth for a while already. And what Trump did is he pardoned both of them. So they actually charged these people for killing terrorists? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:27 Yeah. That is nuts. It happens. They didn't kill them right. Yeah. I mean, you guys had on Eric Prince, right? He told you about the massacre there. And we actually, so through our foundation, those guys got pardoned before Trump got out.
Starting point is 01:52:41 Before Trump left, he pardoned them and got them out. And then we got pretty much set them up, like, paid off all their legal fees because they were in debt. Yeah. So we helped them out. But, I mean, that shit's been going on for a while now. You know, yeah, if they want to target you, and that's what people don't understand. And I don't expect people to understand it because it's almost like until it happens to you, there's like no way they would do that. Yes, they would.
Starting point is 01:53:07 And they, you know, when it does happen, it's like it doesn't matter you being innocent or being guilty. It doesn't matter at that point. It's whatever. They just want the win. Right. And that's all that matters. So. So where can people find you?
Starting point is 01:53:23 So I'm on, I have a website, the eddygalliger.com. Can't stand that I have the, because eddygallagher.com was taken, so I had to throw that in there. But yeah, it's the eddygallagher.com. It has, you know, everything that I'm doing right now, you know, all the training, the consulting. And then I have the, you know, the F-AFO shirts and hats and everything. And then we also have for our foundation, the PipeHitter Foundation.org. you can go on there. You can see everybody that we're supporting.
Starting point is 01:53:51 We have everybody that we're supporting right now in their story and why we're supporting them. So you can donate to those people if you want, or you can just donate to Pipe Hitter in general. And that money will go to where it's supposed to go. We don't take anything. Actually, I'll go ahead and plug this too. We're actually going to throw our first fundraiser here, October 12th out in Florida, at Defuniac Springs, the range I work at. We're going to have a bunch of my teammates are going to come and help me instruct.
Starting point is 01:54:21 We're going to have an old day of shooting, CQC, make it real fun, and then have an awesome dinner that night. We had guest speaker, Bernie Carrick. You guys know who he is? I think so. Yeah, he was a police commissioner in New York during 9-11. Oh, yeah, yeah. Freaking Super Patriot, just awesome guy.
Starting point is 01:54:36 So he'll be a guest speaker there. But that is going to be our first fundraiser, really. We haven't, everything we've done to this point has been reactionary. So, I mean, you know, it does, it does, you know, work, but it's, we definitely need to get some funds in there so we can help these individuals out that we support right away instead of just doing a reactionary thing. We put all your links in the bottom of these people. I appreciate that, yeah. So, yeah, that's what I got going on on Instagram, just Eddie, Eddie underscore Gallagher on Instagram. I'm on there, so.
Starting point is 01:55:06 Okay. Hey, Eddie, it's been a pleasure. Dude, it was awesome being here, man. Yeah. Love what you guys are doing. Seriously. No, I think this has been a great conversation. Yeah, you're a real good dude, I can tell you.
Starting point is 01:55:17 You're a real good dude. Same, man. Likewise, dude. Yeah, it's been real fun here, man. I appreciate you guys having me down here in Vegas. Yeah. Yeah.

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