Hodgetwins Podcast - War Hero or War Criminal? | Twins Pod - Episode 31 - Eddie Gallagher
Episode Date: September 20, 2024Eddie Gallagher is a highly decorated Navy SEAL and American Patriot. After taking a picture with a dead ISIS soldier, Eddie's name was smeared in the media, and he was charged with war crimes. Eddie ...is a very down-to-earth and normal dude, he tells his unbelievable story of how the American justice system was weaponized against him. Get your Twins merch and have a chance to win The Iconic General Lee! - https://officialhodgetwins.com/ Get Optimal Human, your all in one daily nutritional supplement - https://optimalhuman.com/ Secure your financial future today - https://prepperbar.com/sp/landing-page-copy-3/ American-made, top of the line knives - https://dmoknives.com/ Want to be a guest on the Twins Pod? Contact us at bookings@twinspod.com Download Free Twins Pod Content - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_iNb2RYwHUisypEjkrbZ3nFoBK8k60CO Follow Twins Pod Everywhere - X - https://twitter.com/TheTwinsPod Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thetwinspod/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/twinspod TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@twinspod YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8lCshQmMN0dUc0JmQYDdg Rumble - https://rumble.com/c/TwinsPod Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/79BWPxHPWnijyl4lf8vWVu?si=03960b3a8b6b4f74 Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/twins-pod/id1731232810 03:04 - Eddie's Nickname the “Blade” 05:00 - The Hodgetwins In School 08:33 - Different Cultures Growing Up 16:20 - Amry Medical Care 18:43 - SEAL Training 28:34 - Eddie's Platoon Drama 43:54 - What Was Eddie Charged With? 51:09 - Crazy War Story 59:36 - Weaponizing The Justice System 1:04:18 - Being "Presidential" 1:09:20 - Israel, Ukraine, and The MIC 1:15:11 - Is The Military Woke Now? 1:23:38 - Being Changed By War 1:27:12 - Gay Talk 1:29:51 - The Southern Border 1:33:34 - TDS Is Real 1:37:49 - Americans Are Not Protected 1:43:55 - How To Prevent School Shootings 1:46:29 - Apple Made A Documentary About Him
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Yeah, we got a decorated veteran here, Navy SEAL, Eddie Gallagher.
Yeah, I appreciate you guys having me out.
Yeah, you got a nickname The Blade.
How'd you get that?
You cut somebody?
Let's keep some things a secret on here.
What is it like going through seal train?
I loved it.
I mean, I fought for four years when I was in the Marine Corps to get there.
I kept putting in orders trying to get there and kept getting denied.
So by the time I got there, I was just, you know, I was thankful to be there.
We had this dude.
You tried to be in Navy Sill and he didn't work.
He said they dropped him off in a helicopter in underwear with a ramble knife out in the middle of the jungle.
He's full of shit.
You'll meet a lot of characters that say they went and they'll make up some outrageous.
Like I heard they make you have a puppy and, you know, kill it at the end.
He said he had to sleep in a tree or the lines would have got him.
Yeah, none of that shit is true.
What were you actually charged with?
It was premeditated murder of who?
Isis.
He's supposed to kill him
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't make this shit up
So it was pre-meditated murder of ISIS
I was facing life without parole
They would not let me see my lawyers
That was like a privilege
So they would make rules up
For stuff that I was doing
If I was doing push-ups in my cell
They'd be like, hey, no one's allowed to do push-ups
And they're selling anymore
No working out
Oh yeah
The prisoners started calling it the Eddie rules
They're like, oh, Eddie must have been doing
You know, because that's how bad
They were targeting me in there
They wanted me to snap
I'm not, I wasn't able to, like, get medical treatment.
One time I was like, hey, can I get some melatonin?
They were like, no, you're not to have melatonin.
The dude behind me was getting a sex change.
He's getting all of the hormones.
So he came up and they're like, oh, yeah, here you go.
Like, I can't get melatonin.
Oh, he was cool.
But this dude can get all the hormones to get a sex change all he wants.
And that was going on.
It's, dude, it's an agenda.
That's crazy.
Our own government treating a Navy SEAL like that.
Well, it was our own government treating the President of the United States.
I mean, and that's the thing.
Seeing how this country is being run now and the things that we're seeing, I mean, right in front of us, we're like, yep, this doesn't surprise us one bit.
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Welcome to episode 31.
We've got a decorated veteran hero, Navy SEAL, Eddie Gallagher.
How's it going, brother?
Going good, man.
Glad to be here.
Yeah, I appreciate you guys having me out.
Yeah, you got a nickname The Blade.
How'd you get that?
You cut somebody?
Let's keep some things a secret on here.
I'll say it.
That's from a bar fight a long time ago.
I'll leave it at that.
Oh, okay.
Makes sense then.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, wow.
So what made you join the military?
Well, I mean, my whole family, we got a big, huge military.
legacy of my family. Most of the dude served. My dad was in the Army for 24 years. So I grew up a
military brat. But I really had no intention to join in actually when I was growing up. I think
from being around it, I was like, I want to do something different. Right, right. I think,
you know, high school, I wasn't a good student. I was a trouble maker, you know. Dude, I don't
know how I graduated high school. Yeah. I had to go to school extra year. Same. Same. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he graduated for me. He left me with an asshole he is, right? And I'm up in school for
whole year. Well, I had to go a half a year. And I felt so old. Being a perverer is what you're doing.
Oh, yeah. All that jail thing around you. That's what I like about them high school girls.
Right.
Oh, yeah. I did the same thing. I had to go to night school. And then I had to go to this school. It was
made for girls that got pregnant during high school so they can get their degree. And then they started
sending all the rejects like me out there to like go get their degree. So all these girls,
Easy.
They come with trophies.
Yeah, yeah, right.
So you didn't like school, huh?
No, man, it wasn't for me, you know?
I mean, if I applied myself, like, I wasn't, I wasn't dumb by any means, but I just did not care.
I was like, I don't care about any of this.
I wanted to have fun.
I partied, you know, partied, played some sports, but.
Yeah, I can tell you, very intelligent, but the classes me and my brother said,
we would be up in class and some dudes.
couldn't breathe.
I was like, what?
But we grew up in
Mortonsville, Virginia,
and DeGiswarnsville,
we wanted to go to school
so we could play basketball.
Right?
And we was up in class,
and they switched us
from the regular class
because we was about to drop out.
We couldn't focus.
I don't know what it was.
I guess because we're black.
Is that a thing?
That's probably what it was, right?
But so they wanted to stay in school
to play basketball,
so we were in these
I guess the slow classes.
Yeah, the LD classes.
I've been able to the teacher told
and said, man, y'all are too smart.
I'm going to put you in regular classes.
I said, listen, here, white, man.
If you put me ready to classes,
I'm dropping out of school.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But there's parts of classes
where the people
had to read.
It was like some shit
we was doing in fifth grade, you know?
Read about Christopher.
Yeah, Kevin, now you read.
Now, Jason, you read.
It was that kind of shit.
But these guys wasn't stupid.
They just didn't apply itself.
But these people couldn't breathe.
I would be up in class laugh.
And I was like, dude, you're white.
You can't fucking read.
Like, come on, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we had some, man, we had some characters in that class.
Oh, yeah.
Same.
I was, you know, I think it was like we had the same trajectory at high school.
Right.
Yeah.
I was in all like the, you know, they separate people in high school.
Like, yeah, we think you're going to be good in this class.
Right.
You'll be all right.
Like, you know, then you'll, you know, you got the middle people who are normal.
Then you got the smart people.
they put them in the elevated classes.
Right.
I was with y'all in the blow.
Right.
Again, it was because, yeah, I was like,
I don't give it shit.
Yeah.
Yeah, I wasn't interested at all.
No.
He used to be on a roll.
I think I should was some D-I shit.
Yeah.
Well, just white lady, Ken.
I think it was what in fifth grade?
I think so.
Yeah, yeah.
Right, and she came to,
and she went to talk to my parents
and said, Keepa's doing really well in classes.
Is this in the lower classes?
Yeah, well, was it like fifth grade.
This is unheard of, right?
For a black kid.
We're going to put him next year.
We're going to put him in the honor roll classes.
Oh, I remember that.
Did you remember that?
She came to the house, yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
And I remember the look on her face when he came to the house.
Man, this is a shithole.
I remember that.
Yeah, but I used to apply my, well, I would focus better than Kevin.
I was actually like getting B's and A's and he was getting like D's and F.
A Dity case.
Man, why you keep doing all this school shit?
So I saw him do what the fuck he was doing.
So he's a good influence.
Right.
It was a great influence.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, but anyway, you were saying you were in school.
Oh, yeah.
So, yeah, barely made it out of high school.
And then my parents were, like, real big on, you know, back, I'm sure most parents back then were like, oh, you don't get a college degree.
You're not going to be shit.
Right, yeah, yeah.
And so they.
I don't have that problem.
I was black.
Hey, man, what you just stopped?
Like, you did it get in the NBA or NFL?
You're good with your hands.
That's what you, that's all you get at.
No, go ahead.
I'm sorry.
Good job.
Well, yeah, I got tried, like, I tried, like, a half a semester.
college and was like again like this isn't for me i'm not doing it was that community college and
yeah we did that too yeah it was like this is a joke so i got out and i'm just like working odd
jobs for half a year and i was like i was hanging around you know the wrong people too you know i mean
actually they were my good friends but it was just like we i knew i was like we ain't going nowhere man
so i got you know i went to the recruiting office uh right and just was like dude sign me up
like i'm i want to leave yeah that's how we're on the marines yeah yeah all my friends
were going to jail for like selling drugs and stuff.
I was like, get me the fuck out of here.
You join the Marine Corps.
I saw one of my friends at the car wash, washing cars,
and I was like, man, I got to do something.
I worked for the car wash for a bit.
Oh, yeah, man, that's where all the, you know, the druggies work.
Because you got some of you found, like, you were cleaning cars.
You could find shit under people's seats or like that.
Right.
That's going in my pocket.
Man, the shit we did with his kids, man.
Oh, I know.
What'd you grow up at?
So I actually, my dad was in the Army, so he was an officer, so we would move from D.C., go to D.C. for two years, then go to China, two years, come back, D.C., then go to Korea.
So I grew up, like, half my child in Asia, but then we lived in Virginia, Springfield, Virginia.
What was that like, looking at a bunch of Asian kids?
I'm sure you was, like, the only white kid there.
Yeah, well, in China, I went to, like, well, they had, like, an ex-pac.
hat, little community from what I can remember.
But yeah, like we had, you know, Chinese kids in our school along with, like, British and,
you know, every other nationality.
So you didn't feel oppressed by the Chinese feet?
Not by the Koreans, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Koreans, man, they're vicious, dude.
Like, oh, really?
I mean, no, I like being there, but yeah, yeah.
People are always talking about racism and, you know, this group and that group's racist.
I'm like, the Koreans are the most racist.
I have a hundred.
They hate everybody, yeah.
But they're good people.
I ain't not trying to bash on Koreans.
just say my experience being there, yeah, growing up.
I got made fun of for being white, you know, all the time.
But, you know, people make, call people racist, but that's like, like, being human.
Like, you see somebody different.
You're going to treat them differently because.
You're going to make fun of, like, the stuff.
Like, yeah, I've never seen that before.
And then you'll make some.
Like, we all make fun of the fat kid.
We're all made fun of the kid who had, you know, messed up teeth.
It's just a human thing to do as a kid.
But that's back when, you know, you were taught to have thick skin and be like, hey,
You can brush it off and keep moving on.
But now we're at a point where everybody's feelings matter.
When you in Korea was just a kid, you wasn't, you hadn't hit puberty in that, right?
I was in sixth and seventh grade.
Sixth grade.
So you was about to hit puberty.
Man, that's the reason why I went to the military.
I wanted to go to Japan.
I wanted something that long time.
Yeah.
I saw a full motor jacket.
I said, stuff joined in the Marine.
I wanted me an aging chick.
Yeah.
It wasn't up.
Well, my friends going to jail, but I saw that move.
I said, man, this is what we're going to do.
We're going to go to Japan and find ourselves and wives.
I mean, we was like from a small country place, man.
We didn't have shit going for us.
So we thought that was great.
Didn't even go to Okinawa or Japan.
They sent me to fuck California.
Oh, yeah, we're at Pendleton?
Yeah, I was MCRD San Diego, the recruit depro.
Okay, yeah, I lived right down the street from there.
No shit.
Yeah, when I was with the SEAL teams, like that's pretty much where I live for 15 years.
Yeah, I was in Tustin, California.
with the old air wing
before they closed it down.
I was stationed that the whole time.
So you guys were separated.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Did you guys go to boot camp together?
No, they wouldn't let us.
That's what I'm going to ask, yeah.
We wouldn't make it.
We wouldn't make it.
These two troublemakers, yeah.
They said, man,
the drill and strings would have to fill there with us.
Yeah.
So you was in Korea
for a majority of your childhood.
I mean, we was in boot camp.
What?
Oh, it is.
When our platoons crossed?
Our platoons crossed.
And then,
Then the gunnery sergeant, what was this?
Drill Strill Strick.
Drillist.
Yeah.
He was a staff sergeant.
And it's been so long ago.
He said, and he called us both out in front of both opportunities.
And they just fucking just hammered us.
It's like, how did your mom have fucking two of you?
Thank God.
Messed up twice.
Just shitting all over you.
Yeah.
Shitting all over us.
And it was like, dude, I'm surprised I didn't fucking kill myself.
I'm surprised I didn't fucking kill myself.
That's what makes you a Marine, though.
It was horrible.
Marines get treated there.
They get treated like shit all the time, man.
Every guy there before they went home, they at least cried once.
Yeah.
I'd probably cry like...
But it made us tough, though.
Yeah, that's right.
That's the Marine Corps, man.
They keep you all in cages and rattle it.
It was time for war.
There's a big psychological game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I served.
I did five years with the Marines.
I was a corpsman, though.
Yeah.
So you was a medic?
Yep.
What was that training like?
Well, after I went to Navy boot camp in 99.
And then you had to choose a race.
So when I joined the Navy, and dude, I didn't know what I was doing.
Right.
Just get me out of here.
But then, uh, open contract?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
It was like, well, but what I told him, I was like, hey, I want to be a seal.
Like I knew I was like, am I going to do this?
I want to be like a warrior because I watched, you know, all the rambos and everything growing up.
Right.
So in my 18-year-old mind, you know, I'm like, yeah, that's, that's awesome, right?
Yeah, I remember growing up to Rambo.
Yeah.
Yep, and Predator and all the movies.
Yeah.
Dude, I'm telling you.
That guy.
All the Switzerland, Nago.
Rambo.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I told him, I was like,
hey, I want to be a seal.
And he's like, oh, yeah, no problem.
And, you know, contract was done right there.
But he's like, you've got to pick a rate, which is, like, your job in the Navy before you can go be a seal.
So I picked Korman because he said, uh, they're hurting for Korman.
So he's like, if you pick this, you'll, you'll be sure to go to buds.
It actually ended up being the opposite.
I got done boot camp.
You ain't going to be a seal.
They're overmanned in Corman.
Yeah, these recruiters are a bunch of lives.
Oh, they are, man.
He got me, you know.
But so, yeah, you go right from boot camp to core school, which is like where you learn basic first aid.
I mean, it's nothing like, they might have changed it by now, but back in 99, it was like, you come out of there, maybe like a half-ass nurse.
You know, I know how to do some things, but then you get to choose while you're there to like, what do you want to do for a job?
like, do you want to go to the fleet on a ship
or you can go to the Marine Corps because
Marines don't have their own medics?
Like, we supplied them. And so I was
like, you know, I'm going to the Marines. I'm not going to a ship.
I was already disappointed in the Navy. I was like,
dude, the boot camp was a joke. I was like, this is
not what I signed up for. Yeah, walking around
and bail bottom. Yeah, man, I did.
I had, yeah, we were one of the last ones to have
those. I was on a Navy ship to USS Mercy
and it was nothing but dudes. Yeah, right?
Nothing but dudes. I was like,
why would you join a Navy?
like a float in prison.
Because six months out of time, you had,
you had C, right?
Yeah, or longer.
Yeah.
And I remember the atmosphere
because it was a bunch of just dudes, right?
And then all the females,
all the females are officers.
And all the dudes was following the females around like,
like they were preyed.
Yep.
They were just sucking her.
Like they were vultures.
Yeah.
You get them deployment goggles, you know.
Yeah.
Yep, they start looking better and better each day.
Right.
Especially if there's only one or two females.
Yeah, I'm sure.
That's the thing.
There were dogs.
Yeah.
That's what Trump would call.
These are dogs.
These are pretty girls, but.
Yeah, how long was your training to be a medic?
It had to be like two and a half months, maybe two months.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, but then you go to field med school.
If you're going to go to the Marines, they send you to like this mini-marine boot camp.
And it's also, you're not.
learn in medicine, but it's sort of like, hey, get you ready for the culture of the Marine Corps.
So you're there for another couple months, you know.
But it's a bunch of dumb-ass kids from all over the country.
Oh, yeah.
Believe me.
It's the same in the Navy, too, man.
Yeah.
You got everything, you know, you got everything ranging from, you know, some kids are smart that
want to volunteer, but there's a lot from bottom of the barrel.
Like, I was one of them.
Like, I got nowhere else to go.
Oh, you look at the world's finest.
Yeah.
I remember I had to go to the dentist when I was in the Marine Corps.
he gave me some feelings, right?
And later that day, I got a fever.
Right?
And I remember I was getting my feelings done.
They told me he wasn't a real dentist who was in training.
They all are.
Right?
Yeah.
So he got infected.
And I went to the San Diego Hospital, the Navy Hospital.
Bobo.
Yeah, Bobo.
Yeah.
And he's like, yeah, we've got to take this two-five.
It's infected.
If we don't take it out, it's going to fucking kill you.
Because that infection is going to go straight to your brain.
You're going to be.
if we don't take it out now
you're probably gonna fucking die
you know what's crazy is I had the exact same thing
happened to me
really yeah I'm not joking
they yanked like three of my teeth out
and uh
I went to a civilian dentist when I went home
because I was having issues and he looked in my
he looked at my shit he was like
yo who did this to you
and I was like
the dentist at the Marine
you know he's like yeah dude if
you could sue he's like this dude
destroyed your mouth like none of these had
to come out these were all minor problems
But like you said, they're all in training.
Yeah, and they're training on the recruits.
Look like if they're in training,
maybe you should put a real doctor with them
when they're training. It's crazy.
You would think.
I don't know.
I had to pull the tooth and when he pulled it out the doctor's laugh.
He said, man, it's a bunch of green shit came up your face.
But I pull that tooth out.
He's like, fuck, you got gang green with your head.
And your mouth?
Yeah, he was lavies, man.
I pulled a bunch of green shit out.
Damn.
He said, as soon as I pulled the tooth,
it looked like a river green shit.
You start flowing out your face.
That can jack you up, though, real good.
He's right about that because I went to, when I went to Buds, which was steel training,
I had all, you know, that work.
Right.
We're not even calling it work, whatever they did to be done.
And I'm going through Hell Week, and near the end, like, I felt like someone was hit me with a baseball bat in the side of the mouth.
And I was like, dude, what?
You can't see yourself.
You're already jacked up.
Yeah.
And one of the instructors pulled me out and was like, you need to go to medical right now.
Yeah.
You know, and I'm trying to refuse.
I'm like, nope, because I don't want to get dropped.
But they had to take me an emergency dental the same thing.
They're like, if this thing is so infected,
if you let this go, you could lose your jaw.
Yeah.
So, yeah, they had to work on it right there.
It's like one in a, actually serious.
Yeah.
Fucking Marines.
Shout out to, shout out to,
Simplified, Navy, dogs.
That shit was nuts.
What is it like going through seal train?
I guess it depends on how you look at it.
Yeah.
It's, I loved it.
Yeah, it was, I mean, I fought for four years when I was in the Marine Corps to get there.
I kept putting in orders trying to get there and kept getting denied.
And, you know, eventually some chief saw my record.
And he was like, dude, why hasn't this guy's applied like 25 times?
Let him go.
So he let me go.
And so by the time I got there, I was just, dude, I was thankful to be there.
So, I mean, it's, it's tough, you know, it's just another selection process just to see how bad you want it.
You know what?
Before I joined the Marine Corps, me and Keith was vacuum cleaning the salesmen.
Door to door. Door to door.
Chief was the supervisor.
Some Dyson.
Some damn curbies.
Curbies.
And we had this dude that he was a salesman.
He said he tried to be a Navy selling.
It didn't work out.
He said they dropped him off in a helicopter in underwear with a ramble of diamond out in the middle of the jungle.
And he had to get to a certain point.
He said he never made it.
Yeah, there's a reason why he's selling vacuum cleaners.
He's full of shit.
Yeah, that doesn't happen.
He was a liar.
Yeah, I heard all like, that's what's funny when you're prepping to go.
Yeah.
You're talking to people and like, oh, this is what I want to do.
And you'll meet a lot of characters that say they went.
You know, oh, yeah, went and they'll make up some outrageous.
Like, I heard, you know, you had to kill a puppy.
Like, they make you have a puppy and, you know, kill it at the end.
He said he had to sleep in a tree.
or the lions would have got him.
Yeah, all right.
I said, dude, you went to sleep in a tree?
I said, well, can't the lions go up the tree?
He's like, yeah, but I slept with one eye open.
That's like, they teach you to do that in the seals, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, none of that shit is true.
It's just, dude, it.
You got to be like a fish, though, right?
You got better to swim pretty, right?
Yeah, I mean, you definitely got to be comfortable in the water.
But there's people that show up there.
especially the brothers, man.
The K-Swift?
Yeah, some of them have a hard time.
I mean, you know, and you guys are like more muscular dense.
Yeah.
And so they sink.
But they make it through, man.
I mean, it's just perseverance.
And, you know, sometimes I have to put in the extra work when Buzz is not going on to, you know, pass.
It's how bad you want it.
But it's actually pretty, dude, it's pretty simple, man.
There's not a lot there.
There's pull-up bars, logs, sand, and water.
Do you have to do a certain amount of pull-ups and a certain amount of time?
or is it a time or when you run a certain distance or?
Yeah, so while you're there, you have to, I mean,
you, every morning you wake up PT at like 5 a.m.
And yeah, you have instructors out there just, you know,
they're doing, you do hundreds of pull-ups or push-ups or whatever that
instructors get at is probably what you're going to do the most of.
And then you got to have, you got to meet the standards on,
so each week you got to do a four-mile time run.
You got to meet, the times get cut shorter and shorter
as you go on.
So you have to get faster.
Oh, wow.
You got to do a two-mile ocean swim each week and pass it.
Two miles?
Yep, in the ocean.
In the ocean.
Yeah.
Dude, I don't think I can swim 10 feet?
It's, yeah, I mean, it depends.
Two miles in the ocean?
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, you definitely got to know how to swim pretty well.
I mean, you don't got to be a super swimmer, but like for those.
I mean, and that's what's great about buds is there's so much stuff that you have to pass and be good at.
they'll find there's a weakness for everybody right so oh i see like for me you know i could run real
fast and i could swim fast i was like 155 pounds you know but i was definitely in great shape
but then you know log pt which they're you know beating you you have a log for three hours and
you're having to hold it up and i mean oh a log yeah so you're on a log with four or five other people
and they're just putting you through exercises for three hours and that's probably one of the
most punishing evolutions. Yeah. It's one of the, you'll, they'll find a weakness some way and
exploit it. Um, right. It's just, all they want to see is can you get past that weakness? Can you,
um, do you have the grit and determination? And can you just keep going and not quit? Um,
so they make you fall. They just want to see if you can get back up. Yeah. Yeah. Um,
that's, that's pretty much it. I mean, it's, uh, it's pretty simple. Like I said,
there's no magic to it. It's just don't, don't quit. Um, and meet the standard. Yeah, you went through,
you went through Marine Corps boot camp, right?
No, I went, so I went to Navy boot camp, but then I went to, like I said, to field med school, which is I wouldn't even call Marine Corps boot camp.
But they try and emulate it a little bit to try and get you used to the culture.
Oh, okay.
So I did four years at Camp Lejeune with one.
Yep, I've been in Camp Lejeune.
Yeah, it's a great place.
Remember the massage followers?
There's one on every block.
He called them the Jack Shacks.
Yeah.
The Jack Shacks?
Yeah.
It's been a while since I've been a minute.
You get paid on what the 15th?
in the first.
As soon as we got paid, we was going to the Jack Shacks.
Yep.
Or they were saying they had that strip club
Driftwood right outside the front gate
and that would be like a line wrapped around
that trying to get in.
First and 15th, yeah.
Nothing but Marines a name.
Looking for their wife.
Man, that was a good old days, man.
It was, man. It was a good time there.
I wish I could go back and do that all over again.
I didn't realize how good it was, but...
My son's in the Marines right now.
Yeah, he just, yeah, he,
he graduated boot camp last December.
Oh, okay.
So he's at school in Virginia, but, yeah, I call him.
I'm like, how's it going?
Yeah, man.
It depends.
Like, somebody's like, man, fuck this.
Like, I want to get out.
But then some days, like, no, it's going good.
I'm like, let me tell you something, dude.
I was like, this is the best time in your life right now.
Yeah.
Right when you get in and you're like, experience it all.
All these different people, yeah.
You're going to make buddies for life.
I'm like, you like cherish it.
Try to, man.
Yeah, I wish I could go back and do that.
Yeah.
I said take pictures.
Yeah.
Yeah, I didn't take no pit.
Me either.
Well, we didn't have PIP.
We didn't have cell phones.
Nope.
That's true.
Yeah, those Kodak.
Yeah.
You're going to walk around with a damn polar road all day.
So, yeah, man, I wish I could do that over, but, you know.
Yeah.
Did you try to talk to your son out because you went through something?
You had a lot of good times, but you had some very, you know,
I mean, the end, yeah, the end of my career was definitely pretty shitty.
But, no, man, like, he came.
So he's a.
That dude is like a brainiac, man.
He's smarter than anybody else in our household.
So he went to UC Santa Cruz to get his chemistry degree.
And he was there.
Yeah, that's, I mean, this is what I'm talking about.
Like, the dude, his homework he was doing, it looked like hieroglyphics to me.
I was like, I don't know what's going on.
Right.
I mean my sister brought home a calculus book.
I don't even see any numbers in it.
Yeah.
Just letters.
That's how I feel bad for my kids because they, I'm like, listen, man.
I was a punk.
Like, I know this shit.
Yeah.
I'll try to help you out as best I can.
Yeah.
Right, right.
But yeah, he went during, obviously, his first year is when all that shit was going on with me.
And then the next two years of COVID happened.
And up there in Northern California, it was like a, you know, left extremist boot camp he was going to, like, not a lot outside his room.
You know, could have to, yeah, I mean, they were Nazis up there.
So he finally called us and he was like, dude, I'm not doing it, like mentally at all.
I can't, you know.
So I flew out there with my youngest son.
I was like, pack your shit.
I drove him back to Florida.
I was like, you'll rehabilitate here.
And then we'll finish out your classes.
And while he was home, he's like, I ain't going back.
He's like, I'm not doing it.
I'm joining the Marine Corps.
And so I had, you know, two-day talk with him as a dad, like, hey, you sure, you know,
this is what you want to do.
And he's like, yep, man, and he gave me all the right answers.
And I was like, I support you, man.
I was like, I don't, you know, even though that crap happened to me, I was like, I have no, like, I love the military, man.
Like, my family was raised in it.
My family's got a legacy in it.
I think it's a good thing, you know.
I just think right now we just have some piss-poor leaders running it.
And that can change.
Yeah.
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Yeah, so I kind of want to text on that what happened,
Because you're like a highly decorated seal.
You got all these awards for valor,
and you went through all these special training missions.
What happened and got you?
Eight on.
How many times you do?
Nine, nine, four of one.
Nine.
Shit, dude.
I thought when I was in Rinkaw,
when I heard about people like being a grunt,
I thought when I thought of the grunts and nits seals,
I thought maybe people would do that shit for four years
and then switch over to something else.
But people like you,
you actually did it,
your entire career, and you actually retired a seal.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I mean, I think during the time that we were, you know,
myself and my generation were able to be in, I mean, it was,
if you really wanted to join and go to war and, like,
I actually do that, then we joined at the right time, and we got 20 years of it.
So, I mean, that is what I joined to do.
Like, I told you, even though I had no real idea of what, like, a warrior, like,
somebody like that is, I was like, that's what I want.
And I just kept after it, and, you know, 9-11 happened.
and it was like, that's it.
So we got to just keep deploying a combat over and over.
And so near the end of my career was my, obviously my last deployment.
We went to Missoule, Iraq, and we were trying to get rid of ISIS out of there,
which was awesome deployment.
Trump was in office.
He had just got an office, so we actually got a full-on directive, which was to, like,
eliminate them all.
So we just pushed through that whole city and tried to kill his man.
them as we could. And so at the end of that deployment, we came home. And that thing was good, right?
Everything was like the deployment good. We know the, the mission was accomplished. But during that
deployment, there was some toxicity going on within the platoon. I was the platoon leader, an enlisted leader
as a platoon chief. And some of the dudes, actually, it's like three of the dudes that worked underneath
me didn't like me. We just, we weren't. People that you was, you know, you was pretty, basically,
you was their manager. Yeah, like, you know, it's, yeah, you're the man. You're the, you're the, you're the,
lead on tactical expertise.
Like you're the one who's like if you're going to go out and do a mission, you're going to be
working all the tactics on a mission and kind of, you know, sort of determining like,
hey, this is how we're going to take down this target.
And then you're also in lead when you're out there actually doing the job.
The officer, you have an officer in charge, obviously.
That's sort of like corporate level.
Right, right.
And then there you have an LPO who's below the chief.
That is sort of like the manager.
So you're like, hey, this is what I want done.
The LPO then goes and executes it and delegates to everybody else.
So I had like three guys in that platoon that, you know, our personalities didn't jive.
How long have those guys been in it was?
So I was 10 years older than the oldest dude in that platoon.
Oh, okay.
So there was a big generational gap as well.
Yeah, they have babies.
Yeah, pretty much.
I mean, compared to me, you know, it was, and they hadn't, none of them had combat experience at all.
Wow.
But you went on eight to pull.
Yeah, so that's all I had been doing.
So it was definitely, you know, it was different.
But these guys were, you know, they said they wanted it.
They're like, this is what we signed up for.
And then when we got over there and actually got into the show, they sort of showed their ass a little bit.
You could see, you know, it wasn't, they weren't comfortable with a lot of stuff that was going on.
And it was, I'll give them this.
That was a chaotic deployment.
There was a lot of, what do you call it?
Death.
A lot of death.
A lot of watching women and kids and men get mowed down in front of us by ISIS.
So, I mean, it was a lot to take on for somebody that's never been to combat.
So I'll give you that benefit for the doubt.
But the problem with them, much like the problem with a lot of that generation and just what I see it now is like there's no accountability.
It's like, hey, maybe I'm not cut out for this.
Instead, they blamed.
This is your fault that you put me in this situation.
You're making me do these things.
So that toxicity sort of built up.
During that deployment, those three were trying to get other people to join them in the platoon, like, hey, you know, just hating on me all the time.
That's crazy because many times you went to deploy in these war combat zones, and they have no experience, and they're attacking you for doing what they sign up to do.
Yeah, I mean, it's weak.
That's just a sign of weakness.
But, you know, nevertheless, it's what they did.
But, you know, we finished out the deployment, and we got home, and they got home.
kept that going. So they went to the command. And so I got, I got some accolades from that deployment.
I got, you know, number one chief. I was getting put in for awards, stuff like that. And so they went.
And that must have really pissed him off. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They were, they were not happy about that.
So they went to the command and were like, hey, this guy, he's dangerous. Like, his tactics are
dangerous. He was making us do, you know, dangerous stuff out there. So the command was like, well,
what was he making you that was dangerous? And so they'd expect him.
explain it and the command was like, nope, those are tactics. Like, we've been doing those for
the past 20 years. So then they just kept escalating their allegations, trying to get
something. It's like, oh, well, he was stealing from us. And they're like, what?
You stole from? Yeah, so I stole. You stole from the Marines?
Went to the Jack Shack? Yeah. Brought back my Marine Corps days.
What did you say you stole? Let's see, a Red Bull out of the fridge, which was six months,
you know, prior.
So you did take.
That I mean, I'm like, maybe, you know, maybe I did take a red.
I don't know.
Like, why are you bringing this up six months later?
Yeah, it's a fucking red ball, right?
Yeah. Power bars out of like the care packages.
Like, it was, it was such like petty BS.
And then once again, the command was like, you know, get out of here.
Like, this isn't, this isn't an issue.
And then it wasn't until probably eight weeks later they came back for like, we saw him
stab an ISIS prisoner to death.
A prisoner?
Yeah.
And which we'll get to that because there was no prisoners on that deployment.
We weren't taking any.
So the command's like, all right, they were like, are you, like, you want to go through
with this?
And they're like, yeah.
And so the command's like, all right, good night.
I don't blame.
You know, the command had to report it.
They're like, this is a war crime or whatever you want to call it, law of arm
conflict.
So they have to let them pursue it.
Yeah.
So that pretty much got, you know, reported to NCIS, which is,
naval criminal investigative service.
They actually do belong to the Marine Corps as well.
They like the military's FBI, right?
Actually, you know what?
At this point, you can compare them to the FBI.
It's a joke.
It's a joke.
It's like they're like the hallway monitors at school
back in high school.
Oh, yeah.
A little nerds.
So once those guys took over,
like I said, you have a bunch of nerds
that never amounted to anything in their life
except for trying to investigate people actually doing the job.
This guy, Joel Rapinski, took the case,
and he was, like, the worst combination of ambition and incompetence you've ever seen.
So he wanted to make, he's like, dude, I'm going to make a case out of this.
That's crazy.
He's attacking a war veteran, and something he's never experienced.
He's never walked those shoes.
Oh, that was my whole trial.
Like, the amount of people that were condemning me for, you know,
whatever my actions or my past career,
none of them had any experience.
None of them had even been to Iraq or Afghanistan
or probably could point it out on a map.
That's insane.
Yeah, they were weak.
I mean, it's just dudes trying to make, you know,
a career, climb that ladder.
They don't care who they take down, you know.
So, yeah, this guy took the case,
and it was pretty much, I was guilty.
You know, like, we're going to get this dude no matter what.
So they ended up,
eventually I was told I was under like, hey, you're under investigation.
I was like, all right, you know, what do I do?
And then no one would help me.
They were like, my whole command, like, completely backed away from me.
They're like, you're on your own.
So I ended up, I hired, I got a lawyer.
I talked to a lawyer, actually.
I didn't hire one.
I was like, hey, what do I do?
He was like, hey, well, this lawyer worked for a nonprofit called United American Patriots.
And what they said they would do, they're like, if you get, if your case starts going
the way you think it's going to go, we will defend you.
And we'll step in and help, no charge.
This is what we do.
I was like, all right, sweet.
So it wasn't until, like, months later is when they raided my house.
And my wife and I went home.
They raided your house.
Oh, yeah.
Dude, they...
What the hell were they looking for?
That's the thing.
It's, you know, they didn't even have to do that.
It was all...
These are all tactics done to drive fear into your family,
break your family apart
and it's also to drive fear into everyone else
from talking to you.
So when they raided my house,
they sent,
I mean,
it was like I was a freaking cartel leader, man.
Right.
The SUVs blocking off all the streets.
They were yelling people to get inside.
So my youngest son,
who was eight at the time,
and my oldest who had just turned 18,
they pulled them out at gunpoint or underwear.
And that's what I mean,
gunpoint, like at guns at their heads,
like got them out in the street.
At kids.
Yeah.
My wife, like I said, my wife wasn't home, neither was I.
I was actually being interrogated at the time.
So they knew who was home.
They didn't have to.
They knew.
All this shit was done on purpose.
Like there's no, oh, we didn't know.
It's like they planned it out.
Everything they do is, like I said, to use as a scare tactic or to like drive fear into you.
Like, hey, big side.
I'll do whatever you want.
You know, don't.
It's, and I mean, it's done by just weak individuals.
Sounds so un-American.
You, what you did for a country and for them to treat you like that?
Yeah, it is.
It's completely un-American.
Even if you don't serve your country, you can't just do that to an American citizen.
Right, right.
That violates, I don't know how many rights.
But the thing is, when you're in the military, you don't have the rights that you think you do.
Right.
You find that out when you're put in a situation like this.
So, yeah, my wife ended up coming home halfway through the raid.
They started interrogating her.
She was like, why are you guys here?
They're like, your husband.
They're like, your husband.
Yeah.
They were like, your husband.
is a murderer.
She's like, well, who did he murder?
And they're like ISIS, an ISIS member.
And she, she's like, she's looking at him like.
So they're attacking you for killing ISIS?
Yeah.
She thought she was on candid camera.
She was like, you know, do you know what my husband does for a living?
Right.
But it didn't matter.
They, as soon as they did that, I moved my family to Florida.
I was like, I'm retiring.
Move them down there.
I had a year left, so I came back to San Diego to just GeoBatch until I got out.
And so when I came back and I was by myself, I went to a TBI clinic called Intrepid Spirits
where you get checked out for all the times you've been blown up and hurt and everything
because, you know, a lot like, I'm sure you guys in the Marine Corps and it seems like you
won't go to medical.
You're like, no, I can suck it up and keep going.
But when you get out, you're like, hey, I want to get checked out so I can get, you know,
the benefits I deserve.
Right, right.
So while I was there, they came and raided that.
We're not rated, but they came in and arrested me out of there on September 11th of all days.
They picked that day to do it.
And that, again, done on purpose because they knew that is the reason I was doing what I've been doing the past 20.
They thought that would drive some kind of like, you know, invoke some reaction out of me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they came and got me and just threw me a military prison that day.
You know, I didn't, it wasn't, I didn't resist.
I was like, this is ridiculous.
this is a mistake.
I literally thought when they put me in there,
I was like, I'm going to be out of here in like two days,
nine and a half months later.
Wow, nine and a half months?
Yeah.
It's not like your flight risk.
No.
Well, let's see, here's the thing.
So when you're in there,
they have this kangaroo court.
I forget what they call it.
There's a name for it.
But pretty much you're in there for like a week,
and they pick an officer from the base.
It was on Miramar Air Station in San Diego.
So they pick him to come in and be your judge.
and it's to determine whether
This is the officer?
Yeah, so this officer comes in
and he's going to determine
whether or not you're a threat
or you belong to stay in prison before your trial
or they can let you out.
And so I go into this room,
this guy, this officer they picked off the base,
is sitting there and that's when the prosecutor
came in and Joe Warpinski, the NCS agent,
and they pretty much gave this 30-minute act.
they're like he has done this this like all the qualifications I have had over my career they use against me they're like he's sniper he's this he's that like he's a danger to the case like they they were trying to act like I was Jason born like if we let him out now he's going to escape he's a danger to the investigation but then they started attacking my character like making up lies they're like he's a fake Christian he beats his wife all like just saying this shit like yeah
Well, and none of it was true.
Right.
They rattled off all these, like, insane accusations attacking my character.
And I'm looking at my lawyer because he was in there and I'm like, dude, are you going to say something?
He's like, and so this guy was like, this is the way it is.
Like, yeah, so as soon as they gave that act, the judge is like, no, you're staying.
That's crazy.
Nothing to back it up.
Nope.
You're not allowed to defend yourself.
You just have to sit there and take it.
So after that, obviously they're like, you're not getting out.
and I just stay, yeah, I stayed in Gen Pop for the rest of the time.
That's crazy, these officers, they're supposed to be our smartest and our brightest.
Nobody said, wait a minute, this is wrong?
No, man, because in order to do that, you have to have some kind of moral fiber and moral courage to stand up and do the right thing.
But I think we've seen over the past 15 years the deprogression of leadership and not in our country, right?
And our officers are no different.
they're getting trained at these academies
where they're being told
this is how you climb the ladder
this is how you make a career of yourself
it doesn't matter what you do to the men and women below you
where it used to be taught
you serve the men and women below you
you are a leader that they should look up to
and those I mean I had officers like that
when I first came in but now it's
we've it's tainted you know
that whole officer corps is tainted
yeah everybody's trying to stand on each other
get to move up yeah that's it man
so that's that's why you don't have anybody
And that's, I mean, I found that out during my whole process, right?
Because I had no idea.
I never paid attention to just how bad the political crap was in the military.
I mean, you always knew officers when they get to a certain rank or sort of politicians in uniform, right?
But you just didn't know how bad it actually was.
And so during my whole thing, I saw, like you said, people that I thought were stand-up people,
people that I thought actually had values.
And I mean, these are teammates that I went to war with.
that literally stood on the wayside,
you're on your own, man.
Like, good luck.
I don't,
I'm not going to say what they're doing to you is wrong or right,
because I don't want to get punished either.
Right.
And that's,
you know,
and that's,
they drive fear into everybody doing that, right?
What were you actually charged with?
So initially,
well,
I wasn't sure I was in prison for about two and a half months
before I got officially charged.
And then they came at me.
It was premeditated murder.
Of who?
Isis.
He's supposed to kill him.
Yeah, yeah, I can't make this shit up.
So it was premeditated murder of ISIS.
I was facing life without parole.
That was mine.
That was what I was facing.
Like, you're going away for life.
And as soon as that hit the media, the reaction is just like, people were like, what the fuck?
Like, this is what we're sending them over to do.
Right.
So then they realized that hurts the case.
So what they did is they slapped on two more murder charges.
So I went to a hearing, because I had all sorts of little hearings leading up to the actual trial.
And during this hearing, they were like, we are going to add two more murder charges.
He murdered a little girl and a old man on Father's Day.
And again, I was like, where is this coming from?
And it didn't have to.
They were like, yep, throw those on there too.
So then I was facing three murder charges plus like a slew of just BS military.
Nothing about a picture, right?
Conduct on becoming.
Yeah.
Yeah, I took a picture with 12 older individuals with the ISIS fighter.
But they was in charge.
No, none of that mattered.
It was just me?
You know, was you the only white guy in the picture?
That is crazy.
That is insane.
Yeah.
It sounds like almost like a comedy sketch.
And that's literally what it could be, man.
I mean, just like going to trial in that military courtroom.
My wife said,
it best she's like this is like a slash between a few good man and my cousin Vinnie she's like this is a
joke like yeah go ahead let me ask that so you were in the picture but beside the body yeah who took
the fucking picture one of the guys in the platoon yeah yeah um so wait a minute you he's like i'm gonna take a
picture yeah and i so the what they sold it as is i forced everybody into that picture wow
yeah what yeah that's crazy you kill it your mission is go out and
kill ISIS. You kill them before they kill you and you can't take a picture. That's the thing. I'm the first, I think I'm the first person ever to get charged in a court mawarser for taking a picture with a dead enemy combat. You know what's crazy? When I was at Marine Corps, it was two days before we graduated from boot camp. And a bunch of parents came. I forget what they call. They call it Parents Day. It was two days before graduation. Yeah, okay. Yeah, it was Parents Day. And a bunch of the kids' father showed up. All of them had pictures of dead Vietnamese people.
killed.
Everybody.
Yeah.
It was like the thing to do when you were in combat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You killed the enemy.
You take a picture.
Yeah.
It's like when you go hunting, you get, you kill something big.
You're like, yeah, I'm proud of what I just killed.
Yeah.
Right.
So, actually, there's, there's a process.
I mean, y'all had a camera there for a reason.
That's, is that common to take pictures in certain circumstances or no?
No.
Well, it depends on the mission, right?
So, like, yeah, if you go out and hit a target and you're doing, we call SS.
SSE sensitive site exploitation where you're gathering intel.
Then, yeah, you go around and take pictures of like, hey, here's the dude we shot.
Here's the gun next to him.
Right.
Here's the stuff we found, you know, in his room or on his body.
There are, there is points, you know, there is a point to taking pictures sometimes or video.
For this, no, this was purely done out of just like we were fucking around.
Yeah, but y'all's environment, y'all, you can't have a break?
That's, yeah.
Well, that's the thing that's hard to explain to people, right?
Yeah.
Even with the picture, people are like, oh, my gosh, you're so unprofessional and this is like so bad.
And I'm like, listen, I get, you know, and I'll agree.
I'm like, is it unprofessional?
Yes.
For sure.
Like, but at the same time, like, you're not in that environment with us.
We're literally the picture that we took right down the street.
There's a pile of dead bodies of women and kids.
Right.
We're around it 24-7.
So I think we're desensitized.
Yeah, yeah.
You're not even thinking twice.
You're like, this is whatever.
It's a joke, you know.
And the person did she.
killed is not really a person. This is some
evil, vile, disgusting person
who doesn't even value life. Yeah, and
so, and that's what they were, and so
to go back to
people's reaction, they're like, oh yeah, it's
ISIS, who cares? Well, then the media
starts reporting, well, he was 13.
He was 14. He was
probably 17 or 18 years old.
And here's
the thing, which I don't care, you know,
these liberal, whatever,
they want them trying to make something out of it.
I'm like, war is pretty simple.
I'm like, it's us first you.
I'm like, and if you pick up a gun,
you're in the game.
And the only way out of the game is death.
And I'm playing the same game as you.
So that's it.
I don't care what age, gender you are.
Like if you are, if you pick up a weapon and you're on the other side,
well then you're gone.
I was 14 I knew right from wrong.
Yeah.
And that's, yeah.
So, I mean, yeah, I mean, it was just, it's ludicrous.
And a eight-year-old girl can kill you just like a 35-year-old man can.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's been done.
the past 20 years as well.
I mean,
they use women and kids,
suicide deaths.
What's some of the foulest shit you seen out there when you was in that particular deployment?
That ISIS would pull.
Well,
dude.
This is some fucked up shit,
yeah.
Like,
I mean,
one place we went to,
there was a park that used to be a park.
It was all bombed out.
But they had kids heads on spikes.
Kids?
Yeah,
like kids' heads,
decapitated.
put their heads on like the fence around there.
On the top of the fence?
Yeah.
You know,
we,
in order to get into sniper position sometimes,
we'd have to,
like, push up and trying to get into these buildings,
and these buildings will be blocked off by dead bodies,
like piles of dead bodies.
So we'd have to climb over the dead bodies
to get into the buildings.
That was pretty gnarly at times.
And then I think,
I mean,
some of the worst is just watching them.
So we'd be, you know,
separated by, like,
six, 700 yards,
crossing a field or like a pretty open space.
And so ISIS would release like 20 women and kids sprinting towards us and then just mow them down halfway through to see if they would pull us out to go save them.
Right.
And so, you know, the Iraqis that we were with would run out sometimes and then they'd get blasted too.
So it was just, yeah, it was foul.
Then they would, they knew we had ISR and, you know, in the air watching looking for stuff to bomb.
So what they would do is put cardboard cutouts on the roof of people with guns.
So it would look like, you know, somebody who's flying the drone or whatever,
like, hey, there's two guys with guns on that building.
So they'd like, all right, man, drop a hellfire into it.
But what ISIS would do is chain civilians in the house.
And so when we would bomb it, then they would use that as propaganda, like, see what they just did?
Yeah.
They're killing civilians.
When they were the one, you know, they set up those cardboard cutouts up.
I mean, they knew what they were doing.
So, yeah, I mean, I don't.
I don't know if it can get any fowler, you know.
Yeah.
Especially, you know, with women and kids, it's like that's about as nasty as it gets.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, there's one story.
Yeah, I went up, I was going up, uh, wrecking the spot one day and there was a
woman trying to cross, uh, this road.
And one of the Iraqi forces, there was like multiple Iraqi forces out there, um, was there
at the corner and she ran towards them and she,
got hit by a sniper and in her arm, but she made it across and she had a baby with her.
And so I went over and I pulled out my blowout kit and I just banished her up real quick.
And I was like, I'm looking for a spot somewhere near here.
And they started talking in Iraqi to her and it started getting like confrontational.
And one of the dudes just like executed her right there in front of me, which I was like after
I had treated her.
And so I asked one of the turps.
to come up. I'm like, why did they just do that?
And he's like, oh, that's the wife of an ISIS fighter.
That was it, you know?
So, I mean, it was...
Well, they need you, no?
Yeah, and I'm not saying that's right.
It's just, I'm just saying that's the environment that we were in.
There was no...
There wasn't an American-led war either.
So there was no rules.
It was pretty savage.
So, yeah, I mean, it was...
And that's, you know, to bring it back to, like, the picture and everything,
when they were making a big deal out of that,
that's what it was such a...
A joke, you're like, after everything we just went through on those six months, everything we saw, this is...
Red Bulls.
Yeah.
Red Bulls.
Yeah, Red Bulls.
Energy bars.
Yeah.
It was a joke.
That must have put a lot of strain on your marriage, though.
You would think, man, but, dude, I'm married to a straight, like the best, bro.
She is my best friend.
We were best friends in high school.
Oh, cool.
We met up later on in life and got married.
But yeah, she, as soon as that happened, dude, she stood up and started fighting back.
She's the only reason I'm sitting here today.
She literally took to social media and started her own organic social media campaign, pretty much putting out everything that they were doing to me.
Because while I was locked up, they were also violating my rights.
So they would not let me see my lawyers.
That was like a privilege.
Right.
So, dude, they had this.
So you have, there was different pods.
I think there was like four different pods in there.
And I was in one of the pods, which general population.
And so you were assigned a, I don't know, counselor with what the name is.
And it was this black chick named Rashida.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Can it get any worse?
I'm telling you, bro, this was like, dude, she did not give a shit.
Oh, yeah.
So she hated me.
she would come in and like so they would make rules up for stuff that I was doing so if I was doing
push-ups in my cell they'd be like hey no one's allowed to do push-ups in their cell anymore no working
oh yeah the prisoners started calling it the Eddie rules they're like oh was Eddie must have been doing
you know because that's how bad they were targeting me in there they wanted me to snap so if you
have a and so I'll tell you right now they put a black woman on me I'm a snap so listen to this
shit dude this is this is just the environment that you're in so if you're not able to
see your lawyer, you know, I'm not, I wasn't able to, like, get medical, uh, treatment.
They, they just deny you everything. So then they have a complaint box where you can complain,
be like, hey, or be like, hey, I'm not able to see my lawyer. Well, due to Rashida, not letting me
see my lawyer. Well, guess where those complaints go? To restrate to her. So Rashida would come in
and be like, oh, Gallagher, get over here. And I'm like, she's like, so I ain't let you see your
lawyers? I never complain? She's like, well, now you ain't going to see him for another two months.
and she would walk out.
I'm not shitting you, dude.
That is crazy.
That's the kind of thing going on in Georgia with Trump.
And then that black woman up in New York.
Yeah.
It's like everybody's prosecuted Trump is black.
I'm like, what the hell is wrong with black people?
Yeah, she was a trip, man.
And then she, yeah.
So, I mean, all that was going on.
So I'm telling my wife all this over the phone.
Like, hey, this is, and she's putting everything out on social media.
I'm like, hey, this is what's going on.
Here's the actual truth about what's going on.
on, combating the whole mainstream media narrative.
And so she got a bunch of followers.
And then people started, like, catching on.
And then eventually, or my brother at the same time, lived in D.C.
So he was going to Congress every day, knocking on doors, like, do something.
You know, this is wrong, what's going on.
And unfortunately, not a lot of people were paying.
They were like, no, there's nothing we can do.
You know, he ended up, we ended up getting 50 signatures from some congressmen all on
the Republican side.
but eventually they both got invited on to Fox and friends to talk about it and that's where
Trump who was present at the time got involved he saw what was going on and so when I was in
there one day we're walking to breakfast and one of the guard stops me and he's like I think are
you getting out today and I was like I don't fucking know you know he's like well the president just
tweeted about you and I was like what and he's like yeah he said to let you out and lay
literally later that day I get I get let out but not fully I get let out but then my command
comes and locks me in a barracks room and they're like you can't leave this barracks room so
pretty much I'm back in prison again for another month and a half and this time same was not allowed
to see any of my lawyers could your wife kids come so my wife and kids obviously they were living
in Florida and I was locked up in California but my wife would fly out I was allowed visitation
on Sundays, I think.
And so you get about a two-hour visitation.
So when she came down, she was able to see me on that day when she came and visited.
I had a really tight group of friends that came every weekend just to, like, visit and talk.
But even with that, and so the prison that I was in was mainly all sex offenders.
It was a sex offender prison.
What?
Yeah.
So it was all.
Yep, you have sexa.
Yeah.
So it was all.
Like pure hail.
It, well, it was like, it was just ridiculous, you know?
And like, these people weren't like, you know, they're not a threat.
They're, these sexmen are weak men, right?
So it wasn't like, I wasn't worried about anything happening to me.
But at the same time, what really pissed me off is when my youngest son came to visit me,
he was one of the first times I got to see him.
I was not allowed to embrace him, not allowed to touch him.
He came in with a tank top on.
They made him wear a gown.
a hospital gown over him and I'm like, why is he got to wear this?
And they're like, because he'll excite the other prisoners if they see his spare skin.
Wow.
Like with that are in the way.
And you're not allowed to touch him because that'll also excite them too.
And we don't want them to, you know, get excited because they already are mentally ill.
So, yeah.
So that, I mean, all that shit was like pretty ridiculous.
And, but I'll tell you what, man.
Like, if it wasn't for my wife and brother, I mean, they, my wife was like the, the rock,
and kept my whole family together
and did not refuse to let the government
drive us apart like they wanted to.
She just kept fighting.
And they literally did not know what to do.
She, by the end of it,
her Instagram account
and everything she was doing
was being briefed in the Pentagon.
Really?
Yeah, that's how much of a pain in the ass she was to them.
They were like, this chick is like destroying us at every angle.
That's the picture your wife from your book right there?
Yep.
So that's the day we walked,
that was the day of the verdict
when we walked out
when I got found
not guilty
and that
her face is perfect
like I told you so
motherfuckers
her face is perfect
yeah
yeah
yeah
he got this look
like kiss
uh
white ass
yeah
yeah
I mean yeah
and that's
and that's where we also
got the
you know
the fuck around
and find out
um
thing is that's
that was her
they kept trying to pull
they tried to pull
all this slick
deceitful shit
the whole time
and she would catch them
on it
put it out there
and then they like
couldn't get away
with it
so she was like
yeah
fuck around
and find out
she's like
keep trying
like I'm just
going to keep calling you out.
That's crazy. Our own government treating
a Navy SEAL like that. Well, that's
our own government treating the President of the United States.
I mean, and that's the thing. I wouldn't
like seeing
how this country is being run now and the
things that we're seeing, I mean, right in front of us.
I think some people are like, holy shit,
I can't. We're like, yep,
this doesn't surprise us one bit.
You know what? I don't think this is all
new tactics, what they did to you and Trump.
No. I think they used it for like
foreign forces,
foreign governments that would use stuff like what they did to you and Trump.
Oh, yeah.
But now our government's turned it against our citizens.
Yep.
That's exactly right.
And it's because of leadership at this point.
Yeah, it's all weak leadership, man.
I think that is one of the main factors of what's wrong with our country right now.
Yeah.
Why we're, you know, I wouldn't even say going to shambles,
but we definitely have a lot of things wrong going on.
Everything's sort of topsy-turvy and upside down.
It's because we've had weak leadership for so long.
Yeah.
We had four years of strong leadership.
And everybody, all the weak ones came after him
and just tried to destroy him for those four years.
What do you think about those polling numbers for Kamala Harris?
You're supposed to like winning the election.
I don't believe anything that's put out, man.
Like, where are they polling those from?
Yeah.
They're probably dead voters.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Or, you know, they're going to some liberal, you know, city like.
Like, how can a woman so disliked?
Unpopular.
popular, the presidency, it was just going all down here.
She dropped out her of presidency, Tennessee, because nobody liked that.
And now a sudden she's the most popular candidate ever.
Because I think the government knows they can manipulate the American public.
Easily, very easily.
I think they proved that already during COVID.
They're like, we got you morons to stay inside.
We got you morons to put a uncontested drug into your body.
We got you to follow all of these rules.
And I think, you know, remember before COVID started, the whole paper towel and toilet paper thing?
Right.
Like, did you, like, when that was going on, I was like, what the fuck?
Like, what is this?
Like, why are people, why has this become such an issue?
Total paper's the last thing on my mind.
Right?
So, I mean, and I'm, you know, I tell my wife, I'm like, that was a little test to be like,
let's see if we can get these idiots to go out and freaking go nuts over toilet paper and paper towels.
And as soon as they saw it, they're like, oh, we got them.
We got them.
release the COVID thing.
And I think, you know, that's why now they think they can get away with it again.
I mean, like you talked about, Kamala, she's a bumbling moron.
Yeah.
Joe Biden.
You literally didn't think you'd get any worse than Biden, but it's like, no, it can.
Like, it's now we got somebody that can actually talk, but nothing intelligent comes out of her mouth.
Right.
And so when they were like, hey, yeah, we'll just throw her in and then we'll tell her everybody she's up in the polls and tell everybody.
She's black.
There are people that are going to like, yes.
Yeah.
Because people don't black woman too.
Yeah.
I don't even think she is.
Well, she, what is she like, multiracial?
Yeah, she's, whatever she wants to be.
Yeah.
But, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think of, they say her father's Jamaican and they consider it to be black, but
when I look at her dad, I don't see a black man.
There's, there's a race of people.
When you look at Indians, there's some Indians that are like black people, but they don't
identify as black people.
That's what her dad looks like.
He just like an Afro-Indian.
And now they're trying to pull,
try to claim that she's black.
And she's not ethnic get black or culturally black.
But isn't it crazy, though, like,
they are so focused on race.
Yeah, that's all they got.
But that's the most racist thing ever,
because it's like saying, okay,
maybe she's Indian,
but we're going to say she's black,
what's like,
well, then you're shitting on Indian people?
Like, they're not good enough?
Like, what race is good enough?
Yeah.
You know, it shouldn't matter.
If this Democrat is black.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're doing it's just another ploy for black people to go vote for them
Because black people are going to vote for her just because she's black
Yeah
Do you think that though like because I see a lot of stuff saying like the black communities are like
They're waking up yeah like this isn't right like typically every election black people vote like 90 to 95 percent
Democrat I think this election is probably going to be around 80 85 percent yeah which is huge
Yeah it's still that's still a large number of good but you would think
black people would wake up but
nah they are even when she's like faking accents
and doing all like it I don't get it
I don't get it dude
I'm like it's like almost like
they're mocking black people
yeah nobody picks up on that shit
they like drives me crazy
I'm like oh my gosh she doesn't talk like that
why y'all like
cheering this on
and I think that's all people want man
it's like something to look at
and be like all right
I can relate to this person or
or like you know how some people are like
well like the big thing I hear
you know the one I guess I don't
called an argument against Trump. It's just
they're like, well, he's just not presidential.
And you're like, so by presidential,
you want somebody that's articulate
that can get up there and be a smooth
talker and make you feel comfortable.
I'm like, those are called professional liars.
They know how to lie
and they can get up there and lie
and make you feel good and make you feel comfortable
and then they're going to pull some shit
behind the curtains that you have no idea.
Trump is not a politician.
He's not a,
I mean, he's not that articulate.
Right? Like, he's pretty much like, this is what I'm going to do and too fucking bad, right?
I'm like, he's not, he's in your face of like, this is what I'm about.
And I think that's what we need is somebody that doesn't give a shit and is strong and will back up what he says.
Just to play any games.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But see, that's the thing about Democrats.
They don't run on policy.
They run on, like, painting the other side is racist.
I mean, they have no policies.
So I think that's what they're so effective as politicians.
Because Republicans, they rely on policy.
you know what I mean I want to do this I want to do that
the other side doesn't they just
I want to save the world I want to give you quality
everybody yeah I want to bring down
food cause I want to coexist yeah yeah
and it's like how do you do that they don't go into detail how they're going to do it
yeah but it makes people feel good because they have no intention
to doing that yeah that's the other thing
yeah they don't care about you like
not one bit right it's that's the truth
you know when I hear of K because I used to be liberal
when I hear RFK talk, that reminds me why I used to vote for those people when I hear I'm told.
Well, I was raised. My parents were Democrat. They're moderate Democrats back in the day, and I still, like, agree with the way I was raised.
It was back in the day, it was you work for what you earn. And then when you earn things and you start making money, then you should help other people out.
Like, you should always be trying to help those that are, you know, below you and trying to raise them up.
But not for free, right? You don't just give them shit for free.
you make enough money that you've worked for and you want to help people you should do it.
And I still believe that, you know, to this day.
And I think that's more on the Republican side now.
Right.
And that's, and I like RFK.
Yeah.
I think he's, you know, he's, obviously he's intelligent and.
Common sense.
Yeah.
And he speaks the truth too.
You know, he's, I like the fact that he's all about make America healthy again.
And he's all about, you know, anti-pharmaceutical.
It's, we need that because, I mean, that's one of the biggest problems in this country, too, is we're killing ourselves.
Yeah.
I really enjoy it when he went up on stage with Trump.
I said, this is why I used to vote for Democrats.
Yeah.
And then you got Tulsi Gabbard joining in.
And what's crazy.
So tell me how nuts this is that Bush, Dick Cheney, and them are on Kamala's side now.
I'm like, right.
These are the people that you guys were calling the devil, like 10, 15 years ago.
I just know.
I just know the government had been able to spy on us now.
Yeah.
And Dick Cheney is a piece of shit.
Like, I mean, you know, and I was, you know, fooled by him for sure.
when we kicked off the war.
I'll admit that and I was duped just like everybody else.
Those dudes was Democrat.
Yeah.
Rhinos.
For the Democrat party.
Rhinos.
I voted for that one dude.
What's his name?
Mitt Romney?
I voted for him.
That's how bad I hate Obama.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you didn't have Obama, you had to vote for Mitt Romney.
It's fucking crazy, right?
Yeah, you're talking about the lesser of two evils now.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
I just look, I don't even care.
like right or left I'm like what is your character man like who are you as a person do are you
are you and I if you are about something that I'm not about and you're like hey this is what I want
but you stand by that I can respect you for that like if you make about argument you're like dude
this is why I believe in this and I'm not going to switch sides this is where I stand I have I respect
because you have a backbone and yeah it's the people that flip-flop like oh now I'm going to be on
this side it's you know the kite flyers whatever way the wind's blowing is where I'm going to go exactly
And you have, like, I get out rhinos, you know, like Dan Crenshaw is one of them.
He's, you know, he's a piece of shit.
Yeah, he's, he's, he's disappointed me.
Yeah, I mean, he's, he's one of the worst.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, some people think we're not going to even have an election.
There's some rumors that we're not going to have election.
They're going to do something to keep us from having an election.
Do you think there's any proof or behind that?
I think they do that, though.
Yeah, I don't know.
Because Trump going to win.
That's why.
Well, they throw Trump in prison or they, or they,
try and kill him again.
Yeah.
I think that's what they're alluding to.
They're going to throw him in prison.
Yeah.
But even then, we can still vote for him while he's in prison.
And I think they're, it's just going to help him if they try, they do that.
People are going to get behind him more and more.
But what's going to be scary is if they do do that and Kamala gets in.
Yeah.
And it's, it's like you've just.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
I think they're just playing with fire.
You can push people, but so much, you know?
Yeah, it's scary, you know.
Hey, I want to ask you something about what do you think what's going on in Israel?
What's your take on what's going on?
Oh, my gosh.
That's a mess.
It is a mess, man.
Like, I'm Republican, and I always was like, I love the Jews.
But now I'm like, I'll open my eyes up.
Yeah.
It's not that easy.
It's a complicated issue.
Well, because it involves humans.
Right.
That's why.
And humans are.
complicated people and it doesn't matter what Jewish Christian whatever I mean there's
there's good and bad in every every sect but you know I I I stand with Israel like not
not like I'm like I'm like hey man if they want to defend themselves if they want to like
do their thing let them do their thing man like that conflict is going on for so long yeah
and you know and I'm a Christian so I you know it's in the Bible like Israel is a
is a holy place and it's one of those places like just think
if Israel just...
Do you think those people are still holy, though?
The Jewish people today?
Because they came from, um, they're like European because of World War II or...
They start refugees there, right?
Yeah, I'm sure they do.
Um, but I know like, that's where, you know, the purebred Jewish culture is, is from, you
know?
Right.
From, yeah, from that part of the world.
Yeah.
Um, but I mean, at the end of the day, I'm like, it's...
Do you think it ever be a two-party solution to that area?
Because that's what's going to fix it.
A two-party solution.
Letting the Palestinians have their own.
Yeah, just courting off, this is for the palatid.
This is for Jewish faith.
Make it too.
Because I don't think, at this point, I don't think multiple religions could coexist in that area unless they have.
Yeah, I guess a set of rules.
But then they can go ahead and apply those rules.
But then one once attacks the other again when, like, Hamas decides to throw some rockets into Israel,
And it's like Israel's going to respond and be like, dude, fuck you.
Like, okay.
And that's where I don't think people understand too is, I mean, you know, people are like,
oh, they're killing all these innocent people there and bomb.
And I'm like, well, that's war.
And the fact that Americans are like, our government is criticizing them like for what
they're doing.
It's like, dude, what do you think we just did for the past 20 years?
Do you think we were so precise and everything we did in Iraq and Afghanistan?
We killed tons of civilians over there by dropping bombs and everything.
So we have no leg to stand on.
to tell anybody how they should fight a war morally.
Yeah, they learned from us, right?
Yeah, and that's why Netanyan is like,
shut up.
Like, I'm going to do what I want.
If you only knew what the American soldiers were doing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's just horrible, man.
It is.
It's not a good situation.
War never is.
But there's no, there's no simple solution.
Yeah.
And that's the problem.
It's not even fixable, huh?
I don't know, man.
I mean, I think it's, you know, they have those treaties and whatever.
like, hey, ceasefires, but those only
last so long. Yeah. Yeah. So I
don't know what the solution is, honestly.
I think we're pretty much fucked.
We're good over here.
Yeah.
I'm talking about them. Yeah. I think they're
I mean, I think it'll
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that is, I mean, but. I don't even
touch that. We shouldn't be sending troops there.
No. Just like we shouldn't be sending troops to
Ukraine. Like, that's not our... How do you feel
about us arm in
Ukraine? I think it's
wrong. I think it's just part of the whole military industrial complex. Yeah. You know, I think that,
and it's the thing, yeah, we're funding them, but we're, we're collecting all the money. Like,
we're not just like giving them what we're doing is like, hey, yeah, we'll give you these weapons.
You're going to, you know, so, but then we also, people are like, why are we giving them billions
of dollars? So when we give them those weapons, they're buying those weapons from us and it's coming right
right back to the military industrial complex. It's all one big money making scheme. There's nothing.
righteous about what we're doing.
We're not doing it for righteous reasons.
You think that's what's feeding Israel, too, the military industrial complex?
Anywhere there's a war, the military industrial complex is getting fed.
Yeah.
So there's a conflict of answer for them to solve anything.
Yeah.
Why do you think we left all that shit in Afghanistan?
You think, like, because everyone's like, why did we do that?
It's job assurance for later on.
It's like, we'll come back here.
Jesus Christ.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
That's why, I mean, that's what I think.
There's no other reason why we left all that shit there.
Yeah.
I was like, I knew who's going to pull out, but don't she's supposed to bring the equipment with you?
I was like, holy.
You would think, you know, or pull out in a place that has the high ground and you can have the advantage.
We didn't do that either.
Yeah.
So, again, it all starts at the top.
Weak leadership, right?
People have no clue what they're doing.
Hey, y'all, three red flags that show you might have poop stuck in your coat,
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Has your son, he's in the Marines right now?
Yeah.
I remember I went in a boot camp.
back in 92 to 96.
I mean, they would still put their hands on you.
Yeah, I was in a...
I got slapped a couple of times.
Yeah, same.
I fucking deserved it, but...
I slapped shit out of me.
A couple times.
Yeah.
One time I couldn't hold my piss long enough.
You wouldn't let me go to the bathroom, man.
I've been holding that shit for two hours,
pounding canteens.
Yeah.
Right?
And he's like, you're going to build discipline,
recruit hogs?
I said, fuck it!
Dude, I took a piss in the squad, man.
Dude, I was pissing for like 10 minutes.
It wouldn't stop.
When I was done, it was like I was standing in a fucking lake up to my fucking knees.
That's how much I pissed in there.
Yeah.
You came over and smacked you?
They smacked the shit out of them.
That's how I used to be back in the day, yeah.
Yeah, but it was, it was like psychological warfare when it was in boot camp.
I mean, I've seen other recruits through that, too.
It's like, I'm like.
It made you tougher, man.
Yeah, bitch.
It fucked me up.
really but uh does your son uh does he have any like no they he said uh when he was going through
because i was asking him that i'm like oh dude how was it and he's like well you know they he's like
they beat the shit out of you like as far as like PT and all that but he's like all the general
instructors are like you guys are lucky mothers of america have had had a say or else we fuck you
up you don't know so it's but i could say this like the marine court is the one branch man
that still got it that refuses to like lower its standards i think um at a
of all the other branches.
When I was in the Marine Corps, Mattista,
if you found out if you was gay,
they would kick you out.
Really?
Yes.
Oh, dude, when I was in boot camp,
I had this recruit,
his name was Jackson.
He was gay as a $3 a bill.
Soon as he talked,
he sounded like Spongeball.
Right?
And from morning to dusk,
the drug of his ass.
But I tell you like this,
this dude, he ran three miles.
It was crazy.
Like, he could be in Olympics.
Yeah.
Right?
And he did like 80 dead hang pull-ups.
He did like 200 sit-ups in like a minute.
Dude was a-d dude was super gay or something, right?
And they was trying to crack him so hard, but they couldn't get him to crack.
Jackson messed up, though.
They found him at night with the fire watch banging him, banging him.
And he kicked him out.
So there's two gay dudes in there then?
Well, that'll do it, man.
I knew Jackson was gay.
I don't know about that to do it.
He must have forced him.
All those pull-ups came in handy
They kicked them both out
Well, yeah, that, I mean
It was don't ask, don't tell them
But if they found out, they was kicking people out
I mean, when I went through it was
Yeah, same thing, don't ask, don't tell
You knew who was gay, like, especially in the Navy
You're like, yeah, and I went to medical school
So there's a lot of fruities there, you know
Yeah, right
And I didn't care, you're like, yeah, right
You could tell
The dude's gay, I can tell
But I'm not going to go up and be like, hey, bro, you're gay, right?
It was just as long as he can do the job
Right, yeah
Right
Keeping that shit, you know
Whatever you do behind closed doors
You can go ahead and do it man
Yeah
The one thing I don't get
Like I don't give a shit of who you sleep with
I don't care if you get
I do not care
But the one thing I can't get over
Is like they let people join
And they're getting like the
The surgeries and stuff out
Oh yeah
Chopin off when I was locked up
That was going on big time
In that prison
Really?
Yeah so
I went one time I was like hey I need uh can I get some melatonin like because I can't you're sleeping
on a metal freaking oh wow you know prison bed and my back was oh you know jacked up a little bit and
I was like I can't sleep I was like they're like no we can't you can't you know how to have
melatonin I'm like and this is like a line I mean you know with other prisoners talking to the doctor
or whatever or the nurse that dude behind me was getting a sex change like going through he's
getting all of the hormones and so he can
came up and they're like oh yeah here you go like i can't get melatonin but this dude can get all the hormones
to get a sex change all he wants and that was going on it's dude it's an agenda that's been pushed into
the military i mean it's the whole woke yes do you think they're weeding out like all the uh
the uh conservative uh right wing soldiers from the military it would seem like they were um just because
if you are conservative or republican and you're not allowed to voice that like you better not voice it
I mean, when Trump was president, there were dudes getting NJP for flying Trump flags during training.
They're like, you can't support your president.
But if it's Biden or Kamala, yeah.
So, go ahead.
Yeah.
So, I mean, it seems like it.
But at the same time, I don't, you know, you never know.
You're like, is this, you know.
It's like because most of the military is made up of conservative.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's almost like if they, they don't see what's happening.
Like if you kill people's patriotism for a country, people that's the main reason why you join the military.
So if you kill that patriotism, that reason why people like to join is like, that goes out military.
Well, there's nothing inspiring.
Right.
Why would you join?
Why would you want to go fight for a country that's, you know, try to get your president?
They, fuck.
Well, and that's the, that's the, that's the, that's, I know you're getting that, but that's the problem.
It's like the younger generation now, like my kids, they're seeing everything at the palm of their hand.
And they're paying more attention than you actually know.
And so, yeah, like when kids are seeing how our leadership and what they're doing this agenda,
they're like, I'm not joining that crap, you know, because there's nothing inspiring about it.
It's like, especially when there's no standards either.
They keep lowering standards.
It's like, oh, you're overweight, got blue hair and this and that.
Don't worry.
We'll accept you.
And it's like, well, then why would I join?
It used to be like I want to join the military to make something better of myself.
There was a standard that I have to meet to get in there.
Right, right.
So that's what I want to do.
Now it's like, we'll accept anybody.
So especially for young men, it's like, well, then why?
What's the point of doing that?
If you're letting this person in, like that weighs 300 pounds and can't do shit, then why am I joining?
They almost didn't let us join because I had a back condition.
I had a mild deformity in my back.
I forget what it's called.
Spatneed for the whole.
A mile.
Real mile, though.
Real mild, but they wasn't going to let me in.
Like, they wouldn't let you in if you didn't have 20-20 vision, if you had flat feet.
My feet were kind of, our feet were kind of fucked, too.
It's still like that in the Marine Corps.
Yeah.
Yeah, because my son, when I took him down the recruiting, they were super anal about, like, looking to his medical record.
Yeah.
I think he had, like, some dental problem 10 years ago, and they were like, we have to look up this, like, what is this?
Yeah, so, I mean.
So, the Marines are still tough to have in the Lord.
with disdance. Yeah, and the Marine Corps, and this is also a thing I love about the Marines. So my son went there, and so I was like, hey, man, you do the talk and I'm just going to make sure, you know, they don't try and screw you in some way. I'll step in, but I was like, you're a grown man. I'm like, you tell him what you want. So he's like, you know, I'm talking to me. He's like, well, is there a bonus. Because the Army's giving these bonuses and the dude look up. He's like, we're not going to pay you to become a Marine. He's like, that's a privilege. And it's like, look back down. I'm like, there it is, dude. I'm like, that is the standard right there. Yeah. Like, everyone, other branch is like, oh, we'll pay.
pay you to come in, this and that.
No, you should want to join because you're inspired to be a better man,
you know, or a better woman.
Right, right.
I think a lot of that is missing nowadays, for sure.
So pretty much the Army letting in.
Oh, bro, Army's freaking, yeah, tainted with all sorts of weirdos.
Dude, I was looking at some videos of the Army and how they march.
I was like, that was us the first day we got that.
Yeah.
It looked horrible.
You think that's bad.
You should see the SEAL teams march.
that's a yeah oh yeah there's no there's no like discipline there's anything like that yeah yeah it's
funny man yeah trying to watch much team guys get in formation and right do the whole dress right dress
they don't you know we don't do that that much or you don't do that shit y'all just kill people yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly
I mean but me coming from a marine court background I knew I was like yeah you know this is yeah yeah yeah um
now I want to ask you this real quick um like you saw a lot of death on your deployments did that change you at all
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Is it still haunt you today?
It never haunted me.
It doesn't, I never had any issues with it.
I knew what I signed up for, and it just desensitizes you.
You get very desensitized over time.
Your lack of empathy goes away for a lot of things.
You turned into a fucking sociopath.
Yeah, like not, you know, a little bit.
Like, you, but you don't realize it as you're going through.
Like, I think I noticed, I was like, oh,
something's wrong with me is when my wife's mother drowned. It was like my last deployment or before
I left my last deployment. And, you know, we got the call and obviously it's very devastating.
And I was like, you know, I went to right away like, hey, we're going to fly you out there.
Boom, boom, boom. But I had no like emotion. It was like, yep, this happened. This is, you know,
whatever you want to do, let's do it. It's naturally blocking it out, huh? Yeah. So you just learn,
you build a wall that you're like, hey, you know, I'm not going to let anything bother me.
You think that's like what you're supposed to do, you know, tough guy, whatever.
Right.
But it all comes back at some point, you know, when you get out, you got to deal with a lot of that stuff.
And it's not, you know, it is, I don't say haunting.
It's just dealing with the emotions that you suppress, you know, pressed down for so long.
Those will end up coming up.
Like, I know you've seen a lot of evil people out there.
When you came back to the States, when you look at it, you look at it.
people can you like see something that there that nobody else can see um but you're around it so much
i well yeah i mean you can pick up like nefarious activity like or somebody sort of acting kind of
weird a little bit like you're in a grocery store and you're like there's something going on with
that dude i don't know about like picking evil like oh that person's evil but yeah you can definitely
see if someone's acting sort of shady and you know it's not like you should do something about it's
just like all right check i i can see that person um yeah you can see that person um yeah you can't
Yeah. You would notice, but nobody else, everybody else is like totally oblivious.
You would, but, I mean, sometimes you're like, dude, is nobody seeing this guy?
He's got no pants on, bro.
Right.
Yeah.
The reason why I ask you that we used to work in retail.
So we get perverts, people shoplift, and you start to learn how to read people.
Yeah.
And it's like, I'm looking at this pervert.
He's like, like, in between the rack.
And I noticed him from the moment he walks in the door and said, this dude's a perv.
can see it in his eyes, his face.
Nobody sees it.
And he's straight up to just doing what he wants to do, and nobody notices it.
It's like, it's crazy.
Oh, yeah.
We, my wife and I will have that sometimes.
Yeah.
She'll, you know, we'll meet some new people, whatever.
And I'm like, some couple that, you know, friends.
They definitely swingers.
Yeah, or like, you know, I'll be talking to me.
And I'll go on the way home.
You know, my wife's like, what do you think?
I'm like, yeah, that dude's gay.
And she's like, what?
I'm like, there's something wrong with him.
And she's like, you're always thinking of this of people.
and half the time she ends up, I ends up being right.
Right.
I have, I'm like, I'm like, I don't even say it's from being seal training,
but it's just, I think it's from being a military brat and growing up all over the world.
I just like, I'm intuitive about people.
Yeah, because, think about it.
Hey, this person's a good person.
Yeah, think about it.
You meet all these people from all walks of life from all over the country.
You start to read people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then you can, you know, especially by their actions or by how, you know, how they act or what they say.
Yeah.
But I think that, yeah, the best way you can judge people is just by the people that they hang around.
too and who are their enemies.
You know what's weird about gay people?
Yeah.
I don't mean to take it that.
But soon it's like a gay guy
locks eyes with you, you can like see it.
Oh yeah.
You notice that shit?
Like a gay guy walked by and I look at him and I'm like,
damn.
It's like...
It's a different kind of stare.
He's looking at me as if he's a woman.
You could see it.
You could feel it.
He's glowing.
You're a piece of meat.
That's what you mean.
He's like, yeah.
I always thought that was weird.
Like, man, my gay dog would go off.
I remember the first time
Oh, gay guy.
Try to pick up me, man?
Dude, I fucking froze.
I could not move.
I was petrified, right?
This dude's like talking to him.
I was like, man, this dude's kind of weird.
He said, hey, man, I beat your hands off.
And then I do like that.
Yeah, I could palm my basketball, you know.
They said, man, he got some big feet.
I'm like, where's this going?
Yeah, he was eating.
He was going off his checklist.
He was like, yep.
Yeah.
I do.
In the middle of, I just froze.
I'd stop talking
I stopped looking at them
You know how women feel now
Yeah exactly
It was the weirdest thing ever
Because dudes
As dudes were just like
Yeah
It's a different look
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
And you know
The gall of this guy
I was a security
I was a security
About this dude
Yeah
I was a security guard at time
Right
He was working
One of his toys
He was telling him I could be a model
Holy shit
Oh shit
I said, yeah, I can take up his uniform.
I can make something out of that.
So bad.
It did.
I was like, I went back to my, what's that?
What's that?
Where he was doing to you?
He was, um.
He's grooming.
He's grooming.
I went to my supervisor.
Man, I said, man, this dude.
He said, well, you can't say anything.
Those people are protected.
You can't say anything.
Right?
I said, well, it was uncomfortable, you know.
It's not sexual harassment if they're gay.
Yeah.
Then it makes you, what you're doing, I hate crime.
Yeah.
You're automatically a homophobic.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And how am I was telling my friend about it.
And the dude goes walking by, and he made a complaint about me.
The dude that was trying to pick you up?
He said I was talking and I was pointing and laughing at him.
Which I wasn't.
My friend was.
I was just telling him.
You just nodding like, yep.
He didn't tell him the story.
He almost got me fired.
That did crazy because you're a homophore.
You didn't let him take you back and make you a movie star.
Oh, man.
You can be living a whole different life right now.
Yeah.
Hey,
dude,
he invited me to his house.
It's like,
dude,
I'm not cool.
Talk about this.
Hey,
what do you think about what's happening at our border?
It's a shit show.
Yeah.
I mean,
hopefully the same thing you're thinking about it.
Like,
yeah,
it's a shit show.
And I think we've,
we're already surpassed a point of something's going to happen.
You know,
We've let enough terrorists into this country over the past four years.
That's my biggest word.
Yeah.
It's going to happen.
Again, and then you have to wonder, like, it's not like the government doesn't know this is happening.
Right.
And they're just letting it go.
So, yeah.
It's kind of like they wanted to happen.
Weird, almost.
But you're like, for what reason, though, right?
I mean, obviously for votes.
I mean, that's a big thing.
But now Kamala's running on.
Now she's going to build a ball.
That's crazy.
She took a lot.
like five of Trump's policy.
Yeah, she did.
Trump said he was going to sit up a shirt.
Oh, yeah.
I know.
I was going to call Trump and be like,
listen, dude, stop saying what you're going to do.
She's just copying everything.
But this is crazy.
But I look back at old debates between Democrats and Republicans,
like Nixon and JFK and it was so different back in those days.
It's like nowadays, it's just like we're falling apart.
It's a clown show.
Yeah.
We've lost all professionalism.
Yeah.
And so I think our standards as a country have dropped over the past 15 years.
And I think this is, we're at a point now, like, it's even seeing them like the debates now.
Like, all it is is like a roast fest up there.
They're just like, who's the funniest and who can make fun of each other.
Right, right.
That's who I'm going to vote for.
And then it's like, dude, well, what fucking policies are being talked about?
This shit was crazy for Biden and Trump.
Oh, my gosh.
But did he get out golf truck?
Yeah.
It was like, is this really?
the topic? I did like the one where he, uh, when Trump was like, I don't know what he just said.
I don't think he does either. That was crazy what he said. He set him up for that though.
It's like, well, yeah. Yeah. When Trump said, they said, I don't know what he said and he doesn't
know he did. And then what's crazy about that when he said that Biden didn't say anything. Yeah.
Didn't even catch it. No, because he was in his dementia. I mean, so my dad's going through right now.
like he's battling
dementia
not dementia
Alzheimer's
and he you know
I can see
you know he's progressively
getting worse
but it's that look
same look Biden has
it's their like locked
like I need to figure out
what the fuck is going on
right now
I don't know like
they can't comprehend
anything that's happening
and they get into those little phases
the worse it gets
and then eventually it gets to a point
when they look like that all the time
yeah like Biden it was
I don't know why they had
like a two camera shot
one on Trump
and one on Biden
and he was just sitting
now looking at Trump with his gaze and his eyes were like cocked.
He was like, he wasn't blinking or anything.
I was like, how the fuck does he do that with his eyes?
The deer in the headlights, yeah.
I actually feel sorry for him.
You know, and that's the thing.
It's like, it's probably one of the most worst cases of elderly abuse we've seen.
Yeah.
And they did it to the president, you know, the leader of the country.
And, you know, I blame his wife is, you want him about evil.
Yeah, his wife.
That's who's evil.
It's like the fact that they let them do this to her husband.
like throw this dude on stage.
His wife.
Pump him full of drugs.
Especially his wife.
Yeah.
It's just, yeah.
And you do, like, as much as I'm like, God, just dude is some moron.
I also feel sorry for him, man.
It's like, bro, you got thrust into this and you got Alzheimer's, dude.
Like, that's horrible.
Right up until the point where he stepped down, man, people's like, oh, he's doing a great job.
I'm like, yeah, the liberals, the progressives, the man, he just had a bad night.
I was like, man, that's not a bad night.
Yeah.
And he's, and shit's been.
going on for like a couple years. He's had a bad, bad four years. Yeah, and they say we're members
of a Coke when we're voting for Trump. Oh, I know. It's all that said, that TDS is real.
Yeah. You know, I have relatives like that. I was just with some and I told you, yeah, I told
them it was a family get together and I was like, hey, no politics. I was like, let's just enjoy
ourselves as a family. Like, don't even bring it up. Right. But, you know, it's funny on that side.
They can't help themselves, man. They got to throw something in there. And it's like, as soon as you say,
It's the stupidest thing. It is. It's the dumbest thing. Or like, but as soon as soon as
you say Trump, they're like, like, their face.
And you can see it, I'm like, bro, it's literally, like, true.
Like, you guys have a, like, a syndrome.
Yeah.
Like, you've been manipulated to a point where you can't even think for yourself.
And that's why I mean, like, he was telling me you guys had on some liberal dude,
and, like, talk for three hours.
Oh, on the liberal?
Yeah.
And I'm like.
One of the most intellectually dishonest person I ever spoke to.
But that's what I mean.
It's like, talking to somebody with no logic or reason.
And it's like, I'm like, dude, I'll, I'll, I'll,
try. But then as soon as you start
spitting illogical crap
and I'm like dude, dude, that's conversation's over dude.
That guy said what happened to Trump, he brought
her on himself.
When he got assassinated?
Assented suicide? They said, what he said
that. He actually said that.
Well, yeah, that dude should be locked up.
It's like, well then, well, yeah, it's...
He mocked the firefighter that lost his life there.
He got shot by a straight bullet. Yeah. He actually
went on camera and posted on YouTube.
Yeah, he said the farfarer deserved. Did he say that shit in here?
I didn't say it here.
He said on his side.
I was about to say one of you guys should have reached across
and just put on the table.
I mean, but that's disgusting, though, man.
That is like, you know,
the disgusting part of our society.
Yeah.
They're really,
they'll say some nasty things for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah, I can honestly say if something happened to Joe Biden,
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't be happy over it.
No, I'm not going to cheer over somebody losing their life.
Yeah.
You know.
Assassinated, yeah.
Yeah.
Why would she even?
I just think.
If that happened on the left or the right,
that would start.
like a civil war in this country at this point because we're so divided.
Whether it's Trump getting assassinated or if it was Biden getting assassinated.
Yeah.
And that's what I mean.
Nobody wants to see that.
You know, you can see what happened there.
I'm sure you can wash it over and over.
He's a lucky man.
He's a act of God that he turned his head at that moment because I'm like,
if he had been killed, our country would be in disarray right.
Oh, man.
Oh, yeah.
And that's- It'll be, this country be in trouble right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Especially where I live, like, in the south.
Yeah.
It's, yeah.
People are already on edge, like, waiting for something to happen.
Dude, seriously, if Trump was a assassin, I think I'd pick myself white.
My name would be freaking John Keith Holmes.
I swear to God, dude.
Yeah.
I get my truck and my flag.
I'll be flying a rubber flag.
I'll be in undercover.
You take it too far.
Take it.
Well, you had the general lead.
That's cool.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but people don't know how close we came to like a Civil War when that happened.
I know.
Yeah.
Like the left, they're so oblivious to that.
They are.
Well, they, and they think, like, January 6th was something like, you know, and you're like,
they call it an insurrection.
Yeah.
If that was an insurrection, people, hundreds of people would have died.
Stand by.
Yeah.
You think that was an insurrection.
If something happened to Trump, then it would have been bad.
Yeah.
And those were a bunch of gun nuts on January 6th.
There was no guns there.
No.
They just wanted to protest what was going on.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean.
It got out of hand, but it was an answer.
It got out of hand on both sides.
Yeah.
They had the feds in there fucking amping it up.
Yeah.
So, I mean, it was, yeah, both sides were involved for sure.
But they, you know, they're trying to make something out of it.
They tried to make something out of that.
Yeah, they still talk about January 6th, but the media doesn't talk about what happened in the assassination attempt.
And the crazy thing about when Tucker talked about it, he painted a different side.
One of these guys, the shaman, they actually put him in jail for how many years?
He was going to be in there for five years.
Five years.
And they actually escorted him into the.
Yeah, there's a video of it.
Yeah, he actually prayed, and they threw him in jail for that.
Yeah.
They're still arresting people for that.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
I just know somebody like from a third connection that they just raided their house and took them to jail.
Same thing for people.
Because they were there.
Because they were there.
Yeah, not that they did anything.
They were just there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They'll abuse that power all day long.
Right.
Which is why we started the Pipe-Hitter Foundation.
Well, tell us about that.
So pretty much after we went through what we went through,
which is what's going on is normal now.
Right.
We pretty much, we came out of there.
So a lot of the guys that I met in prison were young kids,
like 19, 20, 21, just enlisted.
And then they made a simple mistake of like,
you know, maybe they went smoke some weed, popped on a piss test,
or showed up late to formation.
or whatever, drunk in public.
But the problem is, in the military, they want to keep their prosecution rates up.
And so when these kids make these small mistakes, the prosecutors will make them into even larger.
So, like, give you an example.
There was a kid that was drunk in public at San Diego Airport, got arrested for it.
NCIS comes.
And they take them away.
They go and raid, not raid, but they go and, like, get all the stuff on the ship, start going through all of his computers.
and see that he Googled Russia at one point.
And then they were like, well, we think you're selling classified information to Russia.
So we're charging you with espionage, which is life also.
This is just from being drunk in public.
They try to make these cases out of nothing.
And he's just one example.
There's a lot more.
So I was telling my wife all about this while I was locked up and like, this place is nuts.
Like I'm seeing mine a curtain.
I didn't know existed.
So we decided we've got to do something about it, especially because we made it through it,
became victorious, which was a lot, you know, it took a lot of work.
So we decided to start the Pipe-Hitter Foundation.
And at first we were like, hey, we're just going to, you know, support active duty in the military.
But then we saw what was going on with the law enforcement, especially after the George Floyd stuff.
I mean, they were just being targeted again.
So we added law enforcement and first responders.
So what we do is if they're being unjustly accused for doing their job, then we step in.
we provide the aid for their legal defense.
So we'll raise money for the legal defense.
We also give them emergency relief funds during that time because it is a stressful time.
And people have no idea just how, like, it can drive a family apart.
It's expensive, too.
It's expensive.
And then we advocate for them as well.
So we use the same route that my brother and wife did.
We'll go, you know, talk to the right people.
I'll go on certain platforms that will actually tell the truth.
and we will just help those individuals that way.
So we've been doing it now since 2020, I think.
And so, yeah, it's been, unfortunately, it's, you know, it's been busy.
We've helped a lot of law enforcement, but now we're actually helping a lot of military again as well.
So, I mean, and then the big thing we want is, like, to get change in the UCMJ,
get some stuff reformed because it's a broken system.
It's archaic.
So, I mean, it's been.
going good. You know, we got a couple cases right now. We got one guy. There was a student that died
in seal training two years ago, Nurn Hell Week. He passed Hell Week and then ended up collapsing
afterwards and died. So they did an investigation and turns out, well, this kid was taking
steroids before and he wasn't the only one. I guess there was other kids in the class that were.
and I think yeah he was taking steroids he had a bunch of other crap in his car that they found
but the mom of this kid went like high and right and just wanted to like she wanted to shut down buds
she was like oh they're torturing people there and my son died she had some connections in
you know politics I think she knew some congressman and so what the Navy did
instead of telling this mother, like, listen, you know, your son was taking steroids.
This is probably, they did an autopsy, an enlarged heart, all those other stuff.
Oh, wow.
They hit all of that.
And they're like, we're going to go ahead and hang out the CO, who's the CEO of Buds to dry,
and then also go out the medical officer who was in charge of examining the Hellweek students as they went through Hellweek.
So we are supporting the medical officer right now.
He is in jeopardy of losing his medical license.
which me, and this guy's been around forever.
He was there when I was in the steel teams.
And so he's in jeopardy losing his medical license.
So it means like he has nothing if he gets out.
So right now we're getting the truth out about what's going on.
And hopefully, you know, the more and more people that get on board and start pressuring the Navy to do the right thing, they will and they will drop these charges.
And also for the CO2, Brad Geary, they're going after him as well.
Wow.
Yeah.
So she just wants somebody to pay.
Yeah, I mean, she's a grieving mother and she's trying to, you know, and that's, it sucks.
I can't imagine how that feels, but at the same time, it's like, hey, you can't just hang two good men out to dry just because your son died.
It's not their fault, you know, right.
Even if the kid wasn't taking steroids and just happened to collapse, it's like that's, it's possible that can happen.
I mean, no weak is they push you to your limits.
Yeah, when I was in boot camp, Rinkgo boot camp, there's people that died at heart attack.
strokes.
It burns out and it gets hot.
I think a couple people
dropped a heat strokes
and he kicked them out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, I mean, that's,
I mean, those are the battles
that we get involved in
because it's like this isn't right.
Yeah.
And all it is is just putting pressure,
trying to put pressure on the Navy
to get them to do the right thing,
which you shouldn't have to do.
Right.
Like, that goes back again to weak leadership.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What else are you working on right now?
So my wife and I founded the nonprofit.
it. So we both work together on that. And then I pretty much run my own business, Gallagher Holdings. I teach
shooting where I'm at. So I have a range right near where I'm at. So I'll teach basic to advanced
shooting classes to civilians, but I also do DOD and law enforcement as well. So I'll help instruct
there. I go out and then consult with law enforcement on a lot of active shooter stuff. I've
I've been going out lately with some,
the law enforcement that actually do protect the schools.
I think they're called like the Guardians or Angels or something.
And that's in Texas.
Do they have that here where there has to be an armed cop at every school?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Okay.
Well, in Texas they do and Florida they do as well.
So what I'll do is gather like a bunch of them up that work in the same community
and sort of go over how to, you know, tactfully like,
clear school and then go over like some of the right and wrong things to do,
how to mitigate risk to themselves, and just to clear properly because what I've seen,
you know, they have about a week of training and it's crazy.
You got used it at training.
It's garbage the way that they're trained.
I mean, and I get it.
They don't have a lot of time to put into these individuals.
So that's where, you know, I'll step in and try and help out that way.
So, yeah, I've been doing a lot of that.
And then also, you know, I run a podcast where I'm out with my buddy, shoot me straight.
Is it on YouTube?
Yeah, it's on every platform.
Do that.
That's more great name.
Shoot me straight.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, yeah, we had no agenda.
We just have people come in, tell their stories.
A lot of it is like just trying to, everybody has a story, you know, and I just try and get out, like, a positive aspect of it.
Like, hey, how did you overcome some adversity in your life?
So hopefully listeners can get something out of that.
My wife and I also started a series once a month on that same podcast.
podcast. It's a truth about transition, but it's about transitioning out of the military.
Oh, okay. I have to always have to put that in there. But yeah, like, you know, just the
struggles that can happen if, you know, after serving for so long. And it's not just for military,
like any service industry, like law enforcement first responders. I think a lot of them struggle
after they have to leave that position. So we talk about what we dealt with and things that helped
out. And we'll also have on people that, you know, have struggled through it as well and have
become successful afterwards.
I ain't they making a movie,
a TV, a show, or a movie
about you, about your life?
Nothing, I don't know. They did, Apple
did a documentary already. Oh, okay.
On the whole thing. Yeah, that's called
the line. Yeah. The line? It's on Apple?
Yep, Apple Plus. It's entertaining.
Yeah. Was it objective?
I'll say this, like,
for as liberal as they are, they get a good job.
It's still like
they, it's definitely more swaying.
towards I'm an asshole, you know, but I thought.
Which you have to be.
Like, it's, well, it's more like, so what they, when they came to us, they were like,
hey, we want to make this documentary about the whole thing.
And we're like, at first we were like, hell no.
I'm not, you know, we're not inviting you into this, you know, into our house because
we already know, like, how you look at us, right?
Right.
But eventually, you know, I had talked to my lawyer and I was like, what do you think?
And he's like, well, he's like, give them, let's give them everything.
Like we gave them all the documents all like here's all the proof of that I'm innocent and here's all the corrupt stuff that they pulled.
So we gave them that and we're like, hey, we just ask you to do your due diligence and actually look at this.
So I think they did, but of course it's Apple.
So they made it like a who done it.
You know, like did he really do this?
Did he not?
Wow.
And then they went and interviewed some random Iraqi at the end that was supposed to be the fucking kid's dad.
Right, right.
And, like, you know, you're supposed to be heartfelt for this poor ISIS fighter, you know.
Right.
That was thrust into ISIS and it wasn't his fault.
It's, you know, but I think it's actually entertaining.
They did a good job.
And they actually, I mean, what I liked about it the most is they did a whole segment on my wife.
And, bro, it was badass just seeing like, yeah.
Yeah, they had the secretary of the Navy got fired over my whole thing.
Right.
Yeah.
And they interviewed him.
And on there, I mean, it's my favorite part.
is when he's like going up against
Andrew Gallagher was like going up against
Mike Tyson with one hand tied behind your back
she freaking like
yeah so it's said that huh yeah and I'm like
that's all it matters to me you know I was like you can shit
on me all you want I'm like but yeah yeah
yeah it was good yeah we'll see but I mean I think a movie
would be cool um I mean there's I don't you know
I gave you guys this book
um like and the cool thing about this book is when you're reading
through it because they pulled so much corrupt
and deceitful shit
that you
Like when I was writing it, I'm like, dude, nobody's going to believe this.
So what I did is I put QR codes in the book.
So as you're reading it and you're like, no way.
You can click on that QR code.
And it has all the interviews.
It has the trial audio.
It has everything in there.
Like we didn't hide anything.
So I'm like, there it is.
Like make the decision for yourself.
But I think it actually read your book and come to your own conclusion.
Yes.
Yeah.
For sure.
And that's the way I wanted to write it, you know, because only an innocent man would do that.
Yeah.
Well, you know, the saying it's like, oh, there's two size to every.
story and then somewhere the truce in there somewhere i'm like no man like here it is dude like
and yeah you here's unedited fucking videos of them lying and also here's all the stuff they said on
trial so you now these people that were caught lying did anything happen to them no no no really no
no it was the opposite so just like everything else in our society they got instead of being held
accountable for lying and being deceitful and they actually got promoted and raised as heroes for
stay up.
They're like, and it's all the left, you know.
So yeah, most of them, yeah, nothing happened.
I think supposedly Joe Warpinski got fired, but I don't believe it.
That's what we were told.
The secretary of the Navy got relieved.
That was actually, it's a pretty badass story.
Yeah.
So it was, I hadn't gotten out yet.
The trial was over, and they were still coming after me.
They were trying to crush me at every angle before I got out because we had defeated them in court.
So at one point they were like, oh, we're going to take your trident now.
Like you're going to get out, but you're not going to be a seal, right?
And then Trump actually tweeted was like, you're not taking his trident, like get back to work.
But I was pretty pissed off.
And Fox had invited me to come on in the morning.
And usually I wouldn't have done it.
I'm like, but I was like, yeah, I'm coming on because I was sick of it.
So I flew out there.
And my lawyers were like, don't say anything crazy.
like don't drop people's names like they can still come after you well i got in there and pete head seth
was there and he's like hey i just talked to the big man which was trump he's like he said let it fly
everything oh yeah so i was like all right and so i went on there and i was like this person did this
this person did this and i actually had proof of the secretary of navy was meddling in my case
while i was locked up trying to get people not to support me that's why he got relieved and literally
on the flight back he got relieved when i was flying back i got my layover i looked up in the news and
He's gone.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I mean, it was, that is one person, I guess, that was held accountable.
But everybody below that, not really.
Yeah.
You know, if that's, that's also been a theme of this whole administration.
There's no accountability.
Yeah.
Right.
If Trump's not in office, do you think you have the happy inning, so to speak, that you have?
Or no?
Not.
I don't think so.
It's hard to tell, man.
You would probably just tick longer.
Yeah.
for sure. You know, Trump, when he was in, before I went to trial, there was two other service members that were being charged with some war crime stuff.
With taking pictures?
It was one of them killed a Green Beret had killed a, I think it was a Taliban dude that was planting IDs.
So they're trying to go after him.
And then there was an army lieutenant that was charged with killing a Taliban fighter, but he was already in Leavenworth for a while already.
And what Trump did is he pardoned both of them.
So they actually charged these people for killing terrorists?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That is nuts.
It happens.
They didn't kill them right.
Yeah.
I mean, you guys had on Eric Prince, right?
He told you about the massacre there.
And we actually, so through our foundation, those guys got pardoned before Trump got out.
Before Trump left, he pardoned them and got them out.
And then we got pretty much set them up, like, paid off all their legal fees because they were in debt.
Yeah.
So we helped them out.
But, I mean, that shit's been going on for a while now.
You know, yeah, if they want to target you, and that's what people don't understand.
And I don't expect people to understand it because it's almost like until it happens to you, there's like no way they would do that.
Yes, they would.
And they, you know, when it does happen, it's like it doesn't matter you being innocent or being guilty.
It doesn't matter at that point.
It's whatever.
They just want the win.
Right.
And that's all that matters.
So.
So where can people find you?
So I'm on, I have a website, the eddygalliger.com.
Can't stand that I have the, because eddygallagher.com was taken, so I had to throw that in there.
But yeah, it's the eddygallagher.com.
It has, you know, everything that I'm doing right now, you know, all the training, the consulting.
And then I have the, you know, the F-AFO shirts and hats and everything.
And then we also have for our foundation, the PipeHitter Foundation.org.
you can go on there.
You can see everybody that we're supporting.
We have everybody that we're supporting right now in their story and why we're supporting them.
So you can donate to those people if you want, or you can just donate to Pipe Hitter in general.
And that money will go to where it's supposed to go.
We don't take anything.
Actually, I'll go ahead and plug this too.
We're actually going to throw our first fundraiser here, October 12th out in Florida,
at Defuniac Springs, the range I work at.
We're going to have a bunch of my teammates are going to come and help me instruct.
We're going to have an old day of shooting, CQC, make it real fun,
and then have an awesome dinner that night.
We had guest speaker, Bernie Carrick.
You guys know who he is?
I think so.
Yeah, he was a police commissioner in New York during 9-11.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Freaking Super Patriot, just awesome guy.
So he'll be a guest speaker there.
But that is going to be our first fundraiser, really.
We haven't, everything we've done to this point has been reactionary.
So, I mean, you know, it does, it does, you know, work, but it's, we definitely need to get some funds in there so we can help these individuals out that we support right away instead of just doing a reactionary thing.
We put all your links in the bottom of these people.
I appreciate that, yeah.
So, yeah, that's what I got going on on Instagram, just Eddie, Eddie underscore Gallagher on Instagram.
I'm on there, so.
Okay.
Hey, Eddie, it's been a pleasure.
Dude, it was awesome being here, man.
Yeah.
Love what you guys are doing.
Seriously.
No, I think this has been a great conversation.
Yeah, you're a real good dude, I can tell you.
You're a real good dude.
Same, man.
Likewise, dude.
Yeah, it's been real fun here, man.
I appreciate you guys having me down here in Vegas.
Yeah.
Yeah.
