Hot Smart Rich with Maggie Sellers Reum - How Paris Hilton Pioneered the $250B Creator Industry and Who She Really is When The Cameras Go Down (A Side She’s Never Shared Before)

Starting point is 00:00:00 Paris Hilton, are you ready to get a hot smart rich? Yes. For us for family. I know exactly what I want. You don't feel safe or supported. You're not going to be able to live up to your biggest potential. The media is so cruel, especially to women. What did that teach you about yourself now that you're on the other side of it?

Starting point is 00:00:16 I can tell just by looking into one eyes, if I could trust them or not. I was born to be an entrepreneur. I take care of my skin like an Olympic athlete. I've always been like a tomboy at heart. People don't know that side of me unless they really know me. It's so much fun. It's very freeing. The $250 billion creator economy, you started.

Starting point is 00:00:34 I had no idea that I would be testifying in Congress and passing legislation, really elevating women's stories that need to be heard. I want to be remembered for my heart and my kindness. I'm extremely proud of what I've created. This was so much fun. Thank you, sis. Love you. In case you missed it, you're allowed to be hot, smart, and rich. So let's get into it.

Starting point is 00:01:07 Hilton, are you ready to get Hot Smart Rich? Yes. I feel like you are the queen of Hot Smart Rich. I can't believe you're here. Thank you so much for doing this. Of course, for family. So by the time this comes out, we are literally going to be family. Okay, you have so many iconic looks and different styles.

Starting point is 00:01:24 How do you decide what you're going to wear every single day? I'm all about like vibes, themes. Like, I have so many different styles. So it depends what I'm doing. Like if I'm going to D.C. and I'm speaking on Capitol Hill. I love being like, not legally blonde vibes, but kind of like advocacy Barbie vibes,

Starting point is 00:01:45 but like very chic, elegant. Like today I was going for like sister vibes. So I thought this violet, like pretty like hot housewife vibe. Yeah. And then if I'm like chilling at home, I'm just like in like when you see me, like a track suit, socks, my like eye patches because I love my skincare. And then if I'm performing, I love like pop star Barbie vibes.

Starting point is 00:02:11 So it's so fun because I wear so many different hats, like with all the different businesses that I'm involved in and that I do in my life. So I can just always dress for the occasion. I feel like this is the first time I was saying that I'm seeing you in like Paris Hilton mode, which is so cool because I usually see you in sweats. And like you're always barefaced and you're not doing glam. And so it's so cool to be able to see this different character of you. I think because, yeah, like my mom.

Starting point is 00:02:36 natural is just me being at home, being a mom. So that's like my most chill. And then I've always been like a naturally like shy person. So I think almost dressing up and being in a character, it makes me less shy because I'm like, oh, that's like my more playful fun side. What does it feel like for you you when you go undercover in your black wig, your hat and your sunglasses? It's so much fun. It's like very freeing because I'm so used to when I go places, like as soon as I walk in, just people immediately recognize me. So it's hard to really just like, I don't know, be yourself or do like, yeah, like go to Disneyland or just walk and, you know, like the flea market on Melrose or do things like that without making a huge scene. So it's nice just to like totally be undercover and just be able to like

Starting point is 00:03:23 walk around and like observe and go on adventures and just kind of just be normal. It's like one of my favorite things to do. I love that on the weekends. Was there ever a place that you went undercover that people should have recognized you and didn't? I feel like people always will somehow they like realize it's me. But I think one of the times that I was very surprised was when I was in Dubai, I was doing my show called Paris Hilton's, my new BFF, and I wanted to go to the big mall. So the stylist was like, okay, you couldn't see anything, only just like sunglasses, basically. And I don't know how, but people were just like, is that Paris Hilton? And they just knew it was me. That's crazy. They said they could feel the energy and the vibe.

Starting point is 00:04:08 That is crazy. But I feel like you do have that aura about you. And I think that's why I'm so excited about this interview. Because normally when people interview, you're in Paris Hilton mode. And we are going to be family by the time this comes out. You have been married to Arem for five years, almost. Yes. What is your biggest piece of advice as I now am just going to be married to Aene? My biggest piece of advice is just to always be best friends because they are so. kind, so sweet, like so lovely.

Starting point is 00:04:39 They have such amazing family values. They're so close with their mom. I know. It's like amazing just to see like how close, the whole family. Like it's so cute to be prepared for a lot of activities because these reams. They love their sports, the tennis, the volleyball, the week surfing. Wigsurfing. Jet skiing, water skiing, skiing, snowboarding.

Starting point is 00:05:03 It was like our first couple weeks of dating. and he invited me home for Christmas to Michigan. And I thought it was just going to be like a chill vacation. And they're like, all right, we're getting up at 9 a.m. We're going to go play tennis. Then we're going to go skiing down the mountain and go like make snowmen and like do this, play basketball. And like, I'm like, what?

Starting point is 00:05:23 And then go in the water and do this ice polar bear challenge thing. And I'm like, um, okay. And I'm like pretending I like like all these things in my mind. I'm like, oh my God. This is so much. I'm so tired. But you do it so well. I think that's also something that people don't know about you.

Starting point is 00:05:39 You are actually very athletic. Like you ski extremely well. Like you're wake surfing. Like you actually are down for it, which I feel like is part of why you and Carter make such a good teams. Yeah, I've always been like a tomboy at heart. A lot of people don't know that side of me unless they really know me. So I do love it all, but it is a lot.

Starting point is 00:05:57 I'm not used to doing every single sport in one day. But it's fun. So I'm just saying be prepared for a lot of that. I'm sure you've seen it already. Yeah. So that and just supporting each other and I see you guys doing that already. So I feel like I don't even need to give you advice from that because you just like, I feel like you guys are meant to be like I really believe that you guys are soulmates.

Starting point is 00:06:17 Oh, I love you. And twin flames. I think so too. Like it is so, you know, you can't choose the family that you're going to enter into. And I think for you, I was always so interested. Like when a new person comes into your life, you've been obviously around so many people. Like you don't know what people's intentions are. like what is it like for you when someone new comes into the family or comes into your circle?

Starting point is 00:06:38 Yeah. I have grown up in this town, so I've seen a lot. And I feel like I can read people very well. Like I have seen it all. So I can like tell just by like looking in someone eyes, like what type of person they are. And if I could trust them or not. So I was very happy the first time I met you. I was like, she's so beautiful. She's so smart. She's just like perfect for Courtney. I could just like see how happy and excited he was. I'd never had seen him like that. And you guys just like click so well together. And I think that's amazing when you can find someone where you guys are just like a team and you guys lift each other up and support each other. And I think that's really beautiful to see. And I'm just happy to have you as part of the family.

Starting point is 00:07:23 I'm so excited. We have such a unique family. Everyone adds something so important and magical and You almost can't really describe it. You and Carter are the ultimate power couple. How do you guys best collaborate? It's so important, like, who you end up marrying, who is your partner, and how you will be in life through everything. Because if you're in a bad relationship and you don't feel safe or supported, like you're not going to be able to live up to your biggest potential. I love that we both just support each other with everything that we do. and we're just like teammates, best friends.

Starting point is 00:08:00 We always have fun no matter where we are, what we're doing. And I love that he is so interested in everything I do. He's always there, no matter what I'm doing, if I'm in D.C. for my advocacy work. If I'm on stage being a pop star, he's always front row. It's just being my biggest cheerleader and just like making me smile and so happy. And then any time that he has something that's important for his business, business. I'm always there to support him and just always being by each other's side. And he's so smart. So I love that I can learn so much from him. Like I always am asking for advice. And I feel like

Starting point is 00:08:39 I give him good advice too because we both are experts in different areas. So many women feel like they have to choose one or the other. When you decided that you wanted to have kids, I saw in 2017, you said to time, I'm ready for the next thing. I don't want to stop being a business woman, but I do want to be a mother. Do you think it's possible to have it all? Definitely. I think I'm living proof of that. Yeah. How do you think now that you are a mom, it has changed your relationship with yourself and with your career? Motherhood has just been the most incredible experience of my life. I just feel so happy, so at peace. My life is finally complete. And it's really just taught me just how important time is. like it has to make it worth my time. Before I was married, I was traveling over 250 days out of the year

Starting point is 00:09:30 for two decades. And it was a lot. So now that I have a family, I just want to be with my babies as much as I can. So I will only say yes to things that are meaningful, things that make a difference, or they're iconic. One of the things I love about you when I was literally thinking about this and I was making the seating chart for the wedding is I was like, when we were in Michigan, again, like halfway through the dinner, you would like sneak out of the adults table and go to the kids table and just sit with your babies. And it's little things like that, just getting to watch you as a mom, you would rather be with your kids every single second that you get versus being at the adults table. And I think that just speaks so much to when you have the time. You are with them 24-7, which people like don't actually know. What Paris do you think that

Starting point is 00:10:19 Lundy and Fieny see? The real. P. Just me, this living mom, they see the one that is fun and I'm just such a kid at heart. We have the best time with each other. I just feel like I'm living my childhood again with them. We love watching cartoons in bed. I've seen Moana like 500 times. Thank God I created my cartoon Paris and Pups because that's our new favorite cartoon. So it's so fun just to see the world through their eyes again. Like this weekend, we were just in my room. We're packing up everything for the new house and watching this simple life together. And the kids are just looking up like, Mama, Mama, the cow.

Starting point is 00:11:04 And just like laughing. So it's so fun. Was you like putting your hand into the cow's bag? That was Nicole. Oh, was it? Yeah. They were scared at that part. The cow was screaming.

Starting point is 00:11:13 Oh, my God. But it's just so fun. It's just like seeing the world again through their eyes, just the excitement and wonder. And they're just the sweetest, cutest, cutest. babies in the world. Okay, let's go back to before you were Paris Hilton. 50 million people identify as a creator as their full-time job now. You literally started that industry. The 250 billion dollar creator economy, you started. Was there ever a moment where you were like, whoa, this is now a business? I think that moment I realized that it was right when I got back from shooting the simple life. It was like

Starting point is 00:11:52 2003. And I just remember walking into this club one night and the entire room was just like looking back at me. Everyone was like pulling out their flip phones. And then I went outside. There's just so many paparazzi going crazy. And then I just started seeing people like wearing that's hot shirts, like saying my catchphrases, getting chased through airports by paparazzi. It was just, it just turned into like this whole thing. And then when I released my first perfume and had my first appearance and just there was thousands and thousands of people there. And I just realized like, wow, I can actually parlay this into building a brand and

Starting point is 00:12:43 creating a business around it. And it's just crazy now today that I just released my 30th fragrance. called iconic, which you have here, loves it. So good. I wear it all the time. When I, like, need to channel my character, like, putting on a good face and, like, going out there and facing the world, like, I literally wear this. Oh, I love that.

Starting point is 00:13:04 At that time, though, did you already start identifying as an entrepreneur? Or were you just, like, oh, things are starting and I'm being noticed, but did you be like, I am an entrepreneur and, like, I am a businesswoman back then? I've always been that way ever since I was a little girl. I think I got my first taste for business, I guess. Back when I was a little girl, we would live in the Malibu colony every summer. And my sister and I would like do lemonade stands. And then I would like make jewelry and like sell like little things like literally outside the front of my house.

Starting point is 00:13:36 Like seven years old. So I feel like I was always like born to be an entrepreneur. And I was extremely close with my grandfather. And he was my business mentor. And I just looked up to him so. much and I would always just ask him for advice when I was with my grandfather one night and it's like I'm so proud of you. He worked harder than any CEO that I know and I just think it's incredible like what you've done and what you've accomplished and you know I used to be known as Baron Hilton and now

Starting point is 00:14:08 I'm known as Paris Hilton's grandpa and we were laughing and that was something that I'll never forget because you know looking up to someone your whole life and then having them say something like that to you it's just a very surreal moment. Yeah. So it's just been, it's been an incredible journey. And I'm just extremely proud of what I've created. You should be. It's honestly, if I think about just how many people identify with it being a creator now,

Starting point is 00:14:34 just to know that you started that. And you still have a vision that we'll get into in a little bit of like where it's going to go, which I'm so excited to talk about. Yeah, it always just blows my mind just to see what it's turned into today. Because when I was doing it, I was so ahead of. my time always, that there wasn't even a name for it yet, but I was already doing it. And now just to see that it's become like an entire like job basically. I think it's pretty incredible that anybody could really create their own personal brand and make their dreams come true. You have been so

Starting point is 00:15:08 ahead of your time. And with that, you've had to face a lot of people that have like really misunderstood you. When now as a creator, I think anybody that chooses this as a profession, you know you are going to be misunderstood by people. But back then, like, you were misunderstood by so many people. What did that teach you about yourself now that you're on the other side of it? It's taught me how strong I am, especially, you know, growing up in the 2000s, just because the media was just so cruel, especially to women. So I've been through a lot and been underestimated. And I can understand why. know, with the simple life, creating that character of the dumb blonde.

Starting point is 00:15:53 And some people didn't understand that that was just, you know, it was for a show. And it was a character that I created and almost like a shield in a way as well. Just from going through trauma as a teenager, I think I just kind of like built this kind of like protective shield to protect me. And then got the simple life and then it became the show. And then I had to continue doing this character season after season. And so I think a lot of people, if they didn't really know me, they wouldn't understand that there was so much more to me. Another thing about being underestimated is it also gave me that, like, fuel to show people

Starting point is 00:16:33 that they were wrong. And that's one of my favorite things about being underestimated is proving people wrong. Being underestimated, you are a chart-topping artist, a best-selling author, the highest-paid female DJ, an award-womening filmmaker, philanthropist, a serial. entrepreneur behind $4 billion of retail products, you've done more than most people could ever want to do in a lifetime. But I think what's so cool to watch talking about this character is like, you almost become a third character when you talk about impact work that you do. I saw it a little bit last week when I was like, I'm taking Courtney to my school and you were like, you went into your character

Starting point is 00:17:11 mode of being this like bad bitch, protective, assertive, like, I didn't have a great experience in my school and just seeing that side of you, I would love for people to know what happens to you on a personal level when you dig into that impact side of what you do. It's been the most meaningful work of my life, you know, just to be the hero that I needed when I was a little girl, to be a voice for millions of children who are voiceless, to make real impact and real change and really turn pain into a purpose. I feel that everything in life happens for a reason and I feel that God, gave me this special gift and one day I would use my voice to make a difference in so many people's lives. Just when I do this work, it really comes from my heart and just knowing that I'm standing up

Starting point is 00:17:58 for all these kids who really need it. I'm just so proud of everything that has happened since I really sort of using my voice to make a difference. Most people when they think of Paris Hilton's businesses and $4 billion worth of retail sales, they would think, think, oh, naturally she's hiring commercial people or revenue driving people, but your second hire at 1111 was literally the head of impact, Rebecca. Why was that decision to hire an impact role more important to you than a revenue generating role when you were thinking about that building 1111? So with 1111, I wanted everything that I do there to lead back to impact and making a difference. When I was releasing my documentary, This is Paris back in 2020, I just thought it had such an

Starting point is 00:18:48 important message, and I wanted somebody to help me get that message out there and to work with me and going to D.C. and pushing for legislation and laws to protect children. So I was so just excited when I met Becca, and she's just been such an important part in my life and in just all of this incredible work that we're doing together. I had no idea that I would be literally, you know, speaking on Capitol Hill and testifying on Congress and passing legislation. It's just, it's really amazing, like the power in using your voice and telling your truth. I'm so grateful for her, just for being by my side and standing with me. And it's been a very emotional journey because it's difficult to go and speak in front of these senators and legislators

Starting point is 00:19:46 about things that are so personal and painful. But to know that it's going to stop it from happening to others is just been the most empowering experience of my life. You guys have done so much incredible work since she joined you, including passing 14 state laws and a bipartisan federal bill that you passed with U.S. Congress, the Stop Institutional Child Abuse Act. What did that moment feel like when that bill passed? It was just a dream come true. I just remember when I heard that just like bursting into tears, me and Rebecca, like hugging each other like, we did it. And just it just felt incredible. It's just to celebrate something that is so meaningful and really is going to not only change lives but save lives.

Starting point is 00:20:38 There's so much more to do, but the fact that people are listening and this is something that has been around since like the 1960s and nothing has been done to protect these children until now. When I did my documentary, I had no idea that something like this

Starting point is 00:20:56 would come from that. It's just been amazing how it's really just started this movement and for so many people and survivors who have been through this, come forward and tell their stories and finally feel safe and able to tell their truth. And it's been the most healing experience of my life as well. I feel like I see that side of you so much like when the LA fires were happening and we

Starting point is 00:21:16 were all evacuated at the hotel. Like it was so cool to watch you behind the scenes like in your sweatpants literally meeting with so many people as your house is burning down. Is there another character of you that comes to life? That's just the real Paris. That's like who I am at my core and just the type of person that I am. Like the character that everyone else sees is like the one on the red carpet or the more glamorous fun side. I feel like I'm here to bring happiness and sparkle and joy to the world.

Starting point is 00:21:46 That's what I feel like I was meant to do. I like love getting to watch that side of you. I also love getting to use pair V because it is the thing that has cured my tech neck from looking down so much. And I feel like people need to know that when you're not in glam, you wear zero makeup and you wear eye patches 24-7 in pairs. Evan and Perevy. Yes. What is your current skin care routine? It's been incredible to seeing everyone's skin journeys online and with all the clinical

Starting point is 00:22:11 studies we did with these women. And just to make products that really work, like formulas that are backed by science and really creating this entire brand from the ground up for the past three years and to see it all come to life. And I am obsessed with every product, like the infinite youth technology. is insane. My skin has never looked better. I am so excited for all the other new products that we're making.

Starting point is 00:22:42 But my skincare routine is, of course, my cleanser. Then my Infinite Youth serum, my moisturizers, the neck. The neck cream, which is incredible for your neck. And the declatage, the moisturizers, the night and the day one. You have the most successful celebrity fragrance line of all time with $3 billion in retail sales over the last decade. Why would you go deeper into beauty now with Paravy? With ParraVee, I really wanted to create something that was mine.

Starting point is 00:23:14 I feel like I've been in this industry for a long time. I've 20 different product lines, done so many licensing deals. I've made these companies billions of dollars. And now I wanted to have ownership of something that I created from the ground up, something that I'm a majority stakeholder in. This is the first time that I've done that with any of my product lines. That's something because I am so passionate about skincare, about wellness, longevity, about bringing people products that make them happier, more confidence,

Starting point is 00:23:51 feel better in their skin, and what better way than doing it through skincare, and creating products that make people feel their best, where then they can go out into the world and feel confident and good in their skin and be preventative as well. I think it's so important to start at a young age, just the importance of skincare and staying out of the sun and moisturizing and learning all of that. And also it's like a ritual. I think self-care is so important for yourself, for your mental wellness and just that ritual for, you know, the moms out there as well. So at night when it's like their time, they can have their skincare ritual and just feel like loving it. Just every part of it.

Starting point is 00:24:36 Just everything from the packaging and just seeing these beautiful pink bottles that are just like the shapes of them, the style. Like I love the moisturizer as like this like star on it that's like the sparkle from my branding. And it just turned out so beautiful. So I just love that people can like display it, look at it, use it and feel. amazing in their skin. The packaging, all of it is designed by myself and my team and the laboratory that we work with. Okay, that's what I really want people to know, because I will have this memory of you forever. Like, we were watching Super Bowl last year together, and you were making a mood board. And I was like, wow, this is the most beautiful creative process that people need to understand

Starting point is 00:25:21 about what you do. What is your creative process when you're designing something like the packaging? I'm a very visual person and I love like before Pinterest like existed, I think I was just like making my own Pinterest boards like on the floor at my house. Like I always like cutting up magazines, photos, going online, printing things out, just thinking of like textures, colors. I'll be just inspired by anything like, oh, like my car with like the holographic wrap on it. Like I want that kind of vibe. But on here with pink. So just kind of, I don't. no, I just will see things and just like take certain elements from it and then start creating

Starting point is 00:26:03 these mood boards, which are like huge poster boards. I have the glue and scissors. I'm like cutting things out, making collages and just so I can kind of show people what I'm talking about. So anytime I'm doing a new product line or if I have a new design that I'm doing for whatever, like a costume that I want to have made or a clothing line that I'm doing or purses, whatever design I'm doing for a product. I always love just like putting together the exact mood board of like what I want it to be, what the aesthetic is, and then bring it all to life. And now with AI, it's even more fun because I'm able to do that and take photos of my mood boards, then put it in the AI and then just create anything that my mind can come up with with it.

Starting point is 00:26:48 So it just like really accelerates the process as well. I love that you actually made your branding so unique and so Paris Hilton. it's not just like another white bottle with a black logo on a shelf. Can you just talk people through your design process of the products? Let's be honest, the world doesn't need another white bottle with the black font on it. It's boring. This is completely different because this is something.

Starting point is 00:27:12 It is my baby like from building it literally from the ground up the past over three years and coming up with every single thing, the bottle design, just the colors we're going to use. the texture, how it feels, the scent. Like I was obsessive about it, like hyper-focused on every single detail, going back and forth with the laboratories. Some of the products I went iterations, maybe like 17 of them, just going back and forth with every texture I wanted it just to be perfect and have real results.

Starting point is 00:27:47 So this, it was a long process. Like it took a long time. I know exactly what I want. I have been obsessed with skincare. my whole life. My mom taught me a skin care routine at eight years old. I've tried everything I've been all around the world, every incredible spa, every, you know, world renowned, esthetician, facialist. Like, I'm obsessed. I take care of my skin like an Olympic athlete. And I've learned everything about it. So I just, I know what works. I know what doesn't. I know what I want.

Starting point is 00:28:19 And I wanted to make something for, not only for myself, but for the world and something that would help just millions of women and men around the world who want to have slitting skin. I feel like you've always known what you want and who you are, even when other people didn't first see your vision. Kathy recently mentioned that you and Nikki weren't initially on board with her doing the Real Housewives and now you love it. Has there been a business that you've wanted to launch that initially your parents didn't see and now that they love? With the simple life, when Fox called and said we want Paris to do this reality show, they actually. They actually actually asked my sister and I to do it.

Starting point is 00:28:57 And Nikki right away was like, no, hell no, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing a reality show. And my mom was like, I don't think it's a good idea and was trying to convince me not to do it. But just like how I always am, I was like, I'm going to do what I want. So I did it. And then the night after it aired, my mom called me the next morning and was like, you know what, I'm never wrong, but I was wrong about that.

Starting point is 00:29:21 Like, the show is incredible. You and Nicole are so hilarious. I love it so much. I'm so proud of you. So, yeah, that was the one time that she said that she was wrong. And now she's just like, anything you say, she's like, yep, like Paris knows. Yeah, she knows. Okay, that was very in front of the camera.

Starting point is 00:29:41 But now you're doing a lot of stuff behind the camera. So you launched your podcast, my friend Daisy, as an executive producer. You're working on your new hotel chain. Paris and Pups just announced you're doing a TV adaptation of Paris with Dakota and L. Fanning. Should audiences expect you to take a more behind the scenes role in all of your new business endeavors? I love doing both. I love to be on camera. It's so much fun.

Starting point is 00:30:07 But I also love now that I can create projects that I don't always have to be on camera. So I can be behind the scenes, helping produce, helping come up with creative. With my friend Daisy, I'm so proud of that, just really elevating people's voices. and especially women's stories that need to be heard. That one I'm very proud of. And now with Paris and Pups, I'm obsessed with cartoons with my puppies, and it's always been a show that I've wanted to do

Starting point is 00:30:39 something with me and my dogs. And Paris and Pups has been such a fun project. And just being in the studio, recording the soundtrack for it a couple weeks ago. It's so cute. I can't get that song out of my head. I couldn't sleep last. night because I kept singing it in my head. It's so fun to create something that I can enjoy with my kids.

Starting point is 00:31:00 Since I've grown up in hotels my entire life, it's another thing I'm really proud to follow my family's footsteps and create my own properties. Again, I've been to the most beautiful hotels all around the world, so I know what I want in a hotel and I know something that's going to make it special, fun, iconic, and beautiful and all the things. Okay, but fans don't want you to go totally behind the camera because we're obsessed with the in front of the camera of Harris too. With your music documentary that's coming out in January, 2026, what can fans expect that's different from your last documentary?

Starting point is 00:31:41 The last documentary was more just showing the person behind the character and just talking about what I went through with my experiences as a teen. teenager and now this new documentary called Infinite Icon basically I've had a camera crew following me for the past year and a half just the whole process of like all the behind the scenes getting ready for my concerts all of the rehearsals with everyone but then also diving back into just everything just from the early 2000s I went into my vault and got all of my old computers and hard and videotapes and just so much footage that no one has ever seen before. And really just weaving that in and telling the story of my life

Starting point is 00:32:32 and how music has just really shaped my life in so many ways and how it's so meaningful to me and how it's just been so healing. Now I can connect with my fans as well on such a deeper level through the music. Yeah. And just tell the story of my life. Are we ever going to get to see you on Paris in Love Season 3 as a mom? They keep asking us when we're going to start again. My schedule has been so insane.

Starting point is 00:33:04 And I was focusing on this music documentary. So I'm trying to think. I would be obsessed. It's so fun. But it's very time-consuming. And I love also just living life not always like on a reality show. You know what I mean? What was it like bringing the cameras to Traverse City?

Starting point is 00:33:26 Interesting. It was fun. I love Traverse City. I like it more now having a family. Yeah. Like I always loved it. It's so cute. It's so fun.

Starting point is 00:33:35 Like I love being on the lake. I love the little town. I love the people. But now that I'm a mom and I'm a wife, like I have no FOMO so it's not like, oh, I'm missing this thing in L.A. Like I don't even care about any of that anymore because I just love making all these memories with the family.

Starting point is 00:33:49 Yeah. It's so cute to seeing all the cousins together. and everyone growing up together just being on the lake with the little babies, like playing on the sand. And Carter is so happy there. So I love it. I'm so excited because like I feel like Courtney like steals the nieces and nephews so much because he just like wants kids of his own so badly that I'm like,

Starting point is 00:34:10 I can't wait for us to bring brunette children into the mix because everyone is like so blonde. Okay. I have to ask because I'm obsessed with Walt Disney. that is my favorite person ever, like my biggest inspiration. You just told CNBC that you're building the next Disney. What does that actually look like in practice? Building an ecosystem that connects content, community, and commerce, just like Disney did, and creating IP and franchises that can live across different worlds,

Starting point is 00:34:40 whether it's through television, audio, video, podcasting, music, the metaverse, and beyond. and just creating magical moments and memories for people. And I'm the Mickey Mouse of the Disney and then building like a whole world around it that's living. A hot, smart, rich Mickey Mouse. Exactly. Now that you've accomplished so much, what do you want to be remembered for?

Starting point is 00:35:09 I want to be remembered for my heart and my kindness and that I'm someone who brought some sparkle to this world and use my platform for good and to make the planet a happier, more fun, pink place. But, yeah, for real, I was talking with Carter about that the other day that I hope people remember me being iconic, not for the glamour or beauty or anything like that, but more for what I've done to use my voice to make a difference for others, because I think that's the most important thing that you can do. I love that. I think you're doing a great job of that. Thank you, sis. Okay, we're going to end with some fun rapid fire. You can only pick one for the

Starting point is 00:35:55 rest of your life. Okay. Okay, Taco Bell, Domino's or DQ? Oh, Taco Bell. I knew you were going to say Taco Bell. I love it. Okay, heels or flats? Oh, man. I can't imagine wearing like flats always. I love flats, but like with a cute. dress, heels. Yeah. Okay, eye patches or ice rolling? Eye patches. Okay, this one's hard for you.

Starting point is 00:36:26 Christmas or Easter decorations? I love both, but Christmas. Spray tans or manicures? Spray tans. Beach or ski vacations? Beach. Night in or night out? Night in.

Starting point is 00:36:43 Night in? Okay, Paris Hilton. Thank you so much for getting hot smart rich with us today. You are literally the OG hot smart rich girl. We are so grateful you shared your story and I hope many more to come. And thank you for being the warmest welcome to this family. And I can't wait to see where our lives look like in like five years. I love you. Love you. This was so much fun.

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