Hot Smart Rich with Maggie Sellers Reum - Molly Sims: I Made My Own Money So No Man Could Ever Choose For Me!

Episode Date: June 3, 2026

Model, presenter and YSE Beauty founder, Molly Sims,  joins Maggie Sellers Reum on Hot Smart Rich to talk Sports Illustrated, freezing embryos, prenups, anti-aging, and why women should never settle for less than the life they actually want. Molly shares her journey from Vanderbilt pre-law student to 90s model, taking every job she could while being told she was too commercial, too blonde and not “editorial” enough. After years of showing up, she went on to land Vogue Paris, Victoria’s Secret and Sports Illustrated - proving that sometimes the “no” is just the beginning of the next “yes”!  Molly also opens up about the fertility decision she made before it was mainstream, the money lessons her mother taught her, and why she built YSE Beauty for women who wanted clinical skincare that actually worked without making them feel old.  Get unselfish access to the insights that will help you own the room. Sign up now https://linkly.link/2jPXJ Timestamps: (00:00:00) Intro (00:01:40) What Viewers Will Learn (00:02:14) Vanderbilt Law To Modelling (00:05:16) Surviving 90s Modelling (00:08:17) Turning No Into Yes (00:10:47) Vogue And Victoria’s Secret (00:15:26) Becoming Molly Sims (00:18:13) Modelling After Motherhood (00:20:33) Money Lessons From Mom (00:25:33) Ollie Ad (00:27:14) Freezing Embryos At 37 (00:32:46) Stop Settling For Less! (00:37:23) Negotiating A Prenup (00:40:54) Let Kids See You Work! (00:44:03) Can Women Have It All? (00:45:33) YSE Beauty Changed Everything (00:49:10) Why Molly Built YSE (00:53:48) Rella Ad (00:54:48) Shopify Ad (00:56:37) Beauty Products Explained (01:01:04) Making Clinical Beauty Fun (01:02:24) Not A Celebrity Brand! (01:05:49) How To Raise $15M (01:07:30) Molly’s Credit Card (01:08:08) The Credit Card Reveal (01:08:30) Niacinamide Or SPF? (01:08:40) Silk Pillowcase Or Taping? (01:08:58) Microneedling Or BBL Moxi (01:09:03) How Often Microneedling? (01:09:19) Best Beauty Splurges (01:10:06) HSR Love Note (01:10:30) Molly’s Next Life Chapter (01:11:21) AG1 Ad ⸻ Sponsors Ollie: Use code HSR for 70% off at http://ollie.com/hsr Rella - http://getrella.com use code HSR for 10% off your first 3 months or annual plan Shopify - http://Shopify.com/HSR AG1 - For a limited time, visit https://drinkAG1.com/HSR  to get a FREE morning person hat with your first AG1 subscription. ⸻ Hot Smart Rich: Your Business & Culture Gossip For ambitious women wanting to own the room, gain power, and build wealth. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hotsmartrich/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hotsmartrich Maggie Sellers Reum: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/maggiesellersreum/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@maggiesellersreum LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sellersmaggie/ Locker: https://www.wantlocker.com/users/maggiesellers ShopMy: https://shopmy.us/maggiesellers Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/shop/maggiesellers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I would say to every woman, if someone is cheap, don't marry them. If someone doesn't align with how you raise your children, how you look at money, and that's a big thing in business. Even if it's not called a pre-num, have the conversations. Molly Sims, you are a true trailblazer. Vogue Paris, Victoria's Secret, Wise Beauty. I didn't think it when I did the first one in 2002, that 26 years later, I would still be doing it. But it was hard. It was no money.

If you had known then what you know now, do you think you still would have done that? My mom was like, you were relying on no man for many. So you froze eggs. I froze embryos. I didn't know that. You're gonna make me cry. Because it's awful to settle.

I remember I was eating this guy and I'm like, oh my god, I love Heineken. I love living in a trailer. I hate Heineken and I don't want to live in a trailer. If you're always striving to please someone, you will be good, but you will not. never be great. Do you believe that you can have it all? It depends on what all looks like to you. What is the one thing that you wish someone told you before you raised $15 million? I don't think I've

ever said that. In case you missed it, you're allowed to be hot, smart, and rich. So let's get into it. Molly Sims, are you ready to get hot, smart rich? I'm ready to get hot, smart rich. I feel like you are hot, smart, rich, though. I mean, I'm going to be hotter, smarter, and richer after this podcast. Perfect. Well, for someone that's just clicked in, maybe they know, of you, maybe they don't. What do you think, based on the title of the show, they're going to learn today from you? How to be a badass founder, a badass mom, and to work smarter, not harder. Is that your mission statement? My mission statement for 2026 is disciplined growth. For my company, for just like my family, like I think as much as you want to grow and be everything to everyone,

there also has to be discipline and restraint and thoughtfulness as opposed to just always going, going, going. Going back to 1991, you were in pre-law at Vanderbilt. I know. This is one of the most prestigious colleges in the U.S. I think this is why this show exists because even I was like a little taken aback when I was doing research on you because I didn't know that. It's like I'm like Spencer Pry. He went to USC. I went to Vanderbilt. Who knew? Who knew? When you decided to go from Vanderbilt, dropped out for two years, wanted to pursue modeling, did you feel like if you showed the side of yourself that was like very studious and very intellectual and love to read? And obviously you had to do those things to be in pre-law, that that would hurt your career? You know, I think it was just such a yellow brick road moment where it's just, instead of going left, you automatically go right. I don't think it was something that, you know, it was just such a yellow brick road moment where it just, instead of going left, you automatically go right. I don't think it was something that, you know, it was just.

such a big shift in my life at such a young age. You know, I'm at Vanderbilt. I'm in a sorority, Delta, Delta, Delta, I can I help you, help you, help you, help you. You know, your path is kind of said I was, you know, in between my freshman and sophomore year, I interned on the hill. I wanted to go into possibly political law, politics. So it was just such a left turn, right from what I thought I was going to do. So for a long time, I myself had a hard. time being like, wait, what are you doing? You know, because I went from Vanderbilt to New York City for three months and then September, everyone goes back to school. I was actually going to spend a semester abroad and I ended up in Germany. And so it was like just so like a what the

fuck moment at that moment of like, okay, we're jumping off a cliff. And I think sometimes, and I see this a lot in business now too. Like sometimes what you don't know is better because you're not staying neutral. You're not going backwards. You're just jumping, right? So you're propelled forward. And I think for me, it was very hard. I mean, it was very hard to have a group of friends, have my family close to go in. And, you know, as you were saying, someone he loved to read, someone who worked so, hard to get into Vanderbilt. And then it really was just what I looked like. So that was, that's what was so hard. Everything about my career at that moment changed from intellect, personality, to, I dare say a coat hanger, but it was really rough. So you enter into the modern.

industry in the heroin chic era. This is like you are leaving Vanderbilt Law to go and go up against that body type, that aesthetic, all these gatekeepers, by the way, back in the industry. There was no social media. What kept you going during those hard times and all these rejections when you didn't fit the mold of exactly what they were looking for then? You know, I think because I was so kind of like a fish out of water in the beginning, I was just trying to like, oh my God, what is happening? What is a ghosty? What is a casting? What is, you know, trying to just figure out the world of modeling, right? And then to be living in Europe, you don't speak the language. I certainly didn't speak German. I didn't have any friends. I think I was just trying so much just to figure it out.

You know, and then you start to figure it out, right? You're like, okay, well, maybe could I be a runway girl, or am I just a catalog girl? Could I be editorial? And look, for a long time, I'm not going to lie. like I was told, you're a catalog girl, which for me, not having a complete kind of understanding of the world of modeling, yes, I wanted to get a book, and that's why every girl goes to Europe because you get tear sheets. And the more tear sheets you get, the more book you get, the more opportunities for campaigns for money jobs. But I quickly became the girl, the pretty girl, the conservative girl, the catalog girl. You know, the girl that was like never too, you never thin enough to walk a runway or be considered an editorial.

And so, again, I tried, I did the Milan shows. I did the Paris shows. I did the, you know, the English shows, London. But then you start to try different things and you're like, okay, fuck it. I'm going to, you know, I cut off all my hair. I did the last box in the clarell at Walgreens or CVS. Expresso. It's like a very dark black.

I think the best part of me was like, I was always. willing to be like, okay, I'll try it. You know, I had that always that curiosity about me, but it was very hard. My mom and my dad were amazing. I remember my phone bills being crazy and she'd be like, just say one more week or one more day. And then, you know, and then I found a really good girlfriend when I was living in London. I met her on the floor of a casting. But then I asked if I could live with her and she lived with two firemen and I ended up dating one fireman. She did didn't update any other firemen. But it definitely learned a lot of things, but also good things, right? I learned how to dress. I learned what was it like living in Germany? What was it life living

in England and Italy? I was there close to seven years and then finally moving to Paris. So I kind of got to go to University of Fashion, of beauty of world, right? Like that was a real education that I don't think money can buy. A thicker passport, it's chef's kiss if you can get it right, because you're constantly learning. You're learning how people live, a different point of view, a different culture. And that has, you know, I will forever be grateful. You also faced a lot of nos. How do you think that's impacted your future success being told no so many times? Not that I expect to know, but I was, you know, when you're a model or you're an actress or you're hose, so you're 99% going to get the job. Well, the 1% is that you don't, right? Oh, you're 99%.

You're 97% confirmed. You're too tall. You're too fat. You're too blonde. You're too dark. Your calves are too big. Oh, you're too muscular. We really want, you know, really no muscle. So I think for me, I always had to make something work or figure it out. How to get the no into a yes or, okay, that job wasn't for me, but maybe I can get the next one. I think it's been so instrumental in my success in all the things that I've done because I'm like, I will never just, I think, settle on one career. Like when I was a model, I'm like, okay, well, this is only going to last for so long, right? That door is going to close. Well, then that made me think about hosting. And then, well, do you really want to be a host? Like, or what about acting?

So I think for me, the no of it all or the, oh, you're not going to be relevant anymore, always kind of pushed me in the back to kind of be like, all right, maybe it's time to like look over here. It's actually served me really well. I'm like a fucking cat that just doesn't just keeps going. But the nose are really hard. The nose, I mean, the nose are still hard. I don't really take it in the same way. it just kind of almost propels me harder to make it a yes, especially when someone doesn't take me serious.

Well, now everyone knows you went to Vanderbilt. I'm just kidding. Thank you. But I think you touched on something that a lot of people don't want to talk on, which is this word relevancy. Because I even have had many CEOs in this chair that have been publicly traded CEOs. And they get off the hamster wheel because they don't have that title anymore. And that feeling of just like being enough without the title, without their job, is very hard to rationalize with. And I think what was so fascinating to me about you is that,

You got the cover. That is so funny. Vogue Paris in 1999. And then you walked Victoria's Secret in 2001. I know. Was this the most relevant time that you feel like you had? You know, if you can see, I was about, I was starting to go blonde. And they were like, oh, you're never going to work as a blonde.

And they were like, you're never going to be an editorial. You're never going to be, you know, in the magazine. It was just such a pivotal time because I'm like, oh my gosh, when I got the phone call, because I was told I was getting one page in Couture, which Cotor is like a negative, a negative zero. But I was getting one country. And my agents and I sat there, I got there, I don't know, 8 o'clock in the morning, 7 o'clock in the morning, 11 o'clock, 12.

12 o'clock. Ruben Afanador was shooting. He was an incredible photographer. In Sarge Normand, everybody knows him. Think Sarah, Jessica Parker, Julia Roberts. And I think Charlotte did my makeup. And I finally, I got up the nerve to ask Serge. I was like, do you know when I'm going to start getting, you know, my 12-hour look for Couture? You know, I'm representing. And do you know what country I'm going to get? And he looked at me and he goes, oh, you're not doing. Couture. And I was like, what? And he goes, oh, you're doing a cover try. I go, me? And he goes, yes. And I was like, wait, are you sure? And they were like, yeah, no, they want to cover try you. I was like, for French vogue. And he was like, yes. And I was like, I went back and I'm like,

I think I smoked a cigarette. I don't even know what I did. I was like, what the fuck? And so It was like 7 o'clock at night. They throw on this amazing leather jacket on me. I have not had any hair and makeup. You guys can't see me, but Serge goes like this to my hair, takes a fan. Charlotte puts Vaseline on my eyes with a little mascara or does at my brows, puts a little Vaseline here in a little bit. And that was my makeup for...

This fringe faux cover. Am I crazy? That's crazy. True story. I haven't told that story. I never got a Couture page. I never got a country, but I got a cover. So at that moment, it just, I'm like, oh, my God, I'm going to have an editorial career now.

I'm going to. And as you know, you know, the best leg plans are completely changed. And I, this was in 1999. And then I auditioned for MTV's House of Style. I can't remember what year that was. But it was a ride around that time. And then I ended up meeting Sports Illustrated, Victoria's Secrets. And so, see, it just evolved into a completely different beast, right?

But at this moment, at this time, I'm like, oh, my God, I'm not just a catalog girl. A lot of people, when they see someone tell a story like that, they're like right place, right time, luck. I always disagree with people like that because I'm like, it's luck meets opportunity. It's being prepared. It's being able to put yourself in the position where you're given that. 100%. I had listened to my agents. Joan Juliet Buck, who was an American.

She was the French editor of French Vogue at the time, which was a little controversial, her being an American. I love Joan Juliet. I will always be forever indebted. She booked me in a John Baptiste Mondino shoot. It was with like five other girls. It was fur. It was bronze. It was amazing.

And she liked me. And then she had me do something with a very famous French artist that was like, I'm like, what am I doing? And she was like, and my agents were like, just go. She, I don't know. I don't know why she likes you, but she likes you. And so I just kept showing up. I kept doing what I needed to do, but I also like, well, whatever she wants me to do, I'll do.

And so preparation equals work equals look. I mean, I don't know. I think so. When she called me and I was standing in the moray and antique batique and she was like, I'm looking at a cover of someone really, really special. was a big moment. So you go cover a French Vogue, your walking Victoria's Secret Fashion Show. This is like Sports Illustrated.

Then, you know, I started kind of getting a voice. I did an Old Navy commercial where I got to say four words only at Old Navy with Matthew Rawson, was the director. And I think with Sports Illustrated with MTV, it was a moment where there was a face and a name. And so at that time, as you know, Sports Illustrated, Victoria Secrets, you weren't just a model. You're like a model with a

name. So I became Molly Sims at that moment, right? No one before would know who she was, right, on this cover. So with, you know, and that's well, forever being indebted to S.I. and to MTV and all those moments, Adam Scher, who runs ITV right now. He was a massive agent. He was Ryan C. Crest for a long. time at William Morris, and he really was the one to say, I really think MTV had offered me, I think it was four to six times a year to take over for House of Style when they were rebooting it. I think it was from Amber and Shalom. And he goes, look, I think this is great. I think you should absolutely do it. And so I started doing it. And then they came to him or came to us, and they were like, we have this little show.

It's called Mission Makeover. And you're going to be on every day after school, and we're going to pay you absolutely no money. And you got to remember, I had worked from 1991, until 1999, nine years of schlepping. And then to finally, you know, have a little bit of, you know, I'm making money. I'm J. Crew, like J. Crew, I started doing in the late 90s, early 2000. Like, that was a huge American client for me. I was taking the Concord from Paris to New York. I'd work in Paris in the morning,

in New York in the afternoon. So it was, it was a moment that I had really worked for. I mean, I'm going on 10 plus years at that time. It was tricky. It was tricky. But I did it. I chose to do the MTV and it was hard. It was no money. I gave up a lot. But in the end, every kid saw me after school. Like I would get them ready. We'd do hair makeup and Sima's eye to accompany them to their prom or to like their job or to like their date. I mean, it was crazy if I think of it. I think I did like 9,000 episodes. But it did help put Molly Sims on the map MTV. When you just posted a video of you saying you're a mom of three, you'll never model again.

And it was opening up Sports Illustrated with three children now. Was that something that eventually, once you've done all these things, you find your husband, you have your children, was that in the back of your mind that like once I have kids, I won't be able to do this modeling thing anymore? I mean, I mean, you're so sweet and kind, but I'm 50. You know, you don't really think, I didn't think it when I did the first one in 2002 that I still think 30, you know, 26 years later I would still be doing it. Yeah, I almost turned it down. I'm like, there is no way. Like, you know, you have to also understand I have a 9-year-old and an 11-year-old and a 13-year-old boy. So I was a little bit apprehensive to do it just because, look, he loves me. He thinks I'm pretty, but he doesn't love seeing, he doesn't love his friends seeing me in a bathing suit. You know what I mean?

So it was a little bit of a discussion. But I think, look, they see me work, which I will relieve people's guilt. When you have kids and kids see you work, and yes, you're not there for everything, but they do look at you. you were like, they're doing their homework. I'm doing my homework. I'm reading. I'm studying. I'm reading scripts.

I'm making notes. I don't know. I think that way, that was one thing my mom did very, very well. I saw her working, exercising. Like, you know. And I had the opposite experience where I didn't see my mom working. And that I think is actually part of the reason why I am so driven. Like, I want my own financial freedom.

I want to be able to make the decisions for me of like when I choose to do something. And I think I'm so grateful for the environment where I grew up with money, where it was never scarce. But like I did watch specifically the dynamic of like having to ask for permission and an allowance versus like feeling like I've made my own money and I can actually go and do this for myself. Oh yeah. What type of environment did you grow up with as it relates to money and like how do you

think that motivates you to still be working as hard as you are? I mean, listen, both my parents were entrepreneurs. So they started a book company. We had someone to talk about them. Do we have a tissue bog? No, it's okay. Are you sure? Okay.

You're going to make me cry. They were incredible entrepreneurs. I know. Now we're both crying. I'm like, I'm sorry. I read a lot about your mom when I was researching about how she said the thing about like just one more week. Just one more week. Just hanging there for one more week.

They were very good about making, if I wanted to be an astronaut, if I wanted to, my brother was a pro golfer, we're in the middle of Kentucky, we're in the middle of nowhere. Like, they were very big on, you make your own luck, you make your path, but they were big on working. I mean, I was working in my dad's hot, sweaty ass warehouse because my dad, own a company called it, they owned a company called Southeastern Book Company, where they would go in to Vanderbilt, UK, Rose, all the colleges in the university on the east and southern coast, and they would be the people when your teachers would be like, oh, you got to get a new addition, they would buy back the old edition and give you money back at the end of your semester. So that's

what my parents did. I know. And then from that, my mom had a paper recycling company. So she was just always she would run she would walk four miles with our dog she'd get dinner on the table she just was always coming up with like and she was a very hard worker like my dad would give all of our money away and she would be the one he'd be like what are you doing like she was very she wasn't hard per se because she was so loving but she definitely made me learn about money i will tell you that she was like you are relying on no man no boyfriend for money that that was probably the best advice I ever got, right? Like, she was always like, I remember she, because I got, I didn't have a lot of money.

And I was like, oh, my God, I'm getting, I got these, like, Chloe pants. And, you know, she was listening. She was from the Depression era, so the girl loved to save. But she would always say, and we didn't have a lot of money growing up until we did, she would be like, okay, instead of 10 white t-shirts, we're going to get one great white t-shirt. right like if i wanted the bag we would save to get the bag she would put our easter outfits and layaway but it was like the easter outfit like she was very big on well let's save to get it but we don't get 10 shitty things or i still dress like that today i will save or i'll like have my eye on and yes

i mean of course we do high low but if i want the kate dress that i'm wearing like i'm like okay I'm not going to buy four shitty ones. I'm going to save up and buy the K dress. But she was very big on that. And she was just like, I don't want you spending all your modeling money on clothes. She was like, because it's trendy. It's going to go. And so I, in 1999, the year I kind of made this whole transition, I bought a piece of property in the Hamptons for $535,000.

I think I had to come up with like $60,000. $1,000 for, and that I put my money into real estate. So by the time I married, I had three homes. You know, I was very set up with a boyfriend, without a fiancé, a husband. And I owe that a lot to my parents because they were just very good business people. And then my agents at next, I'm still with them. They were good to me. You know, I got with a good business manager.

I had a lawyer. I remember Linnard Slangell was my in Catherine Clementova were there with me for 30 years and I the whole like Bernie Madoff thing and I'm like but but I'm like these people are making like

30% 21% 17% and he's like okay let me look at it and he was like no you're not doing it and he was like it's too good to be true it's like I don't have a good feeling about this because it was too good to be true. True story. One thing that Courtney and I

keep arguing about now that we're married is not when we're going to try for a baby. We're aligned on that. We argue about when we're getting a dog. No joke. My vote, baby first, then a puppy. Because realistically, I'll be the one doing all the work. But I know that when it comes to feeding our future puppy, we're both very aligned on using today's sponsor, Ollie. Ollie makes the highest quality fresh food developed by real chefs and backed by veterinary nutritionists. From the second you start your subscription, everything is tailored to your dog. All meals are perfectly portioned, so much so that you even get a pup tainer, and a scoop for easy storing and serving. And through the OLLI app, you can track your dog's health too. If you want this level of health for your puppy,

head to ollie.com slash HSR and tell them all about your cute little dog. And if you enter HSR at checkout, you'll get 70% off your welcome kit when you subscribe. Plus, Ollie's obsession guarantee means that if you're not completely obsessed like you are with my show, you'll get your money back. Well, thank you for sharing that with us. I think so many people listening to this and one of the things that we try to normalize is like talking about money, thinking about money. And I think your story is so important for people to hear because you are a true trailblazer. I feel like I'm going to cry because like doing research on you was it was really, shocking because I think you have made so many decisions financially about your body, women's

health, so far ahead of your time that I don't feel like you've been given enough credit for. So at 37 years old, you meet your now husband, you decide to freeze your eggs even though he is your husband. This is 2010. I think at 35, 36, I woke up and I'm like, oh boy, you know, I want a family. And that was really hard. And I think my mom was like, wait, when is this going to happen? But yes, I had gotten Michelle Milovina, Dr. Michelle Hacocca. She is my OBJAN that just did my surgery. She's the best.

The best. Yeah. Dr. Michelle was like, listen. you're fine. And I was like, are you sure I'm fine? And she was like, you are? And I was like, I know, but I'm not dating anybody. I'm not married. And she goes, here's what I want you to do.

She wrote down this name. She goes, go see him. He'll take you up through the top. No one will see you. His name was Dr. Shaheen Gadir. He's now a world-renowned fertility doctor. Or back then he, you know, I didn't know who he was. And so I go, I visit him.

We do the blood work. He sits me down. He's very, if you know Dr. Gidear, you know Dr. Gideer, but he's very like, okay, we're going to make this shit happen. And I'm like, oh, okay. Well, you know, tell me about this freezing of the egg thing. Like, what is this? What does it even mean? And he was like, okay, explained everything.

He goes, well, it doesn't really work right now. And I was like, oh, I was like, okay. And then he goes and he swirls around to his computer and he starts typing. And I'm like, what the fuck is he doing? And so he spins around and he goes, well, but what we can do is we can buy new sperm. And we can, I'm like, wait, I am not freezing embryos. And I kind of looked in him. I'm like, I'm like, do you not think I'm going to meet someone?

And I was like, do you see this? Do you see my face? Are you worried? Are you worried? And we kind of got into it. And I was like, okay, well, I just, you know, I really want to just know about the egg part, the freezing part of it. And he was really good. He was like, think about it and come back to me.

We're making great strides in an egg freezing. And I go, okay. And so I was so pissed. I got back in my car upstairs and I'm like, what the fuck? I called Michelle and she's like, you're fine, you're fine. It's just information. But in the back of my mind, a couple of things that he said. He goes, but it's okay to have an insurance policy.

And I just couldn't get it out of my head. And so from that appointment, I made a date in the calendar that if I, wasn't with someone, I was going to freeze my eggs. And so I ended up meeting Stuber and, oh, God, I got into an argument with one of my girlfriend. She was like, don't do it. Don't ask him. He's going to totally break up with you. I'm like, well, if he's going to break up with me at this point, I'm like, I don't know that we really should be, you know, hanging about getting married anyway. But yeah, and so it was a very hard conversation because when that date came, in 2010, I was doing it with or without him.

It's just like I made like this promise to myself. And at that point, I'm 36, 30, 37. Seven years old. He was like, well, what is this, what is this, what is this mean? And I was like, well, I'm going to freeze my eggs. I actually don't know what it means, but I'm going to have a lot of eggs. And then if, you know, we didn't, you know, because no one, there wasn't, no one was freezing eggs.

And so, and I was like, all right, you know, I could do embryos, but like, you know, we're not together. Yeah, I'm like, it was just so, it was, and he kind of looked him and he goes, let's do it. And I was like, oh, I don't know. And then, you know, and then it's like, okay, you have kind of the cold feet of like, what are you doing? So I marched my ass back in that doctor's office with Dr. Gidear. And we did it. And they froze. I did two rounds and I wasn't married.

You froze eggs. I froze embryos. Embryos. I didn't know that. So you guys froze embryos and not eggs? I don't think I've ever said that, but yeah, it was embryos. So I think why that hit so hard home for me is that I've called off an engagement and I did it at 30. And when I met my husband was actually the exact time that I was about to go and freeze my eggs.

because I did not want to have to choose settling for someone that wasn't right for me just to have this reproductive ability. And I wanted that insurance policy. I want to talk more about that because I didn't end up doing it. I took the risk that like I knew this was my husband. There was just something about our connection. But that was a risk. And I think that there are so many women that having these types of decisions that you make like you bought property before, you're bringing assets into your marriage, you're bringing these conversations of fertility. Like, I still feel there are so many women that will forego what they really want because they just want to be chosen.

I know. What would you say to that girl? Girl, do your own thing, right? Like, he even told me, he goes, we don't need to do this. And he's like, have you ever had any fertility? I was like, I don't think so. I mean, Dr. Michelle thinks I'm good, but I am 37 years old. like I am considered geriatric and I haven't even started, you know.

And I just could not let it go. And I would say to every woman, don't talk yourself into things that you don't want. It's like the girl who's like, I don't want to get married just for self-protection. Or I don't want to have kids just because it might not be happening. Right? like take the steps because it's very hard it's it's easy to dump go backwards go forwards it's awful to say neutral it's awful it's awful to settle it's awful to you know oh my gosh pick me pick me you never want to talk someone into something that i can tell you as much as you think you do

you do not you do not you want someone who wants you just as much and that's a big thing in business. I said, I'm trying to hire someone now. And I said, I'm so sorry. I said, I'm going to have to deadline you. I go, I'm obsessed with you. I go, but what I need to know are you obsessed with me back? And I go, you have until X date at 12 o'clock, or I'm pulling the offer. And she kind of looked at me and I go, I have to move on. Sometimes you have to, it's like the date of the, I'm going to have this conversation with the egg freezing, right? Like, sometimes you have to put these things in motion. And I've seen a lot of girls settle or, oh, it's like when I was dating, I remember

I was dating this guy and I'm like, oh, my God, I love Heineken. Oh, my God, I love, I love living in a trailer. This could be, I love, I love it. I fucking hate Heinegan, and I don't want to live in a trailer, right? Like, but you find yourself because you do want to be with someone and you want to be picked and you want to be, but you cannot lose yourself in the process. I got to interview, and if you ever can get the opportunity, I'll try to help you. I got to interview Bell Burden. I would die.

Yeah. She was so, and she'd be great for this podcast because. This is a woman who is amazing in so many ways. She was a former immigration lawyer, educated, talented, kind, beautiful, comes from two different size. The Paley family and I think the Vanderbilt family. It happens to all of us, right? It can happen to anyone, you know, oh, he's taking care of the money or, oh, I don't need to know what's going on. you do I think that's what makes stuber and I so how do I say this the yin to the yang and the yang to

the yin the the equal right like he didn't just find me on the back of a fucking truck in kentucky there are certain situations where no we're especially when we were getting married and trying to figure out all of our finances and you know he had had a bad situation situation before he met me and, you know, his people were very, very hard with me. And look, it hurt me. I'm not going to lie. It was very, uh, I have, you know, 14 years on the other side. And I can see why, because you want to, when something goes wrong, wrong, you want to protect, you know, for the future. You have to know about your financial portfolio. Good, bad, ugly. If someone is cheap, don't fucking marry them. If someone doesn't align with how you raise your children,

how you look at money, how you see things, right? Like, it's so important to be aligned. And most importantly, is who you have a child with. I'm obsessed with you, first of all. Second of all, so I just rolled out all my wedding content. And the content that's hit the most is about prenupts. Marry someone who will look at you this way when you negotiate your pre-knap for eight months. It's not easy negotiating a pre-nup. I've been there, and it's very hard. You know, look, I didn't really know what a pre-num was, to be honest with you. I thought it's all the stuff that comes with you when you, you know, you come into a marriage. I had three homes. I had my own bank accounts, my own IRAs, my own stocks, my own thing. As we both know, pre-nums are not just that.

It's very difficult. I think what I loved about my pre-nap, but I'm really trying to to reframe it for people because we called it a PMA even. I was like, I cannot hear pre-nap because we were also coming from such different financial levels and status. And it's funny because when I would say to him, like, when you were 33, you had nothing. You put everything into your business. That's my age. You're 14 years older than me. So you have to think about it from that perspective where like there's a long way for me to go. And we really tried to reframe everything where it was like we called it a PMA. We did not call it a pre-nap. My lawyers definitely wanted his lawyers and them to talk, which just racks up the bills.

And so we had a rule that once a week, we would sit down over dinner. We would make it romantic and we would have really hard and ugly conversations. Such hard conversations. Such hard conversations. But don't you agree now that 14 years into your marriage, having those conversations and knowing and being financially in control of where you are, you are in such a better place than if you had avoided those conversations. Yes, I get everything.

No, I'm kidding. Well, not really. But yes. I mean, look, I'm not going to lie. They were very hard conversations. You know, there were days, you know, because I had Mrs. Bishop and he had, you know, Paul Hoffman. So it was just very, we had different trusts. And like, it just, look, yes.

If you can have those. conversations, I think it's really important that you do. And even if it's not called a pre-nup or it's not even legal, have the conversations. I know you don't want to because it takes all the fun and the romance and the out like, but I'm very happy that we did. I have a girlfriend who was over at my house last week who, after reading strangers, said that, you know, she's making probably a few hundred thousand dollars a year. They're a dual-income family. They didn't have a pre-knap when they got married. She trusts her husband to do everything. So he pays the mortgage. He pays all the bills. She has... And that's okay. It's okay. That's totally fine. It's not that he can't do it. You just need to know what is going on.

So she's now doing these almost what she called it is AA with my female friends that we are all going together and asking each other. Like, what are the things that we should know? What are the things that we should be asking? Because women do need to band together and be able to feel confident that like you're allowed. Know what you're signing. Know what you're signing. Here's one piece of advice to your friend. Know what you're signing. Do not sign blind. Ask questions.

So what if you don't know the answer? So what if you act like you're dumb? Who cares? Ask the question. Now, you don't even have to ask him the question. Ask Claude. Ask AI. Ask, but ask the questions.

I think that is the best piece of advice. If there is a piece of property, your fucking name better be on it. With your kids now, being a mom of three, What are some of the lessons that your mom gave to you that you're giving to them as it relates to like knowing their value, negotiating, the rules of success that you've obviously been able to carry through and like all of the amazing things that you've built? They see how hard we work. They see that money doesn't grow on trees even though they live in, you know, west of L.A., and I'm sure they think it does. but they see that our work, work harder, not smarter, you work hard, you play hard. I think they see Stuber and I working hard.

But they also see us playing hard. They see us valuing things. They, I mean, look, I'm not going to lie, you know, know me very well, but I run a tight ship. So I, our world might look big, but it's very, very small when it comes to the, them. They know they're loved beyond, but we do hold them accountable. I had a very hard conversation with my oldest, and I said, you know, he's amazing and, you know, never wants to make a mistake. And so I say to my kids every single day, have fun, be a leader, and make mistakes. Because if you're always striving to please someone, you will be good. You will never. You will never.

be great. You will never be great. You have to take the shot. You have to not be a team player. Sometimes you got to be a dick. You've got to, you've got to make those moments. You've got to be the one that's everyone says no to. You've got to be the one. I got this. Right? Those are the lessons. Those are the lessons that try not to be perfect, mess up, make mistakes. That's how you learn, right? But if you're always trying to be like, oh my God, did I mess up? Yeah, I hope you mess up. But especially in sports, my biggest is a very big lacrosse player and he's really, really good.

He's a very, coaches love him because he's such a team player. But sometimes, you know, he'll get a little hesitant. And I tell him, go. go. But we've had some hard conversations. It's been hard. But I push him. I push all of them. My mom did it. She did. I was a swimmer. It's so interesting because I think when you talk about your kids, there's like a different energy that comes out of you. And it was very interesting because when my team was giving me the notes from the research call with your team, one of the things that they said that you were really excited to talk about was this conversation around balancing business with motherhood. And you haven't really had the platform to talk about, like, what that balance really looks like. I want to ask you this before I ask you another question. This show, the name is catchy.

Of course, it's going to catch people's attention. But what I'm really trying to answer for people is, do you believe that you can have it all? It depends on what all looks like to you. What does it look like to you? I have it all. But my all probably doesn't look like most people's all. I have a husband. I have three kids who I love.

I don't feel like I have FOMO. I'm not worried about not going to a party. I'm not worried about not getting invited somewhere. I'm not, those are the least of my concerns. I do I think you can have it all? I think it depends on where your priorities are. I think if you're the girl sitting here and being like, oh my God, I want X, Y, and Z.

Oh, I'll just put kids off later. I don't know if you will wake up one day and think you have it all. I don't know. I don't know what all looks like. I have a lot of guilt from the South. I have, of course, mom guilt. It's like bred into you the moment you deliver. But work-life balance, look, that's why I always say we kind of work hard, we play hard.

I'm mom sometimes amazing. And then I don't. I work hard and then I'm like, a fucking crash. I think it's very hard to have it all. I love what I've done later on. I think had I started Wise in my 20s and my 30s, I don't think it would be what it is today. All the things that like I went through writing books,

trying to get pregnant, trying to get married, like I think, I don't know. It set me up to have a good foundation to be a founder, to be the one that, all right, put your oxygen mask down, your seatbelt on and get ready for the ride because it's stomach turning. And I think that set me on to be a great mom. It set me up to be a great founder because, you know, I mean, I go against my own company for some of my employees. You know, it's like I'm in it to win it with them. I do. I'm very much a team player in that way. I don't know, and I feel like my kids are part of my team, right?

Stuber's part of my team. Do I think you can have it all? It depends on what your all looks like, right? Like, I have it all, but I also had to sacrifice for a long time. I mean, having three kids in my late 40s, you know, my mom got very sick after my third one. You know, I lost her in 2020. I lost my dad in 25. You know, it was just a very hard moment.

COVID fires. We were part of the, part of the palisades where, you know, I lost my entire community. So it's things like that very much put having it all in perspective very quickly. I think it's interesting because everyone has a different version of what it means, right? But I think it's so comforting to hear a woman also claim that it's their all. because I think women are so often taught to like almost be humble and not show what you've worked so hard for. And I think something that you do so eloquently in a way that is genuine is like showing people that if you work hard, it's also okay to reap the success of that reward and enjoy the ride of it. Absolutely.

Absolutely. I almost wrote a book. I was like, I don't know, and then I started a podcast, but it was kind of tentatively titled unstuck. I think women believe like they don't like their emptiness or like, okay, what's next? Well, I can't do anything. Of course you can. Right. You have to know your why.

You have to know it more than anyone else. You have to be passionate about any, but everyone can have a chapter. Everyone can try things. I think the difference is I don't go into everything thinking it will work. I pray it will work. I hope it will work. But sometimes it doesn't work. but it doesn't mean that something else won't.

And I think that's the difference in how I've kept my career going. I don't look at it like, oh, well, that's it. We're done, right? You know, I had a very bad miscarriage. Okay, well, it's over. Trust me, it crushed me. And then you move on, right? It is a mentality.

Like, I've always had that. Like if someone says to me, I don't think you can do that. that. I don't think that person will work for you. I don't think, no, you're not going to get that. Like, that part of me only makes me want it more. And I'm a real girl's girl. I can tell that. I can also tell you're just really fun. Like from your wise beauty and birthday event, I was like, this girl, I want to get a drink with. She's fun. It's because you're a Gemini. I love a Gemini. I'm a Gemini. Yeah. You talked about the why. What was your why to wise? I think my why to whys was, look, I had cystic acne from my late 20s to my early 40s, which I thought, okay, we're done.

You know, I have a one-year-old and I have really bad hyperpigmentation, melasma, something with my pregnancy, whether it was son age, turning 40, 41. It definitely, I don't know, something happened with my skin. I went from like no makeup makeup to, oh my God, I've, like, like got patchy skin. I have a thyroid problem. Like Dr. Michelle, like, what is happening? I'm like, I do not know.

I think for me during my 41 to 47, it's like I had nowhere to go. So everything that was really, really strong, derm clinical was either old, very expensive and very harsh with a lot of downtime that I didn't understand or the things that I loved, cool, glossier, fun, cool things, had no efficacy. So I really didn't want to talk about my beauty through being premenopausal or talking about sweating after my second baby. Like, I didn't ever look at beauty like that. And so there was really no brand. You had your essay lauders, your land clum, which are amazing, but like, it's not really a cool factor, right? And then everything else was so cool and fun and like I loved it but there was no efficacy and that is truly where wise and no one was

talking to the millennial that the girl coming out of the millennial age going into her 40s no one talked to her they talked to her like she was your fucking grandmother and so that is where wise I think still like you know I don't I don't product develop in lines the clarifying line the acony line the anti-aging line, I don't buy like that. You don't buy like that. You buy in cult hero products. Like, what can one product do a lot of different things? And I mean, I know that sounds crazy, but I'm like, if Y's had a baby with X and had a baby with Y, what would that be? My pads. I wanted something with exfoliation. Like, exfoliation got such a bad, a bad name. I mean, all these women from I don't know, 2010 to like 2020, you had the phase of microderm abrasion.

They would laser off your face. Those same women have done so many lasers. They can't even keep makeup on their skin because they've messed up the barrier. So that's where Wise comes in. We're clinically effective. Everything is clinicals. But there is that benefit plateau, right? I love packaging.

I love to have fun. I love my products to always end and glow or a tint or something blurring. But I need real ingredients. I need peptides. I need ectawain. I need glucone lactone. I need, I need, you know, niacinamide. I need, you know, I got this, you know, 4D hyaloronic. Like, what are the things that are great because I'm aging and I'm not trying to look like I'm 20? But I do need hydration. I need doing. and a plumpiness, everything's falling. So that's truly where Wise came out. It's all about the core is exfoliation that leads to a tint, that leads to a glow, and we really have fun doing it. I mean, I think for me, starting lipstick on the rim, everyone was gatekeeping. I mean, I would ask my friends who are in the entertainment business, you know, what do you do? And they'd be like, oh, I drink a lot of water and I sleep a lot. And I'm like, oh, yeah, of course you do. But like, I was like, okay, I starved, I've done a pint of Botox, I've gone to weak hair, like, and that's, you know,

I mean, I guess that's probably why Emisha and I work, because we're so transparent and honest on what we do, and that's the same with why's. We're going to tell you what to do, when to do, and how to do it. Yeah, no one was speaking to the Amy's and the Jennifer's and the Lawrence. You know, it can't always be just about young Gen Z rainbow of colors, right? Like, what is it for us? But at the same time, you want to know how to use it. You don't want it to like, okay, if you put this product on, you can't use it for two weeks. But it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of work. It's like a lot of work. Everyone keeps asking me how I've grown HSR's Instagram so fast with such an engaged community. And it has nothing to do with me. It's possible for a few reasons. Number one, this community.

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Post surgery. Stop it. Oh, my God. You have wise beauty patches on. That's hilarious. So I was going to ask you what the fuck you put in these. Okay, I'll tell you. Because I got to tell everyone, because we have a lot of 20,

year olds, 30 year olds, 40 year olds, 50 year olds, and everyone's obsessed with like the road eye patches. And I will not start a day without these. The first thing that I did post-surgery, just so people really understand this, is I put on my wise beauty patches because for two reasons. One, realistically, I didn't need to clear my bags after I got out of surgery, but I did it to feel like myself again because your, Dr. Melaniva actually said to me yesterday when I got my stitches out, she said, the first thing you said when you woke up was, will I be able to have a baby? Because you go into surgery thinking, like, what is going to be my outcome? And the very first thing I wanted to do was put on your eye patches to feel like myself. So first of all, can we talk about

what the fuck is in here? And then second of all, I want to ask you, like, what does it feel like to create a product that brings a female to feel back like herself again? So they're called the overachiever brightening eye masks. I launched them by pouring a bucket of water on my face. I would sit in makeup chairs for 20 plus years and I would be puffy and I would need something to like take down the puffiness. But I was also dry because I'm older and everything would slide down my face. And so for me, a mom of three can never be vertical. I was like, why? can I not find an eye patch that doesn't slide. And so you literally can wear them when you're working out. Like I've done full Tracy Anderson dripping sweat. They do not come off. They're hydrating. They have caffeine. They depuff. But what they do for fine lines and wrinkles is just you're getting that hydration right here. You're getting that little bit of skincare. And that's what you're, and they're cooling. So between the cooling, the caffeine, the depuffing, and they're excellent for dark circles.

So it's helping with that color correcting, get that circulation kind of going back, you know, where you can be like blue or purple a little bit. And that's why they're so successful. It's the same way with my wide awake eye cream that everybody, they were like, what do you want me to come up with, an eye cream? And I'm like, okay, great. Well, you know, do you wear an eye cream? And they're like, no, but I want to want to wear an eye cream.

And so we made our wide awake brightening eye cream with like a cooling element after use your overachievers. And it's got blurring, caffeine, color correcting, and skin care too for fine lines and wrinkles. So you can wear it under concealer, over concealer, no makeup. But you're putting your eye cream on a couple of times a day. That's how you get because it's tinted. So you have pink, peach, honey, and mocha. and it has been crazy. I think my favorite product, though, is the extreme glow, the dewy peptide.

A lot of my friends, single kids, no kids, models, ex-models, 20-year-olds, 50-year-olds, a lot of I've been hearing that I feel dull. I feel tired. I feel dehydrated. And they want this serum that will kind of plump you back up without being sticky. and tacky. And so you can wear it on its own. You can mix it in with your tinted moisturizer. But it really, a lot of people are on peptides now, so they're feeling the, you know, the skin start to be a little more slush puppy. So it's just, the peptides are just

building up that scaffolding. But like, it's my most fun product. It's pink. It's during the sale a couple of weeks ago, we just launched was the number three serum at Sephora. It's been an incredible, it's a product, Emisha. My. co-host today was, I was talking, she's like, I thought I lost it. I was like, okay, well, and she goes, no, I really thought I lost it. I was like, are you okay? And she goes, I cannot put my makeup on without it. I don't know what it's wrong with me, but like, and you know, she's my best friend and she's my biggest critic. And it just, it really makes me happy. It's a product that you can use. And I think on its own, after a plane, after the shower, after a workout,

out. I use it sometimes two times a day. I brought it with me to kind of touch up after this. It makes in a little fun. It just gives you kind of like that plumpy glow back. But I think I also think about how women use products. They don't want it to pill. My vitamin C, my morning cocktail. There's amazing vitamin Cs out there. But mine doesn't smell like a hot dog. I know. It sounds terrible, but like a lot of vitamin C smells like, that's why people don't wear them. You have to wear a vitamin C. You have to have a nice and aamine. It's weightless. You don't feel like you're wearing it. So you wear it first thing in the morning. Doesn't pill in her makeup. How many makeup chairs have I sat in and someone's like, can you please remove your skincare?

That's part of why is it so successful because you think about the full experience of a woman and her skincare journey. When you were creating it, was it for women to feel more like themselves? I just wanted clinical to be fun. Cool girl clinical is what I kind of was used to like, in the beginning. I'm just like, why is everything clinical so ugly and serious? Why can't clinical be fun? Why can't efficacy be cool? And there just wasn't that. There wasn't. I mean, you had really, really expensive Barbara Sturm. There was no 50, 60, 70, 80 that, you know, you don't need to spend that much on, I mean, yes, of course you can go the gamut, but really efficacy is about consistency with really good actives. That's the magic. is doing something, your eye patches every single day, your ex-pads, your morning cocktail,

your problem solver, right? Like, the magic is that you just keep doing it. The reason why skin glow, SPF-30 is so, is so successful, is because I wanted to create a sunscreen that women love. Whatever you love, that's what you wear. So we created a sunscreen that people want to wear. That, it blurs, it primes, it protects, and it gives you that, that's, little bit of a glow, that blurring that, you know, as we age, you don't look like a disco ball. But you still glow. Do you feel like you've ever been lumped in with being called a celebrity beauty brand? Yes.

I was lumped in. It was the very first question that I was asked three years ago for almost a year, like to the point where, like, I would just go ahead and give the journalist or the person who was interviewing me. be like, I know. By the way, I'm just going to answer this. Like, I literally got so tired of it. I'm like, do we need another celebrity skincare company? Do we need that? Because I launched after Jay Lowe, after Kim, after Scarlet, I was like the fifth one. And, you know, look, it was a hard time to launch. But I will tell you this then. I will tell you this now. It's not a celebrity skincare. It's not a Molly Sims brand. It's a brand. It's a brand that's a brand. stands on its own. It's not Molly Sims. It's a brand for my woman. It's a brand that I meet her

where she is with her skincare journey. It's the thing that I miss the most that I did not have the problem that I wanted to solve. And it works. I mean, you have to exfoliate. I think exfoliation got such a bad name. You know, even now we see all these girls are like getting the CO2, getting the fraxal. And then, you know, like eight months later, they're like, okay, doing the baby CO2, doing the baby fractal, more is not better. Always remember that. More is not always better. No, those CO2 laser, like before and after is really scare me when people are healing. They're amazing. I'm not saying there's not a time and a place. But for me, I would rather do small things more often, right? I don't believe in filler. Right? I would rather get, I would rather come. I believe in Botox.

I believe in micromanetaling. But I don't believe in lasering off, you know, just your skin over and over and over and just wreaking havoc on that barrier. I've seen it. And as we age, we get drier, we get thinner. And I see women, you know, especially now when people are taking the peptide a little bit too far and they're just lasering and CO2ing where it's like, Ooh, it's a slippery slope.

Do you think being Molly Sims helped or hurt you when you raised $15 million for your Series A? I think it helped me. You know, a lot of people are like, it's going to be really hard. I'm like, okay, thanks for the vote of confidence. Yeah, it's a hard market out there to get money. I'm like, okay, you know, never going to make that shit happen in six weeks. I'm like, okay, Amy Lou, Tower 28, she gave me the best advice in and out in six weeks. looked at her. I'm like, Amy, this is not possible. She goes, in and out six weeks. You set your time. You set

your limit. You know what you want. And you're out on that date. I'm like, you are crazy. I did exactly what she said. We were in and out in seven weeks. So funny, the two products that I use after surgery was the SOS brain. That's so good to SOS. That's crazy, though. I know. I'm going to give a little shout up. She's got a new, like a limp plumping jelly. That's, Think launching in like a week or maybe it's already launched, but I'm super excited. What is the one thing that you wish someone told you before you raised $15 million? Just because you have the money, don't spend it. You know, I think it goes back to what I said about my goals for the beginning of 2026, disciplined growth.

Sometimes it takes restraints. You can be everything to everyone. You can't. I mean, of course, I mean, if I could PD, I would come up with 900 skews. But just because you can doesn't mean you should. I've learned a lot from my team. I've learned a lot. You know, I just, I got finally enough money for a CEO.

Her name's Doreen Arbel. You should have her on. She was five years at Charlotte Tilbury. She is so amazing. I convinced her. She took the meeting, I think, is a favor to Deb Benton, who I'm involved with Willow. I'm like 30 minutes in, I could tell she kind of really wasn't interested. And then like 45 minutes in, and then like an hour in.

And she's like, can you keep going? I had like an L interview. and I'm like, okay, sure. And then like an hour and 15 minutes in, an hour and 30 minutes in. She looked to me and she was like, I think I like you. And I was like, really? I was like, I know this is going to sound crazy. And I know this is so not probably where you saw yourself on this phone,

this Zoom, an hour and 40 minutes ago. I go, this was on a Thursday. I go, would you ever if I flee you out on Monday come and meet my team? And she literally looked at me and she goes, I'll be there Monday. She was hired by Wednesday. She didn't even want to take the meeting. Turn that no into a yes.

Can we do some rapid fire? Yes. Okay, Molly Sims, what is the last thing you put on your credit card? The last thing I put on my credit card was I ordered a prod a black swimsuit. I know that sounds weird, but I was getting ready for a big thing I'm doing in a couple of weeks. And I love that brand on my Teresa called Anna Korsicova, where she does kind of the crocheted, whatever. And I was like, oh, just throw in a black one-piece, really expensive prod-a bathing suit. Wait, is this when you're walking the Sports Illustrated runway show?

I cannot confirm or deny that I will be in Miami in a few days. Okay. What is your credit card? I have a Citibank American Airlines gray card, and I have a Platinum American Express. And what do you, like, is it for points? Like, people always ask me, what credit card should I get? So what do you use it for? And what's the reward of it? I love American Airlines, my Citibank, and I love my MX because it can go on any of it. I love points.

Okay. If you can only pick one for the rest of your life, niacidamide or SPF. SPF. That was tough, right? I know. You can only pick one for the rest of your life. Silk, pillowcase, or face taping? Oh, I do both.

I would almost say face taping. I know I do the silicone here. Every night. Every night, the apricot. You can get on Amazon. They're reusable that I use, yeah. Microneedling or BBL Moxie? Microneedling.

How often do you do micrneedling? Like three times a year. Okay. I will say if you do micranylating and you have enough money, try to do an exosome or a PRP after for healing. It really does cut down your downtime from, say three days to one day. What is the best beauty splurge that's expensive and then your biggest drugstore loyal product?

I love the overnight facial from Sarah Chapman. She's an English facialist. I just, it's a serum that I love, love, love, love. It's a bit expensive. And I also love the Kinesco face masks, super expensive, but I love them. And then a drugstore splurge. Everyone should have skin food, Walita. It's in a pourable green tube that you get at the drugstore on Amazon.

And it's amazing when you mix it in with your makeup just a little bit. Or embryolees from the drugstore. That's the most treasure. Okay. So I have a very toxic brain. So I do what I call HSR Love Notes every single day to retrain mine. So as an example, it would be something like my voice has value. you, my haters don't pay my bills, like I create for my community, not for my critics.

If you could only say one HSR love note to yourself for the rest of your life to help you get through any single situation, what would it be? Everything's going to be okay. That was fast. You say it every day? Every day. Love that. Okay.

And if you could title this season of your life. So not disciplined growth. But title the season of your life, what would it be called? My hot, smart, rich era. Love it. But Molly Sims, where can people find you and how can AHSR help you? At Molly B Sims. I'm so happy.

I've always, you know, I love, I have limited time and I'm only doing certain things, but I really wanted to come on the podcast. So I'm so happy we finally made it happen. I'm Molly B. Sims, why is beauty, Y.S.C. Beauty. Yeah, I mean, I think you have to come on my podcast. You have to come on lipstick on the rim. Emisha and I will ask you a ton of questions, finance, beauty, wellness. I'm like you. I think our personalities are very similar.

I'll probably cry more if I'm on your show, but I'll be down for it. Thank you for coming on. You're the best. This was awesome. Thank you. We really don't talk enough about how much is actually asked of women's bodies. I really value having one part of my routine that stays the same, which is where our sponsor, AG1, fits into my life. Because it's truly the one thing that makes me feel like I've got myself together.

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