How Did This Get Made? - Body Rock LIVE! w/ Alison Brie (HDTGM Matinee)

Episode Date: January 27, 2026

Alison Brie (Glow, Mad Men) joins Paul, June and Jason to discuss the 1984 breakdance drama Body Rock starring Lorenzo Lamas. LIVE from Largo in Los Angeles, they talk about Chilly’s hairy chest, al...l the breakdance moves, post shower roast beef, and breaking the fourth wall. Plus, June believes she can breakdance with no practice. (Ep. #188 Originally Released 05/11/2018) • Do YOU want to pick the movie for an upcoming ep? Vote on our discord here• Get up to 20% off tix to see Jason in ALL OUT on Broadway with code ALLOUTPOD at AllOutBroadway.com• Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Now I want to introduce to you a movie where we all said P.U. If you think this rap is bad, just wait and see. After watching this flick, you'll think it's the best in history. We saw Body Rock. That means... How did Schwarzenegger Grove, baby in his belly. Rock a rindstone vest while ripping Justin to Kelly. Or maybe see a burlash show with Nick Crow.
Starting point is 00:00:31 And take a boat with speed two hitting cruise control. J-Man, Big Paul in the beautiful June. Gonna take you from the goof all the way to the room. Rained the games in street fight and hope to blow off steam. Just a sucker punch the odd life for Timothy Green. Shock needle, the bird demic, how we stand a lot. They call it in the badass and he's on the line. Cranking 88 minutes because they cool as ice.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Because a bad gym, Barney looking kind and nice. Paul and June getting literal. Jason is getting laid. June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid. They're judge a bunch of movies while they're making the grade. Here's a real question for you. How did this get made? Hello!
Starting point is 00:01:12 We are live at Lowe. How are you tonight? We are so excited to be here. The whole gang is here, and we are talking about a movie that is unavailable in any format but YouTube. And it's a goddamn travesty.
Starting point is 00:01:38 This is a movie that calls for high definition. I appreciate the effort that it took to watch this, and I think the rewards were greater than we all anticipated. Tonight to talk about this film, I am joined by my co-host. Please welcome Jason Manzoukis. What's up, jerks? Welcome, Jason. Different chairs.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Different chairs. They're lower. They're much lower chairs. So you can look at the audience. I'm sitting very low. Okay, cool. I guess this is what we're doing. You have a lot of chair things in your rider.
Starting point is 00:02:31 I've got a lot of chair. Yes, yes. A lot of chair specifics. No stools. Yeah, no. Don't like them. Don't care for them. Although, I like stools more than I like to this movie.
Starting point is 00:02:45 How dare you? At some point, I said to myself, Fernando Lama's is wearing two vests. Not Fernando. Lorenzo. His son. Sorry. I'm old enough to have first learned
Starting point is 00:02:58 Fernando Lamas and then learned who his son was. At one point, I was like, he's wearing two open vests and then a shirt under it. And I was like, that shirt is his chest. He's just so hairy that I mistook his chest hair for another shirt. And by the way, that means the chest hair is working. That really is an impressive. He's a hunk. This movie's full of hunks.
Starting point is 00:03:27 This movie captures the 80s in a way that I love. It was not pretty. It was not, it was, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, like, New York-based movies, it looks cooler. And I feel like this captured it exactly right. Yeah. It's not super cool. It's pretty to look at, but not super cool. Oh, and it's also, like, grimy.
Starting point is 00:03:53 This, this movie is, like, grimy New York, which I loved. So, so good. And here to talk to us about all this movie and I'm sure about the fashions and the hairstyles. My other co-hosts, please welcome June, Diane, Raphael. I'm okay. June, body rock, thoughts. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:34 It is, we were talking about this a little bit backstage. It's hard to call this a film. As I think we all know that, you know, language matters, words matter. Sure. Is it a motion picture? Is it a moving... Honestly, if you break it down, is it a moving picture?
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yes. But this didn't cut together for me. So you'd like a re-edit? You'd like them to just get in there, open it back up and re-edit this? See what they see. Bring on a new editor.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Fresh eyes. How about this? How about more songs? Do you think more songs would have helped? Instead of a new song starting every 30, to 45 seconds? I will say...
Starting point is 00:05:23 What if a new song started every 15 to 25 seconds? I was in a rush to watch this and I just finished moments ago. So you'll have to excuse me I am like just post body rock just like...
Starting point is 00:05:39 Your body has just been rocked. I hope after sex tonight all of you are like, ooh, I am just post body rock. Just. If we do not make a t-shirt that is a silhouette of Lorenzo Llamas with his, like... Now, I want a T-shirt that is Lorenzo Llamas.
Starting point is 00:05:58 On the sides is the two open vests. And then it's just... The middle of the shirt is just chest hair. You know what? I love that. And I also go, let's recreate the bouncer shirt, which had all the rules of the bar on the shirt. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yeah. And then... He was so tough. He didn't even need to say it. He wore it. Carved. Carved. into his chest hair
Starting point is 00:06:23 is body rock. The words body rock. Like they've been shaved in. I love it. Get to work, Tee Public. Get to work, you fucking nerds. We just released our stellar skateboard shirt which is pretty amazing.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I saw it. It's great. All right. I wonder if Stellan Scarsgard is at all aware of the stellar skateboard scenario and if he is flummoxed by it. Well, I shared an elevator with him once and I almost mentioned
Starting point is 00:06:51 it? No. And I was like, he could definitely beat me up. Also, it gets into one of those things where you'd have to explain what a podcast is to him. I feel like that would be the big, like, but what is it? Like, where would people hear this? No, it is definitely a thing because his Wikipedia page goes from being unlocked to locked often, because every time it's unlocked, it is quickly changed to stellar skateboard. So, some eagle eye, some eagle eye, how did this get? made listener, and I love you for it, is making sure that that thing
Starting point is 00:07:25 stays locked for eternity. Which also means that it doesn't appear as though Stella Scarsgard has been in a movie in three years. Because nobody can get in there to update that account. Well, we're very excited tonight. This is something we've been
Starting point is 00:07:41 wanting to have on the podcast for a long time. She starred along with us in the movie The Disaster Artist. You know her from Madman, from Community, and the amazingly hit Netflix Show Globe. Please welcome, Allison, Brie! Welcome. I want you to know that
Starting point is 00:08:12 I very seriously asked June if I should do the worm just now. I'm in earnest as I came out here. Well, Allison, there's one thing that you share that none of us do. You've seen this movie twice.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Guys, I loved it. I watched it twice. I should preface this by saying, for season two of Glow, I had to learn a little bit of breakdancing. Oh, really? Okay. And we actually have a very similar learning to break dance
Starting point is 00:08:42 montage in season two in the show. It doesn't take place at the zoo is the only difference. So you don't have a cutaway of a bear rubbing up against the tree? No, no. Or a giraffe just like, huh?
Starting point is 00:08:56 I know this is late in the movie and we're not really getting into this right now. But you can, you guys. I liked that most of the animal shots, it was not a reaction shot. They were doing nothing at all. It was like the middle of the afternoon, a bird just like staring off into the distance.
Starting point is 00:09:12 It was almost as if home footage of someone's trip to the zoo was intercut in this movie. Yes, yes, exactly. Well, let's just start off right here at the top. This movie is kind of like staying alive, kind of like cocktail,
Starting point is 00:09:32 and then it makes you realize how amazing those movies are because this one, is a real tricky thing to have a lead character who has no talent. Well, listen, I don't think I've ever... I thought a number
Starting point is 00:09:48 of times watching this movie, I wonder, I don't care for him. And I... I don't want to... I don't know anything about him and I don't want to. Like, I both... There's a lot of... I kept saying
Starting point is 00:10:03 Lorenzo, by the way. We're saying the character, Chili. Chili. is written as having nothing about him that is interested. They kept, he seems to be, he's, he, but inexplicably he succeeds as, in spite of himself in a way that like, I kept being like, oh, the narrative is going to be about the fact that he's talentless and is going to be revealed, but no,
Starting point is 00:10:27 in fact, he is like a hero at the end for being like a horrible person to everyone involved. Basically, he treats everybody in his life like a piece of shit. Then when he gets treated like a piece of shit, all his friends are like, oh, no. They were mean to Chili. We love him.
Starting point is 00:10:49 And I was like, chili has basically ripped everybody off, asked them to teach him how to do their skills, which he then makes money out of. But sort of, except I would just like to point out that there are two Chili learning to break dance montages in the movie. but we never see him breakdance in performance. He spends all this time learning how to do it and then it cuts him on stage kind of rapping?
Starting point is 00:11:18 And when he does get his big number, it's a slow song. It's a ballad. It's a ballad, yeah, which does not seem at all right in the vein of this movie. Well, okay, so the movie starts and I thought, oh, it's a graffiti movie. Agreed, agreed. And by the way, I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Like, that's interesting to me. Body rock. Like, okay, I don't know how it's going to relate, but great. And then I thought, no, no, no, it's about, it is about break dancers. And then I thought, no, no, no. It is about emcees. And then I thought, no, no, no. It's about club ownership.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I mean, there is no. I still don't really know what Chili's goal is. Well, when he goes into the... What's his dream job? Yeah, when he goes into the manager's office, doesn't he want the guy to manage him as artists? As a graffiti artist. As artists, because he'd gotten money for the graffiti artist,
Starting point is 00:12:24 Blizzard? Was that that person's name? And he makes a brief appearance early on in the movie, and they're like, look at that guy, he's so smug. And it cuts him and he's just smiling at them. like a nice guy. Looks like a fucking sweetheart. I kept being,
Starting point is 00:12:41 but I kept being like, is his name actually blizzard? I turned on the close captioning on YouTube, which might as well just be someone typing words into YouTube concurrent to the movie that are not related
Starting point is 00:12:57 to the movie, and it did not help me understand if that person's name was or was not blizzard. I will, I will say that it's a tough sell for a mainstream movie
Starting point is 00:13:09 to be about a lead character who really wants a good manager. Like that was like I really need good manager. But again, to manage what? To manage what? I would like to point out that when Chilli, early on in the movie, he's sitting in the office of, you know, the unemployment
Starting point is 00:13:27 office and he says and I quote, she asked him what his dream job is and he says I want to be like Muhammad Ali in his prime. And then she says, so you're a boxer, and he's like, no. I think that scene was to be like, Chili's so cool, he sticks it to the man.
Starting point is 00:13:52 But she seemed nice. Yeah. Lovely. I felt worse for her because she was sick. Her character is working at the employment office, trying to get morons like Chili a job. Yeah. Who, when he's there,
Starting point is 00:14:11 is again not wearing a shirt. She, she has shown up for work, sick. In terrible lighting. Yes, and this fucking asshole's like, I don't give a shit, my nips are out. Let's just, um, let's take a look. This is for real. This, I want you to understand,
Starting point is 00:14:37 this movie should be about this woman. That's a harrowing John Cassavetti's movie that I would watch. I mean, I don't even think, here. Chester. Chili. Chili. What kind of work would you like? So I wouldn't want to be a trash.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Look at his chest. It's so hairy. If you could do anything you wanted, what would that be? Anything. Sure. I would like to be like Muhammad Ali in his prime. And he puts his fist to her face. No.
Starting point is 00:15:27 When you go out for a job interview, do you usually dress the way you look today? Absolutely. I'd like to look fresh. Fresh. Yeah, fresh. She goes home to someone who's like, how is work? And she's like, not good. Not good. You should see what's up.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I had a chili and an easy today. Things are bad. They were not wearing shirts. I feel like chili looks like the villains from the karate kid throughout the whole movie. Like he always looks like he's in a ghee, like a, but it's not. It's just like a weird belt and his open shirt and his headband. He's fashions. I mean, we could spend a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:16:21 At one point, there's like a leather duster. Oh, well, he says his big dream for when they get rich are that it's going to be all limousines, leather coats, and we can buy a condo. And he does get that leather coat. He gets all three. Wow. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:16:42 We're just taking a look at some of Chili's best looks. Oh. Wait, what? Wait. What? What? While this picture is up, I just want to note something about the name chili that through most of the movie I thought it was spelled like the food, the spice.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Yeah. Spelled with a why? It's spelled with a why. Like chili willy. Like chili willy. Exactly. He is unwell. He is not a well person.
Starting point is 00:17:08 That is insane. Chili? Well, chili is like, yeah, these are intense looks. I don't understand how someone who means. makes no money can afford all these looks. And are they all living together in the same apartment? No. He lives with his mom.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yeah. Oh, right. Okay. Oh, my God. Sorry, Paul. Come on, Paul. But he was with.
Starting point is 00:17:34 What about his mom, Paul? Wait about his mom. What about his mom? His mom who sits in a room watching old-timey movies from the 40s. By the way, his mom who suffered a fall at one point. His mom is unwell. Yeah. Oh, she's not well.
Starting point is 00:17:49 So when, so when Chili goes. back to the house with Darlene, Darla? Darline. Darlene. And he's pretending that it's his apartment. And he's outed because there's a huge crash
Starting point is 00:18:02 from the bedroom. Okay. His mom has fallen off the bed. Like, it is a thump that is so loud and so unsettling. It's equivalent to the ladybugs
Starting point is 00:18:16 drop off the chair. Exactly. It's like, something happened. in there, like a person, like in my mind, like, she was drunk and had a little too much to drink, and she's watching her programs, and she fell, and you should
Starting point is 00:18:30 check on her. He doesn't move a muscle. No. He's not, and he finally has to, like, shamefully admit my mom's in there. But doesn't move to see that she's okay? The wig on Grace Zabriski is, and she is,
Starting point is 00:18:47 I mean, she is mere years away from her daughter Laura Palmer being ripped from her ripped from her body. One of the all-time great character actors of this era, Grace Sabriski, is amazing in this movie. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I would say that even when Chili is trying to be charming, there's something unnerving about him when he's in the kitchen eating the roast beef. This is a world in which everybody's clocking the roast beef. roast beef. And when the girl comes into
Starting point is 00:19:25 to get some post shower roast beefs, ooh, I just, I feel I'm so nice and clean now, let me just chow down on some roast beef. And she even holds it up and it looks like prop food that has been left around for a long time because it didn't
Starting point is 00:19:43 be terrible. But he smiles at her like, I wrote down like the Golden State Killer. She's just like, it's open mouth. Like, like, Maybe fangs will come out and now I will murder you. Well, he's hiding that last piece of roast beef that she's like, oh, I thought there was roast beef.
Starting point is 00:20:03 And he's like, and he just looks to the side and like, shoves a bunch in his mouth really fast. It was off-putting. It was very off-putting. I would say that everything sexual in this movie is off-putting. Every kiss, every... Well, we'll get to the sex scene, but that's sexy. I'm glad you brought this up in relation to the roast beef scene
Starting point is 00:20:23 because right before, there is a questionable exchange between this chick and her brother who yanks her out of the bathroom by her towel. What do you mean? Listen, there's a lot that's problematic about chili.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I mean, and by the way, the way he's handled is so, the character of chili, is so upsetting because he's, he's a violent man. And he, he is. He's a violent. man, he is unhinged
Starting point is 00:20:58 as a person. Sorry to skip ahead, but one of the last scenes when he's getting the other Claire off the stage, I mean, he's physically just intimidating her and is aggressive toward her. She has to leave. He just picks her up and, like, holds her
Starting point is 00:21:14 really tight. Threatens to hurt her physically, and she tosses her. I mean, it is, this is not a good person. This is just not a good person. But at least he's got talent. Nope.
Starting point is 00:21:32 But truly, he's a homophobic, misogynist. And by the way, the movie doesn't deal with that on any level. And let's just take the homophobia out of the equation for now. But just even his treatment of women throughout the movie is so terrible. And the way women, I mean, Darlene has no... standards. And it's treated like shit throughout. He does nothing
Starting point is 00:22:06 to redeem himself to her. And I mean nothing. Well, I would argue that... Or his friends. He's a bad person to her, to his friends. He's a bad... He is not... He is selfish and not generous to literally
Starting point is 00:22:20 anybody in the movie. Well, I would argue that in these movies, and I go back to cocktail and staying alive, both of those characters have similar journeys. Like, they want to get somewhere, they get somewhere, they become dicks, and then they come back to their life. But, well, staying alive is a little different.
Starting point is 00:22:36 But there's an element of charm to all of these people. And Chili seems to be the side character that you're like, he should not be, like, the lead should not be hanging out with chili. But Chili is the lead. It's like the movie should have been about someone else who just had a little bit more of a heart of gold. Yeah, Chile is like the bad influence friend. Yeah, yeah, Chili gets a little bit too much screen time
Starting point is 00:22:59 Because even like when they show him I mean, I don't even understand why he's with Darlene That whole relationship I don't get what either And why can't Darlene join Body Rock? She works at the hospital, she's got shit going on And there's some great ADR done in the hospital scene replacing fuck, I believe, with screw.
Starting point is 00:23:24 They had to get this down to a PG-13, or PG, I think I have that scene in the hospital, which is a great one here. Here we go. Are you going to have a break soon? I need to talk to you. Why don't you just go talk to your little freak? What little freak? What a rich girl?
Starting point is 00:23:42 What rich girl? The blonde, silly. How do you know about Claire? That's it. Just go and talk to Claire. Darling, they ain't no big thing. No, I think that's your problem. We don't even really talk.
Starting point is 00:24:01 You just screw. Basically. Why don't you just go screw her and talk to yourself? You know? Or if that doesn't do it for you, why don't you just go talk to her and go screw yourself?
Starting point is 00:24:18 Three screw yourselves. And then she really came around just because he grabbed her off state? I mean, why did she come around? Why did any of them take him back any time? He never owns his selfish mistakes. He never apologizes. There is nothing.
Starting point is 00:24:36 about his actions that tell me he deserved. He literally is thrown out of the, anyway, whatever, but like, he jumps down out of the rafters and is like, I'm here and everybody's like, what? We love him now. And it's like, no. He's a villain. I'm pretty sure Chili is a villain for all of you. He's hurt all of your lives.
Starting point is 00:24:58 They're like, you get in, and then you can bring us all up. And he's like, yes. And then he brings nobody up. Then he takes the victory for himself. but I'm going to pull everybody up and everybody's like, all right, I'm in. Never remembers to put them on a list. That's the, literally the least
Starting point is 00:25:12 he can do. But by the way, let's talk about this list for a club because what is this club? No idea. This is like a Sleep No More style dance numbers that, I don't know where the stage is at certain points. This is the largest club
Starting point is 00:25:28 that has ever existed. At one point they go up a giant escalator to another floor and then they're like in a private area of the club that's also the size of two stages. And the stage where they do the dance routines, they don't have dancers like on stage dancing to music. They have like performance pieces in black light with like tunnels and tubes.
Starting point is 00:25:52 But that's what I'm saying? Like where is it on? Are you chasing it like sleep no more? You're running around following the dancing? Because he literally walks into a, the crowd is, hey, it's chilly. Then he runs down a tunnel. And then the dance numbers are like, where did he go? Like, that's, that's the club.
Starting point is 00:26:08 That would be like if I just ran backstage and like, I'm doing the podcast and it ran out to the parking lot. It would not, it would be upsetting to you. Now listen, I, would I like to go to a club like that? Yeah, I would. I liked, I did like the giant boom box. Like a headset design, I thought it was terrific. There is some real, you know, stage value and performance happening.
Starting point is 00:26:34 How much are they flipping it, though? How much are they flipping it? How many days is the giant boom box there? And they're like, oh, we got a new new thing. Mummies. Great. I would like to believe that every night it is a new theme, completely new performance. Like, they're putting a lot of work in.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Listen, the one performance I really loved was the skeleton piece. Yes. That I thought was pretty cool. Amazing. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I mean, himself didn't contribute much to it. He's not a thing. No, as a matter of fact, you were. Marched in place. Yeah. Like, well, the director of this. movie is a music video director. As a matter of fact, this is the only movie
Starting point is 00:27:10 he ever directed. And now it all makes sense. Come on. Are you serious? You know, and he directed videos for Bon Jovi and Motley Crew. So I believe that he did capture the dancing well, and probably is the reason why the movie opens
Starting point is 00:27:25 with two back-to-back musical numbers without any dialogue. A very bold move, not to introduce your characters until you're about seven or eight minutes into the phone. Talking about all the negative stuff about Chile, we can be here all day,
Starting point is 00:27:41 but there's one person that we love, I think y'all love magic. Magic. I knew you were going to say magic. And I would argue, Jason, that this is where we see the redeeming side of Chile in his friendship with a young child. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Or you could argue that he is stealing Magic's talent, passing it off as his own to marginalize. His signature moves. He only teaches him the easy stuff. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:28:11 This is what's so weird about Terrence and the other investor. Donald? Donald. Donald, don't do drugs in here, Donald. Just don't do drugs in here, Donald. I'm certain that character is based on Donald Trump. Okay, because Donald fascinates me, and we could be here all night to just discuss Donald.
Starting point is 00:28:30 But what's so interesting is that they're not interested in magic. Like, why did they see that show and not want only magic out of everything they know? Now, here's my thought about that. Because when they go to see them at the breakdancing club, Magic's brothers are seemingly in, and I'm going to say a biker gang, because they are dressed like a biker gang people. And they're so into their little brother Magic that they're just bouncing the bottles on the bar. And then they break.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And when they break those bottles, they go immediately into a handshake. and I think that that frightened those guys off. They're like, oh, they broke those bottles. These people are too rowdy, we got to go. Yeah. I have a quick point to make now that you brought up of the slamming down of those bottles and this first performance,
Starting point is 00:29:16 which was really my only problem with the movie. For a movie about music and dancing... Is it? Dancing? No? It was especially lacking in rhythm. People? are off beat
Starting point is 00:29:36 all the time. So much of this movie. Most notably, chilly the first time he tries to rap sing and introduce the body rock crew. It's so off. And I would argue that those guys are also slightly offbeat
Starting point is 00:29:48 as they're trying to clang along. Well, I mean, the rapping in this movie is amazing. I would like to play that the second rap one, because I feel like that's where he's kind of like, where he's, yeah, sorry, where he's introducing the crew.
Starting point is 00:30:02 There we go. Raise your hands up high, Shouted out loud. I say, yeah. I said, yeah. I'm going to introduce to you another member of the body rock group. He's been with us
Starting point is 00:30:17 since he was 17. He's lean, he's mean, he's a rock machine. Like, I have it with my wreath and rap. I'm not on jazz with the best breakdown all the rest of color. J-A-M-A. That's all I can. I pause for two seconds.
Starting point is 00:30:30 It's a break down these first two performances. So, chilly, thoughts. Again, not on beat. what... To me, this is what it reads as. Like, I've done my share of musical theater, not to brag. But there's something called... What did you do?
Starting point is 00:30:51 Name the roles. I did Sweet Charity. I did Fiddler on the Root. You need more? Can we get a taste? Can we get a taste? Well, what I was going to say is not the time no, no, no, no. But I will say there's something called a marking rehearsal,
Starting point is 00:31:09 which is like, I'm going to give nothing Like, I'm going to give you nothing right now, and I'm going to mark. I'm going to, like, walk the beats, here I go, seven and eight. You haven't lost a step. Yes, but it's like, it's, I mean, I can do better than that. You're a marking. The marking rehearsal is just like, let's just get our marks. Let's go through the motions of what this is going to look like.
Starting point is 00:31:34 That's what this is. This is just a marking. It's like, oh, these are the words. this is sort of the rhythm. And we're going to go through it. Even if it is, it's unsuccessful. Totally. But that's all.
Starting point is 00:31:48 This is the finished product, though. Like, this is where they said, got it moving on. Yes. Like, moving on to the next thing. The one where Lorenzo Lammis is never on beat and the guy that comes in second is not on mic. Ever.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Yes, the guy who comes in second who actually can rap and is seemingly doing something amazing. I can't hear a word he's saying. I have no idea what's happening. Well, I would also argue here that this whole movie feels like, they're like, who could we get? They went through a list of names.
Starting point is 00:32:16 They landed on Lorenzo Lomas, and he's like, but I don't break dance and I don't rap. And they're like, don't worry about it. We're going to surround you with those people. We'll make you look good. We'll do it all. And then he gets to the scene. He's like, you know, I just feel uncomfortable committing.
Starting point is 00:32:33 He's like, just talk it. Just talk it. Be like the rock and Moana. Just get through that song. Just do it. And by the way, I like that song a lot. I like it a lot. it's a good song.
Starting point is 00:32:42 But it's like, just like, let's do that. And like, but you can't like talk through rap. It's, it's talking. Well, it's also difficult. It's also difficult because they do try and surround him with people that can sing, that can dance, that can rap, that can whatever. And, but the narrative
Starting point is 00:33:00 of the movie is that he becomes inexplicably the star having proven his value to be literally zero. And they've been. pointed out. Even his friend at the beginning is like, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:33:13 They make a big point of how he can do nothing. And after two minutes of this performance, the people are like, he's our guy. Nobody, I see nothing else. That's the guy who's going to headline our club. You are a goddamn idiot if you can't think that magic is the one. Like, take magic. Take that bigger guy.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Well, but then we're... Bump, butt on the ground. But then we are... You almost have to be, though, that this movie is about basically white people taking black culture and saying the white guy is the person that we will take. We won't take any of the minorities in his crew, even though he's a garbage monster. We need the guy in our place to be white for all the white patrons, I guess. It's a very white breakdancing crew. I mean, magic is the only, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:01 There's a guy I like to call white Luigi. And maybe that is not PC either. but he just has like a spoof of curly hair and a big mustache and he always looks like he's dressed like a plumber but with a midriff and a scarf and a scarf and he does a lot of arms and shoulders like a lot of chugga chugga chugga chugga
Starting point is 00:34:19 very dancer I want to talk about the guy that was not on mic that we talked about here his rapping is like I'm ribidi rapidy rapida bipidipa ribidi bibidi like he's not saying words and he's not rapping so fast that he's like it's not like
Starting point is 00:34:35 Eminem where he's like nailing out He's not saying actual words? No wonder I couldn't understand him. He's literally saying like ribbitty, ribbitty rat. Here, let's listen again. Here you go. Stop saying really. Like I have it with my wipper, rubble, I'm neck.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I'll stop my doctor on the job. Jam with the best. Break down all the rest of the rest of it. J.A. M.A. That's all right. In the beginning, it's... And he runs out of steam and just slows way down. He's saying like, really.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Like, I have it with my wiper, rap. I'm not. I'm saying my doctor. That's a lot of my job. I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah. I would love it if one of our listeners would transcribe this song and do it and do it as a like a plaintive folk ballad.
Starting point is 00:35:16 That and Vanishing Boys, which is awesome. Not mad at the music in this movie. I loved a lot of the music. Or the dancing. It must be said, the break dancers in the first sequence are awesome. The skeleton dancers are great. When they do that camera underneath the break dancers, like I guess they were on a glass floor or something, I thought that was pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:35:35 And then they do an overhead shot of just people helicoptering their legs in slow-mo for too long. Guys, I'm not going to lie. I took breakdance lessons at the YMCA. Oh, I had like, we would sit in my house and I would put down cardboard and we would watch Magnum P.I. And I would practice breakdancing moves. I would break dance in fifth and sixth grade in the halls at my elementary school. Wow. We would all break dance.
Starting point is 00:36:08 breakdance at Bar and Bat Mitzvah's, it was hot. Okay. I'm gonna see. Full little Greek boy mustache. Miami Vice style clothes at a bar mitzvah breakdancing. Do you remember any of those moves? Oh no, not at all. I'm gonna say something and you might be set by this. I would get hurt immediately.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Yeah. So I'm not a huge fan of the form breakdancing. Wow. Okay, cool. Wow. I mean, you mean my art form? Do you mean my craft? Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Interesting. Go ahead. I guess I'm curious like... Please continue. I will. I will. Oh, for the record, I hate musicals. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:36:50 That's fine. I just feel like I'm curious what happened in those classes. Because to me, I always think like it's just a bunch of gobbledygook. The dancing of break dancing? Break dancing. I'm like... No, there's like real... And maybe this is something terrible I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:37:08 now, but... There's, like, real technique and craft. Guys, as someone who, I mentioned earlier, recently learned to break dance for season two of Glow, it does actually take quite a bit of skill, June. I feel like...
Starting point is 00:37:23 I could do it without any practice. Body part, isolation, and fluidity. Should I do the worm? Yes. You think that's gobbledygook? You think this Danny McBride motherfucker is doing gobbledy good? I do. I do.
Starting point is 00:37:44 You think that's gobbledy good? That's Danny McBride, Stone Cold, crushing. Here's the thing. I feel like if I got myself into a state, if I got myself worked up enough, I can do that. Are you saying like, you believe. June, challenge accepted. New York City, bring your best.
Starting point is 00:38:09 When we're there, break off. I could get there. With no practice. Wait, are you saying, with no practice? No practice. We are going to battle so hard. Wait, let me ask you this. So do you think that what was happening in Wild Wild Country was break dancing?
Starting point is 00:38:27 Like they get so into it. That is an excellent question. They got worked up into a state. A state. Oh, where you can't help but like pop. Yes. And lock. I'm not worried.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I can do it. We are going to battle. Dismissively goes. I could do that. I could. All I know is that when we're next to New York, I want DJs, I want rappers, and I want two squares of linoleum.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I will say, we did talk a little bit about the music before. It's worth mentioning that the theme song peaked at number 48 on the Hot 100 chart, and Lorenzo Llamas also got on the Billboard 100 chart for the track, Fools Like Me. Both got in there in 1984, people. That is very depressing. 1984, is that when this came out?
Starting point is 00:39:23 Yes, this movie came out in 1984 the same year, Breaking, Yep. Breaking 2. Electric Bugaloo. Beat Street and Body Rock came out. But here's an interesting thing. Breaking and Breaking 2 same year.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Yeah. Wow. I remember I had the Beat Street record that had a pull-out poster of Breakdance moves in the record. Yeah. I mean, breaking two is my, I love that movie. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:51 That was the best. But there are no real moves, are there? Only clips. Wow. Wait, what did you say? Wow. What did you say? Wow.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Read it? Red it? Let's get this going. No, I don't feel like there are moves. You just get out there, you go and whatever happens happens. No. Couldn't you say the same? Couldn't you say the same about Merce Cunningham?
Starting point is 00:40:13 Couldn't you say the same? He's just starting and going. It looks like gobbledygook. I'm looking at it. you Martha Graham. I'm looking at you Twyla Tharp. I'm looking at Jew. That type of modern dance. No, no, no. That type of modern dance, like, I don't
Starting point is 00:40:26 think I could do successfully. I think I could do this. All right, I am pulling up Super Dancer, one of the best break dancers according to YouTube. Let's see if you feel the same way about Okay, all right. I will say, I will say those are the
Starting point is 00:40:48 moves I learned at the YMCA. Quick disclaimer. So I think that I can do the breakdancing moves in body rock. Yes. I think I could do those. Easily. Oh, man. I can't wait until we have a breakoff.
Starting point is 00:41:13 With any... You know what, June, I think you suffered the same fate as chili. You saw the easy route of breakdancing, and the fame went to your head. And, you know, what's next going to be? You're going to say, like, you want a cup of Folgers? When Chili is seen being his most dickish, she's like, a cup of Folgers would be tight. And you know that that's the exact same line
Starting point is 00:41:37 his mother says to him earlier in the movie. There's a number of instances where Chili says lines that other people have said to him throughout the movie. So when she's watching TV, she says, a cup of Folgers would be nice, and then he says it later. Can we just talk about that whole sequence
Starting point is 00:41:57 after Chili has sex with Sheila from a chorus line. That sex scene, I wanted, can we even to break in the sex scene? We can start with the sex scene, and then we definitely have to talk about his walking down the street and speaking straight to camera. Whoa, that was crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:17 His leather jacket, like, strut. Like, I was, like, I read online that he ripped 25 collars off of that jacket popping it so hard. He popped the collar every cut. Let's listen to the post-sex trench coat. Well, I don't even know what this is. What is this?
Starting point is 00:42:43 It's apparently, it's a very popular cut in Europe right now, he says. Oh, I'm not saying what is the outfit. I'm saying, what is this sequence where he starts straight up, Ferris Buellering the movie? I thought, I thought. it was like a commercial break in the middle of the movie. I was like, oh yeah, this is like a
Starting point is 00:43:03 1984. It made me uncomfortable. I was like, don't talk to me. Can he see us? It's like when you make eye contact with a performer. Does he know I'm jerking off? Just at the number of popping
Starting point is 00:43:20 of the collars? It's not a commercial. You think it's a commercial. It doesn't make any sense of what this is. It could end with, so come on down to Wilson Leather. And I'd be like, cool, man, I will. The only leather that will is strand 20 pops of your color, guaranteed.
Starting point is 00:43:40 I like to think that the director was really, that was his super creative moment. Like, we'll get him through the window of the car as it rolls down and like, you know, down from the fire escape. Very artistic. I mean, and that's the thing about this director, I feel like, the end. angles are very music video, but the
Starting point is 00:43:58 putting it together as a movie is where it got fishy. Yes, yes. Like, by the way, I do like the art, like when he's with the, you know, this woman, this she's an artist. Like, her apartment, I just noticed in the background, is a paint platform, is their bed.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Like, it's something that you would build to, like, paint like a ceiling. It's like a paint platform. And like, and that's the bed. It's in the corner. I was like, cool, man. She's an artist. She sleeps on a high. A high-level paint platform. And also him smoking weed seems so, like, really taking it in.
Starting point is 00:44:37 But this sex scene, so they, you know, this is, you know. The zippers, the pointless zippers. So many zippers. He's, like, enveloping her, like, tweaking her. See, unzips? The double-boof zipper, the infamous. There's a sexual move that is to unzip her breast pockets. Well, like, she's...
Starting point is 00:45:03 And then when they... And then she has to unzip the main jacket herself, because he did nothing. Also, I'm just now noticing, are the windows painted that way? As I'm saying, she's an artist. There's art everywhere. She can't stop.
Starting point is 00:45:18 So they're, like, having sex dancing. And then he takes off... This is weird. And then he's immediately naked. He's in like a jumpsuit that he only half takes off. But he definitely is not wearing underwear. No underwear. And it's a rough scene.
Starting point is 00:45:38 It was a rough scene for me to watch the 15 times I saw it. This is like, this is what sex is, right? Yeah, don't you just wave your arms? Just lots of arm, maybe. Make a couple of squeakly lines. And then lowering her to the floor. and then standing and looking off into the distance. I mean, he really also presents his body.
Starting point is 00:46:03 She still has her clothes on, and he's, you know he's completely naked. Yeah, yeah. And with a massive hard on. Oh, totally. Wow, massive, Paul? Massive? All right, man, be cool. Massive.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Oh, and he's just got this rock hard horse cock. Oh, okay, Shear, what's up? I say massive because I don't believe that chili is ever not erect. Okay, Paul, I'd like to see the rest of your notebook pages, please? Well, you can see there's some drawings. Mr. Paul Chili. Some drawings of like different pants and just things and then there's, I don't know, I mean, this is like, yeah, I mean some hypothesis of what like Chili's,
Starting point is 00:46:55 Cock and balls look like. Oh, man, Chili's got those cum gutters with his massive hard-on, T.M. Paul Shear. I did, I do have a, I did like kind of a thought of what a cock ring would look good on chili, like different cockering. Oh, you know he's got that big, thick, vainy cock. Chili.
Starting point is 00:47:24 I'll let the people from London take a look at it. They can verify. Uh, okay, June. So, so June, um, I haven't, June's gone. In other ways, it seems like maybe she's just Donald's whore. But I would argue. Okay. Cock, by the way.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Not as massive as chilies. Yeah, oh, Paul, did you want to run down your cock list size for the guys? Great cock, easy, excellent cock. Terrence, not so great, but he knows how to use it. Jamma. Works for him. And then, of course, Snake, of course. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Listen, I do believe that Claire, I don't think she's a kept woman. I don't know, though. I mean, I did, you know, when she's working out the moonwalk in her apartment, I did feel like she is leading a creative life and there was something of, and she's partying, and I was very interested in that lifestyle. Look, you didn't let me finish.
Starting point is 00:49:12 I'm sorry. I would argue that she is actually in a power position with Donald and Terrence more than anyone. She's like the one who gets this amazing performance at the end. seemingly give her whatever she wants. And I would like to say that her performance at the end of the movie
Starting point is 00:49:31 is so much better than anything Chilli ever does. And they're watching and they're like, she's ripping off chili. I was like, is she? She's doing it better. Let her do it because she's good. She's covering smooth talker
Starting point is 00:49:48 or whatever the fuck that song was. And it is so much better. It's so good. It seems like a different song and she's doing like she can't do the breakdancing. She's just doing amazing dancing. I loved her.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Well, let's see what you all thought about this film. We'll go out here for the newly titled segment of the show, double takes. This is your double take moment here. All right, sir, your breakdancing name and your question. I think probably just like privileged, untalented white guy. That would be your breakdancing name. Yeah, I'd go by it.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I was constantly confused by the ages of all these. characters in the movie. Like I feel like it opens and they're doing like what high schoolers would do. They're like tagging this thing and then later and then they're running around with a child and later it's revealed that like she's a doctor. Which makes no sense. Like how old are these people? And also like is Claire 30 or 80?
Starting point is 00:50:42 Like I have no idea. Regardless she looks great. It's great. It looks great. Anybody over here? Anybody over here? Alright. Here, you come here from the middle of the aisle.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Is Darlene a doctor a friend? full doctor. I sort of thought she was a nurse or just like a clerk. Yeah, I thought of her work was more administrative. Yeah, that's a better way to say it. At the most at this point, I feel like she's maybe an RN. Ma'am, maybe she's an RN. Well, on RN's a very, like, important position.
Starting point is 00:51:18 You said at the most. I mean, RN is, that's... I'm not trying to take away. Okay. Apologies to... Yeah. My mother was an RN. Yes, be a registered nurse is no fucking joke.
Starting point is 00:51:30 The amount of medical training, Meg. She's probably, then she's probably a doctor. I don't know. All right, ma'am, your break dancing name and your question. Well, I feel like now it has to be like doctor break or something. But I didn't understand why they couldn't get in, like his friends couldn't get in, but then in the final scene, all his friends are in the club. No idea.
Starting point is 00:51:51 We couldn't get on the list. I assume magic put them all on the list. Well, and it was like a huge event, right? that magic tells him about. And I also was confused as to why that's happening at Terrence's club. It's because it was Chili's idea. Oh, it was his idea originally. Chile had the idea to have like a, what's it called?
Starting point is 00:52:14 Stravaganza. Rap stravaganza that they then decided to do, but then they kicked Chili out, but they did it anyway. Can I also say in that moment, no one's going to care about this, but you know, Donald, the character, doesn't really speak. the whole movie, even though he's like this all
Starting point is 00:52:33 powerful guy, which I kind of was like, hey, Terrence, maybe you could have mentioned like that's who that old guy was that was hanging out. And until the very end of the movie when they're like, get him out of here. And his voice is like, what? He has the highest picture. Like, oh, maybe they cut all his lines
Starting point is 00:52:52 because... But by the way, they keep that... They keep that stare down between Chile and Donald. Like, I was like, wow, this is still going on. Also, Donald is always in a tuxedo. He's never not. How else would we know he was rich? That's true.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Sir, your breakdancing name? Your question? My breakdancing name would be kilowatt. My question is... No further questions? I don't know if June is a child labor expert, but I was concerned about Magic working at the club late at night,
Starting point is 00:53:32 and his supervisor is his 10-year-old sister? Good question. So, Magic's age, too, though, was in question to me. because there were certain shots where I was like, oh, he's nine. And then there were other shots of him where I was like, is he 18? Like, I wasn't totally sure how old magic was. I think probably closer to nine. I would say like 12.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Like I would put him at like, you know, like. He looked great for his age. Yeah. He looked terrific. I think we all agree. Magic looked great. He looked great. Sir, your break dancing name, your question.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Super white and there were so many lines of dialogue in this movie that were completely unintelligible and not just like, not pointless ones. Like, he's intimately, he's intimately like in there face to face with his girlfriend, he was like,
Starting point is 00:54:31 there you go. Cut scene. I agree with you. is a lot of bad sound recording. It's the only movie that I noticed rain on a camera lens ever. When they're walking on the docks
Starting point is 00:54:51 they're like, there's rain on the lens. Never seen that. There's also terrible lighting in like the last half of the the last third of the movie has like, occurs mostly in just darkness. There are so many times I watched this on my computer
Starting point is 00:55:06 where I kept on like trying to get the brightness up and I was already at Mac. Well, again, we can't fault the transfer Because if this was the proper 4K treatment that we all want... Oh, listen, I'm watching it in 240P on a fucking YouTube window Just like put a bullet in my head Not only do I have to watch this piece of shit I have to watch it in low-res
Starting point is 00:55:34 Twice? And they made me... They're making me do it twice? That's crazy. On a dial-up modem? All right, ma'am, your breakdancing name and your question. Chili's parenthetical, actually the restaurant. So Little Luigi is actually Renee Elizondo,
Starting point is 00:56:01 who is married to Janet Jackson on the down low. And I'm wondering if his association. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. Allegedly. If his association with this movie was enough to keep it down and buried underlieb. Or is that? the reason why they're together because he was in this movie.
Starting point is 00:56:20 I mean, yeah, marrying into body rock is a very rare thing. Yes, sir, your breakdancing name, your question. Breakdancing name is just a lot of shoulders. And question, and I think the answer is yes. Do you think working on this movie might make someone want
Starting point is 00:56:38 to change their career path? Fair question. Do you know something we don't? Oh, hold on. I posit that the director of photography of this movie saw a business owner using his
Starting point is 00:56:54 power, abusing it for sexual gain, changed his career path from DP to federal prosecutor because the director of photography of this movie is called Robert Mueller. Amazing. It's a long walk.
Starting point is 00:57:12 It's a long walk. I don't know. They seem to have appreciated it. A medium on it. That is good work to find out the DP. You know, we mentioned a rap stravaganza. But you said it's Robert Mueller, not Robert Mueller. There's an oomelop in the opening credits. He said there was an umlaf in the opening credits.
Starting point is 00:57:38 It could have also just been the way it buffered. It may not have been an oomack. The tagline of this movie was a rap stravaganza movie with dynamic music, exclamation point. Spectacular dance sequences, exclamation point. That is the tagline. So if you were to rent body rock or see it. 48% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Not that bad. Not bad. For a movie that's essentially impossible to find in high-res, I'm amazed. Budget, we don't know. Opening weekend, though, in 1984, it made $630,000. and the domestic gross was 1.6 million,
Starting point is 00:58:25 which based on everything I'm seeing, I feel like that was a success. If you told me it cost them $18,000 to make this movie, I would believe you. A lot of it appears to just be B-roll that they stole of them walking on the streets of New York. Well, now here is something interesting. So the top three movies of 1984,
Starting point is 00:58:46 Beverly Hills Cop, Ghostbusters, Indiana Jones, and the Temple of Doom. this movie came in oh this movie was beat by Rhinestone streets of fire and runaway things we've done in the show and it beat nothing so so maybe it was a little bit lower
Starting point is 00:59:02 yeah so that's what we know about those are the stats of of body rock but you know what we certainly had an opinion about this movie but we don't have the only opinion it is now time for second opinions
Starting point is 00:59:17 I watch movies and it's all I can do on Amazon I read all the reviews these film you have the best audience in the house people out here in costume you guys are in costume out there
Starting point is 01:00:21 great costumes I love it very rarely do we get people in full costumes do you have some chest hair burst out there too do you have what's on your back stand up turn around whoa it says chili
Starting point is 01:00:35 he's got a chili He disted a number of collarpots. That jacket's actually very big in London right now. Can I ask you, can I ask you a question? Are you prepared to break dance? No. He cannot break this, but neither can Lorenzo Lama. I was going to give you a shot.
Starting point is 01:00:53 I was going to give you your shot, man. You're one shot to make it in the biz of breaking. We've got to bring you up here when we take pictures at the end. Just have you facing your, yeah, we got to see that jacket. All right, so here's the thing, people. This movie is hard to find. right? So Amazon is not full of reviews and the ones that were five stars are clearly facetious.
Starting point is 01:01:19 You know, so you know, then they get like, you know, then they get really angry too. It's like, you know, from like Peter O7 who titles his review, Llamas is an idiot. Or knows who just, doctor knows, who says, body yuck so
Starting point is 01:01:41 not really a great world there for that but I do have a review that I pulled from IMDB so this one is pretty great
Starting point is 01:01:54 and it's one a little bit longer than most but we can stop and start in the fine tradition of early hip hop culture films such as rapping breaking, breaking two Beat Street
Starting point is 01:02:05 Wild style Style Wars not to mention mixed blood, Alphabet City, and even Gloria, although definitely more akin to the first four films mentioned, Body Rock is more than a worthy companion to those well-known films. Chili, D. is a kid? Question mark. From the New York Streets, who doesn't have a lot of money,
Starting point is 01:02:30 but he has a big dream to make it big with his crew of dancers and rappers, the Body Rock crew. Through some street-wise tenacity, as well as a Lucky Breaker 2, Chili Cheez's dream, but at what cost? He stops keeping it real, and starts spending all of his time with these uptown snobs
Starting point is 01:02:48 for getting his downtown roots. He even moves out of his old neighborhood and into a ritzie lop with his new snobby lady, causing a riff between him and his true love, not to mention alienating the entirety of his once-beloved body rock crew. Will Chili lose his soul and become a sellout, or will he connect with his roots
Starting point is 01:03:06 and pop and lock his way into glory. Everything about body rock is great. The music is infectious, toe-tapping, and fun, assuming you don't jump out of your seat and start breaking right there on the floor. Which actually, maybe, because there wasn't a whole bunch of rap music at the time encompasses a wide variety of genre.
Starting point is 01:03:29 There's rap, dance, new wave, and even Power Pop represented. And then it goes on to talk about the, the fashions and then the dancing and he goes, the little boy magic gets some great moves off and is very charming, especially when he's teaching Chile how to dance, including the fan favorite sit-down dance. Also, the dancer in Chile's crew that looks like Reno 9-1-1's Thomas Lennon
Starting point is 01:03:52 gives it all he's got and proves once and for all you could be a middle-aged white guy with a wife and kids and a mustache and still laid down some funky moves. And then it says, New York, business review is three pages, and it's, we're on the last page. It's broken down to sections. The sections that I just read were music, fashion, and now we're on New York City locations. Keeping it street, there are a lot of New York locations that captured all in their 80s glory. And it says, you can even see billboards for romancing the stone playing in Times Square.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Great. And then, okay, this is the final line here. From the opening of the film when the body rock crew are dancing their way across the street, to the spray painting of the subway cars, to the dance sequences, to the training sequences, to Chili's Downfall, where it becomes a pot-smoking low life to the final rap stravaganza,
Starting point is 01:04:52 which is basically the whole movie. You can't just say two, two, two, two, two, two. You'd be like, from the beginning of the movie when Indiana Jones finds that thing to when he goes back to school, to the moment where he goes, finds the other thing, to where he goes over here. That's the movie.
Starting point is 01:05:03 You just described the movie. It's awesome, especially if you're an 80s freak like me, you will have a lot to feast on with the underrated body rock. Don't just watch it tonight. Live it tonight. That's great life advice. That is creatively adding a backstory for the man with the mustache. We don't know that he's married with kids, right?
Starting point is 01:05:34 Yeah. We don't know. Maybe there's a line that we... We can't... Wow. You met. Ellie, are you mad at me? I'm fine.
Starting point is 01:05:45 What? Oh, God. Are you sure you're okay? Everything's fine. Oh, no. Final thoughts. Final thoughts. Anyone any final thoughts? Things that are you not covered, things you wanted to talk about, that we get a chance to.
Starting point is 01:05:58 I just want to say that in the second song, this sounds like something very specific to say as a final thought. Yes. But it's been on my mind. Of course. Speak your truth. that the movie starts with the body rock song and then it goes into a song about graffiti
Starting point is 01:06:17 and they reference Shakespeare and Moses? I wrote that down. What about Shakespeare is, have you heard about Shakespeare? He wrote a lot of good stuff. And it says, brother Moses was all right. He wrote some good stuff. They rhyme good stuff with good stuff.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Yeah, that was pretty... That's my final thought. That's a great one. A great one. indeed, June? Anything for you? I mean, I know I've said some things about the form of break dancing
Starting point is 01:06:48 tonight. In thinking about it further and having a couple minutes to reflect on it, I feel like I want to amend my statement from before from earlier. I think,
Starting point is 01:07:02 with the exception of magic's moves in this film, I could do the rest of the break dancing. I just want to make that Clear. So magic is a real dancer
Starting point is 01:07:15 and everybody else is just doing gobbledygook. Gobblety gock. And if I was stated, I could easily do it. If I got myself into the right state. You have to go to
Starting point is 01:07:27 Wild Country, get in that zone. If I got worked up enough, I could do it. Jason? With the exception of magicist. I, you know, this was, this was a real roller coaster for me. You know, it really, it hit a lot
Starting point is 01:07:42 of my nostalgia buttons just from my old break in days, you know. You know, I feel like I came here and had my first, what I would consider, my first art form maligned by one of my dearest friends. I want to say something. I want to speak to that.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Because I do, what I feel badly about is I do think that for a lot of little girls, they have so many outlets to dance. You know, they have jazz, they have ballet. And I feel like for boys, they don't have many outlets. Yeah. And at the time you were coming,
Starting point is 01:08:16 of age break dancing was a way for you to express express yourself physically I know I see that there I was 12, 13 years old wanting to express
Starting point is 01:08:29 how artistically express how I felt and how I was engaging with the world in my tiny mustache and trying to figure out the way my body was changing
Starting point is 01:08:39 and expressing and those bar and bat mitzvahs god just trying to finger girls up behind the dumpsters unsuccessfully in a pink collared shirt
Starting point is 01:08:53 it doesn't matter there were espadrills involved guys Miami Vice was a thing I know I also want to say that I have a correction and omission from something I said earlier
Starting point is 01:09:05 I said Bill Moses was a dancer I think I meant Bill T. Jones there's that before I get a bunch of harassing on the street I wanted to bring up one thing that I thought was interesting. At the end, when Chili breaks into the club for the rap stravaganza, the audience in the club is all on board.
Starting point is 01:09:27 They're clapping and cheering, and then the music stops, and then it's silent, and then his girlfriend, she does the one clap thing. Yeah, the slow clap. But you don't need a slow clap when the whole audience is on your side. Like, he didn't win them over.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Well, because they cut out the music, this was like now the crowd was going to create the beat, but I would like to point out again, it was very offbeat. There were two different sets of claps. So she starts like, bah, and then other people like, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but,
Starting point is 01:09:59 and then other people like, but, but, but, but it turned into applause. Oh, I didn't realize that she was trying to start the beat. Yeah, that's what I thought, too. But it didn't matter, because then it turned into give us back the music and break, which was the chance that the audience then starts doing to get Terrence to turn back them. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:10:20 I'm going to say, I don't know that I would recommend people watch this movie. No, no. I'll say right into it. I would say not. I mean, I would definitely listen to the song Vanishing Boys on repeat because I thought it was great. Or just the body rock theme. Body rock.
Starting point is 01:10:36 I may buy the soundtrack if I can find it. If there's a Spotify playlist, I might listen to it. I would listen to this music. and breakdance around my house just because it's a valid form of expression. And I mean, I would do the moves that I learned that are real moves. I mean, listen, to me it was always like,
Starting point is 01:10:59 I'm going to say something that's going to be really harsh. But whenever I see someone breakdancing, I feel embarrassed for them. Did you feel embarrassed for that breakdancer I just showed you? Wow. Did you feel embarrassed? I don't define what he was doing as breakdancing. Okay, what is he doing?
Starting point is 01:11:21 I define breakdancing as like getting on the floor like a turtle. Like you're a turtle that can't flip over and just spinning around. So you equate breakdancing. You equate breakdancing with helplessness? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I do. I'm stuck down here. I can't turn over.
Starting point is 01:11:43 I want to make this clear. It's not that I don't. You know, I'm not someone who loves, like, high art and ballet and all that stuff. Like, this, I see where this is going. And I, I want to dispel that myth right away. Like, there's, I love where breakdancing came from and all that. I just, I find it unpleasant to watch. So are you just saying, like, this type of break dancing?
Starting point is 01:12:06 This is, I'm going to play another. I'm going to argue there's a level of difficulty that is, absolutely, absolutely. I don't think you can judge it. you're breaking in season two. It's not very good. And that's where I want to say that when you try to learn stuff like this, then you realize the value
Starting point is 01:12:28 because it's very difficult. So just because something is difficult doesn't mean that it's good. That's my opinion. I'm not going to lie, that's a T-shirt. We've got three T-shirts. Available now on T-Public. Wow.
Starting point is 01:12:57 All right, so I would recommend you do watch this movie. Boy, oh boy. Wow. All right. Let's get the plugs. Allison, what do you want to talk about? Anything? Oh, Glow's Season 2
Starting point is 01:13:10 featuring me breakdancing, a very small amount all episodes on Netflix, June 29th. Very exciting. Very soon, very soon. That's very exciting. Well, Grace and Frankie season four is on Netflix right now. No break dancing.
Starting point is 01:13:29 I've got nothing to plug, but I do want to say Tom King, Mitch Jared's, I see what you're doing out there. I don't like it. Get back to work. That's what I'm saying. Great. And also, I wanted to tell you guys to subscribe to, I'm doing a podcast miniseries with Amy Nicholson
Starting point is 01:13:48 called Unspooled, where we are watching the AFI's Top 100 movies. It's the converse of this show. We are actually watching good movies, which I found to be incredibly refreshing. Like, whatever. I have to watch one of those movies, like, this is great. And I feel smarter and better
Starting point is 01:14:08 and lighter afterwards. So that is my cleanse and this is my junk food. So we are doing that. You can subscribe right now, wherever you listen to podcasts. And that is all a big thanks to Averallie, who cut all these amazing clips. Nate Kylie did all the amazing research for a movie that is practically unavailable.
Starting point is 01:14:27 So that is great. Everybody up in the booth, Kelly Alto. And thank you, Al, for coming. Thank you.

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