How Did This Get Made? - Date with an Angel LIVE!

Episode Date: February 13, 2026

Phoebe Cates, Michael E. Knight, and Emmanuelle Béart star in 1987's Date with an Angel—a rom-com about an engaged guy who falls in love with a voiceless angel who loves to smoochy smoochy. LIVE fr...om Minneapolis (in Nov 2023!), Paul, Jason, and June discuss the party ninjas, the love bug singing telegram, the usage of the word "heinie", the engagement party that was almost an elderly bloodbath, and so much more. Plus, June and Paul reminisce about their own date with a personal sushi chef who loved Subway tomatoes.  • Get up to 20% off tix to see Jason in ALL OUT on Broadway with code ALLOUTPOD at AllOutBroadway.com• Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Listen up, piss head! If you want a romantic comedy, look no farther. We saw my date with an angel, so you know what that means? For the first time ever in Minnesota, and while it might be a little cold outside, we are here to warm your heart with a romantic comedy about a man with a brain tumor. who falls in love with an angel with a broken wing.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Now, there's so much to say about this movie that came out in 1987. Is it a splash rip-off? Yes. Even though the people behind the movie said, we wrote it way before Splash. But it came out after, so I don't believe that that is true. But we're going to break down everything. And we have so much supplemental material. I can't wait to dig into this movie.
Starting point is 00:02:13 but before I can, I must introduce you to my co-host. Please welcome to the stage, Mr. Jason Manzoukas. What's up, jerk? Jason. Huh. Huh. Huh. I'm exhausted already.
Starting point is 00:02:50 It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. A great cold. I wore a gloves. I loved it. It was brisk. It was brisk.
Starting point is 00:02:58 I loved every goddamn minute of it. I walked here. I loved every minute of it. Jason. Top three movies of 1987. Date with an angel. Date with an angel. Date with an angel. You would be right. I will say this. I remember it well. 1987?
Starting point is 00:03:20 1987 is a great year for this show. Wow. All right, there you go. Great year for the show. Beverly Hills Cop 2 Platoon Fatal Traction. That's not on our show. That's the top three movies of the year. But listen to this. 1987, garbage pale kids' movie, hard ticket to Hawaii, Miami Connection, Tough Guys Don't Dance, Munchies, Running Man, Superman 4, Hello Mary Lou, My Demon Lover, Made in Heaven, Jaws 4, Over the Top, and Masters of the Universe. No, wait a minute. And in that list, we did Munchies. We did all those.
Starting point is 00:04:01 What? We've done all those movies? We've done all of those movies. All of those sound terrible. 87, great year for movies, and I cannot believe we've waited this long to talk about this one, a movie that was in my memory, but I never saw. And I want to see if someone else might have that same memory. Please welcome my other co-host.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Miss June, Diane Rayfiel! Welcome, June. I get it. It was the angel. I missed it. I wasn't paying attention for a second. That was amazing. You know what?
Starting point is 00:05:05 As a matter of fact, it makes me want to just jump into one of the supplemental clips I have, but I wait. June, where do you fall? Do you remember this movie? So what it started, I said to Paul in the hotel room, I said, I feel like I've seen this before. And I had an experience watching it where I was like, I have seen this movie before. This is the worst thing I've ever seen. My favorite movie. I love this movie.
Starting point is 00:05:34 How long do I have till it's over? I hope it never ends. I really was fraught the whole time. This movie is a roller coaster ride. At every turn, I was like, oh, it's not what I thought. Wait a minute. Wait, who is this a love story for? The fact that the entire-
Starting point is 00:05:54 Who are these people? The fact that the entire movie changes on a dime in the last two minutes. Yes. I couldn't believe it. And explains everything. Yes. Everything gets explained in 30 seconds, then hard cut to credits. I was like, wow, okay movie. That's the thing. This movie goes there. This movie takes risks and there's a like a woodland nymph scene and there are, I think, like baby lions.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Yeah, there's a skunk. I believe she suckles a fawn. I'm 90% sure that Emmanuel Bear suckles a fawn. Yes. This movie was not cheap because they're on a giant soundstage and they are literally doing live action Bambi. I mean, the way that they're living amongst creatures.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Like, legit, like a bear. Like, you can't just be hanging out near a baby bear because when you hang out near a baby bear, the mama bear is going to be close. But that's what I'm saying. When you're watching, when you're rather watching the beginning of this movie and they're in the town and they're doing this,
Starting point is 00:07:10 you don't even imagine that act three would be a snow white in the forest, nuzzling animals, and then becoming an angel and flying around and then zapping people with lightning? I was like, hang on. And pushing people. pushing people hard.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Yes, you're an angel. Kicking people in the ass. June. Hine. Hine. Oh, I'm sorry, Hiney. Hiney was used so much. I wrote it down each time because I was like, we need to bring Hiney back.
Starting point is 00:07:47 We need to be like, oh, check out the Hiney on this one. I mean, let's take a look at the Hiney. Clip 10. Come on. Come on, you got to show yourself. You kicked me my heinie. Where are you? Look, there's no need for this.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Don't do this. Nobody ever kicks me in my heinous. He did. What? Sat at a typewriter, not even a computer, and was like, yep, heinie, heinie. My guess is it was written longhand, and somebody was handed pages and was like, da-da-da-da-da-again? Just transcribing me. four Heinis in a row from multiple people?
Starting point is 00:08:45 Now, I have to say, I think that Phoebe Kates deserves an Oscar for this performance. Give her... Give her an Oscar. She's up in here looking like a millennial who is eating ass. She... Is that blood or dirt on her face?
Starting point is 00:09:03 It's dirt from getting face planted after the hyanian. I thought it was blood, too, from getting... And it's so crazy, because I don't know. There's so much to talk. I'm so worried about time. I'm like, are we going to have enough time? This clock's not on. We are out of time.
Starting point is 00:09:18 We are in no time. But I think the movie wants us to believe that she's the wrong choice. But she's so goddamn appealing and so wonderful. She's acting, oddly, the most normal out of anyone. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. The movie should be about Phoebe Kate's, who is being like blown off by her
Starting point is 00:09:44 promontes. He is leaving her high and dry for an angel? I'm so sorry. No. But I would argue in splash, does he have, is he engaged? Is he getting married? Right? No. Why give him? Why?
Starting point is 00:10:01 Well, here's what I would argue. That they even make a weirder and worse choice, which is he's not in love with her yet. Like I feel like in the beginning he's like, I just want to take care of her and then he falls in love with her. So I feel like his instincts are true. Like, I just want to help this angel, even though he made out with her when he thought he was asleep. But I feel like he has nothing untoward until he's... You seem really okay with that. When he thought, when he thought he was dreaming, he was like, I guess I'm in a dream.
Starting point is 00:10:31 He did say, I think I'm in a dream. You know what he doesn't think he's dreaming? When he double peeps at her when she's in the water. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, are we going here? To me, I think that that was the moment he finally fell in love. I was like, you needed to get to that moment. In my mind, I'm like, how is this angel going to bring and heal he and Phoebe Kate's back together? Right. Like, how is, nope, the angel's like, my guy. Goodbye.
Starting point is 00:11:01 And that's what's hard too about the angel's character. She's a devil. Or maybe she's human and that's what happens. I don't know. But it's so hard because. I never thought that she was that into him until the very end. Like, I was like, this angel, he's misunderstanding. Like, she just likes Smoochies.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Like, she loves to kiss. And... Right, she does come down. She just loves... She just loves... She just loves Smoochis. She just loves Smoochis. Just an angel, a silhouette of an angel and goes, I love Smoochies.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Because from the moment they met, she just seemed to want to kiss him, but it didn't seem like she, I guess I felt like she'd want to kiss anyone if she was in that close proximity to them and if they weren't trying to like throw a net around her and steal her. Yes, as long
Starting point is 00:11:55 as they're not, this is a movie that exists in a time frame in which the lead guy is always like I'm a guy, I'm trying to be better than my past or whatever and all of his friends are complete psychopaths. Okay, no. All of his friends in this movie are murdered,
Starting point is 00:12:11 Psychopaths, they treat her like an animal, like an animal or a baby. It's ET, it's ET and Splash split together. They even do a phone home joke? Yes, they do. Phoebe Kate says drop dead at one point? Yes, she does. As if it's drop dead Fred? I was like, what the fuck is going on?
Starting point is 00:12:33 Well, I will say this. You know, just to even walk it back, the beginning of the movie starts with what I'm assuming is God saying, go down there, you've got to get your man, go get him, he's ready. And I'm like, okay. And in my entire time, I was like, oh, he was an angel, and they're going to go.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Like, I didn't think that this man was dying. Like, that's the twist. It's like, go get that dying man. And if she, so was he going to die the night of his bachelor party? No, yeah, the night of the engagement party, she is supposed to, at the very end of the movie, he shows no symptoms.
Starting point is 00:13:11 We find out she was sent to earth to collect his soul so that he can ascend to heaven. Then why doesn't the guy mention having a headache once? He falls asleep a couple. He does. He does. He does repeatedly talk about headaches and he keeps trying to take pills. Oh, I saw him take pills. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:29 But it's weird because it seems like he's hung over. Yes. We think he's been out for a night of drinking. Nobody is believing that he has crippling headaches, even though he says it repeatedly. Okay. I don't remember that. Ooh, I just thought of something. Do you think she's trying to kiss him and it's the kiss of death?
Starting point is 00:13:48 Oh. Oh. But you think that's why she keeps trying to kiss him? But she does kiss him right out of the gate. So she doesn't really love Smoochies? Smoochies equal to death? You know, that's really interesting. The kiss of death is more for the Grim Reaper, right?
Starting point is 00:14:05 Like a soul sucker. Like a death eater. I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I mean, if the angel comes to take you away, do they... I mean, I wouldn't mind if they gave me a smooch. I wouldn't mind if my death and ascendancy to heaven was greeted with a kiss.
Starting point is 00:14:24 With smoochies. Yeah, that's lovely. Yeah. From a stranger? Who looks like a manual bear? Yes. Okay. 100%, who I very first saw in the French movie, Manon de Sorce,
Starting point is 00:14:38 which was played in my high school French. class and featured quite a bit of nudity? I was like, I'm so glad I took French. This is all I'll say. I also took French. We didn't have anything that exciting, but I did once bring in for a school project as a kid, Clash of the Titans. And that had nudity. And no one knew even myself, and we didn't know how to react to it because we were too young.
Starting point is 00:15:07 We were in fifth grade. And all of a sudden, boom! And it was like, ah! So you didn't know. I didn't know. Oh, that's great. And we just all collectively agreed that we didn't see it. Like, the class, like, ooh!
Starting point is 00:15:26 And the teacher never mentioned it, because I think the teacher was afraid that she would have gotten in trouble if she didn't vet Clash of the Titans. But honestly, why were their boobs in Clash of the Titans? Why aren't there boobs in every movie? Here's what I'll say about this movie, though. They set up a gun in Act 1, and they pay off the gun in Act 3, which is, it was so odd to be in this fancy house with a gun rack.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Like, an old school, like, Midwest. Yeah. When she falls down the stairs holding a shotgun, I was like, what the fuck are we up to right now? But it's also a loaded shotgun. Like, that shotgun is loaded in a clock. In a closet, in like a hallway closet. And this movie, this... Every single person in this movie is absolutely out of control crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Her father is sexually obsessed with her. Until he's sexually obsessed with the angel. Like he's very easily swayed. It's all business for him. But the engagement party, when Phoebe Kates comes down the stairs, passed the giant portrait of herself, which I would pay thousands of dollars to own the portrait of Phoebe Kates that is in this movie.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Not a reproduction, the actual painting from this movie. I was like, this is incredible. When he starts pulling out the makeup or the whatever, the ad campaign and grabbing her, and I was like, what the, fuck is going on here. This is BB Cates' movie. And it's not. It's not at all.
Starting point is 00:17:18 And he's purring at her, which was so stressing. And it also felt like this is their engagement party. There was no one under 60 in that room. I was weird out about that. But then as you're taking that in, as you're loading
Starting point is 00:17:34 that into your head, all of a sudden you see terrorists in a car. You're like, wait. Hold on. what? And we've already just come from heaven. So we're like heaven. Engagement party. Terrorists. You're like it is. That's
Starting point is 00:17:51 five minutes. That's to me why this movie is a masterpiece. Because it's going places. Now, I did, yes, did I think to myself, I wonder if it's his bachelor party. But for a second, I didn't know. And I was like, oh, is this
Starting point is 00:18:06 going to be like an elderly bloodbath? Like what? What is going to happen? This is fun. If this is the movie, what a blast. If it's terrorists come and kidnap the groom, the groom who's outside in the rain playing harmonica, like he's fucking Bruce Willis in 1987 with a blues career?
Starting point is 00:18:29 I was like, what the fuck is this? Well, this is what I couldn't understand. I mean, keep in mind the whole time he's dying of a growing tumor in his head. But which does sort of explain. behavior, yeah. Knowing that he has the tumor, you almost believe the angel was a vision. Absolutely. That would be great if no one else saw her, but she's very much real, and she's very much as an angel. Like, the tumor is just the reason that she's there, but she is real. Make no mistake. But I'm trying to really understand what's happened to his music career, because he's gone to college.
Starting point is 00:19:05 He's a composer. But I think, I think, I think. His tumor has stopped him from composing? I think so. Wow. Yeah. I think he has, like, lost his way partially because of the headaches and partially because I don't know, but he... It's been slow growing.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Yeah. But then he also... This slow-growing tumor that is now going to kill him, except for an angel's kiss. But I also don't really get anyone's character because, like, how would you describe him? Is he a partier? Not really. He's nothing.
Starting point is 00:19:40 He's a hero. He's dying of a brain tumor. Yeah. That's the only thing we need to know about it. We can't know him. His most interesting character trait is not revealed until the last literal minutes of the movie. And but then...
Starting point is 00:19:51 Boy, would it have been great to start with, I guess, God's voice. Then we cut into, boop, boop. It's not looking good. Jim. Jim is his name? Is his name? Jim Bob. It's not looking good.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Bob, bye, bye. And he's like, well, at least I have the love of a good woman. Great. We're getting married. Great. Okay, Phoebe Cates is there. Now he's like, oh no, an angel is here? Okay,
Starting point is 00:20:10 now this is interesting. But the first time we meet him, yes, he's in the rain completely dry. I feel like they didn't really want to get him wet to do retakes, so they're like, he's, the umbrella got him. It's like he would be soaked. And we meet him, he's
Starting point is 00:20:26 like, funny guy. This is, and no offense, I love this actor. This is for me. I thought he was wonderful. This is Tad. Tad. Who? Tad! Tad from all my children. I grew up with Tad. I thought Tad was the coolest. I don't think Tad is a comedic actor. Yes, and Tad, I'm sorry, I don't know the actor's name, so I'm just going to keep calling.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Michael Knight. I don't care. Tad is his name now. You know, because I will say, and I alluded to it, but the movie shares so much in common with Splash that it is shocking. Truly shocking. But, Spallel. Splash has Tom Hanks. Yes. The absolute charm of Tom Hanks is going to get you pretty far. And Ted is, doesn't have that charm, possibly because the brain tumor is pushing, pushing against the part of the brain that gives you charm. But I'm not rooting for him, mostly, mostly because he's fucking over my girl, Phoebe Kates.
Starting point is 00:21:33 That's a thing. He seems to want to hang out. He wants to hang out more with the party ninjas. He's really set up to fail. And I was so ready for the scene between the angel and Phoebe Kates. I was like, I need this scene. I need this reconciliation. I need this healing for all of us.
Starting point is 00:21:53 And we never got it. And it was so hard. Can I also ask the question about Splash? And I forget, Madison in Splash, that's Daryl Hannah's character. She does talk a little bit, right? Yes, right? And has a name. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Yeah. As a name and talks. Two things that are denied. It's a rom-com without one person who speaks. And it's like, they can't have chemistry. They can't have chemistry if all she, if her only choice is to be like, to just be constantly leaning in to give a death smoochie.
Starting point is 00:22:31 That's the shirt, death smoochie. Time for you to die. But I think that they try to get Tad to be interesting. because when you first see him, he's like doing that baseball play-by-play. But that's like, it's too long and it's not funny. And it's not funny for multiple reasons. But I would say one of them is, what are we, like, what are we trying to get from that? Like, I don't even get that he's carefree.
Starting point is 00:22:56 It's so hard because he's set up. Like that moment, we think it's Phoebe Cates' movie, but like when she comes out to get him, I know we're supposed to think this guy is hot and charming, but for me, I'm like, get inside. Go in. It's a fucking engagement party. Yeah, what are you doing? Get inside.
Starting point is 00:23:17 It's suggesting that he has cold feet, and I don't know why or if he does. He's harmoniquing. Here comes the bride into a funeral march. He's pouting. Yes. He's pouting for reasons that are never explained. I feel like the movie,
Starting point is 00:23:36 wants us to think they shouldn't be together. Him and Phoebe Cates, he doesn't want to be married to her. He's just waiting for his angel. I think that's why he's equivocating or something. But it doesn't make sense because I'm immediately on her side. And I'm like, this fucking piece of shit sucks. I think, I think, I'm serious. Fuck this guy.
Starting point is 00:23:53 I felt the same way. I felt the same way. Fuck this guy. I hope the devil comes and marries Phoebe Cates. I can't believe, by the way. I'm going to blame this on Phoebe Cates, but I really think that role was written. She's a model. She's supposed to be super close to her dad.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Well, she models in the ethereal campaign. No, I think her dad was like, you are my perfect model. Come here, smoochie, smoochie. Don't do that to me again. I don't like that. Don't do that. I don't like that. Because I could be clearly the dad is.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Smoochie, smoochie, smoochie. The dad is. Let's all hope all of us tonight later are like, how about a little smoochie, smoochie, smoochie. I feel like the dad wants her to be a model. and the reason why the whole company is going down the drain is because they react so negatively to her face. The company's going under because of her face. But I know all of this, but I think, I know all of this.
Starting point is 00:24:47 I know all of this. I know all of this. I understand that. I'm an expert on this movie. This I know. But I think, again, that's what the movie is showing us. And I think that's probably how it was written. I think she was also probably written to be a little frumpy.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Like the red dress, I think, was supposed to look ill-fitting and unfitting. flattering on her. Especially later she's in like, she appears to be wearing men's briefs over pants at one point. But unfortunately, like she just always looks beautiful. And even when she's called to just like be shrill and reacting and screaming, because she's Phoebe Cates,
Starting point is 00:25:25 we're always on her side, charmed by her. She's the most charismatic performer in the movie, full stop. You can't take your eyes off of her. She's hilarious. And she does an incredible job with what she has. I mean, she also says the line that it's something like my dad's acting like he's in a real poo-poo mood.
Starting point is 00:25:49 And I, after she did it, I really thought to myself, okay, June, if you saw that in a script, like, how do you, how would you approach it? Like, what, you have to say it. It's in there, you have to say it. Like, you have to find your way into that. Aaron Shorkin wrote it. You can't change it. You can't change a goddamn thing. You have to say it.
Starting point is 00:26:06 And I was like, I don't think I can. I don't think I'm good enough to do that. So she is truly one of the best we have. I will say this. It's one of the best we have. No, of course, our love for Phoebe Kates is well documented in this podcast. But I do want to point out one thing about her. That when she gets kicked in the heiney, her response is, where's my gun?
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah. Like her immediate response is. Now I'm going to shoot you. I'll show you. I'll show you. Where's my rifle? Yeah. She has a shotgun. She says, where's my rifle? I'm going to kill you for kicking me in the high. That was after kick one. Not even kick two. She's ready to kill this man. She is, by the way, I wish she had.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I did too. I was like, let's go. She had killed Tad and then she and the angel fell in love. That's a movie I'm going to think about in the heart. hotel later. But can we talk about I think the most
Starting point is 00:27:15 charismatic the most charismatic trio are the party ninjas. The party ninjas Holy shit. I love the party ninjas because they are not cool.
Starting point is 00:27:27 They seemingly aren't that fun and they're real dumb. And like the Bachelor party seems to have been for four people. Yeah. And there might have been women there because when they come in, they're like, let's see this woman.
Starting point is 00:27:41 It's like... No, I think that's the... They had like a 16mm porno called the Tender Bartender. Are you being serious? I'm so sorry, Paul. Did you not see that the Tender Bartender was featured prominently? I was too busy looking at the...
Starting point is 00:27:56 Or maybe it was the blow-up doll. I was looking at the pin the tail on the donkey. And I was like, that was part of the Bachelor Party? That's the worst. The first bachelor party in history. But also... And they all left him. I know this is like neither here nor there,
Starting point is 00:28:13 but in terms of like the cadence of wedding events, it was too early for a bachelor party. Like we're just doing the engagement party. We've just announced this. It also, oh, I see. It's not the night. I agree with you because I, the minute they were saying, oh, it's your bachelor party,
Starting point is 00:28:28 I was like, oh, is the wedding in the next few days? Yes. Is this imminent? Are we, is the clock? ticking now, is this movie going to end at a wedding? By the way, it should have. Wouldn't that have been much better? Nope, in the forest. Nope. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Baby dears. Get me more baby deers. In a clubhouse we have no reference for. Perhaps no movie in our entire history have I thought every step of the way I understood where this movie was headed. And you were wrong. You said ass wrong.
Starting point is 00:28:59 The party ninjas get, I'm going to say, 40 legitimate news outlets. To show up to some place called the press club where they live in the suburbs so that they can debut an angel from heaven. But meanwhile, meanwhile, the party ninjas seem to run a theater where they could have simply held the... They do? Well, they're in that.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Oh. They are... You mean the place where that's located? Yeah, that's the press club. No, no, no. Guys, their home, I think. is the party ninjas live above like a theater set shop. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:42 So they don't run that theater. That's just where they're locked is. You mean George and Rex and the other guy? Are just hanging out above a... None of it makes sense. By the way, this is a small issue that I have with the party ninjas. Our main guy, our bachelor, Tad, when he wakes up drunk with the inflatable girl,
Starting point is 00:30:03 his tie is just slightly a... his tie never came off for the bachelor party nor did it get very askew it was sort of like the first move that you make if you get in the car like uh it just stayed in like it was still very high up on the neck he looked unpartied oh he was fine he looked totally fine except for the brain tumor
Starting point is 00:30:26 yes except for the gigantic brain tumor then splash we hear a splash water pours the to the apartment. I'm no, listen, I'm no scientist, but when we go back out to that pool and see the water displacement
Starting point is 00:30:46 from her 120-pound body, not even. Not barely. With the wings. The wings. The wings weigh a lot. But she has lifted out, like I want to say four feet of water.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Oh, yeah. It's six inches of water in the house. Okay, I thought about it for so long because I'm like, well, you are falling from heaven. So that's a that's a certain amount of force that's coming down. Did her wings break? Like, I'm assuming she was flying and she may have hit
Starting point is 00:31:17 like a power line. Like, so I don't think that she fell from that high. Hold on a second. Whoa. Hold on. Oh, whoa. Hold on. There seems to be who has the answer. Somebody here will know. Sir, what's your, what's your, what's your name? Paul, be careful of the man and a putter in a bra shirt. I knew
Starting point is 00:31:34 he was safe because he was in a Really be careful. All right, why is her wing broken? Because she hit the satellite. Oh, she hit the satellite. Somehow, I missed that. I missed that, too. Somehow we all missed that, but all of you watched it?
Starting point is 00:31:50 Keith, tell me what happened. So she's sent on her merry way by God, and she's headed towards Earth, and then all of a sudden a satellite comes out of nowhere. Do we see this? Yes. Oh, and then... When? It's a P-O-V.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Okay, we have a lot of... A POV shot from the satellites or hurts? She was like wearing a GoPro. That's the footage we saw. Wow. How did I miss this? God, we all missed it. You know what? Sometimes I don't pay attention during the time.
Starting point is 00:32:17 This movie sounds a lot better from Keith's point of view. Okay. So she broke her. So this is kind of a commentary on Star Wars, not the movie, but the arms race, satellites in the sky. You know, it's very prescient. Reagan-era Star Wars. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Yes. So that's how she breaks her wing. She falls. All right, so the satellite is higher than... If you don't mind me, just backing up for one second to the party. When Tad is pouting out in the rain, Phoebe, and he is embarrassing, because these are not young people. They should have been. This movie would have been better if they were all in high school or something like that, if they were young.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Sure. You know what I mean? But they are old, old enough to know better. And he's pouting in the back. She comes out there and she goes, you know they all hate you. you. Yeah. You know, everyone in our families
Starting point is 00:33:11 hate you. And then he goes... And I do too. I'm with everyone else. I also hate you, Dad. But it's such lazy writing, too, because the way they make Phoebe Kate's unlikable, he's like, I know.
Starting point is 00:33:27 No more fun. Like she's always saying, no more fun. And that's like a weird thing. And the party ninjas are actively trying to sabotage her in a way that's like, you know, I think, like, toxic beyond. George is a true
Starting point is 00:33:43 psychopath. Yeah. When they came out with that net, I was... What? The party ninjas are the government in E.T. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Absolutely. They are, like, animal control trying to capture this But first of all, they're trying to market the angel to this guy. I don't know who the fuck this guy is. They're trying to sell the angel. The angel is yet not a commodity. It's like me trying to sell ET a year before ET comes out.
Starting point is 00:34:19 I'm like, it's a little guy, big eyes, phone home. I'd be like, what? What are you talking about? Like, you can't pre-sell like merch. Like, we got the bumper thing. We got the shirts. It's like, for what? For what?
Starting point is 00:34:33 Oh, no. And they don't even have hurt. yet because their big thing is like we got to get her in a net and then we'll lure her away with French fries. We got a French fries. I was like, these fucking maniacs need to be put down. But what I do like... FeebK should be shooting these guys with a gun. But what I do like about them is that they do provide a dress code for the press conference. You guys can dress casual. To the press? You tell the press how to show up? Like, never is it like, yes, we'll be covering the event. What's the dress code?
Starting point is 00:35:06 Oh, okay, casual. Okay, got it. All right, got it. Can you imagine? Hey, we're doing a formal press conference. Ted does camera. You got to wear a tux. Oh, not again.
Starting point is 00:35:14 You know. Can you imagine a world in which you have a for real angel. Now, you also have a catastrophic brain tumor, so who knows? But you have a for real angel. You go into a church with an angel, and the priest is like, go tell it to the Baptists. the church would be so excited to have an angel, they would be like,
Starting point is 00:35:41 we fucking did it! Holy shit, it's real! They would be so excited. She's up there doing angel shit. And he's like, I don't want to look at it. Get out of here. Well, that's the thing with this movie. Interestingly, there was the, in, on a newspaper headline,
Starting point is 00:35:58 it said that priest from that church was moved to a different parish. Well, he only moved to a different parish to get better, weed. Yeah. And you noticed when he was around, Rex was like, I don't want to hang out with him. Him smoking weed. Too far? Minneapolis. What? Minneapolis. Very religious
Starting point is 00:36:19 town. Oh, no, don't say that. That was the thing that was so interesting. It's like, whenever there is a choice to make, you don't need to make it weird or like, that's a priest. He's holding confession. Let's give him a joint. Wait, why? Why are we over? complicating it because we are dealing in a world of such crazy fantastical nature. And I'm all for it. Like, yes, she's an angel. But no one questions it. It's like, she's an angel. Got it.
Starting point is 00:36:47 No one's like, check her wings. No one has a question. No, she's not. She's just a cuck. Nope. Okay, yeah, she's an angel. She's an angel. Everyone bought it. It's real. It's like, it's like everybody in this movie has been waiting for this. And it's just like happens to be today. But it's not, it isn't really a surprise. Or it's like there's other angels. It's a world in which there's lots of angels, and we just got one here. I mean, that's not the case, but everybody does feel very okay with it. I will say, I thought she handled some of her comedic beats quite well.
Starting point is 00:37:16 The French fry sequence, I laughed out, you know. Was she upset that the hamburger was made of meat? Gotta be. But how would she even know? Or that it was a deeply out-of-season, unriped tomato slice on it. The tomato slice was like mostly yellow in the middle, and I was like, mostly yellow in the middle. and I was like, this is a scathing indictment of Wendy. Scaving.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I also don't think it was a square burger, was it? No. No, was it? Not a square burger. So please know that Paul and I, someone, his mom had bought us a, like, private sushi chef for our first year anniversary. And this woman. Paul's head is going to pop right off. This woman arrives at our apartment many years ago.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And she's not Japanese. I love sushi. So I got you a private sushi chef at your house. Longster is short. It's a little uncomfortable to have this person in our home. And Paul and I are like doing small talk with her. Can I also say the most uncomfortable thing about it and not to be offensive in any way? It was just a white woman.
Starting point is 00:38:29 And there was something about it that just felt like, huh. It's just very, very strange. just like, what are we all doing here? I like sushi. I've gone to, I go to a lot of different restaurants. I can remember twice when it was white people. When it once was in my house.
Starting point is 00:38:46 And the other time was in Hawaii. And that man was surrounded by Asian people who made fun of him for being white. It made me feel better. Yes. So there were so many things happening and we had to do about four
Starting point is 00:39:01 hours with her. And But during this time... Susce is a notoriously quick meal. This wasn't. This wasn't. Because she's in her home, we didn't... It was also... We had a tiny apartment.
Starting point is 00:39:15 There was nowhere for us to go and not be with her. So we're watching her... Wash her knives. We're watching... And we're also helping her. We're doing her dishes. Like, it was very strange experience.
Starting point is 00:39:27 We didn't barely have a kitchen. We had like a small counter space. Yes. So the whole interaction was so terrible. But just to go back to tomatoes for a second, this is where I really started to get worried. Because she said to us, you know what I'm about to say. She said, we're talking about food. And I said, so if you spend any time in Japan, just trying to get to what her experience with sushi is.
Starting point is 00:39:50 And she said, yeah, I did. She did. And then she said, but I, what I really love is every day go to Subway. And I get a Subway sandwich. and the tomatoes, the way they slice them so thin. And I'm thinking to myself, the Subway tomatoes are,
Starting point is 00:40:11 they're like the tomatoes in this movie. They are... They're not real tomatoes. And they literally don't have a taste. But now, guys wanted to let you know, Subway has stepped up their game. Oh, God. You can't be preparing sushi for people in their home.
Starting point is 00:40:26 They're slicing their own meat now. And... Patrick Mahomes told me The Slices-O-Meeves. Him and Steph Curry sign off on it. Wait a minute. This feels like promotion. You can't be in that situation
Starting point is 00:40:40 and then just waxing Ripsotic about the subway tomato. She also gave us a tip for eating sushi the right way, which was wrong. She's like, and again. Between the two halves of a six-inch sub-roll. She's like, you gotta put it in the roll.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I don't know if that was wrong. A little oil. It was wrong. A mayo. All right. You want this sushi Mike's weight? Put some balsamic on this ahi. What?
Starting point is 00:41:20 I was at a restaurant the other day. I was at a restaurant in Maine the other day. And I said, I'll get the grilled salmon. The waitress said, you like salmon? It's like, poh, what? I was like, wait,
Starting point is 00:41:39 it sounds like you don't like this. She was like, I hate salmon. I was like, please, tell me how you really feel. And I'm saying this all, but all of it had like the heaviest Boston-y, Massachusetts East, so she was like,
Starting point is 00:41:53 oh my God, you like salmon? Oh, I think salmon is disgusting. I was like, oh, what are you? talking about? And I was like, yeah, I'm going to get it anyway. I got it. It was delicious. And she came by and she was like, what did you think of that?
Starting point is 00:42:10 Salmon. And I was like, yeah, I thought it was absolutely delicious. She was like, ugh. She was like, the owner said he wants me to get a picture with you. He knows who you are. I have no idea who you are. I love her. And I was like, let's do this.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I love this woman. I was like, I'm home. Last night I did take a compliment for John Cryer. Someone came up to me and said, I just want to say, big time adolescence meant a lot to me. And I was like, uh-huh. And I never heard, I didn't know what that is. I didn't know what it was either.
Starting point is 00:42:58 And I quickly Googled it. It's a machine gun Kelly Pete Davidson movie that came out two years ago. And he said, I watched it all the time when I was in high school. and I'm like, you look like you're in high school now. This movie came out two years ago. You can't rapsoically about this, whatever. I said, this episode has the most usage of rhapsodic in podcast history.
Starting point is 00:43:22 And I said, I said, oh, thank you so much. Thank you so much. You didn't correct him. I love that. Had a great time making it. Machine Gun Kelly, a weird guy, but we had fun. Holy shit. I'll never correct anyone.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Even the guy who once said I was Robin Williams. At airport security, TSA, going through LAX. He's like, I know you. And I was like, oh, hey. And he's like, I know who you are, a funny guy. And I was like, oh, thanks so much. And he was like, Robin Williams. And then I laughed.
Starting point is 00:44:04 And I was like, all right. He goes, very funny guy. And then I was like, oh, he's not joking. He's like, I'm not going to blow up your spot, Robin Williams. and Robin Williams had been dead for some time. Holy shit. You should have, as you were walking away, been like, hey, bro, Google me.
Starting point is 00:44:29 And then leaned in for a smoochie. I was the angel coming back for him. I saw the ghost of Robin Williams today. Oh, my God. Holy shit. My favorite moment in this movie was Tad, who lives in the town, he lives there,
Starting point is 00:44:47 drives to the gas station and goes, where's the press club? You live here, man. You would have the equal amount of knowledge of the town. Also, forgive me, but what's a press club? It seems to be a place where press conferences happen? In a small town? In a tiny town? Is there use for that?
Starting point is 00:45:09 Is that a real thing? Am I just being a fool? I don't know. It didn't even look like a high school auditorium stage. When Phoebe Cates and her father are having a screaming match and her only option is to put herself into the closet, I was like, yes, this is the movie. This is the movie I want to watch.
Starting point is 00:45:30 When she comes out with a hanger, like, I'm going to fuck my dad up with this hanger. I'm like, yes, the dad and the priest are creeps. Get them both out of here. Let Phoebe be Phoebe. Bring in Fred. Fred fucked the agent. Angel. Oh, my God. I was trying to understand, like, what the difference between the angel gaze was and just, like, her falling in love with Tad.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Because it's, like, well, everybody's under her spell at points. But they're not getting the kiss of death. They're not going to be transported into another dimension. Right. She's to catch everybody. She hypnotizes. They seem affected by her, but I don't know that they, she is. as into them. I see.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Half her powers. I think a part of what's happening is just like they're falling in love with women who don't speak. And there's this sort of like transfiction. She's like a villa. She's like a villa in the Harry Potter story. Like she is like a beauty that people can't help but be like, you know, the dad is like the best example.
Starting point is 00:46:42 He's like, absolutely not you. Oh. Yeah. Like absolutely undone. I believe that angels have this like the way Crocodile Dundee could hypnotize animals with the two fingers, you know? You could do that.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I feel like the angel. You're doing a lot of finger work this tour. I did. The other night it was this. This and this. Which none of us liked. None of us liked it. Tonight it's this.
Starting point is 00:47:12 But I remember like Crocodile Dundee. Do you remember in the, so I'm so In the movie, when he wakes up after the Bachelor party and he's got the blow-up doll, he puts it aside, he does this. He does? He sniffs. I didn't see that. Sniffs his fingers.
Starting point is 00:47:27 His own fingers as if to say, oh no, did I do something stupid? No, I'm okay. What? Whoa, whoa, whoa, there's a dead angel in the pool. Oh, no, we partied too hard. The stripper's dead in the pool, man. But that's, wow. He sniffs his fingers.
Starting point is 00:47:49 I did not. I did not see that or I blocked it out. It's got to be an improvised moment because all I think a lot, I think a lot of like funny business stayed in this movie. But to your point, June, I do think that, yes, the angel has powers, but she's not at full power until her wing is fixed. But I will say this. You say she doesn't talk.
Starting point is 00:48:14 I think she is talking. And as a matter of fact, we have supplemental clip four. I'd like to show you how her voice came to be. The kind of work that I've done in film in voiceovers. The first one I was invited to do was a film called Date with an Angel, in which Emmanuel Bayard played an angel who had fallen to Earth. And the filmmakers wanted her to make otherworldly sound. and evidently all she could think of to do was squeak.
Starting point is 00:48:50 And so when they test marketed the film and this beautiful woman opens her mouth, a squeak comes out and the audience fell on the floor laughing. Well, that wasn't necessarily what they wanted. And so the sound designer contacted me and said, you know, can you help us? So they flew me out to Los Angeles and we worked on a sound stage.
Starting point is 00:49:14 and I basically replaced her voice for about 90% of the film. We did three complete separate tracks. One was a more musical track. One was sort of strange sounds, otherworldly sounds. And one was speech-like but not too speech-like. And then, so they used that. The sound designer mixed my sounds with, other sounds that he had
Starting point is 00:49:46 and came up with his composite voice for her. And so she created as something called... I'm obsessed with that woman. I'm absolutely... Her first job. Yes, and she created something called otherworldly speech. So supplemental
Starting point is 00:50:01 clip 5, we'd like to play some otherworldly speech. Because she does perform otherworldly speech. Okay, so this is solitary journeys of the mind. on your head on a
Starting point is 00:50:33 angel on a date with an angel on a date with an angel press club all right we can kill that that is holy shit that is a
Starting point is 00:51:07 That is a five and a half minute, a five and a half minute improvisational musical piece. Five and a half. Put a beat to it. Like this could be Enya. I could believe this could be Enya. This could be, this is better than the whole movie. Wow. So it's so interesting that she said they took those sounds and smashed them together because all I heard were squeaks.
Starting point is 00:51:40 I mean, all I heard was whale noise. It felt like. So much so that at the end of the movie, when she says she's been sent back here by God to heal him and also make music with him, I was like, with that voice. Yeah. No, it was, and it's especially clear, there are moments where, and I wonder if in the script they wrote lines for the angel, because there are scenes in which she is trying to have, she's trying to communicate. with Ted. There are scenes that appear as though they are having a conversation, but
Starting point is 00:52:18 she's doing dolphin sounds. And he is kind of like, okay, boob, boob, boob. I mean, most of the movie, too, he's just talking at her and kind of filling in what she might be saying. And we're supposed to believe that for them, this is what it is, to fall in love.
Starting point is 00:52:37 To have a foundational inability to communicate using language. But it would make I think that the fact that Tad is so earnest makes it less fun. Because if he was like a little,
Starting point is 00:52:54 like he's so earnest and she's so earnest, I'm just like watching two people just be very earnest with each other and it's bumming me out. Like it's like, I'm like, oh, we're it's slow. And they originally wanted Jim Carrey for this. And they said,
Starting point is 00:53:10 For the angel? No, no. They wanted Jim Carrey as the lead, and they said, no, he's too funny. We don't want funny. We want leading man. It's interesting because I wonder if Jim Carrey, Jim Carrey in, like, taken down a notch, Jim Carrey would have been incredible in an affable Tom Hanksie way. I just don't know if he would have been able to do that.
Starting point is 00:53:34 It's so hard, because, again, we're never going to be on Ted's side because he has a fiancé. Yes. Who has done nothing to deserve this. treatment. So it's... Yeah, he's always a villain. And again, this angel, an agent of God on high, is here
Starting point is 00:53:54 stealing someone else's man. And he's like, fuck her, let's go. Let's get out of here. She's kicking Phoebe Kate's ass in the woods. And then also, but also like, then the end of the movie is... Is that your guy? I'm going to fucking take your guy.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Don't worry about it. But the end of the movie is also this moment where God actually wants you to make music. Like, we got to make music together. That's a crazy end. But he's like, God is like, yeah, this guy's got the goods. That's what I actually couldn't understand. When you said the last two minutes explained everything, I was like, not for me. It didn't.
Starting point is 00:54:35 I mean, it gave you information that made a little sense of some of what was going on. Well, it makes sense of why he falls asleep in the middle of the movie. When, like, he's looking for her and they're at the press conference, he wakes up. I'm like, wait, so he was looking for her and he just fell asleep. Well, he does that a number of times. Okay. In the woods, too. In the woods, he's just kind of like, huh.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Right. I would say the brain tumor is played very low. Like, it's, yes, it's like, it's like background noise. If I really focus on it, I'm like, yeah, you've given. me clues, but it's not like shocking me because I'm watching a priest smoke a joint. I'm watching guns get fired. I'm watching a girl put underwear on. I'm watching a guy get bit on the ass by a dog. Is it a better movie? Is it a better movie? If she's not an angel, but to him, because of his tumor, he thinks she's an angel. Yes. And everybody else just is smitten with this beautiful woman,
Starting point is 00:55:34 but he thinks she's some sort of from another, you know, blah, blah, blah. And that that, because none of it adds up and they just keep throwing stuff at you to be like, oh, what if he's got a brain tumor? Or, dare I say it, and I know that we forbid it is it better as a
Starting point is 00:55:53 Jacob's Ladder scenario. Yes. For who? For him? For him? And it's like they've all been around his bed the entire time. He's imagined the entire thing. What if it's a Jacob's Ladder
Starting point is 00:56:07 scenario for the striped at the bachelor party who dies in the pool. Done. Who imagines whose dying dream is that she's an angel who is rescued from this wretched existence by this man and curries God's favor so that they can become musicians together. That's the movie. All right, let's see what the audience has to say here. Got a lot of people with questions.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Maybe there's a theologian in the house. I don't know. Maybe. there's an angel. What's your name and your question? My name is Sarah, and my question is, have you ever received a telegram as good as the ladybug?
Starting point is 00:56:54 Oh, thank you so much. This is something that I did want to talk about. The love bug. Love bug. A love bug is, I laughed a number of times in this movie. That was one of them. And I was like, this is the part I would get in this movie.
Starting point is 00:57:10 This or probably George. The love. Lovebug is a singing telegram who delivers the singing as they are leaving. Like, the singing was a side effect of the telegram.
Starting point is 00:57:23 The singing happens at the end, and then all of his exit is just maniacal laughter. And it's like, Hey, your boyfriend, better love this. And then later in the movie, he drives by in his love bug. When he's getting into his car,
Starting point is 00:57:42 he's like, that's my son! Give me a movie about the love bug! Hi, what's your name and what's your question? Hi, I'm Cassie. So in the massive exposition dump, we get in the last like 30 seconds and she can suddenly speak. Part of it, she explains that she has now been brought down to Earth
Starting point is 00:58:04 for her good behavior, which raised some implications that in addition to not having a name or a voice, angels perhaps don't even have. have free will. But also, are angels capable of bad, are angels on like a, like, are they being monitored? They're fucking angel. Shouldn't they be exemplified of good behavior?
Starting point is 00:58:26 Well, that was what, yes, if you are an angel, you've already done your good behavior. You know, that's the whole idea. Wait a second. So you think an angel is someone who has died and come to heaven. Satan was an angel. You're right. Satan was a fallen angel. Just so we make sure that that is clear. Someone just yelled, Satan was an angel.
Starting point is 00:58:54 I felt so unsafe when that happens. Just in case it wasn't picked up, it was said like this in a moment of chilling silence. As if the audience knew this person would need to say this, someone said Satan was an angel Diggasoo Duggy Zook a Zootchoo
Starting point is 00:59:15 Satan was an angel Thank you for quoting Metalocalypse lyrics at me I will say this though As soon as he said it The whole theater now smells of sulfur Yeah There's a fucking goat's head on stage
Starting point is 00:59:33 All right Your name and your question My name is Allison and my question is Hi! Hi! Hey guys! Do you think this movie is about capitalism? Explain. I like it. Tell me.
Starting point is 00:59:48 So the friends, when they meet the angel, their first response is to get money, monetize it. And also, Phoebe Kate's dad, his first response is to make her the model. Yeah, it's all about business. When she fails, he doesn't care about love. love, he wants to find another way to get money. Well, and he doesn't care about his
Starting point is 01:00:11 daughter at all. He just cares about getting the angel. So, Chad is a communist? I think so. I like it. I like this. I do believe this is a scathing indictment of 20th century capitalism. So far, this will be taking down Reganomics.
Starting point is 01:00:27 It's taking down Star Wars. This is in the greed is good Gordon Gecko era of American greed. Everybody just sees an angel and sees dollar signs. But the other thing is, and I keep on going back to this, they accepted her as an angel.
Starting point is 01:00:46 She does nothing angelic. She's got these wings. I mean, that's pretty angelic. But she does have wings and is an angel. But we haven't checked them out. No one goes, let me see. What do you want to do with them, Paul? Do you think there are angel wing authenticators?
Starting point is 01:01:04 What's this? What is this? I've seen that show with Rebecca Romaine. Antiques Road Show? They dress people up like Panthers and shit. You go to Heidi Clems Halloween party. You're going to see fucking Angel Wings. I watch Victoria's Secret shows. They got Angel Wings.
Starting point is 01:01:18 You do? Check it out. How often do you watch the Victoria's Secret Angel Wings? Study for this a lot. But I mean, but no one goes like, let me touch those shoulders. What do we got? You wanted them to sort of like. I don't like any of this, by the way.
Starting point is 01:01:37 I like when Paul says, let me touch those shoulders. You wanted to sort of like take a look under the wings to make sure they were really, like you wanted someone to tug on them. Oh, so Paul, they, Paul, you are positing that she is a scam artist. That she's not real. My first instinct would be check them wings. Yeah. Show me what's under the hood. Show me your wings.
Starting point is 01:01:59 I grew up in New York. I grew up in New York. You're going to tell me an angel. You got to prove it. Do some sort of magic and let me touch them wings. Wow. I agree. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I'm not just to take you at face value. I agree. I would be skeptical as well. I would be skeptical as well. I would want to see where those wings joined her back. First of all, she doesn't have to prove to either of you that she's an angel, okay? But the minute she makes dolphin sounds, I'd be like, oh, classic angel. When she was hypnotizing one of the party ninjas, I thought they were going to pull like a little switcheroo.
Starting point is 01:02:38 And he's like, behind this curtain, an amazing angel. and then you're like, oh, when he reveals it, it's going to be like the party ninjas at the pants down or something, and then the angel's going to be gone. But no, she's still tied up in a chair, and then you hear a reporter go, oh, that's not right. Yeah. Well, they've got her tied into a chair.
Starting point is 01:02:56 They've got a cloth over her mouth to stop her from doing hypnotic chirping. They take it off, then they put one around her eyes as well? Do they at one point, they thought, they have a press conference for a kidnapped woman. This is like, It really is. They bring out a woman tied to a
Starting point is 01:03:14 They bring out a hostage. They're like, we have a hostage. Yeah. And this is, like, we are from Abu Ghraib. We have this. Why cover up her wings then?
Starting point is 01:03:28 Like, that's actually when we need to see them. The choices that these men make... Thank you, June. Check them wings. Check them wings. I guess now I'm on your side. I will say, I think the T-shirt for this episode,
Starting point is 01:03:40 should be the t-shirt that they hold up when they're in the patent office or whatever. Holy shit. I like that. I wish the movie had now been about just party ninjas. Okay, your name, your question. Hi, I'm Megan. My question is what is the- Hi, Megan. Hi, Jason.
Starting point is 01:03:59 What is the angel manual that he's reading in the tree house where he's like, oh, according to the book, your powers are fully recovered or whatever? Wait a second. That book was in the treehouse. I thought he got that from the library. did. But it checks it out when the library brings it to the treehouse. Oh yeah, he's doing a lot of... The book in the treehouse had like
Starting point is 01:04:16 a colorful cover and the book in the library had like a leather bound like old book looking. The library in this town has access to books from the 13th century. That's a no way. The library in this town has books that only Giles from
Starting point is 01:04:34 Buffy has access to. Okay? That's what we're talking about here. This is not real books. And Tad is up here reading about angels like he's cracking the code. He's too dumb. He's way too dumb. Here's a book that no one cracks. The Bible. Yes. No one's looking at the Bible, a book that might have some information. This is like the mystical surprise. So that's why this episode
Starting point is 01:05:01 we're giving away a Bible to everybody. Look under your seats. Under your seat, you will find a Bible. How did this get preyed? Black it out. That's the end of the show. Good night. I was reading the book of Job, but can you believe this passage? All right, it says right here, he who walks.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Now, get this, he who walks through a valley? Now, where are these valleys? That would be our whole show. Your name of your question. I'm best, and I just wanted to address the physical comedy. Oh, we're talking to ecclesiasties. This is crazy. Sorry, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Please go ahead. Well, I mean, like, the dog. The dog attack. Like, everything was just so over the top. The dog attack was from the POV of the dog, right? Going into the man's ass. And yet I forgot about that. I mean, it's not going into the man's ass.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Seems like he went pretty deep into it. I feel like he got side cheek and back cheek. Yeah, no. I loved the dad, after he's been bit on the butt, which is like midway through the movie on the honey. Hiney. Thank you. On the hiny.
Starting point is 01:06:22 After he's bit on the hini, for the rest of the movie, he does a lot of sitting down and then jumping up and me like, ooh, oh, oh, my hini. You know that I was attacked. I really laughed when the dad is in the boardroom and he's trying to describe who the new face of the ethereal beauty line is. The hardest laugh in the movie. I genuinely laugh so hard.
Starting point is 01:06:44 He goes, I got it. It's my daughter's fiance's girlfriend. Mistress. Mistress. It's even better. And everybody's like, uh-huh. And it's like the casting notice for everybody in there is weasels. It's a boardroom full of weasels who are like,
Starting point is 01:07:05 also they were alluding to something going horribly wrong in that makeup company. Again, I think it was Phoebe's face. The guy comes to. their house in the middle of the night with the marketing research reports, not sales, like we just did the testing. It's bad. And gleefully, gleefully tells him it's bad. I had to come over and tell you, it's bad. Your instincts are shit. Your daughter's the worst. I wrote down the press is witnessing an abduction. Go ahead. Your name, your question. Hi, I am Dina. Hi, Dina.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Hi. Has anyone figured out what the date was? What date? What do you mean? Oh, oh, I see. The titular date. Yeah, there doesn't appear to be a date. I think it's like a date, like his date with destiny.
Starting point is 01:08:06 That's not like a, we go to Benegans. It's like, it's just a general. I mean, they go to Wendy's. It's interesting, though. By the way, what an indictment on Wendy's. I know. I didn't even think about that. It is interesting, though, because I do have a vague memory of the dad and the engagement party scene talking to Tad's mom, who we haven't even touched on her.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Holy. We haven't even said a word about her yet. We need to spend roughly the next two hours talking about her, Tad's dad. And also, where's Phoebe's mom? Unclair. Unknown. But I do remember a reference to. Tad working for her dad, and that being the path and that,
Starting point is 01:08:51 it seemed like that's where we're going, but I don't know, because once Phoebe's on screen, she doesn't seem to care about... It was confusing to me that when he shows up at her house, she throws stuff out the window. They weren't living together, so she's just throwing her own shit out the window. Well, some of it is like cards and stuff that he's probably given her or whatever, but like, yeah, I agree. It doesn't seem like that's a family that allows her boyfriend to sleep over.
Starting point is 01:09:20 But then again, I agree, but that suggests that she lives with her parents, ergo is young. And so then I'm like, how old are these characters supposed to be? Now hours away from the movie, it's kind of starting to make a bit more sense. I think we're supposed to believe that Tad's from the wrong side of the tracks and that this marriage is going to be meaningful to his family and to his mom because they are going to profit off of it. Correct.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Yes. Okay. Because he drives like a piece of shit car. And she drives a corvette. She drives a corvette, lives in a mansion, and her dad is like business, business, capitalism. Capitalism. Keeping up with the Jones is, okay, your name, your question.
Starting point is 01:10:06 You have a screen grab. Yeah. I'm Will. Less of a question. More of a reading of. Roger Ebert's review of this movie. Okay, this is great. I actually, well,
Starting point is 01:10:20 can you play, we never have done this before. I was going to save this to the end, but I think it's worthy of it now. Can you play a review? The most impressive thing about this whole movie is the way that Emmanuel Bayard is actually able to play a convincing angel. At least I was convinced,
Starting point is 01:10:34 and if it's not an angel, then at least it's certainly a beautiful blonde with wings. On some kind of a basic level, I like their performance. In fact, I think you can even guess what that basic level probably was. sexual and I liked a lot of the details of her relationship with Michael E. Knight You're being so kind. I think this movie is garbage. I did not think she was convincing. I didn't think it was magical. I didn't think the character's surrounding her were interesting. All she does is chirp. She is a beautiful woman, Jean. Now, come on.
Starting point is 01:10:58 So what? There are a lot of beautiful women in the world. There are not that many. Yeah. There are not that many. There are not, there are few movies that are as bad as this one. Isn't there some kind of a basic human level upon which you can respond to beauty of this nature? Yes. Without having to just always be a critical. all the time and see how dumb the movie is. Isn't there something pretty to look at there? Yes, and then the movie starts rolling. Take a still picture of her. Don't look at the film.
Starting point is 01:11:24 I love nothing. I grew up every week watching at the movies. On PBS, every... Nothing is better than the animosity that Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert have for each other. It is so powerful how much they dislike each other and how much they are just constantly going after each other. I mean, and that is brilliant.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Like, he's like, you know why I like her. Sexual. Sexual. So upsetting. Can we bring you on our second opinion people right now? Here's the thing, while you guys are lining up, if I'm tad, have some fucking balls and go and have a conversation with Phoebe Cates and be like, it's over.
Starting point is 01:12:06 They cut all of that stuff out because the morning after the bachelor party, he goes, like, I know you called after you woke up and tried to explain the situation. Why didn't we get to see that scene? He says, I'll be there in a half an hour. Doesn't do that. Clearly doesn't even have any attention. This guy is a fucking piece of shit, and I hate him for what he did to our girl. Yeah, Ted might be a piece of ship, but you know what?
Starting point is 01:12:32 There are people out there that think a little bit differently, because now it is time for second opinions. What's with this angel in my pool? Where did she come from? What will my fiance think when she sees her in my bed? And going to Amazon, who, who, too, you look just like an angel. Oh, oh, and I'm recently engaged. I don't know what this movie's about anyway. I don't care about that.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Amazing job. Great job. Every single one of the 32 people who sang songs tonight were perfect. Thank you so much. Those are amazing songs. And now we're going to read some amazing reviews. On Amazon, there are 1,403 reviews of date
Starting point is 01:13:52 with an angel. Average rating 4.7 out of five stars. 4.7 out of five stars. 82% are five star reviews. Only 2% are one-star reviews. Mel Leonard writes, this is in 2018, title, a movie that has remained as one of my favorites for decades. When I was a movie theater manager back in the 80s,
Starting point is 01:14:24 I had the pleasure of screening this movie, and I thought it was wonderful. Girls came out of the theater crying on their boyfriend's shoulders and everyone had smiles on their faces. However, the critics panned it terribly and not many came to see this great show,
Starting point is 01:14:42 which I thought was a real crime. Because of these charlatan judges, this movie failed at the box office. I have never forgiven those who were responsible for this. I just want to say, I still think this is a great movie and I highly recommend it to anyone.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Dated, pardon the pun, though it may be. It is both funny, heartwarming, and sometimes sad. But, with the proverbial happy ending, you will do yourself a favor if you take
Starting point is 01:15:19 the time to watch it. Five stars. Thank you, Mel Leonard. Now, Mel has a little bit of an edge, and so does share, not share with a C, but share with an S. And Share with an S wrote this in 2011, and the title is DVD Date with an Angel. This DVD was difficult to locate, and the cost in Canada was double from Amazon. I got my DVD, and I enjoyed it very much, and I was delighted to add it to my
Starting point is 01:15:57 collection. I wish Amazon would arrange to deliver to Canada as having to drive to the U.S. to pick up a parcel at a designated place is a bit much. Thank you again, Amazon, and I hope you will consider finding the same products in Canada or the U.S. or rather than selling it or going overseas. Keep it at home, keep it Americans, and keep Canadians working. Five stars. What the fuck is that review about? This person is pissed off. It starts about this movie and ends with Keep Canadians working?
Starting point is 01:16:43 Capitalism. Wow. Yeah, capitalism indeed. And that was, that review was written by Justin Trudeau? And you know what? A lot of his legislation gets first started at the review level and then it moves up.
Starting point is 01:16:58 That's the way you have to do it in Canada, apparently. We've got some great reviews on Amazon. That's how a bill becomes a law there. We're having fun. Our Koss writes this, the title Great Movie, my wife and I love this movie. We feel that the FX for the Wings were done extremely well, much better and more realistic than what I think could be done with CG.
Starting point is 01:17:33 We just love the detail put into this movie, and we're happy to add it to our day. DVD collection. Five stars, great movie. Can I say one thing about that? I agree, I think, because the wings were not too white. I guess they just
Starting point is 01:17:50 seemed like they had been I don't know, used for some time. Wow. That's why she's behaving badly. She's behaving badly. Now she's behaving better. You felt like those were used wings. Yeah, in a good way. In a good way.
Starting point is 01:18:06 I agree, and I actually thought they looked good as well. And I thought they did a good job of not giving us too much access to them. So as to let them be, let them look bad or see. I did take issue with the scene where he was trying to disguise her. I can understand putting a coat on the wings, but why does she need to be in a hat and sunglasses? I'm so sorry. Also, why does she need high heels? Get this angel sneakers. Please get her flags. Get this angel sneakers. Or flip-flops. Give her anything. There's a decidedly angry attitude to a lot of these...
Starting point is 01:18:41 You want to put an angel in flip-lops? Why, she doesn't belong in flip-flops, ma. You want to put an angel. She's an angel. That's my favorite John Prine song. Angel and flip-lops. Angel and flip-lops. Walking through my life.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Isn't that famous home? I don't know if you're with me tonight, Minneapolis. Oh, God. Come tomorrow night. We'll see what's up. In the toughest times, I was carrying you, but I tripped on my flip-flops. Flops, right? That's the footprints. Ed from Denver writes this.
Starting point is 01:19:16 The title is, what is there to say about a movie I ordered? Dot, dot, dot. What is there to say about a movie I ordered? Because I already knew about it before I ordered it. Five stars. I think he thought he needed to... Like, I think he's confused about what reviews are.
Starting point is 01:19:41 I will read one. You think he ordered it and then got the email and it was like leave a review here. He was just like, well, it hasn't arrived yet, but. I mean, I already ordered. Yeah, I ordered it. It came. I gave you a review of the ordering process. This is a review written by I am blessed.
Starting point is 01:20:10 The title is for angel lovers and others. To me, a collector of angel lore, Emmanuel Baird is the personification of angels. My guardian angel agrees. What? And I think you will agree. Five stars. That's chilling.
Starting point is 01:20:39 I just picture that person watching the movie and then looking at an empty chair and being like, I know. Me too. So those are some five-star reviews. We got a bunch there. a bunch of great ones. I guess the question is, would you recommend this movie? Yes!
Starting point is 01:21:01 Yes, forever and always, yes. If only to see what a piece of shit tad is for choosing this angel who is not going to be with him forever. She's just clearly glomming on to him for her music career. For him to pass up Phoebe Cates, again, this is a movie about Phoebe Cates. Again, this is a movie about Phoebe Cates, I won't hear anything else, and it's fantastic. Everybody should watch it.
Starting point is 01:21:29 Yeah, this is truly like, this was a find. This was a wonderful find, and I did genuinely enjoy it, I think. I think I really I don't know which end is up anymore. It is a roller case. I think I really enjoyed it. The fact that this movie was released in the theater and made, like, this is
Starting point is 01:21:46 a real movie. We're going to see it. Like, there were no questions asked. This feels to me like, whatever you want to Make it. And they're paying for music. The cars, Steve Winwood. There are needle drops of hit songs. Steve Winwood's, the finer things is in this song.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Don't worry. I had that tape, guys. Me too. At this point, I was 15 years old. I had this tape. I listened to this song and I was lonely. The movie bankrupted the studio that released it. They thought it was going to help reinvigorate it.
Starting point is 01:22:29 but this year was bad for them and it was a $8 million movie that made $2 million, but it was nominated for Best Fantasy Film at the 1988 Saturn Awards and lost to the Princess Bride. This is a, I feel like now this movie would be a faith-based movie. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. It would skew in that direction and would be a, appropriately not as sexual, not as... Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Here's what I would say. This is Blind Date, the Bruce Willis movie. I think you put Bruce Willis in this movie. I think you put Kim Basinger in this movie. It's a big hit. Great. Big hit. It's big.
Starting point is 01:23:12 We're talking about Splash. I think Splash is so much, so similar, but Tom Hanks, Darrell Hannah, it is electric. You know? There you go. It is not an electric connection between any of the people here. And Phoebe Kates is pouring incredible work into like a bottomless. pit of nonsense. I will say this. I think we figured out our shirt,
Starting point is 01:23:33 which is the shirt they made in the actual movie. I think that's the one. It's pretty, I don't quite remember, but I think that's pretty good. I think we can just cheat it. I remember feeling like when I saw it, there was like angel wings on the back. Can we do that, Paul, please? Paul, can we please have
Starting point is 01:23:49 two sides? Please, Paul. We are going to do two sides. Every now and then, I like to keep the cost down, but you know what? You guys need a two-sided shirt. Minneapolis. Thank you everybody for coming out here tonight. Now Billy Joel.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Good night, everybody. Eat shit, Minneapolis. That is a wrap on date with an angel. Thanks again to the entire staff at the Pantages Theater and our fantastic Minneapolis audience. We love you, Minnie. Our t-shirt design for this episode says, Angel, just in quotes on the front with an image of huge angel wings on the back to get this shirt and more. just click on the merch link at hdtgm.com. As always, if you have a correction or a mission from this episode,
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