How Did This Get Made? - Deadfall LIVE! w/ Chelsea Peretti (HDTGM Matinee)

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

HDTGM all-star Chelsea Peretti (Brooklyn Nine-Nine) joins Paul, June, and Jason to discuss the 1993 Nicolas Cage crime drama Deadfall. LIVE in front of an unhinged audience at The Wiltern in Los Angeles, they talk about the other Deadfall film, deadfall definitions, Cage’s Tony Clifton inspired performance, cake, and so much more. Plus, they touch upon the sequel Arsenal, in which Nic Cage reprises his role as Eddie King. (Ep. #218 Originally Released 07/18/2019) • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

It's like an executive at Lifetime decided, hey, we should make a Quentin Tarantino movie. We saw a deadfall, so you know what that means. Hey, everybody. Now it's time for Power to Chicken, man. What up, Gerger, H, D, TGM, Routa, B, Scare,

and Lime. Hey, everybody, everybody. A G-G-E-T-G-M-R-B-E-T-G-M-A-N-H-I-N-E-H-E-N-E. Hey, everybody, everybody. Now it's time for... I'm happy to me. Hello, people of Earth! And hello people of Los Angeles!

We are live at the Wiltern Theater. To talk about Deadfall. Who's got the cake? What is the cake? Is it actually cake? We will get the answer to all these questions and more.

Man, alive, I cannot believe. I've been alive this long. It did not know this movie existed. This should have been done year one of this show. It's so good. This is like finding treasure in your backyard. Nicholas Cage, this crazy and no one told me? This doesn't even make the clip reels

of people showing you how crazy Nicholas Cage is. To dissect this movie, I have to bring out my two amazing co-os, but first let me bring out Mr. Jason Manzukas. What's up, jerks? What's happening in Los Angeles? How are we doing tonight? How we do it, balcony?

Monsters, monsters. monsters in full effect. Oh, my God. Funny thing about the balcony monsters, never wear pants, just the shirts. Pantsless. Just putting their asses on those seats. Rubbing them around. Getting that

Wiltern butt. Got a bad case of Wiltern, but. Oh, yeah. Jason, deadfall. Loved it. I mean, can't. This was where we're. was this.

This is a gem. Nicholas Cage was a revelation in this movie. This was I didn't even know this. This is out there and nobody's been like, how have you not done

this? I blame you fucks for this. I also feel like this is a movie where every scene they introduce something new that tops the craziness of every scene before it. Yes?

You're like, now we're in a pool shark movie with Charlie Sheen. What? It's all about geometry, triangles. Mark Twain. Parallelogram.

Adventures of Tom Sawyer. And my favorite of Connecticut, Yankee, King Arthur's Court. No, is that what he says? Yeah, he only lists titles of the books when he describes Mark Twain.

those books. Never. Why would you improvise such a thing? I feel like that was clearly an improvised moment and he got caught. He's like, Mark Twain, what do I know? What do I know? Books. Should have been like books, writer. You want me to talk about books, right? Well, I'm going to need a pencil thin mustache. Get me the best red suit you can find. Take the curtains down just like gone with the wind. Make me a suit jacket. You know what? Stop plugging unspooled. Don't worry about it. Controversial classic, yes it is. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome my second co-host,

the lovely June Diane Rayfield. How are you, June? I'm good. How are you, Paul? Very good. Thank you for asking. June, thoughts about deadfall. I mean, I had a hard time hearing you guys back there, but it seems like you enjoyed this movie. I did not. Okay. Fair point. Fair point. did wonder, again, it was hard to hear, but I did wonder why we hadn't done it yet, and I was

glad we hadn't done it yet, and I was sad that we had to do it. Would you be sad to find out we're replacing every night of the tour with this movie? That's the tour. The tour. The Deadfall Tour. The Tour is making June watch this movie every night. You know, a couple of people asked me today in my travels around the city. And you do travel. Oh, I do. Who are you talking to?

Are you on a bird scooter? Are you just on a bird scooter rolling through town? I mean, listen, I love community. I love... The TV show? Engage. Six seasons and a movie? He's not announcing the movie.

This is not... Get it together, L.A. So so many people ask me today... And some of these people are friends and people I know and some I didn't know. What's the movie tonight? And I always think this is a sign of a terrible experience in a movie theater where I could not remember the name. And I said it's two words.

It's one. But it's not one word. Yes, it is. It is one word. In this instance it is. Yes, they are two words. But is this. word, what do you, let's bring out

our guest and we'll get into it. Because I don't want to, I don't want to, I have more questions about the title, but let's just start. But wait, but finish your thought, you. Well, but if it's one word, what does that word mean to you? Well, we should bring up a guest. You're saying!

I want to, I just, I thought you said it's a terrible experience when you go to a movie and you don't and it. Well, when you can't, when you can't put the title to the movie at all, when you can't, it's like, I feel like every movie we've done is called whatever this movie is.

I will agree. This has a title that is a, it's a benign, weird nonsense thing. Yes, I agree. And it feels like so many movies we've done, and when you said, I said, what is the movie we're doing? It doesn't feel like so many movies.

Nicholas Cage is doing something that might as well be an animated character in the middle of this movie. I mean, it is next one. I believe to be in blackface for most of this movie. I don't know what's doing with his deal. I guess. I mean...

June doesn't see performances. She just sees titles. Let's bring out our guest, Paul. And then at some point, I'd like to return to this conversation about Dead Paul. I would love to bring us back to that. Because title is actually going to come into play with our guest. And our guest has the unique distinction of having an eye for talent. She is the person who saw Oscar Isaac and said, yeah, that guy's got the goods. And she was right.

She also is one of the greats, one of the stars of Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Please welcome Chelsea. Chelsea, welcome. Welcome. Welcome back, Chelsea. Thank you. Speaking of titles. Speaking of titles, this movie is called Deadfall.

There are two movies called Deadfall. One with Nicholas Cage and one with Olivia Wild. You watch the Olivia Wild one. Tell us about that. I think what happened is that, one, God Hates Me, two, your email, I think that Gmail created a hyperlink. Is that the right terminology? Yeah.

So I clicked the title thinking, You somehow set that up. Got it. Thus, it brought me to the Olivia Wilde. Oscar Isaac. No, he's not in it. Oh, he's not. Okay.

No, no. Then I wouldn't be filled with rage. But, yeah, so I watched a whole snowy hellscape. Was it an enjoyable movie? Were you confused why we were doing it, or would it fit into the show? I have to say it outdoes this deadfall. Oh, wow. I have to say you should now do deadfall part two.

I told you every movie we do is called Deadfall. I'll say this. I think we should do, regardless, all the deadfalls. Every deadfall. Let's do every deadfall. And Deadpool, too. Why not just put it all in there? Anything with Dead and.

Any combination of Dead and Fall in other titles, I'll do that as well. So let's talk about the title. Now, Paul, you're sure you didn't hyperlink that? Yes, we checked it out. I mean... I mean, because that's a big mistake. I know. Also, like, if there's multiple deadfalls, why not just spell it out really?

I literally put in the email to Chelsea. No, this is the deadfall that stars Nick Cage. I also got that email. I didn't click on the link, but if I had, I would have been just as fucked as Chelsea. That's right. I clicked on the links that I sent Chelsea. They all led to deadfall. No, I'll show you.

I'll show you after the show. I wouldn't dream to waste everyone's time. with something this minor. Just me spending hours and hours watching deadfalls of every iteration. How much, did your child do anything for the first time during the course of you watching the wrong deadfall?

I missed him. He sang opera for the first time. At the Met? At the Met? At the Met? He was on stage at the Met. Wow. In Italian and French, apparently.

And you had to watch Olivia Wild Deadfall. Yeah. She had always like a dark lip and I know enough tons of CGI snow and she was just always like with a dark lip peering through CGI snow Well let's talk about the title Deadfall Because June you have an issue with this simple

merging of words I mean what does Deadfall mean to you Honestly I don't know I'm not defending it drop would be a term that I've heard. I mean, maybe I'm going to make myself look a fool right now, but I don't know what that word means.

I wonder, does anybody know nerds? Is there a, is there a definition for deadfall that makes sense for this movie? And if so, Ken, one of you numb nuts figure out how to tell us? I have somebody here. We're going to go down to the audience. We're going to go get him right away. This guy seemed very confident. Okay.

Careful, Paul. I sob. I sob. Sir. Careful, Paul. First tell me your name. My name is Clark. This is Clark. Clark, ask him if he's Superman. Take the glasses up. Take your glasses up.

Oh, he is. Clark, tell us what deadfall means. A deadfall is a type of trap in which a heavy object is triggered to catch and maybe kill or capture your prey. Whoa. Okay. Way to go, Clark. Did you retain anything? Way to go.

A heavy trap. that's used to capture. Like a bear trap? So it would be like if you set like a tree, it would be like if you set a tree up to like this and somebody were to follow through, the tree would fall down and kill an animal. It's like a killing trap.

It's a killing trap. Like I'm assuming if you're hunting or something. Does that make sense for your deadfall? That's a tree fall. No, you would set it up. Like a human being would set it up to do it when triggered. Like purposeful. But more accurately, that name seems better.

I don't know. As he was describing it, I was just zoning out. I can't, like... It was hard. I can't retain that kind of a definition. Because it's hard to think of like, well, so what is an example of a deadfall? Clark. A tree.

Go back to Clark for a second. Our expert. By the way, Clark, I'm already giving Clark a lot of credit because, first of all, he was so succinct. he was right on it and we're still having trouble with it. It's not your fault, it's our fault, yes. Well, I think Wiley Coyote uses that device quite a bit. You use a heavy

rock. A lot of happy people. And twig. And then attached to a rope that you pull when you see your praying. Got it. So like, okay, so he was saying like the Wiley Coyote roadrunner traps. Again, a beautiful description, a heavy rock with a small twig, you pull the thing and the rock

falls in. So it's a killed trap. Is that the only definition? Does someone have a different definition? Is there another example? Is there another example? I'm going to predict this right now. We will not talk about this movie. We will finish this podcast.

You will listen to nine ads for Blue Apron. And we will only talk about the fucking title. How did this get titled, episode one? the taglines of this movie were dot dot dot dot the ultimate con it starts with an ellipsis yep nope because that presumes that something was the first half of that sentence nope dot dot dot dot the ultimate con and the second tagline was how about it what if it was just like james con dot dot dot dot the ultimate con

The other one was You won't know who to trust, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, what to believe, dot, dot, dot, dot, or where to run, period. Let's talk about trivia. Let's talk about trivia. This movie was written by the writer of Green Book. Nick Valalonga,

when I saw his name on the screen, I bolted out of bed he also plays one of the workers in the pizza coffee shop place as well wow wow wee and Nick Valonga

his father is Tony Lip the man that Vigo Mortensen played in Green Book but yeah so this is a this is a precursor to Green Book that you are wow wow which one's better

Nick Valolonga also wrote a movie called In the Kingdom of the Blind The Man with One Eye is King The Corporate Ladder Choker This is all one title So yeah this is This is an interesting

Look Back at where his career started And where he went to and all that sort of stuff This movie is amazing because it starts It looks aggressively low budget And I said to June one of the things that really is really shocking to me

and I couldn't figure out why is this movie so weird and it's because there's no production design and I don't mean that visually I mean it's sound design it's deadly silent and it's unnerving and you know where it's like most evident in the sex scene the sex scene was basically like

slow people having sex who didn't turn any music on it was like Real weird Well, there is something I felt like there was also a lot of ill-fitting underwear in this movie Just like baggy undies

And like Ooh, say it slower Baggy undies I had a very bad reaction To Her underwear His underwear I feel like I wish it would

I want the underwear To be either very tight or very loose but it was so very loose I don't want to be very loose what's an example

of no big deal guys I wear some very loose on your pants off what's going on every other day you switch it up I'm just like putting it in there with a spatula

got to get it pulled through the pants Paul takes his pants off and he's got incredible bloomers on like so loose and big billowy underwear. They're made out of a parachute. If you look at Paul, it's just bunched up in his jeans.

I will say, to put boxers... Three yards of fabric. I have to pull them through the bottom of my pants. This is a conversation we get into a lot with our children where I like their underwear should be tighter. Yeah. And I say to June, you need to give them a little bit of space

for all, everything, you know. But I'm like, let's, doesn't it all need to be contained? And I say no. Doesn't it, are you afraid they're going to get loose? I just wanted to be, like, I wanted to be, like, I wanted to be, like, protected. I mean, pajamas, you like to put them in, like, a sausage casing pajamas. You know why, though, that is because if there were ever, God forbid, a fire, they are safer in very form. fitting pajamas.

But guess what? They are, so they don't get a catch a plane. It's going to be an earthquake. Oh, yeah. What, too, but. They sleep in wrestling singlets, right? Or scuba suits? I don't like, I'm actually concerned about it right now.

Paul's purchased both of them pajamas that are loose. If they're running through a burning house, there's much more of a chance of a sleep. They're going to see a pop patrol, just pa-chill pajamas running flappy pop-chall. pajamas. Well, made of

like fabric-based kerosene, I'm sure. They all say non-flammable. I will say that there is something about seeing a man in boxers in a sex scene. When he goes to grab

his junk out, it's like, ooh, I didn't like it. I didn't like boxers. Just be bare-assed or like you said, wear jockeys or something. We see his hairy ass crack in this movie, and I was like, what is this?

Could you, it's like a straight down the shoe. Yes, I was actually, I commend Coppola for that one. Yes. Chris Coppola. It went up, yeah. Yes, Chris Coppola, Nicholas Cage's brother. It went kind of down into his butt crack and then it like went back like that. It was like, it just almost did it just to be like, in case you're wondering what's doing inside his butt crack? Yeah.

Here's a peek. Let's zoom you in there. Here's a. sexy dingleberry alert like this was this was a wild moment and she reached into his pan oh you're right that's what it was

she reached I remember that shot because again it was sort of evocative for me and she reached in there and grabbed she reached in like you would be reaching into like some sort of like prize chest like let me what am I going to get got to go deeper at the bottom

like as if there were other dicks that you pass around not going to Nope, nope, nope, that's the one, that's the one I want. It was like, well, that's what happens inside a billowy underwear. That's why I'm saying, keep it tight, keep it together, know what you're going to get. But this movie did definitely have too much boob, I said, TMB. I mean, the boob. Too much boob.

Beg to differ. But, I mean, that's fine. Boo. I just thought like it was like gratuitous and not sexy it was just sort of like almost like an art class

but what was hard for me was this movie is and we've not really described what the movie is at all which I love by the way but this is like the archetype is a classic film noir he is a you know

where the femme fatal seduces the guy the guy into falling into a trap and blah blah blah like double indemnity Oh Did you watch it on... It's almost...

One of the greatest movies 100th greatest movies Really? Yeah, on the AFI top plus, yeah. Wow. You see how I'm here talking, June? June, can I talk to you for a song? I'm here talking about classic film noir,

the archetypes of the form, you know? And he just comes in with some unspooled bullshit? It's... Honestly, it's a... At this point, it's aggressive. Amy, go ahead. What did you say, Amy? No, this isn't that show. I'm sorry, what?

Did you just call June, Amy? I'm so sorry, guys. I'm so sorry. And so sorry. And so the archetype dictates that there be a femme fatal to seduce the kind of the guy. And their chemistry is a, straight zero. Like there is nothing compelling about their chemistry

even remote. She seems like a person who has access to a femme fatal's closet, but is not the femme fatals. She's playing dress up. Yeah, she's like, ooh, that hat. She's like a woman who like every Halloween is a femme fatal. Well, this whole movie is costumed like

it was like, the theme is gangster. Like, even that guy who comes out at the pool hall of Charlie Sheen, who's like wearing like a black undershirt and like with a cell phone on the side. It looks like everyone's doing their best pick. I don't have that much at home. I think this is gangster. Yeah, yeah, it's gangster.

It's gangster. You're gangster. The idea that you said, and I did not know this, that this was directed by Nicholas Cage's brother. Yes. Makes so much sense as to why Nicholas Cage is allowed to do what he's doing. Well, Jason, just to kind of put a little bit of a change of your mind here, He came to set in a cage

dressed in a wig, albino contacts, and sunglasses because he thought it would add authenticity to the character and then his brother told him you could not dress however you want for the part. We have people for that. Wow. But it seems like his brother lost a large part of it.

This is what they settled on. This was the scaled back version. This is the version they could agree would be put to film. I will say, too, to go back to the femme fatale lead actor role. At one point when I was watching, I was like, man, this guy reminds me

the guy from Terminator, and they go, oh, it is the guy from Terminator. Michael Bean is like, he's in aliens, he's in so many great movies of this time period. But I love him. I love him in this era, and I love, he's such a great,

I think he's such a great face for this period of movies that I'm like, oh, I feel like I never got more of Michael Bean. I want more Michael Bean. I did not want more Michael Bean. I'm all set. Oh, interesting. I mean, I want Michael Bean in those movies.

The original actors were Val Kilmer and Joanna Whaley. Oh, wow. Yeah, they pulled out right before the movie started shooting. So these two were real last-minute replacements. Wow. See, pulling out really does offer protection. I know we're jumping around, But since we were talking about the sex scene,

can I just play the post-coital scene? Because this is one of the most disturbing revelations of the film when she asks about the locket. What would she like? The girl on the locket. I barely remember. So why do you carry it, then? It's just kind of a reminder, I guess.

Of what? Things I'm still looking for. Like? My God. Like I lied to you. It's not an old girlfriend. It's my mother. Not an old girlfriend.

It's my mom. There is, in this scene, there is no score. There's not a song. There is a song. is, there's nothing it exists in a void. There's no like street noise.

Nothing. Something going by. There's no walla walla. Nope, yeah. A car honk. Nothing. It's deadly silent. It's as silent as that void, that black void that they had sex in, because they're in a hotel room

and then it's just a black void. It's like in under the skin where Scarlett Johanson puts everybody, this movie takes place in that liquid. I want to show you that movie, June. I'm scared. I would like to be there to watch June watch that movie. No, but it's so weird that no sound is involved.

All right, so the movie starts off. Michael Bean is in... Sorry, Paul. So, what... Is there another person in the locket, or he just has a locket with just one picture? That's weird. Also, what did happen to his mother? And do men wear lockets? Not to make it heteronormative, but it doesn't seem like... That's so funny, that never even crossed my mind. Like, in this complete shitstorm of incoherent details, I didn't even think of that.

And then he takes it off before sex, like, hold on. But drops it up open so mom can watch him fuck. He's like, I want my mommy to. watch us. Fuck. I didn't know her, so it's not that weird. This gets me off. Also,

um, also, I felt like it is strange to have an, there is a sadness to a locket that has two sides and only one side is full. Yes. Maybe she would be the other person.

It's like wearing a beef fry stuh ends, best friends, uh, uh, locket and being like, I don't know who has the other half. absolutely so he's walking around with a heart-shaped locket around his neck yes wow okay it's funny to me that he thinks it's more awkward to say it's his mom than to say

it's another girl yeah here like it's better oh i'm memorializing my mom she died no he's hiding that by being like it's a girlfriend that i carry a locket of all the time or here but hear me out it's also like it's my mommy that i wear on my heart it's pretty weird if you're You're like trying to get involved to someone, you take that. I mean, they both suck. Both are red flags. Yeah, they're huge, huge red flags.

I mean, good thing that she doesn't have much of a sensibility because she's dating Nick Cage we meet her, so I think her bar is set very low. And just to get into Nick Cage in this world,

Nick Cage in this movie, wow. I mean... It's kind of like there's not... I think the tough thing about it is just like, what do you say?

You know, what do you say? I know what to say. Okay. Phenomenal. No, I feel like his performance feels like, you know when you're shooting something? You guys know. And like, it's like between takes,

you're joking around with the other actors. You're like, ooh, see my line like this. And then he actually did it. I feel like he was like, hey, do you dare me to do this whole movie as Tony Clifton? Yes, I wrote that down. Do you dare me to do this whole movie as Tony Clifton?

I will do it. It's half Tony Clifton, half Al Pacino's Scarface. Like, I don't know what he's up to, but I'm obsessed with it. It's not, it doesn't belong in this, it's from another movie. And it's all through clenched teeth. Oh, one particular over here. Let's go. It's like, it's not easy.

Also, like, why does he need a, prosthetic nose. Like, there's no reason. Is there? Does it come into play in any way? I think it came with the glasses. It's also tough, like, is his character an insane person?

Well, yes. Well, yes, but it doesn't seem like the world is reacting to him, like, oh, there's, there's a nut, there's a mentally unstable, and person in our midst. Like, we have to all be

quite cautious. Oh, I Arguably, if I'm L.A. James Coburn, right? Yes, the uncle. If I'm Uncle Lou or whatever, the idea that this is your right-hand man means you're bad at being a gangster. Because he is... Not subtle. He is unwell.

He is, like, everybody is so subtle, including the monkey's Mickey Dolan's. Shouts to who Mickey Dolan's, the monkeys who's in there. Everybody's being such... As a prestle salesman, they seemingly this mafia owns a block and everyone that is in the block is part of this

weird conman mafia, but are they just conning themselves all day? No, they're running numbers. They're taking bets on like a neighborhood lottery basically. They're numbers runners or whatever. In what looked to me like the farmer's market. Yes. On Fairfax.

Which was very strange. But like if, Nicholas, like they're all doing such a good job of being subtle about the crime they're committing and Nicholas Cage is literally enormous he's dressed insanely he's screaming all of his lines everything

I mean if you did not watch the movie I'm certain there's some compilation of his scenes well I mean you have to find it here's a little taste of Nick in the Nick in the bar here we go

what's your problem boy I thought we were seven Well, we are with that, baby. It's nothing to worry about. What the hell you bothered me for? The baby's it all cranky tonight, huh? Yeah. I don't dig looking at your ugly face.

Now, your pot lie. Even as a cool dude. Cool enough to get that baby to burp up 1,500? I didn't pay him jack's shit. He told me all that to do was walk outside with and shake his head, and I was even. Are you telling me that was? This is fucking money.

Somebody's after your job, boy. I bet he even stole your woman. I can't get my back! I can't! Look at that! Fucked! I picked that scene I picked that scene because literally

every line is a different different voice. Different voice. Yep. Different voice. That's, that, let me be clear. That's the only take they could use. However many takes they did, they were like, this is the only one. This is the one that makes the most sense, I guess.

Excuse me, Nick. I know we're brothers, but can you not throw water in the face of the extras without telling them? And also don't punch an extra, too, because in a second later, he just punches a guy in the stomach. And I feel like no one was aware of any of that. It is, it is, it is, he's basically in the middle of a noir, like a seedy noir riff, a terrible CD noir riff. He's basically doing a Comedia del Arte character. He's playing like a clown. Yeah, he's stated.

like you are in comedia. Like, you're just angry, you're just sad. He's fully stated the entire movie. I mean, I love the commitment to it because no one else is doing this. Like, it's not like, it's so big. Can you imagine being in a scene with this? Well, that's sort of what I'm saying.

Like, I genuinely think, I don't think he thought this was going to be a good movie. I think he sort of is like, Like, my brother sucks. Like, and I'm just going to have fun. You know what I mean? Like, do you think he thought this was a well-conceived? Chelsea, I would agree with you.

Except? He made a sequel to this movie. Nicholas Cage took this character and made a sequel in 2017. What? What are you talking about? They love it. What? What are you talking about?

Is it called Deadfall 2? The Rise of Eddie? Let me see. Oh my God. So this movie comes out in 1993 and 2017, Nicholas Cage brings back Eddie with a very interesting group of people. Bear with it because he comes in in a little bit later, but here we go.

It's worth it. You know, Mike, I have a job for you if you wanted. My brothers. Who'd worry about me? Listen, I need to talk to you about Mikey. It's always something. Is it true what I heard? You bought some Coke?

You wanted to flip it? What you want me to say? So you're a drug dealer now. Get my Coke! Ah! Where are you? Your brother is always getting into trouble. It's Mikey.

I owe everything to him. I think we were even. Oh, you think we're even, you and I? I know of a way we can both earn what we deserve. There's no amount of money that I would do that for. You owe me! You owe me! Wow!

And again, like a, what looks like a gritty crime thriller with a cartoon character, with Tony Clifton in the middle of it. By the way, how it is even? even exist in this movie. How would he ever survive the deep prior death? Right. With no scar. No. Here's the challenge. It looks... Make the third

movie. This is not even two years old. My question was, ultimately, who is that? Yeah, yeah. Who is like in the bus, in the

bus, when Michael Bean is taking the Plus, we wreck focus to this guy. And I was like, huh, okay, well, obviously that guy's part of the story. Yeah. And then here he is, again, and he gets killed outside. And did anybody ever tell me where and why the beard guy was involved? Right? I understood it as there was an ad in backstage.

It says if you had a fake beard, a fake wig, a tick or a voice, you could just show up and you get a part. And be in the movie. Like, I genuinely did not know. I'm assuming that the uncle must have hired him. Or did his dad hire? His dad probably hired him to keep an eye on him. Oh, was the dad trying to, using this guy? Okay, I get it.

James Coburn the dad hired fake beard to kill Nick Cage because Nick Cage might kill Michael B. Oh, got it. Right? That's got to be it because he probably wanted to protect his son within the dangerous situation who was putting his son in without this son's knowledge and saw Nicholas Cage as so erratic as to be potentially a threat to the sun, which Nicholas Cage was already starting to assume that Michael Bean

was trying to kill him, right? I don't know. I don't know. That makes sense. Can anyone up here take a stab at just what ultimately from beginning to end the con was? Oh, yeah. I mean, I think The beginning to end, like the beginning of the movie. The beginning, yeah. So he, basically, the dad fixes death, knowing that the son will go find his brother. And then the son will start working for the brother to get involved in this big diamond con. And then... And how would the dad know that?

It's a leap of faith. It's a real... Wait, was the... Did the dad set that up? Yeah. The diamond? Did the dad set... the diamond deal in motion with

Harry Houdini or whatever Harry Wait the first one or the second diamond one? The only The macro because okay so you have James Cobra and the dad right and in the opening scene Michael Bean thinks he's killed him and everybody goes their separate ways

okay Peter Fonda everybody else right but he also walks out with doesn't he walk out with money and Peter Fonda does say to him like your dad wants you to get the cake. Yeah. So that's...

And his dad's dying words were, go to my brother, get the cake, or... Yeah, so that's how... Whatever. Like, of all this, I just heard cake. Yes.

Agree. The whole movie, I was just like, hmm, cake. And it really was, like, and the cake, I guess, again, like, a noir way,

I guess the cake is, like, contains a thing, like the Maltese Falcon. I thought the cake was just, I feel like that cake is the term for a diamond. What the ring is in. No, the engagement ring

for the shared woman that they loved, right? That's the cake? It was in a case. Oh, right, yes. It was in a cake. He twisted it. The box was a cake.

And why would you give somebody an engagement ring in a wedding cake? Yeah, it's confusing. The weird thing is it's not like... It's not even a... It's not supposed to look like an actual cake. It's just this weird figurine, this weird cake figurine.

And correct me if I'm wrong. Well, I thought it was supposed to look like a cake. Well, it... It looks like a cake, but it's like a precious moments figurine or something. It doesn't... No, yeah, it looks like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't actually look like a cake. Oh, it does, though.

Wait, what do you mean? You mean just the scale, the scale. Thank you. If you saw it, you would not eat it. Right. Oh, no, no, it's in the shape of a cake. It's not like realistically a cake. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, yeah, but it's in the shape of a cake. It's like a mini cake. Right, but I don't understand what world are we in in which you're handing someone that. Right, that's the same. Like, if you're proposing... If you're proposing and wanted you a fun bit around, like, here's your dessert...

It would have to look like a real... Yes, yes. Otherwise, she's like, what are you doing? Oh, wait, are you presuming that the reason it looks like a cake is because it was delivered during the dessert course of a meal? Why else would this engagement ring be in any... I thought it was just like a fancy ring box in the shape of a cake?

But that doesn't take... This was the actual cake that was delivered. Oh, they went all out on that one. They looked like they didn't even go to the store to buy a cake from Gelson's. They just, someone in the back just slap some stuff together. To be fair, that does look like the cake that that woman character would have made. Absolutely. I thought it was a great choice. By the way, it looks delicious.

It looks so milty. By the way, I will say, what an odd birthday. a ham in the afternoon. Disgusting. Just a giant ham. Afternoon ham. Come over for some afternoon ham and cake. Gross.

Can I ask a question to, wasn't the engagement ring inside red? Was it a giant ruby? Is that what we're to believe? And wasn't the cake brown? What's that? Yeah, the cake was brown. Like an odd choice.

An unfrosted wedding cake. Yeah. Like, it should. have at least been white. Yeah, put some fond on on that. Okay, nailed it. But I mean, there is so much going on. I think the con is go work for my brother

and then we'll get all that money from him because at the end they get that suitcase full of money and he gives it to everybody. Everyone seems to get a small stack and then they keep the giant suitcase together. He's like, we split it. Right, but I guess my question is, why set him up to do that?

Is there no other person? I just wasn't quite understanding. I think, I... It felt like a long road. I suspect it was the presumption that James Coburn, the uncle, would probably welcome his nephew into his trust rather than if he tried to get Peter Fonda to go.

and get involved in James Coburn, the uncle's gang. So do you think, though, that there's any world in which he could have done that without faking his own death? Yeah. If he trusted his son, but he basically played his son. Why not bring him into it? Yeah, he didn't trust him. That's it?

I assume so. I think he did trust him, but he needed to make the son really mournful because who knows who's watching him. We don't know. But he also, like, set him up with the woman? So he didn't trust his acting. Yes. Yes.

By the way, can we talk about the best performance of the film, that opening scene where they're doing the Coke deal? Whoever's buying the cocaine is scooping it like that woman scoops dicks out of boxers. It is like, I've never seen anyone taste cocaine, like, blah, blah, blah. Like, he's throwing it in his mouth like a once. I can see angels. I can see angels. Isn't it Michael Constantine?

Is it, oh my gosh. Yeah, it's Michael Constantine, the father from my big fat Greek wedding. I mean, as well as a million other great things. He sucks in that cocaine. Here, it's like him just shuffling. Almost as if it perhaps is real cocaine. Just,

two fingers in his mouth. Also, two things. Hey, Chris, I'm so sorry. We did not. get lights. We have two flashlights. All right. Point one at each guy. We'll see what we can get. He thought it was film noir.

You don't need lights. It's supposed to be dark. We haven't even gotten to... So much. I can't believe what time is. I know. We maybe shouldn't have spent 20 minutes on the title. We did like the title, the cake. Okay. And I'm sorry to spend

one more minute on the cake, but I have to. Can we find a picture of a ball? Yeah, find a picture of the cake and I may need to see the cake scene. I don't know if I can. That's a big ass. Okay, don't worry about it. But I want a consensus up here at least. So we all

think that the cake was the presentation of an engagement ring. Correct. Wow, wow, wow, wow. That's so crazy. So in that presentation, Okay He's just thinking like Oh

Here's your Here's your engagement ring box Which is in a cake I think James Coburn might have done one of these And opened the cake No he couldn't it's a screw top It was? Yeah he screwed it

I noticed because I felt like the actor Like screwed it too much What he was screwing it? So was he trying to hide it in the office So it was just it wouldn't look like an engagement ring box Because if I saw that I would walk over to it It was in a safe

Oh it was in a safe This is like when a director's directing a scene And the actor's like I have to ask another question about The cake box That I'm so, I'm just Why do I have to know about the cake box? Like what is it to me?

And if it's in the safe Why does it need to be in the cake box Couldn't it just be in a And the thing seems to be That the James Coburn The Uncle had the cake box And the ring made for the woman That James Coburn the father then stole

Is that right? Right, because at one point, James Coburn, the uncle says you could have been my son. Which isn't how it works. Weird, that's not how it works. At all. That's not how that works.

And keep in mind, that woman fucked twin brothers. And by the way, they had James Coburn, but yet that picture is the most Photoshop picture I've ever seen. It looks like one picture is taking in the 70s

and one picture was taking in the late 80s, and both of the people who were in that picture, We're not looking at the camera. They're, like, veering off to the side. I thought he was pretty hot as the uncle. Oh, Uncle Lou, yeah.

The white hair? Yeah. The white hair looks great on him. Yeah, it was better than the dark. And it was like California was treating Uncle Lou well. Yeah, yeah. Uncle Lou had found love. They were going to Tahiti.

He had it made. Uncle Lou, though, spends a long period of time, because I get what they're trying to do, not reveal his face, not reveal he's a twin. although that's a big hole that you and your dad would never say oh yeah my brother and I are twins but whatever

so they have to hide his face so he's like looking out the window for an exorbitantly long period of time there's nothing going he's like yes so I'm glad you're here and think that that would be cool if we could talk about some stuff and anyway

boom check it out and that's where like there would be like a music sting to tell you something that happened, but it's just empty, it is the vacuum of space. Do you think there's any way he actually is his son? Wow, a lot of agreement, June. Okay, I'll go down this road.

Because at the very end... So you think when she left with the father, she might have already been pregnant from Uncle Lou and... Potentially. Because there's a moment at the end when the carousel is going, around, and he's sort of, like, trying to figure out his relationship to his dad, and it felt like the world was spinning.

Yeah. And especially because he said, you could have been my son. Well, there's no way he could be his son, unless he actually could have been a son. Oh, okay, I see what you're saying. So he was right. If she stayed with me, you would have been my son. And what's interesting is that the movie creates a more compelling connection. between Michael Bean and Uncle Lou

Uncle Lou's like come to Tahiti with us come live with us come be with us be a family or whatever on Uncle Lou's ticket that just says one way I've never seen a ticket printed one way and then his father comes in kills Uncle Lou and is like fuck you and his dad's basically like a full on piece of shit

and his hair is like just hastily darkened with shoe polish again it's like glistening it's glistening got invited to the gangster party It's like I really don't have anything And he was like I'll put some shoe polish in my hair That's gangster right It's like everybody got dressed

From the Tim Robinson sketch Where he's got all those mafia pieces For that party What about Charlie Sheen As the pool hustler Fats That was I was like

Okay here we go Yet another person that's revealed Like we said earlier That's his character's name? His name is, they call him Fats, but his name is Morgan Grip. Morgan Grip. I was imagining him having to rehearse that line.

You can call me Fats. What? Hang on. Sausage. Hang on. Sausage. Sausage. Sausage. Sausage.

Sausage. Sausage. Sausage. Sausage. Why are we saying sausage? Sausage. Clark, do you know why they're saying sausage? Oh, his assistant is called sausage.

Has this been worth it? Aren't you glad you ground this to a full halt just so we could figure it out? Was this a satisfying part of the podcast? I hate you. So, Charlie Sheen's introduced... Morgan Grip. I don't even really understand

where he falls into the... world ultimately, but I really do think what I'd like to play is his monologue about Mark Twain, which we talked about a little bit, but here we go. Oh, by the way, when they're playing this pool scene, none of these shots are impressive to me, and I don't think that they're never do you see like a ball go in. Oh, they're not playing, they're not playing pool in pockets, they're playing like snooker or whatever. Not Snooker.

What's it called? What is it? Billiards? All right. Sausage! They're playing sausage. They're playing sausage. No, they're just playing a different

pool game that doesn't have pockets. Okay, well, they're playing a pool all right, because he does reveal that table without them. I didn't know there were pool games without pockets. Seems like there's no payoff. Each time you have to hit, like, both balls or something. That's so lame. Go on.

Dismiss. To explain that to the audience, like, hey, the thing that you're so familiar with, it would be like if you did a bowling scene, but it was like, no, no, no, but you never put the ball on the alley. Because I was like, what am I watching here? No, no, it's just like the bowling we know, but there's no pins. You just roll a ball down a lane. And a score is given, because it's all geometry. I think this is the Mark Twain moment here.

This was Sam. Samuel Langhorne Clemens. You know, Mark Twain. The genius behind Huck Finn, Tom Sawyer. Personal favorite of mine. A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. He used to play whenever he had writer's block. He said it was good for the brain.

and end of monologue. And we never, we never see him make a shot in the scene. Nope. Like we never see him and the shot in the same, and the pool shot in the same camera shot. By the way, okay. But what would the shot mean if we don't know even what the game is? I guess, I guess that's true.

By the way, I just think it's funny to refer to an author as the genius behind because it's like you can say that but when you see it's something where you don't where the genius is not certainly clear it's like oh yeah he's the genius behind that movie but you know the author of the book from the guy that brought you Tom

Tom Sawyer and the guy behind Huck Finn behind Huffin leads you to believe that there are other people that also like executed it as well that's the only scene with any music in the background shocked me Oh, my gosh.

And then Charlie Sheen works for a man who has a lobster claw for a hand. What was this? What was this? What was that? That guy, here's the thing. That guy and Nicholas Cage are in the same movie.

That's true. These guys are named Rosencrantz and Gildenstern are dead other movies somewhere where they're fucking linked up. It's called Eddie and the Claw. And like... Coming out 2020. Coming out 2020, they've both finally got to find...

This is like a Dr. Evil set up right here. Another guy shot in a black room. There's a lot of black rooms in this movie. We don't understand... Do we understand why he has the claw hand? Nor does he ever really use it. Just to... Shake hands.

...touch things in a weird way. It's, yeah. It's like he could use his other hand. Yeah. But he's selfish and he doesn't want to learn how to use it. But if you're going to give him... If someone a claw for a hand and he never clipped, like, chops anything with it, what's the point?

This is Chekhov's claw. Like, let's do this. No. I did think he was going to pick up a diamond with it, but he didn't use it to pick up the diamonds. And also, for a man like this who appears to be a diamond buyer, seller, something like that, why does he need to have, like, a vicious claw? I mean, we're in a world. Put a loop on the end

so you can look at diamonds with your hand. That's your repetitive motion. Right, you're saying if there's nothing there, if you don't have a hand there. Ironically, he never chops a hand off, but I guess his hand... So you're saying just put like a giant magnifying glass on it? Yes, I mean, that's part...

That's the thing he uses the most. Because when he has to look through the loop, his partner or his henchman has to hold the loop up to his eyes. And he's got to like... Because to, do his work, his claw hand is obsolete. It's a metaphor

for the movie plot. Like, overcomplicated, unnecessary. But we've all been in that thing where you doctor says, hey, you lost your hand, you want the claw hand, and you think that would be so cool. And the only when you get home you're like, I should just have gone for the normal

hand, man. Guaranteed middle of, this is one of those scenarios where in the middle of the night, you're half asleep, you full on chop your own dick off. Because you just go to hold it with the wrong hand, and it's like, chop, chop, chop, see you later. Oh, my gosh.

This scene leads into my favorite scene of the movie, which is the gangsters getting ready around a table as the camera spins. And holy shit, you want to talk about some acting. Every actor, when that camera's on them, they are giving, they are like, this is it. They're given their whole lives.

That scene, I mean, that scene was masterful. Why does that woman have two long nails? They look like Coke nails. Oh, it's just a cocaine. I guess I've never seen cocaine nails. I've never seen two together. Isn't it just you have one cocaine now? I mean...

Maybe one is for like... Maybe it's like one is for cocaine and one is for some of. other snortable drug? Or what if, you know, she gets her hand chopped off like her boyfriend, and she's like, shit, I want to get a claw hand, but I also don't want to stop doing cocaine, so it's already ready to get. I know what it is. I bet all the nails

were that long, but her boyfriend chopped off a bunch of them accidentally. Oh my gosh. This is, this, this, this, this is, wow, this was a wow. This was a wild ride, this movie. I enjoyed the, the abject nonsense of this trash. What's crazy is the other deadfall.

The central relationship has a theme of incest and it still had a lot more dignity. Now we have to do it because that seems to be a theme in a lot of our movies. Can I ask, Chelsea, what is the deadfall in the other movie?

No idea. The trees? Much like this one, I was tuned out for much of it. Let's go to the crowd. Let's see what you all have to say about this movie. All right. I'm going to ask you all to do it in your best Nicholas Cage in Deadfall voice. I won't take a no.

You've got to present. And look, just, you know, Nicholas Cage just gives an A for efforts. That's all we're looking for. A for effort. All right, so this person has the question. I don't know if it's going to be good. All right, here we go. This is my spidey sense

of doing this show live a bunch of times. Ma'am, your name and the best in the cage, and then your question. My name is Annabelle. Bullshit. Bullshit! Annie hoodles, my question is for you, darling, June. The murder scene in the vat of boiling oil

is so violent and so disgusting. How did you, like, just... that in your brains, I don't know, that was so gross and horrible. Like, wasn't that scary to everybody? And he ripped the wig off first. Like, why? Like, why did that happen? I know.

Did he ingest the boiling oil into his throat? These are all things that happened in the movie. These are all things that happened. My spider sense is never wrong. Up to the balcony! I don't know. I found that scene to be erotic. Oh, that's so concerning.

All right, I am up in the balcony. Where? There, oh, there. Please be careful. Great. Front row here in the balcony. All right, sir, your name and the best Nick Cage voice and your question, let's go. Come on down to me.

All right. Hi, my name's. Casey, uh, pressure's gonna be really bad, but, uh, yeah, we are. Secret Protectors. What's happening? I'm walking away. I'm walking away.

I was so confused. Just be careful, Paul. Forget about it, Paul. I thought I was this out of breath from running up all those stairs, but then I was like, this is making sense. Oh, you got to remember to be a little bit more, you got to give them an eyeball. We have one final question from a woman with...

Where are you? You have to let this woman ask a question. That's who I'm going to. That's what I'm going to. She was going to be my final one. I knew there was one person to pull us out of this. I want to say, ma'am, you have been jumping up and down, yelling and screaming. I want you to really right now examine, is this worth it?

There's absolutely no way. We're going to do something a little bit different tonight. Tonight we're only going to take one question from the audience. Ma'am. say your name in the best Nicholas Cage voice and ask your question. My name's Jacqueline. I don't know.

Okay, so my question is this. I was so sad when he died 45 minutes into the movie. I thought that there were going to be another Nicholas Cage twin coming into the movie. Like, was that something that you guys would totally, like, be down with?

He died out way early on. I'm not going to lie. You burned 700 calories jumping up and down to ask that question. I mean, even when Paul was walking toward you, you didn't stop jumping. So the question is, would you be down with that? In a movie where there are twins, did we think part of the reveal would be another set of twins? No. I feel comfortable saying, no, I did not.

No, it wasn't even that. asked if we would be down with that. Would we be down with another twin in a movie that was already made? I feel comfortable saying, no, I would not like it. I mean, I guess I'll say, I would be down with it. Sure. Well, because of time, we weren't able to go to the audience

for questions. That's a bummer. Let's get right down to second opinions. That's right. We have an opinion about this movie with their people out there are different opinion. It's now time for second. Opinions.

Yo, I got a second opinion, and I'm so glad that you're hearing it. I just finished this movie, and that was touching my sperament. So much I had to hop on Amazon.com just to let you people know that this movie's the bomb. I watch this movie every night with my family and friends, and then I wait for them to leave, and then I watch it again. Top to bottom, crazy movies are fun, but I think that thought was lost on everyone. Yo, ignore the reviews, movie critics are ruthless.

Worst of them all, June Paula Mazzuccas. Just stop it. You're so called up looking for logic. Characters and plot, man, all of it's toxic. I'm hype and I'm lit because this flick is the shit. I give this movie five stars. If I could, I give it six. Whoa, amazing.

Give it up for Tony. Holy shit, that was amazing. Here we go. L.A. may not be the place for questions, but it is the place for song. Here we go. Now it's time for second opinions. That is his mom

Oedipus complex Why is the old silent Why did they have slow sex Second opinions I don't know why you'd have them The plot is a turducan Three Coppola's four Fuck them

When your dad falls in his locker Find your uncle Rota Khan Together Mickey Dolans Is a bad guy You may ask why He is not a monkey On Deadfall

On Deadfall on Deadfall. Genevieve. There you go. Thank you, Genevieve. What did I tell you? Spidey Sense. Genevieve, that was fantastic.

Okay, 42 reviews for Deadfall on Amazon. In total? In total. It's a very low number. It averages 3.6. out of five stars, there are 36% are five-star reviews. I'll say this much. The five-star reviews are in on it,

for the most part, in these. So this one is written by Pro-Izzle. And Pro-Izell writes in December 17th, 2016, dude, this movie is so entertaining. Not for those easily insulted. Five stars. Insulted? Like, insulted by bad filmmaking.

Michelle Huss in February 2015 said, to give the story the right number of stars, for the cheesy feel to the movie minus two stars. I do mean cheesy. For more twists in the storyline than balloon animals at the fair, three stars. So now we're at one star. For the not-obvious clues I saw after the fact, I felt like an idiot, two stars.

Now we're at three stars. The best part of the whole movie, Nicholas Cage, five stars. Eight stars. That is it. Five out of five. Wow, that's like that new math. Yeah. That's what Terrence Howard invented, right?

All right, so this one is Okay, this was a good one From Dakota Watched it until Cage dies Up until that point It was amazing. Five stars. I will say once he's gone It is a much worse movie.

Yeah, so it sounds like you would be down for a twin. I mean, I guess I've seen him do it in adaptation, so I guess I can see it being done. I guess I'd be down with it. And finally we end on... You win! And finally we end on Gordon New, who writes,

The dark scenes are blacker than noir, and the dialogue is riper than pulp fiction. Kig's character is original. He's calculated overacting is as fine as parody as I've ever seen. He put some thought into the role and did a far better job than most of his work required. the obligatory intrigue is masterfully done.

The dramatic cinematography is magnificent. The musical score is straight out of history. The plot has more twists. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The musical score was straight out of history? Out of history. What does that mean? What is that straight out of history?

I thought this is a facetious review, but I don't think it is. The musical score was straight out of history. And the plot has more twists than my grandma's pretzels. Well acted, well produced, and well edited. Enjoyable on so many levels. Five stars. Wonderful movie.

Wait, was that from Paul Wetzel? I was going to say it was... I didn't know how to correlate it to Aunt Annie. Oh, yeah. This movie came out. in 1993. The budget was, anyone want to take a guess

at that budget? $10 million. Where? $10 million. And the opening weekend gross was $9,183. The domestic gross was $18,300.

And how is there a sequel? How did they get a sequel? That's crazy. I think that Nicholas Cage just said he wanted to do it. It ranked 252 out of all the movies that came out in 1993. To give you an idea of what was coming out in 1993, Jurassic Park, Mrs. Doubtfire, the fugitive. This movie was beaten by Demolition Man, Super Mario Brothers, Body of Evidence, Surf Nidges, Mr. Nanny, and Airborne. And there are only seven movies made in 1993 that made less money than Deadfall. 0% on rotten tomatoes.

And we thank our producer, Averill Halley, for bringing this movie to our attention. Holy cow. And before we leave, I want to just, April made this. It's a mash-up of all the VO in the movie. I won't play the whole thing.

My favorite line was, The Coast was alive, but I had no time for the sights. The coast was alive? This is just the Vio all cut together I'll just play a little bit of it and we'll put this up online

So here you go Secret I swore I'd uncover The coast was alive But I had no time for the sights I was looking for something to tip me off A break in the routine A place to start the hunt It looked like I had to pay my dues

By Wilding Dunklew's flunky Fucker fucked Well at least he was a lively fellow Shape the con or it'll shape you Pop would say Wise words, my new friend Eddie never learned. He was the type of a badass bluff man that was stuck on the high you get from the con. That's bad news.

Eddie was kid stuff. Lou was the real deal. He was as clever as pop, a true pro of the high con. I saw that right away. And he... This is a little taste of just all the VO mash together. I would love it if someone would just cut together

all of the Nicholas Cage lines. I would watch that like... I mean, it's here. It is here, right? I think when I just Googled it, it just popped up. It just says, like, yeah, honoring the craziest performance. Oh, great. Thank God. I mean, we don't have time to watch that.

Thank God this exists. Watch it at your leisure. It's seven minutes. This audience is insane. All right. Thank you, L.A. You have been a fantastic crowd. All right, and that was us.

Live from The Willtern, a big thank you to Chelsea Perretti, who is just fantastic. We were so excited to have her back. A big thank you to our producer, Averill Halley, for cutting these clips and finding these movies. Nate Kylie for doing all of our research. Devin, who's here in The Willtern with us, Cody Fisher, our other producer, everybody at Earwolf. Also, Kyle Waldron, for doing our amazing artwork that you see on our Instagram and Facebook page. And, by the way, follow us all on the social media. We love that.

We love to have you there, especially the How Did This Get Made Social Media? And let's continue this conversation about Deadfall next week on our mini episode where you can give me a call at 619, P-A-U-L-A-S-K, that's-1-9 Paul Ask. We'll see you next time.