How Did This Get Made? - Dream A Little Dream LIVE! (w/ James "Projector" Acaster)

Episode Date: November 29, 2024

James Acaster (Off Menu) joins Paul, June, and Jason to break down the 1989 body swap (maybe?) rom-com Dream A Little Dream starring Corey Feldman, Meredith Salenger, Jason Robards, and Corey Haim. LIVE from Largo in L.A., they discuss the parents' age difference, Lainie's mom & Ron drugging their own daughter, the bike collision, all the music montages, and if one body swap might actually be a dormant body swap. Plus, James experiences a full character arc throughout the show and a surprise guest gives an inside scoop on the movie. Go to hdtgm.com for ticket info, merch, and for more on bad movies.Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaFor extra content on Matinee Monday movies, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerTalk bad movies on the HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul’s movie recs on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out new HDTGM movie merch over at teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmPaul and Rob Huebel stream live on Twitch every Thursday 8-10pm EST: www.twitch.tv/friendzoneLike good movies too? Subscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastWhere to find Paul, June, & Jason:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on social mediaGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm.

Jason Robards is Corey Feldman and Corey Feldman is Jason Robards. We saw Dream a Little Dream so you know what that means. I'm gonna take you from the pool while the waves roll Rain against the street by the hope to blow off steam Just a sucker punch the on-line for typically great shot I'm in with the birdemic, how you stayin' alive They call me when they're badass and he's on the line Cranking they state limits cause they cool as ice Cause they're bad Jim Bonny looking kind and nice I'm in with the big boys, I'm in with the big boys I'm in with the big boys, I'm in with the big boys

I'm in with the big boys, I'm in with the big boys I'm in with the big boys, I'm in with the big boys I'm in with the big boys, I'm in with the big boys I'm in with the big boys, I'm in with the big boys I'm in with the big boys, I'm in with the big boys The pandemic, how we stand alive? They call me when they're badass and he's on the line. Cranking eight state limits cause they cool as ice. Cause they're bad, Jim Bonny looking kind and nice. Calling June, getting literal, Jason is getting lame. Julis making sure all the monkey shots get the pain. They're just a bunch of movies, one be making the grade.

Here's a real question for you, how did this kid pay? Hello people of Earth! And hello people of Los Angeles! We are live at Largo to talk about the best Cory's movie ever made, Dream a Little Dream, a movie that came out in 1989.

Now, I never have done this before, but I'm doing it tonight because I was worried that you might have trouble tracking what the hell we're talking about. So what I did was I decided to pull the description from Wikipedia about this movie just to put us on the same page and I think this will help. Bobby Keller is a slacker high school student who while running through a shortcut through a backyard in his neighborhood one night, collides with Laney

over whom Bobby has recently been obsessing. During the collision, elderly professor Coleman Edinger is performing a meditation exercise in the yard with his wife Gina, theorizing that if he and his wife can enter a meditative alpha state together, voluntarily they will be able to live together forever. However, just as the Edingers are on the verge of completing their meditation experiment, the teenager's collision renders both teens unconscious

and acting a type of body switch between the four characters. Whoo! Wow. a body switch between the four characters. Whoo! Wow. That's the baseline that we just need to understand. We'll break it all down, but I figured if I just laid that down, it puts us on the same page,

because honestly, that clarified a few things for me. This movie is an hour and 54 minutes. When I saw that, everything stopped. I got upset. It's a Corey's movie. Then I did a little research and I heard that the original cut is four hours. And that Corey Feldman has been trying to get that cut back out, released. Thank God he has not been successful. He did, however, get a sequel made with the teen witch herself, Robin Lively.

We'll talk about that later, but right now there's so much to talk about, and I can't wait another minute. Please welcome to the stage my co-host, Mr. Jason Manzoukas! -♪ Whoo! -♪ What's up up jerks? That's right. How we doing, Largo? Yeah, let's go. How we doing, Jason? Everybody else, shut up.

That's right. There is a Jason in the audience tonight. It's a night of Jason's. Robards. Suits. This motherfucker. He gets it. Jason, I was saying that I was familiar with this film.

I was not. Okay. I never saw it, but I saw the commercial for it. Release the Cory cut. Release the Cory cut. Give me four hours of this. The fact that it was ever, like any cut of this was four hours is irresponsible. And I read, because I read that too, and I read the other two hours is just more montages.

More montages set to music. For a movie that is either about three or four people or three or four hundred people, I'm not sure. I can't make heads or tails of it. And the one pure joy of this film was watching it before our next co-host comes out here on stage and then setting myself in a perfect position to watch her face as she saw certain scenes unfold.

That's your kink. That, it truly is. It's like walking in front of somebody in a haunted mansion and they're like, oh, they're gonna get the shit scared out of them now. I cannot wait. I cannot wait. For you, it's just watching June watch Love on a Leash.

It works. It works for me. And ladies and gentlemen, please welcome our next co-host, June Diane Rayfield. -♪ -♪ -♪ -♪ -♪

-♪ -♪ -♪ -♪ -♪ -♪ Welcome, June. How are you? I'm well. How are you, Paul?

I'm fine. Thank you so much for asking. You know, I Just finished this movie and I mean minutes before In the green there's two green rooms back there. I was in one of them and could hear the movie ending As if it was an echo of my life, but an hour ago Yeah flashback like we were in the dream state together. Right. Let's all enter the dream state together tonight.

I want to get started because we have to talk about that description. There are several issues. Okay, I got it, I got it. Now here's what I'll say. Yes, the movie is almost two hours. Which I couldn't believe. Every time I paused and there was still so much. Because I was like, what's happening plot wise is wrapping up.

Yeah, it must be. When I saw it was still 35 minutes, I was like, it's over. They've already, the dance is done. It's been over. It's been over for a long time. I thought I was watching it with commercials cause I watched it on Amazon. And when I played it, it said with commercial breaks

and then started and I was like, where's that commercial break? Where is it? Like I need a break. By the way, I'd like to be advertised to. Yes, someone. Please, please let me. Now I'll tell you this much, at an hour and 55 minutes,

when the credits come on, you would think I would slam down that laptop and be like, done. No, I watched that duet. Had to, had to. And rewound it. Wow, wow, wow. Wow. I could talk about the dance sequences in this movie

for the next, I don't know, six hours? Well, you know what? Before we do that, we have a very special guest tonight. Oh my gosh, it took me a while to even figure out how to introduce him because he is so prolific. He is a comedian, he is an actor, he's a podcaster. You might have heard his podcast Off Menu or Perfect Sounds. You might have read his best-selling book, Classic Scrapes. You might have seen him on Taskmaster. He's got a brand new special on HBO called Heckler's Welcome. Please welcome James Acaster. Welcome.

Have a seat. There you are. Am I here? Am I in the right place? So happy to have you. And I apologize that we made you watch this film. No, it was good. It was nice to come to LA and watch that.

I picture you just in a hotel, crushing two hours of this, which probably took you like more like four because of pausing like me. I had little pauses and also during it, I realized I remembered that Corey Feldman had done an album that came out in 2016 called Angelic to the Core, which is kind of like the music equivalent of this film.

And I was like, I haven't actually heard that album. So I listened to that album after I watched this movie, which is over an hour long and 22 tracks. Wow. People are doing the 22 track album. I own it. It's a double LP. It's a double LP. Fred Durst is on it at one point. So is that his voice at the end in the duet?

I don't think that is. Yeah, actually, I wouldn't put it past him doing both of those voices at the end of the duet. Both of those are Corey Feldman. I definitely think it was his voice because I think he- He sounded great. Hey, look, he brought it. It's changed.

It's changed in time. I'll say this much. I just want to understand where we're all at with the Quarries. Because for some people, the Quarries were a very big thing. I remember them from The Lost Boys. But more for me, it was this movie called License to Drive. Easy, right? These are cool.

These are cool guys. I didn't find them to be funny nor cool in this movie, but I didn't know if you all had any... No, it's such a great question. Like, let's start by locating ourselves in terms of the quarries. Um, my quarry contextualization is... What I was actually... I really had to confront this,

I thought the queries were hot growing up, but I was like, wow, the queries can get at both of them. And I watched this and I was so stunned by what I was seeing. And, because I agree with you, neither cool nor interesting nor charming nor charming, nor hot. Like, and that was so sad. It was like something had died.

Oh, wow. There is your innocence. I think it was more Corey Haim, but even Corey Feldman, I was like, yeah, I'm about it. And then I saw this, and I was like, wow, he's unpleasant. I was like, wow, he's unpleasant. He's an unpleasant young man. But very understated. Subtle work.

I mean, I would argue on some level, bold choice for two, like, heartthrob boys to be, to go from lost boys, horror film, fun but funny, right? Then license to drive funny, you know? And then- Well, Corey Feldman's done standby at this point, like, you know. And then to team up and do a dramatic body switch movie

about old people? You're calling it a body switch movie though. It's not. It's not. It's not, cause I only think there's one switch. The movie wants us to believe there's two switches. Right. And that is not the case.

And in your description, you implied that everyone switched. Well... You said there were four switches. It's not. There's just not, Paul. It's only two switches. Paul, there's not... There's one switch.

Paul, admit you're wrong, Paul! Well, I would argue. I would argue. There's not Paul. Okay. Wow, you see? Thought James would get my back. Well, I would argue, I would argue. There's not Paul. Okay, wow, you see. Thought James would get my back. Well, I think that one is a dormant body switch.

Uh... June, June. June just... A dormant body... June just did a spit take. What does that mean? This has been a physical weekend for you. Last night, last night you thought you were being attacked by a clip. Whoo!

I thought a dormant body switch because, uh, the old... You think Piper Laurie, you think, you think Lainey was in Piper Laurie, but at the end, Corey Feldman says, I was just kidding about all that. It's a full-blown rug pull. Just like, ha-ha, zoink! No, no, no, because Piper Laurie at the end is like, I'm listening to the cool music, and I'm dancing around,

shaking my ass. And then why is he saying he made it up? No, he made what he made up... That's even crazier. I think he made up that there was, like... That they were gonna die. Yes. To me, it felt like the movie wanted to be...

Fair play. The movie almost had a Richard Curtis about time, like very sweet story inside of it in that I was like, oh, this is about Jason Robards realizing he can't live forever and be young. He has to accept his own death. And that living as a young Corey Feldman and falling in love with the woman that he, you know, assuming that Piper Laurie, like Paul is saying,

would be, you know, present, and that that would be the love, and then that would lead to him accepting his mortality and dying. And wouldn't that be sweet and heartfelt the way it is in a truly shattering, beautiful movie about time? This is not that even a little bit.

No. And yet there are some moments, I will admit, the scene where Corey Feldman is talking Joel off a ledge because he's about to kill someone. Whoa. That's a scene that happens. In that scene, though, he delivers a monologue to him from an old man's perspective that I thought was quite moving.

Oh, yeah. When he talks to his parents, Alex Rocco... Okay. ...and Victoria Jackson... I've done some math on this. Yes, please. Okay. So Alex Rocco is the father.

He is born in 1936. Right. Okay. We see him in this movie only wearing a bathrobe and housing Oreos. Just, just polishing off Oreos. So that makes Alex Rocko at the time of this movie 53 years old. A totally normal and cool age. Wow!

Prime of his life. Which might help you place where I am on the Cory's meter. Then we have Victoria Jackson. She's born in 1959. So at the time of this movie, she's 30. So that's a 53-year-old married to a 30-year-old. But here's where it gets concerning. Cory was born in 1971.

He's 18. So that means that Victoria Jackson gave birth at 12 when Alex Rocco was 41. So Alex Rocco is a 41-year-old man who impregnated. I don't know if they were together, but I would say maybe they were dating at 11 and then they had a baby at 12. I'd say that that goes a long way to explaining the vibe at home.

The dynamic between the three of them now makes perfect sense. And although I was completely behind Corey Feldman when he gave them a telling off, I now think you should be more sympathetic to what they've been through. In the first scene where the parents appear, Corey Feldman, it's the post-accident scene where Corey Feldman is waking up and seemingly has amnesia. What is really the case is that he's waking up with Jason Robards inside of his body. And when it's, and you see his point of view and it's Alex Rocco and it's Victoria Jackson, I was like, oh, Victoria Jackson is playing his sister. Me too.

And then I was like, uh-oh, no, this can't be it. This can't be what we're doing. This seems nuts. And Alex Rocko is like full blown Alex Rocko. Yeah. I was about to say elderly man, but I know he's too old. Hang on, man. Can you see me now?

Be cool, bro. Corey Feldman's mom. You just shocked me when you said Alex Rocko is 53 in this movie. That rocked me. I understand. I don't know if I can recover from that information. Yeah, the crazy thing, I want to talk about her rollers, her hair rollers, for roughly

the next 20 minutes. They're in all the time. And I thought, okay, and it's a choice you see a lot in movies that are made around the time. Okay. But they're in so much in that all hours of the day. Like, there's several times where they're in, yeah, like that's breakfast, okay. But then there are times where I know there's a night scene where she's got them in and I'm like, wow,

what, how tight are these curls gonna be? They are- We never see, do we? We see once, and it's at the end. And actually I was like, oh wow, that's character growth. Cause by the end, she's able, cause in a lot of movies you guys were able to understand women and their journeys by their hair.

You know, as soon as it gets looser and you know, that's great. It's a great way to understand women. But we do, she has it down at one point, and it's rather relaxed, but it's very short. So, wow, those curlers are doing so much. In this picture that we're looking at right now, I feel like somehow Alex Rocco and Corey Feldman

are closer in age than either are to Victoria Jackson. I also what I pulled this picture because of the tower of spam that is on the stove. Oh, wow. There is at a minimum, I'm counting, at least eight to 10 cans of spam in a, yeah, in a pyramid formation. I don't know what's going on in this house. I honestly, and I, how could you?

Next to the fire extinguisher. You know if a fire extinguisher is that close at hand, there have been fires. Oh, well, you know what happens right after he walks out is, yeah, she lights the whole thing on fire. That's right. Oh, well, you know what happens right after he walks out is... Oh, yes! Yeah, she lights the whole thing on fire. That's right. I guess the thing that I'm so confused about is, for all intents and purposes, this is

a teen movie. Is it? Well, that's the question. This is my real question, is what is this movie? Well, that's it. Who is it about? Who are we rooting for? Who is the protagonist?

Who is the antagonist? I think it has to be, I think the answer has to be, this is a Jason Robards film. Because if you, because he's somebody who wants to escape death, even though that's not really clearly defined. But sort of, that is what he's trying to set up. Right. He wants to be able to be with his love forever. But yet, the way they introduce him and his love is confusing

because when he's together I'm like oh he's the demented old man and Piper Laurie and Harry Dean Stanton are like... What are they up to? Okay so did anybody else think so I saw that scene I actually watched it twice because I had to rewind it and I thought okay they're having an affair. Clearly. Yes, okay. She kisses them on the lips. Absolutely.

Not only does she kiss the energy between them, aside from what they're doing in that scene, and yes, they kiss for a little while on the lips. It's a lingering mouth kiss. So here's what I think is going on, is I think that they are mirroring both relationships between young and old. So I think that Harry Dean Stanton and Jason Robards are stand-ins for Joel and Bobby.

There's a love triangle. You think Harry Dean Stanton is Joel? Joel's a rapist and a psychopath. Not that he's Joel, I'm just saying, I think there is a... They're constantly mirroring dialogue, mirroring framing, mirroring blocking. They're constantly mirroring young to old. So that's why I thought that was there. But do you think she is having an affair with him?

Yes. Yes? Yeah. James, do you think that she's having an affair? I don't know, man. You guys speak really fast and there's like... There's like no gaps. Hurry up, James! James! Jump in, James!

Do you think they've had an affair, James? Yes or no? Go, James! Go! And, Ancaster, go! I appreciate you asking me a question, but I've... I'll become an audience member at this point. The whole time I watched the movie, I thought, oh, it's going to actually be really interesting to see Corey Feldman realize that Gina, Gina is having an affair. Yes, yes, great, never happens.

Never happens, never see it. Never see it. But he's described, but who is Ike to them? His best friend. He's described as a dependent, and I think that's a joke, but he's just a friend? He's his best, he's Jason Robards' best friend is what he says at some point.

Well, he's a lot younger than him. Sure, sure. Oh, listen, I agree. So much so that I thought Jason Robards was Gina's father. Yes, I would have believed it. Yeah, my dad's so crazy. And maybe what was happening was

he was so committed to living forever that he wasn't living at all. Yeah, maybe. It felt like at times that they'd let a different person direct each scene. And they weren't allowed to watch what's been done so far. So you think the movie is constructed like an exquisite corpse writing piece?

Yes. Well, there are these moments because in the beginning of the movie, I think the other thing that I'm missing in a, I mean it's, is it a body swap? Again, I don't know how to, a body swap movie. It's a body swap movie for Robards and Corey Feldman. Well just Robards, because I guess Jason Robards. Where's Corey Feldman? He's in Dreamworld. He's in just Limbo? He's in the toilet paper house. And by the way, I kept thinking...

And I did toilet paper house. I kept thinking eventually we'll catch up to the period where someone TPs the house. That would be the final scene, and Robards would die. Or someone starts moving out of it. I just thought that there is a lot of Twin Peaks elements in this whole movie that I was like, ooh, this is kind of interesting. Like, it that there was a lot of Twin Peaks elements in this whole movie that I was like,

ooh, this is kind of interesting. It was an interesting way. Piper Laurie alone. Yeah, I bet that was in the four hour cut. We'll never see it. But this idea of like Jason Robards, like I think a lot of times in a body switch movie, it's like, I'm the dad, I have no time for my son.

Then I switch with my son, I realize, oh, I need to be a better dad. Jason Robards is actually a multifaceted character. He's angry at kids, but he's also very spiritual, but he also eats well. And he has a sense about himself. Like, I can't quite get what he's doing. And then when he does the Michael Jackson dancing,

I'm like, well, that's definitely not Jason Robards. But in that point in the movie, Corey Feldman's body is being controlled by Jason Robards. But in that point in the movie, Corey Feldman's body is being controlled by Jason Robards. That's what I'm saying. So the Michael Jackson stuff makes just no sense. Well, that's what I'm saying. It's gotta be coming from Corey Feldman. But I don't also feel like Corey Feldman

in the entire movie is like, ah, these damn kids. What I'm looking for is a moment where they're like, this is how you act as a kid. But he has no issue, he seems to fit in immediately. He says to him, go watch the home videos, and you see him put a couple of cassettes in, but you never see the videos themselves.

Like I would have loved, there's so many montages, why not a training montage about how you train an old man to act like an 80s teen? They give me that all day every day. I guess he just watched the one Michael Jackson video a lot. Like seriously. I laughed so hard. There was also a video in this shot where he's getting the videos and putting them in,

there's a video on top of the TV labeled Aunt Irma's visit. Just a whole VHS devoted to her time there. I had a video of my great grandma's birthday, but I guess a visit is not really video camera worthy. I don't think you... But it was at a time... I appreciated the detail because I was like, oh, this was back when if you had a VHS recorder, everything was worthy of filming. Yes. Yeah. I had a lot of tapes, a lot of... Me too. I had a lot of tapes a lot of yeah a lot of tips but this again the issue of it is is like It's not an old man being in a young boy's body because he never even seems to enjoy Hey, I'm young. I'm so sorry to disagree with you Paul But he does look himself in the mirror and say at least he's got a good body

Which to me is Corey Feldman improvise. What? That was, no, that was refreshing. It's not, it's not often you see someone self pet theirself. There's not enough self petting goes on. I was actually getting a little bit upset with Jason Robards as the film went on because it didn't, it seemed like he was falling in love

with Lainey who's Lainey. Lainey who's not Gina, Lainey who's Lainey. It is only that, that it is a love story between an old man and a teenage girl. Yes. Who he's just convinced is his girlfriend. But if you took that, if you took that and put that in the real world, that would be frightening. And I'm a teenage girl. Yes. Who he's just convinced is his girlfriend? But is she... Or his wife, rather?

If you took that and put that in the real world, that would be frightening. Like, you're my wife. You are my wife. And it's like, no, I'm not. I'm just somebody else. And he does it until she's like, yeah, I guess I am your wife. She doesn't even believe it. To be fair, she is frightened when he says that.

You're right. And then in the next scene, she's not. And she's even believe it. To be fair, she is frightened, when he says that. You're right. And then in the next scene, she's not, and she's fine with it. She is frightened for one scene. She basically goes like, you're not gonna stop calling me your wife, so I'll go with it. And I think that that's a good way of just being. She's just yes anding him.

Her other option is the most fucked character I've ever seen in a film. So like, it's either the guy says, you're my wife, or the guy has got a gun. Oh my god. Well, why is that guy so crazy? Joel? Yeah.

I thought for so long that Joel was the villain of the movie. Me too. And in fact, he's not. He's their best friend. Even though they dress, the Koreys dress so much more like the bad guys, Dumas and those guys, than they do Joel in his blue suede fringe coat. Joel looks like the handsome bully asshole

who shows up with a gun. Why is he best friends with the Koreys? I don't know. I couldn't understand the hierarchy of this high school. I wrote that down multiple times. What is this school's hierarchy? Here's the problem. The other Cory should have been Joel,

because it's like my best friend. But Cory Haim is kind of just on the side. He has nothing to do. This is what I think happened. I think Cory Haim broke his leg. And Cory Feldman was like, hey, my buddy needs a job. Can he just like hang out on set and be around? Because his character can't be in the script.

Nothing he does has any effect whatsoever. If the movie ended and Corey Haim was revealed to be a ghost or a Tyler Durden, I genuinely was like, maybe he's a Tyler Durden here. I don't know. There's only been one Cory the entire time. You're right, though. It's an odd, the movie poster, it's the two of them, and Laney, it's, you know, you're like, this is it.

This is the bunny, but it's Joel. Joel is, because even in the end, the climactic moment is saving Joel from a life of despair. But we don't like Joel. I don't think we like Joel. Joel's scary to me. Joel sucks. If I met the actor who plays Joel now, I would kill him. Ha ha ha!

And you would be justified! You would be... We would all back you up and be like... We would all provide an alibi. Yeah. The fact that Joel... The fact that Lainey's mother provide an alibi. The fact that Lainey's mother, and I gotta get into Lainey's mother, but... Gotta get into Lainey's mother. Holy shit.

Holy, and Ron. Ron. Oh, we have to talk about Ron. Ron seemingly is just dating Lainey's mom and tranks... Like, she... Why don't you help me with this? He says, handing her a roofied glass of wine. Ron is a problem.

I thought it was apple juice, but still. But here's the thing. Why are they drinking her? I know why we don't want her to go to sleep. I think so that she won't run away, like, get out of that. That's crazy. Oh, yeah? You think? It was the 80s.

So at the ready, that's what's so disturbing. It's like, get it, mix it up. And it is. She had it, though, as if she had a loose capsule. Yeah. A loose capsule that she could open and do this like she's a spy. It's not the first time this has happened.

This is reassuring to hear you all talk about this because I thought, because I've not, I've not spent much time in America. I don't know what your customs are. We didn't know what we're about. How dare you? How dare you? The whole thing was done so casually and so like routinely. I mean, listen, after this...

I assumed you're all roofing the kids when it's time for bed and when there's a boy you don't like, give her this. I imagine after this week and the election you have some questions, you know. The other thing too, and I know that we are focusing on that he that she roofed her own daughter and yeah that's a that's something that we should flag. Got to get her to bed. You got to focus on it a little bit, Paul. Well, this is what I thought. You're speaking it away as if you're about to gloss over it.

Look, and I'm glad that you're calling, I'm not going to gloss. Sure, it's bad, whatever. But it was also the fact that they were giving her wine too. I thought it was obvious. It was a double whammy. It was like, drink some they were giving her wine too. Like, it was a double whammy. It was like, drink some liquor and it's roofie. The thing you are never supposed to do, mix pills and booze? What are you doing?

And yet, they're so upset when they catch a boy in her room. And why was she covered in red? Was that the blood from his face? Yeah, he punched the window in and cut his hand and then went, I know where this is going, her face. I love that he respectfully walks away. You know, you're right. I'm sorry to interrupt you.

Respectfully walks away, then immediately frantically climbs the lattice and then shatters the window and starts screaming, wake up! Wake up! But also- I think at that point you could have just run past them. shatters the window and starts screaming, wake up, wake up! But also- I think at that point you could have just run past them. Like you've caused such a commotion. I will also argue as somebody who grew up in a suburban neighborhood,

the amount of glass that they, at least by sound design, let you know, it's like he's banging on that window and there's no sound. It's like he's on the outside of an airplane, it's like, kunk, kunk, kunk, kunk. And it's silent inside her room. Like I was surprised. It's like, she should be able to hear him okay.

I think her mom's the type of person who would have installed soundproof glass into her daughter's window so no one can hear whatever the fuck is going on there on a weekly basis. You're right. Now it all makes sense. And I am actually wondering if one of the reasons why Lainey couldn't body switch with Gina

is because of the amount of tranquilizers. Something just didn't. Just being suppressed by Valium. Like her spirit is like, was floating down and then was like, I can't get in this, she's drunk to fuck. Oh, she's not here. This girl's out cold.

Just kind of can only lift up her arm. I'm curious, has anyone in this audience ever scaled a lattice or a ladder in order to get into someone's room? No, right? Whoa. Yeah, not a lattice, but I've had, it was my own house, so I don't know if that matters, but I've had to scale.

Yeah, I've had to scale. Where did you scale? This movie, yeah. I scaled, I scaled my house in Long Island, in Rockville Center. Which side? The- Oh, someone's suspicious?

I just want to see how high you went up. Right by my bedroom. Wow. Only, no, no, no, but only onto the roof, like the flat roof that was right above the porch. Wow, okay. Wow, it's impressive. Thank you.

Even though I don't know that house and I don't know your relationship or anything, that story made more sense than the movie we watched. That's with you every step of the way I can picture that house. Yeah, there was a beginning, there was a middle, the characters were clear and location. There is this thing with the movie,

which is the dream world, there is a lot of stuff going on here, which makes me also feel like, it may be the script is a little bit tighter and then some improv is taking it off track a little bit. Cause there are, there isn't a moment in there where Corey Haim is like, what am I doing here? Who am I?

I'm a good looking guy, ladies like me. I'm like, what's happening now? Not only that, but that's the scene where he's alone in the car waiting for Joel to come out with the gun. It keeps fading to black, then fading back in for another round of Corey Haim improv. That is not, he's like, I went to the dance, nobody wants to dance with me, ba-ba-beep-boop-boop.

And then it's like, Joel comes out and he's like, I refilled the flask, Joel, my guy, you gotta slow down. And he's got a gun and Corey Haim's like, oh, come on, man, be cool. They must've let him run for a while. Big time. I think the, yeah, the in and out thing is like, they were clearly like behind the camera going,

just let him go. It's gold, baby. Well, that's how the opening of the movie is like that, because they're having a sleepover, a little slumber party. I couldn't make heads or tails of this. The opening, I should just play you the opening scene because it is, it really is, no,

the audience are vulgar. Yes, yes. Hey, keep talking. We'll show the whole movie, assholes. The doors are locked. It doesn't matter. Also refreshing to have a film that's got like two opening credit sequences.

Right. Well, that's Jason Robards is singing in front of an audience. That's the second one. That's the second one. The first one is the coreys in their room. That's the second one. That's the second one. The first one is the Chorys in their room seemingly hating each other. Right. And then there's Robards, which is a name

I've just learned today by the way. Okay. And I've heard it a billion times now. But that's the second one, right? Well yeah, you know what, I don't even have that opening one. I have the Jason Robards singing because this is again an odd choice. It's like, oh oh this is our main

character I guess like we've just seen the Cory's now we watch him and he's not singing right so it's this is dreams this is in the dream space okay oh and Jason Robards are sharing this dream this is the first I didn't know that okay which is no I'm so sorry I'm a scholar of this movie am I wrong no you're This is the first instance of dreamspace. Which is a little weird. I'm so sorry, I'm a scholar of this movie. Am I wrong? No, you're right. You don't think so?

This is definitely a dream. Just Robards? Hang on, Tim says Just Robards. No, no, no, Tim. Tim. No, I don't believe Tim in this one instance. Tim shot Tim. Because in this one instance.

Because Corey Feldman in this next scene says I had a dream of an old man. Yeah, him. It's... You missed it. He says it's the guy he sees on the way to school. Eat shit, Tim. Fucking idiot. Eat shit, Tim, you idiot. I'm trying to fit in.

Yeah! James, get him. Eat a bunch of shit, Tim. Out of your own ass. Get him, James. Internationally humbled. Hope you're hungry, Tim. Because you're eating a bag of shit. Here's something I found troubling though about the logic. If Corey Feldman, Corey Feldman did dream, I won't say if, he did have this dream that we're seeing right now. It seems though that everything got thwarted by happenstance with the bike.

It just, if they hadn't come up with the idea of the bike, it would have been a disaster. have this dream that we're seeing right now. It seems though that everything got thwarted by happenstance with the bike. It just, if they hadn't collided. What would have happened? What would have happened? Would they have, where would their bodies have gone? Someone in the audience was like, right. Yes, June, I thought the same thing.

Also, because, but that's what's weird is Corey Feldman was dreaming this way before that collision. Yes, and because they always cut through his house, so they have this back and forth every day when they're cutting through the yard and having that angry back and forth. So you think it's just like he happens to be dreaming about him?

Yes, he says, I dreamt about that guy. He literally says, it's Jason Roe. I know, I know, I dreamt about that guy. He literally says, it's Jason Robles. I know, I know. But my point is that it felt, or that the movie wanted us to feel, that they were always going to switch bodies. Oh, I see. Oh, I don't know. I don't know if I agree with you there, Jim.

I guess you're getting pretty comfortable up here. I'm a bit there. I would say I'm a bit there. Uh-oh. I think you bit there. Uh-oh. I think you're right. I think they have a connection. And that's why the body switch swap was able to happen so efficiently. Because I think they were already connected in the dream world.

I think what we needed was one line where they say, hey, come on, don't be so hard on the kids. He's like you when you were a kid. Like, give me something. This movie needed rules. This movie needed two scenes of exposition. And by the way, they had plenty of time. Oh.

Two hours. Isn't that all the time in the world? And instead it was just montages. Instead it was replaced by music montages. And let me be clear, the music is dynamite. I love it. Yeah, yeah. The soundtrack, the music is dynamite. I love it. Yeah, yeah. The soundtrack, the music is, it's REM.

I'm like, I'm a real sucker for Van Morrison's Into the Mystic. I was singing it when it came on. You play that song for me and it is instant emotion. That went a long way to investing me in this movie. But I will also say it's a weird era of 1989 and these kids are like, rap is dead. We listen to old 60s music.

And it's like, doesn't feel, look, I like this music, it was great, but they're singing like du-wop by like a trash can fire. And then at one point, and then they just cut away from that real quick. Don't tell St. Clair. But there is like, it is odd that they, their choice, but yet they're also dancing like Michael Jackson. Music is great.

Great soundtracks. Let me tell you this is wonderful. I did want to say one thing which is. Get him, June. Get him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just wait. Wait a second.

Okay. Just, you'll find another moment to jump in. Not now. I did want to say one thing about their collision because it seemed to me that that collision, which took place, no, Laney's on the bicycle and Corey Feldman is running. It seemed to me that they had about 15 to 20 feet

to avoid that collision. They must have seen each other. They must have seen each other. They were the only people running in a direct path in someone's backyard. It was not a blind turn. It was straight, I'm running toward you, I'm on a bicycle, riding to you, and now we collide.

Shouldn't, like, you know, the movie logic should have included someone dying or whatever, but what in fact happens is the old people disappear? They just evaporate into the dream space? And it's, well, first of all, James is, I don't wanna, I was like. Please shut up, James. I don't know what's going on, man. For a while, I couldn't get a word in,

and then I started being more assertive when I got the hand, and I don't know what to do. I know. Back home, it's not like this. Yeah, you're not home anymore, James. I don't know. It wasn't the first time for the listener that I got the hand. I got it earlier on, and I thought, that's not for me, and it was.

But... It was, yeah. It wasn't the first time for the listener that I got the hand. I got it earlier on and I thought, that's not for me. And it was. It was. Yeah. Listen, this is Trump's America, baby. Yeah. What I couldn't figure out is in the dream state, when, okay, when Jason Robards and Bobby, right Bobby? Corey Feldman are in the yard talking. Laney and Gina are in the house packing up, right?

We keep cutting to them in the house packing up, but what world are they in together? That's the prank world. They in the dream show? That's the prank world. No. Prank world? No. What's the prank world. They in the dream show? That's the prank world. Prank world? No. Prank world.

What's the prank world? Well, I think that Corey Feldman is doing the big prank of you're gonna lose her, right? So he's creating that prank world of they're packing, they're leaving, but that's never actually part of it. So he's manifesting that inside world, like Matrix style. I agree because I don't think any of that is real,

obviously. And that's why he doesn't have pants on with the tuxedo. He's already showing them, I'm a prankster. I believe, I sincerely believe, Corey Feldman for some reason was allowed to choose all of his own wardrobe. He doesn't even go to wardrobe. He just came.

One of my favorite things though about teenagers in the 80s and movies is that so many of them are dressed in like business casual. Like there's so many like 11th graders who are in business suits. And it's just so delightful to see. Some of us wore suits to school. Listen, my sister for a, and I thought she was so cool, my older sister wore in high school lace, lace, turtlenecks and big brooches and giant, giant blazers over it and her hair

twisted back. I mean she was dressed like an elderly woman. Yeah. And I was like awesome. I used to bring a briefcase to school because I thought it was cool. Incredible. Why not? I'm just trying to imagine though, from Lainey's point of view, from Lainey's point of view, Corey Feldman has told her like, hey, remember those old people? Like, they're not there anymore.

And they don't have a dog. No, and they're not there anymore. And they don't have a dog. No, and they're gone. And if I'm Laney, I'm like, wow, you've definitely killed them. And this is your confession and I'm next. You know, and she takes the news in stride, really. That's all. James. It's the news in stride, really. That's all. James?

I... Yes, this is now your time. James, the show is yours. The pressure now. What do you want to say now? Look, I agree with everything June said. Good. Good.

No, I think you're right, especially because he's saying to her, you know, we're married already, and all this stuff, and they're not there, especially because he's saying to her, you know, we're married already and all this stuff and they're not there and all that's going on. But I think because she's going from Joel to him, this scene, like all of us, we're basically looking for someone who's better than our ex. Yeah. Just even slightly.

Yes. The bar is so low with Joel. Yeah. So she's like, oh cool, he's not like an absolute psychopath. My parents want to induct him to a cult. Yes. I also was obsessed with the dance team at this high school and what they were. I never got the sense that they were getting ready for an event, you know, or some sort

of competitive. Maybe it's in the four hour cut, but I would have loved to see what they were rehearsing turn into a performance. Yeah, and like, is it a dance team? Um, are they cheerleaders? And then Lainey's solo too. She's doing a solo to a modernized version of Dream a Little Dream that turns into the duet that this still is from. This movie has a dance duet. This movie has a minimum of five top hats.

Yes. There's two in this scene, there's two in the end, and I believe Corey Feldman is rocking another top hat early on in the movie as well. Like, top hats... I heard he rented them his hat collection. He made production pay for his hats. No, but the dance team is doing something...

Again, it's setting up something. We're gonna see it. They're all there. They're doing their thing. No, we the dance team is doing something, again, it's setting up something, we're gonna see it, they're all there, they're doing their thing. No, we're not, we only see, I mean, guess. Yeah, and the group number they're rehearsing is pretty simple. Even the dance. It's turned. Yeah, wow.

Wow, wow, wow. All right. Sorry, it is. June has already internalized the whole dance. I'm ready to do it now. Use some dance moves. You want? You want. You want it? Who's Joel's friend in the first,

the first time we see them dancing, and Joel's looking from the wing. At that point, we don't really know. It's our first introduction to Joel. Right, and we already know that Joel's a psycho, and his friend's like, hey man, why are we waiting for the two Koreys? I'm bored.

And he's like, wait, they'll be here. It's like, what were they going to go wait outside the jail? Like, that was a weird meeting point. And it didn't seem like they were going anywhere or doing anything. Very confusing. But the friend, it was the only person in the film I related to. Well, he's the only... He's like, why the fuck are we watching this? What are we doing?

He pops up every now and again and he always seems like a pretty reasonable guy. The nicest guy. Everyone is going crazy and losing their minds and not reacting in a way that you would ever react to something and he's the only one there going, everyone else knows this is nuts, right? I just want to play flag football. Yeah. He's there at the gun thing. Yeah.

Oh yeah. Even when the speech is going on, he's there with the gun thing. Yeah. Even when the speech is going on, he's like, not the time, Corey. There's so much happening here. Why are you giving a speech like you're an old man? We need to nip this in the bud. I also love that, like, the idea that ending is, hey, if an old man could talk you out of shooting a person,

it's like, shouldn't be that hard of a, like a ledge to jump off of. Yeah, yeah, don't kill the high school bully for no apparent reason. The bully doesn't do, like, a couple punches. He stole some food off his plate earlier in the film, when he was on his way to see his buddies. Right, yeah, so.

And also Joel is not rapsatite. Joel, frequently in the film, goes from talking to someone going, yeah, you're my best friend, to never say that to me again! Why is it? Regularly. Regularly. You're right, you're right.

Non-stop, he's like, and that's why we're all friends, I will gut you in your fucking swipe! So there's no point that I don't think Joel would have shot that guy. In fact, I think it's very unrealistic that he got talked out of it. They're lucky that all of them walked away from that in that alley.

By the way, I thought... This movie was going in such a direction that I literally thought, Joel is gonna turn now and shoot Cory. Yes. I was rooting for him. Me too. And I would have been like, oh, what a tragic ending.

And then Jason Robards would have lived and been like, oh, life is precious. And I would have been like, yeah, that's a good movie. And then he doesn't shoot Corey, but then he walks right up to that Dumas's face with the gun. Dumas. And then empties the bullet. That scene, that scene when it all ends

and Corey's like, I'm gonna go over there and drink a beer and finally Joel lowers the gun or whatever and they all go to the back and they're talking and they're drinking beers. Dumas stays on his knees in front of the headlights of the headlights of the car like rocked. He crosses himself.

He is like, his life is changed. I think what was hard though is like, again at the high school hierarchy being so fluid, you know, I didn't, I thought Joel was a popular rich kid. He seemed like the cock of the walk kind of guy. Absolutely. The jacket says it all. But I don't, but I didn't understand why Dumas,

why he was a target for Dumas. I don't either. Well, I think Dumas is just a straight up bully, right? I mean. But Joel seems like he would be the bully. The guys like Joel are protected in the order that we all subscribe to. Like a prison system, like he's handsome. It was really confusing.

Again, I don't know what the... I only really know your hierarchy from Saved by the Bell. Sure, right. Sure, no, that's it. I know that there's like jocks and the cool kids and the geeks and stuff, but like in England, the really tough kid wouldn't be beating up the popular kid. Like, that's my read of Joel. Yeah.

Because he's like Zach Morris. Yes, absolutely. And now AC Slater's bullying him for some reason. It's like, you guys are meant to be friends. You're meant to be both Duncan Screech. Yes. Well, I... It made no sense to me that Joel...

May he rest in peace. It made no... I'm sorry to bring him up. I know I'm... to me that Joel's crew included the Cory's. Like, because he and Cory Feldman seemed to be competing over the same girl, so there's some way that the fact that they were best friends, they were too close. Then why is Dumas even here? And Joel and Lainey don't seem to have a great relationship on the outside either.

Like, when we look at these characters across the board, we have Lainey. Her mother is tranking her, is roofing her. We have Corey Haim, whose mom ran over him with a car. Her mom. We have. I forgot that. Yeah.

That's the reason he's, I've only just put that together. Yeah. That's why he's got the limp and the cane that he walks around like Charlie Chaplin. It's spinning. It's doing a lot. Doesn't seem like it's supporting the leg, even though he really did have a broken leg. And then you have Feldman, whose parents... He's the son of a 13-year-old bride.

I have a theory about that. you know, he's the son of a 13 year old bride. I have a theory about that. I think that before this film there was another body swap. And the dad's age appropriate wife body swapped with a child. Alright, now I'm in, now I'm... And he had to continue the relationship with the woman he loved, knowing that her body was no longer what society would deem acceptable. By the way, at one point, on your flight back, I encourage you to watch a David Duchovny film

that we did here on the show called The Secret, where his wife and daughter... Don't even explain it, just watch it. Okay, I'll just watch it. You guys have been so generous to me with my viewing so far. I'll take more recommendations from you. What else should I watch for the 13-hour flight home guys? By the way, justice for Shelley. Yes. Justice for Shelley.

You know, she really got the short end of the stick. Who's Shelley? She's, oh. Who's Shelley? How dare you? Who's Shelley? Who's Shelley? Yeah Who's Shelly? Yeah!

You made us do this, asshole. This is exactly the problem. You don't even recognize that Shelly is a true hero. That's the shirt. Who's Shelly and who's Shelly? How dare you question any of this? I don't know! Shelly is Corey Feldman's girlfriend. Like they are established in a relationship.

She does all of his homework. She is his girlfriend. They are a couple and they are together. Oh, they're in love. She's in love with him rather, which she is. And she does all this homework. She's very invested. I was confused about Shelly.

How? Because she pops in very intermittently as well. It's like, oh, I can't believe it. I don't even know what she's seen that she can't believe and then she storms off. We don't get enough time with Shelly to understand. Well, Shelly Laney and the girl who's dressed like an Andrews sister?

Yes. I couldn't make heads or tails of that. But I was like, all right, I'm going with it. But like, they seem to be a crew. But again, this movie exists in a feast or famine kind of scenario. It's either everybody all at once cacophonously in a scene together,

or it's just two people. And that's it. It's like, it really careens between way too many people and no people. I felt like I it really, it careens between way too many people and no people. I felt like I counted 12 people in the first 15 minutes and I was like, any one of these could be the main character and I don't know where to invest my emotions. And then I started to find out. That's why you had to let go of Shelly so quickly.

You guys keep on saying, Shelly, isn't it Cherry? Oh, okay. Don't you feel stupid? My research says cherry. Get him, Tim. That's embarrassing. How many people have you said that to? I said it to Shelly. During the week in cafes and restaurants.

Tim, am I right or wrong? Is it cherry or Shelly? Eat a bag of shit. Thank you. And put some more shit on top of it. And eat that shit as well. Let me go... Am I fitting in? Is that how we talk to each other here?

You're on fire, James. Let's go into the audience. Let's talk to them a little bit. See what they have. I want to see where you're all at. Because I have a feeling you'll unpack some things that we didn't even get to. to them a little bit. See what they have. I want to see where you're all at because I have a feeling you'll unpack some things that we didn't even get to. All right, hi.

How are you? What's your name? Good. Jane. Okay. What's your question? I just wanted to point out that Laney's mom says something truly disturbing that nobody's mentioned, which is when Laney says, Joel hit me, the mom says, what did you do to provoke him?

Or why did you provoke him like that? Very drop dead Fred mom, yeah. Who, I want to be clear, you support. Who you think is a good mother. Scathing indictment team sanity. Well, I think that she is protecting her daughter. Okay. I think I have a different opinion about this woman. Okay.

Yeah, I mean, she does, she's a, she is not a good role model for her daughter. Look at him twisting. Yeah, he's trying to get out of this. Look at him twisting. No, Paul, I don't think we're ready to move on to another question. I think that was a very valid point that was raised. Well, yeah, what did she do to provoke him? Classic team sanity.

She may or may not have body swapped with an old woman and then not dance with the prom or whatever the fuck that dance was. Here's a question. After the prom, when Lainey and Bobby go to that dance hall, was that a dream or was that real? That's like a Twin Peaks dance hall. For sure seems, yes, dreamscape-y, but who honestly knows? I could also see them going to... No, no, because they're dancing with only old people. Yeah, but I could see them...

But I could see him knowing exactly where to go for older people dancing. Friday night at the VFW, they play big band music and you can dance with, you know, I could see that. Because everybody, you know... Because if it were a dream sequence, then they would have had to have both been asleep. Well, one of them.

I agree. No, one of them. I agree. No, no, because Lainey can be in the dream world because of the prankster. Lainey's already in the- Stop bringing up the prankster. The prankster can manipulate the dream world. By the way, I completely missed the prankster storyline.

Every time you bring it up. Yeah, it is there, but it's only there in the one moment where he says, I made that up. This was all a prank. It's all that. He never says prank. Did you go back and watch it with that in mind? I mean, I recontextualized the entire film in that last moment of the film. But isn't it what we don't,

and what we're uninterested in interrogating here so far is that Corey Feldman's character wants to stay in the dreamscape. He wants to be dead. Yeah. Well, full stop. He's just in the dream world where things are better than his life, because he doesn't like his parents,

he doesn't like all of that. He doesn't like his pants. But then we don't really see. Freddy Krueger liked the dream world too. Bitch. That's a Freddy Krueger quote. What's your name, sir? My name is Dan.

Okay, what's your question? So, just keeping on going in on her mom, because she's the absolute worst, not only did she ask what she did to provoke her, but then in the next scene she says, I heard about that fight you got in. Like, completely gaslighting her when Shelley had told her that, what's his name, Joel hit her.

So, just like, even worse. Well, in the first scene, her mother is encouraging her to fuck that, what's his name, Joel hit her. So just like even worse. Well in the first scene, her mother is encouraging her to fuck Joel and she's like, I don't think I want to or I'm ready yet. And she's like, do it. Now Tim, Tim, I'm going to get to you, but you look like you were trying to get my attention. Like, do you feel like you have something

to add to the mom discussion? All right, we'll get to you. No, Tim has written a bunch of slams on James. Yeah. Ready and waiting, Tim. I'm jet-lagged to fuck. They won't even touch me. All right, what's your name?

What's your question? My name is Mike. So we had a bit of a different interpretation of the movie. Oh, I love it. Who is the we? Who's we? OK, great. Two of them.

I didn't know if it was like like, a whole row of people. They seem great, though. So we thought that when they had the collision, that the body switch fully happened for Corey Feldman, but sort of happened for the two women. Okay. And that's why she, like she couldn't remember her locker combination and she was vibing with the old music

and that Jason Robards in Corey Feldman was trying to bring Piper Laurie out of Laney. I think this all is the same. Yes, we agree with you. Because you were saying, so then. But it never happened. Well, I think what he's saying is I was right that there's a...

No, no. I agree. The four-body switch movie. So you want to say, you want to agree with Paul... And that she is dormant. ...that it was a dormant swap? Yeah. It was quasi-dormant.

Is your name Mike? It is. Yeah. Tell me the scene where that is, where Gina is revealed in Lainey's body. Yeah. There's a lot. The lips, the business... Oh, the lip bite. I guess so. And, the business. I just felt like the movie.

I think Harry Dean Stanton says, or someone says, maybe it didn't happen with her all the way because she wasn't as into it or something. Yes. So I think that's meant to make us think what you're saying. And while you are agreeing with me and you are right, I will also say. You said full body swap, Paul. Hold on, this is what I'll say. The moment before the accident, she's like, shut up, you're wrecking it, which made me believe she was more into it than him, because she's fully into it, but yet the movie then says, I guess she wasn't into it enough.

So then, the other question is, so then why at the end are Lainey and Corey Feldman together? Agree. Because they really, they never connected at all. She's never met Corey Feldman. No. She's only met Jason Robards in Cori, no, no. They're, I mean, they're friends from before the movie, but.

Well, right, because they're friends, because they know Joel. But she has been romanced by Jason Robards in Corey Feldman's Michael Jackson body. So then, but Gina, but Gina doesn't really. Eloquently put. But Gina kinda, Gina has the affectations of she's listening to modern music, she's dancing, shaking her butt around.

At the end. At the end, but doesn't have any memory, because she's like, oh, I didn't wanna wake you, you were sleeping so well. So she doesn't even realize that she's been gone. But then... And she can't like, like what? Yeah, no, none of it really. Again, none of it makes sense. And I want to be clear. I do think Paul and Mike and Mike's crew, I do think the movie is trying, is trying to seed those ideas, that it is in fact a, but why wouldn't you just do it?

Why not have it be all four people swap, and it's like, we're young again, uh-oh, but we can't be young again, uh-oh, we have to die. Or, or. Get out of here, stop running the country, die already. Yes, wow. But here's the thing. Stop. Stop it.

Here's the thing though. I think an even better version. I didn't need them to full swap right away. I was okay with a dormant swap, but what I thought was going to happen- A DS? A DS. I was fine with an early DS, but what I thought was gonna happen is that, is that something was gonna unlock Gina in Laney and that was going to be what Jason Robards understood that he didn't understand about his wife in those, you know, 40-eyed years that they

were together. That also didn't happen. Neither couple learned anything new about anybody. And I would hope... Nobody had anything. I would hope that the one thing that Jason Robards would learn when he gets back is to get a bigger bed. Because it was like... Holy shit! They were sharing a twin bed.

But Paul, back in those days in the 80s, I think one of the greatest advancements we've made as a people has been bigger beds. Bigger beds. But you were talking about- I don't think they needed it. I don't think they needed it. Roy Vards and his wife, I don't think spent a lot of time side by side, if you know what

I mean. Yes. So I have heard from, I actually, Paul and I know a couple that won't upgrade into a bigger bed because they believe there's something very intimate and they credit a smaller bed to a long lasting relationship. So I do think there is something to it. Anyone here in a smaller bed relationship? It's just a full size.

Alright, you're in a smaller bed relationship. For me, at this point, I think it's just... Let's talk to him about it. Please, please. How big is that bed? Any questions about the smaller bed relationship? For me, at this point, I think it's just... Let's talk to him about it. I think it's just... Please, please. How big is that bed? Any questions about the smaller bed relationship? And it's by choice?

No, it's not by choice. Yes, it is by choice. I have a full-size bed, and it is quite ample for us. We are not large people, so it is the perfect size for both of us. Wow. Full-size bed. Wow. Real Joel vibes from this guy. He has a full-size, you have a king-size.

All right, so there are... She started to talk for two seconds, couldn't even do the hand. Fucking right in there. It is ample size for us. We are not big people. It's absolutely fine. I thought you were my friend! Gun to Paul's head, Paul's on his knees.

Oh God, oh God, thank you God, oh God. Don't shoot Paul. Now, I will say that you, so you're a two bed relationship, because you have a big bed, you have a small bed, and you can go back and forth. Oh, that's totally different. And that's the dream. Oh, well, let me ask you.

You live in the dream. I have a question. So you don't live together? Not yet. Not yet. So when you do, which bed will you choose? Great question, Jason. Obviously, the king size.

The king size? And you, sir? We'll see. We'll see. Whatever fits in the bedroom. We'll see. It's a king size bed, motherfucker, sir? We'll see, we'll see. Whatever fits in the bedroom. We'll see, it's a king size bed, motherfucker. You know it is. You know it is.

I love it. Let's get rid of the king. Let's keep sleeping in that full size bed. Get out of town. Absolutely not. A testament to how good the relationship is. I've asked Paul if we can get an Alaska, which is... What's that?

An Alaska is, especially, makes asked Paul if we can get an Alaska, which is what's that an Alaska is? Especially mates the biggest bed you can get yeah, it's the size of this state and you can see Russia from it And I I have it on a favorite tab on my computer and I look at it if I think about it I think what life would be like with it I'm all for an Alaska bed. I don't mind an Alaska bed. The problem is the quality of the mattress. Well, that's it. You can fit all the podcast equipment

between the two of you. Never have to leave your bed, Jason just has to visit every now and again. Plenty of room. Sit at the end like a dog. The three of you talk about whatever movie you've just watched. Plenty of room for him, he doesn't even feel awkward there because it's such a big bed.

Yeah, it's the whole size of the room. Unless you can see the Northern Lights. What's your question? I'll lean into you here. My question is, in Corey Feldman's bedroom, there is a The Lost Boys movie poster. And what are the implications of that for this universe? So I have a theory about this, which was? Prank world. I'm glad you brought this up.

My theory is that Corey Feldman has a poster of The Lost Boys in his room because he's a fan of The Lost Boys, so much so that he's modeled his own dressing after one of the poster of the Lost Boys in his room because he's a fan of the Lost Boys, so much so that he's modeled his own dressing after one of the stars of the Lost Boys. So he is dressing like Corey Feldman, but is not Corey Feldman. I believe you, Paul, and I think that, I think what bears it, what bears it out is that

I believe that Corey Feldman would play a character that is a fan of Corey Feldman. Got a good body. Definitely an improvised line. All right, Tim, what do you got over here? Tim, I feel like you got something. You really... The energy off you tonight. Give it up for Tim, everybody. Give it up for Tim. You got a good thing.

All right, Tim. I watched the sequel today. Oh, right, the sequel. Dream a little dream. I am just now finding out that this exists. Should we play the trailer and then hear your question? Yes. Okay, hold on. Tim's hardcore.

Yeah, Tim doesn't fuck around. I regret going in so hard. All right, so this is the sequel to Dream. I haven't even watched this. I figured I would surprise myself with it. Oh, wait, that's the first one. Oh, sorry, the projector moved down. We'll fix that in one second.

Tim just told me to sort the projector. Wow. Wow. I'll fix it. He said James projector. James projector. I just said that I regret it for the first time. That's good.

James Projector. Wow. Fuck it out of your mind. I'm not sorting the project. I'm the guest. None of this is my responsibility. James Projector. None of this is on me. I could shit my pants and walk off

and I've done a great job. Fucking James Projector. Just so you know, when this episode gets released, you will be credited as James Projector. James Projector, holy Christ. Tim, Tim's getting too big for his britches. Tim. Tim.

To not even make a full sentence out of it. You put me in a bad mood for the trailer now, Tim. Okay. Oh God, to not even make a full sentence out of it. You put me in a bad mood for the trailer now, Tim. I might be unnecessarily harsh. Respect our guest, Tim. Respect our guest. Tim is in a full body sweat. That was funny. I do just kind of-

I'm the projector back in your goddamn eyes. And you can watch the trailer that way, Tim. How's that fun? Everyone can stand behind you and watch it projected on the back of your fucking head. James projector, you fucking high. Whole week in this goddamn city, everyone talking to me like a piece of shit.

I don't need it from you as well. Pitching ideas to fucking cokeheads. Now I'm here. I do just want to point out that this movie, Dream a Little Dream 2, was released in... James Projector. That's the t-shirt. That's the t-shirt.

That's the t-shirt. You got it. That's the t-shirt. Pasterby. That's amazing. Project. Dreaming Little Dream 2 was released in 1995. Stared the two Corys. Wait, what was one? What year was one? 1989.

OK, thank you. And it starred the two Corys and Robin Lively from Teen Witch. Here we go. Oh, top that. Cory Feldman. James, James, projector. And Cory Haynes. You got that in the limits.

So he really hit it off in the hit, Dream a Little Dream. Our hilariously reunited and discussed. Oh That's on me that's me that's my bad that's on me that's on me That's on me that's on me. That's on me. Leave all this in. Oh my God. All right, here we go. Corey Feldman. Whoa! Whoa! Joel? Oh, come on. Robin Lively. I'm not into this kind of a thing. In Dream of Little Dream 2.

Oh, come on. Wow, I guess they just took the Michael Jackson and the gunplay and they carried that into the sequel, but... There's so much Michael Jackson stuff. Like, I'm like stymied by that. You guys are watching that, right? Oh, for sure. We gotta follow...

Inevitably we'll end up doing it. Yeah, for sure. All right, so what do you got? Never mind. Oh, my God. Tim, you did it again. Obviously, we had opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

Hello, I'm Jason. Review said it was bad, a total train wreck. I couldn't help thinking that it wasn't bad at all. Review said it sucked as a complete disaster. I couldn't help thinking it wasn't bad at all. Second Opinions, they had these thoughts inside of their heads and they typed them with their keys. of their heads and they type them with their keys. Amazing! Give it up for Jason! Alright, for whatever reason it's just June and I on stage. I love it. I love it.

There are 1,673 reviews for this film, which is a lot, especially doing this show a lot. That's a huge amount. 83% of the reviews of this film are five-star reviews. Only 1% are one-star reviews. I'll start off here from 2024 in March. All right, so this is just a little while ago. Jessica writes, best part is how elderly and teens come together in harmony.

Always so much to learn from the elderly. Five stars. I will say, and maybe it is just because I'm elderly, it was... I loved a lot. I did think, like, again, I know I brought up about time earlier, and if you haven't seen it, I cannot recommend it enough. It is an astonishingly beautiful and heartbreaking movie. But there were moments between the young and old that I was like, oh, I wish this movie was more,

dug in more on that. There was such great stuff there. Anyway, sorry. Well, Karen Brobst in 2014 wrote, you must see this movie and appreciate Corey Feldman. The review goes like this. This was one of the best movies I've ever seen. I am 65 years old and I have gone to a movie every week of my whole

life. Five stars. For a whole life every week. I'm gonna end with this one because it will tie into what's gonna happen next year. E. Cooley titles this review great movie for all generations. It's so romantic, it has a lot of human emotion in it. I have to admit, I used to be in love with Meredith Salinger, who played Laney in the film. Corey Feldman might not be the best actor ever, but he was excellent in this, and the Academy Awards should have noticed.

The rest of the crew, well, they made an excellent movie. And the director and editor, they did a first-rate job. What else did this director do? Five stars. Now, sometimes on the show we say, oh, we'll do a third opinion, but you know what? The best opinion might come from someone who was there. And tonight we have a very special guest.

You know her from the film as Lainey, but please welcome Meredith Salinger. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I have a seat right there. Welcome. Welcome, Meredith.

Well, this was a treat because we know each other, and when we picked this movie, I didn't realize that you were in it until I looked at the poster of it, and I want to know everything. I mean, we all do, I imagine. I mean, yeah, like, well, thoughts, reflections, anything. I don't understand this.

You guys have said things tonight that I'm like, I never got this movie when we did it. I don't understand this. You guys have said things tonight that I'm like, I never got this movie when we did it. I don't understand it. It never made sense. I asked a thousand questions and then I was just like... Never got the answers, huh? No. Was I right that you are dormant?

Were you dormant? Was it dormant? Was there a dormant Gina inside of you? Were you told to play dormant Gina? I feel like it was dormant. Okay. Because I believe that it was, because at first she's sort of like doing things

that she doesn't normally do. You guys got the lip pull thing. And then he's like, when you go to bed tonight, like maybe you'll find her in there. Right. And so then I think you get that little bits of them together, but like you're right, it's never been fully. Now I have an important question.

In terms of your choices, were you working with the reality that your mom was tranquilizing you every night? In retrospect, listening to all the terrible things, like I didn't really feel it back then. It was the 80s. It was a different time. It was the 80s. Like, all that stuff about, like, he hit me and all that stuff. And I'm pretty, like, I'm a super feminist.

Like, that stuff really didn't really set in my brain. But I think the whole filming of that movie was so weird. And... Oh, really? Meredith, this movie was weird to film? But everybody in that movie was, like, musical. Like, Mickey Thomas played the teacher. Mickey Thomas from Jefferson Starship or something.

Oh, yeah? Okay. And then the guy who was, like, the boyfriend of the mom. Ron? Ron is something, something in Foley. What Dan Engel... Tim, get on this. Tim? Tim?

Google Tim faster! Like that guy's a famous musician. Can people... Oh wow. Wait, was the director or the writer somehow a musician? The director is the son of Alex Rocco. Oh. What?

This movie is directed by Kid Rocco? Yes. Who knew? Yes. I mean, were you present for the Michael Jacks? I mean, you were for parts of it, but were you? Was I present for the Michael Jacks? I mean, because it's like, that's one of those things.

That dance scene is haunting me to this day. Like... Can you go a little bit into how did this happen? I can explain. Well, there was a choreographer. Okay. But then... Gone.

That was... No. But then there was maybe another choreographer? But then there was a choreographer. A choreographer? But... Tim! Tim!

Tim! Tim! Tim! Tim! Tim! Tim! Tim! Tim! Tim! There was a choreographer. A choreographer? A choreographer? But... Tim! Tim! Tim!

Game recognized game. Tim! Absolutely elevating Meredith and just crushing James. Hey. Look, I can't fault the guy. He picks his moments well. I mean, they did keep explaining that situation like, oh, how would the old man know how to dance? And you said, oh, he watched that Michael Jackson video

over and over. And so it was sort of like you could justify. Right. Anything happened in the scene that we didn't see, right? It's like, oh, well, he could have done a million things. We just aren't privy to them, right? Right, like, yeah, like costume choices got chosen, because, like, you know, you might have a personal preference

as an actor. Yeah, because he doesn't really... And this is the thing. What I would say is, like, that makes the movie hard, because he never seems to be embodying an old man. Right, but he trips sometimes. Okay. So sometimes it's not like perfect.

Right, okay. Well you, Lainey to me has a very classic trajectory of like a young woman in these movies, which is she spends most of the movie trying not to get raped at every turn, just like trying to fend off rapists. True. And then the guy who doesn't wanna rape her right away, she falls in love with and is

then like has that classic line and this happens after the Michael Jackson dance, which is, you're so crazy. Yeah. And I was so happy that to see you play out that narrative because it is, it's just very iconic. An epic. Yes. It's an epic performance. There is, but there is, there is an element of it

which is insane, which is that your character is for all intents and purposes falling in love with Jason Robards. Not Corey Feldman, not Bobby. Right. I wanted that last scene to be, to be like walking away with Corey Feldman, but looking back at Jason Robards, like, hmm. Or, yeah, or not with Corey Feldman at all,

just like ding-dong Jason Robards' house. Yeah, that would have been good. Meredith, when you were working on the dance sequence, did you, was there any information from the director of like this is dance club and you compete every Friday? This is... Oh, like why, what was that group? Yeah.

I think it was just like dance class at school. Maybe I, yeah. But you said something earlier about like how it doesn't make sense and why is Corey Haim even in it? And my favorite part of the entire movie is that scene with Corey Haim in the car where it's going on and he's like, hello honey.

Like he's just so funny and cute and adorable. And that was the best part of the movie for me, just that little him being funny in that moment. Here's a thought that, knowing that you were going to come out here, I was thinking about this, I looked about, it's shot in North Carolina, right? Yeah, on Wilmington Beach. All right, so you're shooting in, and I believe the high school is the same high school from

the pilot of Dawson's Creek. I did some deep diving. Oh yeah, I did Dawson's Creek there too. Oh yeah, wow, it's looking, oh, you worked there. So you went back there and filmed Dawson's Creek? I did, I went back to did Dawson's Creek there too. I was off on this one. Oh yeah, wow, I was looking at... Oh, you went back there and filmed Dawson's Creek? I did, I went back to film Dawson's Creek. Was that wild? Being back at Dream a Little Dream? You know, Van Der Beek, I filmed Dream a Little Dream there.

I don't know what it was about. And I was there. I asked a lot of questions. I know what this is about. It's your creek. When you're, but you're there in North Carolina, and I always feel like when you're, when you're in a, in a place away from home, there is like this kind of, you have family that forms there, but you also are with these two guys who are arguably at the height of their career at this point.

Is there hangout there or are they just kind of untouchable in this moment? No, no, no. We actually had the most fun filming. Shelly and I were besties. Shelly. And we'd hang out with Harry Dean and Smoke Pod. And it was super fun. That's what we wanted.

Can you imagine hanging out with Harry Dean Stanton and Piper Laurie and being like, what's it like to be Carrie's mom? And Harry Dean Stanton's performance in Pretty in Pink is one of the most important performances ever. Yes, he's so amazing. And we'd stay, we all stayed at the same hotel, and there was a bar at the bottom of the hotel,

and every now and then, like, we'd go down there and order strawberry daiquiris. But then, for my, well, the day I turned 18, we were shooting, and a cop came on set, and I thought, oh, for my, well, the day I turned 18, we were shooting, and a cop came on set, and I thought, oh my God, we're in trouble because we ordered strawberry daiquiris with whipped cream downstairs, and I was really scared, and I'm a really good girl.

And so the cop and I stopped filming, and everybody's like, what, looking at me, and I'm so scared, and the cop comes up to me, and then's like, what, looking at me? And I'm so scared. And the cop comes up to me and then somebody presses. And he's like, a total stripper. They hired me. Oh my God. On my 18th birthday. Dean Stanton blazing another J watching the.

It was a different time. You're welcome. People did like this movie back then, though. I know everyone's like, it's the worst movie ever. But back then, and some people were like, that's my favorite movie. And one of my best friends was a total fan. When I first met her, she was like, that's my favorite.

I'm like, really? Meredith, thank you for being here. Thank you, guys. This was so nice. This was awesome. Thank you, guys. This was so nice. This was awesome. Yay! Just fantastic work. What is the life?

You're so great in the movie. You're such a great sport for being here and trying to answer questions from a film that was shot in 1988, so I appreciate you going down. And made no sense then. No, made no sense then either, yeah. But you, but like I said, these are the movies that I remember you going down. Anything- It made no sense then. No, made no sense then either, yeah. But you, but like you said,

like these are the movies that I remember this movie. It was, it was a big deal movie. It's so awesome to have you here. Anything that you want us to know, anything else about you, anything that we can, yeah, anything at all. Well, I have been coming to the Largo for like 20 million years.

My best friend always sings here, my Nika Costa and my husband is Patton Oswalt and I'm always backstage watching from the side and it's super fun to be up on stage and I'm happy you asked me. Yeah. We're so happy that you're here. What a treat. Give it up for Meredith. Yes! Woo! Alright. That was awesome. Alright.

Such a treat. We've done it. We've done it. We've told Tim to fuck himself. Told James to work on the projector. We know what our T-shirt is. Now, James, I want you to talk. You have an HBO special coming out.

Actually, I'm imagining that this will be out at the same time, so we can just say it like that. So your HBO special is out right now. Tell us a little bit about that so we know where to find it. It's called, uh, Heckler's Allowed. I'm sorry, is that right? Heckler's Welcome! Welcome, sorry. Sorry, I know you've got a lot on your plate. You've had to watch a different film every day your whole life. I've watched it and I'm 65 years young.

It's called Heckler's Welcome. It's shot where I grew up and it's a gig where I allow the audience to do whatever they like. There are no rules. So it's like an audience full of Tims. I perform it in the round as well. They are surrounding me, they can do whatever. I'm dealing with them while also trying to tell the story of why I'm doing this show and about my own shortcomings

at CS as well as HBO. And now I imagine every night is different. So how many shows did you tape or is it a compilation of multiple shows or is it a compilation of multiple shows or just one great show? It's the one show in Northampton where I used to go and watch shows when I was even a comedian. And I was so panicked about if we'd get a good one or not that I also filmed it in Dublin and in a place called Truro in the UK and have no use for those now, but filmed those anyway.

And we also did an audio recording in my actual home hometown of Kettering and that's out on vinyl and it's a completely different show to the HBO one because they heckled me for 95% of that. And it's such a small town that the hecklers turned out to know each other. That is amazing.

Any, and we can find, we can find out. I will also recommend James's other two specials, one of which is called Repertoire. It is on Netflix. And the other is called Cold Pizza 1997. I hate myself. I love watching people trying to remember that title. It's something like that. Cold Pizza and You Hate Myself 1999.

And that is available exclusively on my website. And it is incredible. Both of these specials are absolutely fantastic. Huge fan. Also your season of Taskmaster. Great season of Taskmaster. Your books are fantastic. How to quit social media.

Classic scrapes. I didn't even look at anything. I know it in my head. Paul and I have both done your podcast, which is fantastic, and thank you for doing ours. And Gene will be on it, and you can do the hand as much as you like.

In fight. OK, great. We will be so glad to have you on it if you would like to come on and talk about food. Well, I've never made an enemy on a podcast before. This is great. This feels bad. You got two.

You got two. I don't give a shit about it. All right, everybody, Thank you so much. We will see you next time. Bye-bye, everybody. All right. Thank you, James Acaster. And thank you, Meredith Salinger, for coming down to tell us a little bit more about Dream, A Little Dream.

I mean, that was truly a dream come true. A big shout out to the amazing staff at Largo and everybody up in the booth this past week. We've had a great team there and we will be back in January for a three night run. So get those tickets right now. But if you can't make it out to LA, we have our holiday show coming up. That's right, our holiday show on December 12th with

Jessica St. Clair. Now, you might want to immortalize, dream a little dream, but we are going to immortalize a moment from this show that's a little bit different. You see, we figured there's no better t-shirt than a t-shirt that says, James Projector. That's right. we have the James projector shirt right now in our T public store go to T public comm slash stores slash HD TGM it will be on sale right now I mean on sale and on sale at discounted anyway people if you got opinions if you have a take I mean I don't know what we could have missed from dream a little dream but if you have something to tell us, give us a call at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K or jump on our Discord at Discord.gg slash H-D-T-G-M

and we will break it down together. We will answer your questions. And you know what? Jason and I have to talk about a lot of stuff. And one of the things we're gonna talk about is the Back to the Future musical that Jason had no idea about and that I am truly obsessed

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