How Did This Get Made? - Drop Zone

Episode Date: May 22, 2026

Wesley Snipes and Gary Busey star in the 1994 skydiving thriller Drop Zone, which believe it or not is Busey's second film about skydiving criminals after Point Break. Paul, Jason, and June break down the opening plane heist, all the mid-air 69ing, the copy machine kill, Wesley Snipes punching Yancy Butler, Swoop's antics, and so much more. Does this movie feature a classic Loosey Busey? Tune in to find out! • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Leave us a voicemail at speakpipe.com/hdtgm• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

A designated, often unobstructed area where parachutists, paratroopers, or air drop supplies land. Now, if that doesn't sound like an action movie, I don't know what does. We saw Drop Zone. So you know what that means. Now it's time for how did this campaign? We're going to have a good time, celebrate some failure, not just be a hater because you know you wonder, how did this campaign? Let's win the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question. How did this get made?

Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to How Did This Get Made? This is a show where we talk about the misunderstood classics. That's right. This week we're talking about the 1994 film Drop Zone with Wesley Snipes. It's kind of like point break, but less complicated and oddly more confusing. If you want to know what happens and you have not seen the movie brief setup, you got Wesley Snipes. He is trying to transport this prisoner, Michael Jeter, to prison, but in the middle of their flight, they are hijacked by terrorists led by Gary Busey, who not only take the prisoner, but also kill Wesley Snipes's partner. And brother. And brother. And brother. And long story short, Wesley Snipes has to team up with a bunch of skydivers to uncover a plot of a former DE agent.

Who is using skydiving to break into big buildings. Anyway, welcome to the show, my two co-os. Just that. Just you attempting to get through the explanation was incredible. Oh, my gosh. Please welcome, Jason Manzuka and June, Diane, Raphael. How are you both? Wow.

I mean, just watched it. Just watched it. Just finished. I probably won't be the same for the rest of my life. It's so interesting because I just finished. Well, actually, not just. I say, you know, it's 3 o'clock right now. Probably finish a 2.30.

And then I immediately, and I mean immediately, needed a nap. Yeah. It's exhausting. And it put me to bed. I wasn't tired watching it, but like something happened to me where I was like, I got to go bed. It makes you feel like you're breathing thin air in the atmosphere at 37,000 feet. Oh, my God. So many things happening in the sky. For no reason.

It could happen on the ground. Yep. Oh, yeah. By the way, I'd also argue that this is a movie about parachuting that does not understand how parachutes work, especially in the third act, because parachutes are being reopened, closed, pulling people while they're walking. There's a lot of parachute work. Sorry, Paul, I know you just said it, but it's already escaped my mind. What year? Well, this is what I wanted to talk to you about.

Because it feels like, yeah, the movie feels like it's parachutes are brand new. Well, that's the thing that's. Absolutely wild. I don't believe that parachuting is new, but it feels like they're talking about it like rollerblades. Like, do you know what this culture is? Have you heard of it? It feels like extreme sports, you know, or something like that. And I'm going to ask, you know, and I'm sure I'm wrong.

I would have Googled this, but I had to go to sleep. Is skydiving a competitive sport? I don't know. And I mean, I'm certain there must have been. in weirdos trying to do stunts and nonsense, but like the DC, the third act event that all of the teams from all over the country, including the good guys team and the bad guys team, are all at like a competition or an exposition or a showcase? I don't know what it is.

They get to parachute into a fireworks display, which seems ill-advised. It's very dangerous. The one spot you shouldn't parishes. I would think. And I mean... Well, the reason why, but so here's the thing, because I was also, I was obsessed with the fact that, like, the big event was in D.C. First of all. Like, why? Oh, by the way, for just to just for time sake, not to timestamp this.

I don't know when this episode will come out. But on the, on the mall, on the reflecting pool, they're parachuting into the Washington monument as we are currently tearing it out of the ground. That's right. But I hear... Here's the thing. I can understand, well, can I understand? If there's the biggest event in the skydiving community, I can see it in like Hawaii or, you know, coaster. Right.

Some place where it's like, oh, the landscape is so gorgeous to look at. D.C. Metro D.C. One of the reasons they said, aside from it being the 4th of July, okay. but okay, but one of the reasons they want D.C. is because they never have access to the airspace. Correct. Right.

And by the way, the reason why that accident did just recently happen in D.C. Crowded airspace. Very crowded airspace. So this is the moment that they can finally get to see the beauty of D.C. From above. Well, I think that what we're meant to believe is that the skydiving event, them creating this, a geometric pattern of people in the sky. And Jason, one pattern.

It's for the people on the ground, not the skydivers. I don't think this is like, hey, we're going to get a great view. I think it's for the people on the ground to look up and be like, oh, I guess they're in concentric circles. My mind is blown? Like, I don't understand. I think it's a little half and half. It's for the people, but it's also for the skydivers.

It's sort of like we're putting on a show, but we also get to audvers. to be in the show. To be in the show. That seemed to be a big part of it. But here's my question. So the, they audition for it, and that's when, during the audition sequence, that's when one of our, our teams, the good guys, one of them gets hurt midair, sabotage midair. Yeah. Okay, fine.

The second sabotage. He's out. He's out. So. By the way, we are talking about the third act of this movie. I know. I know. We will get back to the front.

We'll go all the. Back, don't worry, but just know this. Then both teams, I guess, move forward to go to perform in the actual show. Oh, there's a lot of people. So then we're in the actual show. And to my surprise, it's at nighttime. Okay. But I guess we need to see the fireworks. So why isn't there ever a shot, though? When you see their sky suits, they have lights on them, which I thought was kind of cool. But we never see them from the audience's perspective from the ground. Never. You can't spend that time because the drop has nothing to do with the crime. Right? The drop, like, they just need to get up in the airspace so they can pretend. Why can't we see? I know, but they do make that shape.

Why couldn't we see that shape from the ground? I agree 100% with you, June. And I also thought it was very strange. And I think the reason is because they're using this Fourth of July event on the mall at the reflecting pool as if it is what they're jumping into. but the action of the movie is actually not taking place there. So I don't think they wanted to stock the mall with, I think that's just B-roll. I don't think they wanted to stock the mall with people,

pay for extras, pay it'd be so big for our good guys and bad guys just to go to the DEA building instead of the mall. And now I will say, you know, we don't, we're not getting into politics here, but when this movie was shot, it looks like people are treating that mall disgustingly. Like there's a guy juggling fire batons in it. Somebody's like,

walking in it, something, bike riding in it. Talk about drain the swamp. Oh my God. The single person in the pool up to his waist juggling pins on fire blew my entire mind. I was obsessed with the guy, two people who had, were on bikes in the reflecting pool. They were going upstream. They were going upstream, like trying to ride their bikes upstream in the water. Yeah.

What was this? What the fuck is going on? It felt like a Saturday afternoon. Now, here's what I'll tell you, because the original question that got us off on this, and yes, we'll be talking about skydiving a lot. When was skydiving invented? Well, people say the person who invented it, Leonardo da Vinci. That's right. Leonardo da Vinci is conceived the idea.

Whose people? Who's people? From the movie that we did? Hudson Hawk was it? Hudson Hawk, was it? Yes, so basically the first official parachute jump was in 1797. 1797, and I will say that looking through the history of skydiving and jumping, it seems like the 70s became a very big part of, like, more recreational jumps. And then there was like this, in the 70s, it was doing a lot more of these formations.

And then, according to this website, Skydive New England. In 1982, that was a huge year for skydiving because they invented the three-year-ring system, which was. is better to not have accidents. And it really does seem that 89 is the last year of true skydiving innovation, which was, and these are all ways to prevent you from dying. Like 83 and 89, basically the big inventions are things to prevent your shoot from not opening. But as far as like pop culture. Like safety features. And like, so it became something not just for like the military.

or like true daredevils, it could be, anybody could take a class on a weekend and you could skydive, you know. Let me say something because I know we've spoken pretty negatively about the movies so far, and I want to offer something positive. So for a few years, probably two years, I worked at Puck Fair in New York City, and one of the bartenders was a skydiver. He is from Australia. and the intense energy that was coming off of him

and the sort of mania, I'll say it, behind his eyes, bright blonde hair, look like Gary Buse. It's like you dated this person. I didn't. Okay. But they did capture a certain quality about these skydivers. And an adrenaline junkie. Yes.

I agree. And I thought they did a great junkie. of this, only to be outdone, I would say, by Point Break. Yes, yes, of course. Another Gary Busey skydiving movie about heist. Yes, yes, yes, which is so weird. By the way, Point Break came out three years earlier than this. Earlier, that's what I was going to ask.

So this is like Point Break came out in 1991. This came out in 1994. I feel like Busey was like, oh, man, I'm bummed. I had to be a good guy in Point Break. I want to be one of the bad guys. So I'll do this one. We, I really want to say this, and I mean this in all earnestness. Go ahead.

I think we are missing out on an opportunity. How have we done so few Gary Busey movies? I think he is, he's got to have a library, a catalog of movies we should be doing. Summer of Bucie. Maybe it should be a summer of Gary. That maybe it is. Son of Bucy Summer. Oh my God.

Hot Bucy Summer. I agree. He is compelling on screen. I mean, absolutely electric. His death in this movie is a great tight close. He is falling from the building and you get a tight close up of his face. And he is known to have a big mouth and a big jaw. Like he is going for it.

He's a cartoon character. Oh, yeah. I did a movie with Gary Busey. Whoa. Yeah. And I was never on set at the same time. But when I first came to set, the lead actor had a neck brace on. And I said, what happened here?

And he said, Gary Busey was flirting with my girlfriend in the movie. And he saw me as a threat because in the movie, I'm her boyfriend. And he kicked me in the throat. Oh, my God. Well, by the way, there's that moment at the bar. Yes, there's a moment at the bar scene where he's excited about something. I don't know what's happening. And he kisses the woman on their team.

Yeah. And I felt for sure. that that was just, that was not scripted. That was nobody signed on that. That's what they call a classic Lucy Busey. That was a thousand percent of Lucy Bucy. A Lucy Bucy, indeed. Now, I'll tell you this much.

I want to put two things here because this is how I feel about this movie. This whole movie is Lucy Bucy because this is Wesley Snipes at the peak of his career. Like, just listen to this. Like he's doing Mo Bed of Blues, New Jack City, Jungle Fever, White Man Can't Jump, Passenger 57, Boiling Point, rising sun demolition man Drop Zone, right? So these are like he is a box office star and there is a

Tax evasion. Well, yes, that's coming. Oh, I will tell you. I don't know if that's yet. I think that's coming. That's later. Yeah. He did build a pyramid.

I believe there is a pyramid. But I wonder if these movies are the movies he didn't claim. These are the paychecks he was trying to object to object. Now, I will tell you this, that there's an energy of him in this movie that feels like I am untouchable, I will do whatever I want,

which means I'm going to wear what I want, and I'm going to say what I want. Because when you open up on that scene of Wesley Snipes and his brother, Malcolm Jamal Warner, as they are in the car, I'm like, this wasn't scripted. This is just two guys. I mean, listen to it. You got to be sick of those tired two-month relationships.

The problem is you're not meeting the right kind of woman. A woman who will run with the wolves, somebody who will at least keep you interested. Run with the wolves. Yeah. I told you by watching too much of that Oprah shit. Come on, Pete. A little excitement's not going to kill you.

Terry, I like the women nice, quiet, and dull. You know what I'm saying? Not like that Mongolian feminist that you set me up with. You don't think Mongolian feminist was scripted. I mean, right? It was like, what is, like, I was literally looking at it was like, this is the first time we're meeting these guys. There's nothing in here that gives me like any, like, and I'm like, and I'm like,

And that's what this whole movie feels like. It just feels like, Wesley Snipes is like, I'll drive a car like this sometimes. Sometimes I'm going to drive a motorcycle. And then when they ask me where my car is, I'm like, don't worry about it. Like it's like there are, there's just like he feels like he is running around this. Thank you for saying the poem because I almost rewinded. And I was like, did I miss a scene where he lost his car? Nope.

No. The movie feels, the movie is basically like, don't worry about it. You're dumb. Don't just let us. let us cook. You know, it almost feels like they shot it,

you know, over the course of years or something. And, you know, like, it feels so, and it's, this is a John Baddam movie.

This is a very good, like, journeyman director. Um, this is like, I understand how we got to make this movie. And why, like,

a top of his game, Wesley Snipes would be like, absolutely I want to do this. A point break style action, you know, um, uh, a dare devil.

What's so interesting. though, is that he allowed himself to be scared. You know, like, he didn't like it. He wasn't like, like, Keanu Reeves in point break gets, he's just as much of a junkie as the bad guys are. You know what I mean? Like, he gets into it. But Wesley Snipes is not only bad at this, he's scared of it.

And that's, and to me, the best part of this movie, and I want to play just a section of it, is Wesley Snipes ADR lines or his. grunts and groans as he's falling because he does really go for. He's like, well, here. And it's all like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, help me. I've never, I've never seen anyone so scared in a movie and I loved it. Well, what I loved about it too is like when we talk, we talk so often about like how

modern action stars, your Vin Diesel's, you're the rocks, your people are unwilling to lose a fight, unwilling to take a punch, unwilling to get knocked down, unwilling to... Unwilling to hit a woman in the face. But Wesley Snipes is like, I'm... No, no, please, let me be fearful. Let me be bad at this. Let me be... And I'm like, this would never happen now that he would somehow fall out of a plane and have to ask for help and be rescued by the woman who is like...

By the way, he's first in a plane crash where his brother dies. And then he's immediately in a prop plane with the skydiving crew. And what's the woman's name, Yancey? Yanty Butler. Yancey Butler just hits a button and drops him out of the airplane without telling him. He's sitting like balled up with his knees to his chest. I'm like, it was such a emasculating pose for an action movie. Yeah.

Drop like a bullet, like a sack of potatoes. Well, that's the thing that's tricky about skydiving in action movies is. And this is where I have sympathy for the movie. I mean, I guess point break was able to do it a lot more successfully, but there's so much goofy-looking stuff, right? So it's like you look pretty silly with your suit on. You look really silly when you're just flying down, like looking like a flying squirrel pose.

And then once you have to put your parachute up, you look like a little kid. When you have someone on your back, that's funny and silly. You know, there's no way when you land on the ground, that's funny because you fall on the ground. Like, there's nothing. Even when you're steering back and forth, it's pretty goofy. It's like there's nothing cool. And then when you, there's a number of instances where someone needs to be rescued midair. Yes.

And the person has somebody has to like, the only time it's cool is when the parachute isn't open and the person gets all tight and is like, like zoom. Yes. That's the only time it's cool. There's one cool shot too of Gary Busey, I think, one of the bad guys, thought it was him. When he, before he pulls this parachute out, he corkscrews down like the into a cloud. Like truly a core. And I was like, okay, that's cool.

But that was it. It's just hard. And like when they have to like rescue each other, they end up basically just trying to get into a like 69 position. Yes. They're always like, they're always throwing their. legs over. They're always doing like mid-air 69 and I'm like, you're, this is not cool. Like when Iie hooks her feet through his arms and then they kind of like do like a somber assault backwards. I'm like, what I like, oh, she missed it. Oh, no. I guess that was part of the rescue.

Well, the other weird thing is that when people, when they, when our bad guys land and start their heist and whatever buildings, I couldn't even follow what the fuck their plan was, but whatever building their first on to do their first when they find the undercover agents, I guess. When they get in there, they land on the roof. And what I found absolutely confounding is that nobody on the ground ever seems to notice. Yes. Giant. I mean, those things, those parachutes are 20 feet long.

They're parachuting into the middle of cities. Nobody sees them. So obvious. It's so obvious. And by the way, nobody sees them. But in this movie, this is a movie where nobody. sees or reacts to anything. In the opening of the movie, which we've discussed,

Wesley Snipes and his brother are marshals. They're escorting a prisoner on a 747. And as a number of people say in the movie, there is a jail break in the midair on a 747. And what's happening is everybody's in their seats. And then whatever the timer goes off. And whatever, six or eight people just start putting gas masks on and loading guns. And everybody else in the plane is like, what's that?

What's going on? And then there are gunshots. And Wesley Snipes still is like, what's going on? Something's up. I feel like something's up. Nobody has, nobody is good enough to be like, something's wrong. You know what I mean? Like, usually the cop or the hero is kind of, has like an intuition or an understanding.

The only reason why Wesley Snipes gets up is because the flight attendant tells him that, you know, that something's going on and she needs to bring it or flirts with him. He gets up a false. It's really, and by the way, I do want to spend some time talking about whether Wesley Snipes and his brother are good marshals. Oh, this is a great question. Yeah, because, well, first of all, I was trying to also think, like, they do present Wesley Snipes when he is doing in the bathroom sequence later on, all these, he takes on two guys, he's got a lot of moves, hand-to-hand cop. he's doing all this stuff and I'm like, don't U.S. marshals just to squirt people on planes?

And aren't they just like armed security guards? Well, they're sort of. I mean, I think there's a, and somebody will correct me, I don't think they are air marshals, i.e., they're on airplanes, just making sure everything's okay? I think they're U.S. marshals like...

transporting prisoners, for sure. But, yes, and like, hunting down escaped prisoners. And like justified, like, Raylan Givens on justified. They are. They don't seem to have any control. Michael Jeter's sitting on an aisle seat. That Michael Jeter is the escaped or the prisoner that they're trying to project from Evening Shade. That's how I remember him.

And he, you remember like, that's how I, he's so burnt into my head because I hated that show as a kid, but I just remember him on that show. But like they don't seem to be. And he's your classic nerd character. He's a nerd. Beautiful nerd. They kidnap the nerd so that he's a computer. hacker. And I not enough was done with Michael Jeter because they keep forcing him to do skydiving,

which is very funny. Because they need to force him to do skydiving to get him ready to parachute onto building so they can do the break-in, the steel different things. And they need him to be like modulated. Like he needs to be like he needs to be calm enough to be able to do his computer hacking. It was so funny. Can I just say though, I feel like there's easier ways to get into that building. Got to be 100%.

The funniest part was like they go through the trouble of having fake uniforms, fake security uniforms on under their sky suits. It's like, well, you should have just tried to get in the building that way. Or maybe if you need it. Maybe one incredible skydiver gets access and then lets everybody else in on the ground. Like the idea that the entire team, including the computer hacker, who is not part of the team, they just stole from a prison transport. The fact that they need him, they need everybody to skydive is so funny to me in a way that is like, it's the same era I feel like was treating stuff like bungee jumping. Like I almost felt like, and now I guess it would be those squirrel suits. those face jumping.

It was presented to us. It was presented to us as though it was like, oh, you can use a scooter. You can use your rollerblades. You can use, I guess you could walk. You could drive. Take a bus. Or you could skydive.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, the other thing is, don't they also like set up this moment where they meet this one guy and then he looks like he's falling off the building? Like, oh, he's got a secret parachute on. You mean swoop, Paul?

Do you mean swoop? I'm sorry, swoop. Swoop. Swoop who won't even talk. Swoop is, I fucking love Swoop. Swoop from homicide on the street. Oh, yeah. But like, Swoop won't talk to you unless you do a jump with him.

And it's got to be a good jump. But when he- Because that's the distinction, because he does do a jump with Wesley. And then he still doesn't talk to him. He does at the very end. At the very end, he calls him by his first name. And that is like, okay, he's in. No, I don't want to sound like my father, John Raphael, but I couldn't tell one of these guys from

the next. Nope. When they presented Swoop, like, oh, look at this character, this new character. I'm like, well, I'm so sorry. He looks exactly the same as the last five that I just saw. And part of the problem was that we are, like, for example, it's just continue to use point break as the thing. It is Gary Busey and Keanu Reeves are the police.

They insert Keanu Reeves into the bad guy crew, right? Right. But in this movie, Wesley Snipes needs to have. his own crew of sky. So there's two different full sets of skydiving crew. That's right. So you're looking at like 10, 11, sometimes 12 people in very similar looking jumpsuits who also have no real character.

I mean, it's Gary Busey and it's the other woman. There's a bad woman and there's a good woman. And then there is like swoop. And then everybody else is just like bald guy, this guy. Jagger, Jagger, who gets killed. Swoop who's got a beard. There's good-looking blonde guy. And there's little Frank Grillo, you know.

Well, it was just hard because it was also like, at one point, Wesley's like really upset in that bathroom scene and has a line like, you fucked with my team, you fucked with me, you fuck with me, something like that. And I was like, your team. Yeah. Your team? Oh, okay. Did I miss half of the movie? Yeah. And then he also doesn't really seem to skydive in that final sequel.

Like it doesn't lead up to him really being a part of the team. You're right. Until the very end. With Gary Bucy when he. Yes, because the guy gets, you know, like hurt. Well, can I ask, though, yes. How is it possible? So Gary Bucy falls out.

They fall together. And then Gary Bucy goes shooting toward the ground. and then somehow, though, goes, travels sideways into a car. Into, no, into the truck that is being driven by his guy, which is also padded. It's a padded truck. So they did have to put like a bunch of mattresses on all sides because it is a real stunt. And I was like, oh, man, this is painful because they are clanking into the side of this, like, open-ended truck. I mean, what I think is supposed to be happening, we're meant to believe that all the bad guys are going to parachute into.

this truck and that's their getaway. Their getaway is this truck full of matches. But instead, Gary Vucey just goes crashing through the front of it. Somehow, against all physics, he turns sideways and starts to move sideways. That really, it really made me laugh. I also had a question about, like, I want to go back to one thing. Physics in this movie and things that, like, they're overcomplicated, right? There's a lot of overcomplications.

We talked about how the skydivers are doing this, like, not midair rescue, but like a midair prisoner escape plan, right? They put explosives on the emergency exit door, which has a handle that would open. And in my thought process, it would cause the same thing. If you were to open the emergency exit in the middle of a flight and 30,000 feet, you're still going to get the same thing. To put explosives on the door. Oh, he's crazy, but my guess is you can. They're trying to say like, oh, you can't open doors once it's at that height or once it's at that.

Oh, okay. You have to blow it. But I agree with you, Paul. There were things about that plan that really, I couldn't stop thinking about it the whole movie because it was so bizarre. They wanted it to seem like Leidy, the nerd, was dead, right? That he didn't make it out. And that they were dead. And that they were dead.

The hijackers. Which is why he had to bite off his finger. Michael Jeter's finger is bitten off. which is a really crazy moment. I was like, whoa. And I knew what they were doing. It's a real Peter Pedigrew moment here. This is clearly the single finger absolutely stolen by J.K. Rowling for Harry Potter.

But I didn't understand, though. So they say, oh, we found his remains. It's like, well, no, you found a finger. Are we drawing conclusions that people are dead based on one finger? And then I was confused. So many people watch that that are alive. And why didn't they say? Because they said the hijackers were dead, but all those people also saw them jump out of the plane.

Why didn't any single passenger on a full plane say, I saw six people jump out? What? They looked like they had sky suits on, the diving suits. And the only reliable person they can talk to is like an eight-year-old girl. By the way, one of my pet peeves in movies And this is just like I've seen it a bunch Where they will write something for a little girl

And it includes a stuffed animal And it's an important piece of the scene And so she has stuffed animal on the plane And then when Wesley Snipes goes to talk to her To ask her what she saw He brings her another stuffed animal Oh yeah Which is never going to be replaced the other one

You can tell it's written that way in a script, but for whatever reason, they cast, and that's like for a six-year-old, five-year-old, maybe seven-year-old, but then they cast like a 10-year-old. Just a little too old. You know, or an 11-year-old. And you're watching this girl snuggle with this stuffed animal, and it, it, I can't tell you the cringe I feel. I'm just like, oh, no, you're too old to have that. And this scene where I'm supposed to feel like, oh, that's sweet.

I'm asking so many questions about why you're interacting and you're in that type of dialogue with this stuff down. My question would be, and perhaps a bit of a miscalculation in terms of what a girl this age would want, but nonetheless, a good thing to bring something for the girl in order to like, hopefully engender good feelings and get information that you need.

But maybe, hey, maybe take your sunglasses off. Oh, he intimidates the hell out of her. Maybe take your sunglasses off and look this girl in the eye. Make eye contact with her. It doesn't feel safe to be interrogated by a sunglasses wearing guy who's just giving you a stuffed animal. As June and I have been coaches of AYSO soccer, like one of the main rules in the book is don't wear your sunglasses when you're coaching these kids.

They have to see your eyes. And Wesley Snipes, you know, to me is treating. this girl like she's a 30-year-old woman. Like there is, like, he's like, yeah, here's a stuffed animal. But she's, she's been traumatized. I mean, oh, you say you got the creeps seeing the bear. I got the creeps when they just did a lingering shot of her on the gurney being wheeled into the ambulance.

Like, we don't need to see this little girl on a gurney for this long. And by the way, I still, I don't even want to talk. I still was confused about why they didn't just like, why didn't they go into the manifest, the passenger manifest, and find that. the name's, well, they shut it down. The computer started to make it all wonky. That's exactly what they were trying to do in the virus, the computer virus. I'm sorry, I forgot about the computer virus.

This has, this movie has, like, Act 1 is a blast because it is, it is this crazy plain, which I love, obviously. Heist that we're talking about. It's all of these kind of craziness. And then we get to one of my favorite, and I thought this was an 80s movie, but it's a little bit later, but nonetheless, I still love it. The location for where the skydivers hang out is, what is it called, like the sugar shack or whatever that. It's not, it's just, not just a bar. It's like a living quarters. It is like, it's a warehouse. All of these movies are always putting

people in what look like industrial buildings as homes. And this one's got it big time. And I love all the time they spent in the airfield where they, where they, where they, where our crew lives, the mother hen of which is one of my all-time favorites, Grace's of Breiske. Oh, she's so good. Laura Palmer's mother. So good. Incredible. Incredible.

In so few moments, she is so memorable and so fantastic. Well, they do something in this movie where I can't remember Yancey's character's name Joe Crossman or something. Yeah, I think that's right. Okay, something like that. I think Crossman is definitely. Crossman, okay. But they do something. I know it was.

a genderless first name because there's that trope. Yes, because it's a misdirect. Yeah, it's a misdirect. Well, it was actually supposed to be a man too. Oh, interesting. Well, I feel like this was the time where that reveal happened all the time, where you introduce a character. First, you're just talking about them.

They get highly credentialed as this, does that, and the other thing. You don't want to fuck with them, and they're crazy, and they're this and they're that. And she know, then they know their shit and this and that. and then she comes out. Oh, it's Charlie from Top Gun. Yes. It's the model. What they're all chasing is that moment.

Yes. And this was no exception. And also, lots of times I watch the whole thing and I know where we're going and I'm still surprised. Oh, I always fall for it. And it's like that riddle where it's like, you know. And aren't I a fool? Aren't I a fool? Is it that riddle that ends with the three?

Like the doctor says, I can't operate on that. Exactly. That's my son. Gusted that to us. Gusted that to us. And he, like, really was so excited. But it's like it does feel like that at every point. Now, I will say that this part was written for a man and they obviously changed it.

And that's where Yancey Butler said, no, he still got to hit me in the face because he was supposed to hit the man in the face. Oh, I see. When the faulty parish, she's like, why would you change it? Same idea. If a woman dropped me out of a plane, if a woman dropped me out of a plane, without telling me, without ever having sky dived before, with not even, I don't think he's even wearing a parachute. I think I would maybe punch her. I feel comfortable being like if someone did attempted murder to me, I would try and punch them. I grant you the authority, Jason, you have every way to punch her.

Nice. It was a play. It was a playful punch. of circumstances only. Now, you might recognize Yancey because she was also our love interest in the Jean-Claude Van Damme film Hard Target, the Louisiana film that we did in New Orleans

that time where they're running around the French Quarter. Wow, Paul. Oh, well, by the way, you know who I thought she was for a long time? Oh, no, I mean a long time. I thought she was Jillian Michaels, celebrity trainer to use.

Oh, yeah, she has a similar look. Gone very mag. A similar look, but also similar energy and similar, like, vibe. And I was like, wow, Jillian Michael started off as an actress. I had a whole narrative. I was like, that's great. And she's pretty good.

Okay. I couldn't get over how similar, needlessly so. She looked to the villains. Girlfriend. The woman on the villains team. I think her name is Kara. Exactly the same. She and Yancey Butler looked so similar.

Then I was like, why would you do this? Make it easy for you. us to tell again who is on the good guys team who is on the bad guys team help us out there's too many characters and a very confusing plotline that's the other thing is we never know the bad guys um plan we don't understand what it is they're doing it's just that they have now a hacker and they can skydive and then they're like okay we're stealing drugs we're stealing secrets we're stealing we can steal everything because everything has a roof everything has a roof everything has a roof so they can break into anything.

Anything that's got a roof they can get. Yeah. Now here's the thing that I think is interesting to. To me, as a lover of Point Break, these are not villains. They are criminals, right? You know, they have guns and obviously they don't kill people. That's a big part of Point Break. But they are violent criminals and there's a culture there that is tricky to get in.

But in this world, we are to believe that scumption. Skydivers in general, skydivers who are not bad guys that are not doing anything illegal are also equally as dangerous. Like if you go and sit in a skydiving bar where they're watching skydiving clips on TV, you will get your ass kicked because you don't belong there. Yeah. It's not like a, because they treat like a motorcycle bar. That's exactly what I was going to say. They are a gang for no reason. For no reasons that are question marks.

Well, they're out of their minds. I found it very troubling when they're in that bar, and we know because we saw it, our gang took out one of their own. And the bell gets rung. And they all look at each other. And I say, well, I can't remember. I think I wrote down how they phrased it. They say, blue skies. Black dead.

They say Blue Skies Black Death. Yes. What? And they ring the bell and they say, and it's treated as though. And they say they'll ring the bell every hour. Every hour. And the crazy thing about that moment is they all look around and it's like a very, there's like a very pregnant sort of weighted pause and honoring of this person who's passed.

And it's like, the feeling is like, well, they have to be here. They have to do this. They have to protect us in some. They have to be out there traveling the skies. It's as if, yes, they are the military or something. Yes, you don't. You can all never do this again. They literally are in a drop zone in Fort Lauderdale that looks like a family vacation spot.

They are in the, like, there's a scene where, you know, like, I've done the thing where you get into the tube and you put on the suit and you're in there. And there's footage of it. That's embarrassing. It's hard. It is hard. Are you willing to say that you'll post that footage? Sure. I would.

You know what? You should post that footage at some point when we're raising money for something. Use it as a goal. That's behind the. paywall type of footage. Okay, okay. Wait, do we have a paywall? I don't know, but if we did, we should put that there.

We're going to make a paywall just for that video only? And by the way, it's not even that juicy. It's just me not being able to fully, like, I felt the frustration of the instructor being like, why aren't you getting this? And I, because I thought, like, you have to engage your core and kind of what, that's what I imagine. All I'm going to say is when I saw Wesley Snipes have a hard time with it, I was like, got it. Got it.

Well, it's interesting because they are, all of that stuff before, obviously, Washington, D.C. happens. Everything else is in Florida, I believe. They are, and it is very Florida-coded, which I really enjoyed, because that's what feels trashy about it in the best possible way, because I just want to be very clear, Florida is trash. So, for me, what I really needed in this movie, and I'm absolutely mind-scrambled that I need to ask for it, I needed. I needed one scene of exposition where Gary Busey is like, I worked for the DEA, I got fired or whatever, I've dishonorably discharged, whatever it is, and I'm assembling a group of skydivers to do crimes. And so that these guys are like, okay, I'm in. I needed to see him assemble his team.

But why? Because it would have helped me understand what the fuck. No, he's asking why. He's asking why does. Gary Busey want to do this? Why did he turn on his own government? Why? I'm asking, Oh, that's easy to answer. He's Bucy, baby. It's a classic Lucy Bucy. Okay, got it. But here's the thing. I don't mind that this is a guy who worked for the DEA and that he turned on his people. That's fine. What I am confused about is, was he the person who's like skydiving?

Like, because it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the bridge too far. That, to me has so many more questions. It's like, and the idea is that like, we know that Michael, Jeter is a very capable computer hacker. He's been hidden from the government for a long time. Oh, I have a question about this, too. No, he's not hidden from the government. The government is hiding him from the bad guys who were trying to kill him. But inexplicably, the government is hiding him by putting him in the general population of a

gigantic prison. That is not hidden. And also letting him, like, feed cats. He was the most aggressive person out there. And why did that hawk? Why do we have a clue of a hawk on? Oh, my God. Thank you.

I thought he was like a controller of animals. I did too. They kept cutting back to that hawk as if the hawk was going to be somehow instrumental in killing him, saving him, doing something. And I think it's just there to establish for us in this movie, things will fly. Okay, so I thought for sure, once I realized with the movie, it's about, I was like, because I also was like, he has some special connection to animals. And I can't quite figure out what it is. They seem to be helping him. And then once he became clear, he's very scared of being out there flying, I thought, oh, his relationship and dialogue with animals or birds is going to help him.

Yes. In a skydiving type of scenario, that never came back. Nope, not at all. You know what I loved about Busey in the first heist, the first heist where they go and they steal the. information about the undercover agents, that one. They get in there and everybody immediately starts going to do their job. The guy goes to do the computer hacking. This one's going to do that.

This one's going to do that. Bucie keeps, it's clearly Bucie just riffing. He keeps going around to everybody and asking them if there's anything he can do to help. I didn't notice that. Can I help with anything? You're making me nervous. Would you just get away? What can I do to help?

You let me know. You let me know if there's anything I can do to help. And you can see almost on the actor's faces, they're like, how do I respond to this? I don't need help. I'm hacking. You know what I mean? Or whatever. This is why this movie, this movie has a lot of like, to me and, you know, I haven't, I've read John Baddam's book. I like John Baddam's book. Oh, really? Oh, John Baddham's great. Just about directing. Before I directed anything, my first time I ever directed anything, I read that book and it really helped me. But the way that, this movie feels like they were running rough shot all over him because it's like also the way like Wesley Snipes fights is comical like when he goes to the bathroom when they're beating up

swoop in the bathroom and like Wesley Snipes is ready to throw down with hard karate but it's like it's right at the cusp of before fight scenes got really good and it's like it's like he's just like bam bam like yeah and I do think that I like that he's always kicking one person to the left giving them a chance to recover and then going after the other guy and then getting back. Like, he's getting business done. He's knocking it off. I do think we kind of needed those sequences and end the one with the two with Yancy and whoever that other woman was.

Oh, the copy machine. Oh, my God. The copy machine was so great. And it was, I laughed so hard when the other taller woman was sort of up against the wall. And she seemed like she was just taking a second, I guess. I just seemed like she was mortally. harmed at that point. And then Yancey took the photocopy machine. And it doesn't move that fast. No. And you could tell that thing is fucking heavy. And by the way, also where was it plugged in?

And she just runs with it and rams it into her. And that kills her. Well, she smashes her face through it, through the glass in the photocopier too, right? Because she hits her. This only kind of breaks. I don't think it like a smash. I don't think so because then it still works. Right. The machine is still works somehow. I mean, listen, it's a very well-built machine. I will say this because...

They don't build them like that anymore. They really don't. Because after all that damage, it still does flawless copies. I mean, a lot. It collates all those copies. Oh, God. I laughed so hard when those papers came out. But what I was going to say is, like, you need sequences like that because the other moments

that are supposed to be really thrilling and engaging, which happened in the sky, are parachutes kind of getting caught in things? Kind of, yeah. Kind of, like the strings getting caught. Even when he goes into the electrical wire, to be quite honest, I couldn't really understand what was happening up there.

I couldn't understand how Gary Busey got him and pushed him and was controlling him. It's a mix and match of real stuff and fake stuff like on a set. And so they have to make these weird jump cuts where you have to like kind of miss about 15 to 20 seconds of important like action connection where you're like, okay, because we can't really crash a human being into these electrical wires, but we can get a guy close enough to them in a long shot.

And then we have to cut to something that just is exploding. And by the way, it's just hard because ultimately the action is just seeing somebody tangled. Yes. Somebody tangled. Oh, no. Oh, no. They're tangled. Yes, it's like, it's, it's, it's like, tangle is cumbersome.

It's like, it's just hard. It's like getting someone stuck by putting on a sweater. It feels like, no, I know their heads in there. They just got to get out. Are we jaded because we've seen like Tom Cruise defy the impossible in Mission Impossible movies? Jason, we saw the impossible three years earlier in point break. That's the other thing. You can't do a skydive movie and go backwards.

You can't be like, yeah, remember what's set the standard for skydiving? And by the way, this movie. is also in direct competition with another movie coming out called Terminal Velocity, which is a Charlie Sheen movie. So they're having this like kind of race to the finish line. Wait, is that also skydiving? Yes, it is a Maverick Skydiver and a former KGB agent team up to stop the Russian mafia from stealing gold, starring Charlie Sheen, Natasha Kinski, and James Gandalfeen.

I watched this many times. I would love to do it on the show. I feel like I've seen that movie. That sounds great. Also, by the way, maybe it's a skydive summer? Let's spend, guys, do you want to spend the summer midair with me? I would love to get to more skydiving movies. There's a lot out there.

I bet, especially from this era where somehow it was decided this is cool. This is exciting. This is dangerous. This is, whoa. This era of like, you know, skydiving. and, you know, like, it's, it is, it is cliffhanger, you know, rock climbing, you know, Stallone. If we open it up to, like, things like that, like extreme summer, we could probably find a lot of, like, that's interesting.

Well, honestly, it did make me wonder and ask some questions about skydiving because I was like, well, it seems like you can, in the movie, sort of travel around up there, like it's a freeway. like, oh, I want to get over there, so I'm just going to go to the left. Not with your parachute open, just as a person flying through the air, like you could maneuver through the sky like you would in a car or a bicycle or just walking. And I don't know, is that true? If I see Paul struggling with this parachute, can I just? Yeah, I think, I mean, I think I'm an expert. I think an expert, I think it's very difficult, but I think an expert, could get close enough to you to help or to, only at a certain height.

Below a certain height, you're dead. I think it's just RIP. We're going to have a lot of skydivers calling, but I believe that. Which I believe would be terminal velocity. You're just, you're going too fast. You're going to die. I think the idea is this. Like, in all these movies, something goes wrong and someone's got to save them.

Although Yancey does let, she does have that switch where she drops an inexperienced man out of a plane and then scoops them up, but she waits. They're like, well, give it a couple minutes. She's also, like, meant to be one of the best there ever was, you know, because Wesley Snipes is basically like, hey, they, this was an inside job. Somebody kidnapped this guy and jumped out and people like, jumped out of a 747 at 36,000 feet. That's impossible. Nobody would do that.

So the FBI and everybody are like, your brother did it. So part of this is Wesley Snipes trying to clear his brother's name, even though. though there's so little. Yes. And that does also seem to be let go of at some point. Yes. Jason, before we go too much further, I do just need to tell you, because I know I'm going to get this on the mini episodes, terminal velocity is the maximum constant speed of free falling when an object reaches the downward pull of gravity equal to the upward push of air.

So that is actually the moment where you don't have to pull your pack because that's the kind of moment exists. And float, yeah. Yes. And so that. So I just, yeah. No, I just wanted to, that's interesting. I just wanted to go back to everyone blaming Malcolm Jamal Warner for, by the way, RIP.

RIP. And I got to tell you, you know, Malcolm Jamal Warner, very big part of my life because I wouldn't have gone to NYU without his character of Theo Huxstable going to NYU. Oh, wow. It was the only school he applied to, and it was only because Theo Huxstable won there. And when I went to go see a live taping of the Cosby show, I raised my hand and asked him a question. What to me? Did he ask?

About NYU or? No, I said, do you really play basketball? Oh, that's so great. It's so cool to me. What did he say? Yeah. Yes. It's so cool to me that the Cosby show is so important to you in your life.

It was, I think what it was so interesting. The Cosby is so woven into the fabric. Oh, I love it. I got to get this guy out. We got to get this guy. out. He's out. I guess he is out.

Yeah. I mean, it just kills me that Malcolm died the way. Oh, my God. Anyway, that's... In a heartbreaking, I mean, just a devastating. And from everybody that I've heard from is just one of the nicest... Sweetest men. The sweetest men.

And it's just a good reminder when you were in a riptide. Just don't try to swim to shore. Swim parallel. I got caught in a riptide in Mexico and genuinely had to be rescued. Did you know to swim parallel? I started to drown. I did know. But the riptide was so wide that I kept going and then trying to get in, going and trying to get in.

I knew to swim parallel, but it was so long that I exhausted myself trying to swim parallel and get in. And then I started screaming for help and thank God was rescued. But genuinely started to swallow seawater. It was active. How old were you? Oh, 36? Oh, wow. Oh, God.

I mean, let me be clear. I mean, like, that's more scary because it's like you have all your faculties. I knew what was happening. I was like, I'm now starting to drown because I'm unable to stop taking water in every couple of breaths. So I'm now swallowing sea water every two breaths, which is the beginning of drowning. This is crazy. Oh, God, Jason. And then I had for years, I had that dream of that experience every day.

every night. Oh my God. That is so, I'm having anxiety just hearing. Me too. No, I don't fuck with water. I don't fuck with the water. I don't really either. And I was caught in a couple of really, really rough waves when I was like a teenager. Like I'm talking post hurricanes in New York and, you know, over the summer where it's like you'd go out and be excited for 12 foot 13 for wave. Yeah, for like a rough surf. Yeah. I was like thrilled to find out about big waves. and then I had a couple of bad experiences. Anyway, I will say that one of my favorite moments was,

I mean, not favorite, but one of the funniest moments is I was out in the water with my children, June's children as well. And when we were, when I was swimming with them, they got hit with a rough wave and it just ripped the bathing suit off my youngest. It was such a moment of like what happened. That's the power of waves that could rip your pants. Oh, my God.

I feel like some of the very, one of the very, very first times I saw boobs was on the beach when somebody was body surfing the big waves. And a woman in a bikini hit the, the wave took her all the way into the shore. So her bathing suit got knocked down. And so when she stood up, she didn't know and her boobs were out. And I was like, what is happening? That's honestly what happened. That's what happened to me with the. one of the bad waves I hit, I was taken in so far.

Yeah. And I went in like a bullet. Like people are traveling through the sky like bullets. That's what I was doing, like a bullet so fast onto the shore. I was knocking into moms and toddlers who were standing there. I was like going through legs. Those people were taken out. And I ended up on the shore with my bathing suit completely twisted around me.

Seweed. I mean, it was like, it was a sight. Anyway, I was starting to say this before, but why did Malcolm Jamal Warner's character Pete, I think? Mm-hmm. Or no, was this time since Pete, whoever he is. Why did he take so much heat for what happened? It seemed that he was blamed more than the hijackers. More than the hijackers.

And when they call that out, he goes, look, man, they're just trying to blame someone for this plane crash. It's like, what about the terrorist who put the people who. bomb on the door. There is forensic evidence that shows that there was a bomb on the door. I agree. I think what they were trying to say maybe was that he was in a, he was an accomplice and that he had fired a gun on the plane. Oh, I missed that. Okay. So they thought he was working with that? They thought maybe he was, you know, I don't think that, you know, like that, again, this entire plot line goes away. You know what I mean? Like, we don't get further into it. But I, but I, felt like part of what they were saying was about the fact that people on the plane saw him opening fire, you know, and that was he part of the problem? God. I don't know.

Even though there were five people in full skydiving outfits. And someone also got their finger eaten off. Oh, my God. Like, it seems like only two people flew out the door, one of them being Malcolm Jamal Warner and then the nether random. Well, why wouldn't you say like, okay, we found what's his name's the nerds finger? Finger. So we can identify it, but they're instantly like he's dead. Nobody is like, it has bite marks on it.

It looks partially chewed. No, they're not going to go that deep. That seems very weird. We talked a lot about the acting in this movie. And I want to call it one actor in particular for just, you know, they always say there's no small parts, small actors, right? And, you know, you can make a big difference in a small part. I don't know if you guys recognize this, but I rewind it twice because I found it to be so enjoyable. when our good guy gets caught in a parachute malfunction and is seemingly fine.

Wait, Wesley Snipes? Which good guy? Oh, Swoop's friend, because Swoop goes and rescues him. Grace Zabrisky's son. Oh, the young guy. The young guy. The young guy who gets hurt. Okay, yes. When the young guy gets hurt, they're in the back of the ambulance.

And the two other skydives are there and they're trying to take care of their friend. And the EMT is like, he goes, no one rides in the back. Yeah. No one. And he yells at them. Like, their friend is dying. And they're like, we're just, we're family. He's like, no one right.

He hits it twice. And it was so. For no reason. No reason to be that aggressive. And then he, and then the kid comes to kind of consciousness and is like, you guys go, you have a jump to do. Yeah. What?

You have just been like dead. We just saw you die. You didn't have a heartbeat. We're not jumping. What are you talking about? But by the way, can I ask you something? I would expect Jess. to no CPR.

All of them should know. I don't know why they didn't, nobody did a chest compression. Nope. Now, I know this was like, you know, we don't do mouth to mouth anymore. But this was then. But right, this was the time of mouth to mouth, but like not, there was never only mouth to mouth. The other thing was there was an ambulance on site. So, so cool.

So they, and you saw the, you saw the organizers be like, send the medic, send the medic. But like the people who are in the air with parachutes make it to the ground first, extricate themselves from their parachutes, get into the water to rescue this kid. I can't remember his name and start doing, like they are there so, so, so much faster than the emergency medical responders that I was like, this is not a good look for the organizers of this event. No, no. First of all, they organized for that event with his, he's like wearing, like, he's like wearing a, like, he's. he's like a leisure suit Larry character. His flight suit is like unzipped down the middle. It is a very bizarre look.

And I love it. And I loved everything about the guy. And I know that that guy is real. I know that guy has to be a real dude. Like he's like, I got actually consulted on that movie. I'm acting and everything. Well, I felt like all of the skydiver, because there's, obviously, there's a ton of skydiving in the movie, real actual skydiving.

With both a nine point star and a 24 point star, just so everybody. knows and understands what we're talking about. Yes, please, June. The 24-point star was cool, and nine-point server is cool? Yeah. Is that all? What other, what other truth? That's it.

Oh, and you mentioned the lights earlier. They light up. Yeah, can we do anything else with our bodies up there? Nothing. We can't make any other shapes. Well, here's the thing. I think you have to remember, they're making shapes that are meant to be seen from the ground. Right, but why not get us so many people up there that we're doing the American flags?

Oh, by the way, I love that. But I think we are, in 1994, I think we're years away from that being possible. Yeah, I mean. You know, I mean, and I mean that. Like, I feel like that's some shit that they would do now. Like, would be on a Red Bull channel. You know, where it's like they launched 300 people into low orbit to do the American flag. You know what?

Obviously, there's so many things to cover here, but let's also give a voice to the people who absolutely love this film. It is now time for second opinions. Paul and Jason and June talk a lot about what makes a movie good or not, but everyone knows they're actually full of shit. We need a second opinion. Someone that knows what they're talking about. We need a second opinion. Thank you, give me a second, we need a second opinion.

Thank you, Wolves of Glendale. Now, there are 246 total reviews, not a lot. You know, in the grand scheme of doing the show, that's a low number. 69, yeah, percent are five-star reviews. 69% are five-star reviews. And this is the one that really sticks out to me, and it's a visual, so please picture it. it's a picture of Yancey bedside with Wesley Snipes when he's like in the gurney. And it says the title is end scene, Pete and Jesse.

And this is from 2026. I say at the end of the 1994 movie, Pete was on the stretcher and Jesse came over and took care of him. And he got grown closer together, five stars. So this is just a person that just wanted to show you that he felt at the end of of the movie, are two characters who didn't like each other, group closer together. Yeah. I don't remember them not liking each other. They seem to be friends from the bunch.

Yeah. She was, well, she was mistrustful of him because he's a cop and she is on parole, you know, so she thinks he's out to get her. But no, but yeah, then very quickly they are, they're buds. They're working together. I just love that this person wrote a review just like he liked that there was a happy ending for whether it's nice. Bailey writes, great overlooked film.

I got this movie eons ago on VHS and I was happy to get it on DVD. This is a fascinating look at the subculture of skydivers. I'm not into skydiving myself, being one of the why jump out of a perfectly good airplane kind of people? But it's a good thriller with some humor and some interesting characters. It even has fight scenes that I don't find tedious. Five stars. Doesn't find those tedious. I didn't find them tedious either, actually.

No. I will say this. They're quick. And they will say this for the movie. God damn it Again, I don't know if I'm okay I'm not okay But it didn't

I didn't find this movie to be hard to watch No, it was pretty easy Not at all And I will say that I watched it under difficult Circumstances like I had to break it up I realized today like Oh shit I had to go Do two different things across town

And so I was like I'm not enough time to drive And watch this So I watched this in a way mo by myself Wow. Yeah. Crossed down one way, crossed on the other way. Actually, the best way to watch it, No Waymo. I mean, I think it's not bad.

Yeah, and it was not bad. This one we got from Letterbox, which I just like it because it's sincere from Commander Blossom. I watched this cool movie back in 2020 with my dad, who has now passed away. Five stars. That's it. Okay. That's it. A lot of odd ones in here.

These are just statements, really. Just statements. Just statements. And I'll end with Jeff Burnham, who says, at the tail end of one scene, Wesley Snipes, shaking an aquatic creature out of his pantomime, shaking an aquatic creature out of his pant leg, onto the floorboard of his car, stomping it to death.

There's a very strange thing to see a man do in the front seat of a pristine 1965 Ford Mustang. Yet, I probably wouldn't have given a second thought if I saw a guy do the same thing on the Chicago Public Transit. Five stories. Wait, what body of water is he coming out of? I don't know. But again, all I'm saying is that these reviews are all...

I guarantee if we did a little bit of forensic research, Gary Busey wrote all of these interviews. I was going to say, this feels somehow this feels like it's all from one person. These are classic Lucy Bucys. The other thing I want to just point out is this screenplay was written by the same person who wrote high school musical. Great. Perfect. And this is a quote that I needed to share with you both.

I don't know if you knew this, but the music was done by Hans Zimmer. Oh, yeah. Yes, I saw that. And people have said that this part of the score sounds identical to the Pirates of the Caribbean. Which he also did. Which he also did. I mean, listen to it. And Zimmer was once talking about the film, and he said this.

Drop Zone was written just for fun. I was being reckless. Nothing to prove, nothing to lose. The director was just happy I was working with him. Remember, I come from rock and roll. At the same time, I grew up with classical music, so I'm torn between the two. Drop Zone, I could do both. It never hurt.

You know, with some scores, you come away with a lot of scars. And drop zone, there weren't any. It was just a blast. You know what? Great. I agree. I agree, Zimmer. And here, and we'll drop it in here.

But when I started the movie, I knew I was in for a good time because there's like sunset, you know, whatever, B-roll. And there's that 80s, 90s-era electric guitar that just kind of like weaves its way through. And I was like, we're going to have fun. This is going to be good. And we did. ultimately. We did. I would have loved it

just a little bit more with a little bit more understanding what the fuck was going on. But otherwise, boy, was everybody doing their best to have a good time. And, you know, if you want to not just hear us

talk about the movie, but you want to ride the movie, you can still do that. Paramount Parks, now owned by Cedar Fair, do have a ride based on the movie. It was called Drop Zone Stunt Tower. Now it is called Drop Tower Scream Zone. But it is the ride

that was made. for the movie. And it still exists. And there was a sequel made by the stuntman, the skydiving coordinator for this film called Cutaway. This stars Stephen Baldwin.

Boy. By the way, made its money back, made over $64 million. I bet this movie is huge in skydiving circles by both nine points and 24 point circles.

Any final thoughts? I know that we have to wrap it up tight. Matt, loved it. I loved it. I thought it. I thought it was great. Let's fucking, let's do more. Lucy Bucy. Lucy Bucy. The Buse is loose.

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