How Did This Get Made? - Escape from L.A. LIVE! w/ D’Arcy Carden & Dan Levy (HDTGM Matinee)

Episode Date: March 3, 2026

John Carpenter brings back Kurt Russell's Snake Plissken to surf on a tsunami in the 1996 sci-fi action sequel Escape from L.A. LIVE from Largo in Los Angeles, D’Arcy Carden (The Good Place) and Dan Levy (The Goldbergs) join Paul and Jason to discuss Snake Plissken possibly being immortal, Cuervo Jones, playing basketball to save your life, and so much more. (Ep. #153 Originally Released 01/06/2017) • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

A movie more prescient about the direction of the world than it ever had the right to be. We saw escape from L.A., so you know what that means? How did Swastonagued Grove, baby in his belly, rock a rindstone vest while ripping Justin to Kelly or maybe see a burlesh show with hit Crow and take a boat with speed to hitting cruise control. J-man, Big Paul in the beautiful June,

gonna take you from the goob all the way to the room. Ran the games in street fight and hope to blow off steam. Just a sucker punch the odd life for Timothy Green. Shark needle, the bird demic, how we stand a lot. They call it in the badass, and he's on the line. Cranking 88 minutes because they cool as ice. Because a bad Jim, Varnie looking kind and nice. Paul and June getting literal.

Jason is getting laid. June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid. They're judging a bunch of movies while they're making the grade. Here's a real question for you. How did this get made? Largo at the Coronet. If you're over in L.A., definitely come out and check out Largo. They have amazing shows here all the time.

Tonight, they have an amazing show that talks about the return of a character that people were begging for. That's right. Snake Pilskin is back. And not only is he back, he's in essentially the same movie. With few differences. So minor. So, so minor.

We're going to talk about this tonight with a very exciting All-Star panel. But first let me welcome my co-host, Jason Manzuka. What's up, Jax? Jason. Paul. Paul, you may be shocked to find out that you've already mispronounced the lead character's name. Pliskin. Pliskin.

Not Pilskin. I said, like, I thought I was like, rumple-stilskins. You said? Well, because he says a lot of the times call him snake. And I take that literally. You call him snake. To be fair. You call him snake. I'm not worried about the pliskin.

Snake or SP? If I'm not mispronouncing your name, something's wrong. That's the way I live my life. That's how we'll know you've been replaced. Yes. When some, it was a habit that my dad had, that I have now adopted 100%.

We're all becoming our parents. Not cool. As I sat in as Fort Escort Ovik, that's not going to be me, and now it is. I want to know how to pronounce people's names. Somewhere across the country, he is wearing a Steve Harvey sweatshirt and his ears are burning.

I am. My dad doesn't even know the beauty of family feud. No, my dad's a great guy. I love him very much. He's the best. But we both can't pronounce people's names. All right, so joining us tonight also. Since June cannot be here tonight,

We have a very special guest. A How Did This Get Made All Star. You know him from the Glitter episode or his brand new C-So comedy special, Lion. Please welcome. Dan Levy. Whoop, whoop. Whoop.

What's up, Dan? Chill up. How are you? I'm not great because I watched this movie earlier today. You're welcome. It was also subtitles, so it was really confusing. I couldn't turn off. So the whole thing was like, gunshot, gunshot, gunshot, gunshot.

Gunshot. Gunshot. Gunshot. That is the worst movie to watch on Subtiles because it is, it's a lot of action being narrated. Oh, that is, oh, man, this movie is interesting. I have a real love, we're going to get into it. I have a real love-hate relationship with this movie because I feel like there are moments. A real will they won't they.

I may. Paul's going to fuck this movie. I might. I might. June's not here. Get ready for me To go down on snake Glitin

Get ready to watch a guy Fuck a movie Sorry June I want to fuck Pilskin I take a VHF A VHS cover box And I just do my business Um

From That's how he lost his eye He lost his eye really bad paper cut in the eyeball. Ooh, wow, why? Don't do that. Yeah. It never came off. The eye patch never came off. No, never.

All the shit he went through, you'd think at one point. Well, here, well, we should talk about that eye patch because I also feel like why, he's not, why would he be so vain? I want to see that, like, that cloudy water eye that he's got underneath there. Like, what's going on? Maybe there's nothing. Even better.

The socket? Just, I want to see the socket. I want people to talk about it. Snake Pliskin, the socket. Yeah, he's like, I got to put some salve on my socket. So it doesn't dry out, got to keep my moist socket. Look at my socket. Wait, what's that?

It looks like a little piece of jewelry in there. That's my socket locket. Guys, I'm on fine. The show hasn't even. introduced all the guests and you're getting gems like that. And I am crushing. Killing it all the time. I think we need to end the show after socket locket. I don't think we can be

socket locket. Today we also have a very special guest. She's hilariously funny. She know her from that brand new show The Good Place on NBC. Please welcome Darcy Cardin. Welcome. Darcy! Darcy!

All right. So, real quick, the plot breakdown of this movie, Snake Pliskin is back. What's the last name? Pliskin, or, you know, now I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. Oh, I think I said Pilskin. Paul said Pilskin earlier. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Snake is back. It's essentially the same plot as Escape from New York, but this time it's L.A., and he's changed pants. That's all you really need to know if you've not seen it. Barely even changed pants. He comes in with his pants. He was forced. He was forced to change pants. He showed up in the same pants and they were like,

we're going to do different pants. And he tried to just get out of it and be like, I'll take the jacket. And they were like, you're going to wear the pants. The vibe of the pants were the same. Well, I felt like he was upset that he got in the new clothes, but then later on he seemed to be really much like, I got to get my jacket back. I like these clothes now.

Fuck this movie. I'm mad. I'm mad at you guys for making me watching it. Yeah, fuck you. You thought, you thought. You thought something exciting was happening to you. Instead, you're being punished. I remember a supreme disappointment in the theater watching this movie.

Like, I felt like I was like, I was like, I was like, I'm going to go see Escape from L.A. Oh. And the only thing that, the only thing that. Oh. You were attracted. You already, yeah. I was fucking the box. I was fucking the box.

You planned on fucking the box before you even got to the theater? You were fucking the box of Escape from New York being like, I'm going to see escape from L. You fucking dirty little bitch. Maybe you can't be out of one eye, but you'll see this dick going in this cover box. I fuck you, but I take the other one out to the movies. Well, I gotta say, though, but this movie, we can all say that Escape from New York is like a classic cult movie.

Home run movie. Right, great. Excuse me? Escape from New York. Yeah. Amazing movie. I guess I'm just so young, Jason. I agree.

I think that... Oh boy, here's how it starts. I think I'm in the middle of the two of you because it was cool, it was of the time, but rewatching it now, not like... That's the high part. Home run. Still?

No. Terrible. It's like the thing or something like that. I know they're like... Flawless. Flawless. I had never seen... You watched them both back to back. I watched them back to back,

and I had never seen Escape from New York. So I watched Escape from New York being like, this not good. and then I watched Escape from LA and I was like, oh no, no, no, that was great. Yeah. This is terrible. The only, and I see what you mean,

except for that Escape from New York is fantastic. To this day? Yeah, I watched it like last year, and I was like, holds up. All right. But now, run, I might as well be watching Face Off or Con Air. Oh, no.

This is a... Whoa! Face Off. I think it's that... No, no. I think a Faceoff. No, not the Faceoff. Much better. Face off is better than every one of them.

Face off is great. Faceoff? Yeah. Faceoff? Okay, what is better than face off? Nothing. You get it. I love face off. I would argue that Fast and Furious one where they have the safe attached to the car is up there.

Or five? Six? Six. Brazil? Five? Oh, yeah, because four is the serious one. Then five, they're like, oh shit, this is what we should do. And now they've had fucking submarines.

Remember when we lost Giselle? Is that a movie? No, it's a character. No, it's a character. In the festival. Gail's the dough. Her hand. Wonder Woman? Remember when Wonder Woman was Giselle and she done?

She, I guess she is. I saw her in a full Whole Foods recently. She looked alive. She only answered. I was like, Giselle! Are you getting sushi? All right, so you watch Escape from New York and Escape from L.A. back to back.

So I want to just talk about that experience. in the moment because they are the same movie, right? They are the same movie. They're the same movie. It's like a, there's like a formula, and they just like placed in different characters and different, like. So, and at the end, how does Escape from New York end?

He gets his freedom. Yeah. This movie hypothesizes that he just kind of goes to Cleveland. Yeah. Yeah. They keep referencing Cleveland. We know you were in Cleveland. Guys, I will straight up personally finance escape from Cleveland.

It needs to have. Actually, that's the way to, like, get this back. It is not at all a bad idea. But isn't that everyone who lives in Cleveland just trying to escape Cleveland? You know, the whole reason why they reference Cleveland is it's an in-joke from a friend of John Carpenter's who knew a guy from Cleveland named Snake Pliskin. Jesus Christ. Oh, really? Whoa, that's a big joke for that guy.

Yeah. Giant. Because it's not even like a guy named Snake. It's a guy named Snake Pliskin. That guy's life is like kind of fucked now. Or is it the best life ever, yeah. Oh, yeah. I totally fucked Snake Plisbee.

But here's, is my... Kurt Russell, you mean? No, the guy that it's based on. A real scuzzy, a real scuzzback. That's like the guy that's the, the guy that was Kramer. Oh, yeah. Running the real tours. He's like giving tours around Cleveland.

I'm the real snake Pliskin. I never escaped from anything. Hey, look at me. Except paying my alimony check, ha-ha. Anyways, this bus travel costs $50. I watched the movie two nights ago and I cannot remember how New York ended. How did it end?

Oh, how about this? Nerds? How does it escape from New York? How did it end? What is it? Yeah, you can tell us. You can have a spoiler. Just spoil New York.

Let me come to you because I don't think your voice will carry in the pocket. If this is the same guy from the last show, I'm going to punch him right in the dick. Who are you? All right. This guy is wearing a Pliskin shirt. This is it. Yeah.

Okay, here we go. Yeah, it gets it. Much like this movie, he's asked to retrieve something. And, of course, he kind of fucks with everybody at the end. I don't want to spoil. No, do you spoil. Spoil. Spoil the first one.

Okay, in this one, he may or may not fuck with everybody, but he does do that. In the previous, he's asked to get a tape. Right. A cassette tape. Right. You know, early 80s. It's a mixed tape. It's a song.

No, it is. It's a love tape for his girlfriend. It's just smash mouth. Right. That's our body, guys. Exactly like he flips out. Exactly the same and he kind of walks away. The president in that movie is proudly playing the tape.

Right. It's supposed to be the secret to clean energy and it's going to change the world. And it ends up being the Cabby's character. Oh, Cabby. Steve Bouchemy analog from the first. Wow, they really copied it down. It was exactly the same.

And he walks away and you see him pulling the tape out of the other one. He's going to screw over the system of the government. That's right. Oh, that's right. God damn, it's so boring. Wow. Well, it's fucking great. And then the only other, the only other question I have, though, too, besides the movies being exactly the same, besides for different coasts, is, does he look any fucking older than the...

No. He looks exactly the same. It's crazy. He looks so good. I mean, the best part of both movies. is how fucking hot he is. By the way, by the way, he is very...

He's still that hot. He looks great. He was in, like, Furious 8 or whatever. Yeah. Right? Yeah. It was the last one.

Looks great. Jason, I did a show in Telluride. They were shooting the... Hateful 8? Hateful 8 there. Any of that crazy-ass fucking beard and mustache... Still great.

Looks fucking great. He looks great. He looks amazing. No. He did not. He left. Real quick. Real quick.

Was not up for a good old fuck around improv show. I don't mean to like objectify him and I'm sorry to like keep talking about SCX and stuff like that. No it's a fun. But I think I realized while I was watching this movie that maybe Kurt Russell is the first dude I

ever wanted to fuck like as a kid. Me too. And not just like I have a crush on him. From the computer who wore tennis shoes. Maybe like from overboard or something where I was like it wasn't just like I have a crush on him I was like I don't want to fuck that guy. Yeah. Right? And I think that these movies, so I think I wanted to fuck Kurt Russell my whole life.

I think watching these movies make me not want to fuck them at all. Whoa. Whoa. The old reversal, the quality of these movies bring down his fuckability. Yes, I do think that. Hang on. Ladies, agree or disagree. Or men.

Wait on. Or men. Wait. Yeah. First of all. Who? No. Fight.

No. He's. Kiss. Kiss. Kiss. Kiss. Kiss. He has great arms.

He's wearing a. Cape-like jacket. He looks great. By the way, he's in the same, literally the same costume he wore 15 years earlier. So his body is not changed. Those arms?

Yeah. He looks incredible. And that, I mean, he does have like a rapy kind of voice, though. That's, that's... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What? Come on.

Pliskin. No way. Pliskin's all about consent. My favorite thing about Snake was... Are you guys cool? Are you guys best friends? Well, he told me to call him Snake. Wait, the...

Kurt Russell? Kurt Russell? Plotsnitz. That was with a B. Plotnick. Snake Plotnick. Snake Plotnick. There's just a moment where...

Comedy Plotnick. Where they're flying into Disneyland at the end of the movie. By. By the way, he's a very long extension of L.A. Like, I felt like... All the way to Anaheim. And...

Well, that's a real big break. They didn't even see... That's what like, yeah. They don't say it because they can't say it. Of course, right. But then Snake is like, is that what I think it is? And I just like the snake knows about Disney. That character does not seem like you would know.

So what kind of ride do they have there? Yeah, that's what I thought. The ghost get in the car with you at the end. Trippy. Yeah. Snake was like the guy who wrote the Thomas guide. Like that's kind of who he is. No, and that wasn't funny.

It's a very young audience. Very young. You guys have ways. Fuck you. I'm 35. Very hot. I do, but I do think the beginning of this movie,

I was like, oh, wow, for this day and age, it was, it seems more in line for what would be happening right now. It's like this island of deplorables and it's like,

you know, and, and, but I guess like Cliff Robertson's more of like a preacher, although I don't really understand how an earthquake in California has installed a new president. Yeah.

Right, right. I love him, a president for life. Oh yeah. He is president for life. Yeah, that was scary, right? Because it doesn't seem like most of the country is affected.

It's like, New York's already an island. Right. Then the other earthquake happens, then there's another island. And he's like, now I'm going to be president for life. I'm nervous that as long as Snake Pliskin is alive, more and more of America will become island. That's what's concerning to me.

I kind of like that. I like Coanga Beach, though. That seemed really cool. Welcome to California. Pohanga Beach. Do you feel like maybe that snake can't die? Is he an immortal? You think he's a highlander?

I feel like there's just a tiny, I feel like they didn't, I mean, if that was true, they'd probably get into it more, but it was like, dude can't die. I feel like they kept saying, I thought you were dead. Shoot automatic weapons at him from very close distances and miss him entirely. Yeah. Except for the one time that Steve Bishemi fires a gun during an earthquake. and manages to wing him. Which I think is only done because he gets hit in the leg in the first movie.

Right. So it's like we got to balance it out. The first movie got it. Yeah. They should have gone for his other eye. Like that's what I would do if I was trying to kill him. By the way, this movie, if his patch changed eyes throughout, it would be fine. No one would even come in.

I did find it interesting, though, because everyone who is shooting at him or chasing him, they give up real easy. Like, at one point he runs out in front of the building, goes into like a manhole. and the guy's like, all right. Yeah. Not only that, those guys, those are the guys in robes.

Yeah. They run away in the opposite direction as if he's still shooting at them. Oh, man alive. Well, let's just see the opening here. This is, uh... I want to talk about Cuervo Jones.

Oh, yeah. There is so much... And Taslima. Is that how you say your name? I think so. I want to talk about, Oh, yeah, go ahead. I'll just make the opening to set the scene of how it all went down here.

Here we go. In the late 20th century, hostile forces inside the United States grow strong. The city of Los Angeles is ravaged by crime and immorality. To protect and defended citizens, the United States police force is formed. An earthquake measuring 9.6 on the Richter scale hits at 1259. P.M. August 23rd in the year 2000. After the devastation, the Constitution is amended and the newly elected president accepts a lifetime term of office. Los Angeles Island is declared no longer part of the United States and becomes the deportation point for all people found undesirable or unfit to live in the new

moral America. That's a fuckload of exposition. That's a lot. Like even watching it now, it's like, Wow, I didn't even remember it being that dense. It's a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like they should have saved money on, like, all those car accidents and worked more with the green screen. Because I feel like that, those car accidents were, seemed expensive. Well, first of all, the car accidents in this movie are done like a Star Trek battle bridge scene.

Like, it's the camera's doing 90% of the earthquake work. Yeah, for sure. In Earthquoise. Crazy earthquake. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Throughout the movie, every time there was like a tremor or whatever, it was always like the camera. Shake that camera.

Yeah, yeah. And the poor actors were like, uh, whoa. Oh, no. What do you think about the special effects in this movie?

Flawless. I could not tell when they were being utilized. This movie is arguably one of the worst special effects I've ever seen. Shame.

What about that shark, though? That looked real. I mean, that, that was another interesting thing about watching the back-to-back is that even though the first one was made, what, 10 years before? More probably.

Yeah, 15 something. The special effects works so much better in the first one than the second one. Well, this feels like the George Lucas School of Special Effects. There's special effects for no reason. But now here's the fact that kind of blew me away. This and Jurassic Park came out in the same year. What? You're lying.

And this had a budget of 50 million. And Jurassic Park had a budget of 65. Oh my God. Different. Not much. Do you think Kurt Russell was like walking around the step and like they're making dinosaurs over there. Wait to see this fucking shark.

Do you think they, do you think John Carpenter saw Jurassic Park and was like, uh-oh? You guys, I'm going to tell you something really quick about when I saw Jurassic Park, I was in junior high. Sure. I wasn't a dumb dumb, but I was in junior high. And when I watched it during the like, you know, the scene where he like takes her head and he's like, you know, the bronosaurus scene, look at that. I had a thought in my little, like, junior high head, like, oh. I'm going to fuck Kurt Russell.

I'm going to fuck this dinosaur. No, I thought, like, oh, my God, I guess there really are dinosaurs somewhere. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. So you were stupid real down. No, no. No, no. No, you're like, school.

No, I did not say high school. I said junior high. Junior high is a teenager. Okay. The young side of junior high. So you're 13, and you're thinking dinosaurs are real? No, but no, but I agree with you. They looked so real, like, and you'd never had seen anything like it.

And it holds up to this day. It looks great. It looks great. This movie does not hold up. No, no, no, no. It didn't hold up then. That movie had barely made it to the theater. Yeah, yeah.

But apparently they hired a graphic house that never did special effects before. Oh, man. That's very clear. That's so funny. They never did it. They're, yeah, these guys, we were behind them. So it seemed to me like just a bunch of people in a room just going, ah, shit, shit.

But by the way, Universal Studios there. Fuck, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In a movie where there's a character named Cuervo Jones, they're doing just fine. I would argue that they're doing work up to the level of the script. Yeah, the script is so bad. Look at, look at the, this is, um,

there's some of the. There's universal. Universal Studios. By the way, so the joke in this is that he's in a submarine and he's in a submarine and then Jaws, the shark jaws almost eat the submarine. As if, to your point, Jaws has kept, the real shark is kept at Universal Studios

and the earthquake simply let him go free. Not that Jaws, that Universal is a... I didn't even make that connection. Oh, I think that was... I just thought there was a shark in the water. Yeah, me too. I thought it was a... No idea.

No, I think you're right. Clearly to go to Universal. Yeah, yeah. And then this. Why is he able to fly or drive any device or machine? Because he's Snake Plitkin, the most famous man in the world. What's his name? Pliskin.

This name is a real hurdle for us. Clixkin. Snake. Pliskin. Pliskin. Slake Piltskin. Slake Piltskin. Slake Pliskin. Pliskin.

Pliskin. Snake Pliskin. Look, the problem, his name is the leaf. of our worries. By the way... Pliskin. Plyskine. Ew.

There's no tea in it? Plit. Plitkin. Like clitkin? Plitkin. Pliskin. It's plitskin. It's technically...

It plitskin's on the lotion on itself. It rubs the plitskin on it. It rubs the lotion on its plit skin. Just turn down the lights for a second. And people, if you're listening while driving, close your eyes. And just picture this. This is the worst CGI scene right here. You can just see it.

just see it. That's it. It looks like... What is it? This is a... Just C.I. That's... Yeah. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ew! It's so... It's not even video games of the time were that bad. It's the level of the VR in lawnmower man. It's... But yet the VR that they posit in this movie makes no sense. Well, that's just like video quality...

You mean, like, when he goes into, like... The girls... where Ray Ann is doing, stealing the black box? Yes. Yeah. Well, he goes in there and then there's a camera in the room that was taping her, but then who was taping the other? Who was making the VR tape?

Where are the other 500 cameras that must be covering every bit of the room? Oh, boy. No, none. And he seemingly just kind of, like, it's, I don't know, his reaction to VR. He also seemed unfazed. Yeah. He was like, well, I guess I'm in virtual reality. Again.

He knows about Disney. He's into virtual reality. He writes for a tech blog. It's all what Snake Plotkin does. Plotkin. Plotkin. I love... What's...

What's happening? What's happening? What are we doing right now? Someone yelled hot shot. Maybe plot shot. What do we think? Hot shot. Maybe that's a basketball reference later on the movie.

We'll get to it. Let's get to that basketball scene. I want to get to it. I want to also just say, like, I love... Well, Quervo Jones. We're first introduced to Quervo Jones. I don't hate him. You are like horny for the guys.

I know. I'm normal horny. I'm normal horny. I'm normal horny, Darcy Cardin. Wait, so your fuckability of Kurt Russell goes down, but that Quervo Jones goes up? Well, Quervo Jones does this thing when you first introduced him where he's throwing a dove.

And the dove clearly was not That's from virtual reality as well. Yes, he's right. And so he throws this dove, and I think the idea would be he throws a dove and it goes up. He did have a magician vibe to me. I had to rewind that.

I did not understand what was happening. I had to go back because I couldn't even understand what was happening. What they were saying was she was communicating to him over like these video messages. She had become isolated and lonely. Right.

And Cuervo Jones. The Cuervo Jones. Did anybody else think of the silly dance song every time they said Quirvo Jones anyway and that he was

invading Ray Ann's she'll AJ Langra will only be Ray Ann from my so-called life forever yeah it was hard to get past that

wait do people not know that she's Ray Ann? You know that right okay yeah she had the funky hair and it's super cool the best

like the best she's the best she did oh yeah oh yeah Come on. Come on. Anyway, he was communicating to it.

That's how they feel like he got to her, was through her VR. Well, interesting thing about Utopia, her character's name, Uttoria. Oh, but wait, but the dove was not participating. So he goes to toss the dove up, but the dove just goes down. And they replay it so many times that you can't not notice the dove going like, It is the least impressive romantic gesture you can do. It's like pulling a dead rabbit out of your hat.

Here's the odd thing about this. Goldie Hawn was supposed to be Utopia. What? On Earth, are you talking about? But she was in the hospital during some of the shooting of this for... That's not possible. Tio, Tio, Tio. I know, that makes no sense.

Hold on. I'll get there. Hot shot! Hey. Hot shot. Hot shot. Hot shot. Everyone comes down. This crowd is getting out of control.

Ooh, the lake crowd is wasted. Plotskin. They're hammered and rowdy. Set the shit up and then I bring it home. And then they auditioned Kate Hudson. What? Who? Who?

Who. Yes. So he wanted it to be Goldie Hawn. He wanted it to be Goldie Hawn. She couldn't do it. And they're like, well, let's audition my daughter to do it. And then she didn't get it. He must have been so pissed.

She must have been very young, though, at the time. Yeah, she must have been, well. I feel like she would have been very young. She would have been like. She could do it. She's seven. I bet you. What year did this come out?

I bet you utopia would have been the president's wife if it was the other way. Yeah. I bet that's true. What year did this come out again? 96. So she would have been like 15, 16? Yeah. Yeah.

That's about normal. That would be about right. I'd be like that would mean, she could do it. Yeah. Kate could do it. Kate could do it. She said call her Kate. Kate could do it.

And it's not, and utopia and utopia and Plotskin didn't have like a sexy relationship. No. So that would have been okay. She seemed to be engaged entirely with Quervo Jones. The Cuevo Jones. That would have been so mad. They get, after Snake takes a submarine to L.A., one of the first things he sees in L.A. is the most peaceful drive-by shooting

I've ever seen. It's like two leisurely cars. It's like, pop-b-pop, pop-pah, pop-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-r. Right. A great day for a drive-by. And that and Peter Fonda. Oh.

Whoa. Right? Peter Fonda? Someone just said oof, and that is so true. An audible oof. And that is so true. It was so... It's embarrassing.

That is an embarrassing. I had to, like, look up Peter Fonda because I was like, don't we respect him as an actor? And I believe, was this is like, I feel like this is like part of Peter Fonda's comeback. Wait, what did you find out? Where it is? You do?

I think we do. Yeah, no, he was redeemed. He's pretty respectable. Yeah. Where did, where did you find Peter Fonda's fuckability? I don't, I'm normal horny. I don't want to just fuck things. But queer about Peter Fonda is not a thing.

suggesting things. Movie star. I'm not attracted to Peter Fonda. Nobody's suggesting. Peter Fonda, no. Kurt Russell was but not. Quervo Jones didn't know now into Peter Fonda

always not. Always not. Are you attracted to to Peter Fonda? No, not at all. I'm glad he's a great guy. Does he listen to the podcast? You know him? Yeah, he does.

Peter Fonder has actually been on the podcast via an interview that someone, a friend of the show. Thank you. I have Peter Fonda, a friend of the show. So much audience participation, guys. Hot shot.

Shut it down. Hot shot. Hot shot. Shut your mouth. Friend of the show. All right. So Snake is in L.A. Well, there's so much stuff going on.

Stacey Keech. And Michelle Forbes, so I think is always always great. Vilema. Is that he say her name? Oh, yeah, yeah. No. Telima. Tesla?

What's her name? Talisima. Her name is. Talisima. Telisima, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, wait, no. That's, wait, no, her name, hold on.

That's Valerie Galino is Talisima. We're talking Hot Shots girl? Hot Shots girl is Brazen. Oh, is that why you said Hot Shots? Because she's in Hotshots. But wait, had we even talked about her yet? Or you're just like, get to the girl from Hotschottschup. Talk about the girl.

They fry it a egg on her stomach. I'm a nerd in a podcast, but I want to talk about the girl. Hot Shots is a deep dive. for Michelle Forbes. It's like she's also been... No, not Michelle Forbes. Isn't it Valerie Galena? Oh, Valerie Galena.

Yes, you're right. That's hot shots. It isn't a deep dive, right? No, that's it probably from that. No, no, I think she's actually done a ton. Hot shots. Hot shots. Now is when you guys yell it out.

Hot shots. Yeah, there you go. Oh, someone's fight. Fight each other. Kids. Kate Hudson. All right. So, one of the things they love about movies like this is.

is obviously they're making some big leaps in what technology would be. 1996, hard to predict what would be, you know, the future. But what I do love is when they just miss one thing. Like, Stacey Keech has a very big microphone. Like everything else is like very tiny and like little devices. But he's like, he's talking on a microphone the size of this. Like, hey, snake. Be careful of the UP race.

The ozone. That's what they're so scared about. They are, they are. Well, we were talking about this, like, a little bit back. That was, I guess, the fear in 1996 was the ozone. Especially, I think, in L.A. It was always, like, pollution. L.A. is, like, so smoggy, pollution.

You're going to get in this zone where you're going to get, I guess... Cancer? Yeah. I mean, they don't really talk about the effects of UV rays. Oh, nor do they talk about the effects of the acid rain that's apparently... Oh, yeah, that's right. Raining da Pidafund is like, you've got to put the hood up. Snakes like, I'm cool.

Oh, yeah. He's got a luxury. head of hair. He doesn't even. Not only that, but he falls into a sewer that must be full of acid rain. Like, why is it? He should be so dead,

except he's such an undeniable hunk. That's what I'm saying. He can't die. The man can't die. Maybe he's the hologram the entire time. Well, see, that's, then when he, when, not to cut to the end, but here I go, when the explosion happens

and he walks out, I'm like, oh, dude's a vampire. Something, something. I was like, he can't die. This man can't die. And then he's a fucking hologram. It's funny. a vampire because

it was interesting one side of this was that they thought this was going to be a huge franchise for Snake Pliskin. So it's going to be escape from New York, escape from L.A., escape from Mars. That was the third one.

And then John Carver was like, well, I guess people don't like Snake Pliskin anymore. So he just made vampires from Mars. Like he's made like a movie. Wait, there's a movie called Vampires for Mars? Are right or wrong? It's like a ghost Ghosts of Mars. Ghosts of Mars.

Are there vampires not? Should we do that? Yeah. Is it good? No. Do it here? I mean, is it good for us? Not even for this.

Interesting. So he thinks just it was Snake Pliskin, that was the problem. He's like, it's not the world that I've created. It's like, they've just given up on that character. I think it is, I do think, I mean, no disrespect, I guess all disrespect to Kurt Russell. But, like, it ain't good. Like, he's great and we love him. but like that is, it's not good.

It's just a voice, right? There's nothing more to his character. There's not a lot of levels to say, there's nothing more. I feel like he's trying to do, I feel like this for him is his version of, he thinks he's doing his version of Clint Eastwood's man with no name.

Right. You know, like, just like a few lines of dialogue, gruff voice, no emotional involvement, nothing. Why doesn't, it doesn't work, though, in this. Well, I feel like this one is like Because it becomes a little jockey too Yeah, well once he gets in the submarine That's sort of the problem

We've already talked about that Once he gets to L.A. Once he gets to L.A. It starts off like, oh yeah He does start off as a badass I'm like I like him there But just like everybody else Once he gets to L.A.

Fucking changes Changes. He totally loses his edge. He becomes an L.A. asshole Totally changes. It is kind of about that, right? Yeah, I mean it is a metaphor for a lot of things

For sure making like a big comment He almost gets a bunch of plastic surgery. The plastic surgery. Bruce Campbell. Right. I hated that scene. That scene made me feel ill. I don't like scenes like that.

I don't like that scene from Brazil where they take Mona from the boss's face and pull it. I thought of that too. I thought that. I actually loved that scene. I loved the scene where it was like all the plastic surgery. And I was like, people really look like this now. Yeah. This is like reality.

television. I'm looking at real housewives. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah, that's the right assholes. I knew, though, as this scene was happening, I was like, he's going to grab her boobs and say those are real. I knew. I knew what's going to happen. I knew it, and then he did it, and it was so great. I had a problem with his sensitive direction.

You're pervert ESP. Grabber boobs. Oh, I bet this broad's about to get felt up by a weirdo. Ooh. Hey, babe, I was right. They are real. I just knew as like a cheesy way, not as like, oh yeah, let's grab some fucking weird tits. But he, I felt like his sense of direction in L.A. was also kind of off too.

He had to go to the Hollywood Bowl, right? But then he walked by Capitol Records and then he walked by Man's Chinese Theater. And he's like, where's the Hollywood Bowl? It's like, yeah, you passed it. You were closer. You were already there. He was on Coanga Beach. Yeah.

At Coahuangue Beach, he landed at the Hollywood Bowl. And then he headed the Hollywood Bowl. Yeah, he walked away. Come on. He passed it. He passed it. Yeah. I mean, that's a tiny problem.

They should have given him a Thomas guy. What's occurring to me is that this movie is the original, like they give him a disease, or a virus, rather, and are like, you have 10 hours, blah, blah, blah. This is the original crank. I guess you're right. This is the same, like, crank is the same storyline. We're going to do something to you. fuck you up and as a result you're going to have to do what we want you to do. As someone who

loves crank, that's really fucked up. But there seems to be no driving force because in crank stays in like fuck and then this he's like, man. Well that's the thing is they've given him something that arguably makes him less likely to succeed.

That's the funny. They're like you're going to basically be really tired. Yeah. You're just going to get closer and closer to die. He just has mono, basically. He doesn't care. He doesn't care. It's such a funny thing to give him.

He's not that stressed about this horrible disease all the time. Just walking around, trying to kill people. You think he would just want to be stressed about it. Are you snake Pliskin? Why is he so famous? He's so famous. He's so famous. He's so famous.

He gets to L.A. and he's so famous. Aren't you snake Pliskin? Literally what, literally, like what could he do? Apparently, whatever he did in Cleveland, Everybody was like, oh shit. Which seems to really be... It seems to really be like petty shit. Right.

It's like, because he's hanging out with a car thief, Hershey. Oh, I didn't even realize her she. Oh my God, I didn't either. I didn't either. I thought it was like a bad black pun. I did too. And now I realize it's a terrible other pun. Pam Greer was like, she kind of was dope in this movie.

I like Pam Greer. Anytime. Pam Greer on a hang glider with a machine gun. Home run movie. A plus. Five stars. Anybody hanging out.

That hand gliding scene, again, it's a low-impact thing. It's like, it's like, gliding. Like, there are, they are in such close problems. proximity to people shooting machine guns at them? Not a single, yeah.

None of them are shot. Yeah. No bodies, no hang glides. Zero. Yeah. The only time made sense from the beginning when he shot them and they're like, oh, those are blanks.

Oh, yeah. That was even... That was retarded. I thought you might try that. You did? Yeah. You know what? Make sure he's got this,

but make sure he's got one clip of blanks. Make sure that's the clip that's in the gun because he's definitely going to try and shoot us. We've already fooled him with the hologram thing, so we can't do that again. That went like this. They were holograms. And then in the next scene,

they weren't holograms, but they introduced him to all of the weapon. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then the next scene... That's... That's right. He's like, well, now he doesn't know,

are there blanks or not blanks? They gave him his own guns. Right. Yeah. So what if he, instead of being like, had just been like, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. They'd be Deadsville. Yeah, and end of movie.

Credits. By the way, that would have been the best. John Carpenter is stealing $60 million. It's a four-minute movie. Most of his narration at the top done by... Steve Bishemi's in this movie. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the bouch is loose.

The bouch is loose. He comes in as a character that I can't describe. He's an agent. Yeah. Wait, what? But, I mean, he's really, I mean, he's like the map to the stars guy. The map to the stars that reveals he's an agent. He's like, we're going to make a lot of money snake.

But where? There's no more, there's no more. Show business is underwater. He's a terrible agent. Well, the shark is, yeah, the shark is even out of work. I mean, the shark is trying to eat submarines. But the, but, like, what is he representing in the deplorable world? I think he was, like, he was, like, sneaking in being an agent.

I don't think he was really an agent. I think he was, I think he was, like, a scammer. artist, right? He was just like, he was trying to make a damn buck. That's the impression I got that he was like he was going to give him the most access. So he was just lying about his own profession. At first I thought he was going to be like Cabby from the first movie,

but he was not like Cabby. I thought he was going to be like a sweet old, you know, dummy. I was hoping that he was going to get excited and sent Snake out for pilot season. Here, here's some sides, read this. What do you think you can play? How old can you play? I can pull off 18.

Snake, you're up against Quervo Jones for this role. To remake the bosom buddies, you'll play Balke. Wait, bosom buddies is

Balke. That's right. You're a terrible agent. You're a terrible agent. This is, this is ridiculous. No, do it more than Xxed.

Everybody knows that Balchie is from perfect strangers. Not bosom buddies. Quervo Jones. Balkee Bartakamus. Yeah. It's the reason I got into acting everybody.

No. You are from Mipos, right? I can do this. I got this. Your family is from Mipos, right? Yes, we are from Mipos. We came over on the boat from Mipos. With a sign that said USA or burst.

Yep. I was like, if Belke can make it in L.A., I can make it in L.A. And look at you. Look at me. Don't look at me. You're standing tall, Jason, on the way to your dreams. That show was on Tuesdays and Thursdays. By the way, perfect strangers was on twice a week.

F-Y-I. New shows? Imagine just pumping out perfect strangers like that. That's crazy. Crazy. Tuesdays and Thursday? I watched it all the time. Anyways, that's a side note.

I will say this. A network did develop a very perfect strangers type show that I did the table read for as the foreign cousin. Really? And I was like, this is where I'm at. This was a long time ago, but I was like, yeah. It makes sense that I'm playing the balkey part. Right, right, right.

Guys, my life is great. Not toss and lad. Jason is, is that character with us tonight? Huh? Go to hell. You can watch him in The Dictator. The basketball sequence. Yeah, let's talk about that.

This is, this is amazing. Yeah. We also, I also want to talk about when Valerie Galena hits on Snake Pliskin is like, I basically, she's basically like, I want to make you feel good. And then she goes, my boyfriend and I broke up tonight. Yeah, tonight. Tonight. Right before we were kidnapped.

I want you to come home. Yeah. She's a little bit, I don't want to be like, you know, but she seems, it's a little bit slutty a little bit, right? I mean, she just breaks up. Dan, I'm not going to slut shame her at all. I don't want to. I don't want a lovely girl. She's a doubt out.

She's beautiful. She's beautiful person. Why do we need to know that she and her boyfriend broke up? So it's pure. She didn't see her boyfriend. She could just be single. It also seems like a lie. It's like a very aggressive thing to tell someone, like,

broke up tonight. She was just being honest. I'm into it. Well, Snake has to, you know, do a challenge. This is where, this is my love-hate relationship with this movie because I applaud the insanity of it. Like, it's like, okay, his challenge is to make 10 points on a full-size basketball court.

So he's got to make a basket. Every 10 seconds. Every 10 seconds run to another. So he's got to run up and down the court. So it's a little bit of like a cardio exercise. And Queervo Jones at one point goes, he's getting tired now. I was like, no, not really.

But he's shooting baskets in the person before him. He chops someone's head off in front of him. Do I hate that. And through his face. And he's like, now you will play basketball. Here's the other thing. Here's the other thing. The basketball court is enclosed in fence, right?

And there are gunmen all around it, shooting the one person on the court, a.k.a. shooting each other today. Why did they know what it does? There's no collateral damage. The same thing happens at the end of the movie. Yes, it does, Jason. They encircle the hologram, which we don't know is a hologram. And they're all like, they totally saw that.

Everybody would be killing it. Everybody's so stupid in this room. Really, when he was on the fence, when he was on the fence, when he was shot at him so much, that was the one time we were like, he's dead now. Right, right.

When they did this circle, like when all the guys were shooting him in the middle of the basketball court, I truly, the words in my head were like, how did this get made? But there was, but here's my, here's my thought too, is like, you can, it's not real, right?

We all can agree with that. Wait, this wasn't a documentary? This is real, this is real, Paul. This was a reality. This was a documentary. Shot in the year, 2013. It was not real. But no, like, so at a certain point, someone would have to be like, huh,

maybe we should put him in a circle. Like, it wasn't like, we had, oh, we had to put him in a circle. Like, there's no reason for any of it. And even, like, by the part where he's, like, climbing over the fence and, and Cuervo's getting his gun, like, well, just think it more cumbersome. Like, I make him not get the gun so quickly. But he gets the gun quickly. Boom, boom, boom.

Now I'm just going to hold it here. and I won't do anything. That awesome shot of the red circle around him. Yeah, for a long time. Very long time. As a director, you could at least maybe cut that scene tighter. Totally. Like, oh, he just missed him.

Nope. I'm going to leave that red dot on him. He had the perfect shot for seconds. Oh, yeah. That's where you thought the director was going to take control of the movie in that moment. And also, there is a stadium full of armed people. Right. He also could just be like, shoot him.

Yeah. Shoot him. If you ever watch him. Don't do this, but go back and watch that scene because they're all kind of like waving their guns there. A lot of them are like rubber and they're just kind of like doing, they're going like, well they have been won over. They've been won over by an amazing basketball performance and we know it's amazing because they put it in slow-mo.

This is, and by the, and Kurt Russell made all these shots himself. And he was one of the writers of this movie, right? Yes, he was. He just wanted to show off his basketball skills. First and only writer's credit and apparently his real addition to it. was the ending, which would be the only thing that would be slightly different. I gotta play basketball in this movie.

Yeah, this is some of the best basketball. Okay, Ryan Graff is standing up. Why does he make eye contact with him? Because he's like, look what's gonna have. You're wasting time, bro. In these seconds, he could have moved. I know. And in the he said he gave me a girl.

It would have been great if he missed. Do you know how many people could do this? that. Like, nobody would ever die in that challenge. Because it would be easy. Okay, well, according to Cuervo, every fucking person died in that challenge. And by the way, why is there such a big crowd if everyone's dying?

He'd be like, well, I guess they're just going to execute somebody after they make six points. Like, I mean, it's like, it doesn't seem like they're not playing against each other. Like, there's no, like, that's the undefeated team. Like, you got to play the big man. And all of a sudden, like, Shaquille O'Neal makes an acting appearance, you know? Great. He's, like, covered head to tone.

some sort of steel, not his costume steel from the movie steel. But, uh, wait, he's just wearing steel, unrelated to his performance in the movie steel? Yeah, just to give him something a little fun to wear. Oh, that seems confusing. Yeah, sort of armor. Old school knight's armor, like from Martin Lawrence Black Knight. What? To play basketball?

Who knows? It's the future. It seems like it's a steel tie in. Kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss. But maybe he's like, you know, got a big hammer, like that character's steel, but it's not related to... This again seems like steel. I don't know.

And, you know, people call me hero and whatever. It's no big deal. That is for sure steel. Now, I'm no weatherman, but that was a lame tsunami. Hold up. What? Well, not professionally. Amateur meteorologists.

You bet. But no, that tsunami that they prepare for didn't seem to be that. It actually kind of seemed nice. The one that Peter Fonda was like, tsunami, bro. Snake is able to surf the tsunami with a bullet in his leg, so it can't have been that bad. And have small talk and high five.

And jump on the back of Steve Buscemi's car. He loves a jumping on a car. Oh my God. How did this scene happen? This scene is out of fucking control. And still no mention of his sickness that he's dying so soon. Right, right. Yeah.

You think he'd be like, oh, I really got to solve this whole thing. Well, you know, he did cough a lot. That's true. Throughout just like. I noticed that they would ADR cops in a lot. But here's the thing. Spoiler alert. It's not really a poison.

Who, wait. Is this for this movie? Oh. Okay, go ahead. Wait, no, no, you saw it. But no, he was never sick. So Snake is like a psychosomatic kind of character. Like, he thinks him the flu, they said.

Oh, okay. Oh, right. That's true. That's true. It was the equivalent of the flu. They were like, you fucking idiot. You have the flu. You dumb shit.

You fell for it, you idiot. It's so funny if he had to blow his nose throughout the entire movie. The most unattractive, like, like, was, like, is, like, is, like, are you getting in?

You just had a diary. Can I get some emergency? Yeah. It would be amazing if he just got diarrhea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, we just gave you diarrhea. You ain't gonna die. He's like, we gotta surf this shit out.

And he's like, for those of you at home, Jason's pretending to serve. And just the idea of someone agrees with like that is a smart idea. Like, yeah, we got to give him diarrhea, guys. He's going to be shot, but he's knocking nose because he's to have explosive diarrhea. They came up on him so quickly when he first landed there, like, and he gets captured. Like, he's dead.

Wait, just give him a second. Here's the, here's the, and I love Snake Blisskin. I love Escape from New York. He's a fucking idiot in this movie. Every move he makes from the minute he maxes out the sub. Why did he caught? Why? Why did he act?

Why did he do that? Why crash the sub? Why do everything? Every step of the way? He's caught by everyone. Because everyone knows shit. Oh, snake. Everyone catches him.

Yeah. Everyone knows him. Everywhere he goes. Snake Bliskin. And he's basically like, where's Cuervo Jones? Bang, bang, bang, bang. He's like, the least subtle. Right.

Least effective. And everyone's like, oh, you're shorter than I thought you were. Yeah. Which I liked as a runner. Sure. Like you're a tiny hunk of a man. Right, right, right. Right.

Oh, yeah, yeah. But he, and but I guess my question is too, like, he, I guess he's never at peace, Snake. You know, he. Why did they put him on the treadmill? It's L.A., baby. It's L.A. Maybe they thought there would be a basketball game coming up in his future. He ended that cardio great.

Was it to warm him up? Like, honestly, why did they put him on the treadmill? Like, that scene where the... He's got a fill of insurance pay. It's paperwork. Hey, before we put you in this execution scenario, we got to make sure

you are physical test. We got to do a stress test on your heart. When they got to Cuervo Jones talking to the world, like I'm going to do this thing and I've got the button

and blah, blah, blah, and snake blisket is just in the background. And that's how they realize it's so live. And Stacey Keech is like, wait a minute, that's snake pliskin. Why is he on a treadmill?

I don't know. He's doing a turkey truck. I don't know why they put him on that But the other thing about it is like he, I feel like this is what the problem of the whole movie is. It's written by someone who was doing some sort of drugs and there's like elements of it that's like, yeah, this fucking going to be great.

And then these other part is like, put him on fucking treadmill. Put him in a hand glider. I don't care. He's going to crash into the Madahorn. Make that a moment. Like it's a fucking Madahorn from Walt Disney World. It's like it's not like that.

It's not that like an imposing mountain. Right. Pull up. Pull up. We're going to hit this fiberglass mountain. It's maybe. out of styrofoam. It doesn't work.

He, um, if there was a, what was it here? This is, um, wait, you guys, why did he, why did he, why did he, why did he go, like, I'd recognize that voice anywhere? Because it was his old partner, the car thief. Oh. They had, they had been together in Cleveland. Okay. That's part of the lost Cleveland crime.

Everyone. It was like fast, f eddie or what? Right, right, right. Carjack. Carjack. Carjack. used to be called Carjack. Wait, was that character in Escape from New York?

No, right? No. Okay. No. That's why you were joking about an Escape from Cleveland, but we almost need the Escape from Cleveland to make this movie make sense. Guys, I'm telling you,

I will finance the making of Escape from Cleveland Kurt Russell. Call me? Carjack Malone is also based on a dude that junk carpenter knew. I name all my characters after the people I hang out with who sell me cocaine. Allegedly.

You'll be in the movie. How much for this? You guys, can I ask the audience a question? Yeah, please. One time a dude told me that I look like Pam Greer, do you guys think I do? No. I thought it was pretty cool.

It's not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing, but it's definitely not true. I kind of think I do. I kind of see it. Look at me from the side. I mean... Do I look like Kurt Russell? I mean...

Do I look like the shark? Ish. Ish. This is the thing that made me most upset about this movie, and it was not anything that was honest. Guys, let me ask you a question. If I put on a beret, would I look like Cuervo Jones? Yes.

Ish. If this movie gets remade. Not, not. Jason, that is your Halloween costume. And everybody will know. Quervo Jones. Who am I? Oh, I'm Quervo Jones. You know.

You know. You know from escape from L.A. You know. I hate to sake. Quervo Jones. No, I'm not Che Guevard. Nope. Nope.

I understand how you might think I'm Chequivard. No. No, no, no. Quervo Jones. Quervo Jones. No. Not Belke. But I'm in the remake.

I'm not Balke-Bartogamous. I'm Quervo Jones. Yes, I know it's racist. But. Okay. Your favorite thing. My worst thing was this. This movie shot for 70 days straight.

Only night shoots. Whoa. Oof. That made me like real bombs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's hard. And that's why I think the treadmill's there. I think that's why it's like,

I don't know. Put them on a treadmill. We have a treadmill. Can I just go home? I'm so tired. I don't know night from fucking day. That's how to make someone insane. Yeah.

70 days. And he's not really off screen ever. Right. Oh no. So that would be hellish. Yeah, that's true. Oh, no, I feel bad for saying he's not fuckable. Night shoots and doing this movie at night.

That's also happening. And like getting the script and being like, okay, what do I say here? You could kind of feel that. You could kind of, I felt like you could kind of feel the actors a little bit like being embarrassed. Not to keep on going back, but when he got in that submarine and he kind of got on his belly. That was, that was, okay, he's not into this at all. Actually, I just, I just had a memory of watching the movie this very day. Just two days ago?

And sitting next to my dog and like looking over at my dog and being embarrassed that I was watching the movie. I will say. At the dog playground there, it's like, oh man, I got to watch. I watch both of them. What? Yeah, she only had to watch one for the podcast, but I had to watch both. I like that you think it's called a dog playground. We're having fun, dog.

We're just having a great time. Going up and day. I mean, technically that's what's happening. You know, well, let's go to the audience. Let's talk to the audience. Oh, these assholes? Let's see, they've already been so vocal. But let's see what you guys have to say.

Oh, let me bring my bag of goodies for you all. So, if you, I want you to give you your name, a name of a character that might exist here in Escape from L.A. Oh, oh, there's someone dressed up like snake, Puskin. Oh, yay! All right. Darcy, don't fuck this guy. Amazing.

Wait a second. Is he a hologram? I put my finger. Jason, he's coming for you. Bring him up here. Darcy's going to cheat on her husband. I'm normal. All right, sir.

Your name, your character name of... This is very cool. The jacket is legit. My name is Blake. Blake. Blake. I love it. Blake Pliskin.

Blake Slitskin. Don't look at me like that, asshole. You left the house with an eye patch in your pocket. He's way too committed. I'm scared he's going to murder us all on stage. Bangkok rules. All right, and the name of a character that could exist in this world? Blake Pliskin.

Love it. And your question, observation or explanation, hope. Question for the curly-haired guy. I hate you already. Oh, my God. This is so bad. He's cruising for a damn bruising. You mean Cuerville Jones?

You thought I was funnier? I thought you'd be funnier. Oh, it doesn't matter. You paid for the show. Your money's in my pocket, asshole. Did you really come up for a... I invited you on state. Blake.

You can't wear that outfit and then make fun of it. Get back to your seat. Hey, Blake, that wasn't the question. Go back, Blake. Blake Plitkin. Boo. Well done. That's what he wants.

That's what he wants. All right, yes. Your question. Would Kurt Russell be? be as famous, as amazing as he is, if it wasn't without that beautiful, beautiful hair. The hair. The hair is amazing.

Yeah. The hair is almost everything. I'm trying to give you. I agree. I mean, I agree. It looks, and he looks great. He looks amazing. He's like an incredibly handsome man.

He's got a luxurious head of hair. He's like a boyish, like kind of. What? I'm just noticing no women have raised their hand for this movie. That's a very... Oh, there's one over here. I see some gals. There's one over here.

What's your name? Amy. Okay, great. Hi, Amy. Hi. A name of a character that could exist in Escape from L.A. Donald Trump.

Okay, great. Love it. Yeah. And again, sheepishly, I like it. And then your question. I'm just going to agree with his comment. How does he... Are you pointing to me?

Yeah, you. You've been doing all... Thank you, Amy. But you still don't know my name? Do you not know my name? This is not like a forum. We're not like voting on things. Jason, she knows.

She knows. Jason, I know your name, Jason. Thank you, Amy. Big fan of the league. Huge fan of yours, Amy. The only reason I'm here tonight. Oh, my God. Love connection.

I was on the league, too. Someone's getting the socket locket. Who? Jason? I think that's technically a socket cocket. Guys, I got to go. I'll see you later. Blake, how do you like him now, Blake?

What's him? Sorry, go ahead. Oh, yes, what's your comment, Amy? How does the snake dodge bullets? It's just what you said earlier. But then he gets hit by the Bolo. It's called a Bolo. Yeah, Bola, right?

I looked it up. I looked it up too. Because I was like, oh, that's a kid. That's Queervo Jones's weapon of choice. The same weapon that a Thundercat used. is two weights on either side of a string. Oh, yeah, that thing. He's also trapped very easily by a net.

He's bad at his job. But by the way, you try to get a net. That net part was kind of Jurassic Parky to me. Like the part where the guy was like, you know, he was like being flanked from all sides of a girl or whatever. It's crazy to think that that's the same fucking year. Yeah. I'm going to kill myself.

Darcy. Maybe Stephen Spielberg took every good computer editor. Like so that one year every other movie sucked. All right. So, sir, your name, your character name, and your question. Here we go. My name is Ben and my character name is Hunter Mungoose. Very cool.

Very cool. That's legit. By the way, get it written. Yeah. Yeah, just make it. Hunter Mungoose is definitely an escape from Cleveland. Yeah. Hunter.

Put it on the Kickstarter. A little bit android. Paul, I'm gonna just put you on pause for one second. Ma'am, are you asleep? You are, though. Boyfriend? Could you be sleeping?

Is she asleep? No, a little bit. We will send fucking Blake splicking it's a podcast. I will scream at you. You are five feet away from me. You cannot fall asleep

during the show. Do you understand what's happening? Okay, good. Paul, please continue. Yep. Okay, Hunter. Hunter Mungo's your question. So,

every time Snake spends any length conversing with a woman, someone is either shot, he is shot, he is theoretically poisoned, and the same thing happens in, Escape from New York, he has a conversation

and she gets consumed by sewer. By the ground, yeah. So, given that they up the level of this, why do you think they thought it was more important? to include more, you know, like, was it hammering in the point of just if snake talks to women, terrible things happen?

Wow. Yeah. They're definitely, I did sort of notice that, that like, anytime he had any sort of even remote love connection, it was like... Well, it's that very terrible thing of, like, motivating a man by killing the woman that he might be interested in. Right, right, right. Which is, like, a fairly reprehensible thing. Sure. But that is perfectly in line with this era of movie making.

Right. 1996? Yeah. Your name, your name, your character name, and your question. My character name... I got the mic. Okay. My character name would be Blake Pliskin, the copperhead from Cleveland.

Okay. You just took somebody else. Wait, Blake? You just took the Sikko's idea. Blake Plitkin, the copperhead from Cleveland. Yeah. Let's keep moving forward. Is he a stake...

It's not examined it too much. My question is, based on your expertise, which do you think Snake is best at, hang gliding, surfing, or basketball? Surfing. Surfing. Surfing. He was shot in the leg and he was just fucking cow-abonging.

He was, like, hanging loose, bro. He was absolutely hanging 10, my man. He was shredding that gnar. Anybody who can have a casual conversation with Peter Fonder while surfing in a tsunami. With a shot, And remember when Steve Bushimi sees him? When they like make eye contact?

Yeah. Whoa. Well, the tsunami wave is at the same level as the highway, which is perfectly broken for a tsunami wave to go by. And they're like, he's looking for him. He's like, my bro's surfing. And there's like surf music, like Dick Dale style. Do you think when they were filming it, the director was like,

Okay, now, see Bouchemmi. Look to the camera as if you see them surfing the tsunami and you're surprised to see them. Bigger. Bigger. Let's do it again. Let me see those Bouchemmy eyes. I cast you for those giant eyes.

Let's see them. Pop those eyes, Bouchemi. Pop them. And remember, you're a weird, vague agent. A vagent. A vagent. The end of the movie is Kurt Russell looking down the barrel

of the camera. What the fuck was that? He finds a pack of cigarettes which are outlawed. No, no, they were cloves. I think it was a clove. No, they were American spirits. Although they were brown.

It looked like a clove. But I think it was probably like a natural cigarette. Well, it's 2000. Is that what American spirits used to be or something? Yeah. Yeah. Weird brown gross cigarettes? Maybe.

Like a package of cigarettes. Well, there goes our sponsorship, Jason. I'm just kidding. And smoke them if you got them. Delicious, yum, yum tobacco. You like dirty brown cigarettes? He takes a drag. Want to look gross and European?

Want to look like you work at a head shop? He looks down the barrel of camera and is like, what does he say? Like, this is the future America. Yes, welcome to the human race. It doesn't make sense. Doesn't track with the whole movie. It is so weird.

Also, also, sorry, also, Cliff Robertson also says, at the end he says this will be the final solution. Oh yeah. He like has a weird Nazi quote. That's what I'm telling you there is just a lot of half ideas thrown there but like welcome to the human race

this is what Kurt Russell added. I don't know if this is the only thing but like they're like we can't crack this movie. It's been 10 years we can't crack and Chris Russell's like I got it. Welcome to the human race. And we'll work backwards from there. We know how it ends

so now we'll construct a movie that leads to that. So now the whole country will be in darkness. The whole world. A world just at night. Right. That's okay.

What is he fixed? I truly thought when he pressed that but like I thought the fucking world was going to explode. Yeah, me too. That would have been a better moment. It just leads to the pilot of the TV show revolution.

Right? What was it called? Yeah. Right? Thank you. But that moment where he looks into the camera, I was like, this is just too much for me.

That's when I looked at my dog and I was like, I don't usually watch movies like this penny. That's when you were like, this is too much. The last second, you're like, this is fucking, I can't do this one second more. I'm done. That Santa's been there the whole time. The credits better come to it.

What's Santa? Apparently, there was a TV series planned for Snake in the early 2000s, but it was turned down by every network for being two. too dark and too bleak. Well, By the way, that would probably work now.

I was going to say, it might. It's not impossible, but. I don't think, yeah. And then it was, the third movie, I'm sorry, was escape from Earth. Oh. And then it was escape from Mars. Oh, so it was going to be four movies. Yes.

He's going to be, this guy's always fucking escaping. Right. He's like, can't I just get settled? I want to see just like a snake. Settling time. Just a cheers. A cheers version of snakes. Snake.

Snake like redoing a home in Encino, just comfortable. Snake just becomes like the Wilson from home improvement. It's like next door. Hey, Snake, what do you think? Oh, wow. Your son's becoming a man.

He's going to challenge your authority. Happy wife, happy life. I did want to know like one thing about Snake. I wanted to know what his damn life was like other than that he was famous. Other than kicking ass and taking him. He was tall, yeah. Well, obviously we have an opinion about this movie.

There are people out there that have a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. Cuervo Jones and me, we're going to be breast bros. Utopia is the best name for this movie. Because it totally fucking rules. Quervo Jones. Second opinion. And you snuck in.

Give it up for Tim. Yeah, too. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim.

Tim. Tim. Tim. Kiss. Kiss. See, Blake, that's a good audience member. These are five star reviews called from Amazon.

And there are some great ones. There are so many good ones that I really had a hard time narrowing them down. And I was like, I'll do it before the show. But I didn't because they still were so good. All right. Now start off with this one by Lorraine A. Wharton, written in 2013, What could be better than to watch and rewatch and watch again? Hunky Kurt Russell dressed in tight black leather?

This is a completely unbelievable, outrageous flick that takes you outside yourself and totally immerses you in that world. Great twist at the end. Love this movie, and I have watched it over 30 times. What on earth? Five stars. By the way, I'm Kate Hudson. Okay.

Here's another one that I really liked. This one is by James Ortega. I'm rating this movie five stars because I want everyone to see me in it. That's right. I'm in this movie. as the Chinese gangbanger who unloads the magazine of my Uzi on Kurt Russell. I remember.

This guy is super talented. Great job. And does he like run into a Dick Tracy car afterwards? Well, he goes, of course I miss. I'm the kid in the front spraying the 9 millimeter all over. Then I jump in a black car and take off into some ditch. I fucking remember this dude. Watch the movie and look for me.

Five stars. That's great. That's how you make it in Hollywood. I would love it. I'm going to sign this guy. I'm going to be his manager. I would love it if that review got him other work. This one is just worth reading because it's the first time I've ever seen this in any review.

And this will be the last one to read. Escape from L.A. is a movie that will gain popularity as time goes on. This movie is a good B-movie, action, and entertainment. Snake plays by his own rules. His loyalty is as only as dependable as the leash to keep him on. And the second he's released, the simplest act totally knocks the point. power elite off the throne. Bottom line, this one has a better sense of the absurd

and more biting humor with just as much action. I prefer it to the first addendum. Written three months later. Since writing this review, I have watched part of the original and I can see why many fans prefer it. So funny. Three months... Went back.

And Renee got on his... Five-star review. Three months later. J.K. My bad. Actually. There you have it. Those are five-star reviews. Cone from Amazon.

But anything else to talk about before we kind of get into the wrapping it up? Anything that we missed? I'm sure there is. But we did cover most of it. 45 minutes are spent not even talking about the movie. I did think the trailer that you played twice before. Yeah.

I thought the trailer that you played first before was pretty. dope. The trailer is pretty great. Yeah. Yeah, the trailer is... Oh, I love that fake out. That trick. Yeah, that's a great fake out. The trailer for the movie as like this very...

It looks like you're at a movie theater. And then it slowly becomes the world that snake puts in... It's a bummer. This is a bad movie. But I will say unabashedly, I love... John Carpenter is a fantastic filmmaker. And even though this is a bad movie and he's made plenty of bad movies, there are, like, there's stuff like that.

There's stuff in here that. I'm like, ooh, I still, I like John Carpenter. I like what's at play a lot of times, even though it's terribly executed in this instance. But I think, like, here's the thing that I feel about this movie that's weird, is it costs almost as much as Jurassic Park. Yeah. And I feel like, but ultimately, it's almost like a meta thing because he's like saying, fuck you blockbusters. Like he almost is like, I'll give you a blockbuster. I'll make the same fucking movie again.

Right. And it's not like, it's sort of like, it seems like, yeah, fuck it. I feel like there's an energy of that to it. It doesn't seem like he's trying. Definitely not trying. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I almost think if either of these were remade today, it could work. I think escape from New York, I think. I will play quervo-jones.

You don't have to ask me, query. I think it could work. I own a beret. I think it's a cool idea, and I think that this one especially, you know, as people talk about, oh, California's just separate from the United States and all that sort of stuff. It's interesting. I think the power structure

of it, the social world of it is really great. It just feels like it's all... It feels like the first 15 days of shooting, everyone was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, how many more night shoots do we have? Where's Kurt? He's still playing basketball. We gotta get him.

We gotta get him in here to shoot some more things. When's that surfing scene? I'm ready for that surfing scene. Would you recommend people watching this movie for this purely very, this purpose. And we know how you feel if you're a dog owner, don't watch in front of your dog. Don't watch it in front

of your dog. Would I recommend this to anyone? To, for this purpose. Not just as like, you know, you wouldn't be like, yeah, you should see moonlight and you should see escape from now. Like, it wouldn't be like that. It would be like... Yeah. Um, no.

Okay. No. Okay, great. I would recommend the first one. But even then, not a lot. Yeah. All right. I would definitely recommend this. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's worth a watch.

Definitely. 100% yes. Yeah. And I agree. Watch them both back to back. You know, and if you haven't come by the end of the first one, you're going to come in the second one. Or in Snake Putskin's eye socket.

Yep. Ooh, that moist socket. Ooh, suck it. I agree. I think it's... Suck it to me. Guys, it's late. I...

I enjoyed parts of it. And I really do have a love-hate relationship with this movie because I think there's some things that are great. I think there's some things that are just really, really bad. All right. So that's that. Let's talk. Dan, you have a brand-new special on C-Siso called Lion.

Yes. And now, and people can follow you on Twitter. They can follow you on Instagram while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At Dan Levy. Darcy. Paul. You are on a hugely successful, critically acclaimed new show right now.

Talk to us about. that. When is it on? What's all the details? Okay, it's called The Good Place. It comes back January 5th. Where can people follow you? You know, Twitter and Instagram at Darcy Cardin if you feel like you want to do that. Well, I think people would like to do that. Absolutely. I follow her. She's great. I follow her too.

I follow her. Like around the neighborhood. Stop doing that. So quareful of you. I'm like, ooh, look at this heinie. You're throwing doves at her and they're just not flying away. Jason, what would you like to play? here's the thing. At the end of the show, I'd like to apologize to Blake Pliskin for not being

funnier tonight, even though I crushed hard. You can follow me nowhere. Do you want to apologize to the fucking woman that you yelled at? Sleeping lady? I want to apologize to sleeping lady, although she has not slept since. She learned her lesson. So I think I did a pretty good job. Very awake.

You can't follow me, but you can follow us at How Did This Get Made on Twitter? Yes. And I think we're on Tinder now? We are on Tinder and Grindr. I think we're on Tinder and grinder. And the weird thing is we'll just show up and we'll go in a bathroom stall with you

and just talk about bad movies. That's what we're just doing. Jack plays Kazam. It's late and it's been out for a while, but I'm going to still promote it. Watch the Gilmore girls guys. Yay, Jason. You are in it?

I mean, I might be in an episode. to the Gilmore Girls, so don't worry about it. If you believe in it, guys, dreams can come true. Is that character here tonight? Robert, you mean Robert Castellanos? Esquire? He's not here.

Yeah, those are my plugs. All right, great. I can't think of any good plugs right now, but I will say thank you to everybody here at Largo for coming out. Amazing crowd. Sign up for our brand new mailing list. We're going to have, we'll announce, our live shows with a little bit more notice, and we'll be able to give you some info and scoop

if you don't have Twitter or Facebook, which seems to be a common complaint now. So I guess eventually we'll get down to making a zine. So I thought it was easy. Soon this podcast will be released only on cassette. And then that cassette will have to be retrieved by Snake Pliskin. But Blake Pliskin will be there trying to kill him. And trying to kill you. Yes.

Thank you guys for staying so late. A big thank you to Averyl Halley who put together all these amazing clips and things I didn't even show you like the hand gliding machine gun or how the hand gliders in this movie look like the birds from Birdemic. A big thank you to Leanne Waldron, Nate Kylie does all of our research and found out all that information about Escape from New York and everybody here. Thank you so much.

Bye-bye.