How Did This Get Made? - Friday the 13th Part VII: Jason Takes Manhattan

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

Light your long candles and set your trash cans on fire, because this week, Paul, June, and Jason are breaking down the 1989 movie, Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan. The crew questions if the title of this movie was inspired by the Muppets, ponder the mythology of Jason, and discuss the importance of water safety.   • L.A. listeners! Register to attend a free special HDTGM show on 10/15 at www.siriusxm.com/podcastsmonth• New live shows 11/7 in NYC & 11/8 in Philly! Go to hdtgm.com for tix, merch, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Hello people of Earth and welcome to How Did This Get Made? The year is 1989 and Jason Voorhees is accidentally awakened from his watery grave and ends up stalking a ship full of graduating high school students headed to Manhattan and the final scenes of this film are shot there as well as the opening but there is so much that happens along the way. We're going to break it all down for you right now. Please welcome my co-host, Jay's Manzoukis and June, Diane Raphael. How are you both? I mean, I'm going to be honest.

I've never seen this. And I loved this New York. I just wish we'd spent more time there. I mean, this film really sets the tone of a New York movie. I mean, the opening sequences, the dirty alleys, the trash cans full of water. And just an establishing shot on a rat

that I feel like lasted for 30 seconds. It's like, we got a real rat. We got a real rat. Keep rolling. Well, I don't know if you notice because I, I, the Manhattan, the Manhattan that we seen in the beginning of this movie, there's one shot of the drug, you know, sort of criminals that'll come back later. But someone, I had to pause it this morning because I went back and rewatched the beginning,

someone is smoking crack, not over a lighter, but over sort of like a cathedral, like long candle. Yes. Long candle. And they are over a. a burning trash can, much to Jessica's... I wish we had St. Clair for this episode. This episode had so much burning trash cans, chemical-filled trash cans, rats-filled trash cans. This really would have been great.

And I will say, here's the thing about New York, like, and this is why rats are so upsetting, like, no matter how many iterations of New York we've seen, like, that this gritty kind of, you know, late 70s or early, I guess, 80s, New York, 89, New York, I'm sorry, 1988, 1989, New York, like, then the sort of post-Juliani, like, Disney-Times Square, New York, then post-9-11 New York, like, we've seen so, pandemic New York, we've seen so many versions of New York. What? Are we on the Brian Lehrer show right now?

But let me tell you, let me tell you something, though. The thing that always is true about New York City, that no, no one's been able to change. is the rats. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, yeah, I guess you got a point. Let's be clear. It's their city.

No, it really is. Pizza rat's really the New York City mayor. I will say this. Now that Eric Adams is a pizza rat is in? Well, I mean, he's always been in. You know, Eric Adams was just a puppet like Ratatouille. Now, I just want to say this. You were talking about New York and the vibe of New York.

To put it in context, the Muppets take Manhattan, 84. This is 89. Like, so just like when you're, So I had a question about that. I had a question about that. What is the, what is the origin of the framework blank takes Manhattan? It can't be the Muppets. This movie can't be referencing the Muppets, can it?

I think it is because I looked it up and there's no other take Manhattan thing. Okay, okay. So I can't imagine that. That would be, that would shock me. It is, it is, without having done any research, I'm going to say that that can't be true. All right. I won't allow it to be true. I like it as a parody.

If this movie is directly referencing the Muppet, the Muppets Take Manhattan, then they're operating on a level that I, having watched it, would not give them credit for. No, I would definitely not. I got to be honest.

Well, how familiar, I'm curious for the both of you, how either familiar or how much a part of your teenage or childhood years was Friday the 13th, or these movies? Were they part of your, like, scary movie lexicon? You know, it's funny, I said to Paul, as we were watching, I said, you know, what this movie really doesn't have, which I think is why I'm not scared and I don't feel anything, is a compelling, like, musical rhythm.

Like, I don't understand the music of the horror here. Is it doing anything to me? Cha, cha, cha, cha, cha, cha, cha. Okay, so that's what Paul said. He said, it's cha, cha, cha, cha. Yes. And this movie has a lot of it. And I said, that's a sound effect, though.

I said that's a sound effect. I agree. Oh, I agree. There's no Halloween theme. There's no, there is nothing that ramps you into it. And also, they also do an interesting thing. And I don't know if this is for, to get a specific rating or so, oh, no, this has got to be rated R. So it doesn't matter. It's rated R. Yeah. A lot of the kills are, are on Jason. So he's stabbing someone, but you're seeing him stab. You're not seeing the person always, which is very strange. I think the thing that really shook me to my core in this film. And I am a kid to my core.

I'm going to be honest, I don't think your core should be available for these movies. I open myself to every one of these. Oh, God, strengthen your core. No, I have to. I do strengthen it by watching these movies. So when I grew up, Jason and Freddie were a part of the deluxecon. I didn't like scary movies, they. What about Michael Myers from Halloween?

That was way more scary. Okay. I feel like Jason and Freddie. Freddie were, like, at least more poppy, fun. Like, I believe that Jason went on the Arsenio Hall show and sat there and did a silent interview with Arsenio Hall, which is one of my favorite things, worth looking up. But, you know, so I was aware of these characters,

but I never really dug into this franchise. I don't know, yeah, I don't know this mythology, for example. Like, I don't know. I realized as I was watching this. I don't know if there are any. What are Jason's rules? Well, it switches. Like, I understand Freddie Kruger's rules for the most part.

Yeah. But Jason, like Jason Voorhees, I don't understand why he's targeting all of these people. And when he gets to Manhattan, he's not targeting really many other people whatsoever. He barely leaves the docks. Yeah. You know, this is what I'll say is the mythology here is really busted. Friday the 13th is great because it has a clear idea of who it is. Mike Myers, too.

and Michael Myers, great mythology, or Mike Myers. Mike Myers, yes, of course, Wayne's World, Austin Powers, so I married the axe murder. So just to give you the idea of it, and they talk about it a little bit in the film, but in number one, it's Jason's mom, who's the killer, straight up normal human. Oh, okay?

In the second movie. Okay, sorry, sorry. So in that movie, Jason's mom, whenever we see this figure in a hockey mask, It's his mother? There's no hockey mask until part three. Whoa. Yes.

So that wasn't part of his iconography? No. Until he picks it. Holy cow. Right. So in the first one, Jason, little kid at a camp, he drowns. The mom takes revenge on the counselors. Great idea.

Simple. Easy. Makes sense. Second one, they reveal. Oh, guess what? I do want to say something about children being water safe, but I'm going to save that. Because it's not that simple, actually. All right.

But like her motives and why she's taking it out on the counselors and not looking inward. But let's talk about that in a second. So we want to put that. We'll put that in second opinions. Now, part two, they reveal, oh, that little kid didn't die. He survived. And I guess he just grew up to be an adult. They don't really tell you who raised him.

But he wears a... I thought he was feral in the woods. Probably. He wears a sack over his head. Oh, he's a sack head? He's a sack head. And he goes and murders, I guess, the campers for murdering his mother. Are their eyes cut out?

I don't know. I haven't seen part two. Now, here's my question, Paul. Yeah. Does he... By the way, I think we have done this exact same thing on the other two Jason movies that we have done. Really? We've done two other Jason movies?

Yes. No, I remember one because he went to space and that was a part of it. That was, yes. You were not there for that. That was Let the Bodies at the floor. Yeah. Oh, that was Let the Bodies at the floor? Yes. And then we did the one with Corey Feldman and Berkeley, I believe. And I think that's part six.

Corey Feldman was in it or a guest? He's, no, Corey Feldman was never a guest in the show because we won't let him perform the second opinion theme song. With his band? Yes. But here's my question. Was Jason as a child, he drowned in six years old, was he already disfigured? well that seems to be this new part of it like he drowned but now we're seeing like that he is a little bit disfigured i don't know i'm i'm gonna tell you honestly i don't know but i think part of it is i think well so yes and part three he gets his mask right and and and and what's going on in the back of his head too i mean there's some major stuff happening well he's also been i don't i don't know the time period between the between three and four, but he's also, like, got to be super waterlogged. Oh, he's always, I mean, he is, is, is he always waterlog? He's always waterlog.

As Paul said while we were watching it, he goes, oh, he looks so moist. He must smell terrible. I mean, he is. You must be able to know where he is at all times because he must smell terrible. Oh, yeah, but, you know, here's the thing about Jason, doesn't hide. Doesn't need to, just casually walking around. Because he, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, has the ability. to teleport?

Yeah. Well, that... I don't know. I don't understand. I will just quickly just jump through the two other ones to say that

then in we have part four where again he's alive, he gets killed, he comes back, but then part five, a new beginning, Jason, not in it.

Killer's a copycat. Okay? So then, part six, this is the one that we watched. Jason resurrected when lightning strikes his body and he becomes an

undead super strong zombie okay and then uh he is uh chained to the bottom of crystal lake not destroyed uh and then part seven new blood he breaks free of his chains kills again and then a psychic teenager named tina uses her powers to resurrect uh her dead father who drags jason back to the lake oh hence we get to takes manhattan where he is under the water got it gets woken up by a power line, you know, as Jason takes Manhattan, by the way, we're going to be taking Manhattan in November. You can get tickets at hdtgm.com. And, you know, maybe we'll go there by boat. I was just going to say we are traveling there by ferry.

And the ferry is disgusting. We're going through Ellis Island. Yep. And we will, yes, we will row a dingy into Ellis Island. I have so many things to say. I just want to talk about the boat that's the main. Got to talk about it. Got to talk about it.

Got to talk about its amenities. Yes. It looks like a ferry. It looks like a ferry, like a gross ferry. It looks like a commercial, industrial boat. There is nothing about it. Yeah, like it would be transporting, like, sardines or something. Correct, yes.

Like, it looks so industrial. So why does it have a beautiful sauna? Oh. Why does it have a hot rock sauna? And then the rooms are beautifully appointed. I mean, the rooms are really well-in-pointed. They have a disco. They have a gym.

The amount of bathroom space that that one girl has. The Top Dollar Toot Girl. Oh, my God. Top dollar toot, I also wrote, Paul. Oh, that's so good. I love it. What's amazing to me, though, is that this is eight. Is that right?

Yes. This is eight. There are eight movies in by 1989. Yeah. That's what's crazy. So there's one a year, pretty much with the exception of 1983. That's amazing. Yeah. And by the way, I just want you to both know that this movie was written fully to be shot in New York.

Like there was... When it was over an hour and we had not gotten to New York yet, I was starting to get angry. Yes. Oh, I mean, well, first of all, it is the longest runtime of any Friday the 13th film. It also is the Friday of 13th film that has the least amount of nudity. So why are we doing it then? Well, and why is, first of all, was it Friday the 13th? well that doesn't play into anything wait has that ever played into it has as has as friday the 13th been significant in in i'm assuming number one right that i'm going to give you a big old pause because they don't know the answer well that's just interesting because yeah it's like it didn't seem like we were referencing any of the things that we never saw a calendar we never see a calendar well by the way it would be so easy if you lived in camp crystal lake you just leave by the way crystal lake uh How would you get out of it?

Like, how would you, like, Crystal Lake seems like a lake. It's a lake. Yeah, they're tricky to get to the Atlantic. Well, yeah. Well, that's another thing. I had so many questions about, where is Crystal Lake? I think it's in, like, New England. My guess is it's in, like, New Hampshire or something.

Actually, you'll be surprised to know that Camp Crystal Lake is in New Jersey. Oh, it's in, oh, fucking hell. Of course, it's in New Jersey. Scott also wants us to know that. The murders in part one do happen on Friday the 13th. Okay, so that makes sense. Okay, wow. New Jersey.

So they're taking a ferry to New York from New Jersey, which has got to take longer. But they have bedrooms. They have bedrooms. Yeah, why are they going overnight? And also, let's talk about the weather they hit. I mean, it truly looks like they are in the, what is it called, like the northern Passage or whatever that's very big. It looks so and I just can't imagine that they're hitting that kind of weather. And I do have to question the original captain of the boat who gets murdered and then somehow is standing up at the end. But but why didn't he know before they went off course that they were heading into such rough waters? I think that they did say that there was going to be some rough waters. But it was tricky because there's, so much exposition at the top of this and especially from that captain who just kind of deputizes

his son to also be a captain of a very large vessel without any training whatsoever and then is immediately mad at him like oh god damn he didn't know how to do that it's so funny because we're given so many scenes and yet so little information that we are frantically trying to make meaning of like when we were watching that scene between the the young woman our heroines our final girl and the older woman in the car, I thought, oh, that's mother and daughter. And then, no, no, that's English teacher and student. And then I had a moment where I thought,

and there's a love connection between the two of them. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. There were, I had to go, I had to make meaning where I could because nothing was being provided to me. The same with the captain and his son. I have no idea. Was he disappointed?

What's happening? The same with the captain. the principal and his niece, who is the final girl. Reni is his niece or was he the adopted? No, it's his niece, I think. She calls him Uncle So and So, I can't remember. Well, can we talk about water safety? Oh, wow.

I guess we're doing it early. Let's do it. Absolutely. Absolutely. So my issue with this movie is I feel like, and I'm going to take on like the whole Jason lore in general because the thing that starts this is Jason is, as a six-year-old boy, does not know how to swim. Got it.

Now, you live in Crystal Lake, but you live anywhere. Well, he's in camp. It doesn't matter. You don't send your child to camp without them knowing how to swim. Okay, got it. So the fact that the mom takes out revenge on all the counselors, who I guess weren't paying attention, like, I think there's a reality to that. They weren't paying attention. But that is for her to wrestle with the rest of her life, how she sent her child to camp without

him being water safe. June, when do you think Jason Vorhees died, like roughly? Died, the child? Yeah. I thought when he was six. Yeah, but like one. Oh, what year? Yeah. It's 1989. He looks like, well, I don't know if he ages. That's the thing. He's a big burly man now. So how did that happen? Yeah, that's what's so hard. How does he come back as a big man? Oh, I'll let you know that it's 1957. Come on now. How so? 1957. Wait, what do you mean? So, so, but wait, so, okay, so what year does number one take place? I imagine that what they do is they show him drowning and then years have passed.

Oh, and June, to answer your question, the reason why the 11-year-old Jason, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill. So he was, he did have facial deformities. He was a camper at Crystal Lake. where his mother worked as a cook. He was bullied and teased by the other children. He ran to the camp's pier and fell into the lake after other campers. But the council, he was 11.

But the counselors were too preoccupied with drug use and sex to notice a struggle, unable to swim. In 1957? Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill. Camp closed in 1958. And it reopened in 79. And that's when the first movie took place. But if he had some sort of disfigurement that, like, where he couldn't ever learn how to swim, that's one thing. But parents' responsibility, guess how most kids die before the age of five.

I guess you're going to say drowning. Yeah. Drowning. Now, my issue with this movie, too, is we're so mad. We're so mad as an audience or we're supposed to be when we find out that the uncle slash principal threw her off that little dingy into Camp Crystal Lake or wherever. whatever that lake is, to teach her how to swim. That is, and I'm not saying it's an effective swimming technique, but that is a way to get young children to learn how to swim.

He was trying to ultimately save her life. And he is portrayed as the villain in that moment. Well, it was a traumatic moment. And I don't know if in that moment, that's when she discovered her own psychic abilities. Because she at that point creates a psychic bond with another drowned child of the lake. The lake holds his aura, his childlike aura, because that's the other thing. He is also, I guess he's dead, but he's a zombie, but yet the ghost of the child still lives independently of the zombie version of Jason.

Again, this is, I have this question, too, is, what am I meant? Who is Jason? I think I've literally said, who is Jason? I'm now having such an eerie flashback. Now, that's a sure. But I mean, like, really, for me, because the little kid I get, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, you know, that is rampaging I get. But the two concurrently, I'm like, where does this live? What is, what is this? Well, yeah. And here's another, here's another question. If I can just take back to water safety one more time. Sure. She never learns how to swim. So that's going to come back to haunt her. I would assume. I would assume. I would assume that.

Jason also never learned how to swim. And yet he is somehow, when he's resurrected at the beginning of this movie, through an electrical cord that's floating around in the water, when he's electrified back to life, he somehow is able to swim and not drown in that water. When did he take a water safety class? June, he's been from 1957 to 1980. He has been living a good life. And I guess he only really came back to avenge his mom. but you could argue that he may have just been working in the local store up until then. I don't think he needs to breathe because when, correct me if I'm wrong.

Like he's an amphibian? Well, you know, I mean, like he's under the water. Do you think when they leave on the rowboat, right? When the ship is sunk. Yes. By the way, I just want to point out, that a shore, or at least a caught fire, I will say this, a trip from New Jersey to New York on boat, an hour, that's the normal time, and they run express ferries every day, multiple

ferries a day. So not even remotely over night. And the minute they were like, it's going to be bad weather, they could have easily put everybody on a school bus and had them in the city, like, within an hour. My question is, when the boat, yes, when they all abandoned the boat and Jason Voorhees, he then, and they row to Manhattan, and he follows them to Manhattan. How? Swimming under the boat?

I believe, and I'm being honest, I believe he walked along the ocean's floor. Oh, wow. I think he does not need to breathe. Wow, that's interesting. And I would love, I would have loved a shot of just him slowly walking along the ocean's floor. Because that to me makes him now jaws. Interesting. The looming threat, he just is.

He appears too often, and I a little bit wanted to know, like, how is, like, to give me a sense of his movement, not just his presence. Well, that club scene, there is a club, a dance club on this freighter that they're on. And when that girl runs into the dance club, she is in the middle of a room that has nothing to hide behind. It is a dance floor surrounded by some chairs and a bar, right? You could stand in the center and see every wall. There's nowhere to hide. And yet Jason is moving around that room as if you're right, teleporting around. And the thing strangest is she's at one point looking right at him.

He's like fully across the room for her. And all she has to do is not take her eyes off of him. But by doing so, he is then he evaporates. And then is suddenly somehow just right there. It is so funny. And I like it. I don't mind it. I just kept being like, why?

What am I meant to intuit from this? What is this teaching me? Yeah. This is what I want to get to that was bothering me about this whole movie. And again, I know there are people out there. They're mad at us and we don't know enough about the Jason lore. I'm sorry. Wait, you think there are fans of this property so much so that they would complain about our ignorance?

Oh, they're going to be, you got it wrong. And they will find a way to talk back to us, the podcast? I can't wait for the last looks episode. So this is what I will say. that really bummed me out about this movie is the kills are not fun. They seem like someone doing chores. It's like, blah, blah.

Like, it's so blunt and bald. It's like, and it's not even, it's not even scary because it's like, Jason, can you take out the trash? Okay, mom. That's all it is. Yeah. Well, and a part of that is because he doesn't seem to have any motivation. We don't understand.

It's like, it's not really about killing virgins. It's not really about just killing teenagers. It's like there's no rhyme or reason to any of it. At one point, he seems to get lazy and just toss the guy off the side of the boat. Well, there's a way in which the principal, the principal kept being like, it's not Jason Forhees. Don't talk to me about Jason Voorhees. And I was like, oh, does he have some connection?

He's older in that way that, like, Freddie Kruger was seeking revenge on the... He was in the camp with him. But that's what I mean. I mean, that's what I mean. Like, I felt like, oh, this guy is going to be the bridge between Jason Voorhees and the now. And nope, nope, not at all. No. Well, it's interesting you talk about his movements, Jason, because I, I, there were times one of the things I think I like about Jason.

If it's okay to say that. We should all go around and say some things we like about him. Like, I feel bad for him that we're being so negative. Yeah, I think it's really balancing. I like, I've always liked his lumbering nature, the slow movement. Okay. But in this movie, because he teleports, he almost, the pace of him seems to have quickened and he pops up hither and tither. He's everywhere.

And so he doesn't seem to have that lumbering pace. But June, I will also argue that as someone who can teleport, he is someone who seems to just casually walk downstairs. Yes. Like, he's walking through the hallways of that ship with no, he's not sneaking. I guess he doesn't need to sneak. He, but he is. He's post-sneek. Boats are also, yes, boats are also notoriously tight, difficult places to negotiate, you know,

tight, small doors and tiny, narrow stairways and so many ladders. And he's executing it like a, we don't see it, but he must be executing it like a gymnast. he must be going through this boat like and that's what I like about him it's like he's not complaining you know he's not complaining right I want to jump on that and I want to say um persistence is what I like about Jason yeah follow through he does have some follow through and he is um he stopped a crime he stopped a rape and you know we don't we don't talk about that um you know like there was no one there to help you know he he he he certainly don't he did a very horrendous So he's kind of an anti-hero?

Is Jason an anti-hero? You know, I think... It's Tony Soprano. It's Jason Vorky's. It's Walter White. Oh, my God. You know, I do think that this movie is... You know, you can feel that they don't know exactly what to do, and they are changing the story at all times.

Because that principal character is a fun character, but this game in the middle, like, he is threatening the pretty uh the hot popular cocaine girl like if you don't hand in your biology project what is it Tamara if you don't hand on your biology project you're not going to leave the ship and it's like well isn't this a grad cruise haven't they graduated I thought they had graduated they're all worried about their school work I'm like I thought this was a celebration their banner said congratulations seniors I mean and by the way her biology project Like, some of them seem to know each other. Some of them seem like complete strangers to each other.

Yeah. Well, I think the people that seemed like strangers were the people who were obviously 36-year-old high school students. But she's sometimes, she's sometimes referring to them as like, oh, I would sleep with that. That's the only senior I'd sleep with. I'm like, wait, aren't you a senior or are you a different? Great. I mean, it was just so confound. One thing I do love about this time, period, that I'd be remiss to not mention him.

It took me back, because I was a part of this, to when, actually, I guess if I was only nine, my sister had her hair like this, at this time. A lot of women and girls, teenagers, had a scrunched up curl that was wet in appearance. So not a soft curl, but a wet, hard, scrunched curl. Okay. And this movie, Remy, is just. like got that hairdo and so many of the girls have that hairdo and I'm like wow we just don't see that anymore and it was a it was a moment in time like have your hair look wet and stiff yeah and well it was you know what it was it was um a time when there were very few actually um very few

hair especially for people with curly hair that worked and that worked right so if you if you were to maintain a curl it looked wet or weird like or you know yeah you like the words you didn't have like you have so many options right now as a curly haired person for hair care products that are for your hair you know and you used to just get right yeah there's been a lot of innovation hasn't yeah you used to just get like gel it was just gel dep right you know or moose like you put your hand in like a bucket and put it on yes a glue A glop, a bunch of glop. Moose, and then moose happened.

And that was a bo, oh, moose. Right. But the curl itself was like a, it was like solid. It was like, it was like so hard. It was a hard curl. Like a helmet of curls. You were forced to have a helmet of curls. Yes.

Now, we haven't even talked about that the woman who is, I think that she's the first woman we see on the vessel who's singing a song. Rock and roll girl. Yeah. The rock and roll girl. I love her. I loved her. I loved rock and roll girl.

Her hair was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen in my life, my lifetime. I wish there had been more of her and the videographer boy who are like the alternative kids who are like, you know, doing their thing. I loved them too. My heart broke for that video kid who really wanted to get it on with the hot Cokehead, you know, and he's like, hey, I just want to say, Tamara, sorry. I know he was so cute He was Oh yeah I did have a problem

With Tamara's biology project Same You know so she's trying to seduce her teacher To blackmail him So she will pass But yet it's graduation I don't know But the thing I was most confused by

Is that she has painted Her organs on her body Like kind of like a Mr. Good body But where her stomach is It seems to be like an arrow Pointing down to her crotch Also She wrote that

Upside down How did she write that? Is it? She's talented. Well, and I also, and I know she was setting him up, but why was he going to her state room? Well, he needed to get that biology project. I mean, I will say he kissed her for a little bit too long from my leg.

Agreed. You know, it was, yeah, that could have been cut a little. He could have pushed her off. I've just looked and done a slight bit of math to find out that this actor who plays the uncle and the principal or whatever is in, at the time of this movie's release, I believe nine years older than I am currently right now. Wow, okay. Which is chilling.

Well, but this is a time, you got to remember, lethal weapon. Yeah. Number one, Danny Glover is 42. It's crazy. And Wilford Brimley is 49 in cocoon. The one that I saw recently was that during all in the family, when all in the family, Archie Bunker was, Carol O'Connor, as

Archie Bunker, was 47 years old. And that blew my mind. Well, yeah, I mean, I'm I'm nearing Golden Girls' age. Wow. I mean, I'm actually in it. So that's just really distressing. Our lives have changed. We look better than those people who looked a lot older. Oh, no. They lived much harder. Their life expectancies were much shorter.

Yeah. And they didn't have the, you know, the hair advancements. Oh, my God. Curl creams and all of that stuff. By the way, I got to say, you know, June, I know this is kind of your domain, but I want to just talk about Kelly Hugh, who is the girl gets murdered in the disco. I love that outfit. She was wearing the backwards suspenders and the pants. shouted it out while we were watching short pants with tights I also love that outfit that is a great outfit that is a vintage

yeah vintage 80s to me outfit tight black tights under like longish shorts yeah and it's interesting because like I really liked her and I really liked this character maybe I related to her of sort of like being adjacent to someone who has this sheen to them

and people really love but also like and wanting to witness her but also not wanting to do the things she's doing, but sort of studying her like a sociologist. I thought it was fascinating, but I was sad that she died so quick. I was more interested in her than Remi. Yes. Oh, very much. I was like so on board for her too. She has such a nice arc. But then my, the bummer is kind of what I was saying before is she's one of the only people who we watch die on camera and it takes a long time because she is strangled by Jason. She is for like 40 seconds.

And that's personal. And I'm like, why are we watching the one person who has been almost completely like a good person in this experience, not a villain? Everybody else is getting like a quick death and we have to watch her suffer? No thanks. Well, this is what I was trying to circle it back to. June, when you talked about the rock star, Jason seems to go after the cool people first. Yeah. Like he does, like, I mean, not the guy who was on the boat in the very beginning who scares his girlfriend by having a hockey.

mask and a fake knife at the ready that opened up a lot of problems and a lot of questions I have about people who own boats if you had like I like it felt to me very much on par if you own a boat you probably do have a fake knife and a mask in there because you're up to some weird shit well it's I don't disagree with you and I've always wanted to own a boat oh really so that's my shame what kind of boat do you want to own yeah what do you got what do you got I just think it would be fun to go, like, have a boat you could take out. Just cruise around and, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think it would be nice to have, like, one cabin that you couldn't sleep overnight in,

but then basically just like a- Wow, you want to go out there. But yeah, just like a party boat, like a boat, you could take friends out, sunset, cruise, have a cocktail. Are you strong in the water, are you a good swimmer? Yeah, she's good. You're not, Jason? No. And I grew up in a beach town.

I grew up, like, in the water and on boats, and I'm not a strong swimmer at all. I don't fuck, I don't fuck with the ocean. I'm not interested. boats. Okay. Yeah, I am a, I'm intermediate. I'm a middle. I'm a middle. I'm not bad, but I'm not great. I think I have a healthy fear of the ocean and respect for it. I'm not going out. Well, that's why I think makes you so powerful about it. Yeah. Thank you, Paul. But I'm not going out. I'm not doing anything crazy in there. Well, June remembers when we were up in Vancouver, you said, you want to swim to that dock. And I said, I don't think it makes that much sense for me to do that because I, I was

nervous. I had the kids with me. And I was like, I don't want to, I don't want to put them in a situation. I don't need to be a hero. I think that's an important thing to recognize where you are. But you know what, though, I was glad you didn't, but I also, as I sat there thought, and maybe this is why I was like in you on, if you do start to struggle, I could come out there. And you wanted a little, yeah, that's what you wanted. And this is, and this is what June, now June, go, this is, this is, this is like, this day is boring. I want to save someone. She wants to save me. and she has a very particular way of doing it, which you felt the movie did not show it done properly.

Well, again, we're talking about water safety, because when, I don't remember who went in to save. The son. Oh, the, Remy's love interest. Yeah, he jumped in to save her because she was flailing about. And I said to Paul, because I wanted to remind him, you are approaching someone who's drowning. You never approach from the front.

You, oh, and I was also a Red Cross, you know, trained lifeguard. So I remember this training. You swim toward them and then you dive underneath. You're under their legs now. You come out on the other end and then you grab them from the back. Wow. Because they will pull you down. I remember that from Boy Scouts because we had to learn how to, you know, how to, you know, exactly.

And so I knew that I was preparing with Paul to approach from the back. So you were preparing. Even though he loves me very much, he would pull me down. While you were encouraging him to go further. and to perhaps court exhaustion, you were preparing him for your fun of rescuing him. She wanted, yes. She wanted to get like a little bit of that action back,

that kind of. A little bit of that juice. No, it was an interesting moment because the doc was, it was doable, but it was like also like, yeah, that's pretty far. So he, if he gets there, if he gets there, that's great. And if he doesn't, that's great too. Well, my issue was that I would be with the kids. Now, I will tell you this much.

When that girl fell off the boat, those two popular girls took off so quick. Those two popular girls don't even wait for her to get back on the boat. And then her English teacher is like, care to talk about it? Like, care to talk about what? She was pushing off the boat. She also gets to bring her dog. Oh, well, here's. So when she was walking onto the vessel, I thought she was blind.

And why? What happened to her parents said in a car accident? so that she gets a lot of these kind of special treatment? I guess so. Something like that, yeah. I mean, well, there was something also that I thought was interesting. I read this in the research that Molly found this. Kane Hodder, who famously plays Jason in these movies.

People love Kane Hodder. Shout out to Kane. Refused to kick that dog into the water. Funny. Yeah, so they had a scene where Kane Hodder approached the dog, and one of the first kills would have been dog off the boat. but he said not it's too mean I love it

I won't do it so then the dog just becomes a part of the cast and crew so that was that was the fix I didn't mind it and I actually quite liked that there was a dog present

that like was that was weird and unique in a movie that was otherwise confusing and I was like yeah give me more weird stuff like there's a dog and a bandana running around

you know like here's the two parts that I thought were like interesting seeing intelligent and like sort of horror savvy. Number one, the dog. Yes. And number two, when our filmmaker student, when he loses his eyeglasses and then has to use the lens of the camera and refocusing it to actually see what's happening. He did shoot someone. Let that be known. He because he couldn't see. Well, June, that's a, I mean, you're, so you're up there

defending this guy for just firing without glasses on. Well, at that point, they, know there's a murder. I mean, we don't know. I mean, we know, but the way we, you know, we, you know, we, you know, we don't know that everyone, I mean, I would argue that he should have made me taking a beat. I will say, if all of the kills had the true surprise of Jason punching that one kid's head off of his body. That was the best. I was like, give, why hasn't this been happening all the time? Okay, that I'm going to add that as my third favorite part of the movie. But what I, but what I loved about it was how long they spent. How long they spent with that other guy? Hitting him over and over and over again. Exhausting himself. He roped him. Hitting a plastic mask. Yeah.

That's what's crazy. He's just punching a hard plastic mask. It was amazing. I laughed so hard. I wish he had just died from exhaustion. But by the way, that guy, the boxer, the girls are watching him from an above, from an above portal, a skyline. into the gym.

And these two dudes are kicking each other's asses. Like, they're, it's not even like sparring. It is, they're going for it. And at one point. At the on-boat boxing gym. They're not even in a ring. And again, this is an industrial New Jersey ferry. Why is there a boxing area and a sauna?

What is this? I mean, again, how long are they there? First of all, the guys are described, I don't remember who they're talking about, but as like so ripped and these like hunks, like, look at those muscles. And they cut to the guy, they're both, I'm sorry, very slender. Okay, careful, June. I'm only saying this because it's, sorry. These are, these are 1989 ripped bodies.

Are they? In 1989, you didn't get more ripped than this. You couldn't. Because just like the hair products, those muffles. Fossils weren't invented until later. Like, wow. Like they didn't have come. Cumb gutters didn't exist in the 80s.

No, I think you're right. We love a cum gutter. We love them. We love them. Wow, that's so interesting. Because I was like, why are they being described this way? Maybe you're right. It's not really until later that you get those bodybuilder bodies as cut up bodies, you know.

I think these kids are the equivalent of ripped. Well, I think that I mean, I guess But I would argue that the one that they say is really ripped Is the skinnier of the two Yeah, yeah, you know But look, he definitely has the skills And, you know, I want to

I want to really dive into New York When they finally get to New York Oh my God. Well, there's two, well, there's one thing I do want to just see Is that principle or whatever he is Is so agro to the son's captain when they're rowboating to New York. Like, well, you're the son of a captain.

It's like he is like, he never drops it. Never drops. He never drops that shitty attitude of I hate these kids. These kids are dumb. He's, there is no Jason Voorhees, shut up. Don't you ever say Jason Voorhees again? And then when confronted with Jason Voorhees, he is still never drops it. He can never, so much so that he's sucking the joy out of the most.

With him. You know what I mean? Like if he had been killed earlier and it was just the kids and Jason, the movies and maybe the English teacher, that's way more fun. Yeah. And also, like, I wanted him to at least posit his theory. You don't think that's Jason. He thinks it's the deck end. Well, the deck end is pretty.

The guy who's saying, the guy who's saying he's back. You're all going to die. Yeah. Agreed. Who's doing this? And also, I was really disturbed in their rowboating to, you know, the Statue of Liberty, it seemed to have been at it all night.

No one could take another shift. Well, I mean, I also, well, I want to talk about why when they got to the Statue of Liberty, the boxer just starts singing a happy song. All of his friends are dead. Every, they have all had the most tremendous. They have, they share this whole thing that horror movies do,

which is everybody has witnessed true atrocities and is kind of unfazed. And, and, uh, and that to me is one of the craziest moments. Like, I get it. Like you're excited to be in New York, but they got to switch the tone back. Now we're in New York. They get to shoot in New York.

They pull up on the weird dock town that looks like something that's out of like a London back alley or something. You know what it is? It's where it's where pretzies sells his pretzels in New York City. In Hercules in New York. Oh, my God. Well, so they're in this place. And immediately these two drug dealers, they take Rennie and they're like, if you follow us, will kill you. And this is where the principal says to me the dumbest line of the whole movie.

He's like, okay, first of all, let's not follow them because he will kill her. And let's split up. And I was like, to what end? You know where she, you could follow? Like, why are you? There's no even reason to split it. They don't know that Jason's around. They just know that they're good, that this, his goddaughter or whatever, his niece has been kidnapped with very extreme consequences.

And he is like, let's split up. And not just let's split up. Let's split it up entirely. It's not even in groups. Let's individually prepare. It is. That guy is an absolute moron. And there's so much blood on his hands.

You know. Yeah. Give me Jason every day over that guy. I would love in some world there is like a court case. We make it like a legal drama, like a Lincoln lawyer, where you do have to put some of these people on trial, the people who survived. Wait, now, you did what? Now, why would you do this?

And, you know, you could put Jason in a suit, have him sitting at the table. No, because it ended up working for them at the very end. But I would like to ask the question of our two last survivors. Like, you're, he's chasing you. You're on the subway. You're scared. Why go down into the subway, you know, tunnels? Why?

Why not go up? Stay in populated areas. Why not jump in a cab? and drive, tell them to drive as far as they can immediately. Like, how is, like, they, they are unable to, I feel like, maybe I'm wrong, but, you know, earlier, the idea of Jason rampaging around a summer camp makes sense. It feels pretty trapped. You feel, you feel trapped there with Jason, right?

Right. But what I can't understand is you're in Manhattan. This is now millions and millions and millions of people in cars and distractions and places, to hide and places to go. And you still can't avoid a slow-moving ghoul? That's where I was like, why is he tied to this? Something's up with you. You got to look after a while you got to look inward.

Yes. What did you do to deserve this? Yeah. Yes. I'm sorry. Yes. At the end of the day, the idea that, well, I guess we got him to New York City. And why won't you learn how to swim?

Maybe she does after the film. Okay. So here's my question. So do you think that Jason? isn't trying to kill Rennie. He just wants to play with her. Like he saw her swimming when they were kids. They were little,

they were swimming and he just want, he, or he wants her to save him. The ghost of his child like self. Does he want to kill her? And I'm not saying this is what the movie is, but if there was, if the movie hinted that they had some connection

in this childhood moment of almost, her almost drowning and him having. Because he is asking for her help. So is that why he, single-mindedly is chasing after her doesn't know but that would be more that would be cooler you know yeah if there felt like she had to have some moment with him or some closure with him but we both don't swim we're the same right and then and then they hug but no what she does do is uh is drowned him in acid easily attained acid and this is straight side street side acid that she chucks out of a bucket

which would mean her hands are covered in acid. Okay, so here's what I didn't understand. So the subway worker tells them, like, hey, the acid wash is going to happen. You know, every night there's an acid wash, and it happens, it's going to be happening in 10 minutes, like, you're going to want to get out of here. Now, I couldn't believe that she threw acid before the acid wash. That she didn't wait for the acid wash to happen. Yeah.

That the movie didn't. That, like, we're throwing acid on. on him before we're delivering the promise of what we just set up. It was just so strange to it. Yeah, it really, I struggled to make sense of it. And all I wanted was more, boy, I loved. Did you see the Batman sign in Times Square? I didn't see that.

There's a huge, underneath the clock, there's a huge Batman, the movie sign that's cool. Like all those shots of 1980, late 80s, Times Square in New York, I just, I loved so much. much. And I was like, oh, I wish this movie had taken place in Manhattan and had brought us all over the island. Wouldn't that have been cool? Do you think they just realized, but by the way, just my fourth favorite moment was when they ran into the diner screaming, like, there's a man of hockey mask. He's trying to kill us. And that waitress who was so perfect said, welcome to New York. Or whatever her line was. But I, I guess I had to, I don't know what's true, Paul. And I'm sure you're will tell us, but I assume they did write a script called Jason Takes Manhattan,

realized they couldn't afford to shoot in Manhattan and do all that exterior stuff, and then just placed it on a fishing boat. He wrote a movie set in New York that was going to have scenes in Madison Square Garden, the Brooklyn Bridge, a Statue of Liberty, the Empire State Building, but the film only had a budget of $5 million. And they said, well, Paramount's like, there's not enough money to shoot this in New York City. So they had to rewrite the film and spend more time on the cruise ship. and actually most of the scenes

They can't say more time on the cruise ship Like the entire movie is on the cruise ship I mean, and it is not We've called it so many different things They wanted it to be a cruise ship It's not Of course The exterior is a ferry

The interior is a carnival cruise And so here's what I will say That even the scenes shot in New York We're filmed in Vancouver So only like only that one day where they clearly had the opening and closing in Times Square and some, you know, and some subway shots, because even the subway shots aren't in New York. Here's what I'll say. And I, because we're talking about what we love about Jason and we do love Jason. And I want to call out Kane Hodder, because June, I think you're a fantastic actress. Jason, I think you're a fantastic actor. We were just watching your Finding Dory episode last night of Brooklyn Nine-N-Nine. It was so fun. Oh, nice. Oh, we were laughing so hard, Jason. We were laughing so hard. What a performance. Oh, my gosh.

Oh, can I tell you something? I'm going to tell you something both about that episode because it pertains to this podcast. So there's the scene in that episode of Brooklyn Nine Nine, where I am, Jake finds me in the hospital and I'm covered in tattoos that I put on myself like Memento. Of course. One of the tattoos, one of the tattoos that I had them make and put on my body, but you simply do not see it. Camera didn't pick it up because it was like right down here. on my kind of lower trunk was in large letters

team Fred. Oh, wow. I made them put and they were like, what is it again? And I was like, just put the words team Fred. Wow.

And I was so excited because I thought I'd placed it well enough that it wouldn't be screaming but it would be there for people to find and enjoy. But it just never caught it right. And I was heartbroken. I was like, oh, I wish I'd just moved it a little more.

Oh, my God. I would have loved that. Yeah. Oh, that's a bummer. That's a bummer. Well, I'm excited to know that trivia, though. And for anyone who hasn't seen that episode, maybe I haven't seen Brooklyn Nine-N-Nine, but just go watch that episode.

Jason, it's truly just an unbelievable performance. I'm thrilled to have you back on the show as we're getting through it. But this is what I wanted to say. You both are great actors, right? You know, but I'm going to say this. Thanks, Paul. Thank you, Paul. You as well.

Thank you. But you're not. And neither am I as good as Kane Hodder, who vomited on Q in that final scene. Figured out how much water that he needed to drink to vomit. He had to drink several pictures of water, not a special effect. For it to be like right there. To vomit on Q. Now that is what we've talked to.

I bet I could do it. I'm sure you could, but again, back to water safety. I don't think it would be hard. I bet if that's the methodology, just overload your system so it's right there ready to go, I bet I could do it. You know, I saw David Blaine do that on stage where he, you know, he spits up a goldfish and stuff like that and he gets it in and gets it out. It's pretty interesting. I don't think I'd like that part of it. The goldfish is alive.

Oh, I definitely wouldn't like that. But this is the moment. They do a lot of mask off work. Now, Jason, you asked earlier in the episode when he was wearing. the hood or like the burlap sack did he have eye hole he had one eye hole so uh so his face is always a little bit of a yeah i'm not realizing i don't think i've seen any of these movies except for the ones we've watched in the past because that's not familiar to me at all i thought he always were the hot that same thing and so when he when he picks up the mask to show the the kids i mean that's a joke

right the kids are like hey man give me your money and he's like look at this face and like whoa hey man that's cool make it whoa whoa whoa i did love in that moment when he's he is walking along and he just absolutely kicks the shit out of their boombox that is playing like punk music or whatever. I love the idea that 1989 street punks like shaved head skinhead punks are hanging out in Times Square. It was really funny. I loved it. It killed me now. I will say that this whole ending where his mask is off is really like it really and I don't want to be a person New Jesuit's book by a cover, but it lessens his power for me. So this is the first time that that really is the case?

I think that we're really living in a world where, like, he's got like a, he's got a Muppet face. Like, he looks like a Muppet. He is not scary with Mask Off, in my opinion. Do you think that that is just the movie's effort to really drive home that connection between the two of them, that this is that boy? I guess. I think that what they really wanted to do was, I think the intention was they want to. wanted to get him back to being a kid in the next movie. So I think that they were going to switch spirits, like, or something like that.

Wow. Yeah. So, but the movie was, it was such a financial bomb that they were never able to kind of do that. Wow. Okay. Yeah, I think. I think that that's what I read there. It was like some idea that there was the kid is taking over again.

But, yeah. So when he is, that little face and all that acid, I found the end. to be sad and comical. I'd rather you just bash him in the head with that mask on but once his face is out

and he's like he looks like a little cute he looks like a little ghouly from that movie like he looked too cute yes I understand you can't kill this little cutie I understand well he does

he does become humanized absolutely you know as well as the little boy flashbacks that Rennie is having also humanizes him in a way And there's a, again, there's a way in which I feel like with a Jason, with a Freddie, that I want to feel as though they're writing some wrong.

You know, they are creatures of vengeance or retribution or something like that. And with Freddie, that always seems clear. But with Jason and Michael Myers, I guess, I'm not quite sure the why. Well, it seems like at this point, I guess the lore would be that he protects Camp Crystal Lake. Like that would be the... Does he? From what? Like hand jobs? I mean, by the way, that couple, we didn't even talk about that.

They are making out, she is naked. He's like, oh, hold on, let me drop the anchor. It's like, now? Now drop the anchor? Why don't you drop the anchor before you're doing any of this stuff? It didn't look like it just happened. Well, then he also, then returns. He has brought a collapsible prop knife and a Jason Vorhe's hockey mask on the boat.

Well, I mean, this is why I tell you, I don't trust boat people. You know, this is why I don't trust them. Well, that was what was hard of at the beginning of the movie, too, because it's just like, gosh, like, us girls have to be scared of the bad guys, but we also have to be scared of the good guys. Like, and that was pretty depressing. I think that, I think, yeah, I think this movie is, is really going to wake a lot of people up. You just need to be scared of the guys. Exactly. Just, yeah, just every guy in this movie is not, except for the boxer, is pretty much making bad decisions.

throughout the entire, and the cameraman. Well, the cameraman did kill something. The cameraman's a little sketchy, but I will say, I feel like the captain's son, Rennie's love interest, he seemed to be like, he seemed to be a top-notch kid, I felt like. Oh, yeah. What kind of, what kind of shockumentary was the camera guy trying to get together? I mean, he's putting it together a reality shockumentary? Oh, I hope that, I wish that they would have released that as like extra features.

It's like his, that's a found footage movie. Have they ever done Friday the 13th found foot? Jason put this in the list of the other. We had another great movie. Oh, we found that Marlon Wayne's already did that. Oh, oh. Yeah, we've come up with some good horror movies here on the show. Yeah.

My pitch June was, what if everybody's lawn Halloween decorations came to life and started attacking the neighborhood? Well, that's really, like, relevant to us right now because we have a brand new lawn decoration just this year. That is what precipitate. Yeah, the 12 foot skeleton. Oh, it did. precipitated the And this is what you're missing out on last looks If you're not listening to Last Looks

Jason and I are getting We're pitching franchises here That's a great idea Right? Marlon Wayans already did it And Rob Riggle And Rob Riggle is in it That's what we found out

We went through this whole arc Where we discovered this I had this great idea We started talking about blah blah And then in the chat It was like Boop here it is and boop And then Paul was like

Wait I think Riggles's in this It was a real shock I will also just say that the opening kill of that girl who's like waiting underneath the uh why did she go in there why not jump off the boat and fucking swim yes nobody nobody moves in this movie they all commit to their death very quickly and i and that's what's interesting all the women do the men kind of have at least a moment of trying to fight but the women all stand there or crouch more likely and wait and then And wait and scream and look.

Oftentimes, they don't even scream really. No. Like there was a bunch of silent deaths. Yeah, they just silently accept their fate. I think that the first, I think the first guy who dies is, the reason why he takes such a long time is he's looking at what's in Jason Sandy. He's like, is that from me or is that just tubing? Because I don't think the tubing. Yeah.

Although it does. It looks like intestines are stuck on the end of it. Like, it's like, what is? Yeah, it was so odd. Obviously, we had opinions about this movie. There are people out there with a different opinion And people that I'm sure Are going to be mad at us

About having these opinions We don't need to hear from you It is now time for second opinions You are one day You're a Monday You're a message Maybe that art is subjective I need a second opinion

Thank you, John L'Ijoa. Okay, so Friday of 13th Part 8 has a 4.7 out of 5 stars. That's the average review on Amazon. That's 564 total reviews. 83% of them are 5 stars. Let's get into it. James writes, this is the Titanic version of Friday the 13th.

They get stuck out in the middle of the sea with Jason on board, and then he goes on a killing spree. By this movie, you won't regret it. Five stars. Right, we got it. Right. Easy, easy to go. And then it goes to movie man Kev, who writes, not only is this a great addition to the series, it also perfectly encapsulates my mood when visiting New York City. Which is what?

What is that? Yeah. Yeah, movie wanting to kill everybody? movie man kev that could be used in evidence and he wrote that in 2019 so this is not an old review Lauren B. Floss writes this movie is different from the other Friday

the 13th movies. This is brand new Jason spends most of the movie on a boat so it's not as bad as it might sound if you're tired of the old Friday the 13th movies then get this you'll love it so she just likes location difference like she's tired of

cabins and woods I get that now this is the the final one that I want to read from Nick. I know a lot of people, and this is all written in Cap, but I won't read it like that. I know a lot of people seem to hate this film and say it's one of the worst in this series,

but I have always enjoyed it. Sure, there's only two scenes or so in New York, and the majority of the movie takes place on a cruise ship. But I think that this movie is very good. The ending is king of weird, but this is a movie that you can just sit down and enjoy for what it is. And I have to say,

I love the shot at Times Square with the music towards the end, with the Times Square lit up. It makes me feel good. So happy to have this movie in my collection. So this person just likes a B-roll footage of... By the way, I agree with that. I wrote it multiple times that I loved all these shots of Old New York. I wanted to buy him a Nolta camera. Yeah, come on, let's do it.

I do want to carve for Halloween our pumpkin like Jason, like a Jason Jackalander. And I think that that we can maybe get that... Oh, that'd be cool. That's a kind of a fun thing we should do. Like I said, we are coming to New York this November. Jason and I will also be in D.C. and Boston. How did this get made? We'll be in New York and Philly.

Check us out. Go to hd-TGM.com. We have amazing guests at Dinosaurimpro from Edie Patterson and Danielle Schneider and Mary Holland and Rob Heubel. It's going to be an awesome time. And when we go to Philly, we were talking about maybe even bringing a bad boys back. Maybe we bring a bad boys back to Philly. We will see. We will see. Bad boys, bad boys. What are you going to do?

Oh, boy. They're probably going to do the wobble. I would hope. We got to have the wobble one more time. Jason, June, anything you want to talk about, promote things? Well, yeah, I guess Weapons is now on DVD. So if you haven't seen it yet, I think it's a great movie to watch any time, but especially during spooky season. Yeah, great movie. Really fun. Incredible. I am going to, I'm going to shout it. Listen, if you're listening to this, and you've got a little kid at home, why not pack them up and bring him to Gabby's dollhouse? Oh my gosh,

people have been tweeting at this all weekend, yeah. I am in the movie Gabby's Dollhouse. I voice a stuffed animal, a little bear, a very cute named Chumsley, who is a villain. So bring your kids to Gabby's Dollhouse. Inexplicably, somehow, here I am 20 years into this career, and this is, without a doubt,

the best reviewed movie I've ever been in. It was number two at the box office this weekend. The most successful movie I've ever been. Well, Jason, I will tell you that apparently at AMC theaters, they are sung a keychain with your character on it. So people said that you are represented. Very well, send you the picture of it. Yeah, that people are very excited that you are in Gabby's dollhouse.

I love it. Anyway, I've been hearing from lots of friends who have little kids who are like, dude, this was crazy. That is amazing. Very funny. So check out that, and that's about it. And you can also check out my substack. It's free. Just go to subsdack.com, I guess. Anyway, a big thank you to everybody who makes this show possible. Shout out to our super producer, Scott Sonny, who is filling in for Averill Halle while she is on leave.

And all the reports that we are getting about Averill is that she is getting better by the day. So keep on sending that love to Averill. also a shout out to our other producer Molly Reynolds. If you have an issue with this movie, you want to give us a shout out, you want to talk about this a little bit more, give us a call, head to the Discord, and we will break it all down

on last looks, but don't tell us that we got the mythology wrong. We don't want to get involved in any of that garbage. Maybe we'll have a shirt. Maybe we'll have a shirt as good as the Geek Squad shirt. We don't know. We'll figure it out later on. I also want to give a shout out to our engineer, Casey Holford. And remember, give me a call at 619. Ask. P-A-U-L. At 619, Paul, ask to leave all your comments about Jason takes Manhattan. We'll see you next time. Bye for now.

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