How Did This Get Made? - Glitter LIVE! w/ Adam Scott, Casey Wilson, & Dan Levy (HDTGM Matinee)

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

We're talkin' the 2001 Mariah Carey music romance Glitter with all-star co-hosts Adam Scott (Severance) & Casey Wilson (Garbage World), as well as special guest Dan Levy (The Goldbergs). LIVE from Lar...go in Los Angeles, we cover why this movie is set in the 80s, what the deal is with Da Brat & Mariah's other friend, Dice’s death, the true meaning of magical realism, Mariah's cat, and much more! (Ep. #94 Originally Released 09/23/2014) • New live shows 11/7 in NYC & 11/8 in Philly! Go to hdtgm.com for tix, merch, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a very special episode of how did this get made. Yes, it's a live show. Yes, this movie is amazing. But thirdly, we are missing both Jason and June for this episode. Collective, oh, what? Fuck you, Shear, we hate you. Guys, calm down. There are reasons we're really good, personal and health, and they're both better, and they're all good.
Starting point is 00:00:27 But we have assembled something that I, I like to call the How Did This Get Made All Stars to help talk about glitter. So, here we go. Let's start the show. Mariah Carey Stars in what can be described as the Fratata version of 8 Mile. We saw glitter so you know what that means. Now it's time for how to discrepairate. We're going to have a good time, celebrate some failure, not just be a hater, because you know you wonder, how to discrepay.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Following the mediocrity of subpar art Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, How did this get made? Hello, people of us! And hello, Largo, Los Angeles! We are very excited to be here in Los Angeles at our L.A. Home, Largo, at the Cornette Theater. We have a great crowd tonight.
Starting point is 00:01:25 We have an amazing movie to talk about. and we have a very special episode of how did this get made because tonight it's how did this get made all stars that's right I am hosting tonight I am Paul Shear
Starting point is 00:01:42 but tonight I will be joined by Casey Wilson give it up for Casey Wilson Mr. Addery Wilson Mr. Adder Scott. And a special guest, Mr. Dian Levy, give it for Dan. Dan! All right. Glitter, glitter. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Well, this movie is a movie that I've heard about for a long time. For a long time. So you hadn't seen this? I had not seen this movie. I owned the DVD, but never worked up the courage to watch it. It's very hard to find this movie. Yes. It's only available on Amazon for $3.99.
Starting point is 00:02:43 And it's an hour and 47 minutes long. $4.99 for HD, y'all. Powerful people have done a lot to make sure that you don't see this. Yes. Yes. A lot of people say the reason why this movie didn't do well is because of September 11th. Because it was released the week after.
Starting point is 00:03:08 But it has nothing to do with that. It is a terrible movie nonetheless. How convenient for that. I've literally read multiple reports. Beautiful timing. Mariah Carey numerous times says 9-11 was the downfall of this day. But it takes place in such a New York movie that, you know, the last thing you do want to see after 9-11
Starting point is 00:03:34 is Mariah Carey, representing her city. I will say that someone pointed out to me that even though it takes place in New York, there are many Toronto landmarks throughout the movie. Very Canadian. They shot it in Toronto. You would think they would have the budget to shoot this in New York. They had $22 million.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Yeah. What about my name? Madison Square are going. $22 million. $22 million. $22 million and I made a whopping 2.5 opening weekend
Starting point is 00:04:03 and then worldwide 5.2. Wow, it looks like it was made for like five shits. And you had the HD version. Yeah. Because it's an 80s
Starting point is 00:04:18 movie but there's nothing 80s about it. Nothing. At all. Nothing. Nothing. That was the end. They don't even
Starting point is 00:04:25 clearly delineate that it is the 80s they don't put like a graphic up to say like 1980 well that one guy was in a 1983 oh does it okay I didn't have the HD version but it's very blurry but and that one guy was in the silk shirt with the CDs all over it that's true
Starting point is 00:04:42 right that was pretty clear but it's also Mariah Carey so you watch you're watching you're like oh this is a 90s movie it has to be it yeah it doesn't feel it doesn't feel like there's they just paid no attention I almost think they decided to say it was in the 80s to make it seem more interesting. Because, like, afterwards, they decided.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Like, this needs to be a period piece. The biggest, like, clue that it's in the 80s is they just play that rap song, like, don't push me, because, oh, no. Like, that's the only thing I knew. People have cordless telephones. 1983, people weren't, like, that wasn't happening. No.
Starting point is 00:05:19 As a matter of fact, he's on the cover of Spin, and Spin didn't even come out until 1985. So, yes, see. But there is the character named Chili D, which is a pretty 80s name. It is. It has a pretty good name. This movie has all the stuff that I love,
Starting point is 00:05:38 which is like things that you, that don't ever exist, like the 80s clubs in this movie, like someone's doing semaphore, like in the club. Another guy has like a Lion King, like Shield. That's right. Like, that never happened. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:52 And there's this club that is, a dance club packed with thousands of people. There's a DJ who's also a world famous record producer and he has the power to break artists at a dance club.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Like he gets the, can we just start talking about it? Yeah, please. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's get into it. He's DJing like the full thing with the headphones. When the tape comes up to him. Someone gives him the tape. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Thank you, Casey. Don't drop it, don't drop it. He listens to it for three seconds. Two, I think it was two seconds. And says, this is amazing, who's this, and... It's spice, right? I mean, the... Silk, it's silk.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Padma Lakshmi's character, right? By the way, Padma Lakshmi did not know she was an actress until this movie. No. and really want a spinoff of her character and Terrence Howard. I want to be their lives together. By the way, how upset is Terrence Howard that he's in this movie?
Starting point is 00:07:03 This must fucking kill him. But he's, like, super good in it. He is giving it his all. He really is giving it everything he has. He's trying to try it way too hard in this movie. You know what, you guys? I think Top Chef is her spinoff. I think that's the character.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Silk didn't make it in that business and she moved over. No, but he gets the tape, puts it in, listen to it for two seconds, and then says, oh, this is great. And then right then he introduces Silk and the girls and the camera pans over and they start performing for the club. Yeah, they're ready to go. They're ready to go.
Starting point is 00:07:45 It makes no fucking sense. He just had to listen to them for a second before he saw them. Right. And by the way, it wasn't like a dance song. It was kind of like a ballady song, right? It wasn't like a song that you'd be like, let's put this on in the club and people are going to go crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:00 No. Thank God Silk was there, you know, because imagine if he was like, this is great. Fuck, they're not here. Exactly. What are we going to do? Well, it just goes back to the whole movie as suspect because Terrence Howard originally finds
Starting point is 00:08:14 Mariah Carey and her two girls. The back of the brat. The brat. The brat. The brat. They're just. Just dancing. Like they're just
Starting point is 00:08:25 They're just Right. Louise. And the other one playing the other one. Roxy and Louise. Wait, now who is Roxy?
Starting point is 00:08:36 Who is the other one. The other one. The one that is not the brat. Both spirited spirited performances. Yeah. I have some questions about them too. Yeah, I think we all do.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Yeah. They were. really giving it at their all. And I felt like I should have was in a time machine that I would have been cast as the other one. And I thought she gave a lot to that. I thought they both gave their heart and soul. Oh, I felt like they were like the Rosencrantz and Gildenstern of this hammock.
Starting point is 00:09:08 It was like comic relief. But it was so odd because it looked like Terrence Howard was just going to watch three girls dance at a club. He's like, hey, I want you guys to be backup dancers. Like, no, no, no. We're not into that. We're doing our own thing. But I wasn't quite sure what their own thing was.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Yeah, I have Terrence Howard and Padma Asked them to be backup But like from what why would he ask them to do that From what he saw Well, that was my question It's like they're just They're just dancing And I didn't even understand
Starting point is 00:09:37 What club would give that Like an outlet like you guys want to come And dance on stage Because they were backstage like They have dressing rooms But all they were doing was dancing with thousands of people Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:09:50 But the camera was focused on Mariah the first time you saw her in that leopard thing, you know, that must have been maybe from his point of view. And they, but she literally, his B OV. But she said, Mariah's like, we don't want to be a backup because we're doing our own thing, but we never established
Starting point is 00:10:09 what that was. At all. Because it didn't seem to me like Mariah wanted to become a singer. Ever in the whole movie. Yeah. As a child, she did not want to go up on stage. She was emotionally scarred. We were making her...
Starting point is 00:10:25 Well, her house almost got burnt down by her dumb mom. I wanted that mom. That's my favorite scene. When the mom said this, it was just so... Like, every other scene took about five hours. That scene, the mom was like,
Starting point is 00:10:36 well... I know. Totally. But the credits keep on going. Do you notice that? Forever. The credits are going like an hour, 10 into the movie.
Starting point is 00:10:47 It's like director of photography. I'm like, what? Why is this happening still? I wanted... No one should take credit for this. movie. I wanted that mom to really be on fire.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Like I wanted her to run into like Mara's her like, just like in flames. Burn her face just burned. Something more. But and I guess maybe this is me paying a little bit of not that much attention to the top. They didn't really establish her as
Starting point is 00:11:13 being like an addict or was she an addict? No, she was just a great singer. She was just. She was just. She was just. It seemed like she was just sleepy. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:22 she has smoking and a sleeping problem she was addicted to cigarettes it's a really you know it's very addictive don't smoke don't smoke don't smoke we're kids you smoke it's like she's following her dreams I didn't see her try to get another job anywhere else I'm like this selfish mom was just like I got to sing but I can't take care of you right oh I like the house burnt down and then she's like bye yeah and then when she gets to the orphanage I mean those kids kids were, I feel like they acted as well as De Brat and the other one.
Starting point is 00:11:57 That was DeBrat and Louise. Yeah, not they weren't acting. That was their characters. That was them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like Richard Linklater. They shot the first part. And then came back.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Yeah, they're still, they're shooting an installment. They're still shooting the movie right now. But when they came over to her and I think it was... They were very friendly. They were very friendly right away, but the first question was, are you Puerto Rican?
Starting point is 00:12:28 Right. And she said, no, I'm mixed. And they said, okay, I guess I like you then. End of conversation. End of conversation. We're going to be a trio. We got this going on.
Starting point is 00:12:39 We have a plan to do something that is undefined, and I will never sit. We're going to be endlessly loyal to each other for no reason and pertaining to what we don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Let's get busy doing that. And just a sidebar, the scene with Debrat and the other one when they were trying on clothes and watching the news report, that was alternately like she's watched the news and then it's very comic turns with the other one coming out so quickly in different outfits. Does anyone with me? I remember. Yes, I remember. It's mattering.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Thank you. When was that? You know, hard to say. It was just somewhere in the middle. It's kind of middle, right, when they're watching. But it seemed like a long improv between the. the two of them, that the director was like, this is gold. Keep going.
Starting point is 00:13:25 That's something that Casey brought up backstage that I think is true, that it seemed like there was a lot of loose improv-y nest to the movie. DeBrat is someone who's going to improvise. Look, you hired DeBrat. You're going to get it. You're getting to Brad. And I looked up, I looked up the guy who played dice.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Yeah. I forget his name. Max Misley. Yeah. But he is a known improvisation. Really? No, no, he's not. He's definitely not.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I thought for a quarter of the movie that Dice was just Jim Brewer. Just waiting for him to do the goat man in the middle of the club. Not to brag, but I was in a movie with Dice with Max Beasley. Oh, really? Did you guys talk about glitter?
Starting point is 00:14:14 Not to brag, not to brag. Maybe you've, no, no, maybe you've heard of it. Talk about it. What was it called? Dice. What was it? What was it? Movie called Tork.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Oh. Sorry, sorry. Wow, wow. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, look, you don't have to brag about it. No, I'm not. I'm not bragging about it. I'm just looking at my papers.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I'm looking at my notes. But to talk about Dice, are we going to see a clip of Dice right now? I'm going to show the what is people often call, like, called like the meat cute, I guess. This is like when Dice and Mariah characters. who's rocking a great bicycle like Lance Armstrong hat Very weird Not 80s
Starting point is 00:14:57 Not 80s Not 80s But not 80s But not anything I kind of felt like they told Mariah Carey This movie takes place in the 80s She's like oh I won't dress badly I'll dress like
Starting point is 00:15:06 I'll wear what I wear normally Right Oh all right sure Someone also mentioned this And I didn't notice this But that she has like a silver streak on her On her shoulder Yeah at one point
Starting point is 00:15:18 What the fuck is that all about? according to all the research I was able to find no one knows there's really like no one has been able to put it together the the closest that we got was because maria wanted a silver streak on her like that was it but at one point it's here right yes is that where it is in the whole movie it moves is that is that the glitter that's glitter what's the glitter what we solved the riddle. Wait, so she's made of glitter? She's glitter. She's real personified?
Starting point is 00:15:55 Is that where her robot skin has been worn off? I want to see Terminator 4 with Mariah Carey from Glitter and Arnard Schwarzenegger. All right, so here's a scene. This is you get, I mean, and again, you get the taste of the chemistry that's going on between these two people. The love story for the ages. Here we go. I don't sue girls up. really
Starting point is 00:16:19 I know you're a fly DJ and everything really and I should be honored that you want to work with me but I mean I'm just not into the games I'm not playing games I'm serious so there you go that's kind of that's you know we don't know if they're going to get together but they do and that was immediately after
Starting point is 00:16:42 he had been saying the same thing to Padma Lakshmi and then he discovers that Mariah Carrie was the one doing the singing. Right, because they were basically like Terrence Howard kind of shit on her. She did like a storm off riff. But up until that point, wait a minute. Up until that point, we had no idea she was angry or frustrated with her. With anything.
Starting point is 00:17:08 She was fine. She was fine with it. She was just living her life. She was fine being like. Because she wasn't giving her best stuff. She was saving it for Dice. who his name is Dice in the movie, he also goes by Dice Man.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I mean, how mad was Andrew Dice Clay when he sees this? That's his whole thing. But Dice Man is, I just still don't understand how, like, I guess now, like, who's a big DJ, like, Tiesto or, like, like, Scrillix? Like, yeah, like, would you,
Starting point is 00:17:37 but that guy? What? He's a DJ. Screlex. Did I say his name wrong? Like, it's like, breaking, like, R&B performers? But, like, a club owner. Apparently, like, the manager of the club, the DJ of the club, also, like, a big record producer and an artist manager. Who seems to have no other clients, or hits, for that matter.
Starting point is 00:18:04 To me, the more believable story would be like, I've always wanted to produce. Trust me and we'll get there. Instead of, like, setting him up as, I know you're the hottest producer in the world. He's not. No. Not at all. He didn't even have a keyboard. He has nothing, he has nothing except for that black tank top that he wears so much.
Starting point is 00:18:26 It's true about the keyboard because his, he has a beautiful scene. He has an apartment filled with musical instruments. And then she gets him a shitty keyboard. It's like, that shitty yama. It's not very big at all. He's like, oh my God, you got me this. and there's nothing more uncool than watching someone on an electric keyboard
Starting point is 00:18:52 composed music right he's like putting the bass the beat on he's like oh my favorite thing about him though is that he loves the marimba yes which is
Starting point is 00:19:06 you know and Mariah Carey when she first sees the marimba's like what is this like some kindergarten thing he's like no it's my favorite instrument and that's where she gets all hot for him that's the moment that's the turning point is him playing this thing
Starting point is 00:19:21 the whole movie is different people watching other people sing or perform the marimba and just being like with no emotion or express and it's just like mm-hmm yeah and then that person in the next scene watching that same person just like everyone's watching
Starting point is 00:19:35 everyone and just loving their music making the one thing I did like that they kept with that marimba was like later on in the movie not to jump ahead but they you know obviously they have a falling out Mariah and dice and like No. Yeah, it's happening, guys. And he's composing his own music, but he's playing the marimba.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Like, he's making tracks with a marimba being the lead instrument. He's like, and showing the drummer how he's fucking up. Like, no, you're not doing it right. What was the purpose of that? Follow a marimba. So weird. Well, I really enjoyed their first date. Oh.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Yeah. When she was like, is this a date? What's going on? It was so suspicious, like she thought he was going to kill her or something. But yet she was also really excited about the date looking out the window. She was like, ooh, a limo's here. Oh, it's a date. She's like, it's not a date.
Starting point is 00:20:22 But she's dressed for a date. And then she's like, what's with these snails? But she and her friends are all a flutter about this date. But the previous like 10 minutes of the movie was a montage of them spending all of their time together. Yeah, it did not seem like this was out of the norm at all. No, they're just going to go get dinner. Like, they're always together. They were holding hands on the street before that.
Starting point is 00:20:50 That might have been like a reshoot situation, you know, where they had the rose thing at the end, not to jump to Madison Square Garden. And then they're like, oh, fuck, we got to set up that rose. Right. Let's all go back to Toronto. But they accidentally drop that scene in 20 minutes after they were supposed to. They're like, you know what, we're locked. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:11 I also will say that, I don't know, this is little things. Bug me, but it looked like that limo did not have a driver when it pulled up. It looked like he drove that limo to the date. Like, yeah, CMZ gave me this limo, but no driver. Get in the back. Oh, that was one thing. When he's talking about the record companies that are going to be at the dance club to discover new artists, he says, EMI, Warner Brothers, and CMZ are all going to be here.
Starting point is 00:21:44 It's like, oh, I wonder which one the movie's going to end up using. They do a great, like a bunch of great stuff like that. Like when she performs on late night live, which is Saturday Night Live. They do a lot of like switching that. But, oh, I also like when they go meet with CMZ, like they come in. They go, oh, we're so glad you're here. You're signed. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Yeah, you were coming in for the signing meeting. Right. The champagne and the floor dictated. The main boss can't be here. I was like, why? She's kind of a big deal. Everyone should come meet her. Chili B is trying to sign her at the club.
Starting point is 00:22:22 But the night before that meeting, they see the label guys, and the guys are like, why don't you come in tomorrow and we'll sit down and chat? They're like, okay, then they go in and they're all drinking champagne and celebrating. But they never have that meeting where they decide that this is what the right? It almost seems like they walked in. And if they would have continued to take the rest of the meetings or the rest of the day, they may have been signed at a different label. They just like first come first serve.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Like, hey, you're here. You're signed. What? Aw. We got you first. You would think that Mariah Carey at one point would just like pipe up and go, actually, no, this is not how this business works. I know because I am a huge gigantic star in this world. Like I have a little life experience.
Starting point is 00:23:09 She was also married to a record, you know, Tommy Motola who ran. So she definitely was like, oh, all of this is wrong, by the way. But now, what's... I'm Mariah Carey. Was this guy supposed to be Tommy Motola? I think so. Because they were married... Tommy Matola and her were married in 93,
Starting point is 00:23:28 deteriorating by 95, and divorced in 98. And Mariah Carey called their house Sing Sing because he would never let her leave and called their marriage a private hell. Awesome. I believe it. Yeah, but this guy... was pretty abusive to her, but also she kind of always liked him.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Yeah, and at the end, she's totally devastated when he's murdered for weird reason. Can we talk about his murder or not yet? Yeah, why not? We could jump all the way around. Because that really, when it got good for me, was when he was shot in the shoulder. Yeah. And then later they say he was shot in the chest. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:11 He saw him get shot in the shoulder. He also clearly, like, went right into his shoulder, which he could have shot him in the heart. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Yes. But then, you know, he could have got, but in the shoulder, the shoulder, that means he probably really, probably has bled to death on the street. That or unless he is cut out too early, it was a real violent ending. Yeah. He shot him five times, curbed him, and this ran back.
Starting point is 00:24:37 If you haven't seen the movie, basically what is going on is Terrence Howard sells. Mariah Carey for $100,000 and it seems like she's making that money in spades as a certain point. She's a giant. I'm not paying it. Yeah. Yeah. Dice is not going to... He's not worried about it at all.
Starting point is 00:24:54 When Terrence Howard says it's $100,000, dice is like, all right. But like, we're supposed to get that he can't afford it, but he's a DJ. He's very popular and he runs a record label and he owns the things. I thought he actually paid him off. I didn't think like when he said $100,000. He's like, oh, yeah, he paid that. He seemed fine with it at
Starting point is 00:25:09 first. Yeah, he was like, uh, and then I was like, okay. And then it was like, no, this is a problem. And I didn't get that scene when Dice kind of confronts Terrence Howard. He's like, is there food in your fridge? He's like, yeah, I didn't understand that. That was. Yeah, and is he saying like, you don't need $100,000?
Starting point is 00:25:25 Yes. And then Terrence Howard seemed to be like, good point. Yes. No, he was. He was like, good point, but still, I would appreciate the money you owe me. Right, right. And then the scene when Terence Howard came and came behind Mariah Carey, she was in the house like 40 minutes before she noticed that he was standing behind her.
Starting point is 00:25:43 She was, like, talking for so long to Dice the other room, like, baby, we're going to do this and we're going to, whew! But she turned around like 40 minutes after you've been standing there. Terrence is a creeper, man. He just hangs out. Yeah. And then Dice beats the shit out of Terrence Howard. Right. And he's in the wrong.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Yeah. Like, Dice is wrong. Like, yes. This movie actually proves to me as it goes on, like, oh, I'm glad she's not with Dice. Dice is not the right girl guy for Billy. Dice is a horrible person. Dice is a horrible person. He could also. He called her friend a And he called the other one something. Oh, let me, let me, let me, uh, let me, uh, let me show that scene.
Starting point is 00:26:18 This is a, uh, so, you know, uh, obviously Dice is on the way out. And just one, one part to make here is like, when Dice is on the way out, uh, they also kick out to Brat and Roxy. Yeah. Uh, they get them out too. And there, we continue to check in with her two friends, but they don't seem to have any career ambition. Like, where are they doing?
Starting point is 00:26:42 Are they just still dancing? And when they kick them out, when they're shooting the music video, they're like, oh, we got to get rid of them. Then they cut to the two friends, and one of the two friends, De Bratz's like, fuck this. And she walks out right before they go and fire. Like, why would you choose a shot of her walking off set? Yeah, before the big reveal of, we're making you fire your best friends. Right. And that music video scene, by the way.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Oh, man. It's very long. Everything about this movie is very long. Yes. The director is quoted as saying that it was the funniest scene in the movie and that he loved that guy. He just loved that actor. It's like a scene. It's like Juan Pablo from The Bachelor is directing a music video.
Starting point is 00:27:32 And he makes them replace the hot girls with like naked men. And he's German. Yes. And it's weird. And it's not any more ridiculous than it was before. It's just slightly different. Yeah, and those girls were not bad. But yeah, they're like, oh, yeah, it's his vision.
Starting point is 00:27:51 It's his vision. It's like, again, this is not how this industry works. A director would have, like, a storyboard. He wouldn't be like, oh, wait, she brought her own backup dancers. Oh, shit. I got a whole different plan for this music video. Like, it doesn't just change instantly. Like, you just can't do that on the fly, but it seemed like, oh, no, no,
Starting point is 00:28:08 We changed the whole music video in five minutes. We got him out. Anyway, Dice is upset. They're like, this guy's a really hot director. You have to do what he says. You got to listen to this German director. This is after Eric Bonaise has come on the scene. Yes, Eric Bonaise is on the scene.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And Dice is in jealous, and this is where he lashes out against our two friends. They didn't want to actually write a song with you if you were, you know, properly dressed? What is that supposed to mean? What it means is look at everything. Everything is hanging out. Where do you get this from anyway? I got this from you. Why don't you just leave her alone, okay?
Starting point is 00:28:43 Hey, mouth, did I ask you? You're just mad because you don't produce her no more. Get over it. Louise, don't say that. Hey, Louise, you know what? I produce just something a little more than a body pop, fat ass. Dice, fat ass. Who are you calling fad ass?
Starting point is 00:28:57 You got plenty of ass. You do not talk to her like that. I've told you once. Don't mouth off again, Roachback. Dice! Shut up! Okay, you know what? Let's just get out of here.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Calm down, you guys. Excuse me? Could you pull over? Look, he doesn't know what he's saying. He's drunk, okay? You're drunk. Apologize. What's the matter with you?
Starting point is 00:29:14 Look, you're drunk. He's drunk. Did you pull over? Yeah, pull over. And also no limo driver in that scene. Yeah, no limo driver. They couldn't afford anyone to say, okay. Did he call her a roach bag?
Starting point is 00:29:32 That's a real. That's a term you might call a bad apartment, but a human being. mean that like roaches live on her. Again, that wasn't an 80s outfit. Like, I think that was like pure like 1991, 1993, cross colors. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. The brat was wearing the clothes that the brat wore on tour with Chris Cross.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Everybody brought their own wardrobe. I have written down here, does she want to be a singer? Is she interested in the music business? Well, also, I would like to segue to. just into Mariah herself. Yeah. Sure. I think that's, yes.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Yeah, she... Thoughts, comments, concerns? Mariah is an interesting character in this, obviously, because she doesn't really have a passion. Wait, in real life? No, no, no. In the movie.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Sorry, I should say Billy Franks. The character, Billy Franks. Who is Mariah, okay, MRI. Yeah, she's an odd character. Very passive character. Yeah, you can't tell if she's
Starting point is 00:30:36 Coming or going. An annoyed, thrilled, in love, angry. Every expression looks like she's about to laugh. She's like... Yeah. It's like, is the laugh coming or is it sad? Well, that's also her cry face
Starting point is 00:30:52 because her cry face is like... Just like, it's never going to get there. I will admit in the scene where she was asking about her mom when she suddenly decided to go try to find her mom. Yeah. I felt for her. Wow. I did.
Starting point is 00:31:05 I thought she handled that scene. pretty well when she put the glasses on. And I know nobody wants to hear it, but I don't know if I'm overly emotional period, but I didn't mind that scene. I want to hear it. Thank you. I just, that, I thought that was a nice thing. It really turned
Starting point is 00:31:20 the crowd off. It's it's Mariah Carey, you know, starring in this movie. So you know she had like an acting coach on set who was just like, you know, by the side, it's being like, you were fucking killing this. You are doing this. And DeBrat's looking at her like, yeah, we're fucking doing
Starting point is 00:31:36 is Mariah? Yeah. Okay, but let me ask, did anyone see Mariah in Precious? No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Oh, yeah. Wait, you saw you see Precious? I got confused for a second. Yes. They're so similar. I saw it. I loved it. It was great.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Did you see her in the butler? Was she in the butler? I did not see the butler. I'm sorry. She was in the butler? Wasn't she? No. She was.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Yeah, I know. How many people saw the butler? Not one person. If everyone saw the butler and I said that, hilarious applause break, but everyone's like, I don't think I saw that. I was trying to pinpoint, like, I was trying to figure out, like, maybe the director was like, let's just keep it loose. Look, forget about the words.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Let's just play. And so she's like, okay, let's play. But she just kind of locked into this weird thing. It is an odd choice because I feel like even her stage persona, like her stage persona as a singer is similar to her stage persona and this is an actor which is very like Sultry
Starting point is 00:32:40 Sultry doesn't translate as a thing I don't think And is her stage persona in the movie different than her stage persona Because I was trying to think of like As a performer in Like real life Mariah Carey
Starting point is 00:32:55 She's a good performer Right like I would imagine she's a good performer Yeah but she doesn't have a stage crowd Geez yes No she's It's Mariah Carey she could stand on a stage and sing and everyone's like yeah but she's not like yeah dan she can stand on the stage and sing right she's maria carrie i'm taking up maria's caught
Starting point is 00:33:15 i do want to also talk about like the only like real difference is like her hair straightens as she gets more famous that's a big thing and she's this constantly in different gowns and she's doing a lot a lot of wardrobe a lot of wardrobe changes in this she dresses like mc in the beginning of the movie and then becomes like a very graceful it's like MC Scatcat and Lance Armstrong next to go now Dice
Starting point is 00:33:45 makes the very cool choice of at the whatever it is the USA Music Award USA Music Awards that's the best part she's in the limo and they're like hey we just got a call you have to perform the USA Music Award right now
Starting point is 00:34:01 what we're turning the limo around right now. And they turn it around and she shows up like, oh, hey, get on stage, sing your song. And that's when she's like, can someone call dice? She could never call dice herself. She's always like, can someone call dice? There need to be some explanation like, why right now.
Starting point is 00:34:18 That never happens. That never happens. MC Hammer was murdered right now. He's like, get there, go perform. Like, that all happened within like three hours. But Dice did, like, oh, you think like, oh, they're blowing off Dice. Like, Dice can't make it. Dice can't make it. But then he was there.
Starting point is 00:34:34 they're at the American Music Awards in his open black t-shirt where apparently Lionel Richie has swept the awards because everything was like, Lionel Richie, like the whole movie is told through like bad news reporter, but it's like, today, Lionel Richie won a bunch of awards here.
Starting point is 00:34:52 And then when they leave. Every major plot point is just a newscast. The newscaster delivers all the important information. Well, speaking of, you know, Mariah's acting, the last newscaster when reporting on Dice is murder. That was really
Starting point is 00:35:06 just her going, not a train. And then a bunch of people in big suits going, we're really sorry. And also the room they're in backstage at Madison Square Gardens is literally it looks like a
Starting point is 00:35:22 room at an, like a Hyatt. Yeah, like a Hyatt with kind of an Asian flair. I was going to say it looked like a low budget James Bond villain a layer. Yes. And By the way, like, all right, so you see that Dice get shot, and then she's like, where is Billy Franks?
Starting point is 00:35:40 Where is she? She's like, it seems like the concept. It's like 805. Why was Billy late if she didn't know that he was shot? She doesn't know why she's late. Like, he was shot. Like, so she's, like, everyone's bad at their job because like she shows up like five minutes late to her own concert. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Not knowing that Billy Frank. Not knowing that Dice was shot. Right. It just happens to see the news report and then does the show. I was happy with that. And the fact that the New York City, Toronto News reports on that murder immediately is impressive. Someone's murdered. Get the camera crew.
Starting point is 00:36:14 But it's also there's the time. She goes to Dice's apartment right before that big show. And he's not there. She just wants to like. Tinker on the ivory. Feel him in the ivories. Because she realizes that even though he's abusive and mean, she loves him. She loves him.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Did she have a piano or was she at the Yamaha? She was at that real piano. But then I was like, but why not at the Yamaha? Right. She gave it to him. Why give him a Yamaha if you had a real piano? And why was he so fucking psyched about the Yamaha? I'm sure like the props guy, I can't imagine that the crew was, you know, together on this movie.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I'm sure they got to that scene. They're like, oh, where's a Yamaha? And he's like, oh, I brought it to this other fucking movie. Just have her play the piano. They're like, all right, action. That's right. They're shooting down the block and they needed it for a scene. I really did look for the Yamaha in that.
Starting point is 00:37:04 I did not see it in that scene. It just was nowhere to be about. He probably destroyed it after they broke up. Like, ah, I hate this, Yama. Casey, I think you're going to get to the point that you're talking about, maybe the continuity thing, right? Yes. Well, please bring it up, and then I want to show you something.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Well, just some continuity, many continuity issues throughout it seemed. Some lipstick when she kisses the music note. It just seems very off to me, but maybe I'm... When he finds it later, it looks completely different. Oh, well, the thing I was... noticing was that when she first comes there she sees a picture of them and it's them like, it's like him like
Starting point is 00:37:39 hey! And she's like I love you! In front of a brick wall. In front of a brick wall. They were at the improv. And then and then
Starting point is 00:37:56 as she writes her note, they fade back down to that picture and it's a completely different picture. It's him kissing. It's them kissing. So a lot of people go, oh, that is a continuity problem. Thankfully, there's a director's commentary track. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Did you watch it with the commentary? I have clips of the commentary track. And the commentary track, this is one of the best commentary. If you have the means, buy the DVD for 98 cents on Amazon and enjoy this commentary because it's full of chunks and little things like this. So here we go. And it's got this wonderful ride at Magic Realist moment
Starting point is 00:38:38 where she kisses a photo. And it's not the same photo that we saw when she picked it up. After, after she kisses the piece of music you look at, we zoom in on the lipstick, her heart, the billy. And if you look at the picture,
Starting point is 00:38:59 the picture is now, they're now kissing. This one of those very subtle, sort of magical realist moments in the picture. What? Magical realism. What? For those of you who did not know what was happening, magical realism. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:39:26 But they like... That made me feel really sad. Jesus. He was making that up as he went along. Yeah. I think this was the first time he saw the movie. He's like, oh, God, yes. What the fuck did I do?
Starting point is 00:39:45 There was something else that happened right there that I was going to point out, and it's right at the end of that. I think this is about maybe the thing. Please, because I think I have an issue with this too. She's walking out, and he's walking in. Yes. And it's supposed to be one of those near misses like, oh, shit, just me. But it's literally they would have seen each other. they would have just been like
Starting point is 00:40:04 oh hey hey dice now here's my issue with it and I'll turn the volume on it but the idea is she's walking the mattress is breaking them up right so my thought is when the mattress clears frame there should be dice he shouldn't be coming in from the side
Starting point is 00:40:21 of frame like if you're a director you'd be like oh she doesn't see him because he's over here but no he's just over there he's going the same direction And it's the mattress. Paul.
Starting point is 00:40:33 The same mattress direction. That's magical realism. Right there. She definitely would have like seen him. Like as she was like turning around being like, oh, dice. He would have been like, oh, hey. Piano, where's your Yamaha? You know.
Starting point is 00:40:47 There's a bunch of. The one thing I just want to talk, again, little things that get caught in my mind that I feel like it's worthy of talking about is when she goes on Saturday Night Live. And I want to just applaud the sketch that was happening on Saturday Night Live. I do not, unfortunately, the blow-dryer briefcase sketch. So she's, like, getting ready. Again, very late. Like, they're like, okay, Billy, you're on in, like, four minutes, and she's just arriving at S&L.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Like, there was no rehearsal time. There's nothing. Like, she's being ushered in moments before her performance. Terrible management all around, public everything. No one gets her anywhere in there's enough time. That's her whole career. The publicist is working hard. Her whole career is like, we got to go now.
Starting point is 00:41:30 You're out in five. And then she's like, called ice. But yeah, the blow-dry briefcase is one of my favorite scenes. But here's actually a little thing about that. The publicist character was supposed to have a thick Swiss-Sash-German accent. Like all publicists. But the studio felt that since this was the 80s, the accent wouldn't work in tandem with the costumes. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Because that's the problem. That's the problem with this movie, the publicist accent. I'm glad this studio was choosing to micromanage things like that. And just let the big picture stay as it was. Other little things from the commentary track that I just realized I have this page here. Max Beasley, is the guy who you worked with in the great film TORC, led the way for Fast and Furious films. Yes. He toured with George Michael and Jamiroquai.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Oh, like, is a singer-dancer? I guess as a marimba player, drums and piano. I mean, he toured with them. I mean, he plays drums and piano. Super nice, very cool guy, by the way. He's touring with Jemir, Quiet, and George Michael. The talented dude. It has to be cool.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Yeah. And this is another funny thing from the commentary track. The director originally didn't want to do the movie because he wasn't interested in working with singers. He wanted to work with actors. But after he saw Mariah Carey's audition tape for Shaft, He signed on to direct. For the Samuel L. Jackson shaft.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Mariah Carey did not get that part. Everyone else was like, oh, oh. Wow. And then this is one more little fact. This is another fact. The director of Glitter thought that one of the funniest scenes in the movie was the music video shoot. The director is making her wear a bikini. Apparently the intent of the scene is that the director,
Starting point is 00:43:24 English was his second language, and his vision was getting lost in the translation. That was the game of the scene that we might not have gotten. Whoa. I actually figured that out. So just some little tips that you might get in there. Man. It's pretty great. What happened to Eric Bonae?
Starting point is 00:43:46 I'm like, did I forget how that ended with him? He just faded away. Eric Bonae, basically everyone was like, Dice is bad for you. You need to team up with Eric Bonae. But I love the world in which Dice is like an abuser and a womanizer. and Eric Bonae is the saint. Yeah. Yeah, they recorded a duo, like a song, it became number one.
Starting point is 00:44:07 She played Madison Square Garden. Bye. See you later. He's done. He served his purpose. See you later. See you later, Eric Bonae. Well, let's go to the audience, because we have a couple more calls,
Starting point is 00:44:15 but let's go to the audience here and see if there's anything that we might have missed. So let's get these house lights up. All right, we've got a lot of hands. All right, let's see. Let's see what people are saying. All right, I'm going to go to you first. What is your name? What would you have called Billy Franks?
Starting point is 00:44:31 What would you given her the name of and your question? My name is Cora. I would have given her the name seductive sultress. Oh, nice. I like that. And my question is, when you were listening to the commentary, did they say anything about Mariah Carey's cats? Great question.
Starting point is 00:44:53 That cat lived a long time. Yeah. The cat went away for, a majority of the movie. An hour and ten minutes. And then on the stairwell, I'm like, is that the same cat? Well, they make a big deal out of it because she has the cat as a child, but then when she breaks up with dice, you see her like grabbing the cat and leaving.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Like, and I'm taking this cat with me. Yeah. Yeah, you're like, oh, yeah, that's the cat. Like, I fucking forgot about that stupid cats. How did I miss the cat entirely? When she went into the order. You wouldn't know it because the cat really is barely in the movie, but is grabbed as an exclamation point.
Starting point is 00:45:28 when she storms out of Dice's apartment and I'm taking the cat and the cat's head is just in her hands it's a nice two shot to be fair the cat is in the first 40 seconds of the movie apparently Mariah didn't like working with the cat so yes your name what you would have called Mariah Carey's
Starting point is 00:45:44 character and your question yeah my name's Carrie I would have called her character beige she is a beige woman she's like khaki she's a khaki woman well it wasn't so much about like Well, costuming was definitely part of it,
Starting point is 00:46:00 but it was just more her general attitude towards the middle. Ooh, interesting. I like that. So the beginning is a flashback scene, and then at the end of the flashback scene, we get the transition that's like the whoosh. And then it's supposed to be in the present. But no, it's still in the past.
Starting point is 00:46:15 And then there's another scene. Woosh, still in the past. Yes. This goes on for like five times. Yeah. Yeah, me too. Well, we haven't talked about transitions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:27 let's hear it for transitions it's a lot of that like raving type of stuff throughout the well let's just talk about the fireworks that's a ballsy move for any filmmaker yeah let's put some fireworks
Starting point is 00:46:45 in this one transition scene there were several times they weren't exactly transitions but there were just times when it would when the scene would speed up yeah that and it was just because these stupid, shitty, terrible shots they were getting
Starting point is 00:47:01 were taking too long, so they had to speed them up, right? Yes, like when Taryn Towers and Dice were walking through the bar and then it just was like in three phases. Yep, yeah. Yep. Okay. It's like they sped that stuff up, but again, like the first part of the movie is 55 minutes long.
Starting point is 00:47:20 All right, ma'am, your name and your question. My name is Walaiska. Nice to meet you. there was a part when after they went to bed together the first time made love she was saying when they fucked she said
Starting point is 00:47:38 I don't generally do this and then he was really mean and he said oh I can tell I forgot about that yeah he said I can tell and then she gave him an absolutely blank look and he said, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:47:58 She gave him another blank look and then the scene ended. All right, sir, your name, your song title, a dice-produced song track, or Billy Frank's alternate name, and your question. My name is Brian.
Starting point is 00:48:20 My dice song is Trouble in Paradise. Whoa. Oh, nice. Yeah. Very nice. Very good. And there's a scene halfway through the movie where it's shortly after she tries to find her mother and then she finds a homeless woman on the street.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Thank you. Thank you for bringing this up. He looks at her and then just walks away and then nothing has ever, nothing happened. That's a good point. We were talking about this backstage. What do you think happened there? Was it a dream? Because why wouldn't you at least stop?
Starting point is 00:48:55 Right? Like you would... Magical realism, I'm hearing. Magical realism. All right, yes. When in doubt, it's magical realism. I'm gonna come over here. Your name, your dice song track, and your question.
Starting point is 00:49:09 My name is Erica. My dice song track is going brawless because there was a lot of brawless moments. My question is, if you notice, and if you know this about Mariah, she only likes to be photographed from her right side. and there's, I think, one scene in the movie where the director got her left side doesn't say anything in the commentary of how long he had to talk to her
Starting point is 00:49:31 to get her to shoot from her bad side. Ooh, that's a, no. In the commentary track, he is effusive about every actor except for Mariah Garrick. Really? He's not mean about her, but he's diplomatic.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Really? Yes. So that is, that speaks volumes. All right, let's see. I'm going to ask, I'm going to see what your question is. All right. Your name, your dice track, and here we go.
Starting point is 00:49:57 My name's Tony. Of course, the dice track has to be Dice, Dice, Baby. Nice. It's back. I'm very surprised that the studio made a casting choice based on it being an 80s movie because there's so little reason for it to take place in the 80s, I could have sworn it was added in post.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Well, we talked about that. Yeah, it could have been a post. Yeah, there is not. She's not an 80s singer by any means. I know. I was just waiting for Dice to do. a bunch of coke. That would have been like such the easy thing.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Like it's the 80s dice. Just do coke in every scene. All right, okay. Yeah. There are two things. There's Coke everywhere. What's the movie rated? Like PG-13?
Starting point is 00:50:37 PG-13, yeah. Oh, that's what they could do coke. Well, I would say this. So they could say you're a badass. The mom was a smoking addict. Yeah. There's like two things that upset me about it. Number one, like I go into this movie and I think, well, at least there'll be some great
Starting point is 00:50:52 Mariah Carey songs. Not a one! Not a one! No, they're all terrible. Just fake bad songs. They're all so breathy and short. You don't even get... You don't get a real Mariah performance.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Not that I want it, but you don't get it. I was waiting for it. I just kept on hearing that stupid silk song over and over again. Like, no, no. This movie actually made me really happy that Gwen Stefani didn't try her hand at acting. Like, I actually have more respect for her.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I was like, you know what? You did it right. because Gwen Stefani could have done this, but she said, no, I'm a fucking singer. Yeah. I saw her kids in Ralph's last weekend. I'm sure she's raising them with the same smartness that she did when she probably turned down her movie. No, she wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Someone else with their kids. Oh, my gosh, you have a notebook. All right, we heard your question. I actually have a song title as well. It would have been, Honey, you've got a bunch of ass or whatever he says in the limo. I like it. Yeah, but my question is,
Starting point is 00:51:51 She was trying to find her mom for so long, but she knew who her real dad was. Why didn't she ever try and find her dad? Well, the dad abandoned her, though. I mean, that was it. Or the dad didn't want anything to do with her. The mom, it seems weird, because the mom seemed to give her up without any issue.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I guess they both of them. I think the mom was just like, look, I'm a smoker. I can't raise you. How come the mom, you know, Mariah's biggest dream, you know, and it sounds silly. but it was for the mom to be sitting in the audience and be proud of her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:25 How come Billy's dream for her at the end wasn't that the mom was at Madison Square Garden? No shit. It was like, gotta go see mom in Maryland. Well, by the way, Billy's letter at the end of the movie, we haven't even gotten into that. Yeah. The best thing in the, Billy is now dead. Oh, no, no, I'm sorry, Dice's letter. Dice's letter.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Sorry, Dice is been shot to death. But luckily he went to Madison Square Garden, dropped the, off a handwritten letter and one rose and wrote a letter that it would explain everything just in case he was shot. He basically was like, so sorry we fought, I love you too. By the way, found out about your
Starting point is 00:53:03 mom. Here's where she lives. Got to go see after the show. Bye-bye. Like, say some of that for after the show. Like, hey, great job. By the way, I found your mom. Like, you don't have to put that all in the letter. P.S. I feel like I might get shot tonight. Wait, how does she know who her dad?
Starting point is 00:53:21 That is. Because in the beginning, they go to that guy's house and knocks on the door, remember? He handed the money. Oh, yeah. Was the mom just recently fired? No, she was on fire.
Starting point is 00:53:36 No. She did. She said, I just got fired. I didn't know if that was real. I think she was lying because she's an addict of smoking. Right. She needed money for cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Again, and I'm so sorry to bring it up, and it's not to be funny. I'm genuinely asking, Why didn't Dice bring the mom to Madison Square Garden? They had an attempt at a kind of a nice ending. Casey, we don't know. But wait, we'll never know. Great answer.
Starting point is 00:54:03 No one would have been a great ending if he was like, he was like on the phone. He was like, yes, yes, she's performing tonight. I'll come pick you up. All right, I'll be right there. And then Terrence Howard was like, bam. Like that would have been more fulfilling as like a moment. There is no connective tissue in this movie. Nothing, just the cat, is connected.
Starting point is 00:54:24 All right, yes, your question. The notebook is open. There's many things in there. Thoughts are in there. All right, your name, your song title, your question, go. Okay, my name's Maria. My Dice song title would be Elton John look alike because there's definitely a scene in the club
Starting point is 00:54:38 where I thought he was Elton John for like the full scene because he looks exactly like. Dice looks like Elton John? He's got like the round glasses and he's just kind of sit and chilling. He doesn't say anything. I thought they got Elton John.
Starting point is 00:54:50 drawn for the movie and I got excited for a second. All right. Nice has round glasses. I don't remember this scene, but... One scene. She's got a notebook, so I believe her. Okay, okay. I feel like she paid more...
Starting point is 00:55:02 All right. Three of us are. So it's always great when they can manage to work in the title of the movie into a line and that happens during that excellent music video scene when the director says the glitter cannot overpower the artist.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Which I feel like the screenwriter wrote that line and sat back and was like, nailed it he was like done for the day yeah I just saved the cat he's like I was gonna have the mom coming Madison Square Garden not anymore he got real lazy I'd see who has a good question guys there's so many great questions I don't even as a wealth of great ones I'm gonna ask you because here's my question right your name your song title your question here we go all right my name is Paul my song title no that album I'd probably call it song in the key of Yamaha. Oh, I like that. And then what gets me is, all right, when you get into the movie
Starting point is 00:55:55 and they do put what year it is, it says 1983. And then the ticket on there says she's performing and it's dated in July. So she got famous and all that stuff in six months. And then she was told that she had to change her sound. She hadn't even put out an album yet. That's a very good Yeah, she had just basically had a single, and you've got to change it. People are sick of this single. All right. It got bumped to the second on the charts. Yeah, that was a big deal.
Starting point is 00:56:28 All right, your name, your song title, and your question. My name is Ashika. My song... Made up. That could be Billy Frank's name. Yeah, could be. I like that. My song title would be, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:56:42 party like it's 1993 because that seemed like the actual date this movie like it are and my question is can we talk
Starting point is 00:56:49 about Dice's accent good question yeah what do you think where do you think he's from I guess since Adam knows him
Starting point is 00:56:56 is he not American he's British he's British oh I didn't know that but that doesn't explain the accent because it was kind of like
Starting point is 00:57:05 he's like a New York a lot of British people do American accents they they feel like they take like Robert DeNeroe kind of like, like a thing, yeah. One more question, one more question.
Starting point is 00:57:18 There's so many good ones I can go to the back. Like Lucky Seven. Yeah. Oh my gosh. You have a good question? You think you have a good question? Who has a good question? Really have a good question.
Starting point is 00:57:28 All right, you do. All right. I think, all right. Did someone say no when you asked to be? I think so. Honestly, no. Hands go down. I'll sit back down.
Starting point is 00:57:36 It is a great thing you make everybody think about it. There's no bad questions because we only have bad answers. All right, here we go. Your name, song title, question. Okay. My name is Naomi. My song title would be, I'll only kiss you twice.
Starting point is 00:57:50 That's terrific. They only kiss twice in the whole movie. And the lyrics to the song that she's singing about her mom are, you could have had the decency to give me up before you gave me life. Oh. So that's not so much a question as a terrible downer. But it's worthy of talking about because I thought, the mom was very, like, good with her.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I mean, she made sure she went to a bar where they served milk in shock glasses. Then she forced her on the stage to sing. Yeah. Then she burnt down her house. Well, obviously, they reunite. Obviously, they reunited. And I want to show the director's commentary track
Starting point is 00:58:34 for the reunition. I just wanted to say real quick, there's that scene when they're in the cab and the song comes on the radio for the first time. Oh, yes. And they're like, get it. He's like, you got to get,
Starting point is 00:58:46 he gets out of the cab. It's so confusing. It's like, oh, so you're on, you haven't been on the radio yet? Okay. Like, there's no. Their success level is so unclear. It makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Well, he runs out of the cab, grabs a homeless person, hugs him. That was the first stop. And then she's like, give me, give me, give me change. She keeps asking him for something. I don't know what she's talking about.
Starting point is 00:59:11 And he gives her a couple. quarters. She runs over the phone booth and there's a little kid making a phone call. Like a nine-year-old just chatting on the phone. Yeah. They're like, please just let, she's on the radio right now. Let us have the phone and he's like
Starting point is 00:59:26 he gives them the phone and then he says, she's on the radio, can I get her autograph? And Dice is like, Dice said, I don't got a pen, baby. And the kid like goes away. But the way, the way the movie goes, it would have made more sense if Dice
Starting point is 00:59:44 was like, hey, the radio called. They need you to be over at the radio station to sing the single right now, because it's popular. Totally. So, all right, here is, let's check in with the end of the movie so we can kind of get the idea of what you
Starting point is 01:00:04 dummies missed. Because, clearly, there's a lot of symbolism here that none of you, none of you got. So Mariah Carey takes her limo All the way to Maryland To her mom's house And her mom recognizes her immediately
Starting point is 01:00:23 So her mom is very aware of Billy Franks I would imagine, okay She's been famous for six months The juxtaposition of the gown Glitter In the In the country On the grass
Starting point is 01:00:39 And her mother in the country house And her mother in the country house I thought it's a wonderful way to in the picture where though there has been lost this new beginning and ultimately
Starting point is 01:00:53 you're never too far away so does he ever does he ever once during the commentary track just say look this is the last one I will be doing
Starting point is 01:01:11 Like, I'm sorry. And then you hear a gun shot. He did do it with a gun in his mouth the entire time. The mom looks completely, like she's completely kicked her cigarette habit. Yeah. It's like a nice house. Yeah. The end, it's a very nice house.
Starting point is 01:01:29 It just seems sort of like, well, well, to me, again, the more compelling ending is that she gets her mom like off the street. Like, her mom has rebounded in a great way. Her mom's doing great. She looks amazing. Great. So her mom completely your banded. She's got her shit together and just never... She's in the country. Tried to get in touch with her daughter.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Right. So the mom's also a horrible person. Yeah. The mom's bad. All right. So obviously we had an opinion about this movie. But there are other people out there who had a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. These are five-star reviews of the film Glitter from Amazon.
Starting point is 01:02:09 and this one was written. The title is called Stellar! Glitter shines brightly. Did half of the negative reviewers of this film even see the same film as I did? I saw Glitter starring Mariah Carey and Max Beasley. Is there another film by the same title that I don't know about?
Starting point is 01:02:36 People, it's not as bad as you think. It's actually good. Personally, I think Glitter will do better with a DVD release because it should have gone straight to DVD. But all in all, an excellent and entertaining movie. Even the plot and dialogue are not bad. Five stars. This one is written by Gletta Richardson,
Starting point is 01:03:08 and she titles it, Sunshine. And now, sometimes when you read Amazon reviews, they are not in the best English. So, bear with me. Every day I had this movie on VHS, I watch it so much, it stopped working. So I'm glad I don't have to worry about this DVD not working. That's why I found it.
Starting point is 01:03:32 I had to hurry and purchase it. Now I'm happy. Five stars. This one is called You'll laugh I feel bad for that one This one is called You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll cheer
Starting point is 01:03:49 If it If it weren't for Moulon Rouge This could be the greatest musical Of all time It's not even technically a musical They're barely singing in this movie I think people have it all wrong when it comes to glitter.
Starting point is 01:04:09 It's a fantastic movie and a gritty drama about a biracial singer who climbs to the top. Mariah isn't as good of an actress as Nicole Kidman, but she's getting there. Guys, I wrote this one.
Starting point is 01:04:26 True, it is true. I wrote this one. I thought this sounded like you, Gazing. It also has Eric Bonae, who used to be married to Hallie Perry, who is the world's most talented
Starting point is 01:04:38 actress. Wait. That part doesn't make sense regarding glitter. Don't listen to the dumb haters who trashed this movie. There are a bunch of snot-nosed 15-year-olds who never even watched the DVD
Starting point is 01:04:53 but spent hours listening to Limp Biscuit. Yuck. Anyhow, this movie's a masterpiece. Trust me. That is my favorite movie review of all time. And this one, I'm putting it in just because I don't understand it. This is by Mr. ESM. Mosiah. This movie deserves five stars as it's one of the best movies I've ever seen. I really think all the people should wake up. I mean, of all the modern technologies, people are taking it for
Starting point is 01:05:31 granted. If this movie came out 10 years ago, it would have won an Oscar. 10 years ago? What? Yeah, so... Modern Technologies? I don't know what the modern technologies rant in the middle was. What?
Starting point is 01:05:49 What? What movie won best Oscar 10 years ago? Someone should tell us that. Yeah, we should Google. Anyone put your phone on Google what won in 91? All right, so any final thoughts, guys? Anything that we didn't cover? What was it?
Starting point is 01:06:04 Silence of the Lamb. Silence of the Lamb. Well, that would have been a tough year. Tough category. And then what won in 2001? Yeah, what one in 2001? Or 2002 it should be. Beautiful mine.
Starting point is 01:06:19 That's a tough one. That's a tough year. The winner is. Oh, beautiful minds. Gly. I would recommend this. Oh, yes. This is a good one to watch.
Starting point is 01:06:32 100%. Super fun to watch. And like I said, get that DVD and watch that commentary track. I'm going to. The director has no conception of what he is done. Except for create a masterpiece. Well, usually they do commentary before the movie's actually released. So he probably did it.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Yeah, I know. That is extremely the case from Justin to Kelly. They recorded it right after they rap, and they are consistently talking about, oh, my God, when people see this, They're going to go nuts. They're going to love this. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:07:11 They're reveling in the gigantic success. The grease-like stature. Anyone that likes their own work in general is just such an asshole. So it's just, I don't actually feel that bad. It is. I think the director should have said at the end, and you're welcome. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:28 He did create a masterpiece of sorts. So you would recommend watching it, right? Of course. Of course. Oh, yeah. I definitely would watch this movie over and over again. Well, I think that that is. That's it.
Starting point is 01:07:41 We have done glitter. We have done it up. Please get it up for our amazing panel. Adam Scott, Casey Wilson, Dan Levy, go over all of them. And watch all their amazing shows. Malaney. When does Malaney premiere? October 5th.
Starting point is 01:07:59 When does Marry Me start up? October 14th. And when does Parks and Rec come back? I don't know. All right. Very exciting. What a great show. Give it up one more time for Casey Wilson, Adam Scott, and Dan Levy. I'm only laughing because I'm picturing you applauding them wherever you are.
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