How Did This Get Made? - Gooby w/ Nathan Fielder (Classic)

Episode Date: August 4, 2026

Robbie Coltrane & Eugene Levy star in 2009's Gooby— a movie that proves the age-old adage that a child’s best friend is a 7-foot-tall scary-ass Scottish bear that makes other kids piss their pants. Canada expert Nathan Fielder (The Rehearsal) joins Paul, June, and Jason to discuss all of Gooby's creepy interactions with kids, Gooby's wide ass, Gooby's ability to shrink down into a stuffed animal, why some see Gooby as a monster and others as a man in a costume, and so much more. Plus, Nathan reveals he technically funded the production of this movie. (Ep. #89 Originally Released 07/22/2014) • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Leave us a voicemail at speakpipe.com/hdtgm• Submit your Last Looks theme song here• Join our Discord at discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Finally, a kid's movie that proves the age-old adage that a kid's best friend is a seven-foot tall, scary-ass-looking Scottish bear that makes other kids piss their pants. We saw Gooby, so you know what that means. Now we're how to discriminate. We're going to have a good time, celebrate some failure, not just be a hater, because you know you wonder, how to discrepain?

Let's walk in the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, How did this get made? Hello, people of Earth and welcome to How Did This Get Made? I am Paul Shear, joined as always by Jason Manzukas. How are you, Jason? Oh, I'm terrific, Paul. How are you? Very good.

And June, Diane, Raphael, how are you, June? I'm good, Paul. How are you? Very good. We have a very special guest today from the hit TV show, Nathan for you. Please welcome Nathan. Give it up for a Nathan. Welcome, Nathan. Thanks for having me.

And your show comes back on June 24th. If you've not seen the show, put your DVRs. It's amazing. It's so funny, June 24th, set those DVRs now. But we will wait. So please go to you. Yeah, we'll wait. We'll give you like what, like three minutes?

Yeah, like I was going to say like two, two and a half minutes. No, I'll give you three. Okay, just in case you're powering up. This movie, Gooby, holy moly. People have talked about this movie. Really? I've never heard of this. I've heard about it through people who like bad movies back.

Have you seen Gooby? And so it's been on my radar. I had a question just straight out of the gate. I didn't do any research on this film. And at a certain point, I started to feel as though this might have been a film made for kids dealing with mental illness. Well, I wrote that at all mental illness. Like, as if to say, like, here's a movie. Here's one for you guys.

Like, you're dealing with a lot. Like, the world is, like, like, the kid is definitely having, like, some sort of, like, spells. Well, see, that, I really want to. get into that because that was my biggest question too, which is the setup of Goobie's arrival. Correct. Because it actually, I would argue that he's just a kid with an active imagination. He's not.

And he moves and that's a big change for anyone. I just felt that his active imagination was not, it wasn't like, oh, he's so creative. It was like, his mom says hallucinations. Here's my question. Were the problem starting before he moved out of that house or not? Yes. Yeah. So, okay, so he's in his regular house.

But he's already been to the therapist. The woman, the mom says, you know, doctor, remember what Dr. Such and such said? But here's my question. It seemed like he enjoyed the town and he had friends at his old school. Sure. She didn't want to move. This is what's hard to wrap your mind around because you want to think that it's circumstantial, that something major happens, which is that he's totally uprooted from his life.

and then he's so scared of new experiences and Gooby comes to the rescue. But that's not what happens, which makes me wonder, where was Gooby all along? Yeah. If he was having those problems. Where was Gooby all along?

But also, I felt at a certain point, I was like, oh, this is going to be a Calvin and Hobbs kind of scenario where the Gooby character, only he sees the Gooby as the person. No, everyone sees Gooby. Nope, not true.

Everybody can see Gooby as a giant monster. There's a monster in the world. And so the kid imagines other monsters. Remember that blue monster that's in his backyard? That's one that he's really afraid of, that two-headed blue monster. Yeah, I didn't understand that part. So is that monster? That was called a Hooby.

Hoonies? Hoonies, yeah. Right, which is really close to Gooby. Gooby. Yeah. No, I will. Oh, yeah, there's a real consistency. They're all part of the same filer.

But in the setup of the movie, the kid is kind of telling you his struggle and you don't really empathize with him, right? Because he seems like he's troubled. Like, he seems like he has a harder time than the average kid were dealing with what are kind of basic things. Yeah. Like, well, it seemed like as much as he loved that, like, he seemed like he wasn't healed the proper way either because. From some trauma? I don't know. Was there trauma?

I think it maybe it was just like systematic. bad parenting. Yeah, well, this is a real... The parents in this movie are asshole. The movie is a scathing indictment of two working parent households. Here, take a listen to the mom and how bad she is.

This has gone on long enough, okay? We're moving today. But you're wrecking all my stuff. Unbelievable. Six weeks we've been dealing with this. You're way too old for this behavior. Way way too old. But this is my battle plans. It's my models.

And this is my aim of the... fire keeps me safe from danger. Okay, now I'm hearing, I'm hearing new things upon the second viewing. She's saying that this has been going on for only six weeks. No, the move, the move. This is to establish the time jump, because this scene comes after. So as soon as he starts

preparing for the move, the Hoonies? No, he's drawing the Hoonies in like the first scene. Like they are, he is having full-blown... We're really breaking into the hoonies. He's having full-blown, like, hallucinations that aren't just like a wife, to me, that aren't just an active imagination because we see them brought to life

like in his world. Like when he's visualizing them, he's like, oh my God, there's a hoony over there and he gets really still and whatever. But then also Gooby comes to life. And he's standing over there. And Gooby is not also a

toy that like you would think in a movie like this, like in Calvin and Hobbs, Hobbs is like his toy that he plays with his best friend. His best friend. But this goobie is not his best friend. It's a discarded toy. If anything, in the first 10 minutes. He left it at the house.

Absolutely. In the first 10 minutes, you think the amulet's going to come back. You did? You thought this movie was going to be at the amulet? There were so many references to the amulet and how he's close to that amulet that. I would love it if the amulet instead came to life. As an amulet. Yeah, booby.

Booby the amulet. But I wasn't there. There was, I mean, well, whatever. I feel like Gooby, by the way, the movie's original title was a Ted named Gooby. I guess that's my other question is I didn't think of Gooby as a monster. I thought of him as a teddy bear. I did too, but everybody keeps referring to him as a monster. Okay, which I have an issue with because he doesn't like.

Well, there was the craziest thing too where, like, people who saw him, would see him as a monster. Yeah. But then when Halloween hit, I'm jumping out of order. That's okay. Please, please, yeah, please. It's like, it keeps going. Like, Halloween comes, and then everyone sees it as a man in a costume.

Yes. And then also, throughout the movie, there's just, it's not consistent. When someone says, oh, it's just a guy in a costume, which they use to cover him sometimes, people all believe it. Yeah, it's totally cool. And aren't even, no one's even saying, that's an amazing. That's the greatest costume I've ever seen. People just think it's, oh, that's just a man of costume. Nobody says, oh my God, for a second, I thought that that was a real monster.

Right. Or a bear. Or a bear. Well, my thing is this, it's clearly not a real bear, because it does not look like a real bear, right? There's nothing about it that looks like a real bear. It looks like a man in a costume. And so when Eugene Levy's character... Oh, Eugene Levy's in this movie.

Oh, yeah, yeah. If you're wondering if Eugene Levy's in this movie, he is. And he's awesome. I love Eugene Levy, and I'm excited that he did this. But his character has a lot of things we have to talk about. But when he wants to get a picture of this, what would stop anyone going, well, that's just a picture of a man in a costume. Because, like, that was my issue with it, too. Like, oh, look at this creature.

But then they're like, well, that's the guy in a, like, we don't believe in a big foot picture. Did anyone else notice that they were referring to him a lot as an orange monster? and maybe I'm colorblind, but I didn't think he looked orange. I know this is a small detail. It was like brown. He's brown, as I know it. I would say that as well. But everybody kept calling him.

Did you see the orange monster? I think they already had the script written. Oh, so there were no change. Someone made the prop or whatever, his costume, and then they just said, well, we're not going to change every word to brown. Here's the weirdest thing about the look of Gooby. Oh, this is the weird. thing about the look of Gooby? All right, great.

Gooby is legit, terrifying to look at. Yeah, not a fun creature. Guibi is not lovable. It's not like, Gooby is like... What is his personality? What is his age? Because I also had a real problem with this being...

I felt he was a middle-aged man. There was a middle-aged man taking this young boy out in the middle of the night and, like, deep into the woods. I was like, what is happening? Well, my big concern about this movie was that it was like, like Gooby acts like a child molester, yes, child molester throughout this whole movie like, sit on my lap. Do you trust me?

He says at one point, tomorrow I want you to go an adventure with me. Don't you trust me? I was like, the answer should be no. The lesson we should be teaching children is no. Yeah. I don't trust you to take me to the woods. Because I felt very uncomfortable at the very end not to reveal anything, but. Reveal away.

The very end, when Gooby finds another friend, another child in need who's like this young, very young girl with pigtails. I felt a visceral like, no. Yeah, don't give, don't give. Guby did not want to share his relationship. Maybe it's about like a child dealing with sexual abuse from his father. Yeah. So he's trying to act like it's a fun doll.

It could also be that. It could also be that. By the way, it could totally be that. because I thought for a while that Gooby was going to be, we were going to reveal that Gooby was also in the dad's life. That's what I thought, too. You could argue there is no plot to this movie. This makes Jack Frost seem totally normal.

There's nothing, there's no, there's not, like, literally, I'm not like exaggerating like, oh, there's literally no plot. There's no plot. There's no plot. There are five actors. It's almost like. Brechtian what's happening. It's like so few people

in an environment that has no other people. The entire like hokey kind of of, uh-oh, crazy supermarket scene like somebody's going to see Gooby, they're not, it's empty, there's not a person in the supermarket. But by the way, goobie does not also try to hide in front of people either. No, he loves

talking to everybody. Yeah. Well, that's why I ask again, what is Gooby and who is he? Because there are times where he seems like I would love to say oh Gooby always forgets how big he is and Gooby always forgets his stature

and so just runs out and he thinks he's a that doesn't seem to be the case at points he seems very savvy very savvy very insightful well he brings Willie to the father's old home

Gooby is like going like Stanley Tucci and Lovely Bones on this kid he's bringing him down to weird Well, no, Gooby is not like, I wouldn't even describe Gooby, like, as a character. What is he? One of the first things he did was blow a fart in the kid's face. Yeah. Right? That was the imperfect fart.

That's their bonding moment. Right, yeah. And he also is eating out of a giant tupperware of raw hot dogs. And he goes, watch this. That's a disgusting scene. He takes a bite of a hot dog and just throws it at the kid's face. It was disgusting. As if that's a fun game.

There's also the scene where Gooby first goes to, Willie's trying to find out where to put Gooby in the house. It's a very like E.T. kind of scenario. Yes, and he takes him out to the shed. And Gooby says, I can't, could anyone hear? I also had trouble with like the sound mix in this movie. I couldn't hear a lot of the words. but doesn't Gooby say I can't stay here because there's

Why doesn't he stay in that shed? In the basement, he doesn't stay in the basement because it's too dark And he's clearly afraid of the dark No, that's the first night out in the shed Then he moves from the basement of the shed And that's when Gooby's reading comic books and drawing pictures And at a certain point I was like, he can't sleep Like he's definitely going to jerk off, right?

Like that's what's coming next he's like so like oh I'm up I can't fall asleep oh I might as well pound my gooby he's also watching TV shows like watching very old movies and stuff yeah like like a 40 year old yeah like a 45 year old man in a shed also gooby is voiced by haggard from the harry potter movies Robbie coltrane so that should be noted as well he sounds like an older Scottish gentleman well let's actually play the the scene where we meet uh where we meet Gooby for the first time. Or, yeah, let's hear that one.

Let's get a sense of what Gooby is like. What year? You guessed it. I thought it would take a lot longer than that. No, Hoonies? Hoonies! So Goobie is also afraid of Hoonies. No, he doesn't know what they are, though.

He's like, wait, what's a hoonies? Oh, okay. So that, you know, that's just sort of the gruff, the gruff lovable. Again, I just want to reiterate, this appearance of the magical bear come to life is appearing to a child who is already experiencing hallucinations. Yes, but he's not a hallucination. But Gooby is not a, like, it's not a, he's like a Mr. Snuffaloficus kind of figure. But the only way that they describe Gooby is he goes, the kid at one point with narration, it says, little did I know something magical was going on at my house. Right.

And which Gooby just gets, like, hit by, like, a wave of electricity. Magic lightning. Like, magic lightning. See, the problem I have with the way that they have made Gooby, the, the character, the Muppet or whatever, not Muppet. I would say, you're calling him a Muppet is actually really offensive to the Muppet people. He does look like a taller, much, much cheaper, more menacing, Fuzzy the Bear. Yes. He looks like the characters that hang out on Hollywood and Highland.

Like, if you were dressing like Fuzzy, like, this is like the $70 version of that. Some sort of public domain Muppet. And that's what's so upsetting about the way he looks, because he's adult-sized. Yes. He's the size of an average man. And so when I'm looking at him, and he's a little bit wider, but he's essentially, like, if you just saw figure go by, you'd be like, that's an adult man. But he has a scarf on and no other clothes. Yeah.

Uh-huh. And that's an image to me that I find deeply unsettling, because it's, when you're just wearing a scarf, I, I, I, I love. look at him and I think Goobie's naked. Gooby's a naked man. Because he wears a scarf running around. And I know he's an animal. Do you feel like that with Donald Duck? No, I don't, but that's because of his size. And he's always, and he's always animated

too. Like, there's something about an animal wearing no clothing, which is fine. Totally fine. An animal wearing a little clothing so you know what? Then this is a choice. Well, my issue and this is aggressive. You know what? You are forcing this on me.

I didn't like it. I didn't like this assless threadbare either. Like his butt cheeks were threadbare. When did you notice that? Oh, whenever he's running a right. Hey, man. Stop checking out Goobie's ass. But I thought that was an odd choice for a, for an anime, like a puppety character.

Like, that whenever he ran around there were. I hope the director was like to the props department or whoever was making wardrobe or whatever was making that costume was just like. But, you know, there's got to be some areas where there's been a lot of wear. You know, like the kid always holds it there It's got to be a lot of wear like maybe the ass cheeks Like the ass cheeks are really warm- That's also a weird place to get wear on a on a- It's true

I thought it was supposed to be like a bear's actual ass Like it wasn't that it They were trying to make it look worn But they were trying to replicate The actual ass of bears Yeah Well by the way Oh yeah go ahead

No he just had the tag too Oh yes Is that what that was At first I thought it was just a bad costume thing where that's where the actor got in. Yeah. I didn't understand what that was. But it was just like the blown up version of the tag.

That's right. But cut off kind of like or was it was, yeah. I couldn't tell. Now I will say that Gooby, while a confusing character, I find this kid's parents to be really upsetting. Yeah. Because there's one point, and this is a moment that really called out to me, like the kid is, he's covering for Gooby,

there's noise upstairs. Right. And the parents are hearing the noise upstairs. And the kid tries to be like, oh, I'm getting sick to distract his parents. At which point, like, when he's getting sick, his parents protect the Chinese food in such a way. It's like, oh, don't get it on our Chinese food. Yeah, don't barf on our food, gross kid. Like, they don't want, like, they're terrible parents, really bad parents.

You sort of find out what is going on with the dad later on when you realize, like, he grew up in a very, you know, you know, poverty-stricken neighborhood, and his father was always working. And so you kind of understand his drive. But the mom I have more questions about because she's also working. She was going back to work. What do you mean she was going back to work? Wasn't that part of the thing? She was going back to work full-time for the first time?

Oh, I didn't hear. That's why they get Mary Poppins. That's why, inexplicably, there's a nanny that shows up in the middle of the movie with a Mary Poppins accent. And the nanny doesn't do anything. The nanny just sits in a chair. Snoop who's trying to always like uncover Gooby. She's just doing laundry for days.

Yeah. She loves folding. I will all, yeah, again, none of these characters work in tandem. Like, it could be interesting if the nanny was trying to get one up on Gooby, not the school teacher who's Eugene Levy, who's played his character's name, which is great, nerdlinger.

Just in case you wanted to just set it out there for everyone. They say nerdlinger about 15 times before he's introduced. Well, he's an interesting. Interesting character. So he's introduced as their regular teacher has gone off on maternity leave. So he comes in and he has written three books about a fish.

Yeah, like children's books. Children's books. And none of the kids know the books or know of them. And so he's very upset. And so his whole thing is like he wants to get famous. And I'm just trying to make the leap with the film. Like he wants to get famous. So in order to do that, he's going to reveal Gooby.

I guess. He's going to take a picture of Gooby and be like, hey, look, I proved there's a monster. There were two voiceovers that established that. One was the kid just said he wants to be famous. Right, it was all an ADR. You're right. It was not. And then he said something.

Yeah, Eugene Levy says like, not all of us can be famous or something like that. Right. He makes a subtle. It was also off camera. It was like thrown in there. There was scenes where there were so many lines all. off camera that people on camera are just reacting to just because they simply did not have actors that day. Like they would be running through the supermarket and it would be just on the kid in Gooby and then somebody would be like, hey, you, get out of here.

And they'd be like, whoa. That's true. Gooby in the supermarket. That's when Gooby really makes his presence known because Gooby likes cookies. Obviously, Gooby looks cookies. And also, just to show his parents not being interested at all, they go, oh, you know, they go, that boy's name. I'm sorry, I forget the kid's name. They go like, oh, Willie's sick today.

Oh, why is he sick? I don't know. I found 50 cookie wrappers. But they don't seem to be even like, oh, he shouldn't eat in 50 cookies. They're just like, eh, whatever, and they're leaving him. So Gooby goes to get cookies at the supermarket. And that scene is way to, like, that's like the fun montage. Like you would think, like, they're running around having fun.

But all they are doing is is running down up and down aisles in a supermarket. And at one point, Gooby pulls him so violently that the boy is, suspended in air like he's flying. His socket would come out as a that was a weird choice that's flying thing because that is the first time it's established Gooby has this strength

or something or speed that you never see utilized anywhere else. And he never, it doesn't come back. Like that's the other thing too. Nothing comes back. Like that doesn't like even at the end when the boy is in peril, there's no, Gooby doesn't use that speed. All Goobie is able to do is dial a cell phone when the kid is in peril.

The kid, oh, God. Do you think what Goobie's really, because, okay, I think what Gooby's purpose is ultimately because Willie also wanted to build some sort of a cart, right? A moon, a moon. Like a spaceship kind of thing. And he's got issues at school where there's a bully and he has to stand up to him, although he doesn't really. Gooby does.

Gooby does. On Halloween, it makes him pee his pants. That was really upsetting to me. That whole sequence. They shouldn't have done that. They shouldn't have done that. It's Halloween. They really shouldn't have done that.

Shouldn't have done that. Now, this is a Canadian movie. I realized that midway through when I saw the Captain Crunch was Captain Crunchy. Nathan? I didn't know anything about this going in. Nathan, and there were two kind of bombshells I saw when I Googled it after that it was made in Canada. And the thing that blew me away the most was that it was made in 2009.

Yes. I honestly thought this was made in like 1985. the way it looked. And because there's this issue where like there's this one scene too where it's a big plot point but the guy, the dad has to go at some point leave the house and he says to the mom like

you have to stay here in case the police call implying that like cell phones don't exist. I wrote that down too and yet Gooby has a cell phone because Gooby calls, Goopi uses the kid Willie's cell phone to call the dad. The 10 year old, how old's that kid? Yeah, like he's like 10 or 11 years old.

He has a cell phone. But the mom doesn't. And the mom doesn't even object. Like the son's missing it. He's like, I'm going. I'm not saying where. Well, the weirdest thing about that scene, too, is that she's like, she's very upset. And he's like, don't worry.

Spoken to the police, they've assured me that they will call as soon as they know anything. That was the best. Yeah. Which is like, he's not saying, don't worry. Everything is going to be okay. Oh, yeah. He's just like, they've told me they'll call. And then he's like, I got to go out for a minute.

And she's like, where are you going? And he does. He goes. you stay here he's like really emphatic about it and that's what I wrote in my rights I was like their marriage is terrible I want to I want this is

back to my question about Canada and this is I don't mean to be naive about this but but you're from Canada so you better know yeah I mean I mean something else about this movie the budget was 6.5 million dollars I saw and Canadian films are funded

usually if not entirely a large percentage of them with taxpayer money. Yeah. So this film was made with taxpayer money. Do you want to hear the sad? So you were there in Canada in 2009 and paid for this? Yes, I did pay taxes there in 2009. So you're one of the backers of this movie.

We have an investor? Indirectly, yes, I invested in this movie. Because I didn't see your name enlisted in the producer. We don't get credits for it. We just support the art. You should arbitrate. You got to get a credit. That's probably why Eugene Levy is in this movie

because he's a Canadian citizen, right? Yes. So I imagine that. So he has to you mean? So they make him. They can call anybody back and be like, you've got to do this. I think there is a thing. Where you have to do, like, you have to do some sort of art in, like, if you still share

citizenship, you have to do some. Wait, what's the rule you're saying? I thought there was a rule that if you are still, if you share citizenship, if you're that you have to do something in Canada in the arts of that. No, that's not a rule. That's so crazy. No, can you imagine being like mandated to go back to this movie?

Like some sort of prison. Like where are you going next month? Oh, well, you know, I'm half, you know, I was born in Canada, so I saw a Canadian citizenship. So I got to go up and I got to make a terrible kid's movie. You don't have to go back to Canada to make a TV show. No, but for it for you to get Canada, Canadian funding for a movie, it has to be, like, the leads in the movie have to be Canadian.

Okay. So since he has a major role. Yeah. So they'll try to get people. Yeah. So that's why it was definitely Canadian funded. Well, do you want to hear how much money it made you said it cost 6.5, what you're right about. The opening weekend gross, and this is.

This was released in theaters. I guess, but listen to the opening weekend gross, $706. $706. That doesn't even seem possible to me. The lifetime gross is $3,234. Whoa. That is like Delgo numbers. Also, this is one of the higher budgets movies to come out of Canada in the past decade.

Yeah. That's a lot of money that I did not see. And it's written. Where did they spend that money? Not on the suit. Not on extras? Not on the suit? If you look it up, I mean, telefilm is the place that funds movies in Canada.

I wonder what they did kick into this. I will tell you. Maybe we are, we should investigate. Or it could have just been he invested his own money, but I don't. Yeah, the writer-dire director, Connie Bear. His name is. Coney Bear, Wilson Coney Bear. He's the writer-producer creator.

He also did Shining Time Station. $6.5 million. There are a handful of locations. There are no extras. There are no extras in the movie whatsoever, except for the students in the classroom scenes. Well, let me ask you this. This is the question that I had. before about Canada.

On Halloween, they make it like, they go out to go to the movies on Halloween. And that doesn't seem like... Is that a tradition? Yeah, is that a thing? Explain yourself in a weird country. Yeah, that was weird.

But did the movie take place in Canada? That, I mean, all I know is that in the supermarket, Captain Crunch was... Do you remember? They kept on saying October 31st. Yes, that's true. Well, what does that mean? I don't know.

I mean, it clearly was Halloween. I mean, it's not called something different in Canada, is it? It's October 31st. Day. Here's a weird thing in that October 31st scene where he, so he goes up to the kid, the bully, the red-headed bully

who's been harassing him, and Gooby I could listen to you say the name Gooby for an hour. Gooby. Guibi? It's like the goo. You've put in the goo and

Guibi. Gui actually does become a monster for a moment. And scares the shit out of the kid, which makes him piss his pants. Well, that was like, that's probably what the 6.5 went because for that moment of CGI where his, his, his, like, his, because Gooby is a, his mouth is not moving. Like, he's, whenever he's eating, he's just shoving things to his things. No, but Paul, that's what was really, that's, that's, honestly, the biggest problem I have

with this movie. Yeah. It did move a little bit. His mouth did move a little bit. Guys, don't fight. Okay, but not enough so that it seemed like he was talking. Yeah. But not so little that we're just buying into the fact that...

It seemed like an air hole that had some give to it or something. The ending, I had like some real... I got real upset when the ending was Gooby takes the kid, like, stand by me style, to like... You want to go see a dead body. Yeah, basically, you want to go see a dead body, but not a dead body. Back to the dad's old where the dad grew up. The apartment building his dad grew up in. They find the dad's apartment, fall through a hole in the floor.

The dad comes to visit. The scene where the dad goes into... his own secret room felt really uncomfortable. I did, in all honesty, think the dad's version of Gooby was going to be there as well. I did too. I think we all did. The idea would be like that, because Gooby also takes the dad into that room. He's like, you know, when you're a child, and this, I'm not doing the Scott of Shaxon.

I apologize. But he's like, how dare you? How do you rob us of it? Because we all know you do a perfect Scott of Shackson. Well, I don't want to, I don't want to brag. I don't want to boast. But he's like, when you're a child, you forget things from your youth, and you just forget about it. Oh, this is so great.

He's going to forget about. Gooby. Gooby. No. It was just like his dad had pictures of trucks and stuff on the wall. And Gooby was not a part of it. Nor did the dad freak out when he saw Gooby. He was like, I'm totally cool with this Gooby situation.

Like, it was like, oh, you're my kid's toy, but you're like a, but you're eight feet tall and you're talking there. Yeah, and you're alive. Yeah, and you're alive. Like, there was no reaction to it. And again, I don't. Maybe he's trying not to be rude. I hesitate to go back to something I talked about in Jack Frost, but Gooby eats and never shifts. He is full of stuffing.

Okay, wait, wait, wait. He cuts his arm and is full of stuffing. So, come on, guys. Like, Gooby, there's no organs in there. Well, first of all, you also talk about it, like, you see normal people in movies shit. You never see Tom Cruise's dick a shit in a movie. I do. I do, and almost everything he's in.

I'm going to guess when Goobie. He's eating himself in gummy bear form in that sequence in the movie. That's another thing, too. Guppy has a knowledge of the world that is not as small. He knows what everything is. Yeah, he's never like, what is this? He's not E.T. in that sense. I don't think that Gooby is masticating, by the way.

I think it's just lying on. He may have a smell because the hot dog is laying on top of the cookies and stuff like that. Yeah. The thing is that that's what's weird about the movies. We don't know. Did Doobie have other adventures with other kids before? Or willie? Oh, please.

I'm sure Gooby's been terrorizing children for a while. He must have been bought as a toy new from a store, right? Yeah, well, that's what I think. So there's lots of him. I don't know. I don't know. He's like, he's like Chuckie. Like, I think he's like Chuckie.

Like, you know how Chuckie gets the spirit of a serial killer inside of him or a killer. Like, Gooby is just a doll. He didn't, he seems like that scarf, and I know that scarf upsets you, but that scarf seems like he is, and they make gummy bears out of him. He had, he's so, no, no, that's not Gooby. That wasn't Gooby, though. He says it looks like him, but it's not. Okay, all right.

That's like a clarifying scene that he wasn't a bear. That's the significance of that, right? Because he was saying, that's me. Giving out candy. They made toys like, they made food like me. Got it. And the kid said, no, that's not you. Those are bears.

So what is? That was a scene. In the movie. A shot that widened from the bear was a bunch of. There was a bunch of scenes that I was like, this is an interminably long scene for nothing to be happening. And by the way, the movie is only an hour and like 30 minutes at the most. 95 minutes, yeah.

It is a short movie that has a lot of long scenes. I'm also going to put out on the thing and just see what you guys react to. I think that the kid Willie is an unreliable narrator because I don't believe anything that he's saying throughout the whole movie. All of his voiceover is like, And that's when the trouble started. Well, he did say that he goes, like, he did say that whole thing about the traffic jam. Like, we were in traffic, and everyone saw us in traffic. It wasn't traffic.

It was a stoplight with three cars at it. And then he also was able to recognize as he was flying past in this flying go-cart that his teacher is in one of those cars. Yep. But I don't understand how he knew that either. And who is he telling this story to? Josh? No, to probably to his therapist. Years later.

Probably, I mean, like, I would love that if it was to the therapist. The scene, because the thing what I was like, I really believed for a good portion of the movie that the reveal was going to be that he, his hallucinations were causing the gooby doll to come to life, much like Calvin and Hobbs. And then when an adult is in the room, Hobbs is just a stuffed tiger. And when he's not in the room, he's like, you know, Calvin's buddy and partner in crime. Like when they're on the go car reminded me of Calvin and Hall of sledding, right?

But then, so, and I was like, okay, I'm almost willing to buy that the kid who has hallucinations and all this stuff is in a tough time, is his imaginary friend, like, what's the imaginary friend movie? Russell Brand was going to remake it. Drop dead dead. Oh, yeah. Drop dead Ted.

Russell Brand was going to remake Drop dead Fred. Oh, my gosh. I love that movie. Like that, you know, like that kind of imaginary friend movie. but there was a way in which when everybody saw Gooby and Gooby brings everybody together or whatever, that I genuinely was like, I have no fucking clue what's now happening. Because now anything is possible. Like, this is a weird magic universe that backs up the kid being, like, having hallucinations and stuff. Like, that all worked out in favor for him.

Like, I was, I'm worried for this kid, basically. Guys, I'm worried for Willie. I'm very upset by this whole. He should be. I thought the weirdest part of the movie was the Eugene Levy storyline. Yes. I know you were talking about before June a little bit, but that is entirely motivated by him saying in one line really quickly, like, anyone who takes a photo of Gooby will be famous.

Yeah. He says that. And that motivates his whole obsession. And it's not even like the town. Then and his love for Canada. That. Well, he's mandated to work. He was mandated to do the movie.

It's a slavery. But that is interesting because also the town is not being afflicted by Goobies. It's not like people like, oh, thank God you found this picture. Like if he was, again, I will go back and say, if he was to hand that picture to someone, someone would go, yeah, that's a guy in a chick. I guess, yes, Paul, but the bigger question to me about his character is. Where's E.T. was something different. Well, he set out, he wrote these three books.

He is a teacher. in the world of children and probably children's literature. Clearly unsuccessful. Unsatisfied. But it's interesting that he would, he wrote three books that I guess didn't do very well. But it seems like that is sort of in the world of things that he wants to do. Well, he hates Alice Carroll. He was really shitting on.

Lewis Carroll. Yes, but like it's lined up to his profession in a way. And so it's such a huge character leap to just believe that this guy who, That he was writing those books from the get-go just to be famous? That's crazy. That's really crazy. So he wants to be taught like Alice in Wonderland. But I don't even know if that's important to him or if he just wants to be a famous children's book author.

Yes. You know. You know, like those kind of books that we all know. But then he's so willing to abort that dream. Wouldn't it be more interesting if you were a teacher to be like, oh my gosh, I'm inspired to write a book about Gooby, and that becomes, like, the new book. Here's what's weird. One of the things that's weird is when, on Halloween it begins, I think, but then it recurs a little bit is,

Gooby, when in public, will frequently pose as Willie's father, and they will hold hands. I didn't like that one bit. I didn't like that one bit. Well, he even says, Goopi says the most upsetting thing. I'm this boy's father. I didn't like it. And they hold the hands a whole lot. A number of times.

Well, and this is the weirdest thing. So the cool kids from school, I actually did think that one actor who played like the super popular boy was great. Yeah, real talent. So he, so Willie gets in with the cool kids because Gooby posing us, his dad got him into the movie. Guby. Okay. But I don't know. Maybe I'm forgetting what it's like to be cute.

11-year-olds should not be a mid-ed-year-old type movie or something. Right. Maybe I'm forgetting what it's like to be a kid, but it also seems like a jump that just because one of your parents is cool, you would be deemed also cool. Oh, I was super cool because my dad is cool. No, that's lunacy. It's a crazy thing. Well, it seems that they would want to hang out with Gooby. Right. I didn't like at the end of that scene, though, when after the kids are like, when the kids think he's really cool and they say, maybe you can join us in play.

soccer at school tomorrow. He's in now with the cool kids, which is the most polite inclusion into their group. And Guibi says, I like being your dad. I didn't like that part. And then later, he says, later, I'm pretty sure I imagined him saying, who's your daddy now? What were your favorite parts?

That's a great question. Okay. There was a line, well, this is not really my favorite part, but there was a line that I loved which the dad said in the beginning about why they were moving, like what had happened in their lives, where he said, you know, change happens all the time. He goes, you remember when Joey's dad and I even started this business,

that was a big change. That was one of my favorite parts because we've never, I don't know who Joey is. We've never even met Joey. I don't know what this man does. It was just so absurd. But favorite sincere parts of that movie. I did enjoy some of the shots from behind of Gooby running because I know Paul, I spent a lot of time on Gooby's ass.

But his ass was like so wide. You like that? It was just satisfying to why. I was just comedic. I agree. Like those are the moments where you kind of, you're more thinking about the man and the costume. Yes. And it was just.

how he's able to run it. Well, the guy in the costume is working hard. I feel like he's really physical and, you know, eating those hot dogs. Those are my favorite. I feel like if people, yeah, if people don't want to watch the movie but they're interested in seeing some taste of it, I would say if you just watch the supermarket scene, I don't think you need real context for it. No, you kind of like, that might be the best or like the most interesting part of that movie.

I would watch, like, the, um, I would watch the first, the reveal of Gooby in the backyard with the rake. I would watch the supermarket scene, and then I would watch from when Willie falls through the floor till the end. So that's probably like max 15 minutes of watching, and you're going to get some pretty rad stuff. I just want to, just because I feel like we haven't heard enough Gooby. Can we just hear Gooby talking about what his name sounds like in the markers here? Just take a listen to this clip. I don't remember this.

Gooby Sounds like snot Snod What sounds like snot My name You were young so I can't complain But I always thought It sounded like great big gobs

Of snot Markers He loves markers I love markers I don't think you should be I very much think I should Markers are about the best thing of the world Next, of course, to those window cookies.

So that's kind of character, that lovable character. That's like in this movie. They were like, yep, we got it. That scene cut together well. Well, not to, not to reveal the ending, because I don't want to end our conversation, but I do want to just talk about the ending about another thing. At the end of the movie, obviously the dad sees the error of his ways

and decides that he needs to be a better dad, so he quits his job to build a tree house, which seems a little bit. reactionary. And by the way, I thought he didn't quit his job, by the way. He went on sabbatical. He went on sabbatical. And the man named Raleigh became a partner.

Apparently. Maybe Joey's dad. I'm sorry, Raleigh. It does seem like there are a couple movies going on and we're just checking with parts of it. I think there were a lot of scenes cut. In the beginning, I think they added that voiceover later on. I think there was a lot of like just scenes lifted. Well, this was supposed to be a trilogy.

This was supposed to be like... By the way, they definitely leave it to that because this is what I'm getting to at the end. When the dad... Everything's fine in Willie's household. The dad and him are going to build a tree house. Dad's on sabbatical. Raleigh's taking over.

And the kid and Guibi are talking as they're leaving Home Depot. At which point... And Eugene Levy has been foiled. At which point, Gooby just kind of walks off frame. And I go, where's Gooby? And we see him creepily staring down a young, disillusioned girl

who is also in the parking lot. Just also kind of, it doesn't seem that she's being totally neglected by her parents. It just seems like she's in her head. And he's like. She's staring at something. And he's like, I, that's, I like her. I like her. I want you to help me put her with her, which is super creepy.

So at which point, another thing that we've never seen happen or referred to, Gooby shrinks down into inanimate, stuffed animal form. And then he is, then the Willie brings it over to the girl. Yeah, here, let me saddle you with, let me saddle you with a nightmare for the rest of your life. By the way, it would have been useful for him to do that many different parts of the movie. Yes, and shrink down to become a doll. Sure, that's a great thing. But I think, this is what I think.

I think he has to remain as Gooby. Oh, God. I think he has to remain as Gooby until his task is completed and then he can, like, move on. I think that's what it was. Wait, wait. You wait, so you think the, the Goobie is only activated by, longing of a child? No, I think you're on to something.

I think, I think what the movie is actually really about is you're supposed to think the whole time Gooby's there for the kid. Right. And then you realize the very end, he's really there for their parents. He's really there to reunite the kid and the parents, basically. Okay. But the problem with that is that in the scene with the little girl, they're just focused on the little girl.

Like, they don't. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's, but now he can pass on Gooby. Gooby will pay attention to you when your parents won't Or when your parents are not When your parents are not paying attention to you I think that's the idea

Because he says what he brings I would also say a little bit of the idea is like Gooby will also help you with Facing your fears No because Gooby was equally afraid I don't like I because basically the parents go Yeah he's not afraid of those Hoonies Anymore since we moved to this house

I don't know that the logic of this movie is flawed Because Gooby just makes a kid piss himself Well, Gooby does say, Gooby, when he brings Willie to the apartment building, his dad's apartment building, he says, I think I know why I'm here now. I think I'm supposed to bring you here. You know, he thinks, he recognizes. So he recognizes that whole thing. He recognizes that I felt like that he has been brought to life in order to achieve a purpose or a task. Jason, earlier on, when Goobie's in the attic and they're looking through all that stuff and they find that photograph.

Right. of the dad outside this like shack, the kid starts to look at it and Gooby goes, no, no, no, no, not now. Oh, interesting. Did anybody else think that also the new house was not that much nicer than the old house? It was a little bigger. It was a little bigger. It was a precious little. What was the reason they moved again?

Because they're making bank now. Is that why? Since the dad went out on his own. Holy cow. Well, not on his own since he partnered with Joey's dad. Oh, yeah, yeah. As a construction company That Gooby winds up at one day

Oh yeah Just keep in mind This is a giant monster The movie is there There's so many ways to get him there And the way that they get him there Is that something happens at school Where

This is a this I want to talk about the guy Because sorry So they show a scene of the kids playing soccer After October 31st After October 31st, it's probably November 1st. Happy October 31st. Ooh, scary. October 31st.

Well, everyone knows Halloween is a copyrighted name. You can't say it. Without paying a lot of money to Halloween. So it's like the birthday song. So the soccer ball is coming down, at which point Willie runs to push Colin, the cool kid that June really likes. And he's like, watch out. And he pushes Colin out of the way. And it looks to be like he's going to take a soccer ball on the head.

But that's somehow, like, seriously injured. him so much. No, it didn't. Who did it injure? Colin. So, I thought that was a miscommunication. So Colin just got injured from falling down because Willie pushed him? I don't know what actually happened.

What I do know is this. A message was left on Willie's household answering machine. I know this, yeah. Where they said there's been an accident. Like a head injury. So, of course, Gooby assumes that it's, well, this is the crazy logic to get Gooby to the construction site. but Gooby assumes it's Willie.

So are you telling me that the school called up Willie's house to say, another kid in your school got injured today? Yes. Yes, because, yes, because Willie says later on, I had to go to the nurse's office with him. To be fair, Nathan, does that happen in Canada? Yeah. Where everyone in the class is called.

The school notifies all parents. When one kid gets her. It's like three-person classes. I thought it was Willie that got, And I didn't get that either. No, because. But I was really loosely. Did you guys watch it together?

Yeah, we did. We watch it together, yes. Yeah. And you watch it. I just watched it alone. Like a very sad man in his 40s who purchased this movie. And I mean, I don't know if it's more fun or like you guys are discussing it, but like, it's an infuriating experience. You have to watch that.

And like I, it's depressing. I'm talking about it with some amount of joy, but believe you me, I will. was very angry. We do a lot of movies on this show, some of which are a delight to watch. You know, this was, this felt like punishment. Like I, this was retribution of some kind. I will say this, I just found out something interesting. It was produced by John Calvert, who I just Googled, and he is a famous magician.

So I don't know what that means either, but that's a very odd partner to be the, he is an American magician. So that's who produced this movie and a weird older magician. June, talk to me about the construction site because I didn't want to cut you off about how he gets there. Well, no. So there's a message that's left on the home phone of Willie and saying that there's been an injury and Willie's, I think, in the nurse's office. So the dad happens to be at home and runs out to the car. So of course, Goopy thinks he's going to school. You're not just full on saying Goopie.

Goopi thinks that he's going to school to be with his son. So to Goobie's surprise, they head to the construction site. And so I think this is all supposed to further our idea of like this dad really doesn't give a fuck about his son. But then what we'll find out later is that his son was never hurt. Correct. Colin was. Because Goobie says, how's your head? Right.

But did the dad know that? Or did the dad knowing? knowingly neglect his son? My question, yes, I don't know. I mean, I mean, I think probably he doesn't. A little bit of both, but I think probably not full on neglect. But they are neglecting him. They're passively neglecting him.

But I think if he was, if true trauma had occurred, I feel like they would have jumped into action. Why do you think they didn't have any other kids? Oh, because I think he got a vasectomy. I think he got a vasectomy. But I think, you know what I think? I think he cheats. I think he's a real cheat. Yeah, there was something about his newfound love of like money.

I felt like his reveal was going to be that he wasn't going to work all the time. He was like boning somebody else. And then, right, because he's like doesn't come home for the kids on Halloween. He cancels the family vacation. Yeah. Guys, I'm really. Were you guys worried as soon to be parents? Was this like a real wake?

call for you in terms of parenting style. It was a cautionary tale. It's like if Doobie shows up at some point, we know we have not done a good job. Well, look, we also learned something very important that boys don't need things. They need parents. They need dads.

I will tell you this. I just was looking. I'm doing some research. And you better fucking build a fort or a tree house with your son or they're going to spend the rest of their life. I'm going to take a break to do that. Can I just say one thing, though? Willie was not the one that wanted the fort. Yes, he did.

So both Willie and his dad both wanted forts? They both wanted forts that both of their fathers did not give them. Specific. Yeah, it was like, that's exactly what it was. It's a fort gene. I see. Willys was supposed to be like a space fort or something. Right. He had a very big space theme. He also said forts

are in trees, right? Yes. And that's not true, right? No. Yeah. Because we made forts. You can make forts anywhere. Yeah. Fort G-houses are in trees, but I assumed in Canada that was the thing. Do you guys, I looked on IMDB. like the ratings on IMDB to see who liked this movie the most. And I will tell you the number one, the highest rating are females 30 to 44.

Oof. And males 45 plus. Those are the two demos that it spiked in. Wow. Which is very interesting. Now obviously we had an opinion about this movie, but there are other people who thought better. Now it is time for a second opinion. Second opinions from talk.

Up to bottom, crazy movies are fun. They're not your first, but they're going to be a second. From the dips of Amazon, they come. Second opinions for everyone. Second opinions. All right, so these are five-star reviews, cold from Amazon. Here we go. This is from Cool Dude.

There weren't many five-star reviews for a movie that made $3,000. So here we go. This is the first time I ordered from Amazon.com. Receive the item as described in the mail very quickly. DVD was reasonably priced. I'll be making more purchases. Five stars for Gooby. That does not really...

So the delivery service of Amazon should be getting the five stars, really. And then this one is by B. Reed from Tulsa, Oklahoma. I rented this off of on-demand for my cable provider for my three-year-old son. Although I did not enjoy it that much, he loved. it and has begged me to watch it over and over again. So six months later, and after repeatedly renting it from my cable provider, I'm breaking down to buy it for him because he won't stop begging to watch it. Five stars?

Five stars for a three-year-old. For a three-year-old who mom hates it. But I would say, too, that it's not like the look of Gooby. I found it to be terrifying. Like, it's not a... I can't imagine that kids... Well, from behind, you know, as I said before, I did. You're like obsessed.

You're obsessed with Goobie's monster butt. It's so weird. It was very playful from her. Well, the proportion of the head to the body, too. Because on the original doll, it's a big head and a small body. And then on the real, when he gets big, it's a big body and a tiny head. I want to just play this one clip. This is the end narration of the boy saying goodbye to Gooby.

I found this to be amazing, coupled with the song, the Gooby song at the end, too, which we haven't talked about. But here's the end narration. Take a listen. Final and most important rule of having a big fuzzy lunch monster? Realizing what you leave behind. What I mean is, Cooby may have gone on, but he left me with all sorts of stuff. Like, how to build a space car? The best way to go grocery shopping.

And how to defeat the homies. None of these things happen. How to be a friend. Oh, and he gave me something else as well. gave me back my dad and maybe because of that Crabbs He gave me crabs

When it comes to family Where we belong Isn't a place It's with each other Oh shit That by the way That sounds like the end of a movie He did not help him with the Hoonies

Nope He did not help him to go supermarket shopping The right way The way of the way of going supermarket shopping Was just eating everything in the aisles Stealing He didn't do any of that stuff Would you guys, well, I think we've already covered this, but would you recommend this movie?

I really would not. I really would not. This was upsetting. I don't want to put you in jeopardy with Canada at all, Nathan. Well, I'm like, I'm wondering, I mean, did, you know, the director hasn't, you know, I'm sure he's going to listen to this. Right? Like, I'm sure he's. You think he's got a Google alert for, his first feature for Gooby?

I just looked at IMDB. I don't think he's worked since the movie. But he's been in the Canadian TV industry since 1981. He created a show called Majority Rules in 2009 the same year as Gooby, but it looks like that show is canceled. Monster Warriors. I wouldn't put all of this on the director. I mean, I think there's... He wrote it too.

Oh. And he produced it with a magician. Here's a very real reality. and this is for the sake of our audience. If we, through very little action, the audience of how did this get made through renting this on, what was it, Amazon? Amazon or iTunes, it's on iTunes.

Or iTunes. We could match the... We could double it. We could match the amount of money this made in theaters through rentals very easily. Yeah. We could double the amount of money this movie has made.

And I will change. Challenge our audience now. Just to give it back to the people of Canada. Just to give it back to those people and to show that this director, writer-director, deserves another shot, maybe a gooby-2. I would love a gooby-gooby-toe. I don't think that one's a good idea. You don't think that's a good idea?

What if? Only 11,000 people need to rent this on iTunes to double the gross. Only 11,000. Now, we get. We get plenty. We get plenty of those people. So fucking step up everybody. And I guess there's no way to track this.

So maybe on Facebook we can put up a little thing or on Twitter we can make a hashtag that's like I bought Gooby. Yeah. I rented Gooby. Now that's the thing if some of you buy Gooby, it's even fewer people because that's like $9.99. Exactly. And I'm not, I'm not upset that I saw Gooby, you know, that I watched it. That's very ringing endorsement. I could have a conversation about it.

There's a poll quote right there for the DVD. I am not upset that I saw Gooby. If I wasn't doing this, I would be upset. Exactly. That I watched it. We should point out, by the way, the dad is, this is a star. I realize why older women like this, the dad is the star of Jag. That's one of my grandma's favorite TV shows.

So I would imagine if for you, J. jag fanatics out there. For you jagheads. Or they called the jagoffs. Well, that was an experience. I was glad to share it with all of you. And a big thanks to everyone who makes this show possible. Our engineer, Sam, our clip puller, Averill Halley.

Also, Nate Kylie does all of our researching. And Leanna Waldron, who just kills it on all of the graphic designs. And, of course, Katie Dyer, who does all of our social media. Thank you, guys. without you, the show would be nothing. We will see you next time. But until then, follow us on Twitter and on Facebook

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