How Did This Get Made? - Grizzly II: Revenge w/ Jake Johnson

Episode Date: October 3, 2025

The hilarious Jake Johnson, co-host of the We're Here To Help podcast and Peter Parker in the Spider-Verse films, joins Paul and Jason to cover Grizzly II: Revenge—a "horror" movie featuring George Clooney, Laura Dern, and Charlie Sheen that was filmed in 1983 and finally released in 2020 with a bunch of modern b-roll. They discuss all the concert footage, John Rhys-Davies' amazingly uncomfortable portrayal of Bouchard, the poachers who only want money and boners, the weird daddy/daughter vibes, and—wait... enough about the movie! Which hot young actors are Geek Sqwad?? Elordi is Geek Sqwad. Sweeney is Geek Sqwad. Zendaya? NOT Geek Sqwad! Who are the Geek Sqwad? A generation of digital native actors AND they get it. Check out Paul's episode and June's episode of Jake's podcast We're Here To Help. • New live shows 11/7 in NYC & 11/8 in Philly! Go to hdtgm.com for tix, merch, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Is this movie a game, a laugh, a joke? Yeah, it is. We saw Grizzly 2, The Revenge, so you know what that means. Now it's time for how did this get made? We're going to have a good time, celebrate some failure, not just be a hater, because you know you wonder, how did this campaign? Let's follow in the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made?

Hello, people of Earth and welcome to How Did This Get Made? Today, we are talking about Grizzly to The Revenge. But before we get into that, I want to let you all know that How Did This Get Made and Dinosaur are going on the road. That's right. Jason and I will be in Boston, Philly, New York, and D.C. We have amazing special guests like Edie Patterson from The Righteous Gemstones and Danielle Schneider from Garbage World as well as Rob Briggle and Mary Holland. It's going to be a blast. Get your tickets at hd-tgm.com. now boy oh boy we got a movie for you a movie 37 years in the making that's right this movie was just released in 2020 oh yeah oh i didn't know that okay that makes a lot of my confusion makes sense well just if in case you

haven't seen it and i do recommend that you do see it because this every now and then we come across one that is pure perfection and this is definitely one of those movies uh all hell breaks loose when a giant grizzly reacts to the slaughter of his babies or her babies and attacks a massive big band rock concert in a national park. That's the premise. We'll break it all down. But first, let me introduce a micro host, Jason Manzukas. Jason, how are you?

Wow. Wow. We did it. We've done. We really, I don't know if we've reached the end of all of our bad movies, but this certainly feels like a movie that was cobbled together from the found scraps of other movies. Oh, and it kind of is. Yeah, that's what I'm, yeah, that's what I'm guessing at. But, but yes, let's get it. Let's jump right in. This week, we do not have our other co-host,

June Dian, Rayfield, with us, but we have found someone to replace her. A suitable replacement. A suitable replacement. That's right. He is the co-host of the very popular podcast. We are here to help. Please welcome Jake Johnson. Jake. Thank you guys. Thank you goes. Well, well. What a movie. You guys. Holy shit. You're welcome. You know, whenever we have a guest for the first time on the show, I'm like, oh, they may be upset when they have to sit down and watch it, but I was like, we gave Jake a gift. It's not even, it's only an hour and 14 minutes. It's not even hit an hour 20. With Paul, six minutes of credits. And I'm going to honestly say, I'm pretty sure I watched. at least 35 minutes of the concert. Like, a lot of concert footage.

Concert footage and B-Role of just animals in the wilderness. How about the new fake band? The modern band, it was, first of all, the concert, when there was ladies from the 80s vibe. Yes. I was like, I love this concert. This is a home run. Yep.

Like an 80s, new wave, like, I believe, like, Russian. I believe they're singing in Russian at one point or something. But like the sexy, weird hip dance. that is so, like, not sexy, but you're like, I don't know, there was a time when, like, Jane Fonda did it. Love it. It's working. I loved all of it. Me too. But, but you're right, the modern band. Then all of a sudden in the middle, it's like a wedding band from 2010. Who are shot super close with no microphones, and they're performing to 100,000 people with no microphones. The guy has a little bit of a ponytail and, like, who'd you cast?

No, I will say this. This was a real, this was real. This was a real concert in Hungary. So these are... Wait, what is that mean? The first, the big concert was a real car. You mean the big one. There's the original and then there's the additive stuff that the distributor did in 2019 to make money off of a Clooney Lord in a Chuck E Sheen. Yes, all right.

So this is what happened. Back in 83, 1983, the filmmakers created this massive musical festival in Hungary called the Beast Festival. So that's what. we're seeing. And man, this was a... Okay, so I'm sorry, just to just to like pull that string a little bit, Paul. You're saying that people were hired to shoot the, like a concert video, like Woodstock. Then they made the Charlie Sheen, Clooney, Laura Dern thing. Around the concert. Are those separate elements that were then wedded together? And then the extra, the modern footage, the drone footage, was because the movie was 80 minutes and they can't sell an 80 minute movie. And that's

not legally a movie, I believe. I think you've got to be 88 minutes to get paid as a feature contractually. I say that's the guy who has made little indies, and at like 83 minutes, you're like, it counts, yeah? Oh, I remember, I'm pretty sure they added two minutes of bloopers to the dictator to legally make it a movie. All right, this is what I know, and this is, Scott, correct me if I'm wrong, but Scott, our producer found this great article in The Ringer about the making of the movie written by

Brian Raffordy, he did an amazing job. So the first thing that they filmed was this huge concert created just for this movie. Almost 50,000 people attended, which made it one of the largest concerts ever held in Eastern Europe. The concert, right, was completely real. Nazareth was the headline. Oh, okay, Nazareth, which is like a real, you know, 70s, 80. They just did a concert. Oh, yeah, no, the concert was the first thing that they filmed.

And then they paid for it from the money raised by this conman producer, Joseph Ford Proctor. But the very first day they began shooting the non-concert scenes, Proctor ghosted them and took off with the rest of the money that he raised. So he's just a weird Robin Hood. He just gets money, gives some of it away, and then disappears. This is, okay, he vanished for many years and was living in Thailand. He was convicted for fraud. He didn't have to say that. That's where everyone goes.

But yeah, like that, that opening of this idea that this, this is a, this is a movie that was kind of bamboozled. And yes, I think across the board, look, this is a movie called Grizzly 2 based on the very successful grizzly. I, but it was based on Grizzly 1. I started to feel like, is there a Grizzly 1 are any of these people from that movie? Yes. Well, not from that movie. No, no. No, there's no carryover.

There's no carryover. I'm sorry, Paul. I'm so sorry to, I have, I'm going to be honest, nothing but questions. This is, all of my notes are just questions. So, yes. So when Clooney, Dern and Sheen shot their one and one half scenes. Yes. By the way, this movie opens with, and we'll break it all down, like, this movie opens with, like, well, I don't know if we'll get to answer, but we'll at least ask questions. The movie opens with like, starring. you know and it's george cluny it also ends the first uh it's george cluny's photo at the end yeah and so like you think like okay well it's george cluny laurne charlie sheen and i'm thinking okay i worked at uh carlos blockbuster when i was a kid and in you know and i remember there was like an adam sandler movie like called like going overboard he has like one scene but they put them on the cover box but this movie it seems like they didn't even want to trust you to wait until like 10 minutes.

And they open up a scene on these three people. I got a quick question that really threw me off. Did you guys also see the Charlie Sheen documentary? Okay. So there's a scene in there, Jason, that pissed me off while watching it and then pissed me off more while watching Grizzly 2. Charlie Shane was offered this part in Grizzly Man 2, total dog shit. He said yes. They needed him for seven days.

can't figure out why that's seven maybe just to fly to Budapest he then got offered the part of karate kid he was going to be karate kid his dad an old school purist said all you've got is your word so he passed on being the fucking karate kid to be in this I mean and the story was almost like I was mad at my dad for a long time but that integrity and I'm like no that's just bad. It was terrible advice. For Grizzly 2. For Grizzly 2.

And now, talk about, no. It's not a movie. You pass. And so, you know, later on. Was the Charlie Sheen, Clooney, Laura Dern,

was there supposed to be more? Or was this the sum total? They get murdered. Like, all three of these future superstars are cast just to die in the old, in the cold open? Yeah.

So, so, so originally that scene. that scene was going to be later in the film. That's why about 20 minutes into the movie or so, we see the National Park staff discover the bodies of the three

dead teenagers because in the original cut of the movie, they had just been killed in the scene before. All right, so this is kind of weird, right? So it wasn't until years later that the film's remaining producer Suzanne Nagy, re-edited the movie and then moved the Clooney, Dern, and Sheen scene to

the beginning once they all became huge stars. Oh. Oh. Now, the screenwriter did say that the only reason that they were hired was because of nepotism. And they thought that if they used these names, that would help the box office. Who's clearly connected to? Rosemary. Oh, right. And I guess on a level of a movie like this, it was enough to give it like something, right?

So they were gaming the system. That's fascinating. They said, yeah, their auditions are fine. but the reason why they were hired was to help like game the box office. That's so fascinating to me because it seemed so odd to me that before they were anywhere near stars, the three people who would become that maybe this is just truly an indictment of nepotism inside of this business, but the people who would become unequivocally the biggest stars out of this movie are the three who are like just cast aside in the cold open.

I wouldn't call it nepotism, Jason. Did you see the other acting in this movie? This was some of the worst stuff I've ever seen. The main guy and the blonde lady when they were doing their scenes. I honestly felt like this can't be on planet Earth. No, I mean, they're not real humans here. John Reese Davies, who I love, you know,

obviously from Raiders to the Lost Ark, Sliders, I've been in a bunch of great stuff. He is doing something at a certain point. I'm like, should I be offended by what he's doing? Breschard. He's a special character. Here, take a listen to. to John Reese Davies.

They say that Grizzly was created by the great Manitou. But Grizzly grew to be so strong that even Manitou himself had to flee to escape him. In the beginning, bear walk on two legs like a man. In those days, he killed his prey with clubs and not with teeth and claws. You really believe that garbage, don't you? Grizzly is a beast from hell.

If you do not know that now, you will someday. He's an all-timer. When they established later on that, well, he actually was this normal guy who went nuts and now thinks he's a Native American. Yeah, it's like after a bear killed his wife and daughters. Pretty awesome story. I will say, pretty awesome storyline. I know, Jake, you texted me and said, you're going to go as Bouchard for Halloween. Bouchard.

Just because I have every year since 2000. I mean, Bouchard really is a great character. And I did think, I was like, did they retcon his backstory? Because, you know, John Rees Davies probably got this end. Like, I'm doing this. And then they were all like, okay. Like, there's a moment where the lead actor literally takes a knee because it's like, well, I can't compete with whatever John Reese Davies is doing.

How about when he moves the tree? He moves the tree with his bare hands. Incredible. He's the strongest man on planet Earth. I want to answer some of these questions, and I can also break down some things in the movie, just so you guys have a clearer answer on some of this stuff. Okay, about this producer. So basically, he took the money from the film.

He didn't even tell the other producer. Instead, he let that producer's husband tell her that he just ran off with the money. He was jailed later for other shady business. You don't have to say that part. We all assumed it. Got that. And now this movie was made in Budapest, and the Hungarian government seized all the film equipment because they didn't pay their bills and as a result

they never got a chance to do post-production on it they even took the bears um and so yeah i love and you know what we were saying earlier we all got in the bloat business when we all got in this game the other business i wanted to get into is this business oh this i wanted to be in a movie in budapest and have they somebody come to my hotel room and go there is no movie and i go why and they go they confiscated the bears everything and the bears are gone thank you so much for the opportunity gentlemen this was a really fun 10 days I mean and by the way everything

all the film is missing as well it should be this was the worst project I've ever been apart 45 days this movie they started shooting in Hungary months after Ronald Reagan declared the Russia as an evil empire and they were shooting it on a military base and they were apparently surrounded by secret police

the entire time of the shooting, which is, now I'm like, is this an, like, an Argo situation where they, like, was this, like, a chance to get in? And, yes, so this movie then toiled for many years, and 87, our friends at Canon film group who've made all the movies that we've talked about on this show, they were like,

we're going to finish this up, but then they had to ditch it when they went bankrupt. So everything has kind of gone bad on this. Who is the group that just re-sou? There's a group that came, in recently and said with those three stars at the beginning, we could sell it to Netflix for at least $250,000. Well, that's the Gravitas pictures, Gravitas, who are big in the indie game.

They're the ones who, yeah, they bought it and they, and I think that they were like, this is weird enough that it could be like a bird, I think this is me now adding my own thing to it. Like, it could be a birdemic. Like, well, we, they, they were able to re-edit it all together, put some bare footage back in, you know, they stitched it. together just to kind of make sense, even though, I mean, night, day. Oh, the difference between the 80s, yeah, the 80s footage and the, they shoot a bunch of, like, modern stuff, like modern drone shots, modern, they shoot a bunch of a modern music festival where people are wearing, like, tie-dye and all sorts of, like, modern logo shirts and stuff.

Yeah, also the nature footage at the beginning, I was like. It's so funny. It's so funny. It's so crisp. Yeah, but there's like, why not just make a weird 72-minute movie? Like the, during the concert, there was those two old guys in white jackets playing something. I was hard laughing, but then when it cuts to like the karaoke footage of the modern band, something about it pissed me off.

Oh, well, I'll tell you this modern band, by the way. They're a band called The Days, and they're performing their song, The Planet. Now, here's the thing, all right? This was from a... Please tell me they're here today. I wish. Welcome to the stage. The day.

Now, the days, that track is from 2016, far away off from 1983. And on a comment on the YouTube video of their song, it says the footage was requested by a company, but they didn't know what it was going to be used for. So they didn't know. They didn't know that that's how they were. I feel bad for this band. They signed a contract they didn't read. They're like 17 pages. And somebody does how much?

And they go, 500 bucks. and they go click sign done just take it do it ever you want i didn't know i was going to be in grisly too it's a concert from 1983 we made it in 2016 oh my gosh so it really it looked like time travelers it is so confused i will say like if i had stumbled on this it is it was so you know it was so confusing to watch this patchwork quilt of footage from different eras of uh of filmmaking so it is also visually like the visual storytelling telling is all over the place. They're making cuts, time jumps, they're making cut.

The bear, the bear doesn't move. The bear cannot move. The bears all, by the way, also burned up in a warehouse fire in Hungary after the film was made. I'll tell you another thing that really threw me off and had stuck with me is the the young daughter storyline. Yes. She falls in love with the musician, but there was no setup. When did that happen?

All of a sudden, she's doing a scene and he's like, Everything's just a laugh. And she's like, what am I? And I'm like, did I miss a 40-minute arc? A relationship came out of the blue, but that scene is perfection. I just want to listen to it for a second. What's wrong? Nothing, nothing at all.

I just wanted to say, we've had such fun together. I like you a lot. But I'm nothing. I'm just a gypsy, a clown, a juggler. I go from town to town, I do my show, and then I'm gone. It's all a game, a laugh, a joke. Am I a game, a laugh, and a joke? Yes.

When did they fall in love such that he's now being a dictator? Who is he? It seems to all take place in a day. And what I really love about that scene is that he touches his fedora, like Hamlet looking at the skull. You know, and it's like, it's funny. It's like a funny, like, actors' choice to look at that fedora, and the fedora represents. I bet his lines were written on the board. Also, this politician who's involved here, she's like, she's, you mean Nurse Ratchet?

Nurse Ratchet who said she, she's like, I took this job because I'm 50 and no one offered me any work when I was 50. Did we also all notice an uncredited Tim Spall? No. British actor Tim Spall, Mike Lee, favorite Tim Spall. Oh, Peter Pettigrew from the Harry Potter movies. When Nurse Ratchet comes up and says, we need to go over there and he says, you can't come in here, and he's got his arm in a cast, it's like a very young Tim's Paul. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Nobody allowed in here.

I think you've made a mistake. This is Senator and Mrs. Thornton. No matter who they are. What's your name? Rob. Thank you. Wow. That's cool.

I mean, there's so much in here that's That also in the... Based on what we were just talking about, though, can we assume that the movie wants us to believe there was a love story between the daughter of the ranger and that pop star that we were just talking about who's on stage? Is it possible they shot scenes? Are there more scenes for this movie that have not been included?

If there are more scenes and they chose not to put it in. No. And they put this new footage. No. They're the biggest idiots in the game. I mean this is a movie that is I feel like it's inept in every way they did not like anything that they had

they used me clearly had they probably did shoot it and when their film got stolen by the Hungarian government it got lost I bet or they cut it out or they cut it out but also the scene then when that girl is with her dad who I did not realize was her dad the main guy with the beard and all of a sudden

it's like it's shot kind of sexy by the Jeep and I was like ow is she gonna go after like the cool lead guy because I thought he was going to go after the blonde lady and then all of a sudden she goes like I'm hey daddy I'll make you proud I'm a good little girl I was like what the fuck am I want me the same age they seem like peers this is terrible

right you imagine being on that set with that director him being like good one more time say I'm a very good girl I was like ew this is why I also feel like it's also the actors feeling like they could say whatever they want. Like, we're gonna improvise you. Like, we'll have a little flirty thing

because probably in real life they were a little bit close in age, right? Because then she say, like, you know, there's something about it where I feel like they don't know or like there was enough people there that no one was like, there was no script supervisor that day. That's a really funny idea. Two actors who are improvising

and they don't realize their father and daughter is seen. But the old guy's like, look at you, sweetheart. You look wonderful. They were in a video village is like, It's a very sexual vibe. He says that thing. He goes, do you go for daddy? You're a go for.

What? You go for this, you go for that. You go for your old man? Mm-hmm, in a big way. Oh, yeah? We have a kiss. Like, do you go for dad? Or like, what?

Like, that's a weird thing because she's going to be a gopher. You go for this? You go for that? You go for daddy? I was like, ooh, I thought weird. Never should you talk to your daughter like that. He was like, the actor was like, look, I'm the lead of this movie.

Would you like to get dinner with that? I love to talk to you about the business when we go back to Hollywood. There was something that happened in there. We both know. Now, I understand that obviously we need to have our bears out there killing people. But this is a movie that takes place in a state park, and it feels like they've never had a bear problem ever, right? Like, they have no infrastructure to deal with this grizzly. But yet also, this grizzly is not just a grizzly that's out for killing.

It's a giant grizzly that has never been. And it's like, it's a Godzilla of Grizzlies, which is also just a, it's a psycho. It's 20 feet tall? Yes. I mean, they keep saying they're finding claw marks 18 feet up in tree. Like, it is. And when they try and give you perspective, when the bear finally gets, yeah, when the bear finally gets to the festival, some people, yes, appear as though they're looking at a kaiju. And some people are like, oh, there's a bear over there.

Well, my favorite part is when the bear kills, like, there's a couple things that we're following. we're following the bear people trying to solve the bear problem we're following the concert people we're and then we're also following the poachers well this is what i was talking about this crew of the drug dealer well the drug dealer from jamaica who's got great weed from hawaii i got that great oh how about the guy who was running it with the cool glasses oh i love that guy that guy in a great you know that kind of reminded me i'm you know i just i was playing cards last night and I heard and I can't believe I heard this for the first time I'm sure you guys know this but do you know about Joni Mitchell's uh blackface era oh yeah you do no i do jason can you tell

all about it because i just heard about it yesterday i mean not my mind's blown wow wow jason is wearing a joanie mitchell shirt as he's incredible timing they have they have in modern times changed the jacket, the cover art for Don Juan's Reckless Daughter because it featured a picture, so Joni for a period of time

would do a blackface character. And she'd go to parties at it. I'm looking at it right now. Oh, Lord. Oh, oh. Yes, Paul. This is a real thing. Whatever you are imagining, you will be more shocked when you see it. It looks like she's out of a black exploitation film. Like, I mean, this is

like a character that might have been in Dolomite, the way that, the way that I'm looking at it right here. Wow. Joni Mitchell, she was doing this at parties in Laurel Cannon and everybody was like, wow. I mean, and by the way, and I want to call out because you said it like, yeah, she's in blackface, but she's also in drag. Like she's a black man. It's a man. It's a man.

Yes, you're right. Oh my lord. Now, I will say, just to kind of lift up my theory that the lead actor was trying to get some flirting in. this is a quote that the nurse ratchet said Louise Fretcher she said that when she met with the director

Andre Sautz he said, did you read the script? And she said, yes, of course I read the script. And he goes, movie, we make nothing to do with script. Crazy to hear from a director and then say yes. I love that the director's like, no, no, and we won't use that.

So we get the idea that this movie is kind of loose and letting everybody go, you know, wherever they want to go here. But I will say that it causes a lot of weird problems because at one point when they're having a meeting about the concert, there's a line where a character says, we're going to have 80 to 100,000 people here. And then I was like, okay, oh, I was sorry.

I was like, now I'm saying it out loud. Now it makes sense. I was thinking 80, like 80 to 100,000. Now I see it. I was about to. You know what? I think we all saw that happen to you in real time. Yeah.

And when you said it, I was like, wait a minute. I was like, what's so bad about that? And I was like, oh, I just saw it. That makes that heads up. In my mind, I was like, how could you have less than 100 or more than 100,000? You really don't know how well your tickets are selling if that's where you're at. Well, and by the way, I think it was. We're projecting anywhere between 80 people and 100,000.

The staff, like, how many security people do we hire? Like, I honestly don't know. How many drinks do we have a concessions? I mean, that's why I thought that they were so confused. Like, yeah, we don't have enough security guards for this event. We only thought we either have so much security or so little. We hired 1,500 people. I also like that bears like have this.

This is a very Jaws 4 kind of territory. Like Jaws 4, he's hunting down the family that killed. Well, wasn't that also called the Revenge? It was, Jason. Jaws 4, the Revenge. Yes, with Michael Cain. And yes, so this is a bear. that is just mad and it seems like the bear is so specific about enacting revenge but not on the

people that created the situation like the first kill are just three innocent kids who were not the poachers and then he seems to kill only innocent people like there's no like I mean the poachers I guess finally get it I love speaking of the poachers yeah they were fun I like those poachers I wish I wish we'd been with them more the part where the guy is talking about how going to split the money when they sell the bear's gallbladder and he's just inexplicably holding a rabbit around the neck in shot like this he's like it's split a hundred thousand I'm not good with numbers but four times four is 25 and but times two is 50 and then there's no and then suddenly the poachers are are shooting each other well by the way that that scene about

the the gallbladder money what I loved about that was like they come in like hey Luke your brother's dead anyway I think we go kill that bear and then we go get his gall-biter and he's like they just run over that your brother was killed by a bear and he's like my brother's dead oh no and they're like yeah man get out we got this that's how we should all start treating it though let's just start living like we're in grizzly too oh we got to become poachers everybody does wasn't there a scene i'm i was at that point of the movie i was getting mad at it but were they all like start wrestling or dancing or they wake up what was that moment where i was like they were just such like clown performers where they were just letting oh wait that's where they're drinking oh yeah they're just letting everybody know that they're trained actors yeah and they're like they're grabbing each other's butts and dancing around i was like clearly four men and you see this a lot with actors where it's four men in their 50s where all of a sudden they were like man this takes me back now we get to act and you're

like what is this movement you're a poacher no now they're like they're now they were actors I do feel like America is currently in its poacher era. Like, the country definitely feels like we're consumed by poacher, the poacher mentality. It's all of a sudden really cool to, like, murder a lion and stand by it. There was an era where we all admitted, like, that sucks. And now we're like, that's pretty cool, man. It's a pretty big-ass lion you murdered for no reason. Now in this world.

A lot of people getting infected with the poacher mind virus. But here's the thing. These poachers don't even care that they would be killing a big bear. They're like, we is going to get this gallbladder back to San Francisco. Like, that's it. Like, they're not even like, it would be a great kill. Yeah. And I love it too.

I always love that the poachers are always after the thing that is reported to be an aphrodisiac. Yeah. Like, that's it. All they want is money and sex. Yes. All they want is the money and the boners. That's it.

That's what we got. A thumbs up appeared on Paul's screen. You said money and boners. That might have. But you didn't. I wish it was not, maybe it was me just giving the thumbs. No, it was, I literally think you were thinking such a positive thing that your computer heard your thoughts and popped a thumbs up. You have the, you have the neural link set up, right?

You are the first neural link. It came with my Tesla. It was not a big deal. I was in and out in the same day. It was great. Speaking of boners. Yes. How about the George Clooney, Laura Dern?

Opening. Oh, yeah. All of a sudden. I was like, he's really slopping kisses on. And she does that weird European dance when she takes her clothes off. I was like, this is a wild. And then Chuck Sheen looking hot is like hiding up in the woods. I was like, what's happening here?

It's like these three people are going to go camping in with the like implicit knowledge. And then when we fuck, you got to go away from us. Like just go like around the corner. I also want to just highlight for everybody because I don't know if you all noticed. But they say that they hiked. they hiked 20 miles and laura durn is wearing a strappy wedge-heeled sandal she's wearing a two-inch wedge heel and nobody's sweat no one's sweat they look great they look great movies used to do a thing that i thought was going to be adulthood and it's not and that is if you go out with a couple they're going to

fuck so soon and you're just expected like run up a hill that's never happened and they're going to Here's the thing. They're going to start while you're there. Yes. They're going to start while you're there and it's up, it's incumbent on you to know, hey, I got to make myself scarce. If I don't get out of here, I'm just watching my friends have intercourse. And then I'm the bad guy?

Yeah, like, hold on. I'm not a pervert. I'm in my sleeping bag watching you guys. You woke me up. And by the way, they weren't touching myself. You're having sex right near me. I'm not watching you in Massachusetts. I was masturbating. I was masturbating and I see you.

It was in the middle of their conversation too. It wasn't like, hey, we were turning out for the night. It was like, hey, yeah, I saw that movie. That was kind of good. All right, we're, we're fucking. It was like they, they start going at it. There was also the intimation. It also felt like there was the intimate, they were intimating that Charlie Sheen was

in love with Laura Dern, but that she was with Clooney. Right. Like, I felt like they were setting that up in the, in the, in the, yeah. And I was like, oh, so. Or Charlie was just adding a lawyer for us. Maybe you're right. But I was trying to be like, okay, oh, so this is going to be a movie about this, these three and then I was like, oh, wait, all three die immediately in the same scene? This is crazy. You know, that's a bit, yeah, that's a bit, though, that people have been trying to do. They probably have at this point. But there was a period for like every big action comedy movie. It was try to get the biggest star you can and have them die in the first scene. Oh, yeah. They actually do it in this. And I will tell you it's the other guys. Yes, that's exactly right. The other guys did it. But you're like, it's a fun.

funny idea. What's disappointing in it is that you're like, I would love to see those three in this movie as opposed to having to watch these other guys. You've pulled the car, like you've pulled the rug out from under us now because now we have to not be with these people. They were actually engaged. Charlie Shane and George and Laura Dern deal with a grizzly more than I want to see that weird pervert with the beard hitting on his daughter. I also, here's the other thing. You know, you were upset that Charlie Sheen didn't go do karate kid. I kind of think he would have been too cool to be karate kid like charlie sheen great actor especially in that time but i don't i don't know if he's got the uh like i don't feel like you know uh william zabko could be beating up charlie sheen i feel

like charlie sheen would just like lay him out one two three how about a young charlie sheen yeah you know charlie sheen post major league and post great movie uh platoon yeah right but we just grew up on that guy but the other guy was uh amelio's little goofball brother okay amelia was the hunk Charlie was Carlos Esteban. Which is a statement you never think you're going to say, Emilio was the hung. But by the way, Emilio at that era, he's the guy. And then his little brother, Carlos, get out of here, dude. You're not even that good of an actor.

I love... I just want to do what Emilio does. You're not talented. I love when, like, when Andrew McCarthy comes to Emilio's house in that documentary he did about the brat pack, like, I like, I like Emilio a lot. Like, he's just over it, like, not into this guy. And you could see Emilio getting, like, low-key pissed off. off at him like all right man get the fuck out of my house now like oh this documentary is great it's

basically Andrew McCarthy um not getting over that there was one article that called him the brat pack and everyone else is over it like to the point where like except for him and he's like trying to get people to be like aren't you upset about this and like no no and like it goes so far to many years ago man like rob low literally is like are you kidding me it's the best fucking time of my life amazing it was great like everyone's like no it was fine it was fine he's like no it labeled us it was We were wronged. Yeah. And it just can't get anyone on his side.

No one in the world cares. Just holding on to a grudge or a grievment in a way that is just not even remotely acceptable at this age. What I will say, even though I agree, he's insane. Imagine being in that group where you guys think you're the next thing. Oh, yeah. And you're like, we've finally done it. Everybody's young and cool. You're doing good stuff.

And you're like, they got the rap. Then you got the Jack Nicholson crew. You got the Pacino's of the Niro's. Who are we? And you go, the Brat Pack? No, we're doing good movies. Didn't they, wasn't there an attempt to label the Vince Vaughn, Jack Black generation is the frat Pack? Yes.

Oh, wow. After old school vibe. That's it. That's, I think, what it was maybe. And it seems like, I mean, everything I've read from that time, the Brat Pack, it's like, this writer had a little bit of an edge. He's like, fuck these people. Like, because they're out partying and they're being. being cool.

Like, there was a little bit of a, you know. It was mean. It was mean. But it was, but if you're right, they were doing good movies or at least movies. Movies were awesome. Yeah. They were great movies. They were all young.

Also, what a way to elevate a dumb article. Yes. Which is to become obsessed with it. To become obsessed with this one piece of writing. Imagine like Tim Shalameh, Austin Butler, whoever else are these like, you know, Jeremy Allen White, all this like great group and you're like, guys this whole group together put him in a cover and call him like

the new geek squad yeah yeah no these guys aren't the geek squad and you're like the geeks are finally running Hollywood and then Austin Buller on a motorcycle being like the geeky James Dean

you're like straight from bike riders you just you could kill him and then everybody called him the geek squad it would be we should get that going now

we should just we should be We should encourage people. We should tell everybody that all of those young Hollywood hot actors are the geeks. Oh, did you see that the new, yeah, the new Superman movie has got a couple of those geek squad guys in it. Oh, yeah, the lead guy's in the geek squad. And then the woman from Maisels was, she's a geek squatter. She's kind of geek squad.

You know, like Nick Holt is British Geeks squad. You know what we could actually do how Yop music is. Yeah. It's very clear who's Yop music and who's not. We could actually create real rules and rules in the Geek Squad. Because I will say the woman from Maisel is not Geek Squad, but I do think the lead Superman is Geek Squad. Yeah, well, Geek is like, I think, well, definitely Nicholas Holt is Geek Squad, according to Oz. Nicole is pretty close to Geek Squad.

Austin Butler is Geek Squad. He's prime geek squad. And I think that this is like what we'll all we have to do is say it with confidence, and then people will start to adopt it. Now, here's the question. How soon are we going to get a cease and desist from Best Buy? We're spelling squad differently. Yeah. Okay, good.

Who is the Mount Rushmore of Geek Squad? All right. Tim Seh. Yeah, Tim C. Austin Butler. I think Jeremy Allen White. The bear. Jeremy Allen White.

Like, I'm trying to think of who else is like that. Is there a lady in the geek squad? Or is it very much a... I mean, Margot Robbie's not in the... Is Tom Holland Geek Squad? Zendaya? No. Because he was before them.

No. No, yeah. I don't think so. Yeah. They started a little bit younger. They got their own thing. Oh, Jacob, Lordy should be in the Geek Squad.

Yes. Allorty is Geeks Squad. Elorty is Geeks Squad. He's total Geek Squad. And he's great. Oh, I'm assuming somebody is going to Photoshop all of these actors wearing Geek Squad polos. Oh, my God. But those guys as the pillars of Geek Squad is awesome.

And guess what? Anybody who's been rocking a tiny mustache lately, Geek Squad. I love Geek Squad. Geek Squad. And all we need to do is just get a couple. Like, send a little article into deadline, send a, like, a blind submission into Dumois and be like, saw some Geek Squaders out there on the street. Wait, squad, SQW-A-D, squad.

S-Q-Q-W-A-D. Holy cow, that's funny. Here's what I'll say, and I know we're having fun. Is Sidney Seek Squad or is she too early for Geek Squad? She actually might be, oh, you know who else is, is Glenn Powell? Glenn Powell, but he's a little bit older, right? He's been, to me, he predates Geeks Squad. He and her in that romantic movie they did might have been the birth of Geeks.

That's a Geek Squad rom-com for sure. But that is like the beginning of like, there's a movement here. These guys made $100 million doing this movie. I think this was the birth of Geek Squad. Here's what I want to be very clear to say. I want to be in Geeks Squad. We all want to be in Geeks Squad. I don't know if you can.

Stop trying to be in a movie in Geek Squad right now. I want to be in Geeks Squad so bad. I'll shave a mustache. We're so old. Can't be in Geeks Squad. We're kidding. I'm Geek Squad dad. Here's what you could do in Geek Squad.

You could play a guy who works at a store when the Geek Squad comes in as a cool scene and you can go like, excuse me, you forgot to pay. Now here's the thing. The reason why their Geek Squad is because they bought a hangout place, they bought an old Best Buy, and that's where they can actually party and to be away from people. Like the Blues Brothers guy. Yes, yeah. This is their own club. Because now New York and L.A. sucks. You know, so they actually got it in like, near Omaha.

Yeah. Yeah. It's out of new, it's to be outskirts of New Mexico. It's like a mid-sized city in America. It's the best. All right. So here's, I'm just going to give you a couple people. Just tell me yes or no.

Are they Geek Squad? Margaret Qualley. Geek Squad? Yeah, she feels Geeks Squad. Geek Squad, big time. Geek Squad. Yeah, she's very geek squad. I would say, and then, I mean, and then I would have a good.

go on the fence with like haley steinfeld i mean she's been around for a while no no that she's okay all right and then florence pew no no okay and i yeah i agree with i by the way i agree with but i this is the one that i'm the most who are we who are we to judge you know we are jason we're fans of the geek squad yes yes just like i've a fan of the brat pack big time jena ortega geek squad geek squad uh and then time is right now i'm looking at i'm looking through some names here We had Anna Taylor Joy, but I don't know if she's Geek Squad. I don't think she's Geek Squad. I don't feel like she's Geeks Squad.

We've got to make something very clear about Geek Squad. And this is, I think, what you were saying, Jason, with the, we want to be in the movie. This isn't an insult. No. No. This is a movement of people. So to say the frat pack, guess those guys were frat pack. Yeah.

Vince Vaughn, Jack Black, Owen Wilson, they seemed like the funniest guys in a frat. Will Ferrell? Yes. That you were like, yeah, they probably didn't like that. They're like, we don't know. We're serious actors who are comedic actors. But I was like, I don't know. When you guys all get together, it just feels like you're laughing at those funny older guys that you go, I'm

not in your frat, but you guys are so funny. Yeah. Geek Squad fixes all the technology. Yeah, this is a good thing. Now, there were other ones, the Brit Pack. The Brit Pack was Gary Oldman, Tim Roth, Colin Firth, Daniel Day Lewis. Then there was the Rat Pack Revival. Well, I guess that's this.

them older. I'm looking at some websites through that. This feels like AI created those two. The It Girl Boom.

I don't know if that's a thing. Deadline tried to create that. I guess really Brit Pack. Brit Pack and fat. And Frat Pack is in here.

It's a... You're going to say fat pack. That's mean-spirited. They're like, oh man, my movie in Alaska I got put in the fat pack. I do like Geek Squad.

Geek Squad feels... Geek Squad's great. Yeah. But I'll tell you what's positive about Geek Squad. Because for older people, when you buy technology and you get your first big flat screen, you're putting it on a wall and you go, I don't know how to hang it and get all these different things in there. When the Geek Squad shows up, you think this is the wrong name for what you do because it's a hell of a service. You're very good at it.

It's very efficient. And you fixed my house. You should be the Geek Squad. This is what I see. They're the bridge from the old to new because, look, you know what? my mom may not be interested in going to the movies every week, but she knows Timothy Shalamee. He bridges.

You know what else I like about Timmy, Timmy C? When he wins that award, he gets up there and goes, I want to be one of the greats. Yeah. Great. I want to be in the original rap pack.

That's why I got my geek squad. That guy Jacob is hot as hell. He's doing cool movies. Sidney's a monster. He's doing the new weathering heights. Yeah, you're like, you guys are killing it. This is a group. The geek squad is coming in.

This is the next generation. By the way, we're speaking. All they lack. All they lack is a moniker. We're speaking about this as if they all listen to the podcast and we're like, we're so mad right now. They're so like. But here's what I will say.

And here's what the new era, which we all know has changed and it's way more about technology. So now who, like, you know, this movie I just did the dink we were talking about. Yeah. What's the release of it? Apple bought it. Okay, cool. So what does that mean? Who knows?

You know what the Geeks Squad does? Fixes your technology. Yeah. They make technology cool work. I go, when I hear this stuff, as an old time, I go like, well, what's the theatrical release? Right. And they go like, hey, geezer. Call the Geek Squad. They're like, hey, Jake, your movie's coming out on TikTok in 90-second intervals. It's going to have a 22-week release. I'll never do it. You get one guy in the geek squad. All of a sudden, I'm going, I would love to be, I'd love to be the waiter in the restaurant of your 90-second. Can I tell you, Leonardo DiCaprio is in TikTok's now with the young girl from one battle after the other. Like, he's trying to get a little bit of that. that taste because she's trying to get, I mean, she's trying to get in that Geek Squad, I'm sure. I think this is, I think one of the demarcating lines for the Geek Squad is they are a generation

of digital native actors. Yes. They are, and they get it. They get it and they grew up with it. But you know, you got to also say about the Geek Squad. And this is, you can't get a job at best buying a gig squad unless you're one of the best at it. Yeah. Well, let's not, let's not loft the geek squad.

the Geeks Squad up that high? I feel like it wasn't that. Paul, I'm going to. Paul, I'm going they're the greatest actors of our generation. Oh, no, they're the greatest actors. I'm just saying we're putting a lot of, we're putting a lot of weight on the job interview process for the Geek Squad. How about this? Imagine if you have a new stereo, you try to get it set out. Yeah, yeah, sure. You pay the

85 bucks. Some guy shows up, he's from the gig squad and he goes, don't know. Right. What? You better know, dude. And guess what? I've had him here a lot. They always know. I like the geek squad. Now, they might have to come back two or three times. Sure.

But they don't have all the stuff in the truck. And guess what? They don't charge each time. No, because they will come. They will do the act. Yeah, they get it. It's a compliment to be in the geek squad. I like the geek squad.

Now, I will say, if you're ever in, if you're ever in the outskirts of New Mexico, stop by. Yeah, just hang out. You can maybe see him walking and out of that best by. You see Shalamee bring in. They bring their own, like, chairs in there and stuff. They're cool. This movie.

Grizzly, too. You know, Gives her shit. We're talking about a Geek Squad. Geek Squad to me. I just need to figure out who else is Geek Squad. Here's my question. Did you guys feel like that the bear in this movie would have better,

would have been better if they had cast instead maybe one of the bears from country bears jamboree? Like one of the big animatron. Maybe liverlips McGrawl or Teddy Barley. You know, Big Al, the bears from country bear jamboree, more emotive. I love that you ended on Big Al, the most notable big bear from Country Bear Jamboree. I'm just going in order. Oh, okay.

I will say this. There's a, I mean, many famous stories about why Jaws worked, right? The shark didn't work. There's a play. The shark's still not working. There's books about how the shark didn't work. And what did Spielberg do? He took that and used it to create something that was full of drama and tension.

It feels like in movies like this are like, Yeah, the bear doesn't look real. I'll shoot it anyway. Yeah. Like, no one ever has learned from the lesson. It's like, oh, yeah, well, what he did was not shoot the shark. Yeah. And made a movie without it until the very end.

And then it was great, yeah, the crazy thing is the bear clearly could not move. So it was just a matter of putting the bear in the foreground or the background of shots and having the whatever. So it'd be like the concert and the bear would be super close to lens and you could see the concert fuzzy in the background. And you're like, oh, oh, I guess the bear. has gotten to the concert. Again, 100,000 people at a concert, one big, even a 80. Yeah. Or 80.

80 people, a big grizzly bear is a threat. And 100,000 people. You're fine. By the way, they're protected. They're protected because they're in a grouping of, it's not like they're all across the park. Well, the concert doesn't stop. Right. The concert isn't interrupted by the bear or the pirate technique.

You got a band from the future plane. There's a band from 2016 doing a 2016 banger. The show's going to go on. I mean, first of all, this bear is so big. that John Reese Davies, who is a bigger man, was able to jump on it like a telephone pole. He's also the strongest man ever. He's a strong man.

Bouchard? Bouchard, getting that human scent. He's got the, what is it, the lasso made of a bear or something? He and Stephen Seagall, and I don't know who invented this look, but there was a style in the 80s that some bigger, thicker, white guys invented

where it was just, Taking a few cultures, throwing on an accent where I don't know where it was from, maybe doing a high pony, maybe having a thin beard. And it was just culturally old. So you're just describing Segal. Yeah. And maybe the beard is heavily dyed. And maybe he also plays blues guitar. Maybe he does occasion accent.

Maybe he became a sheriff. Oh, my God. Maybe he released an energy drink as well. And maybe he became friends of who. Putin. It has Russian citizenship now. One quick question, and then I will drop this, because I can tell from the tone of you to it's time to move on. Oh, it's never time.

And I'm sure your audience is ready to do that. Are we going back to the Geeks Squad? But I just need to finish with Geeks Squad. And look, I do it on my own podcast all the time. It's over. Everybody's bored of it. But if we were to recast this movie with Geek Squad and who's playing who, this is a question. Love it.

Love it. Who's playing who? Now let's not start with Charlie Sheen, those guys. No, no. We have to go have the three of them play themselves in this movie as old guys. Who's Bouchard? Who is Bouchard? You want to go start with Bouchard's the big character.

Eelordi, only because he's big, he's a big. Elorty is like 6-2 or 6-3. I was only starting with Bouchard because it's the only character I know by name. How about the main guy with the beard who's your true protagonist? That's Jeremy Allen White. You're totally right. Yeah, that feels like. Who is the blonde woman.

who cares about conservation. The bear scientist. Sidney Swinney. Yeah, that's Sydney Swinney. Or I could see that also being played with the Jenna Ortega kind of a little bit too. Sure, sure, sure. In your dream world, who would you cast?

Well, no, I think what you do is you cast Jenna Ortega as Jeremy Allen White's daughter. That's the play. And that's the weirdness of the age. Do you go for daddy? Yeah, do you go for daddy? They're essentially the same age. Okay.

Great. I like this. And then you've got Jacob as Bouchard. Yeah. I think so. I mean, there aren't any, like, there aren't any big geek squad. Well, because you got to get behind the TV at times. Yeah.

We need, like, a big, who's the big birdie? You need a guy to bring in this stuff. Yeah. The delivery guy in gig squad. I'm also thinking, like, who's our deliverance crew? Like, these are our actor, actors. Again, I may pull a lordy into the deliverance crew, like, Holt, a lordy, like, It's, it's these, you know, these guys are going a little bit.

Maybe, I'm trying to think of another one in that world that could be going real deep in the poachers. Yeah, in the poachers. Yeah, he can get deep in the poacher. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, he would be great. There you go. That's a good poacher crew. All right.

I feel pretty good about it. I feel, I'm happy with it. I like it. And, you know, and maybe what I do is. I could also see Sidney Sweeney as a lady poacher. Same way. I was about to say, and I didn't want to say it, I think there would be a female poacher now. And there would be no comments about the fact that they would be.

but there was a female poacher. Well, Jake, I was going to say this. I want to move off my original casting and pitch you both. You know, I don't know if you are familiar, but Sidney Sweeney is now in this boxing, bulked up in this box movie. I'm like, maybe she's Bouchard. Whoa. I love it.

I don't like it. I don't like it. Now, I hear why it's a good pitch. Right. Okay. But I feel like it's going to be a big thing that Hollywood's going to like. We're going to be excited about it and no one in the world is going to like it. They're going to go.

They don't want to see. They don't want to see her, like, jumping on a bear. No, they're going to go. You get Sidney Switty, one of the greatest-looking actresses of the game. You got her in a black, weird wig, and a beard, and she's a heavy. Wait, wait. She's going to, Joni Mitchell it? She's going to play him, man.

Hey, Bouchard doesn't change. You got to wear the same clothes. Oh, wow. I was reimagining Bouchard. Okay. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. All right, all right.

Now, now we're on the same page. I want to see Jay of the Lord. Oh, you want to see... All right, then back to the original casting. Full stolen valor. Full cultural appropriation. And he's the only character. I want it word perfect.

Everybody has you can rethink his stuff. Accent perfect, too. It's got to hit that. I will say this. If I was also casting, I don't know if she's fully in Geek Squad, but I don't have remember, but there is a French-made waitress

that is serving people in the, during the concert. There's like, oh, there's a moment where they cut away to, like, a server, like just delivering drinks on a table where, like, the summit captain is, like, and she's just dressed, like, from, like, a murder mystery, like, like, that kind of a maid's outfit. Totally.

And I was like, that could be Sabrina Carpenter. I think she could do a fun part in there. Oh, yeah. You know, she's a geek squad. She could be geek squad. She could be geek squad. You do? Well, she's a musician.

I don't know if we put musicians in, yeah. Look, I wouldn't put her or Lydia love me going back. I'm speaking, no. Generationally, they seem like they are Geek Squad adjacent. They might be adjacent, but I'm not putting those. I'm fine with it. I'm not going to But I hear exactly what you're saying

No, I mean it's right but it's also wrong But here's the thing To be clear, Taylor Swift, not No, but hangs with Geeks Squad But it's above Geek Squad Like I think that's Look, is Jennifer Lawrence Like the godmother of Geek Squad?

That's what I was thinking about That's what I feel like that's a little Squad but without if you don't There's no Geeks God without Jennifer Lawrence I agree I agree like you want that like you And you want those people like you know Tom Cruise famously not in the brat pack

But if there's no Tommy Cruz, there's no Brat Pack. Exactly. If there's no Jennifer Lawrence, you would never have Geek Squad. But when she broke on the scene, you're like, she's a great actress. She's great looking. She also could, she kind of could be in Geek Squad, though, too, I think. She's the original Geek Squad before there was enough Geek Squad to fill it in. That's why she's like, I don't think she's a geek squad.

You don't? I think she paved the way for Geek Squad to exist. Yeah, she walked so Geek Squad could run. There you. But you're right that she is a little bit different because she's all. also connected to the older generation. So she's a little bit old school. I would put her more in the Haley Steinfeld.

I totally agree with me. They're in another group. But also Haley's, Haley walked so they could run. And well, where is Zendaya? Zendaya. Shalian Woodley as well. But Zendaya and Tom Holland are in whatever that group is. They just don't have a title.

Okay. Got it. They have their own thing going on. But Geek Squad definitely, I got to say, we might be wrong on Jeremy White. You know, I actually think that too. I was gonna... He's not Geeks Squad. He's too old for Geeks Squad, right?

And also, look at him from Shameless. Because of shameless? Yes. Okay, okay, okay. Now, if there was no... But he certainly seems to be culturally Geek Squad. You know who he is? If he was a beatnik, he's William Burroughs.

Uh, okay. He's not in them. He's older, but you're like, they all love him. But they don't revere him. I don't think they look up to him the way that the beats looked up to Burroughs. I think they do deep down. Really? I think they all want to be in the bear.

I think, I think, I think. I think you want to have, you want, you want, you want to be Bruce Springston. You, yeah, I, Paul Muskell, but they're the, Geek Squad. Geeks Squad. Geeks Squad. Yeah, right? British, I think he takes, uh, Jeremy Allen White. Yes. I think I, I don't think that's right. I think he's, I think he's just a little bit

different. I don't, I, I agree. He also rich cigarettes publicly. Yeah, he's, I think he's just a little, I think the Geeks Squad has to have a little bit of youth on them too. It is. it's a very fine line what's interesting as well is almost everybody we've talked about are feature film actors and jeremy allen white is primarily a tv actor yeah does that change it well we'll see at this award season by the way yeah but no jeremy allen white's going to do whatever he wants now oh the world i mean he's incredibly talented but you are right but i do

think the reason that jeremy is a different animal is he's a veteran and i know i don't count when you're a kid acting. Like Adam Driver. Yeah. Yes. But Adam Driver's for sure not Geeks Squad. No, no, no, no way. But he's just one of those vet who you're like at a certain point, you are without a group.

And these guys eventually will, one of them will make a documentary where they'll go like, can you believe those guys on that podcast called us the Geeks Squad and the other ones will go, I never heard it. They wrecked our career. What's a podcast? I don't think our burgeoning career. I don't think what's a podcast? You mean those geysers in their closets? we are definitely making a geek squad shirt for this episode I feel like we should list them all like your favorite players from a basketball team or something

by the way geek squad does still exist I am looking here yes you can chat with a geek squad agent at any time you give them a call but again we're not spelled the same way we're not our geek squad not spelled the same way wow we really went I mean we did it we did it I don't even think I don't even know we have anything more to say about the movie that's what I I kind of feel like we've, we've done it all, we've said it all. And I will tell you this. Jake, I love your show. You are fantastic on this podcast.

You're fantastic and everything. But I'm just going to talk about this podcast because we're here to help. It's like Monday, Wednesdays, occasionally some Fridays. You got great rotating people coming in. But you and Gareth are great. You are funny. Jason, have you ever done it? No, never done it.

I've never been invited. Jason, you are publicly invited. I'm so furious. June and I have both done it. I'm going to court you from here on out. Yes. But not for Geek Squad. June and I've done it.

And what I think it's so fun is it, by the way, if you like this episode where we are devolving into Geek Squad, I think you're going to love, we're here to help because it is, it is a show that is prone to fun tangents. You get to go off. I got to tell you, our base audience gets very upset with me. I'm the one that are liking the least these days. Oh, my God, just because you chase down. What's funny about a base audience, which I love our group, and it's what I didn't realize this about podcast, they're like, you just form your group and every once in a while you get some new people, but there's the main group. The main group has so many opinions. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. And they get so mad at that. Our audience is going to be very upset about this. Just wait. Yes, this episode is not going to be infuriating to them. But we had this great, that's this movie that we have now spent. And by the way, I wouldn't change a beat of it. I can't believe I watched that whole movie.

and they didn't talk about it for more than 10 minutes. They'll get so, the audience gets... They're obviously just jealous of younger actors, Geat Squad bullshit. I wish Nick Miller would stop talking so much. And that guy who kind of looks like him. They're so... I will tell you this much.

There is, um... This is some facts that are, I think, are interesting about it. You talk about the bears being bad. They went to David Prowse, who played Darryor. and he interviewed and then they said you know what we don't need that guy we'll just hire a very tall mime and they hired a mime yep uh they went with a hungarian mime and uh i did feel like when they did were able to trap the bear in the invisible box that did that that was satisfied by the way that's the best ending moment of any movie a bear running through a concert stage getting

caught in it and I guess electric. Electrocutted. Question mark. And then what was that final line from Nurse Ratchet where she said like, You said part of the show. Yes.

Yes, it is. That's a weird ending. Oh, very weird. No, we don't catch up with any of the main characters again. No resolution. We end on tertiary characters, not real joke lines. And why does she even want to? get back like so she's now running a public park and she wants to get back to dc but it would seem like

she was disgraced in some way she's like the congressman will be here trying to impress them is to invite them to her rock concert in the park doesn't make any sense and then i also love the way they speak about the rock concerts we're like this is how you've set it up it's like yeah it's a one night only event we will be building until the show starts and then we'll be taking it down it's not like you're you built the house and we're having it's like yeah that's we're building a stage for a one Yeah, this is it. We don't, you didn't build Woodstock a year before Woodstock happened. They'd be like, you know, it's like, it.

All the stages are still up. You never take them down. And, and this, there's so many ideas here that were just not executed in any way as far as, like, they just didn't finish. Yeah, they didn't finish. I couldn't tell you what the story was for most of these characters. They just seem to be, scenes stitched together in, it could be like in any order almost. To talk to your audience for a second, yeah, I was upset about this episode. and the tangent we went on.

Is this not the perfect type of episode for Grizzly 2? A stitched together movie that had no through line, that all of a sudden you're in a movie from 83, then you're in a karaoke video and a guy and I go, what am I literally watching? Yeah. And then it just goes to the left. Then there's a scene between a dad and a daughter that's sexual. And they go, what? And she's like, I'm going to make you proud.

Then you're, I'm like, what galaxy? So, of course we went to Geek Squad because Grizzly 2 made us go there. You can't control where we go. Grizzly 2 inspired Geek Squad. This is part of the legacy, the long-lasting legacy. Well, that's the time that we have to spend with Grizzly 2. And, you know, if there was any doubt in your mind, we're not going to do second opinions today, only because who really has an earnest five-star review.

But, you know, and I don't think there are many, but I will tell you that there is one that we found. Actually, Molly found it. Our investigation has led us to believe that this is from the special effects designer. So I'll read it to you. The movie is given five out of five stars. And the title is called Crew Perspective. I read the comments that there were problems with the animatronic 14-foot bear. That might be what the texts were told in the U.S., but there was no such item.

The 14-foot version was a puppet that was intended to be. be used on the full-size stage, and all those shots were completed before leaving Hungary. The half-size animatronic version was complete and working prior to leaving Hungary, too, and we shot tests of it at that time. I had an agreement with Joe Proctor to direct half-size effects and elements. Other than that, there was a man in a suit version that was complete. We were finished and ready to shoot in coordination with the storyboard that I also supervised with Tony Beasley, the money dried up, and the crews.

personal equipment was seized by the government who told us that they were held against non-payment of production bills. We never got our stuff out of there. And that's why, guys, we're going to make the movie that the geek squad will star in where they go in and get the camera equipment. They go back to Hungary. It makes it feel like how many other reels of unseen film are there on the shelves in random countries? Miami Connection is found in a storage locker. There are these movies that people find. And look, that's what we did. We did this.

We did it. Jake, thank you for being with us. I love the Geek Squad. I'm going to think about the Geek Squad a lot. Yeah, we're going to, I'm assuming we're going to start a text thread about the Geek Squad immediately. Because, look, I know it's, it shouldn't catch on, but it's really good. I really, I really like the Geek Squad. And if we can just subtly get it out there.

Like, this is what I've seen kind of pop up. I know it's a little inside baseball, but I've heard a lot of executives use the term meta, and they've call, and they go, well, Barbie's meta. And then I've heard, like, naked guns meta. And I think that they don't want to call it a comedy, so they call it meta. So I think that these things can take on.

Like, Barbie's not meta. It's, you know, it's, you know, it's, but I think that, like, all we need to do is say it to a couple people and make them feel uncomfortable about it. Like, we don't explain it. Three of us have the kind of reach and meetings where all we need to say, maybe here's the goal. We never say that this is where it started. We've just heard it where you go like, oh, Wutherland Heights looks great.

And you go like, well, I mean, you got one of the kings of the Greek squad in it. So you know it's going to, you know, not only is it going to work financially, but you know it's going to be good quality. And they go, one of the members, and you go, oh, the squad, no, you just call them the squad. It needs to come back to us. That's when we know that we have won. SQW-A-D. Yes, when we hear it from someone else, I also think we should say it as if we, obviously, we didn't come up with this, but like, oh, what are, what do they call them, uh, the geek squad?

You know, we could, here's what we could do, guys, we got to call them the G squad. Oh, that's hide it a little bit more. Because we, yeah, like, where did that even geek squad come from? What you just said, Jason sounded insane. Well, yeah, I know. You know that's what you've been saying for about one hour. Because we also look alike, hearing you say it and looking like me,

I realize we're crazy. That's what it's going to sound. That's what that experience is. Yes, it's not good. It can't be a bunch of 50-year-olds being like calling the young honks and howdy's the geek squad? This is a bad idea.

A board. I just got a text from Jake that says, Edit all the Geeks Squad stuff, though. I thought it was a compliment. A board. It sounds terrible coming from us. I'm going to say it like this I'm going to be oh man

you see one battle after another I loved it I mean Alana Hame though trying to get in that G squad I mean she's great she's great What do you mean just the younger generation

Yeah they're taking over You know I thought I honestly I love everything Paul Thomas Anderson does It was nice seeing Leo You throw a guy from the G squad In that movie though I think it's gonna be

Way shit That's box I mean look I think but the problem is I think Paul Thomas Anderson got so caught up And trying to make somebody from the G squad

With like Chase Infinity Who's great But she's not She's not full, yeah. Guess what? G-Squod sounds like gangster squad, and that's cool. Or it sounds like God Squad. Yeah? You know, I'm just saying.

Holy cow. Oh, man, oh, man. I loved it. Tremblay really watched that G-Squod action. What a wild trip this episode was, from the movie to the conversation. Everything. Just an absolute surprise, one surprise after another. Oh, my gosh.

All right. Uh, we'll have, if you have your suggestions for the G squad, hit us up next week on last looks, Jason and I will evaluate and get through it all. Like, oh my God. The G squad's cool the way you just put that. Yeah. This is good. I like the G squad. And by the way, just use it. Alana Ham is the perfect person because she's great. But she's not, she is not G squad. Yeah. She's not. But she's not. She's not. She's not. But she's not. She's not. But she's not. She's not. Yeah. This is good. I'm feeling good about where we're headed with this G squad. And if you're a musician, you're a pop star, you're not G squad. And if you are somebody who, like, writes for Vulture or the Ringer, like, feel free to, like, say, like, oh, yeah, everyone's been talking. Like, let's, we need to, everyone needs to figure out on your substacks, whatever you do it. Vulture would be a perfect place for it.

If Vulture just drop G-Skart, or somebody on TikTok. But here's what I want. I just, I want them to do it, and I would like, I would like to encourage them to do it without referencing us. I agree. No, yeah, you can't. As if it's their own. Because if they reference us, it's going to seem like a joke. Yes.

But if it's just the G squad, it's got to be said, it's got to be said very casually. Again, it's, it's said to make people feel like they didn't know. It's like, it's not about we're introducing the G squad. It's rock. Yeah. Whenever you're doing press, Jake, for the next movie, you've got to be like, you know, we went out. Do you have any G squad in the thing? We chased a couple of those G squad kids, but couldn't get them.

No, there's no G squad in. dink it's uh ed harris is a little bit older i'm thinking really no there's no g squad then i did a movie with dakota fanning she's not g squad no um a couple years earlier she might have been but there's i don't even think l fanning is no i don't either i actually don't think i've ever worked with g squad i've worked with g squad or uh well i did a movie with joey king and she was dating jacob alordy at the time so i guess i was hanging out with g squad joey king is not geek squad oh She's Geekswater adjacent But yes

So I was But I guess I didn't I guess I've never done it Yeah I guess I've not Hmm Yeah you're right All right Okay

Wow I gotta take that in I mean yeah Anthony Ramos Anthony Ramos Hey slow down babe We're getting older This happens

Cheese God comes And then When they come You got to kick some old shit off the boat We're the old shit on the boat Oh yeah We got to be old barrels

Just We are the Wilford Brimleys of that for them agreed oh wow remember we're younger yeah yeah those guys are younger than us younger younger Danny we did it we did it was 42 in lethal weapon to be too old for this shit 42 so guys carroll o'connor was 47 how about this when he played archie bung what crazy 47 imagine a g squatter watching this little zoom of the three of us you know who he's seen Danny Glover Archie Bunker

Yes I mean Wilford Brinley Wilford Brinley 49 in cocoon 49 in cocoon I guarantee those guys don't Yeah have headphones When they do zooms

They do it differently Somehow They know it You can see our wires You geeks Look at us all They're all automated They're all like

They're like They're like What are you doing You can see the mic And we're like It's better sound quality And they're like, you need G-Squod. Oh, my God.

This is so funny. This is the best. Holy shit. Wow, wow, we did it. I don't know what we did, but we did it. And if you're a first-time listener, this is a little different than what we normally do. So I encourage you to check out another episode, if you'd like, and make sure that if you are listening to episodes, you are, you know, following us on, you know, Spotify and Apple Podcast. We will be back next week on Last Looks to talk more.

about Grizzly 2. We can even actually talk about the movie, or we could just keep on talking about G Squad, your choice. I really am interested what June would think about the G Squad. But you know what? Maybe you can ask us about the G Squad on the road. That's right. How did this get made? And Dinosaur are going out on the road on the East Coast. We're going to be in D.C., we're going to be in Boston. We're going to be in New York and Philly, Philly. We're back. So go get your tickets. Go to hd-tgm.com. We cannot wait to see on the road. Joining Dinosaur, Edie Patterson from The Righteous Gemstones, Danielle Schneider from Garbage World, Mary Holland, Rob Wrigal, so many great people are jumping in on this dinosaur shows, and they've been selling out, so come check it out. HDTGM.com. You can also subscribe to the dark web. It's free. It's on YouTube every week. Me and Rob people go to the depths of the internet. Also have a substack, which has been a lot of fun. It's completely free. Or you can also throw me some money if you'd like, but that's not why I'm in this, okay? Enough people are taking your money. June is in Weapons and Freak Your Friday, which are both now streaming. And you can catch Jason in Amazon's Invincible. It's a great show. You can follow us on social media at HDTGM. And a big thank you to our producer, Scott Sonny, Molly Reynolds, and our movie picking producer, Averill Halley, as well as our engineer Casey Holford. We'll see you next week for last looks where you decide what we're going to talk about. Boy, oh boy, it's going to be a lot. Bye for now.