How Did This Get Made? - Highlander II: The Quickening LIVE! w/ Sam Richardson (HDTGM Matinee)
Episode Date: July 1, 2025Sam Richardson (Veep, Detroiters) joins Paul, June, and Jason to discuss 1991’s Highlander II: The Quickening. They’ll talk about why there’s no need to see the first Highlander movie, Sean Conn...ery trying on a suit, Highlander sex in the streets, the psychic cooking show, and much more. Plus, we get to the bottom of where Sean Connery’s walking around money came from and what exactly is the difference between a Highlander and an immortal. (Originally Released 01/20/2017) • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm
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A famous Highlander once said,
there can only be one.
Unfortunately, the producers of this movie did not listen to that Highlander.
We saw Highlander 2 The Quickening, so you know what that means. How this Schwarzenegger grow baby in his belly Rock a Ron Stone vest while ripping Justin
De Kelly Or maybe see a burlesque show with Nick Crowe
And Jacob O will speak to hitting cruise control J-Man, Big Paul and the beautiful June
Gonna take you from the groove all the way to the room
Rander games and street fighter hope to blow off steam
Just a sucker punch the odd life of Timothy Green
Chuck Niddle the birdemic, how we stayin' alive
They call it in the badass and he's on the line
Cranking 88 minutes cause they cool as ice
Cause of bad Jim Barney looking kind of nice
Paul and June getting literal, Jason is getting laid
June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid
They judge a bunch of movies while they making the grade
Here's a real question for you, how did this get made?
Hello, people of Earth! And hello, people of Largo!
Welcome!
Welcome!
We are here at Largo at the Cornet, our LA home for our live shows.
And we are so excited to talk to you about another sequel
following in the brave footsteps of Grease 2,
a sequel made about years late and not asked for.
But unlike Grease 2, this movie makes zero sense.
So here to help me dissect Highlander 2,
The Quickening, I will tell you,
I have some amazing people.
Number one, please welcome Jason Manzoukas!
Whoo!
Whoo!
Whoo!
Whoo!
What's up, Jax? What's up, Jason?
How are you, Paul?
I am excited.
Oh, thrilled to be here.
Very rarely backstage do we stop ourselves from even...
We couldn't even talk about this
on the basis of Levels Backstage.
I came in hot.
I was like, I want to talk about this
as of right now Vexen. I came in hot. I was like, I want to talk about this.
As of right now, starting go.
You were talking about it in your car on the way over.
Talking to myself.
Just ranting and raving.
Probably like the screenwriter.
Why can't I get porcupine hair?
It's one of the things I said to myself. Well, we will find out that and much more.
But first, let me introduce my other co-host,
the wonderful, the talented, the June Diane Raphael!
June!
Welcome! Welcome, June! Hi.
Welcome.
Hi, Paul. How are you?
Very well. Very well. How are you?
June, I will say...
Backstage, too. You guys introduced yourselves to each other.
June and I's relationship is...
How many introductions would you say do we give each other in a day?
Like a random day?
Twelve?
About, yeah, about twelve.
Just to be clear, is introduction a euphemism?
No, they say it's like the key to a successful marriage, to really see someone anew every
time.
Identify yourself at all points.
Yeah.
I'll say, hey June, it's Paul.
And she'll say, it's June.
And we'll move, it's June.
And we'll move on with our day.
I will say-
In backstage you were like, I think we've met before.
She looks damn familiar to me.
You'll place me sometime.
I will say June, and I'm not saying that I was above it
at all, but watching this movie with you
was particularly enjoyable
simply because it was like watching a person
who never has studied take an SAT.
And there was frustration and there was anger
and there was yelling.
We'll get into it.
Now this is what I'll say.
I feel like it's the picture of the girl, woman in Times Square in Westworld.
Like it caused you to short circuit.
What?
I kept on saying, I mean, I don't know how many times I said to you, do you know what's
going on?
Like I felt very scared that I had missed so much.
But here's the thing, I didn't understand any of it, but I also didn't care to understand
it. Yeah. That's the other part of didn't understand any of it, but I also didn't care to understand it.
That's the other part of that, and it's so important.
I didn't care to, and that's what made me angry.
Well, buckle up.
Joining us tonight, a very special guest.
You've seen him in the movie, Office Christmas Party.
You can watch him on the television show, Veep.
He has a brand new Comedy Central show
called The Detroiters coming out in February.
Please welcome Sam Richardson.
Hi.
Welcome.
Welcome, Sam. And I apologize, because this is a tougher movie than we normally do. I don't know what it was.
It could have been forwards or backwards.
I at some point wrote, was this cut out of order?
Michael Ironsides appears to be able to be everywhere at once. I wrote down this, and I mean it with 100% sincerity.
This is not for comedic effect.
The majority of this film I spent
not understanding anything that was going on.
Okay, well, here's... I'm so happy to hear that
for this very reason.
Early on into the movie, I realized something very important.
Okay.
I have never seen important. Okay.
I have never seen Highlander.
Yeah.
As such, I was like,
oh, this must be all Highlander stuff
that I'm not aware of
because I didn't see Highlander.
Now it's all insider jokes.
But I'm glad to hear that you guys also felt
like it was absolute gobbledygook.
Well let me tell you something, Jason.
Tell me Paul.
If you were a Highlander fan, you also would not understand it.
Okay, good.
Because apparently what has happened is they decided, well, yeah, Highlander was good,
but we can't just continue those characters.
Let's just get rid of everything that we set up and create a brand new world.
Does Highlander take place in 2024?
No.
What?
Literally, it is...
This is not the world of the first movie?
Not at all.
I'm being very serious.
Whoa!
There is nothing about this movie that is technically a sequel.
Is the first movie travel time?
Well, the first movie goes back to like the days
of actual Highlanders.
But then it's just 1985 and then like the 1500s.
Right, yeah, they're in like the Scottish Highlands.
Yeah, exactly, like Scotsman.
But sometimes when they're in the Scottish Highlands,
he's got a machine gun.
That made no sense.
I couldn't crack that at all.
Well, that was like some Zardoz level nonsense.
Well, it's interesting.
It isn't.
Well, whatever's about to follow,
I guarantee is not interesting.
Well, here's what I will put down,
and I'll just throw it out there,
because I think it's worthy,
because there's probably some people
who watched the Renegade edition,
which is the director's cut,
and there's some people who probably just watched
regular Highlander 2, The Quickening.
The big difference.
By the way, this all makes me sick.
Like, all these words make me fucking sick.
Fucking hate this.
I hate it.
The big difference that they made with this movie was
that in the sequel, the Highlanders are from the planet
Zeist and they are coming from another planet
to come to Earth.
What?
Yes.
Now the Renegade cut cuts that out.
Yes.
They don't-
In this movie,
they shot it,
in theory going interplanetary travel,
as well as time travel.
So the Highlanders live in another planet
and they come here.
So they don't live in the Scottish Highlands.
Which by the way, that might explain why he had a machine gun.
Because that was not olden days.
That was current.
Current Zeiss days.
Current Zeiss days, just on another planet.
I didn't know that watching this.
And I'm so glad that, because I was watching that movie, like I'm so glad that because I was watching that movie like I'm gonna do a bad job with this
I'm the only one who doesn't understand what's happening
No, this is like I didn't understand why?
Christopher Christopher Lambert was old Lambert. I didn't understand why he kept falling asleep in the opera
Stand why the opera was being terribly lip-synced.
Terrible!
They spent so much money on that opera house, that stage,
and they're like, just get the fucking opera singer!
Just sing the fucking song!
And then I also felt like he was flashing back to this other, now I'm realizing, planet
where he is like the Neo of the Highlanders.
But the Renegade cut does not allow you in on that fact.
Like you can't get that.
What is the Renegade cut?
The one that we watch.
That's the director's version.
The director is-
Wait, you watched Renegade?
The best, Lorenzo Lama?
No.
Wait, that's the cut you watched, I mean?
Well, that's what it's called, the Renegades cut.
If you watched it on iTunes, it's...
I didn't.
Okay.
Oh, I didn't.
I watched it on Ooloo.
Oh, you might've watched.
Well, we'll find out.
Well, if you don't know about the Zeiss,
do you know about Zeiss?
I know nothing about Zeiss.
I don't know anything about Zeiss.
Then if you watch the Renegades cut,
you don't know about...
Okay, yeah, I didn't watch it.
Okay, I was like, shit.
Oh, what is Zeiss? I love it. Like, I was like, shit. Oh, what is Zeiss?
I love it.
I hate it.
What is Zeiss?
I hate it.
A lot of words I didn't know were there.
Just so you understand what's going on here
that makes it different.
Oh, if you say Zeiss again,
I'm gonna punch you right in the nose.
I don't wanna hear Zeiss.
I don't wanna hear Renegade.
I don't wanna hear Quickening.
I don't wanna hear Highlander.
When we were over there,
when we were over there watching the trailer and it goes Highlander to the quickening June goes back quick
Didn't know that was the name of the movie and I was like I get it. Why would you?
Well, let's hear what the producer has to say about this movie now you can enjoy it. It's a sequel because
The characters do pick up
25 years later from when when the first movie ended and we had to resolve those issues
But it's also a picture that stands completely by itself
It is a story that has a beginning a middle and an and an end. Leaves us with an opening to go forward, again for another picture.
But if you've never seen the first Highlander, you should be able to, we felt, watch this one, understand it, and enjoy.
You are wrong.
Absolutely not.
You can tell he's like sick of asking that question.
I don't know. Well, here's the problem.
In the first movie, Sean Connery dies.
Yeah.
That's a big part of the movie.
Yeah.
And in the second movie, Christopher Lambert was like,
well, I like Sean Connery.
We should bring him back.
And they're like, well, he's dead.
He's like, well, I won't make this movie.
And they're like, all right, we'll bring him back.
Was Highlander 2 that big of a success?
I mean, Highlander 1, I'm sorry.
Did it necessitate this kind of, like, everybody
was clamoring for that Highlander sequel?
I don't have that research in front of me, yeah.
I would imagine that people wanted,
I mean, Highlander seems like a movie people talk about.
People talk about it.
It had a great Queen soundtrack everybody loved, you know?
But I don't know if the TV show was inspired
by like the quickening or if it was from it.
What was the Highlander about?
What?
What was the Highlander about?
Sam, you could probably take this one.
Yeah, I think I'll down on the explanation hat.
Connor, Connor McCloud. Connor Mc McLeod played by Christopher Lambert
was a Scottish Highlander and the leader of a tribe, I can't
remember the name of the tribe, but they were warring with another tribe.
The Clan McLeod. That's the name of his clan. And Oh, sorry. And he's playing with Klan, other guy.
And then in a battle, he gets harmed, and then he recovers overnight, and everybody's
like, oh, he's a witch.
Turns out he's one of these Highlanders who cannot die unless their heads are removed.
But he didn't know that.
He didn't know.
So he's just finding out in the moment.
He's like, wait a minute, what's all this?
Uh-oh, Zoinks, I'm immortal. And he's just finding out in the moment. He's like, wait a minute, what's all this? Uh oh, zoinks, I'm immortal.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
And he like, has a-
And then how does he get to 1985?
He's been living lives, not dying.
And the way it is, it's like two highlights.
There can be only one, that means, so like,
it's hard to explain.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Don't, Sam, Don't worry about it.
One of these fucking nerds will help us if we need it.
I want to see if I can do this.
So like they have to all there's a bunch of Highlanders who are these immortal beings
who like but then they do battle because there can be only one.
So they all fight each other over time and they kill each other by removing their heads.
And then what happens is the quickening
where like electricity goes and they gain like power from these
So they take like the essence of the dead height
Yeah, I hear people like no am I wrong is that not right?
Okay, all right
Something's feeling right about you know so they basically just took this isn't helping me understand the movie. I watched it
No
But like thank thank you.
So Sean Conner, his head is chopped off
at the end of that movie?
Yes, because he's a Spaniard who comes in.
He is.
He is.
Ramirez.
I have an update.
Ramirez, who comes to like teach him
the ways of the Highlander.
He is not a Spaniard at all.
And he teaches him like about Highlandering.
And then has his head chopped off as a huge, you know.
Yeah, right, that's a moment.
I was like, oh no, now I've gotta avenge my master.
It's like the Obi-Wan Kenobi moment.
And just a couple more questions.
Yes, exactly.
A couple more questions.
So on a day-to-day basis, what does a highlander do?
Whew!
It's a lot of wrist training for a lot of spins like this.
They're warriors, though. They're warriors though.
They're warriors.
They're warriors.
It's like conditionists.
But then when not high landing, they are titans of industry and developing earth protecting
shields.
Exactly.
That's what I'm trying to get at, which is like what do they want out of life?
You know, what do they?
They just want to keep that head on, baby.
Exactly.
That head on.
So they're living a life of fear, knowing at one point,
someone's going to come around and try to chop their head off.
Try to chop their head off.
That's why you always have a sword on.
But you have to be a Highlander to fight a Highlander.
Like, you don't fight, you don't take on a Highlander
to gain immortality.
You have to be also immortal.
I think you already have to be in the club.
You can't like get it, you can't get access to it
from the outside.
So with this phrase, there can only be one sorry.
So yes, so they have to battle each other
until like for all time until there's one left
and then they win what's called the prize.
What?
What? The prize? Yep.
And I'm murky on what the prize is.
Does anyone know the prize?
Mortality.
That's right, mortality.
Because also-
So you can die.
The gift is death.
I would imagine, yes, that most of them are tired of living.
Yes. Like all of us. And would love to, yeah. But why, hey, yes, that most of them are tired of living. Yes, like all of us.
Yeah, but why, hey, okay, another question.
If I'm a Highlander and I want to, you know, end it all,
I can't kill myself via, like, decapitation?
I don't think they addressed it in the film.
Ha-ha-ha!
The suicidal tendencies of Highlanders.
Highlanders.
So, that movie takes this beautiful history
and flushes it down the toilet.
They just keep the head knocking off part of it.
Like that's really the only part that we really get,
I guess.
Wow, that is wild.
And the names.
And the names.
Because he doesn't even seem to be that surprised
when Sean Connery pops up and they're like,
oh yeah, your head got, you know, there's no,
like hey.
And he's like, whoops, here I am.
Ramirez, my old friend.
Ha ha ha ha.
How did this come in?
How did this come in?
Can I ask another very basic question about this movie?
Why do they want the shield down?
Oh, okay, this is now about the sequel.
Okay. I'm sorry.
Well, I understand that.
So basically, this will help us because I, again, it's one of those movies, This is now about the sequel. I'm sorry. Well, I understand that.
So basically, this will help us, because again, it's
one of those movies, like when you see in the beginning,
this is now become a trope of a How Did This Get Made movie,
where the opening text makes a lot more sense
at the end of the movie.
And I feel like they should replay the opening text maybe
midway through or at the end to be like, oh, right, yeah.
Every 10 minutes, just pop that thing up there.
More text crawls is what this needed.
It needs to be like a silent movie.
Just like indiscriminately throughout the movie,
just text blocks.
The year is 2024.
So the first one, the year is 2024.
Second one, industrial pollution has destroyed the ozone layer,
leaving the planet at the mercy of the sun's ultraviolet rays.
An electromagnetic shield now protects the Earth.
Which, by the way, is also in Escape from LA.
Yes.
The same idea of like the UV tomorrow is going to be real bad.
It's right all there.
I mean, this is what everyone's afraid of, the UV rays.
And it goes, a small group believes that the ozone layer
has repaired itself and that the shield
is no longer necessary, but no one knows for sure.
I read that, Paul.
I got that.
You got that?
I got that.
So?
So, I understand that they're not sure,
but what I don't understand is why,
I guess why that other guy is keeping the shield up if there's no,
like what are they gaining from? Oh, money, money, money. Yeah. I think, um,
wait, you're talking about the bad guy. John McGill. Yeah. Uh, he,
he, he's making money, his company makes money.
So okay, I guess here's the question. Are we to believe that the world has fallen
into, that people are, you know, just turned into animals and there's despair
everywhere because of this shield? Because they can't see the sky? I do
think that that is a little bit what's her name, Louise,
says to him is like nobody has seen the sun.
Nobody.
Like everybody.
Because people grow up at this point without seeing.
When she talks about the sun, she almost
gets real horndog for it.
She's like, oh, tell me about the clouds.
And that's like foreplay for them.
And did video cassette players or DVD players not exist?
Could they not watch?
Go back and look.
Yeah, I feel like there's going to be a book around
or something.
There's a picture or something of it.
They've got TVs in their cars.
You'd think they'd have a way to watch stuff from the past.
It's 2024.
I guess the other question is, so how is the corporation
making money off the shield?
Charging countries.
For protection, it's protection money.
Ozone protection.
But then that shield comes down.
But it's tough because that's one of five plots
that are running concurrently and told to you
with not the proper backstory.
In the beginning, Christopher Lambert
is doing his best, Jean-Claude Van Damme doing an old man,
which is like, talking like this.
Oh my God.
But like, still the same speed that he would speak in
as the young man.
Yeah.
Just talk like this.
I'm this boy's little girl.
But that's fun.
Oh, I remember back in the day.
But when he has to move, he is sprightly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also, like, yeah, because he, because like in the beginning, like, you see him look down
at this old man and he kind of tips his opera goggles to him.
But we don't know who the fuck that is.
Opera goggles.
Right?
Or does he have goggles or is it glasses?
Did you bring your opera goggles?
Sorry, it was glasses.
It was glasses.
I want to be able to see the opera that's happening underwater.
It's 2024. I want to be able to see the opera that's happening underwater
That's 2024 you love that
That's why it looked like it was a dub
So Christopher Lambert so he's old at this point now just to go back to the first movie
Yeah, do they get old? No, but he beat but he won the prize, right? Is that right?
So he won the prize.
So now he ages and he...
So when he gets that cut on his hand
and he sees it heal like Wolverine, he's like, shit.
He's like, shit, here we go again, essentially.
And there's no reason to why he lost the prize.
Yeah.
In this they say, in this thing,
they say, the priests say to, Michael Ironside, right?
Yes.
These, both of these movies have like,
all of my favorite character actors from-
It's the best.
When Michael, because I watched this one first,
Michael Ironside said, I was like, oh yeah,
Michael Ironside, it I was like, oh, yeah, Michael Ironsides, the original Powers Booth.
And then, and then in the next movie,
Stacy Keach, and I was like, Stacy Keach,
the original Powers Booth.
I was like, these are, these are titans
of villainous character actors from the 80s and 90s.
They're so happy.
There's so much, and I think John C. McGinley
falls in that category too.
So much beautiful scene-shoeing is like,
ah-ha-ha!
Yeah.
And even Sean Conner is like,
fuck it!
Like...
People are acting their asses off in this movie.
But the priests say to Michael Ironside,
he's not chosen whether he's gonna grow old and die
or whether he's gonna come back here,
which is apparently something called Zeiss,
which is where they are,
and I'm assuming fight Michael Ironsides for supremacy,
right?
Yeah, I guess that's part of the story.
Here's my question.
After that moment, when he gets zapped.
Then Michael Ironsides is like,
well, I guess I'll go to him then.
Right, but when he gets zapped, he's going to the future, correct?
Correct.
So he's not aging, okay.
Yeah.
He starts aging in the future from whatever age he was at the moment he was zapped in
that place.
Correct.
I think at that point, well, at that point, at that point when there's two Highlanders,
aren't they both immortal?
Yes. I mean, there can only be one. Well, at that point, at that point when there's two Highlanders, aren't they both immortal?
Yes.
I mean, there can only be one.
Here's the thing.
I think we're going to be unsatisfied
if we think we're going to figure it out.
Yeah.
Well, here's why we'll never figure it out.
They shot three endings, there are three cuts of this movie,
and the director left at a certain point.
So, there are some giant plot holes in it. As a matter of fact...
When he kills both the porcupine boys...
Uh-huh.
And what I've now found out is the quickening,
the quickening happens and he absorbs their power.
Mm-hmm.
There is an explosion of energy all around him.
Windows, cars explode, windows are blown out.
Yes.
The number of civilian casualties
that must have died simply so that he could become
young, handsome, lumbar again.
It was worth it.
And it seems like it both hurts him
when the quickening happens,
and it seems like he's coming.
Which is like sex. That is sex.
Just take a listen to this. This is another clip from the documentary of the making of this movie about the actors understanding the movie.
I'd never been in and have never since been in a situation
where the plug was pulled and you actually thought,
well, hang on, have we finished the movie?
It was a complete nightmare.
All of a sudden, people who had been allowed
in the cutting room were not allowed in the cutting room.
All the creative shifted.
You had a new set of bosses.
Different producers came in.
At the end of the day, we're just like a horse
with a different rider on it.
And all of a sudden, this rider was like totally into
purely finishing the film
from an insurance company standpoint.
So you have an actor going,
I don't know if we finished the movie.
Wow.
So that would be...
Well, see, that's why I feel like,
cause there were scenes where Michael Ironside from from scene to scene, was like, okay, for example,
in the scene where they leave the Max prison...
Guys, I don't fucking care about the order of this movie.
Yeah.
They didn't either.
I don't think they did.
So they run Michael Ironside over with the truck.
Louise is like, ha ha, that was amazing.
And then he fights Christopher Lambert on the truck.
They knock him off and they keep driving.
Then they're driving to climb the ladder
to see above the shield.
Cut to Michael Ironside in a room with John C. McGinley.
He's like, we don't have any idea where they're going.
You just fell off the car.
Like, where were you?
Where were you when you fell off the car?
They're not much farther from there.
Like, why did you come back? Why?
He got an Uber, he went back, he was like, I lost him.
And they have a scene which is genuinely like,
John McGinley's like, I don't know.
And it's like, how did you get back here so fast?
What the fuck is going on?
And I think that's not meant to be there.
Well, of course not.
Like, I mean, this movie, like, well,
I think I figured out that this was not
a very well-made movie.
I felt like all the fight scenes in this movie
was like watching a theme park stunt show.
Right.
It was like they would shoot something and like a giant piece of a balcony would fall
off like, gun!
And they're like, wait, how would that?
And like a sharply cut off piece of balcony.
Like no fray at the edge.
Just, pew!
Like you know there's a guy at the bottom like, show's over.
It goes right back in the pit.
And the guy who's on a wire, who's got, like, he's got wings.
This is one of the porcupine boys.
Porcupine boys have, one dude's got a hoverboard.
Yeah.
And that shit is nonsense.
When Lombar jumps on the hoverboard and starts flying around.
And then he's being chased by Porcupine Boy with wings. They're both moving so slowly.
They're both moving at such slow, deliberate paces.
It's shitty beyond belief.
Now I'll tell you who was really nervous
about that hoverboard scene, Robert Zemeckis because
They back to future 2 is not out yet. No. Oh shit
Oh, no, so they got real freaked out from a highlander if Highlander 2 gave us anything
They give us cooler hoverboards Marty McFly would have been on these like I felt I felt like this is where like the Wachowski's were
Like ooh, I know what we can do in Jupiter Ascending.
We'll give him...
Ah, yeah.
We'll give him flying boots.
The problem is the board.
But now, you guys might know this,
but when do you think this movie was made?
I know when it was, but it doesn't feel like it was.
2024?
2024.
I'm gonna say...
1987.
Okay.
No, 1990.
Got it.
I'm gonna price this right at 1991.
1991, 100% 1991.
But this is crazy, because it doesn't feel like,
these are the movies where they're contemporaries.
Terminator 2.
Like Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves,
and Beauty and the Beast.
Like this is like, if this feels like,
I mean maybe it's just the fact that they shot it
in Buenos Aires.
It's like, you know, like old cameras.
Taking shots, taking shots at Buenos Aires.
Weirdly though, there's a couple of scenes,
like the scene where Sean Connery
where he's trying on the suit, like, that looks...
I love that scene. I mean, I genuinely...
I loved it.
It was the best scene.
It felt like it was a film movie.
Exactly. It was so...
It felt like a movie, and it looked like a movie.
Yeah. I was like, finally I understand
a character's wants in a scene from beginning to end, and they are unchanged.
By the way, it's not like I know what he wanted
at the beginning of that scene
and then a bunch of nonsense happened,
and then I don't know where we are now.
The man simply wants a suit.
And I also felt like, why didn't they ever make
a prank show where Sean Connery just got on stage
during Broadway productions and interrupted? That was my favorite scene.
He was really funny.
That was the best.
And like by the end of it, the audience was on board.
Oh yeah.
He comes and interrupts the middle of Hamlet.
It starts like making fun of Hamlet and he's interrupting a show and the audience gets
on his side.
They start out like this, like, what ha ha ha, what, this guy?
And then he just bows, and they're like, yeah!
Bravo!
That was theater!
Why does Sean Connery land where he lands?
Why when Christopher Lambert says,
I need you, Ramirez, my old friend,
why, and thus conjures him.
Why doesn't Sean Connery show up?
Is there something in there that seems to say that the shield bounces him away?
Well, I have a theory.
Oh, yeah, okay.
I think it's because he was decapitated in Scotland.
He returns to Scotland.
Okay, I'll take it.
Alright, I like that.
The nerds agree.
The odd part of this, when he does appear in Scotland,
and this is a screen grab, which if you're listening,
you can't see, is everyone's dressed like they're from the 1940s.
Which is also hard to,
like, oh, so in Scotland they kind of stopped.
Like they stopped, they went backwards almost,
because the shield only went up in 1999,
so they went backwards in time.
Yeah, you would think they would be dressed,
oh, who cares?
One of my favorite scenes in this movie
was early on, There's a...
Should we see that Hamlet scene by the way?
Is it worth?
Yeah.
Just because we have it and it's one of my...
I think it's the best scene in the movie.
Here we go, just real quick.
Well done. Well, now.
Alas, poor Yorick. I knew him, Horatio.
Actually, the name is Ramirez.
Will you get out of here? I'm a Spaniard.
Excuse me.
A fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy.
Forgive me for interrupting your conversation, but...
He hath borne me upon his back a thousand times.
He hath hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft.
Sir, whatever you gentlemen felt for each other when your friend was still alive
is certainly none of my affair.
What's your fucking game, shithead?
Shithead? What's a shithead?
Of my apologies!
Enough of this useless banter.
I shall be on my way and leave you to converse with your scum. Farewell, dear shithead.
Farewell.
And the stage manager very upset. And also good on that actor for watching a man apparate on stage and then trying to continue
the scene.
Professional.
Professional.
And also when he makes his exit, who's playing the bagpipes?
Well, by the way-
Who's playing the bagpipes for the Spaniard who has appeared on stage?
They play bagpipes in every scene that he is in.
That is like his, he has like a motif,
like it's underneath, like, oh, we gotta play bagpipes.
Remind people.
Very subtle.
And I also feel like there was a point
where Sean Connery was like, the reason why he has
that scene where he gets in a suit is just because he's like,
I'm not wearing this fucking Highlander outfit.
I'm gonna work for three days tops.
You're gonna pay me $10 million,
and I'm gonna wear a nice suit,
and guess what? I'm keeping it.
Yeah.
He looks great.
I also just like that Sean Connery
is, like, notorious for picking the wrong movies.
It's amazing.
Like, he was supposed to be in Lord of the Rings.
He's like, no, I'll do League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
He was supposed to be in The Matrix.
He's like, no, thank you.
Like, he's turned down every good movie
and just been like, yep, Highlander 2.
Where do I sign?
This Matrix will never work.
Only if you make the origin story
that we started on another planet
and get zapped here.
Who knows why? Then I'll do it. That's my Sean Connery impression. the origin story that we started on another planet and get zapped here who
knows why then I'll do it that's my Sean Connery impression I think it's pretty
good June I've interrupted you before we played that scene you were you did you
ever thought that before oh I was thinking the female characters in this
movie are insane the woman in the bar in an early scene. Oh yeah. I am so obsessed with it. It's a
performance unlike anything I've ever seen. It was really quite something.
Like so many facets of it. and it's your goddamn fault, you old bastard. Don't turn your back on me. Hey, hey, hey.
There are some people in this world
who know when to stop,
and some people who don't.
Which kind are you?
Okay, Ms. Nobody, you're outta here.
Come on, come on, Come on, come on.
I'll take it back, no prosthetics.
I'm sorry, Mr. McCloud.
No problem, Jimmy, no problem.
And then she comes back and goes, what the?
Oh, son of a bitch!
I love the runaway.
I love her, I love her, I love her.
I love that she runs away.
Okay, I'm obsessed with her,
and I'm also obsessed with the woman on the airplane.
Oh, yeah.
Obsessed.
Also, also, why does the plane appear to be from the 1940s? with the woman on the airplane. Oh, yeah. Obsessed. Also...
Also, why does the plane appear to be from the 1940s?
Um-hum.
Also, on that plane,
why is the instructional video
come on halfway through the damn flight?
Also, why does it end with a plane crash?
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There's a lot of footage of the plane like...
of harrowing footage.
I would argue worse than any airplane disaster movie you've ever seen.
It's really scary.
Used to calm passengers mid-flight.
Yes. Mid-flight.
Mid-flight, it is crazy. Sean Connery appears to be like, he also is in the air for like
days of movie time. So much happens to Lambert while Connery's in the air. It's, oh this
movie guys.
But he says, I wanted to ask you guys what he meant by this because they go, would you like some food?
They show him some food and he goes,
no, I don't eat anything I can identify.
And then, oh yeah, he kind of says,
oh yeah, yeah.
Like, but that's not always the case.
Yeah.
To a woman.
Yeah, because I can't always identify that puss.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, but that's an insane thing. I know when I see it. I'll chow down on it, even if it's an
unidentifiable puss. And those are the lines that got Sean Connery to sexual
harassment lawsuits during the filming of this movie over nine days. What?
What are you talking about? Are you saying that that scene in the movie was, he didn't know he was being filmed?
I want to improvise a line just a bit.
Oh my God, that's amazing. But yeah, that was an odd way to come on to a woman, because it also, she kind of liked
it.
She loved it.
I've never seen a person laugh harder at anything in my life.
You do have to be like, if you turn down putting stuff in your mouth and you want to get with
the lady next to you, you do have to assure her that you do indeed put stuff in your mouth. How did this come in? How did this come in?
June, do you identify with Louise when she sees the raw masculinity of Christopher Lambert?
She?
And just...
That's...
I have a lot to say about that scene.
I mean, ultimately it was just like the same haircut, like making out and fucking,
like watching like two people have the same haircut, like making out and fucking, like watching two people have the same haircut.
Do you think that's what was attractive to her,
is she saw herself in his hair?
It was just an egotism.
It was like a wild image.
And she's just a narcissist?
She's a super narcissist.
They do not know each other.
He throws her in a dumpster as an old man,
like a child's magic trick. When she comes out of the dumpster,
he's a young man, so she raw dogs him.
In the street.
Against a wall in the street.
She's like, you were old moments ago.
I've come out of a dumpster, you're young.
Put it inside me.
By the way, what is that? He does it quite quickly. Oh he just
goes for it and by the way they're just making out and I was like okay cool maybe a make out but
they are hard making out. She's making out with his chin and he shoves it in and comes. Yeah. Yeah, he just came we just watched him come. I It was quick. It was quickening
Thank you, thank you guys guys guys guys, thank you
I'd like to accept my howdy for the no you gotta wait
Two and a half some odd years
before the next one comes out.
And here's the thing I'll say on her behalf.
First of all, let's not just entirely blame her for this.
I mean, completely.
He's being insane.
Okay, but it does seem like there's an energy to this world
where people are just fucking in the streets.
Like, it seems like it's not a crazy, crazy joke.
But it starts on the opening scene.
There's a woman being fucked on a mattress on the street.
That was really disturbing.
Which was not cool.
No, yeah.
I wouldn't say fucked.
I would say being raped, right?
She didn't seem entirely conscious either.
That was terrible.
Yeah, this seemed like a real loving,
this started off real nice. This is like a real, this is like, hey loving, this started off real nice.
This is like a real, this is like, hey, a great meat cute,
as you would call it.
Very Harry Met Sally moment.
She just watched him de-age decades.
And stand out of a fire.
Yes.
Like, then he'd ask her, who are you?
And then they fuck.
She's like, I want some of this.
I gotta, you know, oh my gosh.
That isn't, this isn't a very intense scene
because there's, that's the only connection between them.
And then the next scene she explains the entire.
15 seconds, I just counted it.
Oh.
That's 15 seconds of penetration.
And he came.
I mean, probably he hasn't fucked in like hundreds of years.
But that was 15 seconds.
No, not true, because we do find out that he's had wives and girlfriends.
Yeah, no, no, you're right.
You're right.
But that was 15 seconds of sex, at which point, like, that's disappointing, I think.
Sometimes Highlanders can't hold it back.
And he doesn't apologize.
He's not like, my bad.
Give me a minute, I'll go again.
He's proud of himself.
Yeah, he's like, I did it.
He's like, yeah.
There can be only one. He's not like my bad. I'll give me a minute. I'll go again He's proud of himself
Ramirez came in Ramirez I need help. And Sean Connery from behind,
and it's a very awkward scene.
That's not the Renegade cut.
He's like, I'll help you, Highlander.
I'll eat anything I can't identify.
Why?
Seconds later though, this scene happens,
which is, I think, oh there are things in these movies.
Title cards, flying skateboards, skateboard scenes, and then a movie, and then this point,
which is like probably about 30 minutes in, where they just go, okay shit, the audience is lost.
How about this?
Oh, amazing.
See if I can get this straight.
You're mortal there, but you're immortal here, until you kill all the guys from there who have come here
and then you're mortal here.
Unless you go back there
or some more guys from there come here
in which case you become immortal here.
Again.
Something like that.
Of course, it would be something like that
wouldn't it even he's not sure I think that was the actress legitimately asking
and was being filmed it was a pre before they called action she's like and
there's a moment there where he looks down at sides and he's like I don't know
that that I mean it's all movie reeks of, like,
an additional recording later.
Oh, yeah.
Some wide shot.
Say this as quick as you can, Virginia Madsen.
Okay, so here's the plot.
You came here, and I didn't...
There's no...
Like, that's like...
Thank God they had that wide shot
to shove that all in.
There's so much to talk about.
Go ahead, Sam. Sorry.
Sorry.
My other favorite thing about this scene is that he just got back from being an old man. Now he's a young man
and he just got home and he's got denim jeans that fit so sweet and tight. Did they
stop at a store on the way home? Yeah yeah. He really got into it. He walked out of the
fire dressed like a fashionable young man. No he walked out of the fire dressed like a fashionable young man. No, he walked out of the fire in the same clothes as the old man, but the clothes didn't burn.
Are the clothes here immortal?
Yeah.
Interesting.
Oh, that's an interesting question.
It's not even like the Hulk.
It's not like the Hulk where his clothes are ripped and tattered.
They are completely just hanging off.
Because that makes total sense.
Yeah.
I wanted to also talk about the psychic cooking show.
Yes!
Oh, it's my favorite part.
That's my favorite cook.
Psychic cook.
So what was going on there?
Psychic cook and the airplane video are part and parcel of the same thread of insanity
that's running through this movie.
It's like these two moments of what entertainment is. So again, we're 25 years under the dome,
it's 2024, and now there is a psychic cook who's calling ghosts and then like cooking
next to them as they choke each other.
Yeah, that was the thing. Why is that ghost killing the other ghost?
That's entertainment, baby.
I couldn't figure this out at all.
So it's a world in which ghosts exist
and can be broadcast over TV.
That's another part of this world.
And that's why probably people are fucking this movie.
And it seems like a very highly regarded show.
Yeah, huge.
Like, it felt like they were trying to have those moments
like from Robocop where, you know...
Yes, yeah.
It's like the commercial for the car
that electrocutes somebody.
It's like, oh, that's a commentary on what things will be like in the future.
This one was like, also, ghosts are in the future.
You can eat and see them eat and they're see-through and planes crash in the videos and trucks.
It's edgy.
You get it.
And the subway goes 700 miles an hour
if you just push it fast enough.
You gotta turn the knob.
Why would the subway ever have a gauge that would go...
Why would it be built...
Why would the subway be built to even go that fast?
It makes no sense.
Businessmen are in a hurry.
700 miles an hour.
A man's face explodes off of his skull because of the speed that the subway is effortlessly
capable of achieving.
My question is why didn't Sean Connery take a subway from Scotland to wherever they are?
Great.
I love too that Michael Ironside says to the kid, you want to see how fast this thing can
go?
And by the way, real fast is the answer.
Really very fast.
And every single person on that subway dies.
I was like, oh, this is crazy.
And then I was like, oh, wow, they're killing everybody.
Children, I mean, everybody's dead on that subway.
That little kid is dead to me.
Meanwhile, oh, that whole thing too.
Wait, is this video or is that just the picture?
I have a video of the subway scene.
Can you play it, please?
Yeah.
Only because, only because it happened.
This movie has one of the best insane visuals
to terrible electric guitar scores,
combinations of any movie we've ever done.
You know, Sam, you brought up that the first movie,
the music was done by Queen. This movie, the music was done by Stuart Copeland.
From the po... Yes.
From the police?
Oh, by the way, bad on him.
Because this is terrible.
And I love Stuart Copeland.
Yeah, that's what... All right, here we go.
Oh!
I I think that mother went after her kid in a very lackluster way.
The baby carriage rolls down and she's like trying to get him.
She doesn't cry out like, oh my baby.
Someone stop it.
She's like, oh crap.
I'd also like to think if I'm a passenger on the train
and not the mother of that child,
that I would reach out and just stop it.
Yeah, like, oh, there you go, save that baby.
Let me help you.
Yeah.
What I also love about these actors are all,
I mean, Christopher Lambert gives the most grounded
performance, I would argue. Virginia Madsen, too.
But they were so into the roles
that Lambert refused to use fake swords for the fight scenes.
And the first time they ever gave him a real sword,
he cut his finger down to the bone.
Oh, my God.
And then, um...
And then Michael Ironside
chopped off a part of Lambert's finger.
And then Lambert got his tooth chipped.
And then Michael Ironside dislodged his jaw in a fight scene.
And then after that, they were like, okay, you have to use plastic swords. And they real, and then, still,
Lambert has terrible eyesight, so he can't see,
and he almost cut off Michael Ironside's thumb.
So.
So.
And basically, his argument was, well, it's hard to,
to do precision thrusts
when you're wielding a 22 pound broadsword.
So that was his...
I thought it was worth it, it shows in the film.
Can you, hey Paul.
Where is it?
Paul, can you forward to the end of this scene
by any chance?
Not the very, very end, but like the last 15 seconds maybe?
Yeah, yeah, what have we got?
Okay, I just okay
I want to watch I want to watch the the the guys head explode and then I want Michael Ironsides is final line
If we have it. Yeah, we do here we go Hey, Michael.
Usually you're getting it.
Oh, shit.
Oh, fuck.
So he comes out, looks straight down the barrel of the lens and goes, last stop.
Right? Is that what it was?
Hold on.
I wrote that. Yeah, I wrote it.
Yeah.
Because every last everyone's dead.
He looked, but he looks right into camera.
It's like he's like, ha ha ha.
Last stop.
They say things.
They they say things sometimes that feel very bizarre in the world.
Like it's like, well, I wouldn't say that. They say things sometimes that feel very bizarre in the world.
Like it's like, well, I wouldn't say that.
OK, especially because and Michael Ironsides and Sean
Connery, they do a little bit of business with Sean Connery,
but they make no effort to have them be like, what world am I in?
Yeah. You know what I mean?
Like Michael Ironsides just starts driving a train.
He was just zapped here from Zeiss. Or the past. Or the past on Zeiss. I don't know.
I had to believe that he's been zapped there before.
You think?
But this, I think it's possible. Yeah, I do.
Maybe Zeiss'd have subway trains.
Yeah, he had subway trains.
Maybe he did Semester Abroad.
On Earth, but he was at Zeist U.
But there are some odd, like there are odd moments
because then when Sean Connery comes in,
he kind of makes some sort of weird reaction to a statue
and Christopher Lambert is like, that's a sculpture.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, I think arguably the one thing
you probably did have was some sort of like sculpt,
like stone carving would be the most familiar thing.
That's not new.
Yeah, that's not the new thing.
It's like, that's a TV, I get.
He's like, oh, what is this odd stone thing of a man?
But then like, also like he's here, then and he sees a bus go by and he's like,
whoops so much for horse and buggies and then he's like,
reep-a-doo-doo!
They're unfazed. Look John C. McGinley watches Michael Ironside come in and he's like,
you just kill all these people, he's like, I'm not even moving.
And he's just a businessman.
No, he's not just a businessman.
He's the head of SHIELD.
Oh, yeah.
And then doesn't Michael Ironside, I don't even know what Michael Ironside's doing,
but he gets a man's face on the table and he's like,
he's pulling his head open from his jaw.
And you're just hearing like crack, crack, crack, crack.
I have a real question.
Up until now, none of my questions have been real.
No.
OK, Michael Ironside, Sean Connery, Christopher Lambert,
OK?
They all are from the past.
Also, maybe are from another planet.
OK.
Regardless, they find themselves in 2024 on Earth.
Yes.
How do they keep finding each other everywhere they go?
They are so easily locatable by each other at all times.
Do Highlanders know where other Highlanders are?
It's an app.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Hang on, asshole.
Wait, is that real? Yes. Oh. Hang on, asshole.
Wait, is that real?
Yes.
Wow, they're drawn to each other.
Mm-hmm.
Drawn to each other.
Wowee, okay.
Okay, then actually that, I'm glad you said that
because I was really like, this is shitty
that they keep showing up and being like, I found you.
When you say they're drawn to each other,
do you mean they have to, like, sort of put the vibe out there
looking for someone, or they're just, like, naturally?
Well, because I guess their only job is to kill each other,
right?
Yeah, exactly.
That's the thing they're ex-
So they have, like, a homing beacon to the guy
that they're going to fight.
And to win the prize.
To die.
To die.
So you're dying either way.
Yeah.
You're either going to get your head cut off,
or you're just going to die.
You're going to die eventually.
Not really a great upside there.
How about the fact that when he goes out to fight,
Virginia Madsen straight up reads his centuries-old diary.
Oh, yeah.
She's like, oh, what's this big book?
Also, like, I'm not a big journal keeper,
but like, he's been keeping the same diary
for hundreds of years, it's one book.
Does he do like one entry a year?
Highlanders are thrifty.
They get, you know, a moleskin notebook.
But I'm also like, hey, don't look at my diary.
Yes, I'm immortal, but like, don't worry about it.
And she's basically like, so there've been other women.
I did appreciate that he has.
Who's this bitch?
I did appreciate he had amazing penmanship, which is it.
It's really going the way of the dodo bird.
People don't have good penmanship anymore.
What about, was his wife talking to him from beyond the grave too?
When she was all burned up?
Now if you are sick with like UV rays, is that what you look like?
I think you're all burned up.
So you've gone outside and you got burned?
You were exposed to the sun is, this is assuming, this is what I'm assuming, because there were so many people,
the sun is too powerful and you get all burned up
and that's why they created the shield
to keep the UV rays out,
but to plunge us into a dystopian future of darkness.
Wouldn't it have just been better to start the movie
with him creating the shield?
Yeah, I would have loved to have seen that.
When you finally get to the idea that he created this.
Oh, you mean a shield origin story?
Yeah. You're like, you're at least 40 minutes deep.
You're well into it. You know the shield exists.
Yeah. So they're like, oh, here we go.
We're turning it on. I know it's on.
Like, yeah, like the better,
the better thing that would have been was like,
why he's visiting his wife, she's dying.
Then he creates the shield and then flash cut.
In the middle of it.
Or in the middle of the, in the middle of the in the middle of the create
Oh, oh, I see what you're saying. So it's like that's how to start the movie. That's how you would start it
Just hey audience, we like you to follow along with us just a tad
What's built instead of making it a reveal which doesn't only the reveal is like, oh, it's beginning to make sense
like like the
That's what they're revealing is just sense.
Have we even mentioned that Virginia Madsen,
Virginia Madsen?
Yeah.
Yeah, is a eco-terrorist?
We have yet to mention her flawless break-in at Shield HQ,
which involves some real nonsense.
These people would have been caught instantly.
Everyone seems to give up very quickly.
And everybody gains access to everything very quickly.
Immediately.
That's all.
I also didn't, I legitimately didn't get,
when she was out there and she's changing her clothes,
she took off her clothes in the street
after her amazing espionage mission.
And then there was a phone number and there was a note.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Where did that come from?
His number and then that was just it.
It was, did it say McCloud and his phone number?
And then she randomly, I thought you were somebody else.
And then that's the only address.
Who gave her that number?
I have no idea.
And did she call it? Wait, wait, wait. I thought you were somebody else, and then that's all they addressed me. Who gave her that number? I have no idea.
And did she call it?
Wait, wait, for real, who gave her that information?
I don't know.
Ramirez?
I thought maybe she found it while she was in, maybe it was a scene that they cut where
she found it during that mission.
I don't know.
Maybe the cab driver gave it to him.
She's supposed to meet him. It's an address. It's not Maybe the cab driver gave it to him. That cab driver. She's supposed to meet him.
It's an address.
It's not a phone number.
Oh, that's an address.
It's an address.
That's right.
But still, which would lead me to believe she's coming to the bar to meet him where
he is when the Porcupine Brothers attack.
But why is she sent to meet with him?
Because he created the shield.
By whom though?
Maybe by his partner?
The old man?
Oh, because that old man was sending messages
to somebody, remember?
And then like John C. McGinn was like,
I see all those messages.
Yeah, that's what they send him to prison then.
Yeah, this is hard.
The audience is doing a lot of work.
Those messages that you're talking about
are the messages he was just communicating with.
Fuck, fuck it.
This isn't a good movie.
I never, and by the way, just I wanna talk about
you and I watching this movie together.
You were, I'm being serious,
I've never seen you get this mad at a movie.
I was really mad.
And feeling like someone was tricking you.
Cause you said to me, you were like, do you get it?
Do you get it? And I said, and then at one point I said, me, you were like, do you get it? Do you get it? And I said...
And then at one point, I said, yeah, of course.
I never really thought of that.
And you would reply like, tell me!
Tell me!
I was like, well, you know, because it's about...
It's more of a metaphor.
It's not necessarily a straight story.
And you're like, what?
No, because what angers me about you is that...
You then go on after viewing this
to do tons of research about the movie and understand it.
And if I did that research, yeah, I'd understand it too.
But I'm just, with an open heart, coming here,
describing my reactions.
Well, Paul, how does that make you feel?
What June just said was how she felt
and how she feels about annoying about you.
So how does that make you feel to hear that?
I guess maybe I need to have more of an open heart.
I'm so sorry.
We just asked him a question.
I know, but I just looked at the clock.
Oh, man.
Should I be here for this?
I know, but we're so appreciative that you're here.
Well, obviously we have a lot of questions, but we've barely tapped the surface.
Now we're coming to you to answer or to ask us some questions, to answer some questions, to make observations.
We're not going to have answers.
You never know. You might have a real Highlander head in the house.
Alright, okay here we go. Sir, your name, your logline, Highlander 2, the blank, what would you call it, and your question?
Highlander 2, what? Alright, I like it. Here's your question.
What the hell was happening with Sean Connery and the fam?
Like, could he?
Oh, yeah.
Not the main diss.
When Sean Connery used the Force?
And then he just blew up.
The fam didn't crush him.
Yeah.
No, no, you mean when he used the Force?
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Well, yes, the Force.
But then he died.
He didn't get his head cut off.
But my whole theory about Sean Connery...
I thought for sure.
Right.
It was a beheading device.
That's the whole point of the device.
But I also thought then, like, as a, just as like a creative type, I was like, why even
bring Sean Connery here?
Because the action, if you track Sean Connery's story, it's like he interrupts a play, he
gets a suit, he meets Christopher Lambert, and then he kills himself.
Like, he doesn't do, he meets Christopher Lambert, and then he kills himself. Like, he doesn't do anything.
He helps get Christopher Lambert into the jail
by having the both of them get shot 200 times.
But he could have done that.
By the way, Virginia Madsen's in the trunk
and somehow makes it out alive.
She would be so dead.
How did he get that door open?
And where did that come from?
Right, they slipped out of it.
The door they got out of.
Magic.
Magic is the answer.
Well, you're asking a lot of great questions, so I'm going to give you this pamphlet of
what happened to Lumpy from the Star Wars Christmas special.
So I left some gifts.
There's actually, for you three, there's one that relates to the Star Wars Christmas special.
I don't like it.
He wants to know what a Wookie Cookie is.
So I'm sorry, we're allowing random bags to just be put on stage.
I'm sorry, Largo Staff, what's going on?
Are we just cool with randos leaving bags on stage?
What world are we living in? Guys, come on!
Also, where's my gift?
Alright, ma'am, your name?
Well, you would subtitle
the Highlander 2 movie.
And can you point out anything that you've left on stage?
So first of all, what's your name?
Jennifer.
Highlander 2, the?
Sex too fast.
Alright, your question.
I was just wondering, in the scene where Sean Connery goes to the shop to
get his clothes if anybody thought of Pretty Woman at that point?
One thousand percent. Yes but only because I'm always thinking about Pretty Woman.
Also like why was... It's not in the Renegade version,
but it's in one of the others.
Also, why was the main guy being such a dick
about that tart, that Scottish brim?
He was like, no!
But like, well, who don't know if he likes it or not?
You know why?
Because the other guy kept trying to put
Scottish stuff on him, and he knew that he was a Spaniard.
But then that back...
But why does that back bumper
following him around all the time?
Here's something for you.
This is a little graphic design
from someone called Hanksie.
He's like Banksy, but with pop culture.
Hanksie.
All right, yes.
Yes, your name, your title, and your question.
Here we go.
You go first.
My name is Shane.
Shane, Highlander II, the?
There should have only been one.
OK, great.
Your question.
OK, so did you guys notice that when he goes to the bar
and the bartender knows him, they cheers to a drink.
He's drinking whiskey.
The bartender, for some reason, is
drinking a tall glass of milk.
Ew. And they live in a world where the, I don't know if they said it in the movie, but it
read that it's 99 degrees outside at all times.
So he's drinking a tall glass of milk on a hot day.
Gross.
And what's even crazier is I heard it was breast milk.
Cause that's what everybody's into in 2024. Boob juice.
And they were... I had a terrible joke I'm not gonna say. This is that's a great
observation a lot of research went into that and you get this notebook that is
using the VHS cover of Masters of the Universe done by this guy on Facebook called Facebook.com slash piece of work W-E-R-K. Yes, your name, so your your
subtitle and your question. What's your name? Kevin and it's Highlander 2 who
writes this shit. Great, love it. Apparently by the way an Argentinian
financial company who when the movie started going over budget they started giving script notes.
Anyway, here we go.
Oh, that's amazing.
Now there's really only one Highlander. That's Conor McLeod. Everybody else is just immortal.
He's the Highlander because he's from the Scottish Highlands, right?
You tell me, bro.
Like a Dracula.
You're speaking more authoritatively than I am.
Yeah, if you say so.
No, but you know when Sam was describing it, I assumed that they're all Highlanders and they just battle until there's one left.
But then why does Sean Connery call him Highlander?
Because he's a Highlander.
But what was Sean Connery?
Sean Connery was actually Egyptian by way of Spain.
Wait, Sean, did you hear this?
Yeah. Yeah, this is crazy
because the only Scottish person in the movie played a Spaniard. So the only Scottish person in the movie
played a Spaniard by the or an Egyptian by the way of Spain so he's a Highlander
so what makes Christopher Lambar special? Not as, I'll tell you what. Whoa!
Wow!
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Christopher Lambert.
He's over there crying.
He's not coming out.
He's so upset at you.
He's hurt.
Oh, he's not coming out because he's really sad.
Wow. You guys, you would have had a whole interaction
with Christopher Lambert if it hadn't been for that guy.
Wow, Chris, Chris.
Oh, Chris, no.
Chris, Chris, no, no.
No, don't, oh boy.
Does anyone.
He's taking his shit.
Not backstage, aw.
It doesn't hurt him, it just hurts us.
All right. Does anyone understand the Highlander a little bit more that we could kind of pick your brain
Okay, that was a very
authoritative hand raise
because I do want to understand is it Highlander or
Highlander and and and
And is it Toyota based on that?
And, and, and, which is the Toyota? So are you driving, like when you drive a Highlander, is it impenetrable?
I'm immortal!
It goes 700 miles an hour!
Hey, was that just another Highlander?
Shit, there can be only one!
Remove the engine.
They never went for that tie-in, Toyota, really?
Yet another nerd battle of Highlanders on the 101.
All right, so you have some Highlander now.
Yeah, I'm going to go back and kind of finish with the prizes.
Not only is it because mortals are sterile,
so he's not gonna be sterile anymore,
but he's also gonna be-
Wait, wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I'm gonna ask you to not gloss over that fella.
Sterile?
Mortals are sterile.
He's upset because-
Immortals. Immortals.
Immortals are.
Immortals are, and he's upset in the first one
because he has a wife and she can't get pregnant.
It's his fault because he's immortal. So anyway, the prize, he becomes mortal,
but also he gets to hear the thoughts and become one with nature and hear the thoughts of everybody.
So my whole problem with the second movie is how does he not know that people are, you know, misusing what he's trying to do?
And anyway, so that just bothers me the whole time. Yeah. So, so upon
gaining mortality, so that just bothers me the whole time. Yeah. So upon gaining mortality,
he can just get his wife pregnant?
Well, he can become fertile,
but he can also hear everything.
Yeah.
Got it.
So at the end of the movie, the prize is
he's gonna know everything going on.
Like he can hear the thoughts in everybody,
and he's supposed to help bring humanity together.
Got it, so he's like Professor X.
Yes.
Without the room, without Cerebro.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
And he can walk, as was pointed out here.
But then he doesn't have a baby.
And can walk?
Hey, dick move, bro.
Thanks for the explainer, but you don't have to take Professor X to task for being in a wheelchair, bro.
Yes, you have a good question here. Come here.
I always like when someone pimps out one of their friends. Here we go.
Your name, your subtitle, and your question.
My name is Jenny. It is Highlander 2, The Confusing.
Ooh, I like that.
And I want to know where Sean Connery gets his wham, his walking around money. Because
I know that he traded, but that earring is definitely not worth at best 500 bucks. Not
nearly as much as that suit. And then he gets on a plane. How did he get to the plane? How
did he get that ticket?
I agree. How's Michael Ironside doing all the same stuff?
I agree. That is a 400 or 500 year old earring though.
How much?
They go up in value every 100 years.
And it made the earring.
So is it a cash back thing?
Does he give that earring to the suit place?
Like, well, I guess we'll pay you $2,000 extra.
Does he take the earring and put it in the cash register?
Yeah.
And you see like, is there a barter system in 2024?
Beads for suits?
Yeah, but then you'd have to get like a cash back at a certain point
because they would cut that earring up in half.
This is a tough question.
You know what? This is the part of the movie
that makes no sense.
And that's a bummer because up until now
everything has added up for me.
But that's a hole that I feel like they didn't address.
By the way, yeah, where did Sean Connery get his Wham?
Yeah.
We didn't even think about that.
And it sucks, because you loved it,
and now your mind's gonna go there all the time.
Yeah, now the movie's kinda ruined for me.
Thanks a lot.
Wait, is Wham a thing?
I've never heard of it, and I love it.
Yeah, I mean, you know.
Raise your hand if you've heard Wham before
for walking around money.
Everybody in her row.
Okay, good.
Her three friends raised their hand.
I was just making sure I'm not insane.
Yeah.
So, just to be clear, Wham is not a thing.
You should stop saying it.
She's trying to get it out there.
Trying to get it out.
I want to come to you guys.
You both are wearing the same sweatshirt,? Oh my gosh this is great there it's a The Room not
the Brie Larson movie but the Tommy Wiseau movie and it's a Christmas sweater
that says you're tearing me apart Lisa but it's a Christmas like a Christmas
decorated room sweater it's awesome. Let's talk to both of you. Your name, your subtitle and your question.
My name is Bree. Highlander 2. Let's get Zeisty.
Like it?
So there's this part where Christopher Lambert goes to see his former partner at the shield
office where there's a lot of industrial fans happening. And this computer screen is like
the see‑through thing. And John McKinley walks in the room
and they're acting like super secret,
like he can't actually just see what's on the screen.
And also, John C. McKinley doesn't say a word
about the fact that fucking Christopher Lambert,
who started this company, is young.
Yeah.
And not.
Nope, barely anybody does.
The partner's like, you look great, what did you do? A face lift? And not... Nope, barely anybody does. Even his partner. His partner.
The partner's like, you look great, what did you do?
A facelift?
And he's like, something like that.
If by a facelift you mean I murdered two immortals,
I threw the quickening, gained my immortality back,
raw dog this lady.
Well now at least we know he can do that
without the fear of impregnating her.
And it makes that part of the movie a lot more palatable to me.
And now I'm here talking to you, old dude.
I'm also gonna give you a little piece of work for that.
And now your name, your title, and your question.
Name's Jim.
Highlander 2, The Free Men of Zeist.
The what?
The Free People of Zeist.
Okay, got it.
Love it.
So this movie with Michael Ironside, his henchmen actually tell him what the plot hole of the whole fucking movie is before he starts anything in the Renegade Cut.
And he's just like, no, no, it's fine. Like the porcupine men literally say, if you send us back in time, he's going to be in Molotov again.
You could just wait a couple of years and he can die.
Yes.
So the whole movie doesn't even happen.
The priests say that he could still choose
to come back to Zeiss.
Oh God.
Yeah, you're right, you're right.
But I guess what I took away from that,
and again, I don't know a ton about Highlanders, but.
Wait, June, you don't.
I don't.
Even having now watched it.
But what I took away from that was this idea
of there can only be one, and if he were to die,
he would be the one, right?
Yeah.
So that's why he went.
But wouldn't there be another one?
How many, yeah. So they don't get replaced. I wouldn't there be another one? How many? Yeah.
So they don't get replaced.
I don't know if they keep on popping up.
Is Highlander, okay, now I have a question.
Is Highlander a thing
that throughout time there is always a Highlander?
Or is he the Highlander because he's from the Highlands
and as a result what became the Highlander was...
Yes?
Yeah, that was like his...
Highlander.
Okay, hey, guys.
Wow.
Hey, bud. Hey, bud.
Whoa, hey. Hey, fella.
Whoa, man.
Hey, don't shake your feet.
The producer of the movie is here, and he...
Christopher Lambert?
Okay, hold on one second.
I'm done taking a shit, and now...
Everybody shut up except for the
loudmouth. Loudmouth, explain it very concisely. Wait, but I gotta go too. Really? Do we care? I also think we've asked this question like ten times.
Yeah. But I'm curious to hear it again. Okay, he's over there Paul. He's on the other, he's that asshole.
I'm gonna go around. Going around, going around. Most exercises I've gotten in weeks. There we go.
Alright, here we go.
I'll hold the mic.
So he's the Highlander because he's from the Highlands.
Everyone...
Don't talk to us like we're idiots!
I fucking watched this fucking movie, bro!
Hey, hey!
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Here's what's not happening.
Here's what's not happening.
We don't come bring the mic to you
after you scream from the audience
for you to condescend to me.
I'm sorry.
Wow.
I'm sorry.
June threw down her notebook in disgust.
Wow.
Every member of the stage just got up to fight you. I want everybody to get a look at
this guy so that we know who the asshole is. Alright so watch your tone and explain this movie
to us. Alright here we go. So the the immortals are like capacitors. They contain energy from the universe.
And when they kill each other by beheading each other,
they gain the energy of the person they beheaded until there's only one.
And he contains all of the leftover energy, which is the prize which he gets to die.
Boy, so the immortals though are not Highlanders, but the Highlander is immortal.
Okay, so can I ask you this?
If in the first movie,
and I don't know the first movie,
obviously I didn't see it.
If Sean Connery had killed everybody,
would the movie be called The Spaniard?
Because he's from Spain.
It would be called The Egyptian,
because he's from Egypt and then went to Japan and then went to Spain
and then went to Scotland.
I legitimately hate you.
Uh.
But.
June.
But I thank you for your service.
So, it all comes down to this for me.
Now give me a howdy!
Never!
June, now it all comes down to...
This is what I'll say to you.
And I want to ask you in all honesty.
Do you have a better idea of what a street fighter is or what a Highlander is?
You know what I think Highlander
So you know what a Highlander is? I think so. I think I have a pretty good idea. Want to hit back?
But I think I have a good idea
So there can be only one No, I don't. I don't. But I think I have a good idea. Oh my gosh. I'm going to leave it at that.
So there can be only one refers to only one immortal, not only one Highlander.
That's, that makes a lot more sense.
That's huge.
Because the movie is like, I think, yeah, the idea that there could be a movie called
The Spaniard is helpful. Yeah, I think that makes sense.
And I wish it hadn't been delivered how it was delivered.
Yeah. Me too.
Yeah. Me too.
But I am grateful for the information.
Yeah. Well, we can talk about The Highlander all day and we can talk about
The Spaniard all night. But there are some people out there that have a
different opinion about it than we do it is now time for second opinions Tell me what is the message Maybe that art is subjective
I need a second opinion
That is John LeJoy!
The very funny, the very talented John LeJoy.
He's got a fantastic record. Go buy it on iTunes.
It's really, really great.
So John Laveau, thank you so much for your second opinions.
Theme, and these are five star reviews called from Amazon.
Not many.
Not even many one star reviews.
Seemed like people passed this one in the reviewing matrix.
They were like, not gonna even spend the time,
but I do have a few.
This one is from Kevin Gandy.
Written on January 31st, my birthday, 2015.
Wrote simply, just what my child wanted.
Five stars.
Ha ha ha!
To be disappointed.
This one... Just what my child wanted. I'm a divorced dad.
I don't understand my son.
This is written by Lon Sugara, and this is a tough one
to make sense of. So it's not me, it's Lon.
My fantasies get tickles by the dream.
The truth about physics is revealed
just by watching movies and playing games
and eating good food and experiencing different things
and hanging around girls. -♪ Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Like, that's either really profound or it's a bot.
I don't know.
We now go deeper into the pit.
We go into third opinions.
These are where we just see what people gave it, the one-star review.
This one is titled, What a Horrible Movie, dot, dot, dot.
And it says, I am just confused by this plot.
Did anyone read this and say, hey, this makes no sense?
One star.
So that is the second opinions there.
Blake J. Harris will probably go deep with someone
to talk about this film.
You can find his articles on slashfilm.com.
I love doing this show. I love finding out different things and this is something that I thought was well worth it. I have two things before we kind of
wrap up. One is, well I'll do this first. One is how the movie could have ended.
These are the three different endings on the three different things. The fairy
tale ending. Louise and Connor return
magically to Zeiss,
embrace in front of a field of stars,
they transform into light, and fly
into space.
That is one ending.
Okay, the
uh, okay, this uh...
Like all fairy tales.
There's a British version, which is
ten minutes longer, and it's version which is 10 minutes longer and it's
closer to the original script and it includes flashbacks and an alternate
ending. They don't get more of that. And then the Renegade version, which is one
that we've watched, is all references to the planet Zeist and them being aliens
are removed and a lot of people think this is the best one because it doesn't severely change the canon.
It doesn't like, because basically when they become aliens it basically takes away everything that people have done.
I see.
And then they tried to make a Highlander TV show and so Lambert declined to reprise his role.
So they created a new character called Duncan McCloud,
who was also the Highlander,
but then Lambert came back in and was in the show.
So that kind of confused the mythology again
to have two Highlanders.
And then another Highlander movie called Highlander 3,
The Sorcerer came in and I don't know what happened there.
But this is kind of my favorite part of the entire thing.
This is Roger Ebert trying to explain the plot
of this movie.
And let's just, I'll just start it around here
because he talks some shit at the top,
but all right, here we go.
Highlander 2, The Quickening.
Plot of Highlander 2, The Quickening,
is one of the most hilariously
incomprehensible experiences I've had in a long time.
The immortals from the planet Zeist,
who are caught in a time warp of their own,
involving the fact that they got oriented in Scotland
500 years ago, plus events in the year 1999 and more events in the year 2025 plus the cartel plus the
ozone shield plus the mysterious killer plus the beautiful independent scientist who exposes
the secret of the ozone.
Him trying to put together the movie and I think he does the best version of it and that version he said mysterious killer
Is there a mysterious killer?
Is that Michael Ironside? I guess he's not that mysterious
All right. Well going around the horn
Does anyone recommend this movie would you say watch it? I mean obviously not for quality
you know, this is not the, this is not the La La Land of the season or, you know,
but it's like, would you say it's enjoyable enough?
No. No.
I'm gonna say no. It fucked me up.
It fucked me up.
I'm still like, I can't like think.
Yeah.
I feel the same.
I felt like, I feel like the way maybe
someone that was coming over to the New World would feel and when they saw the Statue of Liberty
But when they got off the boat it was like now and it was like they came from the 1920s like what?
It's so much information. It broke me this movie broke. It also is so
Convoluted that it's hard to enjoy on a like stupid level.
Yeah.
You know, like, because I find myself continuously just trying to be like,
wait, what's actually happening?
We're a group.
And as a result, I'm not enjoying the nonsense.
We're in a room of 200 people and we're just about cracking some elements up.
Right.
Right. But we're also like, we do this a lot.
And I was still confounded by it.
Anyway, so it wasn't as fun as I wanted it to be.
But there's some like true nonsense that's pretty enjoyable, but not worth it.
Yeah, not worth it, not worth it.
Alright, let's talk about this.
So Sam, you have a new show coming out on Comedy Central.
It's called The Detroiters.
Tell us a little bit about it. It coming out on Comedy Central. You do. It's called The Detroiters. Tell us a little bit about it.
It comes out on Comedy Central February 7th.
It's about two ad men who make cheap local commercials
in Detroit.
Stars me and a buddy named Tim Robinson.
And watch it, it'll be on TV.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's great.
Yeah.
Everything I've seen from it so far looks really, really awesome.
June, what do you want to talk about?
Nothing.
I'll just plug two podcasts that I really love, Bitch Sesh and OMFG, also on Earwulf.
Nice.
All right.
Nice, Jason.
I'll just say, you know, it's January now, it's 2017.
We're living in a new world.
But like if you haven't caught up with it, like why not watch the Gilmore Girls revival on Netflix?
Don't worry about it. June and I have just started the Gilmore Girls and we're powering through season one right now.
Oh, it's a good, it's great.
It's really good.
It's only gonna get better,
and then it's gonna get real bad for a minute,
and then it's gonna get real good.
Kinda like that moment when like,
in Friday Night Lights when like,
When they killed, when, yeah.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, when they killed that guy.
Yeah, I was like, wait a second.
And then everybody was like,
JK, JK, that didn't happen.
Sorry, sorry, football, football, football, football.
Well, just that. Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Can't Lose Sorry, sorry, football, football, football, football. Well, just- Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
Except we murdered someone, right?
Are we murderers?
And the tornado wifed it all away.
She's having sex with a teacher, not cool.
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because we have all sorts of cool mailing lists. A big thank you to everybody who makes this show possible. Merce
Zaitse who helps us put this live show together. Everybody at Earwolf. Avril Halle for cutting
together these amazing clips, watching a Highlander 2 documentary. Not only did she sit through
Highlander 2 The Quickening, she sat through a documentary about Highlander 2 The Quickening. She's that through a documentary about Islander to the Quickening.
So thank you to her.
I thank you to Nate Kiley for doing this amazing research.
And thank you to all these people here at Largo.
We appreciate you.
We thank you.
And we'll see you next time.