How Did This Get Made? - Jack's Back LIVE! w/ Lisa Gilroy

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

Lisa Gilroy (The Studio, Twisted Metal) joins Paul and Jason to break down the 1988 James Spader thriller Jack's Back—a movie that surprisingly is not about Jack the Ripper's return. They discuss how to tell if twins have the same fingerprints, Rick's job at the Second Sole shoe store, how awful all the cops are, if Jack killed Spader Prime in self-dense, and so much more. Plus, Paul spots a My Buddy doll which leads to Lisa recalling her own unique childhood doll experience. And the one and only June Diane Raphael pops in with her best guess as to what this movie is about. • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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There's just a bunch of movies Why they're making the grade Here's a real question for you, how did this get paid? Hello, people of us, and hello people of Los Angeles. We are live at Largo for a very special How Did This Get Made? It's Paul, it's Jason, and our very special guest tonight, talking about a movie that came out in 1988 called Jack's Back. and by the title

you would think this is a movie that has to do with Jack the Ripper or Jack the Ripper coming back or time travel or just a bunch of people getting murdered no

none of that it's about a brother who has like a time life book connection to his other brother and thinks something is up. IMDB says a serial killer in Los Angeles celebrates Jack the Ripper's 100th birthday

by committing similar murders. Yeah, I guess. That's like the season. That's like the Rosencrantz and Gildenstern version of this movie. It's happening in a different part of it. The tagline of this movie, 100 years ago

in the city of London, in the east end slum of Whitechapel, a man shocked the world by murdering, raping, and mutilating five women. He was never caught. That's the tagline of this movie. This movie that takes place in a time in L.A.

where La Bamba is playing at the movie theater. I know that because they drive by it. That line was all about Whitechapel. Yeah, he was never caught, and we're not going to get any further into that mystery in this film. at all. But man, oh man, we do get double spader.

To break it down for you tonight, we are going to have some great guests. And our first, not even guest, but co-host, is Jason Manzoukis. What's up, jerks? Let's go. Let's go, Largo. Okay.

Okay. Well, okay, we got to talk about spader all night. This one, wow, wow, front to back, top to bottom. T to B. Vives, baby. I was on board for whatever. We don't have spader anymore. We don't have spaders.

I mean, we've got literal spader, but we don't have anybody that's doing whatever this is. It's, this is a tone poem, it's weird. It is, yes. What a mistake that he never worked with Terrence Malick. Wouldn't that have been fascinating? I mean, I don't know if Terrence Malik could handle it. Here's what I will say, that this movie was directed and written by Rowdy Harrington,

who went on after this movie to direct Roadhouse. Yes. The producer, Joel Silver, Rowdy. Routy, yeah, Rowdy, saw this and was like, I got the guy. I got the guy, which is odd because, I couldn't make heads or tails out of it, and I loved it.

Yes. What a magic trick. What a magic trick this movie pulled off, a movie in which every single character appeared to be guilty of something. Everybody is like, wait a minute. Everybody acted like they were the killer. It is a movie that's so confused in so many ways.

We're going to break it all down. But tonight, sitting in the gym, chair. We have a very special guest. You know her from shows like jury duty, interior Chinatown. The studio. The studio. She just won on Dropouts, Game Changer, and hosted after midnight. Please welcome Lisa Gilroy. Yes. Yes. Welcome. Welcome, Lisa. I don't need a big job.

to hang me, I can hang myself. Oh, my God. You know, this is your first time here on the show and we give you Jack's Back. What's your, like, before you watch it, do you have any... I thought it was going to be a Jack Black movie. I would like Jack Black to remake it.

It would be great. I mean, I was really interested in this because this is a movie that, growing up, I remember seeing this cover box. I remember seeing this, like, I've seen this, and I never, never, never took it out, but I thought from the cover, it was like, I did think it was a Jack the Ripper thing.

I just thought, like, well, James Spader is Jack the Ripper? Okay, I'm in. And it really wants you to believe that. Yeah. For like a second. Yeah. Because this movie isn't really even about those murders. Not at all.

It's not even about the murders from a hundred years ago. Yeah. It's not even about, exactly. It's not even about Sydney's murders. Spoiler alert. The boss, Sydney. Yep, the big twist at the end. Now, when you Google this movie,

people are like, and the twist will blow your mind. You know why it won't? Like, he's the only person left at a certain point. And he's also the only person that would ever sing, Start Spreading the News. Or the other old man's song.

But, like, he, I don't see, James, James Peter can't even speak above a whisper. You think he's going to sing like that in the shower? It was never him. I thought it would be, like, his flip personality had a great, like, Frank Sinatra voice. Can I say something?

Yes. And I mean this with all, with all sincerity. I did not realize until, like, because I wrote it down, I think minute 46 that he was now playing his twin brother. Okay. I, I, I, I, I had a tremendous amount of problems. Understanding double spader. It took me a minute to be like, Doc Spader wears a baseball hat.

Bad Boy Spader wears a sleeveless v-neck t-shirt. And I believe in earring. I almost got caught in the switch as well because I was like, oh, he just dreamt that he tried to stop the murder and was killed. And then I was like, then went on. Why did you think that?

Because the murder happened right outside his bedroom window? Yes. So we're to believe, we're to believe that James Spader, the bad boy, has moved back to Los Angeles, having not talked to his brother for two years and moves across the park for where his brother works?

Well, was it even where his brother... Wasn't it like a gym? Because they feel like he got killed in an auditorium. Wait, James Spader? Yeah, baseball cap. No, he got killed at the clinic. The clinic, which was also a church. You guys are so fucking stupid.

There is a lot of... Like, I am also confused. This movie, first of all, confused. One of the nurses at one point says, we're so busy, I can't right now. They are dead. There's not a single person there.

And it's the same six people who are in the bar later who are just like... This is what was confusing me for a long time. I was like, is he a cop or is he a doctor? Wait, Spader Prime? Spader Prime, because this... Spader Prime, this is his doctor's office. I've never seen doctors have their own desks set up

like a police precinct. Yes, and this office place has a bullpen. Yes. Where all of the doctors sit and it's in like a craftsman house in Eagle Rock. I don't know what's going on at all in this movie, but I love it. I want to live in this movie.

Her glasses are everything. This opening scene got me confused because I'm like, he is a doctor, I believe, but he's being chewed out like he's in a police, Yes, movie. And this is the scene here just to get a taste of it. Sit down.

Sit down, Gradgett, you won't be getting paid on Christmas. By the way, was this shot during a nuclear apocalypse? The orange hue burning through the city's on fire. Like, is he under, like, a fried chicken place sign?

That would be amazing if you looked out the window and it's just Arby's. I feel like Tony Scott saw this It was like, hang on, I can do this I've got a lot of goddamn nerve You know that Can you pause already? Here's the thing

Here's the thing This movie's pace is I don't even know how to describe it Other than lugubrious And Spader is setting the pace It's as if the movie happens in real time and that real time is slow

baby I wrote down this movie took a valium like whatever whatever it's like we're just like hey no rush which is why when they're driving around L.A. in that vintage BMW I'm like fuck this feels great

so here's the police at this point again I am not quite sure who this is I know he's a doctor but I'm a man who thinks he's in a Christmas carol He's been given makeup to make his eyes like black underneath And he's so committed with doing every acting like Well, I'm mad at you

Well, I guess he was telegraphing he's the bad guy And it did a good job, I didn't get it Just because of people out there call you a doctor Doesn't make you one You're still in medical school And you're working here under my supervision and approval One more stunt like you pulled today And I'll have your ass bounce out of here so fast

It'll make your head swim Do you understand me? By the way, he's chewing him out for, there's a woman bleeding in the lobby. He goes and, like, puts a band-aid on her face. And he's late for work because he's promoting, bringing health care to, like, unhoused people, right? It's even dumber than that. Like, he's participating in something. He seems to be going on the news to spread the word that there are homeless people.

Oh, okay. Like, he's like, and you'll never believe it. Some of these people don't have houses. And the news person's like, what? And he's like, yeah. And they're all different communities. That's the other thing, too. They're all different communities.

It looks like about a 17 by 5 foot area. And then when it airs on TV and he tells people there are homeless people in Los Angeles, he gets an applause break from the fellow doctors. Like, oh, finally. Oh, yeah. Well, like Spader Prime is, I think part of what's hard about it is even this version of Spader, the doctor,

the hero, the... Chicago Cubs fan, who is an L.A. native. Inexplicable. Like, why doesn't he wear a fucking Dodgers at? It's so easy. Oh, yeah. I'm assuming... He's not from Chicago. Spader? I don't know, but he's...

Clearly that he is, like, they say, I grew up just a little... He says these words. What a fucking Dodgers out. And his twin brother is in all of L.A.'s most deadly gangs. Oh, yeah. But this Spader, what's so crazy is like, even in these scenes,

I don't trust this guy. And he's the good guy. He's the good one who gets killed, and I'm like, I don't know. Spader makes me feel like this guy's a creep. He's making you feel something, right? Oh, yeah, always. Always. And that was my question for you, a younger person.

What is your relationship to James Spader? Because, boy, is he a bedrock element of my teenage years. And just the audience says, you are a tween, right? Yes. I'm so, so I kind of grew up on like Paw Patrol and Peppa and stuff like that.

Sure. I would love it if Spader was on Paw Patrol. But I remember my dad showing me Spader on the office. Oh. I'm kidding. I saw Spader on the office. As Robert California.

It sounded real enough. It sounded real. I was like, oh, okay. I really, you guys felt fearful. I could feel it. Remember when he was Robert California? Oh, yeah. Right, right.

So that's where. where I know him from. So I was like, oh, now he's Rippert, California. He's got, he, he, to me, is, like, 80s youth actor. Like, I mean, there's... How old is he? I mean, he's got to be 26. How old is he?

I would even say younger than... Well, it's crazy how soft his lips look. Oh, he is... He is the ultimate bad boy, pretty boy of the 80s. And he talks so quiet. Yes. That's what I'm saying. We don't do this anymore.

But that's what I kind of felt like. I know you were saying it felt that the movie felt lugubrious. This, this, I mean, again, this movie participates in one of my favorite 80s tropes, which is psychiatrists. You can't trust them. Mental health professionals, probably quacks. And then he's got, he lives with his mother, and he's like, I'll shoot you, motherfucker.

I'm like, what are we doing? I mean, there are some funny moments at this movie. In the very beginning, the cops are talking about this killer, the Jack the Ripper killer, and he goes, we must stop him. Yeah, no shit. Like, what is the other option? It's like, it was like, but it was said like, huh, five people did. They are...

We got to stop this guy. The police... Yeah. The police are the least relevant characters in a movie that is ostensible. about a serial killer and the police that are after him. It is so odd because they also are so cocky, the police. Like, when they catch Spader Prime and they think he's the murder, like, we did what Scotland Yard could never do.

It's like, Mother, this is a very different time. Jack the Ripper happened a hundred years ago, and they have no technology. You're in modern-day Los Angeles, and you just caught a guy, and you did no investigation. It's a whole Karen Reed operation all over again. Yeah, so these cops are cocky.

Even when the two basketball playing, like, other doctors coming, they were like, he was with us the entire time playing basketball. He's like, really? All the time? It's like, well, yeah, we were in San Diego. We saw him a lot.

They're like, hmm, okay, thanks, fellas. Yeah, no receipts, nothing. They did no evidence. Yeah, no evidence. Two guys, we got it. Thanks for coming in, Lots of boy power in this movie. The only girl we got was Hermione Granger.

When she put on those glasses, you knew she was serious. Oh, yeah. And when she used the time turner, I was like, she's going to help this kid not be abused. Yeah. And then when she was out and about with both the Spader Twins, she was like, I'm going to bed before either of you can think of something to get us killed or worse, expelled. When she called Spader horrid, absolutely horrid.

And then when she said, you've got something on your nose, just that. I love when she is... You say one, Paul. All right. Birdie's bots. Sorry, birdie's bots. Okay, oh boy. Spader is giving me...

Spader is giving me grown-up Draco-Malfoy vibes. I read these books. I wasn't, like, into them that much. I always liked to watch all the movies. I was a fine fan. I get the jokes. I'm not going to be quoting any of that shit. We get it.

You don't love the books. You love her politics. Don't like it. Come talk to me and my Tesla. Now, let me tell you. I'll tell you, no. For me, I always like, I like the Harry Potter with Johnny Depp.

That's where the series took off. How did this can be? I am also like kind of blown away by the way there's a moment where they say like what do we know about this guy? He kills women he fucks him but he wears a condom and every guy and every cop is like ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Huge laugh. Biggest laugh of the movie that was crazy they go we know our boy wears protection everyone laughs like what an idiot yeah they're like hey hey if you're gonna kill the girl anyways it doesn't matter if you get a pregnant I know if it was me I'd be enjoying the ride Now here's what I want to reveal to you

That a couple things here That Jack the Ripper never raped Jack de Ripper Here's the thing The movie's set in London, Paul Harry Jack the Ripper Yeah there you go Jack the Ripper

Never raped his victims Oh okay What, what, okay, are you like a Jack the Ripper Truther? No, I'm finding, I have a lot of movie mistakes. I also know who actually did it. I actually know who did it. He was actually a really good boyfriend. You always say he was misunderstood.

He was. He was. But no, but like they make such a big deal out of it, and it's like, it's, he's doing it exactly the same way. But a cursory, Google, I know they don't have Google back then, but a book opening would show that that was not part. But they at least have Alta Vista. or webcrawler. Ask Jeeves, did Jack the Ripper raped some ladies?

No, sir. You don't have to ask in a British accent. Really? I don't think that's how Asked Jeeves, Jack. I thought he respected you more of you asked. How do you think you'd know that, Paul? It was so long ago. Do you think they even checked for that kind of stuff?

Well, if you'd think of the whole movie's based on Jack the Ripper, they would be like, it's identical. It's identical. He does everything identical. It's like, well, that's an addition that you don't even need to make. It plays no part in the story. I have to tell you something. Yeah.

I don't think you should say that anymore. And I don't think you should go to a party and be like, fun fact, Jack the Ripper never raped anyone. Okay. Because I want to say, I want to say. Let me tell you. Stop putting that into games of celebrity. Yeah, like, it's just like, it's not.

He didn't rape anybody. He was a smart guy. Jack the Ripper. Yeah, he was a good boyfriend. Yeah, yeah. Because, like, okay, I did a show at Dynasty last week, and I was, like, asking them. Listen, you know, we took a stand-up class together.

You're not promo shows you've already done. Hey, check it out last week. I was phenomenal. Is it still live streaming? But to give you a taste of how bad I still am at stand-up, I was asking at one point, I was soliciting fun facts from the audience because I just genuinely wanted to learn a new fact.

And someone in the audience was like, I have a fun fact. Actually, Robin Williams wasn't like that depressed before he killed himself. Oh. And I'm just saying that's the same flavor of what you're doing over there. It's a warning, because we're friends. No, I appreciate it.

I just want to get the truth out there about Jack. I will say that I've never been more creeped out by a box of condoms in a movie. When the killer just, like, places a box of condoms out. Like, he doesn't even break the box. It's just like, well, I'll get into this later on. It'll creep me out. Oh, I didn't notice that.

I thought it was camera film, what he was putting out. It was a... But I think you can use both for both. Yeah. Especially because all of his... He's using a Polaroid. So you can use the rapper of the Polaroid film,

that heavy Mylar wrapper or whatever it is. And the pictures you get are beautiful. You will get lead poisoning and you dick, though. But it comes out very Pollock-esque. But don't shake it. When you were talking about Hermione,

the way they introduced that character. You know, she's like the girl that everyone's flirting with in the office and the creepy guy that we think is Jack the Ripper for most of the movie, the big tall guy who is the killer of Prime Spader. He's like, you get that book that I gave you? And she's like, oh, thank you so much for that book. It was great. He's like, if you like it, I'll get you another. Yeah. It was such, it was so non-specific. It was like, it wasn't like, just books. Like, what could the, I'll just, I will buy you another book. If you like books, I will buy you a book.

The reveal of this guy is that he's just low-key an amateur abortionist. That's his deal? Like, is he like a janitor at the hospital? Like, what's his thing? I think... Other than, hey, knock, knock,

do you want an abortion? I believe that he is the anachin to the chief's emperor Palpatine. Like, because at one point, remember when he's cleaning out his locker's like, hello, what are you doing? Good job, good job. I'm like, what is he doing there? Why is he hiding in a locker room?

What's going on? I loved their dynamic and I was like, oh, I wish I'd gotten more of this. Yeah. You know, because boy, was that creep city. But I think they were like, you've seen him kill Spader Prime, so you think he's the bad guy. Well, also, so weird to be like, okay, first of all, his name is Jack. So I think

they're trying to be like, that could be the Ripper. Oh, right, yeah. And but then also like, I don't know, I imagine Jack the Ripper is like Do you know that Jack DeRipper never raped anybody? I was going to say, I imagine Jack the River being, I don't know, you know, an unassuming bald man of a regular height. Just like, you know, into stuff, wife was out of town, no big deal. Drives the Tesla.

Exactly. Says stuff like if you want to talk about it. Just come sit in my Tesla with me. But no, I just thought it was like weird casting choice. That they cast this like seven foot tall half man half foosball table to like... He is so big. He's too big. I just felt like immediately.

It was like, it can't be him. He's like jock jamms 3,000. Yeah. Oh, I agree. He's heads of football and he speaks in sports. No, he's too big. He's too bad. His presence on screen is like forced perspective.

Yes. It forces him to seem as though he's Gandalf and everybody else is a hobbit. Yeah. And he is, now I do want to break this down. What did he do? Because he went to that woman's apartment to give her a free. Not free abortion. Oh, right, yes, right. He was going to get some snacks out of it.

But no, he also is doing it in her apartment, which seemed weird and unsanitary. But he's going to give her an abortion. But then she's murdered. No? Yes. Yes. And then that one lone no, you were really on an island there. No.

No. No. She's alive. She's alive in the movie. She lives. She survives. Fake news. Everybody lives in the movie.

There was no Jack the Ripper. I know what a dead girl looks like and that isn't it. She's actually, she's an immortal character. She can't be killed. So am I... He does not kill her. Right, but what happened? Like, I guess what I'm trying to do is, what happened?

Did he go there, give an abortion, left, and no. Let me at least finish, and you can tell me I'm wrong. It's Tim. It's Tim. Oh, it's Tim. Okay, Tim. You're allowed to talk. Did he give her an abortion?

And then she's like, you're all done. And then he let the door open for the... No, he says he stepped out for something. And when he came back, she was Deadsville. Tim? He shows up and says, I can give you the abortion for $200. She says, why are we going to do it here? He's like, yeah, of course.

So he gives her the abortion. And then he leaves to go to the drugstore to get what he calls a prescription. I don't know who prescribed it. But when he comes back, she's dead. Yeah. Okay, that's what I was basically saying up here, and you're like, no, no. That was what I was saying. He did the abortion left and then someone killed her.

And he was like, yeah. So, so, you know, I guess is the idea that Sydney is following him around? Here's Sidney's whole deal. It's like, he's like, let me kill every woman I've ever met through the clinic where I work. Yeah. Like, that's like me killing every man I've ever done improv with. And also. Like, how long do you think the police would take to be like, it's the zip, zabsab,

stop murderer? The police, the police in this movie are embarrassing. BAS. Yes. They are given the slip by everybody. They're terrible. Yeah, they're like adults in a kids' movie where they're like, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Spader is kind of giving me

McCauley Culk at Home Alone vibes. And Sidney is kind of like the... Yes, and man, when Spader's brother dies, when Spader Prime dies, and Bad Boy Spader wakes up like in tidy, Whitey's in bed, that's where I got confused. And I was like, oh, it was all a dream.

And then I was like, hang on. I don't think it was all a dream. I rewound it. But it really was like, boy, did we drill down on him in that bed in those briefs. I was like, give me, now we're in, now we're just doing like vintage spader. And then put him in a convertible, let him drive around L.A. I was like, I'll watch this. To the tune of like some song by a guy named Paul Sacks.

Okay. I have some info about this. If you don't play the song, this song. The songs from this movie, this is better than drive. This movie is better than drive. All right. So I want to do something.

This might upset you, Jason. But what happened here in this movie was the director, Rowdy, wanted to get a song by Peter Gabriel. Okay. And Peter Gabriel said, no. So he found another artist. And he's like, can you duplicate

the Peter Gabriel song as close as you can without getting sued. So now we'll put them both together and you will see a little mash-up. When all this comes, Red rain is falling out.

Red rain. Love it. That was the... Love it. I'll shout out. The Peter Gabriel song is Red Rain and Stuart Copeland from the police plays only high hats

on that. song and it's incredible I love the music I love the way that this movie is but I want to go back to the Emperor Palpatine Anakin Skywalker relationship just for a second because I'm not so familiar so is this one Natalie Portman is two girls now she also died in childbirth

so maybe wow you think you think Jack the Ripper got Amidawa 100 years ago in a galaxy far, far away on the pre-anniversary. This is the only clue that we have that these two are working together.

Oh, Creep. What are you doing here? Cindy. You scared me. I forgot some of my stuff, and I needed it. Well, you're not supposed to be in here after hours, especially after what's already happened. I understand. I was just leaving. Jack?

Sir? I've been meaning to tell you, you do good work. Unlimited power. Thank you, sir. Go have some fun. Yes, sir. Both of these people are murderers. We see that? I thought that was a coded...

I thought that was a coded scene like, we've been working together and you've been... No? No, I don't think it is. Tim? No. I don't think it is, but I think the movie... I think it's absolutely insane

that they are both murderers and are just don't know it and are just, like, hanging out in the same space. Wait, Jackson murderer, too? Well, he hanged Spader. He killed Spader Prime. Well, because he thought that Spader Prime was going to say that he was the murderer.

That's self-defense. What? That was self-defense. I mean, this is a take that only works from the front seat of a Tesla. He was like... What are you talking about? He was like, I didn't kill her, I didn't kill her. And then Spadee, he's like, oh, this guy's gonna fuck up everything.

I'm studying to be a doctor. This guy's gonna, I'm gonna be fucked. He's like, I gotta kill this guy. I gotta track him down and kill him multiple ways. This is the wildest of takes. I just think that it was a one-time thing. That's enough. It's enough that he killed one spader.

Never mind that he goes after the other one. Because they won't leave him alone. He's like, I didn't do anything. I'm a good doctor. The guy likes my work. I'm just trying to succeed. I don't even know. I bought a girl a book.

I didn't rape anybody. I'm giving out $200 portions in the house. Yeah, but Paul, why is that guy have a pre-made noose ready at the office? That's, yeah. I always suggest to everyone carry that, especially if you live in L.A. Okay, he killed him in the church doctor's office, right?

Okay, so they were. fighting, they're grappling over the phone, he called the police, he said, hello, I think I know who it was, hang up, and then he drags him to the other side of the church where a noose is coiled up in wait. Well, that was after Easter services. Wait, do you think they hung Christ?

I grew up, I grew up in... What church did you go to? Greek Orthodox for me. Wait a minute. A lot of people say they put on the cross. No, how do They get him up there. They got to get him up there.

And then they throw plates at his feet. That actually makes perfect sense. The cross should just be for Christ. It's his symbol. It's like he was killed. And then the church is asked to follow and to die for Christ. That's something we got to do ourselves. That's noose.

That's not for us. 100%. We should start wearing little noose around our necks. You go out with that theory. I go out with my Jack the Ripper series. We're going to make a lot of friends. What now? Spader 2 moves to L.A.

But seemingly it's packed, like Indiana Jones packs the Raiders of the Lost Ark. Like, why is he packing a wooden... A wooden shipping crate. He works at Foot Locker. What was that about? He works at Foot Locker? He's working at Foot Locker, or the equivalent thereof. Motherfucker has, like, genuine old-school wooden crates in his apartment with a gun inside.

It's like the kind of a crate that you order, like, an exotic monkey in. Yes. Yes. Or I guess a non-exotic monkey could come in it as well. No, I meant like a little sexy one that strips. Oh, okay. But what was he wearing before he strips? Like an astronaut costume? Depends what the theme is.

All right, I like that. I mean, the... Do you have the hypnosis scene? Ah, yes, of course I do. Also, how come... Do we any more describe things as stiff as a board? like is a board a measure of stiffness anymore do we still talk in bored

what are you literally talking about yes see no see a board there's nothing stiffer we still have those we do yes I don't I don't hear people talking about the stiffness of things as it relates to boards have you ever heard people go stiff as a board light as a feather I don't think that this change you don't think so you think kids now are still saying stiff as a board I don't think it's coming up that much

Hey lady Don't get testy with me I hear a lot of kids say Stiff is an android Yes But this is This is 1988 Here's the hypnotist scene

With Robert Piccardo Yeah we love Robert Piccardo All right Your left arm is as stiff as a board Oh Yes Jason's fuming That happened quick

I mean Absurd. Say one thing you think that's stiff-like. A bored. You may relax your arm now and take it back in your lap. Now I'm going to lead you back to the clinic. It's dark. It's effective.

What is it, Richard? He's so good. Richard? Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. It's all right, Richard, it's all right.

The only other, like, and I mean this when I say, Like, I do think he is one of the great actors of this generation. And one of the only people who, as well as having some of the most unreal good looks, is willing to do Nick Cage-level nonsense at all time. Well, I was also thinking, I was like, what a fucking, what an incredible guy. In a different world, too. He could have had a Christopher walking career, too, because he's doing, like, there's an intensity there that's kind of just amazing. But I also don't understand this from a plot.

point of view. He is tied to his twin. I get that. I get that idea. But when he's hypnotized, he then transfers into the twin's body? Okay, I have to help you guys because you're confused. So everybody seems to be having a problem with the twin of it all. So I was raised on like

Olson and Olson Detective Agency. Got it. Love it. And like Lindsay Lohan playing two girls and the Olson girls going to camp and all that stuff. So usually what happens is one girl's British. Wait, are these movies still available? Not for you, pervert. Okay.

One girl's British and she's rich and the other girl wears a backwards hat. Like stuff like that. It's simply easy to understand. And of course, all twins are connected and yes, if you hypnotize them, they will see the murder of the other twin as evidence by both Olsons in It Takes 2.

That was a shocking scene and that's why it got an NC17 on the original cut. Here's something you might want to know too. identical twins don't have identical fingerprints. Someone's never been fingered by a twins. Because let me tell you, you can feel it. I thought I was. I thought I was.

And then I fingerprinted them afterwards. Somewhere someone is like, hang on. I would love that twin prank. Just one person pretending to be twins instead of two people pretending to be one. Oh, it must have been. my twin. Oh, that's such a good idea.

I was like, is it too late for me to start that? So the whole movie is a cat and mouse between Jack the Ripper. No, it's not Jack. Not Jack, right? It's Jack, the guy that we think is Jack the Ripper. No. Tim! But, like, I mean, like, that's what we're like, but we're chasing this thing

the entire time and we get to see these great James Spader fight scenes where he punches like a hail Hitler. He punches up. I've never seen a... He flips the 260-pound man over his back and then ends it by double nut-kicking him.

In order to hobble the guy, he just kicks him hard in the nuts twice. Spader is never on screen for any action. No strikes, no nothing. They have scenes where his legs just come into frame. Legs and hits strikes come in. to frame that Spader is not doing. Spader is, I mean, what I really love this movie

is when he is just acting in the environment. Like when he goes into his brother's house and he looks at the bookshelf and he's looking at the books and they're just medical books. And you think, oh, is this important? No, they're just medical books. Like, there's nothing telling about that.

Yeah, he's a medical student and those are the books. Like there's, you know, but it's like, But it's so compelling. Even in those boring nothing scenes, I'm still like, I'll watch this fucker do whatever he wants. When he, like, picks up a picture that I think is of himself and then looks at himself in the mirror. I've aged.

It's like, yes, you're a child there. Can we talk about this? Was that picture of him marrying the sex worker who got killed? He took her to prom? What? Wait, what? I did not get that. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

I was looking at me. Wait, there's even more connection? So, so, so, so, so, okay, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, whoa, wait. So Spader knew Denise. Wait, so. What? I did not put that together.

He doesn't even know she's dead. That's, wait, which Spader is that? Prime. Oh, oh, okay. All right, assholes. Okay, so Spader. Forgive me, I thought it was the other, I thought it was second Spader. So, wait, so this is why.

Okay, okay, okay, okay, I'm figuring it out, I'm figuring out. This audience is getting on my nerves. Wait, wait, wait, wait, I have it. I had it for a second. I understood the movie for one moment. He's, Prime Spader, he's a doctor, he's in the office. He goes, he goes, I'd like to take a close look at that pregnant prostitute. Like he's interested, and we go, oh, that's a big.

Wait, shh, just, and we're like, oh, it's because he's going to kill her tonight on the night where he's supposed to kill a pregnant sex worker. But instead, the twist is, he's like, I took her to prom and I'd love to say hello again. So I'm going to go find her personal medical file and pay her a visit at her home tonight. Yes. I think that's, I think that's now what's going on.

Wait, wait, wait, no wait. This is the night he's picked to go visit Daryl Hannah in her home to say, remember me, we went to prom together. But he runs into a co-worker who was just there giving an abortion and another coworker who was just on the way. out from killing her. But he's not a killer

though. He's not a killer at all. No, he just wanted to say hi. Going to reconnect. Oh, weird. Weird way to reconnect. Because what's so weird about it is this, because she's a foot in front of his death.

Yeah, why doesn't she say like, oh, they're like, they're remembering prom right here. You stay out of the streets, you understand. You tell that to my pimp. Oh, boy. I care about your unborn child. He's like, prom. I know her from prom.

In my office. Just wait. He's like, wait, didn't we go to prom together? He's like, he's like, thank you, by the way, for letting me wear a blazer as my doctor's jacket. Oh, this is so insane. It is so crazy. The movie that is, again, set in Los Angeles, the city where we now are, posits a world in which.

Everybody lives in a three-block radius of each other. By the way... Because once again, Second Spader moves across the park from this location. Hermione lived half a block away from my old house, and I wanted to drive by today. At the Shakespeare Bridge. Yes, it was so exciting. So great.

Loved it. Loved scene. I loved the driving around Los Angeles of this movie. I mean, it's basically an Echo Park movie, right? I mean, that's... There was a bunch of stuff. There was also Hollywood. and Hollywood and Vine there, that section

that's the movie theaters, Hollywood and Vine there kind of. No, no, no, not Vine. Where the Cubs used to play. Where the Cubs used to play. Before they moved to Chicago. Right. Now, does he know that in that

like triple X theater they, this guy just sells guns? How does he know that? Yeah. Because he used to be in the games. Because he used to be a bad boy, I guess, yeah. So it's like, since he's left and come back, he's like, yeah, well, you can always buy a gun off of that guy. Why?

Why, here's my question. Wouldn't it make more sense if there was good spader and bad spader? Why isn't bad spader just a bad guy? Why does he work at Foot Locker? And it's not because he's like, later in the thing, he's like, hmm, look at these treads. That's what I thought was going to happen. I think our killer is wearing sockanies.

Where did my brother see sockenies while he was getting strangled? I think they were setting this up to be a Nickelodeon movie and then something went badly wrong because they were going to be like, it's funny, there's a doctor brother and a shoe brother. And wouldn't it be funny if they got hypnotized and had to swap lives? The street life of Spader and Spader and Spader.

And then the shoe brother's like, I'm doing surgery, I don't know what to do this. And then the doctor brother's in the shoe store and he's like, well, I can sell you shoes. It's actually easy. I think you're right because even the opening title sequence Like the Jack's back is written in a fun font. Yeah.

It's not written in like Jack's back. It's like, Jack's back. It's also, you also understand, like, what is Jack's back? There's, like, there's a character named Jack. They talk about Jack the Ripper, obviously Jack the Ripper. But also Second Spader is back in town. He, there's too much, there's too many competing elements that are the same bit or game. You know what else it could be?

Remember the movie Jack? Yeah, with Robin Williams. So that's a little boy who's in a big man's body. Can I tell you something about Rob Williams? Just something fun. Don't give him an applause break for that. Do you have the scene where Spader's in his brother's apartment? I do.

I want to show you one thing before. Did you guys notice this? The My Buddy doll. Oh, wow. There's a My Buddy doll in the cop office. And it's like, what is that? to tell, is it a my buddy? Yes, it is. The striped shirt.

Do you want to tell Lisa what a my buddy is in your relationship to it? I... This is something you fucked when you're a kid. Oddly, more disturbing. It fucked you? Yep. My buddy, my buddy.

I asked, my buddy and me, goes wherever I go, he goes to my... Is that why 50 Cent made a song like that? It's a joke? Because you know the 50 cent song It's like, my buddy, my buddy, wherever I go, he goes, it's about a gun.

Oh, wow, yeah, I guess so, yeah. So isn't it so crazy the difference between like a cool girl and like guys who are not cool? You didn't even know my buddy. That's all I like. I carry my doll around. Well, then I was going to tell you I beg my parents for my buddy

because I had no friends on my block or anybody to hang out with and I just wanted to have a buddy. Now don't you feel stupid? I feel bad. And Paul, I want to tell you something, I had a Susie stretch. Did you guys have this,

or was it just like a bad Canada toy? Whoa, I want to know. Is it like a stretch armstrong type of the, like you could pull the... She was a doll, but she had like accordion arms. So like when she was in a resting place, she was like this. A resting place?

Yeah. Wait, did she come with a coffin? Yeah. Bring me to my resting place. Kate, she, you can like... Each doll comes to the wooden coffin and shovel. Stiff as a board in a resting place. A chisel and a block of granite.

Make her headstone. That would have been more fun than what she was. Oh my God. Her shoes were like secretly slippers in. So she's this big. She's like a baby basically, right? And so I could wear her shoes like feet like shoes. I could slip my feet into her feet.

And I could put my hands into her hands. and then I'd stretch her up big like this and she'd be the same size as me but we'd be face to face fucking walking around the house together this is terrifying this is honest to God what are you talking about

Wait is that how it's supposed to be played with? Susie Stretch yeah Is that how it's supposed to be played with her that's just what you were doing I don't I didn't know how else to play with her and I can still remember her like hard plastic head Oh whoa I don't like it I don't want it I don't oh it's on it

Okay, it's on Etsy. There she is. How about YouTube for a commercial? Yeah, commercial. Right there. Right there. It's a commercial right there, Paul. Yes, yes.

All of our dreams have come true. Full screen. Sleep in your tip toes, hands around your waist goes. Doody stretch stretches as she follows along. Whoa. I watch your stretch from your feet. Never misses a meet. Never misses a beat.

With her arms round your waist and her toes to your feet. Do these dread stretches and she's cussibly sweet. Really stretches. Then when nighttime falls and your dancing is complete. Good night. She's good. Do she's dread. What?

New from Irwin. What? Holy shit. Holy shit. I mean, what's just, and I don't know if you remember this, but what's just abundantly clear is it just looks like she's going down on every little girl. It just looks like you fastened her head to your crotch. The fat girl was too tall.

I was the same size as her. That is more scary than anything that we saw in this movie. I would believe Susie Stretch is Jack the Ripper more than another girl has been stretched in Los Angeles Wow

Wow Lieutenant we found her She was stretched Stretch to death Let's go out to the crowd And talk to you all What do you got? All right

Michael here recommended this movie He's in the audience tonight If you have a question Michael I'll come to you obviously as well But all right Tim I'm going back to you All right what do you got

So with the killer, it's Jack's back. He's copycatting Jack the Ripper. They're all about, it's got to be tonight, it's got to be in her house, it's got to be a pregnant woman, that's the final murder. He goes to the house, he murders her like his opus is complete. The headline came true. He's got all the glory he needs. Why does he go kill Hermione? Yeah.

Like, why does he want to kill the female doctor that Spader is running around within her BMW? you like why why because he's just i think creeping on her like that's who's watching her through the window or was she onto him or something oh i don't know i don't know i don't think so also when he killed the woman that had just gotten the abortion she technically wasn't pregnant anymore i just want to can i just now hang on well that actually what makes sense is mary kelly the Ripper's final victim was not pregnant at the time of the murder. Oh, okay. It's a popular claim, but there's

no historical documents to prove that she was pregnant. Oh, wow. So this movie is... Why do you have so much... So much, frankly, gross information about... It's my hobby. My hobby is Jack. How come all those papers are printed out from your blog?

They're just photocopies of my writings. These are my writings. Yes. Hi, what's your name? What's your question? David my theory is in the scene where he's getting hypnotized the second half of that scene is him experiencing what happened to his brother slipping back into that moment before he's uh what he's being killed that's real but the first portion of that is something that is totally different it's him what unbeknownst to everybody else when he was like running with the latin kings you know when he was younger he came in he came into like the habit of um auto robotic fixiation so So in that first part, he's slipping into that. Wait, what's going on? Let him go up.

Dave. Let him come. So when he's slipping back into that memory, he's like, hold up. This is kind of working for me. So he's in that moment where his brother's getting choked out, and he's like getting off on it. And he's actually, that's his o-face. He's coming as he's getting hypnotized. And then after he comes, he comes back into the scene, and then he experiences the death of his brother.

I think you're 100% right on. Can you come here? What do you guys think? David, please come to every show and tell us which scene contained that actor's O-Face. Our O-Face correspondent, David. Yes, hi, what's your name? What's your question? Corey, I think more attention needs to be paid

on when he grabbed her by the hair at the end and she went flying. Yes. Like, into the pillows, because I rebound that like three times. Like, why? does he have super strength? He is an old man. And I'm saying that as an old man

because I bet if I looked it up the actor playing Sydney is younger than I am currently when shooting this movie would be my guess. Based on that time I looked up Wilford Brimley in a movie we did and he was one year older

than me at the time, which I have not recovered from. I believe Danny Glover is 44. in the first lethal weapon where he's too old for this shit. That's a very disturbing fact. And he also, the age was a different time back then.

All right, Michael, you're over here. Where are you? All right, so Michael's the one who brought it to us. Thank you, Michael, for recommending this movie. I want to make sure that you get a chance to offer up any thoughts. Boo! Thank you, Paul.

I just want to give a shout out to my brother-in-law, Chris, who I watched this movie with, last March I have... Are you guys identical? No. Brother-in-law. Brother-in-law.

Yeah, that's true. Could be pop. But their fingerprints do match. Weird. Don't ask my sister how she figured that out. That's right, Michael. You don't take shit

from these idiots. That's right. They've been acting crazy all night. Real quick. Did you know Notice what the name of the shoe store was, Jason. What was it? Second Soul.

Oh, okay. Because he's the second soul of Prime Spader. Got it. Why? Honestly, this audience sucks. I am going to believe that this movie did not have the budget to do that, and there is a actual clothing, this shoe store called Second Soul because it's like your business shoe and then your casual shoe.

Yeah. All right. We'll look up that at one point. Okay, so real question. When Dark Spader is flashing back during the hypnosis when he zooms up into the hypnotist house. Yes, when he's having his orgasm scene. When Robert Picardo is hanging with his mom in a mansion somewhere,

he looks like, it looks as though Spader has arrived at like a 1950s mansion. Like in the middle of the night. Robert McCartner's wearing like a dress, like a smoking jacket. in her side. I was perplexed. So he flashes back and sees through Prime Spader's eyes the doctor winking at him from behind the curtain while he's being strung up.

So is he seeing it from a third person's perspective? No, that's what his brother saw when he was dying. He's seeing it through his brother's eyes. Okay, thank you. So he's just seeing more of the event now, including the fact that Sidney the creepy doctor was there wearing sockanies, which Spader, bad Spader, is like, fuck, I, shoes

are my superpower. So that means two things. That means two things. One, that Prime Spader took the time to check out the shoes that he was wearing. And that he knew that Sidney was behind the murders all along before he died? Well, that's

the thing. He could have said, I know it's not you. Let me down. So I don't think it was a technical murder. What? Because he knew. and he didn't let on that he knew, like, who, so wait, you want justice for Jack? Yeah.

The Ripper? Jack was forced to kill. Jack was forced to kill. Okay, finally, I'm going to vindicate you a little bit. Jack the Ripper was a bad guy, and Jack was a murderer. Don't point at me. I'm not Jack.

However, I think that you were correct that they were working together in a Palpatine, Anakin, but it was about the abortion. He knew that he was going out and doing the abortions and saying, good work. Oh, no, no, no, no. Come up here and fight me.

Because the guy, the Christmas carol man, who is the bad grumpy man who works at the clinic. The actual Jack the Ripper copykeg killer. Yeah, he said, think of your unborn child. Like, he was like a pro-life. He's too pro-life, I agree. Yeah. And then the other guy, the abortion giver,

was also not a good guy because he was just doing it for money on the side. The only good guy that would give you an abortion that would actually feel good would be Spader. Spader Prime. Spader Prime. I think, I mean, I did kind of want bad Spader to, like, impersonate his brother at some point and try and do doctor stuff. Yeah. That would have been cool. Hi, what's your name?

Dominique. Okay, and what's your question? Well, I think I can put it all together. Wow, I love this. So I think that the psychiatrist actually also hypnotized the main doctor of the clinic. Okay. And he was influencing Jack, the other medical guy. And so they were kind of working together.

Wait, including the hypnotist? You're saying they're all together? It doesn't make any other sense for him to get so mad when he's like, you know who did it. And then he like pulls out the gun and is about to shoot him. I thought that too, because that's when I thought the movie was trying to tell us, and I do think the movie is trying to obfuscate things more. I felt like the moment when Robert Picardo was reaching the gun and saying,

you think you know, is meant to make us feel like, oh, maybe it's him? That's what I thought. So, all right, so what we're saying is Robert Picardo is the main villain. He is hypnotizing people to go out and do his bidding, so they don't even know. That's why the guy's got dark circles under his eyes.

I'm sorry, and he lives with his mother? Dominique, I'm not sure. I don't know if that's it. I mean, if they're all... All the murderers live with their moms is what we heard. Yeah, and he's hypnotized. his mom to keep paying the mortgage and buying him the cereal he likes.

I would love it. I would love it if it's revealed that they are all in... Mom, I said, give me a Sally stretch. Not of my buddy. Yes, okay. Yes, what's your question? So I'm Michael number two. I'm an anesthesiologist, and I just wanted to bring up three things that are accurate in the movie. Short white coats for medical

students. Second, attendings, when you're going through that whole process, you don't work for them. They can't fire you. They kind of own you and you're like, basically like slave labor for them. And if you told one of them to fuck off, they would probably try to murder you in your sleep like Hermione. And lastly, as a Latino man, a Latino mother waking up in her 70s to see if you're okay in the middle of the night, completely accurate, especially in Los Angeles. Wow. Well, now we've really tied it all together. I mean, there's nothing else to say. Wow,

Wow, wow, wow. He's just getting up in the middle of the night to do some hypnotizing. You've got to hypnotize me. What a crazy thing to show up in the middle of it. You just got to hypnotize me. Don't make me think I'm a chicken. Obviously, we have opinions about this movie,

but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. Hi, my name is Stephanie. Some folks are dumb, they don't know we're a lot. Stars they give one or two. Amazon asks, how good was this film? Oh, they say the fans are fools, no. It ain't three, it ain't three, it ain't even number four, four.

It ain't three It ain't three I'll only give it five stars Yes Amazing Great job Wow wow wow While our singers were singing

I was able to do some research And I found out indeed Second Soul is a shoe store that does exist For runners In L.A? It doesn't matter It doesn't make a difference, yeah, but there we go.

But it probably was in the way. Yeah, so there we go. Let me give you this here. The average rating of this movie is 4.6 out of five stars. 76 reviews are five-star reviews. Only 2% are one-star. And this will start off with Gov. Gov writes,

Why do people in the 80s hate curtains? Five stars. It's true. It's true. Very true. Harold wrote, James Spader, as a blonde in this, walked so Carmi from the bear could run.

Five stars. Interesting. They're both kind of jacked little guys. Yeah. And they do kind of both do, just like weird stuff with their tongues sometimes. Okay. Doesn't, like, don't they kind of go like,

sometimes? You got some solid, yes. They both do a lizard. I don't know. I was not. noticing what James Speeder was doing with his tongue. Oh, yeah, okay, very cool, very cool. Maybe I'm only one.

A couple other people noticed it as well. You might want to, like, to start a little club. From a review that it says reviewed in Japan in 2019, James Spader, I am good at acting. I watched it. The story itself was different from my imagination, looking at the jacket. And it was quite interesting.

It may be because I'm dull, but I didn't know the true culprit it until the end, and I was pounding the floor watching it. There's no good things in movies right now. There were no Japanese subtitles or dubbing, but I'm not good at English. I enjoyed it.

It's a movie. I want to watch it. I was glad to watch it. Five stars. Incredible. That made more sense than anything Manzukas has said this entire show. How dare you.

Sorry. How dare you? Because my English isn't so good? No, your English is perfect. Your ideas are stupid and bad. How dare you? Now, I did ask somebody about this film. I told Ms. June, Diane Rayfield, I said,

the movie that we are doing, she said, please forgive. She's wearing a wig. She's in full costume. She's in a period piece show. I gave her the title and the year. And I said, you tell us what it's about. Hi, how did this give me listeners?

And hi, people of Largo. Paul and Jason told me that this movie is called Jack Spack. Jack Spack. And they asked if I could figure out what the movie was about just based on the title alone in the year, which is 1988. Now, of course, initially I thought, oh, it's probably about a dad named Jack who dies early too soon. And every winter comes back as a snowman and the moral being snow dad is better than no dad. But then that sounded too familiar and too reminiscent of another different movie. So I don't think it's that.

I think Jack is Jack of Jack and Jill. And he's a killer doll. he's a killer doll and he's thrown away when his owner sort of like Andy and Toy Story was coming of age he was discarded

rather rudely and unceremoniously and he's back he's back he's never forgotten what's happened and he's ready to seek revenge Jack's back

great incredible I would watch that. Jack's back. I can't believe you got such a hot woman to do this stupid show. Oh, any final thoughts. Do you have any of the other scenes

that have music in them, the saxophone? I might. There was just some next-level 80s saxophone stuff while Spader's like sitting on his porch petting a cat. Oh, yeah. Oh, in between shifts at second soul? I did want to talk about this scene. This is the one scene before we go

that I think is worthy of chatting about. Isn't it a little late? This is an emergency. May we come in? I'm not really dressed. It's okay. We're police officers. Not a lot's changed, L.A. This scene pissed me off, but I also, I'm like at odds with myself

because I also was the same person who was so mad that he jangled the gate when she was about to take her bra off. So I was like, I was looking forward to seeing tits and then later I was like, those cops are so rude. It seems that the cops are into being purrs. Like they are like,

yeah, man, they're creeps. They're trigger-happy creeps. All right, well, we don't have to be that rude about them. I mean, people said a lot of bad things about Jack the Ripper. and two of them we know are not true any final thoughts on the film any final anything

I loved the movie and I love you guys and I'm glad you made me watch it I'm so happy that you're here it's so great I had a blast I you know we've had to watch so so many bad movies that are truly bad and a slog this was a delight not once did I have a note that was like

how was there still 45 minutes left I Moore was like, it's over already? I literally sat down and I was like, I looked for the soundtrack. I sat down, I sat down, I was like, I'll watch 30 minutes, I'll get this out of the way, and then I'll watch some more later. I watched the whole thing.

I didn't move. I didn't move. I was sad. I hadn't seen it when it came out, and I was 16 years old. I'm surprised you like it so much because didn't you keep calling it like Lufglalius? Wait, what?

Luf glanius? Luf glarius. Luf glarius. Lechleineus. Luproopreus. Laborius. Linguibrious? Lugubrious?

Lufgubrius. Lufgublius. Lufurignaignais. Lufuraglius. Lufrelius. Luf granius. Well, that's the shirt. Legu Lus glenis.

It's a picture. It's a picture of Lyside. It just says Luf Gralius, question mark. Lufraneous. Doreg's disease? and that's your or that's as if you're Hermione and that's a spell?

Yes. Loufreyis. That is the shirt. All right. Thank you everybody. Good night. We love you, April. April.

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