How Did This Get Made? - Jason X LIVE! w/ Rob Huebel & Jenny Slate (HDTGM Matinee)

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

HDTGM all-stars Rob Huebel (The Dark Web) and Jenny Slate (Big Mouth) join Paul and Jason to discuss the 2001 sci-fi slasher, Jason X. Recorded live from Largo in Los Angeles, they talk about a future... where hockey has been outlawed, everyone wears velour belly shirts, and robot nipples can't stay in place. Plus, Rob regales us with a tale of a horror prank gone wrong. (Ep. #174 Originally Released 10/27/2017) • L.A. listeners! Register to attend a free special HDTGM show on 10/15 at www.siriusxm.com/podcastsmonth• New live shows 11/7 in NYC & 11/8 in Philly! Go to hdtgm.com for tix, merch, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everybody. Before we start today's podcast, I want to let you in on the little thing here. Before the shows, we normally play the trailer of the movie we're about to talk about. It figures very prominently into today's show, the trailer. So I want to play you the trailer right now so you understand a reoccurring joke that happens throughout this podcast. Enjoy. In the year 2455, on a routine training mission, A team of students is about to discover a life form frozen in time. Wow.
Starting point is 00:00:40 They're on their way back. Prepare for docking and power up the lab. You brought him on board? Everything's under control, man. What the hell is going on? Jason Forge's, that's what's going on. He's an unstoppable killing machine. Oh, guys, it's okay. He just wanted his machete back.
Starting point is 00:00:59 How do we get off the ship? I don't know. Look, we're gonna be all right. What, are you high? Uh-oh. He's here. You have got to get them out of there. Hey, slappy! I think we're finally okay.
Starting point is 00:01:22 What the hell is that? You've got to be kidding me. Oh, wow. It's been modified. Oh, you think? You guys might want to run. Let the body set the throat. Let the body set the food.
Starting point is 00:01:43 I don't think he's out there. I don't think he's out there. I don't think he's out there. Why don't you just stick your head out and have a peek? In space, no one can hear you say, eh? We saw Jason Tenn, so you know what that means. Wow! How this is...
Starting point is 00:02:17 Dreaming! How'd it's... Schwarzenegger Grove, baby in this belly. Rock a rindstone vest while whipping just in the Kelly or maybe see a burlesh show with Nick Crowe and take a boat with speed to hitting cruise control. J-man, Big Paul in the beautiful June. Gonna take you from the goof all the way to the room.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Ran against the street fire that helped to blow off steam. Just a sucker punch the odd life for Timothy Green. Shock needle, the bird demic, how we stand a lot. Call it in the badass and he's on the line. Cranking 88 minutes cause they cool as ice. Cause a bad Jim Barney looking kind and nice. Paul and June getting literal Jason is getting laid. June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid.
Starting point is 00:02:59 They're just a bunch of movies while they're making the grade. Here's a real question for you. How did this get made? Hello people over! And hello people of Largo! live here in Los Angeles at Largo at the Cornette, our L.A. home and we love this place. It's so fantastic if you're
Starting point is 00:03:21 in L.A. Come check out a show here, not just our show, but the many amazing shows that are here. We have an amazing audience, a 10 o'clock audience. I know the people at home, they don't know what that difference is, but you guys bring the heat. You're a little bit more drunk,
Starting point is 00:03:37 we're a little bit more loud. And we appreciate it. We need it because today is our Halloween episode. and what better way to celebrate Halloween than with the death of a franchise. Here to talk to me tonight
Starting point is 00:03:59 about this film is my co-host, Jason Manzukas. Welcome. What's up, Jirks? Welcome, Jason. Thank you, Paul. Jason, a movie of your namesake. Oh, thank God.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Finally, finally. All of the requests for this movie franchise to be talked about so that my name can be in it have been answered, and here we are. Jason X. Now, the movie about Jason 4E's and Malcolm X combined into one character. So many.
Starting point is 00:04:46 So many people had the Jason X hat. Yeah. So many people. Jason, where do you fall in the Friday the 13th? When I tell you zero? Yeah. A lot of my notes are reminders to ask you guys or the nerds.
Starting point is 00:05:08 What the myth? It took me until the very end of the movie to be like, oh, right, no. Jason is the main character. Well, because I was like, I think he's going to kill all the people. But here's the thing. I find myself in the same camp. I've seen a handful of Jason movies.
Starting point is 00:05:25 I think one of our guests tonight will have a little bit more knowledge than us. But I believe that someone with our knowledge level wrote this movie. Like, it didn't feel like it was a lot of deep dive. No, the person watched aliens, rewrote it. And instead of an alien, it was Jason. and they were like, that's the fucking movie. There's an android, there's a ship, and all of it. It's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I literally feel like it was a fever dream that happened in 2001. Like, Jason in Space. And then that was about all the thought process. I feel like there was a phone call at one point. There was like, hey, you remember when you said Jason in Space is a joke? We're going to do it. And the person was like, I don't think you should. I was very much joking.
Starting point is 00:06:15 There was an odd time, though, because the leprechaun franchise, a movie we also did here on the show, also went to space. Leprocon in space. I feel like there was a couple moments we're like, oh, fuck it, I don't know. Put them in space.
Starting point is 00:06:29 It's like, that's just heightening. Well, where else do we got to go? Space? I guess that's what we're doing. Fast and furious in space. By the way. I don't want to take credit. I think Fast 10 is a mashup
Starting point is 00:06:47 of the Fast and Furious movies with Apollo 10. I'll take it. I don't want to say that we did this, but I believe that we mentioned that it should be in space in our podcast, and then one reporter finally got a question to F. Gary Gray about
Starting point is 00:07:03 it during the press tour, and he's like, you never know. It wasn't like, no. Yep. Additional writing by... Additional writing by, how did this get made podcast? Get us that credit. WGA arbitration.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Do it. Let's bring out our... You guys love inside writing union jokes, right? Guys, we have a lot of specific material about arbitration. Stories, characters, plot points. The sag after the Writers Guild
Starting point is 00:07:33 health care plans. We struck, we won. We were ready to go back to work. Why is there a Writers Guild East and a West, unclear? Well, What if this whole show just became really a deep dive into who gets all the credits? Where you wrapped?
Starting point is 00:07:52 This is based on a story by, obviously. Oh, obviously. But screenplay by is someone else? Yeah, there you go. Tonight is the how did this game made all-star performance, which means that we have not one, but two guests who've been on the show before and are coming back again.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Our first guest, you know this guy from the show Transparent on Amazon. You also know him from movies like The House and Baywatch, but more importantly, he has a brand new YouTube Red series that he created. Please welcome. Rob Hubel. Hube!
Starting point is 00:08:32 Hube! Rob Hube! Hube! Hube! I realize. I realized. I realized that I just said that you created a YouTube show, but I didn't give you the name.
Starting point is 00:08:47 It's called... No, don't say the name of it. And it fits in perfectly here, do you want to see a dead body? That's right. And you can be watching that on YouTube Red right now. Right now. That's right.
Starting point is 00:09:00 When this comes out, this is a... Right now. So, Rob, I believe that you have a deep knowledge base of Jason. I heard you say that. That's not true. No, really? No. You don't have, like...
Starting point is 00:09:13 No. No, I like horror movies. Not, I don't like... Not especially. Like, these are not... But I will say, I like the song in the trailer. Let the bodies hit the floor. Let the body.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And if I'm not wrong, you are going to sing our second opinions theme tonight later, right? If the theme song... Let the bodies hit the floor. Let the opinions hit the floor. But I appreciate... I don't have a huge knowledge I've watched a bunch of them but I was very little
Starting point is 00:09:50 okay well then I will tip you into another story I was a little boy but you do have you did almost severely injure yourself while wearing a Jason mask though right I have a scar only you would know that story
Starting point is 00:10:05 I have a scar on my face that I fuck you I have a scar on my face from a what I thought would be a funny prank when I was in college. A bunch of us went away on like a date situation. A bunch of couples went to a... This sounds crazy. Is this an orgy?
Starting point is 00:10:32 I was hoping. Oh, I hope my wife doesn't listen to this. It was college. But anyway, we all went away for a weekend to a... summer camp. Somehow someone rented out this summer camp or like and so it was like you know 20 couples and so
Starting point is 00:10:50 I was very excited I'm going to keep this very brief I didn't know you're going to say that and I thought oh well I got scare everybody like I do love being scared and I love scaring people so I brought a hockey mask and I brought a long blonde wig and I brought a hatchet with me
Starting point is 00:11:08 and so the first night you know it was college like everyone's drinking and smoking ween and partying. And I was like, it got really late, and I was like, oh, I can't wait. I can't wait to scare everybody. And so I put on my hockey mask and my wig, and I went up, and everybody was down in this, like, one, like, cabin.
Starting point is 00:11:24 And I remember, like, sitting there, like, getting full-on cane hotter, like, just, like, really. And I started, so I had my hatchet and my fucking wig, and I was, like, running. And my plan was, I was just going to, like, burst into this cabin and, like, scare everyone. Well, I was running like as fast as I could And all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:11:45 I thought someone stepped out from behind a tree And hit me in the face with a baseball bat What it actually was It was a children's summer camp where we were And I ran into a clothes line Like a wire, like an old rusty wire Full speed like as fast as I can run And I can run like 60, 70 miles an hour
Starting point is 00:12:06 You're like a leopard So knocked off my... Anyway, I have a scarer my face. Thank you for us. I will say that story, in that story, you do use the name of the actor who plays Jason. I do know. Which means
Starting point is 00:12:22 you know more about this movie of franchise that I... Well, we have a good Kane Hodder story. Yeah, we'll save it. We'll tell a little Kane Hodder as we get into it. Our second guest tonight, a fantastically funny performer. She does a show here at Largo, but she has a
Starting point is 00:12:38 movie right now on Amazon Prime. It's called Landline. You can watch it right now. It's fantastic. She also is one of the stars of the new Netflix series, Big Mouth. Please welcome Jenny Slate. Welcome. You are the person that now I felt bad that we made you watch us because you are not watching horror movies. Furious. I really didn't know that this would be the kind of movie. I feel like we got you to agree.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Let me tell you what, Jason, that he was texting to see if I was feeling okay, because I had the flu for like 90 years. And then it was like in the, are you okay, blah, blah, blah. Do you want to do this show? I was like, okay. And then I get a very formal email from Paul saying, be here, then, da, da, the movie is Jason S. Yeah. I was like, you're got to.
Starting point is 00:13:39 to be kidding me. I watched it a couple hours ago. I'm literally dressed like a man because I felt, I felt like, so scared. I like put up my largest clothes on just to leave. So you felt as though you had no recourse from fear other than to dress as a man. Look at the world around you.
Starting point is 00:14:06 In theory, in theory, protecting yourself from certain Doom? Because the killer would be like, oh, it's not a pretty girl. It's just some man. Yeah. It's just a scared man. No one wants to talk to him. Who gives a hoot about that, Stella? Who gives a crap about that guy? I'm like, don't come over here.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I will say, though, I think you got off really easy because on the scare factor, this is not that scary. At all. It's not scary at all. Not scared. There's a couple of gross out moments, but that's really it. A lot of gross stuff. I would say the gross stuff has nothing to do with killing. And Jason.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I would say that there's two that I can think of, and they both have to deal with nipples. Oh. Yeah. Like the bodies hit the floor. What really stunned me about this film. And really, my mouth was open the whole time. I just can't believe any of it.
Starting point is 00:15:08 But at the beginning, when they're trying to decide whether or not to freeze... First of all, I don't understand why Jason's so upset, but that's another thing. But secondly, and I haven't seen any of Jason's other movies. But they're like, should we freeze him, should we not? And then the scientist goes, this is the grossest thing I've ever heard. I want him soft. You want him soft? I wrote that down, too.
Starting point is 00:15:32 No, you don't. Well, first of all, let's us even step it back and go... Sorry. No, no, you were right. I'm just saying that... Crystal Lake was a campground. And when this movie opens, it's the Crystal Lake Research Facility. So in some years, this, like, kids camp has now become, like, a science facility.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Yes, that checks out. That totally checks out. You know what? I will get on board for that. Why, other than our main... The main woman who lives to be in the future with him, you've got Jason, you've got like six dudes that he kills, and then it's giant facility with nobody else in it.
Starting point is 00:16:13 It's completely dark. It's a very big facility. It's enormous. With the sciences, it looks sort of like Matthew Modine. I was like, no, it's no, it's not. No, it's David Cronenberg. No, no, not. Oh, yeah, that's David Cronenberg.
Starting point is 00:16:25 In the very, yeah. In the beginning, the guy that's like, don't you worry about it. Oh, okay, great, blah, blah, that's David Cronterberg. Well, by the way, David Cronenberg. And I was like, oh, no, Cronenberg? And Kronenberg sets up... He was there for like a day then. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Oh, I think an hour and a half. He was there for 45 seconds. Cronenberg sets up something that I don't believe is canon of Jason. And here you go. Take a listen. What are you doing here? I'm taking the specimen. Well, you can't.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I haven't prepped the cryostasis chamber. I don't want him frozen, Rowan. I want him soft. We've already discussed this. Yeah, well, I had to go over your head. I'm moving him to our Scrant facility. Dr. Wimmer, you can't risk transporting him through open country. This isn't open for discussion.
Starting point is 00:17:15 His unique ability to regenerate lost and damaged tissue, and it just cries out for more research. And you're willing to risk the deaths of innocent civilians if he escapes. Yes. But I'm sure Sergeant Marcus and his men can handle the transfer just fine. Sergeant. Everything's under control, man. you know what we're not going to light him at all
Starting point is 00:17:37 we're going to have Kronenberg Litt and the other guy he's in the shadows the other guy looks like the guy who was like Rambo's buddy and Rambo but but no but I didn't know that was a part of Jason's like lore that he could just regenerate like a vampire throughout the movie it's as if
Starting point is 00:17:54 Jason Voorhees is Wolverine and that I don't think was part of the story I don't know if they ever said it per se but it's like implied that like He can come back. He's unkillable, yeah. But is he a ghost?
Starting point is 00:18:06 Is he dead? Does he have a soul? First of all, I don't understand. I wrote these questions. Does Jason, what is Jason? I wrote Cronenberg exclamation point. What is Jason? Which for me is an existential note.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Right. That's not even about the film. No, that was not about the film. That's just your stuff. What is Jason? I just, that's from when I was just looking at myself in the mirror. The first thing I wrote down, the writer who wrote this is named Todd Farmer,
Starting point is 00:18:39 and I wrote, Keep Your Day Job, Farmer. And I'm not going to say that joke. Which is, he's a farmer. He is a farmer. But because, I mean, Jason has no motivation. As a character,
Starting point is 00:18:53 he is just, like, he's like a... Well, this is the... This is the death movie. Like, it would be... Did he ever? Yeah. I asked my friend who I watched the movie
Starting point is 00:19:03 because I was too afraid to watch it alone. We get it. You've got friends. I'm sorry. I can't have it. I love being popular. I mean, come on. I get it. I watched it alone.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I had an existential crisis. I get it. You have friends. I was telling you, go ahead, sir. Well, he said that Jason got pushed into a lake a long time ago and he's upset. It's not. But that's what, guys, that's what I heard.
Starting point is 00:19:26 That's what I heard. Jenny, I have an update. I have an update. Your friends are morons. Well, I wish. I will say that on the commentary track that the writer did admit to never seeing the other movies.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Wow. And here, if you want a quick look back at the Jason films, part one, Jason's mother is Jason. She's stalking and murder... She is Jason? Yes, she's wearing the mask. And she is stalking and murdering the teenagers of Camp Crystal Lake
Starting point is 00:19:58 because Jason drowned in the lake due to their negligence. Yeah. So that's a cool idea. She's decapitated at the end. So it's like a revenge story for the mother. So let's go out of space. No, and then part two, Jason is alive
Starting point is 00:20:12 and he's a fully grown man. He returns to Crystal Lake to guard it from intruders. Five years after the event of the first film, Jason murders a new group of campers. And then the final girl finds a shrine in the woods to Mrs. Vore. He's head. And then Jason kills her with a machete.
Starting point is 00:20:30 This reminds me when I was a little boy. Oh, no, she killed. She kills Jason with a machete. Part three, Jason removes the machete from his shoulder and finds his way to a local farm where he hides in the barn and kills anyone who comes in and then finds a hockey mask to hide his face. Wait, that's when the hockey mask arrives?
Starting point is 00:20:48 There's no hockey mask in previous movies? I think that had to be. Maybe... It wasn't. Oh, wow. You shut your mouth. So... Thank you for that information.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Wait, what? It's almost at the end of the third movie. Oh, it's almost at the end. So, Jason finds a hockey mask. So in the early movies, what is he wearing on his dumb face? Nothing. You see him from the back. Bag?
Starting point is 00:21:11 A bag. Oh. Yeah, he's wearing like a burlap sack. Like a burlap sack. Yeah, yeah. Is that right? Yeah. Wait, for real?
Starting point is 00:21:18 Yeah. His first movie, he's not into first. It's just his mom. All right. His mom's nude? Not for nothing. Considering yourself about to be watched Friday the 13th one.
Starting point is 00:21:33 So if you can hear... You're telling me there's nude moms in this movie? What do you think my preferred channel on Pornhub is? So if you couldn't hear it clearly enough, first movie Jason's mom is wearing nothing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Second movie, Jason's wearing a bag over his head. Third movie bag until hockey mask. Then we go into... He's seemingly killed by an axe to the head in part three. Then the final chapter starts with Jason killing everyone in the morgue that he's taken to.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Wait a minute. Killing everyone in the morgue is easy. They're already gone. Sounds like a bit redundant. We both really, you know. And then he left us. Open the drawer. Step, step, step, step, step.
Starting point is 00:22:19 It's to build up his self-confidence. He was, to Jason's point, he did get an axe in his head. So he thought those people were alive. Then he returns to Camp Crystal Lake, kills everyone and then a character named Tommy
Starting point is 00:22:32 who's at the cabin near the camp kills Jason then a new beginning starts with Jason with Tommy being committed to a mental institution
Starting point is 00:22:41 while a copycat takes on Jason's likeness then Jason lives Wait Tommy becomes Jason Yes Then Tommy visits Jason's grave and accidentally
Starting point is 00:22:53 resurrects him Wait a minute Accidentally Resurrection I think there was Like a lightning bolt? Yeah, lightning strikes the grave. I was such a little boy.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And then Tommy... I don't like thinking about you as I did. By the way, lightning and electricity can reanimate anyone. Always. Always. Always. And then it gets crazy. Then he's like chained, put to the bottom of the lake.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Then part seven, Jason's telekinetically resurrected by Tina, who was trying to bring back her father. I want to see her. And then Tina returns Jason to the bottom of the lake. And then part eight, Jason goes to Manhattan. where he works for Meryl Streep and is dating Adrian Grenier Not a lot of people know
Starting point is 00:23:42 that Jason Voorhees was originally cast in the Devil Wears products and they shot 30% of the movie with him and we're like, it's not working. Then he's melted by toxic waste and then and Jason goes to hell the final Friday Jason is resurrected, but we don't know why. The FBI is hunting him and then kills him.
Starting point is 00:24:05 He survives by possessing different beings until his niece stabs him with a magic dagger and sends him to hell. So that's... Wait, isn't there a Jason Freddie movie? Yeah. But that's not canon. Oh.
Starting point is 00:24:19 That is a side... That's like a one-off. That's like the New Hope. That's like a side movie going... Not New Hope. I mean, Rogue One. Oh, oh, oh, sorry. Well, Rogue One is still canon.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Just a side movie. He's not part of the trilogy. Can I ask a question? Yeah. And we might not have answers, but one of these dildos might. When and why is he obsessed with his machete? And also, where did it come from in this movie? He's all chained up.
Starting point is 00:24:49 His old one that he sees on the... Yeah, he's all chained up in the prison. And then when he's free, he's like, got my machete. Yeah. He has it when he's frozen. Before they freeze him then Before they freeze him He's all chained up in the opening scene
Starting point is 00:25:03 Right Also is the opening credits Take place in hell They take place inside of his body Ah okay okay I wasn't paying good enough attention That was like inner space Have you seen the movie
Starting point is 00:25:15 Inner Space? Yes And not to bring up that I obviously Watch this with a very cool friend But that's what my friend said Oh really? Yeah Am I your cool friend? No I watched it with another cool friend
Starting point is 00:25:25 I didn't watch it with anybody so I didn't have any... Can I tell you how I watch this, Paul? Very briefly, we're sleep training our baby right now, which don't have babies. And so basically what that means is you just let your baby cry and you don't go in there and then they figure out like, oh, I'm going to be okay.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Before they realize you don't love them. So I was watching the movie with one headphone in right by her, and watching the baby monitor like this and it was fucking the baby monitor was what was scaring me because you know it's just like a little tiny person like ah I will say something I'm like that's dumb okay by the way you need to score your baby monitor to let the bodies at the floor oh no hey babe come here look at this let the bodies hit the floor Just your adorable child?
Starting point is 00:26:28 Like, I watched this movie on an airplane because I needed to cram it in before I got back here. Ooh, never said a phrase, cram it in again. And I was sitting... I'd appreciate it. Like I'm soft. Ooh, cram it in while it's soft.
Starting point is 00:26:49 I was sitting next to a child. My child? Yes. Who was doing fine? Who was fast asleep? You're sleep training my baby on a plane. And, you know, that's why you're supposed to do it, by the way. They don't tell you that in the books.
Starting point is 00:27:06 You take your baby in the plane train them. You got a plane train those babies. Yeah, plane train them. Plain train an automobile. So I'm watching this movie on an airplane next to a child. I feel like the first scene, the kid looks over at my iPad and sees, like, somebody's head get, like, sliced off. And I kind of, like, cover up.
Starting point is 00:27:25 my iPad and then I'm watching it further and then there's that scene with like the two girl campers and it's the only time that like real nudity is in the movie I'm like ah and then I turn it like here's real nudity earlier in the movie very little with the robot's nipples
Starting point is 00:27:42 they fall off it was so clinical let's get to that let's get to that we'll get there okay okay sorry I have a 30 minute monologue about that I so I got nervous and the nudity came on with the kid, that I turned my iPad out to the aisle, which meant that I was just flashing the people
Starting point is 00:28:04 like, hey, anybody want to get a look at this? Check it out. It was so, I was like, oh, I was really mortified. And then I was like, now I'm like this fucking creepo who's like watching like a Jason movie on my iPad. Like everyone's like watching like Baby Driver and Spider-Man. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. Like, you're watching, like, legit trash.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Like, and I clearly bought it. It's not even on the seat back entertainment. It's like, I've got to watch this shit easy. I don't want to watch what you've got. I've got my own, what I think is better. That's the message you're sending is my watching is more important than what you have on offer. It's this.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I tried to make my note-taking really, like, parent because I just didn't want it. I wanted to be like, well, clearly he's doing it for some sort of reason. So you've got like what? I'm a writer. A quill and a bottle of ink. Taking notes, taking notes, just me, taking notes.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Just me, taking notes. I have a, just to back up a question about this opening scene, and then we should probably move on. Yeah, sure. Why am I driving the podcast? You know what? But isn't this, the scene where they go in and Jason's chained up and then they come back
Starting point is 00:29:31 and the guy puts the coat over his face, isn't that just stolen from Silence of the Lans? That is the scene from Silence of the Lambs. Yeah, no, I feel like this guy, this writer, didn't have any issue with that. He said the movie is based so much on Alien that he named one of the characters after Tom Scarrett's character in the Alien film.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Like, he named, every single character, like the cowboy hat fucking copay. Yeah, like. Everybody. It is, it really is. Just, man, scarrit. We, I mean, like, the guy's a legend. I was gonna talk about Alien War,
Starting point is 00:30:09 and then I was just like, me, we need more Tom Scarrett in the world. Just saying. A mustache? Oh, I'll sit in this. I don't care. All right, so here we are... We're at Camp...
Starting point is 00:30:27 No, no, no, Paul, Paul. Scary. So here we are, Camp Crystal Lake Research Facility, a place that's seemingly uninhabited, with no lights, and very damp. There was literally water on the floor. They have this test subject. a serial killer they want to hold they yet let him keep his hockey mask on
Starting point is 00:30:57 which seems like they would I think that you'd want to see what was under the hockey mask or you wouldn't have to let him. There's a weird line where they were they're first assessing him where they say that hockey has been outlawed well that's from the future. In 2024
Starting point is 00:31:11 was when they outlawed but they don't tell us why hockey has been outlawed. Football's still going on on Earth 2 in this movie Hockey panel. Also, the guy realizes it's a hockey mask, and I was like, obviously, they're in the future, but they're like 450 years in the future.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Yeah. Like, I don't think a hockey mask would be that recognizable. No. Yeah, if it's been outlawed for that long. But also, their technology, they're, you know, they're using, like, you know, FaceTime, you know. Oh, they are also wearing half shirts. They're wearing, they're all in Chanel sweaters.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Everybody's wearing half shirts. Why are they wearing that in a lab? Like, she's like giving him an operation in the hornyest sweater. Why are they, those two doorks are so horny? And then they just go and trust for no reason. Why don't you guys come back when you're more focused? Yeah. And they're like, okay, we will.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah, whoa. That's crazy science stuff. It really is transplanting all of the hornyness of summer camp onto a spaceship. Yes. So weird. A spaceship out of a CW show. And I mean that in no offense to CW. You know what?
Starting point is 00:32:22 offense to CW. It's just like really bad graphics. It's like so much. There's some CW on blast. There's some also, there's some digital blood in this that is also really bad. When the guy gets his arm cut off, like there's some, I like had to go back
Starting point is 00:32:38 and go, just fucking try. Like, try to make the blood spurt. The first arm that gets cut off of like the dork. By the way, why would he be allowed on that science expedition? He's like a dumbass. He's like the stupidest.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Why would they have brought him? He needs it. You can't have that kind of hair if you work in the lab. You can't have your hair out. I know you think it's moose from step up and it's not. So basically, but we won't even know
Starting point is 00:33:05 like, so, you know, Jason is accidentally frozen. This space crew comes, like, salvaging Earth One, but we don't even know what this crew is. They don't seem like they have any job. Like, in alien, they're like, oh, they're like space truckers, essentially.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Like, you know, on Serenity, they're like pirates, you know, they're kind of doing clandest and stuff. Here, it just looks like a bunch of young, good-looking people who are kind of all-equal scientists. It's like a school. It's like a mobile school, I think. Yeah. Oh, yeah, right. There is a school element. Because the guy's a professor.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And he loves his nipples to be young. Whoa. Even 450 years from now, he's still. 450 years from now, he's wearing current-day, like, negligent. What was the line that the girl says about her midterm? Oh, no, right? When she's like, do it, do it.
Starting point is 00:33:58 And then he goes, you pass. Just like, such a funny thing to say at orgasm. Oh, wait, some of you guys, who am I going to guess in this audience two of you are going to have sex tonight? Scream, you pass. You pass. Or if you're listening to this on the podcast
Starting point is 00:34:17 with your lover, scream, you pass. You pass. Let's just hear it in real time here. I'm good. Right there? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Come on, come on. You pass! Wow! That device is too big. I thought when she first brought it in, it was gyneological equipment. I don't like this already, and then I didn't like this more
Starting point is 00:34:48 than the thought of the thing that I didn't like. What do you think? My question is, is this the tool's intended use? Or is this a alternative use? Maybe she just grabbed it. She's like, oh, I'm about to see professor and just grabbed it on her way from the lab. Oh, I'm gonna grab champagne.
Starting point is 00:35:03 She was really thinking about the rose. And this, like something that is like, like hedge trimming shears in size. Oh, I mean. The other thing. Is she having sex? She has her underwear on. That's the other thing that I was just about to say.
Starting point is 00:35:17 And then I just stopped myself because I was like, I don't know if I can live through what I'm about to say. You go, Rob. Well, when I have sex, when I have sex... If you die, we will have lightning strike you to reanimate you. And then, apparently, this man climaxing is what awakes Jason. Like... Wait, really?
Starting point is 00:35:40 Yeah. Because he doesn't like hornyness. Yeah, that's the one thing that we know. He doesn't. He hates fucking teens. He doesn't hate fucking... He hates teens that fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:50 But he hates fucking... Right, he hates fucking teens. Yeah, he's a real true. He fucking hates fucking teens. And he can smell jizz. He can smell jizz. But he immediately kills the person who was bringing him back to life,
Starting point is 00:36:04 who seemed to be the only one that was doing her job. Yeah, by the way, that was really violent. Like, her entire body was sucked out of a four-inch hole vent. And before she got sucked, she said, this sucks. Yeah. Yeah, it gets sucked on so many levels. By the way, not to pull the rug out from under us, but at the beginning of the movie,
Starting point is 00:36:27 they set up that they can reanimate arms and everything. Who cares if anyone gets killed? We'll bring them back. Right. It doesn't matter if any of us get killed. Like, why would we possibly be upset? It's like, oh, okay, except for the girl that got sucked through the vent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:44 But here's my other issue with this whole movie, ultimately. You bring the serial killer, and I get it, that has to be the conceit of the movie, right? You gotta get this guy on. But it's a confined space where all you need to do is sound an alarm, say, hey, everybody, stay in your bunks. There is no, seemingly zero communication
Starting point is 00:37:02 between anyone in any given point. There's no intercom. There's so many ways this could have been avoided. I mean, it's movie. You could have not asked me to watch it. The link I had could have been broken. There's so many ways I could have avoided watching. No, they are constantly, that's where I was like,
Starting point is 00:37:24 I had to readjust and be like, oh no, these movies are this. These movies are, it's all about the kills, it's all about people making dumb decisions and going to the basement when they shouldn't, or like when the dude is like on the run and he's like, wait a minute, quick, we gotta get to the shuttle, but should I fuck my robot that I just made? That's the craziest.
Starting point is 00:37:46 It's like, yeah, I think I fucking should. How did they do the nipple effect? So that actress, they covered up her real nipples and then put fake plastic nipples on there, so much so that when they fell off, I was like, oh my god. Her nipples fall off like your refrigerator lost magnetism. Yes, it's total sub-zero time.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I assumed it was like a computer, it was like a computer effect. Do you think it was practical? They feel like they're CGI, but it's a computer. Here we go, let's, but let's do this. I spend the money on that. The sound that they make is what really makes it disturbing.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Do you think? Mm-hmm. Do you like them? They're fine. Oh, God. It sounds like two sack of wee of silver dollars hitting the ground.
Starting point is 00:38:38 So if he did put on steel nipples, what is he getting out of that either? Also, who manufactured those in space? She was like, you to make me some nipples and he was like, I'm busy.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Really? I've got a lot to say about this movie. Why is when Jason is still dead, not dead, but like, yeah, dead. When they are, when a blondeie who gets smashed, when she is kind of doing stuff, she's, you know, carves his mask off of his face, blah, blah, blah. Why is the goop that leaks out of his head green? Yeah, why is it?
Starting point is 00:39:20 Again, and I wrote it again, what is Jason? Also, why did she need to, why did she need to, like, clearly cut off the mask? But then, seemingly the mask stayed, like, she just kind of smushes it back on it. She puts it on in, like, a non-medical way. Like, that's not the way a doctor would, like, put your thing back. Just, like, just, like, just putting a sticker. She takes his eyeball out and just looks at it and then, like, freezes it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Puts it in a thing, yeah. Also, Shear, I forgot this character's name. What's your name in real life? Is that Alexa? Doig. Doig. What is it? Doig, I'm assuming.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Like, no doig. And so her... Does anybody know what it is? Doig. So her first line when she wakes up, this movie was made in 2001. She wakes up in 2455. The first words out of her mouth are, did you get him
Starting point is 00:40:19 that's the first like her first order of business it was cold when I was frozen or well first she clocks where am I yeah she clocks that guy first of all which is hilarious by the way Jason's machete
Starting point is 00:40:33 when what we under what we have to believe goes through like metal yeah like cryogenic chamber like a hot knife through butter like to to kind of get her killed
Starting point is 00:40:47 too But, like, that machete, someone should look into that. That machete seems like it had some powers. He's obsessed with this machete. Like, I would argue, like, the machete is, like, his true love. It's almost as if this movie was written by someone who never saw any of the Jayce movie. But this professor guy or this teacher guy, his whole motivation is, it's like a weird, like, he just wants people to pay to see her. Remember, he says, like, he says, like, oh, people will pay money to see her.
Starting point is 00:41:18 see her she was for and then she goes away and then it's like or whatever and then so then he's like people pay money to see jason like he's like some carnival animal or something which you know that's not going to work out well at all yeah just kill everybody yeah uh it's it's a it's a weird it's a weird movie because they're just running they're not no there's no there's no there's no there's no um reasoning with jason there's no reason why he has any grudges with any of these people They have not done anything bad to him, but bring him back to life. And, well, that's it. It's interesting.
Starting point is 00:41:55 He's like a Frankenstein-type figure. Yeah. But there is no, like, there is no understanding. It really is. We're looking at it the wrong way. I think the way you're supposed to look at it is he is the hero. We love him. We're rooting for him.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Is that it, right? Yes, for real. Like, we're rooting for him. To kill all the dumb-dums. To kill all the dumb-dums while we beat off, although this movie is very hard to beat off to. You can find your moments. Respectfully disagree.
Starting point is 00:42:26 What do you mean you could find... Look, I was on a plane, so it was a little bit more challenging? Can I tell our bummer story about... Yeah, yeah, sure. Okay, the actor that plays Jason in real life is named Kane Hodder, and I'm scanning the audience as if I know what he looks like.
Starting point is 00:42:46 So hopefully he's not here. But one time Shear and I were at something in New York, it was like a Comic-Con type, but not Comic-Con. It was a very low-level horror convention in New Jersey. Yes, like in a hotel. Wait, are you sure it was a horror convention, or were you just in New Jersey, nailed it? That's right, New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Kaboom. How'd that feel? So it was one of those things where you go and there were people, you know, there are the signing booths. And so, Kane Hodder, Jason from the movie is there, you know, and you pay 20 bucks to get his autograph or whatever. So it was very close to Halloween, like it is not when this podcast comes out. And so the cutest thing I've ever seen in my life was a probably... Keep in mind you have a child.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Yes. The cutest thing you've ever seen in your life, though, is this. This is cuter than... This is cuter. This is cuter. My child is a crybaby. No, this... So there was a mom there with like a third. three-year-old boy in fucking full-on Jason Garb, tiny little overalls, tiny little hockey mask,
Starting point is 00:43:56 like three years old, like, you know, bare, like doing this. And his mom is there, sees Kane Hodder there, like, you know, he's got a big poster or whatever, and she's like, go on, go on, go on, go on up there. And so the little boy is just like, g-g-g-g-g- and goes up there, and he gets up to Kane-Hotter,
Starting point is 00:44:14 the person in real life, and Kane-Hotter goes, 20 bucks. 20 bucks to the little kids. So I couldn't help but remember that as I was watching this movie that like, oh, that guy, what a surprise that Jason is a bad dude in real life. Edit out that pause, Paul.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Take out this pause. Take out this pause. No, you know, let's just sit in this. Take it out. Take out that pause. So Jason is on this. that has an anchor in it, the spaceship
Starting point is 00:44:50 has an anchor. Yeah, because you have to anchor your spaceship. Yeah. All the time. Otherwise, it'll float away into space. And so many rooms full of chains. That's why on all the space things, you hear that say drop anchor. Star Wars, drop anchor. Star Trek. Mr. Sulu, drop anchor.
Starting point is 00:45:10 They just need to get him in room to chains and, like, giant, like, they just put like, put an anchor, we'll put something on an anchor. And, like, that, I'll give into that. But what I don't like is the abuse of VR in this movie. These two kids are playing VR. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:29 And Jason murders the VR orc, and it, like, exists in the game. Jason is able to, without his own set, without anything, exist. And to the game they're in, participate. and then when they take the masks off he's just standing there and the video game disappears and he's like what's going on
Starting point is 00:45:54 and to me why not just make the smarter choice of not making the people in the future wear any sort of VR masks like make it like a holiday everybody is in a thing yeah no but they have the two guys sitting down on like two carpets
Starting point is 00:46:07 and why are they sitting on the floor like that like where is that the game room or do they just sit down like they're sitting down like how people 400 years ago watch television I was more I was more psyched about those monsters
Starting point is 00:46:24 like it was such a misdirect I was like oh cool now we're gonna see some fucking cool monsters and then it was like oh this is a fucking VR sim or whatever I don't know technology you know what furthers your hypothesis that
Starting point is 00:46:40 Jason is the hero is that every human being in this movie is a fucking asshole. The only nice one is the woman who puts his mask back on. She's like, poor thing or something like that. He really ruins her head. Yeah, and it's what she got.
Starting point is 00:46:56 But, like, they, these fucking dyes single-handedly destroy Solaris without a care in the world. They never examined. No repercussions. How many hundreds or thousands of people lived on that space station? Just...
Starting point is 00:47:13 They drove through it and it exploded. And then it explodes and they're like, oh my God! Back it up! They are awful people and that's... And I guess that was maybe, for me, the thing that was giving me a little bit of tension. I was like, well, these people are terrible. But Jason is the protagonist.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Yeah. I think what I'm not used to. Well, my... That's a... I mean, I'm the protagonist in my life, I feel like. So I understand where Jason could be the protagonist. Right, you just, you feel like it's just about Jason. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Most things are. Yeah. Manzook X. My, one of my main beefs is the poor commitment to jolts on the spaceship. Yeah. You know, because, like, everyone's going into a different direction. Like, Solaris blows up. One guy goes that way.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Someone goes like this. Someone else goes like, whoa! You know? It's like Star Trek. level, like original series Star Trek level, like, oh, oh. Yeah. But the robot woman is actually good at the jolts.
Starting point is 00:48:19 She's got a lot of jokes that she does. Lisa Ryder is her name. Lisa Ryder is far in a way crushing it in this movie. Just interesting, you know, obviously one of the big reveals of this movie is when the robot like becomes full on Terminator, she gets an upgrade and like load. Upload, sorry. So does that mean, he just like,
Starting point is 00:48:40 He just, like, booked it up in there. They're like, you're better now. They're trying to escape to the pod, and he's like, wait a minute. And they have, like, a moment that is romantically charged, but I don't think she understands romance. No, I think she does. She loves him. That's why she wants her nipples.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Is that it? Yeah, because she wants to be like Janessa. Also, there's a character 450 years from now named Janessa. A fourth of a blouse. Which I have a lot of trouble with. Whoa. Genessa. Yeah, the guy writing it was like,
Starting point is 00:49:19 what's the name of a sexy girl who will like me, basically? Like, he just, like, you know, he falls in love with her while he's writing it. He just loves Janessa. Janessa and Todd Farmer walk down the street. Yeah, he's like, shoot, I gotta change it. You know that, like, someone from Todd Farmer's past
Starting point is 00:49:36 is like, is this about me? and he's like, no, Vanessa, why would you say that? Janessa's shirt is like the most insane garment I've ever seen in my life. Yes. And one, and it's like, it's crazy. It's just like two strips down and tittyes like that. And then, and then with like weird bolts, right?
Starting point is 00:50:00 Yeah. And then, and also my pants just are completely broken. I can't, I can't stand up like this. By the way, they say that in the movie. They say, she says, don't wreck my pants. Don't wreck my hands. Just don't wreck my hand. That was a great box.
Starting point is 00:50:12 That should have been on the box. But there is a part where they're doing something that's, like, tough. And she, like, she, like, makes sure that her shirt's on. As if it was ever really on. To begin. Like, yeah. She should have been wearing something. Everyone in that spaceship should be wearing more.
Starting point is 00:50:28 More. And, yeah, like, it's weird to say for a hard movie. Put on more clothes, people. Except for during the sex scene when they should be wearing less. Yeah. Even the military. people are like pornographically dressed.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Yeah. I will say this is interesting. So when Jason is killed, he's reformed. Now, if you listen to the podcast, you know, we did a movie called Virtuosity, and the way that Jason came back was an
Starting point is 00:50:58 idea stolen from virtuosity. Wow. Literally? Yes, truly. This is on the commentary track. The writer, Todd Farmer, lifted this idea of nanotechnology from virtuosity he said he thought it would be cool so
Starting point is 00:51:16 Because it worked in that movie worked in virtuosity but it's also it's not just nanotechnology it's just ants like at one point they cut to like an extreme close-up and it's just fucking bugs it looks like
Starting point is 00:51:31 I think they're robot bugs yeah they're nanotechnology there's supposed to be robot bugs well yeah of course But still, you've got a bug problem. It's a fucking bug problem. Just to give you an idea of other ideas that Jason could have been in instead of space,
Starting point is 00:51:46 these are the ideas they passed on. All right, so Jason in the hood. Lepricon. Well, that's right. Jason in the snow. Jason underwater. Yeah. Jason in the Arctic.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Well, isn't that the snow? Totally different, bro. Totally different. You've never been to the Arctic. Yeah, one could be like, one could be like the thing and one could be like Snow Day. The other one, Jason in L.A. fighting gangs. The other one, Jason on Safari
Starting point is 00:52:19 and they even considered something involving the NASCAR circuit. Wow. Yeah, that... The, um, did you have any thoughts on the Sim at the end? The Crystal Lake throwback where that's where I was showing nudity to people on my airplane yeah yeah that's an odd sequence because that's like one of those rare moments too where like I felt bad because it felt like gratuit like you like there's no like how could you get anyone to even do it's like hey so this is
Starting point is 00:52:53 not integral to the part the plot this is something like you know what are your what are our lines well you're going to yell we love premarital sex and then then we get into sleeping bag and are beaten to death with each other's body using the sleeping bag as a weapon. So they cut back to Jason Voorhees and he's holding a sleeping bag
Starting point is 00:53:18 with a girl in it and he's clobbering the other girl in a sleeping bag with that girl. I will say... Full metal jacket. I will say that there's a lot of weird production design in it
Starting point is 00:53:30 but I did feel like the sleeping bags were not full enough. Like they felt... They didn't feel like And the audio, when in the audio check, we're like, ow, ow, ow, ow. Yeah, I couldn't understand what the audio was. I was like, are they, is the sim glitching,
Starting point is 00:53:45 are they laughing still? They're like looking up at the camera and they're like, how is the sim prepared for that scenario? Yeah. Like, what, I don't know that it's, that that's within the, I don't know. He was using, he, the, the boyfriend of K.M. was using her severed head.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Yes. And somehow jacked that in to the SIM thing, right? And she was downloading that program. Am I wrong? Can I also say, I love K-M, but I also like the scientist. I liked her boyfriend. I like that guy.
Starting point is 00:54:20 You like that guy? To me, he was the most relatable character in the film. Let's all go around and say who our favorite dummy was. Mine was the robot. Yeah, the robot's good. I loved her non-magnetic nipples. I loved when she became. came like Laura Croft Tomb Raider at the end.
Starting point is 00:54:37 I would go with my favorite was, and I think this is him, Boyd Banks, who played Fat Lou, who was the guy who was like, Hey, what hell? I'm Fat Lou. You lack my stuff. No one ever says my name,
Starting point is 00:54:52 but you know who I am. Yeah. He has necklaces. Kids in their dumb field trips, I bet I'm going to catch shit for this. And then he gets chopped into, like, a gazillion pieces. Then the other guy comes up and is like, oh, this is a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:55:08 But I've seen worse. What? Yeah, that's never, they never, explore that at all. Are you going to explain what? What could be worse? The movie. Was that Vietnam? Like, I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:55:17 No, he's seen worse. And then he refers to some war that they fought. Oh, the Microsoft conflict. Where people were fighting each other with their own limbs. The Microsoft. Over old zoons. By the way, also, one of my favorite lines is, it's gonna take more than a poke in the ribs
Starting point is 00:55:42 to put this, put down this old dog. Flink! That ought to do it. That was a great line. That was great. That's where that movie was weird, because it's like, they were going for jokes, and I like that joke a lot,
Starting point is 00:55:57 but then they would also, like, they would treat some things like, like that, I think, work, but then there was another moment where, like, What's his condition? He's screwed. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Why did they have that big screw in there? That was her friend. She should be like, he's screwed. And why were they never shocked when people were dead? They're not in a war. They're scientists. They should be like, if they see one dead person that isn't like part of their lab, which they don't keep clean, they should be like,
Starting point is 00:56:26 the only time they did that. And be like, hey, hey, everyone. The only time they did that is when they ran out, like, one door opens and there's like a security guard dead and then they go like, ah! I was like, you don't even fucking know that guy. Also, the guy who she says, he's screwed, it's a visual joke or it's a visual line for her.
Starting point is 00:56:50 The person on the other end should be like, what do you mean? Yeah, wait, so what are you talking about? Is he late? He's not seen that the man has been impaled on screwed. He's like, what do you mean? He's screwed. You know why are you saying it like?
Starting point is 00:57:04 Oh, because there's a giant screw in this room and he's actually rotating around. So his body has been impaled on a giant screw. Okay, got it. Okay. That's good. Really, that was good. Let's go to the audience. Audience, do you have any questions, things that we haven't talked about?
Starting point is 00:57:22 I know we haven't talked about a lot. But anything at all. The scene where he is, it doesn't matter. Sir, your name, your question. My name's Matt. I'm just wondering if we can go over. the fact that they say they executed him three times. They went from electricity to
Starting point is 00:57:38 firing squad to hanging and then they just jumped to cryogenically freezing. Well, I think that that actually makes sense. You know, I feel like a certain point you're like well, we can't kill him so let's freeze him, yeah, let's put him on hold. I think they also said in gas. That checks out. Scientifically
Starting point is 00:57:54 that checks out. No, no, it doesn't check out. Yes, it does. Like, here's the thing. If you want that guy gone, chop him into a million pieces. They did that. They blew off his leg. They blew off In this movie. But yeah, but if the nanotechnology wouldn't have come back, he would.
Starting point is 00:58:09 I mean, again, they knew that he regenerated. So why would they leave him in that room alone? Why did they leave him on the like regeneration slide? Also, why does he regenerate, question mark? Because the bugs. But they can regenerate all of their friends. It doesn't matter. Sir, your name, your question.
Starting point is 00:58:30 My name's Devon. Why don't we need their names, Paul? I like it. I like it. I like it. He's using a fake name. The people at home are telling me. You're telling me that guy's name is Devin.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Yeah, his name's Devin. Nope. I don't buy it for a fucking minute. Paul? Paul? Yeah. Get his license. See you.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Let's check out your license. All right, Devin, if that's your name, your question. So early when the lady that travels through, or it's frozen and going through time. Doig? Yeah. When she's getting thawed, the robot says this. line that I think is just either miswritten or something. She's saying
Starting point is 00:59:08 I think she's supposed to be saying cellular but she says celery. Wow. First of all Good catch. Paul, that's not a question. It could be observations. We're taking observations
Starting point is 00:59:24 and questions. And you're telling me she says celery. No, well now I've got to watch the whole movie again. She's going through celery Regeneration. Celery regeneration.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I will say, to Devin's point, fake news. Fake news. It did seem like there were more than a couple flub lines that they didn't even try again. It seemed like there was a moment when Ms. Doig forgot her line and, like, ran into a room and was like, I, we have to get to the, like, and I was like,
Starting point is 01:00:03 Okay, I know what that is, because I've done that myself. You don't know what you're saying. We got it. Let's move on. Moving on. Check the gate. Your fake name and your question. Oh, well, my real name's Kareen, and that sounds fake enough, so let's just go with that.
Starting point is 01:00:23 So when the guard or when that Marine or whatever she just finds her right impaled and she's like, oh, he's been screwed. He hasn't even been screwed. It's a drill. Like, it's not even a screw. So my question is, what do you guys think about that? What about this? What about this? He's dead.
Starting point is 01:00:40 This is not a drill. Oh, wait, it is. Yeah. Yeah. You got a little bit of a standing ovation. You give us the scenario. We'll give you the clever wordplay. All right, your name, your question.
Starting point is 01:01:03 My name is Scott. And great an undercover shirt. Fake name. Undercover, this is great. So when the professor is with the Space Marine, he's like, do you have all your kids? He says, yes, I've got them all. They immediately cut to the Bobo Holladeck,
Starting point is 01:01:21 where they've got these idiots playing games. That's Todd Farmer. The bald idiot that gets cut in half is Todd Farmer. Really? Todd Farmer, also the writer-director, of Drive Angry of the Nicholas Cage movie that we did in this podcast
Starting point is 01:01:37 and was also killed in that as well. Paul, we have not even touched on the last minute of the movie where Jason comes... Yeah, no, sorry, sorry. Yeah, where Jason comes at us and then Brodsky
Starting point is 01:01:53 comes in and tackles him and then like Iron Man flies him back through the atmosphere, burning him up and they become a shooting star. and then two horny teenagers go, oh, a shooting star, make a... Are we not going to talk about...
Starting point is 01:02:09 Like, by the way, I would argue the best part of the entire movie is what you just... I think Todd Farmer started with that, am I wrong? Friend of Todd Farmer? All right, your name and your question. My name is Rachel, and I know that, like, the bad guy sneaking up on the unsuspecting people
Starting point is 01:02:28 are just kind of like the thing with this movie, but the rules about how... he moves around this set are bonkers. He like teleports from one room to another. And the one that drove me the most crazy is that girl is when he's coming back to life because all the people are having sex.
Starting point is 01:02:46 He moves his leg, she turns around, nothing. He shifts his hand. He just kind of clenches it. Nothing. He sits up and gets up off the table. Nothing. She doesn't, she doesn't, she's like, no, I don't hear that bit. Oh yeah. Yeah, there's a weird angle there where
Starting point is 01:03:01 they're kind of like showing her spine. Like, you know, she's in that cutoff shirt and it's like he's twitching and it's just like showing that like she's a vulnerable human or something like it's really, I was upset by that I'm also sleep training my baby so, by the way, I was thinking...
Starting point is 01:03:18 We get it, you've got friends. And you have unprotected sex, we get it. Once, one time. Gross. I mean, this is also, I will say to your point, a person who at that point in the movie is wearing change. So when he would move, you're hearing the rattling. You're always going to hear the rattling of the chattling.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Well, you would also think when he sat up, his hockey mask would fall to the ground. And there's a, sorry, go ahead. I mean, there's another point where, like, he's supposed to be in one other room. Oh, it's in the beginning. The guy falls through the door, and he's dying. She's like, oh, what happened, what happened?
Starting point is 01:03:56 He's in the room. He threw him through the door. She turns around. He's in the hallway. How did he get there? Did he cooperate? Where is the other door that he came through that he just teleported over there?
Starting point is 01:04:08 We're not gonna have an answer for you. I'm worried about you, because you seem genuinely upset about this. We have no answers. She has created like a JFK monument in her house of Shrek, you Gordon. You're positing a theory where there's another Jason. It's because this is the magic Jason theory.
Starting point is 01:04:31 There has to be another Jason on the grassy knoll. But you're, but you bring it up a good point that there is so much sneaking up behind people that it's like, it's ridiculous. Like, I, like, it, this movie could be called, just look behind you. Just, just, like, one, everyone's just backing up, backing up. No one ever goes, I'll just look where I'm going.
Starting point is 01:04:52 By the way, how about this? They introduced this so late in the film. There is a ship that they could just easily all get on and then leave Jason on the next main ship and get the fuck out of there. He's not blocking it. They don't have to get like... But then the one girl blows it up. Right, but they... But it would have been so easy
Starting point is 01:05:11 like, hey, let's all go to that one ship, right? Like they're... Like, it's like, oh, Jason, cut that up. But then what would we all be doing? We wouldn't be doing... We wouldn't be here. And again, again, you're acting as if that girl or those people are the characters we're following. Right. And it's not. Jason is the character
Starting point is 01:05:27 we are following. And my only, my only thought again... And Lexi Doig, I guess. Lexi? Alexa? Alexa? Alexa? No, no, now we just turned on everyone's Alexis at home. Oh, Alexa?
Starting point is 01:05:41 Doig. Alexa, Doig. Alexa, search Alexa Doig. Alexa, play Steely Dan, Peg. Um, the other thing... Alexa, what's the weather? Oh, this is fun. People in her, I'm like, oh, fuck!
Starting point is 01:06:00 God, come on! Alexa play Let the parties Hit the floor So Alexa Wake the baby Alexa Fuck you
Starting point is 01:06:13 Alexa Tell me a joke Alexa tell me a dirty joke There was I got I have an Alexa And I got an email Every week It's like
Starting point is 01:06:25 Do you like comedy Ask Alexa to tell you a limerick Ew You get that email every week? I would legit kill myself. I keep it around because I want to know what the new latest skills I could teach my Alexa are.
Starting point is 01:06:43 I don't do any of them. A limerick. A limerick. I just like to like, do you like comedy? Then ask Alexa for a good limerick. I would like this movie to be Jason running around with the mask constantly falling on. Just that like, just the slap thing.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Killing someone, oh, fuck, where is it, where is it? My contacts are in that mask. Like, how have they done ten of these? How have they never done one that's just like the airplane version of this movie? Sir, your name and your question. My name is Ryan, and unfortunately, it is a bit of a statement, but I have some insight that relates to this movie.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Are you Todd Farmer? Yes. I have a limerick. No. I can explain Kane Hodder's sour disposition. Okay. So, Freddy versus Jason is canon. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Oh, damn, all right. This is something that fans campaign for, and Kane Hodder and Robert England both campaign for it. Conventions and stuff, probably like the one you went to. When it finally was going to happen, all the rights came together in the different studios and whatever, at the end of Jason goes to hell. Jason sinks into hell, literally. The mask is all that's left, and the last scene in the movie is Freddy's hand.
Starting point is 01:07:58 coming up out of the ground and grabbing it. So Freddie lives underground in hell. In Jason goes to hell, apparently. He has an apartment. He has a time share. So years and years of campaigning. Like this was like, Kane Hodder's life was campaigning for this movie to get made.
Starting point is 01:08:18 They made the movie with Robert England as Freddy. Some other dude is Jason. Oh. And this is Kane Hodder here in this one. So you think that Kane Hodder is just... Kain Hodder's been a bitter individual one or something. Oh, you're saying, I'm sorry. I thought this whole story was about why Jason is always
Starting point is 01:08:36 trying to kill everyone, but you're... This is the real... Me too. And Kane Hodder, well, now I want to know more, because I don't know, he's probably a nice guy. And also, I don't want to get murdered. Like, please... Kane Hodder, don't, please...
Starting point is 01:08:49 I'm glad you said that, because up until that, because we've been friends for a long time, I've considered you someone that wanted to be murdered. No, no, no. No, let me be clear. Do not want to be murdered. He said, no, Rob said he'll always deny it on a podcast,
Starting point is 01:09:01 but he definitely wants to be murdered. Alexa, don't murder me. Alexa, murder Rob Eubel, please. Alexa, put Rob Eubel on my do not murder list. As per his instructions. Alexa. Obviously, we had an opinion about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion.
Starting point is 01:09:21 It is now time for second opinions. Stupid logic, idiotic, that's what critics saying. Great action, super acting. That's what I am seeing. Top that. Top that. I got a second opinion about that. Top that. Stop that. Stop that. Stop that. It's my second opinion. So don't try to stop that.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Where you got? Give it up for Mike. Wow. Good job. Mike with a topped that second opinion theme. Home run from the great film Teen Witch. Teen Witch callback. I will say I did not know where I was going to begin with
Starting point is 01:10:06 and I was really happy. He got more confident as the song went along. Yeah. If that is the power of Teen Witch. If you're having a bad... Alexa, play Teen Witch top that. That was great. Mike, great job.
Starting point is 01:10:24 You should be proud of yourself. Yeah. All right, here we go. I still have a problem with those. shoes. This one is written by Gerholt in 2001. Fake name.
Starting point is 01:10:35 I have a message to all the critics who I'm sure are readying their pins to dump all over this latest installment. Their quill pins. Don't bother. We know the acting will probably be horrible and the story won't be poignant or meaningful
Starting point is 01:10:51 and it doesn't matter. If it's Oscar caliber performance, as you want, go see Captain Corelli's Mandelaan. Whoa. Somebody has to. Alexa, play Captain Correlli's Mandolin. Leave us in our slasher film alone. It doesn't need to make sense
Starting point is 01:11:17 or even tie into part nine. All we need is Jason and his hockey mask and nudity and blood. Wow. And that's it. I've been a fan of Jason since in 1982, and I plan to be here to the bloody end. Pun intended.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Five stars. Signed little Rob Hubel. Baby Hube's. This one is a weird... You want to pass over it? No, no, no. Ten fingers, ten toes. Not enough to count the bodies.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Basically, I watched Jason movies because of the high body count but this movie went too far Oh, wow Jason kills 20 to 25 people and that's not counting the thousands He helped blow up On Solaris
Starting point is 01:12:14 Oh yeah, wow Jason's mind is gone As soon as he sees someone, they're dead It's the best Friday the 13th movie ever Five stars Wait, I thought... Wait, what? That's why it's weird.
Starting point is 01:12:28 It really takes that. The road, like, turned upside down and then he drove his car upside down. Yeah, he was like, I don't like it. His mind is gone. His mind is gone. But his mind is gone, guys. It is interesting because they say
Starting point is 01:12:40 his brain is so small. Yeah. You know, at some point, so, like... But his dick is very big. Okay, Paul. Wait, what... Yeah, why did you focus on that one line? What's that about, Paul?
Starting point is 01:12:53 That's the thing that you took away from this? Well, because I thought it was... There is? I thought it was weird because she said, but his dick is so big and then she grabs. She says she's hung like a mammoth.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Oh, okay, all right. He's hung like a mammoth. Paul, why do you know that? Yeah, Paul. And she says, I bet he's hung like a mammoth. We just decided it's true. And have run with him. But then she grabbed also just look
Starting point is 01:13:14 at his dead, limp dick and find out. There's one way to figure this out. Alexa, how big is Jason Forge's his penis? Which Jason Voorhees? Alexa, how big is a mammoth's penis? This is one of my favorite reviews here from Mr. Bayvine. Mr. Bayvine. One of the guys looked like Lawrence Fishburn,
Starting point is 01:13:39 and I thought he was until I found out he wasn't. For anyone that didn't know the X in Jason X means the tenth one. The actors did a good job, and that one girl actually took the dead guy's gun. guy's gun. I've been wanting someone to keep the guy's weapon every time I watch a horror movie. Overall, I'd say this is the best Friday the 13th ever. Five stars.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Wow. You know, the other thing I just want to ask is, does this movie take place on Friday the 13th? No. No, okay. Because there is no Friday the 13th in space. Right. On Earth, too, they've
Starting point is 01:14:21 outlawed it with hockey. That does make me, it does make me like kind of begs the question, what is Jason? I still haven't gotten an answer for that. Yeah, well, you were going to struggle with that until you die. What is Jason? Do you know? No. He's a shooting star, bro.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Okay, cool. And then, finally, this is a very heavily edited review, like eight, nine paragraphs here from Techno-Machinema 1996, and I'm just going to read the final paragraph. It's pronounced machina. Oh, yeah. Techno-X, but there's no X, so it's Techno-Mock,
Starting point is 01:14:58 it's not even spelled like that. This is before, Mark. Overall, if you're looking for unique sci-fi horror experience, if you like to look at attractive and decidedly sexy people, if you're into Jason and Friday the 13th, but needs something different, if you like super awesome special effects, if you like action, if you like humor,
Starting point is 01:15:19 if you like sex appeal in your horror movies, and you want to see, Jason in a whole new way. Well, then, this movie's definitely for you. Super awesome special effects. Really? What is Jason? Why?
Starting point is 01:15:35 What is Jason? Why when Jason gets, you know, fixed by the ants, does he get turned into, like, Bain? Yeah, why is he so much more, like, ripped and built? Yeah, he's jacked, and he's half-metal, and he's, like, it's like, he gets,
Starting point is 01:15:53 Because the ants fucked him. They all fucked. If you got fucked by ants, you'd be so shab. Oh, so you think that is a decidedly sexual process? Why wouldn't they regenerate his skin? And why would they regenerate his mask? Yeah. Like, because it's nanotechnology.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Just give him a better face. Why were his eyes red? Smoking that weed, bro. Because he is a replicant. Right? The replicants all have red eyes. Oh, is that right? Okay, guys, sorry.
Starting point is 01:16:23 Didn't need to go. crazy with my blade runner knowledge. He looks like like... I also watched that on the... Blab and Rocksteady. Yeah, my Blade Runner hot take. Oh, I said I thought he looked like like Bebop or Rocksteady, like from the
Starting point is 01:16:35 original teenage new Ninja Turtle. With a little bit of cranking because his head's so... I have a question to... I would maybe like say Legends of the Oos more, but let's see... I have a question too. At the very end where those the horny teens see the shooting star
Starting point is 01:16:52 of Jason and Broadse they're on Earth 2. Okay, that's what I want to do. Which is somehow habitable because I was told... Yeah, because we destroyed Earth. Yeah, but I thought all planets were uninhabitable. No, just Earth, regular Earth. I'll edit that out.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Earth 2 is fine. Alexa, is Earth 2 still habitable? Does anyone want to take a swing at what the tagline might be for this? Don't wreck my pants. It is this Halloween meet the perfect 10 in terror. Now, what is interesting about that is, this movie came out April 26th.
Starting point is 01:17:41 And also, wait, I'm sorry. You might just also have to edit this out because it's a genuine question. This movie is not from the Halloween, series either, right? No, no, yeah, yeah. So, okay. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:56 So why are they... Right, right. In terror. Isn't April 26, like Easter? Well, again, that would go with the other good tagline. Resurrection? He's been drowned, chainsawed, knifed, axed, hammered, shocked, burned, spiked, nailed, shot, and frozen.
Starting point is 01:18:12 And now he's back for more. Like, it's, you know, resurrection. Wait, was he in Frozen? Jason? Not a lot of people know. He is the snowman. He is the snowman. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Yeah. This movie came out in 2002. The number, the top three movies that year were Spider-Man, Lord of the Rings, the Two Towers, Star Wars, Episode 2. And the budget was $11 million, and worldwide it made $16 million. It was a profitable film. So we're the dicks. We don't know. We don't know for P&A.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Don't use fucking industry terms on me. Alexa, buy the house on Blu-ray. One-click purchase. Let's see the sales just like, bang right after this episode, like, bam, a huge spike. Let's see. So obviously, we watch these movies because they're like fun, bad movies. And so now let's go around and see, do you believe that this is a fun, bad movie to watch? You don't have to agree to it.
Starting point is 01:19:21 It's your own opinion. Would you recommend people to watch this film if they have not seen it? I will say, watch this movie. Don't watch this movie while you're watching your baby try to go sleep. Because you're listening to people getting murdered
Starting point is 01:19:38 and people screaming while you're watching your baby also scream at you. This is a very niche angle on this. You should have put your iPad in the baby's crib. Then you could be watching. your baby and the movie almost like you're at a drive-
Starting point is 01:19:54 Oh, I should have just- Watching the baby monitor on which is the iPad playing the movie. Yes. Smart. Really smart. And not damaging it all to the baby.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Jason, any, what would you say here? You know, it's fine. There are better, there are better, we've done better the Halloween that we did. Season of the Witch?
Starting point is 01:20:20 Leprechaun. Yeah, we did Season of the Witch. Season of the Witch? That's what it called? Yeah. Okay. Sorry. That or a leprechaun in the hood, right?
Starting point is 01:20:26 That's what the leprecon was. Yeah. Those movies are better. A troll, the troll two. We did not do that, but yes. We've never done it, but that's a good, like, there are better. When's troll two going to happen? What?
Starting point is 01:20:37 Please ask me back for troll two. Oh, yeah, for sure. There are better, like, this is fine and watch it if you want. It's fun. It is very self-aware. It's very goofy. But not enough. Like, it's not enough.
Starting point is 01:20:48 It's neither nor. that's the thing is it's a bit neither nor if you don't watch it I think you're fine I don't think it's not like it's not like it's Miami Connection which every single Alexa purchase Miami Connection
Starting point is 01:21:02 that movie is like the greatest and this is kind of like blah if I'm being honest yeah Jenny I would say it's worth it for one thing which is that the costume designer truly put
Starting point is 01:21:20 everyone, almost everyone in some sort of velour vest or belly shirt. Belly shirt. Yeah, the costume designer is really the person to look out for. I feel like that is, it is really wonderful. They made a real attempt to
Starting point is 01:21:36 provide futuristic tech and all that stuff, but they just assumed that everybody in 400 years in the future will dress like people in 2002. Yeah, like real Chenille kind of stuff. I really, it's great for that
Starting point is 01:21:52 and if you like to smoke weed. But I would say it was, I mean, I'm like, it was a little bit gross. You know? Yeah, to me, I would say, like, I find it to be like the same way. I was like, eh, it was fine. Yeah, it's fine.
Starting point is 01:22:06 It's a, it's a movie. There's other movies we talked about in the beginning, other horror movies that went to space were Hellraiser, Leprocon, and Critters. So maybe we just do four of these and just figure out what's the best person in space. I think a better version of this movie would have been the whole,
Starting point is 01:22:22 if the whole thing had been, or no, at the midpoint of the movie, if it had switched to the sim of Crystal Lake. Like, once they got into that, I thought like, oh, that's the movie. Like, that's the thing. I mean, not with the girls, like,
Starting point is 01:22:36 we love premarital sex, but, I mean. It would have been interesting to have to have the people on the ship act like they were in a summer camp, like on an old earth. A full circle. They don't know what it is. So they're having to do it
Starting point is 01:22:50 in order to lure Jason out or that would have been fun. Are you listening to this fucking farmer? Take a note. You're too busy on farmers only.com. Just dating himself. He's always liking himself. Ding dong.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Oh, it's me. A big thank you to Averyl Halley who cuts all of our amazing clips. July Diaz, who's up in the booth. Nate Kylie does all this research and listen to the Jason X commentary track into copious notes. Kelly Alto, Leanna Waldron, everybody here at Largo,
Starting point is 01:23:22 everybody at Earwolf. Thank you so much and good night.

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