How Did This Get Made? - John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars LIVE! w/ Nick Kroll

Episode Date: October 31, 2025

A movie with flashbacks within flashbacks within flashbacks?! HDTGM all-star Nick Kroll returns to help Paul, Jason, & our space expert June Diane Raphael break down the 2001 sci-fi horror film John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars starring Ice Cube, Natasha Henstridge, & a pre-bald Jason Statham. LIVE from Largo in L.A. they discuss the oxygen goggles, Big Daddy Mars' low boobs, if the Martians come from orca whales, flying a hot air balloon on Mars, the super slow train, Clea Duvall's beheading via circular saw blade, Ice Cube's Leeroy Jenkins moment, and so much more. Plus, June tells us about her recent encounter with a Geostorm and her struggle with shower loneliness. • We're coming to Philadelphia on 11/8! Go to hdtgm.com for tix, merch, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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And hello people of Earth Welcome to How Did This Get Made We are live in Los Angeles to talk about a movie that is very hard to say because it's got double plurals in it. John Carpenter's ghosts of Mars, as if there's been other ghosts of Mars to distinguish it.

You know, they say in space, no one can hear you scream. In this film, no one can hear you scream because they couldn't afford extras. Movie came out 2001, to 23% on the tomato meter and oh, 25% on the audience score. Now, you might be like,

well, I didn't watch it. What is this movie about? Well, let me tell you. It is a movie that takes place in 2176 when a Martian police unit is sent to pick up a highly dangerous criminal at a remote mining planet. Upon arrival, the cops find that the post

has become a charnel house. What is that? IMDB, what's a char-an? Anyone know what a charnel-houses? Oh, wow, IMD-B fucking, I just say fucking Martians are there. I don't... Charnel House. Well, thank you. Charnel House. That's really the best description of this movie. It leaves you wanting. Like, you could have said a million other things.

Charnel House, that actually, probably the best description of a movie ever, or this movie. We're going to break it all down. I mean, we're going to take it all down. I mean, we're going to take you through every moment of this film in order unlike the film a movie that has flashbacks within flashbacks that's the way

you do it now to break down this movie I have to introduce my co-host please welcome to the stage Mr. Jason Manzoukis What's up, jerks! Yeah! Let's go!

Welcome, Jason. We're back in Largo. We are back in Largo to talk about a movie that takes place in a charnel house. Holy shit. What the... What even the fuck was this? This is a movie Maybe the first movie we've ever done

That has flashbacks Inside of flashbacks Inside of other characters Flashbacks This shit is fucking impossible A movie that makes the bold move to do A Dissolve as two characters walk Two feet down a hallway

At some point Someone was like gotta make it quicker They didn't even move down the hall They just moved two feet faster. Incredible stuff. This was, I mean, and I think I can say this, the very first time for the podcast that I've watched a movie on the Criterion Channel.

It is. This movie is on Criterion right now. I want to break down possibly why that is, but I need everyone out here to see their reaction. So let's bring out another fan of ghosts and John Carpenter

Please welcome Ghost of John Carpenter The sequel Please welcome June Diane Raphael Welcome June How are you? I'm well How are you, Paul?

I'm well And you know June I just have to bring it up Before we even start the show been a big fan of you on 9-1-1, because you are obsessed. We were talking about it backstage, obsessed. You are in 911, if you've not been watching, in a geostorm. That's correct.

Not like a geostorm. You are in a geostorm. They say geostorm, and you are in it. And I just have to say, okay, I'm going to be so for real right now. I've heard you, I was not on the geostorm. episode, I wasn't at that show, and I, I know it became a big thing within the community. And I have to be... I don't like thinking about the community. Disconnected discourse.

I have to say, and I'm not afraid to be vulnerable right now, and honest, I never knew what it was. Wow. And I, I knew people would shout it out at us. We shouted it at Jason when we saw him at a cafe. shouted it from our minivan. Oh, and I didn't know it was them. And they did it for minutes. A long time. Somebody fucking behind me is really pissing me off.

Forced you to turn around. We were the most annoying fans of you. It was amazing. So what's so wild is to now understand what it is and to actually be such a big part of it. You know, and to have to contend with it in the way that I do. We talked about a geostorm. You live through a geostrom. Thank you.

I would argue that if. If anything deserves to be like a second look at, it's Geostorm with June on the episode. Oh, that's interesting. I'd be happy to do it. Sometimes people ask us, would you cover a movie again or something like that? I think the only way to do it is if you were not there and we just need those eyeballs on it. Well, I will say, Paul really hurt my feelings, Jason, because I said, I was telling, I know. I was telling him about my work on the show and I said, I'm going to be a macronaut.

it's sort of like a what was that the Katie Perry it was that called Blue Origin it's sort of like that and I said it's really great and then Paul saw the preview

and he goes you're in a geostorm and I said I guess I am and he goes that's why they cast you I didn't say it like that I didn't say it like that oh they're hoping to get that

how did this get made Bump. They wanted the community. The most popular show on TV. I just is saying that if you're making it... You said that's why they cast you. And I said, well, I think my body of work speaks for itself. But I...

Yes. True. Thank you, community members. Now, without any further ado, we've made our triumphant return to Largo, and we could not do it without a true... How did this get made All-Star? You know this gentleman from his tremendously

amazing body of work that includes shows like Big Mouth and the league. Please welcome Mr. Nick Kroll! Boo! Boo! Welcome. Welcome. Welcome back. Nick. Am I?

You are... Mike's not on. Wait, let's see. If it's not on here, I got a backup mic over here. Let's see we can give you that. All right, how's that work? Good.

Nice. Sorry, I was just talking about the Riyadh comedy festival. By the way, you were great. I got to watch your set. Thank you. I bought the pay-per-view of the whole event. It was really fun.

It was so funny. Heads were rolling. Oh. I'm back, baby. Ghosts of Mars, a movie that I watched twice. What? Yeah, because at one point I was like, am I missing something? I wonder that every movie we do.

And I think kind of yes and kind of no, and I want to answer this thing. Jason said he watched it on the Criterion channel, right? You can get that on the app. It's a great service. I love it. I didn't know movies like this. I thought... I'm just as shocked as you were.

Okay, I didn't know. Well, you might be surprised. Well, fun fact, that Luca Guadino, the director of challengers, call me by your name, included John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars on his New York Times list of the 10 best movies of the 21st century.

What are you talking about? Just want to throw it out there. Because that's genuinely heartbreaking. It's an, It's an odd one, and I found that in my little bit of research, it's a movie that people really go to bat for, and then other people are like, I am severing ties with you because of this opinion.

What could those people be saying? I mean, here's... There's nothing to go to bat for. Well, there is certain... I feel like this movie gets maybe a pass from people, simply because at the very least, it's a John Carpenter movie. But how do you know that it's a John Carpenter movie?

Because my guy's going to tell you every time you look at the title. We got to make sure that people do not get confused. This is John Carpenter's, Ghost of Mars. I'm always wary of movies where they drop a bunch of exposition before I know I'm supposed to pay attention. I'm like, oh, wait, I didn't hear any of that. I just watched that and now, and then I went back and rewound it, and yes, it's 2176,

Mars has been terraformed, and it has a matriarchal society, which doesn't seem to play into much of anything else in the film. But the panel... It's all women. It's all women, so... There you go.

Check, done. We did it. Yeah, there is... And the movie, you know, the movie starts off like all great space movies. Techno music and a train. The train. I guess I'd like to start with the train if that's okay.

And I'm just going to jump to the end real quick because I was amazed. Yep, that's right, right. There's so many flashbacks within flashbacks within flashbacks. It's hard to kind of keep track of where we were. But at the point where we really need that train to move.

Like we got to get the fuck out of there. I'm like, wow. And this future, we've, we have the technology to go to Mars, but we don't have the technology to make trains go faster than four miles an hour. None of the transportation moves faster than I'm going to say a bird scooter. Yes. Like everything, when they are, when they finally manage to get in the transport and all they need to do is drive to the train, it should be like, boom, but they are easily swarmed

by slow-moving zombies? Can I just say something? Because I just was in space, Nick. If you'll allow me. No, I wanted your expert opinion on this. If I could be a woman on a panel for a second. I, I, I, I, I, I, everything was moving so slowly in the transportation that I did think is this a gravity issue? Is this, are we not able to push for some reason?

Well, this is a gravity issue that would allow a train to move slow, but a hot air balloon to stay on track. No problem. Also, hot air balloon on Mars. Yes. I loved that. I loved it. I'm also having so much trouble figuring out

when do they need breathing help and when do they not need breathing help? That was a, they explained that early on, right? With one sentence and then. They say something about the oxygen, oxygen goggles. Let's see here. I can play the little clip here. Oxygen goggles does sound like a box.

I was going to say, oxygen goggles. Rookies, use your breathers. We're not going to have air like Earth for ten more years. Let's go. Ten more years? And the goggles are... They don't cover the nose. Right?

They just call the glasses breathers. Yes. The glasses are breathers. Come on now. And this is all they kind of say is like... You'll get used to it. Two years of. we were still wearing full face breathers.

Yeah, it takes about a month and get over the headaches out here. Yeah. I mean, what? I just think to, why did the breathers just stay over the eyes? Just give me a little thing

over the nose, give me, you know, anything. Well, I guess, June, as someone, again, I'm, who has spent a lot of time at this point in space. Go ahead. Is it possible that more oxygen

has passed through the eyeballs and eye sockets? It's interesting. through the respiratory natural, what we would think of as respiratory system. Yeah, I mean, as far as I know the eyes are, they're an opening to the body, so it's a good question.

Are the tear ducts connected to your lungs at all? Yeah, that's such a good question. I'm sure you could breathe through your eyes in the future. True. You know? I have a related question, June. What's up? If you ever brush your teeth in the shower

and you get a little toothpaste on your finger and then you mistakenly rub your eye, Do you think the eye tastes the mint? I don't know about that, but you can smell through your eyes. I know that. There you go. So that's why it's the breather. I think only lunatics brush their teeth in the shower.

By the way, I totally agree. I never been on board with that. I didn't understand it. I don't get it all the time. Really? I smoke cigars in there. Well, you, I mean, you are talking to a person who has decorated our shower to be less lonely.

I get lonely in there. And to me it's a long time to spend with your own thoughts. So I was on a very strange TikTok algorithm about just like people who struggle with, and I'm very hygienic, but struggle with that time. Shower loneliness? Another Bob Dukkah Malady. It was a very strange wormhole I was in. But a lot of people suggested bringing people.

bringing plants in and then and then I found a small lamp a lamp and I realized I can put a candle in here and so now I have a lamp a lovely little lamp on a shelf and then I built another shelf there's a candle on some crystals some crystals yeah some crystals a billy crystal standing all I do is bump into things in the shower I am Anytime I lift my arm I'm knocking over shelves lamps are falling on me I have been

My movement is constricted I have to It does sound like a very crowded shower I literally Raised my hand the other day And punch that shelf so hard I was like ah Now I'm hurt in the shower

Do you listen to anything in the shower? Yes I do listen to my podcast friends Of course Okay You listen to your own podcast Yes. To the sounds of Jessica Sinclair, Jason Mansuchis. Here's the thing I'll say about this movie.

Yeah, the breathers, whatever. I'm more concerned on why Natasha Hendritch wears a nice sweater that gets... It looks like she wakes up as a catalog model. She has just been in knife fights with ghost humans. Mutants? I don't know. Something. She has the smallest...

Nick on her neck like as if she was shaving and and yet her sweater is pristine and she seems to not have any real gear on top of it sometimes the sweater's on sometimes she's wearing a jacket but that sweater is more of a long sleeve tea yeah yes then a mottor a mock turtle neck yeah I mean I what I wanted to really know about her was what drug is she taken yes clear that clear oh is that what it's called clear I have it here listed as TSA pre worth it that was pretty good

she is weirdly kind of dressed like a clear employee right yeah she feels formal but she's not wearing a uniform and I like that I would love to know what

Paul can you tell me if you have it in there how many years is this from the movie aliens well this movie is so heavily 2001 what yeah

Yeah, this is one this movie came out. This movie came out in the 2000s? 2001. This movie came out in August 2001. Yes. It's fair to say it's responsible for 9-11. I think so. They saw it and they were like, that's it.

We got to go in there. We got to shake shit up. They've reached the pinnacle of their culture. Everything was going fine on those flights, but they played this movie on the in-flight. We expected more from John Carpenter. I will say that there's a time period between 2000 and 2010

that I feel like we can't accept movies on this podcast came out during that decade. It's never not absolutely shocking. This movie felt, I genuinely felt like you were going to say, like this movie came out in 1987. Well, I also will say, you know,

as a bald man, I'm always watching bald people how they've made their choices. And what a great choice for Jason Statham to be like, no, no, no. Get this fucking peach fuzz out of here. I got a shame. this dome because it does not

that kind of ball does not look good. It's so rare to see him with that much hair so much so that you see it thinning. You know, you're like, oh wow, there it is. Oh yeah, he's a man that is going bald. Like it is, a lot of it is left town. It's also

his first on-screen kiss. So, you know, he's getting close. And that's because you keep that, you still keep that website? I keep a website called first kiss and last ball. So, it's before you go full ball. And first kiss last bald is, it's a beautiful website.

It's bonfire of the vanity. I wish this became the future of Jump the Shark. It's one of those, you know what I mean? It's one of those first kiss last balds where... When they went to space, it was totally first kiss last ball. But this cast is like all of my favorite people. Bangers. Like 100%.

And none of them seem to be excited to be there ultimately. I did read an interesting fact that this was written as a sequel to escape from New York, escape from L.A. And this would be escape from Mars. But I did almost zero research to be told by someone else who did research that that is not true. Oh, good. I'm glad. Well, there we go. Blank check.

Blank check said it was not true. That's who I heard it on. Because I was trying to do research to do this podcast. And you're listening to the Blank Check podcast? Yeah, it's so great. You're a blankie? I'm sorry if I could do this. You guys at a home, I mean, you guys here in the theater, you're stuck here.

But if you're listening to this podcast at home, go check out the blank check podcast. Wait a second. Wait a second. Take on goes to ours. If you're going to listen to maybe the used car episode. Yeah, yeah. Jason and I are on that. That's a good one.

but if you like to use car episode check out their blank check episode like the episode about blank check the movie

blank check yeah I will say Ice Cube is dressed like snake he's wearing the same black top

I thought you were going to say but Ice Cube is he's grace under fire in this movie this is I mean

and I do feel like this movie the characters I love are so dumb And I think that that's why I don't like them at all because they walk into this town

that is so aggressively a ghost town. Like there's no signs of life. And they're like, oh, people must be partying on the inside of these buildings. Like, no. They are a military unit. They are the police, rather. They are all kidded out.

They don't show any tactical acumen whatsoever. They don't have a plan. They don't know what. They never make a plan. They are free. restyling at every turn and every single one of them dies, except

for Natasha Hensrich, right? Yes. Who is, I guess her secret weapon is being super high. Yes. Which, in that moment, give everybody those drugs. Yes. Well, it's weird because she doesn't, but that's not even her superpower

because Jason Statham gives them to her and like stuffs it down her mouth. Oh, right. Yes. She doesn't think to do that and they don't think to take them for themselves. Nope, they just put it in her mouth and then lock her outside. But then the other thing is

to your point, Paul, about how dumb people are, how dumb this unit is. Even long after they've figured out that if they kill someone who's got a ghost inside of them, the ghost exits and goes into someone else, probably one of them. Yeah, well, whoever's in front of them. They still are just killing people.

They're just killing people letting all the ghosts loose. Contain them. Contain the ghosts, that's it. Well, but they are in a hard, they're sort of between a rock and a hard place, Jason, because if they don't kill them,

they will be killed by them. Well, no. Clea Duvall kills that man who is in a cell. He's not doing anything. And then she's like, I got to shoot this guy, which is true police brutality.

Like, in that moment, maybe there's a remedy, maybe there's a cure. He was not doing it. and he wasn't almost out. And then when they say, like, why did you do that? She's like, fuck this guy. Fuck him.

She goes, fuck this guy. Crazy. I also, I texted Clea Duvall. Did you? Oh, wow. So I did a lot. What I'm saying is I did a ton of prep for this. Wow, you got in a lot of, yeah.

And I watched almost half the movie. She said, she had a blast making it. Two months in the desert. Great. John Carborder didn't like to shoot early, didn't like to get going before 11. They said that, yeah, he required night shoots because he's a night person. Yeah. And so when they were shooting nights and it was night out, that made sense.

But then when they moved back to L.A., he's like, we're going to keep that night schedule. We're on sets. He's like, I'm a night person. Well, he did the music, and music business people tend to be night. They really like to make their night owls, right? Yeah, he did do the music on this movie. Oh, he does the music on all of his life. Yes, and he called in like a crazy crew of people to like help him out from like anthrax and guns and roses and buckethead, you know, like, and the cars.

Like he had, he brought. Here's what I'll say. John Carpenter still tours. I believe he's playing here in a couple. Or did he just play? Yeah. Is it just? Okay.

So like these are iconic soundtracks and to see him play them live is bananas. So it's great. He's even made soundtracks for movies that he hasn't made. Let me ask a question about the ghost. It sounds like a. joke but it's true. Let me ask a question about the ghosts for a second to the group, to the panel. The ghost of Mars?

Is it the ghosts of Mars or the ghost of Mars? No, ghosts. It's John Carpenter's ghosts of Mars. I still don't know what the answer was. Is there an S or not? Is it a plural or no? A plural.

It's multiple ghosts. It's a possessive and a plural. Yeah, John Carpenter's Because they belong to him. Yes. They're not his ghost. But is it... John Carpenter's ghost...

Of Mars? Or is it John Carpenter's ghosts of Mars? As if the of Mars belong to the ghosts. Like, so ghosts... Oh. I mean, this is something... Maybe that's why Luca Guadino likes it so much. Just...

There's so many questions. Well, I guess this is... does go to my question because I didn't know ultimately we find out that the scientists with the spiky hair who arrived via weather balloon was...

When the weather balloon blows up, by the way, they, I guess they shot it once and like, can we just like loop it back? Like they rewind it and fast forward it to make it look longer. Like, bloop, bloop, bloop. So she let go of, she found that tunnel

and opened the Pandora's box. The tunnel that seemed like it was very nicely designed also, just like had a nice aesthetic to it. Did she say, but she opens a tunnel that just it is beautiful, it looks nice but it's like, not human made.

Yeah, it looks human made. It looks pretty human. That was the thought I had. I was like, wow, aliens are just like us. Except that when they talk, it sounds like rabble-la-brab-la-blab-la-la-blah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Okay, so that's my question,

actually, Jason. What is this language? I don't know, and I actually, my interpretation and my reading was that actually, because we did get to see, I think, we saw the ghost point of view in the red ghost cam. Yeah, yeah. And where we got to follow, we got to be, it felt like we were a ghost cam. I don't know about you, but I felt chills. Is it a ghost cam, or is it red because they've ripped off people's faces and the blood from the skin of the faces? Oh.

Well, that's in the movie. I'm not being gross. I assumed it was red because the mist is red. And the red, isn't Mars the red planet? Mars is the red planet. I know that from some of my work in the solar system. No spoilers. I, what I felt when we were in the ghost cam that it was rather peaceful and the, the, the length.

It wasn't moving so frantically. We were kind of tracking and smooth movements. But then when we saw the humans possessed by the ghost, they were acting a fool. They were crazy chaos monsters. Filing their teeth. No, no, I don't even. I actually can't talk about what. No, Jason, I can't talk about what they were doing.

I can't talk about what they were doing. How did they find so many files? They were also. But it felt like, it felt. I mean, I guess it's. It's a mining colony. I felt like they were... They were piercing cheeks.

They were still human. I hate them so much. But it didn't feel like that was the ghost. Right. The ghosts... That's not the ghost. The ghosts take over these miners. Hundreds and hundreds of miners.

So many miners. The ghosts take them over. But yes, I agree with what June is. the sentiment, which is, why did the ghosts, we never see, do we ever see, I don't think, representation of the Martians of the past, right? No. No. So are we to assume that the filing of the teeth? We do?

In Natasha Hinch, when, in her flashback, when she takes the drug, I feel she goes in, you get a, you get it their story a little bit. You don't think she's seeing the, you see the form, and the form doesn't not look like the, Because the ghosts have, the ghosts. We do have, we can watch and see if we can. By the way, this is a masturbation. I guess it is a sweater, Paul. It is a sweater.

This is exclusively a masturbation. All right, so we're saying. So there is, this was when they were pirates and conquistadors. So hot. So hot. What was that? What was that? What was that?

Fish people. That was fish people. Oh, that looks like a shark. That looked like a shark. What? Oh, yeah. They look like there's some fish people in here. Can we frame by frame this?

Oh, yeah, that's a fish person. That was just a Martian. That was an alien. That was for sure Abe Sapien. This was. Yeah, that's what I was saying. I believe this is the fish man from the shape of water's first movie. Oh, yeah.

Also, also Abe Sabian. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that looked like a cat, an orca. There's definitely an or a horse. In a orca in there. That's an orca. That's a shark. That's an orca.

That's a shark. Or a orca. That's orca, yeah. What is happening? And Mars notably does not have a lot of water. And doesn't it seem like this is what she's thinking about while she jerks off? Yeah. Orca.

Oh, orca. Oh, lizard guy. All the water. All the water. All the water. All the wave. What's interesting is. why did the Martians have such a memory of water

on a waterless planet? Is it just that that's how old it is? Probably. Yeah, I mean... Because fucking, Jason, when back in the day, Mars was all water, and when it exploded,

all of the orcas got shot to Earth. And I think you're right, Nick. Leaving just the red clay behind. fucking idiot Wow Wow You know what This is why

I'm glad you listen to blank check Because this is kind of the facts that we need it We don't get fact checked enough And now we get it I will say this You know we get away with too much

Nick Nick thank you for coming on the show And setting us straight Talking some orca truth I will say The big leader which, you know, is out of body proportion from everyone else, where did he come from?

Like, did he just be like, just a minor, right? A giant ass minor? Everyone else is like a human. He's like, I'll find this weird fucking creature and I'll be him. I think that's got to be it. What other reason is there? That guy is an alien. He's got to be.

If we see a picture of his chest, Paul, it seems like he has. low boobs. Well, what he's got, what num, what, what, he, I believe he has like a human jaw, but they all have, they're all wearing parts of other people

which make them seem like, um, uh, like there's the woman who has hands as a bra, right? Some other person's hands are, right? Oh, it's very like a call. Like a nod to Janet Jackson's in the cycle. Can I? Can I?

Okay. Can I say if I were one of them, I would have taken Pam Greer's boobs and made him my own? Yes. You can say that. You can say that. I don't like you looking at me so intensely and like holding eyes saying it, but you can say it. By the way, Pam Greer killed off screen. A major character.

We don't see her death. We're just kind of left to be like, what happened. And then all of a sudden we just watch her head just be put on a pike, which apparently was, done practically into much pain of Pam Greer. Wait, she actually had to get beheaded? Well, they built a very special rig for her

and it was apparently incredibly painful, but they were able to create all the other heads next to her for no... See, here's the thing, there's certain choices, there were a couple choices that are made in this movie that I absolutely loved. And I loved

that we didn't see her death. I loved that we had to paint a picture for ourselves based on her final expression in a resting place, which was I laughed so hard that her face was it was so funny.

Did you, she was hitting on Natasha Hendritch, right? Yeah, right. She was sexually harassing her. And that's why, thank you. That's why the commentary on like, oh, it's a matriarchal society was tough for me because I felt like they were trying to say, like,

you guys are just as fucked up. Right. And I was like, well, clearly, these women didn't solve the problem of ghosts of Mars. They just let it happen. Yeah, that's what happens in a matriarchy. The ghosts take over all the gigantic mutant miners. At the end of the court case, the person's like, I guess we just say what? There were ghosts on Mars?

Guilty. when the guy when the guy chopped his own thumb off trying to open the can that scene in the movie I was like what on earth are we on to was that because he took his like

his like nitrous yes yeah then he also blew himself up with a hand grenade but I thought that like yes he had the nitrous but I also thought he was just trying to impress somebody and just messed up like I feel like when you were a kid didn't you ever try to do that

thing that they did in aliens or you put the knife between your fingers and stuff like that. I just feel like he was trying to... Wait, I feel like you were setting yourself up for a story. Do you do that? I mean, yeah, I did it. But like... I got all five. But it was...

I had one of those... Those knives that had, like, the retractable blade. So he did that a lot at lunch. And then, you know, and you would even hit yourself more often than not. I'll tell you that much. Because he would have no fear with the retractable blade, and you're like, well, I can do it now. You can't. I couldn't understand the ghosts rules. In my mind, ghosts can go anywhere. Sure. These ghosts are bound by the physical world. They can't go through doors. They can't go through doors. They can't go through bars.

Neither can orcas. Like, my question was, like, at one point, one of the ghosts gets loose, right, in the, in the, in the, when they're in the jail. in the structure rather and the ghost could go into anybody and it goes into one of the guys in a prison cell and I'm like this ghost is a fucking idiot because now all this guy does

is peel his own skin off in a prison cell like why not take over any of the good people who are outside with guns? Jason who are you to judge who the best host for the ghost is? Ghost host Ghost toast

I do believe that What I like about the aliens Is like Is we will infect you And then we'll destroy your body Because we feel like you are a piece of shit Like I like that energy Can we talk about the allegory of this

That is Is it an allegory For like Al Gorey Yeah That former vice president This is 2001 He's just lost He's just lost Bush v.

Gore Yep And what is Al-Gori... What's the Al-Goree element to this? Listen, it's an inconvenient truth at these miners. Absolutely. We had to move to Mars. There's a lot of hanging...

There's a lot of hanging checks on those posts. Well, there seems to be some sort of... But it's not... I can't quite get the moral of it, which is like if you invade, if you try to take dominion over, someone else's land then

I guess that's it right they'll get you they'll get you back right because I mean I do think it I do think that there are some Native American themes in this like not like not put out

fully in front but I feel like that's like what they're going for in a way but then it's like but the moral is like that like they're like they're going to be shitty about it once like it doesn't make any like you don't quite get what are they saying. Well, at the end, they're basically like,

Mars isn't theirs anymore. It's ours. Yeah. Wait a minute. Did like the bad guys, I think, are winning. I'm rooting for the ghosts. But also, it seems like when they got to Mars, they were all dead.

It wasn't like we got to Mars. We killed all them. And then we started trying to turn it for me. It was like, we got to Mars. It was a dead planet. And then the ghosts are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we're still here. We're ghosts.

Respect us. We're just in search of corporal. Yeah, I do think that that's the interesting part of the moral question mark because they are ghosts after all. They're not, they couldn't enjoy the resources of this planet if they want to. Right. They'd still be in that tunnel, that very nicely designed tunnel. They're floating around or even if they got out and there's no bodies. It seems like they're in some sort of like crypt or like.

Like, underground, like, have they been trapped? Or, like, what's the... What is this? Well, you see, all right, here's my lore that I've been writing on Reddit about it. There were, there was a species on Mars that encountered this very violent tribe of people. And they're like, they condemn them to this underground tomb. And they were like, lock it away because these are bad people. But then these dummies from Earth come and they're like, what this?

tomb open it up and then they let it out again so they are repeating it's like oh the people already solved it for you but you're opening it up right there those ghosts are stuck in there in that tomb they got to wait for somebody to fall I think you're right

I absolutely think you're right I'm just upset that the ghosts didn't obey ghost rules you know I mean like I don't think they're really ghosts in that sense they weren't they weren't like going through stuff they just I do think you're right because that one ghost,

we met a couple of prisoners in the holding cell, and all of them are interesting characters. And when we're in the ghost cam, he does, or he or she, does decide to take the body of the least interesting guy. Yeah. You know, I was like, I want to see. But they're wind, right? I think they're just fine whoever.

They're just going to the front. They're just going like, who's in front? No, there's a number of occasions where they go. and it's almost like a Goldilocks. Yeah, it's like, not you. That's in that scene. Not quite right. But then why does the ghost, why does she vomit out the ghost?

Like, does the ghost like, oh, you're too high? I think the ghost didn't like all the drugs. The ghosts are anti-drug. Yeah, they're straight edge. They're straight edge. Didn't you notice everybody when the ghost took them over at X's on their hands? They're all straight-edge. They're all going to hardcore shows.

Okay, but that's actually, it is interesting. because it does seem like I don't know if you're possessed by a ghost if you're not possessed by a ghost like everybody seems to be on drugs though so it was interesting like why what is she taking

but by the way you looking right at me I did not keep her those drugs I mean I will tell you that she she said that she improvised that this is from it's a major plot point

but you know Natasha you guys did level one together at UCB right she's always coming up with things that people then want to they um she said it's a combo of acid and ecstasy and I feel like everyone is saying like you are fucking wasted and I can't see a more like she seems like absolutely present like yeah she doesn't look like lucid 10 hours last night like yeah she looked ready to go doesn't look beaten down in the leaf. And when she suffers injuries, they look great.

It's just like a little cut here and a little cut here. Otherwise, she looks great. Meanwhile, Clea Duvall's out here getting beheaded by someone who threw like a circular sawblade at her. I think multiple people get beheaded

because someone frisbees a circular sawblade at them and they're like, head gone, goodbye. So quickly. like no resistance at all. I will say that if we're talking about props, Scott, our producer, found this prop

of giant film reel and some lights. Yeah. So at one point, maybe there was a movie studio on Mars as well. They seem to be walking. Well, no, this is where they fake the moon landing. I will say in this movie that takes place on Mars

that when they say his name, they're like, whoa, he's a bad dude. It's like, you know about this. guy who's been accused of murder three times and gotten off because of self-defense. Seems to me like that wouldn't be the top of the food chain of bad guys. Like, oh, self-defense. And that's why I, what I needed, the only thing I needed, other words, it's a perfect movie. The only thing I needed was a little bit more of an understanding of like why, what's our main

character's name? Oh, our main character's name? It is, it's Melanie. Melanie, by the way, I will say the audience all got it wrong, too. A lot of different names out there. Melanie Ballard. I needed to understand why she needed to keep him under her dominion. Why not leave him?

Why do you care? Because she knows that he's wrongly accused. And she says that to him. She says, like, look, I'm going to bring you back because that's my job, but I don't think you did it. But she still insists that she's going to bring him. back. Yes, when he handcuffs her at the end, which I was like, this is so strange. He pulls her arm so far at what? I'm like, at some point, she has to be like, what are you doing? Why am I agreeing to this?

Meanwhile, she has her gun right here with the other hand. Easily, easy, easy, easy. What's the point of this? I guess the thing that confounds me, though, is the world is ending around her. Like, we've got bigger alien fish to fry. The ghosts of Mars are here. Yeah. I mean, they also set off a nuclear device.

They blew up a nuclear. So wait, okay, I had a question. The tribunal, right? That is also on Mars. And that's matriarchal. Yes. Yes. I'm sorry.

Like, I would say that the matriarchal tribunal. It's like, say that that's in New York and this is probably happening in California. Like, that's what I feel like is. But it's all on Mars. Yeah. Yes. So, I mean, they don't even mention it. Like, you set off a multiple-ton nuclear explosion on the planet we currently reside on as a matriarchy.

They don't even ask her about it. I mean, I think that she makes some very odd choices. Like, when Jason Statham is like, yeah, brought you in here to, like, fucking hit on you, and she's like, cool, I like it. I'm like, what, when did that happen? Oh, at one point, she, we're in her flashback for most of the movie because she's telling the story to the tribunal. Inside of her flashback, we go into Jason Statham's flashback. Which is a talent.

Where he's talking about, he sees Pam Greer's head, and then he finds the guys who are looking for Cube in the shed. At which point, we go into Cube's brother's flashback. We are four flashbacks deep currently from the reality, which is the present tense scene is only ever the tribunal. And I think the way that they justify. that is because at one point she's like, I only know what they told me. So I feel like she's like, yeah, and so, well, we were in there,

Jason Stason was out, out there, and he sees her head, and he's like, what? But what's so interesting is that, you know, I was talking to Ice Cube, and his brother, really interesting backstory on him. He, like, she's like telling a real, right, like, yeah, but where were you? No, hold on.

So when he was young, he had a tricycle. It was really cool tricycle. It would be amazing if it was revealed that, like, what's it called usual suspects at the end she's made the whole story up oh my god she rips off her blonde face like she's filed all of her teeth down

and she's like I'm a man we beat you I genuinely I genuinely I'm a matriarchal society yes yes are you leaving I'm gonna get out of

here. I'm going to go to the audience. I'm going to see what the audience has to say. And I have some gifts for the audience as well. We have some great people out here tonight. All right. Uh, Jafar is here and Jafar is in costume. So again, oh, great work Jafar. Amazing. Amazing. With the hand bra. Oh, yeah. Incredible. Full great costume here. Amazing costume. Job well done. All right. So what do you want to bring to the table? You have a lot of good stuff. So once again, I watched all of the special features on the DVD. Thank you.

A lot of great stuff. So John Carpenter says the reason he made in a matriarchal society was literally just because he wanted to set up Natasha Hensridge and Pam Greer making out at some point. And he thought he would have an easier time convincing everyone if it was like part of the ethos of the universe that they were in. Smart. It's a fucking, it's a chess. match. Yep, yep. But the only kiss, right?

The only kisses between her and Satham, right? Yeah, yeah. But they have, like, the sexual tension thing. They might have filmed more, I don't know. Get it together. And then,

and then the other thing is Natasha Hensredge was actually cast, like, a week before they started shooting, and her role was originally going to be played by Courtney Love, who was... Oh, yeah.

I kind of love that. Interesting. Courtney loved that. Same Zies, yeah. But the reason she wasn't able to is because her boyfriend at the time ran over her foot with a Volvo. And so she had to pull out at the last second

and then they called in Natasha Hensstrich. That's a terrible thing to have happened. I mean, a real failure of the pull-out method. That's probably the worst thing that's happened at Courtney Love in a relationship. Definitely. Definitely. Can't imagine anything else. And the fact that we know it was a Volvo

is somehow so much not. She was dating like a local professor from like a small liberal arts college. She was visiting Phillips Exeter. Why was he in a Volvo? He's driving like a boxy maroon Volvo. All right. What do we got over here? I'm going to lean over to me.

Okay, perfect. Hi. What's her name? Hi. My name's Amy. I just wanted to point out that in the credits, the scary, like, white-faced Martian guy was called Big Daddy

Mars. I just wanted to see if that's an apt name or form. I love Big Daddy Mars. That's what I think is like the host, the ghost knew that he was the host with the most.

Yes. And so I think that was the leader ghost and he was like, that's Big Daddy Mars. For sure. I'm going to get myself over there. It seemed like... I'm going to slide right into his ear. Maybe Big Daddy Mars had been the leader when they were corporeal in the past, maybe.

Correct. Oh, definitely. And then he found the biggest miner. You believe that big miner for me. I'm Big Daddy Mars! Have you guys watched that reality show, Biggest Miner? I have... I watched a documentary about it,

and it was actually really terrible what they did to those minors. They made them so small. Some of them are back being minors. now. Or she's not being minors. Hi, hi. What's your name? What's your question? Ryan, when they were at

the ghost rally and the big daddy was swinging the sword, were those just the beheadings or was something else going on there? I was really unclear. Yes, it was beheadings. Okay. All right. Why do they want to put so many heads on sticks? They're hanging people up from the ceiling.

Like, that's a lot of work, a lot of energy, a lot of effort. It is. And that's why I have to, I continue to question these ghosts because... What do they want? It's like that's more, that's so extra of them. Like, if they're just trying to get from host

to host, like, why that fan there? I think, aren't they saying at the end, like, oh, they see us as like a disease here and they're trying to wipe us out kind of thing, right? Again, that's fine, but why put our heads all facing in the same direction?

I agree. What's Well, because I don't think they fully, I feel like they've integrated with humanity in certain ways. So they are these, they are these ghosts have taken this human form, but they've still integrated some human, human behaviors into their. Like, like, beheadings? Beheadings and stakes. Wow, they've really taken the worst of us, huh? This is a fact that, that I just made up, this is that, that is where George, our, and got the idea for the heads

on the stakes for Game of Thrones as you watched John Carpenter's He also put it on that list. The heads on the stakes and challengers. That's what Luca Guadena was inspired by... Originally, the tennis balls are supposed to be heads. Here's the thing. The heads on stakes

are often put outside like a town, right? And to be like, don't come in here because it's what we do to bad people. You know, like it's to scare away people. But if it's a... a whole town of these ghosts. It looked like just a cemetery.

Like, this is where they all lay. I'll be honest, it did not feel well thought through. And I don't mind saying it. All right, that is a fair point. We all disagree with you. But can I just say, as someone, like, all I can think about was Pam Ger having

to do that full face prosthetic like makeup, not the makeup. It wasn't her head, right? It was. That's the thing. They built a rig, so they did not want to spend money on the prosthetic. So they didn't have to do a life game. So she had to stand her with their mouth open next to a prosthetic of Harry Knowles from Ain't a Cool News. Wait, really?

Yeah. Oh, my God. What on earth is this movie? It's not on earth. All right, yeah. What on bars. All right. Where we got?

If you were the last ghost on Mars Hi, what's your name, what's your question? My name is Dan, and we were talking about the vehicles earlier. I want to talk about the battering ram because that was a full-sized metal vehicle being pushed by like four people that somehow broke through the prison front door. Right.

Guys, battering ram, thoughts, questions, answers. You know, I don't think you're accounting for ghosts having, like, super strength. Yeah. Like, you should see what an orca can lift. Again, like, if I threw it, If I threw even a very sharp rotary saw blade at you, maybe it would lodge, maybe the fact that it's able to cleave off ahead

severing the spine is for a clean shot. Like, brr, well, so they're so strong. And I will just say, like, we don't know, because, but when you have someone motivating you, like, Big Daddy Mars. You know, like, win one for the Gippert. Like, Newt Rockney level, and his speech, Jason, I think you do it probably best. Oh, he's like, it really is like, they so often talk about creating actual languages for Game of Thrones. For Lord of the Ring.

This is where George R. Martin got the idea for not that language. They're just like. I just do a bunch of gibberish. Who cares? We got it. He's saying win one for the gipper. All right. You have a good notebook here.

What do you got? Well, this is something I kind of just was thinking about hearing Big Daddy Mars. Is this just an allegory of matriarchal versus patriarchal society that that's what's at stake here? Big Daddy Mars versus... Versus, yes, mommy. I don't know, because the matriarchist society seems very patriarchal. And I think that's what he's trying to say. And to that, I'm like, let us try.

Once. He would let you try, but you're too busy making out with each other. That's what happened. Not like men who don't make out with each other. That's what we feel. figured it out. Hey, what's your question? I just want to say, I saw on IMDB that

John Carpenter said that Natasha Hensridge downplayed some of the flashback framing sequences, and she replied that he should have directed her better. Well, I read this quote as well, and I didn't understand, downplayed it. Like, I don't know how you downplay a scene that you're acting in.

It's like, she didn't act it? I guess, like... She downplayed the flashback? Yeah, so when she was... It's all a flashback. like the trial. But I don't know how you downplay. I mean, I've never heard that term like, oh, she really downplayed that scene.

Like, she's just testifying. Well, I think it's because she, they shot them, from my understanding is they shot all of the flashback stuff, right? And then she fully improvised the tribunal scenes. And she downplayed what had happened in those scenes.

So then they had to go back and reshoot all of the flashbacks. Oh, to make it match. Based on her performance and what she improvised as what had happened. Now it makes sense. All right, there it is. Wow.

Now that, yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. Because they couldn't just reshoot the tribunal scene. No, no. That was one location and just like two setups. It's impossible.

They got it. Disrespectful to the actor. Yeah. That was in the can. So they had to. to go back and reach it to match to how much she had downplayed what had happened. Obviously we had opinions about this movie

but there are people out there with a different opinion and it is now time for second opinions. Hi, my name's Ned. Well, the train from shining canyon is coming, running slowly up those tracks and we'll learn about

the space cop on board but we'll do it in multiple flash Well, they went to pick a bass cube from jail, but they got there, it turned out that everyone had gone insane. Oh, baby Statham wants to fuck everyone, and Cube's little two-gun run isn't going to do much good. Oh, science lady had a harder balloon, which is a real weird thing to only see in a single flashback.

Everything is exploding now It's a standoff And Pam Gray's head on a spike And this town's looking like an abattoir Because that rolling red mist Baby we're the ghost of mine Yeah Thank you

Springsteen in theaters now Yes Wow Wow Jeremy Allen White is in the audience. That was great. Can I just say what, you know, because you guys, you guys do this show all the time and you guys like to watch people get up and sing is to me like that is that that that would scare the living shit out of me. Oh my God.

You're never, you're never, you won't catch me. The fact that everybody just did that so well is like unbelievable how it's really amazing. Truly great. It is. And they're not. It is. And on top of all that, yes, they're in front of people singing a song that they wrote. Like, yes, it may have a familiar melody, but they wrote it.

And it's like, that's even crazy. Well, no, I actually have notes on the writing. Oh. John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars has an average of 4.4 out of 5 stars, all right? There are 2,797 reviews. 69% are 5 stars. Yeah, only 3% are 1 star.

And we start off with Stormy, maybe Stormy Daniels. Who writes, Wish I, Ice Cube and Natasha Hentrich did a second one to follow up this one. I could have done without all that rock music, though, because after the first 45 minutes, it was driving me crazy. And I'm a big rock music fan.

But that was a bit much. One person found this helpful. Five stars. Great movie. Can I read one? You want her? Yeah. I have one. I have my own. this one is from

Ultra Girl 43 I thought this movie was terrific I didn't think it was weird at old that Statham had hair like that I thought it looks really good

natural I also fought for a first kiss he nailed it I feel like maybe I feel like that may have and Jason Statham wrote that. You think he wrote that? I don't know.

I don't know. It just feels like... Also, it was Ultra Girl, 43. The first audio second opinion we've ever had. You know, we can't judge it. It's the future. Patty Lizzie B

wrote this. My disc of this movie got jammed in the DVD player. Yeah. But it still played the other movies. And after two months of unsuccessfully

trying to get it out, I ordered this one. It arrived in good condition and on time. Just after the arrival date promised that's not on time. I want to be very

clear. That is in fact not on time. It is one day late. She was just down playing the flashback. But Patty goes on to say that when the disc did arrive the jam

movie did drop down and came out so I'm keeping that one in case this movie gets jammed five stars goes to Mars what two for one two for one I would like to go into that person's review history

to see what they wrote for the DVD player I also feel like why would you ever need to have five DVDs loaded up at any given note I get like CDs sure DVDs I didn't even know you could do that with DVDs. I mean, it's more of a thing.

Like, I remember that people used to have cars where they were like, yeah, I put 10 CDs or drunk. That's awesome. Yeah, but. DVDs? You're not going between movies. I'm not going to lie. I think this fucking idiot is putting DVDs. That kind of thing, too.

In a CD player and being like, how come movie no play? How come movie no play? Disk in machine? I did I write review I speak Martian I did have a hundred disc changer at one point

I had a hundred disc change CDs And you would put them all in like a big carousel And it was it was a So did you have to remember what was where You could type it in like T-9 like t-9 type like t-ting-ting b

That must have taken a whole week L-L B like that Wow Yeah. And this was a disc man? This was a, I would carry it. I would carry, it was heavy. It's like a backpack.

You walked around at the backpack. A backpack and I needed a power source too. A car battery, I remember. I remember seeing you on the subway in New York and you had a car battery. Yep. But if I wanted to switch from ACDC to Weird Al, it was no big deal. No problem at all. Just took about 30 seconds.

Both in the A's. I put it by the Y. Lois writes this My company My company Lois wrote this My company made all the sweaters for this movie Five stars

What? That's the kind of one I wish there was so much more to that one So this is the sweater that you were Yeah I was gonna say like obsessed with He was He was.

I don't think it's... Let me be clear. I don't think it's the sweater. I think it's the sweater wearer. Vah, va, va, voo. Hey, I like a nice, high-quality sweater, which is why I always shop at Quince. Lois must be so happy, though,

that those sweaters held up through some serious... I was. Lois, drop a link in here. Where is these sweaters? Lois, send us some sweaters. Get us in a sweater. CM writes this.

I love this movie. Criminals and police come together to suppress the last native Martians. It demonstrates just how tough colonization can be. Ice Cube was perfect.

I think John Carpenter should do a sequel and include ice tea too. The ice duo would be unstoppable. And I think they would both destroy Ghost Martians. Five stars. Wow. He's been waiting for this story to be told.

This pro-colonizer story. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. So much so much to unpack in John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars. Would you recommend it is the question? I've watched it twice. No. Yeah, it's so interesting. I mean, I absolutely hated watching this movie.

I had to, I looked at the clock and I thought, June, just do nine minutes and then you take a break. I was taking breaks. I was suffering through this. But you see, when you were watching it and I walked in on you watching it, I was like, oh, I'm missing some subtlety here. I need to rewatch it. Now, and you, and June, you, watch this in the shower.

Is that right? Over the course of several showers this last week. Your showers, our water bill is extensive. I mean, you put a desk in our shower now. MacBooks do not work

well in showers. I am also a no on this one. This one is joyless. Especially for a John Carpenter movie. There's stuff here. And I do think for the episode. Tune in to some of the movie, absolutely just to see the madness therein. But it's, being that it's such a obtuse plot that I just, at the end was like, I don't know what

this is in service of. This feels like a bunch of nothing. And as great as Cube was, and I'm always in for Q. Sure. When he shows up at the end of the movie to take Natasha Hensstridge out, and he shows up with new chrome guns. And now they're in, like, black leather dusters. I was like, oh, where was this movie? Yes. I'm into, I think, I'm into this moving forward from here. But I, the movie itself was really tough.

Yeah. What did Blank Check say? Well, I was going to say, like, I can't recommend this movie, but I really can recommend the episode of Blank Check. That's a set. Talking about this film. Joan Ray is one of the guests. Oh, Joe, that's a good movie.

that's a good listen. I like John O'Rae. He's great. I like the blank check guys. I'll tell you this much. This movie is, I feel like what John Carpenter will say is, you didn't get it. This is a comedy. I guess I had to make the jokes bigger. And that, I'm paraphrasing, but that's what he

has said. I made a comedy, you fucking idiots. Need it spoon fed to you. But I think that that's like retroactive. I think that that's like Tommy Wazzo going like, yeah, it was always, the room was meant to be funny. I feel like he, like he, yeah, the end felt like it was on tone.

It's not a fun watch. It's not a fun watch, although I will say, if, you know, tune in for the action. No, not for that either. The action looks like something that you would see at a theme park stunt show. Yes. It looks like I was watching it. I'm like, is this like, did they just hire the actors from Halloween Horror Nights to do like punches that are so broad?

I'm like, Waterworld was fun spectacular. There's way better than this. It looks like Halloween Horror Nights, but the maze is Mad Max. Yes. But they didn't license Mad Max. So it's like, it's an adjacent sounding thing.

It's like bad, bad drax. Nope. There is a drax. Forget that. Hmm. I have said, We worked, we worked really hard. I know.

to stunt scenes. I will say in... Oh, I have a question about the movie. How come throughout the movie they do so much shooting, shooting, shooting, or shotguns, rifles, but then they seemingly

run out of bullets and just use their machine guns and guns as bats. Okay, but then one scene later, shooting, shooting, shooting, shooting, where did they get the ammo? Why are they clobbering people with the gun? Well, I think they were just saving bullets.

Okay. I mean, they were making a call based on who their foe was. Okay. Whether they could knock them cold with just a baseball swing. I will say the moment that really made me laugh at most in this film was when Ice Cube does like Leroy Jenkins. If you're familiar with that moment in pop culture history, this is something that happened online a handful of years ago. It's a game. All right, John's up.

Ready, guys? Let's do this. The raw dragons. Oh, my God, he just ran in. Save him. Oh, gee, stick to the plane. Oh, Jesus. Let's go, let's go.

Stick to the plan, shove. Stick to the plane. That is the moment. Just completely disregarding the plan and running into a room full of zombies. All right, well, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, For no recommend. Sorry, Luca Guadino. It does make sense now

why at the end of a bigger splash, the orca comes out of the pool and eats Dakota Johnson. If you haven't watched that movie, everybody watch a bigger splash. Interesting. Now we're getting somewhere 9.56. It's where everybody in the audience was like,

we are done. Nick, you want to plug anything? You want to tell us anything we should be aware of? Yeah, there's a blank check. It covers this podcast. Oh, boy. They're currently doing the Cohen brothers, and it is a dynamite series.

Cannot wait. Maybe two people you know will come back on it. I'm going to be... I'm starting to go out and do some dates around the country. performing round, so keep an eye out for some live days. And that is your jazz band. Yes, this is my jazz band. It's me, Jeff Goldblum, and Jeff Goldblum.

Oh, wow. I'm very excited. All right, so Nick will be on the road. June and Jason, anything you want to talk about? Obviously, 911. The television event that I'm a part of is still ongoing. And also, I know Plan C was in the lobby. And they're still, I think, passing out some literary.

So please feel free to stop by on your way out and you can learn about safe at-home contraceptive that can be mailed across many states. It's pretty amazing. So yes, thank you to Plancy for being here and for all that you do.

Jason. I will continue to plug season 19 of Taskmaster that is... Yes. Great season. Available on YouTube. wherever you are. I'll also say I'm in a bunch of the next season,

season two of a man on the inside, the Ted Danson, Mike Scher's show that's on Netflix starting next month, as well as season two of Percy Jackson, which is coming back. If you want to see me scream at children, Percy Jackson, Season 2. I'll also promote the movie I made with Andrea.

I don't understand you. He's on Hulu now. That's great. And it might be a movie. movie that one day you guys No. No. You guys would do here on this show. No, it's got a great rotten tomato score. People love it. All right, well, I'll go see if the blank check guys want to check it up.

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