How Did This Get Made? - Jonathan Livingston Seagull LIVE!

Episode Date: September 22, 2023

The HDTGM crew are LIVE from the Beacon Theatre in New York to break down the 1973 tale of a rebellious young seagull who just wants to fly fast and ends up... in outer space?! Despite June insisting the movie made her feel "not well", they discuss Neil Diamond's nonsense soundtrack, Jonathan's whispery voice, the film's religious undertones, and much more. Plus, we hear compelling evidence that this film could be on the list of crimes committed by the Nixon administration. Fall 2023 tour dates will be announced on Mon 9/25! Check hdtgm.com then for info. Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

In a word, this movie is unbelievable. We saw Jonathan, Livyx and Seag white, Snow this one, we're just gonna get him Make a scene, our last show will be full Take a look at this, we two hit the hoax, control Take me, big callin' the host to truth When I take this, I throw all the way, we two run Bring me, get a straight pot, I hope you're poor, wall-steed Just to suck a bunch, the hard life, I'm tipping the bridge I'm gonna get the front, get me, count me standin'

Lots of callin' with that bad ass, and he's on the line Break the baby, take me, it line To call me with the bad ass and he's on the line Breaking names, Jimmy is cuz they cool his eyes Cuz they're bad gym, funny, looking kind of night Holy shit, you can't look, we'll chase him with giddily Jewels make the shower, the muckish eyes in the pain They just don't watch him, he's want me making the grave There's a real question for the audience, give man

Hello, people of New York. Hello, people of Arizona, hello, people of New York. We are live at the beacon, back here. We haven't been here in years. And when we're back back we brought the best. Jonathan Livingston's Segal. Don't adjust the sound on your podcast. This audience loves it.

They were excited. People were lining up, you should see all the Seagal costumes. We have the audience. Now, if you don't know about this movie, let me tell you a little bit about it. It's about a Seagal who yearns to be fast, but learns how to time travel. Came out in 1973, Neil Diamond did all the music. Neil Diamond sued this movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because not enough of his music was in it.

Yeah. So the credits are six minutes so they could dump three more Neil Diamond songs in it. But I bet you, none none of you watch the whole credits. Roger Ebert only walked out of four movies and his entire career. This was one of them. Tagline. Everyone's favorite book is now everyone's favorite motion picture. Not true. Alright, so we gotta break this down. We gotta break this down to the ground.

We gotta learn. We gotta see what was inside of us. What did we learn about ourselves because this movie, if you haven't caught it already, is a metaphor. Here to break it down, are Mike Tukohos. Please welcome Mr. Jason Manzookas. What's up, jerks? How we doing, New York City? That's what I'm talking about. These people are heroes. Why? Because they chose this movie.

Why? Why did you choose this? Why did you guys choose New York Ninja? What? You don't like it? They said- Why did the other one? I heard you guys were whining.

I heard you guys were whining online like babies. When we don't like this movie, we want to like the bad movies we have to watch for your dumb show you fucking animals. Each shit New York. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. We gave you a gift. We gave you a gift. We gave you a gift. It's a show about bad movies and people are like, it's too bad. Oh, as if you are fucking lucky that you had to watch this. And if you didn't, you're a fucking coward. I'm talking to you, balcony.

That's right. Can I get lights up there for a second? Look at these fucking maniacs. Holy shit, sit down. Jesus Christ is what this movie is about. This is about a Christ bird. And tonight, we're going to crucify that bird. If you are listening at home, we are talking to the orchestra, or as we call them, the

elders, up top. Here's our Jonathan Living Seagulls. Oh, yeah. And the mezzanine is Maureen? The mezzanmoreen? Or Chan? I like it's the mezzanmoreen. The mezzanmoreen or Fletcher.

Now let's bring out my next co-host to wouldn't let me post pictures of her reacting to this movie. Because it quite possibly was the best thing I've ever seen in my life. As I was a couple minutes ahead and knew what was coming up, please welcome a friend of the birds, a woman who if a bird comes within 50 feet runs in the opposite direction. Miss How are you, June? Not well. I'm not, I'm not well. I'm not doing well.

I don't feel well. I'm not well, Paul. How are you? I'm fine. Thank you for asking. June, not until the introduction that I realized or remember that you've been not well, Paul. How are you? I'm fine. Thank you for asking. June, not until the introduction that I realized, or remember, that you hate birds. Paul, I...

There's only one bird I like, and that's a hummingbird. All the rest can kick rocks. As far as I'm concerned. But did you enjoy about this movie? What I believe is I knew innately upon watching it, which was that many birds died making this movie. I'm gonna say upwards of 20 birds were painted white for this movie and died as a result.

This movie is rotten as a result. This movie is rotten with bird corpses. I will have you both know. Let's start at the very beginning because all I saw in my calendar was seagull. I knew I had to watch a movie called Seagull. And I thought, oh, it's a check-off adaptation, of course. We're gonna be dealing with generational conflict

and life of an artist. And I was so ready. And then it started. And all I did was click a link. And I started and I thought, this is a long opening. So long. Wait, so long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long. So long opening. Wait, so long. So long. So long.

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living room coffee table. Wow. It's three chapters in length because it was written in a aviation magazine. That's where it came from. What? Yes. I'll give you a little bit of it. Like all good books, it started.

You mean, wait, do you mean? You mean, do you mean, do you mean, like, an inflite magazine? You mean like, a Delta magazine? Like, the Sky Mall? The Delta magazine was like, what if a bird was Jesus Christ? It was started as like a story about a pilot who wanted to go fast. The name Jonathan Livingston is based on a pilot who decided to fly very fast and the author decided, oh, hmm, what if it wasn't a pilot but a seagull? And then wrote in an aviation magazine this story which then was turned into a novella, which then

became an international sensation, which then was made into a movie with songs by Neil Diamond. Wow, what a journey. Wow, you know what I'm just now remembering New York. I know why you chose this movie because the last time we were here it was another Neil Diamond. Right you guys love Neil Dine. And you know I have a special I do have a special place to hear in my heart because you sang at my NYU graduation a song he had written just for us in my heart because he sang at my NYU graduation, a song he had written just for us called Forever NYU. How did it go? Forever NYU.

That was pretty much it. Over and over and over again. But I so appreciated him being there. So I was, listen, Neil Diamond. Is it a style that you're graduating class? No. Neil Diamond was a respite in this movie. Hearing his voice made me feel like I could put my feet

on the ground. Like I was, because I actually at one point thought, are we doing? Are we dead? Are we dead? This is our punishment? I transcend it during the film. Are we in not heaven but just the place that you can go fast?

How did this get me? I wrote down while watching this. Oh, I think this is a horror movie. I wish. I wish the making of it certainly was. So many, I know I've said it, so many birds died making horror movie. I wish, I wish the making of it certainly was. So many, I know I've said it, so many birds died in making this movie. Jason?

Listen, why seriously though? I think deaf one bird definitely died. So many more, so many more. Oh yeah, no, this was like a snuff film for Seagulls. This movie was on Bin Laden's hard drive. I, I, I, I will say. I will say that it wasn't until the year 1980 where it was required to say no animals were harmed in the making of this film. This film came out in 1973, so it did scoot right under the

wire. That's terrible and I don't, again I don't care for birds and yet. By the way I just want to let you know that the magazine in which the first chapter of the novella was published was called Private pilot magazine Private pilot magazine that sounds like a porno mag for pilots What a niche market private pilot magazine is and then be like, people in private pilot magazine love it. This should be a book. Like, oh, I mean, all 10 readers of private pilot magazine. I mean, honestly, hats off to the author of that article

because to have something take off like that from a pilot's magazine, just the pool of audience members you're working with, that's remarkable. I mean, Richard Debock, that's who wrote it. I will say over a million copies were sold, topped the New York Times bestseller list for 38 weeks. This is a big hit.

Listen, and there are moments in this movie question mark. I'm not sure. I don't know if it qualifies as a. I know. I power point presentation. It's like no. It's a role. It's a role. I know, but there are some really beautiful shots that I did think we're breathtaking and there are some lines when When someone I don't know who it was one of the characters Says loving is giving I was moved by that I believe you're talking about

You're talking about Chang that's talking about chain. Yes, Jonathan. The other line that just deeply moved me in and I want to start with the positive was when our main character whose name is Jonathan Livingston Seagull. I forgot. That's a bad rolling off. Holy shit. When he says, what is fast enough? And the, and Chang says, perfect speed isn't moving fast at all. Perfect speed is being there. I wanted to write that down.

I wrote that down too. I liked on that. Yes. I wrote that down too. I wanted to sit with that for a minute. He also says, one begins to think that space and time aren't real. I wrote that down.

And I was like, is Chang Doctor Who? This is some real timey-wimy bullshit. Wait a second, hold on. I'm realizing I wrote down what is a perfect speed. Well, I think that we're celebrating that we all wrote it down, but it may be one of seven lines in the film. So... You would just have me to hear people talking. When the bird started talking, I lost my mind.

Because it took a while. It took a while and I was like, okay, it's going to be... I get it. It's going to be Neil Diamond's songs and footage of birds. Got it. And then the bird started not talking, but whispering. Well, this is the issue. I want to go faster. I want to go higher. Can I go faster? Can I go higher?

I'm in the library. What's going on? How are you going to go? I'm really nervous. And here's the thing. Maybe this is before people realize that it's important to have different sounding voices represent different characters.

Because at certain points, I'm like, is that, ooh, what? And I can't tell the difference between the birds. I'm sorry, I'm not racist, but I just don't know. I was having trouble on it, and at one point, I was like, oh, this is like someone is trying to tell you a bedtime story, and they're trying to do all the voices, but all the voices are sounding exactly the same. And then I looked at no, there are multiple different actors. Yeah, oh yeah. And the whispering is really only Jonathan Livingston Seagull. Everybody else speaks in a full voice. He though has this really quiet, but what he's saying is oftentimes like,

I don't want to play by rules, I want to go, I was like, what the fuck is this? And then I was like, oh, this is a Christ allegory, and so he can't have anything other than like calmness as his representation, or so I couldn't figure it out, but I also desperately wanted the Neil Diamond songs to be being sung by the birds. I wanted the music to be generating from the birds. I will say this, as somebody who likes a credit, I look at the credits, I wanna see all the great craftsmen that make this film. Yeah, you always stay for all the credits.

I did see one of the first titles that popped up. I think I saw the same thing. Script supervisor. Oh, yeah. Script supervisor. So just so you know what you're on a set, a script supervisor will say, oh, on this line, you actually forgot and...

Oh, they actually were carrying the person, the right hand and they're making sure that every line that's needed in that scene gets said in one of the takes so making sure yeah this script supervisor I just pictured on set being like no you were supposed to disappear on that line okay I just wanted to see a script supervisor watching birds on a beach in which clearly their feet were glued to the ground. Oh, yeah. Like, I would say like a full half of this movie appeared to be shot at an active dome. That's it.

Like, they were like, we'll throw cameras on the dome. We, the other credit that I saw, which made me laugh, and I was like, uh-oh, what's helicopter photography? I was like, okay, the helicopter gets its own credit. We'll see. By the way, that person, I believe, won an Oscar. For this? Yeah. I got to find it in my notes, but I'm pretty positive.

I will say I'm not surprised. I do, I thought it was beautiful to, I did. I thought it was very beautiful. Especially for 1970, whatever, absolutely. Absolutely, it was beautiful to watch. Well, let me ask you a question. I'll just say that he was nominated for an Academy Award. Did not win it.

Not surprised. I felt like, did you guys feel like a lot of this movie served as inspiration for Top Gun? So, I absolutely... All the aerial scenes, at one point Jonathan Livingston's Seagull, JLS, seems to go into a flat spin, and he hits the water hard and I wrote is this bird dying at minute 22 with genuine hope and glee and my next note is nope

He's flying again to Neil Diamond But this this is my issue about the movie Your single issue? Just one. I believe it has a flawed conceit, which is flying is difficult for birds. Right? The whole movie is like, oh, my wings are heavy. That would be like, it's such a weird premise.

Listen, I do think, and I don't know that much about seagulls, but I don't consider them to be expert flyers. Okay. Go ahead. I believe seagulls are on land more than they're flying from, that's just my own experience of them. But you would argue. This is my own anecdotal evidence. You would argue.

You spend most of your time on land. Majority, yeah. So you see them on land. That's where I have to see them. Are you on the ocean or in the air on? Don't worry about my data on how I would argue. If you're theoryed, I barely see them up in the sky. If you're always theory-

If you're theory is correct, they would be called langels. The one? I guess I just think there are other birds that do it better. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. There are other birds that do it better. I agree with you. I grew up in a coastal town where there was a lot of seagulls and they were mean as

nasty. They are nasty animals. I want it to be a hot. There's no pigeons. You. They're not. You people are nasty animals. Now, they're not pigeons. You. You people are pigeons. New York City.

They're not pigeons, but they're awfully close. Oh, they're the rats. They're rats. Yeah, absolutely. I looked only one thing up, and it wasn't about the movie itself, but just because I was curious as the movie was going on, what the fuck is happening? Can you guess what the average lifespan of a seagull is?

I believe it's not that long, like eight years. I was gonna say seven. 10 to 20 years. What? Yeah, that's years. What? Yeah, that's right. That's right. These fucking sequels are in college. I, that blew my mind.

Because I was like, what the fuck, how long does this movie take place over? Well, I mean, what is time? What is space? Yeah. And Jonathan gets to be 33 years old. Oh, you're right. How does Jonathan know anything about Miles Perrower? Yes. Great question.

Not only has he got a standing ovation for an observation. Not only that, but he knows innately the speed he's going. Why can't I fly faster than 62 miles an hour? I mean, this is truly... Okay, just to pull back for one second. Again, I haven't read the book, and there are some things in this movie that I deeply connected to.

I deeply connected to, but I did by the end. I was trying to understand what the book slash movie slash slideshow was telling us. Like, was it that we have to leave our community to really understand ourselves as an individual and seek a higher purpose and a spiritual connection to the beyond and then come back and sort of deliver that news to the community. There's such a disdain for the community in this movie.

And I guess that's new age spiritualism in general that that it's the focus is solely on the individual and their path and not it's a very hippie idea like go out do drugs party come back to your hometown and tell your parents their squares Well, they come well, I think it I mean I Really do think the story is mapping the Christ story on to the Seagull. He goes out into the desert. He goes out into the wilderness. By the way, when it went to the desert, I was like, did I not pay attention to something? Oh, and then how are we in the desert?

I didn't know. Oh, and then he goes to the snowy mountains? Yes. I was like, this seagull that's in the snowy mountains for short die. There's absolutely no way. They brought a seagull to the middle of the Rockies, and we're like, just put it down over there.

Coyotes like to the ground. We'll film it until it expires, and then we will walk away. I know at least, I know at least, a deer ate at least two or three seagulls. For sure. For sure, but, you know, he goes out into the world, he is cast out, he wanders the desert, he wanders the world.

That's true. Yeah. He dies. He goes into the afterlife, he commutes with Maureen. I assume that Maureen is Mary and- No, but Mary would be- I thought it was his girlfriend, but I don't know where that's all very Magdalene made me out. Okay sure It is interesting because he comes back. He gives a sermon on the mount. Yeah

It's fucking he resurrects someone he Lazarus is someone Is his name Fletcher Fletcher Fletcher Fletcher? Fletcher? Fletcher? Fletcher Seagull. Fletcher Seagull dies. Are they all called Seagull? Yes, they all share the same last name, Seagull. It's like Smurf. It's like the Smurfs are all called blank Smurf.

They all have first middle and last name Seagull. Oh my gosh. Can I just play the moment, the trial at Scene 2? Outcast. You're gonna play clips from this movie before? Oh, I got a lot of clips. Let's not the trial. If you guys aren't cool, we'll start the movie from the beginning.

Jonathan Livingston Seagull. You do not live as we live. You do not fly as we fly. You do not believe. As we believe, you will learn that life is the unknown and the unnormal. We are put into this world to survive. Is this the bird that's talking to the bird that's receiving? Who knows? I don't believe that. Is that a different bird? Jonathan Sigaal, the brotherhood is broken. Never again will you see any of your flock?

Never again will you have the protection of your flock? Your henceforth and, outcast! Outcast! By the way, that may be the shirt, just a picture of a seagull as a thing outcast. I like that. I will say this. I didn't realize it until later, but the elder is Hal Holbrook. Mark Twain? Yes, Mark Twain, evening shades, Hal Holbrook, Richard Crenna played Jonathan's father. But you know, there is an interesting thing because again, I want to go back to what the Seagull is

supposed to do because it's hard to watch a movie where the opening scene, you're watching your main characters enjoy chum out of the water. All right, seems a little weird, it's not majestic eating fish guts. What's the next scene? Oh, them eating each other. Because that literally is the next scene. It's one sigil is chewing on the other sigils head. They're fighting. They are, they're bloody. They're fighting. Yes. I, that was very upsetting. And then you're supposed to be like, I sympathize with this, but then my

question is, are they saying saying seagulls are trash monsters? And they only care about eating garbage. And that's what the tribe does. Until they have enough lives that they learn about perfection and are given entrance into heaven? And what can dot, dot, dot teleport? But I think that the movie does not, this is where the allegory sort of falls apart because I thought the movie does not believe there is a heaven. I thought- I agree with that.

That yeah, at one point, they talk about how it's right here. It's in our actions. Again, I deeply connected to this. Heaven, this is a quote from the movie. Heaven isn't a place, it's perfection. But that seems, again, I don't know. I don't know what it means. But that seems against what he's saying,

because he's saying that perfection doesn't exist. Love is better than perfection. Because he's like, how fast do you need to be? 270, a million miles now. Like, there is one speed that's faster. He gets, he says, he wants to achieve perfect speed. Which I was like this. Like, I feel like Jonathan Livingston Seagull

is going to be the next cast member of the Fast and Furious Meal. Poolem in! Put him in! I would have loved it if you had a little nod button! Come on, boom! It's so hard, too, because we're hearing those words, but when we're cutting to the close-ups of the Seagulls, the... ...the... ...there's the least expressive animal you could catch.

There's nothing going on behind the eyes. There's no need for speed. You know when it's made absolutely clear how absolutely stupid seagulls look? Is when that hawk arrives. Yeah! They put a camera on that hawk and I was like, wait a minute, something cool is happening. This hawk is alive, and the seagulls are like, eh.

And the hawk is like, the hawk is like, get out of my air. Like the hawk for sure kills that seagull. For sure kills that seagull. It's so true. It's like when you have a movie, and there's a character actor who comes in

and just like lights up the screen. The hawk is the Benicio del Toro of this movie. I have a movie and there's a character actor who comes in and just lights up the scene. The hot is the Benicio del Toro of this movie. That's right. That's right. And you're just like, wow, something real is happening. I feel alive. I'm awake for this moment.

That was the hawk. Now, can I just not to repeat what Jason's already said, but how would you ever orchestrate a hawk attack? Yes, it would be. Oh, me! Well, I guess I have to ask, is the hawk attack in the book? Wait, okay, you know what? Is there a book expert here that we can go to?

Any librarian in the audience? Is there a librarian? Oh, that would be great if there's a librarian. Oh, over here you are You read it today. All right, so you're gonna be the freshest. Can you come over to the side of the stage and I'll walk over to you. Yeah All right, the question was is the hawk attack in the book no, okay was is the hawk attack in the book? No. Okay. Is there anything like the hawk attack in the book even if it's not a hawk? No. Any other questions while I'm down here? Is this a faithful adaptation of the book? It is exactly the movie I would have expected after reading

the book. By the way, my reading it today was just a refresher I've read it multiple times Wait a minute. Wow. I have a follow-up question Why? So I grew up in the land where this was filmed also home to Birdemic and the birds in the land where this was filmed, also home to Birdemic and the Birds. So, you know, living in the coastal town, my, my, I was born in 1980, so this book was very fresh. It was on my parent's shelf, so I picked it up when I was like eight years old. It was a book that was very popular with children, right? It was a popular book.

Do you find like June finds some spiritual centering with the book? Absolutely. I read it again for high school. I wrote, like, a 20-poet stands a poem about it as my book report. Do you have it memorized? Read the poem.

Read the poem. Read the poem. Read the poem. Well, she doesn't have it. Yeah, I know. I don't think you have it with you. Do you remember any part of it? I don't, and this is pre-internet, so I don't have like a cop.

All right, well, I won't make you sit away from your friends, but I will... Please post the poem after this if you can find it, take a screenshot of it, whatever. So, I guess my question is this, well, what's your name? Morgan? Morgan, while we have you, what, so if the hawk, do you think that they just saw that hawk attack and decided to get cameras up and rolling? Yeah, I think it was like found footage.

It's found footage. Like national geographic. I think they were like found footage. It's found footage. Like national geographic. I think they were like, we need some drama. What if they were just filming in a hawk attack app and then great, we'll work it in. Well, get off my land. I mean, it was a very crazy moment. It was a comical moment, too.

It seemed like, oh, this is interesting. The filmmaker was sued because they added two violent episodes that were not in the book. And he felt like that took away from the magic, the majesty of this. But what was the other violent episode? That maybe when they were all of the seagulls were attacking each other. Yeah. Oh, that was violent. How is it?

I mean, for Morgan, is the scene in the in the can I ask a question? Morgan is the scene in the book where JLS is trying to fly too fast and then falls and is all bloodied on the raft in the water and you think he's gonna die. Is that in the book? Yeah, I mean he crashes. Yeah, he crashes. Yeah, does Fletcher kill or just Fletcher get killed in the same way? Yeah, he crashes. Yeah, just let your kill or just let your get killed in the same way. I think he flies into the mountain. Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. He's avoiding the little baby bird. Correct. And so that happens in the book too. Yeah, okay. Okay, great. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Morgan. Give it up for Morgan! Thank you, Morgan. When Maureen says, you learned so much that you didn't have to go through multiple lifetimes. Blah blah blah blah blah.

When did he learn that? What did he learn? I feel like I don't know what she's talking about. So Jason, I think a lot happened. I would love to know if it was in the book Morgan. I think a lot happened when our see-go, what's the character's name again? Jonathan Williams, Steve Segel.

Oh. June is actively raising the movie from her memory as we talk. It's leaving us. I have so much. I'm an adult woman. I'm carrying a lot of things in this little brain. I can't carry everything.

I can't. Some names and places are gonna go. It's not sticking. So when that guy, I do think a lot happens when he's witnessing, like there's certain things that he witnesses, he's witnessing a horse breast fetus. So hot. So this move. He's witnessing a horse breast fetus.

So hot. So this is a little kid. It's child and he is watching. The Christian. That has real Christian stuff. He's purving out. I know his horse did he? It was so weird, but when he's under there

and it's raining, he's watching that. He's watching that. I do think he's understanding things. Again, there's no dialogue under there. But we just put pieces together. That's yes. Yes. So when he threw from the desert to the wintery tundra,

that's when he was learning. I guess he flies all over the world. Does he do the whole world? Is that what we're meant to believe? I guess, I mean, I think that what we really do need to see though, is another clip. This is a... Come on, why are you doing this? You love it!

You love it, New York! This is a Chang talking about some mystical mumbo jumbo. This is clip 6. Oh, this is great. Did you see that? he says we can all learn that whenever we want to learn it next life maybe it is not so difficult Jonathan

once we understand i want to understand that's my favorite part the bird disappearing and reappearing is my favorite part are you noticing that the bird is reappearing all over the bird? Yes, okay. But I like when it's bowlware.

And every when I can think of after a while, one begins to think that space and time are not quite real. Can you teach me to fly like that? Of course. If you want to learn. Yes, I want. When can we start? I'll do anything. Or, hey, did you see this? I've got to learn. How do you do it? I mean... First, you let your teacher get a worse and age-wise.

I'm sorry, Chang. It's just that all my life, I can't explain it. I've had this need to know, to fly as fast as thought, to anywhere that is now, forever has been, or ever will be. I will say, I know we're making a lot of fun about this movie, but I know it's a serious topic. I love the Netflix documentary about the people who are in Changs Cult and they finally got out years later.

Really serious stuff. They really, wow, documentary got me. Can we just talk about this? I wrote this down. The lyrics of a Neil Diamond song that goes like this. Hold on, pulling it up. Lonely looking sky, lonely sky, lonely looking sky, and being lonely makes you wonder why, makes you wonder why lonely looking sky, lonely looking sky, lonely looking night, lonely night, lonely looking night, and being lonely, never made it right, never made it right.

Listen. Lonely looking night, lonely looking night, and why you. For ever and why you. Forever and why you. Listen, we can say whatever we want about him. But can you imagine this movie without Neil Diamond? These Eagles are coming to America today. The thing I love about Neil Diamond.

I would have loved it if it was like Leonard Skinnerd. What? I have to tell you guys. So I was getting my hair blown out today. Today! Today! Today! And at first, I knew I had to finish the movie while I was getting, and I never met this person

before who came to do this. And I put my little ear buds in, my ear pods, and I thought, let me, she, because she's right behind me. Let me just keep her away from this, what I'm witnessing on my computer. But at a certain point, the buds died. And I had to just play it. You know, I had to play it. I want to know the conversation she's having currently.

So, how was your day? You're not going to believe this. And I thought it was so stressful. We were all getting ready. The kids are here. I was like, I don't have it in me. I don't have the bandwidth. I'm already so beaten down by this movie.

I don't have it in me to tell her to explain why I'm watching this end-taking notes. I don't... I can't, you know. I guess it's a movie, it's just footage of birds, and she was scribbling notes, like she was going to be tested on it. It was... But then I realized, if I just do love and not hair, maybe that's my perfection. What I would like is for someone either a fan or an Avril or something, to recut a trailer for Jonathan Livingston Seagull except instead of Neil Diamond music, it's like Led Zeppelin. It's like immigrant song,

or hit something just like absolutely thunderous and brutal with the fighting and all the rest. I will always say that my favorite Neil Diamond story is he saw the movie ET and was so moved by it that he ran home and wrote that song Heartlight like, Duh-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no I can only do whatever you go. Can you imagine? So this is something I'm wondering after watching the last clip. Do you think the actors question Mark that they recorded their lines to picture like that

they absolutely not. Absolutely not. Absolutely. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Absolutely. Well, one record- One record- If some of them had never seen the movie. One of them recorded in a library, which makes sense for the quiet tone.

Even when we played the clip, the whispering was, like, I couldn't hear a goddamn word. It's like, I put on close captioning for everything, as you know, never have I been more happy than I did Don't applaud for that Don't applaud for close captioning by the way Get it together at no No

Oh why? Play the trailer again I mean it's so interesting that that the choice was made to, for what's the character's name we're going to Jonathan. What do you think it is? So I do have a dear friend Jonathan Levine, who's he directed Longshot. It's a very good friend of mine.

You're great in the movie. Thank you so much. And I... Paul, you were great in the movie. Thank you, Jason. Thank you. I was not asked to be in the movie. Technically, I was a local hire because I was with June in Canada.

So it was easier for me. But so I keep on hearing in my head, Jonathan Levine's Seagull, and that's where I'm getting confused. Well, you may be getting confused with your friend Kirk Maynard's Seagull, right? It's possible. But from what I know of Seagulls, they're so loud. But they're so loud.

You have very little knowledge of seagulls. Hey, listen, my experience is my expertise. List what you know about seagulls, go. They eat garbage. They're not afraid to come up to humans. They don't fly that well. They'll do it But I don't think it's what their soul's purpose is. There is a There is a long standing. I don't know if it's an urban legend or it's real if you feed a seagull and alka

Selzer it will explode This again I grew up in an hometown and this was, there was sea gals everywhere. The same hair of all. To my grandfather. What's that? Same thing happened to my grandfather. Plop, plop, fizz, fizz, boom!

Ha, ha, ha. What else is there to say? I mean, I don't know. What else is there to say, June? I'd love to direct you towards the scenes in which they fly in outer space. I forgot about that. I'm so sorry.

Morgan, do they go to outer space in the book? No. No. No. Thank you. They definitely go at doing the Lord's work. I'm sorry. Jonathan Livingston Seagull's work.

They definitely put a bird on a green screen. Like at one point, the bird, it's like in old Hitchcock movies when someone's driving and you just see a screen behind them. It's like more driving than the road. There's moments in this movie that are like that tune. I'm like, how did they get the bird in front of the screen? I'd listen. In those opening credits, I didn't see anything about

Seagull Handler, Seagull Trainer. Every single thing. I have the best fact about that. Every shot that you see with Seagulls in it, you have to assume all the birds in that shot died shooting that shot. The next shot, New Birds, they die. Next shot, New Birds, they die. Here, but here's what was really confusing,

is that one point I thought, oh, there, so the bloody fight they get into in the beginning of the movie, there's blood on that Seagull's face. And they're tracking that blood, I think, on that particular Seagull's face, our main character, John Muthin, would be very... They were seeing his... We're seeing that seagull, so we know that that's our main character throughout the movie.

And then sometimes it felt like the blood wasn't there. That is very true. I also was tracking the blood, and it was not there. Also, our lead, Jonathan Livingston Seagull, in early scenes has distinctive marks on his beak that are not present in most of the other scenes. Wow. Which once again leads me to believe he's died and did not rise from the dead as the character does. Wow.

I mean, here's what I'll say about the caring for the birds. The, you know, this is, of course, a, um, a hall Bartlett joint. He wrote it, he directed it, the whole thing. Bartlett hired Leslie Parrish as the film's associate producer. Because all birds must perish. She chose several of the locations and helped care for all the seagulls in a sweet at the holiday end. But then imagine meeting her in the bar downstairs and her being like, I don't know, this is going pretty well. Why don't we go up to my room? Can you imagine the holiday in people they charge you for smoking in a room?

Oh, don't mind them don't mind them. They just like to watch and Then when Leslie Parish the films associate Thought when Leslie Parish the's associate producer watched the screening, she saw that she was demoted to researcher. Now the other thing about this was the seagulls were supposed to be trained by veteran bird trainer Ray Burwick. However, Burwick, Birdwick, Burwick, Burwick, however, Burwick, Rick Burdwick, Burdwick. Burdwick, Burdwick.

Change your name if you're that close. Throw a D in there. However, Burwick got sick and never came back to the film. So he got sick. He just didn't show up. It seems like how Bartlett did not get along with anybody in this making the film, a film that he proclaimed, I was born to make.

That's what's so true. I mean, I will say this about our entertainment industry. There are certain animals. When they say seagull trainer, there's no way to train a Seagull. It's like, you're just a person who owns one? Or you were captured. Captured by the reason you captured Seagull.

Do you remember on the point of me like that? Do you remember on the league, we were shooting a scene with a snake. And there was a snake trainer there. And he's like, oh yeah, I can get the snake to do whatever you want. And then the snake sat coiled up on the ground and we're like, well, can he come over here? He's like, nah, it's a snake, he's got a mind of his own. Let's go into the audience to hear your questions. Now I did learn a little bit from the Taylor Swift concert. She did costume changes, so now I'll do one, and I'll put on my hat and say I'll hold the mic.

All right, so no one needs to grab the mic from my hand. We have a question. Oh, I can come to you. OK, great. What's your name? And say your first name and the last name, Seagull. And then ask your question. Mady Stella Seagull.

And I just wanted to get your thoughts on their kind of disability politics were a little problematic. This movie was ableist I feel like yes. It was interesting. I wrote that down. I didn't know how to get to it, but I'm glad that you brought it up. They really were giving up on that bird with the broken leg. Fletcher. It wasn't it Fletcher? Oh yeah, it was. And then they're trying to get rid of Fletcher. And he's like, no, you can fly.

Don't worry about it. And Fletcher does fly until he dies. And then Jesus Christ's Seagull resurrects him. And he becomes a teacher. They all become a teacher. It is so tough because it did. I think what if this movie brought up for me, too, is my frustration and resentment

toward that new age philosophy of like, oh, we just acknowledge our limiting beliefs about ourselves. We can change the world. And it's like, well, yeah, yes, no, you're still a sequel at the end of the day. And like, we need bigger policies. I mean, I don't know. It just made me, it just made me mad. It just made me mad. It just may be mad.

We got a question back here. Your name, your sequel name, and your question. My name is Dan Siegel. So we all remember that part about like 20 minutes in where he tries to fly and then crashes. And it's basically bleeding out. And we thought he was going to die. And I'm wondering if it's possible that maybe this whole movie

after that is. Do not say, Jacob, Claire. No! No! Oh! Do not say that. No! Not only are you a fucking moron,

but the person next to you was taking a flash photo during that? Get the fuck out of the beacon! No! No! No! No! You're a seagull name and your question. E.T. Fuck out of the beacons Your seagull name and your question it is last shegal. I just want to get your get your thoughts on how

Johnson's the dick because The seagull dies is protege he goes to heaven and then he says well, you could stay in heaven or you know They need you back home and stay in heaven, or you know, they need you back home to teach the other seagulls like a dick, like it just tricks them into going back. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is a wild reading of that. You think Jonathan, you think Jonathan to leave me a seagull is a dick

because he resurrects Fletcher and says, now you can be a teacher for the flock. And that's a Do agree I actually do agree I agree How so Because he took him out of heaven yeah Because he took him out of like this transcended moment so that he could go be you know mortal again And I was like wow and I do think that if if you know

Someone's on the edge of passing on to the next dimension, I'm going to let them go. That's a note to all my friends and family who are here. I'm going to let you go. I feel like he gave Fletcher a real opportunity to have more to give, to become a teacher, to become a representative, someone who could come, who has learned and can teach the flip. Basically, Fletcher seems to me to be an apostle. Oh boy. This is fucked up. I hate it so much, Paul. What your eyes to the mes for a real life Jonathan Livingston Segal right here.

There's a man here. I'm going to assume it's a man even though I don't know. It's definitely a man who's got a giant Segal head on it. Yes, his arm around the bird man. All right. Don't look at us. Don't look at us, Segal man. Don't look at us, don't look at us, Siegelman. Don't look at the mask. Please keep the mask on for the question.

All right, your name, your Siegel name, and your question. Jason Siegel. All right. We love doing forgetting ceremonial. And your question. So how many times did they film the death scene? Yes, that scene is really upsetting. A bird crashes into the side of the mountain and just so you know it's dead, it falls a comical amount. Yeah, like,

and this is, I'm dating myself, but like, Junts is the driving cat level, like, cucka, cucka, cucka, cucka, like it falls and falls. Paul, he, Paul was really disturbed by that scene so much, so that at one point, I was watching that scene while our kids were watching the movie with us. so that at one point I was watching that scene while our kids were watching the movie with us. But Politurdy's seen it and he goes fast forward! Fast forward! Well I didn't want my youngest, my merch rep to see that. I thought he would be upset by- He was also like slow-mo. It was like really, it was like indulgent. Again, this is for some a snuff film, an erotic, an erotic thriller. Woo!

Alright, I have a question over here. But he doesn't die, because he does die, but like Lazarus, he is resurrected. He has the first power, I believe. Wait, like Lazarus? He was resurrected? Lazarus in the Bible. See, like Lazarus? He was resurrected? Lazarus in the Bible. See.

He was resurrected? Wow, I gotta go back and check it out. Ha ha ha. Dude, you gotta check out the Bible. Holy shit. It sounds familiar. It's in the hotel. I will say Paul went to Catholic school.

The people who went to Catholic school know the least about it. I don't know. I was a religion major in college and I'm a zero on everything. I remember it. Nada. I am in the balcony. Be careful. Be careful, Paul.

Don't stand up in the front row. Don't stand up in the front row. Don't stand up in the front row. You're so close to falling over. I will now go to the back of the balcony. If I picked you to sing a song, get ready to get down there. All right, here we go. Who's here?

Come to me a little bit. So I don't die. Here we go. Okay. Careful. Your name, your sequel name, your question. Lo-s-a-gal. Okay, great. So instead of a religious allegory,

couldn't it be a sexual freedom allegory? Yeah. Yeah. Wherein, the community doesn't like what Jonathan Livingston Seagull is doing sexually. Rocket man. And they want to repress him. And he wants to fuck fast and hard. And so he experiences the little death of Lepetite Mort.

Okay, the orgasm you mean? And then he suffers from the shame of it. He's on the raft, he's feeling terrible, he's like so ashamed. And then he realizes, no, this is my true authentic self. And I need to be who I am. I need to live my truth. I need to fuck how I want to fuck. I need to like Yeah, beat that

Only the balcony could make this Christian movie horny I agree Because because because later in the movie I was like when when Maureen and Jonathan and Vincent Seagull are splitting up, she says, I love who you are, Jonathan. And I was like, wait a minute, are they fucking? And I wanted to see it. I wanted to see these birds fuck.

Okay, so obviously we have an opinion about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. to leave my review. I never thought I'd find a film like you. Find a film like you. With music by me'll diamond to the kind of songs I won't fast forward through. I won't fast forward through. And I flew.

I flew to Amazon, like Jonathan, Jonathan Livingstein. That's it, you did it, you did the right thing. Hold on, you did the right thing. Stay there, Stay there. Stay there. Yes. This is a hero. Hero.

Hero. No one has ever done that. You heard the applause right now. You can't get that out. You called it right there. This is a hero. Also, the inspiration for that song is what band? That's a flock of seagulls.

Boom! Boom! Boom! Get the fuck back in your seat. Wow. It's over, baby. It's over, baby. Wow, Tom. That's what we're talking about.

New York City Cup Tart. How can you compete with that? But we have a piece. Everybody else in line should fit the fuck down. No, you got an instant to come out here. No, no, I'm kidding. Next one up, here we go. And now, it's time.

Oh, they gave each other a fist bump. I love that. By the way, this is not for the podcast. Cut this from the podcast. I love how much you guys love each other. I love how happy you are to see each other and how supportive you guys love each other. I love how happy you are to see each other and how supportive you are of each other, but I can't say that during the podcast. Okay? So now we're back in on the podcast. I want to say what this dildo, here he goes. And I just want the flock to see me, but I don't think that they understand.

When everyone else can fly 60, I just want to get to a thousand. I just want a second opinion. Yeah, worth it, worth it, worth it, what's your name? Do it again, do it again, do it again. Do the whole thing again. And I just want the flock to see me, but I don't think that they understand When everyone else can fly 60, I just want to get to a thousand I just want a second opinion

Fuck yes Holy you came to play that was awesome, what's it him? Will Patrick Segal yes All right here we go and now it's time for second opinions You unusual and anxious bird. You wanna travel the world. Your mom thinks you dive too fast. The elders had you outcast, and though it might seem strange,

might seem untrue. But I like this bird, the seagull left away, in the snow with the horses Eating trash with my cousins You might think I'm the devil, but I'd like this bird The seagull laughs away Fly through space because it feels right Rade five stars on a website

And head off with my flo fucking to the sunlight. Wow. Incredible. Incredible. Killed it. Wait, wait, wait, what's your name? Sorry, this is Blaze Ferrer's Seagull. Everyone here is so much more talented than us. I really do feel that.

What a blessing. I'm starting to feel badly about myself. I really, part of my life through the show. Part of me wants to do like six more just because it's so, I want to watch that show. That was a concert. Holy shit. Wow.

Wow. Awesome job. We may have to put all of them in. We just did two shows in Boston and every single one of those took a dump on Boston. Oh my gosh. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And I'll be honest, in that the Boston shows, when you guys hear it, you're going to hear

them saying, fuck New York, fuck New York. And it's going to sound a lot like I started that chant. Look at that. But I love New York. Alright, here we go. Jonathan Livingston Seagull, that's the main character in the film. Also the title of the film. 763 total reviews. 79%. five stars.

Almost 80% loved it. I don't believe that for a second. It was everybody in this audience who clearly loved it. All right, this is written by Gabe Oz, written in 2013. The title is A Beautiful Movie to Cherish. And this is how the review goes. This was the first movie we ever watched when we got our first BCR growing up.

My mother wouldn't let us watch anything else until we saw this film. And I'm so glad that she did that for us. It's a message that has stayed with me throughout my life. And I look forward to introducing my son to this later on. Thank goodness it's available on Amazon because one, who the flip has a VCR anymore? Who the flip? Two, VCR tapes won't last a lifetime.

Three, you cannot purchase this movie on DVD or VCR formats anymore that I know of. And four, thanks to Amazon Cloud Storage, I know my purchase will be safe and available for years and years to come. And I may be able to introduce my grandchildren to this flick. May we all be Jonathan's five stars. Jeff Bezos? This one is written by Michael Shapoa.

He says, add the album with Neil Diamond years ago, when I was in college, but didn't have time to see the movie. Can't wait to watch it! I was busy with family health issues. Five stars. Wow, to be offering that kind of intimacy and insight in an Amazon review for a movie you have yet to see. I had family health issues in an Amazon review.

Again, for an unseen as of yet movie. Yep. Oh, that is a crying for health. Truly. That's a cry, that is heartbreaking. Jeffrey Great House writes, this review in 2014 titled, Great If You Suspend Dispelief.

When this film came out in 1973, it was popular, but many critics panned it. I think because it has so much sentiment in it, the music is beautiful and spectacular. It has stayed with me all these years. I bought the film to watch it again for the first time in 35 years, and it has stood up. I have a personal reason for liking it.

It mirrors my own life. The film deals with the process of self-actualizing, whereby people who are creative have innovative ideas and a thirst for knowledge and achievement must pull away from the crowd. I highly recommend this film to parents who have children struggling with their creative identity and process of individuation. Five star. And then finally we'll end up with... Wait, that is crazy. That is crazy. Like this person...

Oh, I don't even care. Virginia Gomerra writes this, best birthday gift ever. This is a great piece of artwork inviting me to be aware that nobody can hold me back unless they allow them to steal my dreams. Five stars. Oh, holy shit.

I want to read one thing. I forgot my- I feel like all the reviews for this movie are like from sad people. No, I mean, it is truly making me think like, wow, we're also desperate for inspiration. Every time. Everybody here?

People are searching. Yeah, searching, searching, searching, searching. And they're finding it in the absolutely most dog shit places. Here, ah. BML from the Discord wrote, and I forgot my notes appears I couldn't get BML out there, but I'll read it, BML. The species depicted in this movie are Western Goal, Herring Goal, and California Goal. They are all native to the West Coast. Therefore, fall under the protection of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918, which prohibits the capture trade, harm,

or killing of any bird, natural resident, or migrant to the US without the express written permission of the Department of the Interior. The credits give special thanks to the US Fish and Wildlife Service, which seems to indicate such permission was given. Otherwise, basically the entire film is a flagrant violation of this law.

That's right. Given that the interior is a cabinet level department within the executive branch, where does Greenlighting this movie ranked among the list of crimes committed by the Nixon administration? Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes! Yes! Yes! Way in, bird experts!

Holy shit! Is that person here? BMLR here. Wait, where? Over here? Right there? Give it up! Ha ha ha! Give it up. Incredibly, do you have more bird insights? Anything truly important that we need to hear from you

They try they hired a trained hawk to kill that seagull. Incredible, incredible, great work, give it up. This audience is fucking great. And look, you had a fun time at the dumb movie you watched. Quickly, I just wanna hit three quick things. There were three lawsuits associated with this film. We talked about how Richard Bach, the author sued Paramount Pictures because it was deviated

because of the violence. So many lawsuits. Neil Diamond said he would never get involved in a movie again unless he had complete control. And then the director responded to the lawsuit by criticizing Neil Diamond saying, he's become too slick. All of his music's not from the heart as it used to be.

And he might as well be called Neil Emerald. And he goes like this. Bartlett also added, Neil's extraordinarily talented, often his arrogance is just a cover for the lonely, insecure person he is underneath. And then finally, another director also sued the film, claiming its dull scenes from his 1936 film, La Mare.

The suit was dismissed without trial, petitioned on the grounds that extensive public school and cultural use of the film had robbed it of its common law copyright protection. The budget for this film in 1973, and it guesses 1.5 million. 1.5 million. It's got to be nothing because this is essentially just B-roll. Well, it's 1.5 million. That's a lot. For 1973.

I guess so, yeah. Bunch of birds. Holiday Inn. I million, that's a lot. For 1973. I guess so, yeah. Bunch of birds. Holiday Inn. I mean, what else? Butchers was 1.5 worldwide gross and domestic gross, same 1.6. So that's what we got there. That is what we have.

Wow, wow, wow. This was a yikes. Would you recommend it? Oh God. No. The yes for the audience. No. New York is saying absolutely yes.

Again, I kept on wondering like, oh, when did the people come out? And I do think it was at about a half an hour. I thought, June, there's nobody else coming. And for me, that was the lesson. It's like, I don't know, the lesson of individualism and limiting beliefs and all that stuff. For me, the lesson was like like no one's coming to save you Like you have to go through this on your own

Last night Jason said to me He's surprised by my optimism. Sometimes I go into these movies thinking this will be good and After 13 years of doing this. Yes. And I will say there are movies that take my breath away that we do on this show. And this is one of them. I'm like, what?

What is it? Yes, it's not a movie. It's crazy. And I'm better for having seen it. I, yes. Paul. If we didn't, we wouldn't have those songs. We wouldn't know about the next administration.

We wouldn't have Jonathan Livingston Seagull. My dad may have not have that as doppelganger. We would never have met this wonderful person or at the book. All of you are my gifts. And this movie gave me an adip. And that's Paul's worldview, that's beautiful. I'd like to sit beside it. It's hard for me to fully jump into it,

but it's nice to be around. I will say for me, I feel slightly differently in that I hated this. I hated every single second of it. You loved it. But I love that you had to watch it. I like having the power of making thousands of people watch this terrible movie.

That's what's worth it. Even though you wind a lot about the movie, you crushed at every single opportunity. Great work. Thank you New York! You are the best! Thank you, Beth! Thank you, too, our talented merch Wrangler and Security Guard. Thank you to Scott Sonny each in New York

What a fun show and if you want to attend a how did this get made live show yourself You are about to have a whole lot of chances. Here's the thing I'm supposed to announce this until Monday, but guess what? I'm giving you the exclusive scoop. How did this get made is going back on tour this fall from the 18th to the 21st of October. We're going to Portland, Maine, Providence, Rhode Island, New Haven, Connecticut, and Brooklyn, New York, and we're not stopping there. We're going to be doing two shows in Chicago on November 8th and 9th and two more shows in Minneapolis on November 10th and 11th. Every night will be a new movie.

Details on one tickets go on sale will be announced this Monday, September 25th at hdtgm.com and on our social media accounts. Can't wait for your costumes, your songs, everything. It's gonna be great. Anyway, a big thank you to the staff at the Beacon our amazing tour manager, Beth Thomas and all of you who actually spent an hour and a half of your life watching that movie.

But don't worry about that because now you can commemorate that with a brand new t-shirt. We made a shirt. I actually got it as a sweatshirt. It's a picture of a seagull that says outcast underneath. It's perfect. You can snag it at tpubbuk.com slash stores, slash hdtgm. You can also buy ever shirt we ever made from the Subitura there as well. As well as new shirts. There we go. All right. If you have a correction and a mission for this

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