How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: Beautiful Disaster
Episode Date: March 1, 2024Jason joins Paul to chat about the death of Pitchfork and the TV/movies they're currently watching. Plus, Paul dives into corrections and omissions from Beautiful Disaster, shares a peek behind the cu...rtain to how episode t-shirt designs come to be, and reveals next week's movie. PAUL & JASON'S PICKS:TV, I Say w/ Ashley RayThe Traitors UK (Series 2)True Detective: Night CountryMonsieur SpadeDead PixelsEverything I Know About LoveSuch Brave GirlsIn The KnowReviewBrain DeadStrange Way of LifeWes Anderson's Roald Dahl short filmsThe Elephant 6 Recording Co."Coconut Mirror" by Connie Lovatt"Court and Spark" by Joni Mitchell"We're Not Animals" by The Short Dark Strangers & The Shady Motherfuckers"Little Rope" by Sleater-Kinney JASON'S GUIDE TO FINDING NEW MUSIC:All Songs ConsideredPopcastSearch Engine ep: How do I find new music now that I'm old and irrelevant?Dusted MagazineThe QuietusBandcampWhat's In My Bag? UPCOMING TOUR DATES IN: Belfast, Dublin, Glasgow, & London! Go to hdtgm.com for tix and info.Pre-Order Paul’s book about his childhood, Joyful Recollections of Trauma, wherever books are soldFor extra Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerHDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter
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Tax deductions, KFC and Benoit Balls. All this and more on today's How Did This Get Made?
Last Looks. Hit the theme! watching again. Last look, look last, last look.
How did this get made?
It wasn't fun like a gay parade.
I'd rather dig my own grave than watching again.
Last look, French, I'll make a little class.
What's up, pigeons?
I'm your team poker prodigy, Paul Shear,
and welcome to How Did This Get Made? Last get made last looks where you the listener get to voice
Your issues on beautiful disaster plus later in the show Jason and I chat about all the TV movies and music that we are currently loving
I'll also share an exclusive deleted scene from our beautiful disaster show and as always I'll reveal next week's movie
But first things first a big shout out to War Widow
for that great opening theme song.
We love these songs.
And if you have a last looks theme song,
send it to howditsgetmade at earwolf.com
but keep them short, 15 to 20 seconds is best.
Now, there's a lot of things to talk about.
First of all, thank you to everyone
who has pre-ordered my book.
I so appreciate that.
If you've preordered my book, you can go to my website and sign up to get a personalized
postcard from me.
It just means the world.
Thank you so much.
This book is written with, how did this get made?
Really behind me on this one.
So I really appreciate it.
Also, we are going to be in Europe.
We've just opened up more tickets for Glosco.
We were sold out, but then they found more seats.
I don't know how that's possible, but they found more seats.
There's a handful of seats left for London and a bunch of seats left for
Belfast.
Go to HDTGM.com to get your tickets for that.
Now let's get into it.
Last week we talked at length about beautiful disaster. A movie that Discord user, Annie DeVito,
thinks should have had the tagline,
beautiful disaster, more red flags
than the running of the bulls.
Ooh, I like that, Annie.
All right, well, we had questions about beautiful disaster,
and we might have even missed a few things.
Here's your chance to set a straight fact check us,
if you will, it is now time for corrections and omissions. Thank you Rob from Long Island for that great new theme song cranking them out always. They're so good
Let's go to the discord the discord is always at discord.gg
good. Let's go to the discord. The discord is always at discord.gg slash HDTGM. I love that community. What's up GT 75?
Well, GT 75 says tuition scene did not make any sense. The
bursar says they don't accept cash tuition payments because of
the tax implications. What tax implications? She's not paying a
nanny under the table. She's paying for a school and the
college can still report cash to the IRS
Saying that their office is not set up to handle that amount of cash would have made far more sense
You're right. I didn't even think about that. This movie is dumb
I love when a movie is that dumb like you know that they just need a conflict and they are like, ah, yeah
Yeah, they don't take it. They don't take it. Oh, we can't break 100. We can't break, we can't break 20,000.
Cat Lady 818 writes, at the show,
you talked about how the movie was comedic.
It made it more watchable.
But I found an interview with Sprouse and Gardner
that suggested we could have had a very different movie.
They apparently did multiple takes of every scene,
starting out very seriously,
and then getting more and more campy every time.
So neither of them knew what kind of movie
they were gonna end up with. Really? Really? Oh, I love that. I love that they shot
multiple. Let's see the serious cut. Let us see the serious cut. Snyder cut, serious cut. Cat,
another cat. I took a screenshot of one of Travis's post-flight Instagram shots where I noticed some strange replies in the comments
Okay, got it. I'm glad some names bring this up because I saw this as well one person writes
Hello Joyce for some reason
But the most random comment is a person who asks Travis if he wants to star in a period piece short film set during the Spanish
Inquisition that's shot on super 16 millimeter and rehearsals start tomorrow
Inquisition that's shot on super 16 millimeter and rehearsals start tomorrow.
Let me tell you some production designers, prop makers.
And by the way, this screenshot is up on the discord.
You can take a look at it. It's amazing.
They are the funniest.
They're the best.
They don't expect anyone to do this, or maybe they do and they want this.
Anyway, let's go to the phones.
See what's going on.
All right.
This is from anonymous.
Hi, Paul.
I just finished listening to the beautiful disaster episode.
And I can't believe I'm gonna end with this.
I read the book and I still have it on my Kindle.
So I looked it up and to answer the question you,
Jason and June had of is Abby a virgin
in the book that is addressed and yes she is.
So hope that helps. I'm still traumatized by the book to this day, but it was a great episode. Okay,
bye. Don't be ashamed that you read this book. So many people have read this book and yes,
thank you for answering the question that we all knew in our hearts is true. Abby was a virgin.
All right, Dr. Sarah from New Haven, what do you got? Hi Paul our hearts is true. Abby was a virgin. All right.
Dr.
Sarah from New Haven.
What do you got?
Hi Paul.
This is Dr.
Sarah.
I would get the new Haven show and something you guys missed about the
beautiful death after movie was the fact that when Abby went to Travis's family
house, there was only one bucket of KFC for all those grown men.
And they got a double of corn for the sides.
Where were the mass potatoes and where were the for the sides. Where were the mashed potatoes?
And where were the biscuits, Paul?
Where were the biscuits?
Anyways, I just wanted to thank you all for coming to Connecticut.
As you can imagine, being a doctor and professor
at this time has gotten really, really hard.
And you, June and Jason, bring joy and laughter
into my life every single day.
So, blessing to all of you.
Take care.
Thank you, Dr. Sarah, first of all, for being a doctor.
And the fact that we've, I don't think ever had a doctor identify themselves as a doctor
on the show.
So, I already feel like this is already going to be a great comment.
You're right.
Where were those biscuits?
Maybe they ate the biscuits first?
I don't know.
You're right.
They should have been more, but maybe they are health conscious. That, that is truly one of my favorite things
to watch in all film, just the way that food
is displayed or not displayed.
You know, you watch anyone, but you,
there's so much food out for like four people.
Like, and they're putting it out.
It's not like they have, you know, like staff.
I am amazed.
Every countertop has food on it.
Then you watch something like Two and a Half Men.
My friend, Gilles Aire did a thing where you watch every two and a half men
They eat pizza with a fork and knife. I am I will always catch my eye no matter what I'm watching actually when it's bad
All right, and another anonymous call from Dallas a poll calling from a Dallas hotel room with food poisoning
I just wanted to point out that the casino scene in beautiful
disaster all the way up to the $5,000 buy-in seemed to be a shot-for-shot remake of the
train poker scene in the sting. A little crossover podcast appeal.
Ooh, feel better. First of all, from the food poisoning.
I appreciate you had enough energy to call in.
And yes, unspooled crossover, I love that.
I think you're actually all right.
I hadn't seen the sting in such a long time.
And then when I saw it, I was like,
wow, this movie reminds me of Beautiful Disaster.
All right, let's go back to the Discord.
Corgi Herter writes, this is a kind of continuation
of the poker scene observation.
Beautiful Disaster commits the same poker sins that so many other movies do.
A poker prodigy is shown getting increasingly rarer hands and winning.
When you get those, you can't just will a great hand to appear through skill alone.
You can see this even movies at Casino Royale where James Bond outplays his opponents by getting ridiculous hands rather than making marginal gains with intelligent well-timed bets. Well, yeah, I mean, look, what can you do? I mean,
card playing is not the most interesting thing to watch. You gotta keep it good for the dumb people,
like me. In response to us talking about the Fight Club matches happening near the performance of
Titus Andradekis, Sean McBee writes, I interpreted it as Titus Andradekis was being used as the
fake cover for a fight club. Alright. Okay. So then Sean goes
on and says it introduces a whole different set of logic
issues. But being a how to just get made movie that's to be
expected. So I guess we'll never know for sure. I think that
if they if they have like a secret thing with like the stage
crew at the stage crew,
like the stage crew is like, hey, we need money for great sets, like a Titus and Dronekis.
So why don't we just, you know, we'll make that money back by running a fight club.
I like a stage crew movie.
Ryan says 1213 writes as a librarian of 10 years, 20 years in library work,
and as an alumni of CSU Sacramento, I can attest that the library, ramen-serping was something I witnessed in that library.
If, wait, in that library, really?
In Budapest?
If ramen-serping was the only issue
in the public library I worked at,
that would have been considered a good day.
It was mostly empty bottles of Jack Daniels
and used condoms, ooh,
or literal shit on the floor in my library.
Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, Ryan says.
It really does say something that the prison library
I run is better maintained than the public library.
Ryan, you just dropped a fuck ton of bombs on me
in that one.
Ah, I'm flabbergasted, I'm flabbergasted,
but I will say this, if you're a librarian out there,
please pre-order my book, make sure my book
comes to your library, it counts as a book sales. And I will also say, I think're a librarian out there, please pre-order my book, make sure my book comes to your library, it counts as book sales.
And I will also say, I think it will help people in prison.
So, Ryan, get my book in prison.
And also, I'm so sorry, I had to clean up condoms in a library.
I guess, man, John Grisham gets people hard.
Anyway, so many great corrections and omissions this week, but there can only be one that
is the best.
And this week, the best is is and it's a tricky one
It really really is a tricky one
But I love anyone who stops and freeze frames a scene and cat you did that to find out about the 16 millimeter
Production of the Spanish Inquisition
So you are a winner and you don't get anything but you do get this amazing song from Hill Baker. Hit it!
Thank you Hill Baker for that song. Remember, if you want to submit an alt movie tagline or chime in with your own thoughts
about the latest episode, hit us up on the discord at
discord.gg slash HDTGM or call us at 619 Paul ask coming up.
Jason joins me to talk about all things that we are watching TV film music whatever
We're loving stuff. We're gonna tell you about it
Plus we'll play an exclusive deleted scene from our beautiful disaster show and our reveal next week's movie
We'll be right back
Welcome back by now. I'm sure you've noticed that every Monday
We rerelease old how to skim eight episodes back into our feed.
This week's matinee Monday was Jim Cotta with Michael show Walter.
And next week's will be Twilight Breaking Dawn Part Two with Doug Benson.
So keep on checking out these replays of classic episodes every Monday.
All right.
It's time to talk to my buddy, Jason.
Let's welcome him in with a new banger from our guy Rob from Long Island Rob. Play us in
We've got time where Jason joins Paul and they JUSDCHAT.
Welcome to Just Chat, Jason. This is the beautiful disaster last looks.
Wait, I don't know, I don't remember what that is.
Now.
That's a while ago.
Yes, that was a while ago.
To my credit, this is a little while ago
from when we recorded this. What was beautiful? What was beautiful
disaster? Now I do remember it because it was my favorite movie
from the tour. I think we did it in Connecticut, New Haven. And
it was about the young girl who is dad is a gambler who goes to
college. College. It's a college story. Yes, okay.
I remember now.
Yes, street, oh yes.
Fight club, college fight club.
Yes, yes, yes.
Now I know.
What'd it go like perfectly cryptic bland title?
Oh yeah, I mean that movie really is.
And it's actually the one that I think about the most
because it is the one that's so
Bizarre and I feel like so many people who watch the show especially women who've watched the show have been like oh my gosh I'm so glad you covered this because I was tricked into watching it
Like I feel like it was advertised
Funny like you know like I hey if you like this you'll like this and the cover looks like you would like it
Yes, yeah, it is not one of those things say if you know more movies like this suggest them cover looks like you would like it. Yes. Yeah. It is not one of those things. I will say if you know more movies like this, suggest them because this was a wild ride because now I'm
remembering it as being like, oh, I think this is going to be college romance story, but then it's
very quickly Fight Club and all this other violence. And I remember just being like,
what tone is this movie? And that's, if people know more movies like this,
let us know because I want to watch more movies like this.
I'm all in for movies like this.
Oh my gosh, they're so, so much fun.
What has been going on with you?
Have you been watching stuff, you've been listening to stuff?
Yeah, I've got a list of fun stuff,
some TV stuff to run down.
Yeah, go ahead.
I want to tell people, if you really want to get Jason
giving you everything you need to watch,
you got to listen to TV.
I say with Ashley Ray because you guys did some giant
like must watches there and that was fun.
We did. Yeah.
They just recently I've been on both Ashley Ray's fantastic podcast, TV I Say,
and our friends, Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald's The Watch.
On both shows I talk exclusively about stuff
that I've watched during the year,
and especially talking with Ashley Ray,
especially we talked about stuff that was underrated.
Like we're not talking about the bear and succession and all the shows that get all the hype.
We're talking about a lot of the smaller shows, the shows that don't get the love or the shows
that I love but just aren't being acknowledged in the same way or hyped the same way.
It's so easy for stuff to get lost in the shuffle.
So I've got a bunch of stuff on my list that kind of fit into that category.
Okay, perfect. I'll shout out a couple of things just my list that kind of fit into that category. Okay, perfect.
I'll shout out a couple of things
just to get them out of the way first,
just cause they are bigger and more popular things.
Based on when this comes out, I don't know.
I'm either loving or have just loved
this new season of True Detective.
I'm having a blast with True Detective.
I think it's really fun.
One of the shows that I'm absolutely really obsessed with
is Monsieur Spade, the Scott Frank, Tom Fontana.
Sam Spade as an older, you know,
he's living in the south of France and a mystery,
of course, starts happening around him
that he has to get involved with.
And it's both beautiful and fantastic.
Clive Owen as an older, Sam Spade, great.
I've got a couple of, I don't know what it is,
but boy, am I in on all like British,
rom-com, sitcoms, you know, funny,
just slice of life stuff.
There's a couple that I've just watched that are so good.
Dead Pixels, the John Brown show Dead Pixels, I think
is absolutely hilarious and so funny and and also like
heartbreaking at times, which I thought was great. The Dolly
Alderton show, Everything I Know About Love is absolutely
fantastic. It is like a coming of age story,
for like a group of young women in their early 20s,
like post college moving to London rather,
to make a go of it.
And it's like their lives as they unfold
in those first kind of, that first blush of adulthood.
And that's a great book too, I read that book.
It's based on Dolly Alderton's book.
The woman that wrote the book wrote the series
and it's great.
Yeah, and she's really great.
I read her because she's actually produced
by my publisher as well.
So I was looking through what they were having
and what other books they had and it was great.
I believe, and I haven't gotten it,
but I believe she has a new book
that's either now out or is coming out soon. Something like that I noticed. it was great. I believe, and I haven't gotten it, but I believe she has a new book that's either now out or is coming out soon.
Something like that I noticed.
Oh, great.
I thought that show was fantastic.
The other show that I'm watching is called
Such Brave Girls, another kind of hilarious
and then brutal, sick half hour, British half hour
that's just dynamite, really fantastic.
I love this.
I mean, but you know,
you still aren't watching the number one British show
that you should be watching, Traders.
I know, I know.
I think I'm gonna start it
because I really know the conversation,
every time we're backstage for a show,
I feel like you and everybody else are talking about it.
I now am officially like, I feel like I'm missing out.
So I definitely gotta start.
It's a perfect show for you.
I think that like what you should do,
and again, I'll probably say what I've said to you
privately here, I think you could start with season two
of the UK, and I think you could start with season two
of Australia, they're both available on Peacock,
and season two of the US.
Because they don't, they're completely organic seasons.
Like they all work the same way.
I think that they figured some stuff out.
I love the first season of the UK, but I'm also like,
and this is where I'm kind of conflicted.
And maybe you could have an opinion about this.
Like, I know that season two of the UK is better
than season one. Do I tell you watch season one? So then you can eventually watch season two. the UK is better than season one.
Do I tell you watch season one
so then you can eventually watch season two?
Or because the reality show,
like do I wanna hook you on season two
and say watch season two and you'll go back
and maybe you'll be more open to a season one?
I don't know.
Well, that's how I feel.
I'm with you.
Like whenever I recommend alone to people,
I don't tell people to start from the beginning
because I think the first two seasons
while good
are not nearly as transfixing as season three.
And so I always say like start with season three
because I think you're going to get hooked
and then get around to one and two whenever you want.
But like after three, I feel like is when the show
really becomes the show?
Yeah.
Four and five are a little wonky
because it's the team season, it's the all-star season.
But like once we start getting into season six, seven, eight,
now we're really cooking.
And I feel like I try and steer people towards seasons I know,
especially if they're not related.
Like it sounds like creators is,
each season to season unrelated, you know what I mean?
Yes, there's like one thing that they do in season two
of the American version where they bring back a character
and I'm like, I don't even know why they brought back this.
Like I don't know what the whole deal is,
but it didn't make a difference.
It's like, oh, she's another reality star.
They brought her back, whatever.
I'm in.
Like there's nothing that requires any knowledge,
but I will say my friend, Alex Kowitski,
director, really nice guy.
He's got me into like a lot of survivor stuff
and survivor of the new season started
and I'm already on board.
But Alex was the one who kind of, I recommended to him,
I was like, if you really want to watch
like I think the best season of traders
you need to watch season two of Australia.
And he was texting me over the weekend.
And he's like, oh my God, that is truly,
I mean, the only three people who've watched it,
Alex, our friend Lisa Gilroy and June and I.
So like it's only three people can explore,
you know, really express the insanity of that.
That's incredible.
I love that.
Yeah, I really, really love that.
Yeah, I gotta start it.
I gotta start it.
I'll throw out a couple of others.
Our friend Zach Woods and Brandon Gardner,
his writing partner and Mike Judge have a new
stop motion animation show called In the Know
that I think is very funny and very clever.
Kind of a satire of an NPR station
and all of the NPR kind of personas that are,
that I love so much and as like a lifelong NPR listener, it's very fun to watch them kind of make fun of
it. I've enjoyed enjoyed that. I'm rewatching Andy Dailey's
absolutely tremendous show review. Oh, it's so good. It is.
It's so good. And I had now gone long enough where I'd forgotten
a lot of the elements and episodic
storylines and it's so satisfying and so wall to wall funny.
I can't recommend it enough, especially of course as everyone knows season one episode
for pancakes divorce pancakes truly I think one of the best TV episodes of the last 20
years just incredible stuff.
And then I was just gonna say,
as we are going into the next election
and all of this crazy election cycle nonsense
is starting to get louder
and the din of all this craziness
is starting to feel once again,
so depressing and dystopian,
I am watching the Kings who made The Good Fight
and The Good Wife did a season of a show called Brain Dead
that is so fantastic.
It's Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Tony Shalhoub
and a ton of other fantastic people coming in and out.
It's this great show that I feel like is all about
the political nonsense that we find
ourselves in and how everybody appears to be calcifying into like absolutely bananas points
of view and then just caring about fighting. And that's what the show is. The show is, you know,
not to put too fine a point on it and let you know what it is. It's about bugs who come from outer space, invade people's brains and make everybody crazy.
And it's set during our political upheaval
of like the 2016 election.
The show is phenomenal.
Can't speak highly enough of it.
It's a blast.
It's so fun, so funny, so sharp,
such a great political satire
and just an absolutely fun fucking show to watch right now.
I like those two and you know,
you've met Elzbeth, right?
Yes, oh, Elzbeth Tassioni?
Absolutely, one of my absolute favorites.
You know that show is starting in a matter of weeks.
Well, I got to do the episode
where Elzbeth comes back to the good fight.
And so I got to do scenes with her
and I was so fucking psyched.
And she's a great actress and really great.
So I'm very excited to show.
She's a fantastic actress.
She's great in the holdovers.
Yes.
Fantastic in the holdovers, but boy.
Elzebeth Tassione is absolutely one of my favorite characters
just in the Good Wife lore.
She comes back like a couple of times a season and is so funny and you can tell that they love that
character and that actor so much because every central character in
the good fight in the good wife rather gets to have full episodes with Elzbeth
Tassioni. So it's like here she is with Alicia Floric.
Here she is with Josh Charles' character.
Here she is, you know, she gets to be a part of
everybody's stories because they were just like,
what's another good pairing?
You can tell.
What's another good pairing for Elzbeth to be with?
Because it's so fun to have her energy.
She's great.
She's really, really great.
And it was so funny because when we did our scenes together, she hadn hadn't done it in, she hadn't done the show in years.
Funny. Oh, that's interesting.
She was like, you know, she was like, oh, I got it.
And it was so funny because the day I shot my episode,
or that week, it was the week that the Good Fight
was announced that it wasn't coming back.
It was the week that Kristi Bransky turned 60, I believe,
or had a big, giant public birthday.
It was the night of the Met Gala, so that she was at that.
And then Elzbeth, Carrie Preston, was back on the show.
And it was like, oh, I haven't done this character in years.
I have to remember how to do this character again. And And we look at like a year later, it's a now
that she's got her own spin off. I felt like I was in like this
crosshair of a moment where it was like they brought her in,
someone was going away, the show is coming up. It was just like,
I feel like I got to see everything on the side there.
I'm excited for that show. I can't wait for it to come out.
I'll throw out a couple of other things just for fun,
just because I feel like some of them aren't new.
They're from last year, but I thought we're so great.
And again, so kind of slept on.
The Pedro Almodovar short, Strange Way of Life,
that is the Ethan Hawk, Pedro Pascal movie that he did.
It's like an 18 minute little western, fantastic.
There's been a bunch of like fantastic shorts,
like all the Wes Anderson, I feel like Asteroid City
got a lot of press and a lot of notice
because it was terrific.
But Wes Anderson also released an entire movie
of Roll Doll Shorts.
Well, they're on Netflix, then they're all together,
but you can watch them individually and they're terrific.
Oh, I gotta check this out.
Absolutely worthwhile.
Both of those I think are great.
Strange way of life especially I thought
was just absolutely fantastic.
There's a great documentary out about the Elephant 6 recording company
bands. So it's like Neutral Milk Hotel, Olivia Tremor Control, Circulatory System, Apples
and Stereo, all that group of like Athens, Georgia, Denver related bands that put out
so much great music in like, in, you know, in my post college years, essentially, like starting for me in college and
after, you know, and those bands were so incredible, a lot of
blending of members and a lot of like sharing of stage with like
a number of bands that just are, you know, it's the same eight
people they just shift around and a different one of them is
singing now. So it's a different band. I love that.
Vibes, they're all characters. Every one of them is singing now, so it's a different band. I love that. Kind of vibes, they're all characters.
Every one of them is a character.
And again, we've now entered the stage of,
for me, documentaries that are about people my own age.
So all the footage, all the footage looks like
it's from when I was in college.
They all currently look like, I feel like I look now.
It is like so, it's such a fucking weird.
It was the same thing with like Meet Me in the Bathroom,
that book about the New York music scene.
Loved it, great documentary.
But again, I'm like, wait, these are people my age, fuck.
I'm already at the age where we make documentaries
about my own past, which is very unsettling.
But I loved that documentary.
I thought it was great.
But wait, that's available on Apple
and it's available on Amazon.
Oh, great.
And you can get that, yeah.
And you can also get on this website, Kino.
I love, yeah, no, I feel that way too
when you watch like a documentary about something
that you lived through and you're like, oh, yeah.
All right, yeah, okay, sure, sure.
All right.
It's really, it's sketchy as all hell.
I'm like, I don't like this. No, I know. I
feel, I believe me. I feel it. I mean, it's, it's a very bizarre feeling. If you don't mind,
I'll give, can we take a couple of minutes? Cause you asked me a while ago about like finding
new music and getting turned on to new music and this kind of stuff. And I want to just
take a moment to shout out the death of Pitchfork.
Pitchfork, the website Pitchfork,
which has been an absolute part of my daily routine
since it began publishing a website that I read.
One of very few websites in the late 90s
that when I worked at J.P. Morgan,
I would read Pitchfork every day and Ain't It Cool News
and figure out what I knew about stuff.
Pitchfork continues to review four new albums a day.
It's gone through the ups and downs.
If you wanna hear,
I thought they just went through a big part,
like a shut down now or there's something major.
Okay, yeah.
No, no, that's what I'm saying.
This is the death of Pitchfork.
This is, the Pitchfork is now being subsumed into GQ.
For some it because they're all part
of the same parent company.
They've laid everybody off at Pitchfork
and there's just gonna be some reviews in GQ.
It's like a real loss.
And especially a loss for exactly what you were talking
about back in the day, which was,
how do I get turned on to new stuff?
How do I find new music?
And we're watching like the death of these kind of curation engines,
and we're just living inside of the algorithm, an algorithmic kind of curation,
which is, you know, not the best.
If you want to read very or hear very smart people talk about the you know the
death of Pitchfork or the recent cuts in Bandcamp staff, Bob Lefsets and Ezra Klein have both put
out kind of very beautiful kind of articles or think pieces about the death of Pitchfork,
but it's a real bummer. It's a real bummer because I find that it is, it's harder and harder to find new stuff
because all the entertainment we talk about,
there's just too much of it.
And so here's a couple of places that I go
that I feel like people can go to find stuff.
So there's a bunch of podcasts
that I feel like are good music podcasts.
The NPR show, All Songs Considered,
I think does a weekly episode
that is new albums that have come out this week. They're pretty varied and
the hosts are pretty good about highlighting all sorts of music. So you
get a good swath of stuff. I especially love when Lars Gottrich is on, who is absolutely,
I find he has a similar taste as I do.
His episodes are called Vikings Choice.
Lots of heavy metal, experimental, international.
It's great, great stuff.
New York Times' Popcast can sometimes be infuriating
conversations but always super interesting, very cool,
very smart people talking about music.
There's an episode of the podcast Search Engine
that is all about how do you find new music?
And it's with the journalist Califasena, who's fantastic.
There's a website called Dusted.
I think it might be Dusted Magazine, or maybe it's just called Dusted. I think it might be Dusted Magazine
or maybe it's just called Dusted.
They do new music reviews that are terrific.
There's a British website called Quietus.
They put out and review great music and great stuff.
These are just places that I go and find stuff.
No, but this is good.
Bandcamp regularly does features
that are best jazz on bandcamp or best,
you know, essential releases of the week.
If you're, again, if you're just looking for a way
to be turned on to new stuff,
these are good places to start, you know,
if you are losing something like a pitchfork
or something like that in your life.
Anyway, there's a bunch of ways to come at this.
And I think that sometimes you get,
like not only do you get lost,
like I find myself going back,
you know, I'm on Spotify, I'm on Apple Music,
I have all my subscriptions running,
but it's like, while I have everything at my hands,
I don't ever just let it, like, I mean,
the algorithm can sometimes pick it for me
and sometimes it'll be good,
but I'm also like, I don't trust even the algorithm.
I just kind of go back to what I know.
Yeah, and it's like TV is in the sense that like,
you have to decide what you want to listen to, seek it out I know. Yeah. And it's like TV is in the sense that like you have to decide what
you want to listen to seek it out and listen to it. And I like discovery. I like the sense of
surprise and discovery that used to come along with listening to the radio or you know or being
turned on to new stuff by people whose taste I like similar to the the ways in which I'm talking
about it here. I was another shout out I'll give is to,
I did an episode of the YouTube series
that Amoeba Record Store runs called What's in My Bag.
I did one years ago, but I still listen to that,
or I still watch, they put out a new one every week.
And every band or comedian or actor that goes on there
and picks stuff that they like
to turn people on to music they like,
I've found so much stuff just in those recommendations.
I think it's fantastic.
So, you know, and I'm just,
here's a couple of artists that I wanna shout out.
Connie Loveit, beautiful singer-songwriter,
New York based has an incredible album called Coconut Mirror.
Joni Mitchell's, Cortons Park turns 50 this year.
There have been a bunch of great like think pieces,
big articles about that record.
And Cortonspark, even though Higiri
is like my all-time favorite Joni record,
Cortonspark is what is how I got turned on to Joni.
The song helped me, played on the radio.
I heard it and was obsessed with it
and bought the cassette the next opportunity I could.
So like that's a great one. So I heard it and was obsessed with it and bought the cassette the next opportunity I could.
So like that's a great one.
And then I've been a singularly obsessed with one song for about seven months in which
I almost exclusively listened to this one song.
The album is from two, this is where it gets a little confusing.
It's two, I believe Pittsburgh bands that shared a lead singer.
And so the album is both of their records combined into one thing.
And the bands are The Short Dark Strangers and The Shady Motherfuckers.
And the song is We're Not Animals.
And I cannot stop listening to this song.
I don't know what it is.
It has a hold on me in a way that I find like I have listened to it hundreds of times.
Like if it was available on Spotify, which it's not, it would unquestionably have been
my Spotify wrapped number one song of the year.
Wow.
Just for number of plays.
And the fact that it is not, that I don't,
I can't get it on Spotify makes me nuts.
Anyway, here is a snippet of the song.
["You Will Be The Same"] It's great. So the betters come off if they were down or alive
That went for tomorrow It's great. I love this song.
Speaking of songs, I want to say two things.
I just recently watched the Slater Kenny What's in My Bag,
which is really great.
They have a new album out, which I love.
And I would say that the other thing about songs
is we are still accepting submissions.
We kind of put away our American Idol contest.
We're kind of come back to it, just been the holidays
and stuff, we'll come back to it and we'll get into it.
So you can still send us songs and we'll still pick a winner.
We're having fun with it.
This is a long reality show that we're running here.
So don't get too bent out of shape.
And I will tell you that I had to explain
what a bastard was the other day
because when my son got in the car,
ODB was playing.
And I love ODB.
I have a sideshow statue of ODB coming out.
Really?
It's the best.
I'm so fucking excited about this.
Oh, that's great.
It's like ODB coming out of the Brooklyn subway.
And as he's like coming out,
like he's like ripping apart the subway. It's just like, it out of the Brooklyn subway. And as he's like coming out, like he's like ripping apart the subway.
It's just like, it's such a cool statue.
It's just like, I have three fucked up side shows statues.
One is of ODB.
The other is Jake Gyllenhaal's,
in Spider-Man where they have the Jake Gyllenhaal Spider-Man.
Tom Hall.
When Mysterio like creates a crazy fucked up image
of Tony Stark rising from the dead, but all fucked up.
Yeah, oh wow.
So I have that one and now I also really found
that's what I wanted so bad.
And maybe it doesn't, I was so excited about it
when I saw it, but it's the Doctor Strange
from the Sam Raimi, the Multiverse of Madness
where he goes insane and it's like-
Yes, yes.
The Dark Strange.
Yeah.
That's my favorite.
Ooh, that's great.
Statues, I love each one of them
because they're just like, I don't know,
they're very different.
Ooh, I love that.
That's rad.
All right, oh yeah, go ahead.
I just wanted to shout out all that music
and talk about music and ask,
I feel like I've had some success asking our audience
to help me find things or to help solve a problem
or something.
I'm looking for all of night music.
The Hal Wilner, Lauren Michaels music show
that aired Sunday nights at 11.30.
It was like SNL, but it was Hal Wilner was the Center Ant Live music director,
and he did, they did a show for a number of years
on Sunday nights that was just music.
So it was in the beginning, I think Jules Holland
hosted it, David Sanborn hosted it.
The house band was incredible, Omar Hakim on drums,
phenomenal, and they would have, the guests would be like,
in one episode, it would be Sonic Youth,
and then also the Sun Ra Orchestra,
and then also like a blues guitarist.
You know, they would have, they would cast it so,
like the episodes were fantastic.
And I've found a number of individual performances
on YouTube, but I'm looking for the whole thing. I want to be able
to watch all of night music. Can anybody help me? I think they
will be able to because when I last talked on the show I do with
Hubel that our live stream, I asked if someone could get me
all of Kid Nation season one and I got it. Nice. Yeah. Ooh, I
love that. All right. Well, Jason's been a blast talking to you. We will talk again
We'll we'll see you next time
Such a pleasure chat with him and finally it's time to announce our next movie next week
We will be going from a frisbee shot in the balls to erotic masquerade balls and more
That's right next episode we are returning to the world of Christian gray and Anastasia steel for part two part two of the 50 Shades of Grey trilogy. That's right.
2017's 50 Shades Darker.
Oh, you want to break down to the plot?
I'll give it to you as Christian and Anna begin to rekindle their relationship shadowy figures from Christian's past start to reappear
Determined to destroy their hopes for a future together and you know what honestly that sounds more exciting than anything that fucking happens in that movie
Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 11% score on the Tomato Meter, and my wonderful unspooled
co-host Amy Nicholson wrote for MTV,
The movies aren't so bad they're good.
They're brilliantly bad.
They're genius.
With director James Foley dutifully presenting every inane plot point while gifting us excuses
to laugh.
Listen to the trailer here for Fifty Shades Darker.
He's changing.
Are you happy? Listen to the trailer here for Fifty Shades Darker. He's changing.
Are you happy?
I've never been happier.
Gotta be quicker than that, Craig.
You know that girl, Christian?
I think you're the first woman to try to save him.
If something were to happen to you,
I could never forgive myself.
Rated R. and also use your local public library people. We love that. We are almost at the end of the episode,
but before we go, check out this bonus scene
from our beautiful disaster show
where you get a little peek behind the curtain
on how we design the t-shirts for the episode.
And we did this with the audience, and this is a fun one.
Anyway, if you want to buy this t-shirt
for beautiful disaster, you can get it at tpublic.com
slash hdtgm.
Take a listen.
I loved the scene where he...
She's Instagram stalking him in class and he's right behind
her and he's like, hey, I see you Instagram stalking me.
She's like, I'm not, then he's like, okay, cool, whatever, I'll pick you up at eight
and then leaves because he's not in the class.
He should have been in the class with her.
Anyone can audit.
All right. Any other T-shirt ideas ideas any other t-shirt ideas while we
Can we get house lights for a second just so we can see some of these and pick so raise your hand if you think
You've got a good one and make sure it's not dog shit. Oh
When did I eat noodles with a picture of someone with noodles on their face fresh from the barf. Okay, great. What do you got?
That's kind of good.
Sacramento Frisbee Club is great. How about just a picture of jeans and
meow coming out of where the fly is?
What if it's...
Oh, no, you would not wear that.
What if it's a picture? What if it's abs and then like a waistband of underwear and meow coming out of it?
Right? So you can wear a shirt with abs.
Oh, it's tricky. Yeah.
Up there up in the center balcony. Yes, you feel like you got one.
Beautiful upper deck.
Beautiful upper deck. I don't know that that makes much sense right here.
Pigeon says what? Beautiful upper decker. I don't know that that makes much sense right here.
Pigeon says what?
Pigeon says what?
Okay, I like pigeon.
I don't love says what.
Go ahead.
You put ice on it.
You put ice on it.
So far, Sacramento Fisbee Club feels...
We're getting somewhere.
I feel like we've said some other things even today.
Yeah.
Well, then don't say it.
I have an update. If it's not a t-shirt during the t-shirt section,
don't raise your fucking hands.
Get out of here.
Get him out of here.
Security escort this man out of here.
You don't understand the rules, sir.
What's up, Pidge? What's up, Pidge?
What's up, Pidge?
That's not bad.
Good, but I feel like we're...
Oh, yes, yes, you would be politely raising your hand.
He wants the diary.
That's scored him out, too.
Actually, you scored him out, both of you.
What do you got?
Make your own diary and cheese shirt, you fucking monster.
Put it on a pizza.
What do you got?
I want to be around you.
What is it?
I want to be around you.
That's too weird.
Dude, is that a t-shirt suggestion or an actual personal design?
How about Paul's my cousin?
Yes.
Child poker league.
Is there something too lucky 13?
Is there something to all the Travis Mad Dog,
his brothers?
We're having a hard time with this shirt.
Remember when they were at family dinner?
By the way, Sacramento Frisbee Club feels solid to me.
Yes, it does.
Or there is also Tucker Dormitory.
Like there could be something.
Tucker Dormitory is great.
Tucker Dormitory.
But there's got to be something more.
Is it just a visual of the building?
I don't think so.
Just a simple building since Tucker Dormitory, Bulgaria.
OK. Now I like it. Would you buy it? Would you buy it?
Tucker Dormitory, Bulgaria.
Will you commit to buying it right now?
No. I like it. I like it.
That's simple and nice. Tucker Dormitory. And we can have a girl out front playing
Frisbee. I love it.
All right. That is it for the show. Please remember to rate and review us. It helps. And if you listen
on Apple podcasts, make sure you are following us, visit us on social media at HD TGM and
a big thank you to our producer, Scott Sonny Mollie Reynolds, our movie picking producer,
Aval Halley and our associate producer, Jesses Narrows and our engineers, Casey Holford and Garcia. We'll see you next week for 50 Shades Darker.